Time for the Insurrection Act in Minneapolis?

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The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company. I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. 00:01:09 Speaker 2: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Shows. January sixteenth, twenty twenty six We're here in studio myself Andrew Covet, executive producer of this fine show, joined by Blake Neff, another one of our producers here, and we've got a jam pack first hour. First up, though, we have David Hoke, who you will know from the Nick Shirley investigations in Minneapolis that have gone massively viral. David has been instrumental working behind the scenes for years trying to expose this fraud and then kaboom, like a title wave. Nick Shirley's investigative reporting with David's help, has taken over the country and really setting the news agenda. Right now, all the headlines are about Minneapolis, Minnesota. A lot of that was sparked because of this investigation. So, without further ado, David Hoak, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. 00:02:00 Speaker 3: Thank you very nice to be here. 00:02:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, and those who can't see it, uh, he's wearing your that sweatshirt you're wearing is quality leering center. 00:02:10 Speaker 2: Eight hundred fraud. 00:02:11 Speaker 4: You have a lot to be proud of, you guys. You guys probably gave us the best conservative meme of of the entire year. 00:02:17 Speaker 2: Does does that number actually work? By the way, I should. 00:02:19 Speaker 3: Ask, oh, we just put it on there, right, we should. 00:02:23 Speaker 2: But we should this should be a government hot Yeah. 00:02:30 Speaker 4: I mean imagine, like I know this, this exists, but like we should really like emphasize if you can uncover a fraudulent program such that it gets stopped and maybe someone gets convicted of it, you get twenty five thirty percent of what was saved. 00:02:42 Speaker 2: I actually love those kind of ideas. 00:02:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, these exists, So we got to really drive There's. 00:02:46 Speaker 2: A lot of incentives in the market, David, for fraudsters. There there are not as many for people like yourself that want to do good and want to protect taxpayer funds. So you had this first video with Nick that went absolutely I mean I don't think anybody's ever seen anything like it, especially on X and you've come out with a part two now exposing transportation companies. I was reviewing some of the clips just before the show today and truly remarkable stuff. This I want to start with just an overall question. Did you know this was happening? Did you learn something in this investigation? What are the big takeaways here? 00:03:24 Speaker 3: So this all began several years, well many years ago, and really got jumped started when I began noticing all these childcare facilities here in Minneapolis, and they were pretty concentrated one area, and I said, well, I think we have more childcare centers in Minneapolis, and we do children. So I started to look and say, well, you know, the snow would fall and there'd be no footprints around the center the whole day, and I'd say, well, what I mean, what's going on here? And so I started to look at who owned these childcare centers and I started to see all these veins driving around the Twin Cities with these names, but there was no phone number, no addhress on them, just a name with a number on the back. But they never had a passenger and ever. And so I started to kind of say, well, what's going on here? And that led into feeding our future, the autism centers all of that, and I realized that this was going to be like wrestling at Grace Kippo. I just I couldn't get my arms around it. So, and this is advice for anyone else out there who's going to do this sort of thing in your state. You can't try and tackle the whole thing all that once. You have to pick a pressure point to start with and in my case, I chose the childcare because I knew that that would resonate with people, especially when they're paying two thousand dollars a month per kid to send their kid to childcare and then they find out this whole fraudulent network has been set up. And then I knew I was going to move into the non emergency medical transportation side of things, and I realized that that was the the wheel. Like I said in the video, all these other things, childcare, the adult daycare, the autism centers, they're all spokes on the wheel. It all revolves around transportation. So when I had all this data finally put together, I said, well, look, I'm a nobody. I need to find someone who has an Internet presence who can deliver this. And I started to look at all these different inflowers. I saw Nick Shirley. I said, that's my guy right there. I just pested the hell out of him until he called the Friday night, about nine thirty my time. I said, okay, I'm coming to Minneapolis, and then we made different video. I said, well, get your return ticket because you're going to be back because all. 00:05:38 Speaker 2: I don't know. 00:05:39 Speaker 3: And then as soon as that one went just exploded in there and he called me this so. 00:05:42 Speaker 2: I'm coming back, Yeah, I mean, and it's really I mean, listen, and this is You've got this whole Ice story, which we're going to be hitting in part two of this hour with Cam Higbee and Nick Sorder, who have been on the streets doing more independent journalism trying They've been infiltrating some of these Antifa groups, these paid protest groups, these communist front groups that are reacting to the surgeon Ice, which are reacting to the video that you and Nick Shirley did. I have so many questions, but let's start there. What is it like to be enveloped in this national story. 