One of the most important themes guiding Charlie's life in his final years was protecting Christendom from the encroachment of radical Islam. In this Freedom Night in America event from 2024, Charlie and pastor Andrew Sedra talk about Islam's infiltration of the West and how it has built an alliance with Marxists and the LGBTQ mafia. As Pastor Sedra explains, secularism is impossible: All nations must have a god, and if it is not the God of the Bible, then it will be either the god of Islam or the god of leftism.
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[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_04] All right. I'm not going to do a big intro because I think we have a guest that has traveled the most miles to be here of any Freedom Night guest all the way from Australia. Yeah. And he's a great, great guy. I just want to begin by saying thank you for those of you that came out for our amazing partnership with Dream Conference and Strong Church. It was incredible last week. And I'll just start with this. It'll be a perfect intro. When God created the heavens and the earth, he created separation and order.
[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_04] And the LGBTQ movement aims to destroy separation and order. And that is a perfect segue and intro to the gentleman who has traveled the most miles to be here at Freedom Night, Andrew Colvedt. Get up here, Andrew, and welcome to Freedom Night in America.
[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_09] Yes, yes. Thank you, Charlie. Thank you. Good, good. It's an honor to be with you guys tonight. Andrew, welcome to America.
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_08] Welcome. I love America, Sarah. I love America. Who does not love their country? Well, we know a couple people that... It is an honor to be in America, not just that. It is mind-blowing to be able in a country that loves God and values freedom. See, I was born in the Middle East. Freedom for me is a very, very precious commodity. And most people do not tend to understand the value of freedom until they lose it.
[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_08] You know, the reason I planted a church in Australia, because I grew up in Egypt where it was illegal. You can't really plant a church. For you to plant a church, the amount of paperwork, the amount of legislation, and then every single building of church had to be approved by the president of the country. On top of that, when I went to Australia and I figured out, oh, it's actually illegal to invite people to church. I was like, no way. That's crazy. You can actually speak of the Bible in the public square.
[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_08] And like, oh, but people are offended. I'm like, who cares? Who flipping cares? At least you can actually speak. And then to find pastors and leaders. Oh, I don't talk because I'm very... I don't want to offend people. I'm like, bro, I'll be killed where I was born if I spoke about Jesus. And that's the reason we ended up being in Australia. Like, my dad was preaching the gospel. He's a preacher. That's where I get my courage from.
[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_08] And he converted a particular Muslim person, his wife, to become a Christian. So the government was after him to put him in jail and torture him. And the Islamic Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas' cousin in Egypt, was there to try to kidnap us and kill us. So we kind of ended up escaping to Thailand. And then we went to Australia as religious refugees to find pastors. I don't want to offend people. I'm like, dude, you have no idea how many people are dying every single day
[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_08] to have the moment and the opportunity of having the freedom to speak the truth of the Bible, no matter what the cost.
[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_04] And Andrew, I guess in the irony, Australia is acting more like Egypt lately.
[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_08] Yes. So we went from the Muslims to find the LGBTQ mafia. They act the exact same way. It was very mind-blowing finding the unholy alliance between Islam and LGBTQ. At the moment, we have Queens for Palestine. Very weird. Like, I've never thought in my wildest dreams, you would see that unholy combination. AOC, Ilan Omar, I love American politics. Very, very weird. And what was so mind-blowing to me is that the LGBTQ community,
[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_08] particularly in Australia, we're living in a moment where they are on an aggressive journey to criminalize Christianity. Right now, if I go to Melbourne, in Australia, if I pray for a gay person, I go to jail for five years. Even with their consent.
[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_04] This is coming here, by the way. It's coming. California has legislation for this. Because if it's your identity, how dare you go and not tell somebody it's not their identity, right? It's very messed up stuff because genderqueer theory,
[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_08] it's the official religious cult of the state. People don't understand a country can never be secular. It's always going to end up pagan. Secularism is not neutral. Secularism is paganism. This is the reason everywhere we walk around Australia, the gay flag, Aboriginal flag, BLM flag, trans flag, every single type of flag for every single mentally ill person that needs to be in the hospital.
[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_08] And you're like, what is going on? And what most pastors say to our lives, we are no longer in secularism. We're actually in paganism. And every single identity is setting up their pagan god to worship. And that's the thing. Under leftism, you have to understand, every single pagan god is allowed except the god of the Bible.
[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_08] Right now in Australia, it is legal to discriminate against Christians. Right now, if I go, I was invited on TV a few weeks ago, and the right-wing channel, Fox News Cousin, I wasn't allowed to go because I might be too offensive on the right-wing media or they might get sued. So you can go to jail for offending the Ojibwe community, yet on TV, they mock, they make fun, they bully Christians every single day.
[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_08] So under secularism, every identity, every religion, every culture is sacred and holy to be protected by the government except Christianity. And that's what people don't understand. That is why secularism is so aggressive towards Christianity. And I want to encourage people to stop being a secularist Christian, but actually to become a Christian Christian.
[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_08] You have to understand, America is either going to be under almighty God or the LGBTQ sex religion or almighty violent Allah or Moloch, the God of child sacrifice and the God of abortion or Jezebel, the God of feminism. You are going to have to pick a God because the problem is people want the blessing without the God. They want the flame without the fire.
[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_08] They want the privilege without responsibility. And every single person is going to have, are you going to be under the God of the Bible or under Aphrodite, the God of the LGBTQ and sex religion or under Moloch or under Jezebel? I'm telling you, man, in Australia, we have every single type of God that you can ever worship except the God of the Bible because what unites Islam and the LGBTQ sex religion is one thing. They both hate Christianity.
[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_08] They both hate the West and they both hate America. And that is the reason they can have the opposite views. Yet somehow they get along very, very well. They both are anti-God, anti-Christianity, anti-West and anti-America. That is why every single God can be worshipped except the God of the Bible. That's why they say happy holidays, not Merry Christmas. But in Ramadan, happy Ramadan. I'm like, wait, what?
[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_08] I thought we're secular. Where did that come from, man? Where did that come from?
