Six years after he ruined millions of lives with his made-up Covid advice, Dr. Fauci showed up before Congress and had nothing to say for himself. The show plays the clips of Fauci's pathetic display and talks to Rep. Andy Ogles and Alex Berenson about the sinister doctor's legacy. Former Army Ranger Matt Tardio reacts to leaked footage from the Tyler Robinson case and takes apart bogus "lateral crawls" and other conspiratorial slop intended to sow chaos in the case.
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome everybody. It's July twenty ninth. I'm still wearing a hat for at least one or two more days. We've got Blake rejoining the show. Blake, how are we doing?
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Speaker 3: You're wearing a hat for one or two more day? Did did I miss something?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: I had like a little Are you joining me?
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Speaker 3: Is that what's going on?
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Speaker 2: Gosha? I hope not. That's not the kind of procedure we're talking about. But you never know. I'm just grateful to have hair at all. But you pull it off well, Blake. This morning was explosive. I mean, we kind of knew it was going to be explosive last night. All the speculation was he going to take the fifth or was he actually going to answer questions? And of course we're talking about doctor Anthony Fauci before the Senate hearing and committee, and he did take the fit, and yet somehow it still proved to be absolutely much what must watch your initial thoughts. It's just over the senators. I see some of the clips, the footage they're doing gaggles outside in the hallways giving their reactions. But that was It's somehow I couldn't take my eyes off it, Blake.
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Speaker 3: It's something we badly need.
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Speaker 5: We, of course, had the travesty of President Biden giving Fauci that big, sweeping pardon. Everyone knows that Fauci, he was the central character in the COVID drama. And I mean, you know me, I've been a skeptical of I've been a skeptic of a lot of the efforts against Fauci. And yet I've got to say, Rand Paul has done his work. He's made sure that whether we're able to prosecute Fauci or not, he is at least going to die a disgraced individual. He's exposed his shady behavior, the way he's deleting his emails, the way that he's he's lobbying federal employees, Hey can you nominate me for prizes so I can get money. He's making up all of his COVID stuff as he goes. He loves the fame, he loves the attention. He caused enormous damage to millions of people, and if nothing else, that is what we'd all.
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Speaker 3: Deserve to see.
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Speaker 5: We deserve to see him sitting there in Congress and saying I'm not going to say anything more, even though I have a pardon, because if I start trying to explain myself.
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Speaker 3: It will only it will put me back.
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Speaker 5: In legal jeopardy, and it will just further reveal what a what a cretan I was, how shamefully I disgraced myself and hurt this country. We needed to see that, and I'm glad that Senator Paul was able to bring it to us.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's see it. This is a Fauci's opening remarks, and he's shaken like a leaf here, Blake st nine.
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Speaker 6: Given Senator Poll's obvious obsession with calling for my prosecution, his repeated slanderous comments about me, and recently his publicly releasing my unredacted personal diary aimed at embarrassing and intimidating me, the only conclusion I can reach is that the sole reason he is calling me before this committee is to get me to say something, anything that could vindicate his repeated public pledges that I end up, in his words, quote behind bars.
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Speaker 2: So this whole thing keeps getting more and more explosive. He's trying to work through attorneys, He's there was a whole scene. We're about to play the clip it's explosive legitimately where his lawyer sitting right next to him, Ram Paul says, you were not invited to address this committee. I asked you not to sit at that table. You're doing it anyways, and then he gets escorted out twelve.
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Speaker 4: What the turn has to say.
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Speaker 7: He is not recognized by the committee or the chair. This testimony is from Anthony Fauci. This is not a game with his lawyers. In fact, the attorney was told not to sit at the table and he's not obeying that recommendation. There's a rope behind you, sir, that's where you were told to sit.
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Speaker 4: And you're not.
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Speaker 7: And now you're disrupting the proceedings. And so look, this is the way Anthony Fauci wants to be remembered. For a lawyer not listening to the rules, that's the way you want to be remembered.
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Speaker 8: And that's where you're going to do.
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Speaker 7: You are not recognized, sir, security, please removing.
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Speaker 9: From the room.
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Speaker 2: The applause was then people watching the TV all over the country doing the same. Yeah. Absolutely, you know. So there was a whole bunch of stuff you mentioned, the enriching himself. I think this is a powerful moment. I actually put the whole thing on X, this entire commentary from Josh Holly. Of course, you're dealing with somebody who's taken the fifth to every question, and yet that weirdly opened it up for them to make very powerful and poignant points over and over and over again, just dropping bomb after bomb. He wasn't fighting back, he wasn't explaining anything, and so it kind of just let guys like Senator Holly, who are very very talented at this, very accomplished lawyers, just have a field day. I thought this was particularly important as well. Blake sat Ten.
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Speaker 10: You know what I can't quite figure out is that why you were so obsessed with it, because you're already rich. I mean, in your your scheme worked here. I mean, you're not worth now as north of twelve million dollars. You got over a million dollars in cash awards during COVID during a twelve month twenty four month span during COVID, A million bucks you knocked down and cash money you using federal resources. Now you're worth more than twelve million dollars. You've got a pension that in its first year paid out north of four hundred thousand dollars a year, a million people dead, you're getting rich, a million people dead, You're using federal employees to get cash awards for you, A million people dead, and you're here taking the fifth because you don't want to admit that what really happened in all that time was a multi month, multi year course of self dealing.
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Speaker 5: It's so valuable that we're able to see that because what matters here is it actually it goes beyond Fauci. When Fauci was still in government, he was It's worth remembering, I believe the highest paid single federal employee, out of what two three four million people who work for the government in syn capacity, the highest paid one is Fauci. And then he's doing all this stuff in the background. He's getting himself rich off of some of his pharmaceutical connections. He's able to lobby other employees who he has power over in some cases, to nominate him for prizes that can get this Fauci is emblematic of. And also I should highlight this where he's sending emails to people and saying delete this afterwards, suppress this communication. This is a guy who spent his entire lifetime in government, and he learned how to enrich himself, how to empower himself, but especially how to work within the seams. This is supposed to be a democratic government. This is supposed to be a system where the people rule. That's why we have things like Foya and he's experienced. How do I get around this? How do we get around what elected representatives in our government want to do and do what I want to do.
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Speaker 3: We need to see the true.
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Speaker 5: Anthony Fauci on full display because we need to take apart that form of government. And that's why I really think it was so valuable to put all of this out there. Even if President Biden's pardon is able to hold up, even if we're unable to actually prosecute this guy the way I think he really deserves to be. We deserve to say, see him there, to see him sweat, because there are other doctor Fauci's in our government.
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Speaker 2: Oh, rooted out. That's a great point. Yeah, there's This is why DOGE was so important. This is why just obliterating the agency known as USA and USAID was so important. This is why having the federal workforce at the lowest level since the nineteen sixties is so important. So I mean, listen, there are legitimate criticisms of the administration, but in this way, we've never in our lifetime seen so much progress because there are tons of doctor Fauci's out there. And by the way, he was the highest paid employee, even more than the president. All right, Blake, So this is an important moment actually, and I think it's it's possible it gets overlooked in the whole. I mean because some of these senators, as much as you and I will joke about the show the theater of politics and nothing ever gets done, some of these guys are really talented at cross examining these people at these hearings, like Senator and I think he's ten out of ten. Rampaul did a great job. Ron Johnson did a great job. Bernie Mourno did a great job. But Ashley Moody hit a point that I want to make sure the audience is aware of, and I want you to put your mind on one year, and that is twenty fourteen. We'll explain why twenty fourteen so important, Ashley. Senator Moody does a pretty good job of it here.
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Speaker 11: It's not twenty I'm just very interested why it was this date. Did it have anything to do with the fact that twenty fourteen was also the year that theaid NIH began funding EcoHealth alliances understanding the risk of bat coronavirus emergence grant.
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Speaker 6: On the advice of Council, I respectfully declined to and so based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
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Speaker 11: And this is the same grant the fund of the work on bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute on Virology. Millions of Americans are questioning what happened during COVID, Why we were getting given mis leading information, misleading advice. Why you gave conflicting statements based on I guess how you were feeling that day.
