THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 127 — Obama, The Musical? Romance Novels? Instagram Moms?

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Don't miss it. 00:01:39 Speaker 6: Most of one another day once another co country, but make sure you see forty four. 00:01:44 Speaker 5: I just felt like I was in a home on the world for two hours. 00:01:47 Speaker 7: Grace. 00:01:52 Speaker 3: It really made me nostalgic for a time when I don't know how politics meant something beautiful and I really miss you. 00:01:59 Speaker 2: O the show and recapture that spirit. Obama. 00:02:19 Speaker 3: Well, on that note, it's thought crime Thursday. Gosh, it's just so catchy when I hear the Obama musical music. Who set this up? Who else is on the show? 00:02:31 Speaker 2: Here? 00:02:31 Speaker 3: Today's hold house Jack. 00:02:33 Speaker 8: We've got five people out. We can put on an Obama musical ourselves. 00:02:37 Speaker 5: Let's have cliff Is just front and center. Look at him. Actually we have are y a jacket? 00:02:43 Speaker 9: Is this is actually Lynn Manuel Miranda? 00:02:46 Speaker 10: No, it's not a jacket. This is a citizens line. Just for the record, I did not wear a jacket, a formal jacket. 00:02:50 Speaker 3: Is that a pullover? 00:02:51 Speaker 2: Citizens line. 00:02:52 Speaker 7: It's not a jacket that doesn't open all the way. It's just like a quarters of It. 00:02:59 Speaker 4: Looks very cheap, super quarters at pump, very chilling, very thin. It does not look like it's protecting him at all. 00:03:05 Speaker 5: We did not wait jacket donor money. 00:03:07 Speaker 10: We need to get some advice from Turning Point where you get your merch. 00:03:12 Speaker 9: It's all the marriage is American. 00:03:15 Speaker 5: China, China. 00:03:16 Speaker 3: Tyler only does his jopping in China. 00:03:18 Speaker 8: But we should explain that. So that intro was forty four of the musical. It's actually existed for a little while, but it's on It's being performed in DC for another ten days, I believe. So if you live in that area, you could go see it. And it's sort of strange to say this. I wish I was in DC. I would totally go see this. You would not see it. You wouldn't see the Obama Musical. 00:03:42 Speaker 5: I would have PTSD from it. But that's that's what the thing about it is. 00:03:46 Speaker 7: It's gotta be ridiculous. 00:03:48 Speaker 11: Yeah, they call it bipartisan fun. Yeah, No, there's nothing bipartisan fun. 00:03:54 Speaker 3: It is. 00:03:54 Speaker 8: Apparently the theme is apparently the Obama administration as remembered by Joe Biden leans in, so it leans in on Biden having foggy memory, and so he. 00:04:06 Speaker 11: Oh, that has actually kind of fun. But then you heard those like testimonials like we forgot how good we had it, and oh we missed the spirit of forty four and I'm back. 00:04:16 Speaker 2: In the good old days. 00:04:17 Speaker 3: I'm like good old day. 00:04:18 Speaker 11: Guy who literally woke ified the country single hantedly. 00:04:23 Speaker 5: I don't know, Jack, you know what I actually see it. 00:04:26 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not going to see it, but I am. I am going to point out that once again the left shows that they champion their heroes. The left goes and makes musicals, they go and make you know, I mean this is obviously cringe, but you know they're willing to go and actually put on musicals, put on shows. They just did one about Luigi, which I believe started in San Francisco. It's coming to Broadway. So they go in and they use media in a cultural way that actually promotes their values to future generation. And so this is something that the right we just don't do. We don't use the power of story, we don't use the power of culture. With the exception obviously of the Turning Point halftime Show, the All American Halftime Show. It's like the one time the right actually tried to do this. 00:05:16 Speaker 11: Well, but see we have a disagreement on this, Jack and I think Russ has my back. Here you got, you got Neo kon thrillers up the ying Yang you got is it? 00:05:25 Speaker 2: Jack? 00:05:25 Speaker 5: Ryan, You've got? I mean you could make an argument are actually liberals Tom Tom Cruise. 00:05:33 Speaker 7: You know impossible? 00:05:35 Speaker 5: Maybe mission impossible. 00:05:36 Speaker 11: I'm thinking more like Top Gun that felt very patriotic, that felt cultural. 00:05:42 Speaker 3: Two is definitely neocon. 00:05:44 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all neocon, though it's all like America. You know, I don't know that. 00:05:52 Speaker 8: They're they're doing a strike an air strike on somewhere. 00:05:55 Speaker 7: That's so vague. We do airstrikes a lot of places. 00:05:58 Speaker 5: It was rush over. 00:05:59 Speaker 3: It's definitely a wrong in in in Top Gun two. It's one hundred run. 00:06:03 Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, Okay, I'm misremembered. I don't know. 00:06:07 Speaker 3: They don't know Blake is right. They don't say it, but like if you just watch the film and you kind of like put the pieces together, like they're clearly talking about. 00:06:14 Speaker 11: We have some b roll of this uh from this Obama musical number three, you just throw up some of the stills. Here we go, Oh gosh, there's Hillary Rodham. Basically, you know Jack to your point, though, you often make the observation that the left is basically run by a bunch of former theater kids, So this feels very apt. 00:06:37 Speaker 3: Well, in this case, it's not former. 00:06:40 Speaker 11: Yeah, look at that. That was that the monkey pox guys. 00:06:43 Speaker 9: Funny, you should bring up theater actually every time. 00:06:47 Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't even know what to think of this. 00:06:49 Speaker 4: It's just I just discoss I just discovered that Cliff Maloney is actually a full time theater professional. 00:06:56 Speaker 3: Oh are we doing this? 00:06:57 Speaker 2: Really? 00:06:57 Speaker 3: Are we? Are we out in? 00:06:58 Speaker 7: Hold on? Hold on? 00:06:59 Speaker 2: This is to every show. I have a degree in theater arts. 00:07:02 Speaker 5: Do you do? 00:07:03 Speaker 8: Do you do theater like amateur theater on the side or pro theater on the side. 00:07:06 Speaker 2: I haven't done a show since twenty twenty one. 00:07:09 Speaker 9: Listen, there's a lot of involved with Libertarian. 00:07:12 Speaker 2: I was teen angel in Greece twenty one. 00:07:16 Speaker 10: Alight played Gastan and beating the Beast Glenn Goulia and the wedding singer. 00:07:22 Speaker 3: He is the rude Do. 00:07:25 Speaker 5: You still have the guest on song memorize Julia, Gulia, thank you. 00:07:28 Speaker 2: I knew somebody would get it exactly, Julia. 00:07:31 Speaker 5: You and James o'keith holding it down for the theater. Kids on the right, hold on? 00:07:34 Speaker 7: What give give us? 00:07:35 Speaker 8: Like a guest one something? 00:07:39 Speaker 5: Who else? Who else in conservative circles does theater? 00:07:44 Speaker 10: Mm? 00:07:46 Speaker 2: I don't know, Rob James and Rob Schneider. 00:07:54 Speaker 5: I mean we have what's role? 00:07:55 Speaker 7: What's your dream role? 00:07:58 Speaker 10: I played Billy Flynn in Chicago and that was like, it was just a really cool role. It's like the leading male, but the male is not the lead. It's the two women obviously, but well. 00:08:08 Speaker 3: He's the lawyer, right yeah, yeah. 00:08:10 Speaker 10: But it was just, you know, every song, it's like kind yeah, you're kind of doing your own thing. 00:08:15 Speaker 5: Are you doing? You do musicals? 00:08:17 Speaker 10: Yeah, there's some good low quality videos online you can find. 00:08:21 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, guys, get those unted down. 00:08:24 Speaker 7: Would you what role would you want? 00:08:25 Speaker 3: I'll throw something out to get your back here, to hold your back here. Well, and obviously Rick Renell was running the Kennedy Center for the lowest for you know, the first year, but but also someone who's a huge fan of Broadway. That on on the right is not someone who's in Broadway with someone who is a huge fan. Uh. Probably his favorite music genre is President Donald J. Trump mm hmm. And a lot of people, a lot of people don't know this, but if you spend time around him, he's listening to Fano track on repeat. We were we were hearing that so much at one point that I actually had to sit Tay down and show her the movie because she wasn't familiar with it. And uh, you know, I think it I think it closed on on Broadway after funny enough. Actually something that is going to come up in a later topic because they did a sort of woke dei casting of Christine even though it's supposed to be a you know, set in what eighteenth century France or something, and you know, at this at this opera house. And President Trump loves Broadway. He's just a huge Broadway fan. He obviously was going to the Kennedy Center a ton when when it was still in full operation. Lest I heard there it looks like July fourth is going to be the final uh you know, like final hurrah as after they close it down for you know, projected two years of maintenance. But but it's something that President Trump really actually just enjoys. He's a New Yorker. He's always loved Broadway. He was at the the Broadway opening of Phantom with Andrew Lloyd Webber. It's something that he talked about, has talked about a number of times, and it's just something that's funny that, like, I think a lot of people don't know about the president. 00:10:01 Speaker 7: Okay, quick on the spot. 00:10:03 Speaker 8: Favorite musical, Mmm, come Back to Me Hadestown Haites Town. 00:10:10 Speaker 7: I never heard of that one, Tyler. 00:10:11 Speaker 3: Is that actually good? I keep seeing stuff like stuff for that? 00:10:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's one problem in it. 00:10:16 Speaker 10: Uh, there's an archetype that is pretty much Trump and they sing a whole song about knocking down the wall. 00:10:22 Speaker 2: But aside from that and you look past it, the music is fantastic. 00:10:25 Speaker 7: Okay, all right, Tyler. 00:10:27 Speaker 9: I don't know. 00:10:28 Speaker 7: I have a special place in my heart. 00:10:30 Speaker 9: For Le Miz. 00:10:30 Speaker 5: I was gonna say. 00:10:31 Speaker 4: I actually was also like one I hate I really hate everything French, but for some reason, it doesn't feel French. 00:10:40 Speaker 8: It's one of the most French things ever created. 