THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 150 — Thinking With Your Huang? Are Comic Book Movies Saved? Does It Count?

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We needed a fifth person, Jack, because we needed someone who loves comic book movies almost as much as you. No, no, no. 00:01:50 Speaker 4: That will come up. 00:01:51 Speaker 1: That's definitely me. 00:01:54 Speaker 5: No, Russ has been pushing for a specific topic this week, which I don't think is our first topic, but we're going to get. 00:02:02 Speaker 4: There, and you will see why Russ is here. Russ, that's not a jacket, is it? 00:02:05 Speaker 1: No, it's a flannel. 00:02:08 Speaker 4: Okay, because I saw a collar, and I wasn't sure. 00:02:10 Speaker 1: I mean, my brain knows you're wearing a shirt, Jack, but looking at you through the camera, it kind of looks to me like a karate gi. 00:02:21 Speaker 4: What makes you think it's not a karate geek? 00:02:24 Speaker 1: I feel in my head it's probably not, although I guess you never know. You could just do Karate Master. 00:02:30 Speaker 5: Maybe I'm about to go to Shotokan Warrior Challenge tonight. 00:02:34 Speaker 1: Oh, I did forget about that. Shotokan Warrior Challenge. I'm an idiot. 00:02:38 Speaker 4: Maybe Kumagai is coming up again. Maybe it's the Kumagai tonight. 00:02:42 Speaker 1: It's conversations like this that make me think that I'm not the nerdiest. Jack, what's the most fights in a row you've won at an underground kickboxing tournament? 00:02:52 Speaker 4: You know, I'm not at liberty to say. 00:02:54 Speaker 5: However, it is definitely, you know, it's basically I'm one, you know, I got like the Baker's dozen, but there were some disqualifications. 00:03:04 Speaker 4: There are some questions about that 13th one. 00:03:06 Speaker 6: All right. 00:03:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard about that sort of thing. How about you, Tyler? Have you ever won any underground kickboxing fights? I have watched kickboxing fights. I actually have told this story. 00:03:15 Speaker 7: I actually told it when we were, didn't I tell the story about the guy that I watched in Russia? these kickboxing kids like kill. 00:03:23 Speaker 1: Each other dang i mean we gotta be ready you saw it happen this is so so this is a this i'm gonna abbreviate the story like super abbreviate it but basically we were playing basketball every day with these russian kids and russians don't have weapons by. 00:03:37 Speaker 8: The way for the audience wondering why the heck tyler is in russia i served a mission he was he was a mission he was on a mission. 00:03:43 Speaker 7: I was on russia and so so they wanted to play the american guys and we would dominate them like i'd suck. 00:03:49 Speaker 1: The basketball not a spy mission that's what they would say that's what i would destroy. 00:03:54 Speaker 7: These russians on the on the schoolyard grounds every day anyway so we became friendly with them but we actually accidentally became friends with like two rivaling gangs we didn't realize it and one day we were walking back and they were like beefing out on the and then all of a sudden and these kids were all this is where kickboxing comes in All these kids are obsessed with kickboxing. So they would just beat the crap out of each other every day, kickboxing. Because apparently there's nothing else to do in Russia. Also, we see this one kid just running. 00:04:21 Speaker 1: Straight at us. He's like, get out of the way, dudes. Get out of the way. And we get out of the way. And he runs. 00:04:26 Speaker 7: And he just, from behind, clocks this kid from behind. And so we run up into the stairwell and watch the stairwell. kid gets on him, beats the. 00:04:35 Speaker 1: Until he dies. Dang. Really? And I knew both the kids. We knew both the kids, and we're like, oh my god. Did anything happen? Did anything happen, or did they get away with it? So we stood there, and we're like, are cops going to come? Is anything going to happen? 00:04:50 Speaker 7: And we were told not to call the cops ever, because we're Americans. And so the cops never come. Babushkas come down. 00:04:58 Speaker 1: Old ladies come down, and they're wailing... All night long next to this. Bobushkas? What is that? Is it related to Bob Costas? In Russian, it's Bobushkas. 00:05:08 Speaker 4: It means grandma. 00:05:09 Speaker 1: It means grandma. 00:05:10 Speaker 7: And they come down, and they're wailing, and these kids never get picked up for like 15 hours. 00:05:17 Speaker 8: Whoa. 00:05:18 Speaker 1: Or there's one kid that's dead. There's one kid that's dead. That's so sad. And they just left it, but they all dispersed. 00:05:23 Speaker 8: You have this other crazy story where somebody, because the Mormon missionaries, you're supposed to be helpful to everybody. You're supposed to serve the community. And you were saying that one of those old communist apartments, those big ugly concrete boxes that people had to live in, somebody died up there in a couch, and you had to bring the couch down, right? 00:05:45 Speaker 7: By the way, this is what LA and New York is going to look like very soon. 00:05:49 Speaker 4: I remember that you told the couch story before. 00:05:51 Speaker 7: So the short version of this story was, that in the Soviet era, they used to actually build the furniture inside your apartment because the doors, they made too small. And so you couldn't even fit like a couch. And so they would actually, it gave people more jobs. So there was a guy, his jobs full time was. 00:06:08 Speaker 1: To go around. I am furniture builder. 00:06:11 Speaker 6: I am. 00:06:12 Speaker 1: It's like what Ikea is for. You're just couch builder. It's a couch in a box. You have to build it inside. You're a sofa builder. 00:06:18 Speaker 7: And they go in, they build it. But the problem with that is you have to get it out someday. And, So actually in Russia, it's kind of like a joke, a running joke. Like everybody has all the same furniture because it's all the same for the Soviet Union. And you literally can't get out of your apartments. So a lot of the old people still have the same furniture. Everybody has the same stuff. Anyways, so this. 00:06:38 Speaker 1: Lady died on the couch. Like an old lady. An old lady, yeah. It was probably her time. A Bob Costas person. A Bobushka. Yeah. 00:06:47 Speaker 7: And she died and was a family member of a person. But she probably was there for like a week. dead on the couch anyway so all of her entrails everything had like seeped into this couch and so then we had to like some some somewhat disassemblist and this is the top floor of this like 15 story doesn't have an elevator and it's negative 20 degrees outside. 00:07:10 Speaker 9: That's actually good because what city were you in rostov rostov this is rostov and we're literally at the top and so we're dragging this it's like two of us this tiny stairwell Having to maneuver and our faces in where all these entrails were. 00:07:26 Speaker 1: Stop saying entrails. That has a stink. It was not just anyway. Right up there with moist. Anyway, I just brought this all up to say. What are the worst American, what are the worst English words? Moist is not a great word. 00:07:36 Speaker 8: The most cringe-worthy American or English words. 00:07:39 Speaker 7: If I could go back, I would have just launched that couch out the window and just been like, screw it. 00:07:45 Speaker 1: The body was removed. yeah the buy was gone but it was all. 00:07:48 Speaker 7: Of what they could what was left of her that was like could scrape. 00:07:51 Speaker 8: They're like you know some like russo was like let's give it to the mormon kid i'm telling. 00:07:55 Speaker 7: You no no they well they were like oh no the way that they framed it we're like oh you know my grandma my mother died and you know we just need to move some of our furniture out of our apartment like oh no big deal that's like great mormon stuff and and then we get there and it's like It's literally a horror film. 00:08:13 Speaker 1: Joseph Smith would have been so proud of us. I have bad news, by the way, Tyler. Zuzu asked, was this Russia or the Soviet Union? This is Russia. I'm not that old. How old do you think Tyler is? 00:08:24 Speaker 8: Listen he has a job that ages him extremely. 00:08:26 Speaker 1: This one's so much deeper than i was just setting that up for a joke like oh you know after the elections we might have to go into hiding and make living as underground kickboxing competitors so tyler tyler with his russian thing and then jack like i'm on the phone with him yesterday he's like hey good news my my visa for china just got approved i was like jack what the hell are you going. 00:08:43 Speaker 8: To china for i may never come back why are you going to china yeah. 00:08:47 Speaker 5: Well, Andrew, who doesn't actually understand anything about the news cycle, seems to not be tracking that the president of the United States is going to China for this huge trilateral summit next week. 00:09:04 Speaker 4: And, yes, I am going to be going along. 00:09:06 Speaker 1: Speaking of China. That means he gets to fly on Air Force One. 00:09:10 Speaker 7: Jack's like a fixture on Air Force One. 00:09:13 Speaker 8: Yeah, he is. 00:09:13 Speaker 10: Yeah. 00:09:16 Speaker 1: Do you have a plaque on your seat yet? 00:09:20 Speaker 5: So I will say this, like, like they don't like, okay. There's certain things like they don't want us talking about for security reasons, but the coolest thing that you can tell is that the new plane is really, really fast. It's way faster than the old plane. And this thing goes like now, I don't know, like 600 miles an hour. You know, ground speed, and you're already flying higher than anyone else, you can, obviously traffic has to get out of your way. So it's it the logistics are just, and again, it's always an honor to fly in the plane of course air force one there's no question but just from a logistics standpoint from like a dude standpoint trying to understand like this is going to be the fastest that i've ever flown to china and i'm just really looking forward to. 00:10:06 Speaker 8: That wait so that's kind of wait so this is the new plane the the much talked about qatari gift or whatever right or was it uae or qatar anyway But wasn't the big issue, Jack, that it didn't have those things that come off the back, the counter? Because Air Force One is equipped with like– come on, Jack. You're the military guy. If a missile comes up– Wings. 00:10:31 Speaker 1: It's equipped with wings. It doesn't have wings? 00:10:34 Speaker 4: No, I could answer. I'm just letting you twist. 00:10:37 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for you to bail me out. 00:10:39 Speaker 4: You're talking about the chaff, a.k.a. the chaffing countermeasures. 00:10:45 Speaker 5: Which are basically these metallic, it's just like strips of metal that come out and sort of like, if you've ever seen like, you remember Salt Bae when he pours the salt off the forearm? It's sort of like that, just sprinkles out behind the aircraft in hopes that a missile will, you know, be hitting it or something like that. 00:11:04 Speaker 1: And then explode. 00:11:05 Speaker 4: And so, yeah, so it's, you know, he's been using that. 00:11:07 Speaker 5: Plane for, you know, for all of the rally travel. And, uh, no, I actually don't know if that's specifically the one that we're going to be doing, but if we are, what I'm saying is it'll be the fastest that I've ever gone. 00:11:18 Speaker 4: Cause I've done some pretty long legs. I've done like New York to Hong Kong in one leg. 00:11:22 Speaker 1: I think that was. 00:11:22 Speaker 4: Like 18 hours. 