Who Gets To Replace Lindsey Graham? + Who Is MAGA?

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And I think Blake's title for today's show, what is Maga? Is a? Is it? I think it's a really apt way to sort of frame it. Traveling didn't have a lot of time to keep up with it. I turned on the phone and the computer on basically last night because somebody sent me some oscar clips, and then I started going through everything and I was like, Holy holy cow, everybody hates everybody. The e drama is through the roof, and we got a very contentious war going on in Iran, and I think what the best thing that we can do on this show is how to walk through this very tumultuous moment that we're living in where I think a lot of us just want to focus on domestic issues. We want to focus on nation building at home. Unfortunately, that's not exactly the most obvious thing for any of us to do because of so much noise that's going around. Blake, I'm gonna throw to you first and foremost. You asked the question, what is maga? Define it for us? What is MAGA right now? In this moment with Iran, with like I said, the e drama and so much else. 00:02:56 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, part of the reason, the reason you know we titled that way is we did. Of course, we've seen, uh, we saw friction over the weekend. We won't get into the full details of it because it's a little silly, but you know, Megan Kelly was in a fight with Mark Levin that's obviously rooted in the Iran stuff, and you know, obviously personality friction as well. And what happened last night was the president, untruth social decided to weigh in on it personally, and he took the side. 00:03:24 Speaker 4: He didn't name Meghan, but he took. 00:03:26 Speaker 5: He supported Mark Levin, and one of the lines he said at the end of his post was basically that people who are bashing Livin going after him, those people are not maga. 00:03:37 Speaker 4: I am is what he said. 00:03:39 Speaker 5: And one interpretation of mega is it basically is it is the people who support it is President Trump. President Trump, he ran on that slogan. He has the power to define what that slogan is. But does everyone feel that way because a lot of people have tried to articulate a mega agenda in terms of issues, whether that's on immigration, whether that's on interventionism, whether that's on trade, and a lot of other stuff. And so that's kind of why it's an open question, because I think there is is there is there a MAGA that stands separately from the president himself and the president himself I think, you know, unsurprisingly given Trump's personality, he does mostly see it in terms of his personal branding. 00:04:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so Jack, I think you know that is one contention, right, this is something that the President has said over and over again, I am MAGA, and those who kind of come at me right now, they're not loyal to the cause. You are. In OG twenty sixteen twenty fifteen, Maga, You know, I would call you one of the leaders on the social media side, and you've been that way for about a decade now. You know, there does seem to be fraying at the at the at the fringes here, especially about foreign policy. So what do you do when everything's up in tumult people are use which way to go and what to make of it? How are you approaching this moment? 00:05:03 Speaker 6: Yeah, so there's you know, these definitional questions come up a lot. And at the same time, I would also point out that, you know, Maga, the coalition, the people who have voted for Trump, that has changed over time as well. So the twenty twenty four coalition, the coalition that Charlie works so hard to put together, that turning point action worked on. That's different than the twenty sixteen coalition. 00:05:32 Speaker 3: And the groups. 00:05:33 Speaker 6: Obviously it was much more successful in twenty four to sucteen. You know, you can't take anything away from the historic nature of that. It was obviously something that was unprecedented, But twenty twenty four, just in terms of sheer, raw numbers points on the board, victory was bigger, and the difference I guess I would say is that in twenty twenty four, it was this coalition that came together where instead of just you know, twenty sixteen was sort of like the anti NEOs, the Bernie Bros. And you're sort of like traditional Republicans. But in twenty twenty four, and of course the anti neocons are obviously have a lot of consternation right now, and so the twenty twenty four coalition was even broader and bigger than that, because now you've got Maha, Now you've got the Libertarians. 00:06:22 Speaker 3: Now you of course you have the anti neocons. 00:06:24 Speaker 6: And of course there's a lot of overlap with the with the you know, libertarian crowd there as well. You've got people who were motivated by COVID, You've got in lockdowns, you've got people who were motivated by DEI, by wokeness. I mean, you just got so many people coming in in twenty twenty four that inevitably there was going to be some friction points between the massive uh you know, the massive parts of the massive coalition. And of course now you've also in twenty four got the Zoomers on board, which is like a whole different you know, quotient in and of itself, and that was the part that Charlie and TPUSA had worked so hard on all through those years. So if you look at it right, like if you were in high school when Trump first ran, you know, twenty twenty four may have been the first time you voted, or you know somewhere you know voted for president at least, and so you're just doing the math. So this was like the Charlie Kirk Coalition in twenty twenty four. And so the way you work on things like this is very simple. Look, Donald Trump is the president of the United States. Donald Trump is the founder of the MAGA movement. But just like any coalition, there are going to be different elements within that movement, and so you know, you can get caught up in these definitional games. But I do think that ultimately we're better served by people just sort of saying like, this is what I stand for, this is what I think the best policy is, and just arguing it out in those terms, rather than trying to say, you know, one person is this and one person isn't allowed to be that. I think that's I think that leads to subtraction. And we all know the victories through addition. 00:08:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think what you're getting at this coalitional truth that we need to build a coalition. There is no more contentious issue on the right. There's just simply not than foreign policy. Because the divide between the neocons and the interventionist is not just a divide, it's a chasm. And so in one sense, as soon as the Iran conflicts started, there should be no surprise that this has become so contentious. President Trump said four weeks he said he was willing to move that timeline up or back. So we kind of are still in that time of uncertainty. We don't know how this is going to play out. There's a very positive way this could play out. There's a more negative way this could play out, which is why Charlie warned against regime change in Iran. Right, we don't know all of the ancillary side effects. We don't know how this could devolve into some sort of civil war, sectarian strife within Iran. The strait up her moves is proving particularly tricky and difficult. We're going to get into what the President is trying to do. You in the strait of horror, Moose build a coalition of different countries to come in and clear up the straight of horror. Moose, we're allowing Indian and Chinese. It sounds like vessels tankers to go through the strait of horror moods. 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But President Trump defines it as you know, this is he's the founder of this movement, and so get in line. He's been very consistent to his credit about Iran over the years. A lot of US harbor skepticisms about regime change in the Middle East. So what do you make of this moment? As you know, everything seems to be a mess out there. 