How did Charlie go from someone who spoke only at schools to someone who visited churches all over America? In his 2023 visit to the Seattle Revival Center, Charlie tells his story of how Covid tyranny supercharged his Christian faith and convinced him that faith and politics can't be treated separately. Is politics divisive? Sure...but so is the Christian gospel. And if the most important thing in life is preaching the Gospel, he says, the second most important thing is making the first possible.
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Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.
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Speaker 2: If the most important.
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Speaker 1: Thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA college chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. Here I am. Lord, use me.
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Speaker 2: Buckle up, everybody.
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Speaker 3: I know, right?
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the 9 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, everybody. Wow, what a welcome. Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Charlie stinking Kurt.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's go.
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Speaker 2: This is gonna be fun.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, I love this part of the world, and it's great to be in a church here. Now, is it Sodom or Nineveh? We'll figure that out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, come on, come on.
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Speaker 1: Honor to be here, and I hope we can encourage you and speak the truth, and lots to go over.
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Speaker 2: Dude, all right. We're gonna do today what.
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Speaker 2: What we shouldn't be doing, okay? Because we're in a church, okay?
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Speaker 4: And I realize that God is, like, that you and I actually have a lot in common in that we have both been called to some very dark places. So you've been called to a very dark place, which is politics, and I've been called.
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Speaker 2: To a very dark place, which is the church. So we're different, right? And yet kind of the same. That's understandable.
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Speaker 4: And these realms aren't supposed to mix, right? Like, so how dare us? How dare we do this? How dare we.
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Speaker 2: Come to a church service to talk about government?
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah. So first, you sound like Greta Thunberg. How dare you?
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Speaker 2: How dare you?
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Speaker 1: Look, first of all.
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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to shame us, but, you know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so first of all, I'm a Bible-believing Christian. It's the most important thing in my life. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. So everything I do comes from my love of the Lord, love of his word, love of his eternal truths. So I once believed what most pastors believed, which is you do not mix politics and the church. You keep them separate. From the time I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, from that point forward, I was very careful to ever mix the two together. Started Turning Point USA when I was 18 years old. And now, 11 years later, it's this incredible force on college and high school campuses. We have our church outreach program. It really is a beautiful thing. Now, what changed for me, and I know it's a similar story, was when all of a sudden we decided to lock down our country and say the church was non-essential. And That's a political thing, by the way. So number one, one of the lies that is told is that, well, we're going to keep politics separate or the church separate from government, separation of church and state. Well, then why don't they keep the state out of the church? I thought they're supposed to be separate. Why can the local county health commissioner come in and demand email lists and sensitive records of membership? Why could they come in and say you can't congregate for Easter and or for Pentecost, I thought that it was separation of church and state. No, they've never actually believed that. What they're trying to say is that the church should not get involved in the state. That's not a biblical view. So either you believe that God's truths are applicable to all parts of your life, or they're not. So you have to make a decision. So I believe the Bible teaches us in real time how we should act, how we should marry, how we should raise our kids, how we should form government, how we should vote. So the scriptures teach us about all of these things. And so another commonplace lie that some people will say is, well, the Bible doesn't talk about political matters. Well, that would be true if you don't talk about Joseph, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, Esther, Daniel, Zerubbabel, any of the.
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Speaker 2: And you're referring to people that are actually in the Bible.
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Speaker 1: Actually in the Bible.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just catching you up, okay?
