What Australia's Bondi Beach Shooting Reveals

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The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. 00:01:09 Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Over the weekend, of course, there was a terrible attack in Bondai Beach where it looks like fifteen were killed, including a ten year old girl. It was a targeted attack by jahattist targeting Jews in Bondai Beach. And we wanted to bring in Yaile Extein because she's the president and global CEO of IFCJ, the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews to just explain what this terrible attack has meant to our Jewish friends and worldwide and what's being done about it. So, yeah, yeah, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. 00:01:52 Speaker 5: So much Andrew. 00:01:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, so just give us your first impressions when you heard this. I mean, obviously after October seventh, everybody's on height and alert anywhere in the world, actually Jewish communities all over the world. When you see this stuff play out, what's the first thing that comes to mind? 00:02:09 Speaker 5: Well, the first thing that comes to mind is Charlie Kirk and all the terror attacks that we've seen based on hatred that are directed not only towards Jews, but towards Christians as well. And what it makes me realize is that this evil and hatred, it's not something from the history books of the past. But it's something that we're dealing with today. So as I light my Khnikah Menora on this holiday, and I was just in New York City and I saw the Christmas trees all out in the public squares, it makes me recognize that we need to stand together, those of us who sanctify life, against this hatred against Jews and Christians around the world, in order to bring more light into the world. Because, as we see from Christmas and from Khanikah, the answer to darkness is light. That we have to get together and do more good d bring more love to one another. And I've seen after October seventh how the Fellowship has provided over six million meals to people who are hungry. We've placed thousands of bomb shelters. We've gone into Syria to help the persecuted Christians with setting up a medical clinic and distributing food boxes. That Andrew, when I see this darkness, it just inspires me to bring more light. 00:03:24 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 00:03:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's I mean, I know that's what you guys. You guys in some ways have I mean, these are clarifying moments for the Fellowship because you're able to say, what can we do to help. What can we do to bring care, whether that's physical needs or emotional, spiritual. Have you been in touch y'ale with anybody on the ground in Australia. Have you heard from this community directly. 00:03:47 Speaker 2: I'm just curious. 00:03:48 Speaker 5: Yeah. So the Fellowship helps provide security for Jewish institutions are at risk around the world, including in Australia. And what we see here is what I think is a heroic response to darkness and terror. And again it's very similar to what happened after the assassination of Charlie. We saw people coming out now with anger, not burning tires, not pulling down flags, but coming out with love, coming out with respect for one another, singing together, recognizing the only answer to hatred is to stand together in love. And that's what we're seeing in Australia. They went out the Jewish community today and there were so many Christians who stood with them. Back to Bandai Beach to light the Menora. They all went to their houses of worship without being scared, without cowarding, and they said, we are going to spread the light of God into this world. No terrorist is going to stop us. And that's the message that I think is more relevant now than ever, as we see Christians being persecuted, as we see Jews being targeted, as we see churches being blown up, and from America to Syria to across Africa, and Jews no longer being safe. The message I hear from God is now is the time to stand together. He named Atovu, man named Cheveta Rinkamia had. How good and how pleasant it is when brethren dwell together there in peace. It's the only way that we are going to get through these are very dark days. 00:05:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's well said. Yeah, And you know it's interesting. 00:05:17 Speaker 4: I'm just looking at some reporting here and it's it's like the Australian government and the ASIO, which is the Australian Security Intelligence Organization, they were aware of heightened threats to the Jewish community. 00:05:29 Speaker 2: They raised the. 00:05:30 Speaker 4: National terrorism threat level to probable in August of twenty twenty four. Anti Semitic attacks surged in Australia post October twenty twenty three, over two thousand incidents in twenty twenty four, sixteen hundred and twenty twenty five and including arson on synagogues and graffiti, and Jewish leaders had been pleading with local government officials you know, and warning them of insufficient action. Are you concerned about that that the message is still not getting through to protect some of these synagogues, these Jewish communities wherever they may be in the larger diaspora. 