THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 146 — A 24-Team Playoff? Boring, or Whoring?
The Charlie Kirk ShowOctober 17, 202601:29:3041 MB

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 146 — A 24-Team Playoff? Boring, or Whoring?

The Thoughtcrime team gathers to tear apart several contentious topics, including:

 

-Why did Shane Gillis's SNL bit on gym outfits strike a nerve with feminists?

-Will a 24-team playoff ruin college football?

-Will Andrew have to grow a beard after the Dodgers playoff implosion?

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00:00:03 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. 00:00:24 Speaker 2: College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as. 00:00:28 Speaker 1: Young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA college chapter. 00:00:33 Speaker 2: Go start a Turning Point USA high school chapter. 00:00:35 Speaker 1: Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. 00:00:45 Speaker 3: Here I am. 00:00:46 Speaker 2: Lord, use me. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. 00:00:56 Speaker 1: Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of The Charlie Kirk Show. a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments.com. That is noblegoldinvestments.com. 00:01:17 Speaker 3: Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Thought Crime Thursday. For those listening on the audio side or for those watching, you can see I'm here coming in live from the Unhumans Socialist Revolution podcast studio. New book drops on Tuesday. Very exciting. And it looks like we have the entire Fabulous Four lined up today. What's up, guys? 00:01:43 Speaker 4: Andrew's here, even though he should feel shame and hide his face. By the time you listen to this on Saturday, I suspect the Dodgers will just be. 00:01:53 Speaker 2: Fully eradicated from baseball. Andrew, what happened to your Dodgers? The nation will be celebrating. What's going on over there? They've become unhumans. I don't know. 00:01:59 Speaker 5: But you know what I will say is I will say that I would take the criticism from Blake Neff more seriously if he rooted for a team that had won the World Series, like, you know, since Gen Alpha, Gen Z has been born. 00:02:11 Speaker 4: Or, like, a team that has won a World Series in a way other than just frantically throwing. 00:02:16 Speaker 2: Insane amounts of money. 00:02:17 Speaker 3: Tyler's just leaving and running around. 00:02:18 Speaker 2: What is Tyler doing? It has a focal point that set Tyler. Tyler, what are you doing? What is he doing? 00:02:25 Speaker 3: Tyler is trying to destroy the studio now. 00:02:28 Speaker 2: I was just making sure. 00:02:31 Speaker 3: What? 00:02:31 Speaker 2: I was just making sure the camera was working over there. Oh, okay. It is working. Oh, is it? Okay. I just... This beautiful... Brewers hat I've got on. 00:02:41 Speaker 3: No, I was going to get to the Brewers hat. I was going to get to the Brewers hat. 00:02:45 Speaker 2: You can't be disgusting. 00:02:46 Speaker 5: Literally, Blake has the audacity to clown on me when we're back-to-back champions. 00:02:50 Speaker 2: We've won three in the last six years. It's amazing what you can do when you spend $ 700 million on your team. You literally have one. 00:02:56 Speaker 5: It's Paul Molitor and Kirby Puckett. 00:02:58 Speaker 2: Those are your only people. Jack Morris pitched all 10 innings to win Game 7. He's a twins fan. 00:03:05 Speaker 4: You have nothing as cool as Jack Morris going 10 innings to Game 7. 00:03:09 Speaker 2: The Dodgers have so much stuff. 00:03:11 Speaker 5: By the way, you just hate us because you root for the D-backs and they always don't make the playoffs by one game. 00:03:19 Speaker 2: I have a deep-rooted hatred for the Dodgers. That is a fact. I am totally biased. But However, I do want to make the claim, the pitch. I'm into this. For the Brewers. The Brewers deserve. They're one of the longest, most historic franchises in the MLB that hasn't won a championship, that hasn't won a World Series. And they deserve to go. Number one, they're the best record in the league this year. I'm so mad, though. Hold on. 00:03:46 Speaker 5: We literally have B-roll titled Dodgers sad. 00:03:50 Speaker 2: You know what? Let's play it. Up yours, everybody. Roll it. Roll the tape. 00:03:54 Speaker 6: No. 00:03:54 Speaker 7: No. 00:03:54 Speaker 2: Roll the tape. Roll the B-roll. Go. This is ridiculous. Roll the tape. I'm not telling you what number it is. You guys. It is number. You don't even know because you don't even know. I don't even know. Did they take it out of you? There it is. That's not even bad. That's not B-roll. 00:04:10 Speaker 8: 18. 00:04:10 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:04:11 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:04:11 Speaker 8: 18. 00:04:11 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:04:11 Speaker 4: All the sad Dodgers fans. That man is crying. He's staring out. 00:04:14 Speaker 2: Into the rain. That's actually Andrew. He was wearing a shirt like that today with his Dodgers hat on. Yeah, whatever. No, you know how bad of a Dodgers fan Andrew is? He didn't even wear a Dodgers hat today. Yeah, put up 17, too. That's a good one. I don't walk around the office. There we go. 00:04:30 Speaker 4: That's Ralph Wiggum, Dodgers fan. 00:04:31 Speaker 2: Wait, there was a clip I sent over. There was a whole. Nobody cares about this. Oh, there was one. There was one. All right, here we go. It's 15. Yeah, let's play clip 15. Oh, this is beautiful. This is what I live for. This is actually my World Series. My teams can't win anything. So all I live for is to watch L.A. fans. 00:04:49 Speaker 5: Did you see me dunking on you when the D-backs could have gone. 00:04:54 Speaker 2: To the playoffs, but they couldn't? We dunk on ourselves every year. That's ridiculous. Here's the thing. 00:04:59 Speaker 5: I actually think the Dodgers are doing this on purpose in order to avoid the walkout. 00:05:06 Speaker 2: What do we call it? 00:05:06 Speaker 5: Because they're negotiating salary caps in the offseason. And now we've got the Indians who have the 30th largest playoff. payroll against Tampa Bay, who has the 26th largest payroll, going to play the Brewers, who have the 22nd largest payroll. 00:05:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. 00:05:21 Speaker 4: Can you imagine the ratings atrocity that's going to be for MLB? 00:05:25 Speaker 2: You love to hate them. The Brewers have the 22nd largest payroll, and they were the best in the league this year. They have the best record. Which is why you don't need a salary cap. 00:05:36 Speaker 5: Because everybody loves to hate on the Yankees and the Dodgers. That makes for better ratings. 00:05:41 Speaker 2: But here's my point. So they deserve... to sweep the Dodgers tonight. They deserve it. And here's the other thing. They're one of the most storied franchises. They're historic. They're historic by name. One of the commissioners is literally from Milwaukee. The former commissioners are from Milwaukee. And they've never gotten close in most years. And then the other thing is this. They actually used to play their spring training right here in Chandler, Arizona. And then they bailed on you, bro. No, they're still in the West Valley. They're still here, but The Brewers do spring training here? Yeah, when I grew up, the Brewers were in Chandler, Arizona. They had a little park there that was historic. It was right in the backyard, actually, where Bash's had their headquarters. And my grandpa had his 50th birthday party. Okay, nobody cares about any of this. But the Brewers, though, are historic. They deserve this. 00:06:35 Speaker 5: All right, fine. 00:06:36 Speaker 2: And if it's the Brewers versus the Indians, that's the greatest... No, because they're called, what are they called now? The Commanders? No, the Guardians. It's the Indians. The Guardians. They were never not a team. They were a major league. 