00:11:24 Speaker 8: Yeah, everything does seem to be a mess out there. And I disagree with Trump that MAGA is Trump. I think Trump captured an ethos that was already out there. I think he tapped into something that so many Americans were feeling. 00:11:38 Speaker 7: And I think. 00:11:38 Speaker 8: MAGA has more to do with a set of values and perspectives than it does a single man. 00:11:43 Speaker 7: Otherwise it would not be a movement that would continue. 00:11:46 Speaker 8: And that's a movement that continued throughout Biden's four years, and I think it's a movement that will continue after Trump is gone. I think MAGA has to do with putting America first, American priorities in terms of the domestic situation, in terms of prosperity and equal access to opportunity in a lot of cases, you know, for Americans, which means that your schools are decent. 00:12:08 Speaker 7: And you can go to them and attend them, which means. 00:12:11 Speaker 8: That you're getting a fair shake in the housing market and it's not all being bought up by corporations, you know, which means that when you go. 00:12:18 Speaker 7: To apply for a job or go to apply to college, your. 00:12:20 Speaker 8: Merit is what's taken into consideration, not some random identity factors. And I think that MAGA has to be a set of values more than it can be possibly just one man. Otherwise you can't stand for anything right, You can't stand on shifting sands of perspectives and ideas. You have to stand for something or else. You know, as they say, you'll fall for anything. 00:12:42 Speaker 4: Jack, I want to get you back in on this because I think, by the way Libby you you probably articulated Blake's POV pretty well, I would think. But I'll let Blake answer that, just say go ahead, go ahead. 00:12:54 Speaker 5: But no, no, it's great, it's just uh no, let's let Jack go. Let's look at Jack go here. 00:12:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jack, I want to get you to fond to that. But you know you are the kind of foreign intel analyst you're you're watching this space all the time, but yet you are domestic in your focus as well. How do you marry the two of these right now? 00:13:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great point. 00:13:13 Speaker 6: So you know this is obviously like I do a lot of geopol analysis, and I actually was an eve intelligence officer, you know, and you know, so this is something that's always you know, of a great interest. 00:13:26 Speaker 3: When when we have these things. 00:13:27 Speaker 6: Come up, I'm like, aha, finally, so everyone understands why I post maps about choke points and maritime trade routes so much. It seems like totally arcane until it everyone finds out how much it really really matters in the world. And you know that being said, the questions of what will be successful politically are are certainly different from how the world economy operates and how the world economics operate back and forth. 00:13:56 Speaker 3: And so you know, I've always said that. 00:13:57 Speaker 6: Look, I thought that when I was in the United States Navy and when I was in the intelligence community serving as I did that I started to get the feeling that perhaps our focus as a country was too abroad. Our focus was not enough on our own issues, on things that actually mattered to us, on things that actually affected us in our country, like the southern border, like the cartels, like the issues of problems in crime in our city, the issues of mass migration. All of those issues are the issues that built the MAGA movement. That's what brought us all on board and brought us all together in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen, with of course the leader and singular man of that movement being Donald J. Trump, And when he came down the Golden Escalator, that's exactly what he talked about. And so certainly it's been this idea that we are going to shift the focus. And you may kind of say that just analytically, I guess you could say that if there is a split anymore, it's not within MAGA. 00:14:56 Speaker 3: The split is more MAGA and then America First. 00:14:59 Speaker 6: Right, So MAGA is more we back Trump, we want Trump to be you know, you know, he's our guy one hundred percent. You know, we may have certain, you know, certain differences on tactics here and there, but we're going. 00:15:11 Speaker 3: To stand with Trump. 00:15:12 Speaker 6: Then America First is this group that says we don't want to do, you know, anything foreign, it's domestic only. 00:15:19 Speaker 3: Domestic has to be in the front. 00:15:21 Speaker 6: And that movement is something that, interestingly enough, you start to see Democrats dipping into You start to see Mandami talk about this, and we when we did the debate analysis we talked about that. You start to see things like Gavin Newsom talk about this where he's saying, oh, I want to focus here and not abroad, So it's it's become this sort of jump ball I feel right now, and I think the Democrats are going to try. Their next move is going to be to say, oh, well, you guys are for foreign intervention. 00:15:49 Speaker 3: We're the true America first, So. 00:15:51 Speaker 4: Watch for that, Blake, I invoked your name earlier to get. 00:15:55 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, No, I think that's reasonable. I think I think they're all on good points that, especially those of us who've been around this movement a long time, there is a strong sense, oh Mega, we want MAGA to last beyond Trump. One reason you don't want to say MAGA is just Trump is Trump will. 00:16:13 Speaker 3: Not be around forever. 00:16:14 Speaker 5: Trump will eventually be gone, and we still want a movement that is not neo kon GOP, that is not George Bush GOP, that is not the Gop of old. But it is also very much the case that through kind of repeated trials, repeated events, MAGA has ended up being, for lack of a better term, like Trump has oscillated in different directions. He's caught us off guard, and he's always stuck around, and the movement has really become very much how to put this, I will say President Trump has a point if he says, like I am maga and to some extent, the movement is basically what I say it is, because he's repeatedly defined it that way, and he is kind of bashed away and like battered off every single challenger who would suggest it was anything else. And so I think Jack has a point that maybe you need to articulate another phrase like America First or or whatever you want to take this package of views so that is not one hundred percent identical to one person. And this is the thing about the right. 00:17:19 Speaker 4: The right is more hierarchical. 00:17:21 Speaker 5: We are more inclined to basically get in line behind our guy if he says this is the right thing to do, if he says, this is what we need to be doing. 00:17:30 Speaker 4: Uh, And. 00:17:33 Speaker 5: So yeah, I think we may, you know, it might be a good idea to have another label for the issues that we care about. 