00:06:06 Speaker 5: You know, Andrew. If there's one thing that I've seen since October seventh with these attacks on the Jewish community and the attacks on the Christian community, like I said, around the world, is that we can't rely on the governments to protect us. The governments have allowed from Australia to what we saw post October seventh in America, what we're seeing today in Europe. The Jihadis are speaking out with hatred and calling for a global antifada. This is what a global antifada looks like, and they're not being stopped. If there's one thing that I've realized, it's that we have to hold the governments accountable. We have to call the governments out to do whatever they can to protect Jews and Christians and religious institutions across America, across Australia, across Europe, everywhere in the free world. But we also can't use that as escapegoat. We can't sit behind our screens in self righteous anger calling for the governments to do more. We have to do more. We have to do whatever we can. We have to go out and stand together. And like I said, through the fellowship, I see what's possible when the grassroots gets together. Since October seventh, we've had flights of Aliyah rescuing Jews from all four corners of the Earth where they're facing persecution and bringing them home to Israel. We've seen Holocaust survivors who are getting food boxes in the middle of wars and rockets attacks. We're going into Syria, where it's dangerous for us, in order to provide for the persecuted Christians there. And we're only able to do this because there are millions of Jews and Christians around the world who aren't only speaking out in anger against the governments, but also taking whatever action they can in order to bring comfort and love and light to one another. Because the answer to darkness, especially during this holiday season, is to bring more light. 00:07:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, well said, And you know it's tragic that this happened at Hanukkah, the first day I believe of the celebration in Bondai Beach. Give us a lay of the land and thank you for always being so uplifting. By the way, there was like a lot of you know, dark news over the weekend. 00:08:15 Speaker 2: Yeah. Also you're always so, You're always so. 00:08:18 Speaker 4: You bring such a positive energy to this and I know that's rooted in your faith. I want to just take our eyes back to Israel, just briefly, since the peace had been established. What is the vibe on the ground there, How are people feeling? Is it optimistic? Is it contentious? Just want to temperature check. 00:08:38 Speaker 5: Well, there's an amazing resilience that you see in Israel. When I remember I was in Tel Aviv at a dinner meeting and the sirens went off and there were rockets from Yemen that were being launched directly where I was, and everyone in the restaurant immediately got up and went down to the bomb shelter together, and within ten minutes we were back in the restaurant after the rocket was intercepted, and it was as if nothing happened. That in Israel we have this incredible ability to find joy and faith within the hardships. Even in the year after October seventh, Israel was voted the seventh happiest country in the world. And so we are Yeah, we're both optimistically happy and excited for the opportunity for peace and hoping for more agreements like the Abraham agreements that will bring a new reality to all the people of the Middle East. And we're also very cautious that we know we're dealing with lots of terror groups from Syria to Egypt, to Iran to Gaza that haven't been eliminated, their people haven't been freed yet, and so we're hopeful that Israel will have peace, that the people, the Muslims who are being held hostage by their own governments and terror groups will be freed and enjoy freedom and equality like we do here in Israel. And we're just standing strong in prayer that God promises good days will be ahead. We know his promises for Israel. He says, Israel is forever, Israel ultimately together with the free world. Good always wins over bed and I just pray that the end of darkness is here already. 00:10:14 Speaker 4: Well, we appreciate I didn't I actually didn't know that you guys provide security for these synagogues and Jewish communities across the world. 00:10:21 Speaker 2: That's a really powerful. 00:10:23 Speaker 4: Thing that you're contributing to IFCJ dot org yaill is so good to see you and thank you for speaking light into the darkness today. 00:10:31 Speaker 2: We could use more of that. 00:10:32 Speaker 5: Thank you for everything you do. Keep up the good work. 00:10:35 Speaker 2: Thank you, yaile. Talk to you soon. 00:10:39 Speaker 4: Hey, Andrew Colvett, here do you want to own a home? The time to act is now. For the first time in years, buyers finally have the upper hand. There's more inventory, more negotiating power, and less competition. But this window of opportunity won't stay open for long. 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Nick Reiner, Rob Reiner's son has now appeared in court this morning. He is it looks like he's probably the guy who killed his two parents, which is like a terrible, terrible of this case. And thirty two year old Nick Reiner, he had been in rehab at least seventeen times for addiction and mental health struggles. So there was a big Christmas porty at Conan O'Brien's in the Pacific Palisades on Saturday night where guests were decked out in suits and fancy dresses. But one stood out, I'm reading from the rap. Their thirty two year old son, Nick showed up in the very formal party in a hoodie, so he was freaking everyone out, acting crazy. A source told People magazine kept asking people if they were famous, so that apparently there's just been this whole backstory about you know, Rob's approach to parenting with Nick. I mean, you know, a few deals details about this well, he just it seems we don't know all the details. 