00:10:42 Speaker 7: It literally was. 00:10:44 Speaker 3: It's like I was written in French. 00:10:47 Speaker 4: I understand all of that. I'm just saying when I watch it in English. It doesn't make me feel it makes me feel like the liberty elements. 00:10:59 Speaker 9: Of Laz I appreciate. 00:11:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, and also and also the analogies with with Christ. 00:11:05 Speaker 9: And everything else. I think it's love. 00:11:07 Speaker 8: It's a truly Christian musical. Jack, what's your favorite? 00:11:10 Speaker 3: It's no. I was gon, I love I love Lame Miz. You know, most of my life I would have said Phantom. You know, I might. I might give a slight edge to lay Is now, but you know, traditionally I would say, Phantom. 00:11:24 Speaker 2: Let me stir the pot a little bit. I think the funniest show is Book of Mormon. 00:11:27 Speaker 8: Book of Mormon is very fun. They messed it up in twenty twenty. They change the Book of Mormon because of George Floyd in the woke moment, so they edited the jokes. Like if you see the show, there's a joke where like, oh did you get my text? And they're literally writing it on a typewriter, like haha, that's what a text would be for them, because they're in aganda and they're poor. 00:11:49 Speaker 7: And they changed it too. 00:11:50 Speaker 8: They just actually have smartphones and they send it and the joke is like, oh, you dumb American think we don't have smartphones in Uganda. Yeah, it's very stupid. They did a few changes like that it. Yeah, yeah, they messed it up badly. 00:12:03 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:12:03 Speaker 3: I thought it was really funny. I think we've talked about it on here before, and but just clip just you know, Blake has pretty much every word of Book of Mormon memorized for batim off the top of the head. Tyler, I always have to say, I've always appreciated the way that the LDS Church responded to Book of Mormon was to like use it as a promotional vehicle and be like be like, hey, you like the musical, you'll love the book, and they would just. 00:12:26 Speaker 4: They also screwed that up to though it was at first they embraced it the right way, which is that way, which is the same way that Charlie embraced. 00:12:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's what I remember. 00:12:34 Speaker 9: Uh. 00:12:34 Speaker 4: And then since then, though, now it's become like they don't embrace it. Now they now they're rejected. Okay, I embraced. This doesn't count, but I embrace it. I actually think it's great. I think it's fine. I don't think it's that offensive, and I actually really like the the producers of the content and anyways, I just. 00:12:53 Speaker 11: Do you think that that opinion is widely held within the Mormon community. Are you the are you the exception at the rule? 00:13:00 Speaker 9: I don't think. 00:13:01 Speaker 4: I actually don't think many most Barmans are bothered by it at all. 00:13:04 Speaker 5: I don't think they like even my favorite. 00:13:06 Speaker 11: I just remember it sound a musical though, but it was The Count of Monte Cristo. 00:13:11 Speaker 9: Count of Christ is good. 00:13:12 Speaker 7: Yeah, play version of. 00:13:15 Speaker 5: It, yes, Okay, they've done it, but as the play. But I fell in love with the one with Jim Cavieza. 00:13:20 Speaker 4: For kids, I'm a big fan. I've seen a few times with my kids. 00:13:24 Speaker 7: Matilda Matilda. 00:13:26 Speaker 3: Oh is that good? My kids are actually super into Matilda right now. 00:13:30 Speaker 9: It's great. 00:13:31 Speaker 4: The broad the Broadway version of Matilda is like, I think, one of the best things you can take your kids do. 00:13:36 Speaker 3: I love that book. I must have read that book like a hundred times when I was good. 00:13:39 Speaker 4: And they did a read a new version of it on Netflix a few years ago that was based around the musical like the actual Broadway. 00:13:48 Speaker 5: Sort of related. 00:13:49 Speaker 11: I saw the comments that they're still waiting for my review of Animal Farm. 00:13:52 Speaker 5: I have not seen it. Did you do this last week. 00:13:54 Speaker 7: Yeah, I did. 00:13:54 Speaker 8: It was really terrible. It was catastrophically bad. Unfortunately, I don't blame obviously, I don't blame Angel Studios of that. I blame Gallam for that. 00:14:03 Speaker 5: Well, Angel Studios just did the distribution. They didn't exactly exactly, but the Guild had to approve it, so guilt Hey, even the Angel Guild will get it wrong. From time. 00:14:15 Speaker 7: It was, it was devastating. 00:14:17 Speaker 3: I think someone was saying that, like they approved it because they wanted to do an animal farm movie and they're like, oh yeah, animal farm would be great, but then they didn't realize that it was like the liberal animal farm thing. 00:14:28 Speaker 9: I blame Seth Rogen. 00:14:30 Speaker 5: So we talked about Helen and can we talk about that? 00:14:33 Speaker 8: I mean, I know it's probably on top, we probably could. 00:14:36 Speaker 7: I mean, it's it involves. 00:14:37 Speaker 3: I mean, what what else? What else can we add that hasn't already been said? 00:14:42 Speaker 5: Pictures worth a thousand words. 00:14:44 Speaker 11: I saw this AI with the wait, what's the the the trans actor? Ellen Page, Ellen Page, Ellen Page. 00:14:54 Speaker 5: You know that. 00:14:54 Speaker 11: Famous scene where Brad Pitt is like running out dodges the spear and then he dodges it and then he like stabbed yeah, yeah, yeah, Well they did some AI version with Elm Page and it's just like starts. 00:15:07 Speaker 5: Running kind of like Weekly is running down. 00:15:09 Speaker 7: And then just kidding. 00:15:14 Speaker 5: Actually, I think I could pray that. The funny thing. 00:15:16 Speaker 8: The funny thing is it's not even though the rumor is that Ellen Elliott Page is going to be Achilles, that's not confirmed. That's just a rumor, unlike Helen of Troy being black is unfortunately confirmed. But there actually is a trans character in the Odyssey. 00:15:31 Speaker 7: Did you know that? 00:15:32 Speaker 8: No, So, the sage Tyresius is a fortune teller and Apollo gets mad at him and punishes him by turning him into a woman, and so it would make sense to actually show that character as androgynous in some way. There's a notably Odysseus runs into Tyresius, I believe in the underworld and asks him a rather like PG. 00:15:55 Speaker 7: Thirteen question. 00:15:56 Speaker 8: He basically asks, never mind, I can't say it. Look it up, go read the see folks. 00:16:01 Speaker 11: I found it there it is, Rust says he's pulling it. But it's worth it's worth sharing. It's but do you guys subscribe to the idea yet? Wait, while we're on the top of Nolan's doing this for an Oscar. 00:16:17 Speaker 7: I don't think so. 00:16:20 Speaker 3: I think he is. I think he is. But also just in general, I think that Christopher Nolan is vastly overrated. I just thought that for a long time. 00:16:30 Speaker 5: I mean, since what what did you do that was good? 00:16:32 Speaker 9: He did? 00:16:32 Speaker 5: Batman? 00:16:33 Speaker 8: He did The Dark Knight was Dark Knight, which came Outsman No, Batman Begins was good. 00:16:38 Speaker 9: Batman Begins The Dark Knight was perfectly good. 00:16:41 Speaker 5: Dark Knight, The Dark Knight ri I. 00:16:44 Speaker 3: I was so upset by The Dark Knight that I actually uploaded the entire movie into Final Cut Pro and made my own edit of it. I called mind the Darker Night. 00:16:54 Speaker 4: Sounds O, sounds like you want to recapt all right, here we go, interstet, interstell. 00:16:59 Speaker 5: We're gonna do. We're gonna do the video. 00:17:04 Speaker 9: No Interstellar is great. 00:17:05 Speaker 5: Okay, play the video? Oh did not have sound? 00:17:12 Speaker 2: Okay? 00:17:13 Speaker 11: Well this is this is all a yes, But like I mean, I think they're borrowing heavily from the from the actual film. 00:17:20 Speaker 8: Here it's somewhat mangled asn't ai and yeah you can see they. 00:17:30 Speaker 5: That's all that's Michael. 00:17:32 Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, because the original version has like a great music playing. 00:17:34 Speaker 11: But anyway, there it is. Oh, and then we have we Okay, apparently we do we have it? 00:17:42 Speaker 5: Do we have? Do we have that? One clip? Russ of Chicago Musical. 00:17:48 Speaker 4: Wait, let's hang on one second while we're on this. Memento is good. Jack is good. 00:17:55 Speaker 9: The prestige inceptions good. Inception is a great movie. 00:18:00 Speaker 3: Inception is only good on the first watch. It doesn't actually hold up after the first watch. 00:18:04 Speaker 4: Every once every ten years a recent I'm only going to see. 00:18:09 Speaker 8: Most movies are only going to see once anyway, So. 00:18:12 Speaker 4: You forget, you forget. I forgot everything in it. And then I watched it again, just like not that long. 00:18:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're someone who has a memory, then it doesn't it doesn't work. 00:18:20 Speaker 5: We gotta, we gotta. It was the first movie I watched. 00:18:24 Speaker 7: Regular He's here every week. 00:18:25 Speaker 5: I hated. 00:18:27 Speaker 9: I hated Dunkirk. I didn't like Dunkirk. 00:18:29 Speaker 3: Dunkirk was perfectly Kirk. What are you talking about? 00:18:31 Speaker 4: Okay, so Jack, you've now you've now you've now argued against yourself. You now have argued against yourself. You think that most of Christophile and stuff is good. 00:18:41 Speaker 3: I said he's overrated. 00:18:43 Speaker 8: I think he's which one was which movie was overrated? 00:18:47 Speaker 3: The Interstellar and the Stellar in the Dark Knight like everything that, like literally all of America loves both those movies. Well, sometimes people are wrong, but. 00:18:58 Speaker 8: Usually the people wal Mart sells a lot of So Dylan Ivy says, I don't know about going to the musical, but I still think y'all should still send Blake to the met Galon next year as an action news reporter. 00:19:10 Speaker 5: It would be a lot of who are you wearing? Who am I wearing? 00:19:14 Speaker 7: I mean, I guess I might have to wear. 00:19:17 Speaker 5: Gosh, no, that's the question you answer, you asked. 00:19:22 Speaker 2: He's not looking for an answer, saying that's what you're gonna say to ask. 00:19:25 Speaker 5: Like who are you wearing? 00:19:26 Speaker 7: Oh that's what you does not even mean? 00:19:28 Speaker 2: What brand are you wearing? 00:19:31 Speaker 5: Designer? Oh gosh, I'm like a pop culture. 