00:06:49 Speaker 5: Well, why would you root for a team that bent the knee to the woke mob? That's a stupid thing to root for. 00:06:55 Speaker 4: Oh, because the Dodgers didn't bend the knee to the woke mob when they had that. 00:06:58 Speaker 5: At least they're still. 00:06:59 Speaker 2: Named the Dodgers. 00:07:00 Speaker 4: Didn't they have like a mandatory day for the entire team where they came out and were like, We're adding D to LGBT. 00:07:06 Speaker 5: You do not understand the nuances. That was a huge issue for a lot of the players, and guess what happened? 00:07:11 Speaker 2: They did it anyway? 00:07:12 Speaker 5: Clayton Kershaw and all these other guys got together, and they say, we want you to bring back Preaching the Gospel Day, where they profess their faith. The entire third base side of the stadium fills up with Christians, and they do Gospel Proclamation Day, right before the game. 00:07:29 Speaker 2: I will give credit. What was the Dodgers player that put CK on his hat? That was Blake Trinan. That was cool. That was cool. Totally cool. That was the only cool thing the Dodgers have done ever. 00:07:39 Speaker 5: This is the thing that's funny about the Dodgers. It's kind of like the San Francisco 49ers. I grew up rooting for the 49ers, but then they had the whole Kaepernick thing, and I burned the jersey. I was one of those guys that burned the jersey. And I've never gotten back in love with the Niners. It's the team I grew up rooting for, okay? But now, I have to admit, it's like this team that's in a totally woke city, but they got Christian McCaffrey, Brock Purdy. They got Bosa. They've got George Kittle. I mean, they've got Debo Samuel. This is a great team to root for. 00:08:13 Speaker 2: That's because the most-lived cities only like white people. Their coach is based, too. I know. The widest cities in America are the most-lived. 00:08:22 Speaker 5: I don't know if I can say this. Is this going to get Danny in trouble? 00:08:25 Speaker 7: No. 00:08:25 Speaker 2: I'll just say this. You should see his fantasy team, who he drafted. 00:08:29 Speaker 5: He's running an anthropological experiment. 00:08:33 Speaker 2: The Whitey Titans? Yeah, well, he's got a lot of those. He's going to have a hard time on defense. Wait, wait. 00:08:38 Speaker 4: I feel like we're flowing pretty. 00:08:40 Speaker 3: Speaking of tighties, speaking of tighties— I got it. 00:08:46 Speaker 5: They're not whitey tighties. They're fluorescent colors and pinks. We want to talk about Shane Gillis. 00:08:51 Speaker 7: Yes. 00:08:52 Speaker 5: And this is going to be so much fun because we haven't covered it on the show at all. 00:08:56 Speaker 2: True story. I haven't seen it yet. 00:08:57 Speaker 5: Oh, well, if you haven't seen it, let's just play the clip and we'll explain the controversy afterwards. 00:09:02 Speaker 2: Sot 1. I'm all right. I'm fine. 00:09:07 Speaker 9: I got a couple of things I'm dealing with. 00:09:08 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. 00:09:12 Speaker 9: I got to lose weight. 00:09:14 Speaker 2: It's a bummer. 00:09:16 Speaker 9: You know what I mean? When you finally get so fat, you're like, all right. Hit that fat rock bottom. Some of you guys are probably fat as hell, right? 00:09:25 Speaker 7: Hey. 00:09:26 Speaker 9: Just one guy. But no, you hit that fat rock bottom. My fat rock bottom sucked this year. I was in a Bud Light commercial every 10 minutes. 00:09:34 Speaker 3: I'd look up and see it on screen. 00:09:36 Speaker 9: I'd be like, oh, no, I look like a lesbian. I try to go to a public gym. Going to the public gym is a fat guy, especially in New York. 00:09:43 Speaker 2: It's a nightmare, dude. 00:09:44 Speaker 9: Everyone's just the hottest gay guys you've ever seen. They're jacked, and they look at me like, yeah, right. 00:09:51 Speaker 2: I know, dude. 00:09:52 Speaker 9: Also, I haven't been to the gym in so long, I didn't know women just dress like whores now. 00:09:58 Speaker 2: Look, I'm sorry. 00:09:59 Speaker 9: There's no other way to. 00:10:00 Speaker 2: describe. Have you seen it? I've seen it. The shorts. Have you seen the shorts? 00:10:05 Speaker 9: Those neon, they're like the only, they're like artificial bait colored. The wrinkles, the wrinkles go like around the cheeks and all combine at the butthole. And don't look. You're not allowed to look. For real, don't look, because they are filming. I'm in the background of like 10 TikToks right now. And all the equipment, I haven't been in the gym in so long. The equipment's changed. It's all like kettlebells and rubber bands and ropes. I'm not doing kettlebells fat publicly. 00:10:45 Speaker 2: I'd rather die. 00:10:49 Speaker 5: All right, so I watched this, and I thought it was hilarious. And actually, it was funny because I saw Spencer Pratt was like, hey, this week's SNL was actually funny. Jack, didn't you tell me that it was actually funny? Dude. 00:11:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, you were one of the guys. 00:11:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were talking about the other day, and I was like, so I saw, it wasn't that sketch. It was like the home heating and cooling, the AC repair one. So that was going super viral. on X, and then I just scrolled through, and I was like, my gosh. I mean, I used to love SNL. Like, I was an every-week-watch-live kind of viewer in the 1990s and then in the 2000s, and then I just got away from it because it just got so bad. So I watched it, too. And this week, I watched, like, every single sketch, and it was amazing. 00:11:34 Speaker 2: It was so good. I only got, like, halfway through. 00:11:37 Speaker 5: This caused a big uproar, though. But when you watched that monologue, did you even predict? I could not have predicted watching that monologue. 00:11:45 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, no. 00:11:46 Speaker 7: You thought? 00:11:47 Speaker 2: I knew this was going to set off the feminists. Everybody knows that women dress like this. But here's the funny part about it. I don't think he was actually intentionally trying to offend her, offend women. Oh, he did. I know, but I actually think a lot of people are actually twisting this now to be like, Shane Gillis is taking the... Yeah, the holier-than-thou route on women. He said he's in, like, back of 10 TikToks. I don't think he was saying that at all. I think he was being like, this is actually really great. He's, like, supportive. 00:12:21 Speaker 5: But listen, the women content creators on, like, TikTok and Instagram are losing their ever-loving minds. And this is the part that, like, blew my mind. 00:12:30 Speaker 3: This is so hard to watch. It's so bad. 00:12:33 Speaker 5: Well, we have multiple, so I don't know if this is the right one, but we'll go through all of them. Stop 41. 00:12:37 Speaker 8: Not every girl is dressing like a whore at the gym. 00:12:39 Speaker 2: I am, though. Sorry, I am. I'm in a sports bra and booty shorts that my butt eats. 00:12:53 Speaker 10: Yep. 00:12:55 Speaker 5: Okay, so she confirms it. Stop 42. 00:12:58 Speaker 2: I'm not looking for attention at the gym. 00:13:01 Speaker 4: I'm trying to work out. 00:13:04 Speaker 11: Oh, my God. 00:13:06 Speaker 4: Oh, as if women don't already struggle to feel comfortable at the gym. 00:13:12 Speaker 2: You got to make a stupid joke. And now I'm like, well, what. 00:13:15 Speaker 1: Do I wear? 00:13:16 Speaker 2: I'm It's just like that level. 00:13:19 Speaker 5: For the podcast, let's make sure we mute some of those F-bombs. 