[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_04] How great is that, by the way? It's terrific. It's important to remember the context of the Bible when it was written. There was not... In this river valley civilizations or Mesopotamia, people did not believe in nothing. That is a new phenomenon of Western culture. We call it secularism. People say, oh, I don't believe in any God. They're lying to you. Something is their God, the God of pride or the God of unlimited sex.
[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_04] Everybody has a God that they worship. But especially Genesis 1 through 11 was Almighty God establishing separation and order in direct refutation of every other belief system, especially, and I'm gonna bring your native country, the Egyptian pagan belief system. And Exodus was written, and if you read a level deeper in the book of Exodus, which happens to be my favorite book of the Bible, because it applies to today so much,
[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_04] and we need deliverance from this terrible, tyrannical regime that we're living under right now.
[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_06] Amen.
[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_04] And that when Moses was called, and it's important to remember, Moses was called. He didn't sign up for this. He was called into service, and Moses literally means called out of the water. It literally means that in Hebrew. That every single one of the plagues was a direct refutation of one of the Egyptian gods, Ra the sun god, Nile river worship. And before what was, of course, Judaism,
[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_04] which led to Christianity, the idea of monotheism, one God was never entertained on this planet. There was a God for the sand, and a God for the cactus, and a God for the camel, and you would kill animals for this. It was polytheistic. The norm of human behavior is to make gods out of everything. Everything changed when Moses went to the burning bush, and he says, I am who I say that I am. One God.
[00:10:54] Amen.
[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_04] Adonai. Hashem. Whatever word you want to use for it. Now, why is that applicable to morality? Multiple gods, multiple moralities. One God, one morality. If you want to be able to do whatever you want to do, whenever you want to do it, you will entertain and demand a polytheistic society. Our belief system, Christianity, which is the truth, is the only system on the planet
[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_04] that effectively can crush paganism. There is nothing else that exists that can defeat paganism. In fact, the buried story of the Bible is constantly going back to paganism. And Andrew, I'll let you preach here. Moses just leaves for a little while. He gets the uploaded moral app from God. What was Aaron doing? They just saw an act of God, and what did he resort back to?
[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_08] Building the sacred holy cow. We are living in a moment where paganism is very sacred. Every single person, I said before, gay flag, BLM flag, trans flag, they them flag, pancake flag, pansexual flag. Every single time a flag. And what's happening at the moment, every single pagan God is coming back on the scene. And every single country, particularly the West, you will have to choose,
[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_08] are you going to be under the almighty God of the Bible? Or under Allah, the violent God of Islam? Or under Moloch, the God of child sacrifice? Or under Jezebel, the goddess of feminism? Or under Buddha, the God of the East? Every, there are so many gods coming back. And America will have to make a decision. Because we're Australia, we are 10 years ahead of you guys. We have been through hell and back.
[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_08] Like we are having in Australia now, prayer, types of prayer are criminalized. Even if the person asks me to pray for them, if I pray for them, I go to jail for five years. Praying. And in that type of bill, it's in Melbourne, it literally says evangelical conservatives. It says evangelical conservative type of prayer. It's illegal to tell a gay person to fast. It's illegal to, if a gay person comes to me in the foyer or in the lobby, hey, what do you think about that?
[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_08] I would go to five years jail if I tell him.
[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_04] What do you think of his lifestyle?
[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. So they have set up all the systems and rules. And we don't have a constitution. I think the American constitution is one of the best three documents after the Bible.
[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_04] A gift from God.
[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_08] I'm from the Middle East. When I read that document, I'm like, oh my God.
[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_04] And it's built on the Bible. That's what we, it didn't just come ex nihilo. The Bible's the foundation of our constitution.
[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_08] The philosophy of the past and the divine revelation. I was reading George Washington's letters the other week and it is mind blowing. It's very, very important. So we have prayer. And now they're trying to extend the definition to schools. So at the moment, they're going after what they call homophobic environment. Guess what that is? It's called the church. It's hilarious. We're like, homophobic environment. I'm like, what is a homophobic? It's much, it's a church I'll lead that we don't allow sin.
[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_08] You can come to church, but we'll not tolerate your sin. Obviously, we'll not celebrate your sin because whatever you tolerate, the next generation will celebrate. Our beautiful radical leftist prime minister, a few days ago, we have our pride month, which is like, it's like, we have it twice. We have it in February and in July.
[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_04] So we only have it once in June.
[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_08] We have two months and then we have homophobia day and anti-trans day and coming. The whole year is gay pretty much. It's crazy. Every single day, like you go to the city now, there's a gay building, gay floor, gay giraffe, gay shark, gay police. The only thing that's not gay is me and my wife and our church at the moment. Sorry if you're gay, it's a joke. But going back, it's very, very important because what's happening is they're setting up the environment to systematically criminalize Christianity.
[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_08] We're at the moment debating a bill in Australia by the end of the year where Christian schools will have to teach gender ideology by law because it's against a duty of care to not affirm someone's behavior. Guess what? It wasn't about love, tolerance and diversity. It was about totalitarian control. That's a lot of parts of things. Love, tolerance. I'm like, no, no, no. It was never about love, tolerance, diversity. It was about totalitarian control. That every single person
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_08] has to worship the pagan gods of the state. And that's what's happening in America at the moment, by the way.
[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_04] And I want to emphasize, he mentions Jezebel. I encourage every one of you to open your Bible to 1 Kings and do a study of Elijah. And we need a spirit of Elijah right now in this country. And by the way, it's a great example if anyone ever tells you, oh, you shouldn't be political. Elijah was political when he went to Ahab and he said, let's throw down on this mountain. Is it the pagan God or is it the almighty God? How is that not being political to confront the powers to be
[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_04] of who is actually God in your land? I just, I want to emphasize that. And Elijah is one of the most important figures of the Bible. So powerful and important that some of the disciples wondered if Jesus was Elijah coming back. They entertained this idea. And so I encourage all of you to lean in on that. And Jezebel is Hillary Clinton. I just have to say that and I'll just leave it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's just that I couldn't resist. I was doing a deep study and it's not even an opinion. It's just a fact. And well.
