Charlie’s 4th of July Flashback + Larry Arnn on the Founder’s Key

00:00:03 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie kirk I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start at turning point. You would say college chapter. Go start aturning point, yould say high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. Here I am Lord, Use me. Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. 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You know, it's only one of two days I have dessert. 00:01:41 Speaker 2: Really, what is the dessert? 00:01:42 Speaker 1: Oh, it's a mint chocolate chip from Handles. 00:01:45 Speaker 3: Oh, Handles is good stuff. 00:01:47 Speaker 1: I pride myself on discipline and self control two days a year, my birthday, and on July fourth, I have ice cream? 00:01:54 Speaker 2: All right? 00:01:54 Speaker 3: I do they have a handles on Scotstill it's the best. Yeah, they've got a handles down at Gilbert. It's incredible levable this place. 00:02:01 Speaker 1: It runs circles around Ben and Jerry's and what's the other one, Governor cold Stump. 00:02:09 Speaker 2: Just go get some as soon as this conversation is over. 00:02:11 Speaker 3: Now, Handles is like legit stuff. It's like it's it's realize great. 00:02:14 Speaker 1: When Erica was pregnant. She would have it like every Friday I went and got handles. It's like insanely caloric. It's made with all the you know, the all the real good stuff. So Happy Independence Day, everybody. This is an Independence Day special and we're going to go through some of your questions that you guys email us here while we're on air, Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. But most importantly, we want to make sure you guys get into the mindset because this Thursday, Today, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, we have an opportunity to expand our base and to make this not a weekend of just celebration, debauchery and fireworks, A little bit of that if you want to do that, I guess is fine, but is also of action. Tyler is here. He runs the largest organization and the conservative movement, not the largest in the country because there's some left wing ones that are still bigger. Tyler, We're getting there. And our call to action right now we're gonna get to some questions too, is make the Independence Day make July fourth weekend matter? 00:03:09 Speaker 3: Yep? 00:03:10 Speaker 1: What does that mean? From a political action standpoint? 00:03:13 Speaker 3: We need you to get involved. You can start doing that by downloading the Turning Point Action application. You can find that wherever you get your app, so the Google Play Store, the Apple App Store. 00:03:23 Speaker 1: Also tpaction dot Com has a hyperlink, so very easy. 00:03:26 Speaker 3: Tpaction dot Com tpaction dot Com. You can go the button right, there's a butt on the top right hand corner. 00:03:33 Speaker 1: Store. 00:03:33 Speaker 3: Right, that's exactly right if you do it on your phone. 00:03:35 Speaker 4: Uh. 00:03:36 Speaker 3: Second thing is is just registering voters being ready. 00:03:38 Speaker 1: Like you said, so what does that mean? Someone says, what does it mean to register voters? 00:03:41 Speaker 3: Well, this is why you need the app because we make it easy. Once you get in and you get into the activism tool section, the arrow on the top left hand corner, there's a nice easy button that you can push. This says register to vote. Uh, if you want to go to our website, it's tpaction dot com slash vote, which I use all the time, which Charlie he said, end me every week like two to. 00:04:01 Speaker 1: Three, you vote a monster in Scottsdale, man. 00:04:03 Speaker 3: And this is what our full time reps are doing, right, This is what everybody's doing at Turning Point Action is where registering people everywhere we go. But tpaction dot Com slash vote helps the easiest way to do this because it's just like the tools the Left are putting together. So it gives you a form, you fill it out quickly. That way we can follow up with people in case they don't actually register to vote, press go, and then it takes you over to your state's website to do that. The only thing you basically need to have ready is that state ID or driver's license. So the biggest question that people always have is do I have to have an ID in the state where I'm registering? Yes, you do in most cases, almost every case. 00:04:39 Speaker 1: Do you have to be the full time resident of that state? 00:04:42 Speaker 3: So the laws differ so how they identify. So what we do know is in most you know, in every state, you can't be registered in two places. Right, you can't vote in two places is mostly the law. 00:04:54 Speaker 1: But sometimes you can be registered in two places, but you shouldn't be. 00:04:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and you should. 00:04:58 Speaker 1: Like when I leave a state, I call them and say, get off the voter rolls. 00:05:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, get me off the voter roll That in. 00:05:02 Speaker 1: Florida and Illinois. 00:05:03 Speaker 3: But even if you've made a mistake, you forgot to do that and you reregistered, just don't vote in both places, that's illegal. That's illegal. Uh, if you get reregistered in the new place that you go register and then vote where you live, right, vote where you're going to be. Had somebody just reach out to me today and they said, Tyler, I'm in Wisconsin. I'm moving to Arizona. Which state should I vote? And I said, it doesn't really matter because as long you need you in both and either one is like the two most port states in the country, probably, But if you do get here, and he said, moving here in August, me and my fiance are moving, how do I do it? I said, just get registered right away and you'll be fine, and you can vote here in Arizona. But if you don't, then your ballot is going to be in Wisconsin. Potentially you need to go back and vote. 00:05:43 Speaker 1: So then let's say you're going to a big barbecue this weekend. Yep, I mean Chicago, it's a big deal. Phoenix, it's more I don't know, nighttime. 00:05:50 Speaker 3: Hey, we pulled, we pulled Q. Yeah, they barbecue by the pole. Yeah, that's beautiful. So what we do is we we grill inside the house and then we go outside and in the pool. Yeah. 00:06:03 Speaker 1: So let's say you're going to a friend's house. They got thirty or forty people blake? What should they do? What should they wear? You're going to a barbecue, it's a pro American celebration. What does that look like? 00:06:12 Speaker 2: What does a pro American meaning? 00:06:14 Speaker 1: What does how? How does one work that party for the betterment of the country. 00:06:19 Speaker 2: Well, it's like this one do one. It helps if you're willing to wear the hat. 00:06:23 Speaker 1: Wear the hat right now, everybody, right now, this should be the day to wear the Maga hat. Yeah, there's ever a day. It is today. 00:06:30 Speaker 3: Following that debate, that's going to be a lot of. 00:06:33 Speaker 5: Discussion and then like it's it's gonna come up. People will talk about it. People like you know, you can maybe wait for someone if they have like the wrong beer brand and people start raising them for it, you. 00:06:42 Speaker 2: Can you can use that as an opportunity. 00:06:44 Speaker 1: Always find little yeah ways in there will be a chance where it will come up, and then you can find you can kind of de do so if someone as sympathetic. 00:06:52 Speaker 2: If you didn't know already, so. 00:06:53 Speaker 3: You say, don't bring the wrong beer brand. 00:06:55 Speaker 5: Yeah you do, yeah, and then if it happens, then you can follow up. 00:07:00 Speaker 2: Are you registered? If they are not registered? Can I help you register? 00:07:04 Speaker 1: And then right now the app comes in handy and. 00:07:06 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people it's like they fear awkwardness. 00:07:09 Speaker 5: If you really put them on the spot and you're like, no, I can help you do it right now, they'll they'll probably they'll probably go. 00:07:14 Speaker 1: For it, especially if you're if you're kind of like browie about it, like, hey, come on, let's get this done. Oh you know it's July four. Yea, some flipping burgers like, okay, I'll fill it in, you know for you. Now, what are the laws are you allowed to fill it in for them? Or like what is the you can are you allowed to wear? Partisan you know, stuff. 00:07:30 Speaker 3: Like totally okay, Arizona is really loose. So is that right, Arizona? Most most states, there's no, there's really not a ton of laws around regsturants. 