Erika Kirk's Address to America + The Great Southern Gerrymander

00:00:03 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie kirk I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start at turning point, you would say, college chapter. Go start attning point, you say high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. 00:00:45 Speaker 2: Here I am Lord, Use me. 00:00:48 Speaker 1: Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of the Charlie Kirkshaw, a company that specializes in gold iras and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments dot Com. That is Noblegoldinvestments dot Com. 00:01:17 Speaker 3: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are here April thirtieth, twenty twenty six. 00:01:23 Speaker 4: How we doing, Blake, Oh, We're doing excellent. 00:01:25 Speaker 3: Great. We are here at the y Refit Studio. We took a little, you know, a different tack yesterday. It was a special Erica had a message that she wanted to deliver. I thought she did a great job. And then it was interesting for a lot of our real America's Voice audience. This was probably the first time that you had given the been given the opportunity to see in full, at least on these airwaves the prove me wrongs from Charlie and some of the clips of Charlie's interactions. And I thought it was a really poignant moment because you were able to see the and compare and contrast in real time the way that the current rhetoric is being approached often by our colleagues, our opponents, our foes. What do we our fellow citizens on the other side of the aisle versus how Charlie would approach it, and that contrasts couldn't be more glaring. Let's just be honest, Charlie was a guy that would say, come up to the front of the line if you disagree. If you disagree, come up to the front of line, ask your questions. That's what it was all about. It was about open discourse, open dialogue, debate, letting the differences be aired in public and see which idea was better, see who could get to the top. So that's different than Hey, I don't like you, I'm going to try and kill you. And unfortunately, that's what a lot of our public discourse has devolved into. And I thought Erica gave a poignant, poignant address and remarks, you know, after what happened to the White House Correspondence Center. I think a lot of us when we were in that room realized this is getting absolutely out of hand. I mean we've realized it on this show for at least months with what happened with Charlie. But when you see a room full of the most prominent journalists in the country be exposed to a violence like that, and to be exposed to just the raw energy, the violent, raw energy you could feel in the room as even the Secret Service, we're jumping over tables and climbing on chairs around your head as you're huddled underneath a table. I think it brings at home, and I think this is an opportunity for the country to sort of reassess where we're at. And it's an opportunity for all of us to reassess where we're at and realize we have to double and triple down our efforts to end the scourge of political violence in this country. And so I was really proud of Erica. I thought she did a great job, and she addressed some of the things saying, hey, listen, when you dehumanize people, that has a destination. When you believe that your political opponents are actual Nazis and fascists and tyrants, then yeah, I guess you could tie yourself into a not ideologically and justify murdering them. And that's what Cole Allen did. Now Cole Allen has been We just found out by the way they did a review of the Secret Service agent who was shot that was not friendly fire. It did in fact come from Cole Allen's gun. So he's going to be in some serious trouble. And then we have other breaking news that the attackers that went after Savannah Hernandez in Minneapolis, that the Ostrusko family. All three have been charged indicted federally. A grand jury returned three indictments, all indictments on all three, I should say, and so we're going to see justice pursued there. This is critically important and Blake, you feel free to chime in here on this. It's critically important that the people that attack people for their political views or their ideological views are held accountable in a very public way because if this is Strusco family would have gotten away with just a slap on the hand or a misdimeter charge in Minneapolis Hennepin County as we were expecting, then what's to stop them from doing it again? And what's to stop other people that are similarly bent and minded to do it to other journalists and other reporters. So this was a huge, huge, huge news story yesterday that we wish we could have got to go. 00:05:15 Speaker 4: As we've said, there has to be we've said before, there has to be zero tolerance for assassination culture, and downstream of that, you have to have let's call it muscular free speech enforcement, and that means that we have to set the norm that you resolve differences through argument, through debate and it's not acceptable to treat it as some sort of sport to attack a reporter. You don't like, to attack a speaker, you don't like to sucker punch these people, to cause mayhem for their events, to as we've seen on or pull a gun. But even just we've always seen these professors who will trash our tables, who will rip up their stuff. There has to be pretty low tolerance for that as well. You need a very strong We've warned about the Heckler's veto, Well, we need a veto of the Heckler's veto. 00:06:07 Speaker 3: Well, the assessed the assassin's veto. Yeah. Here's a clip from Erica yesterday, top thirty. It is uh, when you stop talking, bad things happen. That's when violence happens. Top thirty. 00:06:20 Speaker 5: When we stop talking to each other, bad things happen. This is why my husband created Turning Point USA so we could have civil discourse and debate and open dialogue. This is a moment for Americans to come together and decide what kind of country we are going to be before we lose our country altogether. In Romans, Chapter twelve, verse twenty one, it says do not be overcome by evil but overcome evil with good. 00:06:44 Speaker 3: Yep, the we will not be overcome by evil. We will overcome evil with good. That was what Charlie did. That's what we must continue doing. That's our call, is Christians, that we cannot let this country devolve into assesspool of violence and political assass We just simply can't. What kind of country would our children inherit and our grandchildren inherit if we let this happen? Now? So, I mean it was I think it was a poignant moment. We got a ton of emails from you guys in the audience. Blake has a few pulled up. 00:07:15 Speaker 4: Yeah, we just we had a lot of reactions. Some of it was I I a lot of people. It caught people off guard to do that. We haven't had air come on here too much. But so, for example, William said, Erica's interest to the show today was a statement that makes me proud. It is a message that Charlie would have said about the hate that we see today. We got one from Kara. God bless you, Erica, lift you and the kiddos and the Turning Point family in prayer every single day. And she says Charlie was big picture and this was big picture as well. There's not just one thing that can heal us. It takes everything above fitted together. And she really liked how when Erica threw it to the old Charlie stuthing buckle up here we go. We've got Colleen. I just got done watching the video of Erica on the Charlie kirkshow I cannot imagine the anguish and heartbreak that she is going through. It is so frustrating to see how she has to fight for her existence and grief. But she's been very brave, very true, and just a lot of appreciation for seeing a lot of the Charlie stuff, which I think is worth us pausing. We've seen it, we've run it as special episodes, but a lot of people out there who watch primarily through RAV they don't necessarily see lots and lots of Charlie debating on campus clips and stuff, and so it was good that we were able to show that, and we encourage all of you who like it and who do watch this primarily through RAV. We continue to have Charlie debate greatest hits released as podcast episodes on the weekend. We just had one of him debating pro life issues. We've had him debating border issues. We encourage you to check those out because Charlie's message is still out there and people need to hear it totally. 00:08:57 Speaker 3: And we went to a lot of effort to make sure that all those episodes up now, and so they check them out, please take advantage of that. I want to play just it's a quick ten seconds of Charlie just welcoming people who disagree. And this is the essence of turning point. This is Charlie's legacy. It's one we can't forget. It's one that needs to be pumped into the bloodstream of this country. S twenty eight. 00:09:18 Speaker 1: Guys are welcome to ask anything, open mic, disagreement, most welcome. You disagree, come to the front of the line. You disagree, comes to the front of the line. If you disagree, go to the front of the line. You guys know how it works. You disagree, go to the line. We'll have a great conversation. 