Thoughtcrime Flashback: The Fourth of July 2025

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I want to go and actually eat the rice with my hands on the subway itself, so that all the people around me get to feel and smell the festive aroma of my my rice and my slop and my my goo and my my sauce and slime out there I mean people. Okay, So people know that I have for a long time, and I know. 00:02:17 Speaker 4: That I've I've said this. 00:02:18 Speaker 3: Number of times on this show that I have a really like I have I have really weird uh really you know, angry responses when people don't you know, people make like eating sounds. 00:02:29 Speaker 1: Oh Jack's Jack gets really upset. 00:02:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I have like mesophonia, Like I had to like go off, I had to walk off the show a couple of weeks ago, and and yeah, something like no, what's what's youreing? 00:02:42 Speaker 4: Though? Is like something like. 00:02:43 Speaker 3: This wouldn't necessarily trigger it. It's more like the sounds or you know, if he was like stuffing his mouth too full or something like that. To me, this is just gross. This is just like normal gross behavior. But I've always been critical of people. A politician and uh, there was a dude, Paulave or whatever up in Canada who was chewing an apple like really loudly while he was miked up in that one interview a while ago. 00:03:08 Speaker 4: I couldn't stand that. When there was another guy with the. 00:03:11 Speaker 3: Uh you know, John Kasich just shoving shoveling you know, pizza into his mouth. 00:03:17 Speaker 4: Or Pete Boudhajet the way he was like he was eating I guess he was eating like drumsticks or something. 00:03:21 Speaker 3: This one video and he was at the Iowa State Heir and he was like shoving the entire drumstick in his mouth and opening his mouth as wide as possible to eat it. And I can remember this stuff because it really literally bothers me. 00:03:33 Speaker 4: That much. 00:03:34 Speaker 3: And so yeah, when when you look at something like this, it's just it's just discussed. Don't eat on camera. Just don't do it. If you're in politics, you know, just word to the wise, don't ever do something like this and trying to run in the United States of America. I mean, my gosh, you know we you know, we use utensils here. 00:03:52 Speaker 4: And by the way, like this guy grew up and I don't know, like. 00:03:55 Speaker 3: All of his background, he grew up rich, right, he is like his mom's like this famous yeahs who grew up rich. He went to all sorts of you know, like like a sixty thousand dollars a year. 00:04:07 Speaker 2: School. 00:04:08 Speaker 3: So I mean this is dad's an IVY League professor. So yeah, this idea that like oh yeah, no, it's a joke. He's obviously just doing this to say like, oh, I'm one of you. And in fact, earlier on the show today on Human Events, we were talking about how this is just another example of a Leninist who just like in the original version of Leninism, what did Leninism target? It used people to sort of LARPing as the working class, to claim that they were part of the proletariat. 00:04:42 Speaker 4: And what were they They were over. 00:04:45 Speaker 3: Educated sons and daughters, mainly sons obviously of upper class rich people who didn't have really anything better to do with their lives. So they said, oh, we're going to be this vanguard of the proletariat and we're going to take over all of Russia's urban centers. This is literally, if you look at his electorate, what he's been doing. So it's it's sort of a tie between the new arrivals, first generation immigrants, and the you know, sort of urban elite youth who are just sort of lackadaisical and and don't have anything better to do with their lives. That's now his electoral core. And it's the exact same electoral coalition that Vladimir Lenin used when communism was tried the first time around. 00:05:32 Speaker 1: So what is the most defensible part, Andrew, of his his thing is the fact that he's a Muslim, the fact that he's a socialist, the fact that he eats with his right with his hands, the fact that he's a phony, he's a foreigner. He wants to turn New York in the third world. 00:05:45 Speaker 5: Andrew, I mean, I actually want to hear Blake's take on this, but you did call me. I think it's that he's a total con man. He changes his accents, he LARPs as a working, you know, man, like one of the one of the people, and I think he just heaps disdain on our culture. I think all of those things are equally offensive. Not to mention, what Jack said really resonated with me. That he can't find anything better to do with his life because he's a rich kid son and a rich mom and dad, so he's the son of a wealthy family. 00:06:19 Speaker 2: Can't find anything better to do with his time. 00:06:21 Speaker 5: So he he acts like he's a man of the people, and he's really concerned about affordability. 00:06:25 Speaker 2: And really he's just a race Marxist. 00:06:28 Speaker 5: And the fact that this is working on such a large swath of even the New York electorate, I find highly offensive. 00:06:36 Speaker 2: And you know, I just think the. 00:06:39 Speaker 5: What I will tell you talking to people some of my friends and family that are not as political or plugged in, they don't understand why the eating with the hands thing is so offensive. But it is by far one of the most offensive things I think to our team and our people that are really plugged in. 00:06:59 Speaker 2: What's that who. 00:07:01 Speaker 4: Said that it's not that they don't understand. 00:07:03 Speaker 5: It, just some of my friends and family that are not as like, they're like, okay, so he eats like a like a foreigner. 00:07:09 Speaker 6: I'm like exactly, he eats like a little funny just because like we also eat with our bare hands all the time. 00:07:17 Speaker 1: Food that is designated for it, though, rice is like the most disgusting thing to be like slurping it into. 00:07:22 Speaker 6: Your Yeah, it's it's like like like curry and. 00:07:28 Speaker 1: You're in New York City. There's no lack of utensils. That's the whole point. 