00:13:23 Speaker 4: The best part about that, which you guys can't hear, is that Angelo is getting extremely exasperated after each of those unchecked F-bombs that got through. Apologize if anyone's listening with children at home. 00:13:36 Speaker 5: We kind of added that last minute. 00:13:38 Speaker 2: We usually bleep them out. Apologies for that. But here we go. 00:13:40 Speaker 5: Sap 43. 00:13:42 Speaker 2: Just so we're clear. 00:13:44 Speaker 11: If your response to a mediocre... comedian on national television, um, objectifying women's bodies, uh, is to call him fat or gross, or you've never stepped foot in a gym. 00:13:58 Speaker 2: Uh, that's fat phobia. 00:14:01 Speaker 11: When you use fat as an insult, you're telling every person who's reading this or seeing this or hearing this, that their body is something that is humiliating and they should be ashamed of it. 00:14:14 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. 00:14:15 Speaker 5: They're literally making musicals about this. I kid you not. This is how much of an uproar this has caused. 00:14:21 Speaker 2: Sot 3. 00:14:22 Speaker 3: Is Shane Gillis funny or just a bully with some jokes? 00:14:25 Speaker 5: Can he make people laugh without putting down other folks? 00:14:28 Speaker 3: You might say comedy is an omelette that's made with broken yolk. 00:14:31 Speaker 4: But why's the yolk of all Shane jokes about all the same groups? 00:14:35 Speaker 2: If you're a woman, or if you're gay, buckle in, Shane's got a lot to say. If you're not white, or if you're trans... He's offended. You're offended. It's not hard to understand. 00:14:50 Speaker 5: Comedy is just funny. 00:14:52 Speaker 2: Comedy is not mean. Comedy is just saying out loud whatever white guys think. Comedy is not bigoted. 00:14:59 Speaker 3: Comedy is just words. 00:15:00 Speaker 2: Comedy is Shane Gillis sneaking in a bunch of slurs. 00:15:04 Speaker 4: Wow, they're going to get a job on like a disinformation governance board or something. 00:15:08 Speaker 3: What's that? 00:15:09 Speaker 2: Gina? Gina Jankovic? What's her name? Nina Jankovic. Gina Jankovic is going to hire them soon. Yeah. Oh, man, that was kind of catchy, I will say. 00:15:18 Speaker 3: Worse than AI. Like, actually, AI would be better than that. 00:15:21 Speaker 5: They probably came up with it on AI and just really did it. 00:15:24 Speaker 3: That was actually one of the most horrible things that I think I've heard, and it caused physical pain. 00:15:31 Speaker 2: But was it more horrible than the video before, though? 00:15:34 Speaker 4: Which, you know, she was talking about objectifying people's bodies because that is certainly an object thing. 00:15:39 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a different kind of disgust. Like, one is visceral and one is more mental. It's kind of hard to explain. Like, one makes me want to vomit, and then the other makes me, like, want to just, like, jam things into my brain. Like, it's hard to explain. 00:15:57 Speaker 5: If you've ever skipped the doctor because you couldn't afford it, you need to hear this. Christian Healthcare Ministries is the Christian alternative to health insurance. In under 10 minutes, you can join and start saving hundreds of dollars every month. As a member, you have freedom to get the best care at an affordable price with programs starting at $ 115 a month. I'll say that again, $ 115 a month. Just think of how you can put those savings back into your everyday needs. And in 2027, CHM isn't raising their prices. so you can kick off the new year with stable and affordable assurance. When you switch, you're not just getting more savings and freedom, your contributions help other believers too. Start today by visiting chministries.org and use the promo code CHARLIE for a 50% credit towards your first month. That's chministries.org and use the promo code CHARLIE. So, So here you go. So we thought it would be a really fun deal. 00:17:00 Speaker 2: Jack, you missed. 00:17:00 Speaker 5: This because you're obviously on the East Coast. But here at the office, we thought it would be a very fun anthropological experiment of our own to bring in ladies around the larger complex of Turning Point and some of the women here in our studio office. And we conducted an experiment... Based on a variety of different gym attires. And we wanted women to base this, right? On a scale of boring to whoring. Throw up the graphic. Throw up the graphic. 00:17:37 Speaker 2: Boring to whoring. Throw it up. There it is. 00:17:40 Speaker 4: There we go. I believe that was not even made with AI. I think that was like old-fashioned Photoshopping. 00:17:46 Speaker 5: And guess what? I also think this would be a really fun reality TV show. Uh, the, the men have to date on us and see which men like which version of the women that, uh, that they would, we would date anyway. So this is, this should have been the title, man. That's what this, this should have been the episode title. 00:18:04 Speaker 2: I know. Right. 00:18:05 Speaker 5: Well, Blake, uh, sometimes struggles with the copy anyways. 00:18:08 Speaker 2: No, I'm kidding. You do a great job. Boring or whoring. 00:18:11 Speaker 5: So we asked women, no, would you find a certain outfit acceptable or unacceptable to wear at a gym? So we got– we're not going to name and shame them, but we asked them yay or nay, and there was a bunch of mixed calls here. So, Foz, you're going to have to tell us what the ultimate outcome was. And, yeah, Jake says it was not AI at all there. This is just old school graphic design. 00:18:36 Speaker 2: That's how we had to make everything merely three years ago. All right. Shall we start? 00:18:40 Speaker 5: And– Audience interaction in the chat is welcome. 00:18:44 Speaker 4: Zuzu already says boring to whoring could be a weekly segment. We'll see if it's any good. 00:18:50 Speaker 2: All right. 00:18:50 Speaker 4: So let's just dive right into it. So each of these we had, do we have nine or 10 women ultimately right on these things? 00:18:55 Speaker 2: But we had, let's just throw up 26. 00:18:57 Speaker 4: That's number one. How did this one shake out? 00:19:00 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:19:01 Speaker 2: All right. 00:19:01 Speaker 5: So I love how you'd like guys described it. Covers chest, high neckline, long sleeves, loose pants, no cleavage. I think we covered that in, like, three check marks. 00:19:13 Speaker 2: What is it? Minimal skin shown. All right. 00:19:15 Speaker 5: You wouldn't be surprised. Angelo, what was the verdict here? Ten to zero boring. 00:19:21 Speaker 2: This is going to be probably ten to zero boring, I bet. All right. Fair enough. That's pretty predictable. All right. 00:19:25 Speaker 5: Next outfit, 27. I would think that this would just be a boring. 00:19:31 Speaker 2: One, right? 00:19:31 Speaker 3: It's, like, the same thing. 00:19:32 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's, like, yeah. All the same ratings. Okay. 00:19:35 Speaker 6: Wait. 00:19:36 Speaker 2: So, zero boring? 00:19:36 Speaker 3: You changed the race, but you didn't actually change the clothes. 00:19:39 Speaker 2: All right. Wait, are we going for a 10 is good or is a 10 bad? 00:19:44 Speaker 5: This is how many women rated this boring, not whoring. 00:19:47 Speaker 2: I know, but is a 10 whoring? 00:19:48 Speaker 5: To be fair, we didn't tell the women that it was going to be rated on boring to whoring. We told them it was unacceptable or acceptable at the gym. 00:19:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like 0 to 10. 