JD's Great Anti-Fraud Crusade + AMA 266

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Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of the Charlie Kirkshaw, a company that specializes in gold iras and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments dot Com. That is Noblegoldinvestments dot Com. 00:01:17 Speaker 3: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's Friday, May fifteenth. We're here at the Yree five Studios in Phoenix, Arizona. 00:01:24 Speaker 2: Got our merch. 00:01:24 Speaker 3: This is one of Charlie's favorite shirts. By the way, never Surrender. You can check it out get your own shirt there. But I want to get started right away. 00:01:32 Speaker 4: Here. 00:01:32 Speaker 3: We've got Andrew Ferguson. He is the FDC chairman, and he's also the vice chair of the Anti Fraud Task Force that. 00:01:41 Speaker 2: Jd Vance is chairing. 00:01:42 Speaker 3: He's vice chair and I want to get right into it because we have limited time. So welcome to the show. Mister Andrew Ferguson, Chairman of the FDC. How are you, sir, well, thanks for having me. Well, we are so proud to have you and honored to have you because you are doing the people's work. I think when we look around the federal government, when we see what you are doing to counter fraud in states like Minneapolis and California and Maine and elsewhere New York, it literally makes my heart happy because this is why we elected President Trump in November of twenty twenty four to do the people's business and to take back what is being robbed and ripped off from us, the taxpayers of this country, oftentimes by foreign people that should not be here, that are taking advantage of our generosity. 00:02:28 Speaker 2: Sir, the floor is yours. 00:02:30 Speaker 3: Tell us why you agreed to be vice chair of this task force and what you guys are accomplishing. 00:02:35 Speaker 2: Spike the football, Sir well. 00:02:37 Speaker 5: I think generally, if the president asks you to help your country, you stand, salute and do your job. And when he asked me to take this on, you know, I said yes. And I think this is one of the most important initiatives that President Trump has put forth in either of his terms, because this fraud is bleeding the country dry. And this isn't just a financial issue. Our society, the society we inherited as part of Western civilization, is premised on neighbors being able to trust each other on basic issues, that we don't have to constantly check everything that everybody is doing. That there has to be some level of mutual trust. The Western civilization requires high trust societies. If elements of society are bleeding the rest of us dry, we will lose trust in each other, We will lose faith in our government, and we will lose faith in the American experiment. And so this isn't just about putting money back in the pockets of Americans from whom it was stolen, although that's important. Part. This is about restoring the trust that is necessary for American civilization, for Western civilization to survive at all. And that is why only President Trump could have done this. No other president has taken the civilizational mission of the United States as seriously as President Trump. And if we're going to continue carrying out that mission here and everywhere else, we have to restore trust. And so that just as much as the finances, just as much as going after the criminals. That's why this effort is so important. 00:04:13 Speaker 2: I think that's so spot on. 00:04:15 Speaker 3: I think we don't give enough credit to the fact that our civilization only exists if the people have confidence in it right, and that we trust that the system is being followed. I mean, we've Charlie used to talk about anarco tyranny where the state would go after the law biding and they would allow the chaos agents to roam free with impunity. That is finally getting flipped. And I think it's critically important if you're going to ask somebody to pay their taxes, you better darn well believe that that money is being put to good use and that the bad guys aren't getting free reign to rip you off and take advantage of your generosity. So I completely I salute your ideological framework. 00:04:52 Speaker 2: And the premise from which you're operating. 00:04:53 Speaker 3: Sir, I want to ask you give us some examples, because I've seen I was looking at your X feed this morning. You've got h Sie involved. I know Secretary Besson hasn't been involved in Treasury. You guys are using the DOJ. There's a task force there explain how the whole of government approach is being utilized and why that's so critical to success here. 00:05:16 Speaker 5: The only way to fix this problem is to have every element of the government with some responsibility working hand in hand with all the other parts of the government. And that's why only the Vice President could lead this task force. You need someone with the gravitas and the capability to stand above everybody else and say this is how it's going to be. Everyone needs to work together, everyone needs to share information, share resources in order to get this done. And that is why it is so important that Vice President Advance is doing this and only he could. And you really need to think about this as like a two prong approach. Prong one is bad guys go to jail, and that is DOJ's job or DHS doing very important work on that front. Two with HSI, who has remarkable investigators and lawyers at their disposal. But at the end of the day, people who steal from the citizens of the United States, especially if you are here as a guest of the American citizens, you are going to get caught and your butt's going to jail, and that's DOJ's job. The second thing we got to do is we have to stop the bleeding. It's impossible to stop fraud if your theory of fraud stopping is let the money all go out the door, and then we'll go chase the bad guys. There's too many bad guys. It's too much money, and a lot of that money just vanishes. It leaves the shores of the United States, it lines the pockets of the governments of our adversaries. If we want to really stop this problem, we have to stop it in the agencies, and that means that the agencies need sophisticated, advanced systematic fraud detection networks within their agencies that can tell when someone is probably making a fraudulent claim on a benefits program. Whether that's unemployment insurance, snap Wick, Tan't, Medicaid, Medicare doesn't matter. All of that needs to be handled within the agency because once the money goes out the door, it's very hard to get it back. And that is what the task Force has been doing. We have technologists that have been going to these agencies and saying, hey, let us help you harness the power of AI, harness American innovation and technology to build systems that will keep the money from going out the door and actually protect the American taxpayer. And then for that money that does escape, we have DOJ ready to go after these people. They got a huge conviction on a Medicare fraud scheme yesterday that was amounting to almost a billion dollars. DOJ is ready. The task Force is in all the agencies helping them build the systems treasury where a lot of these payments happen. It has sophisticated systems treasury. Cio is a former DOGE guy. He has built incredibly sophisticated systems to help the other agencies do this. We have in the coming weeks, we'll be announcing a great incentive program for people to come forward as whistleblowers to alert the agencies when they're being ripped off by all sorts of frauds stas. This is going incredibly well. And again at the end of the day, it's because President Trump stepped in the breach and said, this ain't happening to American citizens anymore, not on my watch. And Vice President Dance is the only guy who can bring all the agencies together and say we have to work together, we have to solve this problem, and we have to solve it right now. 00:08:24 Speaker 6: Yeah, we love doing the calculation here. We just showed six point three billion dollars in frauduing the payment stop. That's what the graphic we had up. 00:08:32 Speaker 7: And we love the. 00:08:32 Speaker 6: Math of that's you pay about the average person pays about five hundred thousand dollars in taxes lifetime. So that's the just with that the lifetime tax amount of twelve thousand, six hundred people. So you know, a small town, all their taxes for life, it's covered just by this fraud that people are. 00:08:50 Speaker 7: I love a system. 00:08:51 Speaker 3: Back to that and miss Ferguson here, Chairman Ferguson, you know, we talk about using the power of government, it's a constant that conservatives are too scared to use it. You guys just deferred one point three billion to California because they're refusing to play ball fifteen seconds. How important is that tool in your arsenal. 00:09:10 Speaker 5: It's critically important, and at the end of the day, what we're trying to do is save these programs. People have been paying into Medicare their entire lives. People have been paying the taxes that fund Medicaid their entire lives. Fraud is going to kill these programs because it siphons money from people who actually need it. The way we're going to save these programs is killing the fraud. That's why these tools are so important. 00:09:32 Speaker 3: Final thoughts about where you guys are going to go next and what we can hope to achieve through this task force. 