The Real People To Blame For the ICE Shooting

00:00:03 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. 00:00:24 Speaker 2: College is a scam, everybody. 00:00:26 Speaker 3: You got to stop sending your kids to college. 00:00:27 Speaker 2: You should get married. 00:00:28 Speaker 1: As young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start at turning point you would say college chapter. Go start attning point. Yould say high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. 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Secretary right, welcome to the show. 00:01:36 Speaker 4: Andrew, thanks for having me in honor to be on the Charlie Kirk Show. 00:01:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an honor. I got to meet you recently in person on a visit to DC, so it's an honor to have you here. I was struck by the way when we met, just your enthusiasm and your energy I mean no pun intended, but just for this topic and all the great work that you're doing on the domestic side. And so I was not shocked because you strike me as a guy that has a pretty much boundless enthusiasm, energy and bandwidth. And so I was not shocked when I saw that President Trump put you and added to your portfolio the issue of venezuelan oil. So a lot of people there's a lot of confusion about how much they produce, how much they can produce, what is America's role, And now that you're in charge of kind of overseeing this project, please give us the breadth and depth of this situation as it stands. 00:02:33 Speaker 3: You bet, Look, it's an honor. 00:02:35 Speaker 4: I think this issue of Venezuela, it's sort of a perfect illustration of President Trump's broader agenda, which is prosperity at home here in America and peace abroad, because they always tied together, and in this case they're deeply tied together. Venezuela was a giant oil producer twenty thirty forty fifty years ago. American company's American investment been American technology. And then they've collapsed under a socialist, communist, top down, corrupt dictatorship that just ruined the country. 00:03:09 Speaker 3: And let's come back to Venezuela in a second. 00:03:12 Speaker 4: But for the United States, that shrinking oil going out means. 00:03:16 Speaker 3: Less oil on the market. 00:03:18 Speaker 4: On balance, it means higher oil prices, it means more refugees forced out of the country. It means they've gone into drug dealing and arms dealing, in human trafficking to make money and fund their government, all of which has bought grave negative consequences to the United States and the whole Western hemisphere. So President Trump looks at this and says, we got to stop this immigration of drugs and people and guns and support for the adversaries of the United States, Iran in Russia and other terrorist organizations in Venezuela. This is hurt in America. We've got to fix that problem. But it's not troops on the ground. We're not invading Venezuela. But the last twenty five years of pressure as Venezuela's just gone down the tube haven't worked. President Trump was creative and thoughtful. How do we do this, How do we use energy and commerce to reform the state of Venezuela. 00:04:13 Speaker 3: So I'm thrilled with what he's done. 00:04:15 Speaker 4: Arresting someone that President Biden had a fifteen million dollar bounty on the head of Nicholas Maduro. It is not controversial. This guy has run a narco terrorist state. That guy is now in custody with his wife, facing trial. 00:04:30 Speaker 3: And we're using the leverage over. 00:04:33 Speaker 4: Energy sales to get the existing interim authorities in Venezuela to work with the United States to pivot that country in a better direction. A better direction, reduces crime, reduces drug dealing, reduces stressors on the American economy, and ultimately can bring prosperity, which is what capitalism freedom brings back to Venezuela, and it can bring lower energy prices and enormous business opportunities for Americans. 00:05:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we definitely agree with you on the opportunity. I see the opportunity. I have so many questions though. There's questions about you know, how much oil is there in Venezuela, right, there's there's allegations that those that was great it was. 00:05:15 Speaker 5: People have pointed out that they're saying it's is that the most oil in the world, But then that goes back to OPEC, and OPEC goes on national estimates and in theory Venezuela was exaggerating. Yeah, do we have any hard knowledge on that, Secretary. 00:05:29 Speaker 3: Oh, we do. 00:05:29 Speaker 4: Look, American companies have been on the ground in Venezuela for over one hundred years, so that three hundred billion barrels have proved reserve. 00:05:37 Speaker 3: It's actually a credible number. 00:05:39 Speaker 4: But when you hear these numbers, understand all of them are wild under. 00:05:44 Speaker 3: Estimates of the actual oil in the ground. 