00:19:37 Speaker 8: Away at accidentally wearing a jacket on this show. 00:19:42 Speaker 4: Blake with like with like a top line like twenty thousand dollars like tucks with no shirt underneath would be really hilarious. 00:19:51 Speaker 5: Dude, if you're doing on hundred, be looking good. 00:19:54 Speaker 7: And like eye glitter. 00:19:59 Speaker 11: In honor of America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday. Our friends at Alliance Defending Freedom are inviting you to commit to five days of prayer for America. 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You have to take a break and then I can do a hundred. 00:21:08 Speaker 3: But Jack, yeah, I usually do it with a break. I can do it with a break. I can do all on it, you. 00:21:14 Speaker 5: Know I could do with a break. 00:21:15 Speaker 11: I'm talking one set all the way through, and yeah, let's do it. Blake Blake already got started. 00:21:21 Speaker 7: Yeah I did. 00:21:22 Speaker 8: He's got an app for there's an app you can get an there's a hundred pushupp takes about six weeks, they say. 00:21:26 Speaker 5: So Bake Blake is starting at week four. He's just cool. 00:21:29 Speaker 3: So how do you how do you work your way up to it? 00:21:31 Speaker 8: So I'll just wive it out here. So it's called uh, let's get it here. It's called pushy and you'll you'll do it. I'll have you start. It starts off doing like only a handful of sets to day. But what you'll do is you'll do like five or six sets in pretty quick successions. 00:21:45 Speaker 7: So I started on week four. 00:21:46 Speaker 8: Day one, and it went twenty two, twenty six, twenty one, eighteen, nineteen thirty one. And you're supposed to wait no more than five minutes between sets when you do them. 00:21:59 Speaker 5: Okay, I got up to eighty and I gave that so I don't know. 00:22:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's with the random numbers? I don't I don't get the random numbers. 00:22:07 Speaker 5: I don't know. 00:22:07 Speaker 7: It's probably science came up with it. 00:22:09 Speaker 11: It's science, Jack, yeah, science, okay, without further ado, without further ado, we do have cliffs Broadway performance. Ooh, it's off Broadway probably right off no, no, off off off Broadway. 00:22:26 Speaker 7: Did you invent it just for him? 00:22:27 Speaker 5: All right? Sloaders twenty four? Play it? 00:22:31 Speaker 11: Mister Billy Flynn sings a press conference. 00:22:33 Speaker 2: Rag. 00:22:34 Speaker 11: Notice howis bell never moves almost from Mississippi? 00:22:44 Speaker 5: The youngy wealthy? Are they now six feet under? 00:22:49 Speaker 2: But she was granted one more start the convent. 00:22:51 Speaker 5: Out the sacred heart? 00:22:53 Speaker 7: Did she get here from. 00:22:55 Speaker 5: Nineteen twenty over? 00:22:57 Speaker 3: You don't remember? I'm amos and. 00:23:03 Speaker 7: He stole my heart? Awakened to the ending? 00:23:06 Speaker 2: The ending is the only good part you gotta play. They find we'll get it. 00:23:11 Speaker 7: I think next week that's great. We should get that suit for you. You should wear that. 00:23:15 Speaker 2: I have that burgundy suit. It is like the box suit. At the end. I'm standing up. 00:23:18 Speaker 9: We can see it. 00:23:19 Speaker 2: It is like a pure box. 00:23:21 Speaker 8: I might contemplate making an exception to the no jacket rule if you wear that suit on the set and it's not it's not wearing a suit, it's not wearing a jacket, it's wearing a costume. 00:23:29 Speaker 5: If you're actually good. 00:23:31 Speaker 10: I'm an actor who sings, not a singer who acts, so I you know, I would push through it. 00:23:36 Speaker 2: The endings good. Have you watched the ending? Then I could say. 00:23:38 Speaker 5: Yeah, votes you could drive out in the zero showing. 00:23:43 Speaker 2: The Republican. 00:23:47 Speaker 7: I want to get back a little bit. I bet, I bet, I bet. 00:23:50 Speaker 9: New Hampshire there's a few. 00:23:51 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:23:52 Speaker 5: New Hampshire's prime ground for this. 00:23:54 Speaker 12: The. 00:23:56 Speaker 7: Widest parts. 00:23:59 Speaker 8: That that actually gets at something which I think. I want to actually talk a little bit more about the Obama musical, because it's so fitting that Obama is getting a musical in the sense that the Obama first of all musicals are totally like a fancy white liberal thing a white people think, yeah, and Obama was kind of he was the last gasp of this sort of white lib dominated America, Like it's this is the group that gave us. 00:24:26 Speaker 5: Hamilton ironic because he's black. 00:24:28 Speaker 8: Yeah, of course, but it's this is totally the sort of thing that they would get into the whole. You know again, they pushed Hamilton everywhere that was dominating DC in the mid twenty tens. And you just read the descriptions of these Apparently the guy who plays Obama comes on stage and says, I'm mother effing Obama. It's definitely a way a millennial would do it. I love these descriptions. Here, Hillary Clinton is the bitter scorned woman with a feminist rant titled My Turn. It's then followed by a performance by a bikini clad Sarah Palin titled PG thirteen warning Drill Me Baby. She is joined by fellow villains Mitch McConnell, Ted Cruz, and various blonde hobots from phone News. The Republicans convene a meeting of WHAM, the white hetero affluent men group, where they appoint Herman Kine as a token black member. Lindsey Graham prances about with a tiny parasol and makes uh somewhat uncouth comments, and they exclude Trump entirely from the story. 00:25:32 Speaker 11: Wow, they just wanted a breather from Trump. All right, Cliff, we have it. Twenty five moment. 00:25:39 Speaker 2: A lot of pressure. 00:25:42 Speaker 3: All three four. 00:26:00 Speaker 9: Much lower expectations. 00:26:01 Speaker 2: Thanks, that's pretty good. You gotta play the ending. 00:26:06 Speaker 5: Dance. 00:26:08 Speaker 3: That's great. 00:26:09 Speaker 5: That's great. 00:26:10 Speaker 8: We gotta get the suits. You gotta get the suit. That's like, really good. You you hit that note. 00:26:14 Speaker 11: Yeah, listen, I'm all for bringing back masculinity to the arts. 00:26:20 Speaker 5: The arts are awful because it's run by a bunch of fem Nazis and gay people. 00:26:24 Speaker 11: If you could actually insert some freaking masculinity in there. And then you got Christopher Nolan, who should be kind of a masculine director, and he's watching everything. 00:26:33 Speaker 3: Speaking of the arts, I know that Blake on the next topic, wanted to do some some review of deleting. I guess fiction, but a certain type of fiction, Isn't that right, Blake? True? 00:26:47 Speaker 8: Do we want to jump into that? Yeah, let's hit it all right, So let's get it. Oh, especially the way we've moved this here, let me go grab the original tweets. So this was all prompted by a rather amusing observations someone made on X they were going through Amazon. Amazon has some amazingly good detailed tracking of who is buying their products, and Amazon sells a lot of books. They sell a lot of the only books people buy anymore are romance novels, and they have them subdivided into a bunch of categories, including interracial romance. 00:27:20 Speaker 5: Big Jacques category. 00:27:21 Speaker 8: That's a category interracial romance and someone top one hundred best selling interracial romance novels of the past year, and thirty eight of them are white guy, black woman, twenty of them are white guy Asian women. 00:27:39 Speaker 7: Nineteen of them. 00:27:41 Speaker 8: Are white guy with a white woman but misclassified because they classify an Italian or a Russian as not white. Then they have nine of them are white guy Latina woman. For are white guy Indian woman. Six out of one hundred they're both not white is gay. One was a I believe, but I think it looks like Asian man black woman, and one was Asian man white female. 00:28:09 Speaker 3: So hold on, no, like white, what the audience I think? I think I think we need to know what the audience is for this, because this is this is I think the sailing point here. 00:28:20 Speaker 7: I think, well, we don't. 00:28:21 Speaker 8: I don't think we have that data specifically, but I think we know like. 00:28:25 Speaker 3: The white male it was in the tweet the tweet thread. 00:28:28 Speaker 11: Fifty eight were it basically I'm super sixty five how many how many are black male? Like seventy seventy seventy No, we are well over seventy we are. 00:28:39 Speaker 7: Look it was thirty nineteen nine. 00:28:41 Speaker 8: Literally over ninety percent of them are a white guy with a non white woman. The answer, as Jack is getting that, is these are consumed overwhelmingly by women, and it turned and in general, i'd say consumed by in this case women of color, black women looking they all pray, they crave the hairy barbarian Nordic bodies in their romance telling. 00:29:06 Speaker 5: Actually the. 00:29:09 Speaker 3: Multicultural and based on Amazon bestsellers, wait, wait, pull up the where is that a ideal? Again? Uh? And I just want to read it. Based on this, the the overwhelming market is heavily dominated by b w w M black women white man pairings, particularly within the billionaire mafia and sports romance subgenres. Dark Romance and Forced Proximity are currently the top performing and and blake. The point that they're getting at, I believe is that the the audience for this is is not white men, is it. 00:29:46 Speaker 8: No, it's not, it's it is the women themselves. And that's why I find this really interesting. This is no, it's I think it's it's like black women. Black women want to read a romance novel where a white guy falls in love with a black woman, A lot of them do. 00:29:59 Speaker 5: I bet there's some white women that read this stuff. 00:30:01 Speaker 7: Probably. 00:30:01 Speaker 8: I think they're probably not put off by it because a lot of the women who read this are woke, so they'll they'll feel righteous as they read this, and then the other groups actively like it. 00:30:12 Speaker 11: American white women do the misclassified the Italian Russian male with a white woman. 