00:11:25 Speaker 5: Um, I did the, well, yeah, I was, I was saying commercial for that one. Like when I previously lived in China, but yeah, the Alaska trip, that was the old planes. That was a six hours there, six hours back. 00:11:35 Speaker 4: And by the way, no wifi, no wifi for civilians. 00:11:38 Speaker 11: Ooh. 00:11:39 Speaker 1: Download those movies, boy. You know what this is reminding me of? 00:11:42 Speaker 5: Yeah, Russ, I'm going to hit you up at the end of the show. 00:11:46 Speaker 8: You know what this reminds me of, though, the way you're talking about the speed, Jack, is do you remember when Joe Biden still had not dropped out of the race 2024? He's in Vegas. And there was like all of a sudden he was sick in Vegas. And they we we got a tip in our tip line. 00:12:04 Speaker 4: I remember that tweet. 00:12:06 Speaker 8: Yeah, it was a whole thing. 00:12:08 Speaker 4: Which you were vindicated on, by the way. 00:12:10 Speaker 1: We got a tip internally from someone. 00:12:11 Speaker 4: Charlie was totally vindicated on that. 00:12:13 Speaker 7: But we got a tip from an activist who was part of the, that had someone in the police or something. And that's how we. 00:12:21 Speaker 8: Oh, I remember, Jack, because you went on Tucker that day. And you guys talked about it. Okay, now I'm remembering. 00:12:30 Speaker 7: I think I got texted by one of the people that was there. 00:12:34 Speaker 8: Yeah, well, a bunch of the police were hitting us up because they had to clear everything out to rush Joe Biden to the hospital. So it was like, I forget the name of the code, but it was code like block all the streets. 00:12:44 Speaker 1: We're going quick. 00:12:45 Speaker 8: Then they changed their mind. They get Joe back on Air Force One and they just bomb out of Vegas. And the Daily Mail reporter that was in the pool said, She basically said, I have flown Air Force One so many times, I've never felt the plane shake. I've never felt it go up that steep of a trajectory on takeoff. And we made it back to– they made it back east in record times, like three hours and 50 minutes or something like that, which it should have normally been about 445 or four and a half hours. 00:13:14 Speaker 1: But they were, like, mobbing. So that's what that– your story makes me think of that. 00:13:18 Speaker 4: So the new plane– The new plane is even faster than that. 00:13:21 Speaker 8: I still want to know answers. What the heck happened to Joe? 00:13:24 Speaker 1: No one still knows. Nobody knows. Still a mystery. 00:13:27 Speaker 4: Here's what's crazy about it. We're way off our topic, but just the Joe Biden thing in general. 00:13:35 Speaker 5: Nobody talks about the fact that Joe Biden was a president of the United States and that he drops out in the middle of the campaign and Kamala Harris is put up without a single vote cast. And there still isn't any, like, official narrative as to why that happened. And even, you know, Hunter Biden's gone and done all these interviews, and Jill Biden is doing interviews now. 00:13:56 Speaker 4: And, like, none of these. 00:13:57 Speaker 5: People even ask them about that when it's, like, the most significant thing that Jill Biden ever did. 00:14:01 Speaker 8: There's so many answers that we deserve to know what the heck happened behind the scenes. 00:14:05 Speaker 1: And nobody's– where's the book? Where's the tell-all? Honestly, given the sort of people they had in that admin, like, at this point, it's possible nobody remembers. 00:14:14 Speaker 7: Well– Do you guys follow that Twitter account, the 10 years ago account? 00:14:19 Speaker 1: Yeah. This day 10 years ago. What was going on 10 years ago today? 00:14:24 Speaker 7: Well, I've been loving it because it's the week that Trump won, and so it was all the changing of the world. 00:14:30 Speaker 11: Right, right. 00:14:30 Speaker 1: But I was watching this yesterday, or. 00:14:33 Speaker 7: Two days ago, and it was Obama and Biden at the White House in the Rose Garden going up and congratulating Trump on winning. 00:14:43 Speaker 1: And then there's a photo of his staff. remember the obama staff like reacting. 00:14:48 Speaker 7: Oh i don't know i don't know that was my point my point was joe biden next to him looks like a completely different human being totally like this is just 10 years ago yeah yeah yeah but. 00:14:58 Speaker 1: And i know people age quickly at that age but let's. 00:15:00 Speaker 8: Talk about this this is actually like if you. 00:15:02 Speaker 7: Watch that video though you should go watch that video of them in the rose garden it's like that that's joe biden. 00:15:09 Speaker 8: Yeah i don't know what happened this is a skin suit joe biden remember all the memes be careful with that be careful with that because i once i've i've been seriously asked before if i thought like biden might have a body double people remember they would talk about his earlobe or. 00:15:22 Speaker 7: Something well he had that weird little like crinkle because they know because he used to have lobes and now his ears connect but it's probably just a facelift. 00:15:30 Speaker 8: But definitely private facelift but here that this is crazy here's what's crazy though whatever they did Dr. Jill Biden has never come out with it. She's never explained what really happened behind the scenes. Like nobody has explained it. Like all we know from that time is that he did that fundraiser in LA and it was, he was like super weird that night. And George Clooney and Obama were like, okay, he's off. 00:15:56 Speaker 1: Something's off. 00:15:57 Speaker 8: But like the fact that they would never talk about it. Like, I wonder if like when Joe Biden finally kicks the bucket, if there's going to be like, Because he's got really bad cancer right now, right? He can't do his book tour or whatever. I wonder, didn't he get a bunch of tomatoes thrown at him or milk cartons thrown at him in Ireland? 00:16:16 Speaker 4: He's in Ireland, so he is traveling. 00:16:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were throwing that. That made me mad. My friend replied with that clip from Rome. He was a consul of Rome. That man was a president of the United States. Do not throw milk cartons at our president. I totally agree. I actually agree. 00:16:31 Speaker 8: But what's interesting is that I wonder if we're going to get, like, the tell-all. Like, I wonder if he has, like, some sort of missive, like, waiting, like, do not open until I expire, and he's going to tell what happened. Because the fact that we know nothing about how he got edged out, who came, who threatened, what were the stakes, like, what did they promise? 00:16:50 Speaker 1: I mean, the funny thing about Biden having a tell-all is, like, well, obviously he can't have a tell-all, and, like, that's why all these things happen, because he was a melty-brained man. 00:16:59 Speaker 8: I think he's got sundowners. Like, classic, as you get older... You get more and more decrepit as the day goes on. 00:17:05 Speaker 1: There's one hour a day where he has, like, a 170 IQ. He's, like, writing it. Joe Biden never had a 170 IQ. He's writing it 800 words at a time during his lucid hour each day. 00:17:15 Speaker 8: I think this is really interesting. 00:17:17 Speaker 1: Because we know nothing. This is like a vault. 00:17:19 Speaker 7: The weird part about Joe Biden was this. I remember being a student regent in college, and I had all these student government kids that were under me, and they were all libs, right? 00:17:29 Speaker 1: Like, all of them at ASU. 00:17:31 Speaker 7: And stuff and they loved joe biden they thought joe biden was the greatest thing since sliced bread and this is part of what led up to him actually becoming you know the nominee for them but like they loved him and thought he was so cool and like i can be i can admit it like even in those pictures i was looking at from 10 years ago like he's like a like a handsome looking grandpa like like a nice like he's at he was like just a chuckle box like really did nothing he wasn't really he never really agitated people that much and then something happened between that time that he left office to him running in 2020 like i mean he looked he doesn't even look like the same person even in 2020 he started sniffing but it's not just it's just not what he looked like it was how he acted it's like the stuff he said and stuff like like joe biden old school joe biden was actually like a like kind of a boy's boy like go along to get along, DC elite, kind of elitist guy. 00:18:30 Speaker 1: And then, like, 2020 rolled around. 00:18:32 Speaker 7: And, like, even the things that he said late in 2020 didn't even look like the same guy. And then, of course, 2024 rolls around. And he's a total mess. But, like, eight years, within eight years, he went from, like, somewhat likable, you know, dude that people, like, actually, you know, could get along with to absolutely a disaster guy. 00:18:54 Speaker 1: Under the spotlight. 00:18:55 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:18:55 Speaker 12: I don't know. 00:18:56 Speaker 1: I'm going to pull up the images. We should have been pulling images, but, um, I just pulled up the video again. I just tweeted it, but like it's, it's. 00:19:04 Speaker 8: He, he aged like here, here's a good, here's a good, uh, here's a good through the years. 00:19:10 Speaker 1: Like, look at this, like, look at this video of him. It's just like, that doesn't even look, Whoa. It does look different, and no one can see what we're showing. How about you send that clip to our team, and then they can upload it so our viewers can see it, Tyler. 00:19:25 Speaker 8: Here, I just sent it to Joe Biden through the years. 00:19:30 Speaker 1: It's kind of small. This is unbelievable. 00:19:33 Speaker 4: I don't know. 00:19:35 Speaker 1: I just can't believe it. I could spend a lot of time talking about this. I mean, you look at these pics from 10 years ago. He looks 10 years younger. This is more than 10 years. He looks like he's 30 years younger. 00:19:44 Speaker 4: You look at those pictures of 20 years ago, and he looks 20 years younger. 00:19:47 Speaker 1: It's insane. It's crazy. What happened? What'd they do to him? 00:19:50 Speaker 8: No, I mean, I think the transformation's pretty remarkable. 00:19:55 Speaker 1: There we go. See, look at that. So that middle one is kind of what he looked like as vice president. Yeah. 00:20:01 Speaker 10: I mean. 00:20:01 Speaker 4: I mean, it's just a face... Like, the main thing is a facelift. The main thing is he got a facelift. Like, that's the real... I mean, this one's kind of blurry. 00:20:09 Speaker 5: But the main thing is that when he went from really his, like, not just when he was a senator, but when he was VP under Obama for eight years, that he had a sort of look and he had that longer hair. And then when he became president, he, you know, he clearly got a facelift. 00:20:29 Speaker 1: I can't see. Can you guys shrink that photo a little bit? I can't see what his ages are in the 2008 and 2020. Age 67, age 83. 00:20:34 Speaker 11: All righty. 00:20:34 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:20:40 Speaker 9: I don't know. 00:20:40 Speaker 1: He still looks pretty old and age 67 there to me. 00:20:43 Speaker 8: See, that doesn't look like 2008. I think that's wrong. I think he looked more like this middle picture right here. Anyways, this was not the topic that we were supposed to go on. 00:20:52 Speaker 1: That was quite the nonsense. 