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Speaker 1: Or the entire book of Deuteronomy. The entire book of Deuteronomy is a political book. It's Moses' farewell address where he doesn't get to go into the promised land. He is telling the people that he led in the next generation that is going to fulfill God's promise, right? A 14-day journey took them 40 years after complaining and challenging and questioning God. And Moses gives this triumphant farewell address telling you, here's how you should set up the government. Here's how you should separate powers. You should have consent to the governed. You should have an independent judiciary. And guess what? We get that in Deuteronomy 6. We get love the Lord your God with all your soul, strength, and mind. What Jesus said is one of the laws of which all the laws of the prophets hang upon. So it's not political. It's biblical. And what I find is far too often people are afraid to engage in it because they say, well, politics is divisive. Well, so is the gospel, honestly. I came to bring a sword. We're either here to talk about truth or we're here to pander to the middle. And so what I find is that the church has been lied to. I think it's an unclean spirit from the pit of hell to get us into a place of passivity, in timidity, not of strength or courage, as it says in Joshua 1.9. So the Joshua generation was the one that heard Moses' farewell address and entered into Canaan, the land, the promised land, as it was given. And what's one of the first things it says in Joshua 1.9? Be strong... and courageous the church is not strong and courageous today but i could get even more fundamental if we want to today which is politics is simply just the business of the city should we have a government should it respect human life what is a human life every single one of those things and not even mentioned in exodus or leviticus or deuteronomy which it is the first 11 books of genesis answers all these questions better sheet which is in the beginning it's the first words of the hebrew bible in the beginning god created the heavens and the earth That means there is a God and you are not him. That's a big deal. Genesis 1.26 and 1.27. Let us make man in our image. It's a big deal. That means that you're not an accident of millions of years of Darwinian evolution. That means you're created with intentionality, with a soul. That means that all life should be protected. Pre-born and born life should be protected. goes on to say, okay, are human beings basically good or evil? We learn very quickly human beings are not basically good. Look at the story of Cain and Abel. Envy, jealousy, to murder. And so we get on to all, the first 11 books of Genesis is a whole ballgame. Our entire civilization can be explained from even Genesis 11, right before God calls Abram, because he's a bum sitting on his dad's couch. Hey, get up and go. By the way, a lot of young men need the call of Abram in America today, right? Which is very simple.
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Speaker 2: Or their mom's couch.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, or their mom's couch. Genesis 11, what happens when groups of people try to create a city, a town, or a government for their own sake and consolidate governmental control in centralized authoritarian fashion? That's the story of Genesis 11 called the Tower of Babel or the City of Babel. These are political questions. And if you're new to this church and your pastor's not challenging you you're not diving deep into the scriptures. Now, that's not the only thing the scriptures have to offer. But to say that the Bible doesn't speak to these things at all, or you say, I only do the gospel. I do the gospel too. It means the good news. There's good news for all parts of life. And it's time we start proclaiming it.
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Speaker 2: Come on. But Charlie....
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Speaker 4: In the Beresheet of our nation, in the beginning, in the genesis of our nation, wasn't the church completely separated from politics?
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Speaker 2: I mean, pastors stayed completely out of government, right?
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Speaker 4: Like what happened in Sunday morning services had no influence on the Revolutionary War, right?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. If you go to kind of your typical woke, Church, they'll tell you that, when in reality, 55 out of 56 of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were Bible-believing church-attending Christians. The American founding, which by the way, to this day, is the greatest political accomplishment post what we see in Exodus. I truly believe that what is formed in Exodus and the American founding are two of the greatest political breakthroughs in human history. Nothing comes even close. Because of the firm... Teachings of Jonathan Edwards, Jonathan Mayhew, and George Whitfield. Jonathan Edwards went around and started a revival. This is the Seattle Revival Center, at least for now, before you guys are called Eden, which I love the name, by the way. It's great. which is Jonathan Edwards gave a very famous series of sermons saying sinners in the hands of an angry God which is that if you do not repent it says in first chronicles a nation that does not repent first and foremost and I don't know the I don't remember the exact scripture but it basically says you will be condemned and it's not it's not going to go well for you I'm paraphrasing the essence of what it says in first chronicles so basically the what we talk about Basically, sometimes is the American founding. What we don't talk about is the decades of sermons, of pastoral ministry that led to this incredible celebration of 1776. And America was a drunk nation. America was a lost nation. America was an amoral nation in the 1750s and 1760s. But a revival came to America. And that revival triggered a new generation. You know who was in the crowds listening? A young Benjamin Franklin. A young Thomas Jefferson, a young James Madison, a young John Adams, where they were literally 12 or 13 years old. Ben Franklin, who gets labeled as a deist, and that's probably true, but we don't know if he gave his life to the Lord at the end of his life. But Ben Franklin was such a wise man, he went to over two dozen of George Whitefield speeches. He became a friend of his, and he was so moved by what this man was saying. He said, my goodness, that there is another way. And so all of a sudden when you start to drink from the streams of liberty, you want to find its source. So a generation