Say No To Doomerism + The DSA Murderers Row Goes To Michigan

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There is so much to look for because this would be the first Muslim senator. Should he be successful in winning the state of Michigan, which he has a very good shot of winning, should he be elected. 00:02:15 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean it looks like I think he's the favorite to win it. He certainly has all of the viral energy, he has all of the intensity focused on him. And as we were discussing the other day, if we if we ignore these lunatic DSA types if we just dismiss them, they will have a way of just winning. 00:02:38 Speaker 4: And then what Emerson College has LSI ed at fifty four and Hailey Stevens the more centrist, I guess moderate, she's quite the character herself actually at thirty nine percent. Mitchell Research which is from late July, has Elsai ed at fifty two percent, Stevens at thirty eight percent. Tavern Research, also from late July, has Elsai had at forty six and Steve a thirty six. So he's probably gonna win tonight, and we he does not claim the mantle of being a DSA, a Democrat Socialist in America, which is basically, uh, the far left looney tune bin of the party. And listen, they're ascended. I'm not trying to make light of them, but it is a looney tune group of people. These ideas are crazy. But he doesn't put that mantle on him. But I think that's a that's a political ploy that is a posturing, that is marketing that has spin because guess what he's been hanging out with hasan piker top five stressed out. 00:03:36 Speaker 3: No, it's just it's like the weight is what kills you out. Yeah, just wait. 00:03:42 Speaker 6: You know there's and I don't poles don't vote. 00:03:45 Speaker 3: When people vote, exactly. 00:03:47 Speaker 6: There's a lot of inshall line that he's happening. 00:03:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of inshall la that is happening. And that's with hasan piker who reminded that, just to remind you, said that America deserved nine to eleven. He wants to see capitalist blood spilled on the streets. This guy is absolutely beyond the pale. I think he incites violence against conservatives and he's a bad dude. He's a silverspoon kid that was happened to be born in America, raised in Turkey, and then comes back to America to torment us. And he is rising in political influence, political power, and he has put his stamp of approval on LSIED. 00:04:25 Speaker 2: Now. 00:04:25 Speaker 4: The good news is is it does seem that Mike Rodgers on the Republican side is doing pretty. 00:04:31 Speaker 2: Well in the polling. 00:04:32 Speaker 4: Hopefully the voters of Michigan will reject this craziness, this latest edition of dsa murderer's row. 00:04:41 Speaker 2: In that state. 00:04:42 Speaker 4: But the fact that we're this close is a five alarm fire to everybody elseide could very well win Michigan. There's a lot of headwinds against Republicans going into this midterm, and we could have our first far left progressive I call him a DSA and a Muslim as senator. 00:05:00 Speaker 2: Out of the state of Michigan. 00:05:01 Speaker 4: This is a absolute civilizational five alarm firefolks. I cannot stress this enough, and so we have to play these clips. What does he believe? What does he stand for? Let's hear his take on what America was founded upon, not two and on the removal. 00:05:18 Speaker 7: Of the whole people. 00:05:21 Speaker 8: Founded on the idea that we could hop lives on whether or not people as a function of the color of their skin could be enslaved with other people. Pal did under the idea that all people are created equal own men, but that only meant certain men phenomenal. 00:05:41 Speaker 4: So this is a self described proud son of Africa Blake coming to the state of Michigan telling Americans about how horrible our founding was. 00:05:52 Speaker 5: This is. 00:05:54 Speaker 2: The new normal, I suppose, yeah. 00:05:55 Speaker 5: I mean, as you said, he he might reject the label of social life, but the reason we're so easy eager to append him to it is he he certainly comes with what you might consider all the other ideological baggage of modern socialism, which is seeing America as fundamentally illegitimate, really wearing as a badge of pride, how not historically American he is. So he's aggressively Islamic. He as we've noted repeatedly, he noted he wasn't going to He noted a lot of people were mourning the death of the Ayatola in his district, and so that was sending people had to work through. He's got I mean, he has, he helped open I'm reading now this is from Chuck Ross over at the Washington Free Beacon that he helped speak at the opening of an Islamic center in Michigan. Who's a mom is now saying that people have a duty today to vote against the Zionist puppet. And by the Zionist puppet, he doesn't mean the Republican, he means the Democrat that Lsaya is against, who is a Zionist puppet, and you know needs to go and they have to deal a blow against the Zionist menace, as it were. And that's what this guy represents. It is a categorically anti American attitude to take. And you know, if we get this Guy as a senator from Michigan. And if we have Francesca Hong winning out of Wisconsin with her platform of abolishing Thanksgiving, it's going to represent like a new frontier for the Democratic Party. And the Democrats have had bad ideas for a long time. We think their policies do not work best for America, and they've definitely done destructive stuff as they did in twenty twenty. But this will be a pivot of the Democratic Party into full euro Leftism, with total civilizational solvent, permanent open borders, permanent end to free markets, permanent end to really America itself. 00:08:00 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:08:00 Speaker 4: And on that open borders, I mean he is promised to give driver's license to illegal immigrants. This is six This is a clip on Earth from twenty eighteen. 00:08:09 Speaker 6: Beyond that, I look forward to pushing forward legislation that would preempt localities from participating with ICE and using their local resources to do the same. Beyond that, we've also got to make sure that in this state we are not discriminating by documentation status. Right now, if you're undocumented, you don't get access to a driver's license, so you're stuck. You don't get access to a lot of the basic things the state offers everybody else. And I think that's ridiculous. And so we've got to stop discrimination discriminating that way. 00:08:38 Speaker 2: Bad idea upon bad idea. And here's him, and we mentioned the clip. 00:08:42 Speaker 4: He's pandering to Roland Martin of all people, calling himself a proud son of Africat seven. 00:08:47 Speaker 9: Let's step back and ask why we lost in twenty twenty four. Too often we lost young people, we lost Arab and Muslim voters. I'm an Egyptian American, I'm a proud son of Africa, and I'm also proudly Arab and Muslim American. I think we have an opportunity to bring communities together, to bring back the voters that too often we lost, to win the future for our state. Take back our state from Donald Trump. 00:09:09 Speaker 4: Proud son of Africa coming to you, folks in Michigan. 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Our bill, so he's proposing a new bill allows states to sponsor visas tailored to their unique workforce needs while ensuring rigorous federal vetting and accountability. This tweet of his has two hundred and forty two likes compared to three point six thousand comments. It is going viral for all the wrong reasons. That is a ratio for the record books. Now Here is my response to Senator Curtis and then Blake, I want yours. They have been telling us the American people this same lie for decades, the same lie we need more and more cheap for forign labor to meet the demands of business. This is an absolutely tried and tested, giant lie that has resulted in a foreign born population in our country of north of fifteen percent, which is historic. 00:12:16 Speaker 2: On many fronts. 00:12:17 Speaker 4: America has absorbed the largest movement of human beings that any country in the history of the world has absorbed since the nineteen sixties, right when we had the Heart Seller. 