00:05:48 Speaker 4: The United States is reserved today are about fifty billion barrels of oil, so only a sixth of Venezuela. But we produced twenty times as much crude oil, and the United States reserves today are the highest they've ever been. So for it really was your total underground. Well, we've been producing oil for one hundred and fifty years. Why isn't our number going down? Our numbers going up? So you know, it's a narrow measure of with today's technology and at today's price, how much oil could you lift out of the ground that we know about right now. So Venezuela's reserves are immense. 00:06:22 Speaker 3: That is very real. 00:06:24 Speaker 4: So but you can't that oil underground doesn't meaningthing. You need technology, capital, and rule a lot to get it out. But that's what America is aiming to bring back. 00:06:33 Speaker 2: So I've read that you've met with Conoco, Phillips, Chevron, Examobile. Now these were oil fields infrastructure that were owned by American companies. Previously they were expropriated by Hugo Chavez and maduro A. I've also read that this the revenue from oil sales will go into American controlled accounts. How does that work? So you sell some oil from Venezuela, you got to buyer. The money goes into an account. 00:07:01 Speaker 4: What happens then, See normally before they shipped tankers around the world, even though we had sanctions on them. That Biden administration and too many others don't enforce those sanctions, so that oil goes out. It was mostly going to China, mostly going to China and Cuba and other not crystal not class A actors in the world. And then that money was flowing into Venezuela. Some of it was going to the government, some of it was going to corruption people. You know, there was that corruption is centered around the raising of that money. 00:07:36 Speaker 3: What's happening. 00:07:36 Speaker 4: Then we put a blockade around, said you can't sell oil to the world. Well, Venezuela can't survive long without selling oil to the world. Drug Enforcement Agency with the help of the Department of War, extracted Venezuela, I mean Maduro and his wife out of the country and we just began a dialogue with him. Do you want to sell oil? Well, of course they want to sell oil. We said, well, look this is how we're going to sell oil. We're going to let the tankers go out. We'll market that oil, we'll actually get a better price and more secure payment, much more than they could, and we'll put that money into an account and we'll bring that money back to Venezuela. But it gives us the leverage to change their behavior, to stop their destructive activity for America and Americans, and steer their policies in a better direction. 00:08:22 Speaker 3: Old with the ultimate goal to lead to. 00:08:24 Speaker 4: A representative government in Venezuela, restore freedom, democracy and prosperity. 00:08:30 Speaker 2: So it is a giant geopolitical chessboard here that we're moving around. And so the question is does that money then get shared directly with, you know, the Venezuelan companies or are American companies going to come back in and they're going to be profit sharing you know, I think that's the question. And then are they ready to make that investment once again, mister secretary. 00:08:57 Speaker 4: So look, Chevron is still in the country, and there's little changes we can make that can allow Chevron to expand their production. But what will bring American oil companies back, and believe me, there are tons of them that are very anxious to come back, is just to believe that the rule of law will be respected and that the commercial agreements they can make are in the best interests of their country. You know, way Venezuelan government owes lots of them billions of dollars. 00:09:24 Speaker 3: So, yes, there's an ugly history here. 00:09:27 Speaker 4: But our belief is, and I think these companies share that belief, is that with President Trump's leadership and the leverage we have today, we can move things forward in Venezuela. So it's once again it's once again a profitable place for American businesses to go because, of course both sides win. If the oil companies make money, they're going to produce more oil. A lot of the revenue from that oil production goes into the government of Venezuela, but it also goes into the paychecks and economies. 00:09:57 Speaker 3: Of the country as a whole. 00:09:59 Speaker 4: So there's just Venezuela fifty years ago is one of the wealthiest per capita nations in the cut in the world, and they've just collapsed. 00:10:08 Speaker 2: President Trump walked into a catch twenty two when taking office. Do nothing in America would be staring at a ticking debt bomb, the kind of crisis that could cripple our future. Instead, he's taken action with strong policies to slow the train and buy us some time. But the effects of past administration spending are still working through the system, and experts predict dramatic price increases and market uncertainty. 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I was blown away, just on a more personal level, just how much insight you have about so many different areas, And I think you have been doing a tremendous job at the Department of Energy. And you guys, by the way, your portfolio. People don't understand how large the portfolio is at the Department of Energy. You guys have a lot of different avenues and projects that you work on that people wouldn't as. 00:11:38 Speaker 5: Nuclear arsenal, the nuclear nuclear Yeah, by the way, are. 00:11:42 Speaker 2: You pro nuclear, mister secretary? 