00:07:31 Speaker 6: No, Like, to me, what's most appalling about it, it's not so much that it's gross in and of itself. It's that it is fake, and more than just it being fake, like Ma'm Donnie is not. He's not fake in like a basic con man way that would almost be a little endearing. He's fake in like a creepy psychopathway and a thing about like psychopaths, like real legit manipulative, lacking in emotion, lacking, and empathy psychopaths who are extreamely common in radical left wing politics. They're often rated by observers as really authentic, so you'll hear all these takes like, oh, man, Donni, he's so authentic because he represents this like he's bringing this like pro worker platform, and like I look at Mam Donnie, and all I think is, like this guy is an obvious, scheming psychopath who he like, you could slightly change the inputs and this guy would decide a completely different political platform. Is how he could get to power. But he happens to have grown up in this world where radical far left politics is the way to do it, and he will adjust accordingly. So I'm almost not even as worried as some people that if he won he would necessarily do all of his agenda, because so much of his agenda I suspect is the means of assent, and like, once he's in power, he would be focused on like entrenching his power and like taking out perceived enemies. Like the problem would not so much be that we have a communist. 00:08:59 Speaker 4: Psycho communist movement. 00:09:00 Speaker 6: Yeah, the problem would be having a psychopath in power, not having a communist in power. That's how he comes off. To me, everything's so stage matter that fake accents. 00:09:09 Speaker 7: The fake third world. 00:09:10 Speaker 5: Is if you're struggling with cravings, bloating and stubborn weight gain. Your gut health is probably playing a bigger role than you think. 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Or you can call eight eight eight three one seven nine eight for up to fifty percent of that's eight eight eight three one seven nine two five eight for up to fifty percent off your order and free shipping. 00:11:10 Speaker 7: This has always been this is it? 00:11:12 Speaker 4: What you're talking about? 00:11:13 Speaker 3: Is my contention though, is that that is actually how communism works in reality in practice. Right, It's that the the this and I saw that like Fox News had this capitalism versus socialism, and here are the things that he's claiming for They always claim those things. Oh, we're gonna free stuff for everyone, it's gonna be great, But that's not actually what they want. 00:11:32 Speaker 4: What they want is all of the things blake that you are saying. 00:11:36 Speaker 3: So my the thesis, and this was the whole like like book that I wrote last year about this, was that the communists don't actually believe in communism. They just want to jump ahead to the subjugating their enemies and rewarding their friend's part. 00:11:49 Speaker 6: Yeah, and like that's why you'd end up with these like crappy state run grocery stores. This just be like it would be a way to yeah, like trench the authority and like the patronage that routes through him. He would be able to control who got the contract. He would be hurting rival nodes of power. Same thing with the rent freeze. That's like a way to again enhance his power, reduce everyone else's power, And it doesn't require the city to actually be nice in any way. One of the most toxic things about urban politics in particular actually is there's often a lot of reason to make the city worse because you drive out the people who oppose you, and there are going to be a diehard based that electume matter. 00:12:31 Speaker 7: It's super dark. 00:12:31 Speaker 6: But like that's for example, I think the original person this was coined for was a longtime mayor of Boston who kind of drove all he was like his base was Irish. This is when I you know, there was like a lot of Irish that was kind of like the core working class base in Boston, and he would like always win with Irish voters and he kind of just turned out a lot of the upper middle class that opposed him, but the Irish base would elect him, and he just got to the point where he could never lose. A more recent example Detroit. So Detroit was like fifty to fifty in the late sixties and they elected Coleman Young and Coleman Young was a horrible mayor of Detroit. But he was so horrible that he drove all the anti Coleman Young. 00:13:13 Speaker 1: People out of Detroit. Auburn Hills. 00:13:14 Speaker 6: Yeah, and he just became this like emperor of Detroit. And you know, even even if your city's a dump, being the mayor of the city that's a dump. 00:13:23 Speaker 7: Well we have to. 00:13:24 Speaker 1: Remember though, I mean, and Blake might have a different opinion here, he said something to chat, So I want you to defend it. But New York was really bad in the seventies and eighties. And you're like, well, even if it gets bad, it's not as bad as other cities. But New York does have a history of being a complete rat hole. Yes, like when Donald Trump first came out of the scene in like nineteen seventies, it was legitimate like prostitutes on almost every corner. It was a litter filled city. Yeah, the famous one was really bad. 00:13:55 Speaker 6: The infamous one is if you watch taxi Driver, Yes, taxi drivers like they're going to these like new theaters that are showing like dirty mowes. 00:14:01 Speaker 7: Those were in Times Square. 00:14:03 Speaker 4: You just had either INtime stripts movies. 00:14:05 Speaker 6: In Times Square. You could get mugged just walking out of one of those places. So let's let's just first take two. Let's just do two lessons here. Number one, it's a lesson that things in America can get better that they actually just because you're in a cycle declined as Mina has to. But number two, it goes that New York can also go back to that. But you're a little bit less convinced. But I look at London I'm like, Nope, a good city can be destroyed. So London, London can has definitely gone downhill, but it's never gone downhill nearly as bad as. 00:14:31 Speaker 7: New York did like New York. 00:14:32 Speaker 6: No, no, I agree they were doing, you know, burning down buildings. 00:14:35 Speaker 1: They had not gone back to where New York was. 00:14:37 Speaker 2: No. 00:14:38 Speaker 6: Just to give the scale of it, I think in its absolute worst year, which I think was nineteen ninety one, one of the sort of late eighties early nineties span, New York I think broke two thousand murders in a. 00:14:49 Speaker 1: Year, two thousands in comprehensible. 00:14:52 Speaker 6: Incomprehensible, I mean Chicago at its worst, which smaller city, of course, but Chicago had its worst I think hit five hundreds, like yeah, maybe like eight hundred and during one of the peak Floyd years. And then so imagine more than double that. 00:15:05 Speaker 1: But do you think that it's realistic that New York could get like how Boston was or Detroit where they just run people out and it starts to become a gutter. 