From the Archive: Charlie’s 2022 Live Free Tour Q&A at UNC Charlotte

00:00:03 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie kirk I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start at turning point, you would say, college chapter. Go start atturning point you say high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. Here I am Lord, Use me. Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. 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You can't because you're always going to be deriving it back to what standard, what moral worldview, what basis Now said differently, you could be an atheist. You're an atheist. Here to night, God bless you, haha, glad you're here, And no, seriously, I mean that, and you could believe everything that I believe. Politically, I would just probably say you derived it from a theistic Christian worldview, if that makes sense. So do I think they're linked together? So let me say this. I think if you are a Bible believing Christian, you should be a conservative as well, you know, conserving the good, the true, and the beautiful, protecting the vulnerable those that can't protect themselves, using strength to protect the weak, not the strength of crush the week, all these things that conservatives believe. At the same time, I do believe in a movement that is not only for Christians. Because we live in a pluralistic society of differences of opinions. I'm always going to own the fact that I'm a Christian as evidence by inviting Frank right up, you know, to just witness for you at the beginning. He did a great job, but any of that was great, he really did. But it is a movement where we are trying to fight for liberty. You might think liberty is just an accident of evolution. I think liberty is God's idea about man's idea. Does that answer a question? Thank you? 00:02:59 Speaker 3: Thank you, Hi, so honestly, I just wanted to ask how your wife and baby are doing. 00:03:05 Speaker 1: Thank you. That's very kind. Baby is nine weeks today, praise God, and we're very happy. She's doing wonderful. Thank you. I think they're watching right now, so and it changes your life in every way possible. Highly recommend ten out of ten. You should do it, So God bless you. Thank you. 00:03:25 Speaker 4: Hi. To address your previous assertion that race means nothing, critical race theory is not being taught in schools. It is an academic theory that's pretty much delegated only to higher academia. They're not teaching it in schools. Your explanation of it was an oversimplification. You address the real history behind it, unlike most people. And why if race means nothing, does it affect our history? Say nineteen twenty one Tulsa race massacre. Why is there such evil history with something that supposedly means nothing. 00:03:58 Speaker 1: Okay, so us all you're wrong. It is being taught in elementary schools. There have an example. Not only is it being taught, it's being enforced. So in Denver there is a playground where they say white families not allowed. Would you support that? 00:04:15 Speaker 4: That seems like a ridiculous edge case. 00:04:17 Speaker 1: So I'll give you another example. Actually, in the National Education Association's Training Manual, which is the largest teacher union in the country, they had a seminar on how to teach critical race theory to kids. That sounds like it's in our schools, doesn't it? 00:04:33 Speaker 4: What what that is is, it's literally just common sense. It's saying that this is real history, this is what has happened in the past. 00:04:41 Speaker 1: Right right? 00:04:41 Speaker 5: So what it? 00:04:42 Speaker 1: Okay? Got it? So, for example, do you would you say that black only dormitories is wrong? 00:04:49 Speaker 4: It certainly creates a sense of community. I don't see any problem with that. We have sororities, we have male only dorms. 00:04:55 Speaker 1: Right, So racial differences are irrelevant and immaterial. Chrome zonal differences actually do matter. But let me ask you a question. Are there differences between races? 00:05:06 Speaker 4: No, not biologically? 00:05:08 Speaker 1: Then why would we have different dormitories for races? Culture segregation is what you're arguing for my friend. Yes, no, sir, how is it not segregation to have blacks in their own dorm. 00:05:21 Speaker 4: You've just pigeonholed me essentially, you've essentially just like you've distracted from my original argument. 00:05:30 Speaker 1: No, no, you did that to yourself. Let's reemphasize. So Ibram x Kendy argues, who is one of the leading thinkers of critical theory race theory discrimination today to atone for discrimination of yesterday. We have black only graduation ceremonies at Columbia University. Black only dormitories across the country, for example, at Western Washington University. Can you join me today in saying black only dormitories are evil, wrong, and it's segregation. 00:05:55 Speaker 4: You still haven't answered my question about why does this history simultaneou mean nothing? 00:06:01 Speaker 1: Well, I'm happy to answer that, But the fact you're dodging segregation in America? 00:06:06 Speaker 4: Why is that I'm arguing against segregation. 00:06:09 Speaker 1: You're against black only dormitories. Yes, well, you said it was a force of community. And then for your not for critical race. 00:06:15 Speaker 4: Theory option, we have choice. 00:06:17 Speaker 1: Oh so you could choose to segregate. 00:06:21 Speaker 6: That's that's a pigeonhole. 00:06:22 Speaker 1: What do you think of white only dormitories? What would you support white only dormitories? Everybody has a choice. So I think white only and black only anything is evil and wrong. That's why I hate critical theory and critical race theory because when it's put in practice, when it's put in practice, you start to discriminate people based on race. So we're now south of the Mason Dixon line in North Carolina. We did a lot of work to get rid of segregation in this country. Why are you trying to bring it back? What work the nation? The Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four in this state? 00:07:01 Speaker 7: Yeah? 00:07:02 Speaker 1: Actually in this state. Are there black only bathrooms out there? Am unaware of? Or white only bathrooms? Nah? Right, A lot of work was done in the state. You your face is small, Well, thanks for being here. They always go to insults when they lose the argument. God bless you, my friend. All right, Next one. 00:07:29 Speaker 8: I don't have an edgy race question, okay, but my question is when sixty three percent of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck, not even able to afford a home, car, or even basic necessities, when wages have only increased fifteen percent since nineteen sixty five, well, the cost of a home has increased one hundred and eighteen percent. How does free market neoliberal capitalism address these issues? When free market capitalism breeds these very issues. 00:07:54 Speaker 1: So I probably agree with part of that. I would reject the neoliberal because I'm not a neoliberal. I believe the economy is neoliberal. You're not liberal, well not, Actually the economy is partially neoliberal. So you agree to not neoliberal part of our trade play, part of our trade policies have recently. 00:08:09 Speaker 8: We're globalism, we are globalized being brace globalization. 00:08:12 Speaker 1: That is neoliberal. You're getting way ahead of yourself, dude, like you're at like a ten. You got to slow down to Lega said, hey, I'm your I talk, I'm listening. Okay, good, all right? So how would free market capitalism fix part of this? Well, the answer is that there are externalities of free market capitalism. Markets should serve people, people should not serve markets. I would say generally, some of the facts that you cited are totally correct. I talked about the destruction of the American middle class. Some of that can be attributed to bad government policy. Hopefully you and I can agree that the government being able to create money out of thin air crushes the American middle class and creates a tax called inflation where every single working person in this room is one month poor despite working harder this year. That is because of government, not because of free market capitalism. That inflation is running out of control. We spent five trillion dollars we don't have on pet projects that were silly and awful and terrible. To your point, though, and I actually can agree, and I am not a neoliberal is I actually think that our economic policy needs to be done prudently, not ideologically in the sense of we should make more stuff here. We should protect the muscular class. We need to have our own industrial base. Immigration should serve the American citizen, both legal and we should have no illegal immigration. We should have a moratorium on legal immigration until wages go up and American workers and students are put first and given a preference. But I would say this though, there are some market forces that could be generally really good, okay, and just throwing away all markets in kind of one sentence and just kind of dismissing it, I think would be a catastrophic mistake. I'll give you some exam. I'm not anti market okay, good, I'm glad you clarified that. But I'd say that generally, the ability to be able to trade across state lines, for small businesses to start new products, for family owned business to pass down one family to the other without these crazy taxes and estate taxes, these are things I would support. Does that answer your question a little bit? 00:09:56 Speaker 7: Yeah? 00:09:56 Speaker 1: But that's not free market capitalism then, okay, what depends you define it? Right? So do you mean laissez fair no government interference. Lazi. 00:10:03 Speaker 8: It doesn't have to be las fair. It's just that's not free market. If you're only restricting jobs to America, it's not free market. 00:10:08 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, actually it is because Adam Smith, the author of Wealth of Nations, was a protectionist. Abraham Lincoln was a protectionist. So the original free market thinkers of the seventeen hundreds and eighteen hundreds, including Alexander Hamilton, they were free markets, but they were also nationalists. They wanted their country be able to thrive and succeed because markets should serve people in the country. People in the country should not serve markets. That's my position. Economically, markets are a general good for society. We should only intervene prudently when we see externalities they start to harm people, or wages go down, or there are results that we don't like in that regard. Thank you for your question and thanks for being here. 00:10:41 Speaker 7: Don Harli. 