[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_08] It's quite amazing actually, the return. And by the way, I want to quickly mention that condition of churches being politicians instead of prophets. Every single church have to make a decision. Are you a prophet or are you a politician? See, you have to understand this is the moment you're either going to preach the truth of the Bible no matter what the cost or you're going to be politically correct. And eventually, what you say, it will be illegal. Like I'm at the moment, I don't even know
[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_08] what's going to happen to me by the end of this year because sooner or later, this type of laws are designed for people like me. You know what I'm saying? Like sooner or later, I'll be facing, because we have, like when they introduce these laws, they have a gay police section. Like a section in the police department that is designed for gay hate crimes. So before you know it, I'm like an official terrorist. So they are designed and manufactured to invest homophobic peace in, which happens to be
[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_08] Christian pastors. So sooner or later, I will be going to at least like a case with at least half a million dollars simply because of speaking the truth. If you continue to be quiet, eventually, it will be illegal to speak. This is very, very important. If you continue to choose to be quiet, because people at the moment, they're just playing the politically correct game. I'm like, dude, you have no idea. It's only a matter of time. What is tolerated
[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_08] will be celebrated. And your view will become a criminal offense.
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[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_08] At the moment in Australia, Christianity is becoming a criminal offense one step at a time. One step at a time. In every sense, like we had the police come to us so many times for my sermon. Like, they come to me in the middle of the week, hey man, you said this in the middle of the week, what do you mean by that? I'm like, what do you mean man? I'm preaching. I'm like, do you want to check my sermon? Like, what do you want to do? And they were like to me, yeah, we're very scared of a, they called it a hate incident. So now, it used to be hate crime.
[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_08] Now they're moving a bit closer. They're trying to find evidence for something that doesn't exist. So I'm here to warn you, if you continue to choose to be quiet, it will eventually be illegal to speak.
[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_04] This is a modern day Daniel is really what you are and I have to, and I mean that in the best possible way. Someone who preaches the truth and is willing. So Andrew, I mean this non-ironically, not sarcastically, some pastors would say, Romans 13, you must submit to the government authorities. Why don't you just follow the law? They tell you that you're not allowed to preach the Bible and, you know, we have this going on in America where we have pastors that say, you're not allowed to resist the government. The government tells you
[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_04] you can't be hateful, you're not allowed to preach the word and yet you do that.
[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_08] Well, this is liberal white Christianity. I call it liberal white Christianity because say that to people in the Middle East, they're going to laugh at you. Like, you're telling me I cannot tell my Muslim friend about Jesus? Like, you're crazy. And this is what I call secular Christianity. Liberal, lawless Christianity. World Christianity, it's a very weird thing and it's a very Western thing. What world Christians do is that they split religion from politics. And it's hilarious. They split, sex is political, religion,
[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_08] and what they fail to realize is that politics is religious and religion is political. And you will never, there is actually no difference between religion and politics. So, this is what you call the secularization of culture because of woke pastor. This is very important. Woke pastors, they're not just weak and woke. They're actually womanized pastors. What do I mean by that? See, it is very beautiful when women act like women. But when men act like women,
[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_08] women is very weird. And this is how weak men act. They have empathy with their courage. They have truth with their love. They have compassion with their correction and they have kindness with their repentance. So, they're feminized men. They're always feminized. This is the condition of the Western church, I believe. They're actually, they're actually feminist
[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_08] and therefore they're feminized. So, by nature, this attribute of strength and courage is a man attribute. That's why God told Joshua, be strong and be courageous. Strength and courage are for men. Right? So, men, leaders have to man up and take territory and be strong and be courageous
[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_08] and speak the truth of the Bible no matter what the cost. And sorry, and for the people they're like, I'm like, awesome, awesome. What about Daniel? What about Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego? What about Paul? What about Jesus? What about Elijah? What about Elisha? What about Joshua? What about Moses? Every single character in the Bible was political. What Bible are you actually reading?
[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_04] And the midwives to the Hebrews that ignored Pharaoh's decree when he said, throw all the babies into the river and they disobeyed Pharaoh's order and it says explicitly, God looked favorably because they feared God. Exodus 1, it is right there at the beginning of Exodus. And so, Andrew, I'm very inspired by you because, you know, the pastors in this country are largely a joke and I want to say with the right exception, we had an amazing conference here at Dream Conference and I want to make sure that,
[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_04] but there's so many pastors and they are afraid of losing attack status, you could be in prison. You could end up being, I want everyone to understand this, that Andrew could be a pastor, a prisoner, I'm trying to think of the right word, I was going to say political pastor or political prisoner, but a pastor prisoner in the Western world in the short, in the near future and that you seem invigorated, you seem to have a spirit
[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_04] that is from the Holy Spirit where you don't care if they put leg irons or shackles on you and I just want to, I just want to commend you because I wish that we, if we had 2,000 pastors with the same spirit that you have, the West would be saved. I really believe that.
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_08] Because this is very important. In the last 30 years, churches gained a lot of followers, but they failed to realize that every spiritual change has to lead to a cultural change. Politics is an outstream of culture, but culture is an outstream of the moral condition of a nation and this gets worse if you're a pastor. The moral condition of a nation is an outcome of the church's condition and it is very obvious that we have been losing ground
[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_08] more than ever. Marriage has been defiled. Kids are being killed before they're even born. It's a non-negotiable. Drag queens are around presidents instead of pastors. Can you believe it? Can you have drag queens in school? Yeah. Can you have scripture in school? No. Can you have pride months in school? Yeah. Can you pray in school? No. Pastors actually have to wake the hell up because we are losing ground. Sorry, I'm from Australia. I'm very progressive.
[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_08] It is very, very important because Desherzio Ben-Hoffer said the ultimate test of a moral society, what kind of world it will leave for its children. And this is a moment and I'm fighting from Australia. I don't know if it's going to turn but guess what? I'm going to fight and die. I don't care because I would rather die for something instead of believing nothing.
[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_04] And I want to interrupt here. It's easy for an American pastor to say that. It wasn't easy during COVID because we were acting like Australia. When you say that, you actually mean it because they're not joking around in Australia. Australia is East Germany on steroids right now. We can go through the COVID stuff, the forced vaccination, the lack of mobility and Americans, part of the alphabet mafia here in America, they want to bring the Australia model here to the States.
