Banish the Word "Inevitable" ft. Dr. Larry Arnn

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The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company. I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. 00:01:09 Speaker 3: All right, our two is underway at the Charlie Kirkshaw. Welcome back. We are honored by the presence of a great man, gat great patriot, great friend of Charlie's. And turning point and that is the president of Hillsdale College, doctor Larry Are and welcome, welcome back their great to be with you. Honored, honored as always to have you, to have your friendship and your partnership, and to have your thoughts. 00:01:30 Speaker 2: Uh. 00:01:30 Speaker 3: When it comes to this show, because we are sort of a news of the day, we cover these these changing themes the world events. And one of the things that we were talking about is in our one was you. You sort of have two storylines that I think are going to prove techtonic. You have Virginia is now Democrat run. Governor Youngkin is no more. We've got Spaanberger and the Democrat she's got. I mean, it's a trifecta. Right, They've got the legislature and they've got the the governor's mansion. They're going full Marxist instantly. Trump lost that state by six points, that's six points, but they are going they're acting like full on California. Simultaneously, You've got a storyline in Davos where they're signaling a green light to China. Yeah, and it might be easy for us to sort of blackpill on this. And I guess there is a question, you know, a larger question over arching all of this, which is our liberal Western democracy's prone or is it inevitable this slide into a malaise into leftism. So there's a lot there, doctor arm But you're the only one I could think of that could handle all of those questions all at once. 00:02:41 Speaker 4: There you go. Well, the first thing is that every person should banish the idea of inevitability in human affairs from their life. 00:02:51 Speaker 5: Perfect. 00:02:53 Speaker 4: One of the themes you learn if you studied the very great Winston Churchill is it's not trends that matter, it's choices. And you just think of the amazing reversals that are that have happened in the world. I mean, Trump is such a reversal. Right, That's the reason he's hated because remember these movements. China is part of the movement, and the European Union is part of the movement. And the liberalism in Western liberal democracies called it's progressivism, and that's part of that's an offshoot of German historicism and its thought is history is going somewhere. We can know what that is, and we can serve it, and where it's going is the transformation of everything under our control. That's what they believe. That's one of the biggest ideological movements. If you, if you want to, if anybody wants to read that, Hillsteale College has a constitution course where a constitution reader. Every kid has got to take it, you can get it. The last third of it is the writing of the early American progressives. And what they believed was this is inevitable, this is going to happen, and it's the only promise because we now know by the way that we don't really know anything objectively, and we know that there is no God, and so the old idea of the laws of nature and Nature's God, they reject that. And so this is their effort to give meaning, meaning to lives that they think fundamentally don't have any And so yeah, it's fierce right. They believe in it. They believe in it as bringing meaning to their lives. And that means they won't lightly reform. Now why are they not? Is it not inevitable? Well, first of all, it won't work. It can't work. A human being is a thing. I was just in there watching Charlie's children eat their breakfast, and what delightful kids. Charlie married above himself, and he was the heck of a guy. Still he managed to do that. So that's nature, right. She mourns her husband, and she loves those kids. And the energy it takes to raise those kids, that's nature. Actually, the word nature comes from a Latin word that means birth that cannot go away except toward destruction. So and in America, in Virginia, I mean, first of all, who lives in northern Virginia and what do they do for a living? 00:05:48 Speaker 5: And so just. 00:05:49 Speaker 4: Remember, gradually and over a long time, this kind of thing has been deeply entrenched in the American government. And there's an effort. When Donald Trump says drain the swamp, he says something revolutionary he's talking about. I even think he knows it, but it certainly is what it means. He's talking about returning to a form of government that is more limited, that is more local, and that places responsibility in individual hands and community hands. That's if you just take a snapshot of the government of the United States anytime before nineteen thirty and compare it to a snapshot today you will see that the government is much larger as a percentage of the economy. It's gone since nineteen thirty it's gone from twelve percent to fifty one percent, and it is much more centralized. The federal government has gone. Of that twelve percent, the federal government was about twenty three percent. Now of the fifty one percent, it's about sixty three percent. And then it passes money down. Right, So we have a sin uturalized form employing millions of people with interest and groups wedded to it, including lots of economic interest, but all kinds of interest, and it gets its moral energy from this thing. We can recreate the world, I mean the family. I just talked about Charlie's children, and you just talked about a bill that sex is not natural. It's what it says. But come to find out, every living person comes from that process, and it took two Now pretty soon, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't get the ability to manufacture people, then we will further look at people as manufactured items instead of creatures that blessed with divine reason. So yeah, that's where it's going. And that and because it won't work, I mean, you gotta that hideous strength mentioned a minute ago, right. 