00:07:39 Speaker 1: It regulated it in recent years, right, well. 00:07:41 Speaker 3: The left has intentionally done that. 00:07:42 Speaker 1: It used to be you have to be an official voter registration person. 00:07:45 Speaker 3: Depends on the state, right, So it depends on the state. Florida's a little more hardcore bluer states. Historically we're a little bit more hardcore. Now they've opened it up where it's like same day registration. You don't need anything. But look, I mean this is why online that nobody knows who's doing it online, right, So you pull it up and you go to your online voter registration, which most states have and if they don't have it yet they will soon. You go right online, you register. You just have to have that ID ready. Like we said, they have to be a resident of that state. Typically they need a state ID if they don't have a driver license or a driver's license. However, they say in your state, you need to have one of the two of those things to be able to identify yourself as an actual resident. Once you input that, then you're good to go. And if you're in Arizona, Wisconsin, or Georgia and other places, this is a really easy process. Upload it, you're good to go. You're on the turning point system. Then if you go to tpaction dot com, slash vote, or you go to our app and you press the button within the application. 00:08:46 Speaker 1: How the data how many potentially sympathetic people are there in Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina that are not registered to vote? We bit our demographic profile. 00:09:00 Speaker 3: Talking hundreds of thousands, Charlie, We're talking literally maybe millions. No, in most cases in America, Uh, you know, there are substantial pockets of people who are not registered to vote. You've seen this personally when you go. You've gone to churches. You were at churches this weekend totally. You ask people who here's not registered to. 00:09:19 Speaker 1: Vote, and we were doing voter rege there. 00:09:20 Speaker 3: And we're doing voter rege there. We have teams that are are constantly doing this. But you go, you ask these groups of people who you would think, you know, they're a good community, but they go to church, right, they own guns, they own guns, they participate, they have kids that are in you know sometimes uh you know, really important activities, boy scouts, other things, and they're not registered to vote. And you know, Wisconsin, this is like a huge deal, is that Hunters are not registered to vote. In the South, we have evangelicals and church goers who are not registered to vote. Here in Arizona, we have a lot of transplants who move here from other places and they just don't reregister. So their voter registration is still in California or somewhere else, but they moved here as a conservative because they wanted to get out of California. Well, it only makes a difference if you show up and vote, because they're chasing the psychos who want to turn Arizona into California. They're chasing the crazies in Wisconsin who want to turn Wisconsin into Illinois. Right, So that is our big, biggest task is we've got to get people registered and willing to turn out to vote. And you've got to take it upon yourself then to make sure that person does vote. 00:10:26 Speaker 1: And that's step two. But right now is they got to be on the voting rolls and Blake from a conversational standpoint, how should one talk about this current race given the dynamics of the debate. 00:10:37 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Well, so I think it's it's worth remembering. 00:10:40 Speaker 1: You got to bring it up. 00:10:41 Speaker 2: You have to bring it up. 00:10:42 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think it helps that a lot of people who probably are not super who aren't really engaged with voting, they will get a lot of out of the sort of superficial like oh, Biden's a disaster, He's he's too old. 00:10:53 Speaker 2: He can't play into. 00:10:54 Speaker 1: That, play into that, reinforce it like get because people need to hear it from others too, and like, I think they'll be more susceptible to like the ridicule of it, like pointing out how ridiculous it is that they're doing this. 00:11:06 Speaker 5: You can compare it with the you know, the way they all lied about it for years, like oh yeah, the press covered this up for three years. 00:11:13 Speaker 2: Basically that Biden could not do all of these things. 00:11:15 Speaker 5: And now they're all admitting it and they've lied about it, and they're just thinking people won't pay attention and won't vote. 00:11:21 Speaker 2: Based on this. 00:11:22 Speaker 5: But you can counter at by registering with me right now. And you don't need to say it that way, but normal people who don't vote super actively are going to be more open to arguments that are based on just these like. 00:11:34 Speaker 1: This is by far and we have to go to break here. This is going to be the most potential right wing July fourth we've ever lived through, where like the left is the most ashamed. Yes, lean into at everybody as you get your hot dogs, your burgers, and your celebration ready this July fourth, tpaction dot com slash vote, So Tyler, let's go through. In twenty twenty, Donald Trump, despite everything thrown at him, fell ten thousand votes short in Georgia, ten thousand votes short in Arizona, eleven thousand ish, you know in Georgia, ten thousand Arizona, and twenty two thousand in Wisconsin. Can we get this audience to register forty two thousand new voters this weekend easily? 00:12:14 Speaker 3: I mean, think about how many people listen to the show. 00:12:16 Speaker 1: Millions. 00:12:16 Speaker 3: We've literally have millions of people that this show touches every week. You know, we've had tens of billions. 00:12:22 Speaker 1: Even if just forty two thousand people ushured one voter. 00:12:24 Speaker 3: That's it. You just got to resiterre one person. And that's the big story is. Do not be thinking, oh, I have to register ten people or twenty people or my entire neighborhood. No, you need to register that one person, your kid who is going to be that is seventeen turning eighteen before the election. You have a spouse that may have just become disillusioned or just too busy. You know, there's people plenty of people with spouses that just work really hard and they're like, ah, I'm just I'm so over it. Right. You have family members, extended family members. Some of us have senior family members who have moved because they've retired, and they just have said, you know what, I'm just going to spend all my time on the beach, or I'm just going to spend all my time in the lake, or I'm just going to spend all my time in the country club or on the golf chorus, and I'm not going to worry about anything else, including voting. All of these instances, plus so many more have to be looked at, and it's just one person in your family, is one neighbor, one friend, That's it. 00:13:18 Speaker 1: And that force multiplying effect is profound huge, So Blake, Now, do we want to run against Biden? 00:13:26 Speaker 2: Oh that's an interesting question. 00:13:27 Speaker 3: You know. 00:13:29 Speaker 5: I feel like we do in the sense that we know we can beat him at this point, and why introduce uncertainty where if they replace him could blow up in their face and we get a big land. 00:13:39 Speaker 1: You believe we can beat him at this point? 00:13:40 Speaker 2: You say we know we can, I mean, I don't say we're going to win one hundred percent. Obviously, that's why we're doing all of this. 00:13:46 Speaker 1: Yes, but we have a good shot. 00:13:48 Speaker 5: We have a very good shot. We know he is we know he is weak, We have evidence he will get weaker. The party is all divided, they're flipping out. They'll have to I mean, assuming he's still running as the time people are hearing this. But like, we know we can beat them, we know it's doable. We're up in the polls, we have all the ingredients we need to win. So why introduce uncertainty with a new candidate that the press can spin in. 00:14:12 Speaker 2: A new way and people might go along with it or not. 00:14:16 Speaker 5: I think it's good as long as the Democrats are freaking out and fighting with each other, and they're doing that with Biden so well. 00:14:21 Speaker 3: And I'll say this on top of it. The one thing that twenty twenty proved for the Democrats is that they can work with chaos. And the chaos that they that proliferated because of how they lean so far into COVID made it possible for them to start tolling at strings and doing things that really change the face of our elections. And so your point is exactly right. Giving them more opportunity to promote chaos right ahead of the election gives the Democrats more organizational They have the organizational prowess, more more ability to do that again. And we shouldn't allow that. We shouldn't allow that, and you know, Jack put out some tweets that said that, yeah, we shouldn't allow it. Yeah, they need to move forward and stick with what the American public yeah wanted, which was Biden on the ballot, and I think Republicans should support that and try to prevent chaos as much as possible. 