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That's chministries.org and use the promo code CHARLIE. 00:21:56 Speaker 1: I think we should talk about NVIDIA first. Okay, we want to talk about Jensen's Huang. Okay, who came up with the title? Me, of course. Yeah, that's pretty funny. 00:22:07 Speaker 8: It was really good. 00:22:10 Speaker 1: Thinking with your wang. 00:22:12 Speaker 8: Thinking with your wang, yeah. Okay, so what do we think here? Jack, I haven't heard your thoughts on this. Who benefits qui bono by getting Jensen out? 00:22:24 Speaker 5: Well, so, you know, that's kind of an interesting discussion because I've sort of been looking at it from both sides. 00:22:32 Speaker 4: As well. 00:22:33 Speaker 5: So, Jensen Huang was obviously operating in a pro-CCP mode. 00:22:39 Speaker 4: He was clearly. 00:22:40 Speaker 5: Working in a way where he wanted to increase the amount of these export licenses to China. He was saying that he wanted more export licenses. He was pushing the idea that we need more of the open source model, which is, of course, what China wants in terms of AI because that's, that's the one that they use. And, you know, we're now in a place where, you know, we're looking at it going, okay, so he's gone now. Does that mean the CCP is hurt because he was a pro CCP guy, but it's also like, this was, this was a huge founder who the CCP effectively took down. 00:23:21 Speaker 4: And imagine if the CCP took down Elon Musk, you know? 00:23:25 Speaker 5: And so I think this, I think that this is something that we should, regardless of how it shakes out, it should be looked at as an attack. This was an attack on an American tech company, and it was a successful one because they took down one of our massive tech founders. And I don't think that any country should just go along and let things like that happen. 00:23:46 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think pulling yourself out of this entire thing, forget the person, forget the company. 00:23:54 Speaker 1: Anytime the CCP is. 00:23:57 Speaker 7: is conducting an op on an American citizen, no matter what it is. 00:24:01 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how. 00:24:03 Speaker 7: Lowly that individual is or how important that person is. It should be looked at as an assault on Americans. 00:24:14 Speaker 1: I wouldn't get. 00:24:15 Speaker 7: Distracted by who it is and what he does and the implications, actually, because there's no reason why the CCP would do it other than to help them. 00:24:27 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, what's so interesting to me is a lot of people have speculated on the CCP spying on him or the CCP trying to bring him down. And I'm really fascinated by the theory that it was just, this is an op by Anthropic or OpenAI to bring him down. 00:24:40 Speaker 11: Oh, wow. 00:24:41 Speaker 4: Walk through that. What's that theory? 00:24:43 Speaker 1: So for conventional business reasons. So OpenAI actually using the CCP to take down. Yeah, or using the allegation. It's not proven she was a CCP spy. Or even if she was in contact, they sounded her out because they knew she knew Jensen and just wanted info from her, that sort of thing. Anyway, the reason they would. 00:24:59 Speaker 7: Do this, why would the CCP allow their spy to just. 00:25:03 Speaker 1: Get like, But what I mean is she might not be a spy. She might be someone they contacted, someone they made into an asset. But that's getting beside the point. So the reason Anthropic would do this, though, so the allegation here is Jensen Huang, he's in favor of those chip exports to China, which is useful for making those open source models, which are sort of the main competitors with Anthropic, with OpenAI, with Brock, I guess. They're competing with all those guys. 00:25:30 Speaker 8: And. 00:25:31 Speaker 1: You want to hobble those models, either make us ban using them, stop sending chips that they use to train them, in general cause a big backlash that leads us to tightening regulations on AI, which benefits the entrenched actors, which is anthropic, which is open AI. And so who's standing in the way? Jensen Huang is the guy who goes to Trump and says, you should keep exporting some of those chips. Don't do new export controls. Don't crack down on AI. And now they have him out of the way. at his company, they have him humiliated and disgraced, and they have everyone freaking out about Chinese spies in the AI apparatus. The big winner of this is Anthropic, who I will note, they have their IPO in a few weeks. 00:26:15 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think, so I actually agree with this theory, and I totally see them working with the CCP to execute this, where they have shared interests. 00:26:26 Speaker 1: I just don't think they need to work with him. I just think, well, I think they might be willing to sacrifice a spy. I think they just knew he was having an affair and they could use that. And since it's an affair with someone who could credibly be framed as a Chinese spy, you think they discovered the CCP doing it. So they both have, I don't even know if the CCP did it. Here's the thing. Yeah. 00:26:47 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:26:47 Speaker 1: But when the CCP come out and be like, deny the allegation that they don't need to say anything. They can just let America spaz out. 00:26:52 Speaker 8: So Palmer, Palmer Lucky says, I think we have the tweet. China wanted Jensen out, so I want him in. And that's an interesting take. So why would China. 00:27:03 Speaker 1: Want him out? 00:27:04 Speaker 8: Because on its face, it doesn't make sense because he was trying to open up exports to China. 00:27:10 Speaker 1: He was trying to get them the chips. 00:27:12 Speaker 8: China didn't want the chips, though, which is very interesting. 00:27:14 Speaker 1: I think that if they would want it, then the argument would be you're too focused on a specific policy. And instead, remember what John Carney also said, that 60 teams report to Jensen Wang that he is the guy at our biggest company. 00:27:26 Speaker 8: The point is, I think Jensen Wang is just such an asset to American AI that they're happy for. 00:27:31 Speaker 1: Him to be out. It'd be like taking out Elon Musk. It's just like, the guy. 00:27:34 Speaker 4: who is. 00:27:35 Speaker 1: At the heart of everything. Maybe you just hobbled Nvidia and they want their own companies. They want Huawei to overtake Nvidia in chip design. You get rid of the big guy. Jack, what were you saying? 00:27:47 Speaker 4: That's how I was saying we should think about it. 00:27:50 Speaker 5: We should say, what if the CCP took out Elon Musk? 00:27:56 Speaker 4: Just think about that. 00:27:57 Speaker 5: What would that mean for SpaceX? What would that mean for Tesla? What would that mean for Starlink and all the rest of it, right? We kind of have this understanding that Elon Musk really is the only Elon Musk. 00:28:08 Speaker 4: That we have. 00:28:09 Speaker 5: And so, you know, as Trump likes to say this sometimes, he goes, you know, we have these geniuses. 00:28:15 Speaker 4: We've got to take care of our geniuses. We've got to take care of them. 00:28:18 Speaker 5: And I'm not saying that I, you know, like I'm fully read in on everything that Jensen Long was up to. But at the same time, it's like, you know, don't don't hobble NVIDIA just because this guy screwed up. Also, you know, are there ways like, as you know, put my Intel officer hat on, you know, if you find out that someone's got a contact with an Intel agent, well, I mean, there's things you can do with that. That's an opportunity too, because you can, you can feed them bad info. You can run disinfo operations on them. You can find out more of their network. You can find out what their intentions are, what they're up to. So it's not always something where you just, you find out there's an Intel op and you want to blow up that person's placement and access all of a sudden, you know, it's kind of like the idea that, you know, in Bletchley Park in World War II when they had cracked the Enigma machine, that they didn't just go ahead and start, like, letting the Germans know that they had cracked the codes because they knew that by doing so, then the Germans would just change their codes. 00:29:16 Speaker 8: So here's a tweet from Lee Fang, who's no crazy reporter. He's, like, a pretty solid guy. He breaks some interesting stories. He said, what are the odds, this goes with your theory, Blake, American AI firms are playing some role in the Huang ouster, in the same way Cisco paid PR firms to spread fears about Huawei, and Meta paid PR firms to stir demand for banning competitor TikTok. 00:29:30 Speaker 11: Exactly. 00:29:30 Speaker 8: And so if you're Anthropic, you want everyone to be buying Claude. And you control it. 00:29:33 Speaker 1: You have. 00:29:51 Speaker 1: A lot of power over it, and they aren't going to want to do it if they can get an open source one because you can do more stuff with it that's not all constrained. But if it's way more powerful to use Anthropos. 00:30:01 Speaker 7: So this is the other theory then is that the CCP was giving him somebody to have a relationship with to keep a close eye on him because he was doing their bidding. 00:30:15 Speaker 1: I just haven't seen any proof. By the way, Kyrie asks, is his name pronounced Wong, Wang, or Huang? And the answer is yes. Wong. It's Wong. Wong. Yeah, I mean, here's the thing. 00:30:29 Speaker 8: It feels like this classic IC, like Intel's community, laundering stuff to Financial Times, The Economist. and the New York Times, and then the Wall Street Journal, and then all of a sudden everybody just assumes she's a spy. 00:30:46 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, man. 00:30:48 Speaker 8: There has been no firm evidence that proves this chick is a spy, first of all. 00:30:53 Speaker 1: And again, the secondary possibility is she got in an affair for the normal reasons or for business reasons, and China, like, okay, other people figured this out. Whoever tipped off the New York Times figured this out. Maybe China who probably China might literally have a thousand people whose full time job is strategizing around our top people and how to spy on them, how to bring them down. And maybe they found out, oh, he has an affair. Three of them. Now we have three of them. Let's go talk to this person. They might have spied on all three of those women. 00:31:25 Speaker 8: Just so you know, the fact that he has multiple affairs is actually. 00:31:28 Speaker 1: Proof he's a billionaire! It's actually. 00:31:32 Speaker 8: It reinforces the idea that he wasn't intentionally giving stuff to this Chinese spy. He's probably just a former nerd turned. 00:31:39 Speaker 1: I mean, he was giving it to the Chinese spy. You know what I mean. Giving intel. Okay, wait. We have a clip. 00:31:48 Speaker 11: Clip 13, it's how to know if your girlfriend is a spy. 00:31:52 Speaker 1: I think this will help. Perfect transition. I think this will help. Perfect transition for your guys' questions. This is going to be very important for everybody watching. Let's play 13. 00:31:59 Speaker 8: How to tell if your girlfriend is a spy. 00:32:04 Speaker 1: First is, what do you do? Okay, that's what I need to know. Are you an AI or not an AI? Let's imagine you are an AI. Is she a 10? If it's yes, she's a spy. If she's not a 10, now you've got some options. 