was born, the generation that we now revere of Jefferson, Washington, Hamilton, you know, Gubiner Morris, some of the lesser known founders. And then they said, wait a second, if we're going to believe that God is king and Jesus is king, why are we listening to the tyrannical edicts of King George? That question is only asked if you study the scriptures and you give your life to Jesus. It says in John 10, 10, I've come to give life and life more abundantly where the enemy is here to steal, plot and deceive and destroy. It's a beautiful contrast that shows the spiritual battle here. And so the founding fathers, Thomas Jefferson in particular, wrote in the Declaration of Independence, one of the core human events that becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands that have tied them to another. That is an anthem of eternal truths. that you, a human being, have a right to self-government. You have a right to liberty. And King George didn't give you that right. You didn't give that right just because you came up with the idea yourself. But it says what? The laws of nature and nature's God. God is mentioned four times in the Declaration of Independence. At the end, you could read it as a prayer, where it's almost an appeal to the supreme judge of the world. Now, if you know your scriptures, who's the supreme judge of the world? Jesus is the supreme judge of the world. The founding fathers put in their letter to King George... a direct appeal to Christ our Lord, and yet I have to be lectured that the founding fathers were secular? Separation of church and state appears zero times in our founding documents. It does not exist. What does appear is the Establishment Clause, which is that Congress shall make no law. It gets misinterpreted by secular left-wing revisionist judges by saying, well, that means that government cannot get involved at all in making truth claims. That's garbage, garbage, and that's rubbish. Instead... The better way of looking at it is, wait a second, Congress cannot say that we have the Presbyterian Church, the Episcopal Church, but they never envisioned a time where we'd have secular godless leaders reigning terror over our country. Instead, it was Adams who said the Constitution was written solely for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other type of people. If we stop being moral and religious, the Constitution stops being the law of the land.
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Speaker 2: Come on, let's go. All right.
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Speaker 4: So what was happening in churches really prepared our nation for transformation.
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Speaker 2: And that's a huge part of.
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Speaker 4: The mandate that you've received from the Lord through Turning Point USA Faith to catalyze courage in congregations in this country that they would fear no evil and begin to create a theology around reformation within our nation.
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Speaker 2: And if you could say anything to people.
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Speaker 4: Watching online today today that might be heard by pastors or congregations to really catalyze courage especially going into this next year is going to get a little tricky right and so there's gonna be people that want to bunker down and kind of hide in their cave and have their candles ready And then there's going to be others that want to get out of their caves to be the light.
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Speaker 2: Would you be willing just.
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Speaker 4: To bring a charge to the American church this morning to prepare us for what God wants to do in this nation?
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Speaker 1: So I want to be clear. I'm not a pastor. I'm not a theologian. I am a Christian who loves the word and studies it every single day and takes it very seriously, not as beautiful literature, not as something that is nice, but as the word of God. And so my day job is to try to save Western civilization against parasites that want to destroy our home. That's my day job. So, and high school campuses, college campuses, I never thought I'd be in the church world. Three years ago, literally three years ago to this day, I'd never spoken to church, not once. And now I've done hundreds, right? You might say, well, Charlie, what changed? Two things. The lockdowns and then the summer of 2020 when the church started parroting a lie that America is systemically racist, white privilege. I said, time out. You guys have no idea what you're talking about. Like, I will not question your sermons on the rapture, but I will question when you start to talk about Marxism, which I happen to be one of the subject matter experts on Marxism because I've been fighting it for a decade. I've read their books. I've debated their top clerics of the high religion of Marxism. You know, me and maybe 10 other people know it as well as, and yet I'm being taught by pastors. None of you don't understand. I saw a three-minute Instagram video, and I'm totally now clued in that, There's white privilege and we have to now do struggle sessions. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This is a demonic force that's trying to take over the church. And I was not going to put up with it. I wasn't. And so we started TPUSA Faith. And really on those two core things, we don't have a denominational bent. Again, we believe in the inerrancy of scripture. Jesus is king. The Nicene Creed. I speak at all sorts of different types of churches. We were talking about this. From swinging from the chandelier Pentecostals to five-point Calvinist Baptists to somewhere in between.
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Speaker 2: And you laugh.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, I mean, I've seen.
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Speaker 2: But we have chandeliers.
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Speaker 1: No, and I.
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Speaker 2: And we do swing from them.
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Speaker 1: When I found out I was going to a Pentecostal church, you know what I ask? I say, snakes or no snakes, flags or no flags.
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Speaker 2: Any given Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Are they going to try the resurrection thing? And I'm like, just let me know. It's fine. Because if so, I just want to know what I'm getting into.