00:06:18 Speaker 4: But arguably the cause of the because. 00:06:20 Speaker 2: You are the spark that lit the fuse. 00:06:23 Speaker 3: So I was born and raised in Soft Minneapolis, lived here my whole life, nunciation in grade school, where that terrible shooting last year, Washburn High School, University of Mins, so many Apolis. And he said, well, look at when this all When I all started to really realize what was going on here, I said, there's something it just doesn't fit right into a normal society. And I said, well, nobody's doing anything about this, And so I want to. I started to look into it. I saw these tentacles going everywhere, and I said, oh my god, I can't. I can't do this. It's it's too enormous. So that's why, you know, I'd say, you know, god, I can't, I can't do this, but there's something inside me that just pushes me forward. And I said, okay, well, nobody else is doing anything, I'm going to be the guy. I had no idea this would be the spark, not only nationally but internationally. We have people wearing these T shirts and sweatshirts. All I'm getting videos from photos from Japan and Russia and Sweden and Australian Zeno, and it's everywhere because of one misspelled word. And what I didn't point out in the video is that not only did they have the word learning mis spelled, they have the address misspelled on the door because Nicola is spelled with two wells, and then we had one on it, and so they were four words on their building. But I didn't would have pointed out because I wanted the focus to be leering versus learning. So I said, look, I'm not going to sit by and let this happen I'm not going to hand this situation off to my kids and let them deal with it. I'm the guy who's going to stop it, and I'm going to tear this thing down. 00:08:01 Speaker 2: Well, you've you've lit a fuse, I think, you know. For Blake and I even and we were we were sort of aware of this story. We saw it in the the City Journal. We had Ryan on Ryan Uh oh yeah, thorpe On who had done that story. So we were seeing this Percole and then it then boom, this all happened by the way Walter Kern and the County Highway, which is not not digital, it's only a print publication. They had done a story before that which led to the City Journal investigation, which then uh kind of snowballed with the Nick Shirley. So it's all it's amazing to see that we can blow stories wide open. Are you first and first question? Are you staying safe? David? I do have a concern about that for you. 00:08:45 Speaker 3: Well, uh, this is something that I would not recommend that anybody do in the fashion that I did it. Because my head is on a swivel twenty four hours a day. I have to have the lights on all the time. I have to carry a firearm, a baseball bat ah, and what's called a whippet and metal whippet to protect myself because now people are starting to recognize me and it's a it's it's a it's a frightening place to live my world, but I just I have to do it, and I believe that at some point somebody's going to take me out. I mean, that's not movie type stuff. This is real life. And if that happens, at least I can go knowing that I did what I could do to try and make a difference. And now today I get a text that there's a DFL state representative here in Minnesota who's live streaming the location of federal agents. 00:09:44 Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, so it's. 00:09:48 Speaker 3: All coming out of Minneapolis. This is the epicenter of all the fraud in the United States, and it's even spread out among the world. The genesis of it is right here in Minneapolis. 00:09:58 Speaker 2: And I mean, I didn't me to you awkwardly pause there. 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According to this gentleman play cup, five hundred. 00:12:12 Speaker 5: The smallest amount in a suitcase that I heard was like seven hundred and fifty thousand, but generally it was anywhere from a million to six million in a suitcase, and there usually was there were as far as I can remember, there was always two individuals traveling, So you would have maybe one guy with two point two million and another guy with three million, And. 00:12:36 Speaker 6: At airports you're able to take ten thousand dollars without declaring it. How are these guys able to take millions of dollars? 00:12:42 Speaker 5: Because as far as I know, as long as they declared it, they were fine. 00:12:47 Speaker 2: And then we found out David later in this clip that they actually reported this to HSI, which has all the investigation gate of authority and power that the FBI does, by a homeland Department of Homeland Security. How is this legal? How do nothing happened? What did you guys find? 00:13:02 Speaker 3: It goes back to what I said earlier that Minneapolis is the epicenter of all of this fraud and all this corruption. For someone to be I mean, if I walked through there for ten cents, I have to source it. These guys are walking through with millions of dollars in cash at a time, and had I known it, I would have assisted that TSA was running drug sniffing dogs around the money, because you know there's going to be a scent of cocaine or something, and you have that much cash, there's going to be a trace