[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_08] The alphabet mafia and Islam, but we're going to leave that for another time. Islam? The alphabet mafia are the opposite ideology of Christianity and it is the point of tension that the left have found in order to criminalize Christianity. It's very, very important because we love kids. We care about our children. We will not let the devil take our children. We're not going to let some drag queen, mentally ill men go around kids and talk to them and sing to them. We are not going to let
[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_08] our children be gay. Why? Because we believe if you practice homosexuality, you're actually going to go to hell. So the problem we're facing at the moment, the left and the secularists have found the biggest point of tension with Christianity and they're going to maximize on it until everything. You have no idea. Like in Australia at the moment, we are just getting a bill after a bill after a bill. It doesn't stop. Every few months I have to check all of them. What am I doing now? That's illegal. What am I doing? Like me speaking illegal.
[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_08] Me praying is illegal. And that's how we know by the way it's the spirit of Babylon. The spirit of Babylon attacks prayer, preaching, worship. We have seen the three things in the last few years. This is not open to interpretation. The preaching of the gospel. Hey, speech laws. Why are we pro freedom of speech? Because we want to preach the truth of the Bible. You wonder why secularists hate the constitution. Because through the constitution they are unable to stop the preaching of what they call hate speech and by hate speech
[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_08] they mean the Bible. That's really what they mean. The homophobic ideology on like, yeah, the Bible. That's really, what are you really talking about? Let's be honest. Secondly, prayer. We are seeing in Australia the criminalization of prayer. We are the first nation in the whole entire Western civilization to criminalize prayer because we're at the moment we are no longer in Jerusalem we are in Babylon. It's very, very important and the reason a lot of the older generation pastors they're unable to move because they don't realize
[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_08] we are no longer in Jerusalem. David is not in charge it is Nebuchadnezzar. This is the reason it was illegal to worship at some point. Whenever the spirit of Babylon takes control three things happen. Criminalization gospel prayer worship all these three things in the last four years have come under attack. This is not a conspiracy friend the spirit of Babylon is right here right now operating
[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_08] so you are no longer in Jerusalem where you are in the White House and the people are praying no, no, no, no, no. Pastors are replaced by drag queens and gay men and trans. That's actually what's happening and you have to understand we are no longer in Jerusalem. We are in Babylon which means you will have to be Daniel Shadrach Masek and Abednego and speak the truth of the Bible when it comes to worship prayer preaching amen
[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_04] amen so I want to get to questions but Andrew I think it's very important that you emphasize I want you you're from Egypt you grew up around institutional Islam you have said some things that some people in this audience would feel uncomfortable repeating but I want you to really lean in on it you have a full green light you have said that the God of Islam is a violent God and I want you to I want you to provide evidence for that and I want you to prove it I mean that in the best possible way
[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_04] because for someone to say that in modern culture it's
[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_08] so already in Australia that Islam have managed to create vilification laws that people like me cannot even talk about Islam but I'm still going to talk about it
[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_04] you still can in this country praise God we still have some sliver of freedom of speech so have at it
[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_08] it's great you'll be surprised how every single thing you will not be able to talk about anything in the Bible that's really what's happening at the moment in Australia abortion nothing nothing but going back so I grew up in the Middle East where my dad is a pastor he was really passionate about converting Muslims to Christians so he converted a particular person and then there's two particular stories the first person he converted his wife so the guy decided because in Islam by the way Egypt is not a radical Muslim country it's actually a secular Muslim
[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_08] which is secular Islam is very radical it's it's very violent and you don't understand so 80% of Egyptians Muslims and they're secular they believe if you convert from Islam to anything you must die the person that converted you must die the person that baptized you must die the person that took you to church must die so that's the religion of peace oh my god it's crazy and this is very important because number one you need to read the Quran number two you just need to talk to people
[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_08] like talk to Christians who came from the other side of the world like if Islam is a religion of peace then why am I here I don't understand it's actually not a religion of peace it's a religion of pieces going back it's very very important because they decided that person that my dad converted that he was going to kill me and my brother cut our heads off and send it to my dad so we were very young we were in school back then I think I was in year two or something and my dad
[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_08] told me a story and he decided he took his Muslim Brotherhood friends so Muslim Brotherhood is Hamas in Egypt so the terrorist wing every country have their own Hezbollah Taliban I can tell you about that later that fun stuff but going back it was very important so he decided that he will kidnap me and my younger brother cut our heads off send it to my dad as a punishment for him converting his wife to Christianity and baptizing her that person got his friends from radical Islam he got them in the car they came we used to go to school
[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_08] at 7 o'clock in the morning they come in the morning they're about to get out of the car me and my young brother are going down and suddenly they're about to attack us they froze they couldn't move they couldn't move at all until we went to the bus the bus started moving as we went to school they started moving the guy was very angry again he was part of the Muslim Brotherhood and he was very angry like you guys are a coward you guys can't kill these people for Allah so they came a week after a few days later and he got a different team and he decided he's going to
[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_08] kidnap me and my younger brother cut our heads off send it in back to my dad as a consequence and as revenge for my dad converting his wife to Christianity they come the exact same day they come again they try to move and that particular day they felt a power take their hands and put it behind their heads and they couldn't move at all until we went to the car to the bus sorry and the bus went and they went so angry again we didn't know anything
[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_08] until a few weeks later he came to my dad and he became a Christian because he told him I tried to kill your kids but your God protected them and I believe in God in Jesus and so this is the reality you're dealing with Islam it's a utilitarian religion meaning they believe in lie for a good cause so whatever you get of Islam in the west is not the west come to Australia at the moment
[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_08] we live in a neighborhood that's now infiltrated by Islam so it's very dangerous for me and my wife because what I say I end up getting death threats we look like Mecca it's crazy so what you don't understand is that Islam is a very violent religion theologically practically and historically
[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_04] can you just add a little bit of depth to the theological elements because the Quran is not nor do I recommend for people to read the Quran
[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_08] well in order for you to read the Quran you have to read Arabic so I was very lucky because I got forced to read the Quran
[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_04] the translations are no good
[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_08] and the translation they purposely turn it down that's right
[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_04] it's 100% the Hadith it is completely different