00:10:47 Speaker 9: First of all, I want to just say thank you for being here tonight, thank you for speaking, and thank you for giving other people a chance to speak. The question I wanted to ask was actually something you said earlier. How you said the question of hierarchy is not necessarily that to get rid of elites, But did you just have better elites? The argument I would counter, and I just want to know your thoughts, is the way I see hierarchy is you can have terrible people at the top, theoretically, people that are working in their own best interests, people that are corrupt, you know, and yes, that will affect the people at the bottom. But the way I've always seen hierarchy, especially in America, and some of the stuff I see today kind of goes back to what he said with lower wages. I'm sorry, I'm rambling. What is your opinion on the idea that hierarchy should be designed more so around just making sure the people at the bottom benefit regardless of whether or not the elites are necessarily corrupt. 00:11:33 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's a nice goal, but that didn't really work well in the twentieth century. 00:11:39 Speaker 9: Well, I was gonna I was gonna comment on that, and that some of the most prosperous points of America. A lot of people like to think back to it, things like the sixties and seven. Sure, you had a very corrupt American elite. You had an American elite that was starting foreign wars. That was after World War two with the defense industry disagree. 00:11:56 Speaker 1: I think was a pretty ethical president compared to I'm not saying that in a gang of criminals we deal with now. 00:12:01 Speaker 9: I'm not saying an individual president can't be fair a non ethical person. 00:12:06 Speaker 1: I'm yeah, But would you agree the fifties economic policy was more focused on a middle class than the lower class, right, because it was about an industrial base, It was about making stuff here abroad. It was about having trade policies that allowed us to be able to flourish and succeed. So the questions you're always gonna have high you are, we're always gonna have hih ary. 00:12:22 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's unavoidable. 00:12:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, good because pure Marxistic would say we eventually can get rid of them. I think that's woefully utopian. But the question is, then, when you design a system, who should it serve. Aristota would argue the middle class is everything. I totally agree, right, it's the people that don't commit crimes, they pay their taxes. Right, They're not going to get fabulously wealthy in their lifetime, but they should be able to have a commitment to retirement, see their life improve. Their kids should be able to get well educated and live a nice and normal life, and the society should be stabilized around that. Right when that middle class disappears and you get a permanent government addicted class too much on the bottom, or you get too much of an oligarchy on top, then I think the entire system starts to share. So I think we're saying the same things in some ways. But my argument is that you're always going to have hierarchies, and I would love to be able to see leaders in the top of the hierarchy, the billionaire class, if you will pander less to the needs, wants, and interest of some esoteric climate change propaganda from the World Economic Forum and instead say, hey, I have a lot of money. How am I going to use that money to benefit people's freedom and liberty and middle class potential, not trying to turn off our energy supremacy or superiority, which is the dumbest thing and actually hurts middle income Americans and make your energy bills even more expensive. If that makes sense, So. 00:13:31 Speaker 9: I guess you would probably agree then that kind of the difference between the fifties and now is that middle class has kind of been ground down on the intentional or the thing Okay. 00:13:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's a variety of things. I think public policy, I think Wall Street's taken over our government. But also I will say this, I don't agree with libertarians on a lot of stuff, but they are totally right on monetary policy. Our monetary policy has been a robbery campaign of the American middle class of destroying the American dollar, of depleting our purchasing power since the nineteen fifties. So, for example, and the nineteen fifties, your dollar just went further than it does now. It did, it did, and that destroys middle income earners and is a rigged game against working people. Got it, gets the next question? Thanks you, I appreciate it wrong. 00:14:14 Speaker 3: Hello, I had a statement to say you were banned on Twitter or whatever because you dead name somebody, and then you also made up the or not made up. Sorry, you put out the point that people were being banned for saying the truth about the Corona vaccine. I just wanted to say that two wrongs does not make it right. It's not right that you were deplatformed. I don't think anybody should be deplatformed for saying anything. I fully believe in freedom of speech, but I mean, I wasn't so happy with you. You seemed kind of proud about not proud, but it just wasn't seemed wrong to you that you were dead naming somebody. I get it, you know, if it was a mistake, that's fine. 00:14:56 Speaker 1: No it wasn't. 00:14:57 Speaker 3: It wasn't. Okay, Well okay, they you're proud of it. That does not make it right. I think as generations go on, we become more accepting to things, and I think that even if you don't like somebody, it's not a good idea to normalize dead naming. 00:15:15 Speaker 1: So can you explain our audience? What is dead naming? 00:15:17 Speaker 10: You probably do is. 00:15:19 Speaker 3: When somebody transitions and they choose a new name conforming to their gender. So if their name was Lisa before and they changed it to Jack, if you call them Lisa before that or Lisa after they transitioned, that is dead naming. 00:15:35 Speaker 1: What's wrong with that? 00:15:36 Speaker 3: I think it's very wrong because I have a lot of trans friends, and if they were dead named, it would be I mean shattering to them because it's something that is so personal to them. 00:15:49 Speaker 1: What shattering? 00:15:51 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it's I mean it's who they are now. People don't transition just for the hell of it. You know, it's a very personal thing to them. They don't do it to appeal to the other gender or whatnot. 00:16:06 Speaker 1: Yes, so, but let's think about it. Isn't it part of their biography? Can you really erase history and act as if that wasn't your name? For a while, for example, it was at it was another name than Rachel Levine. 00:16:17 Speaker 3: Well, why do names matter so much? I mean, it's what you want to be called. It's just a title for you. 00:16:22 Speaker 1: But it's part of your biography, right, It's a fact that a man who now thinks he's a woman, had a family, got married, and then magically decided to no longer be a man. I was talking facts. So your problem would be with telling of a biography. 00:16:35 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's not that it's not as deep as you think it is. It's just somebody, it's them now, and it's just being respectful. 00:16:44 Speaker 1: Oh okay, But it's being respectful by not being able to act as if they were something that they were and isn't their whole identity and being no longer what they were, So it shouldn't shatter them, it should be empower them. No, So then why do they call themselves trans if it's not their whole identity. 00:16:57 Speaker 3: Well they don't. I people go out saying guess what, Uh, I'm trans. 00:17:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, they kind of exists. 00:17:07 Speaker 3: That's Twitter. That's Twitter, I can guarantee you. 00:17:09 Speaker 1: And TikTok and most campuses and the trans groups and the trans flag and the trans parade and the trans music and the trans stuff. People say they're trans all the time. If the change is not part of their identity, then why do they call themselves trans? 00:17:23 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's just a title. Everybody like, our society is more, you know, we want titles for just about everything. 00:17:31 Speaker 1: I agree. So I don't accept the title, and I should have a right not to accept it. 00:17:35 Speaker 3: Well, you, everybody has a right to be respected. They haven't done any wrong. 00:17:39 Speaker 1: No, you don't have a right to be respected. You have a right to speak. You have to earn respect in a decent society. 00:17:52 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry, I wonderfully understand what you mean. 00:17:56 Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, so, for example, I don't respect the unibomber. That's an extreme example. I don't respect people that perform abortions. I don't respect people that medically mutilate children. And I don't respect someone that is taking lupron and says they're a man all of a sudden and demands I comply. That's not the way the world works. Respect must be earned. 00:18:24 Speaker 5: I want to talk to you about an issue so many Americans faith, and that's health insurance. There's an organization I really really appreciate called Christian Healthcare Ministries CHM is a faith based alternative to health insurance. And this is real stuff, Folks like you've got to listen in With CHM. You're not paying into a company's profit margin. You're investing in a community with less overhead than the competition. You get reliable support through the giving and prayer of fellow members. Members contribute every month to help pay for each other's medical bills, allowing believers to afford the care they need. 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You said it's wrong? But you can all of a sudden see where your viewpoint quickly becomes and we have to shut somebody else because you deserve respect. 00:20:02 Speaker 3: I mean, it's I mean, honest to god, I'm not trying to like I'm kind of losing my thoughts a little bit, but I just want to put out there that I think it's just basic human respect. You know, It's it's not that deep. People just if they feel one way and they've truly believed it. It's not just I feel like being a boint out. It's not just a on the wim decision. It's something that's helen inside. 