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Speaker 2: So what's interesting, Blake about twenty fourteen is that is the same year that the Obama administration put a moratorium. They declared a moratorium on funding gain of function research in the United States citing biosecurity and biosafety concerns after a series of lab incidents, including misplaced anthrax vials and things of that nature. So President Obama, give credit where it's due, declare in coordination with HHS, declared a moratorium in twenty fourteen, and so what did they do. They moved it to Wuhan Institute in China. They moved that research with Peter Dassek and EcoHealth Alliance to the Wuhan Institute of Virology in twenty fourteen to get around the moratorium in the United States. That Anthony Fauci going around the federal government's moratorium to continue research that he deemed in his ivory tower as too important to stop by shipping it off to China. So twenty fourteen is much why the parting goes back that far.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So first of all, it's as you mentioned it.
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Speaker 5: He basically we know that Fauci now is a guy who will just privately ask for even the most outrageous things, Hey can you help me go win this prize?
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Speaker 3: Person?
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Speaker 5: And so you strongly suspect he probably was lobbying behind the scenes, Hey I need a pardon. Also, make sure it goes back. Don't just cover the twenty twenty stuff. We need to go all the way back. I'm gonna need that. He's a guy who's gonna know how this works. Think about what we've also learned about Fauci, the way he's managing Foya saying delete all of these emails. This is an operator who knows how to get what he wants, including going around at least gray areas.
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Speaker 3: If not black areas of the law.
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Speaker 5: So, as you said, twenty fourteen, Obama comes out this order no gain of function research. Well, do we think Fauci is a guy who's going to just say, oh, that's what the president wants, we're going to respect that.
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Speaker 3: Or if Fauci has something he.
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Speaker 5: Wants to do, something he feels like he wants to happen, is he going to find a way to make it happen and feel like he's almost certainly going to get away with it. I think we've seen the doctor Fauci that we've come to know thanks to Senator Paul's investigation, we have a better understanding of him. He's the kind of guy who's going to try to get what he wants. He's this bureaucratic barnacle, this bureaucratic infiltrator, this bureaucratic cancer, and he's gonna do what he wants. And so as you said, Yep, the rules say we can't do gain of function, Well, how can we do it anyway? Well, if we send some money to this NGO and they're sending it abroad. You know, no one's ever going to get in trouble for this.
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Speaker 3: Let's do it.
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Speaker 5: And then six years later this thing is coming out and even if whether it was a lablique or not, the fauci we know is going to raise his eyebrown, go oh, this could be a problem.
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Speaker 3: We'd better contain this.
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Speaker 5: And we have the emails, we have the messages where he's he's worried about that, he's setting this up. He is covering his butt. And well, of course he went to the Biden administration who was handing out pardons for this sort of thing, and says, make sure I don't ever get in trouble for this, make sure I don't ever get held accountable for this. And he got what he wanted because he's a bureaucratic operator par excellence.
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Speaker 2: Well, I actually think, you know a lot of people are not going to be happy with the fact that, you know, he does have this pardon. He pleads the fifth. This is a couple of things that I think are worth pointing out here. Did you know, Blake and I just find this interesting In Italian, the word fauci translates to jaw, mouth or throat, but while as an Italian surname, it derives from a Sicilian dialect word meaning sickle or sickle maker, so he's basically the grim Reaper. So that's just one little fun thing to keep in mind. Secondly, doctor Fauci, we now know this from the Fauci Diaries, that he was obsessed with fame, with the adulation of celebrities and high profile politicians and from the liberal establishment media. That's what he wanted. He was obsessed with being a rock star in his own words, and in some ways, it is very fitting that now he will be remembered as a disgraced bureaucrat who put more importance on cya covering his own rear as you put it, for funding the very research that ended up unleashing a virus, a deadly virus, onto planet Earth. The man is singularly responsible for millions and millions of deaths all around the world, and he ended up instead of acknowledging his mistake, instead of acknowledging that he was complicit and guilty and culpable for funding this research, he spent years pretending cosplaying as some high and mighty hero of American science and innovation. The man is a fraud. I think doctor Paul pegged him very early on, and it's a I would say, a casualty of a bureaucratic morass that is impossible to police properly. But today we at least got humiliation for doctor Fauci. He will go down in history as a disgraced bureaucrat, and he deserves to be in prison. Ran Paul is right. For nearly three thousand years, Homer's the Odyssey has shaped Western imagination. It tells the story of Odysseus as he faces monsters, shipwrecks, false comforts, and impossible choices on his long journey home. As one of the foundational works of Western literature, Homer's epic is more than a mythology. It explores permanent questions about courage, duty, loyalty, family leadership, temptation, and the search for home. In one of the epics defining moments, Odysseus rejects the offer of immortality from the goddess Calypso, choosing instead the long and difficult journey home. His decision reveals one of the central themes of the Odyssey that a life of duty, family, and home is greater than a life devoted to comfort or glory. Achilles chose glory, Odysseus chose home. That's why Hillsdale College has released its newest free online course, The Odyssey, taught by Professor Benedict Whalen. The course reveals why Homer's masterpiece remains one of the greatest works of Western literature. Find this free course at Charlie for Hillsdale dot com. A's Charlie for Hillsdale dot com. Read the classics, study the West, the Odyssey from Hillsdale College. Go to Charlie for Hillsdale dot com without further ado. We have Congressman Andy Ohguls joining us, who's one of the best congressmen I believe in the country because you know what, he's really really good on immigration and we need way more of those guys, and he's good on a bunch of stuff, and he's got a primary battle coming up in just a week. Congressman, welcome back to the show. It's good to.
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Speaker 4: See you, absolutely thanks for having me.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, so I got to start with the news of the day, the Fauci hearings. I know you weren't preceding our presiding rather over that hearing. But you, I'm sure have seen the clips. You know, speak from the perspective of a Tennesseean. What was it like watching him plead the fifth and what do you think should happen next?
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Speaker 12: We You know, during COVID, I was county mayor county executive. So for your listeners outside of Tennessee, our viewers, you know, it's the CEO of the county and had a regional hospital and a regional health department under my purview, and so I had access to a lot of data. But at the end of the day, it's still the United States of America, and I refuse to comply with any of the mandates. I kept my community open. I allowed businesses to stay open, and I didn't mandate masks. And what you saw was, you know, Murray County, where I was the county executive, is the fourteenth largest in the state of Tennessee. And when the dust settled and the virus was over, where did we rank as far as the prevalence or the numbers of viruses?
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Speaker 4: We were fourteenth. But meanwhile, we kept our freedoms in liberty. So that summer of.
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Speaker 12: COVID, I had a county fair, I had concerts on the square. To answer your question, Fauci lied to the American people. He's obstructing justice. There were liberties taking from the American people that quite frankly, sets a precedent that must be undone. And he should answer for the lies that he delivered to the American people. And quite frankly, lives were lost because he was more interested in his own popularity than uncovering the truth and making sure seniors and those with diabetes and heart disease were getting the treatments.
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Speaker 4: Instead, it was all about him.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's well said, and I believe he deserves legal accountability. I think a lot of our audience feels the same way. But it is great to know that a man that was so obsessed with fame and being loved and being a rock star in his own words, has been utterly humiliated before the American people. So at least there's that he deserves much more. It's not nearly enough, but at least there's that. Okay, let's turn to your primary battle you have coming up. I didn't see this clip, and it's amazing. President Trump really likes you a lot, so I'm gonna play a clip of him endorsing you SAT twenty two.
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Speaker 13: Andy's also been a champion of Tennessee's incredible farmers, who I love. I get there vote by massive numbers, and we love our farmers. And he stood strong for our veterans, our military, our law enforcement offices are great heroes of ice and border patrol, who are also you talk about the Second Amendment. They're under siege and unfairly. They're incredible. And very importantly, Andy strongly supports all of the things that we mentioned, but he really is going to town on the Save America Acts, so important. Andy will be really enshrined as one of the best congressmen that you'll ever see. He's just fantastic, all right.