00:11:44 Speaker 4: Oh? 00:11:44 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. 00:11:46 Speaker 4: I went to college to work on nuclear energy, you know, as a seventeen year old kid. So yes, we want to launch a nuclear renaissance. We are also the designers and constructors of the nuclear weapons arsenal for the United States, the nuclear engines that power our submarines and aircraft carriers, and maybe least known, the seventeen National Labs, which are the greatest Nobel Prize winning factories on planet Earth, and that are the anchor of our Genesis AI mission that we're launching in the country. So you're right, the Department of Energy is sort of broadly national security, science, engineering, and energy. 00:12:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now geopolitics, well, I mean I think probably always geopolitics. So we're getting these you know, I don't want to keep I know you got an out here, but you're we saw this GDP number get revised up where you know we're seeing numbers like four point three four point nine. How much of the success of the Trump administration economically is starts with you and the the the energy policies that the President is outlined. 00:12:56 Speaker 4: Well, look, energy is I call it the infrastructure. It's the basic plumbing of any economy. If you get energy wrong, nothing else matters. If you get energy right, you've just got a land of opportunity manufacturing overturn there you can win an AI race for example, versus China. So yeah, energy is pretty foundational on that and regulatory reform, which is all the departments are working on that. We've got to make it so you can build big things in America again and invest in our country. 00:13:23 Speaker 3: I think President's leadership is. 00:13:26 Speaker 2: You're so correct to bring confidence. 00:13:28 Speaker 5: Everything comes from everything comes from energy. Like if you just look at the industry revolution, all the industrial revolution was was you increased access to the energy to do work. And every step where we've taken a big leap forward technologically has just been more and cheaper energy, and the path of decline is deciding, oh, we need to reduce our energy usage cap it reduce. 00:13:48 Speaker 2: It, mister secretary, you know the Industrial revolution was sparked Blake made an apt observation by access to cheaper and better energy sources. You have done a breakdown between red states and Blue states, and I know we're getting a little off the venezuela oil topic here, but how stark is the difference in energy policy and then prices between Red states and Blue states. 00:14:12 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't know how many people would love a little more than fifty percent increase in their electricity prices, but that's the difference between blue states. If you average across all the Blue states, and you average across all the Red states, blue states are over fifty percent higher electricity prices. And that's not bad luck. Those are just political choices. Back to this energy thing, restrictive policies that make energy more expensive. Somehow Blue states think that's virtuous, but in reality, it's just impoverishing for citizens, and it's just a dissuasion for businesses to want to locate there, which is why there's continual migration from blue high energy price states to red, low energy price pro freedom states. 00:14:55 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm looking at a chart right here. So they measure power costs in kill a loot hours. It's kind of like a common measure of energy. And Texas twelve cents per kilo lot hour, Florida thirteen cents per kilo lot hour, California thirty cents per kilo lot hour. So that's three times as much electricity. That affects, Yeah, your home power bill. But imagine you're running a factory, Imagine you are making something. Those can take a ton. 00:15:18 Speaker 2: Of energy businesses. It's even worse in Europe. 00:15:21 Speaker 5: The reason factories are leaving Europe. UK can't make anything, Germany is unable to make things anymore is they've made their electricity prices too high, and you can't run a power plant. You can't run a plant. 00:15:31 Speaker 2: I'm certain that the Secretary has strong opinions on this because I've seen some of the reporting on your critiques of European energy policy. Mister Secretary. 00:15:41 Speaker 4: No, you're right on if you make energy more expensive. If they did it saying they were fighting climate change, if you look at the data on emissions, they didn't do anything in that regard. But when they made energy more expensive, they just exported their industry. They you know, they all these factories Germany and the United them these are the birthplaces of the industrial revolution. They just sent all their industry to China and elsewhere in Asia. And if you look at that after the financial crisis, that's when there was a huge pivot in energy policies. 