of drugs on it. Of course they could see the money, they could they didn't do that, and so this this fraud is so gigantic that again people are so frustrated and overwhelmed by they said, look, you've got to just you got to chip away. If you're going to do this, you've got to focus. You got to strategy. I saw two years ago, I knew what these videos were going to be about, but I didn't have all the data to put together. I didn't what sites we were going to visit. But when Nick hit town, I had it all laid out, where we were going, how much money they'd gotten, why we were doing it the way we did it. And I said, this first first video is going to be the most view video on the internet. I totally Matt talking on the phone, and indeed it was. I don't know how it's four undred million views or whatever the number is. And then I said, we have to we have to go directly into transportation because that all comes back to transportation. I said, we can't do ten videos on autism. It's just it's not worth it. Childcare and then moving into transportation, and. 00:14:32 Speaker 4: I was right, well, let's let's get a clip of that. So you went to a location of one of these supposed transport companies and to set it up, it's the state will fund money for people, will give money to companies that are supposedly to transport disabled people, elderly stuff like that. It's a very popular business. There are a lot of these. I spoke with someone who's a realtor in Minneapolis and she said, over and over they would run into people Somali's buying homes, and there was always like other day care center, it was another transport company. I think someone had all three those two and then a medicaid company. It was unreal, But let's play the clip here. This is uh, Nick surely finding another fraud spot and getting kicked out five eighteen. 00:15:13 Speaker 6: Do you guys know where advanced mobility is? Do you guys know where advance mobility is? Yeah, we're looking for it. 00:15:21 Speaker 4: Never heard of it? 00:15:22 Speaker 2: What is this? Oh my name is Nick Shirley. 00:15:25 Speaker 6: We're looking for advanced mobility. Where's advanced mobility at That's what we're asking for us, all right, we're looking for advanced mobility. Nobody can help us right now. We got a whole group of people trying to get us out of here. We're looking for advance mobility. Advanceability doesn't exist. 00:15:48 Speaker 4: And so it's not in that clip, but I believe it was saying it was that suite two two four, and then you couldn't find a single suite even labeled too in that building. 00:15:56 Speaker 3: No, So it's it's interesting you picked that course from the video because it's the most significant because that advanceability has been registered with the state in Minnesota since nineteen ninety nine at that address. And it's a one story building, so all of the suites are one on one, one or two one of the people you have to have a second there is no second story, so you can't have a two hundred suite. So it's never existed. It's only on paper. 00:16:26 Speaker 2: And nobody ever checked this, David, nobody ever did. So this this complicity goes back before Tim Waltz. Then, I mean it's been going on here. 00:16:33 Speaker 4: So yeah, so Devil's advocate, did you look anywhere else? Did you maybe try to find other evidence the company may have ever existed, or maybe that it had been there, it had been somewhere and moved. 00:16:43 Speaker 2: I don't know. 00:16:44 Speaker 4: I'm just trying to find defenses that the state might make. 00:16:47 Speaker 3: That's why we asked the people, have you ever heard of advanced mobility? Because some of those companies have been there for eight or nine or ten years, so smunk sol. If you've never heard of it, how can it be registered at this address? But that was only one example. I've been to probably seventy of these. 00:17:04 Speaker 7: And. 00:17:06 Speaker 3: None of them. I can't find an I can't find an office, I can't find anybody there. I mean their apartment buildings, they're vacant buildings. Their liquor stores. You saw at their grocery stores. I said, well, what the several of them are money wire transfer services and you saw that one gentleman liquor store. He said, yes, Afari wire service, Yes, so far he gets the money and they sent it out. I said, well, where's the transportation company? Doesn't know what we're talking about. And what we didn't include in that video was there was a guy who stormed into that liquor store and he started showing at the older guy in Somali to get him to stop talking. And so that guy turned around, he walked out the back towards the back door. 00:17:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so you grew up in Minneapolis. Just for the sake of our audience, how much have you seen the city demographics transform as you see the Somali communities come in. 00:17:54 Speaker 3: So what's been most shocking is their failure to assimilate in the slightest bit. They are in my weight or the highway, and they have these dfl legislators who stand behind them because they didn't create all this product. They had helped from politicians to construct all of these companies. They didn't know how to do it. The politicians helped to do it, and they saw them as a solid voting block, and so they brought more men and more of women. 