00:17:39 Speaker 4: You know. So I've gotten attacked I think blake you and I on this show for being you know, I think they took a clip out of context. The Internet did and said we were we were departing from Charlie's view on Iran. He was super anti war, and yeah, Charlie was super anti war, but you know, we were warning about against the perils of herme change in the Middle East as well before the lead up. But Charlie sort of in this divide that you're you're you're mentioning here, Jack, it was his decision was always Listen, I worked my butt off to get President Trump elected, even when I privately have differences of opinion. I'm going to back the guy because there's been no other fighter that we have in the modern era that has so embodied the values that I care most about. And so I'm gonna get behind him, and We're gonna hope for the best. I'm gonna argue his points. There's a there's a point to be made, and so I you know, that's kind of what we do here. A couple of things I can't abide by. I cannot abide by not supporting our troops. I cannot abide by not wishing success on this country. I cannot abide by any of that stuff. I can't abide abide by the brain rot where you're trying to scapegoat people. Uh So, listen, yeah, this is these are perilous, uh gut wrenching times that make us all sort of, you know, wonder how it's gonna work out. But we've been here before with President Trump. Charlie understood this, and he ultimately did place his trust and his support behind the President when he made tough calls. So I think we're just sort of stuck in this time. 00:19:08 Speaker 1: You know. 00:19:08 Speaker 4: President Trump said four to five weeks. Okay, we're in the four to five weeks. Here, buckle up, everybody, here we go. Let's hope this ends well, and let's pray for the success of our troops. Libby, what am I missing? 00:19:19 Speaker 1: No? 00:19:19 Speaker 7: I agree with you on that to a certain extent. Yes, now that we're in this war, I want us to win it. 00:19:24 Speaker 8: I want us to win it decisively, and I want our troops to come home and be out of harm's way. 00:19:28 Speaker 7: That's a huge deal. I support our troops one hundred percent. 00:19:31 Speaker 8: I do think that it's difficult to look at this entanglement as someone who is pretty much anti war and come away with, you know, and come away with the perspective that this was the right thing to do at the right time. 00:19:45 Speaker 7: I'm not sure about that, you know, And I think time will tell it. 00:19:48 Speaker 8: Certainly, history will let us know, I'm someone who marched against the Iraq war way back in two thousand and three. I'm not prepared to go out and be marching against this war at this point. You know, I've definitely looked back at my life and said, perhaps shutting down the fifty ninth Street bridge was not the best idea, and maybe I wouldn't do that again. 00:20:06 Speaker 7: But yeah, I think that there's I think that there's concerns. 00:20:09 Speaker 8: Arguing about whether or not we should back our troops is not something we should argue about. 00:20:14 Speaker 7: Everyone should be backing our troops. 00:20:16 Speaker 8: I also think that what Jack said, that this is giving the Democrats an area where they can really start to make some inroads with the American people is something that we should be watching out for, because it's hard to look at the Democrats, you know, and not see all of the things that they are also going to be advocating for, continuing to trans kids, continuing the American genocide of abortion. You know, there were like a million, close to a million abortions I think in twenty twenty four. That's an insane number. So if conservatives really want to make sure that they have a hold of some of these issues and can save lives in this country. We have some states that are on board with euthanasia. This none of this stuff can go forward, and so we have to be wary of all of those things. 00:20:59 Speaker 4: Yeah said, I mean, I find the Democrats to be completely unacceptable, but they are going to We are giving them an avenue to be the America first in some ways, at least politically. From a messaging standpoint, I don't believe any of it. I want to give a quick word a note of Susie Wildsman diagnosed with breast cancer. President Trump put out a truth to that, so our prayers are with her for her health and safety. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about why Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. 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A statesman is a man at the highest moment. When you have the weight of the shoulders, like Churchill or Lincoln of the world on your shoulders, you act with prudence and not on ideological fervor. President Donald Trump is a man made for this moment. This is why President Trump was elected president of the United States. It's the man in the arena that counts. But I encourage you, as you view the next couple of days, to not view things overly ideological. In fact, we should resist ideological fervor. 00:23:09 Speaker 4: Resist ideological fervor the man in the arena. I am still on this point that yes, I was not pro in, you know, regime change in Iran, but I will back President Trump's play here. He's earned our trust. He is the man in the arena right now, and we have to must pray for the success of our troops in our country that this ultimately would work out in a way that would benefit America first as we try to define it. But listen, the longer this goes on, there's no doubt that this will become more and more difficult. All right, Libby, I'm gonna get to your why we actually brought you onto the show today, and that is that the Oscars. The Oscars took a swipe at the All American halftime show yesterday and so we got to play it cut seventeen. 00:23:54 Speaker 9: I should warn you tonight could get okay, And if that means you uncomfortable, there's an alternate OSCARS being hosted by Kid Rock. Yeah, it's at the David Busters down the street. 00:24:07 Speaker 4: A lot of tickets for that. All right, Libby, we see that we see SNL is got Tucker Carlson, you know, making fun of him. We are living through a remarkable cultural moment that we need to pause and appreciate, and that's why I brought you on here. What do you make of this? The Oscars? What do you make of snl all of it? 00:24:30 Speaker 8: Yeah, so you know the thing with the thing with the Oscars, Conan O'Brien, somebody didn't tell him that twenty five million people actually streamed the Turning Point. 00:24:39 Speaker 4: No, Libby, I'm so Libby. Yes, the way Nielsen rates it, we had over fifty million people. 00:24:46 Speaker 8: Oh well, okay, I was just tracking back this morning through my previous notes and I didn't see that. 00:24:51 Speaker 7: So amazing. 00:24:52 Speaker 8: Congratulations again, But yeah, someone didn't tell Conan that. Someone didn't tell Conan that Americans are moving away from the box office, you know, like never before. 00:25:01 Speaker 7: I took a look at some of the. 00:25:03 Speaker 8: Stats, and American Beauty, which won the Best Picture back in two thousand, made about the same as Sinners, which sort of came in second place this year. So it's not like things are going better for Hollywood than they were even twenty six years ago. Nobody's really interested in that. People don't like watching the Oscars. You know, so I think that I think that's something to recognize. Timothy Shalame's recent comments about opera and ballet being guying art forms could just as easily be applied to the cinema. These Hollywood people should recognize that, and instead they just lament that more people should go to the box office. If you look at some of the Oscar speeches or the SAG speeches, the Golden Globe speeches this year during the whole awards season. 00:25:48 Speaker 7: You'll see multiple multiple. 00:25:49 Speaker 8: Directors, writers, actors telling people to bring your kids to the movies. 00:25:54 Speaker 7: These are the same kinds of comments that I heard when I was a kid. Bring your kids to the theater, bring your kids to the opera, let them know, bring them to the ballet. You know, like all of this stuff. 00:26:03 Speaker 8: And instead these are still just dying art forms and eventually they will disappear to a certain extent or become niche or whatever. And as for SNL, yeah, they had some fun jokes. 00:26:14 Speaker 4: Yeah, Libby, Libby, I've actually it's a longer clip, but it is. It is worth playing because everybody has a bit of a stake here in Tucker Carlson. We're all sharing a similar mediums and we all hear about it, and Blake used to write for him. Jack is closed with them. Here we go, cut twenty four. 00:26:32 Speaker 9: Well, many are excited for the Oscar tomorrow. 