00:12:27 Speaker 2: Act nineteen sixty five. 00:12:29 Speaker 4: We have absorbed that much and done better with it than any other country on the planet because of our greatness. But you can only do this for so long. The truth is there will never be enough cheap foreign labor to satisfy the business community. They will always want more. It is an insatiable appetite. It is an addiction that we must break. And I want to take your attention to the nineteen fifties. I know that conservatives get a lot of gruffer pointing to the nineteen fifties, but it was a time of extreme and robust growth. It was post war, and we had some structural advantages, but the GDP grew at an average of four point two percent. We would kill for those numbers. Now it reached seven to eight percent on four different occasions during the nineteen fifties, and during those years we only allowed two hundred and fifty thousand people to come into the country two hundred and fifty per year, two hundred fifty thousand per year. 00:13:21 Speaker 2: Now we allow one point two million a year. 00:13:24 Speaker 4: Like I said, the foreign born population is now north of fifteen percent. But during the nineteen fifties, Blake, did you know that the foreign born population went from in nineteen fifty six point nine percent of the population to five point four percent by nineteen sixty. Invasion levels of immigration for cheap labor is not the key to growth, and the nineteen fifties prove it, but it is the key to ruining everything else in your country and culture. That is my take, Blake, What is yours? 00:13:51 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just, first of all, it's so frustrating because it's like these guys persistently decide to just not get the point. They don't get why Donald Trump was able to win the nomination twenty sixteen, why he won that election, why he was able to come back and win in twenty four They don't get what issues fire up the base. They don't get what. They seem incredibly pigheaded in refusing to see what the long term consequences of this are. Okay, you say business owners want lower wages, and then these same people will turn around and scream save us. When you have l said running in Michigan, when you have this these DSA candidates taking over New York City, taking over Wisconsin, taking over California. All of this is very directly related to us having lots and lots of immigration from countries where socialism is the norm, where third world economics is the norm, and voting for it is the norm. And so the long term effects of this are you dilute America's ability to be competitive. The long term effective this is you dilute what made America so special, what made America a desirable place for people to come to in the first place. And then they just deliver these lectures, Oh, we have a shortage of workers, and it's not even really true. And on top of that, use your brain. What's everyone freaking out about right now? Everyone's freaking out about artificial intelligence? What could that mean? Well, it might mean a lot of white collar jobs get automated away. Young talk to a young computer science grat the job market for them is very difficult. Right now, how about manual labor jobs? Go look at a video from China where they're making humanoid robots. So what these guys are proposing to do is bringing in people from foreign countries who will have the right that any kids they have will have birthright citizenship thanks to our glorious Supreme Court. Those birthright citizens can then sponsor their entire extended family to get permanent residency here and then ultimately citizenship as well. They want to import all of those people when their jobs might be getting automated away. This is the excuse we heard in the first Trump term. Who's going to drive the ubers if we don't import a million immigrants? Well, now we're on the brink of self driving cars, and are all of those Uber drivers going to go back to their home countries? No, a bunch of them are citizens at this point, and I'm even reading Deseret News. Is thing buried in Curtis's bill, Even though he says it brings accountability and has safeguards, it has a pathway to legal residency for visa holders who are illegal immigrants physically present in the US. Since December thirty first, twenty sixteen. They would need to undergo a background check and pay a penalty of wait for it, wait for it, Andrew one thousand dollars. Wow, all right, And so we're gonna get a backdoor amnesty thrown in, just like they have in Spain, just like they have everywhere else. How do you prove someone's been here since twenty sixteen? I can't imagine that will be strictly enforced. You'llly need one judge to say that. Actually, you know, you're not allowed to enforce that in anyway. This is just rank insanity that we've seen happen over and over and over again. And it's, like you said, it's so hard. You just got two Republican senators who actually vote for what the base wants, which is also good for the party's long term interest, good for America's long term interest, just good for the country. I just can't. I just can't get over how dumb this is. 00:17:15 Speaker 4: Well and Blake, we can't forget the Digny Dodd Act that was sponsored by roughly forty different politicians. The chief sponsor would be Marie Salasar from Florida. She's the author and previously introduced to you know, a different version of twenty twenty three, and it has a bunch of Democrats sponsoring it as well, and it was it's basically asylum reform, and it gives legal status to Dreamers. And then that version the Dignity Program for eligible long term undocumented individuals present before roughly late twenty twenty. So again, how are you going to prove somebody was here at twenty twenty or before? They these are experts at making up fake papers, folks, And there I can guarantee you there are a lot of lawyers and NGOs standing by to help them make their case. So once again we have conservatives, so called conservatives, betraying the base, going against everything that put Donald Trump in office. And it is so shameful that it deserves an entire eight minutes calling it out for what it is, a betrayal of base voters of what we voted for, and we are sick of it. So, Senator Curtis, I do not like your future political prospects. 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That's Charlie for Hillsdale dot Com. We're going to turn our attention to northwest Wisconsin, one of the most important races and primaries out there, and this is a turning point. Action endorsed Michael Alfonso. He's just twenty six years old. He had a daughter six weeks ago, and he's running to backfill Tom Tiffany's seat, who's running for governor in that state. Pretty cool to have a Freedom Caucus aligned young twenty six year old getting into the fray. So, without further ado, let's welcome Michael Alfonso to the show. 00:20:07 Speaker 2: Good to have you, Michael, and good to see you. 00:20:10 Speaker 7: Thanks for having me. 00:20:10 Speaker 4: Andrew, So, tell us about your race, the dynamics of it, what you're up against with this primary. 00:20:16 Speaker 2: It's a primary is just about a week away. 00:20:18 Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken, Who are you up against and what differentiates the two of you? 00:20:23 Speaker 10: Yeah, so you know right now it's an open seat race for a pretty relatively safe Republican seat. So there's about eight separate people in this primary. But you know, I think what really separates me is and we're seeing this in Wisconsin, this rise of socialism. And frankly, I don't even like calling it socialism because it's communism. That's what socialism becomes. My grandparents came to this country from Cuba. I know all about this socialism lie. But the leading candidate for governor here in Wisconsin is a socialist, a communist. 00:20:59 Speaker 3: And I think when. 00:21:00 Speaker 10: We look at the polland just where is this movement coming from. 00:21:04 Speaker 7: It's coming from young people. That's why I think it's so. 00:21:06 Speaker 10: Important to have young voices on the right who are working on winning that next generation. 00:21:11 Speaker 7: And that's what I think I do best. 00:21:14 Speaker 4: I think that's really well said. And you brought it up this Francesca hank character. This was a clip that I saw last night for the first time. And you know, you're a son of Cuban immigrants, so this probably is gonna be a perfect clip for you to respond to Sadi. 00:21:30 Speaker 11: What needs to be in curriculum for school boards, you know, going back to making sure that talking about racial identity and the role of race is ubiquitous in classrooms. 00:21:40 Speaker 4: She wants to put racial politics, racial grievances and talking about race. She wants to make that ubiquitous in classrooms. What good does this do for young Americans, Alfonso, A whole lot of nothing. 00:21:55 Speaker 10: You know, it wasn't long that I was on these college campuses. I saw and trying to indoctrinate every single student that comes their way. But now they're trying to get it into the middle schools, the high schools, the grade schools. What they're doing is they're going after our kids. And that's what makes this movement so so dangerous. 