00:08:10 Speaker 6: It was one of the four books I read it over. Christ is the only one I had that thing. 00:08:17 Speaker 4: And it'll see s Lewis. It will frighten you to death because it just shows that this effort, I mean, what is distinctive about it? Off Hitler. He's the first person to build a modern factory for the slaughter and processing of human beings and a transportation system to go with it. Nobody ever did that before. Why would he do that? He wanted to perfect the world according to his will? And you know, we know, and Christians know, but read the classic books they know too, the Pagan ones included Heaven is not on this earth, and if you try to make it so, you'll turn it into hell. So yeah, that's what the fight is about. And it's it's a fundamental fight. It's like I've been saying this for years and I believe it right now. The great crises in American history of the Revolutionary War won by the skin of our teeth and the Civil War won by the skin of our teeth, and this one. And we don't know how it's going to come out. But the reason I think that is because the decorative independence presents a view of nature that is universal and eternal and says that we have our rights under that never rightly to be taken away, and that's a fixity, right, and it gives rise to a constitution. Those are the two things we're arguing about today, and those are characteristic two things we argue about in every fundamental controversy. 00:09:57 Speaker 3: So you're juxtaposing Hegel's diale with sort of a natural law creator, right, right, So, and I love that because I think the Europeans are really into Hegel and the American way is really into the you know, the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, aristytle yes, and basically having this collision of philosophies that underlies these geopolitical arguments tariffs, China, sexes. It's well said, doctor. I'm not surprised President Trump walked into a catch twenty two when taking office, do nothing in America would be staring at a ticking debt bomb, the kind of crisis that could cripple our future. Instead, he's taken action with strong policies to slow the train and buy some time. But the effects of past administration spending are still working through the system. 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You feared, or at least proposed, that one of the most logical outcomes was that Europe was going to go with China. 00:11:49 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:11:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, we just set up this dichotomy between Hegel and the Declaration of Independence, laws of nature, and Nature's God. America is on one side of that philosophical argument. Europe seems to be. On the other did that inform that thought or was it more of a service level, their de industrialization, their lack of military might no, and are what are the implications? 00:12:15 Speaker 4: Well, China is a top down society. It's a heavily modified form of Marxism, you know, marks with Chinese characteristics. They've always said what it is is despotism, and that means the party decides and people obey. They're very clever at it. They've liberated it enough so they can grow and produce, and they they you know, they teat talk about education. What you learn in Chinese schools. First of all, you learn a lot, they're very competitive. But the second thing you learn is the Chinese people have been afflicted by the West. We're the great victim people, and so they grow up thinking that a little bit like the way children learned in Germany for a long time in Europe, and the people seem a little too ready to put up with a lot out of their government. But on the other hand, tens of millions of them have been killed by the government, and so they got reasons, and they make a pretty good living these days, better than they used to. So that's China and it's thriving. Well, what is the European Union? Is it real accountability of the government to the people. They have enormous powers, but people are elected from all those many countries to run a parliament, and people don't go and vote in those elections because they don't really feel part of it. And so, I mean, there's a guy named Daniel Hannan who is a very good member of the European Parliament, and Nigel Faraj was a member for a while too, and just read them, read their speeches there about how this is not really a sensible a sense, a system of accountability to the people. And remember there isn't a people. There are many peoples and they don't speak the same language. And so it's this bureaucratic state with this tissue of legislature to control it that doesn't really control it. And so what's not to like about China to that bunch of people. And I've thought that for years. And you know, my