00:09:30 Speaker 3: Amen. Miss him every day. There's a couple of clips that I think really just make it pop, bring it to life about the way that the media treats left wing criminals and the way that they treat what happens when conservatives get attacked or god forbid, killed. So I'm going to start where this show really should start, and that's with Tyler Robinson, the man who is standing trial for the assassination of our friend Charlie. And I want to take you back to how an ABC reporter described a blood thirsty murderer's text to his lover, his trans identifying gay for a lover, I guess it's not a furry. 00:10:13 Speaker 2: Oh. 00:10:15 Speaker 6: It was very touching in a way that I think many of us didn't expect, a very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate, who was transitioning, calling him my love and I want to protect. 00:10:31 Speaker 2: You, my love. 00:10:32 Speaker 6: So it was this duality of someone who, the attorney said, not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances of this case. And on the other hand, he was speaking so lovingly about his partner. So a very interesting and as Pierre said, riveting press conference. 00:10:50 Speaker 3: David, that's really sick touching portrait who jeopardized the life of No, he didn't jeopardize He Stolear's life. He murdered him in cold blood. But that's the way that they do it. Do you see that, like compound this clip hundreds and hundreds of times over across the population set, and do you see how this like little propaganda starts playing on the minds of Americans and how you start sympathizing with the violent criminals that are killing people. Or how about this one. Remember Arena Zarutzka who was viciously stabbed in the neck while just trying to get home after work at a pizza parlor. She was a Ukrainian refugee who survived the war in Ukraine only to get killed brutally by a multiple convicted felon that was somehow walking the streets that never should have been there. Released by Week on Crime Democrat Policies, SOT twenty four. 00:11:52 Speaker 7: When you are mentally ill, you have a hard time knowing that you are mentally ill. But also, I mean people like Charlie kirk Fan they've been looking for opportunities to make this some sort of like reciprocal George Floyd situation. 00:12:06 Speaker 8: We don't know why that man did what he did, and for Charlie Kirk to say we know he did it because she's white, when there's no evidence of that. 00:12:13 Speaker 4: It's just pure race. 00:12:16 Speaker 8: Mongering, hate mongering. 00:12:17 Speaker 2: It's wrong. 00:12:18 Speaker 8: Then he says that if something like that had happened the other way, there would be sweeping changes imposed on society. We don't know how to deal with people who were hurting in the way this man was hurting. 00:12:29 Speaker 3: Hurt people, hurt people. 00:12:30 Speaker 8: What happened was horrible, but it becomes an opportunity for people to jump on bandwagons. And then for someone like Charlie Kirk, he should be ashamed of himself. No one mentioned the word race, white, black, or anything except him. 00:12:42 Speaker 4: Oh, hurt people, hurt people. That's how they summed up. Lunatic stabbing a woman in the throat for no reason, completely unprovoked, a crime we've seen over and over and over again in the country. 00:12:56 Speaker 3: Crime for the criminals is obscene, a. 00:12:57 Speaker 4: Crime that happens sadly, teenly we've seen. If you want other proof that they love criminals, just what is it? Every other week on this show, we have to cover a new illegal immigrant led into this country under Biden. Immediately allowed to come here as an asylum claimy, and they murder a random person never should have been here. Obviously a bad news. They were allowed in because on a fundamental level, when the left sees criminals and they see normal people, their sympathy goes to that criminal. I guess they have an easier time envisioning themselves as that criminal than as the normal person who'd be their victim. 00:13:34 Speaker 3: Listen, sympathy for the criminals is cruelty to the victims. 00:13:37 Speaker 4: And I think we should hit another theme of what Erica said yesterday, that so much of what the press does to whip people up, to whip their own base up, to whip people like that teacher who wanted to kill the president up, or frankly like Tyler Robinson. Because a lot of those trans shooters that we've seen, they're whipped up by this idea that there is an impending genocide of trans people going on, that there's some that they're facing annihilation. They're whipped up by a press that uses that kind of rhetoric. And as she pointed out, she was at she just she tweeted this last night. I'll read it. Many of the left thing journalists that attended the White House Correspondent's Dinner have spent years consistently calling President Trump a Nazi, a threat to democracy, and Hitler, and then they joyfully attended that evening's event. If they truly believe their own rhetoric, then they are either joyfully and willingly having dinner with Hitler, or they are lying to radicalize American citizens with narratives they know are grossly exaggerated, and we know it's it's basically it's the second point that deep down they know their stuff is hysterical. They will claim Trump is a dictator and then also trot out and say we need to beat him in the next election. Dictators don't go up for normal election. 00:14:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's absolutely right, And I will tell you, you know, I to compare that to the Van Jones clip where he's sympathizing with the killer of Arena Zaruska. Compare that to Charlie Kirk the way he covered it S twenty three. 00:15:10 Speaker 1: This was one of the coldest, most senseless murders I've ever seen. She had no interaction with this guy whatsoever. She was sitting by her own business and he just takes on a knife and just decides to stab her. I do say this with some form of just heaviness. I don't like politicizing situations like this, but it just necessitates it because there are so many dynamics at play here. Based on the information evidence we have. The attacker did say I got that white girl. The attacker racialized it in his own telling of this situation. 00:15:43 Speaker 4: And we all know this. 00:15:44 Speaker 1: Any honest observer of your program knows this, including Van Jones, even knows this deep down, which is that, of course, if a random white person on a subway took out a knife and stabbed a black girl senselessly to death, there would be massive media coverage, there would be policy changes, there'd be people having to apologize for this. We saw this in George Floyd. And yet, for whatever reason, this situation has not garnered even a fraction of that kind of outrage or backlash. 00:16:14 Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting this, I have to say, but death of recess it stopped me in my tracks. This isn't about dodgeballs and jungle gyms. It's about control. The modern American classroom didn't just happen. It was intentionally designed. It was standardized and centralized, and once you see who built it and who protects it. Everything clicks. 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Rep Andy Ogles, Republican from Tennessee House Freedom Caucus Member, Welcome back to the show. Congressman. 00:17:39 Speaker 2: Absolutely thanks for having me so I know. 00:17:42 Speaker 3: We got a lot of ground to cover. But I want to start because we haven't had a chance to address it on the show. Yesterday we did a special with Erica Kirk and the Supreme Court case broke and so we're kind of catching up here. But the VRA section to the VIRA has been basically gutted and by this Supreme Court based on the Louisiana maps. But this could have implications across especially the South where you have these minority, racially gerrymandered districts. And now your colleague in the Senate, Marsha Blackburn, has called for a new map. If you could throw that up, folks, a new map of Tennessee. And you will notice, conspicuously it's all red. The map is all red. So what is your take on this and what's your reaction to Senator Blackburn's suggestion? 00:18:30 Speaker 2: Here it's a beautiful map, you know. 00:18:33 Speaker 9: I think what you can do is look at New England States and what we've seen historically over the last several decades, the Democrats will use every tool, every weapon that they have at their disposal to undermine the republic and to undermine Republicans. And so when you look at the map in New England, it's all Blue. Why because they've jurymandered those districts. And so now with this Supreme Court ruling, we truly in the South have the opportunity to take back the House of Reports, to increase our margins. And look the midterms, we know the Democrats are going to lie, cheat and still we just know that, right, And so whether or not we hold the House, whether or not we save the Republic, whether or not we're able to implement Donald Trump. President Trump's agenda and vision for the country, which is amazing, by the way, could literally come down to that single seat in Tennessee and District nine. And so absolutely we need to look at how can we support the cause, how can we save the Republic, and how can we implement President Donald Trump's agenda. 