00:20:26 Speaker 2: Right. 00:20:26 Speaker 1: Well, hold on a second, but I just want to I think you're being sincere in this regard. But why so, let's just take gender affirming care or whatever you might call it. Right, So, affirming someone's mental delusion where they think they're a man or a woman, why is that the appropriate line of treatment? For example, do we give liposuction to people that are anorexic? Well? No, I mean I think no, because we know better, we know it's going to harm them. We love that person, So that's not medicine. That would be torture. 00:20:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, And everybody who decides to transition decides to change their genitalia or go through something completely irreversible. 00:21:07 Speaker 1: Right, that's true. Some do, though, tens of thousand I. 00:21:11 Speaker 3: Have conflicted opinions on gender affirming surgery because it's irreversible, and if it's a decision made too young of an age, then it's not right to do it on children. 00:21:23 Speaker 1: That's fair. I appreciate the honesty. I really mean that, and you should be encouraged. I wish more people were sane enough to say that. But let me kind of complete the point. A biography should not be eliminated because someone demands respect. For example, I can say that Muhammad Ali used to be called Cassius Clay, It's part of his life, and then he found Islam and he decided to be called something else, and all of a sudden you get this rancor and this uproar that somehow I'm being hateful and no longer worthy of a Twitter platform because I set a fact that Levine had a name and a family and was a man and then claims he's a woman. If all of a sudden history and facts can be erased, we are dangerously approaching a nineteen eighty four dystopian world control scenario that I don't think any of us should entertain final thoughts. 00:22:08 Speaker 3: Okay, to wrap it up, my point was basically just I think it's better to normalize, just or not normalised, but like not put out that it's okay to do these types of things. I think it's just general human respect. I think we just all need to become more accepting and we don't really. 00:22:26 Speaker 1: Need to, you know, got it? And so my opinion is one to eighty we have clarity and not agreement. I'm not going to accept mental delusions with force. Thank you for being here tonight. 00:22:41 Speaker 10: All right, Hey, what's up? 00:22:43 Speaker 11: So my question is, given that ninety seven percent of scientists agree that man made climate change exists and that it will cause negative impacts in our lifetime, from more severe storms to droughts, how do you, as a conservative deal with that fact and what do you want to do to address it? 00:22:57 Speaker 1: Sure, I'm really curious about the three percent, aren't you? 00:23:01 Speaker 7: Yeah? 00:23:01 Speaker 11: I guess, like I don't know, like three percent of people think that if they can fly, but they can't, you know, But. 00:23:07 Speaker 1: It's three percent of scientists. Why do they think it's not anthropogenic? 00:23:11 Speaker 11: I don't think about the three percent. I think about the ninety seven scientist. How we think about you know, ninety seven percent of people who are struggling day to day. We don't think about the one percentage. 00:23:21 Speaker 1: Hold on, that's not the way science works. Do we take an up or down vote on Newtonian physics? 00:23:24 Speaker 2: Does? 00:23:25 Speaker 1: Who thinks force equels masstimes acceleration? It's irrelevant because we can prove it. 00:23:29 Speaker 11: Yeah, but there's still like two percent of scientists. There are probably nuts who don't agree. 00:23:32 Speaker 10: With that right. 00:23:33 Speaker 11: No, No, I mean if we pulled them, we can always find a nut. 00:23:37 Speaker 1: Why do we have to You think two percent of American physicists would say that force equal does not equal mass times acceleration, or reject Neutonian physics or the second law of thermodynamics. 00:23:47 Speaker 11: Two or three percent of people think that they can fly. 00:23:49 Speaker 1: You know, they're yeah, but they're not scientist kind. And I don't think two or three percent of people could fly. I think they can fly. I don't think that's exactly right. The point is this science is not at the momocracy. 00:24:00 Speaker 5: Is it. 00:24:01 Speaker 12: No? 00:24:01 Speaker 7: Absolutely not. 00:24:02 Speaker 11: So what do you think where do you think that ninety seven percent comes from? 00:24:05 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, the study is flawed in on itself. It's government funded, it's way over quoted. Let's pretend it's right though. Okay, you go through this, people arts and centivized to come to certain conclusions. But I'm fascinated by the three percent, the three percent, the two percent to one percent. The dissenter in science is always given a platform. That's what the scientific method is all about. In fact, prior to Galileo, we thought that the Earth was the center of the universe, and then Galileo was like, no, actually, it's the heliocentric theory. You know what happened to Galileo tried and put in prison and out the pasture because he dared disagree with the status quo and the scholastic belief. History is not very kind to the overwhelming tyrannical nature of scientists. That's say, ninety seven percent of us agree that lobotomies work until we realize they don't. Now, you might be right, it might be man made, it might be anthropogenic, but that three percent has a lot of credence. You should look at them, read their journals. They argue that there's thousands of other explanations for rise in global temperatures other than just carbon emitted from human beings, sunspots, global tilt, natural cooling and heating patterns, and just to say it's all human beings all the time. Also, it begs the question to what extent, what do you do about it? And what are you willing to then sacrifice? 00:25:14 Speaker 11: So real quick you can actually check charts online that show you the graphs of how sunspots tend to affect temperatures in the United States, sunspots, volcanic ruptures, all this stuff, and all of it doesn't count for account for the amount of difference that we've seen recently. 00:25:29 Speaker 10: So what do you say to. 00:25:30 Speaker 1: That depends on what scientists you talk to. That's what it's all about. 00:25:33 Speaker 11: It's not it's not the scientist, it's just the science itself, Like if you check graphs on any website. 00:25:38 Speaker 1: So show me a single scientist that can tell me, without a shadow of a doubt empirically proven that man made carbon emissions is solely to blame, and to what blame? And what is the equation? And then what can we possibly do about it? So this is a question. 00:25:49 Speaker 3: Right. 00:25:50 Speaker 11: No, again, I'm not saying that anyone is solely to blame. I'm just saying that humans are a big factor, and that's. 00:25:54 Speaker 1: What most people define big. What's the number big? 00:25:57 Speaker 10: I couldn't give you that exactly. 00:25:58 Speaker 1: Now, then maybe we shouldn't shut down the entire economy and change our energy sector over a number we can't define. 00:26:04 Speaker 11: Or maybe I'm just a college. 00:26:07 Speaker 1: Right, I mean we're talking about Europe. 00:26:09 Speaker 11: I'm saying maybe I'm just a college student who doesn't have that number. 00:26:11 Speaker 1: No, that's fine, but now we're talking about shutting down Europe and having an entire green energy obsession making I'm not saying that, no, no, no, but you are saying is when you start engaging in green energy fantasy or climate change fanaticism, let me call it that, you're gonna have serious ramifications. The United Kingdom could be a net energy exporterer. Instead, this winter they're gonna have rolling blackouts. They're gonna have people potentially dying from blizzards and from incredible cold. Why because they've had this entire green energy propaganda campaign that is making themselves intentionally poor, because of a community of scientists that are saying we must shut ourselves down because athrobogenic, human made, man made cause climate change. Ask the question, wait a second, what if the premise itself is faulty? And by the way, ninety seven percent of scientists were also saying, yeah, the COVID vaccine is the best thing ever. Ivermectin is awful and terrible. So excuse me while I'm just the dissenting contrarian voice which says the scientific community, whether it be in climate alarmism, or in COVID vaccines, or in epidemiology, I won't trust Anthony faucin epidemiology nor will I trust his equivalent in climate change alarmism. In fact, I've grown to custom to believe there's probably agenda, an agenda behind a lot of this stuff. 00:27:26 Speaker 11: Yeah, for sure, you should never trust. For sure, you should never trust just one scientist. And that's why I'm saying we should probably trust the ninety seven percent who say that. 00:27:36 Speaker 1: I'm really glad science is not a democracy, otherwise we would be in a very dark place. Always listen to the dissenting voice. That three percent is well researched, it's in the minority, it's been suppressed, and that ninety seven percent figure has been used now to really restrict Western energy dominance into making us poor and making the elites stronger because of it. Thank you for being here tonight. I appreciate it. Thanks. 00:28:03 Speaker 10: Okay, I just wanted to real quick ask you, Uh, can you clarify your definition of critical race theory? 00:28:10 Speaker 13: Uh? 00:28:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, Derek Bells, So what he wrote nineteen ninety one intro to critical race Theory? What's in that book? 00:28:15 Speaker 10: The whole book is your definition? 00:28:17 Speaker 1: How about this the one I used call everything racist till you control it? 00:28:21 Speaker 10: Oh so wait, but then that literally means its a critical race theory can mean basically anything you wanted to right. 00:28:29 Speaker 1: Like, can only calling it racist till you control it. I mean, I'm defining critical race theory in the modern American context is that we can go back to Herbert Marcuza one dimensional man, or Jacques dered or Michelle Fucout. But the most agreed upon legal I'm sorry, the most agreed upon academic theory is intro Critical Race Theory nineteen ninety one by Derek Bell. 00:28:47 Speaker 10: Yeah. 00:28:48 Speaker 1: Wait, but are you familiar with that literature? 