Charlie Debates the Students at the University of Texas

00:00:03 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie kirk I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start at turning point, you would say, college chapter. 00:00:33 Speaker 2: Go. 00:00:33 Speaker 1: Start at turning point you would say high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. Here I am Lord, Use me. Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. 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It takes courage to go to an event of people that you disagree with, so show them respect and give them an opportunity to kind of state their case if someone from the opposition goes there, So feel free to get in line guys if you want. And okay, question here. 00:02:07 Speaker 3: All right, howdy, Charlie, thank you for coming. I'm sure that all of us are so exact that you're here. Finally, so before I ask my question, I just got to say this. We need you to come to Texas A and M University. I know, I know that you're here at UT, but I'm not the only person that thinks that. Okay, So I don't remember if it was at SaaS twenty twenty two or at America Fest, but I remember you saying that UT Austin is the most leftist university you. 00:02:30 Speaker 1: Have ever visited. 00:02:32 Speaker 3: It's been a few years since you've been here, so, and I mean, you're gonna elaborate on this. 00:02:36 Speaker 1: Is that does that still prove true? 00:02:38 Speaker 2: I know you said uc. 00:02:39 Speaker 1: Ber Okay, so last time I was here that was something. I gotta tell you, we had like a cameraman get assaulted and it was all sorts of crazy stuff. That was four years ago. So I don't think this campus has gotten more conservative, but I think other campuses have gotten more liberal. So by process of elimination, you're no longer the most liberal school I've visited. So I guess you'll take it right. So no, but I will say this, though I'll repeat it. The administration coming in and allowing our dialogue to happen, hosting the event campus police, that's very good. I don't get that at every school. I gotta tell you, we got to fight for ever, for every single inch, and so that's good. I appreciate it. But I said this kind of out in the open when I was there. There's a lot of work to do here because some of the postmodern problem that I was hearing it has some very very serious implications. So the question, I guess is also liberal versus leftist. Right liberal. I'm fine with okay, Liberals like free speech, live and let live. Okay, fine, I'm not a liberal. Leftists really bother me. Leftists are the few people, not a lot, who came up today and they said, you don't have a right to be here. We want to kick you off campus. Okay, Leftists bother me. They're totalitarians and they should bother you too. Instead of having debate or dialogue, they resort to force, so they try to intimidate you with you know, threats, or they try to play music while you talk. So there's a difference between liberals and leftists, and I hope you Tee at least remains liberal and never becomes leftist in that regard. Thank you, appreciate you, Charlie. 00:04:15 Speaker 4: Hi, Charlie, I also want to say thank you so much for coming out here and speaking to us today. I have a question that's a little bit more political about transgenderism. So, as a parent, yourself what would you say to maybe a teacher who's pushing this agenda onto students, maybe even your daughter one day. 00:04:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, that person is a groomer who is a pervert and should not be in teaching to use their position in education to put forward radical, baseless, perverse gender queer theory on a five, six, or seven or eight year old. That is a I mean, I use the right descriptions right when I said that, not only does it have no place in education, the implications of that are quite obvious. And evidence after evidence after evidence is surfacing of parents telling kids now to I'm sorry, teachers telling parents, teachers telling kids not to tell their parents right, teachers coming in and saying, you know, do not repeat this. And if we're at a place in society where we can't remove pornographic images from kids textbooks, then we got a serious problem. And that's where we're at. I mean, if you're at seven, eight or nine years old, then you have this graphic graphic teaching. It really is. It shows a broader sickness. Why the why why why? Well, it's because the innocence of children is worthy of being protected and preserved. It's a moral good. The innocence of children is very important because they never get it back, and that period of childhood development where they are quote unquote as innocent as they can be, is important for them to find out their values. Who grow close to their parents, find out what's right and wrong. You know what ends up happening When the innocence of children is robbed, they're less likely to take risks and fail and learn who they are. Every study shows this. When a child's innocence is quote unquote rob you could use whatever graphic example you could imagine, then all of a sudden, are they Are they going to be as likely to You know, there's a great there's an old Hebrew proverb which is someone who's afraid of being embarrassed will never learn. It's a great Hebrew proverb, isn't it, which is they're going to be less likely to ask quote unquote the dumb question, might be more likely to be in their shell. I think there's something really fun and exciting of a five, six or seven year old that asks the wackiest questions you could imagine, because they're trying to explore truth. We want to destroy that. You never get that back once it's gone. There is no reversing it. And I think that's a very special thing. I think every you know, the kind of the beauty of what the West has been able to do is saying that those of us that are older and those of us that have some form of strength need to use that strength, I mean strength more collectively, not physical strength, use that to protect children that can't protect themselves. And then once they become to an age of informed consent we basically have that age around eighteen, then obviously they can you know, make more decisions themselves. But we're not even talking about eighteen. We're not even talking about fourteen. We're not talking about twelve. We're talking about five, six, and seven year olds. We're talking about the most moldible, impressionable ages, imaginable. Thank you for your question. 00:07:08 Speaker 5: I appreciate it, you know, Okay, Hi Charlie, I just want to open up by saying I am a leftist and I understand your perspective on this for being here, but I did want to hear you out today and well, you know, ask a question. So you said that you believe that quarantine is the cause of our generations like distraught essentially, and I believe that is actually war like. We were born fresh out of nine to eleven, some of us around the time of nine to eleven. 00:07:35 Speaker 2: And I don't know. 00:07:37 Speaker 5: My father served in Afghanistan, So I don't have a very keen perspective of the United States, let's say. But I didn't want to hear you out in what you had to say. And I do believe we have some common ground in the fact that capitalism has failed my generation more than any other in recent years. 