00:18:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. And you know you've this video, these videos a lot of fuse and a lot of Americans because we're the ones getting ripped off, and you can you could just see it, and it's you're not getting ripped off for other Americans. You're not getting ripped off for a good cause. This is you were just getting straight ripped off, and the money's going overseas to a bunch of some money. 00:18:36 Speaker 3: You're stealing from the blind, the disabled, the elderly, the kids with cancer. They're stealing from all of those. 00:18:42 Speaker 2: Amen, Thank you, David. President Trump walked into a catch twenty two when taking office, do nothing in America would be staring at a ticking debt bomb, the kind of crisis that could cripple our future. Instead, he's taken action with strong policies to slow the train and buy us some time. 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So one of the big news stories of the day is coming to us from Axios, and it's disturbing because it indicates that a lot of squishes are rounding President Trump and trying to tell him to go halfway, half measures in this push to remove illegals from our streets. Now here, here's what's happening. The polling is indicating that Americans are turning on President Trump's immigration enforcement measures. This is the polling. Now there's I don't believe it, first of all. And this stuff is so transitory that you you have to look past it. This is our one chance, I believe, to set right what has been a decades long wrong. Right. 00:20:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, So the headline was from Axios. Axios is a very funny one to read because they write like no other publication. It's all bullets, bullet points I have you know, I have to imagine. Yeah, So it's all like bullet point are very to the point and you don't always know what's behind the scenes. But the claim is Trump's immigration erosion worries his team. And what they're claiming is eroding. Is they have polling that says independent and undecided voters think President Trump is too focused on deporting the legal immigrants, and also that ICE has taken a reputational hit. Now, what I would first observe about that is that such an obviously like media driven sense of things, why would they think Trump President Trump is too focused on deportations Because the news media is perpetually covering ICE in Minneapolis in this hostile way. That's what drives it, and that's also what's driving any sense of damage to ICE, is there's hostile coverage of one incident that happened in Minneapolis. And I think you and I both agree that the headline like this is partly designed to engineer what we warned yesterday cannot be allowed to happen. They're trying to attack the moral resolve of the administration and get them to what's out. They're trying to get them to back down and say the juice isn't worth the squeeze, get out of Minneapolis, let them do their thing. And I think what you and I both agree is once that happens, the jig is kind of up that they won't be able to enforce their immigration will anywhere else, and it's not gonna help their numbers because, to be sort of straightforward, success succeeds and failure continues to fail. 00:22:13 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing things get. Here's what's happened with the media complex in the country. You have Renee Good gets shot the apparatics on ms now in CNN and the Washington Post and New York Times. They see an opening just like the protesters do, so they flood in the zone. They do SOB story after SOBS story, they show complete propaganda, protesters infuriated, one begets the other. They all believe the lie and then they just regurgitate it and pairt it and they think Gestapo, Nazi, Trump tyrant, all of this that was a distraction, unfortunately, Renee Good getting shot from the fraud story that was pushing up the positives in the polling to do this mass deportation. So this is a moment in time where we have to be showing to Blake's point resolve, we cannot give into this SOB story weak need republicanism. That doesn't work and we lose our country. This is the opportunity where you double down, triple down, and we now have it. Sounds like we now have Nick Sorder and Cam Higby who've been on the ground in Minneapolis, who can give us an insider scoop of what they've been seeing. I mean, these guys are absolute maniacs and heroes. They are in middle of the night, freezing temperatures. You guys are out there. Welcome to the show. Guys. We were having a little tech issue, so I'm glad we got you on. Nick. Cam. I don't know who wants to take this first, but what are you seeing on the ground? Describe it in detail, how violent is it, how organized is it? And then we're gonna get into a conversation about is it time to invoke the Insurrection Act? So maybe you're on the left here, Nick, you start, and then over to you Cam. 00:23:52 Speaker 8: Don't be saying I'm on the left here, man, I don't want the audience to get on the screen. 00:23:56 Speaker 2: On the screen, I know better. 