00:22:13 Speaker 3: You know, I just had a daughter. 00:22:15 Speaker 10: We're talking very seriously about homeschooling because we can't trust the schools. We're paying every single year into a program that all it does is create new little leftists who hate the country. 00:22:28 Speaker 2: I totally agree. Blake your reaction. 00:22:31 Speaker 5: Uh, I'm just I just keep thinking how how nice it is that we have another another young guy running for Congress. I don't I don't imagine you were seeing our last segment, but we were just blowing up at Utah's Republican senator because he's pushing out this bill for amnesty for so many, you know, millions of illegal workers and bringing in new ones, and we just have this conversation. We get so many emails that say, what can we do about Congress? Why are things so bad? And what we always tell them is progress is coming, one retirement at a time, one new election at a time. And I feel optimistic because I don't know that I've ever seen a Republican candidate who's under the age of forty, like yourself, who's bad on the issues. They might have other you know, they might be an experience. They might not be the perfect candidate, but they actually get it on issues. And even if they're child of immigrants, even if they're from unconventional backgrounds, you guys just get it in a way of our all of our older generation of guys, the guys who weren't around, who were around before Donald Trump, they just don't get it. And so I'm just very grateful to have guys like you. 00:23:37 Speaker 10: Well, thank you, And you know, I'm really glad you bring up the amnesty deal because this is a battle we see happening between the right. Are we going to give people this path to citizenship while they're here? 00:23:47 Speaker 7: What are we gonna do? 00:23:48 Speaker 3: Well? 00:23:49 Speaker 10: I actually put myself through college debt free by working construction, and I will never forget I was the foreman of a crew and the guys who are working underneath me brought more home more money than I did because they were being paid under the table. I was paying taxes. You know, we talk about a labor shortage. When kids go into a workforce like that, I can see why they're a little disillusion. 00:24:14 Speaker 2: That's a great point. That's such a great point. 00:24:16 Speaker 4: And by the way, it bears repeating that big business will never be satisfied with enough foreign labor. They'll always want more. They'll always say they need more. We've experienced this since the nineteen sixties. When are we going to wake up and realize that they're addicted to cheap labor. This is the same argument that slave owners used in the South. 00:24:35 Speaker 2: Okay, it's ridiculous. 00:24:37 Speaker 4: Now you have a huge event coming up tonight with Riley Gains through up one sixty six if you can, guys, So this is happening tonight six pm Riverbend at River's Edge in New Richmond, Wisconsin with the great Riley Gains. 00:24:53 Speaker 2: Tell us about it. 00:24:54 Speaker 10: Yeah, So, basically, what happened in New Richmond, Wisconsin, which was a predominantly pro Trump area, their school board got taken over and they didn't even realize it. 00:25:04 Speaker 7: So for about a year there was a boy using the girl's bathroom and the parents found out about this. 00:25:10 Speaker 10: They called an emergency school board meeting and the board voted six to one to do nothing, not to protect the girls. So the President Trump, there's a lot of things that have happened, but President Trump is now investigating, probably going to sue the school district, and we're holding this rally to show that the people of Wisconsin, of New Richmond. 00:25:29 Speaker 7: Are not going to stand for this. 00:25:30 Speaker 10: We're not going to allow women's spaces to be invaded by men. We're not going to believe this ridiculous notion of a woman. We believe in women as God created them. And I also want to shout out the young girl who really made this whole thing public. Her name's Ella Fry. She's a sixteen year old girl going to New Richmond High School. The amount of hate she's received for just saying I don't want to share a bathroom with a boy has been ridiculous. She's going to be there speaking tonight, and you know, well, I hope that everyone who's sixteen years. 00:26:03 Speaker 7: Old is amazing as Ela Fry. Our country will be good to go if it is. 00:26:08 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's amazing that you're highlighting her story. The fact that we're still dealing with this is obscene. We see all these stories out of the WNBA. Blake loves covering those stories. We do it at least weekly now. But I'm so glad that you've got Riley Gaines up there, who's been loud and out front in this issue. She's fearless, she's courageous, and you're bringing that much needed attention. You have this weird little nook in the country, Alfonso, where you're northwest Wisconsin. You butt up against Minnesota where so much of these crazy ideas are coming out of which I find shocking because Minnesota, most of the state feels very all American, you know, but yet this Minneapolis Saint Paul area get the craziest ideas and they bleed into your area. Are you seeing that happen or am I mistaken in some way? 00:27:01 Speaker 7: It's just really a couple bad eggs. 00:27:03 Speaker 3: You know. 00:27:04 Speaker 10: Most of the people from Minnesota who come to Wisconsin are coming here for a reason. 00:27:08 Speaker 7: They don't want that madness. 00:27:10 Speaker 10: And one of the big things Republicans across the western part of Wisconsin are campaigning on is don't Minnesota my Wisconsin. 00:27:18 Speaker 7: You guys already mess that area stay over there. 00:27:21 Speaker 10: But if you want to bring your pro pro women votes over here, you're pro bringing back the American economy votes over to Wisconsin. 00:27:29 Speaker 7: We need them because we have a very serious race. 00:27:33 Speaker 5: Yeah. I just think it's I'm almost shocked. Wisconsin. It feels like it should be a rhet or state because you do have Minnesota as kind of the it's the top avatar of liberalism certainly, that really radical liberalism in the United States, and we've seen that where the results are that they positively wrecked Minneapolis. They let the city get torched, they let it get looted, they let murders roam free. And then I mean the insane Somali scams, all sorts of welfare fraud. You have Tim Walls going around doing as Tim Walls things and looking like a cartoon character. And now you have this French uscup Hong individual. She's running to become the governor of the state. Can you tell us a little bit, how is that affecting all the races across the strait across the state, that she's becoming essentially the statewide leader of the opposing party. 00:28:30 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:28:31 Speaker 10: You know, I like to say that the Democrats, traditional Democrats have been so disappointing that even the Democrats are looking for something else, you know, I mean, Joe Biden left us with the worst inflation crisis we've had in forty years. So you know, now these leftists are saying, well, we need to push even further to the left. 00:28:50 Speaker 7: But when you look at Wisconsin. 00:28:51 Speaker 10: What you're talking about with saying, you know, these are great people. They're assaulted the earth people, They're not going to vote for socialism. We have some of the most public universities in the entire country. 00:29:03 Speaker 7: We have UW. Madison, u W. Stevens Point, UW. 00:29:06 Speaker 3: Stout. 00:29:07 Speaker 10: The list goes on and on, and that's why it's so important to win young people. 00:29:12 Speaker 7: They're making a difference with their vote in the wrong way. 00:29:15 Speaker 10: And you know, I have to bring this up because Charlie Kirk was actually a big reason why I decided to run for this seat. 00:29:23 Speaker 7: You know, I met him at the RNC. 00:29:25 Speaker 10: I actually produced his podcast in Milwaukee at the Rumbles Studio. And you know, Charlie never gave up on my generation. I credit him with winning Trump the election in twenty twenty four because young men actually swung for Trump. And if we don't start targeting the young people, we might win one election or two elections, but we will lose the country in twenty years. 00:29:48 Speaker 7: And as a new father, I really care. 00:29:50 Speaker 10: About what happens to the country in twenty forty fifty years. 