00:19:31 Speaker 3: So one of the pushbacks that Blake and I have been talking about, except for example, in like Texas, is that you are, in theory, you're you're creating some let's say swing districts that if we have a wave year, could go against us, we could actually lose. We're losing ground for example with Hispanics. 00:19:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we should explain this out because the idea of Jerry Mandarin is you can look at districts, and they all are going to have a certain spread of between Republicans and them. 00:19:58 Speaker 3: R plus three versus R plus sixteen. 00:20:00 Speaker 4: So, to use Virginia as an example, Virginia just redrew their map or trying to. We'll see how it goes in the courts, to give them a ten to one advantage. The risk there is every district they're creating. They used to have, let's say five or six districts where they're up by fifteen or twenty points. Now they've made ten districts where they're up by eight or nine points. They're still likely to win. But if you have one really bad year, suddenly you lose ten house seats at once. And when you're making some of these aggressive maps in Texas, in Florida, we should remember Florida voted for Obama twice. Florida has been a swing state in recent history that could revive. And if you have one of these very aggressive maps, suddenly we're putting ten twenty house seats at risk at once. Did you worry about that? 00:20:47 Speaker 3: The other insight here, and Jeremy Carl has a great tweet on this. I recommend ever to check it out. You could be encouraging more moderate Republicans. Are any of these worries for you? 00:20:57 Speaker 9: Well, I mean, at the end of the day, this literally, if we lose the House on day one, the Democrats, instead of doing the business of the American people, instead of trying to make us a better country, secure our borders, have a strong military, all the things that Americans want, They're going to focus on a peaching President Trump. 00:21:16 Speaker 3: Why. 00:21:16 Speaker 9: Because they're crazy, they're leftists, they're loney, and they're more interested in stealing elections than saving the country. So that being said, we have an opportunity, and this is Republicans operate from a space of fear. 00:21:29 Speaker 2: We have an opportunity in front of. 00:21:31 Speaker 9: Us today to pick up eight ten twelve seats. Then right behind it, we have a census where we're going to pick. 00:21:37 Speaker 2: Up eight ten twelve seats. 00:21:39 Speaker 9: And so this idea that you know, we're not going to do the right thing, the proactive thing, the aggressive thing, because of what might happen, I think is an argument that sets us up for failure. We can take and ensure that we hold the House in this next Congress, which literally will be pivotal in saving the country and securing our elections, and by the way, on saving our elections. 00:21:59 Speaker 2: Not to get this off topic. You know, I'm literally going to write a letter. 00:22:03 Speaker 9: We're releasing it today, we'll send it to you invoking Article two, section three of the US Constitution. We have a Congress that is gridlock, and this allows the President to force Congress to stay in Washington, DC and do our dad gum jobs like save America, like funding CBP, and like funding ICE. Enough is enough. We are at crisis mode, we are at war. We're under attack from all sorts of directions and dimensions. It's time we stay in DC and get this done. 00:22:33 Speaker 3: So Article two, section three of the Constitution, one of the clauses here is convening Congress just for our audience's sake. Allows the President to call both houses or either into extraordinary sessions. And I think you're right. I mean, one of the I think under reported aspects of what happened at the White House correspondence dinner was the fact that those ICE agents hadn't been paid in seventy days, So right. 00:22:56 Speaker 9: I mean, and look so under extraordinary circumstances. So I think the logical question is when has it been invoked. It's been invoked. I think it's five times. Four times have been. When you're in a state of war. Now, keep in mind we've been invaded by ten or twelve million people. We have criminals on our streets. We literally just caught an. 00:23:14 Speaker 2: Iranian sniper in Alabama. 00:23:15 Speaker 9: You've got trendy Wagwa, We've got MS thirteen all over the country. 00:23:19 Speaker 2: Like we are in a state of war. 00:23:20 Speaker 9: It may be domestic terror, but it's a state of war and we have to do the thing to secure this country. And if that means we have to have extraordinary circumstances to convene Congress to get this done, to secure our elections, there is case after case after case of theft of stealing elections at the local, the state, and the federal level. I would consider that extreme circumstances when we have democrats, we know we have Democrats that are stealing elections. 00:23:47 Speaker 2: Let's pass the Save America acting. 00:23:48 Speaker 9: And if Thune does not have the stones to nuke the filibuster, then the President has the authority to make them stay there and do their job. And guess what when they're missing their fundraisers, their cotails and their little birthday parties, whatever the hell they're doing when they're not in DC. Suddenly, I think all of that passes when we're here and having to do the job. 00:24:05 Speaker 2: I'm sick of this nonsense. 00:24:07 Speaker 9: We work really hard in the House, we pass all sorts of legislation, and we send it to the Senate where it dies. Enough is enough if they want to play games, if they want to get this done, I encourage the President to invoke Article two, Section three and force Congress to get back to. 00:24:21 Speaker 4: Work and an argument in favor of I think, especially in the wake of this ruling, if you want a justification for passing the Save America Act, even if it means removing the filibuster, you should check the left's reaction to the Supreme Court case that is changing the votings. Right, it's a Louisiana versus Calais or Calai. I don't know how they pronounce that one, but they're getting really unhinged about it. And I know the Democrats do this a lot. Or they say this latest thing is the end of our democracy, but they're getting they're pretty radicalized on it. There are people there are left rings online who are saying one of their ideas is they should add not merely make DC a state, but make at eight different states. Know, truly cartoonish stuff to just to pack the Senate with as many lawmakers as they want. 00:25:08 Speaker 3: I think it's much too. 00:25:09 Speaker 4: It's much flip of the more likely that they will just say we need to abolish the filibuster day one. We need much more arrest of action. We're getting closer to that point where the Democrats are going to make a gigantic power grab the next time they're able to do it. It would behoove us to at least be ready for when. 00:25:26 Speaker 3: This happened, and to have the sense of urgency that you're encouraging. Congressman, I'll play Hakeem Jeffries, your colleague in the House, his statements of the press, and get your reactions to sixteen and so the. 00:25:39 Speaker 9: Guy's falling apart, the MAGA majorities in Congress are falling apart. 00:25:43 Speaker 10: The Supreme Court is a disgrace, and Ben in the new Congress, we're going to have to do something about. 00:25:48 Speaker 2: This Supreme Court. 00:25:49 Speaker 10: And let me be very clear, everything is on the table. 00:25:53 Speaker 3: Your reaction, sir well. 00:25:54 Speaker 9: I mean he's admitting to what they're planning. Everything is on the table. They're going to nuke the filibuster, they're going to pack the Supreme Court. They're gonna do anything and everything they can to grab power. 00:26:06 Speaker 2: And so we have we have no choice. 00:26:09 Speaker 9: I mean, if I have a guy standing in my front yard with a can of gasoline in matches and he's telling me he's gonna burn down my house, I should probably take him seriously. The Kim Jeffrey's just told you he's in our front yard. He's got the gasoline in the matches. He wants to burn this country down and remake it in the image of Europe and the socialists in the Marxists. 00:26:28 Speaker 2: I'm not going to stand by and let that happen. I'm not going to back down. 00:26:31 Speaker 9: I was in the room when the shots were fired to try to kill the president for the third time. I'm a little pissed off because it's the rhetoric from the left where they talk about taking this country by force, where they talk about rights in the streets, and then when something happens, then they point and say it's the alt right. It's not the alt right. We didn't shoot at Biden, we didn't shoot at Obama. No, the liptards have been shooting and trying to kill our president. It's the liptards destroying our country, and it's guys like ak Kim Jeffries, who quite frankly, this civil called to King Jeffries, who shouldn't be in office. 00:27:04 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I agree. The bullets are only flying one way, sir. All right, Congressman, I know you just had votes called. I was getting notes from your team that they're ushering you down to the to the floor here in just a second for votes. But so let we'll make this quick. Bellmont University. I'm gonna play the clip and get your reactions at nineteen. 