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Speaker 2: Hey, we don't try nothing.
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Speaker 1: Oh, there you go. See, that's right. I'm not even judging. I just want to know what I'm getting into, right? And, I mean, again, I spoke at five-point Calvinist Baptist churches where they've never laughed in the history of the church for 100 years. 100 years. Record. You know how, like, sometimes you go into those manufacturing facilities? It has been 92 days since an accident.
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Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
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Speaker 1: I went into this Baptist church once, and it said it has been 103 years since someone has smiled or laughed in the house of God.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, so I got into this to strengthen the church, to wake up the church. I'll be very honest. I want to work myself into retirement in the church space. Not because I don't love you guys, but I want to be a temporary, like, electroshock to the church where the church wakes up and I can go back to the college campus thing because there's nothing special with what I'm doing. I'm simply just trying to remind you of how great the country is, how asleep the church is, and how easy it is to fix. You might say, well, Charlie, how do we fix it? So simple. you decide to be courageous and to proclaim the truth. It is an attitude and a mindset shift. It's that simple. I know that sounds like overly complex, but it's not like where I have to go, well, we have to build all the buildings. We have more buildings than we know what to do with. We've got to hire all these pastors. We have more pastors than we know what to do with. We have to have all this AV. We have the nicest screens. We have everything. All the infrastructure is there for a truth revival. What's missing is a mind shift and an attitude. And that's where I see my place, right? It's because I'm not a pastor. I don't have to play nice by, you know, oh, well, you know, and be like this kind of weird bro-y pastor culture. I'm not interested in any of that, okay? I'm interested in waking you, the congregation, up. By the way, you have a great pastor here who's doing a great job and who is.
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Speaker 1: And encouraging the good ones. That's my calling in this. That's awesome. Right now, that's the season of life that we're in. Because if the American church does not stand for liberty, Psalm 9710, if you love God, you must hate evil. If we do not do that, the country that we all love, the nation, Jeremiah 29.7, which is demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare. That's the Lord commanding you to care about your country. You are commanded to care about your nation. Amen. And I'm afraid the American church doesn't care and they're cowering in fear. Come on. And we have to change that.
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Speaker 2: Come on. Come on.
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Speaker 4: Thanks, man. So on December 3rd, 2020, here in Washington State, I think it was Senate Bill 5395 was passed, which instituted mandatory sex ed for all of our public education schools beginning in And one of the resources that started to get rolled out to five-year-olds was what they called the Gender Unicorn.
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Speaker 2: I think we got a picture of it.
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Speaker 4: And this was a resource created to help five-year-olds figure out.
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Speaker 2: Hold on. I believe we have a resource. Okay, they're going to do it on the side screens.
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Speaker 1: There we go.
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Speaker 4: And this was a resource created for five-year-olds to be able to determine.
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Speaker 2: what gender they were.
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Speaker 4: Also, beginning in kindergarten is when teachers would begin telling five and six-year-olds what their body parts were, and.
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Speaker 2: Then it just went downhill from there.
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Speaker 4: Charlie, what are you seeing within the nation in regards to, you know, it's actually kind of surprising that our governor, Jay Inslee, rolled this out because he's been such a courageous and bold and scientific leader for us you know you know um you know he it's funny on that really quick i mean yeah the shutdown the churches right like that that was one thing but he also shut down all our public parks and even all of our hiking trails and then to top it off he shut down fishing licenses we couldn't even go so a lot of people are mad because they couldn't worship i was mad because i couldn't go trout fish anyways.
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Speaker 2: What were we talking about? All right, no, no.