[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_08] talking about indoctrination I went to a Christian school the first half year of my life and under Islam every single Christian had to learn the Quran so it's kind of the LGBTQ indoctrination that's why when I see it here I'm like been there done that before so Islam by nature it really their main text it said prepare for them what you can again I know the verses because I was forced to memorize it and I didn't know why God protected me now I know I think I know now why God protected us but going back
[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_08] the Islamic theology hinges on making the whole world Muslim by force that's why when you look at the Saudi Arabia flag it literally has a sword Muhammad was not a peaceful guy he was peaceful for the first 10 years because he tried to be Jesus but eventually Jews particularly were like you're an idiot so he ended up killing them that's why there's a lot of tension between Islam and Jews particularly because Muhammad had a lot of drama with Jews he killed one of the two biggest Jewish leaders and he forced their wives to have sex with him or marry him
[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_08] again they're going to kill me with that but it's all right he also married a 9 year old Aisha Aisha she was 9 very weird stuff man very weird stuff
[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_04] but going this is their number 1 figure I hope everyone understands
[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_08] he's better than Jesus so he's the best
[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_04] according to Islam J.S.U. is in the Quran as a lower prophet Muhammad is the ultimate prophet
[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_08] and not just that Muhammad Muhammad actually is the example of all examples so according to them Muhammad is the final and most perfect prophet and according to them which is crazy Muhammad can never ever sin so the problem Islam is facing with all that killing stuff is that they believe Muhammad is perfect so they cannot change their text they have to change their perception of the text to meet Muhammad so under Islamic religion they believe that one day
[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_08] every single person will become a Muslim by force and this will happen through reigning in Jerusalem that's why the Israel's thing it's very very big people do not understand like our antichrist in Revelation is their Christ so if you read the Quran which I had to read is that there is like a figure called a Mahdi who will come and he will declare war on Israel and then Jesus apparently is going to come to kill all Jews that's why Hamas the Hamas mission statement
[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_04] that's actually it's indecipherable from Nazi Germany eliminate every Jew on the face they were working together they had the same intellectual fathers
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[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_08] but what's interesting though is very very important is that they believe in the end times that Mahdi is gonna come and he's gonna and Jesus is gonna come back and he's gonna lead the Muslims into victory against the Jews and he will kill every single Jew in Israel that's why when you see the Hamas mission statement that is actually what every Muslim believes and I'm not being controversial that they say no
[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_04] but that is their eschatological text but Andrew I will play at you know just the opposite they'll say what about moderate Muslims is there such a thing in your view? sorry moderate Muslims
[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_08] moderate Muslims is very I said to you Egypt is not Iraq Egypt is like the most secular Islam and I had to run away they're gonna kill me kill my father sorry the Muslim brothers were gonna kill me the government was gonna kill my father
[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_04] so we are moderate Islam so Andrew what would you say to Americans as we are now importing hundreds of thousands of Muslims into our country every year?
[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_08] oh you need to have a strong immigration policy it is a non-negotiable it is a non-negotiable and that is coming from a refugee see I went for a work church the biggest church in Australia you know it we're known for the music not gonna drop names and I remember being in the congregation and the pastor was saying we need to allow Muslims and everybody in and it was very very offensive because I told him do you have an idea how many pastors got killed trying to escape a Muslim country?
[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_08] how dare you act empathetic I told you before woke pastors they're empathetic but they're not truthful they love love but they don't like courage they speak loving but they have no truth and I went to him and he was like to me yeah we need to love people I'm like say that to people like me who escaped on the other side of radical Islam and I'm gonna tell you crazy news Egypt used to be the most Christian nation in the world you gotta understand Augustine lived there
[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_08] Egypt is the ex-America
[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_04] Augustine of Hippo the early church father
[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_08] so people do not understand and Americans need to understand if you mess around with progressivism and Islam you will become the new Egypt so I did a DNA test a few weeks ago and I'm 98% Coptic so we were the initial pagans that when Mark came became Christian and the whole of Egypt became Christian in 600 Islam took over Egypt by the force Egypt tried to negotiate with him by giving him a sex slave her name was Mariam and then Muhammad slept with her
[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_08] and married her as usual religion of peace religion of sex actually and then and then and then after it they took over Egypt and people had to convert or die or the other option they had to pay a higher tax called Algezia so my family had to escape to the bottom until Egypt became more moderate and we came up and when Islam took over Egypt the first thing they did was they burnt the library of Alexandria it had Bibles it had theology
[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_08] all the orthodox theology of the Middle East of the ancient civilization it got burned so if you think Islam cannot destroy America the history books would actually disagree with you
[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_04] that's pretty chilling isn't it everybody that's and so and
[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_08] Islam is a more powerful reality than progressivism I believe progressivism is the pathway to Islam if you study Islam's eschatology you will end up looking to see that the antichrist of the bible is the Christ of Islam it's very very important progressivism is a phase it's not a thing you gotta understand progressivism is designed to make men weak to make men gay to make men cut their body parts
[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_08] and to make men more women and from there you will see the rise of Islam it's very very important that's what's happening in Australia
[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_04] we're over time before questions but do you believe Islam is a counterfeit let's just say line from Ishmael downward as prophesied
[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_08] of course of course Isaac and Ishmael the holy prophet of Islam is Ishmael so the thing you're facing in Islam we believe that the Messiah came from Isaac in Islam the Messiah came from Ishmael
[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_04] and they also believe that it was Ishmael who was binded not Isaac but Abraham so Genesis I think 16 or whatever it is 17 yeah it's actually in their text it's actually Ishmael yeah so if you read they say that the Jews lied it wasn't Isaac it was Ishmael who was binded and so from that David I want you to understand the profundity of that statement
[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_08] this is very it's prophetic that's why the war in Israel is very very prophetic I say that because I came from the Middle East because we grew up as kids they taught us to hate Jews and we got taught in school I will show you a bit of propaganda videos at some point that we got taught as kids that killing Jews is a service to God so the whole war between Israel and Palestine is very spiritual it's very prophetic it's very ancient yet very contemporary because the child
[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_08] of the slave woman is fighting it's fighting with the child of the free woman Isaac and Ishmael are two different figures fighting over does salvation come from Israel or does it come from Palestine does salvation come from Jesus or does salvation come from Muhammad does salvation come from the son of the promise Isaac or does salvation come from the son of the flesh Ishmael if you study Islam you will see it's very simple