00:12:55 Speaker 6: I'm sure we'll get more, but it seems he did have a relatively permissive attitude, which is some people will say, if an addict in your life is destructive enough, you really need to cut them off or they'll destroy your whole family. And usually it's not this literal, but he he said he had lines like, you know, I'd rather have you hate me as long as you're alive, he said, kind of tough love is not not really his way through life. So you could definitely have the argument he may have enabled him too much, coddled him too much. 00:13:30 Speaker 2: We'll get more details on it, of course. 00:13:32 Speaker 6: Yeah, and it seems what they did is they argued at this party. Yeah, and he may have followed them home and exactly. 00:13:39 Speaker 4: So this is so it's weird because it's been reported, I haven't seen it confirmed that maybe the wriiners were gonna about to meet with the Obamas. So that's a weird twist in the story. I mean, yeah, it's it's I'm not suggesting that anything to do with it. I'm just that it's weird, the the triangulation of all these famous people. It's Conan O'Brien's Christmas party, and then and this was what's interesting. So you get this brooding, incoherent Nick Reiner, who's won around this party in a hoodie, and he basically only spoke at length with two people that night, Rob and his mom, the producer and photographer, and what ensued, according to people, there was a very loud argument and certainly not the first that they had ever had, and what was said no one has yet disclosed, though it was loud enough that several guests heard it. Multiple outlets reporting side and anonymous partygoers. Reps for Conan O'Brien and the Reiners did not immediately return request for comment, and it wouldn't have mattered much except for the news the following day. That was when the Reiner's youngest daughter, twenty eight year old Romy, discovered her parents' lifeless body at the Brentwood home and victims of a knife attack. Very very tragic, and she immediately suspected her older brother, corroborated Monday with police said that he was responsible for their deaths. So really really tragic story here, and I thought it was interesting. 00:15:02 Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead, Well, let's circle it back to what we were talking about in the first hour. 00:15:06 Speaker 2: We talked about marijuana. 00:15:08 Speaker 6: Now, clearly Nick Reiner was on a much larger array of substances that were more damaging. But this gets back to what Charlie would talk about so much that as no, you know, the Bible says no one can serve two masters. And so do you want to have self mastery? Do you want to be guided by your own moral intuitions or do you want to be enslaved by something else? And what people who have been around addiction or been addicts themselves can tell you is it can start small, but it can grow and grow and grow until it has taken over your life. And people who are severely addicted to drugs, what will eventually happen is they will do anything, and they will hurt anyone because they want more drugs. They want to just continue that lifestyle. And that's one of the biggest reasons to just not really let them. 00:16:03 Speaker 2: In the door. Yeah, because the law term atoms are not good. 00:16:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, And there's the idea that it is, you know, I don't want to make this overly spiritual, but you do open yourself up to I believe, dark spiritual forces. When you start releasing control of your mental faculties, of your spiritual faculties, you know, it is a highway to hell in many respects. And yeah, you might look at it and say, oh, it's it's. 00:16:27 Speaker 2: Just a little pot just a little like we're just. 00:16:29 Speaker 4: You know whatever. No, sometimes for some people. Now you might be one of those people out there that doesn't have that problem that not everybody reacts the same way, but there's going to be a percentage of the population that does, and you're going to have more and more of these people the more you use it, where that can become an opening for really really dark things. Romy basically said as soon as as soon as this happened, she said, you know, Nick had been recently living in their parents' guest house and was dangerous and should be considered a suspect. My heart goes out to the family. The sister especially had to find her parents dead and had to basically tell police that my brother did it. Probably, I mean, think about that, poor poor thing. A really tragic, tragic story. 