00:26:34 Speaker 6: Some people think liberal politics are influencing the awards too much. Here with his take is conservative commentator Tucker Carlson. 00:26:46 Speaker 10: Collar, let's all go to the movies. 00:26:50 Speaker 4: Huh really? 00:26:52 Speaker 10: Yes, why don't we grab some popcorn and watch American culture collapse? 00:26:57 Speaker 4: What are we doing? 00:26:58 Speaker 10: Why don't we talk about sinners? That's right, sinners, because of course, leftist, woke America's favorite movie this year is about sinning. 00:27:06 Speaker 5: Huh really? 00:27:08 Speaker 10: Why does that not surprise me? 00:27:10 Speaker 11: No? 00:27:10 Speaker 10: Sorry, kids, we don't go to church anymore. We go to sinners. 00:27:14 Speaker 4: That's the rule. 00:27:16 Speaker 3: That's the goal. 00:27:16 Speaker 10: Now, what about handle it, oh, Hamnet, because we're not allowed to say Hamlet anymore. 00:27:22 Speaker 4: No, No, took. 00:27:24 Speaker 10: The L and gave it to the GBTQ. 00:27:27 Speaker 5: Took the L and gave it to GBTQ. A is actually is pretty witty. I kind of wish one of us had come up with that. At some point, I thought. 00:27:34 Speaker 4: Well, they BUSNL actually had a great MA hospital like Mohamed. I think we played it in the cold over. It was actually funny. Uh Jack. You people don't know this, but you have, you have your own critic, uh you know, background, film critic, TV critic background here true, So what do you make of this cultural moment we're living? It does feel a bit like we're such are our side is so completely messed up in so many ways that we're giving them lots of fodder. But what's your take? 00:28:03 Speaker 3: Well, first of. 00:28:03 Speaker 6: All, you know, I got to respond on the halftime show because our ratings clearly clearly if you look at what the Turning Point Events team, if you look at what the Turning Point Action team and everyone coming together did to get the ratings for the number one American YouTube livestream in history, forty million households day of viewing in the first twenty four hours. And if you computed it the way as you say, computed it the way Nielsen does household you'd probably be looking at fifty to sixty million people because they always use the multiplier for the Super Bowl viewership, and we know that there were people at least twos and threes and fours watching our halftime show. So I'd love to go back and Conan, you have not had anything that's rated in twenty plus years. You went down to Haiti, and we're trying to like talk about how great Haiti is and walking around sipping my ties while you've got cannibals named barbecue running around. So No Conan Turning Point Usa Blue absolutely blew the Oscars out of the water, and I can't wait to see their overnights because I know it's lower when you look at the cultural moment. 00:29:11 Speaker 3: You know, I'm just going to say it. 00:29:12 Speaker 6: I tweeted this morning about the Oscars that the Oscars has now become a contest of who can make the most anti white movie. 00:29:19 Speaker 3: So you've got Sinners, which. 00:29:20 Speaker 6: Is basically from Dust Till Dawn with BLM killing white people. 00:29:25 Speaker 3: Then you've got the Leo Leonardo DiCaprio movie. 00:29:30 Speaker 6: And it's an Antifa raid on an ice facility. I mean, it's like the most insane one fight after another, and so it's just the most insane liberal far left anti white stuff gets the most awards. 00:29:44 Speaker 1: You know. 00:29:44 Speaker 4: I tweeted out that I didn't even know that it was going on last night because I didn't I was busy hanging out with my kids and I was sent the clip and I just said, I didn't realize it was going on. But it's very clear that we live rent free in their minds because they all noticed it. And I just want to say one last thing. If the world is losing its mind, we're gonna keep ours. And that's why we do things like the Halftime Show. That's why the two largest cultural touchpoint moments of the last six months, or Charlie's memorial and the Halftime Show. We are gonna keep building, keep moving forward, because the only way through is through. Thank you, Libby and Jack. 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Senator Lindsay Graham gets boot off the stage at Trump's South Carolina rally, absolutely humiliated. The base is done with neocons who want to spend our money to bomb far away lands. Feels very relevant to our current moment. Fix our border, use the military to wipe out the cartels, and we'll respect you ignore the domestic crisis at your own perils. So that was just a few years ago, and of course we agree with it wholeheartedly. We're gonna have a special treat here though. We're gonna have Paul Dans and his competitor in the primary, Lynch as well. You're gonna hear from both of them. We're gonna let you decide, So email us Freedom at Charliekirk dot com, Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. So, without further ado, our first guest is Paul Dan's. He's running for US Senate for the Great State of South Carolina. Welcome to the show, sir, gentlemen. 00:32:55 Speaker 11: Great to be with you. 00:32:56 Speaker 4: Well, it's so good to have you. My perspective right now, I'm keeping an open mind on both of you, and I'm saying it, as long as it's not Lindsey Graham, I'm excited. That's how I feel right now. But you have voters to appeal to in the state of South Carolina and they need to hear directly from you, and so you know that's the that's the point of this moment right now. So what is it going to take to beat Lindsay Graham and why are you the right candidate to do that? 00:33:21 Speaker 11: Well, as of today, Lindsey Graham's going down. That's the good news. He's way below fifty percent in South Carolina. We have a runoff state, So top two people going to runoff two weeks later. Look, I'm the generational change candidate. I'm a guy who's been MAGA from the jump. I helped President Trump as a volunteer get elected. I served in his first term. I was what they call one of his killers. I worked at HUD under doctor Carson and then later OPM, the Office of Personal Management. I was the guy who actually put in schedule F and really wrestled the whole proposition of personnelist policy. I took over that federal agency, gave it back to the president. So a guy who's been in the trenches, an actual guy in the arena prison Trump. He's meeting with the Kennedy Center board today. He actually put my wife on him. She's in world famous ballery of Mary Helen Bowers. And as we speak, we are waiting baby number five. We were at the forty week mark today. Guys, So you hear something off off camera, I. 00:34:22 Speaker 4: Can test I saw your wife briefly behind you as we were prepping for this, and she's she's pregnant. I can attest you know that that baby's got to be nearly ready, So you know, okay, So I guess the dig on you from the Lynch camp is that you know you're not a native South Carolina and Carolinian. Where are you from and what do you have to say to that attack? 00:34:49 Speaker 11: Well, it's it's a really dumb attack. I'm grew up in Maryland mainly, but my dad was in the military and he was a Vietnam fat We moved around and actually half a lot of our popular here are military dependents, so that's a really bad idea to go after military dependence. But I got married here twenty years ago on John's Island, to my Carolina bride, and we have been living here going on ten years next year, so we have four point nine to nine kids, and I have a stake in the future. I live the life that Charlie talked about that going to church, getting married, having kids. I took all three of those very seriously, probably the last one the most. But this is about generational change, you know. I go around to the TPUSA chapters and there's excitement whether I'm at the College at Charleston or University of South Carolina, Clemson Anderson Coastal Carolina. Everyone here, you know, Southern Charleston, Charleston, Southern Rather are excited for a candidate who's out there living the life. I was the architect of Project twenty twenty five, so I have a vision for what this great state could be again, and that's really what I want to do. I want to make this a place for our kids and the next generation can have kids and come together and live as God intended in a land of milk and honey. Here in South Carolina. 