00:07:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did quite say that, but I would say lack of free enterprise in some ways. But that's okay, You've got most of it so well. Yeah, so the lockdowns not quarantine, right, that was the word I used. But I mean, I'll just I'll prove it to you. So the war thing aside, I mean, how many people in this room know someone that committed suicider seriously harmed themselves in the midst of the pandemic, just by a show of hands, that's a lot. I mean the number show suicide visits were fifty percent higher among twelve to seventeen year olds during the same period in twenty eighteen. Psychiatric medication prescription went up, alcoholism went up, drug use went up, not to mention young people then re entered an economy or everything was twice as expensive because we created a bunch of money because of the lack of productivity in the lockdowns. And so I think it's just an arguable that the lockdowns made it played a huge role, a massive role in really depriving a generation of the ability to congregate and to communicate. 00:08:48 Speaker 5: Can I say my perspective, yeah, sure, this is kind of personal, but I was considering taking my own life before quarantine, and I think discovering myself during quarantine is what saved myself. I had the quite the opposite experience. I know this is unique in that case, but I would say that it's the opposite. I would say it's the opposite case. But that's just my personal's perspective. I think there are far more worse things that my generation has been exposed to than the lockdown and the inflation that you have cided during the lockdown. That's arguably not the fault of the current standing president. If you do believe that it is the fault. 00:09:20 Speaker 1: Current standing president, well, right, I mean, first of all, Biden created five trillion new dollars, not created, but he approved five trillion new dollars. That was hyper hyper inflationary. But I'll even give you that the other COVID relief funds never should have been approved. But look, it's not just the suicide issue about First of all, thank you, we're glad you're here. We're glad you didn't make that decision. Life is beautiful and worthy of protection. I mean that. And but it's from childhood speech impediment development, it's from asocial cues. It's from if you talk to any psychologist or child psychologist, they do not have the bandwidth to be able to even facilitate the amount of kids. And I know that you have an obviously exception experience, but that is the exception, right. I mean, it is self evident that these lockdowns were unusually cruel, and you know who they were most cruel too, to poor families. It was the most cruel the people that didn't have extra bedrooms or high speed internet connection to be able to keep up with this. The kind of zoomification of American education was the hardest on the people that the regimes said they want to help the most. And I mean, so you're an economic leftist, is that fair to say? I mean, would you at least agree that for one of your passionate causes, which is billionaires getting wealthier, billionaires got six hundred billion dollars wealthier. 00:10:38 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and like your whole big tech sucks is what it says. I don't know what it says. Yeah, but that's one of them. Absolutely on your side with that. And I don't think enough conservatives understand that the left are equally against big business as they are. 00:10:49 Speaker 1: Well some leftists, right, I mean it depends who you talk to me. 00:10:53 Speaker 5: Like the loud minority, I would say, are the ones that are make you get the impression that were not against big business? 00:10:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, I promis the ones that actually read or yeah. 00:11:01 Speaker 1: Excuse me where I'm a little cynical about that, just to be honest, where I have to hear there against big business while they mandated a Pfizer Astrozenica Maderno vaccine of publicly traded transnational corporations. 00:11:12 Speaker 5: And see that's more of like, in my eyes, a neoliberal concept. 00:11:17 Speaker 1: Okay, but I mean it was Find me one left wing senator that opposed that and it just didn't exist. But I think you're coming at this from an honest perspective, and I just I'm I'm I'll just close with this. This is what drives me nuts about kind of the fixation on race all the time and all these other issues that I would prefer not to talk about, is that I think there's actually agreement on kind of how things went wrong last couple of years. You blame capitalism, I'd blame more cronyism and big government intervention over a lot of different things. But I'm afraid that a lot of what we spend our time talking about are some of the more superficial issues and rooted in race Marxism. 00:11:55 Speaker 5: Absolutely agree, Absolutely agree, So believe classism is the biggest issue in America. 00:11:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let me us your question as a leftist, you know, why is it that the American left? Why is the American left allowing the conversation to be controlled by white liberals that just want to stay rich. 00:12:10 Speaker 2: It's big business paying them off. 00:12:11 Speaker 1: It's not. That's an honest answer, that's not. You are a true revolutionary. 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And so when the fetus only really has that connection with you know, like fully grown adults or just like born children, what entitles the fetus to violate the property rights of the mother over her own body or to have the government do so on her behalf. 00:14:22 Speaker 1: Does that baby have unique DNA? Yeah, so by your own definition, that should be worthy of protection. Right. 00:14:30 Speaker 2: No, I don't believe that DNA has moral value. 00:14:32 Speaker 1: Just oh okay, got it. So so what when does human life begin? 00:14:36 Speaker 7: Well, human life, I guess if you say, like an organism that is human species by definition, begins at. 00:14:43 Speaker 1: Conception, right, So then my position is that being that begins at conception is worthy of constitutional rights and protection? 00:14:50 Speaker 7: Why what do what moral value does simply having being an organism, even if it's just a single celled organism, Yeah, that has human DNA? 00:14:57 Speaker 2: What moral value? Right? 00:14:58 Speaker 1: Because human beings are different. Human beings have the ability to have rational speech, to reason, not just consciousness, not just the ability to feel. Human beings are the only species that cannot just feel pain and pleasure, but can tell the just from the unjust. Human beings are something that is so beautiful and so special. And of course I have many different reasons to believe this, but I'll make a natural law argument that that DNA will never exist again. It's distinct, and it is living, and if allowed uninterrupted growth, that human being will hopefully mature into something just like you have. And we're all abortion survivors, aren't we. 00:15:34 Speaker 7: I Okay, So you mentioned the I guess the rationality that makes human being special, but that single celled organism doesn't have that rationality yet, and so what qualifies the entirety of the human species? 00:15:52 Speaker 1: Got it? So my seven week old doesn't have a lot of rationality yet it, I mean, my baby girl eats and does other things and sleeps. Does I mean obviously would agree it's that seven week old has value? 00:16:08 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, but I'm not coming from an argument of rationality. I'd come from more of like a self ownership type perspective. And I simply don't believe that an organism that is inherently dependent like on the on, like violating another person's property rights in order to survive. 00:16:25 Speaker 1: Right, right, So, but I mean, my seven week old is very dependent on my wife and me. That doesn't mean I can just eliminate my seven week old like I'm sorry. 00:16:34 Speaker 7: Obviously, like the seven week old depends on like for practicality and living. But if we're talking about a moral perspective, right, just the capacity to have rationality, why does that give it more a value? 