00:29:55 Speaker 4: All right, So Michael, we've got this Zorrah Mom, Donnie character in New York City. 00:30:00 Speaker 2: I heard of him, and one. 00:30:02 Speaker 4: Of his big deals was he is he's coming out with a grocery store in each of the five boroughs of New York City, and he says that prices are going to be thirty percent cheaper and that apparently you need an ID now to check out to take advantage of these cheaper prices, which is hilarious because Democrats hate IDs. But it's a larger, I think story that I want to talk to you about because young people I'll never forget. When we were doing our CLS roundtable at the Chapter Leadership summit in DC just a few weeks ago, one of the students said, hey, listen, you know, for me, it's as simple as like I shouldn't have to pay twenty dollars for a burrito. 00:30:39 Speaker 2: And I said that on social media and a bunch of people. 00:30:41 Speaker 4: Like I can get burritos for fifteen bucks with rice and be well, okay, sure, but a lot of burritos cost twenty bucks. There is a felt need out there with young people that things just feel too expensive. What do you say to people when you meet them on the campaign trail and they're complaining about affordability, and what would you do about it? 00:30:59 Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I tell them, don't listen to the lies of free stuff. You know, the socialists have the easy pitch. They go to these kids who can't afford healthcare, they don't have a good job, they can't afford a home, and they say, how would you like a free home? How would you like free healthcare? Well, we know you and I know that that doesn't work. That makes everybody equitable in their levels of suffering. 00:31:21 Speaker 7: That's the only thing it does. 00:31:22 Speaker 10: Republicans actually have a plan. We're gonna cut government spending. And I know every politician comes on and says, we're gonna cut government spending. 00:31:31 Speaker 7: Well, all we have to do is get rid of the fraud, waste, and abuse. 00:31:35 Speaker 10: I mean, it took a twenty four year old named Nick Shirley with an iPhone camera to uncover twelve billion billion dollars of fraud in Minneapolis alone. How much is happening in Chicago, which we know is way more corrupt than Minneapolis. It's very simple. We need to prioritize the next generation. Forty trillion dollars in debt is not going to work. There's no wonder we have crazy inflation when we're spending hand over fist. 00:32:03 Speaker 7: Thanks Joe Biden for that one. 00:32:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's really well said. There's three drivers as I see it, to inflation, and Blake, I'll get your response after this one. 00:32:14 Speaker 2: We print money like a bunch of drunk sailors. What does that do? 00:32:17 Speaker 4: You have more dollars in the system chasing fewer goods, and that is what drives inflation. 00:32:22 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:32:22 Speaker 4: We saw this in a huge way during COVID where we saw the largest wealth transfer to the elites and the top earners because they own assets, they own equities, they own stocks that inflate in value when inflation happens. Guess who gets hurt? Working class young people that are trying to enter the workforce. That's who it hurts the most. Number two is going to be mass immigration. It's a supply and demand issue. We're seeing this in places in Texas where where the studies have come out where you don't have as many H one b's, you don't have as many immigrants. And guess what, Home prices are dropping. Rent prices are dropping supplying demand. Third, bad regulation. Okay, those are the three drivers of prices. Okay, Now, what happened during the Biden years is that we had a lot of inflation, and that hangover is still felt and people aren't getting the relief immediately. And I understand that that's painful, but blake and maybe this is your your time to chime in here, the sirens song of free stuff, populism of free stuff is going to fix everything. Why is that so disastrous in the long run. 00:33:20 Speaker 5: Well, I'll just put it this way. I think a lot. I think we actually get distracted when we let them say the problem is twenty dollars burritos or groceries are too expensive. The big drivers of why your life feels like you cannot afford it is how it's the stuff. Your housing is bad, healthcare is bad. Education has gotten incredibly bad in terms of its price inflation over time. Childcare is really bad. And what sets all of those things apart is those are places where our glorious government has said, oh, these goods are expensive and important to people, let's heavily regulate and shape these markets and make all of these guarantees. And all that they've done is in ever increasing prices. It's like what we saw with student loans, where when the government said, we'll pay any amount for a student loan and just grant it, no questions asked. And so the schools just like clockwork, we're upping their tuition five, six, seven, eight percent per year because they could get away with it. And as soon as the Trump administration came in and said we're not going to up this mindlessly every year, you started seeing schools say, actually, this year, we're gonna experiment with a tuition freeze, or it's only gonna go up one percent. Suddenly different behaviors were coming out. And if we let them impose this on, for example, groceries, what you will find is you might get some immediate short term relief. You know, it feels good to be given a free thing tomorrow. But the long run is is you're gonna have less of those goods available. The long term increase in prices is gonna be high. You're gonna have fewer grocery stores around because spoilers. That is what happened every time this is done. It's what happened in the Soviet Union, It's what happens in Latin America. It's what happens every time time they try price controls. We have to not let this insidious ideology get in. It will impoverish us the way it's impoverished so many countries around the world. 00:35:09 Speaker 4: Michael, final word to you, and please tell people where they can go to support you and what the action steps are to get involved in your campaign. And your primary comes up on Tuesday. 00:35:18 Speaker 10: Yeah, so early voting is actually open right now, so you can vote pretty much all the way through up until August eleventh, that's the final day. And you know, you can go to Alfonso for Wisconsin dot com to check out about the campaign, see the issues page and volunteer, donate anything really helps. But you know, truly the most important thing is prayers, because we know how dangerous and frankly difficult the political world can be, so prayers mean the most. 00:35:46 Speaker 4: Amen, And I just want to echo what Blake said earlier. We're so grateful for young voices like yourself that are proud conservatives, that are proudly American, that are willing to step into the breach and be a counterweight to the Hassam pikers and the crazy murderer's row of DSA that is rising all across the country. You are more important than you realize. 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And then anybody who disagrees with us, well, but clearly they've been bought off by somebody, by the establishment, by real whoever it is. They've been bought off. They can't be trusted. And so what am I watching. I'm watching the left engage in an action of identity politics, grievance politics, a press or and a press dynamics. And now I'm watching a section of the right engaging the exact same thing. I understand the argument of saying, well, when you have legitimate power, you better use it to. 00:38:20 Speaker 13: Protect your institutions. I agree with that. Does that mean we give it up, we throw it out? Well, yeah, Nick, because look it's not working right now. Does that mean it never worked? 00:38:33 Speaker 2: We have? 00:38:33 Speaker 4: Nick freedis the star of that great clip joining us now. He's a former Green Beret and you can find him an exit. Nick freedis and he's the author of a book that I just love the cover of The Man Book, So throw that up. I know that was a few months ago, but it's worth throwing up again because he's a point by point guide to sucking it up and getting the job done. 00:38:55 Speaker 2: I just love that title. 00:38:56 Speaker 4: He tells you how to kick down doors and so many other cool things that guys need to know. 00:39:00 Speaker 2: Nick, welcome back to the show. 00:39:01 Speaker 4: It's great to see you, my friend, and I wish we were under better circumstances. But you are reacting in that clip to what we could only call a mass demoralization campaign that we're seeing play out and social media and podcasts. 00:39:16 Speaker 2: From the right. 