00:09:38 Speaker 5: Well, I'm going to draw your viewers' attention to one thing that the Vice President announced yesterday that is a little wonky but is really important. All fifty states in DC are required to have Medicaid fraud control units. It's prosecutors and investigators whose job is to prevent, investigate, and prosecute medicaid fraud their states, and we collectively, as taxpaker taxpayer, send about half a billion dollars a year to these units, and the largest chunk of that goes to California. And for years, HHS was basically rubber stamping these units because HHS has to certify that these units are up to snuff, and we announced to all the units yesterday this isn't happening anymore. And the reason that this is so important is that so many of these units are falling down on the job. And this is a huge problem because part of the way medicaid is supposed to work is that the states are supposed to partner with the federal government to stop the fraud. But if the states aren't going to partner with the federal government, we're basically giving money to ags to line their pockets, and fraud is just going unobated because the states aren't lifting their share of the burden. But the other thing that these units are supposed to do is stop elder abuse. It's specifically in the laws creating these units is that one of their jobs is to police elder abuse and elder fraud in facilities that are fund by Medicaid and Medicare, and that's like all of them. And so with these units, especially in states like Hawaii, which has not a single prosecution in five or single conviction in five years. California, which gets five times as much money as Virginia did under Republican Attorney General A. G. MRAs and he got five times as much money back for taxpayers as California did. Stopping the fraud is about making sure that people who really need these resources, people have paid for them. American citizens who need these resources in hard times that generous Americans have agreed we're willing to help, can actually get them. If we don't stop the fraud, these programs won't survive. President Trump is trying to save Medicaid, Medicare and Snap by stopping the fraud. And that's what this task force is all about. 00:11:47 Speaker 3: We have your beck, Sir Andrew Ferguson, FDC Chairman and Vice Chair of the Anti Fraud Task Force. The work to eliminate fraud, it's so critical. I'm so glad you guys are diving in and with just such earnest. I think it's so important and so neat. Thank you, sir, God bless you. 00:12:03 Speaker 2: We have your bet. 00:12:05 Speaker 3: All right, we got to get to another clip. President Trump sat down with Sean Hannity last night and it was quite the ranging interview. 00:12:13 Speaker 2: It was long. 00:12:14 Speaker 3: They talked about a lot of stuff, and I would say ninety nine percent of what they discussed I agreed with. There's one part, however, that I felt was central to some of the things that Charlie spoke about. Some of the things that Blake and I both care a lot about that are just. 00:12:27 Speaker 2: A gentle, gentle correction. 00:12:30 Speaker 3: And I want to chalk this up to a generational divide, right, because if you are President Trump, you grew up with the United States university system being the envy of the world. It is the gold standard. It still really is in some ways. In some ways it's not. In some ways, it's become corrupt and bloated, which we've talked about a lot on this show. 00:12:48 Speaker 2: But I want to talk. 00:12:48 Speaker 3: I want to play this clip, and I just want to offer our counterpoint here. Again, ninety nine percent of what President Trump said in that interview was spot on. No issues at all. He's on the point, He's on the game. This one I just again, I think it's a generational issue place at one. 00:13:05 Speaker 4: As far as the students, it's five hundred thousand students, they come, good students. I could tell them I don't want any students. It's a very insulting thing to say to a country. They would then immediately go out inside building universities all over China. But if you don't have those students, good students. By the way, I frankly think that it's good that people come from other countries and they learn our culture and many of them want to stay here. 00:13:35 Speaker 8: I think it's good. 00:13:37 Speaker 2: All right, Blake your initial reaction. 00:13:39 Speaker 7: It's a few things. 00:13:40 Speaker 6: Honestly, the best defense of what the president is saying is we have a really bad trade deficit with China, and one of the few things we export. 00:13:47 Speaker 7: To them is college diplomas. 00:13:50 Speaker 6: So if they send students here and we can sell them a piece of paper for tens hundreds of thousands of dollars, and well, we're not selling them that many cars, We're not selling them that many manufactured goods. We're maybe selling them a bit of agricultural product. It's one of the few things we still export to China. So to speak, outither deal. But the concern is, he points out, they'll start building universities in China. They've already done that. While we've had our universities be sinking under DEI and massive administrative bloat. China's universities are becoming the best in the world. Actually, like look up Peaking University, Singha University, those are absolute world class. The best students now stay in China. We're actually not getting the best students from China anymore. But the reason China really wants their students to keep coming here, the reason they don't consider that humiliating, The reason China could easily think we want our students to stay in China as much as possible. They like sending them here because they view every young Chinese person as a de facto spy. Even if they're not in the direct employ of Chinese intelligence. They can get on the staff of researchers, they can infiltrate organizations that do sensitive research. They can st technology, they can take information and bring it back to China. 00:15:03 Speaker 7: Or even if it's as simple as they can fill a. 00:15:06 Speaker 6: Job that otherwise could go to an American who would learn this field and instead it's being learned by a Chinese person who can go back to China, and America will not have a person capable of doing that China does. And I think all of those factors make it a little worrisome, and it shows why China wants their students to keep coming here so much. 00:15:25 Speaker 2: Hmm, yeah, I think that's exactly right. 00:15:26 Speaker 3: So a country, This is what was going through my head the whole time, Blake, is that China kind of like Iran. These they will refuse indignities. They will they do not want to be humiliated. So ask yourself, why are they willing to sort of tacitly admit that, Oh, America's universities are better. We're sending five hundred thousand of our students over to America because they have an ulterior motive. The ulterior motive is to take up space from Americans, spy, steal technology, steal research, and then send it back to China. So President Trump's answer to this was actually fairly interesting. He said, well, we spy on them too, so what do you want me to do as Yeah, this is a massive insult to a country to say you can't send your students here. 00:16:08 Speaker 2: There was a time and. 00:16:10 Speaker 3: I would say the fifties, sixties, seventies, even the eighties was really big on this, maybe the nineties as well, where the idea was very optimistic in nature that we're going to do these cultural exchanges. The students are going to come to America, they're going to see how amazing our culture is. They're going to go back and they're going to be diplomats on behalf of the United States. 00:16:27 Speaker 6: Now the opposite happening. They come to America and they think this country is messed up. 00:16:30 Speaker 3: Well, maybe maybe not. I think there's there's some that's you. 00:16:33 Speaker 7: Being a little bit okay, maybe I'm two black. 00:16:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a black pilar. 00:16:37 Speaker 7: They're not waking China. 00:16:38 Speaker 3: Democratic point is when you go when you're a young American and you want to get into the sciences, you want to get into computer technology, these types of things, robotics, and you go in and say you're a white boy from uh, you know, Omaha, and you walk in and it's ninety eight percent Chinese and Indian. You think, WHOA, I guess I'm in the wrong place. We don't want that. We are the nation that sent me into the moon, where the nation that created the atom bomb. We are the nation that has pioneered countless fields, computers, robotics, it's AI. 00:17:08 Speaker 6: It's not just that, it's that they're because we bring in some of these students and they feel, for example, graduate student slots at the school time, they're bringing down the wages that the school's pay to those so it doesn't pay as well to go into those fields, which keeps Americans from going in. 00:17:20 Speaker 3: But it crowds them out as well. It crowds them out. 00:17:23 Speaker 6: It crowds them out, and it lowers the actual economic appeal of doing it. So someone who's good at math, who maybe we should pay them four hundred thousand dollars a year to be a rocket scientist, they're going to go make fourhunre thousand dollars you to be a quant on Wall Street. But a quant on Wall Street, I'll be frank, is not as valuable as well. 00:17:41 Speaker 3: Because you're pushing around papers and financial instruments. Yes, there is some value. I'm not like a complete black pillar on financial instruments. There can be great creativity in the financial markets. Our capital markets are the envy of the world too. But when you actually make physical things. This is why Charlie loved so much you're making physical things. You're creating and producing rockets and cars. There is incredible value to a country that can still produce and manufacture physical objects. Got to hit this clip really quick. This is about farm land and Chinese buying it up. 00:18:14 Speaker 4: It's not ten I would assume I'm in Beijing if I wanted to buy property near one of their military installations. 00:18:23 Speaker 9: I don't think, President, I don't look. 00:18:25 Speaker 4: It's not that I love it. You want to see farm prices drop, you want to see farmers lose a lot of money. Just take that out of the market. But they've had a lot of land for a long time. Obama did nothing about it. They bought a lot of it during the Obama administration. He did nothing about it. 00:18:46 Speaker 3: All right, So the fact that prices might fall could actually end up being an okay thing for the next generation that maybe wants to inherit the land or buy some land, become the next generation of farmers. I think you got to let the dust settle. You got to let the market settle. Where Americans are buying it up. We talked about this with institutional buyers with first time home homes. 00:19:06 Speaker 2: I think you. 00:19:07 Speaker 3: Gotta clear the field and let it be what it is. You cannot be allowing a foreign power that wants bad things for America to be buying up our farm. 00:19:16 Speaker 10: Lan. 00:19:17 Speaker 6: I would much rather have China investment in America than Chinese students in America. 