00:16:13 Speaker 5: It's so important that energy stuff. It's amazing when you look at the chart where it's. 00:16:17 Speaker 2: Just every big leap forward. 00:16:20 Speaker 5: It almost can make civilization deterministic, where they'll look at like, oh, why did you know, why did Rome fall or something? Or why did this Chinese dynasty fall? And they'll say, well, it actually just seems that the price of energy on the primitive forms they use got too high and they couldn't contain civilization and. 00:16:34 Speaker 2: Crazy foundational like the energy policy of this Trump administration versus the Biden administration versus Europeans, it couldn't be more stark. And it actually is the foundational choice, the first choice in a series of dominoes that falls after or whether you're going to be pro growth or anti growth. It's really that that foundational And I was going to ask the Secretary to bring it back full circle to on Venezuela, how does this help us domestically, because again the base Trump voters America. First, they're skeptical about foreign interventions. But this is Western Hemisphere. It's oil, it's energy. It's also kicking out our adversaries out of the Western Hemisphere to metal around in our business. But there will be downstream positive impacts not only for American companies but American consumers. So, yes, Caleb was watching. He says, somebody cut the power to the energy secretary. I know, I agree, it was probably probably the Chinese blake. Let's go ahead and pivot though. The main story of the day obviously is Minneapolis. Oh yes, exactly, Why don't you set the table for us what happened in Minneapolis. 00:17:40 Speaker 5: This was happening during the show yesterday. We didn't have the chance to react to it. We let me make sure I've got the stuff for it. We didn't have a chance to react to it, but it was breaking at the time, and we got videos right after the show. So what happens is ICE has surged into Minneapolis. They're doing raids, and by extension, we're getting all the things that the left has trained people to do against ICE in last year. You have people following them, you have people harassing them, you have people trying to clog up traffic, and unfortunately, yesterday it did a result in a fatal shooting. And I guess we may as well just play it. So this occurred yesterday in somewhere in Minneapolis. Let's play two seventy five. Okay, there's no audio on this one, but they're approaching and they're saying, get out of the car, get out of the car. She backs up and then she accelerates away. And what happens is there was an ice agent behind the one you could see approaching. 00:18:39 Speaker 2: The side, who is directly in front. 00:18:40 Speaker 5: He was in front of the car, and she sort of turns away from but she brushes against his leg and he'd already I believe, drawn his weapon at that point, and I think in the split second he reached the conclusion she was possibly trying to run him over, and he shot through the front window and killed her instantly. 00:18:57 Speaker 2: And then you can see it in slow motion. Right there, there's a second angle which clearly shows that the ice agent was actually hit. It clipped, and there's you can also see her wheels are spinning out because it's icy, it's cold, her wheels spin out. She's that when the shot is fired. If you freeze frame it, her wheels are actually turned towards the Ice officer. I suspect that the wheels only turned to the right once the officer drew his his firearm. I looked at this clip by clip last night. Here's three hundred clip three hundred. This is with sound. Make sure we don't have any swear words in this clip. Three hundred. 00:19:44 Speaker 6: No. No. 00:19:58 Speaker 2: So here's what's interesting though. This thirty seven year old woman, apparently she has a female partner, the kid. First question, I don't know what a thirty seven year old woman is with a kid is doing out there, going head to head with Ice agents doing some sort of like citizen vigilanti, you know, observing. That's not observing. She was obstructing. And here's a witness that actually basically defines this lady as the main car leading the protest to anyone. 00:20:30 Speaker 7: They clearly wanted her out of there because she was the main car leading the protest, is my understanding. I talked to another guy who was driving behind her, but she was she was very at she was very successful in blocking traffic. She was doing what she was what she was set out to do, and so they wanted to get her the hell out of there. 00:20:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it. 00:20:56 Speaker 8: Looked like she was impeding ice vehicle, definitely. 00:20:59 Speaker 5: Yeah, And that was her goal. 00:21:01 Speaker 2: That was her goal. That was her goal. 00:21:03 Speaker 5: Well, so I think my read on it is I don't believe she was attempting to run anyone over. 00:21:08 Speaker 2: I think in. 00:21:11 Speaker 5: Actually all have longer thoughts on this. Yeah, so I'll want a strong reaction to that. But I think this was a tragic accident. But the most important takeaway is it's a tragic incident that's been caused by the left strategy to harass ice, to intimidate Ice, and ultimately, the Left wanted something like this to happen. 