00:16:44 Speaker 1: Okay, but we're talking about two different things. I guess the question is, do you believe just because something is dependent on another, is that a reason that you could be able to eliminate that being. 00:16:54 Speaker 7: If that being has to violate someone else's moral rights in order to do so? 00:16:58 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:16:59 Speaker 1: Really? Yeah, So what moral rights do you mean by that? 00:17:04 Speaker 7: The right to have like autonomy of your own body if another actor is violating those rights, then yeah, to remove it. 00:17:10 Speaker 2: I don't see a problem with that. 00:17:11 Speaker 1: Got it? So, so bodily autonomy would be more important than another being being able to live a full life. 00:17:19 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would value a being that has the right to property over one that doesn't have a right to property. 00:17:23 Speaker 1: Yet, got it? Just because the being is older and not in the womb and bigger. 00:17:28 Speaker 7: And also because the being is a person and not just an organism. 00:17:31 Speaker 1: Okay, So, but if that being is one week old, it's more than a single cell or organize. 00:17:36 Speaker 7: But that person, that one week old still has like autonomy over themselves. At least that one week old like has an inherent. 00:17:44 Speaker 2: Like got it? 00:17:44 Speaker 1: Okay? 00:17:44 Speaker 2: Now atomy. 00:17:46 Speaker 1: So this is where we have clarity but not agreement. Here's the problem, Okay, morality I built the West, and the morality that I'm gonna defend tonight is that one week old can't defend themselves. So stronger, bigger people not in the womb need to insert themselves to make sure that one week old is not terminated by people that are just happen to be older and bigger than them. Is that, regardless of size, as soon as that life begins, which you agreed, it starts at conception that being deserves constitutional rights uniquely and fearfully made, and it's the question of the morality of a society what we're willing to do when that being comes into existence. Because human life is special. Human life is different than dolphins, it's different than chimpanzees. We not just have the ability to reason. And I'm going to make an argument you might not agree with. Yes, human beings have a soul, and a soul is worthy of protection. I would even go as far to say that human being is made in the image of the Creator. I don't expect you to agree with that final point. 00:18:39 Speaker 7: Okay, So I guess I would just believe that the only types of I mean, at least the only types of humans that can have moral rights are ones that act as moral agents and a single celled organism that's living in a womb or a multicellular organism that's living in a womb. 00:18:55 Speaker 1: Can you explain what you mean by moral agents moral agency? So if you don't have moral agency, then you could be up for elimination. 00:19:04 Speaker 7: If you don't have I mean, if you don't have moral agency, if you don't have like the ability to like, if you don't have ownership over your own body. 00:19:10 Speaker 2: Yet. 00:19:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, so by the way, that is a babies until they're about eighteen months old do not have ownership with their own body. 00:19:15 Speaker 2: No, I would say that they would they do? 00:19:17 Speaker 1: Okay, how would my seven week old feed herself if I just left her in the crib? 00:19:20 Speaker 2: That's not ownership over your own body? 00:19:22 Speaker 8: Though. 00:19:22 Speaker 7: The ability to move your body by instinct even is ownership of your own we. 00:19:25 Speaker 1: Okay, So twenty two week old baby in the womb moves all the time, you're contradicting yourself. You have to have a line. At fifteen weeks, six weeks, there's a heartbeat. 00:19:38 Speaker 7: I guess I would say that. Okay, So that was a good point. I'll thank you, thank you. I guess I probably just need to clarify that what I mean by like self ownership or moral agency, because that that organism or that human whatever in the womb, it's still inherent like in order to like survive, it's inherently biologically dependent, even if it does nothing, rights biologically dependent on the mother. And so if we talk about like late term like just I mean, like, I guess I don't want to go into that territory, just like right now. Right, So if we say, huh so, like if we just talk about like early term like abortion, I simply don't see. I don't have like and I don't think that generally people see a moral value that is similar to even that of a newborn baby in something that is just conceived. 00:20:35 Speaker 1: We have clarity. Thank you for your question, man, appreciate it. Thank you. 00:20:45 Speaker 2: Uh hi. 00:20:45 Speaker 9: So we've now had the COVID vaccine out for about two years now, right the end of twenty twenty eight came out and my question to you basically is how long is it going to take you to accept the fact that the COVID vaccine is fine. 00:20:58 Speaker 10: For people to use? 00:21:05 Speaker 1: Did you did you hear about what the Florida Surgeon General said the other day? 00:21:10 Speaker 9: Are you aware that over two billion people have taken the vaccine and there are incentives by other countries who have made their own vaccines to go against the United States and even Donald Trump himself. 00:21:18 Speaker 1: So you don't know that he's Trump against me? That's really rich. So the Florida Surgeon General, yeah, said that the vaccine has caused an eighty four percent increase in cardiovascular events for young men eighteen to forty Why would he say that. 00:21:36 Speaker 9: Well, if you look, if you look at the entire pool of people who have gotten the vaccine, it does that. 00:21:42 Speaker 1: Let's let's do that. Raise your hand. If you know someone that was harmed by the vaccine or had an adverse event, Look around, what two billion people are they lying? No, look around, that's a lot of people that have seen adverse events. 00:21:54 Speaker 2: So don't you think that if if it really. 00:21:56 Speaker 1: Was all a conspiracy. 00:21:57 Speaker 9: No, No, let's say let's say let's let's say it's a lot of conspiracy. Don't you think that the fact that, like in your world, that this false vaccine has been distributed so like widespread throughout not just the United States, but the World show, demonstrates that the United States is a failed country. No, but I don't personally don't believe the United States is a failed country. I like living in the United States, but I have faith in our institutions enough to say that a distributing a vaccine to three hundred something billion people in the United States that is false or that is like not safe to use. 00:22:32 Speaker 1: Well, so what do you know about the FAIRS, the Government database of FIRS, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. 00:22:37 Speaker 9: But I can go on the system and report whatever I want. 00:22:39 Speaker 1: Well, no, actually, it's a very long, exhaustive process that takes forty five minutes to an hour hold on under penalty of perjury to go to jail if you followed a false report, and if you talked to him at a hospital, they say it's underreported. According to the government's website, thirty one three hundred and thirty people died because of the vaccine a government. According to the government website, one hundred and seventy nine thousand, eight hundred six people were hospitalized, one hundred thirty six thousand people were an urgent care, sixteen one hundred bells palsy, ten thousand and sixty four with anaphal axis, and over two hundred seven thousand, five hundred seventy six doctor office visits, five thousand miscarriages, sixteen thousand heart attacks, and fifty two thousand events of mile carditis and Perry carditis. That is not a safe or effective vaccine. 