00:30:18 Speaker 8: They might, I like this question that forced proximity subgenre. What's very interesting about romance novels in general. They have a lot of very specific niche subgenres that will get tons of entries. I know we've talked in here before how there's a million hockey romances, Like just go to Barnes and Noble you'll signed tons of them and they're all hockey specifically. But they'll also do that with types and so they mentioned they're the billionaire subgenre, the mafia subgenre, the sports and yeah, forced proximity, that would be. There's tropes where I think two people are fish out of water and you are, you know, very different worlds, and you contrive a reason they're stuck together. So that could be they're in a shipwreck and they're stuck on a desert island, stuck or yeah, stuck in an elevator, trapped in a panic room, trapped on an alien planet. A million different federations of this, but they'll all follow the same beats of Oh, I like the idea of that being trapped together. 00:31:12 Speaker 5: Did anybody here ever date a black woman? Looking at you, Cliff, No. 00:31:19 Speaker 3: Andrew, is something you want to something you want to share. 00:31:20 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna be fair. I'm gonna I'm gonna be very blunt. Most black it's not me. Most black women hate me. Oh, I don't know why. 00:31:29 Speaker 8: In general, I don't know what it is. Do you like if you like show up. 00:31:36 Speaker 4: And I don't know what it is they know black women like, I'm not kidding, it's been my whole life. 00:31:43 Speaker 9: I don't know what it is like. 00:31:44 Speaker 7: They're just like bothered by black. 00:31:47 Speaker 4: Most black women like, Yeah, most black women do not find me funny. They do not like me. They don't think my humor is good. They don't think like my sassiness or whatever, like, they don't. 00:31:59 Speaker 7: I so I used to. 00:32:01 Speaker 8: So you discovered this through experience or something like you this is anecdotal. 00:32:07 Speaker 4: Personal experience. Like I have many stories. I don't know if I should share them, but like it is. 00:32:13 Speaker 8: You like at an R and B concert and you were okay, fine the shore show I was when I was in college, I worked for a bank. 00:32:20 Speaker 3: You went to see the Michael Jackson movie and he was thrown out. 00:32:23 Speaker 5: When I asked somebody to be quiet and he got when I worked for college. 00:32:27 Speaker 4: When I was I was in college, I worked for a bank and we acquired a bank that was largely based in Detroit, and every single bank manager that I was there to support was a black woman. And I talked to basically exclusively black women every single day. And I was like, I'm like, I was a really nice personally. They did not like me at all, Like, did not like not none of them. It was like I was batting zero job. 00:32:55 Speaker 8: But I have that are loved by Like one of my friends is like loved by black. 00:33:00 Speaker 11: I'll run into black women just like at the store, at whatever, and they're like, I mean, get on like a house on fire. 00:33:07 Speaker 5: I'm not you. 00:33:08 Speaker 3: You need to think it's if you're in the military government, you'll find that a lot of like the administrative HR roles tend to be black women. So if you can't you know, build a rapport there, if you can't just have a conversation, then like you are not going to be very successful in any of those roles. And what can I say? Look, Cliff, you know, coming from the Philly area, like it's just something you grow up with. 00:33:30 Speaker 4: Hey, hey, Like on that list, are there any black women Mexican man novels? 00:33:35 Speaker 7: Uh? I don't think so. 00:33:38 Speaker 8: It seems like there was Asian, there's Asian male, There's. 00:33:42 Speaker 5: Nine white male, Latin female. 00:33:44 Speaker 7: See, are there any others? 00:33:45 Speaker 8: Let's see, uh authors, Yeah, I don't think there is. Amusingly, there is exactly one. 00:33:56 Speaker 5: There's one. 00:33:57 Speaker 8: There is one Indian male, white female novel written by an Indian woman, and it has arranged. 00:34:03 Speaker 7: Marriage themes arranged marriage. 00:34:06 Speaker 5: So that's that's definitely phil This is hilarious. So this this tweet was drafted as a guy boucie. I guess, yeah, and. 00:34:12 Speaker 11: He goes there was only one black male, white female romance novel. At least that's what I thought. It turns out the male protagonist is Russian with a Viking with Viking traits, and apparently the cover used stock photography at relaunch in an effort to quote appeal to a different audience. 00:34:29 Speaker 8: These covers are amazing, by the way, let's see if we can throw up. 00:34:32 Speaker 7: One of these. 00:34:33 Speaker 8: We have Fjord Lord's Captive there. That one is really amazing looking. 00:34:38 Speaker 11: So you know, what's weird about this is because I'm looking at this this image right here, and I mean, so here, I gotta put this image up here. But what's interesting about this is so this is this is all consumed by women. Yes, so women apparently like the yeah there you go, Alfa Alpha's mate, Bad Boy Bears Book two terrible. 00:35:02 Speaker 5: But it's actually this. 00:35:03 Speaker 8: Is what this is the only thing keeping the bottom like sixty percent of the population literate. 00:35:08 Speaker 7: By the way, that's very you. 00:35:12 Speaker 11: Yes, it's interesting if you if you swap the rolls like men are kind of famous for porn. I don't I mean, I'm not encouraging that eleven year olds where the roles would be reversed. It's a famous genre. 00:35:24 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not it. 00:35:24 Speaker 7: It certainly is. 00:35:26 Speaker 8: Uh, it's just a fascinating weird wait wait wait is that wait? 00:35:31 Speaker 3: Wait what are we showing here? 00:35:32 Speaker 7: What are they putting? 00:35:34 Speaker 3: Wait, producer has made Wait, Blake, you have a series of inter racial novels, Blake, is that true? 00:35:45 Speaker 7: Look? 00:35:45 Speaker 8: I'm looking at the author here, rights all, he's got the. 00:35:50 Speaker 3: Rice hat on and he's with a Vietnamese girl. 00:35:54 Speaker 5: After though, that was that that one? 00:35:56 Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's Blake after a hunter, Blake. Why are you wearing dress shoes on the beach? 00:36:01 Speaker 8: A man should always be properly dressed at all times, Jack, This. 00:36:04 Speaker 3: Is literally ignite everything. I love how you have the quarter zip no matter what situation you're in. By the way, like on. 00:36:11 Speaker 8: The pal A man should always be properly dressed, wrapped in an elevator on the rice patties. 00:36:18 Speaker 5: That one's hilarious. 00:36:19 Speaker 8: Where you were in the Yeah, the woman with the hat, the rice patty hat. 00:36:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we were just talking about that. 00:36:25 Speaker 9: We were just talking about this story. 00:36:29 Speaker 3: Now, that's the plot of A Good Morning Vietnam, right, doesn't he have he has like Vietnamese like girlfriend that he meets when he's uh, when he's Rob Williams when he stationed there. 00:36:39 Speaker 7: I don't know, I've never seen that movie, has never. 00:36:42 Speaker 3: Seen Good Morning Vietnam. 00:36:44 Speaker 11: Gosh, what is the takeaway here, Cliff, Why are white men dominating the interracial romance novel category? 00:36:53 Speaker 3: Look, here's what I need to say about that. We are not objects. Stop objectifying us. 00:36:59 Speaker 7: We keep objectifying us. 00:37:01 Speaker 5: Do it? This weird like underhanded compliment individuals in culture and they hate us politically. 00:37:08 Speaker 7: But that's the take that's the takeaway. They can yeah, you can. 00:37:11 Speaker 2: No, We'll go with that with that on the surface. 00:37:15 Speaker 3: The hate is on the surface, because what's simmering right underneath? 00:37:19 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's I mean, we've also seen that. We've seen the No. 00:37:23 Speaker 3: I just think that I've seen who watches Bridgerton? Okay? You did you watch it? 00:37:33 Speaker 2: Ridgerton? 00:37:34 Speaker 3: Wow? 00:37:34 Speaker 7: Did you watch it? 00:37:35 Speaker 5: Jack? 00:37:37 Speaker 4: No? 00:37:38 Speaker 7: Okay? All right? 00:37:39 Speaker 8: I mean he says he's seen who watches it? 00:37:41 Speaker 7: I don't know. 00:37:42 Speaker 10: I have a last point of clarification. We're saying that the people that are buying these books, we we know that they are minority females. 00:37:51 Speaker 3: Or that's what significantly that's according to this data, according to this data set from based on based on sales and Amazon data. 00:38:00 Speaker 5: Where's the fact I didn't see that anywhere Blake was in the thing Blake was presuming No. 00:38:08 Speaker 3: No, No, it's it's in the thread. You put it in the chut, is it? No? 00:38:13 Speaker 5: This is Uh he's presuming from a T shirt and sell it. 00:38:24 Speaker 4: Maybe I made it our I made it our group photo on telegram. 00:38:29 Speaker 7: Jesus did look at that? 00:38:32 Speaker 11: Okay? That is Jack, don't say anything. Don't say anything, Cliff. What is the takeaway here? 00:38:38 Speaker 3: Uh? 00:38:38 Speaker 10: The takeaway I do agree with Jack is that they act in public and virtue signal that all white men are evil, but in reality they've got a soft spot for us. 00:38:49 Speaker 4: Well here, here's what's confusing about it. I mean, we've made pretty dramatic in roads with black men, uh, specifically, like black men love Trump and they broke in the whole since Obama says, we were just talking about Obama, since the Obama era. Black women not so much. Black women are not big fans of most of us, but they're buying the books, so there's got to be an inroad there politically. 00:39:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, I also got my African American. 00:39:20 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:39:20 Speaker 2: I also think, yeah, they do love Trump. 00:39:22 Speaker 10: But I do think we always underestimate how much black men hated Kamala Harris. 00:39:29 Speaker 2: I mean, yes, they hated her with a passion. 00:39:32 Speaker 7: How they feel about Michelle. 00:39:34 Speaker 10: I think they look at Michelle Obama as like an actual black woman. I think they just looked at Kamala and it was a little. 00:39:39 Speaker 5: Too yappy and a little too like Indian. 00:39:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, is she faking it? Is really a black woman? Correct? 