00:15:13 Speaker 6: It's harder, you don't like, New York is more diverse, there's more like levers you have to work with, There's there's the Burrows. There's like a lot of entrenched groups that are really centered on New York. I think it would be hard, Like just as an example, you have you know, several hundred thousand like Orthodox Jews. I don't think they're going to get like turfed out terribly easily. A lot of their culture is like based there, So that's like a political bedrock. There's always people predicting that, like the financial institutions will leave New York, and it's like they're just like unkillable. 00:15:49 Speaker 1: Some are going to Miami, that some are some are or even just Jersey. 00:15:52 Speaker 6: But like the New York Stock Exchange is in New York, and there's clearly a lot of like cultural power to that. You can definitely New York worse. He can definitely drive a lot of people out of New York. He can definitely make it worse than the margins. 00:16:04 Speaker 7: You would have to make. 00:16:05 Speaker 6: It really, really really bad to get back into that death spiral of the seventies and eighties where it was just unlivably terrible in huge parts of the of the city. Another part of it is like New York's gotten very diverse, but like it's gotten divers with the groups that aren't necessarily like going to destroy the city like you have a lot. 00:16:26 Speaker 1: Of So here's Asian trivia question. Of all New York City voters, what borough has the most voters. 00:16:33 Speaker 7: The most voters. 00:16:36 Speaker 4: Queens? 00:16:37 Speaker 7: I think Brooklyn has the most people. 00:16:39 Speaker 2: Queen my guess. 00:16:41 Speaker 7: My guess would be probably Brooklyn. 00:16:43 Speaker 1: Because most people and queens I think I would have said, I would have said Manhattan. But so Brooklyn has thirty percent. It's the most populous borough by far, followed by Queens, very immigrant, very diverse. Manhattan is nineteen percent, the Bronx is fifteen percent, and then Staten Island is six percent, which Staten Island's like the Maga. 00:17:06 Speaker 6: I'm actually I would have not been surprised if Queens with somehow even behind Manhattan, just because there's so many immigrants. I wouldn't be surprised if the non citizen percentage was higher. But uh yeah, no, it's like it's the outer boroughs that decide these. I think Manhattan looms so large in the cultural consciousness that it dominates and people just sort of assume that's New York. But most of New York is just this vast sprawl of the Long Island Burrows in the Bronx and that will decide the way things go. 00:17:35 Speaker 1: So Andrew, how does this then impact politics nationally? We had Mark Calpern on the podcast and he said that Democrats are worried that he's going to become the poster child of all Democrat politics across the country. 00:17:49 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that, you know, I think that we don't know first of all, but I would say that I sort of agree with some of the things Blake has said that that is, this is now out in the open. He is the test case of whether or not a far left socialist or communist can just be out with his public opinions, seizing the means of production, which is straight out of the Marks playbook. You are going full anti whitey right, You're going We're going to tax, wider neighborhoods, globalize, the Intifada, all of these things he's just now out and proud with. But you also made this point with Mark that this has been going on really since Occupy Wall Street movement. But then Bernie Sanders won the Bernie Sanders won the twenty sixteen primary Democrat primary. You have to understand the modern Democrat Party is a socialist party. If not largely a communist party. So that's what we're up against. There is institutional backing for these things. And if he proves that he can win by being out and proud with this stuff, then guess what all the Democrats, lablishment Democrats that have have said these things maybe behind closed doors, are now going to start saying this in public. So this these people really believe this. I think that you also made a really interesting point about how our nation is that the inequality gap between the really really rich and the really really poor is growing, and that creates an opening for the Mom Donnis of the world. And I think that's a you cannot overlook that, and you cannot overlook the fact that that these ideas, while tried and tested and have been proven failures throughout history, that a whole new generation of Americans are not going to simply embrace them because either they want to see everything burned down or they believe the lies that it's never really been tried before, and that Mom Donnie's he's just a really good guy, so he's gonna he's gonna be the one that finally gets this right. I I'm to be honest, I think we're in a really dangerous place. And just because we had an election win in twenty twenty four, I I we could this can all slip away very quickly, and we could we could see New York as the. 00:20:00 Speaker 2: Precursor of things to come. 00:20:01 Speaker 5: Now, yeah, he's gonna present a foil and we have to win. We have to win that argument in the public square. But it's gonna be a real challenge. I'm I think I'm going into this wide eyed. I don't think he's just some clown that's gonna be easy. 00:20:15 Speaker 1: He's got real talent, and I agree with Blake. I think there's something psychopathic about him. 00:20:22 Speaker 5: This is the month we celebrate our independence as a country, and real Americans know that there is no liberty or pursuit of happiness without life. Preborn celebrates life every single day by providing ultrasounds so that girls and women will have the truth of what's happening in their bodies and then they can make the best choice. 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I'd be so honored if you'd prayerfully consider joining us. 00:21:35 Speaker 1: But Blake, I'm sorry, Jack. Let's go a level deeper. Jack. Here's my advice, both privately and publicly, to the Trump political team, to anyone that wants to run for president in twenty twenty eight. Here is my advice. And I tell them this. I say the following I say, if we do not start to rebuild the American middle class and build an economy of owners, you are going to get hundreds of mom Donnies across the country. Inequality, price of living, economic is actually what is driving this lunatic Like I'm happy to talk about the fact he's Muslim, people are afraid to talk about I'm a hat fact. I'm happy to talk in fact the third worlder. But he does have an emphasis and a focus on economics. I want you to answer that question. And then Angelo, while we're doing this, can you get the cut of Mamdani saying he wouldn't visit a foreign country because I want to talk about that second. But first, Blake Jack, I want you to focus on what does it mean if we do not if we do not have a middle class economy, again, what would that mean for our national politics. 