00:15:19 Speaker 5: You know, Uh, it's kind of funny that there's this assumption that, like, they can't swap out for Kamala because she's brutally unpopular and will be even less popular than Biden. But like Biden's approval numbers are really really low, like substantially below Kamala, substantially below Hillary Clinton at her worstuff. 00:15:38 Speaker 2: People really do not like Brandon at this point. 00:15:41 Speaker 1: And by the way, Trump called him Brandon. Did you guys catch that. 00:15:44 Speaker 3: I think he was referring to Brandon, who is the. 00:15:47 Speaker 1: Oh Brandon Judge jud got it, but everybody, But it was kind of funny because everyone thought he was referring to him as Brandon, but he was talking about Brandon. Judge just called Brandon as he was saying, Yeah, so I I want your take on this. So watching the debate, I was quarantined off to the side, like watching myself. We knew Biden did bad, but I don't think he did as bad as some of his other gaffs that we in conservative media cover on a daily basis. Would you agree with that? 00:16:17 Speaker 2: I don't. It was pretty bad. 00:16:19 Speaker 5: I think the mumbling over, you know, beating medicare that's in the time. 00:16:23 Speaker 2: I think that was moments for sure. There's been a few other ones. 00:16:27 Speaker 5: There's definitely been the one where like when he gets lost kind of wandering all around the Rose Garden, I think was one of them. 00:16:33 Speaker 1: But I'm saying most Americans never saw the other like this is their first exposure. This is the propagandast network that is the mainstream media. 00:16:41 Speaker 3: But this is the great talking about for fourth of July. Right, It's like, if you thought that was bad, you should. 00:16:46 Speaker 1: Start No, That's what I'm saying. You should realize this is a pattern. 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I didn't respond back in the chat on that, but I was gonna say. 00:19:42 Speaker 1: It's not the craziest idea. 00:19:43 Speaker 3: Right, She's already there, she has the last name. I really think that if you took a public poll of that, people would be very upset. 00:19:52 Speaker 1: How are they not upset about what's going on right now? 00:19:54 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That they like the puppeteering. I mean, they don't realize the puppeteering, right, they get away with it. If that came out in public, that would be almost I almost think that would be worse than Kama. 00:20:06 Speaker 1: There's this great Wall Street journal piece I have to read from here by Gerard Baker, who's very very fair. It's this the Democrats gaslet and deceived us for four years, all in the name of democracy, that collapsed on Thursday. There is something fitting about the disarray in which the Democrat Party finds itself, a fearful symmetry in the now fraught relationship between President Biden and panicking friends and colleagues. Biden succeeded because he made towing the party line his life's work. Like all politicians who egos dwarf their talents, he ascended the greasy poll by slavishly follow slavishly following his party wherever it led. The seventies and eighties, Democrats were party of post Vietnam peacenick activists, so he followed them for that. And in the nineties they were tough on crime, so we followed them on that. After nine eleve of the party fell in behind George W. Bush, And of course Biden was right there too, leaning from the middle, back in the War on Terror and the invasion of a Rock. So it goes onto this and finally, but now eighty one years in, things have gone horribly wrong. Much of his party has no use for him anymore. They're trying to desperately jettison him and, in a remarkably cynical act of bait and switch, swap him out for someone more useful to their cause. Do you think they're gonna. 00:21:18 Speaker 3: Pull by the ultimately, I mean, we've gone through this week. We talked about this length on thought crime. I just don't know where they would go unless they have a plan that has been set in motion already for months and months, which it doesn't seem that that's the case. 00:21:34 Speaker 2: There is no plan. 00:21:35 Speaker 1: I just with people are still saying all this chaos is intentional. You are so run. 00:21:39 Speaker 3: This is a bad look when you don't have a plan in place. It's really hard to herd cats, right, It's really hard to get everybody on the same page. And even if it was someone like Michelle Obama, which you know, it is almost super transparent that this is not herm you know, that's why Obama came right out and was like Joe's good, right, Like Joe's part of the Obama control mechanism. I just don't I just don't see how this ends well at all, trying to swap him out. Every everything points to the direction of leaving him in, even without you know, brain function is probably going to be the best bet for them, and then they can blame him, by the way, and to that point, they can blame him for a long time. 00:22:24 Speaker 1: I mean, I hear that, Blake, are they going to give up the White House? That easily? Not saying that we automatically win. But the odds are not in there. I mean they're they're they're sub fifty percent right now. I still for sure. 00:22:36 Speaker 2: It's it's really crazy to think about that. 00:22:38 Speaker 5: We've never in really our lifetimes had a presidential election where a presidential election where a Republican is up in. 00:22:46 Speaker 2: The polls in a big way. 00:22:48 Speaker 1: But I mean, look, I mean the last time there was a sacrificial lamb was John McCain Obama. Yeah, that was the last time where it's like it wasn't competitive. Get the old guy in line, we're done. 00:22:58 Speaker 2: Even then, I think they tried pretty genuinely to win that one. 00:23:02 Speaker 1: They're gonna try with by Yeah, say, but how about George McGovern in four. 00:23:09 Speaker 2: Right, I guess, yeah, I mean or Mondale and yeah, I don't know. 00:23:13 Speaker 3: The Clinton. Yeah, the Clinton Dole election was pretty that's pretty ugly. Yeah, ninety six, ninety six was ugly. It was like that was really that you know, old guys. 00:23:29 Speaker 1: So it's nineteen seventy two at McGovern Yeah, yes. 00:23:30 Speaker 3: The ninety sixth election was like Clinton's pretty popular. Perro's at it again. You know, Bob Dole is just like the next man up. He deserves this, like he has to be the nominee because they's so well respected and just old bull type stuff. I think that's the last time and this is and you know what, there there are a lot of comparisons maybe between Trump and Clinton on our side and Bob Dole and Joe Biden. 00:24:01 Speaker 1: The So at what point this will be the entry I'm tyler, I'm faceted on your take here. At some point that we are going to have a bottom up crisis where the diego's that Jackie Rosens and the Tammy baldwins. If Biden keeps on descending, they're the ones that are gonna either so distance themselves or demand a new candidate. Can you talk about that? 00:24:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're going to have to start demanding a new candate publicly in Wisconsin and Arizona and you know other places. You know, you can already see some of that, you know, circling the wagons happening in Michigan where they're like, holy guacamole, like, we're not we don't have nearly the same type of support that we did organically, And like again sixteen revealed this, right because they thought organically they could just wipe the floor with Trump and Trump just won't go away. 00:24:55 Speaker 1: Well, what I'm saying is that, for example, let's take Arizona. If Carrie Lake gets within i mean she's than two points right now, oh yeah, in the latest tracking poll, if she's like tied her up on Gego, all. 00:25:06 Speaker 3: It takes is Trump then to win by more than five for her to have a real shot, right like for her too, for the manipulated shot that because again I'm not saying that we don't believe in Carrie. We love Carry. 