00:27:35 Speaker 2: He loved you, upset a. 00:27:40 Speaker 3: Place in the movement, man, Belmont used to be this, you know, Christian university, upstanding in Tennessee, red steak, conservative caught no and by the way, Charlie broke a scoop earlier, Congressman h where it was they renamed their de I pro program to Hope, Unity and Belonging well but basically doing de I under another name, trying to get away from the Trump administration cracking down on that. Your reaction to first the violence and the shouting that you experienced on a college campus and just the violence the rhetoric, all of it. 00:28:18 Speaker 9: Your reactions there, well, I mean, you know, universities should be institutions of learning where you hear both sides of any conversation. 00:28:27 Speaker 2: And what you saw there on display. 00:28:29 Speaker 9: Was individuals who were so one sided in their belief that they weren't willing to sit down and have a conversation. At what you didn't see were the seventy or so students maybe closer to eighty or ninety that. 00:28:41 Speaker 2: Were in a room. 00:28:42 Speaker 9: We sat down together and we had conversation, and some of that debate was spirited. 00:28:46 Speaker 2: But that's okay. 00:28:47 Speaker 9: I mean, that's what John Quincy Adams talked about when he said he loved the house. That's where you argued and debated. It was the raucous chamber. And so but you want that dialogue, and so what you have is you have He had a handful of students who I don't think are quite f I think the representative of Belmont University. You know, Nashville is unique and that we have Lipscomb University, we have Belmont, we have Vanderbilt and TSU and MA Harry, we have three medical schools. We have this concentration of a universities that really contribute so much to our community. But then you have these isolated pockets who stand in a hallway and they act like three year old children. Look, I would let my child behave that way, and so when they get called names. Look, if you act like an idiot, someone calls you an idiot, probably stop acting like an idiot. Right, act like a libtard in a hallway and someone calls you a libtard, you know you brought it upon yourself. 00:29:35 Speaker 2: You have a member of. 00:29:36 Speaker 9: Congress in the hallway literally saying, sit down and talk with me. 00:29:41 Speaker 2: I want to hear your side of. 00:29:43 Speaker 9: This conversation, but it also expects you to sit down and hear my version. They weren't interested in that, but that is indicative of the left. You have to agree with them, or they call you racist, or they call you a bigot, or heaven forbid, like Charlie, like the president, they try to shoot you. 00:30:01 Speaker 3: Well, said sir, I know you got to get away and get to the go get some votes done there, which is kind of your job. So we'll let you do it. But I just want to give one quick shout out before I let you go. You have been leading the charge on what I think is the existential threat to the United States, and that is reforming legal immigration. And I'm grateful for you for doing that. You've even called for the repeal of Heartseller, the nineteen sixties era immigration bill that basically transformed the country, and nobody really had any idea what it was going to do. As a matter of fact, they promised it wouldn't do what it's done. And the erasure of American society and the invasion level immigration, which was compounded in nineteen ninety when they expanded Green card holders from five hundred thousand a years to one point two million a year. We have been absolutely subjected to invasion level immigration. And you're doing a great job. We need to change the Overton window in Congress, because all of us out here, we get it. 00:31:00 Speaker 2: Do it. 00:31:01 Speaker 3: Net zero immigration moratorium. We're all in. We do pull after pull. Everybody wants it. We're sick of all the immigration. We're done. We've had a big meal. We need time to digest. But your colleagues in Congress, they cannot figure it out that we're done with it. 00:31:14 Speaker 2: And I'm meeting the drum. 00:31:16 Speaker 9: And to your point, it is forced invasion it's it's it's no longer immigration, it's an invasion. 00:31:21 Speaker 2: We have to call it what it is. And you can look at the the literally the rape of Europe right now. 00:31:25 Speaker 9: If we don't wake up, that's coming to New York, that's coming to Chicago, it's coming to Nashville. 00:31:29 Speaker 2: And I'm not going to let that happen on my watch. 00:31:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we we're still letting in too many damn people, can't it. So God bless you for banging the drum, because it is an overton window an anybody in DC thinks it's beyond the pale to say, oh, we don't need this many immigrants. We got an ai revolution coming down the pike. We're gonna we're going to create a permanent underclass of these people because there's no not gonna be any jobs from farm sector to you know, many entry level jobs, many labor jobs, all of it's going to be wiped away in about ten years. And so we better be taking care of Americans first. And Congressman, I just wanted to salute you for doing that and leading the charge on that, because we need to change the thinking in Washington. What's possible and hopefully this Vra Scotus ruling will help us get you some reinforcements in Congress that can get that done. 00:32:16 Speaker 2: We got to thank you so much. 00:32:17 Speaker 3: All right, God bless you, sir Blake your reaction to Belmont. You know this is not limited that the the screeching and the wailing and the gnashing of teeth of these infantile libtards is the libtars. I love that we had a counter. 00:32:31 Speaker 4: Great, it's great to hear, it's great to hear a Congressman using it. But it's it's important to note this because it's a thing Charlie was worried about. It's a thing we all need to remain worried about, which is reminding ourselves that really deranged left wing stuff is not a thing restricted to the Ivy League. It's not a thing restricted to blue states or really blue cities and regions. It's a thing that is all across the country. And we've really, I think only in the last few years, really seen the right start to realize this. I think we got a great model in Florida where Governor DeSantis they he let Christopher Rufo start experimenting on the new College in Florida. But you also seen it. I think it was Oklahoma. You start seeing the schools look at their public universities and say, wait, what are we paying for with unlimited public money to do? And I think when we look at all of the schools and what we're funding with state dollars states, you know, because states get involved in the education game, I think it really behooves us to be aware of these things. 00:33:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's crazy for to see that scene out of Belmont University, which is you know, in Tennessee. Yeah, and Andy Ogles is a popular congressman and to see him shout it down as a bigot, and it's probably because of his immigration stuff. Candidly, I mean, Andy Ogles is one of those guys that's proudly defending Western civilization. He's proudly defending traditional hairtage, American traditions and values, and so for that, he's a bigot to these absolute infantile just I don't know who raised them. 00:34:10 Speaker 4: And they're they're infantile. But I would be careful using that specific word because I think it carries well, it carries an implication of impotence that they're they're just screaming babies. And what they are is they are ruthlessly they're emotionally, but they are ruthlessly effective at getting what they want. This is not stuff that is crazy. Stuff on campus does not stay contained to campuses. It spills out everywhere, and it rapidly becomes what you see in cities and eventually what you see at the state level. Insane laws start at the campus. So you have to look at what they're doing and take it deadly serious. 00:34:44 Speaker 3: Well, and here's the here's the truth. Most congressmen are not courageous like Andy Ogles. They'll they're getting that, They'll see that, and then they will cower in fear because they don't want to be shotted at. They don't want to be targeted. 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We have State Senator Greg Dolazol from He's a Republican out of Georgia State senator out of Georgia. He is calling for new maps in the state of Georgia. If you notice a theme of the show today, this Vre Supreme Court ruling was a whopper on QUIRKSA. 