00:19:23 Speaker 3: How much are life, liberty in the pursuit of happiness worth to you? This is the question America's founders had to answer. 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Graham, welcome back, my friend. 00:21:15 Speaker 8: Good to see you, hey, thanks for having me. 00:21:17 Speaker 3: Guys, well, I want to congratulate you. 00:21:19 Speaker 2: You have a new book out. 00:21:20 Speaker 3: And anybody who has never written a book doesn't understand just how excruciatingly difficult it is to write a book. And you've done, so, sir, tell us about it? And why now what is the premise? 00:21:35 Speaker 8: Yeah? So I was challenged to write a book. 00:21:38 Speaker 10: It's called stand Fight When Our Battle for the soul of America. So I was challenged to write a book that was not just oh, Graham's mad about something and Graham's ranting about something. And ironically, I was challenged to be more like Charlie. 00:21:55 Speaker 8: And I know that sounds cliche, but it was. 00:21:58 Speaker 10: It was like, all right, everybody knows what the problems are, everybody sees the issues. How do we actually move forward and how do we actually win? And so and I was also challenged for what does the mid terms look like with Donald Trump on his last, you know, his last term as president, what does it look like, you know, moving forward in a you know, a post Trump type world. And then September tenth changed. All of our lives changed, everybody's lives. The world stood still literally in the middle of writing this book. 00:22:34 Speaker 4: And. 00:22:36 Speaker 10: It put it put to words this horrific thing that I saw coming. And even in the book when people read it, I say in the beginning, a lot of this book was written before September tenth, and I chose to keep it the way that I wrote it originally because of, unfortunately and tragically what unfolded with Charlie and the political assassination culture that we find find ourselves in now and the character assassination culture we find ourselves in now, and there is an active effort to divide our side, there is an active effort to disenfranchise the American voter to show up in the midterms. 00:23:15 Speaker 8: And the whole purpose of this book is to. 00:23:17 Speaker 10: Hopefully ignite a spark back into the American people that the war for our country never ends. That's the biggest that's the biggest lie, that's the biggest bad news. Is everybody thinks that one election and then it's over, and then it's done. We won, and we don't have to fight anymore. And that's actually the exact opposite. Every single election, every single midterm, every single presidential cycle, it's another battle in the war that is to preserve our American way of life here in this country. 00:23:49 Speaker 8: And so that's why I wrote it. 00:23:51 Speaker 10: That's what I was challenged to do. I feel pretty good about this one. I think people will see a different side of me coming from the ADMIN side of this and seeing the real depths of the swamp, if you will, And I hope that it encourages a lot of people to show up in November. 00:24:08 Speaker 3: I love that you chose to keep into in the book what you wrote before nine ten. Actually I find myself as well, Graham, going back to that frame of mind, you know, when we were just day and day out with Charlie and like going through the messaging and remembering that as sort of a north star for how to comport ourselves and how to behave because some of the stuff that's happened in the wake of it. I mean, obviously you know this as well as anybody, Graham. You've been so outspoken, has been so extreme, has been so completely unthinkable before nine ten that I think some of the things that we knew that that can remain our north star, the way that we did things, the way that we looked at challenges. I just think that that is a purifying thought. It is a clarifying thought because so much has been disorienting since that. Almost going back to that time just before or can be very focusing in I think healthy. 00:25:04 Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I think so. 00:25:05 Speaker 10: And I was listening to the footage that you guys were playing of Charlie right before this, and just even what he was talking about then, how there are people trying to divide us and to get us to fight against each other, to lose focus of what the. 00:25:19 Speaker 8: Actual mission is and the actual mission is. 00:25:22 Speaker 10: In twenty twenty four, we had one of the greatest historical political comebacks in history. We defied all the odds, not just for President Trump's resolve, but also for turning point USA and Charlie and you and Blake and everybody else in Erica and so many people played such. 00:25:41 Speaker 8: A vital role in that. 00:25:42 Speaker 10: And I refuse now to let that be thrown away because we have these instant gratification societies. 00:25:50 Speaker 8: We have these people that. 00:25:54 Speaker 10: Take the policies that Trump is doing that are actually very good policies we had. 00:25:58 Speaker 8: Trump went to China just now in a position of strength. I talked about. 00:26:03 Speaker 10: This China, seeing them roll out the red carpet for President Trump, I thought that was amazing. He's got fifty percent of their oil with the straight of hormous Like the things the President is doing is going to make America better for generations to come. But you now have these victim mentality chaos agents that are trying to convince the American people even though we won, oh we didn't really win, like, oh, we thought that Trump was the guy, but oh he deceived us too, and all of this, and it's the next thing and the next victim, and the next deceit, and the next divide, and the next chaos and the next confusion and again. That's the purpose of this book is to reignite in the American people, who admittedly, I know you guys feel the same way I do. I'm tired. I know you guys are tired. I can't imagine Erica. I can't imagine the president. I can't imagine how many of the American people are tired. Maybe a little bit weary, maybe a little bit battle fatigued. But that's the whole point is to keep pushing forward and to keep moving forward through the midterms so these policies do have time to take effect and to educate the next group coming after us, because we all can't fight for forever. 00:27:16 Speaker 8: No one can fight for forever. The goal is to keep. 00:27:19 Speaker 10: Reigniting the torch to hand it off to the next, younger, better, smarter generations behind us again, which is why I wrote the book. 00:27:28 Speaker 7: It's so good. 00:27:29 Speaker 6: I think of some of Charlie's favorite lines that people ask him what his favorite quote was, and his lead follower get out of the way, which is a very aggressive favorite quote to have, but it does tie in so much with what you're talking about, which is you are certainly not leading or following if you're just sewing, discord, complaining, finding reasons to be aggrieved, ignoring successes, refusing to look for additional successes that are available. And Charlie was so good about a find that that he would he would tout the victories on the border, on on trade, on whatever you want to find, and then he would also be finding new things to find victories on. 00:28:11 Speaker 7: He loved to lobby red state legislatures. 00:28:14 Speaker 6: He would love, for example, the redistricting fight going on that he would be celebrating the states that get it done, like Tennessee. He would be nagging the states that are dragging their feet like Mississippi right now, but in a way where it's not just they've betrayed us, this party is dead. He would be saying, call your legislators, get this done, sure and make this happen. It's that he also loved to talk about having a growth mindset and an abundance mindset, that there's always improvements out there, there's things, don't take any defeat too personally and find new ways to move past it. 00:28:48 Speaker 7: Don't settle on just whining all of the time. 00:28:52 Speaker 8: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. You know, I did my best. 00:28:55 Speaker 10: It's a very horrific version to try to channel Charlie's insight. 00:29:01 Speaker 8: And his leadership in this book. 00:29:03 Speaker 10: Again, I was challenged not just to be the the angry ground that rants and and you know, calls out what's wrong, but to I know, I know, I know, but but you know, at some point you have to maintain that person but also take the wisdom that we've gained along the way and hopefully channel it into a way where people My hope is that people will continue to go back to this book. 00:29:32 Speaker 8: That's my hope that. 00:29:33 Speaker 10: They find you know, lasting impact in this uh because again, the biggest lie that people believe is that we only need to want to win one election and then it's over. The fight for America, the fight for our freedoms to fight for our for our faith. 00:29:48 Speaker 8: It never ends, it keeps going. 00:29:50 Speaker 5: UH. 00:29:51 Speaker 10: And that's why I hope everybody will check out the book and they can go to Graham Allen dot com to get the book. You can buy it wherever you like. It's on sale. I will be doing the audio version. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing if you like the audio versions of books. But but I appreciate you guys so much, and and I stand with you guys. 00:30:11 Speaker 8: You know this wholeheartedly. 00:30:12 Speaker 10: And we literally are gonna stand fight when together in November, and I believe it. 00:30:18 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a page out of your book here, my friend, make sure to check out his new book at Graham Allen dot com. Check it out. Just announce today. Congratulations again on that. But I'm gonna take a page out of your book. You are a fearless voice in the space. You go straight for it. You deal directly with some of the main UH spreaders of disinformation and conspiracies, namely Candae Owans. Yesterday, she did have a an allegation you went I checked out your show this morning. 