00:25:18 Speaker 1: Believe it, Trump will outperform Carry. That is a factor. 00:25:21 Speaker 3: They're gonna come to Arizona not campaigning on behalf of Joe Biden. At this point, it's gonna be trying to just squeeze in Reuben Diego do Trump voters, which is just gonna be like they're just gonna be like, just vote for Ruben. You don't have to worry about anything. Else, don't care if you vote for Trump. This is what they do. This is what they did with Mark Kelly. 00:25:37 Speaker 1: No, no, I'm just saying that is a huge, like victory for the Trump campaign. 00:25:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is the reason why they're nervous, right, because it's like, we gotta win by enough to pull to combat that, which I think we totally can't that the work that we're doing here in Arizona. 00:25:53 Speaker 1: I mean, I hope we win by one, but I mean I have no idea. 00:25:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean, but we're gonna have to do everything we possibly can through the kid just sink at the left to win. But this is again Eric Hovedy in Wisconsin. 00:26:04 Speaker 1: Saying, all of a sudden, these incumbent senate Democrats where their whole life, They're gonna get sunk by Biden. Do you hear what I'm saying here, Blake? But this could get wildly out of control of them, because think about this. If Trump survives July eleventh, which is a week from today, July eleventh, the sentencing will the week after that, his numbers are gonna skyrocket because it's the RNC, and I think it's gonna be a great production. You have full monopolization. You have a really good look for the party. It's gonna be great. We'll be there in Milwaukee, be doing our show. So you're looking at early August. Then the Olympics happen and everyone forgets about politics for like two weeks basically, and trouble campaign. So you basically post the last bad thing on the calendar will be sentencing for Trump. You're looking at a baked cake until the DNC, which is the next opportunity they have to do the combat kid narrative in mid August. Is that enough time to bring his numbers back? Because presidential politics move at a glacial. 00:26:57 Speaker 2: Pitot the other way, that's enough time for him to like meaningfully decay even more. 00:27:02 Speaker 1: No, seriously, though, think about that, that's a good point. 00:27:04 Speaker 2: He looks, I mean, he looks substantially worse than he did at the State of Union on PERC No. 00:27:08 Speaker 1: I mean, so, so is he gonna be what will he be like health wise by Chicago? 00:27:13 Speaker 5: And what's crazy is they one more time and it's like all over. He basically can't have another really bad moment. He can't have a major speech. 00:27:22 Speaker 1: No, I think he mumbles through even if it's not on a big state. 00:27:24 Speaker 2: And supposedly he's gonna get through another debate in September. 00:27:27 Speaker 3: So he's gonna have to he's gonna have to disappear. But Charlie, to your point, think about this, Think about those people start pulling out of the DNC convention. Think of, oh, oh, I'm. 00:27:37 Speaker 1: So so Diego doesn't show up, or Jackie Rosen doesn't show up, or Tammy Baldwin doesn't show up, or Senator Casey doesn't show up. 00:27:45 Speaker 3: One of those people is not going to show up. One of those people is not gonna speak at the DNCS. 00:27:49 Speaker 1: Fascinating stuff though, or Ken all Red doesn't show but he's not gonna win anyway, But all but these but these or John Tester doesn't show. 00:27:56 Speaker 3: Up, Oh yeah, oh yeah, for sure. But one of those people, well at least, is not gonna show up. A lot of them may not show up. They may go I mean again, this is where a lot of you know, conspiracy theorists start diving in and start going. 00:28:11 Speaker 7: Something's gotta give here, Like they're gonna like shut down the like there's gonna be some kind of like massive like uprising or like controlled like burn of like Chicago. 00:28:22 Speaker 3: That's gonna shut down the whole convention, So then people have an excuse not to come. Like something's like this is where everybody's talking about this because like to your point, Charlie is exactly right, these people aren't gonna want to have any proximity to Joe Biden. By that point, the I. 00:28:37 Speaker 1: Was just looking at this amazing rally head in Virginia, which is so smart. He did it in southern southern Virginia, right near the North Carolina border, and it just like trolled. It was a very smart movie because it. 00:28:46 Speaker 5: Was like campaigning in North Carolina state, but it's really shoring. 00:28:50 Speaker 1: But then he trolled the left and Youngkin gave a great speech and it's really great because the left is now pouring money into Virginia because of this. That's super smart, right. It was right on the bat I speak, is like right on the bord d. You know, I had more North Carolina attendees than Virginia attendees. It's like it was actually. 00:29:04 Speaker 5: Okay, like control maximally hard to a rally in like Tahoe, and it's really like reno. 00:29:08 Speaker 1: Oh no, that's what I'm saying. Know, you go to Washoll County. But it's kind of also California. Yeah, and so it's it's great. So the the when the lower So let's talk about the House. Kee Jeffries is supposed to for sure take the House. If that starts to get be put in jeopardy after all, the speaker Johnson McCarthy, nonsense, what what does that look like, Tyler Blake? I mean, how do they navigate this atmospherically? 00:29:34 Speaker 3: Well, let's think about the places that the Republicans are most at risk for the House. Okay, So the Democrats are expecting to take back seats in New York and California, right, right, So they're expecting that they had a rewrite of districts in Georgia, which doesn't change much. Uh, They there's a couple that can be picked off in other places that they were hoping for, like Lauren but Robert seat in Colorado, like one in Arizona, one or two in Arizona. They're hyper targeting. But I mean, look outside of that, there's not a ton of places where for them to pick up seats. So the question is you look at these deeper blue areas where the Left isn't investing as much California, New York, for example, and you basically have a repeat of twenty twenty two because of the Joe Biden narrative. Yeah, I mean you're putting them at potential risk of not having the House, and even worse, a House that's controlled either by the Freedom Caucus again or by the or by our good friend AOC. 00:30:40 Speaker 1: So the latest poll from Pennsylvania signal see y g NA L. I don't are they a right leaning firm. I think they're pretty fair right. 00:30:50 Speaker 3: They're towards the middle, but I think they're center left. 00:30:53 Speaker 1: Has Trump up four in Pennsylvania post debate, Yeah, outside of the margin of error in this poll. Yeah, and both with multiple candidates To your point, actually multiple candidates does not help or hurt Donald Trump in Pennsylvania. So there's actually when multiple candidates are there, some of them break down and into other constellations. I still think more candidates help because turn out. You're not going to see that reflected with higher turnout, do you agree? 00:31:16 Speaker 3: And more candidates is really important too, and not just this race. Bell Harder races harder to chase, So the Democrats can't chase when there's multiple case, when. 00:31:23 Speaker 1: It's binary it's like, Okay, just get them in this bucket or that bucket. But all of a sudden you start knocking on doors of twenty eight year old women and they're like, well, I think I like that RFK guy. They're like no, like thirty seconds. 00:31:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I just think this. 00:31:34 Speaker 5: Actually, all these bad polls almost make it. It's almost like more likely they'll just have to stick with Biden because well, if they blow up right now, they can just say Biden is weak because he's old. But like the parties otherwise united, if you throw out Biden and try to like replace Kamala, now there's a party civil war, and that's how you risk hold blown out. 00:31:52 Speaker 1: By the way, McCormick is within the margin of air of Casey in Pennsylvania. Yeah, he was down twelve points a month. Ag go, he's within the margin of error in the latest poll in Pennsylvania. Download the app Get to work, Less Beer more voters. Blake, do you want to incorporate what you're gonna were talking? I mean it's very important to one of the questions here. 00:32:15 Speaker 5: Oh sure, sure, sure, Uh well uh obviously we had Joshua who said, how do you and your team celebrate the fourth of July. Sometimes it feels like Americans get too frivolous with the festivities. It feels like we forget the Fourth of July should make us want to work harder, not just have fun. 00:32:32 Speaker 1: What do you guys, did I write that question? 