00:32:19 Speaker 9: Is the company you work for worth over 100 million? 00:32:24 Speaker 8: Is the company you work for worth over 100 million? 00:32:27 Speaker 1: If the answer is no... Not a spy. If your company is over $ 100. 00:32:33 Speaker 8: Million, now we've got to work through this again. 00:32:36 Speaker 9: Does she say your GPU is the biggest she's ever seen? 00:32:43 Speaker 1: This one's a big one. If she says yes, okay, bad news, bro. She's a spy. If she says no, maybe, maybe not. Maybe spy. Just keep an eye on her. 00:32:55 Speaker 11: If your company's worth over $ 100 million, million and she's a good listener not a spy worse venture capitalist associate okay. 00:33:05 Speaker 1: Worse so. 00:33:08 Speaker 11: Just so you know there's like another two minutes of that video of he breaks it all. 00:33:13 Speaker 1: Down oh what is it what else does it go into does it does that have any. 00:33:16 Speaker 11: Other big piece of advice if you're in the government at one point he's like nope she's worse she's an IRS agent. 00:33:23 Speaker 1: Oh no that would be so terrible. 00:33:25 Speaker 8: So Elon this is what's interesting so will Elon be the beneficiary of swooping in and getting Jensen Huang I. 00:33:34 Speaker 1: Don't know why Jensen would want to go work for Elon Musk who notoriously is difficult to work for yeah. 00:33:39 Speaker 8: But he's building the Terrafab thing right it's like a project made for Jensen Huang could be a huge deal What. 00:33:47 Speaker 1: If Jensen Huang decides that he's had it with this world and he just decides to become the first human to fully assimilate himself into AI? Just throwing it out there. They're talking about, I mean, separately, all of the AI people are having their full cult moment where they're like, a year from now, AI may destroy civilization or like take over the government. They're, they're doing some pretty wacky stuff. 00:34:12 Speaker 8: I wonder how many women he's had affairs with though. Cause like three is where it's at now. Where's it going to end? 00:34:17 Speaker 1: Look, I mean, he is worth over a hundred billion dollars. His kids are grown. Like I, I am not, I'm not defending it in any way, but like he probably, he probably has the power to do what he wants if he feels that way. 00:34:30 Speaker 13: Yeah. 00:34:30 Speaker 1: But here's what I don't, this is why I think she is a spy. 00:34:34 Speaker 7: Back to the original question here. Because if you're worth $ 100 billion, you're not going for low-hanging fruit, right? 00:34:45 Speaker 1: So this isn't just like. 00:34:47 Speaker 1: There was that NFL owner who was a billionaire and got arrested with a trailer party. I know, I know. If he's a previous nerd, now he's a billionaire. 00:34:55 Speaker 7: I know, but I would hope, I guess I would hope, but if you're smart, Robert Kraft's probably not a genius like this guy is. Are you just picking up random potential CCP girls at the bar? 00:35:08 Speaker 11: But are you intellectually smart or are you relationally smart? 00:35:12 Speaker 7: This is my point, though. I think that there's probably... Like they're probably like the NBA players are really smart about the girls that they see. 00:35:22 Speaker 1: Most of them are married. 00:35:23 Speaker 10: Yeah. 00:35:24 Speaker 1: Most of them are married. 00:35:24 Speaker 7: They have like entire rings. They go through like multiple layers of checkpoints. They have people that like look into all these people, professional athletes in America, like know what they're doing. 00:35:34 Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting that all the. 00:35:36 Speaker 7: Billionaire class do, but my guess would be is that these smart people would at least be smart enough to have some checkpoints. 00:35:41 Speaker 1: And I don't know. Well, what stands out to me is just... If you're Jensen Huang's level of importance, just that this clearly can't have been a secret to only himself. Because there's got to be a ton of other people who know about it. He's got to have a giant apparatus around him. Handlers, yeah. Handlers, but even NVIDIA security's got to know. 00:36:01 Speaker 7: That's why I'm using the NBA example, because they have handlers that set up. 00:36:06 Speaker 1: They check women, they da-da-da, all those things. So I'm saying is. 00:36:10 Speaker 7: My guess is... Again, with people that important, they body scan people. They do all sorts of crazy stuff before you have access to them. My guess is that she probably is a CCP spy because otherwise you wouldn't get that close. 00:36:27 Speaker 8: The thing that doesn't make sense, though, is that, and I think we have this headline somewhere. 00:36:31 Speaker 1: Blake knows it. 00:36:32 Speaker 8: There are apparently like 600,000 NVIDIA chips stuck at a port in Hong Kong. And the Chinese are blocking them. So why go to all this effort to put a spy with Jensen Wang with this mega speed CCP cutout to route ships through Southeast Asia as a go around? 00:36:54 Speaker 1: To track and trap him. To track and trap him. And use that against them at some point when they decide. We imagine China as this behemoth when it's actually a country of 1.4 billion people. Like in the U.S., could you easily just say the U.S. did this? No, the U.S. is a nation with factions. We have left and right. And deep state and anti-war and dissident and libertarian, all these things. So in China, the argument, yeah, the Blakesheviks. And in China, like what they actually have is people have brought up the Chinese government doesn't want NVIDIA chips. They want to turn Huawei into this juggernaut that's just as powerful. But China has tons of AI firms that want those chips getting in. And they like. Apparently, like, they're building their own data centers in Malaysia so that they can get compute outside. So, black market chips? 00:37:43 Speaker 11: Yeah. 00:37:43 Speaker 1: Or, like, and building up data that is going to China, but they build it in foreign countries. So, like, they're outsourcing their ops to other countries so they can get around bans. Like, our companies do that. Our companies do stuff to get around U.S. government policy and bans. Chinese companies can do the same thing. Yeah, we've got. And so she might be doing it for that reason. Do we have other fun memes of this? We do have fun memes. What's your favorite funniest meme? 00:38:10 Speaker 4: Let's say it this way. We don't know exactly. 00:38:12 Speaker 5: There's lots of speculation as to much as with any Chinese or any intelligence operation. 00:38:20 Speaker 4: But we do know that there's lots of memes. 00:38:23 Speaker 1: I think we should do 16. That one looks like fun. This is channeling a recent major movie. Clip 16. 00:38:31 Speaker 10: I don't have anything to deceive you on. Of course I'm not deceiving you. I'm engaging with you as a human being. Why would I deceive you? 00:38:44 Speaker 1: There's no. 00:38:46 Speaker 10: There's no reason for me to do that. 00:38:50 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:38:54 Speaker 11: All right. 00:38:56 Speaker 1: Okay, good chat. 00:39:01 Speaker 4: Is it possible to explain that? I've watched that clip. 00:39:04 Speaker 1: No, of course. 00:39:05 Speaker 4: Just to explain, that is, of course, the. 00:39:06 Speaker 1: Trailer for You Can See Everything, the Elizabeth Holmes movie, but with the Photoshop. 00:39:10 Speaker 4: That's also pretty much... That's also a very good summation of the whole movie, as a matter of fact. The whole movie is basically just that. 00:39:17 Speaker 1: I need to see it still. I wanted to see it. Jack, that is unfair. It is actually... No, I liked it. 00:39:23 Speaker 5: I liked it very much, but that is the movie. 00:39:26 Speaker 4: That's what the movie's about. It's just different iterations of that. 00:39:30 Speaker 1: I was left really contemplating a lot after that movie. Really thinking about life and how people act. 00:39:38 Speaker 4: Well, what I was thinking was... What gets me in that clip now still is when she adds that little, hmm? In there, she goes, why would I deceive you? 00:39:47 Speaker 1: Hmm? 00:39:47 Speaker 11: Hmm? 00:39:48 Speaker 4: That little nudge. 00:39:51 Speaker 1: All right, we've got another clip. This is going to be hard if you can't see it, but this is clip 17. Clip 17. Round yon virgin, mother and child. Holy infant, so tender and mild. 00:40:28 Speaker 2: Sleep in heavenly peace. 00:40:58 Speaker 1: What movie is that channel? Love Actually. Love Actually, okay, yeah. It's the sign thing from Love Actually. The guy comes to the door. Yeah, and tells, what's her name? Well, she's with her. Kristen, or no, what is her name? 00:41:10 Speaker 8: Anyways, tells her he loves her, but she just married his best friend. 00:41:13 Speaker 1: What's funny is I guess both of these memes are people where they actually didn't have the affair with the person then, right? Yeah. In theory. Whoops-a-daisies. 00:41:21 Speaker 8: That's all right. 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All right, come on. 00:43:11 Speaker 6: Either they're having an affair or they're very shy. 00:43:22 Speaker 8: That, of course, is the Coldplay viral video. 00:43:24 Speaker 1: The infamous Coldplay, which, like that, people always pointed out they would have gotten away with it if they had just not panicked and freaked out. And all I can think of, I told you about this today, Andrew. What's darkly funny about this is Wong is losing his job for a very, I guess we might say, very trad reason. He got having an affair. And Silicon Valley is full of the most insane sexual ethics of all time. Elon Musk has somewhere between 1,200 and 1,200 children with 500 different women. And then I told you about the guy at Palantir, Alex Karp. He has two families. He's geographically monogamous. Not just the guy, the Democrats. Yeah. 00:44:02 Speaker 4: Democrat. 00:44:03 Speaker 1: Democrat. Proud Democrat and progressive Alex Karp. And then, of course, all the AI people, they're all in polycool, weird polyamory stuff. Wait, what is this Karp thing? You don't know about this? 00:44:15 Speaker 11: No. 00:44:15 Speaker 1: Alex Karp is the head of Palantir, and he describes himself as geographically monogamous because he has a wife or a partner in two different cities with kids with each of them. They used to put people in jail for this. 00:44:29 Speaker 8: Did you know Peter Thiel moved to Argentina? I. 00:44:32 Speaker 1: I did? I think I said that over? Did you send that over? All these people are quitting on us, man. 00:44:38 Speaker 7: It's a bad sign. It's not a good sign. We won't say it out loud. We won't verbalize what kind of sign that is. 00:44:47 Speaker 1: This is funny. 00:44:47 Speaker 8: Jack just put this in the chat and I thought it was hilarious. From Evelyn June. Jensen Wang's resignation has left many Asian Americans feeling unsettled by the haunting notion that they've denied all their lives. that no matter how successful, an Asian face and surname will be picked apart under harsher scrutiny and never stay in leadership for very long. 00:45:11 Speaker 1: You know? For real. I misspoke. Alex Karp doesn't have kids, but he is geographically monogamous with partners in different cities. 00:45:19 Speaker 8: You didn't address Evelyn's very touching note about that Asian face and that Asian surname? 00:45:24 Speaker 1: Oh, yes. I mean, so his name's not really Jensen, too. It's not? It's Jin Sung Hwang. Jack will have to do it. How about the Ram meme? Did we do that already? 