00:19:56 Speaker 5: No, so 10 women voted this acceptable at the gym. 00:20:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. We just put our own little marketing spin on it. Oh, but we didn't do a 0 to 10 rating. No, we thought about it. 00:20:06 Speaker 3: Someone is asking, is 10 a whore or is 10 a boor? 00:20:09 Speaker 2: No, it's the number of votes. It was a binary vote. 00:20:11 Speaker 5: We asked 10 women, is this acceptable or not? 00:20:15 Speaker 2: We framed this very confusingly. Yeah, it's fine. We asked 10 women, is this boring or is this whoring? Yeah, exactly. 10 women said. 00:20:25 Speaker 4: super confused about what this is going on because you're only listening you should tune into the Thursday live stream so you can actually see the images. 00:20:32 Speaker 7: We should have made this like you should have made this to like which one it is I know that's what I thought we were going to do so that one was 10 women rated that boring slash acceptable to wear at the gym. 00:20:45 Speaker 5: Zero rated it whoring so we need. 00:20:47 Speaker 2: To guess each of us needs to go around and guess how many of the 10 we thought said boring and how many said whoring That's a great idea. See, Foz agrees. So what was the idea? We need to go around the horn and guess how many we can. That's what we've got to do. 00:21:02 Speaker 7: All right. 00:21:02 Speaker 3: There you go. 00:21:02 Speaker 2: That's a great idea. All right, so let's go on to, I'd assume this is also 10-0. Am I out of their life? All right, let's do 28. Let's do 28. This is the third one. 00:21:09 Speaker 4: So this is, okay, now we actually have a small amount of bared midriff, as it were, but not a lot. And then it's otherwise still a little less boring. 00:21:18 Speaker 2: I'm going to guess this is 9-1. 00:21:19 Speaker 6: 9-1. 00:21:20 Speaker 2: It's a little less boring. Women are predictable. I still think it's going to be 10-0 boring. I'm going to go 9-1 because it shows on the graphic. No, am I wrong? No, I'm going to go 8-2. What was the result? 00:21:35 Speaker 3: Jack. 00:21:36 Speaker 2: It's 10-0. 00:21:36 Speaker 4: I told you guys. Women are kind of herd animals. They're going to all sort of. 00:21:41 Speaker 2: We made most of them do this alone. It doesn't matter. They're going to be super predictable. 00:21:46 Speaker 3: By the way, we have to explain this. I think this is going to be a segment that people have to understand. It does not work in audio. But the graph at all, really, this segment. But it says exposes midriff is clearly on the category of whoring. 00:22:04 Speaker 2: And her midriff is right there. So let me say this. Yeah, go ahead. This woman looks like Kim Kardashian. And if all she was doing is exposing above the belly button midriff, that's pretty boring. 00:22:17 Speaker 7: Right. 00:22:17 Speaker 3: So it's also extremely tight. We should talk about that. 00:22:20 Speaker 2: It's not. 00:22:21 Speaker 5: No, that is really mild. Everything is not except for like those sweatpants. So this is this is a bigger question, though. And so a larger question. 00:22:29 Speaker 2: We could ask in tight. 00:22:31 Speaker 5: That's a larger question we could ask. Jack is it was this all fundamentally flawed because we only asked women. And are women going to be too appeasing? Of their sisters. 00:22:44 Speaker 7: I question your methodology. 00:22:47 Speaker 3: I demand a recount. 00:22:48 Speaker 5: Yeah, it would be interesting. We didn't have enough time. We came up with this like two hours before the show. Maybe an hour and a half. Wait, so what's our evaluation of this? 00:22:58 Speaker 2: You predicted 8-2, and I don't know. If you only have two options here, this is boring. But if it's on a scale of 1-10, this is like... Probably like a three or a four. If porn is a. 00:23:13 Speaker 4: Two out of 10, to be honest, I don't say like three or four. I don't think that level of skin tight. 00:23:17 Speaker 2: No, Jack's right. The skin tight thing is like that is the same. That's what people stare at, too. When you see it, it's also on the list. It's literally on the list. 00:23:28 Speaker 3: Low neckline, cleavage shown, skin tight, short length, exposed midriff. 00:23:32 Speaker 4: MK Brand, by the way, asks, what is the male equivalent of this? And, like, there really isn't. I guess it'd be, like, gratuitously being shirtless at the gym. 00:23:38 Speaker 6: No, no, no. 00:23:38 Speaker 5: I have a thing with, at the gym, if a dude wears one of those, like, skinny, like, tank tops and there's, like, nipple. 00:23:44 Speaker 2: Yeah. Like the ridiculous joke one? Yeah. Okay. But even then, it's. 00:23:50 Speaker 4: Like you're not even really doing that. But you're not doing that to be sexually provocative. You're kind of just doing that as some weird. 00:23:56 Speaker 2: No, you're doing it because bodybuilders... See, of course Blake defends him because this is how he dresses. The thing is, it's like... Are you saying this about me? 00:24:04 Speaker 3: No, I said Blake. 00:24:05 Speaker 2: I said Blake. 00:24:06 Speaker 3: When Blake is off camera, this is exactly how he dresses. I've seen him in those... You want to know this? 00:24:10 Speaker 2: Blake is a bit of a bodybuilder. Yeah. 00:24:12 Speaker 3: I've seen him in those ripped off shirts... And Blake loves to expose his midriff. 00:24:17 Speaker 2: You know what's weird, too? Jack, you just make things up. I'm going to admit, I don't go to the gym. I've seen it, folks. 00:24:24 Speaker 3: I've seen it. 00:24:25 Speaker 2: You are next to a gym. You have no excuse. I don't go ever to the gym. But I will say this. Like what Shane Gillis said, there are a lot of weird dudes at the gym that wear bike shorts and weird stuff at the gym. That's the weirdest thing in my life. Like, is, like, I don't want to go to the gym where there's, like, dudes walking around with skin-tight bike shorts. That's, like, the oddest thing. The other thing is. 00:24:47 Speaker 5: Like, they're putting their butts on the gym equipment. 00:24:50 Speaker 2: That's the thing, too. It's, like, basically bare butt on a gym equipment. Like, I'm not sitting on a piece of gym equipment that, like, what Shane just said was, like, gay guys walking around in bike shorts. In the shower. Like, none of that's interesting. 00:25:07 Speaker 7: I know. 00:25:07 Speaker 2: That's not, like, get me away from that. 00:25:10 Speaker 3: It's like, what's the difference between briefs and bike shorts? It's like there's like the fabric. Like it's pretty much the same thing. 00:25:16 Speaker 2: This is funny. This is funny. Actually, we should play this clip now. Jeff Dye. Should we take a break from the. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:25:22 Speaker 5: Because the Jeff Dye touches on what you just said, Jack. 00:25:24 Speaker 2: So here we go. Clip four. I like looking at the ladies in my gym. 00:25:28 Speaker 7: Right. 00:25:28 Speaker 6: But then they get all mad. Like I came to work out, not be checked out. 00:25:32 Speaker 5: Right. 00:25:33 Speaker 2: I think they want to be looked at. 00:25:35 Speaker 6: That's what I think, judging by what they wore when they went to the gym, right? Yeah, they put on full makeup, right? They got a sports bra, which is underwear, not outerwear. 00:25:45 Speaker 2: I'm sure of it, right? 00:25:48 Speaker 6: Spandex shorts that say juicy on the butt, right? 00:25:53 Speaker 2: They're all confused. Why is everyone staring at me? 00:26:07 Speaker 6: You don't see guys all confused doing squats and jockstraps. Like, why is everyone staring at me? 00:26:14 Speaker 2: That's weird. Oh, that fell out. So, you know what's interesting that follows along these lines, too? So, I have a gym in my neighborhood, my block. And our church, our pastor, essentially, is the number one place... that's like the epicenter for like cheating, for scandals, for everything is the gym. 00:26:41 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:26:42 Speaker 4: And I mean, it's even, it's even like, this is a known thing. It's not even just that what they wear to the gym. It's that like, as far as wanting to be checked out, a real phenomenon that a lot of women do is like, they'll pay to join a more expensive gym. And 100% a part of this that a lot of them will admit to is that if it's a more expensive gym, that means you have higher end male clientele. And so for example, like, If you want to be noticed by a higher status male who might be a more compelling catch. 