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Now, I started the People's Republic series about ten years ago because of Andrew Breitbart, really because he said we have to go make our own culture. So I decided, well, I'm sick of all these woke guards bag boring books. They talk about feelings. You know, there's a sassy non binary character. No, we're not doing any of that. We're gonna get some action. We're gonna get some snark, we're gonna get some guns, we're gonna get some fun. We're gonna get some cool conservative action novels. And I wrote People's Republic and Andrew. These have all been best sellers. Pama Read. I believe it's still Amazon's number one political thriller right now. It is selling like hotcakes, and people ought to go out and get Panama Red because it's a lot of fun. 00:19:33 Speaker 4: Oh that's awesome. Congratulations. Honestly, I think, you know, people people think of you as a political commentator, at least probably our audience, because they're used to you doing which you are. You're great columnists over at town Hall, and you know, there's a lot there by the way. You you have your multiple columns actually, you know, but one of one of what you're one of the topics you're talking about right now. It's kind of near and dear because one of the things I've noticed is that after what happened with Charle, you know, Erica has been asked multiple times about you know, two A stuff, right, what do you think about gun laws? What do you think about access to guns? What do you think about the Second Amendment? And I think it's a really unfair question to put a widow in first of all, that's now head of a conservative organization. But listen, she's answered them, well, she's you know, Charlie was pro two A. We're pro two A. But then it comes up again because of what's happened in Australia, right, Because in Australia we've got, you know, a very restrictive gun culture, and yet this jihadist was able to get access to six legal firearms and kill a bunch of Jews. So you say, you know, this week's gun tragedy shows you why you must buy even more guns. Tell us about this? 00:20:44 Speaker 2: Why? 00:20:44 Speaker 5: Why? 00:20:45 Speaker 2: Why are you being even more adamant, Kurt? 00:20:47 Speaker 7: Look, the basis of all rights are armed citizens who can protect themselves. Yes, our creator endowed us with the rights. It's up to us to defend them. They're not self executing, and there are plenty of people who want to take them away, including our right to speak freely, our right to write what we think, our right to worship as we see fit, our right to keeping bare arms secures all that. 00:21:11 Speaker 3: You are not a citizen if you do. 00:21:14 Speaker 7: Not participate in being able to protect yourself, your family, your community, and your constitution. Yes, bad people who use guns, We've all seen that. We've seen terrible violence out there. But you know, after thirty years as a lawyer, I kind of assess arguments and I think to myself, is it a great argument that there are bad people out there who want to hurt us because of who we are and what we believe, that we should disarm harder. 00:21:46 Speaker 3: Not a great argument. 00:21:48 Speaker 7: I'll take my own personal defense in my own hands. It doesn't doesn't make me in vulnerable, but it gives me a fighting chance. 00:21:57 Speaker 4: Well, and you notice the delayed response in the Australia incident. I mean it was you know, you had that hero I forget his name, it was Ahmed al Ahmed or whatever, who goes in, grabs the gun and then kind of subdues one of the Yeah, I mean, a total hero. He ends up taking a couple of bullets for that by from the sun that was up on the walkway. But there was a totally delayed response. And you know, if if there would have been armed guards at the synagogue, maybe they could have stopped some of the killing. Lives would have been saved. You've got to start playing those those scenarios back in your head too. 00:22:27 Speaker 7: Look the fact that you look, the fact that you're armed, and the fact that you have armed guards does not make you safe. 00:22:33 Speaker 3: It makes you safer. 00:22:37 Speaker 7: The police are not there as our personal bodyguards, Okay. The police are there to respond to violence and when you get something that's so outside the main like a mass murder, it's not shocking that it'll take the police time to coordinate a response. 00:22:56 Speaker 3: It's not necessarily hit on them. 00:22:58 Speaker 7: Now, there are some cowardly the ones in Uvaldi need to hang their heads in shame forever. But most of the time police will fire and maneuver when they get there. But why can't we be there? What's wrong with armed citizens? You know, if I'm if I'm living at my house in Texas, I'm carrying all the time. Legally California they don't trust a guy who commanded thousands of people with automatic weapons on the streets. But in Texas they seem to think I'm okay, so I carry a weapon. I may be out gunned, I may be outnumbered. But you know, Andrew, if I'm if I'm engaging bad guys, you know, a retired officer, army officer, they're shooting me, and they're not shooting women, they're not shooting children, they're not shooting other citizens. 00:23:50 Speaker 2: That's true. 00:23:50 Speaker 4: That's a good point, Kurt. Let's hear from Erica. This was that deal book New York Times deal book last week. 00:23:57 Speaker 8: Uh, they're living in a day and aid where they think violence is the solution to them, not wanting to hear a different point of view. That's not a gun problem. That's that's a human, deeply human problem. 00:24:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought she. 00:24:20 Speaker 4: I mean, it's just such a I get upset because I'm protective of Erica, you know, and it's just a very you know, given what happened to Charlie, it's a pretty it's a pretty you know. I would say, tough question to be asking a widow, But whatever, she did a great job, and she's absolutely right. It's not a gun problem. That's a human problem. What about that Devil's advocate question for you, Kurt if So? You know, you got all these pot smokers now are about to legalize that, we got all the we got a bunch of mental illness. You know, has our society fallen so far that we can't be trusted with guns anymore? 