wife is English and we follow the English news and grieve over it a lot lately. And you know, they're gonna censor the Internet and they're gonna you know, they're doing all. 00:14:49 Speaker 3: That stuff placement, immigration, Yeah, and they don't. 00:14:54 Speaker 4: And I think they think they can manage all that they don't. China seems to me highly competent in important ways. I mean, they got a bigger navy than we got, in their building ships much faster. And see, part of this thing about Europe flirting with them is China in some direct measures of power is waxing. We don't know how good their military is. It hasn't been tested, but it's big and only a fool would not take it seriously. And so yeah, I had a Hungarian minister I won't say his name, good guy, very good guy, and he's hungry. You know, it's got a good government by my lights, Orban, and he was in Orban's cabinet at the time, and he gave a talk about how the Opinion Union was dangerous to Hungry and to the world, and it seemed true to me to talk. And then I'm talking to him later and I said, I understand that you have welcomed the Belt and Road of China into Hungary. He said, oh, yeah, we had to. And I said why. He said, Poland has it and won't share. And we're an elected government and we need prosperity, and we got a trade and who is around for us to trade with. There's the European Union of which we're part and which finds US a million dollars a week, i think, or a day for our immigration policies. And there's Russia. We have a lot of experience with Russia. We don't really trust them. So China is this third more distant party. And this guy who's got no sympathy whatsoever with Communism thinks it's an achievement to get the Belt and Road in Hungary as it is in Poland. Well it'll be in France. France has not had any growth to speak of forever, and it's a very and you know, the the more conservative parties, which are all called alt right, are waxing in France. But are the people really going to get to choose Ah, that's a question. So yeah, it's a it's a very dangerous picture. And you know, back at home, there might be some limit to the energy of Donald Trump, but we haven't found it yet. And then on the other hand, he's got three years and typically presidents are weaker after the midterms. Although he's a freak of freak and a force of nature, he might not be never know what he's going to do, and you know, it could be that, you know, and what the hope is and what the expectation is, by the way in the official press is he's uh peaking right now and it'll be downhill from here and who can do what he did. Once we get rid of him, we'll be in control again. 00:18:16 Speaker 5: Mhm. 00:18:17 Speaker 4: That's their thinking. They're they're confident and that this this thing in Virginia is not surprising. They're going to make hey, while the sun shines, and they expect it to keep shining, and yeah, and that means that what that means. But see, I don't you know, it's a very good idea to study Winston Churchill, because you'll be quick to see that it might be a desperate situation and quick to see that's why we're here, let's. 00:18:48 Speaker 6: Do something about it, and unfortunately, maybe quick to see that even the most heroic figure, there's no permanent wins and there's no permanent defeats. So Winston Churchill did save Britain by we have to cover Britain all the time now and there's a new problem where I don't think I don't think Churchill would have ever thought that Islam taking over Britain was a likely future for his country. Yet there are people who fought in that war who now have to see that happening. 00:19:16 Speaker 4: Well, my wife's father was uh, he left Dunkirk Beach last day anybody did. Then he was in Singapore and he was captured by the Japanese and became a pow of the Japanese. He was camp commander. 00:19:30 Speaker 5: That's a brutal for sure, you know. 00:19:32 Speaker 4: And his father before him fought in all the battles of the Somme in the First World War. Those are people who sacrificed, right. But here's here's something for us all to know. You know, like Charlie Kirk believed in babies, and I do too. Gotta have some babies, Gotta get married and have some babies, because now you're meeting the test of life right fully, because everybody has to meet the test of making living, trying to live well. But then they gotta do it with some of the But here's a lesson that comes from that. We have to do what we can do to prepare the world for the next generation, but we don't get to live for them, you see. We like the institutions of America they are made. Here's a great story. Thomas Jefferson, who you know, was a very great man and also once in a while kind of a dean bat. He writes a letter to James Madison, his friend, close colleague, and says Madison is getting ready to help write the constitution of what became the Constitution of the United States. And Jefferson writes and says that every contract and every law, including this constitution you're writing, should sunset every human generation every thirty three years. The earth belongs to the living, he says. And Madison writes him back and says, you know it actually is a specific function of the Constitution two set up an institution that prevails across generations. And Jefferson did what he commonly did. He Robank said, Yeah, I guess you're right. But the truth is we should. First of all, we need to preserve our institutions. They're the longest surviving written constitution in all of human history, and it has worked. We have to restore it. And the list of things to do is simple. First of all, the word decentralized is crucial to everything that needs to be done. To the government. We need to return power as close to the people as possible, and then the federal government should be in supreme control of things that are simply national. Congress should start making the laws again. Now they make about ten or fifteen percent of them, and the rest are made in the bureaucracy. 