00:22:31 Speaker 3: So, Charlie, here's what's going on in the populist movement and why populism is on the rise. 00:22:37 Speaker 4: Populism is on the rise. 00:22:38 Speaker 3: Go back to the very very very initial start of the Tea Party, which you can say is the rise of the populist right, and then Occupy Wall Street was the rise of the populist left. He got twenty eleven twenty twelve right around the same timeframe, but all of which was happening in the wake of what it was happening in the wake of, or not even prior to excuse me, the Tea Party was twenty two thousand, nine ten, and so it. 00:23:02 Speaker 4: Was the ball. 00:23:03 Speaker 3: It was the bailouts, right, the bailout, the massive bank bailouts of the global financial crisis. And then Rick Santilly gets up on CNBC and says, they are they are. 00:23:15 Speaker 4: Screwing you over. 00:23:16 Speaker 3: Everyone who's a homeowner, They're screwing you over, and they're going to sell out your or they're going to help out your big banks. Those guys are going to get these massive bailouts from government. 00:23:27 Speaker 4: And George W. Bush, in a clip, by. 00:23:30 Speaker 3: The way, that has been almost completely scrubbed. 00:23:33 Speaker 4: From the internet. 00:23:34 Speaker 3: I was able to track it down a couple of months ago, but a clip that's almost completely scrub says we're going to use socialism to save capitalism. 00:23:41 Speaker 4: I use socialism to save capitulity. Everything from that point on. 00:23:46 Speaker 3: Has led to this massive infusion of through what you call it quantitative easing whatever, this huge money printing that's happened has created massive wealth disparities in the United States. Now you can call me whatever you want kind of names. Oh you'revative. We're not supposed to be talking about wealth inequality. Well it's true, Okay, it's just true. So people can see that those at the top are getting massively wealthy and are exorbitantly just taking off and skyrocketing off into the Solar system literally in the case of Jeff Bezos. At one point, remember Jeff Bezos, during the during the COVID lockdowns, during the pandemic, was flying around conducting an orbit of the planet while everyone else was locked down on you know, on Earth. This was like the plot of a bad sci fi movie with Matt Damon, and it generated a lot of ill will towards what we call the billionaires and millionaires or the capitalist class, whatever you want to call it, Okay. And so the way that the populace right wants to address this problem through President Trump, through populist nationalism through America first is to say, hey, we don't disparage success, but what we want is for all all tides, all boats to ride with that rising tide. 00:25:01 Speaker 4: We want to increase the floor. 00:25:02 Speaker 3: We want to raise the floor, the level of that up for lower class, working class and then middle class so and allow people, by the way, access to that middle class lifestyle that they've been trying to do. And particularly you see this with young voters. What the populace left wants to do is they want to take this situation. And by the way, these numbers are growing, they're growing across the country and there's a lot of people. This is what generates, by the way, the intergenerational conflict that you see between zoomers and baby boomers right now, which is massive and absolutely real. And if anyone who doesn't believe that, so, I mean, you're just you're just not paying attention. 00:25:36 Speaker 4: Charlie. You see this. 00:25:37 Speaker 3: I'm sure a ton on campus. But what the populace left wants is Luigi Maggioni. They want Luigi Maggioni to come in and just start taking out just started taking out the. 00:25:52 Speaker 2: All right, that was the thing on my on my end. 00:25:55 Speaker 3: Now that was I think aoc actually just popped up on the on the screen there she's so angry. So the populist left, they want Luigi Maggioni. They want people to start tearing them apart, and they want to tear down everything that these CEOs and and. 00:26:13 Speaker 4: Billionaires and wealthy. 00:26:14 Speaker 3: Have, And so you're really left with two viable political options. One viable option is the path of Maga, the path of the populist right, to say we can do this, and we can we can settle these issues in a way that's you know, to use the phrase equitable for all. Or you can go to the populist left route and the populist left route. It's it's amazing because you've got Zora Mandami and Luigi Maggioni. This takes place in the same city, right, So Luigi Maggioni just committed a street execution of a CEO on the streets of New York City, the same city where Zora Mandani, who is preaching the very same you know. 00:26:54 Speaker 4: Rhetoric that Luigi did. 00:26:57 Speaker 3: You know, comes in and says, well, we can do this by you know, by a election, and we could do this. 00:27:00 Speaker 4: By law, but the pressures don't go away. 00:27:03 Speaker 3: What you've really got are kind of the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks. One who wants to do it in an electoral way, one who wants to do it in a absolute tear down and kill the rich sort of way. But either way, Charlie, for anyone who wants to run in twenty twenty eight, they absolutely have to understand that these pressures are real. They're not going any they're not going away. And when you look at the working class in the swing states that we need, particularly the Ross Belt, so western Pennsylvania then up into Michigan and Wisconsin, states that even though Romney and Paul Ryan were from these states, they could never win them because they had no idea how to actually talk to the working class of those states. And if you don't do that, you are going to lose. And if you start putting things and distractions and side quests ahead of the main quest getting rid of the illegals and helping the economy here at home, then guess what they are going to go in for, whatever snake oil the sociopaths of the communist Marxists are going to offer. 00:28:08 Speaker 5: If you could go back in time and buy oil before the world relied on it, would you? Of course you would, anybody would, So why aren't you buying silver right now? 