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Speaker 2: So the reason I wanted to have you on is not just because President Trump endorsed you, which is great, but you've got a primary child. It's your second primary challenge, and this one's from a guy named Charlie Hatcher, who's the former Tennessee Agricultural Commissioner, And you have all this money pouring into your race in Tennessee, which is like you wouldn't expect it. And I'm firmly in the camp that it's happening because you are great on immigration, You're a strong conservative, you're a vocal conservative. You put yourself out there, and they really don't like you. These fake conservatives and these left wing groups, by the way, are coming after you in your primary. What did you do to upset them so much?
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Speaker 12: Congressman right, well, so this Green Energy Pact, it's literally dumping a million dollar against me right now.
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Speaker 14: In their own.
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Speaker 12: Words, said that they were, you know, because I'm a leader, I'm close to the President Trump, that they wanted to make an example out of me so future Republicans wouldn't dare be as outspoken and as conservative as I am. But you know, going back to that clip that you played, you know, President Trump is fairly sparingly with his compliments and when he said I was going to be enshrined as one of the greatest, it kind of surprised me. I mean, you know, I'm close to the President. I have the fortune of being in the Oval office quite frequently.
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Speaker 4: But again, you just never know.
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Speaker 12: You know what the President is going to say quite frankly, which is always entertaining with you when you're with him. But when he said that, I was like, wow, I very much appreciate that from the President.
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Speaker 4: But look, we're in the fight.
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Speaker 12: When I say will, I mean collectively the House representatives for the future of this nation. We are literally being attacked by the left. These radicals out of California, they're now investing in Republican primaries. So this is the same group that funded Kamala Harris and the Bernie Sanders and the libtards over there from California, they're now investing in conservative primaries in Texas and Tennessee in Florida because they don't want the voices of freedom to prevail.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's exactly my read on this as well. I mean, you've got this green energy group which is spending all this money about against you. But at the same time, it's very clear to me that the real reason this is happening is because you are an outspoken conservative. That you're talking about repealing Heartseller, that you're talking about immigration moratoriums, these types of things. They can't stand this stuff. They can't stand when people actually say what the voters want. And I can just attest that those policies that you are so outspoken on is exactly what the people in this audience believe in as well. The grassroots, the base of this party are really really fed up with a lot of stuff that you're not allowed to say in DC. And so when you poke your head up and you say it loud and proud like you do from your chest, you're gonna put a target on your back and they're gonna get millions of dollars spent from California and elsewhere to try and unseat you. So how are we looking at this race though? Sir? Yeah, go ahead.
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Speaker 12: Well, you know we've done two polls we're leading. But you take nothing for granted. And so when the White House offered to do the tell rally, of course I jumped at that opportunity. And quite frankly, it's great for Tennesseeans, the fifth Tennessee, fifth district of Tennessee to hear from the President because he's truly engaged when it comes to policy and issues.
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Speaker 4: I mean, he knows his stuff. You know, any.
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Speaker 12: Conversation I've ever had with the President, whether we're having dinner or if it's just been sitting in the Oval Office, he knows the talking points, he knows the data, he knows what he's talking about. So we truly have a commander in chief unlike Biden, who is in full control of his faculties, truly understands the moment at hand and is truly leading this nation.
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Speaker 5: Congressman, we get a lot of emails from people who are frustrated with Congress. They wish more stuff would get past, like the Save Act, like.
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Speaker 3: Other things, and they say, how can we improve it?
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Speaker 5: And we'll often point to individuals like yourself and say, improvement is happening, one change over at a time.
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Speaker 3: But as this primary.
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Speaker 5: Challenge indicates, there's a lot of people who think they have the power, they think they have the money to turn back the clock. So what is the environment like inside the House Caucus on immigration? What is the generational change that we are seeing? From your insider perspective. We love that you're calling for a moratorium. Is that the wave of the future. How many people are there who think that they can really turn back the clock on this issue and make it twenty fourteen again, make it two thousand and five again.
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Speaker 12: Right, Well, let's look at the Save America Act, right like, So you have a piece of legislation that's not controversial. You can look at the CNN poll where Republican Democrats independence eighty three percent of Americans, white, black, brown, yellow, doesn't matter, eighty three percent of Americans want that past. And yet the Senate won't take it up. And so when you take an issue like immigration, which by the way, we have to address. We have to fix this system that is broken. We're literally being invaded. We can look at the consequences that are taking place in Europe right before our eyes, so we have.
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Speaker 4: No choice but to do something.
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Speaker 12: But at the end of the day, the probably has is even if the House today passed the absolute perfect immigration reform, the Senate would go on another vacation.
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Speaker 4: And that's what's frustrating.
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Speaker 12: Quite frankly, I'm just as frustrated as the American people are.
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Speaker 4: I mean, the Save America Act. Look, if you're going to be the.
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Speaker 12: World's most powerful nation, these superpower you've got to have a strong standing army, you've got to have secure borders, and you know what, you have to have transparent and accountability in our elections. And we don't have that right now because we know that the states like California, like New York, they're going to cheat to try to win seats. So enough is enough, and so John Thune needs to put this on the Senate floor. I don't care if he has the votes or not put people on the record. And if he's unwilling to do it, he needs to step out of the way and let Mike Lee or someone else, Rick Scott, someone to take the helm to call the vote and put these folks on record.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree. And I think we're the numbers of senators that are stepping up saying cancel August recess is increasing. I know Senator McCormick from Pennsylvania is the latest to add his name to that. So God bless them. I think they're up to like fourteen or fifteen senators that are saying let's stay in DC and get the job done.
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Speaker 12: Well and on this point for the Senate, and I apologize to interrupt you, but historically speaking, when you look at the talking filibuster and the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four, the Voter Rights Act of nineteen sixty five, you look at Dodd Frank, you know, the talking filibuster has been used in the Senate over and over again to get monumental legislation across the finish line. There is a formula to do this. There is a precedent to do this. John Thune again, do your freaking job. Do what the former majority leaders have done in the Senate, and they use this talking filibuster. Whether it takes two days, two weeks, or two months, get it done because that's what the American people want.
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Speaker 2: So if you're listening to Andy Ogle's talk and you like the way he talks, which I do, there's a reason Rip a lab abs co founder and one of Gavin Newsom's top donors out of California who donated ten million dollars in crypto to Kamala Harris's campaign. San Francisco tycoon is working to take him out. So get behind him, send him some money. Tell your friends in Tennessee go out and vote for this man, because we need more brave voices in DC that tail it like it is and that reflect the energy of the base. Congressman Andy Ogles, we got your back.
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 2: We you know, UH still have so much tape to get too, honestly, and Uh, Blake, I feel like we haven't done enough, at least even while you were gone about highlighting how crazy things got during COVID. So I just want to play. I want an opportunity to play some of this stuff because we forget so easily. Our attention span is like fifteen seconds, but we can't forget what was done to this country. And I I you know, there's a reason people are so upset at doctor Fauci because this stuff ripped apart our lives for years, It upended the economy, it might it permanently broke certain things in our culture and our our government that I'm not sure we'll ever be put back together. And for what a bunch of masks, Yeah, I mean fake vaccinan It's.
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Speaker 5: It really is going to be that before and after time. I was joking with a friend because now we have these zoomers who are nostalgic for the Bush era early two thousands, which I'm not personally that nostalgic for. And someone said, we're even going to get it for the Obama era for early woke era, because it's going to be this is right before everything broke due to COVID used. Can you believe Walmart used to be open twenty four hours?
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Speaker 3: You did?
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Speaker 5: You know that McDonald's had had breakfast all day and COVID came in destroyed a lot of these things. COVID hero was the last time a lot of people could affordably buy a house in the US before prices went haywire, before prices on everything went haywire. We broke a ton of things because people like doctor Fauschi said we need to shut down the entire world for a month, for two months. And it turns out shutting down the entire world for two months has ramifications forever. And there's people, as you said, lives are ruined. There's businesses that shut down never recovered. There's people whose lives spiraled in. There's people who died of ods, people who fell apart in a million other ways because of a guy who had to do CIA because he was breaking the law.