00:23:17 Speaker 9: Do you think that if we compare those numbers of the total amount of people who've got the vaccine, that it. 00:23:20 Speaker 1: Makes me say it again, I couldn't hear you what you can you. 00:23:24 Speaker 9: Can list like a large amount of people, like ten thousand people sounds like a lot of people. Like one hundred thousand people sounds like a lot of people. But when you divide that number by the amount of people who have taken the vaccine, then you can look at the statistical rate of them. You do realize compare it to other vaccines and see it's the exact same. 00:23:39 Speaker 1: If the flu shot has even six adverse events, they pull it from the entire field for adversive it has six. So let me ask you a final question, how so the Florida Surgeon General said the following this analysis found that there's an eighty four percent increase in the relative incidents of cardiac related deaths among males eighteen to thirty nine years old within twenty eight days following the mRNA vaccination. That's the Florida Surgeon General that has come out. Pfiser came and testified today and they said, we never tested the vaccine to be able to prevent the spread of the virus. Pfiser has admitted the booster shot was tested on eight mice. Does that bother you? 00:24:19 Speaker 9: Do you realize that there's variants? 00:24:20 Speaker 2: Right? 00:24:21 Speaker 9: The original cod variance is the one that they're. 00:24:23 Speaker 1: Saying the mouse variant. 00:24:24 Speaker 9: No, we had the delta variant and we have the omicron variant now. Right in the beginning, the first variant of coronavirus is the one that they claimed the original vaccines stopped the spread of right, and then the delta weaned that off, and then omicon rained that off even more. And now they don't say that, They say that it prevents hospitalization and death, which is still true. 00:24:45 Speaker 1: Right. So here's the thing I'm gonna trust, not just the data, not just the Florida Surgeon General, not just my own lying eyes. You looked around the room. People have experience after experience after experience. And by the way, if you think it works, god bless you take it, have a great time. But I have a moral obligation as a communicator not to lie to you. And I'm looking at the data and I'm never going to back away from this position. And honestly, history is going to vindicate every one of us that told you not to take this. 00:25:12 Speaker 11: Thank you very much, sure, Hrlie, thanks for coming out. I gotta admit I was a little freaked out when you had all those numbers that you just pulled out. I was like, WHOA, don't mess with Charlie. He has the facts ready to go. 00:25:27 Speaker 3: Right. 00:25:28 Speaker 11: It's a little intimidating, right, But uh, and I have to say too, like on the last comment, even if there was only a one percent adverse effect, why are we mandating it then? Why are people losing their livelihood getting. 00:25:37 Speaker 1: Kicked out, getting kicked out of the military for exactly? 00:25:40 Speaker 11: But my question to you is my question to you is are you a nationalist? And if you are, do you think nationalism is more means more towards loving your people or loving the ideas of your country. 00:25:51 Speaker 1: Under the proper description. Yes, I am a nationalist under the proper descriptions. I think there's a lot of smearing and you should always value people more. Right, Thank you, that was the quickest answer here. 00:26:01 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Thank you. 00:26:08 Speaker 6: We've been really fortunate to work with a lot of great partners over the years at The Charlie Kirk Show, but some relationships are just different. Noble Gold Investments is one of them. They've been a long time friend of this show. They were here during the growth. They help many of you and our audience take real steps to protect your wealth. And now we get to build an even stronger partnership together. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Noble Gold, and honestly, it's just great to get to work with people you can trust. 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These are great people and we're so glad to be working with them again. 00:27:22 Speaker 10: Hi, good evening. 00:27:23 Speaker 12: I was started by saying I'm a leftist, but I found common ground with you on abortion and that I completely agree that you know, whatever you want to call it a fetus at whatever stage it is, it's alive. 00:27:39 Speaker 10: There's no there's no contention on that front. 00:27:41 Speaker 12: My concern though, and I want to hear your perspective on this, is here in Texas we have the strictest abortion ban in the whole country. There's no exception for rape or incest, or for the life of the mother after six weeks. My concern is that the government is mandating that people carery out their pregnancies even when it goes against their own life and their own well being. I can take an example of if if somebody is threatening to harm you, you have a right to self defense. Why not have the same give the same autonomy to people who are pregnant? 00:28:15 Speaker 1: Okay, thoughtful question, Thank you. So the first thing is if you believe abortion is wrong, which which you admitted it is, well, then you should obviously have laws that I'll clarify. 00:28:26 Speaker 12: I didn't admit that abortion was wrong, Okay. I see it as a form of self defense. 00:28:31 Speaker 1: Okay, right, so that's a new one. 00:28:36 Speaker 12: Well as the as the previous person says that that that person inside of you is completely dependent on you in a way different than a natural born So. 00:28:45 Speaker 1: In most cases, rape and incest aside, how did that being get there? 00:28:51 Speaker 12: I mean, in in most cases through sex, regardless of rapeer incests. 00:28:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, so there was a choice made. 00:28:58 Speaker 10: I see your point. 00:28:59 Speaker 12: Even with a choice, Let's say you invite someone into your home and they still decide to assault you. 00:29:05 Speaker 10: Does I mean you not have a right to self defense against them? 00:29:08 Speaker 1: Well? No, I think that. For example, if you have a bunch of teenagers over to your home and they start wrecking everything, you shouldn't be shocked when all of a sudden you wake up the next morning and things are a little awry. 00:29:16 Speaker 12: But we're not just talking about wrecking at home. We're talking about wrecking your own body, your own personal life. 00:29:21 Speaker 1: Well, hold on again, rape and insest the side of which I'm happy to answer and happy to talk about the moral aspect of that. But ninety eight percent of all abortions are done as a form of birth control. Right, sure, it's a form of birth control. How did those people get pregnant? 00:29:34 Speaker 10: Usually through consensual sex? 00:29:36 Speaker 1: Right, so they are pro choice. They made a choice to have consensual sex, and now they want to be able to use scientific medical technology to crush a being that is not them. Is a different person out of convenience. 00:29:50 Speaker 12: Let's say you have a child who is who needs a kidney transplant, and you are the only one who can supply it. You consentually allow them to use that kidney. What if the operation goes too long, they're still kind of using your blood for months on end. 00:30:07 Speaker 10: Should the government mandate, you know, maybe not kidney. 