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Speaker 4: Charlie, what are you seeing in our nation in regards to a very demonic agenda, a war against our children that's being carried out through some ignorant teachers and then some full-on evil teachers?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we have to get our framing right. Gender doesn't exist. Only sex exists. And you must reject this idea of gender. You might say, well, Charlie, I've never heard that before. It's because gender is a new term. Literally 100 years ago, you would have said gender. No one would know what you're talking about. Because when they say gender is a social construct, they've already won the debate because there's sex and that's it. You might have a horoscope. You might have a personality. You might have an inclination towards something. That is not your sexual identity. It does not change. It can't change with surgery. It can't change with drugs. It can't change because you want it to change. God made man and woman, period. End of story. Hard stuff. I go even further where I say there are zero genders and there are two sexes, and it drives people nuts when I say that, but it's true. We should not all of a sudden pander to kids' sensitivities and feelings in the most vulnerable time of their life where they are now preyed on by these witch doctors. These are witch doctors, by the way. They're medieval witch doctors that are going after these kids in a predatory way where now in Washington a 13-year-old can do it without any sort of parental consent. In fact, the parent needs to be brought in. So what is the agenda here? I'm actually more religious than I ever have been my entire life. And let me tell you why. Because when I meet atheists and secularists and they come to me and they say, Charlie, I do not understand. I don't get what is happening. This defies all reason, all logic. And I say, I totally get it. If you understand that we are an enemy-occupied territory and Lucifer is the prince of this world, and Paul called him the God of this world, and that he is an agent of chaos and deception and disunity, this all starts to make sense. But for the unchurched or the uninitiated, they just don't understand it. If they're not totally into this alphabet mafia type garbage that is being thrown at our kids. And so what is the root of this? It's demonic because Lucifer must destroy the bond between a parent and a child. He must. Now, I encourage you, if you're going to reread the first five books of the Bible, which you should, the Pentateuch, and our Lord Jesus Christ loved the first five books of the Bible. Far too often, churches stay away from it. And it is literally the entire New Testament is built on the Old Testament. It harmonizes and rhymes throughout. But especially the book of Genesis is written as a nonstop critique and refutation of Egyptian river civilization pagan culture. traditions. We are now reentering those pagan traditions. And it is interesting. I love the Ten Commandments. I think it's just this eternal moral accomplishment, not just accomplishment, moral revelation that God comes down. And that's an interesting thing, by the way. Most of the world, most of your neighbors on Mercer Island or whatever, they think that morality that you come up with it yourself, we believe morality is external, that it is given. That distinction right there makes a good society versus an evil society. If you think morality is given to you by something greater than you, you're going to have a pretty decent society. If you think morality comes from within, you get Nazi Germany. Okay. So, and it's not an exaggeration. Okay. So that right there alone shows the need, the necessity for God. But think about it. Of all the things that you could command people to do, of all the things that you want to prevent people from doing, you have this incredible commandment. Honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the land of which you are in. So let's build this out a little bit. Honor, it comes from a Hebrew word which literally means heavy, to treat heavily, meaning the burden is heavy. You're not going to treat it lightly. Now, interestingly enough, in Hebrew, the word light and curse is the same word. So if you were to curse your parents, you were to treat them lightly. If you're honoring your parents, you were to treat them heavily. It's the only one of the Ten Commandments that involves a promise and involves your country. Honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the land of which you are in. You will remain free and you will live long in your nation if moms and kids, dads and kids have a tight bond. Satan must destroy that bond. And one of the ways he is doing it is not just through all the typical avenues, is through this transgender movement. Garbage is preying on especially young girls and young boys to a lesser extent, but young girls that are going through puberty and they have puberty anxiety. And instead of having puberty be the solution to their problems, which is to wait some time, many women in this audience probably remembers back to a time where you did not feel at place in your own body or you say, you know, aren't you glad that you didn't go to reconstructive surgery and chop off your breasts and get a hysterectomy? Well, that's what's happening to hundreds of thousands of young girls right now in America. It's not an exaggeration. This state is one of the leaders in chemical castration, gender reassignment surgery. Again, these are witch doctors that should be put in prison. There is no scientific basis for this. There is no clinical data for this. This is feeling-driven and corporate-driven for profits. Again, I think it comes from the pit of hell. And so they have to initiate it, though, with getting young kids to start to say, well, maybe I'm a boy in a woman's body or maybe I'm a girl in a man's body. And so that kind of train of thought But understand even deeper. If you have a society that's constantly questioning or not sure who they are, they're easier to control. They become malleable and pliable for tyranny. A society that is anchored in who they are and they're self-sovereign and they understand their place in the cosmos can say to some Governor Inslee, yeah, you're actually, I'm not going to listen to you. But somebody who's constantly vulnerable, who is searching and confused, become the perfect raw material for an authoritarian, Maoist-type regime to take root. So there's a lot of different components to this, but I just, parents, I implore you, be careful sending your kids to government schools. I'm not saying you must take them out, but there is a nonstop agenda to groom your kids, to turn your kids gay, to turn your kids trans, to turn your kids against you. I come under a lot of criticism for saying that stuff. It is a fact. There are teachers in this state where their stated agenda is to take your innocent child and turn them against your values and rebel against you, the very thing that Lucifer would love to see happen.