00:36:06 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, well the whole schedule f that was one of my favorite ideas that emerged. And so I just want to make sure I pause and give you some kudos if that was your brain child. I think that was a really big shot across the deep state swamp. Bow right there, Blake, I'm throw it to you. Next question to you, sir. 00:36:28 Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, And if any of you have questions you want to ask, this is the time. 00:36:31 Speaker 1: To do it. 00:36:31 Speaker 5: Send us email Forreedam at Charliekirk dot com, for Dan's or for Lynch later in the hour. We'd love to see those. I suppose a thing a lot of people are just gonna want to know, and I'm just straightforwardly is what meaningful change are they going to get by swapping from Graham to you? And I think this is your chance to answer specifically, For example, how are you on questions like the filibuster on the Save Act, on the Scam Act? What needs to change within the Senate? And I guess another follow up is should there be a change of leadership in the Senate on the GOP side? 00:37:05 Speaker 4: Right? 00:37:06 Speaker 11: Peace in our time? Okay, I'm not a warmonger. I'm a dad of five, and I want our kids to have a future in this in this great country. So yeah, look, I'm jeedising the Filbuster Day one. I am a real conservative, an America first guy, So I'm going to be doing foreign policy only through the lens of the US. First is what affects the people on the ground here in South Carolina. I'm offering generational change and what does that mean. It's giving our next generation the stake. Basically, you know, I want to put shop class back in middle and high schools. I want to teach kids to get ready for this big change with you know AI coming on. I'm offering a twenty first century Homesteading Act. What does that mean? That means declaring farmland critical infrastructure. Imagine setting up one hundred acre farm, letting this next put down roots and raise healthy, local, affordable food right here in South Carolina. This is what our ancestors did one hundred years ago. I'm going to tackle the opioid crisis here in South Carolina. We have two thousand people dying each year of opioids, and it's you know, it's the sort of thing where the sacklers, if you know, the sacklers they declared war here on our populations. 00:38:27 Speaker 4: This is really the Sacklers. 00:38:29 Speaker 11: Okay, so you know, the Sacklers were one of the groups that helped usher in the opioid crisis. There's a great documentary on this crime of the century. But this is a group that really went after White America as a genocide of sorts that we're really targeting populations. So we're now stepping back from that, saying, how can we fix South Carolina. Get money in the pockets of people who can help the victims, but also give them the new life the promise. And I go in campaign, I run into fan families and I told them my platform, and you know, literally, I was in Muriel's inlet last week. I'm talking to five people, a woman and a man that she tells me her son died of opioids, and the gentleman with her his daughter. So this is affecting everyone here. It's really an epidemic. But you know, we were really promising to make a future here. Our state, for those who haven't been here, is the worst in the country in terms of roads. Our infrastructure is thirty years behind, and we have a US center who spends every other weekend in foreign countries, whether he needs to or not. 00:39:34 Speaker 4: All right, let's just play a clip from Lindsey Graham to express and show what we're up against here. Cut eight. 00:39:40 Speaker 6: They wanted the Iranian stop as much as the israelis. 00:39:45 Speaker 1: God bless us. Right, we should move all our stuff to Israel. Thank you. 00:39:49 Speaker 4: I don't even know what he means there exactly, but it does seem to be a repeat theme. Paul Dance, what is your position on Israel, the war in Iran? How should we be approaching how should we be talking about it? I'm just going to show my own cards here one of my issues. It just seems like he's frothing at the mouth. They're so eager to bomb foreign lands. How would you be different? 00:40:11 Speaker 11: Well, he wants to bomb everything pretty much the moves. I am America first guy. I am a guy who trusted and Trump. We elected him as our commander in chief. How great trust in him. Look, I'm a believer in Israel and it's right to exist. But we have to measure everything by American's interests first. And here you have a guy who's talking about sending our sons and daughters off to war in the Middle East. It's really too much to We've gone through the prior wars of this twenty first century, and we know we as Charlie Warren, these are quagmires, and you know President Trump, we rely on him to kind of it. But right now we are very learly about any sort of ground war. We want to concentrate here at home in the West Hemisphere. Let's lock down from taradaf fuego up to Greenland. Let's make our self secure here so we don't have Chinese balloons floating over our country. 00:41:08 Speaker 4: So what do you what do you say to when President Trump says, listen, they were about to have an immunity shield. They were making all these missiles. Nobody was going to be able to attack the nuclear program that we've heard about for the last however many decades. What do you say, what's your reaction to that? 00:41:23 Speaker 11: Well, I'm trusting in Trump. I don't have access to that intelligence, but I do know that you know, with with Operation Midnight Hammer, they made a devastating blow. And right now we do have this strategic threat looming in the east, and we can't be everywhere at once. So that's really the warry. My worry is ultimately China and the threat matrix as we you know, take missiles off of out of South Korea and move them, you know, to points Middle East. Right now, the theory is that we have to protect ourselves, but let's start first by getting back on our own feet reindustrializing America. We can't even build those submarines here because we don't have welders. We don't have welders. Could be because we don't have shot class in school and high schools here. And so I'm fundamentally about building back America first. And if you throw me, you know, I'm endorsed by Tucker Carlson, So I have a lot of his perspective on Israel, but you know, I want to protect them, but also measure it within the realm of what the United States can do. 00:42:24 Speaker 4: At the stage, Blake, do you have a follow up for I think you know. 00:42:28 Speaker 5: What always goes with foreign policy is, of course immigration. Another question we like to ask candidates on immigration. Do you support an immigration moratorium or if not, what's your what's your ideal balance for how many people should be coming into America. 