00:31:40
Speaker 2: In twenty fourteen, here's a montage of MSM mainstream news media on COVIDT sixteen.
00:31:47
Speaker 5: You are the unvaccinated, You are the problem.
00:31:50
Speaker 3: It is the.
00:31:51
Speaker 16: Unvaccinated who are the problem, period, end of story.
00:31:55
Speaker 10: The only people that you can blame, the only people you can blame.
00:31:58
Speaker 4: This isn't shaming. This is a true maybe they should be shamed, the unvaccinated.
00:32:05
Speaker 2: Blaming the unvaccinated folks, not the regular folks.
00:32:08
Speaker 12: Anyone you came into contact with will blame you, as will the rest.
00:32:13
Speaker 2: Of us who have done the right thing by getting vaccinated.
00:32:16
Speaker 8: Because frankly, we know that we can't trust to be unvaccinated.
00:32:19
Speaker 14: I think it's time to get our moral house and order.
00:32:21
Speaker 17: Anderson, it's the unvaccinated who are the threat.
00:32:25
Speaker 18: Well, this vaccinated folks are going to start wearing masks to protect the unvaccinated folks.
00:32:32
Speaker 1: It's called a Christian value.
00:32:34
Speaker 15: You're basically punishing the vaccinated for the sins of the unvaccinated.
00:32:41
Speaker 2: That's not media. That's cult like behavior. The way they repeat the incantation over and over and over again, like their moral superiority shielded them from any culpability of being complete idiots. And that is that was that era. We can't forget what happened here, by the way, is a series of doctor Fauci making contradictions as well, and so These two clips are important because you see the dogmatic incantations over and over again, and yet the underlying facts were contradicted time and time again. It's top seventeen right now. People should not be walked.
00:33:27
Speaker 3: There's no reason to be walking around with a mask.
00:33:29
Speaker 14: Should you be wearing two masks or one mask? I often myself wear two masks.
00:33:36
Speaker 6: Can we make a general recommendation that doesn't have scientific basis yet?
00:33:42
Speaker 2: No, please wear a mask.
00:33:44
Speaker 14: I didn't recommend locking anything down.
00:33:47
Speaker 17: I went with doctor Burks into the president and said fifteen days are not enough.
00:33:53
Speaker 2: We need to go thirty days.
00:33:55
Speaker 6: First of all, I didn't recommend locking anything down. So if you're saying, are we out of the pandemic phase in this country?
00:34:01
Speaker 14: We are?
00:34:04
Speaker 8: Is this country ready for another pandemic?
00:34:06
Speaker 1: And are we still in the one we have not yet that we've been talking about.
00:34:11
Speaker 2: Well, we certainly are still in it.
00:34:14
Speaker 5: That mentally shattered, that completely shattered some people. I was just at a board game convention last few days. There are people who are still masking up in public areas. There there are people I suspect that when they die, they will have themselves buried wearing those masks. That you see the day still these zero COVID cultists. Yes, they're still saying we're in a pandemic. And it's because we spent a huge amount of our national institutional well being on this. That people took the expertise, the deference that we give to established authorities, people who were undeserving of that deference cashed it in to feel like they were powerful, to feel like they were important, to feel like they were better than other people, and they caused tremendou harm to our country in the process without any justification. And we're still dealing with the after effects of that to this day. And that's why so many people are fixated on Fauci. There are a lot of people who just say, let's forget twenty twenty, let's just blot it out like it was a bad memory. But it can't be, because we are still dealing with the after effects of it to this day. We have to have some kind of reckoning, some kind of final accounting of what happened there.
00:35:30
Speaker 3: And I think it's very important that when.
00:35:33
Speaker 5: The history books or when the history articles, the history tweets are written about twenty twenty, that people remember Anthony Fauci and those like him as a chief villain of it. They can't be We can't have this Saint Fauci that they tried to foist on us be the thing that's remembered in fifty years.
00:35:49
Speaker 3: And I don't think it will be.
00:35:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this is what I just I gotta go through these because you're right, his memory will forever be tarnished. But this is what they were doing back in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one.
00:36:02
Speaker 19: Eighteen do doo, du do dud, doctor.
00:36:12
Speaker 16: Fauci, give us vaccines, help all the people who have been quarantined. We'll wear our masks and we'll have to stay distant. We'll wash our hands and we'll be more resistent. Fauci, Yes, promises, please, We'll have a.
00:36:36
Speaker 3: Cure that can fight off this disease.
00:36:39
Speaker 16: Restrictions we'll lift with some ease, Doctor Fauci.
00:36:45
Speaker 14: Don't forget me.
00:36:53
Speaker 5: I had genuinely not seen that until this moment, and I'm going to have to go bleach my brain.
00:37:01
Speaker 2: When you say that it broke people. It's impossible to watch that now and not have to pinch yourself and say that that that was real. This mass dweeb singing like a love song to doctor Fauci to save him. Like that's what happened. So if you were tempted to watch today's hearing and feel any sense of sympathy for doctor Fauci, just remember what happened to this country and that that scenes like that played out all across the fruited plane. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about why Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments, maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Why Refi will provide you a custom based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America and we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much they owe. Y REFI can help. Just go to wyrefi dot com. That's the letter why then refi dot com And remember y Refi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to wyrefi dot com and tell them your friend Andrews sent you. We've got a great guest in store for you. His name is Alex Berenson. You know him, of course. He's the author of the Fatherhood Manifesto, which was something really near and dear to his heart and something a passion that Alex and Charlie shared. And he's the author of Unreported Truth Substack. He's a former New York Times journalist, and he was censored during COVID and I want to get into this. I want to make sure that we're remembering our history properly. Alex, welcome back to the show. It's great to see you. That's kind of my big question for you. We've played the clips, we've gone through some of the absurdities of the moment, but the depth and breadth of the cover up involving social media, involving the media apparatus in this country is profound, and we have to remember what happened. You were patient zero for a lot of the censorship that happened in COVID, tell us and remind us of your story of what happened.
00:39:26
Speaker 14: Sure, so you know I was fairly early and aggressive, saying, you know, lockdowns are a mistakes, school closures big mistake. Let's get back to normal. You know, there's kids who are are being stuck with masks on. It's all kind of absurd. And yes, this is virus kills some people. It kills some older people for sure, and if you're you know, morbidly obese, it might not be your best day for you when you get COVID. But but let's get back to normal. Let's get back to business. And in twenty twenty, you know, the left hated me for that. You know, I think there are people on the right supported me, and Twitter actually supported me at the time. Twitter that was sort of the last remnants of free speech Twitter, uh, and they, you know, and they were interested in supporting a public debate. And you know Fauci and the you know, all the people of the NIH, all those people did not like me. And also I was raising questions about the lab leak. I was not I was not at the forefront of the lab liink debate, but I was on the side of Hey, you know what, like this virus came out of a place where there's the largest laboratory in the world to research you know, coronaviruses. Maybe it's a little coincidental. Okay, that's twenty twenty twenty twenty one. The mRNA vaccines come out, and I was initially kind of like, hey, these look really good. The clinical trial data looks really good. And then because I had worked at the New York Times, I knew what clinical trials, you know, how pharmaceutical companies can manipulate them. I saw that there were you know, these trials had been conducted hastily, that the side effect data didn't look as good as it seemed. At first, I raised questions spring even in the spring of twenty twenty one one, I would say even people on the right were basically tired of me. A lot of people they were like, hey, let's get back to normal the shot. If we have to take it to shut up the you know people on the left, let's just do it, okay. In the summer of twenty twenty one, these vaccines started to fail in a very rapid and profound way, and we go, I'm not going to bore people with the science behind that, but it is unquestionable that that happened in the first place. They failed, as it was Israel, because Israel small country. They made a deal with Pvisor, which had the leading mRNA vaccine, and said we're going to basically give it to everyone in the country in a few weeks. We're going to see how great this works. And it worked great in the spring, and then in the summer there was this acceleration of cases and hospitalizations in Israel, and that's what led to this fight over boosters and mandates, okay, which which to this day, in my mind anyway, is in the background of our politics and has made a lot of people, you know, distrusting of public health, distrusting of the media. You know. It's certainly for a significant number of people in this country, has fueled anger about you know, the deep state, the administrative state, whatever you want to call it. And the Biden administration went all in on boosters and mandates, and Tony Fauci was very much part of that and what we've met. And then I came under pressure because I was and I don't think there's an exaggerations that I was the leading voice on Twitter raising serious questions about these vaccines. Okay, I was saying, look at this data out of Israel, look at this myocarditis. I wrote a story for my substack in June of twenty twenty one, one of the first ors I ever wrote for my substack, about a young girl, a young woman, a young African American woman in Chicago, who died of milecarditis after less than a month after getting vaccinated for COVID, and that death was related. I am absolutely certain of that, Okay.