00:32:34 Speaker 2: I guess jed. 00:32:35 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I spend time in the sun, go for a long walk. Then once it gets me like one hundred fifteen, I go inside and then I have ice cream, one thing of ice cream. I only have dessert twice a year. That is one of the. 00:32:46 Speaker 5: Things all we're gonna say is the founding fathers were not grilling on the original Fourth of July, were putting in work. 00:32:53 Speaker 1: But eventually John Adams had this beautiful essay. 00:32:56 Speaker 3: You know this. 00:32:56 Speaker 1: He said that the fourth of July will be celebrated with cannons being fired and fireworks and huge celebrations, So they give you a green light to celebrate. Yeah, well, it is a day that I support people to go a little bit crazy. 00:33:09 Speaker 3: I eat as much ice cream as you do in a year in about twenty four hour period with my kids, so I don't share that. But I do celebrate salting like a really great room temperature steak. It's the best, and you just salt it all day long. Just salt and pepper. That's it. Let us sit out, grill it to perfection, get it right at that. You know what we call rare plus, you know right there? Yeah, bleeds a little bit, and then you go a red share of voter. 00:33:37 Speaker 1: I will be around a lot of voters, and I'm more of the maga hat all day long, all day long. 00:33:42 Speaker 5: Here here's another one you might like, Jorge, are there any facts about the fourth of July or the history of America's founding? 00:33:48 Speaker 2: You wish more people knew? 00:33:51 Speaker 1: And actually wasn't on July fourth, you know that one. It was actually July sex second, yep, is actually the true founding. 00:33:59 Speaker 3: Is just wait, wait for that signature. 00:34:00 Speaker 1: That's right, And so July fourth was when all the signatures were complete. Thomas Jefferson's age when he wrote it was super young. He was like twenty six or twenty seven. 00:34:10 Speaker 3: Most of them are very young. 00:34:11 Speaker 1: They're super young. There's only one Catholic to know who was from Maryland. I'm gonna stomp them again. Charles Carroll, you should call Blake. You got to charp enough, keep on running the point is this, we know, you know a. 00:34:23 Speaker 2: Lot people, such a very good Catholic. 00:34:25 Speaker 1: If I return, I know anything that Blake doesn't know, that's fair question, that's fair. 00:34:28 Speaker 3: Well, good Catholics would have stayed in Europe. 00:34:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably. 00:34:33 Speaker 1: He was from Maryland. 00:34:33 Speaker 3: You're right, I'm just I'm just having Catholic. 00:34:36 Speaker 1: Or how about fifty years after July fourth? Both of all the things, both Adams and Jefferson both died on the same day, fifty years to the day after the signing of the declaration. That is crazy, that's that's I think that's eighteen twenty six. 00:34:51 Speaker 3: That's god stuff. 00:34:52 Speaker 1: July fourth, eighteen twenty six. Yeah, or what else you got? 00:34:55 Speaker 5: Let's see, Uh, with all the negative news, what are some things you still love about America? Obviously there's a lot of serious ones, But is there a fun thing you still really love about America? 00:35:06 Speaker 1: I still love that I have not found this anywhere else in the world, that there's a subset of crazy entrepreneurs in this country. I think that's really cool. I think that there's a small group of ballsy risk takers that are willing. 00:35:19 Speaker 2: To do it. 00:35:20 Speaker 5: Really is when you read like threads on the internet where they ask foreigners, what do you notice about America. One of the things they talk about is America has this insane go. 00:35:29 Speaker 2: Getter energy where they're like, yeah, let's. 00:35:31 Speaker 1: Go do that thing. I mean, and that's what we're doing, like go out registered voters. Don't just complain like it's not in the in the France, they're like, I don't understand me work like I just I do what I'm told. Like it's such a foreign concept. Yeah, I've not found that replicated anywhere around the world. Maybe I'm wrong, I just haven't. 00:35:48 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 00:35:49 Speaker 1: What else do I love about America? I mean, I love football. 00:35:51 Speaker 2: I like free refills. No one, no one else does that. 00:35:54 Speaker 1: They don't do that. 00:35:55 Speaker 2: And they don't have free refills. You don't. 00:35:56 Speaker 5: You don't get no, you don't even get like you get you don't get free real fills. And if you get water, it's like a little tiny thing and there's no ice in it. 00:36:05 Speaker 2: It's yeah, total atrocity. 00:36:07 Speaker 3: Ice in air conditioning is like an unbelievable Yeah, first. 00:36:12 Speaker 1: Air conditioning. They do not have air conditioning in Europe. And when I first experienced this, I went I stated a five star hotel ones in London. They know air condition they have like a like a little mini fan. It's it's unbelievable. 00:36:25 Speaker 3: It's uh yeah, the Europe is poor. 00:36:27 Speaker 1: No, no, no, they're environmental. That's a separate issue. These are in the nicest and they. 00:36:31 Speaker 2: Charlie, have to understand it. 00:36:32 Speaker 5: They ay more fun to call Europeans poor because they are. 00:36:35 Speaker 1: They're not that poor. The combined gdpeople of Europe is the same as America. 00:36:40 Speaker 2: But if you go like the UK's like, oh, we're such a rich country, and then they're like GDP per capita is lower than the poorest US state. 00:36:46 Speaker 1: Is that right now? 00:36:46 Speaker 6: The Europe sucks. 00:36:47 Speaker 1: Germany is not a poor country. 00:36:49 Speaker 2: It's not, but it's fun to say they are. 00:36:50 Speaker 1: Okay, Germany is like legitimately rich and they don't have air conditioning, they. 00:36:53 Speaker 3: Don't have taco bell that that plays right into the entrepreneurship. 00:36:58 Speaker 1: They can have it. 00:36:59 Speaker 3: The entrepreneurial though. I think it's incredible, like all of the ideas that come out of America that without those ideas the world would be like a shabby place. 00:37:08 Speaker 1: We used to have this, and Trump's trying to bring it back. I like that. We hate to lose. 00:37:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I love the confidence that Americas. 00:37:14 Speaker 2: I will never cheer for us in soccer. 00:37:16 Speaker 3: America has confident it's. 00:37:18 Speaker 5: Losing as more important because soccer unpopular. We must never allow soccer to become great in America. 00:37:23 Speaker 3: Well, good news, the American team lost to Panama like last week. 00:37:28 Speaker 1: Thank the Lord Panamamians. They invade our country into. 00:37:31 Speaker 2: The conception for anything else. Second hour coming up. 00:37:34 Speaker 1: Download the app today when you are at a grill, a barbecue, or whatever. 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Just go to yrefi dot com and tell them your friend Andrews sent you. Yes, it's July third, but it's a special July fourth episode. And I will tell you we have an absolute legend for you guys today, and that is, of course, doctor Larry Arne, President of Hillsdale College, one of Charlie's dearest friends and truly an icon of our age who runs one of the most important institutions in the country. Doctor Arned, Welcome back to the show. It's so good to have you. 00:39:10 Speaker 8: Good to be with you guys. You guys are like kids to me. I think of you as family. 00:39:17 Speaker 6: Thank you, sir. 00:39:18 Speaker 4: Well, we look up to you in some pretty incredible ways, and I think you deserve every ounce of our respect and admiration. 00:39:24 Speaker 6: And I can't think of. 00:39:25 Speaker 4: A better person to have on the show. As we look toward the two fiftieth anniversary of the creation of the United States of America, the greatest nation in the history of the world. 