00:24:00 Speaker 8: I'll tell you it's it's just it's not getting any better, right, if anything, it's getting worse. We just saw the other day, and I was able to announce this yesterday that the the that that FBI rifle that I captured being stolen out of an FBI vehicle. That was a select fire rifle by the way, it was a machine gun, and it ended up in the hands of a Latin King's gang member out here, the same gang that has a ten thousand dollars hit out on Bovino. So you know, and these are the Democrats of siding with out here. These are the people that they're supporting. I've gotten a bunch of eight messages in my DMS from people after I had this guy arrested yesterday. You know, I've been in direct contact with General Pam Bondi several times a day at this point, you know, tracking these people down. The FBI is on the ground doing a really good job with that. I'm hoping this gonna be another announcement on that today. But the fact of the matter is, you know, I told Minneapolis Police immediately as this happened, because they were just a block away, and I told them that somebody. I didn't know what kind of gang he was in at the time, but the face taps kind of gave it away. Had just stolen an FBI rifle. Here's the video, here's the license plate of the vehicle. But that he just got into and ran away and they didn't do anything. 00:25:28 Speaker 2: They just let him go. 00:25:29 Speaker 8: I showed them the video of it happening, and they let the guy go. They could have taken this rifle off the streets right then, right there. Instead, they risked the lives of you know, countless innocent people by just letting him run away because they didn't want to offend the anti ice rioters. I mean, this isn't getting any better. 00:25:46 Speaker 4: Guys, just to give a scope, how how many I guess, straightforward numbers, I feel like I'm not seeing how many people do you sense are out on the streets, how many are really violent versus how many people are maybe spectators passerby. 00:26:04 Speaker 9: It varies and they become way more emboldened after the sun sets. So it's I mean, outside the Federal building, it's pretty consistently upwards of two hundred people, but it's really I mean, it's a lot of the same people during the day, but as soon as the sun sets, they get that mob mentality. More of the agitators comes out, come out, and it gets really violent. I mean, it's gotten to the point where Nick and I can't even show up anymore. They run us out as soon as they realize we're there, they call us agitators. I was out there embedded for nine hours yesterday, and it wasn't until right before I was forced to leave for the night because they chased me out that they realized I was even there. It's like, I'm obviously a pretty poor agitator. Minneapolis Police Department, local law enforcement in general don't do anything. They don't enforce the law. I always say that if you don't enforce the law, you don't have laws. Laws are only as good as their enforcement mechanism, and right now Minneapolis has no laws because they're not enforcing any laws. I definitely think it's not for the insurrection acting. I've been calling for it a lot. 00:27:03 Speaker 4: So let's probet that when you say they don't enforce the laws, so are they present and if so, how many and what do they do? Do they passively watch? Do they ever move about? Do they ever try to order people even if they're not making arrests? Well, kind of just just paint out the situation for us. 00:27:19 Speaker 9: I mean, for the most part, you'd think there's no police in this city. When they do show up, they get chased out, They retreat immediately, the protesters win every single time. 00:27:28 Speaker 2: That happened. 00:27:29 Speaker 9: The night they were breaking into the hotels, the police showed up a couple times. They at one point they did form a really terrible kettle where state police basically just let people leave the kettle whenever they wanted, so they arrested nobody. But other than that, Minneapolis Police department drove by or showed up a couple times, and they were chased out every single time. Like the almost the terrorist attack that Nick stopped on the hotel, they showed up for that and then they got chased out. I got stocked in downtown Minneapolis after an Indivisible rally the other day. The guy looked me in the face told me that he thinks it would be okay if somebody killed me for my beliefs. I never vocalized my beliefs, by the way. He just knew me because another guy told people to follow and harass me and make my security earn their paycheck. He told me that he thinks it would be self defense if somebody killed me because of my beliefs, and then he ran around town following me, telling everybody that I think Renanicle Good deserved it. So obviously that incided a mob against me I called nine to one. They never showed up. 00:28:28 Speaker 2: Jesus wheeze. So the question is it's gonna be zero degrees this weekend? I mean, this is like daytime highs, isn't it. I mean it's low, okay, so but that's overnight. I've been of the mind here, Nick, because you've covered this stuff when it's you know, summertime riot season. That's riot season right summertime spring. I'm convinced that this would be just a thousand times worse if they're you know, if it was summer. Do you think that you're still gonna see the group's coming out this week? Can? And do you know the names of the group you mentioned indivisible? What other groups are there? Well? 00:29:05 Speaker 8: In terms of names of the indivisible is the one that I know of at the time. I mean, it's a it's not a hugely organized group out here that's going from place to place to place. In terms of the weather, I mean it's going to be anybody's guess, really, I mean it's it's obviously probably not going to be nearly as bad as it could be given the cold temperatures, but that hasn't really stopped a lot of these people. Anybody that is from any states in this area, if they come from Chicago, if they come from Iowa, places like that, that they're used to the cold already. And when it was keep in mind last week, right after this happened, we saw similar temperatures out here