00:42:43 Speaker 11: I'm all for the moratorium. Look, and I also want to stop h one B visas. I want to start sending these fifty million visa holders home. I want American kids to be grad school students in engineering colleges. Again, I want thas who speak English. Look, I went to MIT, I went to public schools and got there. But we deserve a better educational system. And so that starts with this mass immigration. Lindsay Graham, of course, famously Grahamnesty. He's the guy who's been on watch for these thirty two years when twenty million came in here. He's the guy who offered the Afghan Adjustment Act to give people citizenship, the same ones who killed Sarah Beckstrom. She's the National guards woman assassinated within the block of the White House a Thanksgiving. So yes, we have to go after immigration, and that starts by giving our kids the opportunities here at home. 00:43:35 Speaker 4: So you know what we have to address the elephant in the room here, Paul, and that is that you know you say in Trump, we trust, we're trusting that he's making these tough decisions, but he's endorsed Lindsey Graham. So what do you do with that? It seems like you don't take it personally, but what do you tell the voters in South Carolina about that. 00:43:57 Speaker 11: Well, let's remember Trump endorsed Lindsay Graham back in March. I jumped in this race in August. It's because I couldn't hold my nose and I was not on the radar for President Trump. So I jumped in this because I've been a Trump guy from the jump. When Lindsay Graham was saying, you know that he'd be the worst president or disaster for the Republican Party, went on to pass that dossier over to the FBI. I'm a guy who was working for President Trump and in the war room. So look, I don't take it personally. Every day that the Trump administration rolls out Project twenty twenty five proposals that includes stuff like, you know, putting the servicemen back in who were drilled out because they refused to take the JAB, or stripping DEI from our military, all these sort of things. You know, that's kind of an imprimatur of my worth. We have to get Lindsay Grim out. He is very unpopular here at home, and right now he's under way under fifty percent, so there will be a runoff. It's who is your fighter, Who's the guy who's actually been fighting and who's who do you want in the future. 00:44:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so let's let's go there. If you have a follow up please by all means, I'm gonna ask about Lynch next. So I don't know, do you have a follow up? No? 00:45:06 Speaker 5: I think that was a good time get it. 00:45:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, So you just mentioned the runoff here, Paul, So we've got give us the schedule of events and then make your case why you and not Lynch. 00:45:16 Speaker 11: Right, We've got about two hundred and five or six events in the next eighty days or so to the election, the primaries June ninth. I'm moving all over the state. I just threw in a million dollars of my own money for this race. I've hired the number one digital team in the state. These are the guys who took Charleston here where I'm talking to you from. They flipped it to red for the first time since reconstruction. So we are moving out digitally. This is where all the excitement is. And you know this is also the promise in the next generation. I should also say for older viewers, look not get your cotton picking hands off social Security, Lindesy Graham, because he's gonna cut those benefits given a chance to pay for these wars, and he's doing the same with that's benefits. I'm going to be a guy who works for the constituents, and for that matter, for Democrats. Here in South Carolina, we all sit in traffic, we all have the horrific infrastructure, we all get the terrible electric bills. You know, when I bring healthy food here, that's going to help everyone. So that's the promise of this campaign. It's really a generational change to ligency. My two opponents, they're seventy year old guys. That's old. That's out, you know. And one's an unknown and the other guy we know all too well. What he'll do is backstab President Trump. He'll put in Democrats on the Supreme Court like he did Kagan and so the mayor. He put those district court judges. I'm a top attorney, i went to University of Virginia School of Law. I'm former president of the Federalist Society for two terms. I'm a constitutional conservative and I will be a force. I will get Fauci in an orange jumpsuit. Okay, that's what I'm gonna do. I'm actually gonna drag these scoundrels. There's no way they're getting off on my watch. You know, you look at the Comy and Clapper and all these clowns that Lindsay Graham never did anything for. Let's send somebody to Washington who's actually gonna go after them. 00:47:11 Speaker 4: Well, you probably just won a lot of fans in this audience with the Fauci line, not gonna. 00:47:17 Speaker 11: Kill he killed my father. And when I got out there in the Judiciary Committee, I'm gonna be like Fauci, my name is Paul Dan's you killed my father, prepare to lie? 00:47:30 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:47:31 Speaker 4: Fair enough? So what what what about your opponent Lynch? Why not? Why you and not him? 00:47:38 Speaker 11: Well, I've been in the arena. That's a bottom line. It's it's a little late to start walking on the field for Super Bowl Sunday when you haven't taken a play in the NFL. I've been working for President Trump since fifteen. I was in the engine room sixteen, helped them across the line and in uh Pennsylvania. Then I went to work for doctor Carson, and like I said, I took over a federal agent PM. I know the whole gang because I set up Project twenty twenty five and worked with tp USA and one hundred other partners in the conservative spirit. So you know this is I'm ready to get to work day one. I know the policies. A lot of what the White House is doing is works that came from from what I helped organize. So you know, whether it's working with the DPC and Vince Haley. Look, I know Vince, you know I helped them. They got the first six copies of our book. So this is seamless. I'm gonna be President Trump's number one fighter in the US Senate, and you're gonna have Paul you know, a guy you can walk in his office and say, no, get me, get me some answers. I want to see people in leg irons. You know when the settlers look, they better get me on a good day, because that's it's prison on a good day, and god forbid on a bad day. What's happened here is genocide and people need we need accountability. Fauci again, on a good day, he'll be in jail. 00:48:58 Speaker 4: Blake, final question to you, we got to and a half left. 00:49:01 Speaker 5: You know, I guess I think We've got a pretty I think we got it. That that was such a strong statement. I almost don't want to meddle up with another question here. It's you made a strong case. We want to be clear. Yeah, yeah, well so definitely send us emails and but we want to just make it clear. We haven't endorsed anyone in this. 00:49:19 Speaker 4: But I know. 00:49:20 Speaker 5: Charlie was an ally of yours, a friend of yours. He was a huge fan of Project twenty five. And people should take all of that into an account. But definitely send us word and how you feel about this. 00:49:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, final word. 00:49:33 Speaker 11: You need to honor Charlie's legacy. He came to the Alabama Theater here in North Myrtle Beach three weeks before he was killed and said, South Carolina, you need a new US centator. He's talking to all of us, not just us here in South Carolina. I've thrown down for this. I've put in my money, I'm putting my life on the line, and I've gotten death threats right with Project twenty twenty five by put a death threat on me. But the reality is like we're patriots two hundred fifty years. So I'm asking everyone who's listened go to Paul Dance dot com, sign up, follow us at Dan's for Senate on X throw in some of your tribute, your money if you can. This is something that we easily do, but it needs all of us coming together. 00:50:15 Speaker 4: God Paul Dance dot com. Paul Dance dot com, thank you for your time, sir. That was a very compelling pitch. Thank you sir. All right. This might seem weird coming from somebody who's a little bit younger, but if you are about to turn sixty five, or if you're already on Medicare, this message is for you. You see, Charlie cared a lot about America seniors, and he was outraged that so many were paying too much for their Medicare coverage and getting less than they deserved in return. That's why we partnered with Chapter Chapters licensed advisors search every Medicare plan there is, every single one to find what's actually best for you. The call is one hundred percent free, no pressure, just real, honest help. Seniors save an average of eleven hundred dollars a year with Chapter that's right, eleven hundred dollars a year. 