00:39:38 Speaker 6: What does this mean? 00:39:39 Speaker 4: What kind of accomplishment does this actually represent in the history of humanity? A self governing republic making it to two hundred and fifty years of age. 00:39:50 Speaker 8: Well, start with the fact that it's the first one that was never before. They made some radical innovation. As against England and the continent, and as against all previous political experience, they set out to devise a country that would be stable and strong and free and governed entirely by the consent of the government. Never before. If you read your Aristotle, he will tell you that the mixed regime is the only way, is the best way to get stability. And what is that regime. If you're an aristocrat, you get a special measure of power because of that. If you're the monarch, you get a special and then the many, the deems the democracy, they get some special power. Now it's everybody. And to make that happen, and to think that through and do it for the first time. And remember, the people who signed that document thought they were signing their death warrants. They thought they had no choice. One of the founders, and I'm not remembering the names of the two guys right now. It's in a movie we made lately called Revolutionary America. When I was fat and short, when I'm was tall, skinny, and the fat short one said to the tall, skinny one, you have the advantage of me. When they hang us, I'll die quickly. You might dangle for an hour. So that's how it began. And it's beautiful. 00:41:23 Speaker 4: It is beautiful, and it's special and it's precious. And you know, one of the reasons we want to celebrate two point fifty here on the show and in the country and make a big deal about it is because we believe that's the right interpretation and understanding of history and understanding of our country. 00:41:38 Speaker 6: You wrote a book, doctor arn. 00:41:41 Speaker 4: That I mean, I think you wrote this thirteen years ago, and it is just as critical for understanding our current moment as ever before, if not more so than when you wrote it. And that's the Founder's key subtitle is the divine and natural connection between the Declaration and the Constitution and what we risk by losing it. 00:42:04 Speaker 6: I have so many questions. Did you realize you were writing. 00:42:07 Speaker 4: Such a timeless book when you did this, did you hope that we would have made more progress by now and restoring that? But just give us the fundamental thesis of the case in the Founder's key. What is the argument you're making and why is it so important right now? 00:42:23 Speaker 8: Well, I I'm too busy to write long books or any books except things that last a long time, you know. In other words, if there's a if the Decorce to Independence was true when it was written, then it's true today. That's what it says. If it isn't true today, it wasn't true then. So the first step is to understand it. I set out to explain it. What do we mean by the laws of nature and Nature's God? What do we mean all men are created equal? What are these rights with which we are endowed? What are they? The second thing I tried to do was show that it's a very commanding document. It's a revolutionary document. It demands things of us, and one of the things that demands is the constitution, a constitution like ours. I wanted to show that those two documents are inseparable, there's overlap, and the people who wrote them and why are they and so there was At the time that I wrote the book, there was a scholarship still around, and it says the Declace Independence, we really like it. It's a very radical document. The Constitution comes along later and it's a conservative document. It differs in spirit from the Constitution. Well, what's the connection between the two documents? Apart from the overlapping people who wrote them. They come eleven years apart. The middle of the Decorace of Independence. The structure of the Decorace Independence. It's fourteen hundred words along a little less than that. You read it, it's really great. Read it and read it. The beginning is very universal, the end is very particular. We in this room pledged to each other our fortunes, lives, and sacred honor. In the middle are the reasons that justify the revolution, and those reasons are a list of things the King and Parliament have done to us. And those things include violating the separation of powers, which gives the structure to our constitution, Congress, courts, the executive. Another is failures of representation. He has not respected our elected rulers. He himself is mented. Thomas Jefferson writes in seventeen seventy four in a sentence that I've always loved. It's sort of the American spirit. It's sort of Charlie Kirk spirit too. The last paragraph of this essay, called a Summary Review of the Rights of British North America, begins, let not those let those flatter who fear sire, It is not an American art. And then he goes down to say, you and your ministers are servants. Well, he ad violated that which is the consent of the government. And so the point is just think backwards. If it's a cause for rebellion that these high principles of constitutionalism are violated, then we need a constitution that doesn't violate them. And ours was so devised. It has changed in some ways that I think very regrettable. And what I'm miss is the Congress doesn't make the laws anymore, and they, you know, it's made in a permanent administrative state, which by the way, is Supreme Court case. Just affirm that the president can fire those guys, which is very good, because it's not that I like the president better than the bureaucrats. Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. It's that we elect the president. He has the consent of the government behind him. So you see, the Constitution is implied by the declaration. And remember when I say that it's a revolutionary document, is also a challenged document because it says, if you behave in this way towards your fellow man, you are in the right, and if you do not, you are in the wrong. And that means that it requires of us that we live a certain way and govern ourselves a certain way. And that's why the document is so revolutionary, because think of this crazy thing. If I ask you, you're an educated man, what is the birthday of Great Britain or France or China. It's kind of hard to say, isn't it. Those days they developed over time, those countries long periods of time. By the way, we have a birthday, there was a day July the third, seventeen seventy six, and there was no United States of America, and then the next day there was one. It's our birthday. And the document that constitutes the birthday gives the reasons for the country and how it should be governed in fewer than fourteen hundred words. That's pretty good. 00:47:23 Speaker 4: That is pretty good, Well said doctor on. You have a way of putting things that makes you see them from a whole new vantage point. Hang right there, Doc John will be right back with you. 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No, I think one of my great teacher in life I had too, one of his named Harry Jaffa, and he's writing a beautiful book called Crisis in the House Divided. In nineteen fifty six, he wrote that book and in a key chapter he says, it is the hope that inspires, that is inspired and is inspired by the Declaration of Independence, of opportunity for all, that provides the energy to America. Hope right. America is a challenge. I grew up in Pocontas, Arkansas, and my dad was a school teacher. He never made any money to speak of. Somehow I grew up thinking I could do anything, and you know, I did a few things right. And look at Charlie's career. Charlie is seventeen and eighteen years old and he gets this idea and he starts sleeping on people's sofas, and he builds a great organization. Who told him he could do that? Right? He just thought he could. And that's America. Other countries do not have that in the same measure because they don't begin the way we begin, and they're not organized the way we are. The danger to the country. You didn't like the birth light citizenship decision, nor did I very much did not like it. But that's partly because they don't. They've missed the point. The reason you're a member, you're a subject of England or France if you're born there, is because you are subjects. You're here, you're born here, you are responsible to the king. The King tells you right here you are a citizen. It requires an active step, and the active step is either two people who are citizens, or one give birth to you an implicit obligation of citizenship to raise your child to know and support his country, or you take the legal steps that are necessary to attest to it. Just born here does it in America. It can make you a subject wherever you're born. It can't make you a citizen. And that's another thing that's so hopeful and wonderful about the Declaration of Independence, so important about it. Right, any nobody can be an important American. But