00:45:37 Speaker 4: No, 18? 18. 00:45:48 Speaker 1: He's Americanized. Oh, gosh. 00:45:52 Speaker 8: I didn't realize it was dirty. 00:45:55 Speaker 1: You didn't realize. Tsk, tsk. I'm not dirty like you guys. 00:46:00 Speaker 4: Foul. 00:46:01 Speaker 1: Absolutely foul. Alright, I think that's all we've got, right? Yeah, that's all we've got. 00:46:06 Speaker 4: Huang Ren Xun. It's actually Huang Ren Xun. 00:46:11 Speaker 1: Jin Song Wang Song Xun? 00:46:14 Speaker 4: No, no. It's Ren Xun. 00:46:17 Speaker 1: All right. You know, it sounds like... We find it funny. 00:46:21 Speaker 4: Because in Chinese, you would put the surname first. 00:46:23 Speaker 1: I think it's a total loss for America's AI. It's a loss for America's AI, it feels. And on top of that... So it's bad economically. There's economic danger. But we also have to address the other existential danger, which is... What if Jensen Huang's wife divorces him and then dumps $ 100 billion into lib nonsense? What if that was the whole play? She could ruin the Atlantic. This woman could ruin every magazine in America. That's enough money. 00:46:51 Speaker 8: Code Pink. Revenge of the Code Pink. Bezos' wife did this too. She's a crazy woman. 00:46:58 Speaker 1: $ 100 billion. She could just buy the Republican Party and just like For $ 100 billion, someone could show up at AmFest and just walk out on stage and just be like... Well, the reason why they also... That would help us. 00:47:09 Speaker 8: Rebrand because we'd all just. 00:47:12 Speaker 1: Get some piercings. Yeah. 00:47:14 Speaker 7: I'm sure there's a whole play here. The Chinese also probably just love to take down a Taiwanese guy, too. 00:47:20 Speaker 12: True. 00:47:21 Speaker 1: That's an understatement. There is an unmistakable hatred that exists culturally to want to take down someone that's Taiwanese. 00:47:32 Speaker 11: True. 00:47:33 Speaker 4: All right. 00:47:34 Speaker 7: So, so you guys, we could be, we could be totally overthinking this and that this is just very simply, they hate the Taiwanese so much that taking down him. 00:47:44 Speaker 1: Is singularly worth it. All right. Another topic, James gun fired. Hallelujah. Okay. 00:47:52 Speaker 4: Let's go. 00:47:52 Speaker 1: Take your victory lap, Russ. 00:47:57 Speaker 4: Let's go. 00:47:57 Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. So actually, so it's funny. 00:48:01 Speaker 11: One of the very first stories that Jack, told me when i started working with him all those years ago five six years ago or whatever was his involvement in getting james gunn fired from marvel because of his pedo uh tweets so i first time and we've we've had multiple conversations never been a huge james gunn fan the first guardians galaxy is good everything else. 00:48:27 Speaker 1: After that has kind of gone downhill. 00:48:29 Speaker 11: James gunn Four years ago now, took over DC, was like, hey, I'm going to bring back the DC universe in a better way than Zack Snyder has ever had, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:48:43 Speaker 1: This week, James Gunn has been fired. 00:48:46 Speaker 11: First off, for the fact that for four years, he's completely just done nothing. 00:48:52 Speaker 1: He's done nothing at all. Has made bad movies or has made no movies? 00:48:58 Speaker 11: He's made bad movies and bad movie decisions. 00:49:01 Speaker 1: So as a cool person who doesn't watch DC comic book movies, what has he done? I mean, Guardians of the Galaxy was legit good. I want to hear about the DC ones. What did he do to Superman? 00:49:13 Speaker 11: So the first one was Superman. And then that kind of kicks off his universe. The problem is Superman is just. 00:49:23 Speaker 1: A bad movie in general. I feel like Superman's a bad character. 00:49:28 Speaker 4: No, Superman's a great character. 00:49:29 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of good ways to make Superman. There's not a lot of good ways to make Superman. 00:49:33 Speaker 4: Superman was not done good. 00:49:35 Speaker 5: The Superman movie was not, like, woke in the sense that it's, like, oh, it's jamming, like, a bunch of political correctness down your throat. 00:49:44 Speaker 4: It was just sort of big and dumb. 00:49:46 Speaker 1: It was just really big and dumb. 00:49:48 Speaker 11: Well, it was also woke for the fact that Superman's kind of just, like, he's a beta male. 00:49:56 Speaker 1: He's so beta. I mean, the real Superman's kind of a beta. 00:49:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair. 00:50:00 Speaker 11: Twitter kind of went off, like, they pulled this clip of him being, like, I'm here because I feel like you made me feel bad. 00:50:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:50:10 Speaker 1: It's like emo Superman. I feel like that is Superman's character. No, it's not. Superman is 100% a guy who a Twitter thread could shame him and make him do annoying lib stuff. That has always been Superman's persona. No, no. They did a comic book arc once where he walked across America on foot because he felt bad. For sure, but again. 00:50:32 Speaker 5: Blake, you know that's literally the plot of the... Wait, Blake, are you referencing the movie? Because that's literally the plot of the movie here. 00:50:37 Speaker 11: Is it? 00:50:38 Speaker 1: Oh, no, I just knew that it was an arc in the comics. 00:50:43 Speaker 4: No, the Twitter thread thing. 00:50:45 Speaker 1: Oh, hold on. 00:50:46 Speaker 8: I asked Grok what the top movies for James Gunn are. Number one, Guardians of the Galaxy 2014. 00:50:53 Speaker 14: Yep. 00:50:54 Speaker 1: Suicide Squad. I did not know he did that. 00:50:56 Speaker 6: 2021. 00:50:56 Speaker 1: Terrible. 00:50:57 Speaker 8: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3, so they skipped Volume 2. Superman 2025 they put as top tier. Other notable ones, Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2, Super in 2010, and Slither 2006. 00:51:15 Speaker 11: Superman did 618 million worldwide box office. So then he also came out with Supergirl, which was garbage. 00:51:24 Speaker 1: Terrible, yeah. Such a waste of a blonde... clay face character it's fine and then his big this like super femmy feminist. 00:51:34 Speaker 11: Super girl it's uh millie alcott yeah like a drunk girl boss. 00:51:39 Speaker 7: Yeah that's literally how super lib drunk super lib like they could have made her so cool like that's the thing too hollywood could hit like an actual like really cool female character i agree that's like kind of like uh i don't know that that's like likable by men Is this it? 00:51:58 Speaker 1: Wonder Woman. 00:51:59 Speaker 11: The first Wonder Woman that they did in World War I was actually a good movie. 00:52:03 Speaker 1: Yeah. Is this the one? Is this the right? Yes, that is it. 00:52:06 Speaker 7: But I don't feel like guys were wanting to put posters up of Wonder Woman. 00:52:11 Speaker 1: I'm saying there could. 00:52:13 Speaker 7: Be a Marvel or DC character that's a female that guys actually really like. 00:52:21 Speaker 1: They celebrate. They think it's cool. And they haven't hit that. The same way that Deadpool.... 00:52:28 Speaker 7: Is cool to young men. Like, there could be a female character that's cool to young men. 00:52:33 Speaker 1: Correct. And they haven't even tried. Correct. No one. Correct. It's like, if you hit that, like, you would make billions. 00:52:39 Speaker 11: That was the big thing that James Gunn pushed for this universe was all of the stuff that he was posting or that he was pushing and greenlighting was R-rated and raunchy. 00:52:51 Speaker 1: His big one was Peacemaker. 00:52:53 Speaker 10: Yeah. 00:52:53 Speaker 1: And the second season takes place. He's deranged, though, right? Like, he's a bad person, correct? 00:52:58 Speaker 4: Very bad person. 00:52:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, very bad person. 00:53:01 Speaker 8: This is your whole thing, right, Jack? He was, like, the weird pedo tweets and stuff like that. 00:53:05 Speaker 1: By the way, he was howling mutant tweets 10 years before howling mutant. 00:53:10 Speaker 5: I even found– I have exclusive reporting that he was even holding and had people attending– keto themed. 00:53:20 Speaker 4: Parties in Hollywood. I have the document. No, no, no. 00:53:23 Speaker 5: I have the documents where they are, where they're, where they're putting this out. And it's a human events.com. I've had them up for years that we put out a ton of information regarding this again and again, where again, it was like a, always a costume where he was supposed to be dressed up or people were supposed to come dressed up as, you know, children or other people were coming dressed up as like, like, weird, you know, sex play kind of stuff. 00:53:50 Speaker 4: And he talks about this on his blog too. 00:53:52 Speaker 5: And this isn't, you know, it's not the first time, but I actually uncovered other parties that he had had, uh, that were in the same vein and should just someone who should never, number one, have ever been around children's or family entertainment. And then number two, someone who just obviously just messed up in the head. 00:54:07 Speaker 8: Like, yeah, that's actually a really good tie in. Like it's so constant, this theme of like really bad people want to like make young people content. By the way, I just found this Supergirl 1984. 00:54:18 Speaker 1: Go from 1984 back to the one that James got. Tyler, come on. There's no comparison. Look at 1984 to 2026. Tyler's not looking. 00:54:23 Speaker 6: 1984. 00:54:23 Speaker 1: Love that chicken from Popeye's. Love that chicken from Popeye's. Which is hilarious. Look at that angry face. She has so much potential to be. 00:54:44 Speaker 7: But it's not even the attractive part. It's her character, her acting. It was so terrible, so femme bossy, and so feminist. 00:54:52 Speaker 1: It was terrible. But this is what I'm saying. I'm getting called out. Anyone that can hear this, and please share. 00:55:00 Speaker 7: If they created one attractive female character that had the. 00:55:06 Speaker 1: Swagger of Deadpool. 00:55:08 Speaker 7: and was just cool to actual men. All they have to do is message test this with young men from ages 25 to 35. 00:55:15 Speaker 1: That didn't hate men. That didn't hate men. 00:55:17 Speaker 7: That made men feel good. I'm telling you, they would make... They'd encourage strength in their male counterparts. Honestly, billions of dollars on that one character. 00:55:26 Speaker 1: I totally agree. 00:55:27 Speaker 7: Ryan Reynolds has made so much money for their entire universe because of Deadpool. 00:55:31 Speaker 11: Yes, but again, and that's the biggest thing with Gunn that differs from Marvel. Deadpool's character makes sense to be raunchy and all of that. James Gunn tried to go, hey, you know what? We're going to start. 00:55:43 Speaker 1: Our universe forward with the raunchy. But that's my point. Can we just talk about it, though? If you do it the right way. 00:55:51 Speaker 7: Then you actually get something out of it. And then the rest of your characterization, and I agree, I think should be along the Christian scope, should be made for everybody. 