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Speaker 4: So we are saying that you're called into this political realm and I'm called into this church realm and then we have others here and they're called into what has become a very dark realm of education.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And we do have some incredible teachers here that teach in the public sector that are refusing to teach various curriculums. believing believers that are serving in these dark, dark places. And Charlie, could you just bring some encouragement and kind of bring a fresh charge to our amazing kingdom teachers that are on the front lines? And for those considering being teachers, is there something that you can bring to for them today.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, pray for wisdom and God will give it to you generously. James one five. And I mean, I, if you are in a government school position and you are tenured, I think that you should speak your faith every single day. And I think you should make them fire you. If they're allowed to put forward sexual perversion and they're allowed to do the alphabet thing, and they're allowed to do the rainbow flag thing. Those are religious symbols, by the way, make no mistake. Why can't you proclaim the truth of Jesus Christ? And by the way, if you have tenure, it's not easy to fire you. They can make life hell for you. They could really go after you, but you might say, well, Charlie, I want my pension and all that. Okay, fine. I'm not, those, those are excuses and that's fine. And maybe you can go find a job somewhere else, but you're asking me what you should do. You have a ministry opportunity. Okay. You're a government school teacher and you have kids that are searching, they're grappling for the truth. And maybe you don't have to be as blunt as I am, but maybe you can ask questions. Maybe a 14 year old says, you know, you know, Mrs. Smith, I'm actually a boy, but I was born a girl. And he's like, is that really how you feel? you know, here's a video of thousands of people that regret quote-unquote transitioning. Maybe you should wait till you're 18. That alone could change that kid's life. One person challenging the narrative could save a kid from irreversible surgery. One person. And so pray for wisdom. You know, some of you are going to be very outspoken. Some of you are going to be quieter. But my goodness, what I have found is that there are so many of these kids that There's this unbelievable, again, we have thousands of these videos coming up of these young, now like 25, 26-year-olds that regret all the surgery. There's nothing they can do. They can't go back to how they were. There's nothing we can do now except maybe give them money. And they're suing all these witch doctors. And there's this one in particular in New Hampshire says, I was affirmed by everybody. This is an unbelievable video. And she said, if one person would have not affirmed me, I would have not done the surgery. Maybe affirmation is the wrong thing to do. Maybe affirmation is why they end up butchering themselves. Because here's why. We make a false promise to these young kids that you can actually become the other thing. One more douse of testosterone. We're in church, but if you do not know the graphic, my description of medieval witch doctor is 100% correct, if you understand. Drilling holes that are filled with bacteria and infection to try to give people the appearance that there's something they're not. It doesn't change. I know. And some of you guys are like aghast, but this is happening in Washington right now. We don't know the number. They keep it quiet, but at least thousands of kids are undergoing this minimum, probably more tens of thousands, right? And there's no going back. And so if you're a teacher in that environment, please do what you can as a rescue mission to save these kids. Please. And by the way, parents are being held hostage by these doctors because these doctors will say, well, your kid is threatening to kill themselves. And would you rather have an alive trans son than a dead daughter? When in reality, the parent would say, how dare you morally blackmail me saying that my kid's going to kill themselves if they don't get on irreversible Lupron that chemically castrates them. maybe they have other underlying treatable conditions like depression and anxiety, and that surgery is not the answer to those things. In fact, it only makes those conditions worse.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 4: Hey, um, I got one last question for you. Um, And again, we're at church, you know, so we won't get political. But so in 2020, there was an election, okay?
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Speaker 2: And we're going to try not to get us kicked off of YouTube. Calm down.
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Speaker 4: There was this political candidate who was just phenomenal, but we just didn't see it coming because he figured out a way of not promoting himself at all, you know. And he figured out a way where he literally could stay actually in a literal basement and not have to travel, not have to get people excited about his campaign.
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Speaker 2: And, you know, and God bless. I mean, he's a little older, okay.
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Speaker 4: And sometimes, I'm not going to judge because, dude, sometimes I have difficulty finishing my sentences.