00:30:10 Speaker 1: I love these hypotheticals. I got it. I got it. Not in my earlier I got the most amazing hypothetical. We don't have to overthink this, like why should children get the death penalty because their parents decided to have consensual sex? I don't understand, sir. 00:30:23 Speaker 12: Even if you consent to, say, taking care of your child through the you know, transfusing blood or whatnot, should the government mandate that you have to continue that consensual blood transfusion? 00:30:35 Speaker 1: Again under the unrealistic hypothetical. And I reject the whole premise of this. The question is unreal Let me answer it more broadly. Do I think the government should step in to protect and preserve human right if by be it by mandating, especially when the question is termination or not. Of course the answer is yes, but it says a lot when I there's a there's a very serious concrete question and kind of we got to yield to these abstractions, which is fine. The philosophical sides and the kind of hype patheticals are fine, are legitimate, I suppose in some sense, but it comes to be just more concrete. Right, you got a million abortions every single year, Okay, nine hundred and ninety eight thousand of them are because of a form of birth control. Do you find something wrong with that? Not necessarily, okay, I think there is something wrong with that. I think that just looking at the last resort to be able to terminate human life as a form of birth control is not just sick, it's immoral, and it says a lot about who we are as a people and kind of the folding of the folding of a cultural life in our nation. And so I'll just ask one final question, when does human life begin? 00:31:38 Speaker 12: It begins a conception, But that doesn't override the right to bodily autonomy and self detect. 00:31:42 Speaker 1: Okay, So that's interesting. So it does begin at conception. So does that mean someone who is larger than another being has the right to terminate them? Why is it bodily autonomy just because the being is in them. 00:31:52 Speaker 12: The size doesn't matter. It's the self defense. If a toddler is running a knife at you, you can knock it down. 00:32:02 Speaker 10: You know it's you. I'm sorry, I'm kind of impromptu you here. 00:32:07 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, well so I'll just close with this. Don't use that analogy again. 00:32:11 Speaker 10: Yeah, that was a battle. 00:32:14 Speaker 1: Thank you for being here tonight. 00:32:15 Speaker 13: Thanks hey, thank you so much for coming out here and for like facing disagreements. 00:32:26 Speaker 10: First, I guess I really appreciate it. 00:32:29 Speaker 14: All right. 00:32:29 Speaker 13: I had another question coming up here, but I really the bait is there and I have to take it. So I am also pro choice, and I was wondering, how like you you said. 00:32:44 Speaker 10: To the previous dude back there, that. 00:32:48 Speaker 13: The government in cases where human life is at risk should step in through any means necessary, be it through mandates, be it through bands, things like that. 00:32:57 Speaker 1: Right, again, that was a hypothetical answer. Let me clarify it. I think the government has a moral obligation to protect innocent life when confronted with the question of someone intervening to end that life. Right, So, if a police officer standing idly by and you see someone on the side of the street, and someone is going by to about to kill them. The police officer, being an agent of the government, has a moral right to intervene. 00:33:17 Speaker 13: I'm sorry, I do have to take like a little bit of a caveat here. So the behavior of the police officers in the Uvalde shooting was disgusting. 00:33:26 Speaker 1: Oh, I totally agree. Okay, yeah, But guess what I'm consistent The cowardice that happened at Uvalde is the cowardice we allow to happen when there's a million abortions in our country every single year. All right, okay, okay, which is standing idly by when children unspeakably get massacred. 00:33:45 Speaker 10: I don't know. 00:33:45 Speaker 13: I think there's a bit of a difference. And the analogy that I usually use, or the question that I usually ask per life people, is. 00:33:54 Speaker 1: Do you believe that. 00:33:55 Speaker 13: The government should mandate organ donation even in cases of like things like donating your kidney or right now, we have a policy where even after death, if you know you have like religious things where you. 00:34:07 Speaker 15: Have sorry, you know, where you know your whole body has to be intact in order for like burial rights and things like that to happen. 00:34:20 Speaker 13: We say that you shouldn't have to donate your organs. But the pro life case seems to extend to the idea that even people who are living should have to give up their kidneys to people in hospitals maybe who need kidneys. 00:34:33 Speaker 1: Well, I don't quite see it that way. 00:34:35 Speaker 10: But what makes the uterus different? 00:34:38 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, again, in ninety nine point sixty seven percent of the cases, the woman made a choice that could. 00:34:43 Speaker 13: Potentially about what do you think should happen? 00:34:46 Speaker 1: Then? Oh, I think the baby should be delivered? Of course, because I'll give you an example. Let me just prove it to you by two ultrasounds, and one of them was a baby conceived in rape, and one was a baby conceived in consensual sex. 00:34:57 Speaker 13: Well, of course, which one is it? 00:35:01 Speaker 10: They look the same, I do, I do? 00:35:03 Speaker 1: You can't tell, because they're both human beings. And in Western morality, of which I'm defending tonight, doing something wrong after something evil is never the right thing. 00:35:13 Speaker 13: So do you think that government should mandate organ donations? 00:35:17 Speaker 1: No, and I think it's a false equivalency for more reasons than one, for a lot of different reasons. By the question of do I think that the government should come in and protect innocent life from being slaughtered. Of course I do, yes, and that's the answer. So I mean when it comes to mandating organ donations, I don't even see how that's applicable to the question, because in ninety nine point six six percent of the cases, six seven percent of the cases, the mother made a choice to be able to get pregnant. Now, in the very small micron kind of case, then the case is that the human life and the human being needs to exist. You need to be able to be able to exist. 00:35:57 Speaker 13: All right, I'm gonna argue that different forms of birth control have like different forms of like effectiveness, and someone could be like potentially on birth control using those control methods and it fails. 