00:27:09 Speaker 5: I'd love the chat to chime in here. Do you think it's more likely because we're very used to the narrative that men are predators and men are like on the prowl and they want to hook up and they want to catch women's attention. But at the gym, is that inverted? Is it more likely that a woman's there to get a guy? 00:27:25 Speaker 2: I think so. I actually think that's a real thing. I'm telling you right now, the number one bar none place is that a couple, a relationship should be concerned about is if, like, again, all of a sudden, again, this is straight from a church leader that's in the, like, is that all of a sudden your husband or wife is going to the gym all the time. Yeah. At the exact same time. 00:27:54 Speaker 4: And that's both that, I mean, they're getting themselves. One thing, this is a very real thing in terms of, how women file for divorce and stuff. It's kind of a known thing that women, before they break off, will usually have the next thing kind of prepared or lined up already. And so they make themselves more attractive to help do that. But then also there's just the classic, they might literally be cheating with the trainer. 00:28:16 Speaker 2: Well, then there's also the post-breakup glow-up. Or the random guy that they meet at the gym. 00:28:20 Speaker 5: The post-breakup glow-up, though, is a real thing. 00:28:22 Speaker 4: No, but yeah, so this is a real thing. But about the gym aspect, though, it is a well-known thing. Cheaper gyms, I am 99% certain, have more male clientele. I went to a Gold's gym when I lived in D.C., and that's a relatively cheaper gym compared to, I can't remember the name of the other chains, but Gold's is like normal. 00:28:41 Speaker 2: Planet Fitness. 00:28:43 Speaker 4: Planet Fitness is the absolute cheapest one. But then Gold's gym is probably the cheapest if you're just a guy who's pretty committed to fitness and wants to get strong. And that's a heavily male gym. But you get those more expensive ones, you get more female clientele. And this is a known thing. Sometimes advice to men who are saying, oh, if you want to find more women at the gym, join a more expensive gym. 00:29:06 Speaker 9: Hold on. 00:29:06 Speaker 2: Ryan's right, though. 00:29:07 Speaker 5: Ryan says it's because women pay to get away from creepy men. 00:29:10 Speaker 2: That's true, too. 00:29:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, I disagree. 00:29:11 Speaker 2: There's a bit of that, but that's true. What's that, Jack? 00:29:14 Speaker 4: Pay to get away from... The inverse of pay to get away from creepy men is pay to be nearer to desirable men. 00:29:21 Speaker 2: Jack, sorry, I cut you off. 00:29:22 Speaker 3: Correct. No, that's exactly right. That's exactly what I was going to say. Because we're not. 00:29:27 Speaker 2: That's why girls go to Equinox. Yes, that's the Equinox. We've been talking about this. 00:29:30 Speaker 3: We've been talking about this topic for a long time, but we haven't actually committed the thought crime on here. So why was it that it was so bad for Shane Gillis to say this, and yet women were going after Sidney Sweeney like crazy, we remember this, saying that she did the same thing because being too revealing, and why is it that Shane Gillis said, can say the same thing, but he's in trouble. He's not allowed to say that. And a lot of this comes down to it's that there's a lot of these left-wing feminist women who want to have it the same way. They want to have this double standard where they can do whatever they want, but also you're not allowed to criticize them. So they can dress however they want. Women can go and do whatever they want and dress however they want unless another woman calls them out, and that's the problem. 00:30:27 Speaker 2: Hmm. 00:30:29 Speaker 4: Another thing that feeds into this all the way is like a very true thing is that kind of this actually gets at a degree of, I don't know if dishonesty is the right word, but like deception that is actually just kind of latent in a lot of male female interactions, which is women all know that their attractiveness is one of their biggest assets, one of their biggest weapons. But they're also supposed to be pretty ambiguous about it. Like, you're not supposed to just aggressively, like, use your sexuality, use your attractiveness to get things that you want. We all know this happens. It is 100% understood that this takes place. But you're not supposed to be super obvious about it. In the same way that generally, for example, like, we all know that wealth has a lot of power. If you have a lot of money, you're able to get what you want. But it's very crass to just, like, overtly say, like, I have a bunch of money. Give me exactly what I want in this social situation, for example. 00:31:24 Speaker 3: I believe– Blake, I believe there was a certain locker room talk comment that was made by our president back– or at least that surfaced in 2016. Referring to exactly what you're talking– but that's the point that he was making in that comment, which I'm not going to repeat. But the point that he was making is when you're rich– When you're rich. Yeah. 00:31:47 Speaker 2: All right, hold on. 00:31:47 Speaker 5: Let's keep going with the rating system. 00:31:49 Speaker 2: I think, do we have like a medium one? 00:31:51 Speaker 5: Number five. Go to 30. Stop 30. 00:31:57 Speaker 2: All right. All right. So this one's funny because there's no Baird mid-riff, but... Lower cut top. 00:32:03 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:32:03 Speaker 2: I would say this is going to be another 10-0. 00:32:05 Speaker 3: Let's describe this for the people who can't see it. 00:32:07 Speaker 2: Well. 00:32:08 Speaker 5: It's a lower cut top, zip up top, full sleeves. 00:32:12 Speaker 2: You got the beginning of boobs. So cleavage is starting to poke out. Yeah. And it's very skin tight. It's a pretty. It kind of looks like a. It's pretty modest. If you colored that. 00:32:24 Speaker 4: Bright blue, it would look like a crappy superhero outfit from like. 00:32:27 Speaker 2: A low budget superhero adaptation. Yeah, it's basically spandex. The whole thing is like. Here's the deal. If I saw a girl wearing this, I would think she's at least trying to be modest. Yeah, all right. I don't feel like I rate about this or anything. I would say born. I don't either, but it is very tight. 00:32:38 Speaker 3: It's super tight on top, super tight on bottom, and that's it. 00:32:42 Speaker 2: I'm going to guess this is going to be 9 to 1. This is going to be 9 to 1. 00:32:46 Speaker 5: Based on the way they're rating everything, I'm going to say 10-0. 00:32:48 Speaker 2: I can't see her from here, but is she Middle Eastern? Because this would definitely get her killed. She looks black. Oh, she's black. All right, what is it, Angelo? Oh, it's 10-0. It's 10-0. See, I told you. October 15th. Write it down. 00:33:04 Speaker 5: Set an alarm because the second that date passes, there's no extension, no grace period, no second chance. Liens, wage garnishments, bank account seizures. That's the IRS taking what you've earned. 