00:28:51 Speaker 10: Well, yeah, I've read the book, but I don't remember anything about it. It was for like a college class. Like, let's be honest, nobody remembers the books they read in college. 00:28:58 Speaker 1: Sounds like a great value proposition to go to No, no, no, it. 00:29:01 Speaker 10: Is, trust me, But like a well, but you didn't go to college, so I guess you wouldn't know. 00:29:10 Speaker 1: It's true I didn't. So so let me ask you, though, Does that mean that I'm not able to have this conversation with you because I actually remember the book and you didn't it you paid for. 00:29:19 Speaker 10: It, So first of all, I didn't pay for it. There's these things called scholarship. 00:29:35 Speaker 1: Oh so somebody else paid for you not to remember the book is that you were supposed to read. Oh, some wealthy donor or taxpayer paid for you to not remember the book. 00:29:45 Speaker 10: I have a question. Who are your wealthy donors? 00:29:49 Speaker 1: Many of them are in this room. Thank you, guys for your wonder support. By the way, interest you, we have over one hundred and thirty thousand grassroots donors at turning Point, USA, one hundred and thirty thousand. I think we have some people in the back that chippen five dollars, ten dollars, fifteen dollars. God bless you, God bless you. God bless you. God bless you, God bless you. We are a grassroots funded operation. But let me give you another example. I'll give you five things that critical race theory believes. Number one the notion that racism is ordinary and everywhere. Number two the idea of interest convergence otherwise known as intersectionality. Number three, the social construction of race, meaning that there is a social construction around race in our society. The four idea of storytelling and counter storytelling. Number five is that no matter how hard you work, no matter how hard you do, you cannot remove racism. From your society. Those are five pillars of critical race theory based on Derek Bell's intro to critical race theory? Does that ring a bell? 00:30:44 Speaker 5: Yes? 00:30:44 Speaker 10: But like, okay, so let me stick with these. What do you think we'll edit that out my train? Oh? Oh my bad. 00:30:56 Speaker 1: Wait, it might not allowed to it's not encouraged. 00:30:59 Speaker 10: Oh okay. What was the third point? My mind is done? 00:31:06 Speaker 1: The social construction of race? 00:31:07 Speaker 10: The social construction of race. Do you not think that race is at least partially socially constructed? 00:31:13 Speaker 1: Depends how you define it. 00:31:14 Speaker 10: So, like, what defines where one race ends and where one race. 00:31:18 Speaker 1: Begins depends who you're asking. I think race is completely and totally irrelevant. Do you think race is relevant? 00:31:25 Speaker 10: No? 00:31:26 Speaker 1: Okay, then why are we talking about race all the time? Why are we talking about critical race theory? 00:31:29 Speaker 10: Well, you brought it up at first when you were doing your speech. 00:31:32 Speaker 1: Right now, I said it was a lie from the pit of hell that we should repudiate and stop talking about all the time. You're on scholarship. Sorry what nothing? Sorry? 00:31:43 Speaker 10: Go ahead. So to answer your question, I don't think that race means anything, and I guess you don't either, right, yeah, right, So then why do you keep bringing up race whenever you're on or speaking on a stage. I am not speaking on a stage bringing up critical race theory, you know. 00:32:10 Speaker 1: I'm bringing up how critical race theory destroys society and how we shouldn't talk about race all the time. 00:32:16 Speaker 10: Okay, but you're bringing up. 00:32:18 Speaker 1: Race, you know, critical race theory, not race. 00:32:22 Speaker 10: Okay, So what's the second word in that? 00:32:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's race, but it's a theory of how to view race, of which is a mind virus pathogen destroying America. Of which I said, again, just to reemphasize for those in the back, we could replay the tape with throw the red flag. We'll watch it over again. I said that what race means nothing. I care about your actions, your character, and most importantly, your soul. Thank you for being here tonight. 00:32:46 Speaker 3: Thank you. 00:32:52 Speaker 14: So I'm not really asking much of a question, but I'm looking for advice. I want to run for Congress in a few years when I become of age, and I'm just wanting if you have any pointers or direction you can help guide me. 00:33:05 Speaker 1: You should run. We need more young people to run. We have turning point action which is not represented here tonight, which is our political arm that would love to help you and train you and pour into you. It's an amazing organization that's doing such awesome things. Knock on more doors than your opponent. Have a message that resonates to voters. Respect your elders, and talk to people that have been in politics for a while and listen to them. I don't like when young people run for office and they don't listen to people that have been around for a while. They've really cut their teeth, They've been through a lot. It's something that I had to learn the hard way early on and really be like, Okay, what did you learn through this, what happened in this cycle and all that. They have a lot of wisdom to pass down. And I think you're going to be very welcomed and well received as a younger candidate. I mean that. Thank you, God, bless you. Thank you. 00:33:50 Speaker 10: Hey, Charlie. My name is Dylan. 00:33:52 Speaker 15: I'm actually the president of the chapter at University of South Carolina. So I was actually at CLS this summer. You know where you said chapters change the world, and I wholeheartedly agree with that. 00:34:09 Speaker 7: I was just asking you. 00:34:10 Speaker 15: So we had our fall semester come by its now, it's October now, and we had a big crop of freshmen coming in the beginning, but little by little, you know, some peter out and some stop showing up. So how do you how would you sustain what was what would be your advice on sustaining membership? 00:34:26 Speaker 1: Yeah, just have events be publicly out there. I'm always trying to invite dialogue and discussion, and look our turning point. You say, Chapter deserves a lot of credit for what they've done here tonight, and you guys do such a great job. I was just there a year and a half ago, two years ago, three years ago. I can't remember everything as a blur post twenty twenty if that, it just kind of comes as a blur. But you got to stay engage. You gotta make it interesting and then, you know, try to invite as many speakers as you can to campus. And then everyone loves a good debate. When you're looking for something to do, try to have a debate, dialogue, disagreement is always the best thing you could do. And we'd love to have you back. Yeah, I'll put it on the list. I went to Clemson last year, so I got it a tone for that, right, Yes, I know you're shocked. I won't do that again any time. 00:35:04 Speaker 7: You're gonna beat them this year? 00:35:05 Speaker 15: We are, mark my words. 00:35:13 Speaker 1: Right, Thanks man, appreciate it. 00:35:18 Speaker 16: Hello, I just want you to ask this answer this one question. Do you understand that as a white man, you do not have to apologize for being white? You just have to acknowledge the racism that happens around you. 00:35:35 Speaker 1: That is all, what racism happens around me. 00:35:40 Speaker 16: Let's say, let's say that a racist police officer shoots me right and kills me right. 00:35:49 Speaker 7: For you to be a. 00:35:50 Speaker 16: White man, and you see that and don't say anything, say anything about it. I believe that my community would be upset about that. Now, all you have to do is a white man, you don't have to get on the Internet or on Twitter and say I'm sorry for being white. 00:36:07 Speaker 10: But you should you should at least. 00:36:10 Speaker 16: Acknowledge the racism that happens around you. 00:36:14 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, you have an individual act of racism happens that is that. 00:36:17 Speaker 16: Is just taking accountability for what happens around hold on, sir, First of all, I don't have to be accountability for a whole race, do I? 00:36:25 Speaker 1: Why do I have to be accountable for the white race for yourself. Right, So if I'm racist, I'll take responsibility for. 00:36:32 Speaker 16: You probably are not racist. 00:36:33 Speaker 1: But thank you. Then why do I have to comment on somebody else's racism? 00:36:38 Speaker 16: But what you do, what you should do, is take accountability for the racism around you, not pretend, not pretend that it doesn't happen around you. Like again, the example that I gave you that if I was shot by a police officer, a police officer, and you found out that person was racist, right now. 00:36:56 Speaker 1: But you take responsibility, But how can I take response ability for somebody else? 00:37:00 Speaker 16: What should do is just take accountability and say, hey, yes, that was racist instead of saying no, that person, that officer wasn't racist. 00:37:08 Speaker 1: Hold on what you got to show me an instance, an example? But we're talking about such a micro problem that doesn't exist. Do you know that a black person is eighteen and a half times more likely to shoot and kill a police officer than a police officer is to go and shoot an unarmed black man. 00:37:23 Speaker 7: But is that the question that I asked you? 00:37:24 Speaker 1: No, No, you asked the hypothetical about if I'm going to take accountability for a racist police officer. So again, but do you don't understand if I inverted on you, would you take accountability for all the blacks killing police in America? 00:37:36 Speaker 7: That was funny? 00:37:37 Speaker 12: No? 00:37:37 Speaker 1: Would you? No? Why don't you take accountability for all the blacks killing police in New York? 00:37:41 Speaker 16: And I wouldn't take accountability for it. But what I would say is, yes, there are a lot of black people in my community who do dumb things to other black people and to other white people. What I would not do is just pretend that it doesn't happen, so that, like I said, you as a white man, has to do the same thing. 00:38:01 Speaker 1: I acknowledge it happens. I also acknowledge striking you when you're outside it. But let me ask you, who is Tony Tempa. 