and it was still pretty violent. So I don't necessarily think it's going to quell everything. I just think, you know that the Soros folks will send out a lot more goods to support them with out there well. And you should see what was that. 00:30:05 Speaker 2: No. I was about to play this Pritzker clip because we're hearing this from a bunch of Dems, because we're talking about the insurrection. I'm completely on with you, guys. I think if Minnesota what I'm hearing from you, if the Minneapolis police are unwilling to engage and drive back these agitators, then we have a serious issue. I mean, they're confronting ice, they're harassing ice, they're trying to set traps of ice in front of ice. Right we've seen them putting water out on the streets. But this is what Governor Pritzker saying from a state over, let's go ahead and play at forty nine. 00:30:38 Speaker 10: The Feds are supposed to be fighting to protect your civil rights, not to take them away. And the Insurrection Act is designed only for circumstances where your rights can't be protected by local authorities or by whatever federal authorities are already there. And then only then can and federal troops to be brought in to protect your civil rights. This is exactly the opposite. It's like they've turned it on their head, on its head cam. 00:31:07 Speaker 2: What's your reaction to that? 00:31:09 Speaker 9: Well, I think it's in the name. The Insurrection Act is intended for insurrections. And when you have people trying to pull down the fences of federal facilities, attempting to kill federal officers, breaking into their vehicles, stealing their documents that is allegedly controlled unclassified information, I think that that probably constitutes the beginning of an insurrection. Governor Tim Wall said that he would deploy the National Guard if things got too bad, and here he is continuing to encourage these people despite the fact that they broke into vehicles the other night, And honestly, I'm a little bit disappointed in the federal response. FPS came out last night and they were very easy on these guys as they tried to pull that fence down. Very few munitions deployed. I would have expected a much larger response from these guys. Something really bad could have happened the other night when they broke into those cars and stole a rifle. 00:32:00 Speaker 2: Well, you're absolutely right, and listen. 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We'll just play this clip just so everybody knows where I'm talking about. Four ninety Hello, everybody. 00:33:51 Speaker 7: We've received multiple reports of heavy ice activity in different parts of Central Florida, including the University of Central Florida Winter Garden, ultimate On Springs, and other surrounding areas. We've also received reports of heavy ice activity at hotels in the area as well. I'm making this video to confirm both of those things. That ice is in the community and that they have made pretty large hotel reservations in surrounding hotels as well. 00:34:19 Speaker 2: I play that clip for you guys because you're seeing it up close and personal. If we do not stop this insurrection in Minneapolis, it spreads. These guys are all going to get in Bolden to do even more, and then you guys are going to be flying all over the country covering the next chaotic eruption somewhere else. Is that your read on this that this can if we stop this, that the message will be clear or do you think this is just going to keep spreading. 00:34:46 Speaker 8: Yeah, they're gonna have to make an example out of this place, especially, you know, this is obviously the Minneapolis Saint Paul area is a Democrat stronghold. And right now these people firmly believe that they're going to get away with all of this and that ICE is going to back down. You know, they're talking about these pole numbers, which I don't even believe are real pole numbers, because if you talk to actual people on the street, they don't want to live next to Venezuelan rapists. I mean, it's it seems like that seems like a no brainer, right. I will tell you I would much rather cover this in somewhere like Florida. 00:35:20 Speaker 3: But I'll give. 00:35:21 Speaker 8: You an example. When they tried all these rallies and these big protests, like Indivisible was doing stuff down when I was in New Orleans as well, they didn't put up with it. That the Louisiana government didn't put up with it. They shut down all of the potential riots, you know, right away. And up here you see videos of anti ICE activists running red lights following Ice, you know, going around bus cities or on blind corners, twelve of them at a time, just total lawlessness, and the police don't do anything about it. 00:35:57 Speaker 2: They can literally see. 00:35:58 Speaker 8: It happen, and they don't pay any attention to the person that just blew a red light at eighty miles an hour to catch up with ice vehicles down in Louisiana. I did that just because I was covering ice. I like rolled a red light and turned right behind them without stopping at the red light on that right turn. And they pulled me over for that. And so it's like, you didn't have the same issues down there. You didn't have the constant clashes in the. 00:36:27 Speaker 2: Middle of the street. 00:36:28 Speaker 3: The truth. 