00:24:53 Speaker 7: Well, look, there are some people who can't be trusted with guns, obviously, criminals, mentally illp drug addicts. We've seen the horrible you know, in just the last days, we've seen what mental illness and drug addiction can do. But again, the potential for bad people out there to do bad things. Does not compel me to make myself defenseless. 00:25:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough. 00:25:17 Speaker 7: The answer to crime is to deal with criminals. Well, and the part about this still law abiding citizen. 00:25:22 Speaker 4: Part of this story and be like, I don't know if you have a take on this, but like the son that I think he's twenty four years old, in this instance, he had been investigated by being linked to an ISIS cell. He has investigated for lings. I think they didn't nothing. They found jahadis ISIS flags in the car. I mean this guy was completely motivated by Jahadist ideology. 00:25:45 Speaker 2: So I mean I'm bad a good boy. That's what the mom said. He's just a good boy, Kurt. 00:25:48 Speaker 7: There are bad people out there who want to murder or enslave us. Well, I don't want to be murdered and I won't be a slave. The answer is not a monopoly on violence by an unaccountable government, but a monopoly on violence by the people, by the citizens. 00:26:07 Speaker 3: If those guys were. 00:26:09 Speaker 7: Sitting there, walking around, confident and cool and collected until the police showed up and engaged them, if there was an American citizen, if that was in Texas where a lot of people carry weapons. Those guys would not been able to do that. They would have had to deal with the tactical problem of people firing weapons at them. 00:26:31 Speaker 2: Yep. 00:26:32 Speaker 7: Maybe a cig P three two, three sixty five, maybe a forty five, maybe a long weapon. 00:26:39 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. 00:26:41 Speaker 7: The tactical problem for a mass killer is somebody shooting at him. He's got to engage that. When he's doing that, everybody else has a chance to take cover and protect themselves. 00:26:53 Speaker 3: That's what we need. 00:26:55 Speaker 4: I'm just reminded of that. Remember that hero's name was Jack Wilson. Do you remember this story in Yeah Jack? So Jack Wilson just pulled up an image of him. But this was in It looks like let's see here. It was in twenty nineteen. He was a firearms instructor and former reserve sheriff's deputy who fatally shot a gunman during a service at the West Freeway Church of Christ in White Settlement, Texas. And that was on yeah, December twenty nineteen. He took a single shot and ended the attack, which saved an estimated, well they say, two hundred and fifty people in the congregation, but who knows how many would have ultimately been killed. But that I mean, that is the sort of that could have been this situation. But Australia has pursued a disarmament campaign. Let's hear from Charlie Kirk. This is, you know, the Charlie Kirk Show. After all, he talks about this one eighteen. 00:27:50 Speaker 1: Maybe it's much more of a brokenness of humanity problem or a sin problem, not the actual tool itself. But honestly, I think we should have less gun laws, not more. People disagree with this. 00:28:02 Speaker 2: It's a right. 00:28:03 Speaker 1: People should be able to protect themselves as they see fit in states that generally have more guns, not less guns, like Houston. Yes, you do have some more gun deaths amongst inner city gangs, but violent crime tends to go down. And so I don't want to disarm peaceful, law abiding people just because some people abuse that tool or that technology. And so when you look at gun deaths in this country, there are thirty thousand gun deaths a year. Two thirds of them are death by suicide. Okay, so that number shouldn't have been in there. The vast majority of the gun deaths that are related, that are are the ones in the remainder are individuals in gangs and inner cities that use guns in kind of gang violence. 00:28:46 Speaker 2: So there's lots of categories there. 00:28:48 Speaker 7: Look, I started shooting when I was six. My dad was a country guy. Even though I'm a BMW driving LA lawyer, I still have that blood in me. I've had guns around me all my life. I've carried weapons as an army officer overseas and here. I've never shot anybody. I've never heard anybody, and there's zero chance I'm going to unless I have a good reason to. Tens of millions of other Americans are just like me, law abiding, peaceful, but ready to defend ourselves, our families, our communities, and our constitutions. We're not giving up our guns. It's not a discussion. That's how it's going to be. 00:29:26 Speaker 4: That's right, Good Americana there, Kurt. Good conversation is about showing respect. It's how we create a space where people are able to share their ideas and to be heard. Charlie knew that TikTok has always strived to build that kind of place that thrives unrespectful connection, where curiosity fuels connection and we can share what's on our minds and learn from each other. 