00:38:10 Speaker 6: That's all I wanted you. 00:38:11 Speaker 7: That's all I wanted you to do. 00:38:13 Speaker 1: Thank you. 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Charlie for Hillsdale dot com. Learn deeply, think clearly, lead boldly, carry it forward. 00:40:01 Speaker 1: Hello, how are you okay? 00:40:06 Speaker 3: Oh? 00:40:07 Speaker 17: I would like to say thank you for coming to UNC Charlotte. I do have a question about you about cannabis. You probably don't get many questions about cannabis, so I would like to ask you about your stance of canvas and then follow up with a question. 00:40:24 Speaker 1: Probably in the past, overly policed but should not be legalized? 00:40:27 Speaker 17: Should not be legalized? 00:40:28 Speaker 13: And is it? 00:40:30 Speaker 17: What is the reasons why you don't believe or you believe it should stay illegal? 00:40:36 Speaker 1: You know, we have an overwhelming amount of data to show when it's legalized, states get more dangerous, It gets messier, more homelessness, more vagrancy, more overdoses, more kids going on drugs, more heroin overdoses. It is a gateway drug. Regardless of what people say. It's laced with chemicals, with fentanyl, with hallucinogenics. Colorado went from the tenth in carjackings to first, and karjackings, fourth and arson to the first, and arson, third in rape to the second in rape. I mean I could go through every statistic. Every state that has legalized weed has seen more crime, more vagrancy, more dropouts, more kids on the social outcast of society. 00:41:08 Speaker 17: Would you say that when you legalize marijuana, you can see the lab task, you can see all the toxic chemicals inside of the cannabis plant. You can see how much THHG is in there, how much CBD, what terpenes that has limiting, pining, mercing, there's lots of there's a lot of cannabinoids inside. 00:41:31 Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's actually good. 00:41:33 Speaker 17: It's actually quite unique because there are different strains with different types of benefits. Some people take it recreationally, some people take it for medical purposes. So why not we legalize it so it's safer for our community, so people know what they're consuming. 00:41:52 Speaker 10: And also that also we. 00:41:55 Speaker 17: Take marijuana off of the schedule. 00:41:58 Speaker 1: Well, the drug, Yes, to make it federally legal. Let me ask you this, So you say, why not? Can you give me an example of any state that has legalized weed and it's gotten safer. 00:42:10 Speaker 17: And it's gotten safer. So my knowledge is basically based on not necessarily my question is not basically about a weather about that statistics. 00:42:23 Speaker 1: But but it's safer, I mean that would be probably critical. 00:42:26 Speaker 17: Well, it's safer in terms of consumption, in terms of what you're consuming, if it has if it has toxic chemicals with. 00:42:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, but guess what, you know, people still buy illegal weed despite the fact there's weed dispensaries on the corner in Vegas and in Denver. You don't get rid of the illegal drug market. You only enhance them to go to harder drugs and things they can't get in the store itself. There's more drug use in America than ever before, and we've legalized more drugs than ever before. It's been the great failure of the drug project the last ten years. Every promise they've made is wrong. Oh it's gonna it's gonna weaken the cartels. No, it's not there stronger than ever. Oh, we're gonna got all this drug revenue, not really there's more, there's more need for revenue because of the services that we can't even facilitate because of all the drugs, or how about this one, they're like, oh, yeah, it's better because kids are passing drugs in school. Yeah, now they're passing fentanyl in school. No longer weed in school. And so not only that, the crime, the vagrancy, the homelessness, the defecation everywhere it's legalized has gotten more dangerous periods. So why would you want to bring that to our communities? 00:43:24 Speaker 17: So it's not this, So that's that's not what I'm asking. That's that's not what I was basically talking about here. What I'm talking about is basically the consumption of the safetiness about of people who consume cannabis. And also there there are many many lots of good benefits too, in terms of a lot, there are a lot of good terpenes, in terms of lemonine, also pining. 00:43:50 Speaker 1: Uh, actually the last time you did weed? Man? 00:43:54 Speaker 17: Huh? 00:43:54 Speaker 1: When was the last time you did weed? 00:43:57 Speaker 17: Well, I may not answer that question. 00:44:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think rather recently. 00:44:04 Speaker 17: Hey, hey, but we still respect each other. 00:44:07 Speaker 1: We do, and thank you for being a walking commercial to not do drugs. Thanks for being here to us. 00:44:15 Speaker 17: Don't do hard drug. 00:44:21 Speaker 1: I know you were all thinking it too. As he was asking the question, I could feel. 00:44:24 Speaker 18: It all right, Well, shutly, it's an honor to be speaking with you, your great inspiration of mine. 00:44:31 Speaker 7: I would love to be in your field one day. 00:44:33 Speaker 18: Kind of doing what you do as well as the other guy that was talking about one in full office. I think that one thing that makes it very difficult a lot of times is that we live in a society that doesn't promote doing things differently, like you didn't go to college and you know you're a very adamant against the college scam, but as well as different aspects as we live in a world that is just very aggressive towards a lot of those different things. And like for me as a high schoo with a lot of steps I take, you know, get in that field, whether it be going to council meetings or you in a podcast, different. 00:45:07 Speaker 7: Things like that. 00:45:08 Speaker 18: What would you say that whether it be a piece of literat y'all, or maybe social networking cues to pick up on that would really enhance, maybe not enhance, but help you kind of beat that system. 00:45:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, So look, your talk about how to get into politics basically right in some ways, yes, socially. Here's the cool thing about politics. It's a meritocracy. You show up early, you stay late, You're gonna get rewarded. And I know there's some people running for office here tonight. Glad you guys are here. They're always looking for volunteers. They're always looking for people to help them. They're looking for people to show up early on Saturday to go knock on doors. Be eager and willing, do not be above any job. So the kind of overgeneralized story of Turning Point USA doesn't mention that, you know, in high school, I knocked one hundred thousand doors for some candidates in Illinois. That's you got to cut your teeth doing that. Right. You got to knock on doors, You've got to make phone calls. You got to get in the grassroots in politics. The cool thing is no one carries you went to school, No one cares your degrees, No one cares about that stuff. They care about how much work you've put in. That's the best advice I could give you. You will move up so quickly in politics if you get early, get in early, stay late, and don't complain those three things, get in early, stay late, and don't complain. That's the best piece of advice I have for you. Thank you, and if you disagree, you guys can get preference. I know our wonderful staff is helping out. Hello. How are you hi? 00:46:25 Speaker 10: Good evening. 00:46:26 Speaker 19: First of all, thank you for saying yes to the call that God is placed in your life. 00:46:31 Speaker 10: Okay. 00:46:32 Speaker 19: Two, congratulations to your beautiful bundle of joy. Savor every moment because it flies. 00:46:41 Speaker 10: Okay. 00:46:43 Speaker 19: I have a direct quote from Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. That is a direct quote. So my question is knowing that abortion takes the lives of babies of all colors and ethnic backgrounds, but understanding is the black genocide of today? Hands down, what have you discovered to be the most effective or creative way to combat the lives regarding this genocidal agenda? 00:47:24 Speaker 1: I like you, She's great. It is black genocide, and thank you for saying that out loud. I say that in the media loses their mind, but it disproportionally impacts the black community. Life is beautiful and life begins at conception, and we are seeing disproportion on abortion clinics, planned parent clinics, and the founder was a eugenicist. Period the founder of Planned Parenthood was a eugenicist. Now are the current leaders of it eugenicists? We don't know. But if you were trying to exterminate the black population, how would you do things any different what Planned Parenthood is doing right now? So how do we go back against it? We got to play offense. We got to explain the pro life issue. We have to talk about why life is beautiful, and honestly, we also got to step up those of us that are Christians and Conservatives with the resources, the charities, the services to make sure that we get rid of the myth of unwanted children. There is not an unwanted child in America. We just need to make sure people that are in crisis, that are pregnant are able to find adoption services, find the services necessary. That's the way I lead on it. But honestly, I yield back to Malcolm X, who number one did call it a black genocide. And I don't agree with Malcolm X and everything, but you know what else, you know who he blamed the white liberal, and he was right. This is a tyranny of the white liberal going after the black community. Let me just kind of ask you a question in closing here, what is your message to white liberals out there that are trying to push this in the black community. 00:48:50 Speaker 7: That I'm sorry. 00:48:55 Speaker 19: That if you don't do the research, and if you don't understand, then shut up. Do the research now, I'm serious, Do the work, Do the work. 00:49:07 Speaker 10: Understand. 00:49:08 Speaker 19: Why that over? I think it's eighty eight percent of planned parenthoods are strategically placed in black and minority neighborhoods. Why less, reverse engineer? Why is it like in the state of New York there are more black babies being murdered in the womb than are alive. So the worst of Marcus Singer has turned out to be prophetic. And also, the abortion agenda is a multi billion dollar industry. There is money in dead baby parts. You can find it. It was found in food, cosmetics everywhere. So this is the facts, this is the truth. 