00:36:50 Speaker 4: We didn't fully explain it in the last one, so we should probably do it here. So what was happening. This is a legal case over the state of Louisiana. So the state of Louisiana had a map that was basically, I want to say, five Republican seats and one Democrat seat, or it might have been let me actually check how many. 00:37:08 Speaker 3: Oh yes, but it was a racially gerrymandered map based on. 00:37:12 Speaker 4: It wasn't so well, it was okay, So it was what the original one was. And what happened is a judge they had kind of one seat that was heavily Democrat, and a federal judge said, the Voting Rights Act requires you to create more black majority districts that are going to be one by a black Democrat candidate. This is what the judge ruled, and he drew this like mutant looking map. You can check it. It has this hideous shape where it's stretching almost from New Orleans all the way up to Shreveport. These tendrils to create multiple districts. Louisiana contested this. It went to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court said, you can't draw these wild mutant districts just to create racial majorities for minorities, and you're just you're not required to do that, and it's okay for They also gave a green light. You are allowed to draw maps essentially for partisan Jerry Mandarin reasons, even if they have some sort of racial impact. Where this will have an impact, most of all is in the South. And the big picture here is for decades it has been legal for Democrats anywhere they want to draw whatever districts they want, Virginia style, where they're going to say we're going to blow up any Republican seat we feel like. But then the course will say it's illegal for Republicans to retaliate, because we're going to say that it's racist for you guys to do it, but not for Democrats to do it. And the Supreme Court basically said, nope, it's equal. Everyone's allowed to do partisan jerry manders if they want. And this unleashes us in the South to redraw some new maps. 00:38:39 Speaker 3: And State Senator Greg Dolazol joins us Now, Senator, welcome to the show. You are calling for Georgia to do something big, for Governor Kemp to do something big. Explain it and what do you think is going to happen next? 00:38:52 Speaker 11: Hey, Andrew Blake going to see you guys again. Yeah, the South has been forced and we were forced to do this in Georgia just a couple of years ago. We drew maps and that Judge Jones ruled that we had to draw more majority minority districts. And what that forced us to do really was just look at people solely through the lens of race, and we don't do that in America. And so the Supreme Court ruled correctly yesterday that opens the window not only for Georgia but for other Southern states. To go into special session. Obviously, the congressional maps can be impacted by this, guys, but don't forget state House seats and state Senate seats also had to live under these jerry mandarin rules handed down by judges, like what happened here in Georgia, and this happened all over the South. You guys know, there's not even a single congressional seat that's a Republican seat in all of New England, and so they've been jerry mandering like crazy. And this time it's time for Georgia to go into a special session. I believe I saw that Virginia has already indicated that that's probably going to happen there. We've got to We have the opportunity now to draw fair maps. The goal here is not to do anything the farious. The goal here is that after we know that what happened yet with yesterday's ruling, we now know that we are forced to draw unconstitutional maps, and we have to come back to sessions so we can draw constitutional maps based on traditional redistricting principles. 00:40:14 Speaker 4: So, Senator, I think a natural question because we were concerned about this. We've mentioned with Florida, with Texas, they are drawing maps that have that could result in Republican gains. But with any district draw you have the risk if you stretch Republican votes too far, you could flip it. And I know that's worth a thought for Georgia. Georgia, as we know, has been a very close state in many recent elections. It's not going super far either way. So if we draw a new House map for Georgia, what do you think is the most likely breakdown of likely Republican to likely Democrat seats that we would see? And just for comparison, right now, there are I believe five Democrat leaning seats in Georgia. 00:40:59 Speaker 11: Yeah, we're nine to five right now, I believe is our current count. I've seen the prognosticators say that there's an easy single seat that probably was an unconstitutionally drawn seat, so one, potentially two. So you're not going to move the needle here, probably in Georgia the way that you're seeing other states do it, but you know, one unconstitutional seat rectifind that certainly is the right. 00:41:20 Speaker 3: Thing to do. 00:41:21 Speaker 11: But this also has implications for our state House and our state Senate as well, because we were forced as well to racially Jerrymander under Judge's orders on both. 00:41:31 Speaker 10: Of those fronts. 00:41:31 Speaker 3: So what does it take to get this done? So you're calling on Governor Kemp, so assume that I would assume that Governor Kemp is the key here or is there another route? 00:41:41 Speaker 11: Yeah, there's two triggers, and I'm not specifically calling out the governor, but the governor does have he is the individual does have the ability to do that in his own capacity, and then two thirds of the General Assembly can also do that as well. That'll probably go over as well as when I called for a special session back in twenty twenty. In terms of two thirds of the General Assembly, we got just a handful of folks willing to stand up. Back then, you might see a bulk of Republicans do it, but we do not have a constitutional majority here in Georgia. So realistically and functionally, the only way for that to happen, I'm sure is with the governor. I'm sure he's huddling with his team, having conversations and trying to figure out what he wants to do. 00:42:18 Speaker 3: Well, and we just got news looks like President Trump says he just had a good conversation with Governor Bill Lee in Tennessee this morning, wherein he stated that he would work hard to correct the unconstitutional flaw on the congressional maps the great state of Tennessee. So that's one state. We've heard the same from Mississippi. Obviously, we know this was all sparked by Louisiana. Florida has come in. I mean, there is a map here and I'll show you the redistricting where it shows we could add up to twelve seats across the entire South. Now, I know you're also on the state level, so you're concerned about that as well. So which is huge. By the way, the way that we run red states needs to be redder and more conservative. Right, look at what Virginia has done where they get, you know, barely have a margin there and they go full Calmi right. You give them fifty plus one and they go full leftists. And so we should at least be as conservative as our voters are, right, get the things done that we know our voters want. This is plus twelve though across the South, and there's big swaths of that blue. I mean, it's just wild to see how much blue and deep red South there that there is because of the VRA. That left map is literally the historical legacy of the Voter Rights Act Section two, which has just been completely altered in or at least our understanding of it legally has been. So if Governor Kemp calls for a special session, what then needs to be done in order to get those maps approved? And what's the timing on it? Can you get it done by midterms? 00:43:47 Speaker 11: I don't know that we can get it done by the midterms. There's an open question because we actually have early voting underway right now. A couple of quick thoughts, so Andrew first and foremost, the reason the state legislatures are important is they're the ones that will do the redistricting after the next census, and so rebalancing these districts to be fair districts in the South impacts the next decade really of American politics and control of the House for the in the twenty thirties. I know that the lawyers here discussing what can be done there. I misspoke earlier in supt. Virginia. I think that it's Louisiana that is saying they're going to pause their mid terms. I haven't seen a legal brief know an official opinion on that. But the other thing I want to highlight, Andrew, is this not just this redistricting, this racial jerry mannering that Democrats have been weaponizing. That combined with all of the illegals that they have flooded into their districts and their states, the count and the census for the apportionment of House reps can't be overlooked as well. And that's really just kind of skewed the balance of power in this country for thirty years. 00:44:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Jeremy carl again, I've read the second time I've referenced him. He's basically saying that we could have fair representation in this state, more accurate representation in the country rather for the first time in his lifetime. We're on the path by the twenty thirties to have some of the you know things that Democrats have gotten accomplished for decades, having those reversed and having it set right. So, you know, while everybody's dooming out there, just remember there's some really big structural things that take time to get done, and we're watching it happen before our eyes. So I want to play this clip. I'm actually there's like two clips. I really really want to play, but this one I thought gave away the game. This was a CNN reacting yesterday to the clip, and Blake, you've got I got to get your reaction to this. This is what's great about having Blake on this. He's like a His mind is a fascinating place to explore. So get your thoughts on this. St. Thirty four. 00:45:41 Speaker 12: The challenges are going to have to say that there are no race neutral reasons for this, and that's awfully hard, especially because of the partisan alignment between white's generally voting Republican and black's generally being affiliated with the Democratic the party. 