America is a set of practices and beliefs, and one must subscribe to those. You know, the citizenship today tests today that is administered to at least millions of people, one hundreds of thousands for sure every year. It actually is excellent. And what it requires them to do is to commit to the principles of the nation and the laws of the nation, and those principles. See, remember we are responsible for those, We are the source of the immediate laws, and our entitlement to do that is under laws that no one makes except God, under the laws of nature and of Nature's God. And that you see that that system, it's Lincoln says very beautifully. Once, well, I'll tell you about Lincoln. Lincoln never gave didn't give an important speech on the fourth of July in his life, which is an oddity. But on the tenth of July eighteen fifty eight in Chicago, he gave one of the greatest speeches anybody ever gave. And here's a I'll paraphrase the speech for you. He says, we get together on this day and we celebrate the greatness of our country. It's grown so much, it's so big, there's so many of us. We produce so much, we grow, we build awesome, he says. But then we and we look back to those fathers who built through that course of independence, and we think that they were iron men. I've always loved that. I can almost hear Lincoln say, iron man. Then we see a problem because we don't really come from us from them. Many of us have come from other places. And later we are not blood of the blood and flesh of the flesh of the father who came before us. You're the Bible, then, he says. But then we look at the Declaration and we see what it says, and it says that all men are created equal. Said, that is the electric cord. He said, that unites the hearts of liberty loving men everywhere on earth. That is the father of all moral principle in us. You see, and remember there's a direct appeal to God as he is known through faith and through reason in that document. It begins with that. That is the authority under which they risked their lives. And remember what they did to England, right, It was nobody took them seriously and they thought the cause was probably hopeless when they started. Right, what they did was take a territory away from George the Third, that was a large at that time, as the Roman Empire at its peak. That's what a victory they want, and they want it in the name of these things. You see those soldiers at Valley Forge, what were they thinking. They were thinking, these people can't tell us what to do. We have to live our lives, and we didn't elect them. That means that it was in the heart of everyone, and they suffered for it and died for it many. You see. That's inspiring. And you asked me what is the cause for hope. There is the cause for hope for our country. The ultimate cause for hope is God. The hope for our country is that set of arrangements that are unique to us. 00:55:47 Speaker 4: I love what you said, and I can't remember if you were quoting somebody, but you said it was the opportunity for all people that provides the energy to the country. And then you related that to Charge's own story. It's like nobody gave Charlie permission to build Turning Point. It was imbued into his character, into his spirit by an underlying understanding of his relationship to the country, his relationship to God. And so he went out and he took it and he built it. And yeah, I think that is the single most hopeful thing I've heard anybody say about the country, actually at its most fundamental level. I want to talk to you about an issue so many Americans faith, and that's health insurance. 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It's an innately wicked country, and this is a platform that can win a primary, that can win an election, that can win almost half of Congress. 00:58:37 Speaker 2: It seems what can we do as a country, I think. 00:58:41 Speaker 5: To digest what we've taken into this and build a coalition that actually continues to admire the Declaration and the Constitution as what you argue are basically divinely driven documents to keep America the blessed country that it is. Because it seems a lot of people are very eager to disavow that, and it's going to be a great struggle. 00:59:05 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, well yeah, so how to answer that? You might even say it's the vulnerability of the country that it's founded with an argument. You know, these are the propositions, and this is why we're doing what we're doing. So what if people come not to believe those propositions anymore? What will happen. That's death itself. I think that in American history there have been many, many challenges to the ideas and the decoration independence among Americans. The two main ones are the Civil War and now. And what was the doctrine of the Civil War. It was the idea that men are not born free, They evolve. Some evolve faster than others. Those to evolve faster should rule those others. You can identify those who've evolved farther and those who've evolved not so far by the color of their skin. God dehumanizing that is, because skin and color is essential to the human being. Then that means the soul, which needs to be an immaterial thing and the motivator of the whole being of the human being, is not the thing. And if the thing doesn't have matter, it doesn't have color. So there's that that's a fundamental thing right among us today is something akin to that. It's the idea that we can master nature. You have to start with the mature version of this doctrine, which is in German historicism, and that idea is that everything changes with time, and our societies change with time, and what is true in one time is not true in another time. And our time is the compelling thing, our situation, our context, where we live, how we work. In Marks, it's the tools we use to produce. In Hegel, it's more general than that. And so we're victims of our time. Except they write, because human evolution is going to a place at the end of history, we can at last see and command the whole process ourselves. We can get control of the process of history. That's how natural science comes in. It gets converted into not a way of knowing, but a way of manipulating, and we can re engineer the society. The progressives in America, John Dewey and Woodrow Wilson and Herbert Crowley and Frank good Now are my favorites. What they write is we've reached a new stage of history. The Constitution is an outdated mechanism. Now remember I have said that under the terms of the Decoration, the structure of the Constitution of the United States, which is the most important thing about it, is dictated by the laws of nature and Nature's God. That is to say, it's an eternal claim that this is the right way to make a constitution, just like the Declaration makes an internal claim about the right way, we should be governed govern ourselves. So they say that now we have new truths and we can use the tools of modern science in public policy to perfect the society, which is effectively saying that we can be our own creators. We can replace God, we can remake everything. A little illustrated that there's a Frank Goodnow my favorite passage in the whole corpus. These guys, by the way, are technical writers. To to get the cadence of the decorations of independence into oneself is to encounter beauty simply lovely. You know, it makes you want to write like that hard to do. If you read these guys, you're reading like Emmanuel for putting a tool together or something very technical. Right. But good Now says he was a teacher all his life. He is founder of the American Political Science Association. He says, we teachers take ourselves too seriously. Sometimes we think that we're teaching the students things that will direct their lives. No economic conditions that prevail in the future will decide what they think. So it's not the student and not the teacher, but the situation in the future will govern what we think. Well, what do you do about that. How do you escape that slavery of being controlled by the conditions around you? The answer is, get control all of the conditions, make the society according to your own will. Then you can control everything. You can be the maker of all that. That argument is elaborated in a wonderful book by c. So It's called the Abolition of Man. Well, look what's happened to the government since those doctrines gained this way that they have which is not complete but extensive. In nineteen thirty these ideas first got a political majority in America in the nineteen thirty two election for the election of Franklin Roosevelt. And he was not entirely