00:36:09 Speaker 1: Is that just a risk that like someone Yeah, So I'm going to say something. This is this is how far our morality has gone. We need to teach kids to save themselves for marriage, and a lot of these problems wouldn't be having. And if you do decide to engage in consensual marriage before sex, before marriage, and you get pregnant, that's the cost of the game. All right, Okay, thank you for being here, appreciate it. Hell, the this may be the hardest question all night. Uh, But I really have to ask it, so right now on October twelfth, twenty twenty two, it. 00:36:51 Speaker 2: Is right here. 00:36:53 Speaker 1: We need an answer. I'll repeat it. I get it everywhere I go. So I need to like play the tape. Did you want to say anything else with that? Okay? The question is, Charlie, will you support Desanta Sir Trump in twenty twenty four? So okay, speaking personally, not on behalf of Turning Point USA, I'll say what I've always said, which is I'm a very loyal person. I told President Trump if he runs again, I'm gonna have his back one hundred percent. And I can't stand in politics when people are wishy, washy and wavering. We had our turning point actions draw phole and Donald Trump on was seventy eight point seven percent of the results. But and it's a very big one. I got to tell you that Ron DeSantis might be a once in a generation leader. He's very special and I don't know when, I don't know how, but I would not be surprised if he's president of the United States one day. And I think he would make a great president. But I'll close with this, I think you'd make a good president. I know Trump was a great president, and that's why I'm behind you. 00:37:52 Speaker 10: Thank you answer, thank you? 00:38:00 Speaker 1: So hi, Oh you have the whole mic. 00:38:03 Speaker 16: Okay, he's actually my friend. I actually first heard of you through a Christian apologist I follow, called doctor Frank Turk. He's special, he's great, he's awesome, he's a great friend. My question concerns the hope and love we can have for America. I mean, we live in a country that has allowed for sixty three million depths through the abortion industry, and we have multiple industries and institutions that are built on lies and lust. And it seems as if the majority of American citizens either don't care or even approve of all of this. So where do you think we can go, the individual people, the church, and the government to where can we go from having hope and love for a country? 00:38:45 Speaker 1: At this point, it's a very dark picture you painted. You can congratulate you anything else you want to add to that. Well, first of all, you know, I assume you're a Christian, and so I mean it's it's up to us Christians. There's two things. Christians can't be apathetic or cynical. I won't put up with it. Your secular you could be apathetic and cynical. You're Christian. I'm not going to put up with it because you know how the story ends, and you have a great hope, and you should always be working towards a great end. You should care about your nation. Jeremiah twenty nine to seven. Demand the welfare of the nation that you are in, because your welfare has tied to your nation's welfare. Daniel Fasten and prayed for his nation, Niamayah, Jeremiah, Esther, Mordecai, all cared about the wealthy too. Yep, exactly. Yeah, pray for your leaders by name, because their counselors to the king. 00:39:25 Speaker 2: And so. 00:39:25 Speaker 1: Look, I think we have a lot of hope. And the hope is not in the institution. It's not in the FBI, it's not in the DOJ, it's not in the CIA, it's not on facebook's not in Google, it's not in Golden Sacs. My hope is in the energy and the spirit and the optimism of you. I mean, what I get to see in the American people traveling the country, hosting a national radio show, hosting a podcast. I'm nothing but hopeful. The spirit in the grassroots of the American people right now, of all ages and backgrounds is so onspiring and it doesn't take a majority. It doesn't It takes ten to fifteen percent of a vibrant, hopeful, spirit filled group of people that can turn things around. And you know, we as American have done great things, and there's something special about America. I will defend it at all corners. And the thing that one of the things that makes America different is when something bad happens we step up is that we have it in our history to not be apathetic. We have exceptions to that rule, obviously. And my hope is in what I'm seeing across the kurment. My hope is in pastors rising up. My hope is in people that are starting to speak boldly. My hope is in parents showing up to school board meetings and challenging what is being taught in these local public schools. My hope is parents that are homeschooling. My hope is in our turning Point USA chapter leaders that are starting these chapters, that are in the grassroots, that are on high school and college campus is leaning in. That's what gives me hope. The institutions. Here's the cool thing about institutions, they come and go, and they build and they crumble. But the spirit and the will of the people, I think is stronger than any other time I've been doing this in one decade, and I think that resolve is only going to strengthen. So God bless you men, Thank you, God bless you. 00:41:00 Speaker 6: Imagine being a young woman just finding out that you're pregnant, not knowing where to go or what to do, not even knowing exactly what is going on in your body, while the whole world tells her it's just a clump of cells. You and I we both know the truth. We know it is a baby. And once she has an ultrasound that you provide and she sees the truth of the baby growing inside of her, you help her choose life. When you join us in providing ultrasounds with preborn and she sees her baby and here's her baby's heartbeat, you will double the likelihood that she will choose life. And one hundred percent of what you give goes to providing ultrasounds one hundred percent preborn separately fundraises for administrative costs two hundred and eighty dollars can save ten babies twenty eight dollars a month can save a baby a month all year long, and a fifteen thousand dollars gift. 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And how do I protect my privacy of personal personal information such as vaccine status, while still being able to stay social and attain a corporate job and perhaps also enjoying other luxuries in which releasing this information is required. 00:42:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's a great, great question. So let me kind of tell you it's hard to do all those things right. It's going to be hard to keep a corporate job and also keep all of your kind of medical information private because for whatever reason, we decided to throw out HIPPA and ask everyone for their personal medical information about the vaccine, which never should have been allowed in my personal opinion. But look, as far as the currency question, it's very important question. What PayPal announced and then what PayPal aretracted should just scare everyone, regardless of political affiliation. Where PayPal came out and they said that if you engage in their definition of disinformation, they're going to take twenty five hundred dollars out of your account on violation. Now they backed away from that, but this is a company that did twenty five billion dollars in revenue. How on earth did they ever get this approved through? You know, how did this get on a press release? How does this become policy? You just saw today. You might like him, you might not like him. You might think he's great, you might think he went too far recently. But Kanye West just got an alert from JP Morgan Chase. He's no longer allowed to bank at JP Morgan Chase. And that's wrong. I don't care what you think of Kanye West to be able to shut somebody's banking system off because you don't like them, or because they say something that you, you know, you deem to not be appropriate. And so there's something very troubling about that, and so how do you protect against it. I don't think it's the end all be all. I don't think it's a solution everything, but I am a big fan of cryptocurrency. I think that blockchain, properly employed, can be a great hedge against tyranny. I think that the federal government is trying to make us cash list soon and we have to resist, and I'm telling you resist very loudly against the federal government trying to put forward a federal digital currency. It's a very, very big concern. It hasn't gotten a lot of focus on it, but a federal digital currency is a very big issue. We've already seen the intentional debasing of our currency. I don't agree with libertarians and a lot of things, but the one thing I'm one hundred percent on is the destruction of our money. I have to tell you, the Federal Reserve intentionally coming into our money system and creating money out of thin air and making you poor a year after