00:30:46 Speaker 2: You went straight for it. 00:30:47 Speaker 3: She was saying that at the White House Correspondence dinner that we were I guess, you know, complicit or coordinating with some like amp Page, the whole campaigns, the whole thing. 00:30:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, tell us about it. 00:31:01 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:31:01 Speaker 10: Well, the thing I went after the most is anytime Candace has any kind of evidence of any kind, all watermarks are removed, all email names are removed. 00:31:12 Speaker 8: And what I love the. 00:31:13 Speaker 10: Most is of everyone who was at the White House Correspondence dinner. And this is no disrespect to you or Erica Kirk in any way, but you guys were plotting and controlling the whole event, according to Candace own So you've got the president there, the vice president, secretary of State, Secretary of War, the whole line of secession for the presidency. But it was you guys who were running and pulling the strings to hoax this entire thing. And what I love more than anything else was Candace going on. 00:31:46 Speaker 8: This because this is what she does. 00:31:47 Speaker 10: She says something, people listen, Not very smart people listen, but people do listen. And then where's the evidence. Oh well, the evidence something happened, and now we don't have it. But what I'll do is I will I will retype the most pertinent information. 00:32:05 Speaker 8: So the screenshot that she put up there about this whole. 00:32:08 Speaker 10: Conspiracy to boost Erica's as she calls it, that I want to go home video. 00:32:15 Speaker 8: Even in her description she says, this is not the email. 00:32:20 Speaker 10: I retyped what I viewed to be the most important points of all of this, and then I commented and I said, this is the most made up thing I've ever seen in my life. And then she never provides any type of truth, any type of anything in that regard. 00:32:36 Speaker 8: And so I really hope the White House does respond. I would love nothing. 00:32:40 Speaker 2: More they did, Graham. Actually, so I missed it. 00:32:44 Speaker 8: I missed it. 00:32:45 Speaker 2: Response, show it to me. 00:32:47 Speaker 3: The White House Military Office has no knowledge of the communications alleged in this post, and they did not authorize, draft, or publish the content in question. Any attribution to them is completely false. 00:32:58 Speaker 8: Completely false. Wo wow, love it, love it, love it. Love Here's here's what. 00:33:06 Speaker 2: I love. 00:33:08 Speaker 8: Go ahead. 00:33:08 Speaker 6: Sorry, I was just even the response to someone said someone was responding to Mark and you know, why did you spend time on this? And he says, well, it just seems so outlandish and so verifiable. I decided to just send an email and then post it on X not a lot of work. Now I will say, maybe it's real. I don't I think Andrew I could all say, we have no idea what. 00:33:30 Speaker 5: Any of this? 00:33:32 Speaker 3: The text between Blake and I yes, hilarious, Blake goes is this is this real? It's like, what is it? I have no idea what? Like there's alway if I can tell you the number of times that like allegations have been made and I'm like, what on earth? 00:33:47 Speaker 2: Like what did they come up? 00:33:48 Speaker 4: What? 00:33:48 Speaker 5: Now? 00:33:49 Speaker 2: So this is like what the means? 00:33:50 Speaker 3: We don't whackable with this stuff, because like every day it's like something new that I've that I or the organization or Erica has been alleged of plotting, and it's so outlandish that I don't I don't even know where to begin. But you know, thankfully the White House stepped in here. 00:34:06 Speaker 10: Well, well that photo you just showed right there, that's what an actual inquiry and response actually looks like. Candice, by the way, so so when people actually make an inquiry and people respond, that last slide you just showed, that's what it actually looks like in a real email thread or a text thread when people So for all those that are watching of what actually getting evidence looks like there it is that that well, it doesn't look like a retyped you know image. 00:34:31 Speaker 2: Yes, that's hilarious. 00:34:32 Speaker 3: I'm not sure on the exact timeframe, but i will tell you I was trapped in that White House Correspondence ballroom for I believe, I don't forty five minutes to an hour fifteen before. 00:34:45 Speaker 8: I was trying to text you, Yeah, before I got. 00:34:47 Speaker 3: Out, because they locked it all down. I couldn't even get out, like, and there was no service down there. 00:34:51 Speaker 4: Like. 00:34:52 Speaker 3: I got two calls that went through when I was down there. One was my wife ten minutes after, which I was grateful for because I tried to call her immediately just to let her know I was okay, because I was hiding under the darn table and with Harmeat Dylan, who got stepped on by the way by a secret Service agent. They later came by our table, stepping on the chairs because it was so packed in there. Anyways, my wife got through to me, which was like a miracle, honestly, because I kept trying to dial out and it would just get, you know, stopped if call failed. 00:35:23 Speaker 2: And then I got a call. 00:35:24 Speaker 3: From Jack Posobic, I think, And then actually three, because then Tyler Voyer called me just to check on me. So those three calls came through. Nothing else would go through for me. Uh So I had to get out, and then they wouldn't let you get picked up in an uber. I had to hike seven or eight blocks out of the vicinity before I could get an uber to pick me up. I remember it was like it was. It was just a wild, wild night. It was terrifying, actually, and mostly because I thought the President had been shot. 00:35:52 Speaker 2: So I'm hiding under you. 00:35:54 Speaker 7: Than any of us watching. 00:35:55 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I knew nothing. Nobody in that room knew anything. 00:35:58 Speaker 3: All I remember seeing is like, you know, there was reporters that were getting up on the stage like doing selfies, and I thought that. 00:36:05 Speaker 2: Was really inappropriate. 00:36:06 Speaker 3: But like when I was when I was down there, I'm asking everybody that I'm huddled around the table with, going like did they shoot the president? Was I just present at an event where the president was assassinated? 00:36:16 Speaker 6: But I just want to highlight a bigger thing about this. This is ridiculous because the central accusation, the reason she's running with this is the idea all the white the White House went and they just the military. It's so suspicious that they would just aggressively amplify this video of Erica Kirk to get lots of engagement? Does that does aggressively amplifying videos of Erica even to get us maximum engagement? Described anyone over the past past eight months? 00:36:42 Speaker 7: Does it? I wonder? 00:36:43 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I wonder who that could be? 00:36:45 Speaker 10: Ten seconds Grah, Go check out the book. 00:36:49 Speaker 8: The whole purpose of it is to find against what we just talked about. 00:36:52 Speaker 10: You can go to Graham Island dot com or literally anywhere you buy your books. 00:36:56 Speaker 8: Thank you guys for having me, Love Turning Point, love the show. 00:36:59 Speaker 3: Bless you Graham always got your back. Thanks brother, We'll see you soon. Getting prescription medications shouldn't be this complicated, but for a lot of people it still is. Appointments, waiting rooms, delays, It all adds up. But there's a better way to do this. 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We're gonna do a special e con themed hour because we have the one and only calm Plume of Noble Gold Investments with us call Plume. You are not just a precious metal guy. You are a knower of macroeconomics. 00:38:23 Speaker 2: You're an expert. 00:38:23 Speaker 3: You study this stuff, you absorb yourself in it, and so I thought it'd be really. 00:38:27 Speaker 2: Fun to bring you in for that. But welcome back to the studio. 00:38:30 Speaker 9: Yeah, good, good to be here. 00:38:31 Speaker 11: It's been a while, Yeah, it has been it's been a while. Yeah, a lot lots happening. And uh yeah, I love everything money, you know, dollar, gold, finance, real estate. 00:38:41 Speaker 9: So I love it. 00:38:41 Speaker 2: You're a nerd about it, I love Yeah. 00:38:43 Speaker 9: I like to I like to dive into it. 00:38:45 Speaker 7: It's what I do. 00:38:46 Speaker 3: So you guys can work with Colin directly at Noblegold Investments dot com slash kirk. Uh, definitely add that slash kirk so we get some credit for it. So Noble Gold Investments dot Com slash kirk. But tell us just give us a bit primary then we're gonna take some some questions. 00:39:02 Speaker 2: You've got a bunch of fun beautiful. 00:39:04 Speaker 9: Yeah, I brought some some produdt. 00:39:06 Speaker 11: I know everybody loves a gold kilo bar, so I brought this thing just because the weight. 00:39:10 Speaker 2: It's really heavy. 00:39:12 Speaker 3: Like people do not understand how heavy this is. Blake, I could throw it to you, but it would probably Yeah. 00:39:18 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's a it's a it's a girthy gold bar. How much is the kilogram of gold worth at this point? 00:39:23 Speaker 9: It's around one hundred and fifty thousand. 00:39:25 Speaker 7: Dollars, okay, anyone, it's a little lower today. 00:39:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you hand that back. 00:39:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, fifty, you just brought a hundred. What are you thinking? Have you not met our staff? 00:39:37 Speaker 11: There's metal detectors, Yeah, say be safe. Yeah, it's a it's an interesting day, Kevin Warsh. You know, to day's the day he's going to be. 00:39:45 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he takes over, and he takes over today. 00:39:47 Speaker 11: So I thought that's why today was a day. I thought it was a good day to come in because what's gonna I mean, the Fed has such a massive job right now with everything that's happening, and President Trump has been you know, sounding the belt. 00:40:02 Speaker 9: We want a lower rates, we want a lower rates. 