00:39:17 Speaker 4: So tell us what you're seeing and why you decided to make that clip and start speaking out. 00:39:22 Speaker 3: Well, I think the thing that really frustrated me. 00:39:24 Speaker 12: Is this whole idea that all is lost, that our elections mean nothing because that they're all rigged, that nothing has happened. The Trump administration is done absolutely nothing. I hear this all the time from members of the right because they're frustrated that it hasn't done enough. And so when I'm seeing over and over again, is this again. I don't want to call it an attempt. I don't know if it's just they're genuinely demoralized or they're actively trying to demoralize people, But it's this idea. 00:39:51 Speaker 3: That there's nothing we can do about our situation except a guest. 00:39:55 Speaker 12: Complain and like follow and subscribe the various influencers that are pushing this particular narrative. 00:40:01 Speaker 3: And there's a very very big. 00:40:03 Speaker 12: Difference between someone that says I am frustrated because I voted for one thing and I don't feel like I'm getting it. There's a very big difference between that versus somebody that says nothing has happened. There's no difference between the parties. It's all one big unit party, and I'm looking at that like that is verifiable garbage. It's absolute nonsense. It is totally accurate to say I don't think enough has been done. It is totally accurate to say that we have some people that claim to be Republicans and then governed very differently when we actually elect them. But to suggest that they're all the same look as someone that just had to leave Virginia because I love Virginia, but it's someone that had to leave it because it decided to lose its mind. 00:40:43 Speaker 3: During the last election cycle. 00:40:44 Speaker 12: I can tell you right now, as frustrated as you might be with certain people on the right, and rightfully so, if you honestly believe that there's no difference, oh well, I encourage you to look at a state that was once governed by people that actually believed in things like individual liberty, private property rights, Second Amendment rights, pro. 00:41:04 Speaker 3: Life versus now when it's. 00:41:06 Speaker 12: Actually run by people that want abortion all the way up to the point of birth, and want pornography within your public school library and believe that your gun should be confiscated. 00:41:14 Speaker 3: From you or severely restricted. 00:41:15 Speaker 12: Because there is a significant difference between living in one of those two places. 00:41:21 Speaker 5: No, I love that, just I get frustrated as well. There's so many cases where I often use. The term I use for it is like emotional incontinence. I think what drives a lot of it is I've mentioned this, it's a little addictive to be really emotionally built up, really angry, really sad. That's why people like watching horror movies or really sad movies, because they get a rush out of those emotions. And I think we're seeing that play out on social media over and over again that it's really satisfying to say they've completely ruined it. Twenty twenty four was for nothing. It's all a waste, and it's a lot more or when you have nuance, it's a lot less satisfying to come out and say there's ways the administration has fallen short. There's other ways the administration is doing great. Here's what they can do to make things go better, here's what they can do to turn the polls around. And we really have a moral responsibility. I think Charlie was very aware of this, but that's what was going on. When you would say no black pilling. It doesn't mean never complain, never criticize. It's that anytime you're complaining and criticizing, it needs to be aiming to help somebody, give them an action item, direct someone in the right direction. Here's how we fix it. Here's how lawmakers can fix it. And I think it's a discussion that needs to be had because I think there's a lot of runaway dooming, a lot of runaway complaining on the right, and it could cause the left to take over the country again. 00:42:47 Speaker 4: Well, and I just want to say too that it's very difficult to build something. It's very difficult to build something, very difficult to build a coalition that won in twenty twenty four. It is very easy to be a doomer. It's very easy to be a black pillar. It's very easy to tear down and destroy. And I and I, Nick, I heard you trying to chime in here, but I just want to say that that it is so easy, and it's morally lazy, it's morally repugnant actually to be a doomer. 00:43:14 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Nick, well. 00:43:16 Speaker 12: No, it's I was basically going to say something very similar, and it's a I remember watching people when I when I was in the legislature in Virginia, and I was one vote out of a hundred in the Virginia General Assembly and one vote in the one hundred Virginia House of Delegates, and I would I would carry a bill, and I would a lobby for the bill, and I would argue for the bill and subcommittee and I would go out on social media and tell everyone what exactly was happening with the bill. And then the bill would it passed, and I'd be told I'm sick of excuses, Nick, I'm like, dude, I'm one vote out of a hundred in the Virginia House of Delegates and the Democrats control the building right now? 00:43:48 Speaker 3: What more would you like me to do? 00:43:51 Speaker 12: And And it was it was amazing because a lot of the times those criticisms, those criticism would come from one of two people. It was either people that were just fed up. But then once you explained what you were doing, why you were trying to do it, and how they could help, they got to work. 00:44:05 Speaker 3: I love those people. 00:44:06 Speaker 12: I love those people because they're not obsessed with politics, but they expect something substantive to get done, and if you can actually direct them on how they can help in a practical and meaningful way, they do it. 00:44:18 Speaker 3: They do it. Then there's another group, and this is the group that gets this. 00:44:21 Speaker 12: Intense moral satisfaction out of risking nothing, putting in zero work other than complaining about everybody else in the moment. 00:44:32 Speaker 3: They never want to run for office themselves. They never want to put in. 00:44:35 Speaker 12: Any actual work because who cares, and well, they would never get elected because they're too honest. 00:44:40 Speaker 3: I look at those people, I say, gosh, you know, I sure wish you were in charge. 00:44:44 Speaker 12: You apparently have all of the answers, and if only we could get you into a position of real authority, you'd achieve everything. But they don't want that position because deep down they know they wouldn't be able to accomplish anything, and they don't want to be held accountable. This is Teddy Roosevelt's the critic versus the man in the arena, and so I've always been very big. It's one of the things again I've always appreciated about Charlie. It was like, if you're upset about something, I have a way that you can actually be more effective. And the people that actually take up that call and do it, those are the ones that I respect. Those are the ones whose critiques, whose arguments, whose frustrations I have no problem listening to, because I know they're going to put in the work to actually do something about it. 00:45:24 Speaker 3: But then you've got this whole other group where they honestly believe it. 00:45:27 Speaker 12: Well, I showed up and voted. Oh well, I guess that's the totality of your civic duty. I guess nothing else is required to protect our civilization, our way of life, our. 00:45:36 Speaker 3: System except for you to show up and vote. Right, that's it. The people that voted to separate from England in the first. 00:45:43 Speaker 12: Place, that was all they should have had to do, right, Like, Hey, King George, we're out. And no other requirements right, no other duties or obligations on your point on your part, you just hey, you're just there for moral support. I'm sorry, I got nothing for that. And the more they talk and the more they gather influence online, the conclusion I come to is this serves no one except the left, because the Mamdanni wing of the Democratic Party is taking over right now. If they can't get your vote, they will settle for your apathy all the way up until the point where they have enough power and then it doesn't matter anymore. 00:46:18 Speaker 3: So again, I will listen to the teach from anybody in the trenches. 