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Let me say it again because I can't believe I have to say it. 00:30:42 Speaker 3: Why are you talking to Vanity Fair? 00:30:45 Speaker 7: I mean, was Brian tater Stelder busy? 00:30:52 Speaker 5: I mean? 00:30:53 Speaker 3: Why are you talking to Vanity Fair? 00:30:56 Speaker 2: Look at the picture again. It is really well shot. 00:31:02 Speaker 7: It's a beautiful shot that hits hard people who need to answer the question, why are you talking to Vanity Fair? I don't understand it and then and then. 00:31:13 Speaker 3: You're like shocked, Oh, well they lied about what I said. They misconstruct they taught me out of context. 00:31:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, okay, apparently fair. 00:31:24 Speaker 4: Apparently this this reporter is is known for doing books and interviews with chiefs of staff And I'm getting my studio is laughing at you. But we're gonna switch topics here to Mark. Wayne Mollin kind of made some waves yesterday by saying he's kind of in favor of NUKI and the philibuster. I have questions, though, I want to talk about the pros and the cons. 00:31:48 Speaker 9: One there was a conversation that's taking place to saying, well, maybe we don't do all the filibusters, but we just do it when it comes to appropriations. Well that's where the policy is made to appropriations. Anyways, I think that's a sound policy for us to have a serious conversation about. Because we only had three years here, let's go all in, and I'm in that favor. Where you're at right now is let's go all in. Let's get this thing done, because we're not going to get immigration policy done with bipartisan support. My position on the filibuster has changed. 00:32:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that actually I'll be honest, Blake, that was music to my ears. I was like, if we're not going to get immigration policy? And I kind of thought about as we talked. 00:32:26 Speaker 6: About It's true, you only do this if you're going to do a big thing. 00:32:30 Speaker 4: But do we have the votes even if we nuked the filibuster? 00:32:35 Speaker 7: Probably not. I remember there are a lot of people who don't want the revolution. Aren't counter revolution that were that Donald Trump and the populists are are trying to have. They There are so many Indiana Republicans spread all through America. 00:32:53 Speaker 4: Into a pejorative I mean, it's so good the Indiana don't be in Indiana that though. 00:32:59 Speaker 6: That'll motivate them. 00:33:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, probably the tune out get those that'll motivate them more than the R word. 00:33:04 Speaker 6: They're going to send us the biggest winger in Senate history. 00:33:08 Speaker 2: We are all in, by the way, Kurt, we are going to practice. 00:33:11 Speaker 7: I went to Indiana and talk to them. They're hardcore, and I'm from California, so I know what hardcore looks like, because that's all. 00:33:18 Speaker 3: That's left of us as Republicans. 00:33:20 Speaker 7: Ye, look the look I I would love to maintain the filibuster if we could I think it is a useful product. But as I wrote to my town Hall column a while ago, and I write Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday, and everybody should go read them. Uh, the Democrats are definitely given the chance going to end the filibuster for everything and do whatever they want. 00:33:42 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:33:43 Speaker 7: I would love the opportunity to do whatever we want because we only have three years to prove ourselves and our policies will work. 00:33:51 Speaker 3: As we saw when Ronald Reagan was elected. 00:33:53 Speaker 7: Uh, that's a little before your time, and when Donald Trump was elected the first time, that's probably before your time too. Our policies do work. It would be good for us to get them in. And then again, there are benefits to having the filibuster. 00:34:10 Speaker 3: Maybe make a deal. Okay, we're either going to make. 00:34:13 Speaker 7: The filibuster permanent by a constitutional amendment, or we're going to change it and then use it to our advantage because you guys are going to do it to us, and we know you're going to do. 00:34:26 Speaker 3: It to us, because you've told us you're going to do it to us. 00:34:30 Speaker 7: I would love to see things like immigration, national concealed carry. Oh my gosh, it's so there's so many things should we do them? 00:34:42 Speaker 6: Good question, Yeah, if you should do it, if you have the votes to pass things that really matter, and your next funding threshold is not a thing that really matters the way, you know, existentially for this country fifty years there. 00:34:56 Speaker 4: Immigration voter, I d there's a few that are are truly truly important. If we could, if we could take the Puerto Rico, the DC, maybe even Guam statehood off the table, I think the country would be much better off. So I don't maybe it is a deal, Kurt. I hadn't thought about making a deal because I'm just assuming they'll break the contract as soon as they get powered. 00:35:18 Speaker 7: So put in the Constitution Panama. 00:35:22 Speaker 4: Read Kurt's new book. Please check it out. Kurt Schlickter, are always a pleasure to have you seen your columnists at town Hall? What what days do to your columns again? 00:35:32 Speaker 3: Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays? 00:35:35 Speaker 7: All right, yeah, yeah, and a uh yeah, And they really make the Libs and the Fredo Conservatives mad Kurt Slickter. 00:35:44 Speaker 2: All right, guys, we'll see you all tomorrow. 00:35:46 Speaker 7: Until then, for more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.