00:35:37
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 4: So I am not going to stand here and judge him for not being able to complete sentences. But just saying, you know, Donald Trump was out every day traveling the nation, kissing babies, okay, doing speeches. And so a lot of people just thought that Trump was going to get elected. But strangely enough, the guy that didn't really do really anything outside of Zoom talks, and I do Zoom talks, right?
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Speaker 2: I'm not judging.
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Speaker 4: Somehow, fairly won the election. And it kind of, it was, you know, and it just shocked everybody. So my question for you is, you know, we're going into an election year this next year. And we were so shocked and blown away in 2020 because of just how much integrity was shown in that election that there's probably people here wondering, how do we position ourselves as we go into an election year? Should we be nervous about integrity in voting? And how are you positioning yourself to get people to not be passive voters? and complacent as we go into a very important year for our country?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an important question. That was really creative the way you went about that.
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Speaker 2: YouTube loves me, by the way.
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Speaker 1: Tell them what they want to hear. I'll honor the rules. Look, I mean, here's the facts. If the American church showed up and worked and voted... this wouldn't even be close. A majority of Christians are not voting. A majority of pastors are not giving sermons on these issues. And the criticism I get is, well, Charlie, that's not the most important thing. I totally agree. It's not the most important thing. It's the second most important thing. The most important thing is sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ every single day. The second most important thing is making sure you could do the first thing. Make sure that the church is not deemed non-essential while abortion clinics and liquor stores and marijuana dispensaries and strip clubs are deemed essential. I mean, we're only a couple years removed from when fascism came to America. So look, the church needs to rise up and needs to do something about it. This election is going to be the most unpredictable, confusing election in history. There's probably going to be third-party candidates, no labels, Cornel West. We talk about this on our show all the time. I have no idea how this is going to end up. Donald Trump is facing 600 years in federal prison. It's true. And by the way, I'll be honest, one of the great disappointments is how silent and quiet the church has been in this massive injustice of them targeting Donald Trump. I have not seen the American pastoral community come out and say, this is modern-day Maoism where you can use the force of the federal government to go after a political dissident who's a former president, on drummed up fake charges, like absolute fake charges. You might hate Trump in this audience, but there is no excuse for you to say that what's happening to him is proper, ordinary, or acceptable. I'm not even here to tell you to like him, okay? You might hate him. You might think that he is all the worst things, but you should also, boy, if you're a spirit-filled Christian, I think you'll see what this is. And you see it's not just him. It's anybody who believes what he believes. From Gold Star moms to Tina Peters to pretrial detention of January 6th defendants to Michigan alternate electors to Steve Bannon to James O'Keefe to Rudy Giuliani, it is down the line. And so I don't know what this election is going to bring. We might be successful. We might be unsuccessful. I'm not going to make any sort of proclamations of grandeur. My big lesson is the church gets way too into prophecy and prediction. This is my personal opinion, okay? Sure. and not as much into marching orders. What are you going to do? And so my theology is the Nicene Creed, is the inerrancy of scripture, is that God will meet us halfway with something miraculous if we obey, if we act with obedience. And I will be honest, it is going to take a move of God for Donald J. Trump to become president again. But I believe in a God of miracles. But a God of miracles is not, I'm going to sit on my couch and just hope it happens. It's going to be, I'm going to scrap for every single itch. I'm going to fast and pray for my nation. I'm going to get involved politically. I'm going to run for school board. I'm going to care about my precinct. I'm going to be aware. I'm going to do whatever I am called to do, whatever that is, right? And we help at Turning Point, help fill that gap or fill that void. But somebody said the other day, as they said, well, Charlie, how big of a miracle is this going to take? That's a question of how are we going to act obediently not just politically, but just whole of life. And so this is what I said yesterday in Yakima, and I'm going to encourage you guys to have this belief system, okay? Which is you have to come into the mindset that you're going to have an unfavorable outcome on election day, okay? You have to come in, and this is what I think one of the magic of 2016 was, is that basically everyone thought we were going to lose, and all of a sudden we didn't, and it was like this miraculous thing. But then I'm going to challenge you. Are you still going to be involved in the fight in December of 2024? If you don't get what you want, if Joe Biden is elected to another four years, are you going to give up? And you might be upset. You might take 30 days off. You might mourn the loss. That's okay. But are you going to surrender? Because understand what is really going on here from Lucifer, from the pit of hell, is a mass demoralization campaign. Guess what? When I speak to secular audiences... They have a good excuse as to why they give up. You as Christians have no excuse. None. If you believe that Jesus is the king of the world, you have no excuse to be cynical or to give up. Ever. You could be nothing but hopeful and joyful and expectant.