00:39:49 Speaker 11: Charlie used to talk a lot about Angel Studios and what they were building, and as you know, I've been a longtime fan of it for the same reason. So I wanted to share some of my favorite films and shows on Angel, and I put them all in into one easy to use watch list. This is content that's actually worth your time, not just noise or recycled talking points, but stories that go a level deeper and ask better questions. That's what stands out about Angel to me. They're willing to put out films and documentaries that don't just follow the usual script, especially when it comes to politics, culture, and the bigger conversations you and I should be having. So on my watch list you'll find picks that lean into those topics, but there are also solid options for family or just something meaningful to watch at the end of a stressful day. If you want to check it out, go to Angel dot com. Slash Charlie and take a look at the watch list I put together. 00:40:38 Speaker 8: If someone's asking if they can make a romance novel cover set in the Roman Empire, you would be good at that. 00:40:44 Speaker 3: But they did ask for his own comments. Oh dear, can we hit We got it before. I I have a herd out, but but I would I would love to hit this. This stillennial mom thing. This, I've been sitting on this for like two weeks now. 00:41:00 Speaker 11: You're talking about the one where forty year old moms are having more babies than. 00:41:05 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, not that one. It's related to that, but this was the one where it was like they were saying that millennial moms, so moms who I guess like are in their thirties forties now, are actually reporting more. This is a Newsweek article, and they were reporting to be more, feeling more drained, feeling more mentally anguished, feeling more what was the word resentful? This This is the headline from Newsweek, feeling more resentful than mothers I of other generations, so gen X and baby boomer boomer mothers. And it said, well, the findings suggest that while motherhood has changed across generations, the burden of managing family life still falls disproportionately on moms. Okay, that's kind of a ridiculous suggestion, like, obviously moms are the best at raising families, because that's why we have moms, that's what they're fort But it was talking about how millennial moms have a higher rate of burnout and resentment and that personal time is their number one need and stated that way more than Gen X or baby boomer moms. And I wanted to throw out to the Chat, of course, which we are reading, and also to the gang here as to what we think might be the reason for this huge generational disparity. 00:42:24 Speaker 5: Social media. 00:42:27 Speaker 7: Social media. 00:42:29 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, it's just like they all look, I'm telling you, they all look on Instagram, and they all compare their lives to all the other moms and how they have it put together, and they're like, my life sucks compared to them. 00:42:39 Speaker 5: I'm resentful. 00:42:40 Speaker 7: Delete Instagram. 00:42:41 Speaker 11: Yeah, seriously, they would believe spy if they just deleted Instagram. 00:42:44 Speaker 10: When you figure, if you're in your thirties or forties, you know you're raising kids in the era of like you have to be a victim. You know, we've kind of gone over the hump of that. And it's like, I think they're probably fighting for privileged points. And it's like you said, everybody's critical on social media. 00:42:59 Speaker 11: I mean, I also yeah, but I also think it's like the expectations on moms these days are completely out of bounds. Like gen xers were free range kids, like Boomers like let their kids just like ride around the park and ride around the neighborhood, like they didn't have to helicopter parent them. 00:43:15 Speaker 5: So you got to do that. Then you got to get them the tutor. 00:43:17 Speaker 11: Then you gotta get them the piano lessons and the and the like fencing, like whatever the hell. 00:43:21 Speaker 7: We've made being a parent a lot more miserable. 00:43:23 Speaker 5: It made being a parent a lot more miserable. 00:43:25 Speaker 8: Like it's it's more time consuming. There's a lot more things you have to worry about either literally, So if you live in a place with bad public schools, now that's something you have to You might have to homeschool, you might have to find the right private school or get them into the right a boss babe. 00:43:42 Speaker 5: At the same time, Yeah, and you got to have a job. You have to full time job. 00:43:46 Speaker 3: And that's that's what the article is talking about I'm doing my tie right now as we as we chat here because I have a hit. But uh, Jolie Silva PhD, how's my tie? I wasn't even looking. It's pretty good bed for a press, not bad for a Catholic school. Good that millennial mothers were raised in a climate of women's empowerment to climb the corporate ladder, be entrepreneurs, become highly educated and make their own money. Most of these women also wanted to be moms and perhaps weren't presented with the realities of the hardest job. So you have the girl bossism on one hand, but I would I would definitely argue that Instagram brain is a huge part of that, particularly because you know they go on Instagram and you know they're going to see like some influencer who's like got the perfect house, got the perfectly you know, is like working out all the time, everything seems great, kids seem great, has a job, and it's like, how am I supposed to compete with that? And internally, subconsciously it creates all of these problems. So that's why I tweeted on Mother's Day that if you want to be a good husband to your wife to your spouse on Mother's Day. Yes, of course, take her out, treat her well. But if you really want to help her unburden her mental load, if you want to help her find that way to realize, don't get her SPA tickets, don't give her that BackRub. The main thing that you can do is to take her phone and delete Instagram. 00:45:10 Speaker 5: I gotta agree with that. I think. 00:45:12 Speaker 11: Yeah, so Russ is making a good point because they're doing wedding planning right now, and like the fomo thing is real. So my wife used to be a wedding planner and she and her mom did the business together, and they were talking about how bride just kept getting worse and worse because of pinterest. So they would all compare their wedding even though they had like a fifty thousand dollars budget or thirty thousand dollar budget, and they'd be comparing it to like a million dollar budget or half million dollar budget. So all they're feeling is like inadequacy after inadequacy, fomo fomo fomo. So you know, poor Russ is trying to plan one right now, and you're comparing yourself to like the entirety of the internet. This is why I think people were happier when we just lived in like villages. 00:45:49 Speaker 5: You still have neighbor to what used to just resent your neighbor. 00:45:52 Speaker 11: Yeah, when you were living in a village, and just like imagine like prehistoric times, you're literally your psychology on some level. 00:45:59 Speaker 3: As Pride used to talk about this what Scott Adams used to say, exactly what you're saying right now. 00:46:04 Speaker 11: Okay, I'm legitially not ripping it off Scott Adams, but. 00:46:09 Speaker 3: It's point agreed with. 00:46:13 Speaker 11: You just compare yourself to the other, like you know, Neanderthal and like making fire in the corner. Oh, you got a bigger deer than me. Okay, I guess that's but you would also know your role in like a social structure much more clearly, Like I'm part of the guys that go out and hunt for you know, wild you know, animals, you know, or you're a woman that sits around and you you you know, make the bread. 00:46:35 Speaker 8: A really interesting manifestation of that that I don't know if it's really been deeply investigated, but it's an interesting theory. So we talk about number of kids people are having fertility rates over the past five years, roughly since COVID. The number of children being born in middle to lower middle income countries has absolutely cratered, like the number of kids that are having in Latin America because the number of so the number of kids they're having in the least, the number of kids they're having in Southeast Asia. Those places that are they're not rock bottom poor, but they're lower they're middle to lower middle class countries. 00:47:09 Speaker 7: And I think a real factor in that. 00:47:10 Speaker 8: As you say, they got cell phones, they got on social media, so we're getting fomo of things in the United States. Imagine how bad your life fomo is if you're a person living on three thousand dollars a year in Jakarta, Indonesia. 00:47:24 Speaker 5: Crazy story on this. 00:47:26 Speaker 11: So when I graduated college, I ended up joining up with an organization. I went to Africa for a mission trip and I was there for months and I was around the Maasai people. So we would do these like little tours out, you know, to Massai land. And at one instance I was literally in a Massie hut, like a traditional like old ancient hut. There's nothing modern about it, but they did it in the all the old school Waight. When I got in there, I saw a car battery that they somebody had sold them, and they used the car battery to charge their self phones. So these Masai are living completely ancient lives. And this is like probably at the advent of like smartphone technology, maybe a little before. But I remember thinking they had full cell service out there. They lived in a hut, they were hunter gatherers, but they had a car battery to charge their cell phones. 00:48:18 Speaker 5: It was like the wildest dichotomy. 00:48:20 Speaker 11: They didn't have anything else, but they had a car battery to charge with. 00:48:23 Speaker 3: But so they could they use the car battery to charge the cell phone, so they could get on Amazon and download the interracial novels. 00:48:31 Speaker 5: It correct with the white men. 00:48:33 Speaker 2: Were they happy? Were they happy? 00:48:36 Speaker 5: They were happy? Those folks were really happy. But again, this was at the advent of all that. 00:48:40 Speaker 11: But I sort of wonder if you if I went back now and I saw them still living in huts, you know, dodging elephants literally, like, you know, would they now have. 00:48:50 Speaker 5: iPhones or androids. 00:48:52 Speaker 11: Comparing themselves to Western cultures or Asian cultures, fast or whatever. It was a really really fascinating experience. 