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I think people are probably giving this too much credit, but it is a showing of Mom Donnie wanting to prioritize New York. Now people they viewed this as an anti Israel sentiment, which, of course Mam Donnie hates, you know, Israel and probably hates Jews and globalizing and fatada, all that stuff that's into intofada. But I think it is important because I'm going to use this clip as a way to explain gen Z politics in a way that is flummixing a lot of our older audience. And then I'll throw it to Blake play cut three ninety six. 00:29:41 Speaker 8: So Mom, Donnie, can I just jump in? 00:29:43 Speaker 9: Would you visit Israel? 00:29:46 Speaker 2: Mayor? 00:29:46 Speaker 9: I've said in a UJA questionnaire that I believe that you need not travel to Israel to stand up for Jewish New Yorkers, and that is what I will be doing as the mayor. I'll be standing up for Jewish New Yorkers and I'll be meeting them wherever they are across the Five boroughs, whether that's in their synagogues and temples, or at their homes or at the subway platform, because ultimately we need to focus on delivering on their concerns. Yes, no, no, do you believe in a Jewish state of Israel? I believe Israel has the rights to exist as a Jewish state, as a state with equal rights her Jewish state. 00:30:19 Speaker 7: And his answer was no, he won't visit Israel. 00:30:24 Speaker 9: No, no, no, Unlike you unlike you, I answer directly, I believe every state should be a state of equal rights. 00:30:30 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you. Okay, so this is important in the chat genius answer brilliant. So is it stupid question to ask? You're this? You're the mayor of New York City. You're not going to be dealing with foreign affairs. But there are a lot of Jews and muslim in your city. Let me tell you why this resonated with a lot of gen zers. And then, Blake, I want you to explain the clip more than comment on it, which is there is this trend with younger voters saying our country is falling apart, we can't afford basic necessities, houses are out of reach. Stop with the foreign pandering, whatever country it might be. And look, I'm proseral obviously, I'm explaining. Therefore, why don't we have someone that is obsessed with us, obsessed with what's local, what's immediate, not what is abstract and foreign? 00:31:15 Speaker 6: Blake, exactly, And I think you see some awareness of this. A few months ago, we had that viral clip with Ilhan Omar where she was saying in Somali like I am, you know, the lawmaker for Somali's I will look out for Somali interests and then like that. 00:31:32 Speaker 7: Clip, it was so insane. It was like he he could have scripted that. 00:31:36 Speaker 6: It was so perfect for him, where he has this circular squad of people like needling him and bullying him, like why won't you take this opinion on a foreign country whether you agree with that take on the foreign country or not. Why is a guy running for mayor being browbeaten about whether he will endorse the particular status of a foreign state thousands of miles away. 00:32:03 Speaker 7: And it was so easy for. 00:32:05 Speaker 6: So many million well I don't want to say this, thousands of New Yorkers to look at that and be like, holy cow. Everyone else running in this race is obsessed with these like like identity issues revolving around a. 00:32:19 Speaker 7: Foreign state, a foreign conflict. 00:32:21 Speaker 6: And it was so easy for him to come out and say, actually, I will put new York first, a novel idea, I will not go on foreign trips. I will be focused on actual things relevant to New Yorkers. It just incredibly easy political layup for this guy. 00:32:37 Speaker 1: So, Andrew, can you help explain this to our audience, which is that some older folks say they would have thought, Mom, Donnie gave a terrible answer. Oh my goodness, he'd said he would not visit a foreign country or visit Israel, when in reality, younger people loved it, not necessarily because they hate Israel, but there's some vibe or aura to that which's like, no, I care about New York City. Can you help explain that for those that might not quite capture what is animating the under thirty crowd. 00:33:07 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the generational divide, Charlie is so extreme, and it's very, very hard to explain this to like boomers or older folks. No disrespect, it's just the generational sea change I think is more dramatic than any of my over fifty friends understand or realize. If you are under a certain age, especially under thirty, but even if you're under forty forty five, you're sick of the You're sick of feeling like America has to be drawn into foreign conflicts because of Israel that are our alignment with Israel from a foreign policy standpoint. There's a belief that it's caused more harm than good, and a lot of people are sympathetic to Israel, even in that sub forty category. They just don't want to feel so attached to the hip, and they don't like when politicians signal that they're marching in lockstep with whatever. Net and yah who says, and and that is it is. Honestly, this is a movement, Charlie. That was that in some ways Trump helped start and ignite and and change the way that we look at our foreign politics versus our domestic politics and people. I think there is a broad realization on the left and the right that we have real problems here in the in the United States, and we got to deal with those, and we have to stop getting distracted by foreign wars, foreign involvements, engagements, and distractions, and that it doesn't mean those things aren't important. I think Trump has showed us a way that there is a third way, right, you don't have to get trapped ideologically or on the debate stage into these false binaries, and that you can say, listen, I just love America more and I want to focus on this and to the extent that we can solve foreign entanglements quickly, easily or violently. 00:34:52 Speaker 2: Those have to be quick. That's the that's the key. 00:34:55 Speaker 5: And I just want to reiterate Charlie Like, if there is a divide that I have seen that is more stark than anything, is the generational divide on Israel. 