00:42:55
Speaker 3: Alex Pressure, I just have that thought myself that I know.
00:43:00
Speaker 5: I've seen people argue, Mayo carda has happened, but it's usually not fatal, It's not that bad. And all I can think of is I myself, and I don't know an infinite number of people. I have one degree of separation from two people I know who had some sort of pre existing heart issue. They got the shot and they died within a matter of days, and both far too young to just die abruptly.
00:43:25
Speaker 3: And I guess, do you have any ballpark.
00:43:29
Speaker 5: Number how many people do you think might be out there who died in a similar manner because of this shot that was aggressively pushed and was aggressively marketed as completely safe, so that.
00:43:39
Speaker 14: It's a great question. You know, there are numbers thrown around like seventeen million and millions, and those numbers are wrong.
00:43:46
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:43:48
Speaker 14: I believe the number is in the tens of thousands. And the reason that I base it on that is that there is data from South Korea actually looked and they counted deaths, and they found something like twenty deaths in people under forty five that they thought were related to the shots. Okay, and that wasn't everybody, but that was We're going to look at sudden cardiac deaths and actually look okay, and if you multiply that South Korea is a you know, it's a big country, it's not a huge country. By the number of people who got the shots, by the number of people in the US who got the shots, and by the fact that there were older people who also died from these shots, you get into the I think the tens of thousands, okay, plus people got a lot of people had really severe short term side effects. People developed type one diabetes, they developed other autoimmune diseases. You know, these shots were very, very powerfully immunogenic. Okay. They they definitely caused a lot of aggravation in the immune system, and they caused these heart effects. And unfortunately, the younger you were, the more likely that was to happen. Okay, so so, and and by the way, if the shots had worked one hundred percent or close to one hundred percent, again it's you can say, Okay, maybe they even killed ten thousand people, but we gave a billion people these shots, and they saved all these lives. But that's not what happened. They stopped working against COVID in a matter of months. And it wasn't just that they stopped working against infection or transmission. And this is why let me, let me, let me get to this, because it's so important. So in the summer of twenty twenty one, the Biden administration's coming after me, literally after me personally. I have the documents. I filed a lawsuit. I settled with the Trump administration last month because they acknowledged what the Biden administration had done. They paid me. The lawsuit is continuing against two executives at Pfizer who were involved. But the Biden administration and Peiser came after me. They wanted me silenced, okay, and they wanted me silence. Why Because I was saying, these shots have side effects that are much worse than the government is telling you. And they don't work. They don't work, and not just against infection, they don't work against severe disease. On August twenty fifth, twenty twenty one, in his diary, Tony Faucci writes, we have evidence from Israel that the shots not just that they don't work against infection, they don't work against severe disease. He said it, Okay, they've been lying about this for the last five years. They knew it. The media never asked the you know, never pushed them on it. And that's why I found you wanted boosters because he realized it's not just oh, people are gonna get you know, get COVID, but they're gonna be fine. It's not gonna work for people. And two days later, or on August twenty seventh, maybe in the twenty eighth, I apologize. I think it's actually the twentieth Saturday, August twenty eight, twenty twenty one, was exactly five years ago. Twitter banned me permanently banned me. Was a story in the New York Post. There were stories actually in other places around the world. I think I think the Daily Mail wrote about it. People wrote about this because I was that, you know, enough of a voice that my band from Twitter was a big deal. They did it at the instigation of the Bien White House, and they did it for my saying something that Tony Fauci had admitted two days before, and that you know that, look, Tony Faucher, he's a joke, he's a buffoon, he's a bad guy, he's an ego. Man here, all those things are true. What I hope is that right now, because this diary has come out, and because he seems so ridiculous that the left really can't defend him anymore, we can talk about the serious stuff.
00:47:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully we can actually have a real conversation about it now because the left, you're right, is not defending him anymore. I mean, there's this great thing.
00:47:29
Speaker 14: Now, can't they even Yeah, even Scott Gottlieb, Scott Golley Snake. So Scott Gottlieb was an FDA commissioner, joined the board of Pfizer. True revolving door. Okay, the man's made millions from Pfizer. He always found a way to push the Pfizer vaccine and you know he he he loved Tony. He was Tony's not best friend, but a big defender of Tony. He's always on TV.
00:47:53
Speaker 4: Gottlieb.
00:47:54
Speaker 14: Guess what yesterday Joe Kernan on CNBC, you know, the Business Channel, asked him about this all right.
00:48:02
Speaker 2: I was reminded of this clip by the way, alexperience and when you were talking about all this myocarditis and what was happening. This is an RFK junior opining on heart situation that Anthony Fauci himself had ST twenty three.
00:48:18
Speaker 17: He got vaccinated a very very public press conference in January of twenty twenty, and then five months later he hadn't this the first time that we knew this from the diary. He had a pulmonary infarction, which is one of the adverse events and NIA, CDC and FDAs that are expected from the vaccine. He never told anybody. He got treated for it privately by the best doctors in America. At the same time he was telling everybody that that was not an adverse event.
00:48:52
Speaker 2: It's just another example of the public versus private contradictions that just seemed to roll out of the man's mouth like they're nothing at your reaction.
00:49:04
Speaker 14: Well, yeah, I mean so five months in a while, I don't think you could prove that that's causal. But yes, our k Junior is right, that is an that is a known adverse event. It's a you know, pulmary inforce, so you've got a little blood clot. We know that the mRNAs, you know, to the most strongest evidence for the two things they do the worst they cause. They definitely cause autoimmune conditions in some people and type one diabetes by the way, as an autoimmune condition. The hepatitis can be an autoimmune condition. You know, your body starts attacking itself. That's really bad. Fortunately it's relatively rare, but it's it's dangerous and they cause problems with the vasculture micro vass culture. You may have heard about tanitis tonitis. You know, you've got a sort of a ringing in your ears that will not go away, and that can be no joke disabling. I can literally drive people insane because you know, constant ringing in the years. That's actually a vasculature problem, and the vaccines caused that in some people. So the idea that that this infarce might have been caused by the vaccines months before that's possible, And of course he didn't want to talk about it. There's no way he was going to talk about it. In November of twenty twenty one in the diary, and there's something where he says and he by the way, he's been vaccinated, and boost at this point he says, I'm scared I got COVID. I'm afraid I got COVID by going to a party. Did he tell anybody that? No? Did he tell anybody you know what, even though I'm vaccinated, I actually am nervous about this. No, he did not, And then repeatedly in twenty twenty two, after Amicron comes along and you know, everyone gets COVID, he gets COVID. He can't go to his daughter's wedding because he has COVID. His daughter's wedding then becomes a super speeder event, and towards the end of the diary his wife gets COVID. They're all vaccinated, they're all getting COVID. It becomes almost a joke. It is a It is just evidence of how badly these vaccines fail. So the first half of it is all about what a genius he is, and how everyone in the world loves him, and Julia Roberts is talking to him and Joe and Bias. And then you know, the second half is the failure of the vaccines as seen through Tony Fauci's eyes.
00:51:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Well, and we went over on the show yesterday how he was working behind the scenes, as exposed in his own diaries, to delay the approval of the vaccine because he, you know, he didn't want it to be Trump's October surprise. Six days after the election, Pfizer got their vaccine.