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I want to play a cut from Lindsey Graham just to set the stage. Go ahead and play a studio. 00:52:01 Speaker 1: I go back to South Carolina. 00:52:02 Speaker 5: I'm asking them to send their sons and daughters over to the Mid East. 00:52:06 Speaker 1: What I want you to do in the Mid East to our friends and sorry Raven, other places step forward and say this is my fight too. I join America. 00:52:13 Speaker 6: I'm publicly involved in bringing this regime down. 00:52:16 Speaker 4: So, sir, that is the senator right now from the state of South Carolina. Why what's it going to take to unseat Lindsay Graham and why are you the right man for the job. 00:52:27 Speaker 1: Well, the people in South Carolina have said fifty seven percent of them back when we polled in May, that they will not vote for Lindsey Graham again. They love Trump. They know Trump endorse Lindsey, but that endorsement won't save him this time. And I'm running on a God first platform to bring back true conservative patriotism to this seat. Lindsay has had a fifty seven percent constitutional voting record, He's failing South Carolinians. He's betrayed us with a forty three percent Conservative review score, and he stabs Trump in the back every chance he has. And we've all seen him. He hasn't been in South Carolina for every year. He's been everywhere else, you know, trying to start World War three because he's got a bloodlust just he salivates when he talks about war. But he'll come back home to take our sons and daughters over to the Middle East. I don't think so you're not taking our children over there for your bloodlust financial gain, and we say no to that in South Carolina and enough's enough. We've had enough. 00:53:32 Speaker 4: In Lindsay, I think that's the bloodlust really resonates. It resonates with me, It resonates, I'm sure with Blake, and of course it resonated with Charlie. So the question then becomes why you and not Paul Dan's what Why should South Carolinians vote for you in the primary and send you to the runoff against Lindsay Graham. 00:53:53 Speaker 1: Well, I was born in Greenville. I'm a lifelong South Carolinian. Paul's never lived here. He's from New York, res Ie in Maryland. He steps into this race, I think to probably upset the numbers and split the vote off. He's an attorney, and South Carolina says they're not for attorneys, They're for successful businessmen like Trump. They don't want another attorney or a career politician. So that's me. I've run my family business and I've grown it thirty five times in forty years, and we're debt free. I don't think Paul even has a job right now since he was fired from Heritage Organization. So South Carolinians are looking for somebody. This worked through normal life stuff. I've been married thirty seven years to the same woman. We have two children, four grandchildren. We're very successful and run a debt free business, and I've put five million of our retirement fund. My wife and I was retirement fund when we decided to do this to make people understand we're committed to this race. We've got skin in the game. And I came up through this and got asked to run from my work from the National security space, working with John Guandolo, who is one of the heads of the Anti Terrorism Division of the FBI, working with General Mike Flynn, who's fully endorsed my campaign. So we're for real and we bring that knowledge to this seat that's needed in this United States Senate seat. 00:55:17 Speaker 4: Blake, Yeah, next question, do you use, sir? Yeah? 00:55:20 Speaker 5: Mark, So we asked Paul his position on Obviously, immigration is another big issue that a lot of people care about. He said he endorsed a moratorium on immigration for the United States. How do you feel on the immigration question in particular, and what's the right approach for the US on obviously illegal but also legal immigration. 00:55:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the key word. 00:55:41 Speaker 6: We have. 00:55:42 Speaker 1: Immigration is this American dreams for everybody if they come through the proper channels of legal vetting. But to have open borders like we've had with Obama and Biden, thousands of terrorists have entered this country illegally. Lindsey's been for granting amnesty all illegal aliens, which is just insane. And you know he's helped produce these sanctuary cities that he's now saying he's against and trying to stop. But you know, America is full. We've got to get rid of the illegal aliens in here and deport them. They know they're illegal. A lot of them are terrorists. And like everybody says, now, with this Iran war, what are we going to do about the sleeper sales? And people understand that now. And you know, we've been working in this area since twenty fourteen, training our police and FBI and SLED agents and police deputies and sheriffs deputies on dealing with the Islamic infiltration in American dealing with it at the local level. So we've got a real problem here, and we've got a lot of work to do. 00:56:47 Speaker 4: So on the legal immigration front, just to kind of drill in a little there right now. You know, we issue about one point two million Green cards a year. Essentially, what is is do you have a disagreement with that number? Is it too high? Is it just right? Would you go for maybe a net zero more immigration moratorium on the legal side of that ledger? 00:57:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, we probably need a net zero for a while to get cleaned up and get caught up to what we've caused. And we've got to stop the H one B and opt visas. You know, we have students at like Clemson University talking about that. One of the students that I'm an engineering student and I graduate next year and I will be competing against students from India. Their country paid for their tuition and they'll never assimilate into this country, and they'll take my job for half pay. And I was born here. And you know, mister Lynch, what are we doing about that? And I agree, we've got to bring back America first principles, bring our manufacturing back and hire Americans for our jobs. 00:57:49 Speaker 5: I want to ask another question, because it's another one we put to Paul. So there's a lot of dispute among the base over whether the Senate is doing enough to support the president at the leadership level. We have this dispute over the Save Act, whether they should get rid of the filibuster. Do you think it is time for us to get rid of the filibuster to pass more conservative legislation? And do you think it we should have different leadership of Republicans in the Senate. 00:58:14 Speaker 1: And you know we have we use a nice word called rhinos, like we use abortion for murdering our children in this country. It's murder. But we've got to get true Republicans back in the Senate. And I'm for ending the filibuster. The filibuster allows for our Senate to hide. They play the shell game. They don't ever get to a decision. If anything's hard on one side or the other, it stalls out. And you know, we have our Homeland Security Department of the of our country closed for thirty days or more so far. That's incredible. I don't get to do that in my business. We have to gather up our biggest best committees on a subject, analyze it here all the angles, and make a decision and keep moving forward. If I close my business for a month, that would be detrimental to our company's future and to our employees. That's insane. 