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Mention the code KIRK26 when you call for $ 250 off. 00:34:18 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the next one. 00:34:19 Speaker 4: No, let's do, I don't know if we can do all, let's do number seven. I'm told this is a pretty 50-50 one. 00:34:24 Speaker 2: All right. So I want to see. Give it away. 00:34:27 Speaker 5: All right, do, what is this? 00:34:31 Speaker 2: 32. Okay, here we go. Now we're talking. Okay, there we go. 00:34:34 Speaker 5: All right, so describing it for people listening on audio, this is. 00:34:37 Speaker 2: Oh, come on. She's a whore. 00:34:40 Speaker 5: She's a whore. 00:34:41 Speaker 2: This is basically like a. 00:34:44 Speaker 5: It's a sports bra, basically, with skimpy little straps, but it's a full-covered, like, basically Lululemon. 00:34:50 Speaker 2: Bottom, okay? Midriff showed... This is your standard DC lobbyist... Dude, this is the gym in Phoenix that I go to. 00:34:57 Speaker 3: You see girls like this all over D.C. 00:35:00 Speaker 2: All over D.C. 00:35:02 Speaker 4: The real scandal is part of the arm tattoo. 00:35:04 Speaker 2: See, here's what the lobbyists have on just underneath the fake pencil skirt, you know, whatever they wear over to go see. And then they whip it off, and this is what they're wearing all around D.C. It's terrible. Now, I'm telling you, every lobbyist. Jack. explain all over. Are you like going to lobbying meetups? No, I'm saying, I'm saying get out on the street and they just rip off their shirts. 00:35:29 Speaker 3: No, no Tyler, Tyler, Tyler's talking about, because like, you'll see these, these it's either early. There's two, uh, there's three waves of them in DC. One of them is the early morning joggers or yoggers. Uh, I don't know if it's soft. And then there's the ones who like, who do this in the middle of the day. And they're like, they'll dress like this in the office. I'm like, Oh, I'm going for a jog. And then they, They just go out and they come back. And then and then there's ones who do it at the end of the day. So you see like herds of them stay away, just all over Capitol Hill, K Street. And you need to stay away from them. You see completely away from them because they are evil. They're they're completely and utterly evil. And you talk about this even before Lindsay Clancy. I've told friends about this, that if we're in D.C. together and I was like, you see them, they're very, very fit. But you have to remember, evil, completely evil. 00:36:19 Speaker 2: I think this one is probably 6-4. Jack, what's your guess? 6-4. 00:36:23 Speaker 5: I think six women rated this as acceptable. 00:36:25 Speaker 2: Well, again, so you're. 00:36:27 Speaker 3: Asking me to guess what other women at Turning Point said as opposed to what I said. 00:36:33 Speaker 5: Jack, this whole debate, this whole controversy is women on women. Women are mad at Shane because they want. 00:36:38 Speaker 2: To be able to dictate what they wear. 00:36:40 Speaker 3: But again, I said I question the methodology of the whole thing because, again— We are guys, and Shane Gillis is a guy, and men will criticize women. I don't always criticize. 00:36:51 Speaker 2: Women the same way. I would say, I think it's going to be... What's funny about it is, I think only two say that this is boring. 00:36:59 Speaker 4: I think it's going to be 6'4, whorish, and I'm going to say, one thing that's funny about this is, I do think, frankly, a woman's bust size is going to determine how they evaluate it. 00:37:12 Speaker 5: We have a good video on this, by the way. 00:37:14 Speaker 2: If she had not much going on there, I think no one would be bothered at all. All right, this is clean. Hold on. Angela, what's the reveal on this one? What's the reveal on this one? Five-five. Five-five. Okay, I said four-six. I thought this was an eight-two. She hoeing. This is pretty bad. She hoeing. 00:37:36 Speaker 3: She hoeing. 00:37:37 Speaker 2: I mean, most of the Xs here, it checks the boxes. Low neckline, cleavage shut, skin tight. Exposes midriff, more revealing materials. I mean, that's pretty bad. All right, hold on. 00:37:47 Speaker 3: Wait, what is the difference between skin tight and more revealing materials? Are you talking like fishnets? Are you talking like cutaways? 00:37:58 Speaker 2: What is the difference? I think thicker stuff. I don't know. Okay, hold on. 00:38:02 Speaker 5: So somebody made the comment that bust size matters when it comes to this outfit. I don't agree, but there was a video that Kylie, just play the video that we're talking about. 00:38:12 Speaker 2: Go ahead and play this. 00:38:14 Speaker 12: You get on national television and call women whores for their workout clothes. And SNL, you gave that shit your stage? I wear bikinis on the internet most. 00:38:23 Speaker 2: Of the time. 00:38:24 Speaker 12: I get that exact material from men in my comments for free. Yes, and I'm judging your joke because it's not good. The punchline is that a woman showing skin deserves contempt. What an embarrassing thing to need an entire national television audience to hear. 00:38:39 Speaker 2: Is she trolling us? 00:38:40 Speaker 5: She knows exactly what she's doing. 00:38:42 Speaker 2: This is every... This is TikTok. I want to explain. 00:38:47 Speaker 5: Why we have TikTok. 00:38:49 Speaker 2: The Chinese want you to watch that. What's up, Jack? 00:38:52 Speaker 3: I need to explain something about this because notice she's using the high angle. Young Kings, you must beware the high angle selfie. She's using the high angle selfie here because she's hiding things she's hiding something that you don't want to see and no she's she's obviously showing you something she wants you to see but she's also she's also hiding something she doesn't want you to see and that is of course her waist size oh yes beware the high angle selfie young kings be careful all. 00:39:25 Speaker 5: Right so let's go what's another what's. 00:39:28 Speaker 2: It they said to they said we should do three All right, do 33. And so does this escalate? 00:39:34 Speaker 5: All right, is this boring or whoring? Now, this is an interesting one. 00:39:37 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:39:38 Speaker 5: Because she has baggy gym shorts, which I actually think would be great. Those are perfectly fine. But that is a very scantily, that is a small topic. 00:39:49 Speaker 2: This is an interesting one. 00:39:50 Speaker 5: I would say I'm going to go 7-3 in favor of whoring. 00:39:55 Speaker 2: I'm going to go 6-4 again. This one, I don't know. 6-4 whoring. Baggy shorts don't seem that bad, I guess. 00:40:02 Speaker 4: There's something that's different about those compared to extremely tight yoga pants. 00:40:06 Speaker 5: No, but that top is way too tight. If your wife or daughter went out like this to the gym, you'd be like, no, sweetheart. Let's try a different top here. 00:40:15 Speaker 3: Different top. Should have a different top, but yeah, I'm going to say this one was probably 5'5. 00:40:19 Speaker 2: They're pretty conservative shorts. I'm going to be honest. They're pretty conservative shorts. They are. They really are. But you're working out in a bikini top. That's what this is. Yeah, I mean, the bikini top piece is a. 00:40:29 Speaker 3: Little- No, that's why I'm saying 5'5. No. 00:40:32 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:40:32 Speaker 2: I'm going 7'3, whoring. Yeah. The last one was 5'5. I'm going 7'3, too. What do we got? Oh, wow. 00:40:40 Speaker 3: Nine to one. 00:40:41 Speaker 2: Women thought this was nine to one. The women were hostile. It's the top. It's the top. They were hostile. All right. All right. Women are just tearing other women apart. 