00:51:28
Speaker 14: Approved one hundred percent true. The last conversation I ever had with Charlie Kirk was about this issue, because Charlie was interested. This was this was a last I think June, you know, a little over a year ago, and I'd written this story saying, look, it's very clear that the Pfizer Pfiser, with the help of the NIH and Tony Facci, changed their protocols so they weren't going to release any good news before the election. And unfortunately nobody in the media, even Fox, they were not interested. But Charlie because he was you know, he had such a you know, a big intellect and always was interested in learning about whatever. He could said, come on and let's talk about this. And and yes, Pfizer delayed, and Tony Fatci helped them do it. There's no question about that.
00:52:15
Speaker 5: So we've talked about the vaccine all of its side effects. Looking towards the future, we know they're still making mRNA shots. I imagine that is something that draws your interest. So I guess I want to know that those autoimmune issues, the myocarditis, other stuff, are we seeing signs? Do those effects also occur with other attempts at making shots in this category? Are they getting better at it? They're still pitching it as the future of health. So should we be worried about this? Should we be skeptical? Or is it getting better?
00:52:46
Speaker 14: No, it is not getting better. It seems to be inherent to the technology, whether it's whether it's the fact that mRNA is so immunogenic to activate your immune system so aggressfully, or whether it's what's called the LNP, which is which is a bubble around which the actual mRNA itself is held. It's almost like detergent. So you're injecting a tiny bubble of detergent into your arm, and that seems to have problems too. The good news is that these have been absolutely rejected commercially. At this point, nobody wants mRNA. Nobody's getting COVID vaccines, certainly nobody under fifties getting covid vaccines. The effort to get people to take an mRNA vaccine for RSB, which is a respiratory virus, or for the flu, those have absolutely gone nowhere. And Maderna stock went down at one point was down ninety five percent from it's high in twenty twenty one. It's gone up a little bit because there's some evidence that mRNA might be helpful for a cancer in conjunction with other cancer drugs. mRNA might help prime your body to fight certain kinds of cancer, and obviously that would be great if it's true. It doesn't mean mRNA can care cancer, nothing like that, but even a small incremental gain would be good. And so Maderna stock has gone up a little bit. But in terms of vaccine's given a healthy people. In the way we think about a vaccine prophylactically, I would say these are basically dead.
00:54:12
Speaker 2: What about with livestock?
00:54:14
Speaker 14: Why that's it? You know, people always ask me about that, and I will confess I have not looked at it, and I actually don't like commenting on stuff when I haven't looked.
00:54:22
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00:58:14
Speaker 8: She's wrong again again, She's wrong. I don't know how to claim that she's she's wrong. She's wrong saying that, you know, I forget what she said, basically a blown his shoulder out shooting it or we's just seen the gunshot go off. She's wrong personally, in my opinion, stating that this is, you know, the the lower quality video, and that the rumors going around of it being a high quality video. Therefore everybody is lying. There's very clear science that the video is compressed or it was a screen recording, or a combination of both before it ended up getting sent to her. The What did you call it a lateral crawl? There's no such thing as far as I know. Look, you know, going through uh basic military training in the infantry, lateral crawls and that thing low crawl, high crawl, three to five second rush. That's what todd when I came in two thousand and three. What's still being taught to this day. To the best of my knowledge, when I went through Ranger school, lateral crawl wasn't a thing. I don't remember being taught lateral crawl. None of my buddies happened to remember either. When I was going through Special Forces training in Selection, none of that was taught there either, No lateral crawl. When I was going through Seer school level C no lateral crawl, I remember being taught in that case. And I could keep going through a multitude of different courses I've actually gone through and no lateral crawl. Going through the NYPER course, no lateral crawl. It's just not a thing. Also, falling ten feet doesn't take specialized military train It just doesn't.
00:59:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and there's a lot to go over here, but you know, if we're led to believe that she's been sitting on this clip since October, my first question was, well, this obviously shows somebody on a rooftop and it's you know, getting in the prone position, and yet we've been so does this debunk her own exploding mic theories? Like, I'm not sure what just proves other than you know, I again, is there there there?
01:00:05
Speaker 8: I don't But besides the laws of physics and introducing the fourth dimension that we talked about with the exploding mic that you know, all of those other things that she's wrong about on that she said it looked to her like he's unfolding a rifle. I mean, okay, so, Candice, which is it? Did he did he have a rifle? Did he not? Because now you're saying he has a rifle on the roof and he's in direct line of fire to where it would have impacted Charlie in the exact location of which has shown the exploding mic. I mean, we've talked about this. I don't even know if I went over this last time or not, but even half a gram of petent at the size that it is would would explode into about four hundred cubic inches, right, it would detonate into a gas stake instant change from solid to a gas to about four hundred cubic inches, that that microphone would be obliterated. There'd be a whole new shirt. There would be clear signs of this on his chest. He'd have plastic and glass embedded in the side of his face, not just a singular hole. That's not how shaped charges work. Newton laws of physics apply there as well. So we've got all of these things that go into it now, but mostly that she's now claiming that it's a rifle that he's unfolding on top.
01:01:06
Speaker 1: Of the roof.
01:01:07
Speaker 2: Well, and so just a quick note on that. I did check with people inside the courtroom that day, and they're saying that this clip that was shown and we're about to show it in just a sec doesn't include the I believe a different angle is what I'm led to believe. At least again, I didn't see it, but there is a portion where you can see him kind of roll over the railing assemble the weapon. It's a little obscured by the railing, but that's what was apparently happening.
01:01:36
Speaker 5: I was asking about that, Andrew, and so yeah, that they have basically two angles.
01:01:41
Speaker 3: Guy goes over railing and you see him doing something.
01:01:43
Speaker 5: As you said, it's obscured by the railing, but you can see he's taking some kind of action which we can deduce is likely pulling the rifle out of his pant leg, making it ready to go. And then there's like a brief blind spot after that, and then it's the video. We see the guy running across the roof, taking a prone position and at the exact moment where we know the shooting occurred. Second later, gets up, runs away, and people they inject all this doubt into this because I think we they're motivated by an ideological agenda or some sort of agenda. But we're able to assess the evidence and put together what happened here well.
01:02:23
Speaker 2: And that's another good important point, Blake, is that the timestamp is not included in this version. So let's go ahead and play the B role. It's about a minute and seventeen seconds long. We'll play it up one seventy five. So here's this figure running across the rooftop, which we obviously the state is saying, is Tyler Robinson And here's that the staying low.
01:02:46
Speaker 8: Keep posit for a secon right there, brother can talk about that.
01:02:49
Speaker 4: Yep.
01:02:49
Speaker 8: Yeah, so let's talk about that for a second. So first of all, just being on a rooftop in general the absolute worst position to try to assassinate somebody from, because you end up silhouetting your and even clearly this guy in the video is well aware of that. As it goes up. It's one of the most stupid places. You know, going through sniper school. You end up calling it cancer. You look like tree cancer or something like that, because what ends up happening is you break that natural outline of the top of that building, and so it becomes very very obvious, and that combined with movement. Every human being on the planet is familiar with this. Anybody that plays paintball, that plays airsoft says, not advanced military training, this is just common sense. As you start to get towards the edge of that, you have to get lower. Clearly he's worried about it. That is the reason you see him getting down. He doesn't want to silhouete himself up against the horizon. You get caught doing it, and that is one of her main claims I think is very pertinent. If you go to any paintball range in America, you'll see ten year olds doing that. I'm just thrown that out there. Sorry.
01:03:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that you mentioned, I think before on your on social media that you were saying Lee Harvey Oswald was KGB trained and correct he assassinated JFK from you know, inside a window in a building, because you don't do this type of thing if you are trained from a rooftop. That was your point you made. I think it's important, Okay, So keep playing the footage here. So there he is kind of in a lower crouch position going towards the building line of sight, where you can only assume he's crawling. And essentially this is what we see up until the point that assuming again the footage does not include the time stamp, but we know from the footage that was showed in court not to the media, that the time stamp lines up approximately with when Charlie was not approximately exactly when Charlie was shot, which was twelve twenty three, twenty eight on September tenth Mountain time. So here he is laying there, and I also want to there's a bunch of people that says you can't see his face, you can't see the shot or whatever. But to your other point, it looks like a screen recording a compress video. There is a color distortion that you've pointed out on your social media that and there he gets. So the shot happens, he gets up, runs back, and then I think it just started looping. So let's let's take that down.