00:21:50 Speaker 5: Or by executive order. 00:21:52 Speaker 6: That's really I think the big secret with when President Trump demands getting rid of the filibuster, it's that it's practically a call to say, Congress reel again, yeah, because it's so fake, because they can't pass anything with sixty. 00:22:04 Speaker 4: Votes and see the filibuster. I actually support the filibuster. Just return to what it in fact is. What it was was an argument, was a policy in the Senate only that if you've got something pertinent to say, we don't vote till everybody said it. That means you got to be on the floor talking and it's got to be pertinent. 00:22:28 Speaker 5: This has been an absolute treat. Dr Arn Thank you. 00:22:30 Speaker 3: I would love for you to but I really I'm hanging on every word here about getting us back to what Congress is supposed to be. 00:22:38 Speaker 5: So I want to let you finish your thought here. 00:22:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, the laws are not Mike, Senator Lee, about your mind from Utah keeps cabinet and it's about this wide, and it's you know, four and a half feet tall, and it's got three bays. And what it's full of is the laws passed in the last two year Congress. And that means more pages than anyone will ever read. No one has ever read it all, no one ever will. Well, eighty five percent of those laws are made in the bureaucracy, and that's why the government can be so big and intrude into so much. So one of the things we've got to do is reform that. And that's a big job, and we have to win a series of elections committed to the doing of that. And it doesn't mean that the regulations have to go away. There's not so many and not so federal. It doesn't mean that the you know, first of all, the infrastructure of America is in a bad way, and the government has never been bigger. What's to spend the money on? And so you know, we have to They're just worlds to conquer. We are the people who have a pattern. We had success doing this. And I'll just say one last thought. The American people came across an ocean half known where they were going knowing next to nothing about it. They established the first free and representative government in human history, and they settled an entire continent, by the way, the extent of which they didn't know for thirty years after the country was founded, and they extended that kind of government all the way across. There's never been anything like that. It's wonderful and so we should fight for it. 00:24:36 Speaker 3: And we have a two hundred and fifty year birthday that you are taking part in directly. You're consulting the Commission, and you guys have videos you're doing with the White House. I meant to get into more of that, but we went into some deep waters. But I think there was so important, Doctor arn especially setting up that first piece of what makes America's philosophical starting point so distinct from the European starting point and how that still plays out in our geopolitics and in our trade and immigration. I think that was really important, Dr Arren, I really do, and I hope people listen to that. And one other thing I'm you know I learned from Hillsdale, and this is from the Constitution course, is that our system intentionally sets up power to be spread out over geography and over time, and so we have to win more elections. We have to string some wins together if we're gonna get real reform. But doctor larry On, you are a treasurer, national treasurer, a dear friend. 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Peter, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's great to have you, and congratulations on your new book. 00:27:13 Speaker 2: Oh great, thank you. 00:27:14 Speaker 8: It's great to be with you guys, and I mean, I don't know, you're putting me in a bind here following Larry arn that that's going to be really hard to to that standard. 00:27:22 Speaker 3: But I tried to have you on yesterday. We had some sort of scheduling faux pa. 00:27:26 Speaker 5: I thought it was abu. Anyway, it doesn't matter. 00:27:28 Speaker 3: We're glad to have you here. You are one of the great researchers. You're so good at getting a thread pulling on it and then it it reveals this huge scandalous truth. I saw that it went. It went viral on the internet over the weekend. Breitbart had a big piece on it, and you know, you highlighted the fact that we have potentially a million million point five CCP citizens, so Chinese citizens that are going to be eligible to vote in twenty two thirty and beyond. Tell us about this. 00:28:03 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, we've been having this necessary conversation about immigration policy in America, but we really look at it primarily through the lens of the economy, crime on our streets, et cetera. 00:28:14 Speaker 2: And that's very, very important. 