[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_08] it's the two children fighting over is Jesus the son of God or is Muhammad the savior of the world it's very prophetic and I did two sermons on it you can check it but it's very important
[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_04] I'm so glad I asked that that was one of the most I think important little nuggets let's start lining up for questions and Andrew I want to just you know talk about that at length you know if questions come up with it because there's a lot of confusion around Islam and especially you see cities such as Minneapolis that have been completely conquered and this is a very important thing there are a few examples isolated of let's just say Arab Muslims
[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_04] that come to America and assimilate but more times than not they change the country they go to more than the country they go to changes them and that's a it's not do you agree with that Andrew and I hate to I don't want to generalize
[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_08] no no no it's not a generalization it's not a generalization because the problem I said before this is a practical reality of the Middle East this is a historical reality of the Islamic conquering number three this is a reality in if you look at London and Europe and Australia like you gotta understand like you got a very blessed American culture is very strong when you come to Australia we have streets that if I walk in with a shirt with Jesus they might kill me
[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_08] like we have areas in Australia where my wife she can never go they were gonna like touch her or something like you are dealing Islam is not a assimilating type of religion it's a conquering type of religion and you just have to study the text just look at London man look like it's
[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_04] they have a Muslim mayor
[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_08] yeah and you are in trouble man because Islam it's see I said it before Islam is not a hype Islam has been tested by time space and culture it has conquered Egypt it has conquered Libya it has conquered Indonesia it has conquered India and it became Pakistan it has conquered Malaysia they have the track record and it has been around since 600 men if you think Islam is a joke you are in big
[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_08] massive massive trouble see the progressives are delusional they think because again I said the unholy allies between progressives and Islam is that they both hate Christianity they both hate the West and they both hate America but eventually the progressives think they're going to win but they don't know they're not going to win with that one because you have LGBTQ, ABC, they, them versus a masculine Muslim man yeah
[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_04] progressivism is a pathway they think it's a goal that's exact it's a gateway drug to totalitarianism let's go let's get to as many questions as we can we're going to try to take about 15-20 minutes worth yes ma'am
[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_05] what would you say to a person in the church or just a Christian in general who doesn't like hearing the truth but calls truth judgment yeah
[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_08] what would you call Christians that call the truth judgment correct I said it before it's radical Christianity I'm not sure was it J.K. Chester that said any virtue in extreme becomes a heresy one of the biggest problems we have at the moment is that we love love but we hate truth we love loving Jesus we don't love fearing Jesus we love empathy but we don't love courage it's it's these people are very radicalized individuals and it's not biblical like the problem is I said it before
[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_08] the gospel is about repentance not tolerance truth has to trigger you then offend you and the problem with this work pastors and liberal pastors if they have a problematic understanding of the gospel they want revival without repentance they want the Holy Spirit without holiness they it's great you look at these people and they want love without truth and what they're failing to realize they are missing half of the gospel they always have on the church come as you are
[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_08] but what they really mean is stay as you are that's a good one
[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_04] that is so deep I can't even tell you
[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_08] have you seen that come as you are and it's radicalism man it's radicalism and it's heretical it's not it's not biblically accurate
[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_04] not even close it's not even
[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_08] it's not biblically accurate if you study theology and use your brain like I used to go to a woke church and I told them honestly the only way for me to stay is I have to be stupid like it's because you and I'm really sorry because because I think that the two problems of woke pastors is number one intellectual stupidity they purposely they purposely choose to not study the Bible and because the texts are there like you don't need to be a scientist to understand the Bible you just need to read it and the problem is they purposely
[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_08] are intellectually lazy and they don't want to wrestle with the text because the problem is you gotta find the Bible very uncomfortable the Bible is very uncomfortable because it has to trigger you convict you and then you're gonna have like oops I need to actually change
[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_04] by the way it's uncomfortable for those of us that lean in the direction of always being on the truth or on the love side I'm more on the truth side and then it talks about loving your enemies and I'm like I wanna put my enemies in prison like and so no but I'm not I don't and then but it so it makes me uncomfortable to say that and it should but do they struggle the same way that I struggle with the text because my nature is very justice oriented you guys know
[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_08] these people are hilarious because what they always do they tell you I don't like the way you say it I'm like awesome how to say it and they I call them the tone police they're not I'm like can you be a truth police not a tone police people always attack me you're hateful you're judgmental all this stuff I'm like awesome what is it that I said that is wrong so ask them how should the judgmental guys say it and they're not gonna tell you how
[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_08] so when I figured it out they are a
[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_04] tone police that's exactly and because they're so centered on their feelings because deep down they're narcissists and they never want to be uncomfortable they never want to be told that they might be an error the Bible corrects your errors it gets you back on the path and if you read the Bible for affirmation you're reading the Bible for the wrong reasons you're not gonna get affirmation you're not gonna get that you'll get love you'll get mercy and forgiveness but you can't have forgiveness
[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_04] if you don't acknowledge you've sinned by definition why would you need forgiveness if you've never erred
[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_08] you cannot have salvation without repentance that's a theological tenet I told you they have never read a book which is the problem with them but the bigger issue is they always tell you I want to be known for what I'm for not what I'm against and I'm like eight out of the ten commandments are one not to do thou shalt not kill I'm like ooh it's very weird
[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_04] they don't honor their parents and they don't honor the Sabbath they and keep it holy so they
[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_08] it's hilarious talking to these people because on top of that too with them they really have a massive misunderstanding of the Bible and the problem is by the way the reason they are intellectually lazy because when you know the truth you're gonna have the courage to say it
[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_04] which is the second part the truth and this is very important and we'll get to the next question I meet a lot of people that come up to me and they know the truth but it's completely wasted on them because they're doing nothing with it and so the truth is only as good as the courage is the accelerant of which then the truth is allowed to spread imagine if Andrew believed all these things and he was still part of that woke worthless church and you know was singing those songs that you know no one listens