00:40:48 Speaker 3: Give me one to nine. 00:40:49 Speaker 2: No one hates women like women. So women don't like when other women wear this. Yeah. Is what we're learning from this. Yes, exactly. All right. What's the next one, Foz, that we should do? So no one likes this except for Shane Gillis. What's the next? He was saying skip to 35 now. So this is going to be, yeah. Outfit 10. 00:41:04 Speaker 7: 35. 00:41:04 Speaker 6: Okay. 00:41:04 Speaker 2: Okay. All righty. So this is the outfit that Shane was talking about. This is definitely. Oh, come on. No, this is just. 00:41:17 Speaker 4: The shorts that suck into your butt. This one's funnier because it is like clearly a photo of. 00:41:21 Speaker 2: A woman kind of being dead. you know, thottier or whatever. 00:41:26 Speaker 3: She's got the Instagram foot. Have you ever seen them do that Instagram foot? They all do it to toe. 00:41:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is going to be a 10-0. This is an absolute 10-0. We're getting the I can fix her comments in the chat. 00:41:37 Speaker 2: 10-0. 10-0. Absolute 10-0-ho. 00:41:41 Speaker 8: Shane. 00:41:42 Speaker 2: That's a 10-0-ho. So the shorts that she's wearing there are what Shane was talking about, though, which are the The suck into your butt shirts. I learned something. Which, by the way, I want to say this. When I've seen girls, and this is why I was bringing up the D.C. thing, because I don't see that around here. I don't see most women jogging in that. 00:42:00 Speaker 5: Me and my wife's gym, because we rushed here. We had no idea what gym to go to. We went to one of the big ones. 00:42:04 Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm not talking about the gym. I'm talking about even jogging on the street. 00:42:07 Speaker 7: Oh, yeah. 00:42:07 Speaker 2: I think it's so weird when women wear these out in general, but I think it's even weirder when they're jogging in these. Yeah. Because number one, that can't be comfortable. And number two, like, why are you like, again, we've heard about it. It's, it's, it's terrible, but people get like murdered on the street. Like they get stalked and they get, you know, again, we've heard about it. It happens in lots of different places where they get, they get drug off by a psychopath who like murders women. Why would you wear this out? And I, and again, I've seen it here. I've seen it. I've seen it in D.C., I've seen it on the street. I know, they do it. Why are you doing that? Back East, you're right. 00:42:48 Speaker 5: I was just from back East, and women do dress really provocatively in New York. 00:42:52 Speaker 2: It's like because they feel comfortable because there's so many people around. 00:42:55 Speaker 3: Wait, Andrew, Andrew, you were just in New York, right? Can I ask you a question? Because I noticed this when I was up for the U.N., the General Assembly. I noticed something in New York, and I wonder if you noticed the same thing, just like walking around the street, that kind of thing. Um, everyone was skinny. Every single person I walked into was skinny. I did not see any, any chunguses or yeah, I don't know. I don't, I didn't, I didn't see any, I didn't see any, any, any big girls. I didn't see any big girls at all. 00:43:27 Speaker 5: That's a whole other, that's a whole other thought crime here. Jack is weight directly implicate the way you're going to, you're going to judge us. Fah says we should play Outfit 9. 00:43:37 Speaker 3: Well, my question is, though, is do you think, where did all the big girls go? My thought was, is it Ozempic? Is, like, Ozempic and the Semiglutides, like, is that just sweeping everywhere? 00:43:48 Speaker 2: Well, in New York, New York's always been a thin city relative to others. Because they walk. Yeah, well, they have to walk everywhere, and it's a high-income city. He says we should do 34. 00:43:58 Speaker 3: No, no, I've been to New York before, and I see some big berths up there. 00:44:02 Speaker 2: You don't see that many tortas in New York. 00:44:05 Speaker 5: All right, this was apparently one of hot debate amongst the ladies. 00:44:09 Speaker 4: That's interesting, especially because, like, does pink make it somehow more aggressive, even though it's just. 00:44:14 Speaker 2: A color choice? So this is a two-piece. 00:44:16 Speaker 3: Yes, it does. 00:44:17 Speaker 5: It's an ensemble piece. It's very skin-tight. But it is not like a bikini top. 00:44:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a much better top. This is very standard Instagram. Not just gym apparel, but also feel very comfortable to post on Instagram. I know a lot of friends. Again, I've been surprised. Fairly conservative friends who will post this. 00:44:40 Speaker 5: Conservative women do this stuff too, just to be very clear. I'm going to say 5'5. 00:44:44 Speaker 2: And again, no hate, but I think women feel very comfortable in this. I bet this is like a 3'7. Yeah, I'll go. I'll split it. I'll say 4-6. 4-6. 4-6 in favor. First number is boring. Okay. I bet most think that this is boring. 00:45:00 Speaker 5: Okay, so you're saying 7-3-0. 00:45:01 Speaker 2: This is clearly more conservative than some of those. I'm saying 5-5. Jack? I'm just telling you, the number of women I've seen post this, I think women think that this is perfectly fine. 00:45:10 Speaker 6: Oh, look at Buzz. 00:45:11 Speaker 2: Wait, we got to get Jack's. Jack, don't look at the chat. These women would... Give me your rating. This would be 5-5 if that was black instead of pink. 00:45:18 Speaker 3: I was going to say. 00:45:21 Speaker 3: Well, I was going to say three to seven hoeing. 00:45:24 Speaker 2: You got it. Wait, no. Inverted. Seven to three. I was wrong. Whoring is the women. Wow. Whoring takes the cake. Whoring takes the cake. 00:45:34 Speaker 3: No, that's what I just said. 00:45:35 Speaker 2: No, that's what I'm saying. We just got to get these out of ten. We got to score this out of ten next time. 00:45:40 Speaker 3: This is very confusing. Three boring, seven whoring. 00:45:42 Speaker 2: All right. 00:45:43 Speaker 5: No, it was women thought this was inappropriate to wear at the gym by a margin of seven to three. 00:45:48 Speaker 2: And then, oh. So this is what, okay. 00:45:52 Speaker 5: Do we have one more though? You guys said we should do 38 next, right? 00:45:54 Speaker 2: All right. Do 38. 00:45:55 Speaker 5: Well, that'll be the last one. 00:45:59 Speaker 2: Okay. 38. See, this is all, this is like barely even different from the previous one. Like it's just, okay. It's longer. It's like full pants, but they're super skin tight. Oh, Oh, of course. Of course. That's why we're doing that one. I'm going to say this is 10. Oh, boring. That's so boring. 00:46:18 Speaker 11: Okay. 00:46:20 Speaker 2: You dirty guys. I didn't... Okay. What is Zuzu Petal? 00:46:23 Speaker 5: You boys won't understand this, but that bra doesn't give enough support if she is over a B. It's whorish, smaller than a B, cup size, boring. 00:46:31 Speaker 2: Oh, I see. 00:46:32 Speaker 5: She's saying if it's over a B cup, it's whorish, smaller than a B cup, boring. 00:46:37 Speaker 2: Guys, guys, the... Let's take that down. The new press secretary can wear whatever she wants, all right? She's fine. She's in great shape. Leave her alone. She's in great shape. I didn't know we were doing that. 00:46:46 Speaker 8: Uh. 00:46:48 Speaker 2: Don't come at the new press secretary, all right? 00:46:50 Speaker 5: That was 10-0 boring. 00:46:52 Speaker 7: Boring. 