01:05:16
Speaker 5: So Andrew, I just want to as you're saying, even if you can't see his face there, Well, we watched the preliminary hearing. We have footage of a person whoever you can see them far more up close. You can see the person limping with something likely down their pants leg and we see the person and we see a car arriving that mashes Tyler Robinson's vehicle. It's the fact that we can trace this person who's walking around the campus. They're walking towards the Loez building right before this person who goes over the railing, who does all of this. It's every time we get one of these gotscha videos that's dropped, it's treated like it's literally the only piece of evidence in the entire case.
01:05:56
Speaker 3: When we know the reality is that the exact opposite.
01:05:58
Speaker 5: That we have DNA evidence, that we have text message evidence, that we have surveillance evidence, that we have physical evidence obtained from the scene, and then all of this is what's coming together to build the case confession evidence.
01:06:10
Speaker 8: So keeping and keep in mind right that that evidence that you just mentioned of him walking around shows him wearing a backpack, right, and then you see him take what Candice said was an unfolding rifle and you know, throwing it down. Uh, I guarantee you, because after he ends up throwing it down, you see him moving into position on that bag. I guarantee you. He was shooting off his backpack to study his rifle, shooting off of his backpack, and that's what he ended up throwing down and going over there. If anything, this video substantiates the other ones and the fact that it's a lower quality, compressed video, and that's the best argument they got. They're failing. Miserably, absolutely miserably.
01:06:45
Speaker 10: It doests.
01:06:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, and to throw this image up this is uh, if we have it, you know a lot of people yeah, one seventy nine. So there there's you know, all this talk about how you have to be this like trained assassin to this, I mean, Tyler Robinson grew up in a hunting and shooting family. This is for a lot of people in America. This is a common way to grow up. This is how I grew up shooting and hunting and target practicing, Like there's basic training that you can pick up just by being in a family looks like this. Anyways, this point that Blake makes is really strong. So they're showing this standalone picture or the video, whether from the rooftop the low c center right where everything that we've been told in court is what you see sort of happen there, except that they don't have the footage of him assembling the rifle, which was a different angle. Blake made that point, and we're told that it's not Tyler Robinson. Okay, that's their big claim that this proves it's not Tyler Robinson, which like doesn't make any sense to me because throw b roll one eighty up and Blake is saying a very important point that I don't know why they're not alleging or not acknowledging. Rather, this is the footage of him before he goes up to the roof, and we're seeing him very clearly. This is him walking with the lamp, going around the corner of this parking structure and come, yeah, he's emerging from the top and there he is, right there. And this is the very footage where they're actually able to trace his location from point to point to point based on time stamps, based on a visual identification of him going up the stairs making his way to the rooftop. So this, this video on the rooftop doesn't exist in a vacuum. It's connected to all these different pieces of footage where they can trace him moving into position. Right. And here's the other thing, so, uh, let me know when this is loaded. Okay, this is new twenty five. Give me one second on this. As soon as they have it loaded.
01:08:47
Speaker 8: Substantial his body movement also substantiates having the rifle in that leg as well, going down the stairs versus going up. Going down, your leg can be straight and then you can bend it a little bit as you go down, versus going up. You got to keep it straight because you can't bend it and lift it at the same time. I mean, those things are again.
01:09:02
Speaker 2: But the rooftop footage does not exist in a vacuum. It's the next piece of this footage where they're they're able to track him the whole way, and here's here's uh Tyler Robinson's lever identifying him on camera twenty five. It definitely, especially the bottom the last two definitely do look like him.
01:09:28
Speaker 4: Oh, they do look like Tyler Robinson.
01:09:31
Speaker 2: Okay, why that's important, Matt is because that's the same outfit he's wearing when he's got the weapon down his pants and he's going down in the b roll we just showed you, and then he goes up on the rooftop, so he literally so Lancewick says, that literally looks like Tyler Robinson from the surveillance footage. And then as the time stamps will indicate, we track his locations all the way up to the rooftop where we then see this footage that's released. And somehow on I supposed to be told that that's proof that this isn't Tyler Robinson when we can trace him the whole way, Lance Twigg says, that's him. I genuinely don't know what I'm missing here.
01:10:11
Speaker 8: You're not missing anything. I think what you're missing is the fact that likely if somebody ends up getting convicted of this murder, that somebody is likely going to get sued and lose all of their property, and so now likely they have to go out. And this is just my assumption here that that just maybe, just maybe, if they're able to distort the truth to an extent that they completely pollute the jury pool completely, you know, throw everything off. They do their best to instill reasonable doubt that maybe they'll get lucky and be able to have but been to sleep and at the end of the night when all of this is said and done, because none of the like, every argument that they have defies common sense and logic, every single one. And what's funny is, you know they try to say, no, we're on the side of common sense and we're just asking questions. No, you're not. If you're asking questions, you'd be fully transparent. This is you know, in a court of law, you have a chain of custody for those videos that are shown, and that chain of custody shows where it came from and where it went. This is not what Candice Owens is doing. She's saying, one of my sources was able to, you know, produce this video for me. Okay, well, your video is extremely distorted it is cutting off the majority of what was shown on screen. It's zoomed in, which means you edited it just to throw it on there. So and we have clear signs of compression and or recording it off of another screen. All of these things are wrong. And then she makes suggestions she's doing like a neuro linguistic programming, if you will, trying to convince people that what she's saying is the actual truth. When you take words and you use them like fedslop and things like that. There's an entire program in the United States Military called psychological operations. Do you know what I'm talking about? There, psychological operations, And it exists for a reason. It's it's you have you have the the physical battle space, and then and then you have the human terrain, right and that human terrain is the one that they're trying to win here by by warping people's minds so that maybe they can come out on top, maybe just maybe, and maybe if they don't win the court case, but they end up getting suit at the end of the day, maybe they've polluted that jury pool, you know, and they're because they're gonna lose, you know, at the end of the day with everything that goes out, and I hope they do.
01:12:10
Speaker 2: I have a couple other questions for you here. So Kyle Sarafin, I guess at former FBI guy. I've never met him, but I've seen him on social media. He has this post here if you guys can throw it up eight point eight one, you replied to it. He said, he said, only a trained sniper recon assassin can jump onto grass from twelve to fourteen feet. We must discover who trained this man and who he is, you replied back. He said, anyone else absent from sniper school the day they taught you to fall from twelve feet? I guess I was at sick call. This to me is another thing that doesn't make any sense to me. I've jumped off of twelve I mean, you know, growing up, I definitely have jumped off heights that tall, not maybe holding a rifle in my hand, certainly. Another point that doesn't.
01:12:55
Speaker 8: Gravity takes care of the work.
01:12:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, gravity takes care of the one you don't need any skill to jump off of.
01:13:00
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:13:01
Speaker 8: I think, and I think he could be trolling here in this post making a joke about it. I really don't care because I've seen Kyle push disinformation. No, no, I'll call him out anyways. No, I'll call him out anyways. I've seen Kyle push disinformation, a lot, a lot of disinformation, and it's actually really troubling. So yeah, it's easily believable in this case that Kyle Seraphin is pushing out disinformation claiming he ended up getting kicked out of the FBI because he refused to take the COVID vaccine. And then we've got plenty of public records that state that the reason he ended up getting kicked out is because he was on a gun range one day and he ended up shooting while his instructor was downrage and he thought it was a joke, right, Like, this guy's an idiot, right, And so even if that's the case, and he's trolling, he's making a joke, I'm still looking at it as the guy's a disinformation propagandist and he's get shot down.
01:13:44
Speaker 2: Anyways, all right, we're gonna play a little Graham Allen footage because he was there in the courtroom when this footage was shown originally in the courtroom No. Twenty four.