00:45:56 Speaker 3: Pam, all right, we're joined, of course by State Senator Greg Dole's all from Georgia. So Blake, Greg, did you catch what she just said there? It like for me, it was like a huge whoopsie daisies there because she said because blacks generally vote Democrat and whites generally vote Republican. They admitted it, and if you look back through the years, basically you'll realize a stunning factoid that Democrats can't win the white vote, at least the majority of it. 00:46:28 Speaker 4: But it's I actually want to pick up that because there was an exceptionally funny case that really gets at the heart of this. This is during the Obama years and there was a town in North Carolina and what they wanted to do is they wanted to change it to their local elections were nonpartisan. You just didn't have a party. And Eric Holder's doj tried to block this, and they were filing cases in court where they said this was illegal. They said because it would be deprive black residents of their basically their constitutional right to vote for Democrats, that they would not be represented unless they could vote for the Democratic Party on the ballot. And I think that, you know, it's a few years ago at this point, but that perfectly does encapsulate their thinking that this is not about, you know, the right to vote, This is not about racial equity. This is specifically just saying they have to be voting for a specific party and electing a specific party or else it's unconstitutional. It's a perfect illustration of the Democrats saying, our interests are the only thing that's constitutional, which manifests on every issue. 00:47:33 Speaker 3: And this is exactly why Democrats are freaking out about this. And I'll say this one final line and then the floor is yours, senator. But if you wonder why your community is getting overrun with unending, massive, unfettered waves of invasion, level immigration, if you wonder why the laws have been constructed in such a way, that clip gives it all up. It gives away the whole game is because democrats realized a long time ago that playing it straight, playing it, you know, the way that you'd think that the system was designed, No, that doesn't work. They have to game it, and they have to fledge your communities with people that they can more easily get them to vote their way, because the people that were here didn't want to vote for them. And I think that's a very telling, very telling clip. Center your reaction to all of this. 00:48:22 Speaker 10: Yeah, I agree, guys. 00:48:23 Speaker 11: I think it's important in these moments when you try to kind of decipher what the other side is saying. We've got to remember the progressivism is a religion masquerading as a political ideology. And so for these people, you wonder why they resort to violence so quickly. You wonder why they kind of rig the system, why they would want to import tens of millions of people into this country and really change the fabric of this country. You don't understand it until you recognize that for them, this is religion. This is all that they think about. They're obsessive. There is not necessarily something higher that they believe in that they're striving for. This is the end. Political victory for them is the end, and they are willing to do it by any means necessary. And frankly, they don't care if they see the downfall of America come about as long as they're the ones that are in power. As you know, we're whistling past the graveyard here, and so I think we see a number of these things that are And it also tells you what they think about black people. We've seen this, you know, Joe Biden, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black. We see, you know here in Georgia when we passed voter ID law, they called it Jim Crow two point zero because they didn't believe that minorities were capable of getting an ID. And they have this soft bigotry of low expectations that really frankly shows you what they do think of their very their of their voters. 00:49:40 Speaker 3: Oh, I totally agree. They believe that they are entitled to the black vote, and what they're going to find out, I think continually, is that the further away we get from the sixties, and as blacks over fifty have already showed this way less tribal affiliation with the Democrat Party, they're much more of a gettable vote. But to your point, Jim Crow two point oh, they got to they had to take this sick, this one back out and reuse it again to eight. 00:50:06 Speaker 10: And today we're ramping up our reforts. We see the need for it. 00:50:09 Speaker 13: Just today and today's Supreme Court decision, which is a despicable decision that is a return to Jim Crow. 00:50:16 Speaker 3: Uh pardon for that clip. There was an issue with it, but you heard it. It's a return to Jim Crow. I mean, we're literally this is why there needs to be, you know, term limits. By the way, the day that we have congressmen and senators stop using Jim Crow, return to Jim Crow, that will be a good day for the country. But this is this is the point. I mean, I've got I've got fourteen clips here on my clipsheet that I could just it's a grab bag of Democrats hyperventilating about this because I think they smell blood in the water the midterms, and they realize that, Okay, the midterms, We're not sure what's gonna happen. We might not have enough time. But you come come twenty twenty eight, in the twenty thirties, when that census hit and all those people have moved from California and all in Illinois and New York down to the red states, that they are not going to be able to It's gonna be let's put it this way, it's gonna be very difficult for them to win back the House. It's gonna be very difficult. Senator, thank you for coming on again. We appreciate it, and we pray for much success in Georgia. It's a tight state, but I do agree. We looked at the maps in the breaks there's at least one House seat that I think is gettable. So let's hope you guys are successful in that the governor Kemp shows some spine and gets on board. So great having you again. We'll talk to you soon. 00:51:35 Speaker 2: Thank you. 00:51:35 Speaker 10: Guys. 00:51:38 Speaker 3: America is entering its two hundred and fiftieth year, and the direction of this country is being decided right now in our culture and our economy and who we choose to support matters more than ever. Most wireless companies don't care who you are or what you believe. They just want your money. Patriot Mobile is different. For more than twelve years, they've stood with Americans who believe freedom is worth funding the Christian Conservative movement when others stayed silent. And here's the deal. You don't have to give up quality or service when you switch to Patriot Mobile. 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Ryan, Welcome back to the show, my friend. 00:53:04 Speaker 10: Thanks for having me. 00:53:05 Speaker 3: You also got a show, Ryan, Yeah, tell us about the podcast for us. 00:53:09 Speaker 10: Yes, the podcast called The Numbers Game with Ryan Gardowski. It's on iHeartRadio and we discussed data behind everything going in politics and the news and economics. So I kind of break down the numbers behind what's driving news stop. It's a little bit wonky, it's a little nerdy, but it's really really interesting. It's growing. It's one of the best shows on the clam Buck Network. 00:53:27 Speaker 3: I love it all right, So you, uh, we have so much to get into. Actually, let's go to redistricting first, because we've kind of been on that beat a little bit. I sort of posed to you two questions, what would the numbers be and what's the timing? How fast can we get this done? There's a lot of consternation about midterms for obvious reasons, some headwinds that we're looking at. Question how fast and what are the numbers? 00:53:56 Speaker 10: I think in some states you can get it done relatively easily. I Misssissippy Tate Reeves says he's doing it. Louisiana says he could do it. The numbers overall, if you could do it across the entire Deep South, would be twelve House seats. Four in Florida, two in Georgia, two in Louisiana, two in Alabama, one in Mississippi, one in Tennessee, the one in North Carolina has already been districted, and one in South Carolina. So twelve total be thirteen North Carolina. But we already done that. I think some governors would be very quick to go along with it, like Tate Reeves in Mississippi. Louisiana has already stopped their primary ballots and they're going to push it back and have one in Louisiana. Flora's already done it with Governor Ronda santa Is taking the lead there. Other states like Alabama Ivy. Governor Ivy has said that she is not going to do it this term, and the ag and kind of her are arguing about this. Governor Ivy is terminated, so she's out after this year anyway, but she's basically said no. Governor of Georgia. I have a very hard time seeing how Brian Kemp does do it. He's been kind of resistant to a lot of things that the Republicans wanted to do. South Carolina, it depends on how much love Cliveburne has given. Almost all these states are having new governors come in after next year, almost all of them will have Republican governors. I think the conversation is going to be immediately to all the people running for governors if they're going to do this in the twenty twenty seven year, the twenty twenty eight year, so overall twelve seats, which is a game changing number, but the timeline, I would say maybe three states are going to do it on time? 00:55:21 Speaker 3: Got it? And how many would you count among those three states? 