[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_04] to anymore and imagine if that was the case and no but instead you're bold enough to go into the arena and to spread the truth so thank you for the question
[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_08] if you're not gonna get killed
[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_04] go for it man but I mean we're all gonna die and then we go to heaven I just this whole argument to me I mean is something else it's just you know by the way I'm afraid to go to prison like basically every person we remember fondly in the bible you know either endlessly struggled with god ended up in prison or died because of their faith okay like the only one again that got it pretty good was Elijah he got like a direct connect up to heaven okay it's very rare usually it ends in beheadings or god why did
[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_04] you choose me Moses didn't even have a funeral it's a fact no one even knows where he was buried there's a reason for that
[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_08] going back they are the feminized and therefore feminine churches courage is a man virtue love is a woman virtue I said before it's beautiful when women act like women when men act like women it's very weird
[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_10] are you familiar with the black robe regiment do you consider yourself a black robe pastor and are they jailing black robe pastors in Australia
[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_04] so I'll do you know what the black robe regiment is okay so the black robe regiment was a group of pastors pastors in the American founding that spoke truth for repentance they included Jonathan Mayhew George Whitefield Jonathan Edwards sinners in the hands of an angry God and they would wear black robes every time they would preach and it was a movement of these hundreds and thousands of pastors that led to the great repentance that led to the first revival that led to the American revolution
[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_08] I think there's two things number one we're in a big trouble in Australia because we're very westernized when troubled people because most pastors in Australia think I'm a conspiracy theorist I'm like I'm not a conspiracy theorist man when the police is knocking on your door at church to find you that's already the Middle East it's not I'm like when they're finding you when they're shutting down your church like in Australia we had this is crazy we had to in order to enter church during COVID they had to give every
[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_08] single church and business a code every person had to sign on a government app and scan a code and that code was connected to the government so every time you enter the church and no pastor said that which is crazy every time you enter to church the government knew who went for how long you had to scan the code it was literally like the mark of the beast stuff you had to scan the code to enter church to scan the code to exit church and the government straight away will get a notification
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[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_04] I have to say something about this conspiracy theorist thing because it drives me nuts okay we were we said that there were financiers and former presidents flying to Caribbean islands underage girls and we were called conspiracy theorists we said the virus came from a laboratory and we were called conspiracy theorists we said that hey the borders wide open and that people on the terrorist watch list are coming into our country and we were called conspiracy theorists we said that masks are not going to prevent the spread of the virus we were told that
[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_04] the lockdowns were completely fine and there'll be nothing wrong if you don't do that you're gonna kill grandmother and you're a conspiracy theorist the only thing between a conspiracy theory and the fact is you just wait six months exactly and what conspiracy theory is
[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_08] see progressive leftism is you're bigot if you believe that drag queen should have kids then you're exclusive
[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_08] it's the good old totalitarian stuff
[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_04] that's right please state your name and where you're from
[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_02] hi my name is Aubrey and I'm from Dream City but I've learned and heard through many people that Muslims are better equipped with arguments for Islam and against Christianity than Christians are I'll admit I don't know anything about Islam so what can we do to better equip ourselves with education about Islam and give ourselves arguments for Christianity it's a
[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_04] great question Aubrey it's really a good question we
[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_08] but going back it's very important I said before that pastors in the West are womanized and as a consequence they value love without intelligence so Islam is a man religion it's not a woman if you're a woman you're going to hate Islam that's why Andrew Tate is a Muslim how convenient like he loves sex he loves women he becomes a Muslim of course mate I'm like it's a perfect religion you get to be godly and immoral at the same time but the issue is
[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_08] that as we are becoming more Christology Jesus being fully man fully god number two the accuracy of the scripture I'm like their book is horrible it was written 600 years after the scripture and they claim it to be true talking about crazy
[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_08] you guys should be sued if we were around copyrights Mohammed would be sued because he copied the bible and changed so the first thing to attack is Christology fully man fully god that again pastors theology is cool again in case you didn't know it wasn't cool but being theologically sound I'm very passionate about that now because Islam is on the scene and a lot of people in England a lot of Christians are becoming Muslim because they haven't learned theological exegesis so the
[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_08] three topics that you need to learn and pastors you gotta teach number one is Christology Jesus being fully man fully god number two incarnation of Christia number two bibliology the accuracy of the scripture and how the Bible is not just spiritually a good book but practically a good book and thirdly is the doctrine of the trinity so the three theology
[00:58:27] [SPEAKER_04] is cool again and I will as a military strategy to consolidate power on the Arabian peninsula number two we really don't know much about Muhammad except what they kind of passed down in largely legend and folklore and in addition to what their scriptures say he was a war monger he was a pedophile by modern standards he was a
[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_04] polygamist he was not forgiving he was not merciful and then let's get that's important submission is the key aspect of Islam it is not about liberty and what is Christianity it is about liberty in Christ who sets you free from bondage free from wrestling with God to become something totally new to transform so those are three different world views right we were born out of a
[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_04] tradition of wrestling with God Christ sets you Islam is not that it's totalitarian in nature
[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_08] it's funny when you see now the freedom guys jumping on Islam like Andrew Tate oh the worst is so bad I'm like buddy you have not seen Islam see under the West or liberalism you get forced to take a vaccine under Islam you get forced to worship Mohammed
[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_04] and but I want to make sure and I know that you agree with this Andrew is that Islam is going to grow like a wildfire because it's so attractive because it has order it has rules and for a hyper feminized Western culture men love Islam especially black men we saw Malcolm X we saw Cassius Clay convert to Muhammad Ali Kareem Abdul-Jabbar that was the first wave of male black figures that were converting that slowed down in the 70s 80s and 90s but you guys
[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_04] remember all those black athletes that converted to Islam and it's attractive especially in today's time because there's no place for men to be men and Islam it's not men to be men it's men to be a tyrant Islam
[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_08] is the opposite of feminism okay so philosophically watch a Bambi movie watch Andrew Tate that's kind of the spectrum so what you're dealing with at the moment Christianity is the middle theologically philosophically Christianity is not oppressive unlike what feminists say I'm like you're crazy if you think you're being oppressed go to the Middle East for five days so it's very important you got feminism in one side pastors need to study feminism you got Islam