00:46:21 Speaker 4: Wow, what you just said, Nick, is powerful. If they can't get your vote, they will settle for your apathy. Man, that is so good, all right. So this whole thing Nick made me remember Juri Besmanov, who was a KGB defector from Soviet the Soviet Union, and he warned against these demoralization campaigns. And it feels like we're living through this mass psychosis where everybody's just like dooming and that hits the clicks, and if you're not super cynical, nobody believes you because you got to be a paid op or a shill or something like that. Nobody ever seems to give any credence to the idea that we just love our country and I have kids, and you have kids. 00:47:00 Speaker 2: Blake's gonna have a. 00:47:00 Speaker 4: Lot of kids, and we just want a country to pass down to the next generation that looks better than the one we got. Okay, nobody thinks about that. Okay, but let's hear him in his own words, and I'll have you react. On the other side, it's not twenty four. 00:47:12 Speaker 14: They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind, even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still cannot change the basic perception and the logic of behavior. In other words, these people, the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To get rid society of these people, you need in other twenty or fifteen years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of the of the United States society. 00:48:03 Speaker 4: There's so much in that clip, Nick, because I think about the work Charlie was doing raising up that generation of patriotic Americans, and how much work was done in that direction, and it feels like we've taken a couple step steps back. But what he says about the fact that you could tell them black as black and white as white, they still won't. They still won't acknowledge the truth. So when we talk about, hey, we've gotten rid of one point four million people illegals out of this country, which is a fact that I tweeted about over the weekend, a lot of people came in the comments and said, so what, that's nothing, Well, guess what the alternative is three to five million illegals every year under the Democrats. So don't tell me it's nothing, but the floor is yours neck. Your reaction to this demoralization campaign, well, Ury. 00:48:47 Speaker 12: Besmanov was talking about something called Active Measures that was put out by the Soviet Union. It was again a very active, well funded attempt in order to influence through our university system, through our culturally shaping institutions. And one of the things they tell talked about was the ability of these things that basically outlive themselves. So essentially the Soviet Union is no more. Does that mean that the programs that they implemented are no longer successful? Now, I would argue that they've been wildly successful with a number of generations of Americans that have been taught to believe that, you know, the United States or the West in general, is evil, it's bad, it's fundamentally flawed, and it has to be overthrown. And that's where you get everything from wokeism to third worldism, to decolonization. 00:49:27 Speaker 3: To you know, all the little hot words. 00:49:28 Speaker 12: They're used by people that all have essentially the same moral and philosophical foundation. But what you see going on the right is different. Right now, the right is looking at this. I was actually speaking at the ARC conference in London, and I said, one of the things that we have to do on the right is be careful about something, and that is if all we're telling young men is you have to fight hard to protect Western civilization so GDP numbers go up, that's not sufficient, right, it's right now you are looking at young men in the West who have been told for repeatedly for the last two to three decades, that they're the source of all the world's ills. 00:50:04 Speaker 3: That they're the problem, that they're evil, they're fascist. 00:50:07 Speaker 12: They're racist, they're sexist, they're bigoted, whatever, and they're looking at their own conduct and saying, I don't buy this. I wasn't these things. But you're telling me to defend Western civilization. 00:50:16 Speaker 3: What do you mean by that? 00:50:17 Speaker 12: Should I defend the thing that has been doing this to me for the past three decades or should I defend the thing that was powerless to stop it? And that's a good point, But if you in the conversation there, then all you're going to get is demoralization. And there's some people that have built a huge audience by telling young men especially it's not worth it, it all sucks, it all needs to be burned down, and you. 00:50:40 Speaker 3: Have to ask the question, what are they after? 00:50:43 Speaker 12: How do they possib believe that this is going to yield better results further along down the line. And what I want to do is I want to remind young men that know, the thing that we're asking them to defend is not just Western civilization. I'm asking people to defend Christendom. And that's not because Ridom has always had the best fighters. It's not because our way of life in the United States has always been represented by the best people. That's never the case. That is the nede, that is human nature. The real question they have to ask yourself is is what you believe true? And I believe the Christianity is true. I believe that this country, that our way of life was fundamentally built upon Christian ethics and theology. I believe that we then used centuries of wisdom with respect to trying to avoid the concentration of power in the hands of a few, and that our founders set up an incredible system of government that has in many respects stood the test of time beautifully. And I am not I am not about to look at our system. I'm not about to look at our faith. I'm not about to look at the incredible history that the United States has and throw it all out because currently it has some really bad stewards, or that it has had some really bad stewards in. 00:52:00 Speaker 3: The immediate past. 00:52:02 Speaker 12: I want to find the people that want to once again reference not just not just the Constitution, but the ideas that informed it and said I'm willing to fight for those. 00:52:13 Speaker 3: I'm willing to fight for those. 00:52:14 Speaker 12: I want to give up everything for those, just like the people that went before me. And that's where I want young men. That's what I want young people in the United States to understand, is that nothing is easier than to throw in the talent say it all sucks. But unless you're really willing to accept that we're in the worst and most dires period of all of American history, and so therefore your effort is no longer necessary or warranted. 00:52:38 Speaker 3: If you're really willing to say that, well, then what do you say. 00:52:42 Speaker 12: What do you say to the people that actually went across the Delaware with George Washington on the verge of the Continental Army collapsing. 00:52:49 Speaker 3: What do you say to. 00:52:51 Speaker 12: The nineteen year olds that storm beaches at Normandy, what do you say to every other American that had to face incredible to existential crisises with an American history and rose up and conquered it and created something better. You're just not worthy of that legacy. I don't believe that's true. But I also believe that one of the keys here is that and this is something that This is the reason why Charlie's legacy endures because there's been a lot of people that were able to talk about politics effectively. The reason why Charlie's legacy endures is because he didn't just point to an election cycle. 00:53:25 Speaker 3: He pointed to God, and he pointed to family. You can give men God and family. They'll fight for the civilization in. 00:53:31 Speaker 2: Order to protect the beautifully said Nick, thank you so much. We'll talk to you soon. 00:53:39 Speaker 4: I had the honor of a lifetime to call Charlie a friend. And what I remember most wasn't just what people saw on stage. It was what was behind the scenes. That was an unwavering commitment to his faith, his love for his family, and his genuine desire to encourage others to live with courage and conviction. Charlie believed that following Christ wasn't something you compartmentalize. He didn't put it in a box. He lived it out loud. It shaped how he lived, how he served, how he treated people every single day. Charlie Kirk, American Martyr captures that heart. This documentary isn't just simply about remembering Charlie. It's an invitation for each of us to ask what kind of legacy we're building and whether we're willing to stand firm in our own faith when it's tested. I hope that you'll watch it with your family and have those conversations together. Go to angel dot com slash kirk. That's angel dot com slash kirk. Become an Angel Guild member, watch Charlie Kirk American Martyr, and help bring more stories of faith, courage, and conviction to audiences around the world. 00:54:45 Speaker 2: All right, without. 