00:35:06 Speaker 1: Jack, do you want to comment on that. 00:35:09 Speaker 4: I mean, it's just true. 00:35:10 Speaker 3: It's it's something where you know it. It's generational, that's for sure. It's it also comes down, I think, to a variety of fact. There's people getting their media from different places. So if you're someone who watches you know, on that specific on specifically the Israel question, if you're someone who watches TV, you know, you're you're looking at images of you know, politicians, and you're hearing people give speeches, you're going on TikTok, you're seeing up until the ceasefire, of course, you're just seeing images of this parade of horribles out of Gaza, and it's just over and over and oversee it on X as well, and it's something that kind of galvanizes you. And then you hear, wait a minute, you know my tax dollars are involved in this. I'm not I'm not making an argument here. I'm just sort of explaining the way that gen Z when I when I talk to you, how they seem to respond to it. They say, wait a minute, why are my tax dollars going to fund some some war in a place that I've never visited against a group of people that doesn't affect me in any way whatsoever versus and I can't afford basic food, and I can't afford rent, and I can't afford to be able to own a home, or if I can't get married and have kids and do all of these things. And that's something that cuts across party lines. That's something that affects people very deeply because these are pocketbook issues, these are wallet issues, and so people want to know why it is that the United States of America or politicians, right, they sort of just look at it as politicians. Oh well, they don't care because they just want to do everything to serve the baby boomers, and the baby boomers want to watch whatever is a better TV show on cable news. 00:36:49 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, it feels to me. 00:36:54 Speaker 3: And again like I'm not a zoomer, but I've when I talk to zoomers about this, they say, I just don't feel like I'm hurt. I feel like I'm told to shut up. I feel like I'm told that, oh, I either need to pull myself up by my bootstraps, or I get labeled anti Semitic, or I get labeled you know, some some bigoted zeladad you know, zeladd Anti whatever, you know kind of name, and it's like, no, it's just I see some I see my government working on behalf of people all around that such as is real. But it's all around the world, all the usaid and stuff that was going on, and a lot of these same forces, you know, a lot of these same pressures are the same things that President Trump and his direct popularity came from. Was by saying that we will be able to present a an opinion and present a solution to all of these problems, by saying we're going to put America first, which means putting Americans first. 00:37:49 Speaker 4: And this was even in the wake of the you know, tens of. 00:37:52 Speaker 3: Millions in paletts of cash to Iran or you know, giving billions to Afghanistan for a government that was just going to collapse and hand it over to the Taliban again and again and again. The trillions of dollars spent in the Middle East. That's what led to the rise of President Trump in the first place. And my own worry though, is that if these same issues aren't dealt with, then you're gonna get people like a Mamdani or a Luigi Maggioni or others that are going to come up and use them to go in a very different direction. 00:38:28 Speaker 5: Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. 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Yes, all right, so this is very fun. Let's get right into it because we have the hard stop. So the four Am Club. This got attention last I think last week from the Free Press. It's been going a while. 00:39:39 Speaker 10: Uh. 00:39:40 Speaker 6: Basically, let's just we just have to play at play three seventy. 00:39:44 Speaker 11: Six left wing version of QAnon is here and they believe that Kamala Harris really won the election. This group is called the four Am Club. 00:39:51 Speaker 5: Basically, on November six, thousands of people were woken up around four am and those people were called to anchor in the higher timeline where Kamala was the. 00:40:00 Speaker 10: The call was sent out and we received it. 00:40:03 Speaker 11: It was founded by this woman who goes by geaprism on TikTok. 00:40:07 Speaker 10: I am a psychic medium, I'm a healer. 00:40:10 Speaker 11: She sort of gives downloads as she calls them from spirit. 00:40:13 Speaker 10: This contest wasn't right. We will yet get a different result. In the end, I was shown him falling from something to do with blood on the brain. Okay, I'm seeing lower level leaders will be removed before the top ones. 00:40:28 Speaker 11: It bears a striking resemblance to QAnon, except everything has been feminized. Instead of searching through reddit boards and eight chan to find what they're looking for, they go deep within themselves, trusting their feminine intuition, their gut, the divine goddess. The four Am Clubbers I don't think are going to be scaling the capital anytime soon, but I do think they represent the next chapter in the story of political conspiracies. It shows that the American population feels both completely out of control and lied to. 00:40:56 Speaker 7: Well. 00:40:56 Speaker 1: First of all, uh, that was great reporting, but that was bare life his sister. It was really well done. 00:41:02 Speaker 2: Amazing. 00:41:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, Barry wife's sister, what's your name, Susie Wis So credit to her. That was a really well put together summary in honestly kind of based being like the feminine intuition. Like, it was really good. So, uh, credit to her. I hope to have her on the show. Blake, I'll start with you, because you were just losing it in the midst of this. 00:41:19 Speaker 7: It's just it really is. 00:41:20 Speaker 6: So I've obviously, you know, I've always been a fan of some reading some of that strange stuff. You love real raw news that like weird you know, military tribunal stuff, which is still going by the way, they're they're loving the Alligator trib thing. All of the all of the deep staters are going to Alligator Alcatraz. They'll be executed there, sure, sure enough on real raw. 00:41:38 Speaker 7: News all that strange stuff. But yeah, like this, how. 00:41:40 Speaker 6: It's the perfect mirror image where it incorporates all the like left wing ways, so like it's a vibe. If anything, it's almost it's a lot like that Mendela effect thing. 00:41:49 Speaker 7: Have you heard about this? 00:41:51 Speaker 1: Oh, the Mendela's inch. That's really interesting. So you don't like. 00:41:55 Speaker 6: It, well, I think it's sort of silly because some people really believe in it when well. 00:41:59 Speaker 1: Hold on, But there is something. Do you not misremember things from your child? 00:42:02 Speaker 7: People do? 00:42:03 Speaker 1: Why is it that other people also misremember what you misremember? 00:42:06 Speaker 7: Because it's an easy thing to misremember. 00:42:08 Speaker 2: Like the Fruit of the Loom one is. 00:42:11 Speaker 7: I think there's through the Loom one is the one. 00:42:15 Speaker 4: I'm militant on this. 00:42:16 Speaker 6: The Fruit of the Loom one is just because there's like a different company that had a cornucopia in it, and people think of that. 00:42:23 Speaker 1: By the way, and it was the Berenstein. 