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I saw Speaker Johnson's comments who. 00:23:11 Speaker 8: Immediately says that there's been. 00:23:14 Speaker 9: This effort to encourage people to engage in violence with law enforcement officers. 00:23:19 Speaker 1: That's not true. 00:23:20 Speaker 2: I haven't seen that anywhere. Okay, well that's not true. 00:23:23 Speaker 5: Our team whipped up a montage of some stuff. 00:23:25 Speaker 2: Let's play to eighty. 00:23:27 Speaker 5: When I see ICE, I see slave patrolls picked up. 00:23:30 Speaker 2: You know, hooded thugs in the street. 00:23:32 Speaker 1: ICE, you know thugs, nondescript thugs like vigilantes. 00:23:38 Speaker 7: ICE is a terrorist organization and kidnapping and. 00:23:41 Speaker 1: Disappearing people, stealing and yes, kidnapping people. 00:23:45 Speaker 4: The Vice mayor allegedly calling on gang members to defend the city from these immigration rates. I want to know where all the trollers are at in Los Angeles. 00:23:54 Speaker 1: Stop mass ICE agents from deporting our neighbor. 00:23:57 Speaker 10: Every single one of them, no matter what it takes, No matter how long it takes, will of course be identified. 00:24:04 Speaker 8: Our police do not cooperate with ICE. 00:24:07 Speaker 10: Our local police department will not ever cooperate with ICE. 00:24:15 Speaker 2: Democrats told to get shot for the anti Trump resistance, and there needs to be blood to grab the attention of the press and the public. 00:24:24 Speaker 5: That last one is the really revealing one, and like and you can find more. You can find articles that call them the American Gestapo. You can find tweets and blue Sky whatever they call a blue Sky post, like the American. 00:24:37 Speaker 2: Ss Oh, we have him. 00:24:38 Speaker 5: Ah, I'll have to complete this afterwards with this, that's all right, Let's jump to the senator, right. 00:24:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, Senator Eric Schmidt, welcome to the show. You are a former state ag of the great state of Missouri, and you're a lawyer. You know there is this hole back and forth online. Vice President jad Vance chimed in. I thought this was I literally did not realize this would be a contentious point. One of the points that the left is making is that this shooting was unjustified because this woman's a US citizen and this ICE agent is not a cop. It's an ICE agent, so that the US citizens don't have to obey orders from an ICE agent. 00:25:17 Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't. 00:25:18 Speaker 10: That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. 00:25:20 Speaker 8: Yes, First of all, what it appears. 00:25:23 Speaker 10: From what I saw on the couple of angles on the video is that she was impeding efforts by ICE agents to do their jobs. You're not supposed to be able to do that. She was given direction to sort of stop doing that, and then this ICE officer was struck. And when you put that in the context of vehicular assaults up over one thousand percent across the country on ICE agents and the demonization that's happened over the course of the last year by the left against ICE agents, it's created a powder keke guys like I was in a committee hearing and talked about this. The Democrats rhetoric on this is insane. But as far as this goes specifically, if if the officer fears for his life or significant body of the harm, he can defend himself, which is what was happening there, right, I mean the angle of you know, and by the way, you notice the tires sort of skid out too, which also reveals that the car was a little bit out of sort of control, but appears to be from everything that I've seen justified. 00:26:21 Speaker 8: It's a tragic situation. 00:26:22 Speaker 10: I mean, anytime you have a loss of life, it's a tragic situation. But what's really strange about all this is that the Democrats, I'm surprised this hadn't happened sooner, but they continue to sort of create these conditions for confrontations with ICE agents who are supposed to do their jobs. And one last point, like deportations are nothing new, like Bill Clinton deported millions of people, what's different now is the Democrats actually in the left, they don't actually believe in borders. They don't actually believe that anybody should ever have to go home, that once you're here, you should stay here in perpetuity. And they've created the villains, these ICE agents who are fathers and sons and daughters and aunts and uncles who are just doing their jobs. And what you'll never hear the left say. You'll never hear them say this, guys, is you know what, step away and let the ICE agents do their jobs because they don't want them to. They don't want them to. So it's a terrible situation. But yes, an American citizen has to obey orders from ICE agents when they're impeding the progress of what the ICE agents are trying to do, and you certainly don't have the right to try to run them over. 00:27:32 Speaker 5: Senator, do you think there's any potential We just there's so much deliberate will to get people to go out there to harass ice target ICE. We've had car like why did this happen? This happened because we've already had car ramming attacks on ICE agents. We've seen people encouraged to use cars as a weapon. This is directly encouraged by a lot of lawmakers. I feel at some point there's got to be room for prosecuting someone in that they are basically developed being a conspiracy to sabotage federal law enforcement in their city or in their state. 