00:28:16 Speaker 8: This book is about the weaponization of migration and how foreign governments and adversaries have weaponized our immigration system and what you're referring to is, in the case of China, how they are using so called birthright citizenship, and they've created a model on an industrial scale to I argue, subvert the country. 00:28:37 Speaker 2: So what do I mean, Well, birthright citizenship, of course, is. 00:28:40 Speaker 8: The idea that if you are born in the United States, you get automatic citizenship. Doesn't matter if your parents walked across the border, if your parents were here on vacation, you get birth here. 00:28:51 Speaker 2: You're an American citizen. 00:28:53 Speaker 8: Our federal government has absolutely no idea how many people do this every year, because when you get a birth certificate in the United States, they don't ask for the citizenship of the parents. They don't have any of that information. So we literally have no clue how much this has been happening in the country. 00:29:12 Speaker 2: What I point out is that the Chinese do. 00:29:14 Speaker 8: The Chinese have actually tracked and have pretty strong estimates on how many Chinese nationals have done this in the United States, and the number, at least to me, is absolutely shocking. The Chinese government says over the last thirteen years, roughly one hundred thousand Chinese nationals have done this a year. Over the course of the last thirteen years, so you're talking about a million, more than a million people, So what does that mean. That means that you have a million people in China that were born here. Their parents flew here for the purposes of giving birth. The child is born here, they're given citizenship. They fly them back to China where they are raised in CCP schools. They get government propaganda there. Parents are primarily from. 00:30:01 Speaker 2: The Chinese elite. 00:30:02 Speaker 8: But when they turn eighteen, they're going to be able to vote, they're going to be able to donate to political campaigns, they're going to be able to get government jobs. It's a massive, massive national security problem, and the Chinese government. 00:30:15 Speaker 2: Has encouraged this and pushed it. 00:30:17 Speaker 8: They've run articles in the People's Daily, which is their major newspaper, telling members of the Chinese elite, you can do this, you have a right to do this, and we are completely oblivious that this is. 00:30:30 Speaker 2: Going on, Peter. 00:30:31 Speaker 6: So they've run these ads, Yeah, these advertisements basically in the People's Daily about it. Do we see any evidence of them building up any plan, for example, to encourage them to using this in a strategic way, like, for example, deploying these Chinese citizens in specific states to swing specific elections or are they just are they sort of passively encouraging this, or are they seeing the direct uses of individual of these voter blobs in specific elections. 00:31:00 Speaker 2: No, that's a great question. 00:31:01 Speaker 8: So they've run ads in People's Daily, But the People Daily has also run newspaper articles I quote from them in the Invisible Coup, where the Chinese government says, you have a right to do this, we encourage you to do this. You also have this large industry that the Chinese government allows to operate, whereby there are agencies, primarily in California, that say to CCP officials, pay US fifty thousand dollars, we'll teach you how to get into the United States. We will set you up at a nice place to stay, we'll set up a hospital, your child will be born, we make sure that they get the citizenship, and then we'll arrange for you to fly back. 00:31:39 Speaker 2: So it's a massive industry. They did this. 00:31:42 Speaker 8: For a while in Hong Kong in the early two thousands. Hong Kong obviously smaller than the United States. The government of Hong Kong at that time was more independent. 00:31:52 Speaker 2: They stopped it. 00:31:52 Speaker 8: They realized what was going on, and they stopped it and said no more birthright citizenship from mainland China. So the wave of this is going to start hitting in twenty twenty eight, twenty thirty, so that's when we're first going to see this instituted. And there's another side of this, guys. There's the Chinese nationals that fly here, give birth and get citizenship. 00:32:15 Speaker 2: That way, there's the. 00:32:16 Speaker 8: Added problem and this really sounds like out of science fiction, but it's true, involving surrogacy, and these are Chinese nationals men who donate their sperm. 00:32:27 Speaker 2: They find a carrier. 00:32:29 Speaker 8: As they call it, a woman in the United States to conceive the child, carry the child. Then that child is taken back to China, where again they've got US citizenship. In this case, they're born to an American mother, but they are raised by the father and or parents back in China. 00:32:47 Speaker 2: Again, we have no idea how often this takes place. 