00:36:29 Speaker 4: The truth is is like cities that have had to deal with really severe violent crime for a long time, or where they have a history of really bad well I shouldn't say about Mineapolis, because they do. Cities that have had to deal with a lot of violent crime for a long time just don't have quite as much like they just don't have the patience for this, they realize what the cost to a city, or they getting normalized and so but you see it, it's like it's Portland, it's Minneapolis, it's Seattle, it's cities that historically were safer usually and it's cities also, and it just has to be saidographically they are more of what you'd think of as well. Let's just say stereotypical white liberals run these cities still as opposed to in if you're in New Orleans, if you're in Atlanta, if you're in Detroit, those are heavily black cities that are run by other black Americans, and they just don't they don't fall for this nonsense nearly. 00:37:17 Speaker 2: They don't. They don't get suckered. They're not Marx Cam. Do you do you have that same impression that you could you could squelch this in Minneapolis if you brought enough force, if we just if we just basically said enough of this garbage, we're putting our foot down now, that the rats would scurry, the rats would flee the ship. 00:37:36 Speaker 9: I mean, I think I think the record just speaks for itself. Why is this happening in Minneapolis and not Florida. It's because they know that if they did this in Florida, the Florida State police or local police would have a field day with them. Why aren't they doing this in Texas? Because they know Texas State Police isn't going to take it. They know DeSantis isn't gonna take it. That's why they're doing it in Minneapolis because I know the government here supports them, and they can get away with it. I think I think an overwhelming show of force would absolutely squelch this. They're like children. It's just learned behavior. If your child touches the stove and burns themselves, they're probably not going to do it again. If your child does something wrong and you punish them, you give them a spanking, they're probably not going to do it again, or they're going to do it, you know, to a lesser degree. And like Nick said, I hope that message the administration. Please do mass raids in Hawaii. We'd much rather cover. 00:38:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, I mean that's an interesting point, right, I mean, it does seem to be the sort of white enclave, white traditional liberal like softies that let their cities devolve into chaos. Right now, and you know, to you guys are talking about this, Nick, This is the Axios article that came up this morning. We have the graphic here. Two public surveys released this week, one from CNN, another from Yugub found that most Americans said the agency was making US cities less safe, referring to ICE. Another poll done for the Associated Press after Goods death found that just thirty eight percent of Americans now approve of Trump's immigration pause. I don't believe that for a second. But what I do agree with is that when you look to your guys's point, when you allow this kind of chaos, whether it's two hundred or three hundred, you know, agitators, when they get tackled, when you see these purple hair jahatis getting you know, face planeted in the snow. There's a group of us that love it. But when it keeps going on too long, that's when you're gonna see the negative impact on the polling as opposed to you just snuff this out like on day one. You don't let it get out of control. Then people move on the news. Everybody's memory so short. You go back to Somali fraud, boom, your problem solved. 00:39:37 Speaker 9: I mean, just look at what happened in Portland. I mean Portland was terrible for like a year. I mean they were out there every single night doing violence, and then finally the Portland Police Department decided to come in and tear their camp down and immediately it was not totally done, but pretty fizzled out. And now, you know, just before this shooting, it was I mean, people were going out there and there was nobody on the street. So now they've had a bit of a revamp after renain A Cole Good was shot. But but I mean they went in one time and just took the whole thing down and had a constant presence and it really stopped a lot of the violence that was happening. And that's all it took. 00:40:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you, And you know, last question, we got to go. We got one minute left here. But gentlemen, are you taking care of your safety? Please tell me that you guys are taking care of your safety. Nick, you guys have had some close calls. You drove that car out the you know, the graffiti on your car, the broken windows. Like, is there where a place where we can donate to your security? Let us know. 00:40:40 Speaker 9: Yeah, we just got added to Black Line Guardian Fund, which is something that Brandon Tatum started right nonprofit, so I believe all the donations are tax deductible. It's basically you can find it pinned on my Twitter under any of my tweets about the protests picked the link knee, Nick Sorder, and Nick su earlier on there. You just find us whoever you want to donate to. You just donate to our individual funds. 00:41:03 Speaker 2: I encourage everybody watching please donate to these guys. They're doing heroes work in there, and I know that you guys are doing even more that we can't discuss here, just kind of helping help them reduce the chaos. So God bless you both. Stay safe. We'll have you on again. I'm sure there'll be more of these stories. Sadly, take care, guys. 00:41:20 Speaker 8: Appreciate you guys. 00:41:27 Speaker 4: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com