00:56:03 Speaker 1: Can we just talk about this a little bit? 00:56:05 Speaker 8: But if you're going to do it, do it right. the fact that the dumbest, we're like missing the big E on the eye chart on this stuff. The fact that like female superheroes in these things, when they get into like hand to hand combat with the like bad guy villain, you just have this, these chicks that are like, and they block their arm. 00:56:20 Speaker 1: It's like, no, if that dude. 00:56:21 Speaker 4: Hit your arm. 00:56:22 Speaker 6: Okay. 00:56:22 Speaker 1: But she's super girl. And then, and then she punches you. I'm sorry. No, but you see this in like, Oh, no. Captain Marvel. 00:56:29 Speaker 8: This is a movie about people in spandex. 00:56:32 Speaker 1: Who fight evil space aliens. 00:56:35 Speaker 8: Your arm would be busted the second that made an address. 00:56:38 Speaker 7: I'm telling you right now, Captain Marvel made me not want to ever give money to Marvel ever again. 00:56:43 Speaker 11: Yeah, Captain Marvel was also... in the very same vein as super girl, uh, one of those movies. 00:56:48 Speaker 1: Where it's just, it's the acting. It was such. 00:56:50 Speaker 7: Terrible, but it ruined, uh, it ruined Avengers for me. 00:56:56 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:56:57 Speaker 1: The end game. All right. But very good news. Uh, Zeus is calling me out. She says, I only think Superman stinks because the movies were bad. He was brave, moral, and protected people with his strength. I still don't think that makes Superman an interesting character. 00:57:11 Speaker 12: Blake Neff is a Lex Luthor variant in real life. He is in one of the multiverses. Oh, my God. 00:57:28 Speaker 1: Shots fired. Okay, I mean, probably true. He totally would adopt this. Probably true, but nevertheless. 00:57:33 Speaker 8: Many people on the internet feel this way. 00:57:36 Speaker 1: Nevertheless, I just don't get what's so interesting about Superman. 00:57:38 Speaker 4: He's really saying. 00:57:39 Speaker 1: Oh, he's so strong. He can punch a guy, and that guy just explodes, and he's unstoppable. Like, who cares? He can literally spin the earth, like... yeah backwards backwards what where's the fun in that no. 00:57:53 Speaker 11: He's an i do agree he is an alien that fully assimilated to the united states culture and way of life and he is a he's just a journalist by day notically raised in a methodist household in the middle of kansas well then i want superman it'd be interesting superman was like a methodist radical biggest bully no the biggest problem with superman is that he's too powerful it is because it's like sure it's like That's why Kryptonite is. 00:58:18 Speaker 1: The whole story doesn't work out. And that's why all of the. 00:58:21 Speaker 4: The weaknesses. 00:58:22 Speaker 1: And all of the best... That's why all the best Superman stories that people like are the ones where they're like, well, what if Superman was a communist? 00:58:28 Speaker 5: No. 00:58:29 Speaker 7: My favorite part about Superman in general is that he is an all-powerful being that has only two weaknesses. 00:58:37 Speaker 1: And one is Lois Lane. Women. A woman. No, a woman. Which I really appreciate. Yes, yes. The Jensen Wong problem, right? 00:58:47 Speaker 10: No. 00:58:48 Speaker 7: Jensen Wong had multiple women. What I like about Superman, he was a traditionalist. It was one woman, one woman at a time. He wasn't like a playboy, all that stuff. 00:58:56 Speaker 1: He was one woman. And then like some random thing, some random thing that ruined your life. Like, hold on. So you're, are you, so people have one problem. So hold on. If Superman got gambling if superman got caught having an affair with lana lang instead of lois and would you think he should be fired from being superman from uh what if lana lang had connections to the suit to the ccp. 00:59:19 Speaker 14: He probably also yeah the ccp totally went after that should be a movie script the ccp should go after trying to expose superman my superman would. 00:59:29 Speaker 5: Be the best cheater ever because he's got superpowers if she's coming he's like i'm gone he could he could take your memory away by the. 00:59:39 Speaker 7: Way the moment that he found out he could take her into outer space and just leave her there. 00:59:44 Speaker 8: And it's like look at all these by the way look at all these like like look at superman's one problem lois lane throughout the years look at all these look at how Who wore it best? 00:59:54 Speaker 1: But you know what's funny? Wait, wait. I still think Lois Lane on Amy Adams was a Lois Lane? She was in Man of Steel. Terry Hatcher. Superman TV. Who was the one on TV? 01:00:07 Speaker 4: Tyler, that's Terry Hatcher. 01:00:09 Speaker 1: Terry Hatcher was, yeah. Yeah, Lois and Clark. Was that bottom right one in like an S & M outfit? 01:00:14 Speaker 4: Gorgeous. Gorgeous. 01:00:15 Speaker 1: I don't know. 01:00:16 Speaker 14: Okay, so Terry Hatcher probably did it best, right? 01:00:20 Speaker 4: She was with Dean Cain. 01:00:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, she probably did it fast. And then we have the Lois and Clark home, which our man Dean Cain was in it. I don't know. She kind of looks like Hillary. She looks like a young Hillary Clinton. 01:00:30 Speaker 7: I will say this because I do like Man of Steel. 01:00:32 Speaker 1: What's his face? Henry Cavill. Yeah, Henry Cavill is like the best Superman for sure. 01:00:36 Speaker 4: He's cool. 01:00:36 Speaker 1: He is the Superman. But Dean Cain was not that bad. He wasn't that bad. And he's way up there. 01:00:42 Speaker 7: It's very rare that a made-for-TV version of superheroes. 01:00:46 Speaker 1: Are at the top end. 01:00:48 Speaker 3: True. 01:00:48 Speaker 1: And both of them were at the top end. 01:00:51 Speaker 8: Jeez, I didn't realize that Margot Kidder, you know, the original Lois Lane for most of us growing up, she died at 69 in 2018. 01:00:59 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a really sad story, actually, with Margot Kidder. 01:01:05 Speaker 4: Is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She had a lot of mental problems. 01:01:09 Speaker 1: All right, so we've gotten so far off topic. So you're saying DC movies are good now. Are we going to get a Batman? Let's go back. What does a good DC universe mean? 01:01:20 Speaker 11: The white pill in all of this is that James Gunn is gone. And the person that they have put in charge of the DCU is an old producer from Marvel. 01:01:34 Speaker 1: He is a Christian. He is a conservative. 01:01:39 Speaker 11: To give you a little idea of his kind of thought process let's play clip uh two. 01:01:46 Speaker 3: About my grandparents in there because when we were making the first marvel movies i'd always be like i don't know if my grandma would like that you know and that became like a guiding light of like as we were developing the movies like i just had this like sense of like i don't know if my grandma would like that and that became the stand-in for like is this going to work for like regular people that are outside of the bubble of Hollywood. Like, what does this say for like a regular family? And I remember my grandmother called me when Iron Man one came out and she said, you know, our pastor on Sunday preached about the movie and he doesn't even know that you worked on it. Like he just like the story of redemption, like wove its way into his sermon. And like, Iron Man was like the proxy for redemption that he like used as like, you know, trying to make yourself a better person. And I was like, Oh man, like, all the time that Favreau would like joke and be like, Oh, Jeremy's Meemaw and Peepaw wouldn't like this. Like it ended up the movie connected and like was for Meemaw and Peepaw. And that was like kind of a, a guiding light for like how we made stuff in those early days of Marvel was like, wanted to connect and feel redemptive and feel hopeful and feel like. 01:02:52 Speaker 4: It had something to say that was meaningful. 01:02:56 Speaker 11: So, so he doesn't seem like a crazy person. No, he, he wants traditional values. Like we all talked about like, and perfect example was Superman. Truth, justice, and the American way. That is his motto. 01:03:06 Speaker 1: Didn't they change it? What did they change it to? They changed it to truth, justice, and... The world? And globalism? It is actually. I think they changed it to... Let's see. And everybody has to drive tiny... I got forced to read that comic. 01:03:22 Speaker 11: But actually, as a comic nerd, and as somebody who reads Superman comics, one of my favorite Superman stories is when he has a kid. 01:03:31 Speaker 1: And so... An alien? Okay, okay. James Gunn... Did he get birthright citizenship? James Gunn made it Truth, Justice, and the Human Way. Yeah. And then a slightly better one, which is still lame, is Truth, Justice, and a Better Tomorrow. Yeah, that's the one that they've got in the comics. The American Way is a Better Tomorrow, of course. 01:03:47 Speaker 4: Exactly. 01:03:49 Speaker 1: So yeah, so this guy worked on all of the previous... So. 01:03:53 Speaker 11: That's one of the big things that we've been noticing is everybody's starting to make the connections. is that this guy worked on the first two phases of Marvel, which. 01:04:02 Speaker 1: Iron Man? 01:04:04 Speaker 11: Iron Man 1, Iron Man 2, Spider-Man Homecoming, Guardians 1, and the original Thor's. Now, what we're all realizing is that when this guy was at Marvel. 01:04:16 Speaker 1: He made good movies. The movies were good. 01:04:18 Speaker 11: And they were also great values. And they were also focused on great values. Once they started making movies about feminism and all the woke slop. 01:04:26 Speaker 1: is when it all went downhill. 01:04:26 Speaker 8: I like this clip. I want to see this clip. Sot 3. He says he's an everyman. That feels right. 01:04:32 Speaker 1: Sot 3. 01:04:33 Speaker 3: The thing that's really exciting about Avengers is it's a whole new story. 01:04:36 Speaker 1: It's a whole new movie. 01:04:37 Speaker 3: And you don't have to have seen any other movies to really come into this and go, oh my god, this is the adventure of a lifetime. 01:04:42 Speaker 1: And that's what's really exciting. I think that's what Joss has done so well with this movie is something totally new that anybody can walk in and. 01:04:48 Speaker 4: Have a great time watching. 01:04:49 Speaker 3: We had to make a movie that was going to work for fans. But at the end of the day, we had to make a movie that was going to work for everybody, you know, that literally could work for someone who's never played the game, who's never seen the game. And that's where, like, I kind of come in and be helpful because I had never played the game. I'd never really been involved in the game. And that is not an unusual position for me. I had not been a big, I'd never read an Iron Man comic before I worked on Iron Man 1. I'd never read a Guardians comic before I worked on Guardians. I had never really read Spider-Man much before I worked on Spider-Man, which is like sacrilege because he's fricking Spider-Man. And by then I'd been at Marvel for 15 years or for 14 years. 01:05:24 Speaker 7: By the time I made that film. 01:05:25 Speaker 3: And so it's kind of crazy, but I always had this notion of like, I come to it and I bring like the every person perspective and I never want to be too close that I'm like a fan boy who's like loses perspective. 01:05:39 Speaker 7: That's a weird thing to admit is that you never really did your homework before making a movie. 01:05:44 Speaker 1: He was a producer. To be fair, he's not the director. I know, but still. I agree. You kind of got away with it. Why would you admit it now? Well, and that's the thing. Why wouldn't you just be like, oh, yeah, I like it. 01:05:59 Speaker 11: As the certified fanboy that he is talking about, I understand back when Marvel first started, Nobody knew any of these characters. 