00:40:04 Speaker 11: The problem is is that inflation, you know, last month hit almost four percent, and the Fed has this mandate of keeping inflation down and trying to you know, create jobs and create a sound economic policy. So today he's in office, and then he has about a month before he has his first meeting, and there's all kinds of speculation about what he could do. Candy cut rates, is he could he raise rates? I mean, all these different things are happening. So that's why I decided to come in todays. 00:40:33 Speaker 9: A lot's happening there. 00:40:34 Speaker 3: It's huge, and everybody's always asking what about the straight what about energy? What about China? China's big in the news right now. So what are you, as somebody that studies this day in day out, what are you looking for when it comes to the China diplomacy the economic negotiations. 00:40:51 Speaker 11: Yeah, well I think that you know, interesting just in terms of finance, China has a very interesting thing that they have to tackle, and that they have three. 00:41:01 Speaker 9: Trillion US dollars. They also have a massive amount of US treasuries that they hold. They also have, you know, they say a small amount of gold. So they always walk the tight rope. 00:41:15 Speaker 11: Of they know the dollars crashing, they know that the dollars losing value, They know that they have to be sort of diversified from the dollar, but they own a. 00:41:24 Speaker 9: Lot of dollars, so they so they're always. 00:41:27 Speaker 11: Walking that tightrope of what to do financially for them, what's going to be the best strategy. So they don't want to completely bash the dollar. But you know, the Brick nations have said repeatedly they want their own currency. They want it partially backed by gold or other currencies. So these are the things that I sort of look at as like, you know, China says, we don't have that much goal with twenty three hundred and twenty four hundred tons, but then you've seen they've had almost you know, five times that amount in China. But the government has been reporting that they that they actually own it. 00:41:57 Speaker 9: That that's just there. 00:41:58 Speaker 2: Interesting. 00:41:59 Speaker 9: So they're walking a tightrope, is what China is? 00:42:02 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, gosh, you have so many fun things here. I'm like tempted to just like say, you know, what is this? 00:42:09 Speaker 9: This is a gold back. So this was a there was a. 00:42:11 Speaker 11: Guy about eight years ago decided that gold used to be money, and let's make gold money again. 00:42:17 Speaker 9: So he created this gold back, very popular, and you know, there are corporations that actually accept this that's actual gold. This has gold in it. It actually has about a little over four dollars of gold in here, okay, but it shows one dollar on it. 00:42:32 Speaker 11: So this actually illustrates exactly the problem with our currency and why gold is so much more value because when he created this, it was actually less than a dollar of gold, just around that amount, and now it's. 00:42:43 Speaker 9: Four dollars of gold. 00:42:44 Speaker 11: So that's how much the dollar has lost value over the last six or seven years since it's been this has been created. So these are illustrations of things that are happening behind the scenes. Inflation eating away at our living and our cost of living, and it's something that you know, we talk about a lot. 00:43:02 Speaker 3: We have a question from Gracie specifically, I think Taylor to you. Gracie, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Unmute yourself. You are on with Colin Blake and Andrew. 00:43:12 Speaker 8: Good morning. 00:43:13 Speaker 12: My question is do you have any financial advice for newlyweds. 00:43:17 Speaker 11: For newlyweds, well, first, congratulations, I mean, let's let's thank you. 00:43:22 Speaker 9: Let's talk about that. 00:43:22 Speaker 11: I think there there's the first thing is have you had an open and honest conversation about everybody's finances? 00:43:30 Speaker 9: I would say that's the first thing. 00:43:32 Speaker 7: Ideally you had that before you got engaged, but. 00:43:34 Speaker 11: Ideally but not always. So have you started there? I mean, is everything transparent between the. 00:43:41 Speaker 8: Two of you working on it? 00:43:44 Speaker 10: Yeah? 00:43:46 Speaker 11: Okay, so you haven't had that, So I would say that's probably the first place. So, as you said, I mean, sometimes you get you know, you fall in love, and finances come later. But now that you're going to build a life together, I think the first thing is to dissect what's there. Probably the first thing to do is look at debt, what kind of debts both of you guys have, and putting together a plan to start to wind down some of that debt, because at the end of the day, when you get together, the debt's going to be, you know, together between the two of you, So that would be the first thing to do. Also, if there's any retirement accounts or any money that's available, or anything that could kind of build your net worth, you should start talking about those things. 00:44:25 Speaker 2: So I have a question for you. 00:44:26 Speaker 3: So if they say they've got fifty thousand dollars in savings and they've got fifty thousand dollars in debt when they're coming together as newlyweds, do you usually kind of recommend that you pay off all the debt first, or do you simultaneously pay down some of the debt and invest some of the money. 00:44:41 Speaker 11: You don't want to be you don't want to have zero cash, So I would never say put all on the credit card unless you move in with. 00:44:49 Speaker 9: Your parents and they say we'll take care of you. 00:44:51 Speaker 11: Guys, get to zero, but one hundred percent, you pay off the debt first, you don't do any investments anything. If you have a four to one K at the job and they're mad a four one k, and. 00:45:01 Speaker 3: There's'd be a penalty for pulling that out. 00:45:03 Speaker 11: Yeah, so yeah, okay, yeah, but I'm saying if you're at a job and they have a four one K and you're putting three percent a year, you could continue that. But I wouldn't do anything drastic. I wouldn't buy a house. I wouldn't do any of those things until you're at zero debt. 00:45:13 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think that's here. I think a good rule of thumb, also in terms of if you're a newly wet is to just to remember so if you don't have kids yet, for example, anything you're able to save now the compounder turns on that are far greater than anything you saved later, and once you have kids, it's going to be harder to save a brand. 00:45:30 Speaker 7: I always like to emphasize that, just you know. 00:45:32 Speaker 6: My personal story, I made very little money at my first job in Washington, d C. 00:45:37 Speaker 7: But I lived with a friend of my dad's for a while, spent no money. 00:45:41 Speaker 6: I think one year, at one month I had a credit card bill of one hundred and sixteen dollars, and as a result. 00:45:46 Speaker 7: So I saved a surprising amount for the mount I earned. But that was happening. This was twenty thirteen. 00:45:51 Speaker 6: This was still the post two thousand and eight stock market, and so anything I saved in that period basically has made five times just from the market going up since then, and never mind any other dividend stuff. So I always liked you know, if you can, you just moved in together hopefully, and your expenses overall. 00:46:09 Speaker 7: Should hopefully go down as a result. 00:46:11 Speaker 6: Sure, and you can save tremendous amounts of money in that time period before you have kids and so forth. 00:46:16 Speaker 9: Great advice. 00:46:17 Speaker 7: I love it. 00:46:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, that's that's an underappreciated aspect of when you do get married, don't do it before. We're not like into cohabitating around here. But when you do get married, you don't have two rents anymore, you don't have a lot of duplicate expenses anymore, and you can really save more money. 00:46:32 Speaker 7: The guy's not spending as much on dates, though you should still do dates. 00:46:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, you should definitely still do dates. 00:46:36 Speaker 3: We don't wanna, we don't want to encourage people not to all right, next question. 00:46:40 Speaker 2: Who's up next? 00:46:42 Speaker 7: How about we do Michael? 00:46:43 Speaker 2: Michael, welcome, Michael, get you hear me? 00:46:47 Speaker 4: Yes? 00:46:48 Speaker 9: Yes, awesome. 00:46:50 Speaker 13: So you said financial topics, So here here's one. I'm a truck driver and you know, both sides of the aisle keeping way and people are talking about the Federal Reserve and all that stuff. I know it has to do with Congress, but when are they going to get serious about letting the middle class keep the value that we bunched our bunch. 00:47:11 Speaker 2: For every day? 00:47:12 Speaker 13: Because kind of tired and I don't see any part of the federal government being serious about it. 00:47:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree with this. 00:47:21 Speaker 3: This is one of the and I really want to talk about the gold standard. What's happened to the dollar since then? Because I think that's, uh, you know, that's really hollowed out the purchasing power of the middle class. I just want to say that till the day I die, I will be a budget hawk because you know Bannon talks about this too. 00:47:38 Speaker 2: It's the lords of easy. 00:47:39 Speaker 3: Money right where you get uh, they print all this money, it it causes inflation, and really what's happening is it's eroding the working classes ability and their purchasing power right of the dollar. And so until we get a balanced budget and we get until we get really serious about this, we're printing money and we're inflating the problem and kicking the count can down the road. So I'm really really big on that, and we haven't we haven't lost sight of that. And you know, if you go back to the one big beautiful Bill, the debates that we had about that, that was one of Charlie's biggest problems actually was that we wanted to cut more. Turns out it wasn't really a spending bill, but and so you got to deal with it in chunks, and right now, divided government filibuster, we're not going to get those big cuts we want. We're not going to get those that balanced budget that we need. But that's really what's going on here. I don't know if you agree or disagree, but that's a big part. 00:48:29 Speaker 11: Yeah, No, I mean, I mean, you look at the government debt, you know, thirty nine trillion today. You look at when you know Ronald Reagan was in office, it was at a trillion basically, so we and now our our interest on that thirty nine trillion. 