00:49:53 Speaker 1: Give it up for her, that's great, Give it up for her. 00:50:13 Speaker 7: Evening, My question is who killed doctor King? 00:50:19 Speaker 1: Doctor King name escapes me, the name, the name escapes me. Yeah, but I believe it. I mean, yeah, the name escapes me. 00:50:27 Speaker 7: Okay, So would you say it could be the FBI could be would you say that it is the FBI? 00:50:35 Speaker 1: Not definitively, but I certainly don't trust the FBI after recent years, so I'm open minded. 00:50:41 Speaker 7: Mm hmm. Okay. So unother point you made earlier, what do you think about separation of. 00:50:47 Speaker 1: Churchian state doesn't exist? It shouldn't exist, shouldn't exist. 00:50:52 Speaker 7: Yeah, so you should have church in the state. 00:50:54 Speaker 1: Well, first, where in the Constitution does it say that we. 00:50:56 Speaker 7: Can endment where it's about the vigion? Right, so there's no option of revision. 00:51:02 Speaker 1: There's no he doesn't say that. It says Congress shall make no law establishing religion or prohibiting the exercise thereof. Where does it say church and state. 00:51:13 Speaker 7: Religion? 00:51:14 Speaker 1: Well, hold on, it says that Congress shall make no official religion or prohibiting the exercise thereof. Where does it say that the church can't get involved in the state. 00:51:22 Speaker 7: It could be involved, but it can't be their religion established. 00:51:25 Speaker 1: Hold On, We're talking about two different things then, right, See. 00:51:28 Speaker 7: Like, because what you're saying is that, oh, you can be a Christian be in the government. That's true. That's how we're true. Now, you could be Christian be in a government, right, but you cannot establish Christianity as the basis of. 00:51:36 Speaker 1: Well, no, that's not what I'm arguing. I'm arguing that christian should be in the government, the church would be actively involved. Where do we get that phrase separation of church and state. 00:51:43 Speaker 7: From the versment? 00:51:45 Speaker 1: No, we don't know. It's Thomas Jefferson ride into the Danburry Baptist convention in Massachusetts assuring them that the church would not come after the states. So let me ask you a question. Let's pretend that church and state is the law of the land, right that the war In court and the Burger Court argued in the nineteen fifties and nine eighteen sixties. Then why on earth did we put up with the government going around and shutting down churches during the pandemic. I thought, we need separation of church and state. Why is it that the government can go and shut down churches? Okay, so they aren't they supposed to be separate. 00:52:14 Speaker 7: I actually played for a church. I play drum set right, so I would go to church, and uh, they're not churches because of you know, COVID. You're saying that, oh, it's unsafe to be in input. 00:52:24 Speaker 1: They shouldn't have the right to do it, because I thought they were supposed to be separate, right. 00:52:29 Speaker 7: I mean for general safety. I mean if you want people dying, then oh. 00:52:33 Speaker 1: So you could shut them down for safety. So it's not separate. It's like we can come in for whatever reason we deem necessary, restrict to your religion. 00:52:40 Speaker 7: Not restricting you can practice from on camera. We we played like do live stream and like online. 00:52:45 Speaker 1: Yet so watching church on a live stream is like watching a fireplace on TV. You could see everything with no war. 00:52:51 Speaker 7: Okay, But if God is real all the time and you can't go to church because of a disease going around, what. 00:52:56 Speaker 1: Does it say in the Bible about do not forsake the gave of believers where two or more are gathered in my name? 00:53:04 Speaker 7: Okay? 00:53:04 Speaker 20: So what do you say about conception perception or when it's a sorry life begin at conception? Of course, I thought at first breath, No, actually doesn't say that. 00:53:14 Speaker 1: So it's the verse. Well, hold on, First of all, it says I knew you before you were in the womb. Yeah, and what you are doing is paraphrasing what you consider to be EXNIHI lo out of nothing made in the image of God, the breath of God with actually where life begins. The question would be, was John the Baptist a baby when he when he left in Elizabeth's womb? 00:53:34 Speaker 2: Was he? 00:53:35 Speaker 1: Are you a Christian? 00:53:37 Speaker 12: Me? 00:53:37 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:53:38 Speaker 7: Am I? 00:53:39 Speaker 1: You played drums at a church, so I hope you're a Christian? But yours the points like, no, No, I'm actually not missing it. 00:53:47 Speaker 7: I asked you. The verse that says that it begins at conception. 00:53:52 Speaker 1: Right, so I knew you before you were in the womb is one of many verses of which it reinforces that you should protect life in the womb. 00:53:59 Speaker 7: But you're we're doing it's interpreting, right, So I want you to tell me where I'm reading. It begins that how you're reading. There's no book. 00:54:06 Speaker 1: There's no book. I've memorized scripture. You should try it. 00:54:10 Speaker 7: So you're reading it in your brain brain? 00:54:11 Speaker 1: Now, well, no, And Jeremiah says very clearly, I knew you before you were in the womb. Ye. 00:54:16 Speaker 7: So when it says in the Bible that's what begins at first. 00:54:19 Speaker 1: Breath, no, it doesn't say that it doesn't. 00:54:22 Speaker 7: What does it say. 00:54:23 Speaker 1: You're misquoting it very clearly. Psalm one thirty nine, thirteen through sixteen. For you formed my inward parts. It says you wove me in my mother's womb. It says, I will give thanks to you for I'm fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works, And my soul knows it very well. Fearfully wonderfully made and my inward works. That sounds like a baby in the womb, doesn't it? 00:54:48 Speaker 7: You will a fetus in the womb, A. 00:54:50 Speaker 1: Fetus in the womb? 00:54:51 Speaker 7: Yeah? 00:54:52 Speaker 1: What species is that fetus? 00:54:53 Speaker 7: A fetus species? 00:54:57 Speaker 1: What species is that fetus? 00:55:00 Speaker 7: Human? 00:55:00 Speaker 1: So it would be a human life, it would be eventually. Oh but when does it become a human life? 00:55:06 Speaker 7: Then when it's born, when it breathes. 00:55:08 Speaker 1: Oh? Really, So that a twenty six week old premi baby that is saved because of a cesarean section isn't a baby until it comes out of the womb. 00:55:16 Speaker 7: I mean, if it's born, it's born. 00:55:18 Speaker 1: So you believe that we should be able to terminate a pregnancy up until the moment of birth? Do I say that I'm asking? 00:55:25 Speaker 7: No? 00:55:26 Speaker 1: Okay, So then what restriction abortion, would. 00:55:27 Speaker 7: You give Well, if the woman who is giving birth is going to. 00:55:30 Speaker 1: Die, which never happens, which never happens, that's right. So it's a mythology that women will die if they have a baby, that's right. They could talk to entire communities of obs. You know why, because if cesarean option is entertained, then you could save both the mother and the baby. Instead, the abortion industry lies to the mother and they say that you must terminate the baby to save the mother's life. So you could talk to hundreds of Christian obees and non Christian obees and they will tell you that is a mythology of the abortion industry. 00:56:00 Speaker 7: Hmmm, No, that's that's that's funny. No, it's actually wait funny, No, no, no, I'm saying you the way you represent facts like wildingly and knowingly. I'm sorry, the way you like you knowingly like serves in facts. You say, Oh, okay, abortion, Oh it's terrible because oh, you can't possibly say the baby and you can't possibly say the mother. Ti time that it happens the ten year old in Ohio. 00:56:21 Speaker 1: Right, Yes, a cesarean section could have saved the baby's life and the mother's life. Do you know what a cesarean section is? 00:56:26 Speaker 7: Do you? 00:56:27 Speaker 1: Yes? My wife had one? 00:56:28 Speaker 7: Okay, good to you. I'm saying, when the. 00:56:34 Speaker 1: Baby, right, So do you know what a cesarian section is or not? 00:56:37 Speaker 7: I don't know. 00:56:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I would. Here's a little word to the whys. Let's quit while you're ahead. A cesarean section is a medical intervention that saves tens of thousands of lives every single year of a small slit done at the bot at the top of a woman's pelvis. Yeah, cesarean section. That's a sea section abbreviated all right, So maybe that's that's where we get the term sea section from. So guess what if every woman that's lied to by planned parenthood was given a sea section instead of an abortion, So then all of a sudden, abortion would not be necessary to resave their life, every single one of them. If you talk to hundreds of OB's across the country, they will say medical necessary abortion is a lie. End of story. 00:57:16 Speaker 7: Right, And you're pregnant, right, your tingers old pregnant? Okay, so you really can't give birth through your. 00:57:23 Speaker 1: W you can't get so you do a sea section? How you cut them open? And you lift the baby up and everyone lives. 00:57:30 Speaker 7: How does the baby survive? 00:57:32 Speaker 1: Hopefully through a work of God? And also medical technology that is the most common surgery in America. So I'll kind of close with this and then we'll get to the next question because we're running low on time. When does life begin at first breath? At first breath that moral standard of first breath, would therefore believe that you could have abortion up until the life, up until the moment of birth, life begins at conception. I'm going to say this as nicely as I possibly can. You're a drummer at a church. You should probably reconsider that because you are advocating for the most terrific and brutal, eugenic, non Christian abortion policies that I could possibly imagine. I hope you prayerfully reconsider and repent. Thank you for being here tonight. 00:58:17 Speaker 5: If you could go back in time and buy oil before the world relied on it, would you? Of course you would? Anybody would, So why aren't you buying silver right now? The people who recognized oil early didn't just make money, They got ahead of one of the biggest economic shifts in history, and today a similar opportunity is unfolding with silver. Silver is more than a precious metal. 