01:06:11 Speaker 1: Iron Man was not a core... Household name. core character, even in the comics. 01:06:16 Speaker 11: He was a B-list character until Marvel brought him in, and now he's an A-list character. 01:06:22 Speaker 1: So if this guy's base... If this guy's base, though, why do they call it Guardians of the Galaxy rather than Parents of the Galaxy? Because they're not parents. None of them are parents. I don't know. 01:06:32 Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure they're all like... No one gets my jokes so well. 01:06:36 Speaker 1: I try. It's a parent and or guardian. I still think it's very odd to like go down that road. Like when so many people hate you. 01:06:48 Speaker 8: I talk about jobs and industries on this show all the time, but I didn't expect to find an entire skills trade community on TikTok. Plumbers, electrician, builders and contractors sharing the work they do every day. And it went way beyond tips and tricks. People were sharing their craft. connecting with local contractors, and talking about how they were building their businesses and growing their teams. It opened my eyes to how people in the trades are using TikTok to share their skills, make connections, and find new opportunities. I remember thinking, this is exactly what we need more of, people sharing what they know and creating opportunities for others. And I never expected to find a community like this that's the thing about TikTok. You start with something you know, and suddenly you're finding a whole new side of it that surprises you and leaves you wanting to know more. Your next discovery is waiting for you on TikTok. Learn more at TikTok.com slash discover more. 01:07:40 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing, and this is what we're seeing, right? He has a catalog of movies that he's been a part of that people love. 01:07:52 Speaker 1: And now that he came out doing. 01:07:56 Speaker 11: An interview with CBN News and Christian news organizations, that's where you're seeing all of these uh the the toon kids on on x just losing their minds and everybody's like oh we're gonna get we're gonna get maga superman and you know and it's like okay well he worked on iron man and you know and this is what i said on x i was like you know he worked on iron man and yet you know what he didn't do iron man didn't come out of the desert and all of a sudden have to go get baptized like Oh, I. 01:08:29 Speaker 1: Thought you were going to say blow up Iran. I'm checking, and I'm siding with you guys now because the losers on Reddit are losing their minds. Someone just made a thread on the DC Universe subreddit. It goes, why is Jeremy Latcham's Christian faith suddenly a problem when his filmography speaks for itself? And they just point out he produced a bunch of incredibly popular superhero films. And then the people below are like, involved is doing heavy lifting. A Christian rock dweeb's a Christian rock dweeb. Add that to your list. Also, Ellison likes him. Huge red flag. 01:09:03 Speaker 7: I think the point makes a lot of sense, which is he's bringing a balanced, normal person perspective to something, making it more approachable. 01:09:14 Speaker 1: Than just for because when this is what. 01:09:16 Speaker 7: It's made big 410 picture like he's talking about dungeons and dragons which i actually this is a great movie too it makes more sense for me i never saw it but like part of the reason i didn't see is because i think dungeons and dragons is nerd stuff that like i never participated in never would and i just don't get it and so like i wouldn't go see that movie and so making something more approachable and i totally agree like iron man was became way more approachable in the way that they made it and all these different things I just think it's interesting that he was kind of admitting that he just didn't have an issue. 01:09:46 Speaker 1: And you look at how Marvel Phase 1, right? That was actually cool. Was cool, but how it also pulled people in that wouldn't have watched it. 01:09:56 Speaker 11: Now, yes, the first Avenger, like Captain America 1, did not do numbers. it actually pretty much was a flop. But it's a good movie. It's still a fun movie. 01:10:07 Speaker 4: It's a great movie. 01:10:09 Speaker 1: That's actually one of my favorite movies. Mine too. All those first ones, and I wish they would. 01:10:14 Speaker 8: Have stuck with Edward Norton for Hulk. I have no idea what the heck is going on in Marvel. There's 48 million of them, and it's like Avengers 1, Avengers 2, Avengers 3. I had no idea that Scarlett Johansson was in any of them. 01:10:30 Speaker 1: I had no idea that Jeremy, what's his? 01:10:32 Speaker 6: Redder? 01:10:33 Speaker 1: Redder, yeah. 01:10:34 Speaker 11: Who's based, by the way. 01:10:36 Speaker 8: I didn't check in for years because it was just too much slop. 01:10:40 Speaker 1: The first Avengers had both of them in it. I don't know. 01:10:45 Speaker 11: So here's a really interesting, just numbers wise. So of the Marvel films that Jeremy Lanchum was a part of, there's six films. They totaled worldwide at 5.79 billion total. Of the Marvel movies after Endgame, which is when we started to see the woke, feminist kind of story really pull in, minus the Spider-Man films, because Spider-Man is Spider-Man. 01:11:10 Speaker 1: It's going to do gangbusters anyways. 01:11:13 Speaker 11: There are 13 films, and they've done a total of $ 7. 9 billion. 01:11:17 Speaker 1: Okay, so much. So, Lasham is still, like, he's been a. 01:11:22 Speaker 8: Part of all of the good stuff. He brings in the box office. 01:11:26 Speaker 1: Jack, you got to run. You're a GW? 01:11:28 Speaker 8: Yeah, I do have to run. 01:11:29 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm at George Washington University. Turning Point Chapter is doing a veterans gala here, and they asked a veteran Navy officer to come and speak as their keynote, so I got to go get ready for that here in the next room. But Russ is 100% correct on this, and I'm very excited to see what comes out of the new phase of DC. 01:11:52 Speaker 1: Me too. All right, buddy. Have a good event. 01:11:55 Speaker 5: Christians are taking over Hollywood franchises, all right? 01:12:00 Speaker 4: Never black pill. 01:12:03 Speaker 11: It's a good white pill to be after everything. 01:12:06 Speaker 1: I just hope they don't blow it. This is true. 01:12:08 Speaker 8: This is a good time for Blake to bring up his final topic. 01:12:13 Speaker 1: Of the night. Okay, all right. Let's bring up 19. I've got to get it on my screen here. We'll do this one quick because it's horrifying, but. Also really funny kids out there. I love, yeah, you might need to get, if you have little kids, you might have to get this away. So this is, we'll try and keep it. This is short. We don't want to beat up on this too much, but this was a woman who started to get in an argument about dating, just dating discourse on X, which happens. There's a lot of it. There is a lot of it on X and a lot of it is very toxic, but it's a woman trying to say like, I stopped dating seriously for years. And still my friend said I was trying to run out of time. And then six years ago in 2020, I started to take dating seriously, but I've made zero progress towards having kids and have suffered net major trauma. My opinion of men is 10 times worse than it used to be. This can be tracked. I'm willing to settle for any man who does not make my life worse. This is my standard, and I struggle to keep it. And I want to hold out until a relationship, and I want to fix it, and instead I'm being miserable. And a lot of people are saying... You might have made some mistakes along the way. You might not have been dating as seriously for marriage as you say you are. And people are saying, and then what's funny is she asked Grok to prove that she was like super serious. And Grok comes in, actually in 2020 and 2020, you were arguing that men benefit more from marriage. Single childless women score happier. And most of your friends were men. you blah, blah, blah. And she goes, I was not dating casually in 2020 and 2021. I've moved past that. Can you check where you're saying that? And he goes, here's your tweets from 2020 and 2021. I enjoy casual sex very much more and more slutty, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then what she does. And then someone's pointing this out. Like basically don't pay attention to what women say, pay attention to what they do. Common advice for men. And then she says, What I've actually been doing since 2020 is dating seriously, and I've not been having casual sex except with prior friends with benefits or on vacation. Like, those are, like, okay. So that's really what stood out to me. Those are some huge exceptions. Listen, I haven't been having any. 01:14:19 Speaker 7: Casual sex except for all of my friends with benefits and every time I go on vacation, which is four times a year. 01:14:26 Speaker 1: Or even one time a year. Or even every other year. I want to focus in on that, because the vacation one, because I have seen that exception multiple times, and even in more relatively, you might say, chaste varieties, and I've talked to Christian women, for example, who will become, in their own words, make out whores on vacation, so they'll make out with tons of guys on vacation, and I guess that doesn't count? I didn't even know that was a thing. That is a thing. That bothers me. 01:14:56 Speaker 7: There's a reason why Like, this is, like, a real problem, like, that, like, men go to. 01:15:03 Speaker 1: There's this whole thing in America. 01:15:04 Speaker 7: Men go to Thailand and women go to Jamaica. 01:15:07 Speaker 1: Ooh. Women go to Jamaica? American women. No, it's, like, a huge problem that, like, people go down and, like, just, like, basically just... Similar one. A lot of European women will go to Senegal. Apparently Senegal is a big... I will never. 01:15:21 Speaker 7: You will never catch me in any of those countries because I don't even want to be associated with. 01:15:28 Speaker 1: Jamaica. 01:15:30 Speaker 8: So you're telling, you're basically, this is a note of, this is a PSA for any East Coasters especially, because they're the ones. 01:15:37 Speaker 1: That go to the Caribbean a lot. Go to a different island. 01:15:40 Speaker 8: If you are dating a woman and she says, man, I just love going to Jamaica, apparently you should ask follow-up questions. 01:15:47 Speaker 1: Red flag. You should do some investigative work. Make sure you ask really piercing investigative questions. Any country I want to go to is a white country. I'm really, I'm just really, I'm like really wondering what went through that woman's head or it's like, I did it. I never did anything casual except prior friends with benefits and on vacation. either one of those would be an incredible thing to admit admitting both like I almost wonder about the epistemic dating stuff on X right now it's very trending one of our commenters pointed out JM Denton points out very reasonably people in good relationships in good relationships probably rarely talk about them on X or on Reddit or really anywhere else it's like a very similar thing. There's like a good number of dating coaches and the like who exist on YouTube. 