00:54:46 Speaker 4: Further ado, we have the great Helen Andrews, who's the author of Boomers, The Men and Women who promised freedom and delivered disaster. We had her on for one of my favorite articles of all time about the wokeism is just feminism that is institutionalized with our businesses. Great conversation, and now she's got a new one from Compact magazine, The Racial Crossroads, Helen Andrews. Blake was the one who showed me this article. 00:55:13 Speaker 2: Helen. 00:55:14 Speaker 4: It is amazing and it's so important, So welcome back to the show. I can't wait to have this discussion with you, Blake. 00:55:19 Speaker 2: Do you want to take it away? 00:55:21 Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean, let's just dive right into it. You describe America as the title says, we're at a racial crossroads. A great decision has to be made, Helen. Why don't you just tell our listeners what is the decision America has to make? In your view? 00:55:37 Speaker 15: A lot of people are walking around feeling like the insanity we all live through in twenty twenty is thankfully behind us and we don't have to worry about wokeness anymore. I am here to tell you, unfortunately, that that's not true, because the factors that led to the episode of racial hysteria that we live through in twenty twenty aren't It wasn't just a random episode that was caused by George Floyd. These are deep problems related to decades long demographic trends. To put it in a single sentence, the racial regime that we crafted in the nineteen sixties for an America that was ninety percent white and ten percent black roughly is no longer going to function effectively in the America that's coming down the pike, and that Generation Z is already living in when it's less than fifty percent white, and the people who are able to claim special treatment under our system of racial laws are actually a demographic majority. That is just a recipe for race intruding into every interaction, every institution, every political issue. And that's an extremely toxic outcome that we are now at a decision point, and we're kind of almost at the last moment when we can avert that bad outcome. 00:56:56 Speaker 5: I think this is what's so important about it. You describe how, first of all, the you actually you say the Trump administration has done good stuff. They've actually been trying to apply civil rights laws fairly and say it says you can't discriminate based on race. You guys have been discriminating against white people. That's not allowed. But you make the case that this is inherently doomed as long as we're locked in seeing race with every single thing that we do. And I love the idiom you used to describe this. You describe what it was like living in Soviet Russia and what it meant to live in a Marxist system. Can you build out that comparison, the Marxist system that the Soviet Union had versus our race system that we live under. 00:57:41 Speaker 15: If you've been on the internet, you may have seen people refer to the modern left SI ideology as race communism. I liked that phrase when I first came across it, because I thought it was funny. But the more I thought about it, the more I realized it's not actually a joke. In the Soviet Union of the sixties and seventies, it wasn't the Starfist era anymore. No one was getting thrown into gulags, but it was still an oppressive place to live because the government had a clear, specific ideology, and it put that ideology into everything. Every institution had a commissar whose whole job it was to enforce the party line on his workplace, his factory, his academic institute. There was somebody whose job that was and I thought, well, we have that today. That's just the HR person. The HR person enforces our particular rules of political correctness any place you work. If you work at an institution, that employs more than ten people, you've probably got an ideological enforcer on your staff. So this idea that our government has an ideology in it, it's not enough for people to sort of accept the government that they live under it as legitimate. They have to accept the ideology the government has is evangelical about its ideological line. That's a recipe for it's going to feel oppressive. It is contrary to the basic principles that America used to be founded on, which is freedom of thought and freedom of philosophy. It's not a recipe for solid, independent, republican citizenship. If your government has an ideology that it feels it necessary to enforce on you. 00:59:21 Speaker 2: I think it's a really good point. 00:59:22 Speaker 4: Charlie would call hr departments and the DEI directors the commissars of wokeness enforcing the party line. 00:59:29 Speaker 2: And we have made progress, we've been pushing back. But as we always say, woke is not dead. 00:59:33 Speaker 4: I know woke was one of the terms that you bandied about in this piece kind of wondering. Should that be the word, the word or the phrase that we use to describe this turning point that we're at. 00:59:43 Speaker 2: But you say this. 00:59:44 Speaker 4: Is one of the last points that we have to fix this problem. 00:59:50 Speaker 2: What do you mean by that and what would the solutions be. 00:59:54 Speaker 15: I love the work that the Trump administration is doing on this front right now. They are stacking up new wins every day on stuff like this har Meat Dlan at the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice suing these schools that have been discriminating against white and Asian college applicants med school applicants. I think that's really great. I love that they're suing businesses for their anti white DEI programs, telling them you can't racially humiliate your employees as part of a workplace seminar. That's against the law. I love what they're doing, but I don't think it's a sustainable, long term solution, because if we get into a situation where we conduct all of our politics by race based lawsuits, then the party of race, which is the Democrats, is better than us at that the law is tilted in their favor. I think that's a battle we're going to lose. So I think when we stack up these wins like the Trump administration is doing, we need to think about what's our long term strategy, what's the end goal? We really want to arrive at. And my two cents is that the only solution to this toxic based, toxic cycle of race based conflict that we're kind of just seeing the start of in America, the only way to avert that is to go back to freedom of association and just enough with the race based lawsuits period. That's just not the way we should conduct our politics. But right now we're returning to freedom of association is kind of a political non starter. So the only way to get liberal institutions to sort of entertain even that possibility would be to inflict enough pain on them now through the kinds of lawsuits that the Trump administration is targeting at places like Harvard. If Harvard feels like it's inundated with lawsuits and the only way to stop it is to go back to freedom of association and just take race based lawsuits off the table completely. I want to get Harvard to a point where Harvard would agree to that, and I think the way to get Harvard to that point is to use these law suits based on equality under the law to inflict enough pain on them. 01:02:03 Speaker 3: Now. 01:02:04 Speaker 5: I think that's so well said. I want to explore another part where you lay out why this is so important, And you talk about the accelerating decay, and we saw this in the Soviet Union as well, that it was I mean, it was a country that could fight and win World War Two in the forties. It put a man in the first man in space in the fifties, but by the eighties it can't do anything, and it entirely falls apart. And I love how you highlight actually the Kamala Harris campaign in twenty twenty four as this excellent example of where we're going that when we started with DEI and affirmative action, as you said, ninety percent white country, we have a ten percent black underclass that hasn't done as well. Let's give them a bit of a leg up. But when half the population or more is eligible for this, higher and higher rungs of society are subject to this. And so the Democrats run a unqualified DEI presidential candidate, not just someone who's checking boxes, but someone who's not case ple of fulfilling this job. And you mentioned Harvard as well. Harvard had a DEI president. They should have the smartest, best college president in the world, and instead they had this plagiarist Charlatan talk about other sources of collapse we're going to see in our society. If we don't get this race obsession out of our politics, what else is going to break? What's going to fall apart? 