00:42:26 Speaker 6: Like, that's another example where they all think it's been Stein bears because Stein with E I N is way more common. 00:42:32 Speaker 7: There's a ton of steams out there. 00:42:33 Speaker 1: I'm not even saying saying talking. There's something going on. There's something to this. I don't know what it is. 00:42:40 Speaker 6: So this is this four Am club fits in so perfectly where they're like there they basically have this like this feeling and it can't just be oh, I had a. 00:42:51 Speaker 1: Feeling field and we have evidence that we all agree, Like that's different. We don't have evidence, no meaning, we all we all have a memory of something that's different than like I woke up and I think Kamala's president. But keep going. It's totally you know. 00:43:06 Speaker 7: I feel like, actually, what we should do. 00:43:07 Speaker 6: We should play the follow up clip where they really get into this because I just love it. 00:43:10 Speaker 7: It's they think. 00:43:11 Speaker 6: We're merging with like a new timeline, like we're in the wrong timeline and we've got to return to. 00:43:18 Speaker 5: Like can we throw up the four hundred fruit of the loom the cornercopia because this one just blew my mind. So they say that it's always been the left one, but everybody seems to remember the cornicopia copia. I I completely remember the cornucopia. I think it's a marketing ploy to make them relevant again, that's what I think. 00:43:41 Speaker 7: It is admitted I know, but I didn't. 00:43:45 Speaker 1: I remember the corn I could tell you there was a cornicopia. That no, I'm telling you right now. The cornucopia is legit. We're being lined. 00:43:52 Speaker 6: Apparently the old logo had brown leaves in it, and that's what people kind of thought it was a cornucopia. 00:43:58 Speaker 3: That no, it's it's not like I thought it was a cornucopia. It was that cornucopia. Like that's it right there. 00:44:06 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure you can like find old clothes with the cornucopia on it. 00:44:11 Speaker 1: A hundred yeah. 00:44:12 Speaker 2: See, look at my mom. 00:44:14 Speaker 3: Has actually been going through like some of our old home videos. I wonder like from when I was a kid. I wonder if and like you know, Dick digitizing him and stuff. So I want to see if maybe we can like maybe we can test this and see if there's you know, like a logo or something, because I remember having one when I was in like grade, you know, maybe kindergarten, preschool or something. But I feel like it's I feel like that's where I remember the word cornucopia, right, you learn I guess. 00:44:39 Speaker 7: Around that we all learned it. 00:44:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, like what is that? 00:44:41 Speaker 3: Hey? 00:44:42 Speaker 7: What is that? 00:44:42 Speaker 10: Oh? 00:44:42 Speaker 4: That's a cornucopia? What's a cornucopia? And then you just say it. 00:44:48 Speaker 6: I feel we should play the other clip of this just because it really does get into how like lupy they are. 00:44:53 Speaker 7: So this is Gia prism. She's like the. 00:44:54 Speaker 6: Face of the four Am Club. Uh, really getting into it has to be seen, you believably. Let's play three eighty six. 00:45:02 Speaker 10: We were woken up in the night eerily around four am. I've read every single one of those comments, and here I'm going to tell you what it all means. The short of it is, we were called to anchor in the same timeline. So many people are saying I'm on the wrong timeline. You will no, here's the truth. The higher timeline where the divine feminine anchors in does include a supposed election of the male candidate. I'm going to say his name because his corruption needs to be revealed, and it needs to be so massive, so undeniable, and so chaotic that people who have been fooled by him can finally wake up and come out of the spell. So here's the overview of what people were experiencing. Some of us were woken up with the feeling of dread, some of us were physically vomiting purging, others were just in fear and panic. And then on the other side of things, you had people who were woken up from dreams where they saw her winning, where they heard her winning, where they saw certain states flip and go blue, where they saw a map of the United States. So many of us were tuned into the timeline that Kamala Harris is the winner. And there's another subset of people who were actually feeling the energies and who were repeating mantras energies. 00:46:17 Speaker 6: There's actually so it is so much like a combination of like QAnon and the Mendel effect, because the Mendel effect part of the theory is that it was like that in the past, and we had the timeline shift. A lot of them fixate on nine to eleven, like after nine to eleven, the timeline shifted because it was such a dramatic event. Right, Yes, that's a common part of it. And then of course the QAnon version is, you know, the trust the plan thing like all that's the secret. Military tribunals are happening, but like we're not ready. It had to like people had to be ready to accept what was going on. They wouldn't believe it if they just did it, so you have to, you know, wait. And it's like that where we had to let this happen because people wouldn't accept how corrupt Trump was unless he was allowed to win, and we got a temporary delving into that corrupt timeline reality. 00:47:08 Speaker 2: Blah. 00:47:11 Speaker 5: Angel Studios has a new feature film that is a must see and I really really mean it. This film tells the untold story of George Washington before he was a general or a president. At just twenty years old, Washington faced crushing failures, near death experiences, and pivotal moments that forge the courage, the character, and the leadership that would one day shape the United States. Angel Studios and Wonder Project have joined forces to bring you a high quality production that doesn't erase the values that made George Washington who he was. 