00:49:00 Speaker 3: No, I think that's a huge part of it. I think you are starting. And by the way, I've seen something too with like millennials and consumers on on Instagram in general, where people like act like they've got a brand if they've and the end they'll have like two hundred followers or whatever, and it's like, what's up, guys, here's what I'm doing today, la la la, And it's like like who who are you? Like what are you doing? Like we shouldn't all yeah exactly like nine views or something. And I'm not dissing it or anything like like if you want to get started, that's fine, but I do think that we've created a problem. We have a problem in society and social media, particularly Instagram and TikTok caused this where everybody wants to be like the person on stage. Everybody wants to be the you know, the the center of attention, and it creates this this really narcissistic feedback loop for a lot of. 00:49:52 Speaker 6: People like constantly creating this content and they're and just real quick, and it disconnects you from what you are doing in the moment because you are like you are wanting to be you know, you're you're wanting to like film it for people else wise, rather and you see this, of course in like the wake of you know, horrific tragedies or evenge or like car crash, and it's like, oh, I got a film this for the gram as opposed to be like, oh my gosh, can I help someone. Well, this is ultimately why Blake's right, We're gonna lose to China because we are we are producing a culture where everybody wants to be a social media influencer. And can I just tell you as somebody who did my darness to avoid ever being a public person until what happened to Charlie and I was sort of like forced to be more public. 00:50:37 Speaker 5: Being private was way better. And actually, like I I've. 00:50:41 Speaker 11: Made me feel bad for you, Jack, because like you know, Charlie obviously was a very coliger. He's not here. You've been You've been forced to be a public figure. Well you did it to yourself, but like you've had to endure it for years, and I think it's I got a bug in my Throat's downside of it is like really really shockingly awful. 00:51:03 Speaker 5: I will tell you. 00:51:04 Speaker 4: I think the worst thing in modern culture with women on particularly Instagram, is this crossover between the the the arch of are the arc not the arch the arc of the pick me girl crossing into the main character syndrome the girl pick me girls on Instagram are people who are trying to exemplify their superiority over other women. So sometimes they're it's deprecating of other women. 00:51:40 Speaker 5: They're a mean girls. 00:51:41 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's kind of like mean girl syndrome. 00:51:44 Speaker 3: No, it's like it's like, I'm not like, I'm not like other girls. I'm like one of the guys. 00:51:48 Speaker 2: They're fishing for comments, they're trying to, you know, get clout with the. 00:51:52 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh is it is? 00:51:53 Speaker 1: It? 00:51:53 Speaker 5: Is it male geared? 00:51:58 Speaker 3: It's like those other girls are Hustyes, those are thoughts, those are whatever, Like I'm not I'm cool, I'm not like them. 00:52:05 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, Yeah it's funny. 00:52:06 Speaker 11: There was like a whole conspiracy theory that I deleted my Instagram because it was like it had all this like stuff on it that was really important public knowledge. 00:52:15 Speaker 5: It was literally just pictures of my kids. 00:52:17 Speaker 11: So my wife took my phone and like, I haven't been on Instagram in like a long time. 00:52:22 Speaker 5: People send me Instagram. 00:52:23 Speaker 3: It was it was it was just this weird account I found, like Andrew Corvette too, and it's just weird pictures of you, Like I think it's a I don't know if it's real, but it's just Andrew and Spiedo's like, no, it's my. 00:52:33 Speaker 4: It's actually it's actually Andrew singing on stage and uh. 00:52:38 Speaker 11: It is. 00:52:40 Speaker 5: My heart. You saw it too, Yeah, that's oh no, that's pretty funny. I had to say, literally, that's what the hut looked like. 00:52:52 Speaker 4: Andrew Andrew Colvet goes into MESSI territory comes out. 00:52:59 Speaker 2: Can you steal my? 00:53:01 Speaker 4: I don't know. 00:53:02 Speaker 8: I did just tell groc give it a penny African title, and it went with that. 00:53:08 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. 00:53:09 Speaker 5: It's pretty good. 00:53:09 Speaker 8: These things are overtaking us. They're coming up with bad puns for romance. 00:53:14 Speaker 5: Let me see, that's what the hut looked like. And it was filled with flies. 00:53:17 Speaker 11: That's what they don't show you in that romance romance novel, absolutely filled with flies. 00:53:22 Speaker 10: You bring up a great point about the public. Uh, you know, we all kind of have this public persona. But it's like people ask me all the time, like what is your like off ramp from politics and what you're doing, and I'm like, my dream is like the day that I can delete all social media, right, I mean, and I don't mind saying this in their like I really have to do it to raise the money, right, like to have a pro to get the people to apply for door knocking. Sure, but like really the public perception is well, all these other groups are doing this, like it's about you know, being able to reach donors and having a presence out there and commenting. But like the day I'm done, like phone in the trash, I'm off all social media. 00:54:01 Speaker 11: Yeah, man, I genuinely think that it if if I could be king of the world for one day and they and I. 00:54:08 Speaker 5: Could just destroy social media, Like that's what I would do. 00:54:11 Speaker 7: Yeah, well one of my dream laws. 00:54:13 Speaker 5: It would be like legitimately the best thing. 00:54:15 Speaker 8: They could ever Like I have to I frankly, I wasn't even on Twitter until last fall, and then I know you, like I had, you ordered me onto it. You said you've got to go, You've got to You've got to start an xccount. I'm like, okay, fine, But I think ideally, yes, I think a huge number of our social ills are downstream of social media. And if I could, I think I would I would pass the law and say yeah, we're we're abolishing Instagram, or we're at least restricting it. One of my hot takes is Instagram is bad for women in the same way that hardcore pornography is bad for men, and that it takes a natural drive that a person has that is overall good and it supercharges it in a. 00:54:57 Speaker 7: Way that is destructive. 00:54:58 Speaker 8: So with pornography, like men are supposed attracted to women, they're supposed to psue wom they're supposed to try to have kids with women. Uh, and you're you're blowing that out with a super stimulus and it's messing with your head. 00:55:06 Speaker 3: Got to got to dip guys, Jack, Thanks, I love you, enjoy your head. What are you doing, Becka Rob schmid On on News News have fun. 00:55:17 Speaker 7: Instagram? 00:55:17 Speaker 8: Instagram though, same thing that women are women. As we've said, they're Norman forces. They are naturally going to care about what other people are doing and think of them. They're the they're the glue that holds a community together. And we're super stimulating that. We're showing them too much of what's going on for too many people, and it's making them feel massively inadequate when that would not be the case if they were in a normal community with normal people of their normal social circle. 00:55:46 Speaker 5: Well, and and by the way, the the cure to this is community and namely church. 00:55:52 Speaker 9: Course. 00:55:52 Speaker 11: Yes, course, it was like Jonathan Hyde had this clip and I want to pull it again. But he was asked the question like who raises better kids right wingers or left wingers, and he. 00:56:02 Speaker 8: Was like, he said, not even close. 00:56:03 Speaker 11: Not even it's not even like statistically close. I'm not even going to try and throw a bone to the left the right. The kids of the right are completely more well adjusted. And he specifically brought up social media that they're more likely not to get washed out to see is I think the way he put it, because right wingers tend to go to church, they have based in communities, based in family communities. 00:56:23 Speaker 5: And they're just way more stable. 00:56:26 Speaker 11: So women that have families that kids that like are have like a stable husband that I think they are going to endure the onslaught of social media much much more in a healthy way than. 00:56:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, he calls it. He calls it the happiness gap. 00:56:42 Speaker 10: Right, the happiness gap is because the right wingers will keep their kids off the phone. 00:56:46 Speaker 11: Mm hmm, Yeah, I mean we're we're talking about strategies right now because my kids are little, but we're you know, we want to be able to get a hold of them for safety. But they make all these phones that don't have the smartphone stuff on it. 00:56:57 Speaker 5: Really steve Jobs ruined. 00:56:58 Speaker 8: Everything is insane how much phones mess with you. I think one of the craziest ones to me is there's some study that having a phone in the room you're not on it, but there's just a phone in the room damages your ability to do focused work and on things you don't even it's not even, it's not even that you are because you grab the phone and distracts you just you're thinking about the phone and what's on it. You have to literally take the phone, remove it from the room. 00:57:26 Speaker 11: So I'm actually doing a big camping trip with my kids where the whole thing is digital Detox, n Where you're going, I'm not going to say for privacy, but it's really fun. 00:57:38 Speaker 5: Out out of state, yeah, out of state. 00:57:40 Speaker 11: So we're going for four days and we're Digital Detoks Western western United States of course, northwestern Southwest. So the point is they put your phone in a box for four days and if like there's an. 00:57:54 Speaker 5: Emergency with your family whatever. They have a satellite phone. That's the only way. 00:57:58 Speaker 2: Oh, this is like set up where you're ye set up. 00:58:00 Speaker 11: A guy invited me to it and I was like, this sounds rad. So it's a bunch of dance with their kids. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. But it's four days without a phone. And I was like, you know what, I freaking need this this Mother's Day month. 