a bad man, by the way, but he thought these things well in nineteen thirty. If you look at the census of nineteen thirty statistical abstract in the United States, you will see that the government of the United States, all government, state, federal, and local, was about twelve percent of the gross domestic product. Now, if you count the regulatory cost, that's a little over fifty percent. That's an enormous adjustment from the public, from the private to the public. The public is much stronger now, and the government is much more numerous in its body count, and it's what it controls is harder for us to control it. Right. Another thing that's changed. In nineteen thirty, over sixty percent of the money that was spent in the public sector was raised and spent inside the cities and counties and towns. Now that number is under twenty percent. The federal government in nineteen thirty was about twenty three percent. Now that number is mid sixties. Right, So we have made the government much larger is a percentage of the total pie, and we have centralized where the money is, and we now make our laws through administrative agencies, and we make many, many more than we used to be able to make. So the point is that's a crisis, and at bottom, it's a crisis of ideas. And because you guys want me to be hopeful, I will say that we know the solution. We should question those ideas, we should study the ideas against which they are opposed, and we should learn and then if we do that, we can pick intelligently between the claims. And there's nothing more important than than the restoration of civic education in America, which means human education. Findly, So if we do that, because If Thomas Jefferson is right and Aristotle is right for that matter, then they have the truth on their side, and that means those arguments will prevail better if they are made, because they have the advantage of being actually so. So there's the future. That's what we have to do. We can do it successfully or not. We all think things on earth ultimately pass away. Roman Empire passed away eight hundred years a long time. Everything on earth Christians think will pass away. But what do you do while it goes? The answer is what I just said. Understand the laws of nature and Nature's God. There's the salvation for our political system. 01:07:32 Speaker 5: Amen, doctor arn I think we want America to last as long as possible because it's been a great country. And I think the only way we can possibly do it is we have to make people love this country. And the best way to love it is to love what created it. I think that's where civic education comes in. 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Just go to yrefi dot com and tell them your friend Andrews sent you. All right, doctor arn This is the final segment of the Final Show, before we we welcome into fifty. I mean, we've got the Founder's Key, We've got Hillsdale, we've got Turning Point. There's so much we could talk about in this segment, But what do you think is the most important thing that we leave our audience with before they go. 01:09:16 Speaker 6: Into the weekend and the two fifty celebration. 01:09:19 Speaker 8: Well, they need to have a good day tomorrow. I should remember, by the way, at the time that we're talking two hundred and fifty years ago, the signing of the Declaration of Independence had already started. They didn't sign it all on the fourth. They would go in I think from the second to the fifth this while they signed it. So we're busy re enacting then their signing ceremony today. Yeah, you should have a good day tomorrow, and I would suggest that you read. We're having a big picnic at Hillsdale College for the whole community. We'll have hundreds of people here. We're giving them all hot dogs and hamburgers, which were, as you know, invented by the founding fathers as the national food. And they were not. 01:10:00 Speaker 2: Via It wasn't pizza. 01:10:02 Speaker 3: It wasn't pizza. 01:10:03 Speaker 8: No that game later. But that was an important benefit of immigration to America. There have been many benefits of immigration to America too. So we're going to have the patriotic readings we call them, and I've been reading them every decoration every July fourth since graduate school. And they should read the declaration should read it out loud. Then they should read the first two pages of Abraham Lincoln's July of the tenth, eighteen fifty eight speech in Chicago, with the electric cord in it. And they should remember then that our country was founded by iron men, and that they established principles that makes us blood of the flood and flesh of the flesh with those fathers, although we are not related to them except some of us. They can think about that, and then and then that I urged them they should embark upon a study of the proper arrangement of government, because that and the you know, yeah, things have causes, right in classic philosophy. Therefore things are made out of stuff. The cup is made out of glass. Somebody made them. Whoever made this cup? It has a form, well, it's it has a final cause. The final cause is to drink from it. That's the final cause of the cup. The final cause of the country is the protection of the inalienable rights of all of its people. And the cup has a form. The form is it's shaped like something you can pick up like that, if it's too hot, you can It's still got the handle that keeps it, you know. And then you drink from it. The form of the United States of America is provided by the Constitution of the United States. And you can't identify America unless you identify those things. And then people should embark on learning what they need. Why are they the way they are? What is the argument for them? What? Because we meet the argument against them every day. Right, you can't watch the news. One of the reasons people watch this show, thank god many do, is because they're not getting that standard stuff right. And and so you should put together in your mind forget about what anybody claims about it. Today. You want to understand the Constitution of the United States, read the Dectroici of Independence, Read the Constitution, and then read the Federalist Papers. We have an online course on those two. Those were written by the three guys who helped, you know, and and they helped make the Constitution, and they wrote those. By the way, the Federalist Papers is eighty five newspaper are published in New York in seventeen eighty seven eighty eight. Hamilton and Madison key to the writing of the Constitution, and John Jay first Justice Supreme Court, Chief Justice Supreme Court. Those guys wrote those papers, and they're written is newspaper articles to tell people how to vote, and you will see that they are beautiful. And that means that they were addressing a population that could read and think. And we need to get back to that right now. And you know you guys are hoping to do that. Charlie, our friend he called me up one day and said, I'm going to publish a book telling people not to go to college. And I said, you know, he knows what line of work I'm in, and I said, okay. He said, I'm going to exempt Hillsdale College. Oh, there you go. And I said, okay, you don't have to do that. He said, I have to do that. I had that's the one that you go to. So the point is, Charlie, why do you call me? Right? It's it's I love that boy? Why did I love him? He loved to learn. He's wanted so hard to get it right. I was just on a board call with the Claremont Institute, which I were I used to work and I'm on the board now and we were talking about one of our programs and what kind of people this is Within the last two hours, what kind of people should come to the program, And one guy said yeah, people who are going to get PhDs in college professors. Everybody said, yeah, that's really fine. And then Charles Kessler, who's the editor of the Claremont Review, said, well, one of the best students we ever had was Charlie Kirk. And he does not even have a college degree. And that boy learned. 01:14:54 Speaker 3: I remember. 01:14:56 Speaker 8: It, you know it just and Charlie, I'm the one who recommended him. I said, yeah, go do that thing right when I wrote him a letter for Charlie. 01:15:03 Speaker 4: Dr Arn and yeah, God bless you for that, dr Arn. We have to wrap it. This was amazing. Okay, we are like sponges when you teach us, and we are so grateful for your time. 01:15:14 Speaker 6: Dr Arne. God bless you. 01:15:16 Speaker 2: In happy two fiftieth bless you. 01:15:18 Speaker 8: Thank you you guys, Andrew Blake. 01:15:24 Speaker 2: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.