[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_08] love your wife same as Christ love the church and die for her and a wife so Christianity is actually the perfect idea
[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_04] that's exactly right beautiful all right next question great question Aubrey
[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_00] so not as a pastor but just as a regular person if I was what how do I enter
[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_04] I don't mind first do not tell them what you believe that's a bad way to start but I love your heart and we're going to help you out first find out what they believe people like talking about themselves you know what do you believe what happens when you die is there a God and you'll find entrance points but beyond all that and we can do a whole course on apologetics it's about relationships if you don't have a relationship with that person then the chances are for conversion holy spirit can do amazing things but relationship is the best way to
[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_04] witness is to pick up their kids when they're late at work or is to love on them show them the love of Christ and that is the best witness more than facts or biblical archaeology or that but the best way to witness is through being a living witness for Christ
[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_08] yeah and like I love to do that on the plane arguing with people but going back I did it on the way here actually she nearly got saved I think but going back I think the facts sooner or later they like this is awesome the lady was like this is
[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_08] awesome she was actually a radical leftist the lady that was next to me on the plane and then they go online I hate the guy but they work my magic on her but at the end I was like Lord
[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_08] give me the right thing you really need spiritual wisdom to say the right thing you don't want to be like an arguing machine like me but you do want the Holy Spirit to give the right word at the right time amen
[01:03:46] [SPEAKER_04] I
[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_01] are there others more like you in Australia because I have family in Australia and I want to know if we should put them in a different setting or
[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_08] get
[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_04] them out of the country
[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_06] yeah
[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_08] I don't know if I'm going to be here soon who knows like I don't I
[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_04] you are right
[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_08] wing
[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_04] and when I came we need you so badly in this country I'm going to do my best to get you out of that place Australia is a lost cause we need every freedom fighter we can
[01:04:40] [SPEAKER_09] by
[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_04] the way if you want to come here just fly to Mexico city get on a bus you can be here in two and a a no I am not kidding you get a cell phone benefits you get whatever you want I'm not kidding Mexico city bus border across the Rio Grand Valley this green card thing is a complete waste of time
[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_08] yeah from what I've seen I think there's two types of parts I've seen Australia those who tell me I'm a radical right wing guy which I didn't know that until two years ago I don't know me maybe
[01:05:20] [SPEAKER_04] Charlie you know anybody in Australia I don't know I have to ask Juergen I know he still dialogues with a couple people I don't know do you know anyone off the top I don't I don't know anyone
[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_08] because they tell me that they believe in that stuff but in public they will go I
[01:05:35] [SPEAKER_04] don't I think so yeah he's the last one final question
[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_07] thank you pastor for sharing your experiences my question is how would you define sin nature I mean it's hard enough for people to even define sin that's and I don't even ever hear sin nature ever define and based off your experiences and what you've witnessed how would you define sin nature
[01:06:05] [SPEAKER_08] I wouldn't define sin by experience I define sin by theology it's very very important the worst thing you ever want to do in your life is to define sin by experience because sin you are a sinful human being that's why work pastors always preach salvation without sin revival without repentance holy spirit without holiness so at the moment as a consequence you end up with a hype that looks like a revival but it
[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_08] being irreligious being ignorant being arrogant being prideful sin is a very multifaceted concept and the problem we have at the moment every church focuses on their favorite one relationship not religion I'm like actually sin literally means to be irreligious so I would say go to study the concept of sin from a systematic theology textbook and there's so many definitions you know to not know is a sin it's a very like I didn't know that me choosing
[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_08] to be ignorant of the facts is a sin to be irreligious you know how all this work pastors they always say Christianity is a relationship not a religion in the Bible being irreligious is a sin it means you don't have principles that's right
[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_04] yeah and in English there literally is the sin target so to be off of the target I'm going to emphasize what your second part of nature this is one of the most important things you can teach a child one of most important questions if you walk into a high school in Scottsdale Unified School District and you ask 50 kids
[01:07:54] [SPEAKER_04] 45 out of 50 will say that human beings are naturally good it is the most important civilizational defining question why because if you believe human beings are naturally good and you see a lot of suffering and evil you have to explain that and they explain it racism or homophobia or transphobia where we say no no no you got a soul problem
[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_04] from birth you have a sinful disposition now anyone who's raised children I it's built in to the nature now why is that important this is where it
[01:08:54] [SPEAKER_04] connects with the alphabet mafia because the alphabet mafia will say well if you're naturally good then being gay is naturally good therefore correction is evil it doesn't need correction
[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_08] see Christianity is the only theological framework that believes you're born a sinner even Islam doesn't believe that you're born a sinner this is
[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_04] very important that's
[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_08] correct this is very important you're not a sinner because you sin you sin because you're a sinner so the basic foundation of existence is you're a sinner that is why the LGBTQ sex religion versus Christianity the difference between the two that Christianity believes you must be born again the LGBTQ says you're born this way that Christianity says I am a sinner therefore I need to repent the LGBTQ sex religion says I am perfect the way I am the LGBTQ says that
[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_08] men as a man I need to become more of myself Christianity says I need to actually deny myself
[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_04] that
[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_08] is why the LGBTQ sex religion is very contrary to the gospel because they believe you're born this way you're perfect the way you are that tolerance is the best virtue in the world and more than anything they celebrate man becoming God Christianity celebrates God becoming man that is why we celebrate humility they celebrate pride
[01:10:17] [SPEAKER_04] and pride cometh before the fall give it up for Andrew how great was that tonight everybody give it up standing ovation
[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_09] thank you guys love you we'll
[01:10:32] [SPEAKER_04] see you guys at on April 10th we have a guest I've been trying to get for over a year she has composed a book lost in trans nation I don't believe she's a believer so I want to show her a really warm church welcome when she comes on April 10th she is the premier clinician on
[01:11:01] [SPEAKER_04] childhood transgender all of that she has written the book lost in trans nation you must come and bring a friend it will be so insightful she's clear she's a clear thinker she actually treats kids that are going through gender dysphoria she's not just an academic she's in the room treating it and she will show you a path forward show you how