00:28:06 Speaker 8: Yeah, well I do think that. 00:28:07 Speaker 10: Yeah, federal prosecutors should be very aggressive in this regard to send a very clear message. But the Democrats send the le they they're seizing on this, and I have to say, just from a stepping away from a pure political perspective here, now they can't help themselves. This is such a part of their DNA. Now it reminds me a lot of the kind of beginnings of the defund the police movement that then became to define their party. This is them not wanting law enforcement to do their jobs. They're willing to dox these people. They're willing to you know, try to run over them. They're and then that's the you know. Then you have the Antifa element, which are sort of the foot soldiers of all this, who deliberately, you know, throw firecrackers to lure ICE agents out of federal facilities so they can be assaulted. 00:28:55 Speaker 8: They have safe houses, so you. 00:28:57 Speaker 10: Have a more organized effort with Antifa, for sure, which is why we were successful in petitioning with Marco Rubio to not only have them be declared a domestic terrorist organization but also a foreign terrorist organization to get after their funding and shut these people down internationally. That's all part of this, but it's very coordinated. 00:29:15 Speaker 8: There's no doubt. 00:29:16 Speaker 10: They share tactics and you create dangerous situations like the one you had in Minnesota. 00:29:21 Speaker 2: These they call them citizens observers, and they end up being harassers, stalkers of ICE agents, DHS Border patrol, and they are sophisticated. They have lawyers standing by that are paid for by a network of NGOs that are financed by god knows who, and this is increasing. This tactic of ramming and harassing ICE agents is increasing. Let's hear from Secretary Nome directly on this two ninety nine. 00:29:45 Speaker 11: Today, alone in this country, there have been four different domestic terrorist attacks on federal officers by the ramming of vehicles. Three of them happened here in Minneapolis. We've seen over one hundred of these vehicle rammings been in just recent weeks, and this must stop. ICE alone is facing a thirteen hundred percent increase in assaults against them and an eight thousand percent increase in death threats against all of them. In fact, the very same officer who was attacked today had previously been dragged by an anti ICE rider who had rammed him with a car and drug him back in June. He sustained injuries at that time as well. 00:30:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is so it's increasing, obviously. Here's my question for you, slightly off topic of that. Though you have local officials. The local police chief says he will arrest this person if he gets an order from a judge. You have city council members that are saying this person needs to be arrested. Lieutenant Governor is saying that it's absolutely a possibility. So if he faces state charges but federally everybody's saying he's fine, what then happens next? 00:30:49 Speaker 8: Yeah? 00:30:50 Speaker 10: Well, first of all, let me just point out, and I was in the Oval Office actually yesterday afternoon when this kind of news broke and was with the President and learned about even then as as Secretary Noame minj and that this officer in particular had been dragged just a few months ago. Right, So like this person in particular had been involved in another one of these incidents. But to answer your sort of legal question, what will happen if that? And I Keith Ellison is is a clown, So I would imagine that the temptation for him not to show the restraint that you're supposed to as an attorney general. I mean I wrote a book, The Last Line of Defense, on all this stuff I did as Attorney General. You could write another book on all the things you didn't do, because you want people in those positions that have some regard for the law, right, because it's a very powerful position. So if he does charge the officer, what will happen then? Is that case, because of their federal agents would likely be removed to federal court. So because of supremacy clauses issues, that would likely be removed, and then he would have all the defenses available he would in the federal court system. So I don't think there's any chance that this would stay in state court. Quite frankly, but that might be the move that Ellison wants. 