00:59:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think we all share your frustrations in that. You know, we just had a great senator on the show, Eric Schmidt from the Great City of Missouri. He's proposing something called the Scam Act. You see these sleeper cells that have popped up, whether the lone Wolves or not, they're motivated by Islamic ideas jihad. He's proposing that we make it easier to denaturalize and deport these people. Would you support the Scam Acts or yes? 00:59:39 Speaker 1: From what you've told me, Yes, I mean we've got a problem. You know, in the Quran, all Muslims are Ji Hottists and jihad is warring against all non Muslims. And there's two forms of jihad, and the Surah versus the sword, military action, and then civilization jihad, where they say they will take their enemies down by their own hands. And we've experienced that in this country. They've never fired a shot. I mean in South Carolina they're proposing. We're one of two states left in the country that hasn't passed a hate crimes bill, and hate crime's bill is being promoted by CARE, the Council of American Islamic Relations, and they're a Hamas terrorist organization. Now, why would CARE be so interested in South Carolina State House passing a hate crimes bill, Because that'll do away with our First Amendment freedom of speech rights, and it ushers in Sharia law. It's just another form of getting that done. And all Muslims are obligated to establishing the caliphate under sharia law period. And there's no other version of Islam taught anywhere in the world. We've got a problem right here at home where Lindsay's focused on everything else and left our country, and we've got issues right here where we've allowed all these terrorists to pour in here all these years and report to their sign locations. 01:01:06 Speaker 4: For a lot of Americans, the healthcare system is reactive. You get sick first, and then you wait for an appointment. 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You know, we have a lot of evangelicals that watch this show. They love Israel. We sort of we support them, We like them more than the other guys. But I say, I was born in this country. I'm going to die in this country. My kids are born in this country, They're going to die in this country. I'm all about this country. What's your position, sir, on the state of Israel. How should America's partnership be with Israel? And then relate it to the conflict and around plase? 01:03:27 Speaker 1: Yes, Well, I love Israel. You know, my Lord and Savior was a Jew. But if I go to the US Senate. I work for America and we have our own sovereignty right here to protect. And I've read the book. Nobody's going to mess with Israel. God's got his hand on them. He's blessing Israel, protecting them. I know they're surrounded by all these Muslim nations and they are our ally. But on a business standpoint, in math, we're broke. We're thirty eight tree and dollars in debt. So if netting Yahoo called and I was sitting with Trump, I'd say, Hey, we were just fixing to call you to ask you for some money. We're broke over here, and can you send us some F fifteen's and a cup of bion dollars. We need some cash right now. We're in a bind over here, and we've got attend to our stuff at home before we can come back over there and help you. And I know I love Trump. He's one of the greatest presidents ever. He's for promoting peace. He's a great negotiator like we've all seen, and he gives people a chance and he promotes peace. And Lindsey, I don't know who he thinks he is. Back during the Ukraine dilemma, this past summer. Finally, Trump called him out on it, said, you need to be careful what you're talking about over there to Zelensky. He was trying to arbitrate between Putin and Zolensky and promote peace. And Lindsay's a war mager, doing everything he can for his two major contributors, Boeing and Lockheed Martin, who both contributed like over thirty and forty million dollars in his last race in twenty twenty. So we know war is big bucks, but you know it's blood money. We can't start wars. We don't need to start. We need to promote peace in the world and do the right thing and take them take care of our Americans here at home and run our country and not let other countries run us or some bloodless more war monger like Lindsey Graham. It's got to stop. Everybody's tired of it. 01:05:29 Speaker 5: I want to poke at another issue where I think there could be a difference between you and mister Dan's. So you mentioned the budget, how we're broke Dan's when he was on here, he warned that Lindsay Graham wants to reduce social Security benefits that he'll go after some of the senior entitlements to pay for there. Yeah, for his wars, yes, exactly. So how do you feel on that dimension? Do you think it is time that we reform some of those things? 01:05:57 Speaker 4: Or where? 01:05:57 Speaker 5: Since we are concerned about the budget and how broke we are, where do you think that Congress should look to reduce spending? 01:06:03 Speaker 1: I mean everywhere when we present we show the hierarchy of the government. We show all the unconstitutional agencies, and one of them is like the Department of Education. We've been corrupting our minds with a core education program that communists and Islamic Terris wrote to get our children to hate America. They don't learned our history. They get taught they should probably look at transgender surgeries and change their sex if they want to. And these departments and unconstitutional agencies in the country, if we could close them all down, the expert economists say that would bring back eighty percent of our budget. And one of them is the Federal Reserve. You know, that's a conglomeration of the richest families in the world that went down to jeckal Island and formed that. And we're printing money, increasing our inflation and then we wake up and they take a skim overnight like they did in two thousand and eight, and three hundred billion dollars was paid off to them them, and then they ushered in Fanny May and Freddie Mack and started taking over our housing and Obama Care, our health insurance. And we're we're slowly rolling into communism, you know, and everybody's everybody's I think caught up on that topic now and we see where we are. But we've got a cut spending. That's what I do in business, you know. We're debt free personally and corporately. And when we don't have money, I don't have a printer that we can just keep printing more money. So war is a costly thing, and we've we've been spending an average at the beginning of one and a half billion dollars a day and increasing and adding on to our deficit at thirty eight tree and growing. We can't pay the interest, and our grandchildren aren't going to have a chance at the country that I grew up in. And that's why I'm running to stop this and get it back under control. 01:07:57 Speaker 4: So you would be a budget hawk. It sounds like a deficit and which which we fully endorse. 01:08:02 Speaker 1: So yeah, Lindsay's. Lindsay's been the head of the Budget Committee. He's failing in that area too, isn't he. So it's time for him to go. 01:08:11 Speaker 4: Thirty seconds here, sir, I think this is going to be a referendum on who can beat Lindsey. So we'll end where we started. Final pitch, Why can you beat Lindsay and not Dan's and tell people where they can find you. 01:08:24 Speaker 1: Yes, well, I'm a lifelong South Carolinian. We have the finances in our FEC account to do it, Paul doesn't. I'm a God fearing patriot. I'm an ordained deacon at our church. We wear these crosses with the American flag on it because making God first again will be the key to making America great again. That'll just be the fruit if we can bring God back into Congress. You know, our forefathers knew that they God endowed us with certain unbaienable rights, and my only authority as your United States Senator for South Carolina will be to protect those making decisions based off of God's word and through the Constitution. That's how I make every decision. 01:09:07 Speaker 4: God bless you. Mark Lynch running for Senate. Thank you for your time, sir, God bless. 01:09:11 Speaker 1: You, Thank you, God, bless y'all. 01:09:18 Speaker 10: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com