00:32:51 Speaker 8: What we do know is based on our research that in southern California alone, there are one hundred and seven Chinese own some surrogacy companies that are doing this, So you can imagine the scale that we might be dealing with here. 00:33:05 Speaker 6: In fact, I want to repeat one of these facts because I think people might underestimate how this is. There's a shoe bo is one of these Chinese billionaires. He is, I think it's a mobile gaming company that he created. He is reported to have more than one hundred biological children born through these surrogates. According to the Wall This is the Wall Street Journal. He supposedly seeks to have one at least fifty high quality sons who can take over business, his businesses and I guess American businesses as well. There's there's a certain kind of insane maximalism you can see with some of these Chinese billionaires dozens hundreds of kids. 00:33:45 Speaker 3: It's interesting, too, Peter, because I was just following somebody who who researches fertility rates, and actually China's fertility rate is collapsing, which is a fascinating parallel story that's going on here. This particular researcher puts it at about point nine to three per couple, which is far far below replacement level. Obviously, they're having as many children in China as they were in seventeen seventy six. That was sort of the big headline from So you got to go back hundreds of years to get this level of fertility which is collapsing. It's collapsing around the world, but especially in China. So it's interesting that simultaneous with that you have this move of birth tourism to create US citizen Chinese CCP trained US citizens. So it's just, yeah, I don't know what to make of that exactly, but it is a fascinating detail. 00:34:35 Speaker 8: Now, that's a great, great point, and it relates to the decision of the Chinese government made to have this One China policy, which they finally lifted just about ten years ago. It was enacted in nineteen eighty and it basically said they were fearful of over population, so they told people in China, you can only have one child because we need to limit population growth in China. Well, if you tell a large, usually rural peasant community, they can only have one child, they want to have a boy. They want a strong boy who can do all the farm work. So what has happened in China is you have this massive demographic disparity where you have literally several hundred million men between the age of you know, say, thirty and forty five that have no prospects of finding a Chinese woman because they were all aborted with this one child policy. So the surrogacy program and the program of you know, finding an American carrier a woman to carry your child, get citizenship for them, bring them back to China. And then, by the way, when your child who's a US citizen turns eighteen, they can get you as the parent permanent residence status. So there's that added benefit. But the bottom line is this is a direct consequences of the policies that they carried out with the One China policy. 00:35:58 Speaker 2: And what's troubling you is what do you do with a. 00:36:01 Speaker 8: Situation like a country like China that is having these demographic problems, which may have economic problems in the future, that is creating this large reservoir of people living in their own country who can vote in American elections, that could be subject to coercion, threats, etc. It's an enormous problem that we have not even paid attention to. 00:36:23 Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons I wrote the book. 00:36:25 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it kind of begs the question because we're going to be doing oral arguments on the birthright citizenship case in front of the Supreme Court. That's going to be happening in it sounds like spring so April timeframe, and then you probably a decision in summer. But then it if you know that the system is being rigged, it's being manipulated by Chinese birth tourist or maybe other countries are involved. 00:36:51 Speaker 5: I'm certain that's true. 00:36:53 Speaker 3: You know, do you think of the anchor baby phenomenon as usually a Latin American thing? But listen, if you know that the system is being rigged, and you should be able to block the naturalization of some of these people or reverse it, denaturalize and deport. 00:37:07 Speaker 5: Whether or not we have the. 00:37:08 Speaker 3: Political will or the political fortitude to do those things, it certainly seems like a logical next step the invisible coup, and it's a it's fantabicion. If there's so many insights here, I think, you know, we're just touching it on one element of it. But at the subtitle is how American elites and form powers use immigration as a weapon. But now we have this, this whole China angle, Peter Schweitzer, and we've got we have a clip from Ursula that would probably be worth worth playing here. I just love saying the name Ursula. It is okay, so this is too. Ninety eight from Ursula vonder Land at Davos ninety eight. 00:37:46 Speaker 9: Nineteen seventy one was the year of the so called Nixon Shock and the decision to dealing the US dollar from gold in an instant. The foundations of the Breton Wood system and the entire global economic order set up after the war effectively collapsed. But it also had two major effects. It inadvertently created the conditions for what would become a truly global order. The seismic change we are going through today is an opportun tunity, in fact, a necessity to build a new form of Europe. 00:38:32 Speaker 3: It kind of got cut off there, but a new form of Europe. And then you have mccron welcoming Chinese direct investment. We had doctor Larry arn On before you, and he said he's long predicted that Europe would would run to China the second that we called the billdu on some of their free loading. 