00:31:57 Speaker 2: We'll see this whole incident takes place obviously upon this Somali backdrop, the fraud rings. You are introducing legislation to be able to denaturalize people that become citizens. Tell us about it. 00:32:10 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's called the Scam Act. 00:32:11 Speaker 10: And I think what we've seen in Minneapolis, and by the way, I think is probably just the tip of the iceberg, but particularly the Somali strongholds across the country, you've seen this kind of abuse with is really kind of pathological. There ought to be a response, and the responsor to be swift. So one we should move forward with stricter fraud controls. As a condition for being able to accept money, there needs to be greater verification of who's actually getting the money. 00:32:35 Speaker 8: Right. 00:32:36 Speaker 10: That seems very obvious to like a normal person, but it isn't actually baked in in a lot of these blue states because governors don't want to do that. We should insist that as federal dollars go out the door. Secondly, there ought to be real prosecutions at DOJ, like make this a priority and send a very important message to these immigrant communities who think they can fleece taxpayers. But what my bill does specifically, it says that if you're part of one of these efforts, or you're involved in a violent felony, or you're involved in you know, other kinds of felonies that we list in this in the legislation we're filing this week, you will be denaturalized if it's proven that you did that, naturalized and it's a fifteen year look back. 00:33:13 Speaker 8: Right. There isn't currently anything on the books that will allow this. So that's what we were with. 00:33:17 Speaker 2: If they are scamming the system, you're introducing legislation that they could be their citizenship could be stripped. 00:33:24 Speaker 8: Correct, That's absolutely correct. 00:33:26 Speaker 10: I think that's where we're at right now, because you know, we talk so much about illegal immigration, and we should. Thankfully we have a border, but there's deportations in closed border and we have to deportations, but we don't talk enough about legal immigration, right and the abuses that are taking place, whether it's H one B or the OPT program, which we're sort of working on to try to get that rained in because there's a lot of abuse. But in this instance where someone's been naturalized and they claim that they're going to be good citizens and have good character, there really isn't a good mechanism right now that if you're not that person you say you're going to be, that you would be denaturalized and sent back home. That's what this legislation will do. Say, look, if you can, if you're part of these scams, if you join a cartel, if you are involved in a violent felony, guess what, We're going to denaturalize you and send you back where you came from. 00:34:13 Speaker 2: Well, I one hundred percent support it. Uh is there any chance of it passing? 00:34:18 Speaker 10: I mean we'll see. Uh, We're we're going to have a House partner. Hopefully the House would move it quickly and then we'll try to move forward and the Senate on it. I mean, look, we have to have a response to this kind of stuff. But you know, I worry that Democrats are so in for this mass migration criteria for their party. 00:34:35 Speaker 8: It's in their DNA, but we're going to work hard on it. 00:34:37 Speaker 2: Well, I I yeah, I mean I worry about Republicans too. You're one of the great ones. Yeah, that's yeah. Center, we have your back one hundred percent. Keep keep pushing this. It's important. If we don't get at this round, you keep expanding the Overton window. Thank you, sir, Thank you for making us guys. 00:34:53 Speaker 8: Thanks for all you do. Talk take care. 00:34:57 Speaker 9: This is Lane Schoenberger, chief investment officer, founding partner of y Refi. It has been an honor and a privilege to partner with Turning Point and for Charlie to endorse us. 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So many people feel stuck. Go to y refight dot com. That is y R e f y do private student loan debt relief wyrefi dot com. 00:36:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, Blake, let's close the loop here really quick, because you were winding up on this Minnesota topic. I want, I want, I want to let you go off here. Yeah. 00:36:14 Speaker 5: Yeah, So we were just before the senator came on. We were talking about the violence, you know, the violent rhetoric against Ice, the really hateful stuff American gestapo, American SS and that montage we played ended on Let's let's throw up picture two ninety one. 00:36:30 Speaker 2: It's that line. 00:36:31 Speaker 5: What you need to be do you need to do, is you need to be willing to get shot when you're visiting these ice folds or when you're asking these agents they psyched these people up. Are you prepared to be shot? This is this violent rhetoric. And the thought the comparison that actually. 