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I know Jack really agrees with this, so that the feminine is the higher No. 00:49:31 Speaker 3: I I totally believe the four Am Club. I believe the four Am Club. I one hundred percent agree with everything they're saying. I'm some and so I'm a Christian, so I believe in the supernatural. I believe in obviously different timelines and different dimensions in that sense, you know, a higher, higher plane, lower plane that they're talking about, because as a Christian we're called to believe these things because that's what the Bible is about, and so when when when they talk about it, though, it's just they've got their order mixed up, because that's a lower timeline that they're talking about where Kamala Harris is able to become president and unleashes these demonic energies of communism across the world. As it turns out, the true timeline is the timeline that reverted into place. And so we were on a trajectory where perhaps we were in this false timeline created you know, you could say at some point in twenty twenty or whatever, but now we're back into base reality. So they were heading trying to put us in this false reality where again and so many people could look around and see evidence of the false reality all around you. Lies were treated as truth, up was treated as down. Men were called women, women were called men. This is all emblematic of a false reality that they were trying to impose upon true reality. 00:50:48 Speaker 4: So we reverted back. 00:50:49 Speaker 3: That's what they're upset about, and what they felt regarding these, you know, regarding these timeline shifts, was actually the shift back to the true reality, which. 00:51:00 Speaker 4: Is base reality. And as we all know, bas reality. 00:51:03 Speaker 6: Is based what if we were in the false timeline. But Shinzo Abbe was fighting in the spiritual realm because we know him and Trump were friends, and so we were headed towards the bad timeline. But then Shinzo Abbe saved Trump's life in. 00:51:20 Speaker 4: Butler p July thirteenth. 00:51:22 Speaker 6: You've seen this, right, Charlie, like the idea that I think that's why he turned his head. So I heard the whisper of an old friend. Maybe that maybe that's what timeline. 00:51:30 Speaker 4: That is Cannon what I believe. 00:51:34 Speaker 7: It's a funny meme in and of itself. 00:51:35 Speaker 6: But what's genuinely heartwarming is Japanese people are aware of this and like find it extremely extremely heartwarming that Americans came up with this idea, and like they make all these like affectionate like Shinzo Abbe Donald Trump best friend forever images that you can find on. 00:51:52 Speaker 1: His guardian angel. He is the guard watch. 00:51:55 Speaker 4: I'll watch the skies, I'll watch the streets. 00:52:00 Speaker 1: I missed the Abbe Trump like look right there, see there's Shinzo looking over Trump on July thirteenth. 00:52:07 Speaker 3: But there's whole things about this. No, Donald, you must turn this is not your time. And then it's like shinzo Abbe, the one longer one. It's like he's got a katana blade and he like hits the bullet out of mid air. 00:52:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, four O six it is and uh. 00:52:25 Speaker 3: And and and it's you know, Donald, why did you why did you why did you suddenly turn your head? And he said, you know, for a moment, I thought I heard the voice, the sound of the voice of an old friend. 00:52:37 Speaker 1: And that's so good. 00:52:38 Speaker 6: This is this is this is our spiritual energy stuff is so much better. But it's also there's a joke, and the left is just like I woke up and I was I was vomiting because nothing, you know, live women apparently need a reason to you know, puke into the toilet all the time, and that it had to be because the timelines wrong. We're just like no, obviously shinzo Abe came into They have this best friend that's like a way cooler thing than like the divine feminine energy. It's like, sorry, sorry, sorry, liberal ladies. This the right is better at coming up with funny spiritual woo wo. 00:53:10 Speaker 1: I love it. Final final thoughts here Andrew four Am Club and you can throw Mandela Effect in there if you want. 00:53:19 Speaker 2: Well, I actually have a final thought. 00:53:21 Speaker 5: I mean, I wanted to play this video because I thought it was great. I don't know if we have time, but you know, there really is two pass before the American population, Mom, Donnie Luigi this you know, this terrifying kind of vigilanteism, coercion, far far left wing revolution, or you get kind of this national populism, conservative populism of Trump, the Maga movement. You have two routes in front of you. One wants to burn it all down and destroy everything and destroy wealth and sees it all and the other is gonna take some tough medicine. But we're gonna get to the other side, and it's going to actually reset. If we're going to talk about timelines, it's going to reset the American timeline and put it back on solid footing. 00:54:04 Speaker 2: I really believe that. 00:54:05 Speaker 5: And so hopefully our people have enough virtue and common sense and wisdom and understanding of history to choose the right path. And I think New York is gonna be a really interesting test case, but a scary one. Hopefully we we we we. 00:54:21 Speaker 2: Make it out the other side. 00:54:23 Speaker 1: Last thought, Jack. 00:54:24 Speaker 3: No, I completely agree and and unfortunately, even with all of the good that we've done, all of the. 00:54:31 Speaker 2: Good that did a little bit that. 00:54:33 Speaker 3: You know that we've done, but the massive amount that President Trump and his movement have done, getting on visionary leaders like JD. Vance and so many others. These are huge problems. There are problems that still remain, and in pockets of the country like New York, they are incontrovertible that it is going on and they are these pressures are leading to these outcomes. So President Trump faces before him a very serious threat. And of course it's New York City, right think about this. So I mentioned Luigi Maggioni, and I mentioned Zori Mamdani. But one thing that we haven't pointed out here is that New York City is the same exact city that produced Donald Trump himself. 00:55:18 Speaker 1: Uh. 00:55:18 Speaker 3: And so the fact that you know it really is New York, our greatest city that's leading to all of these changes that affects the entire nation, then perhaps we should actually fight for it, and we should actually fight for the great things that we've created as an American civilization. And I think if there's anything that you want to say on going into the fourth of July, it's. 00:55:40 Speaker 1: That have a great independence toy. Everybody. We have to dash blake final thoughts ten seconds. 00:55:45 Speaker 6: Ah no, no, I'm just I'm just going we'll come up with next time you wake up at four am. 00:55:54 Speaker 1: Remember, you might get a vision that Kamala is president. Reject it and live in reality. You have to reject it or we might get consumed by that reality, get sucked into the vortex. 00:56:03 Speaker 7: You have to win the spiritual war. 00:56:06 Speaker 1: Bears forever. Don't believe the lies and the cornycope is real. We are being like Mandela Effect. Next stop crass you see. 00:56:17 Speaker 6: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com