00:55:25 Speaker 10: That would be seven seats. It's still easy. One in Mississippi and four in Flora Alabama. Let's see what pressure goes on to Kate Ivy. 00:55:35 Speaker 4: That's but that's I mean, that's offsetting the Virginia power play, which is not a sure thing to be pulled off. It's offsetting California. I know polls suggest it's dicey to hold the House no matter what, but what would you say that has on our percent chance of sustaining things. 00:55:52 Speaker 10: Yeah, so everyone kind of goes back to the twenty eighteen numbers. But Republicans lost dozens of seats. There are far fewer swing districts this time than they are next time. There's there's really no new seats in California, they're gonna lose like cause there's only four left. New York has a few swing seats. New Jersey has one swing seat. Pennsylvania is the big state. It has four swing seats three Republicans hands, so that's like the really sorry four Republicans hands. Rather, that's a really big place. Michigan has one or two. So there's just less swing states to really go around. As we are whittling down how many states we could lose, how many states we can win. This would basically guarantee Republicans really can't go under two hundred seats and probably into the two oh five two six territory, and then we're looking at Democrats maybe with a ten to fifteen seat majority of most. 00:56:43 Speaker 3: That's I mean, we have a very slim majority in the House right now, and it's hard to get stuff done. But you know, when you have the majority you have power, right and so we you know, even if we lose the House and it's only ten or fifteen seats, I mean, yeah, it's not a bloodbath, but it's we're still we're still looking at impeachments, we're still looking at endless in back. 00:57:03 Speaker 10: Absolutely. But what happens then is there's a there's a big argument that goes on between like the Josh Gothheimers of Congress, who are much more moderate obviously, very more favorable on Israel and other issues. And then you have the AOC wing, you have the squad, and you have a real real breakdown within the Democratic Party of where what vision that they have going on? And I think you're gonna see them. I think you'll see the moderate Democrats cave to the woke, much more woke progressive wing of the party on issue after issue, which hurts them going into twenty twenty eight. So it's not a complete loss. And then we go into twenty you know, it's very funny right now if you see the left that they are having a nervous breakdown on Twitter, they are you know, they're like, we're gonna readis New York and New Jersey in Minnesota, and we're gonna live Democrats is nothing. At the end of the day, Democrats face a long term issue because as of right now, California, Oregon, Rhode Island, New York, and Illinois are going to lose nine seats if Trump does not crack on immigration, which which is the big thing because these states grow only through mass immigration. They're gonna lose about a dozen seats in the twenty thirty census, and the old seats are going to go to red states and they will redistrict new House seats mostly red districts. They'll be me of a few one or two Democrats seats, but they will be mostly red seats in these states. That creates a dynamic where they cannot redistrict enough to give themselves majority. I don't like this, you know, cold war hot war of redistricting numbers. I think politicians picking their voters instead of voters being their politicians. Not great for a democracy. However, they can't win this through just redistricting fight after redistricting fight. 00:58:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. I'm going to play a clip here from AOC and heavy reaction to it because she's getting to something similar that I apologize in advance or playing a AOC clip, but. 00:58:47 Speaker 9: It should New York respond in kind by doing its own redistricting once the if the amendment passes. 00:58:55 Speaker 6: I have long. 00:58:57 Speaker 14: Felt that we all have to play by the same set of rules, and the Republican Caucus has made it very clear that they want and are setting rules of partisan jerrymandering. The Democratic Caucus has tried to pass non partisan jerry mandering for ten years, Republicans have rejected it, and so we have to all. 00:59:18 Speaker 15: Abide by the same rules. And so if Republicans are going to redraw North Carolina, if they're going to redraw Texas, if they're going to redraw and jerry mander every one of their states, then unfortunately, we have to provide balance to that until we get to the day where we can all finally agree to put this behind us and pass nonpartisan jerrymandering federally. 00:59:40 Speaker 3: How Come when I hear her say nonpartisan jerry mandering, I just assume we're going to get screwed. 00:59:44 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, let's unpack that a bit, because we've seen this play out. I know in California, for example, they have non partisan jerry mandarin. 00:59:52 Speaker 3: Or the Virginia gave them the language and the Virginia farness, the fairness maps. 00:59:56 Speaker 4: The fairness maps. But you might know about this Ryan, how it has played out at the state level. I know in California specifically, there was a lot of process where they could declare people stakeholders in the process, I believe, and this would just justify it. Turns out we needed ninety two percent Democrat seats in the state to be fair. 01:00:15 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:00:16 Speaker 10: So, actually, if you want to see a worst case of independent and Gerryman redistricting, New Jersey has districts that are not even connected by land, like they connect them through the ocean and that's how the district is connected. So actually New Jerseys is way more egregious with independent redistricting. In New York, the New Yorker, the New York voters passed an independent redistricting law over ten years ago. In twenty twenty one, Kathy hig Will try to repeal that law. It went down and her her appeal repeal went down in flames. She lost by ten points to repeal the independent redistricting. So she has tried multiple times to redistrict New York state and it's failed in both federal and state courts and that she's tried over and over again. She just tried in Staten Island this year. There's no way for her to do it in time for the twenty twenty sixth election, so this is a twenty twenty eight play. But AOC should be much more worried. New York lost over two hundred thousand residents over the last seven years aquase, according to new census numbers. If without immigration, their domestic migration out of New York is so heavy and the death toll from older New York is just dying, naturally increases the loss year after year. AOC should worry about what kind of seat she's going to have because New York City is almost certainly going to lose a seed and there's only one Republican left in New York City. So they could talk about redistricting. I mean, they can't get rid of Staten Island. I'm sure they would like to. But AOC should much more worry about kind of district she's gonna have to have to represent into in four years, rather than whether or not what Republicans are doing. And by the way, Illinois did it first. California's douce in the seventies when Democrats controlled Texas. They love to do this Jerry Mannering in the eighties. There is no like. It's not a question of like, we didn't start the fire. I mean it's a quote Billy Joel, Republicans didn't start the fire. This isn't going on for decades. If you want a true independent thing, I mean, this is never going to happen. Get rid of the districts as a whole. Do you know, proportional representation by state of how they vote. That's literally the only way you get rid of Jerry Mannering. Other than that, we're always going to have something. It just depends on how fair it ultimately is. 01:02:14 Speaker 3: Homelandpack dot Com Ryan is man after my own heart here. You want to elect candidates that support sovereignty, border security, immigration, common sense, tell us about it. 01:02:28 Speaker 10: Yes, I launched a new superpack called homeland pack dot com after Maria Salazar push forward the Digna dot Act, which would give amnesty to probably fifteen million illegal aliens. Twelve to fifteen million illegal aliens. We want to hold all twenty Republicans many are not running for reelection, but hold the twenty Republicans accountable. We're already pushing for one primary challenge right now in this election cycle, many more in twenty twenty eight. We're gonna hold accountable and support Republicans who are really good at immigration. We need more Brandon Gills in Congress. 