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They lost four or five four It's so tragic. I love how they never win and I'm sharing for I love Josh Allen. He's amazing. He loves playing the sport. They're my favorite team. I have nothing to do with. 00:59:42 Speaker 12: So I assume that you know about the trans woman in the girls' locker room in Vermont, and so I, of course like disagree with that completely. And I don't believe we should accommodate for trans people, but for the safety of actual women and to avoid another situation like what happened in Virginia twice this year and last year, UH with a boy who decided that he wanted to put on a skirt and go into the girl's restroom and decided to rape an actual girl. Do you believe that we should make a trans locker room. 01:00:16 Speaker 17: For people with this issue? 01:00:18 Speaker 1: No, we should not accommodate our society based on somebody's mental delusion or illness. I hope they get treatment. I hope they get compassionate treatment, which is not gender affirming care. Psychologists should not affirm your delusion. They should challenge you with love back into alignment of how God made you. And so, what is the solution If you're a man who thinks you're a woman, go in the men's locker room, Go wear a dress in the men's locker room. Why do we need to accommodate you and put you in a locker room, or you're choosing answer, because we completely inverted our morality to give a platform to people that claim their oppressive and in reality they aren't. And we should not reconfigure society based on groups that say that, oh feel so sorry for because I'm a victimy. Actually, that's not the way that we should do things. Instead, you get a lot of other people having to reaccommodate their language, their speech, and their privacy and the protection of our women for some sort of fringe mental illness that unfortunately is plague in our country. Thank you, hi, Charlie. Oh wait, hi Charlie. 01:01:15 Speaker 21: So you mentioned earlier that you wanted to meet in an anti war leftist, a genuine one. 01:01:19 Speaker 1: Well you've got one saying right in front of you, Chrace god Man, thanks for being here. 01:01:21 Speaker 21: So pretty much every US president for the past twenty years has disappointed the living hell out of him when it comes to foreign policy. George Bush with the two thousand and three invasion of Iraq, Barack Obama with that barbaric drone program, and frankly Donald Trump's was not too much better. And now Joe Biden, and I don't like the foreign and sixty billion dollars of weapons he sold the Saudi Arabia. 01:01:41 Speaker 1: That's fair, but come on, I mean Trump, at least, let's let's go through Trump. I mean, come on now, listen, listen. He didn't start World War three, like CNN knows. I acknowledge that. Okay, Well, I'm someway, all right. 01:01:50 Speaker 21: I'm just saying, I'm I'm not going to pretend that he's this, you know, passive, that he's the all time pacifist, because I don't. 01:01:57 Speaker 1: See, well, I don't think he was an all time pacifist, but at least agree he was the greatest challenge to the American foreign policy neo conservative regime in a generation. 01:02:06 Speaker 21: I don't see it as that different from Barack Obama's. The drone strikes, the intervention. 01:02:09 Speaker 1: Okay, let's go through it then. Okay. So, so Trump was given a choice whether or not to escalate in Afghanistan or to draw down. He was drawn down correctly, and he went against every one of his generals. They intervened. 01:02:19 Speaker 21: The numbers actually fluctuated throughout his presidency. 01:02:23 Speaker 1: They didn't go, but there was a withdrawal plan admittedly he didn't go through with it. 01:02:26 Speaker 21: Yeah, because he didn't get re elected. And don't get me wrong, I'm not exactly part of it. Yeah, yeah, I'm not a big fan of Joe Biden's withdrawal plan in my opinion. So that was a catastrophe as an insult to every troops should have been the last ones to leave. They should have kept a barrier between the Talman and Cobble. That that was pretty It's also like you got to remove a kidney. You don't take a pocket knife and just start you know that. That was basically all our withdrawal mechanically. But what I really but hold on, let's. 01:02:48 Speaker 1: Go through the Trump thing. I think I might be able to win you over on this. 01:02:50 Speaker 7: Okay. 01:02:50 Speaker 1: He's the only president to be able to administer peace between Israel and Arab partners. That's a good thing. Yeah, it's a good thing. 01:02:56 Speaker 13: Right. 01:02:56 Speaker 1: He was Also he rejected calls and clamor to esc late with Iran that very well could have been even worse than the Ukrainian Ukrainian Ukrainian escalation. He met with Putin to try to de escalate tensions with Russia. I mean, con you got to give some acknowledgment the. 01:03:11 Speaker 21: Iran thing actually with sole money. I don't think that was a de escalation. I don't think the president of the United States can basically grow in a general that Congress that we have not declared war on. 01:03:21 Speaker 1: That's actually probably a fair point. But I would disagree in this. I agree on the congressional part. I disagree on that that I think he has universal power. 01:03:28 Speaker 21: I think that I think that dropping bombs on generals that are actually fighting ices and Serrea, I think that's a bad idea. 01:03:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're a little more compliment It Sole money killed a bunch of Americans. I mean, yes, it's not more complicate than that. 01:03:37 Speaker 21: But all right, But here's the thing, though, was it worth potentially risking a war that would kill more? 01:03:41 Speaker 1: It didn't, so, but what if it did? Though we know it's a hypothetical that resulted in actually de escalate attentions. But here's what I think I will agree with you on is that the Ukrainian thing. Let's focus on that, right, what's going on with Ukraine is insane. We should all agree with that. It is wrong to send seventy five billion dollars to a proxy war that we might end up having to fight a nuclear empower. You agree with that, right? Yeah? 01:04:00 Speaker 10: Absolutely? 01:04:01 Speaker 21: And this country, our schools are trash, our infrastructure is trash. Amory trillion dollars in debt. We're sending forty billion dollars a disease. 01:04:07 Speaker 1: That's insane. Let me ask you a question, and I agree with you and we should applaud that. Let me ask you a question, though, why is it that you have to come to a conservative event to be applauded for that? Where is that on the left right now? I don't see it, do you? Not? As much as I would like to, I'll admit that to you. Why do you think that is? 01:04:20 Speaker 21: Truthfully, I'm not really sure. I've just been I've just bogged down in school. Honestly, A change. 01:04:24 Speaker 1: Major good answer, So yeah, I mean, honestly everyone can follow this stuff of obsessively as I do. Here's the answer I have, though, is because neoliberalism has taken over the American left. And the only place I'm going to ask you and think about this for the coming months and years, the only place left for critical like discussion on the international American empire, which should not exist, is here on the American right. We want to gree on everything, but I think there's going to be oxygen the room because the Democrat Party and the American Left has unfortunately become just this war clamoring machine. Thanks for being here tonight. Appreciate you, O, thank you. 01:04:58 Speaker 10: All right. 01:05:00 Speaker 22: My name is James Triday. I am first of all, I want to completely second everything. My sisters just said that was really good and then no, no no, no, no. 01:05:09 Speaker 7: No no no, like I was. 01:05:10 Speaker 22: It's a bigorer speech the black girl that was up here. So I have an advice question and a request in a request. So the first one is do you have any advice about medical school in all school? Like I want to do that, and so which one to go to because it's really terrible at the University of Michigan. 01:05:28 Speaker 1: And bad out there. Liberty University has a pretty good program. 01:05:32 Speaker 7: I heard about that. 01:05:33 Speaker 1: Yale No no, no, oh, yeah, no, they do that. I'm sorry they said Yale I Mishard. Yes, but Liberty has a better one, uh than most schools. And they're not woke. They're really strong and conservative and and they do a great job. You should give it up. Liberty does a nice job. So but the list is very very minimal. Even Baylor has gone totally off the rails. 01:05:52 Speaker 22: Unfortunate, but could you know the first one I had law? 01:05:57 Speaker 1: But Baylor is not the worst. Just if you want to medical school, don't go to Michigan. I mean, I love our Michigan fans out there. They're great people, but they've gone so off the rails. Woke unfortunately. Here's the big thing. Get involved in your Turning Point group, state, get a good church community, get through it as quickly as possible. I think you're gonna make a great lawyer or doctor. Whatever you end up. It good for you. Man, that's awesome. And you gotta ask really quick. We gotta keep going, ye ye, yeah, yeah. We'll take a couple more. 01:06:22 Speaker 10: But can be in your show? 01:06:24 Speaker 1: Can I be on my show? 01:06:26 Speaker 13: Well? 01:06:26 Speaker 1: You already are because you're near right now. Possibly, Okay, we'll talk, all right, thank you? All right, a couple more. 01:06:36 Speaker 13: I'm a student here at Y Charlotte and I just had a question. You've claimed to support free speech and write to assembly, then why was Brandy Love kicked out of a Turning Point USA event in Tampa, Florida in July of twenty twenty one. 01:06:48 Speaker 1: So Brandy Love is a pornography actress, and we have miners at our event, and I will defend to anybody in any venue or forum not allowing people that spread or participate in pornograph to be co mingling or socializing around miners. 01:07:03 Speaker 13: Well, well, the clothes that Brandy was wearing and the and the conversation she was having had nothing to do with. 01:07:15 Speaker 1: I don't care if you participate in pornography, you're not gonna be around young children. I'm not going to endorse that as an organizer. I'm not going to act like that's normal and that it's okay. If you engage in something that so many young men struggle with, that are addicted to, that are destroying marriages, I consider you to be a wilful participant in a parasitic force in America, and that does not have a place at a turning point USA event. I disagree. 