00:38:53 Speaker 5: What is your want? 00:38:54 Speaker 3: You've studied China and the way that they do institutional capture, the way they use economic warfare to insinuate themselves, whether that be into mineral deposits and rare earth minerals, minds ports. What is your your warning or your note to Europe as they consider as they're flirting with the CCP. 00:39:16 Speaker 8: Here, well, I think in my mind the key word is flirting. 00:39:20 Speaker 2: They may go down this path, but. 00:39:22 Speaker 8: I think it's going to be an enormous mistake because they're going to find if they don't like Donald Trump needling them about not carrying their weight, wait until Jijingping or a Chinese leader is mad to them about some trade policy or some issue that they're carrying out, or or there are too many vocal anti China protests taking place in Berlin and China wants them to halt. But what you're seeing is this global battle taking place. A lot of the things that Donald Trump is doing on the global stage are actually connected to the to the China threat. He recognizes, for example, that the fentanyl in the United States is primarily driven by China, not by the Mexican drug cartels. As I laid out in a previous book, the Mexican drug cartels are really the junior partners here because at every stage in the fentanyl trail, from the precursor chemicals to when it's sold on our streets to when the money is laundered by the drug cartels, that all runs through China. Trump recognizes that he recognized the importance that Venezuela represented as a outpost for China to operate in Latin America, and how Venezuela was pressuring other countries, for example, like Mexico to fall further into the Chinese orbit. So I think this battle is taking place. The good news is China is a massive threat. 00:40:45 Speaker 2: They do believe. They are already at war with us. 00:40:47 Speaker 8: They call it disintegration warfare, and they're prepared to do a whole host of things short of a shooting war to achieve their objectives. But the futures with the United States, they have a massive democratic problem. They have made this sort of market leninism system work where they have kind of free markets but dictated and controlled by the government. But that is not going to work in the era of technological innovation in areas like AI. I'm very confident if we adopt a program that allows us to work effectively in this area, we're going to kick their ass. 00:41:25 Speaker 2: And they know that. 00:41:26 Speaker 8: So they have got to come up with partnerships and alliances to try to compete with the United States. Europe I think right now is trying to signal that they want to stand up the Trump on Greenland and on some of these other issues. But I'm pretty confident that there will be an agreement struck in China will not make the gains that they're hoping to make. They're not a good partner really for anybody. Anybody that partners with China is end up going to end up with economic disparity, political manipulation, and attempted control. Not the kind of bargain that any country wants to make as far as I'm concerned. 00:42:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're making a deal with the devil. And yeah, you know, you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. I think that's a good example of it. You know what's an interesting piece of this, Peter, I was reading that as Trumpet and the Trump administration has been shutting down some of these fentanyl flows into the into the interior of the United States, that that that precursor product and that product in general has to find another, uh place to go. And there's there's now early indications that a lot of that fentanyl is starting to flow into markets in Europe, and so you know, Europe's going to be confronting the same fentanyl crisis that we've been confronting as we shut it down here, it's going to find a home, it's going to find a market. And you know, just because you know Trump's on China's rear on that to get them to stop doesn't mean they're going to stop completely. So I don't know if you have any intel on that. 00:42:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're exactly You're right. Look, the bottom line, what you what people have. 00:42:56 Speaker 8: To understand is Jijing paying the President of China. He cut his political teeth. His movement to the national political stage was in Fujian Province, where he was the political leader. Fujian Province is ground zero for Chinese organized crime. He and his family and other CCP leaders have deep ties to Chinese organized crime. These are the criminal networks that introduced fentanol to the drug cartels and said we can boost your profits thirty times move away from cocaine and. 00:43:26 Speaker 2: Start delivering this stuff. And you are exactly right. 00:43:29 Speaker 8: They will shift to other venues if they can't sell it in the United States because this is part of the way that the CCP. 00:43:35 Speaker 2: Operates, this alliance they have with Chinese. 00:43:38 Speaker 3: Organized and they want to they want to destroy the West in general. They want they want to destabilize us. They're going to poison us and get us addicted to fentanyl again, The Invisible Coup, Peter Schweitzer, great work, my friend. 00:43:48 Speaker 5: That was That was phenomenal. Thank you so much. 00:43:50 Speaker 3: Congratulations, thanks for having me 00:43:56 Speaker 7: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, like Kirk dot com