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Call eight three three eight five zero baby that's eight three three eight five zero two two two nine, or click on the preborn banner At Charliekirk dot com. 00:59:19 Speaker 7: Zusu's pedals has chimed in again. Thank you, Zuzu. 00:59:21 Speaker 8: She says Instagram is for people too illiterate to read real news on X. I am going to critique that a little bit at zuzu. Obviously all of us are on X. We get a lot of news on X, we read takes on X, but I would say you should not use X as your exclusive news source, or maybe even your primary news source, because that's part of it. Is part of the rod of X is you're getting one a lot of AI fake stuff these days, but also just a lot of very brief hot takes that are not allowing you to fully grasp what's going on. I would encourage everyone if you're if you want to be an informed person, you should have normal news sites that you read and you read full articles on them, and you should have find a substack on a topic that you like in the real world. So it can be finance, if you're in business, it can be world news and politics. Just subscribe to Nate Silver or something. Nate Silver is a good one to read. But find the thing that you can learn where that involves reading full long articles, because you need to have that ability to digest a long argument about something. 01:00:29 Speaker 11: So I actually had this conversation I had to do in an event with doctor Ben Carson last week in DC, and I was talking to it. He's obviously a brain surgeon, you know, a neuroscientist. He said that reading long form is the single most powerful I guess contributor to like strong neural pathways that you can that you can do or you can engage in. So reading books, reading long articles. 01:00:56 Speaker 5: So much better for your brain than short form stuff. 01:00:59 Speaker 8: I even notice that in short term, like when you're just you read. When I'm in a high pace of reading, I'm doing a lot of reading each day, I start it's like your brain is putting together all these connections. I start noticing all the stuff I noticed. My vocabulary goes up. I'm detecting new words, kaboos, the bard. 01:01:16 Speaker 11: If you are going to follow somebody online, Caboose the Bard. 01:01:20 Speaker 5: If you want the guy who funniest guy on X. He says, I'm the funniest guy on X. It's criminal. 01:01:24 Speaker 8: He's the guy who does all of the sound intrusions on this. 01:01:27 Speaker 7: So if you like those, you should follow him. If you don't like those, you should. 01:01:31 Speaker 8: Follow him and send him, send him angry messages and say that you don't. 01:01:35 Speaker 5: Like Kaboose the Bard. There it is, yes, Kaboos the Bard. 01:01:39 Speaker 8: I guess all the better I guess all the better dn D classes were taken. He couldn't be Caboost the Paladin or Kaboos the Maids Caboost the Bard. Sorry I had to make that nerd joke. 01:01:49 Speaker 11: We're gonna have to find out about that too. Reading out Loud too for kids? Yeah, man, I read out Loud to my kids every night, and it's really good. But I do agree that the IQ on X is higher than the IQ another, of course, I mean just if you had to take it. Obviously there's retards on X as well, but like the full on overall, reading IQ is hier. 01:02:12 Speaker 5: It's hard work. 01:02:14 Speaker 2: Do you have to use the hangover pronunciation of retard? 01:02:18 Speaker 7: This is like, you know, I want to I want to copeck. 01:02:20 Speaker 8: It's like how Charlie would always say it Nazi when talking nasty Nazis. He would say Nazis every time without exception, And I kind of went, do you think that was in the jen Psaki? 01:02:29 Speaker 5: He would say jen Psaki? 01:02:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was a retard, says so. 01:02:35 Speaker 8: But he said Nazi because of glorious That's why he said it. But I just thought he because he would do that, not just in flippant references. He would do that when earnestly talking about World War Two or America's achievements in World War two, things like that, where where you'd think there'd be a little different way, but that was his way of doing that. It was a funny tick of his. 01:02:56 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was are we done if we want. 01:02:59 Speaker 8: Or we can keep going to what's think? Uh we could talk about the other part about about how there's no teen moms, and they're. 01:03:05 Speaker 11: All, oh, let's talk about that. Yeah, this is great. We have the graphic, right, guys, the is that rest spacy? The uh where's the graphic? Throw the graphic up? I want to read the headline about the forty year old moms. This is a wild new stat so I'm trying to find it there. 01:03:23 Speaker 5: It goes more. 01:03:24 Speaker 11: Babies born to women over forty than teens for the first time in US history. Birth rates and women over forty have dumped one hundred and ninety three percent since nineteen ninety. 01:03:33 Speaker 5: CDC reports that's wild. 01:03:36 Speaker 11: But I will tell you that, Like, so, we had our first kid when we were living in Los Angeles and the nurses were like, you know, my wife was in her twenty so they were they were like, you know, wow, this is like amazing, this is gonna be no, no, no issues here because they were so used to in LA having most of the moms be like close to forty. 01:03:57 Speaker 5: In their forties. 01:03:59 Speaker 4: I have a theory for that, and I sent it to the group too, was that teen alcoholism is way down. 01:04:05 Speaker 5: You think they're totally linked. 01:04:07 Speaker 9: I send it over to the group. I don't know. 01:04:10 Speaker 5: They're all smoking weed, which is not we get laid that eleven year olds. 01:04:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, they I mean, I think it's part of it is that alcoholism is like way down to the point. 01:04:23 Speaker 9: But if kids aren't hanging out. 01:04:24 Speaker 7: Yeah they're not. They don't hang out, they don't. But it's all. 01:04:26 Speaker 5: It's the same. 01:04:27 Speaker 9: They don't it's all good. 01:04:28 Speaker 4: Like they're not dating, they're not hanging out, they don't have inside jokes, they're not drinking, which. 01:04:34 Speaker 9: Is a good thing. Which is I mean, it's that's a good part of it. But it is. 01:04:38 Speaker 8: It is good that teenagers, teenagers are not having kids, other than we don't like it if they abort their kids, of course. 01:04:44 Speaker 7: But uh, it is. 01:04:46 Speaker 8: It is still interesting because yeah, we have the medical science to have your kids in your thirties and forties. 01:04:53 Speaker 7: But I think. 01:04:56 Speaker 8: A very real fact that people have not been on a informed about is just how much harder it is to have kids when you're in your thirties, especially if you haven't had kids before. This is the thing, that's a true fact. If you have a kid when you're twenty two, that by itself makes it easier for you to get pregnant again when you're thirty two, and it just your body becomes better at it. 01:05:18 Speaker 7: It's a real thing. 01:05:20 Speaker 11: Well, there was a you know that guy, Zoobie on X or whatever his name Zoobee. He put out this tweet like a couple of years back now, maybe it's even like five years back. And he said, do you wish you would have had more kids? Or are you happy with the number you had? This thing went so viral, like so viral. I mean it was you know, it was like twelve sixteen million engagements by the time, and it was like this the and everybody chiming into the chat was I wish I would have had more or or I had four or five, and it's just right. 01:05:46 Speaker 5: So the people that had like a lot, you know, if kids, were happy. 01:05:49 Speaker 11: But then the vast majority I got started too late, and one person let this comment that I'll just never forget, and it was basically like to your point, it was like, you know, when you get to a certain point in your life, you look back at your early twenties, mid twenties, and you realize you had this strong, healthy body that you just wasted on partying and getting drunk and not. I guess to your point, maybe they're not so much, but like that was the reflection of this person that was in their forties that had like two kids, wishes they would have had more, but struggled to get pregnant. And they basically said, it's crazy. You had the strong, healthy, like you know, fertile body, and you just you wasted all of these years doing these things that you don't even remember now or you don't even value looking back on. So I'm a big believer that if you have that nagging feeling in the back of your mind, like should I have more. 01:06:38 Speaker 10: Kids, like the answers yes, do you think abortion or you know, access to. 01:06:44 Speaker 2: Protection? I mean, does that impact this at all? Is that how we get to that stat Yeah, for sure. 01:06:50 Speaker 4: I think I think like especially teenage and college age, like college everyone that's been on a college campus is that they're like they're just like throwing condoms around, like they're like that was like a big push for the last twenty years. So that's definitely had an impact for sure. I think abortion, for sure. 01:07:10 Speaker 2: It's up sixteen last year compared to twenty twenty. 01:07:14 Speaker 9: Abortion. 01:07:15 Speaker 2: Yeah in the US, Yeah. 01:07:16 Speaker 8: Yeah, that it became a lot more common after Dobbs. 01:07:19 Speaker 7: Unfortunately, the you. 01:07:21 Speaker 8: Know left in states really went and supercharged their availability. 01:07:25 Speaker 11: Of all in the the tech companies were like, we're gonna help finance your trip to California to get you your abortion. 01:07:32 Speaker 5: Really sick stuff. 01:07:33 Speaker 11: Foz has some good take series his forties is when the wannabe girl boss, plays her final trump card and retires to motherhood. It's a tap out disguised as a win for liberals. The fact that it's that it's hard adds to the victimhood. Sorry faz If, I shouldn't have attributed that to you, uh, but it but it's kind of true. Like you know, like there is like a I think a the Boss Babe journey, like the arc of The Boss Babe right where they get to that later stage and they kind of like either have to settle or they finally find the guy that they're willing to have kids with, and then that's when they kind of come to grips to the fact there's no more time on the clock. 