01:07:42 Speaker 7: But thank you so much for your time. 01:07:43 Speaker 13: Thank you so much. 01:07:43 Speaker 1: Thanks appreciate it. All Right, the last question, I'll try to keep a spicy for you all. It's up Charles Man. 01:07:52 Speaker 23: You're on record for Stateton and I quote this is the gayest generation of America. 01:07:56 Speaker 1: What are your overall. 01:07:57 Speaker 23: Thoughts on this because some of your opponents seem to believe you have homosex tendencies. 01:08:03 Speaker 1: Well, it is the gayest generation ever. Every fact shows that more young people are gay than any other generation. So is there something you like to tell me or do you want to just read off a phone and parros? 01:08:13 Speaker 23: I mean, I mean I wrote down that question obviously, because yeah it was a quote, So I mean, I didn't want to mess it up and you come for me or anything like that. So, like I said, man, what are your overall thoughts on that? 01:08:22 Speaker 1: And my thoughts? Yeah, yeah, I think my record of my marriage speaks for itself. But is there something you want to tell us about your own? 01:08:28 Speaker 23: I mean, you don't got to You don't got to accuse me of being gay just because you're married, don't mean that you're not homosexual. 01:08:32 Speaker 1: Well, you came up here asking about the gayest generation. I got some questions about you, man, And I. 01:08:36 Speaker 23: Mean, I mean, you're you're coming, you're coming to you're coming to my campus that I represent, calling us, you know, one of the gayest generations it is in America. 01:08:45 Speaker 1: And even though even though I don't the gayest generation ever. Congrats man, congrats no, it's not a good thing. Actually, okay, all. 01:08:53 Speaker 23: Right, Well, I mean my point is you're coming to our campus, you know, obviously saying that. 01:08:57 Speaker 1: And I didn't say it. You repeated it, but I'm happy you didn't. You did say it, you did quote it. No, not early in my speech, but I'm happy to rewin. Yeah, yeah, not your speech. Yeah, it is the gayest generation in American history. It's a fact. Do you disagree with that? 01:09:10 Speaker 23: No, I don't disagree with that because I feel like we've been what's the question here? 01:09:15 Speaker 1: My question was just what are your overall thoughts on the quote? And you know my thought, I defend the quote. 01:09:19 Speaker 7: Okay, cool, cool. 01:09:20 Speaker 1: I appreciate your time, man, Yeah, yeah, thanks saying. Internet's gonna love that one. Yeah, you'll be real famous in about twenty five minutes, dude. Yeah. 01:09:35 Speaker 6: Hey, So I just wanted to, like, I disagree with you on your position on the Ukraine. So I think I believe that we should do do everything we can to help Ukraine. Now, you say that we're sending billions of dollars the Ukraine, but actually the billion that's the valuation of the equipment we're sending to Ukraine. So we're actually sending money. 01:09:57 Speaker 1: Well, right, we sent We've appropriated seventy five billion dollars for bu to buy bullets and weapons and missiles and then send them to Ukraine. 01:10:03 Speaker 3: How much? 01:10:04 Speaker 1: How much? 01:10:05 Speaker 6: I believe that's the equipment we already have. 01:10:07 Speaker 1: No, No, it's reappropriated dollars that otherwise would be used in other combat theaters or other deployments other areas that are then being sent has come from somewhere, right, so we already have it. It's getting you have to replenish it eventually. But let me ask you how much money would be too much money to spend in Ukraine. 01:10:24 Speaker 6: I don't I don't think there's too much money. I mean, Ukraine is fighting for their freedom. 01:10:29 Speaker 1: So how about two trillion dollars? Is that too much? 01:10:34 Speaker 6: Well? Great, that's that's that's a big that's a that's a lot. But I believe I believe the money, the mount we're seeing it right now is adequate for them to win the war. 01:10:44 Speaker 1: Well, why is it our responsibility to help them win a war? 01:10:48 Speaker 6: Because because Ukraine was unprovoked and there they wanted to actually join the European Union. 01:10:56 Speaker 1: Okay, so under that then it's our moral guideline to do that? Why? But why is that on the American interest? With all the problems we here have domestically, We've been unprovoked, we had two million people cross into our country via in an invasion, and yet we're sending arms and missiles and training and equipment and troops and money to a country that most people can't find on a map five thousand miles away. That's not a US state. Why is that our concern? 01:11:23 Speaker 14: Well? 01:11:23 Speaker 6: I believe is the right thing to do. And the equipment we're not we're not is not doing it was not being used. 01:11:29 Speaker 1: What does success look like in Ukraine? 01:11:33 Speaker 6: All the territories returned to Ukraine. 01:11:35 Speaker 1: Then you're you're prepared for a fifty year war. 01:11:38 Speaker 6: I don't believe it would be the fifty year war. 01:11:40 Speaker 1: Does Eastern Ukraine want to be part of Ukraine or Russia? 01:11:44 Speaker 6: Well, I believe that eastern Ukraine. The inhabitants of Eastern Ukraine was was are originally Russian inhabitants. 01:11:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, they speak Russian and they love Putin. So why should we tell them to go be part of Ukraine when they want to be part of Russia? 01:11:58 Speaker 6: Well, why don't they move to your Russia instead of seceding from Ukraine. 01:12:02 Speaker 1: Well, because they liked their home, which used to be Russia, which is actually where Russia was founded, and they want to live in eastern Ukraine and call it Russia. Why are we telling them they have to be part of Ukraine? Who are we to say that? Why is that our concern? And if we get this wrong, we could slip and fall and end in a nuclear war. 01:12:19 Speaker 6: Well you can't, Well you can't capitulate too. We can't copitulate to another power if they're threatening nuclear work. How would you feel if like Canada said oh we're going to annexelth I mean. 01:12:31 Speaker 1: Use another example. The Canadians would never do that, so. 01:12:33 Speaker 6: Use all right, all right, well say China, okay, fine, they would annex Japan and they said, oh, let us do it, or we will nuke you. 01:12:43 Speaker 10: Is that fair? 01:12:44 Speaker 2: Is that? 01:12:44 Speaker 12: Well? 01:12:45 Speaker 1: First of all, Japan does want to be part of China. Eighty seven percent of Eastern Ukrainians vote regularly to be part of Russia. This is a very murky situation. Zelenski was not democratically elected. He was displaced in a color revolution by our central intelligence agency. And he's not very well liked in Ukraine. It's fifty to fifty. It's just true. And so look is putin the thug. Of course he is he shouldn't have invaded Ukraine. Why is that our concern? And dom ily ask you this, do you think we have more pressing things happening here domestically that we should probably be focusing on. 01:13:15 Speaker 6: Well, I believe we do have the I believe we could do the both simultaneously, Are we? 01:13:23 Speaker 10: I believe so? 01:13:24 Speaker 3: No? 01:13:24 Speaker 1: I don't think so, because so you say the territory and integrity of Ukraine. What gets me fired up is that our elected representatives are screaming from the rooftops about Ukraine Ukraine. I don't see them appropriating even a billion five billion for a southern border wall, but they're really quick to go make sure Ukraine is their bullets to go fight a war that honestly Russia's gonna end up winning. 01:13:43 Speaker 6: So you believe you believe we're being invaded by next in immigrants, but. 01:13:49 Speaker 1: By the Kartel, Yes, two million people a year. We are being invaded, yes, And they're not immigrants. They're border jumpers, line cutters and foreign criminals that are coming into our country. Knowingly breaking their laws. 01:14:00 Speaker 6: This is different. They're not coming over here trying to annex or territory. The Russia is. That's what Russia is doing. 01:14:06 Speaker 3: Well. 01:14:07 Speaker 1: Many of them are coming with fentanyl, which kills ninety thousand people a year. They're sex trafficking young women anywhere between twenty to thirty thousand people a year. They're bringing they're bringing guns. They come here illegally. That's an invasion and that sounds like an annexation of a country. The point is this is that Ukraine might be the most noble effort ever. It isn't. I'm just gonna be honest. You'll learn that over time. You'll see they're unbelievably corrupt government. They're backwards their money Launders. They're criminals and they should have defend for themselves. Ukraine should not be part of NATO. They're not a NATO country. They shouldn't be. And to put us in that will make every single one of your lives be put in jeopard to go fight a war that we should not fight. This is what it is is that raytheon north of Grumman and Lockheed Martin, the war industry and the defense contractors are using this entire thing as a way to get us dangerously close to another proxy war while we care about a far distant conflict that looks nice on cable television, while our wages go down. Our kids are the most suicidal, depressed, alcohol addicted, drug addicted, psychiatric addicted, least educated, least socialized, least married, and least like it have children generation history. But I have to be lectured by my leaders that I have to go send money to Ukraine. Why does that make sense? 01:15:09 Speaker 6: Like I said, we can do both. I believe we can do both this, but we aren't. 01:15:12 Speaker 1: And that's the point. Our leaders better start looking inwardly and not distantly and foreignly. That's what pays the bills. I get that there's a lot of money laundered through there, but guess what, we're the ones that eventually they have to answer to. Ukraine is a lost cause. It's not worth our time, our energy, our attention. The people of Ukraine are the true victims. I wish them the best. I want our leaders to put us first and not the people or the regime of uk Thank you for being me. 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