00:48:44 Speaker 9: Is over a trillion. 00:48:45 Speaker 11: So we're spending well per year, per year, we will never get a balanced budget. I'm just gonna say that now. I don't believe in it. 00:48:54 Speaker 3: Maybe they're say, we got one in the nineties, we got once. 00:48:56 Speaker 11: Yeah, but it's it's I think we've we've gone too far in terms of what we're spending. 00:49:02 Speaker 9: In terms of the question of how to do it, I think if you look at the. 00:49:07 Speaker 11: Opportunities that are out there, you know, you being a truck driver, hopefully there's you know, extra income coming in to invest. 00:49:14 Speaker 9: You really have to do. 00:49:15 Speaker 11: Everything to start setting aside money to invest, to grow, and you got to get your money. 00:49:22 Speaker 9: You know, when you look at the stock markets, say you're like, wow, stock market's so high. 00:49:25 Speaker 11: What is that saying to us? Are the corporations that much more profitable? I would say, no, They're not that much more profitable. I think it's actually saying that the dollar is so distrusted in the world that people are saying, well, I'd rather just put it in the stock market. I'd rather put it in gold or other things. They just don't trust the dollar, I think, I think. 00:49:45 Speaker 6: But to get around to another aspect of it, this gets at why it is important and valuable to get investments that are not just cash savings, because one of the reasons inflation is most damaging to middle class and lower is there more likely to just keep a larger share of their assets in savings. 00:50:02 Speaker 7: And some of that's because you need cash for emergencies. 00:50:06 Speaker 6: Day and all of that, but sometimes it's just they don't necessarily know what else to invest in, or they distrust markets and all of that, and so they just sock it away in cash under the mattress literally or metaphorically. And when you're in higher inflation times where they're devaluing currency, you are the loser in that situation, whereas the winners are people who are invested in things that it just increase their cash value in response. 00:50:32 Speaker 7: To that, stocks, yeah, metals, what have you. 00:50:35 Speaker 3: That was one of the reasons that COVID was created, one of the largest wealth transfers in human history. And the middle class got screwed. And the incumbent financial class that owned assets, that own properties, that own stocks, bonds, precious metals, all those sorts of things, they have made out like bandits because their net worth shot through the roof. Meanwhile, people holding savings or working wage jobs. They got apps the short end of the stick. And that's why we're talking about you got to put your money to work for you so that it's making money while you're sleeping, while you're not able to drive a truck. 00:51:08 Speaker 2: That's the key. 00:51:09 Speaker 3: So while the government's just going to keep spending and spending and spending, devaluing the currency, debasing the currency, you go, you got to get assets that are making more more on the return on investment than inflation. 00:51:21 Speaker 11: Really, and one thing that fun chart is Odell Beckham Junior. I think we have the famous football player he decided to take seven hundred and fifty thousand of his salary in twenty twenty one and put into bitcoin, and everybody thought he'd a little crazy or a genius. And you look at what that seven hundred and fifty thousand and bitcoin has done relative to the dollar. Obviously, in dollar buying power, it's down to five hundred and twenty five thousand. So keeping the dollar blake, to your point, is a terrible investment. 00:51:48 Speaker 2: So it's lost thirty percent of its purchasing. 00:51:50 Speaker 11: Right, Bitcoin's up a little bit nine hundred and thirty two thousand value, But look at gold and look at silver. If you'd bought ounces of gold and silver in twenty twenty one, you'd have one point almost two million dollars in gold value, and then silver is a big winner two point nine million dollars in value from twenty twenty one. This shows the ability of what gold and silver can do during heavy inflationary times, and I think today is an interesting example because gold and silver are down because there's some thoughts that the worst is going to come in and that he could raise rates or things are going to happen. In my opinion, that he's going to do some kind of quantitatyvasing. He's gonna he's going to open up the money supply. He's going to figure out a way to do it. There's even been talks about changing how the CPI are though I no, no, Some people think he's going to raise rates, but that's a lot of the reaction today is that the ten years up, so they don't think he's gonna be able to cut rates. That was the big thing everybody President Trump was hoping he comes. 00:52:49 Speaker 3: Back with iron, putting inflationary prices on energy, which trickles down through the whole economy. There's still got this inflationary pressure for going to deal with he's got to keep rates either steady or. 00:52:59 Speaker 11: Or or or find another way to get more moody out there. And that's and today's a reaction to that. So today is the day that I love in the metals market. You see this pullback, and you know it's a. 00:53:08 Speaker 9: Buying opportunity to acquire precious. 00:53:10 Speaker 11: Metals because at the end of the day, when he's in in a month, he's in today, He's got a month, and then he's gonna announce what he's going to do. I don't think he's gonna sit on his hands. I think he's going to try to get rates down, try to get more money out there to stimulate the economy, because there's a lot. 00:53:24 Speaker 3: Of people out there that want But this is a great graph, by the way, to the point of the question, it's like, okay, we are debasing our currency. If you kept it in cash, you're down thirty percent. If you invest it in silver, you're up almost three hundred percent. Your money's worth almost three million bucks. So that's how you do it. That's you got to invest in stuff that's going to earn a far greater return on investment. Than the value that the dollar's losing. Here's what your financial advisor won't tell you. By the time the news tells you to buy gold, it's too late. 00:53:57 Speaker 2: You're waiting. I get it. 00:53:59 Speaker 3: Everybody's waiting, waiting to see if the ceasefire holds, waiting to see if the strait of horm Moose reopens, waiting to see what happens next. 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All right, next question, don Welcome to the Charlie Kirkshow please umute yourself. 00:55:13 Speaker 14: Hi, guys, I appreciate you taking my call. And I just wanted and I just wanted to say that I'm a proud member of Team Erica and I'm and I'm taking the Bible sixty five for the first time this year. 00:55:28 Speaker 2: I'm like, God, bless you. That's awesome. 00:55:30 Speaker 3: I think she's actually recording an episode today of that, so oh excellent. 00:55:34 Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I apologize. I've I forgot today was supposed to be big about economic. 00:55:43 Speaker 3: That's okay, No, no, no, that's okay about it. 00:55:44 Speaker 9: Yeah, all right. 00:55:46 Speaker 14: I've The question I have is Andrew, you said I think about a month ago that you were taking the Constitution one oh one course from Hillsdale, and I was wondering if you would finish that, and if if so, what you're taking now? 00:56:02 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, So Constitution one on one the meaning and history of the Constitution. 00:56:07 Speaker 2: It's excellent. 00:56:08 Speaker 3: I'm about halfway through, and you know, actually the reason I took that was because I remember I was on a plane with Charlie and he was taking it and I was just blown away by this concept of how the Founders spread out political power over not just geography, not just states, but over time and over you know, function. 00:56:30 Speaker 2: So they did it intentionally. 00:56:32 Speaker 3: They spread and diffused power across not only different institutions. So you got the three legged stool, right, You've got the judicial, you've got the legislative, and you've got the executive branches. Then you've got two year terms, six year terms, four year terms, and then you know, so this concept that the Founders really pioneered has swept over the world because it was so brilliant. You can't have the passions of the people, you know, be be taken by a mom, Donnie or something, and then within like six months the whole country has shifted irrevocably and you can't get it back. 00:57:03 Speaker 2: No, that you have to sustain. 00:57:05 Speaker 3: A movement has to prove its merit to the people over six years to fully turn over a government six years. So you think about the Maga revolution that President Trump ushered in that's been about a decade. Why because it actually has staying power. People like populism, they like nationalism, they like you know, basically the industrial base, reinvigorating the industrial base, and tariffs. 00:57:28 Speaker 2: All these things. 00:57:29 Speaker 3: These ideas have staying power, and that is why it's lasted for a decade. But you know, these flash in the pants can't take over the United States. That's why I love Constitution one on one. The Hillsdale does a great job on it. You asked, what would I do next or what course would I take next? I'm planning on taking the Introduction to Aristotle's Ethics How to Lead a Good Life. 00:57:48 Speaker 2: Charlie loved Aristotle, Socrates. 00:57:51 Speaker 3: Plato study them a lot, and so I've committed myself to study them and become as good as I can at those. 