01:08:09 Speaker 5: I gotta go now. 01:08:10 Speaker 11: So I think that's what's driving it is a lot of this, like you know, you know, the clock's ticking down, they got to take their final shot or else. 01:08:19 Speaker 5: I think that's driving a lot of it. But you're to your point. A lot of them need a lot. 01:08:23 Speaker 11: Of fertility help, yep, a lot of doctor help, a lot of nutrition, a lot of IVF. 01:08:29 Speaker 7: It's very it's dark. 01:08:31 Speaker 8: There's a darkly funny aspect of this, which is one of the biggest reasons people give for not having kids earlier is they need to be more financially established to do it. And then when you go through this fertility stuff in your late thirties or forties, you can easily spend a six figure sum trying to get pregnant. If the cycles fail over and over, that stuff gets expensive. 01:08:52 Speaker 11: I totally agree. I was thinking about this. Oh yeah, this one. Play this clip. This is a good one from Rachel Wilson. I'm still trying to get her on the show. She's great, but she kind of gives a little bit of kind of like it's talking around some of these issues that we're talking about, how unhappy moms are, how unhappy women are in general, and yeah, loaded a twenty nine. Okay, great, go ahead and play. 01:09:14 Speaker 12: And women just overall reporting dissatisfaction on happiness, a feeling of being really torn, trying to have it all, trying to have a career and be a career woman and also have a family and do all of that. Women don't know what to do with relationships because on the one hand, they want men who make more than they do. They want men who are higher achieving than they are. Yet this creates a paradox whereas women have become the number one earners of college degrees, they have now got salaries that compete with men, and they've got more equality than ever before, they're finding that the men. 01:09:52 Speaker 3: Are not suitable to marry. 01:09:54 Speaker 12: They're finding that, you know, they just can't find a guy who's on their level or higher, which is what they really. 01:10:00 Speaker 11: Which has of course been your experience as well. So I just getting like, just kidding, no, But this talks about the paradox, right, because women are getting all these degrees, they're trying to do it all, and then they get to the point where they're forty and they're like, okay, I think a lot of them settle, if I'm just being honest, Like they settle for the guy they can get at forty because they realize there's, you know, all of a sudden, your math changes when you get forty. Charlie used to talk about this all the time, especially as like, you know, women like a lot of the good ones are gone by the time thirty rolls around. If you're a woman and you're trying to get a mate, right, you're a good man, like a lot of them tend to get married and or like you know, are no longer in the dating pool at that point. So I'm a big fan of starting early. I don't think you should rush. It's not what I'm saying. Don't don't pick the wrong guy. Make sure you've sussed them out, make sure you go through premaral counseling. 01:10:51 Speaker 5: I'll do all the things. But man, I think if you're at thirty and. 01:10:58 Speaker 11: You're just starting to think about it, I do believe that that's like the wrong strategy, the wrong approach. If you know in your life you want to get married, nep kids, I think earlier is better. 01:11:07 Speaker 5: Yeah, right, Cliff. 01:11:10 Speaker 2: Yes, sure, yes, sure, so hold on just REALQUI like the stat was? I then we jumped around. The stat was the people in their forties are having more kids than teens. 01:11:18 Speaker 7: Yes, for the first time ever. 01:11:19 Speaker 2: That's wild. 01:11:20 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean but and and definitely I bet well, I don't know, I don't know this, but there's probably fewer people now as a percentage, they're having babies in their forties. And that's how low the birth rate is for teens. 01:11:36 Speaker 8: Well more more, I think the number of births in forties is going up. 01:11:39 Speaker 5: Well, it's gone up one hundred and ninety three percent something. 01:11:41 Speaker 8: No, it's still not a very high total compared to twenties and thirties. That's why our birth rate is low. Yeah, it is somewhat marginally propped up by a few of these people. 01:11:50 Speaker 11: I bet it's because the Mormons are having fewer kids as teenagers too, my Mormon birth rates. 01:11:55 Speaker 4: No, it's Mormons, it's it's it's Orthodox, yeah, religious like so hardcore Christians, Catholics, young Catholics like most of most of my friends, I would say, and people that are a little bit younger than me that are like I guess I grew up basically just around exclusively Catholics and Mormons. Most one of two directions. What they either immediately came out of high school and had a bunch of kids, or they waited until they're like right now, Like I know a bunch of people who are like in their late thirties early forties who are just like barely starting their family now. All of them and by the way, now all of them are pretty conservative. 01:12:37 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, millennials are getting more and more conservative. 01:12:39 Speaker 11: I think that we should like at some point devote like a show about the absolute psyop that millennials endured in this country because like, it's crazy the expectations we had in life, and like what we were told was good. Like how many millennials were told don't have kids, you know. 01:12:56 Speaker 8: Stuff, even from people who are reasonably conservative. I think about Sorry, Mom and Dad, I know you listen to the show, so I'm gonna criticize you a little bit here. But one of my sisters, she's she's a dentist, and my dad was lobbying her hard to go spend more time in school and become an oral surgeon, which is, go to school another four years. You can make more money, do all these things, but it is for more years of school. And what my sister's opinion on this was was okay, but then I won't be done with school until I'm in my thirties. And she'd gotten married by this point. She's like, I want to have kids. 01:13:33 Speaker 7: Yeah, and she. 01:13:34 Speaker 8: Has three kids now, and I'm not sure how enthusiastic she is about actually being a dentist. 01:13:39 Speaker 5: But well, by the way, that happens a lot with moms. 01:13:42 Speaker 11: Yes, their first kid, and they a lot of them just don't come back to the workforce. 01:13:45 Speaker 5: I told Daisy when she had her daughter. 01:13:47 Speaker 11: I was like, I'm not sure you're coming back like, but she's like, as a lot, we've worked out it. 01:13:52 Speaker 5: She's got a good, good situation here that she can do. 01:13:55 Speaker 8: But it's a real thing, and that parents even conserveed to parents, they like they worry about the certainly their daughters being able to support themselves. 01:14:03 Speaker 7: Being having independence. This is a real thing. 01:14:05 Speaker 8: But they do end up encouraging them down a life path where they're a lot less likely to have as many kids as their mom did or as early as their mom did. 01:14:15 Speaker 11: And then you got the hispanics that like are you'll live in like four families to an apartment building and they all have four kids, And it's you know, if you if your goal is to have kids, the point is like money, Yeah, it's a concern, but it shouldn't be your primary concern. I'm a big believer that when when you have kids, like God brings the provision. 01:14:32 Speaker 5: So I totally believe that if if you're. 01:14:35 Speaker 11: Devoted to it, and you're and you're serious about being like a good parent and a providing parent, God will bring the provision. 01:14:41 Speaker 5: I believe that. All right, guys, it's been a great show. 01:14:45 Speaker 11: I've had a good time and Cliff, do you want final words to Cliff? You know, we want you to, you know, feel like you can talk here. We're not gonna just drag you through the mud with. 01:14:55 Speaker 5: All of your extracurricular activities. 01:14:56 Speaker 2: Tyler, can we promote the coloring book? 01:14:59 Speaker 7: You did that forward? You did a forward for a coloring book. 01:15:02 Speaker 9: Uh no, No, it wasn't a coloring book. It was so Cliff has a new book that's out. 01:15:08 Speaker 7: Oh he made a coloring book. 01:15:10 Speaker 2: Yes, it's great. 01:15:12 Speaker 5: Your book on. 01:15:13 Speaker 7: The is it a romantic coloring book? 01:15:15 Speaker 4: So I actually over at the I'll bring you because Cliff was nice enough to send me a couple of boxes of them, so got them. 01:15:20 Speaker 5: Out over all, Right, what's the title? 01:15:22 Speaker 10: Run Right, runrightbook dot com grate forward by the wonderful Tyler Boyer tell a lot of stories pretty much. 01:15:29 Speaker 7: It was just the. 01:15:30 Speaker 10: Curriculum from our candidate academies, with Joshua Lysik's assistance. 01:15:37 Speaker 2: Our favorite. 01:15:38 Speaker 7: This isn't a coloring book. You lied to me. This is a normal book. 01:15:41 Speaker 10: Throw it up a lot of fun stuff from twenty twenty four and then talking through, uh the basics of I mean most of it's obviously if people want to run for state house, because that's kind of where we focus. But uh, you know, if you're an activist or if somebody wants to run, we say, if you want to run, you want to win, you want to stay principled. 01:15:57 Speaker 2: That's the point of the book. 01:15:58 Speaker 5: Good. 01:15:59 Speaker 11: Yeah, use a lot of the learning to turning point action you guys. Of course, the Citizen Alliance in PA and other places. 01:16:07 Speaker 4: There's not a lot of books out there that actually give you insight into what to do and how to win. And again, most i mean look, most Republican party apparatus, uh scenarios and most states are pretty bad. Right, So you don't get any help whatsoever from those guys because if you're conservative, they. 01:16:25 Speaker 9: Basically attack you, try to take you out. 01:16:28 Speaker 4: Most people don't help on the fundamentals when it comes to this. And Cliff is one of the very few PhDs that we have within the conservative movement. 01:16:36 Speaker 10: Got a PhD in running and in singing, not running running for office. 01:16:42 Speaker 2: I work on my push ups. I was glad you didn't turn to me and say, hey, you're getting in the challenge. 01:16:46 Speaker 5: Uh wait, so is Posto coming back for a sign off. 01:16:49 Speaker 7: No, let's just do I think we're all right, right, all. 01:16:51 Speaker 5: Right, We're good, all right, guys. 01:16:54 Speaker 11: This was a fun thought crime dot crime Thursday until next Thursday. 01:16:58 Speaker 5: Keep committing more pop crack. 01:17:04 Speaker 8: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com