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Speaker 4: I know you're not like a bro guy, but bro. Thank you so much for saying yes to the Lord.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, go, please.
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Speaker 1: So we have another service coming up at what time? 1130. Yeah, and we're going to try to make it a little bit different, but I think they're going to, I don't know, we'll be better attended or less attended, I don't know. But if you guys are not, just one shameless plug, right? And if you aren't listening, we do three podcasts a day. Some of you guys listen, I know, and we deeply appreciate you. Every single phone has a podcast app. If you would consider subscribing, there's QR codes. It's free of charge. It blesses us significantly. It's how we stay in touch. Um, we'd love my favorite word in the English language is earn. We'd love to earn the opportunity, uh, to be your new source once a week, twice a week, every day, whatever it might be. Uh, it's always from a biblical pro constitutional pro American perspective. Uh, it's called the Charlie Kirk show on your phone. If you subscribe, it would really bless us.
00:42:51
Speaker 2: Thank you. So good.
00:42:53
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:42:56
Speaker 4: And, uh, I just want to say thank you. Thank you for saying yes to the Lord. I think you'd be being bold and very courageous.
00:43:02
Speaker 2: And, uh, Hey, can we do this?
00:43:04
Speaker 4: Um, can we just hold Charlie and this ministry in our prayers? Because they're under some pretty heavy fire. You're not exactly liked.
00:43:15
Speaker 1: Okay. But that Jesus says, if you aren't loved by the world, you're doing something right. I have all the right enemies. Blessed are you who is persecuted in my name. I have all the right enemies.
00:43:29
Speaker 4: So can we, can we be praying for Charlie Kirk for this ministry and, And that God would continue just to pour out his blessing on them.
00:43:36
Speaker 2: Let's just do this real quick. This has been great.
00:43:39
Speaker 4: And I've just loved this conversation. But how many know that self-righteous good people don't go to heaven? Good people don't go to heaven. Forgiven people go to heaven. And how many know that all have sinned?
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Speaker 2: That's what we all have in common. We're all different here. We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
00:44:03
Speaker 4: And the Bible says that the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is life.
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Speaker 2: The Bible says that whosoever calls on the name of the Lord would be saved. And guess what? You're a whosoever, and so am I.
00:44:18
Speaker 4: Isn't it incredible to think that the forgiveness of all your sins, all your sins, all your sins, has been paid for finally? How many of you know that Buddha, before he died, said, strive without ceasing?
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Speaker 2: But Jesus, before he died, said, it is finished. And what does that mean?
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Speaker 4: It means that Jesus has done it all. At the end of the day, you don't need us to be your Savior. You don't need this church to be your Savior. You don't need Pastor Darren to be your Savior. You don't need Charlie Kirk to be your Savior. And you don't need Donald J. Trump to be your Savior. At the end of the day, you need Jesus to be your Savior.
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Speaker 2: Can we all just do this?
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Speaker 4: Let's just all bow our heads and close our eyes. This is the part of the service where we will be swinging from the chandeliers. That's what they do in heaven, you know, when people get saved. They order pizza and swing from the chandeliers.
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Speaker 2: Let's pray. In fact, let's just all do this together. Just say, Jesus, I believe in my heart. And I confess with my mouth that you are God.
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Speaker 4: That you died on a cross for all my sins. That you raised from the dead on the third day. That you ascended. And are seated at the right hand of the Father. Where you're praying for me.
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Speaker 2: I say yes.
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Speaker 4: To this gift of salvation. For the forgiveness of all my sins. And the removal of all my shame. Wow.
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Speaker 2: Isn't that good?
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Speaker 4: And listen, I know I didn't say amen, but listen, if you said that prayer today, I want to welcome you to the coolest, fastest growing family on the planet, the family of God. And now you're going to need a church family. If we're not your style, we can find you one that is. You're going to need some friends. You're going to need some people that believe in you and pray for you. But know this, if God is for you, who can stand against you?
00:46:36
Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Listen, thank you so much for being a part of this service. Ladies and gentlemen, Charlie Kirk, let's go. Appreciate you, man.
00:46:43
Speaker 1: Awesome. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