01:13:55
Speaker 18: The footage shows a person on the roof performing as she calls it a deliberate lateral quote military style crawl in a prone shooting position. I would I would say it looks like anybody trying not to be seen on a roof crawling around, But again that's my opinion. On the same episode yesterday, Candas stated that the clear footage came from the source she called quote good people in the government, and that her team had been holding it slash sitting on that material since October of twenty twenty five. If she is to be believed, means she possessed stronger visual evidence of a rooftop, even if she calls it an actor or a trained military person. For the majority of the period, she was publicly promoting theories that downplayed or denied that it even existed in the first place.
01:14:46
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I missed the day for the lateral crawl in sniper school, ranger school, Special Forces training when operator course, I mean I could keep going, just doesn't exist. It's stupid. It's not a thing, all right.
01:14:57
Speaker 2: I just want to say Blake made the point. He pretty he's pretty sure Sarafin was was trolling based on some other tweets. He's He's made Matt. We do, however, have some exclusive footage of this extremely advanced lateral crawl one there. It is the training. They start them young, They start them young, Matt, Lord Lord, I just I had to get that in.
01:15:28
Speaker 4: No.
01:15:29
Speaker 2: Here, here's my thing. If this is the footage, which it seems to be the footage, I'm not sure you know, saying it's not, it does appear to be compressed. It does, which would indicate there is a higher res version. By the way, you know, they the state, you know, described it as enhanced footage that they were showing to the courtroom. Again not to the media, but to the courtroom, which so the fact that this version as compression indicates there's a higher quality version available. There's this final point that I wanted to get to was and you had been looking at this flash that was described in it. I'm not again, once again, I'm not sure what the significance is. But there was a flash that's visible in this footage on the rooftop and you were trying to ascertain what it is. So what was the flash in your estimation?
01:16:18
Speaker 8: Yeah, in my opinion, it's a vehicle that could be seen driving through the background. I mean, you go trace it from the right side of the screen as you're viewing it, as it approaches, as it kind of like travels to these little trees and then pops and goes.
01:16:29
Speaker 2: It catches the reflection of the sun.
01:16:31
Speaker 8: Basically likely something it's hard to tell because she's using a highly compressed, really low quality video. But you know, maybe if she actually provided the original content and a chain of custody, we would actually know what we're looking at, but that would be very difficult to tell the truth for her.
01:16:46
Speaker 2: Another question, should we be able to see a flash from the muzzle at the time of the shot?
01:16:50
Speaker 8: Absolutely not, not on that low quality of a video, Not in the middle of the daylight. I'm trying to think about the amount of times I've been shot at and the only time I've seen daylight muzzle flaw in the open sun, and the closest thing that I can can can actually see in my mind to seeing a daylight muzzle flash was off of a Dishka in broad daylight. This thing is essentially, you know, the equivalent of a fifty caliber machine gun, right and only then could I see it. And it has a very aggressive muzzle break on it, and that directs that out, so you could kind of see that in the daytime, but not even every time you know that they're shooting at you this rifle. Absolutely not no, nor would you actually see the body jump. He weighs I don't even know how much. But let's just assume he's like about the size of this a tiny female which he looks like one hundred and fifteen hundred and twenty pounds, laying all straight in line directly behind that rifle. That little bit of kick that that rifle has isn't going to cause a massive jump in his body to the point where everybody's going to end up seeing it on that low quality video. You might notice on very high quality video his body maybe you know, maybe just a tiny little bit, but highly unlikely in that situation. And you know, he is so zeroed in and he's never done anything like this before, he's not trained in this, he's got no idea of literally what he's actually doing, and you tend to get tunnel vision, and those are the times to where you know, the flinch response and everything else just kind of doesn't exist. You're you're just kind of in a zone as you're doing that.
01:18:19
Speaker 2: Well, I will say, you know, I spoke with Jack Pasovich. You know, he was again in the courtroom. Much has been made of their description of what they saw. But Jack's adamant that in the enhanced video that you can see in the courtroom that he saw a flinch some sort of movement at the time of the shot. So, you know, maybe he's got one. He got one chance to look at it. It's not like he could run it back and replay, you know, rewind fast forward, rewind fast forward. But that was that was his impression, and I have no reason to believe that that's you know, not true. So I to sum it all up, We've got a video that we know was shown in court, or some version of it that was shown in court. We've got a guy in a room top crawling into a prone position taking the shot. The or at least presumably we are not getting the video that from just moments before, from a different angle of him crawling over the railing assembling the rifle. Got The time stamp was not included, but we know the timestamp in the courtroom lined up exactly when Charlie was shot twelve twenty three, twenty eight got him running off the building, jumping off. I don't know what's new here or what it proves, especially since the surveillance footage from just moments before him making his way up to the rooftop is footage that Lance Twiggs himself identified as Tyler Robinson wearing the same outfit that he would ultimately take the shot. I'm at a loss for why this was a big bombshell. Nevertheless, thank you for helping us unpacket, Matt. Yeah, final thoughts if you choose.
01:19:56
Speaker 8: I don't know what they're expecting, you know, like, if I have a feeling that at this point, even if Tyler Robinson wore a GoPro the entire time and how to scope Kim and film the entire thing and put it out, that they would still deny it and say it's fed slop and that it's a Masad narrative or find somebody new to blame on this. You are never going to get a street answer out of them. They are financially invested in keeping this narrative running. They're saying that they're searching for the truth, but they're not because it's busy biting them in the butt while they're busy ignoring it.
01:20:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, and yeah, exactly. The point is well made, though. The burden of proof that they seem to be invest so invested in is so extraordinarily high. It's so much higher for the actual evidence that was presented in court than any of their alternative theories that they presented to their audiences. They have zero, zero burden of proof apparently on their side of the ledger. But with what the state has, which is very it's an avalanche of an a mosaic of pieces of evidence, including DNA, including surveillance video, including cell phone video, including multiple confessions. It's it's the burden of proof is so high when you just you try and look at common sense evidence. I don't know, I'm trying to figure out. I'm trying. I'm genuinely I spent this morning, Matt, genuinely trying to just like give a generous thought towards what was presented and what they were claiming it proved. And I just I couldn't, you know, wrap my brain around it, Like they're gonna claim that guy didn't actually take a shot, it wasn't actually Tyler Robinson, that was some patsy, and that the shot came from somewhere. I don't know. I'm trying. I'm trying to figure out what the alternative theory here is, but I can't. I can't get there. So anyways, Matt Tardio, thank you for joining us. Thanks for spending a little extra time past the live show and on the stream. We appreciate it as always. Thank you.
01:21:50
Speaker 8: Hey, Goot a question for you though, Yeah, do you think it's odd that Candice Owen's magically got this video after she just returned from Russia and now she has it after she made appearance on art and visited a Russian state sponsor event. Do you find that a bit awkward?
01:22:04
Speaker 2: I hadn't thought about that yet, Matt, isn't it is? It is noteworthy? It is noteworthy.
01:22:11
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's weird. It's really weird. Her family fishing trip turned into uh, you know, pushing false narratives about the Ukraine War on Russia television, and you know, visiting a Russian state sponsored event via a nonprofit organization that's heavily funded by the government.
01:22:28
Speaker 4: And yet she was going.
01:22:29
Speaker 8: On a family fishing trip and now all of a sudden she's got this magical video that that appears really really crappy in quality, I wonder where she got it from. I just I'm just very curious. You know, if she could provide a change of custody, that would be great because I'm very curious if Russia's senate to her.
01:22:41
Speaker 2: Well, she claims she's had it since October, so.
01:22:44
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's great.
01:22:45
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:22:45
Speaker 8: She also claims a microphone exploded. What else do we have here? Something about some planes Chuka? Uh yeah, fort with Chuka. I mean, I don't know, but what I do know is that's pretty that's pretty suspect.
01:22:58
Speaker 2: That's an interesting thought I haven't had yet. Matt. I appreciate and I know I know enough to know why you think that's worth mentioning. So God bless you man. Great to see you. Thank you again for being brave and speaking the truth. Let me get let me get a shout out for your your show here real quick here Speak the Truth podcast host Matt Tartio, former Army Ranger sniper, an explosive expert. Thank you, Matt Tardio. We'll see you guys tomorrow. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com