01:02:54 Speaker 3: Amen, Brandon gil he's been amazing. You were a colleague, are you a studio? 01:02:59 Speaker 4: Was a lower classmen? While I was at Dartmouth. 01:03:02 Speaker 3: Dartmouth I was a campaign or No, Yeah, that's great. I want to talk about this thing that you were posting about online. Looks like it's titled the Americans are coming. For the first time in recorded history, more Americans moved to the EU and UK countries than Europeans moved to the US. And you see this graph here, and I sent it to Blake. His first reaction was like, that's kind of depressing, and I go, no, it's just. 01:03:32 Speaker 4: Just twenty years ago the ratio was four to one. 01:03:35 Speaker 3: Ratio is four to one. I have zero problem with this, and I'll explain why because you look at that graph. It's basically when Trump gets into office, the dip happens from Europeans coming to the United States and guess what, guess who's leaving All the liberals all the rosy O'Donnells and they're just fleeing the country in mass I have zero problem with this. By the way, it doesn't change the fact that we have a third world invasion migration problem that's erasing American culture. Got to deal with that separately. This to me is just getting rid of like dead weight. Ryan, what's your take? 01:04:10 Speaker 10: And you know it's only one party holds primaries abroad and it's not the Republican Party because Conservatives don't leave America in general. I mean, maybe a handful do, but most do not. Democrats hold primaries abroad. Bernie Sanders brother in the twenty sixteen election was a delegate from Americans living abroad because liberals like the flee. My contention always is, if these liberals can't stand America because we're such an overtly racist country, why do they always move to countries that is whiter than us? Like why not go to Haiti? Haiti is apparently not a whole country. It's a beautiful place, allegedly, and we can't say, you know that the Haitians have enormous welfare programs and problems and all the rest of it. Absolutely no problem Why don't they move to Haiti? Why does any of these I never heard of a liberal moving to Tanzania or go to Liberia or any of the other million countries that is a majority non white country. They always move to white places that are whiter than US, places like many of their you know, gated communities which they live in while they scream about diversity. It is infuriating. 01:05:17 Speaker 3: But you know, I don't. I don't think this should be able to vote if they're abroad. Candidly, I want to get rid of dual citizenships, and I want to get rid of like unless you're in the military or if you know you're something like okay, there's carve outs. But if you're just gonna flee the country, like Rose O'Donnell, should not be allowed to vote in American elections. I'm sorry, but you don't care about us enough to live here. You're so afraid of Trump, well then fine, go away. And by the way, if you pursue a dual citizenship, you don't get to vote either. Like I don't know, there's got to be something we can do about this, because this is infuriating what you just told me, This primary of abroad get out of here. Stop it. 01:05:55 Speaker 10: Yeah, no, I one hundred percent agree with you. I don't think that people who live around the world. I have a relative whose sister lives in Germany. She's lived in Joermany for thirty years. She's a two time Obama voter. She's a Biden voter, she's a Hillary voter. She votes in every American election there is. She's not step foot in this country in over thirty years, and she is, you know, ardently for the Democratic Party, never misses an election, her vote. You know, maybe can go to like a fake election count like this is how they would have counted. I can go to like the Seapac tolls, like it doesn't really mean anything, but like they should not count towards any state how they vote in an electoral college at all, whatsoever. And it shouldn't really count for the popular vote either. Not for the popular vote means as much, certainly not to like a House representative, and especially in these close elections where a few votes matter and they're like, we have to wait till these you know, overseas ballots come up, unless they are a military serving across the world. Absolutely not. I completely agree with you. 01:06:52 Speaker 4: Now I know we can gloate about this because yeah, there are the Rosie O'Donnell's who move to Europe. 01:06:57 Speaker 3: I think that's the vast majority. 01:06:59 Speaker 4: I think I think that's over that's thinking too much. We cover politics every day, so we view so many things through the lens of politics. The vast majority of people who move countries are not doing it in protest over a country's election result one way or the other. And look and if you look at the chart, it's not so much that there's been an like an explosion in Americans leaving the country. It's also that there's just a decline in Europeans coming to America. And I think we should reflect on that because America, as it was twenty years ago, it was a four to one thing, because this is where you came for all the opportunity, all the jobs, and there's still a bit of that. Europe's economy is actually quite stagnant and backwards. But ultimately, we do want to be a country where Europeans are culturally and economically at home, because that is our bedrock, that is our history. And instead we've become, as we've said, a dumping ground for the third World. They're still coming Yeah. 01:07:56 Speaker 10: But also to remember this, people who move tend not to be sixty five and older. Right, you don't live to move to a new country when you're you know, a grandparent. Usually Europe is aging, it's aging, vastly they are. Countries like Italy have a shrinking population. Countries like Poland are very close to it. They're just they're only growing because their expats are moving home because the economy is so strong. That's part of why they don't have any immigrants coming here. And a big part of it is they're, you know, afraid of Trump. I'm afraid of America. And they've been they watched scene and abroad it's like it's nonsense. Twenty four hours a day, seventy is a week. So they hear these stories that you have to be afraid, you have to leave. And also it's a continant of aging people. And if they want, i mean forget if they want to send people abroad, if they want to survive as a as a content, they need to start having babies very very quickly. 01:08:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a very good point. One last story here, Ryan uh Stop thirty seven. 01:08:48 Speaker 13: Well, a real sense of excitement here at gate D fifty five in Miami International Airport. That's something you haven't seen up on the board for the past seven years. 01:08:56 Speaker 3: Caracas, Venezuela. 01:08:57 Speaker 13: American Airlines is going to make the first commercial flights to Venezuela from the US in seven years. Through the unrest in that country. It just hasn't happened for a lot of people here in Florida. It's going to be a chance for some to reunite with their family members. This is a symbol not just of reunions, but how much has changed in Venezuela over the past one hundred and seventeen days. 01:09:19 Speaker 3: Great, So, all of the asylum, the seekers, all of the temporary, whatever the categorization, they can all go home now right right. 01:09:28 Speaker 10: Absolutely, if you are if you vacation in the country, you are fleeing. You do not get to come back to America. The amount of Somalians who have vacationed in Somalia and have visited a family and they got here through asylum absolutely should have there said that is the senship revoked and their asylum claims revoked. There's no reason they do not belonger. Then if it's so safe to go back, I mean, and if these countries are so terrible like that, this vote for TPS and eighty. Why can I fly to Port of Prince today. I can go buy a ticket at JFK and fly there today. It's clearly not nearly as dangerous as they're claiming. And if they're going to vacation and going to visit the family, they're not running from the government, and they don't have a legitimate claim to asylum. Absolutely, if American airlines are Delta will fly there. There's no reasoning of asylum. 01:10:16 Speaker 3: Amen. Amen, we agree. I wish we could disagree. I think when it comes to immigration, Ryan, you and me are probably on the same page. I'm so sick of all this gaming our system and like, oh, I'm just gonna go back and visit my family, but I need an asylum because I fear for my life. No, you need to get the heck out, and we actually need to. This is the problem with government immigration. When they grant this temporary stuff, it's never temporary, it's always gamed. Ryan James Gudski that we ran out of time. But check out all of his things, the numbers, Game, Homeland, Pack, nap pops Up Stack, check them all out. 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