00:36:47 Speaker 2: Came to mind. 00:36:48 Speaker 5: A friend of mine made it and it was really brilliant, was he said, the less rhetoric against ICE is a lot like the strategy used by Hamas in Gaza. And so what they do is they do two things simultaneously. They promote actual violence against against ICE or you know, in the case against the idea if they do actual violent stuff, but they also encourage more normal rank and file people to do really provocative and edge case behavior. So get in their face, like rub up against them, do all the stuff that's right to the lines, swear, get in their face, and you know, take non they take the non violent people and they make them go as close to the border of violence as possible. And what they're basically doing is they're intentionally trying to engineer a situation like this. 00:37:39 Speaker 2: Read the news. 00:37:39 Speaker 5: You can easily find examples of this. You've had ramming attacks on ICE agents in Chicago. You've had these criminal blockades against ice operations all over and you have people saying, oh, shoot them do stuff. In fact, we learned today the agent who was involved in this shooting last year was hospitalized because he was trying to stop in illegal alien and he got d in their car, like he put his hand through the door and they drove and they drag him. That was probably going through his mind as this was unfolding their hers. And so what they've been doing is they're trying to engineer a situation where everyone's jumpy. This is what, like I said, I made the Hamas comparison for a reason. What they'll do is they encourage people. Any person who's in the IDEF knows, Okay, these guys could be a suicide bomber, they could have a hidden gun, they could do something, or they might they might just be one of the gazillions of people who are trying to get in their face and do all this disruptive stuff. And they do this in a calculated effort where they know this will eventually lead to unfortunate situations where someone gets shot who wasn't a suicide bomber, who wasn't armed, and they do this for a cynical calculator. The reason they're using these people as human shields. They are trying to create pr victories, and that is what has happened here. People on the left deliberately encouraged activities like what what this woman did because they know it could eventually result and someone gets shot. If they didn't want people shot, they would say, we're going to protest deportations. We're going to protest against the Trump administration's immigration policies. But don't get in ICE's way. Allow ICE to do their work. They are the government, and you allow police to do their stuff to avoid violence, and instead they have done the opposite. They have gotten in the face of these people because they want something like this to happen. These people wanted this woman to die. They planned for this to happen. They are strategizing on how to exploit it. They are secretly very happy that this occurred because it is politically useful to them, and they are the ones who are responsible for this happening. It is not Ice. Ice is doing their job. The people who are responsible for this are the ones who instigated this woman and others to sabotage valid law enforcement to get in the way of valid law enforcement and to cause incidents where someone could die. Period, and we can't back off from that point, regardless of how this exact situation went down. 00:40:01 Speaker 2: I felt the very same way when George Floyd was killed, exactly, empfelt. 00:40:06 Speaker 5: It shows the improvement of how we've our understanding of the left's tactics compared to twenty twenty. 00:40:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've built up immunities to it. Three twenty seven. Can you throw that up? ICE agents who opened fire on Renee Good was dragged hospitalized by illegal migrant driver last year you mentioned this. This was it's been proven documented that shows that this is a repeat action that they're trying to get in their face. They keep ramming, they keep harassment people to flee. 00:40:33 Speaker 5: They you know, you've got these flights, you've got if they want every ICE agent to feel jumpy and worried, and that's what causes. 00:40:41 Speaker 2: Mishootings in the end. And we don't know that this is a mistake necessarily, but it causes unfortunate incidents to happen, exactly, you know, And I kind of agree with you. I don't believe that this woman was trying to run him over necessarily, but she was willing to like take a car, hit the gas so fast that it would spin out to try and flee from them, and to hell with where she was pointing. She didn't seem to care at that moment because she just. 00:41:03 Speaker 5: Made they'd psyped her up. Oh, these masked men will kidnap you, and just gstopas coming for the Gestapo's coming after you, as opposed to ICE are real police. If they order you to do something, you have to listen and like a normal thing, a normal reaction that the right has to learn to say is if you do not listen to what police tell you, and ICE are police, you may die. That is part of life. If you don't listen to police, you might die. That is a consequence of ignoring valid law enforcement. 00:41:32 Speaker 2: As well said her sole purpose of being there was to block the red yes, impeding, obstructing, harassing, potentially attacking. 00:41:46 Speaker 4: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charlie Kirk dot com