01:16:36 Speaker 8: I know there's a whole thing on X right now about, have you ever heard the expression dead, dead? 01:16:40 Speaker 4: Oh yes. 01:16:41 Speaker 6: Yes. 01:16:41 Speaker 1: Bedroom. Infinite discussion about that. That's like, that's a note's own topic unto itself. Yeah. We should actually, I mean, you can talk about that if you want. I don't want to be an expert on that. Next, next week, next week. Yeah. 01:16:52 Speaker 8: It's too, it's too big of a thing to unpack, but it's like all, I mean, This is something I've encountered with a bunch of friends over the years. They get married and maybe they have a baby or something happens and just poof, dead bedroom marriage. 01:17:09 Speaker 1: We can get into that later. That's a loaded topic. A lot of people get very upset about that one. They have whole books about it. I know. 01:17:16 Speaker 8: Like what to do if you have a dead marriage. I read this guy's... It was like a Reddit post where it was so sad. It was like, my wife resents me, but she wants to co-parent. 01:17:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just like roommates after a while. Roommates with a baby. 01:17:31 Speaker 11: Jam Denton continues, all AI is going to be trained on Reddit and X though, so relationship AI coaches are going to be great. 01:17:38 Speaker 1: Oh, dear. 01:17:39 Speaker 7: I mean, I just think that this entire thing that this girl admits online, it's like, how do you even think that that was an okay thing to admit? 01:17:49 Speaker 1: It's one of those nasty things. The fact that she just thinks that that's okay. What conversations is she having with her friends? Even if you're coming from a perspective where this is all okay. Like, if she's going, like, oh, yeah. Her argument in saying this is, like, that's how lost she is. Yeah. And, like, you know, is she telling her friends, like, after every vacation, like, oh, I slept with this guy in Miami. And they're all like, oh, you go, girl. Vacation doesn't count. Well, and it spreads. Yeah. Like, that's how, like, it's a support system. 01:18:14 Speaker 8: Look what I just found. Because I was looking up dead marriages stuff. New York Magazine posted yesterday. 01:18:20 Speaker 1: Did you guys see this? Yeah, I saw this. Oh, this is brutal. 01:18:23 Speaker 8: Look at this. I love my boyfriend, but is he rich enough? 01:18:27 Speaker 1: Oh, these women. I'm 28. 01:18:30 Speaker 8: Listen to this. I'm 28, and I've been dating my boyfriend, who's 38, for about a month. I recently went through aggressive cancer treatment. I'm in remission now. So this girl's like. 01:18:41 Speaker 1: Going through some stuff. Going through some stuff. 01:18:42 Speaker 8: Like, if you're a man trying to get a wife or something, and you're like, oh, she's gone through cancer. 01:18:49 Speaker 1: And you're sticking with her. 01:18:50 Speaker 8: Bad, but that makes me respect this guy. 01:18:53 Speaker 1: Sticking with it. 01:18:55 Speaker 8: I'm in remission now. Still, I lost my hair. I have a lot of residual health issues. Also kind of a drag if you just met her a month ago. My heart goes out to anybody in that situation. That's not what I'm saying. He's more understanding of about them than I ever could have imagined. Also, he's sweet, funny, affectionate, and very into me, a reader writes. But there are some things I can't stop thinking about. I've come to the extremely ugly realization that while I love my boyfriend, I want to marry someone richer. A girl with cancer, lost her hair, health issues, and he's sweet, funny, affectionate. 01:19:30 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. That's just hard to read. I mean, I'm kindly asking New York Magazine and other magazines that write things and publish things like this to stop destroying the relationship between men and women because civilization does depend on that existing, and we should not be recklessly instigating conflict like this. 01:19:51 Speaker 9: That's fair. 01:19:53 Speaker 6: Man. 01:19:53 Speaker 1: That's fair. It's rough. All right. Well, that was fun. Well, what a great note to end on. 01:19:58 Speaker 8: Stop liberal rags crashing traditional institutions. 01:20:01 Speaker 1: Next time on Thought Crimes. You know what's funny, though, man? 01:20:05 Speaker 8: A lot, one of the conversations that I enjoy having, like, you know, when I have to talk to reporters in DC or New York and they're all libs and all this stuff, like they all want to get married. They all want it. 01:20:14 Speaker 1: Like, well, it's like when Charlie went on the whatever podcast or, or that one, whatever. 01:20:18 Speaker 10: Yeah. 01:20:19 Speaker 1: That was, that was like with women, very liberal. I mean, some of them literally like sex workers and like, he just describes his relationship history. Like, Oh, I didn't have sex before marriage. I married one woman. And they all thought that was the most amazing and romantic and incredible thing. I remember being so nervous about him going on there. I was nervous. 01:20:36 Speaker 7: In the same way I was nervous about him dating Erica. Because I was like, I just don't know if he's going to handle this really well. 01:20:42 Speaker 1: Because it's just so... And then he crushed it. I remember Andrew and I talking. I think you called me when you were walking out of there. 01:20:51 Speaker 8: Yeah, Blake flew up with him. And then I picked him up in my car and we drove over there. 01:20:56 Speaker 1: We met. 01:20:57 Speaker 7: And you were like... dude, you have no idea. This went so good. Like so perfect. And, and I watched that back still. I'm like, this is like, this is required watching probably for people that are 21 to 28. 01:21:12 Speaker 1: I like watched cause Michael, we knew a little what we were getting to cause Michael Knowles had been on and very similar. And so like I watched the whole Knowles episode and how they reacted to everything you said. And it was just like, okay, this is what you're getting into. This is what I think would play well. I had a whole war document. It was perfect. It went very well. His everything. Do you remember when Erica messaged him? She actually did one of those paid messages that you could do to get it read, and that was such a great moment. You know what's interesting, too? I'll never forget. 01:21:41 Speaker 8: Because I think the expectation for that show was that Charlie was just going to. 01:21:45 Speaker 1: Be like, whore, you know, like people are like, you know, they wanted to create the like, yeah. Yeah. Like Tyler on the, my expectation is that he's going to blow up. Yeah. It was just like, I can't believe you guys, you know, terrible. But it was interesting. 01:22:00 Speaker 8: My wife actually texted me before. And I said, I said, you know, do you think he should go hard or soft? And she was like, she was like, I'm so glad you texted me. Tell him to be gentle. 01:22:12 Speaker 1: Gentle, please. 01:22:14 Speaker 8: And that was really how he was very soft. He was firm, clear, true, didn't compromise his values, didn't concede points, but it was soft. 01:22:22 Speaker 1: And he was gentle with them. He was like a shepherd with a lamb. that's what he was and it was. 01:22:28 Speaker 8: And that's when he was at his best and it's like there's literally a girl like to the back and it's funny because I'm sitting off camera. 01:22:34 Speaker 1: The girl you talk about the girl in like the freaking Russian military helmet it was like a see-through no that's his that's Brian Atlas who's the host that was like his staffer okay yeah But this girl sitting right next to Charlie, right. 01:22:46 Speaker 8: Next to him with a see-through top. And I was like, wow, Charlie. That and Bill Maher getting hotboxed on Bill Maher. 01:22:54 Speaker 1: Oh, that was great, too. Yeah, because I was actually just telling this story yesterday. 01:22:58 Speaker 8: You got so paranoid. 01:23:00 Speaker 1: I know. 01:23:00 Speaker 8: I saw him when he gets out of the car and he's rolling up the window. 01:23:05 Speaker 1: And I walk up. 01:23:06 Speaker 8: I was like, that went really great. 01:23:07 Speaker 1: And he was like. It was awful. I don't want to talk about it. I missed everything. It was so terrible. And I was like, no, no, you did amazing. You just did a bunch of weed. I was like, yeah, you're just really stoned. You don't know it. Because he'd never even been around weed, you know? And lo and behold, I mean, I think it was one of Bill Maher's most watched episodes. Oh, it was a great episode. And the comments under it were just amazing. That was always Charlie at his best. It probably always will be. It'll probably be one of those things. 01:23:30 Speaker 4: I'm sure. 01:23:30 Speaker 1: I don't know where it, like, pre-910. 01:23:33 Speaker 8: Yeah, probably after 910 it jumped up, but. all right it was like but i think it is like two million on its own. 01:23:41 Speaker 1: Go check it out guys it's still a great it's a great it's a timeless interview i will say i've actually grown to really like bill maher even though i don't agree with. 01:23:47 Speaker 8: Him yeah it's funny like serno's really like don't listen to bill maher and i'm like well i mean when he makes good points i don't care if. 01:23:54 Speaker 7: He says not to listen to him he is a very likable lip yeah because he's old square I. 01:24:00 Speaker 1: Disagree with him a lot, but I think he's likable. I think he's like. 01:24:04 Speaker 8: If he makes a good point, I'm going to be like, that's a good point. 01:24:06 Speaker 1: He's a straight shooter. He's not that funny in real life. 01:24:08 Speaker 8: He shouldn't be your North Star, but when he makes a good point, it's cool to be like. 01:24:12 Speaker 7: No, I wish if all the Democrats were like him still, our country would be great. 01:24:18 Speaker 1: We wouldn't have lost by a lot of points. I would be a lot happier if the liberals we were dealing with were merely degenerates. and not, you know, militant authoritarians. No, but, like, old school degenerates. 01:24:30 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:24:30 Speaker 1: Like, old school degenerates. Well, like, not, like, the weird stuff. 01:24:33 Speaker 8: Honestly, like, the Cuomo's in New York, or the Mayor Daley in Illinois, or. 01:24:37 Speaker 1: I don't even want to concede those, because those guys are, like, corrupt, too, but just... No, they're corrupt, old school... Dems are always corrupt. Like, if you just, like, if you want to smoke weed and, you know, have loose sexual morals, I don't like those things, but they're not, like, the... You're not basically demanding that we make America into a Stalinist country. 01:24:54 Speaker 8: Yeah, and that Bill Maher is anti... He's a capitalist, ultimately, and he loves America. 01:24:58 Speaker 1: Capitalist, pro-Israel. If you're a capitalist and. 01:25:01 Speaker 8: You love America, I can basically deal with you in a public forum way. The problem is that literally we have... The new guard is Hasan Piker that is those types of people. 01:25:13 Speaker 1: Zoram Amdani. Dude, it's so bad. It's getting worse. It's going to be so bad. The next 10 years are going to be... It's going to be a battle. It's going to be brutal. It's going to be war. All right. 01:25:22 Speaker 8: Well, we almost ended on a good note thinking about Charlie and then Tyler brought us down. 01:25:27 Speaker 1: Okay. 01:25:28 Speaker 6: All right. 01:25:28 Speaker 1: Without further ado, we're going to wrap it up here. This was awesome. Until next Thursday, keep committing thought crime. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.