year after year through quantitative easing is something that we should all be very concerned about. I'm afraid they're trying to get us closer to a currency recent reset, and so part of it is just owning assets that assets that can me move quickly, that are transparent. That's one of the things that excites me about bitcoin. Again, I'm not telling you to buy bitcoin. If I did, I could get in trouble like Kim Kardashian did. Do whatever you want to do, I don't care. I think it's good technology and I think I think crypto can solve some of these problems. But their agenda is trying to get as sco cash list. 00:45:18 Speaker 17: And also I remember over winter break last year when I was in New York. I couldn't even like enter buildings or eat in the restaurant. I still love a lot of other aspects of New York, and I was kind of hoping to stay there. Do you think it would be worth it or do you think like being unvaccinated and a conservative like it's. 00:45:37 Speaker 1: Just like, yeah, that's a good question, only you can answer it. My question would be where do you feel free and happy? And if you feel free in New York, god bless you. I gotta tell you that's uh, that's not exactly what I feel when I go to New York. I feel a lot of things that is definitely not it. So but we can't. I have a mixed opinion on this. I have a couple of things that I say that I totally contradict myself. This is why one of them. So at one I'll give one speech where I tell everyone to go move to red states, and then I'll give another speech where I say, we can't have all the people leave red states, oh blue states, because we still need red thinking people if you will in those states. And so I contradict myself on that all the time because I see it both ways. I know if I grew up in Illinois, and I'm glad I don't live there anymore, and pardon me, feels bad that I left. But also I think life is so important you should try your best to live in a free society. And there's still some great states, Texas being one of them that I think gets it, so God bless you. 00:46:32 Speaker 2: Thank you. 00:46:38 Speaker 17: Hi, Charlie. 00:46:38 Speaker 14: I'm here with a group of students from the UT Pro Life Club, so we're really thankful for your pro life stance. My question is about like phone addiction and sort of this switched transhumanism that's going on in our culture right now. It's really worrying me with my generation that we're so addicted and we don't even realize it. So I was wondering your perspective. 00:46:59 Speaker 1: That's a really, really great question. Thank you for your advocacy. The pro life group here deserves a lot of credit because, based on what I saw today, you guys are up against a lot seriousness. Yeah, that's great. I'm not a fan of our digital pacifiers that have seemed to permeate our entire society. I really believe that we are participating in the largest and most cruel open air drug experiment in human history, which is to give these devices to twelve, thirteen, and fourteen year olds. There's some really great thinkers on this, not political. You could just read doctor Anna Lemke. You can go read Andrew Huberman, who I think is really smart. He spends a lot of time here in Austin, and they're very fair, and they're very well sited and research and they just talk about the neurological damage that staring at a phone will do, especially at a young age. And I look at it no differently than giving kids drugs. And so the one thing and I wish that Marxist I don't know if he the Leftist was here, and I wish what had said. I would also say, and this is if you want to talk about one of the great hockey stick correlations and not get too ahead of yourself, if you look at suicide and depression or just kind of what would be a kind of like a basket of how you would define mental health and like how you say okay, good or bad. It went up like a hockey stick in twenty thirteen as the iPhone was widely distributed. And again I'm not a big causation correlation guy, but it's like, come on, what else could you possibly attribute, Like what has changed the most in our day to day interaction at a restaurant in the last ten years. Let's just be honest, right, I see entire families out to dinner and no one's talking to each other. I think it's deeply unhealthy. I think it's antisocial, and it's not even governmental or political in nature. So I mean, just some stats I have your twenty six percent of car accidents are caused by smartphone usage. Thirty one percent of smartphone uses in the US never turn off their phones. Forty five percent of children's aged ten to twelve have a smartphone. Forty five percent of teens feel addicted to their smartphone devices. It's bad for both boys and girls. That's especially bed for girls. I think TikTok is one of the worst things ever to come across the American technological landscape. I really do. And it's okay if you're addicted. I know some of you applauding are probably addicted. That's fine, I understand, And so just some a final piece on this. I turned my phone off Friday night to Saturday night. I encourage all of you guys to take a phone sabbath once a week. It's very freeing, it's awesome. It's a challenge too, because you got to kind of figure out where to how to get directions and where to go. It's really fun and you could do it. Just take one day a week and turn off your phone. Within three weeks, all of your friends will know you're unreachable by phone. From Friday night to Saturday night. You'll be in a grocery store and you like won't know what to do. When you're waiting in line, you're like, wow, this is how it used to be. It's very freeing, and just the final thing is this. I'm far from an expert, but if you read doctor Anna Lemke's book Dopamine Nation, you will have a picture into how how her thick the damage we're doing to give these kids devices. There's other books as well. Gary Wilson wrote an unrelated book but important, especially for young men, Your Brain on pornography or your brain on porn. May he rest in peace. He was a great thinker. But there's like this whole new genre of scientific thinking that I think is legit science by the way of people that are a little ahead of the curve diagnosing what I think is going to be Ten years from now, we're going to look back, like, what were we doing giving all these kids devices? So you still have the power to turn off your phone. I know it's hard, but it's doing a huge damage to young people in particular. Thank you appreciate it. 00:50:38 Speaker 8: Hi, my name is Jackson. I'm actually the editor in chief of our conservative paper on campus at Texas Horn. So you could expect me to agree with miss of what you said, and I do. But there's one area of this agreement where I real flfilling to push back, and that of course, is on the vaccine. So I'd like to talk about your Florida study which said and eighty four percent and heart problems among young men who took the vaccine. So I was interested in this report and actually just google it, and if you look in the chart on a page six to the report, see that the basis period is seventeen deaths like before due to these heart palpitations among men eighteen to thirty four, whatever it was. So an eighty four percent increase from seventeen deaths is bad, but it is nowhere near the twenty million plus who have been killed due to COVID. So I just like to hear, like, how you weigh that from an eighty four percent increase from seventeen deaths against twenty million plus killed by COVID more if not for the vaccine, right. 00:51:39 Speaker 1: So, and I'll repeat the var's data. Right the vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System from the government, right where it says there's fifty two, eight hundred and ninety six incidents of milecarditis and perry carditis. But let me ask you, let me ask it differently, where I think we could come to a quick conclusion. Do you agree that milecarditis and perry cardidis is increasing dramatically? I do, yes, from a very low based right. 