00:57:57 Speaker 7: You're gonna have a hard time. The Nicko Mackey ethics is hard to read. 00:58:00 Speaker 2: Well, that's why Hillsdale is gonna make it easy for me. 00:58:03 Speaker 3: Why it's not easy, I will tell you Hillsdale, these courses are actually really rigorous, and that the scholarship is really deep, and it's profound, and it's excellent. So you got to devote yourself to it. But it's free. Uh, and I recommend it. Charlie for Hillsdale dot com, Blake, what do you think about my choice with Aristotle? 00:58:22 Speaker 7: That's a good one. 00:58:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, Lewis. 00:58:24 Speaker 3: Would be another fun one, be easier for sure. 00:58:27 Speaker 2: The Federalist papers, could I. 00:58:29 Speaker 9: Do a constitution reference here? Article one, Section ten. 00:58:32 Speaker 11: No states shall make anything but gold and silver coin at tender and payment of debts. 00:58:38 Speaker 9: So, I mean, listen, there's a reason why I was in there, right. 00:58:42 Speaker 3: Interesting, Now did we know because okay, hold on, this is actually I don't know this part of the constitution. 00:58:47 Speaker 2: Do you know this part of the Constitution that's obviously no longer true? 00:58:52 Speaker 6: Well, the states don't make their own money, right, So what what was the transition Constitution? Oh, it was kind of a gradual amendment. No, it's not so much that the Congress has the power to coin money. I want to say it was around the Civil War where we really transition to centralized US currency being really dominant and having paper iterations of it. It's a complicated economic question, to say the least. 00:59:18 Speaker 9: And we went to a central bank policy. 00:59:19 Speaker 11: So it changed. Yeah, so but you know that's when people you know, I know his original question was about talking about the Bible, and then we were in. 00:59:26 Speaker 9: The Constitution both places that gold was money. You know, there's never been people have. 00:59:32 Speaker 11: Been talking about how we're changing the currency, that the currency is going to change, and the dollars and what There's never been a currency that has that has been a world's reserve currency that has. 00:59:40 Speaker 9: Not been backed by gold. 00:59:42 Speaker 2: Are you an abolish to FED guy? 00:59:44 Speaker 9: I listen. 00:59:45 Speaker 11: I love rum Paul, huge fan of rom Paul. I think that it's what's the next who's in charge? This is my problem because the idea that the power goes back to. 00:59:57 Speaker 9: Congress, that's equally as troubling for me to imagine. 01:00:01 Speaker 3: All yeah, so I don't like the alternative is and unless somebody comes up with Blake, are you are you an abolish the FED guy? 01:00:11 Speaker 2: It's a big step to take. 01:00:13 Speaker 6: I've not thought that hard about it, and I guess what I would say is, as whatever the issues with the FED, it has coincided with the period of absolute peak American economic dominance. 01:00:23 Speaker 7: So if it's true, but even the. 01:00:26 Speaker 6: Decline came in decades later, and I don't think it was because of FED policy. I think it's because we decided to borrow infinity amounts of money and export our industrial base. And I don't think the FED forced anyone to do that. What I do think is interesting with the gold and silver thing is it gets at something, which is the the sort of desire to debase currency for short term economic thinking has been around for a long time. 01:00:51 Speaker 7: That's why that's in the Constitution. 01:00:53 Speaker 6: Because they're worried about some sort of They called them levelers. Then they didn't have instead of socialists, they had levelers who wanted to level all economic differences. And so what levelers would do is they would want to, for example, they might introduce a paper currency and wipe out everyone's savings essentially by mass inflation, inflate everything away and use paper money. 01:01:14 Speaker 7: And of course we see that today. 01:01:15 Speaker 6: There's plenty of levelers in today's terms who want to wipe out economic differences, who would happily tear down the entire economic structure to equalize everyone or elevate themselves, and the Constitution was aware of that risk. 01:01:30 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean the British did this to the colonialist I mean all the colonies use their own paper currency actually, and even after the constitution, a lot of them had their own paper currencies as you mentioned. Anyways, fascinating stuff here. Thank you for your question. 01:01:44 Speaker 2: Dom. You're going to go to Who's next? Mary Oh? 01:01:48 Speaker 3: Anthony, Anthony, okay, Anthony, welcome back to the show. 01:01:51 Speaker 2: I meet yourself. What's your question, sir. 01:01:53 Speaker 15: H This is for Colin. So Colin, through my financial planner, I have paper gold and silver, and I would like to add physical and I trust him very much, but I also don't trust going too a pawn shop all the time. So it'll be best to talk with your company about this or what would you recommend? 01:02:10 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I think it's well. People always ask me like what about paper gold? And I'd say, if you're actively trading, I don't know if are you really hands on with your are you more of like you set it and set a plan and then maybe every. 01:02:23 Speaker 15: Year son mindset for high risk and I like to high risk and everything, so I max up my investments each year. So I think was like, which is like seven thousand dollars I think according to government? 01:02:35 Speaker 13: Right? 01:02:36 Speaker 2: Yeah? 01:02:36 Speaker 9: Yeah, all them? What kind of IRA you have or form one K plan you have? 01:02:40 Speaker 14: Right? 01:02:41 Speaker 15: So but my guy can only do like the paper gold and paper silver, and I would like to add physical because like I have digital currency as well, like bitcoin and all that through him and everything, so I have I have a diverse portfolio, but I want something physical too. 01:02:54 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:02:54 Speaker 11: Absolutely, And that's kind of how we came about. Is this idea that you want something outside the system. And I do think in this time has changed when they're talking about CBDCs and there's a real shifting with AI to this. 01:03:09 Speaker 9: Everything's digital gold really fits into that. 01:03:12 Speaker 11: And it's because you finally have something that's outside the system, right. You know, at the end of the day, your form one k's, your eras are all a digit unfortunately, and so if something were to happen, like what kind of control would you have over that? Whereas physical gold you'd have some you have it, it's it's yours, it's a it's something to protect you against the system. 01:03:33 Speaker 3: Do most of your clients do they actually like have a safe at their home with a gold like physical gold in it or do do you store it for most of your life? 01:03:41 Speaker 9: So I would say a lot of times it's both. 01:03:44 Speaker 11: Okay, most people do both. Most people have a safe and home. We ship it to their home in a discrete package. We can also store. Most of the people that that we store for outside of an Ira are a little bit older and maybe they're traveling, but usually younger people. 01:03:59 Speaker 2: Shipments was be heavy. 01:04:00 Speaker 11: Yeah, they're heavy packages, So I would say absolutely we can assist you. 01:04:06 Speaker 9: We focus on bullion coins and bars, so we don't. 01:04:09 Speaker 8: Get into the lot of billion. 01:04:10 Speaker 9: Yeah. This is bullyant. 01:04:11 Speaker 11: This is going to get you the most bang for your buck, the highest weight, highest purity. And the other reason you don't want to go to a pawn shop is that the problem is when. 01:04:18 Speaker 9: You want to sell back. See we sell the. 01:04:20 Speaker 11: Same items day to day, so we're going to give you a great buyback price. When you go to a pawn shop, they don't know how long items are going to set around, so they have to mark put a premium on the back end because. 01:04:31 Speaker 9: They don't know. 01:04:31 Speaker 11: We're turning around products all the time. We've done almost four billion dollars in sales in bars, so we have people coming selling and buying all the time. So we're going to give you a good price coming in and also a great price coming out. 01:04:44 Speaker 2: Okay, by the way, go ahead, Anthony. 01:04:46 Speaker 4: No. 01:04:47 Speaker 15: I was just that sounds more safer than going to a pawnshop, you know. 01:04:50 Speaker 3: It's yeah, don't go to a yeah no, no. 01:04:55 Speaker 15: Everybody up here where I just go to a pawn shop, they do gold and silver bars and coins, and I'm like, I don't know if that sounds really safe to. 01:05:02 Speaker 3: The price gougey. By the way, a lot of a lot of people in this space price gouge. And that's that's one of the reasons we're with Colin, because I did a whole study on this. I don't want to get into too much of detail, but I did a whole study in all the like companies and like some of these companies like legitimately it's like highway robbery, and Colin is not that he's the opposite of that. 01:05:23 Speaker 2: So yeah, anyways, I mean, I you know, I think it's fair to. 01:05:26 Speaker 11: Say, right, yeah, absolutely, yeah, and we can definitely help you out. And also you're gonna get a live person to talk to. 01:05:32 Speaker 9: It's not like a bot or anything like that. 01:05:34 Speaker 15: So you can I already know because I've already I actually downloaded your free gold investment thing already. 01:05:40 Speaker 2: By the way, you know what, you know what it's funny about Colin. 