01:03:24 Speaker 15: Well, the reason why the Kamala Harris incident was so striking for so many people is that the fundamental promise of the affirmative action regime is that it might sometimes be unfair. You might sometimes give a job to somebody who wasn't quite as qualified as the most qualified white candidate, but that's okay in the interests of justice, and at the end of the day, if it's something really important, you'll end up with somebody's who meets minimal qualifications. We're not going to elevate somebody who's unqualified. Well, Kamala Harris kind of disproved that, but it's exactly as you say, Blake. The trouble with these forces of decay is that it's really hard to notice how much of your house the termites have eaten before it just falls down completely. These incremental forces of decay can really go invisible for a really long time. Yeah, the air traffic controllers was a story that got a lot of coverage in twenty twenty three, there were a lot of close calls at airports, planes almost hitting each other, and a lot of them were due to air traffic controller error, and President Trump raised the possibility in a press conference that maybe this was the result of some really aggressive DEI measures that the Obama administration implemented through its FAA in the selection of air traffic controllers. They basically threw out the standardized test completely and started picking air traffic controllers purely based on the color of their skin and diversity mandates. Donald Trump speculated that that had led to a situation where they were less qualified. And that's the thing. It's hard to notice until you get to the crisis point. 01:05:02 Speaker 2: All right, So I have one question. 01:05:04 Speaker 4: So A, Whites as a share of the global population, helen only make up about ten percent of the world's population right now, about eight hundred and fifty million whites, maybe a billion, depending on how you count it, at a one point or eight point one billion people on planet Earth. So how come everybody is so intense It feels like, especially DSA candidates, the Democrats but across the world about demonizing white people when some of the most successful societies are white socizes, and it seems like everybody wants to move to societies that have been built by Europeans and their descendants. 01:05:39 Speaker 2: Explain this dynamic. Is it all just grievance based? 01:05:42 Speaker 15: It is. The thing that disturbed me most about the racialist area of twenty twenty was not its intensity. It was the facility with the language of white supremacy that I saw among immigrants and children of immigrants. One of the things that I mentioned in the piece is that it's striking how many members of the New DSA left the sort of mom Danni left are themselves immigrants or the children of immigrants. These are people who were born in Africa or India, or Francesca Hong whose parents were from Korea. These people have no personal connection to the episodes of American history that gave us our current racial bargain. These are not people whose parents were around during the Civil Rights movement or whose ancestors were affected by American slavery. These are people who got here the historical equivalent of the day before yesterday, and yet they are trading on hostility to me and my ancestors and my children in order to gain political power. So I really, really am deeply worried about the left buying into a simplistic moral narrative of politics and American history that boils down to essentially white people bad, non white people good. That can be a s I'm related into by any person who's not white, from anywhere else on the planet. Anybody else can just come here and join that anti white movement. That's a recipe for disaster and expropriation and all kinds of horrible outcomes that we're even starting to see right now. 01:07:18 Speaker 5: I feel a lot of dread. Actually, I want to also, I want to emphasize the point everyone go follow her ex account. I actually have a list on x that I use that is my check daily list. There are only I think five or six accounts on it, and Helen's is one of them. So she is a highly worthy individual. But I want to tie this back to your thesis last winter that we really liked about the great feminization that as our professional fields, law, politics, everything else have had more women enter them, they've taken on more feminine modes. And it feels like this is very similar that as we've become a more multi racial country, American politics and law and society has increasingly taken on this aspect of racial ethnic conflict as a core thing in everything that's going on. And I guess what I worry about is you say, in your own peace, we're approaching our last chance to diverge from this. But you also admit Democrats, the left, they're able to offer people a ton of things. They're able to say, here's your villain. We're gonna take your stuff, take their stuff and give it to you. And the right we can't compete with that if we're just rejecting racial politics. So I know you're a writer, not a senator, not the president, but do you see a strategy that you think is viable for getting us on the superior path when we have that asymmetry in politics right now? 01:08:43 Speaker 15: Step one just has to be to accept the truth and confront the truth. Right now, I still see a lot of people on the right saying, gosh, it's really frustrating. Isn't it crazy that no Republican presidential candidate has won the vote of any racial or ethnic minority in any presidential election since her recouver We've never won the black or Hispanic or Asian vote. You know, it's just it's crazy. We need to do better. We need to do more outreach. And I fully agree that outreach to those demographics is excellent. I think everybody should be a conservative, everybody should be a Republican and those people included. But the bottom line is you can't beat something with nothing. And if the Democrats are saying we're going to give you lots of privileges simply on the basis of your race, and people turn to the Republicans and say, okay, what's your counteroffer, and we say our counteroffer is nothing, then that's not an effective negotiation. So the only way to stop that toxic cycle is to do something decisive to take race based redistribution off the table entirely. And I agree that we're not there right now in terms of being able to pull political levers to make that happen. But that has to be the long term goal that we're working towards, because anything else, these long term demographs trends are just going to pull us back towards the toxic cycle once again. 01:10:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, I want to go back to your earlier point where you're talking about these DSA candidates. Obviously, in Michigan we've got Abdul lsied, who's running in his primary is probably gonna win. And we played this clip earlier, but it bears repeating. 01:10:17 Speaker 2: Play clip two. 01:10:19 Speaker 7: And on the removal of the whole people. 01:10:23 Speaker 8: Founded on the idea that we could comprise on whether or not people as a function of the color of their skin could be enslaved to bother people. Founded under the idea that all people are created equal all men, but that only met certain men. 01:10:40 Speaker 4: And so this is happening tonight. This is an Egyptian descent individual who is lecturing us about these moral failures of slavery that he has no connection to Helen. And that's a perfect embodiment of one of the key points I think you made in this interview. 01:11:03 Speaker 2: The floor is yours final minute. 01:11:05 Speaker 15: And of course it's affronting to hear somebody like Abdul said talk like that. But my concern isn't even with the effrontery he shows in talking like that. My concern is that he enjoys favors under the law. He has advantaged through various legal programs over white Americans whose families have been in this country for generations simply by virtue of being a non white person. This legal dividing of America into non white and white and apportioning privileges to the former and disadvantages to the latter. That's a system that worked okay in the America of nineteen sixty five, but our demographics have changed a lot since then, and it's simply not going to be supportable as we proceed into a future of a majority minority America. 01:11:51 Speaker 4: Helen Andrews the Racial Crossroads at compactmag dot com. 01:11:55 Speaker 2: Please check it out. She is wonderful at Helen. 01:11:58 Speaker 4: Can we just put you on a lab and multiply you by you know, a couple. 01:12:02 Speaker 2: Of million, That would be great. You are fantastic. 01:12:04 Speaker 15: I have three kids. 01:12:06 Speaker 4: Like's always very good. We gotta replace we gotta get above replacement levels. 01:12:11 Speaker 2: There. We'll see you guys tomorrow. 01:12:14 Speaker 9: Until then, for more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.