00:52:00 Speaker 8: Why Well, I mean, obviously the vaccine is the prime suspect. But if you have a very rare disease and it increases by slight amounts, then you have to make the trade off and say that something which is killing millions of people is worse. 00:52:14 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I understand that that's a separate argument. Right, But do you agree that it's probably the vaccine that's causing these cardiac issues? 00:52:19 Speaker 8: That seems to be the most likely. 00:52:21 Speaker 1: Okay, so we agree the vaccine is causing heart damage. We don't know how much. Right, it says in the var's database fifty one hundred ninety six incidents of myocarditis and pericarditis. You saw the hands around the room, and just one other anecdotal thing. I asked my audience. I said, how many people in our podcast audience have instances of people that got the vaccine and mysteriously died or you know, had heart attacks. We have like ten thousand, fifteen thousand emails one after the other. And I would just encourage you go look at doctor Peter McCullough, one of the nation's large, you know, leading cardiologists, who has spoken out about this. Right doctor Robert Malone and also previously uninterested in this topic, who I just think is great Doctor Brett Weinstein, who hosts the Dark Horse podcast. He's a liberal. He used to be a professor at Evergreen State University, and I think this scholarship is great. So I don't want to I don't want to redo the conversation with previously. But thanks for being here tonight. Thank you, thank you. 00:53:14 Speaker 18: Okay, so I'm one of the first agreers. All the disagreees are first. So but anyway, one thing I don't think is pushed strong enough by the pro life is adoption, because I mean, that kills it all entirely. 00:53:27 Speaker 1: There's so many families that want adopt kids. 00:53:29 Speaker 18: And if you see a show like Long Lost Family, you see these people that reunite with their biological parents twenty thirty years after they're born, and they live wonderful lives and they have two sets of parents, and it's a wonderful thing. So if you know, this whole discussion on oh, the mom is going to be, you know, live a terrible life. 00:53:47 Speaker 1: She can't afford to have the child. 00:53:48 Speaker 18: But they're I think something like thirty families for every one child that's adopted that want kids. I think it needs to be pushed stronger. 00:53:55 Speaker 1: You know, I totally agree, and you know, I want to shout out. My friend does a great clinic in San Antonio, does a phenomenal job for the pro life movement. And by the way, I know we don't like the term crisis pregnancy center, right, it's not our favorite term, but you know, Dave mccaud does such a great job. And I got to tell you that the people that are on the front lines of this deserve a lot of credit. Elizabeth Warren says she wants pregnancy crisis centers to be shut down, which is unbelievable. But I'll say this, and I think you're right, and I didn't make this point clearly enough earlier at the table. If we are going to advocate an end to abortion using the state or government. Then we have to be there to make sure that every single child is taken care of through charity, through churches, and through resources necessary. It's morally imperative we do that, and adoption is that first step. God bless you. 00:54:44 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:54:44 Speaker 18: Sorry, well no, I've got more because if you read Peter Zion's book, I mean, China's population is going to collapse in the next twenty years. It's just because of the one child policy. I mean, we need to have kids. Your nation dies. 00:54:57 Speaker 1: Population, the population collapses. Come in here in big time. Well we're here. 00:55:01 Speaker 18: According to Peter Zion, we're doing okay, and there's we've been immigration too. 00:55:05 Speaker 1: I agree with the Elon Musk. 00:55:06 Speaker 18: I think we're I think it's a client okay, but we need to have kids regardless regard. 00:55:09 Speaker 1: Bless you men. But okay, but I bet I got one. We got to get to another one. I'm sorry, thank you, thanks, Hi, Sorry, we're short on time, sir. 00:55:17 Speaker 19: Sorry, hello, I'm asking a question for friends. If it's und stupid, this is not on me. So let's agree that like abortions should be banned and this is the government's right to protect you know, the rights of kids and whatnot. And so we see a lot of statistics where kids going into foster care homes or things of that nature tend to be abused or sexual abuse to certain extent. So what would you say is the government's solution and role in this whole situation. 00:55:44 Speaker 1: Yea piggyback on the kind of question previously, which is we have to change the way we do adoption in our country. I would again a lot of people find this to be, you know, terrible that I will lean on this. I think we have to lean on the church, who has the infrastructure and the essentially these parachurch ministries, and they have the willing this to be able to do this and to support adoption. There are two million people right now that want to adopt in America, two million people, and I bet that would double or triple if the pastors of this nation really challenge their congregation to lean in and to adopt. If you're going if to be consistent as a pro life person, you have to come up with solutions. And the solution should be we have to make it financially easier to have children. We should go maybe as far as Hungary, goes, which is to pay people to have kids. I'm not against it. I'm not We should go as far to make sure that adoption is easy and seamless, and then we also have to individually and charitably step up to make sure that this idea of an unwanted pregnancy is a thing of the past. Thank you, Thank you, appreciate it. I know you, Yes, you do. What's up man? 00:56:48 Speaker 10: What's going on? 00:56:49 Speaker 1: Great? Final question? 00:56:50 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, quick question. 00:56:51 Speaker 20: You said we should stop talking about racism, but we have a problem in the country. You're not a racist. As often as as I've been around you, you've never seen anything that has been racist. But the left they constantly say that you're racist. And if we don't talk about the problem that they're trying to create, it would never go away. 00:57:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what I was saying, and I think you'd agree. I'm exhausted with talking about race all the time. Right, But and I'm happy to also push back on like who's actually the ones that are being racist and the people that are pushing black only dormitories in America, that's racist, Zach, Right, the people that are saying that we should have value on skin color and not content of character that's racist, and so I'm just exhausted about talking about it all the time, honestly, because I feel as if when you focus on those issues, like man, we're just constantly talking about what divides us, right, and I think you understand my heart in that way exactly. 00:57:46 Speaker 20: It's but it's only the left that's constantly pushing that. They're constantly pushing that. I get it all the time. 00:57:51 Speaker 1: So thank you, God, bless you man, Thank you so much. All Right, everybody, this was a lot of fun, couple things. Support your turning Point USA chapter. They're doing an amazing job. I want to thank you t for hosting us nicely. Really appreciate that. 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