01:05:43 Speaker 3: I actually thought this was kind of like I didn't know what to make of it when I first met you. 01:05:46 Speaker 2: But you were like the big silver guy too. 01:05:48 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you do four billion in gold, so you do a lot of gold. But I remember you were like really big on silver, and I you know, it turns out you were right. You know, like if Odell Beckham Junior would have put it in silver, he'd have seven fifty thousand would turn into three million and not nearly as much. 01:06:04 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:06:04 Speaker 2: Absolutely so, I meane it varies time to time. 01:06:06 Speaker 3: But anyways, so Anthony, since you're asking it, that is a noblegold Investments dot Com slash kirk. 01:06:14 Speaker 2: Do it? 01:06:14 Speaker 3: You gotta do the slash kirk for me, Anthony Mary Mary, Welcome to the show. 01:06:20 Speaker 16: Hi, my questioner. What are your thoughts on DEI and employers that still use this during their hiring process and any advice for young adults that recently found out they were only hired because of their skin? Are sorry of the race? 01:06:36 Speaker 2: Oh? Interesting? 01:06:37 Speaker 3: So you know somebody do you know somebody that found out they were only hired because they were not white? 01:06:41 Speaker 2: Essentially? 01:06:42 Speaker 16: I'm going through that, right, going through. 01:06:44 Speaker 6: This right now, Okay, I mean if you are hired for something you're unqualified for. One thing is if you're not qualified for it, you should possibly look for another job, especially if it's something where you know, maybe people are putting trust in you and lives at risk. But at the same time, we are aware people need to earn a living. It's strong to say, like, oh, quit your job because you don't deserve it or whatever. What you should do is you should become worthy good way if you want a frank way. Clarence Thomas our favorite Supreme Court justice. He's pictures overtly admitted he received boosts from affirmative action throughout his life. He came from a very impoverished background. He spoke with a Gulla accent growing up, and he, let's be frank, he was probably put on the Supreme Court partly for affirmative action reasons, you know, by President H. W. 01:07:34 Speaker 8: Bush. 01:07:35 Speaker 6: But he became an amazing Supreme Court justice. He's absolutely worthy of the sea. He's been an incredible jurist and we can look to that as an example. So become worthy of things. But don't and don't don't use it as a crutch. Don't be reliant on that sort of thing. If you're on the other side of things, if you are denied. 01:07:52 Speaker 7: A job because of DEI stuff. 01:07:55 Speaker 6: The good news is for ages in America, it was sort of treated as we'd have these laws say you can't discriminate based on race and hiring, and the Anderson implied, less you're white or a white man, then they can flagrantly do it. And what this administration that we have has done is they've encouraged and opened the door and made it clear you can sue over these things. Right now, the New York Times is getting sued by a white male editor who's been there for ages. It has never gotten promoted, and he says, I was not promoted because they were just endlessly promoting less qualified people to hit diversity quotas. And what's great about this is these lawsuits, now that they're uncorked, they're going to be fish in a barrel because these companies, routinely they just have emails and text messages and communications that are like, yeah, no more white dudes, no more white guys. If you had that for any other race, you're absolutely vaporized, and you should get vaporized in the same way for doing it to white people. So if you've suffered that, consider looking for lawyers. 01:08:53 Speaker 3: You have a case well, and so it sounds like you maybe are benefiting in this instance from this. I would It's just to add on to what Blake was saying, become qualified, take a you know is we had this great interview with Tucker and Charlie years ago, this clip with Viral and Tucker. 01:09:08 Speaker 2: It was a great line. 01:09:08 Speaker 3: He said, take a job you're not qualified for, like live boldly, So you know, really dig into this. And you know, Charlie used to talk about this all the time that one of the victims of DEI what are the people that get the jobs that then have to think about was I actually qualified for this? Was I the best at it? And then you have this insecurity, the sense of inadequacy that hangs over your head. Do not fall victim to that. And when we're talking about getting rid of DEI, we're talking about in broad strokes macro as a culture. This is bad for our cultures, bad for our economy. But on the micro, if you find yourself in a position where you've benefited from that, and you believe the right things and you have the right values, and you you know you're trying to do the best by your employer, then by God, take advantage of it. Make the most out of that instance, and so you never have to wake up another day in your life thinking did I get this because of some you know, racist system. 01:10:02 Speaker 2: You make the most of it. 01:10:03 Speaker 3: That is on you, the responsibilities on your shoulders, and so like we we pray for you that you will go boldly forward and you will take advantage of this opportunity. But on the macro it's terrible for the society and we want it to end fair enough. 01:10:15 Speaker 11: Also, I would say don't I wouldn't. Don't live in the past. I mean, you're in the position right now. And the reason I'd say don't live in the past, it's not going to do you any good. The other thing to think about is that I know a lot of business owners that that inherited a business right. 01:10:28 Speaker 9: They're just nepotism. Is it is what you make it right, and they. 01:10:32 Speaker 11: Jump into it and they figure it out and they don't feel guilty about it. I think you have a lot of awareness that maybe you didn't get a job that you should have, and having awareness of who you are and learning about yourself is actually someone that's going to be very successful. 01:10:44 Speaker 9: Everyone that I is successful as a person like. 01:10:46 Speaker 7: That, if you're the caveat. 01:10:47 Speaker 6: I did throw on the caveat about possibly mainly because we do have jobs for people. 01:10:52 Speaker 7: They're hired as like nurses or doctors. 01:10:53 Speaker 3: They're totally like electrical electrical work, you know, like I think that. 01:10:58 Speaker 7: We'll get someone killed or yourself killed. 01:10:59 Speaker 3: I want to get to last question here, Elizabeth. Elizabeth, welcome to the Show Me Yourself. 01:11:06 Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, okay, so quick question. 01:11:10 Speaker 12: I'm selling my house this year and we're going to get a house built somewhere else. And so I was thinking about putting half of that money into silver because I hadn't made a lot of money in silver this year. But this is also a situations where like we can't afford to lose the money and I need it in a year. 01:11:26 Speaker 11: What do you think, Well, you're planning to build a house, So I mean, obviously, if you're planning to. 01:11:31 Speaker 9: Build a house, there's there's other assets there too. 01:11:34 Speaker 11: I'm assuming I don't I don't know your financial situation, but you know, house. 01:11:38 Speaker 12: This is basically we're selling the house and getting a new house. Built somewhere else in a different state. We're just moving. So this is a this is my major asset. 01:11:45 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, listen, nobody has a crystal ball of what's going to happen in the future. I mean, I would love to tell you I knew it was going to happen in the next you know, three to five years. But ultimately, silver is a phenomenal investment. You know, China and the US made silver as strategic metal last year, so they basically said, we need to hold silver, we need to keep silver. They've had five years of shortages of silver. So obviously I love it and I believe in it. 01:12:12 Speaker 2: You wrote a whole book. 01:12:13 Speaker 11: I wrote a book on it, and then the other thing to keep in mind with with the wars that are happening. 01:12:17 Speaker 12: Made a lot of money in silver this year. 01:12:18 Speaker 11: You made a lot of money in silver's year, so you obviously know what it can do. So yeah, I mean I always say you know it sometimes knowing something. My book is called Silver is a New Oil. You could read it and get more information. But I do think we're going to see a lot of inflation coming in. I think that's why we're seeing the ten year go up pretty pretty high. 01:12:38 Speaker 9: You know, it's high fours right now. 01:12:40 Speaker 11: The long term is that we're going to see more and more inflation, and typically gold and silver. 01:12:46 Speaker 9: React very well. 01:12:47 Speaker 11: And if we do quantitative easing or any money printing, which I do think is going to happen. If you look at the last time we did quantitative easing in two thousand and nine to twenty eleven, you can look at the charts and see what gold and silver did. 01:12:58 Speaker 3: So So one question, though, she said, so she's going to sell her house. Let's say she has five hundred thousand dollars and she's talking about putting half of that in silver. Do you feel like that's too much? 01:13:10 Speaker 2: Or do what? 01:13:10 Speaker 9: What? 01:13:11 Speaker 3: What percentage of a portfolio would you. 01:13:13 Speaker 11: I think that ultimately what it comes down to is I'm not a financial error and I don't know what other investments you have, So I'm not gonna say a specific shure book. I think it's really important to give us a call. We can, you know, talk to you. We can learn no more about you. I think you should you prey on it. Talk to your husband or whoever's you know around you, and let's take some time getting to know each other, talk to somebody at Noble Gold. Let's build a relationship and then wherever it may, maybe you dip your tone in the water with us, or you do more later. But ultimately I think it's it's a personal decision. 01:13:44 Speaker 2: But you're bullish on silver. 01:13:46 Speaker 9: Yeah, of course, of course on bullish on silver. 01:13:48 Speaker 11: I like it, and I think you know, if you have some liquid cash, it might be a good place for you. 01:13:52 Speaker 3: Noblegold Investments dot com. Slash Kirk if you want to work with Colin, this is great man. 01:13:56 Speaker 7: We should use this again. 01:13:57 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll be back. 01:14:02 Speaker 7: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust. 01:14:05 Speaker 9: Go to Charlikirk dot com.