00:46:52 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:46:53 Speaker 2: Totally appropriate. Jack agrees. Color matters. Going back to that, that was very similar to the one previous. Yeah. Which is that most women, I'm just going to tell you, most women, I have some friends that are very conservative on Instagram and stuff like that, friends' wives, things like that. I've seen them post that on the regular. And you can tell they feel really good about themselves. And I think that this is like a, To me, I think it's more about them wanting to be like, I like how I look. I want to wear something that's pushing the envelope a little bit. That's where that came down to a 5'5. You know what? 00:47:28 Speaker 5: I learned something, though. Jack, did you know this? You know how women's bras have an underwire, right? It's a supportive thing. They are now making gym shorts with the underwire for the gluteus maximus. 00:47:44 Speaker 2: Wow. That is a. 00:47:45 Speaker 5: Real thing that they're doing. 00:47:47 Speaker 2: A wire? 00:47:48 Speaker 5: Well, it's not a wire, but it's like a firmer strip to. 00:47:52 Speaker 2: Push up the butt. Well, if you pay for a fake butt, you've got to have a wire to push it up. Well, no, I don't even think these women necessarily are doing that. 00:47:58 Speaker 5: No, but a lot of women are. 00:48:01 Speaker 2: The new boobs is people buying butts. 00:48:03 Speaker 3: Andrew, are you wearing them right now? 00:48:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it really helps me. I feel obliged. I feel obliged. I'm just saying. 00:48:11 Speaker 3: I could use a little more butt support. I'm just saying. As I'm going throughout my day, maybe I'll get it in my next suit. I'll get it in the liner. 00:48:18 Speaker 5: People don't understand the rigors of sitting in a broadcast chair all day. 00:48:22 Speaker 2: You have no idea. Do you think Charlie would have rated all of these unacceptable? I think he might have. 00:48:28 Speaker 4: He probably would have said just like, actually, very loose gym shorts and then like a shirt. 00:48:33 Speaker 5: I think he would have rated... Basically, I think there is a legitimate problem with a lack of modesty and a normalization. 00:48:42 Speaker 2: Of a lack of modesty. Uh, but the, I think Jack. 00:48:45 Speaker 5: You were onto something really critical because the real thought crime is why is it happening? And why is it happening in gyms? And this is funny. I think Shane. 00:48:54 Speaker 3: Gillis and the guys and girls thing is it's, it's who calls it out. It's if another guy, if a guy calls it out, then that guy's a misogynist. That guy's evil. That guy's everything. If another girl calls it out, then that's like totally fine. And because we saw girls doing that with Sidney Sweeney because they were losing their minds. But Shane Gillis made the exact same point about just women randomly and female billionaires in public that he's been saying. And by the way, it's not like all females are doing this, by the way. But he makes the point as a man and suddenly he's not allowed to. That's the real thought. 00:49:30 Speaker 2: I'll say this. Most of gym clothes were defined that we see today. By the 80s. So the 80s was when a lot of this started. That's true. And it really hasn't changed that much in what women wear since the 80s. Now, to be fair, they're definitely showing more, I think, legs-wise. And there's definitely... It's tighter in some way. 00:49:50 Speaker 4: If you look at an 80s outfit, like an 80s aerobics video, they'll be wearing a tight outfit, and yet it just doesn't feel as aggressive. 00:50:00 Speaker 2: Or a baggy shirt over the top of it. But what Shane has pointed out that's a newer invention, again, is like... The booty shorts. What's the company that the Kardashians own? It's called Skims. Skims? 00:50:14 Speaker 3: Skims? 00:50:14 Speaker 2: Skims. Skims. But there's a lot of companies that do the skin tight everywhere, super intentionally drawing eyes to that. Yeah. That's over the top. That's got to stop. 00:50:28 Speaker 5: What's funny about all this, Jack, you have to give Shane Gillis his due because it's all a giant promotional scheme for his show, Tires. 00:50:36 Speaker 2: And he basically does the whole skit. 00:50:38 Speaker 3: Tires is so good. 00:50:39 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:50:39 Speaker 5: So we'll play the scene. But I love that it exposes that the women dress in a provocative way. That would attract attention, but then they want to get mad at you for looking at them. That's the part I'm most fascinated about, the psychology of this. We'll play it, though. 00:50:57 Speaker 2: Sot 2. Hey, bro. 00:51:16 Speaker 3: Hey, what's up? Not cool. 00:51:20 Speaker 6: What? 00:51:21 Speaker 2: That's my girlfriend. Nice, dude. 00:51:24 Speaker 3: You think it's cool to just stare at girls in the gym? 00:51:28 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I wasn't staring. 00:51:30 Speaker 9: That's your girlfriend? 00:51:30 Speaker 3: If I were you, I'd get her some fucking slacks. I mean, good for you for letting her out of the house like that. If it was me, I'd have her in a fucking burka, dude. I'd be Sharia on her. 00:51:38 Speaker 2: You need to leave, bro. Come on, dude. I'm not going to leave. 00:51:40 Speaker 13: If everybody had to leave and look at their ass, this place would be a fucking ghost town. 00:51:44 Speaker 3: And we got another one. 00:51:46 Speaker 5: This is the second guy we caught today leering at Brooke. 00:51:50 Speaker 1: You know, women shouldn't have to worry about what they wear to the gym. 00:51:54 Speaker 2: Are you f * * * ing filming me, dude? Don't use that machine. 00:51:57 Speaker 3: It's a trap. 00:51:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, no s * * *. Where were you five minutes ago? Pretty nice though, right? 00:52:01 Speaker 3: Do you have anything to say for yourself, bro? I didn't know you were filming. 00:52:06 Speaker 9: I wouldn't have said any of that stuff. 00:52:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, objectifying woman. You know that's not right, right? Yeah, yeah, of course. 00:52:13 Speaker 6: It doesn't sound like you know that, because it sounds like that's exactly what you just did. 00:52:17 Speaker 2: I think it's cool you let her dress like that outside. 00:52:20 Speaker 6: And? 00:52:20 Speaker 2: Sorry about all this tree of lost stuff. 00:52:22 Speaker 3: And? 00:52:22 Speaker 9: Give me a second. 00:52:23 Speaker 2: Oh, what's wrong with you? Why were you staring at her ass? Answer me. Look at the camera. 00:52:29 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, you're scared. 00:52:31 Speaker 2: Say you're sorry. 00:52:32 Speaker 3: What else? 00:52:41 Speaker 4: I want Johnny Lawrence from Cobra Kai to just come in and do a karate kick to that guy's face. 00:52:49 Speaker 2: You know that type. That type exists. It's so bad. It's so annoying. 00:52:55 Speaker 5: An important message from Noble Gold Investments. November 3rd, control of Congress is on the line. And whatever happens, your savings are going to feel it. 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Past performance does not guarantee future results. 00:53:55 Speaker 3: It's great that like Shane, this is why I've said that you got to support tires because he's like the last guy doing actual offensive comedy. And so not only does he go into the, you know, just the, the basic of, you know, the basics question of the apparel and, you know, how, how the dresses at the, at the gym, but then he goes to the next level and he goes into this like ambush, Tik TOK culture, struggle session, all that stuff that's going on, which again, he was willing to put himself on a struggle session and, In order to trigger that same response because he knew that's what they would do. 00:54:32 Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's– it's so interesting, though, the female psychology because it does seem– and obviously it's not all women, of course. 00:54:38 Speaker 3: But there is a certain type of– Feminist psychology. 00:54:40 Speaker 5: Feminist psychology, that's right, that want to be free to dress as provocatively as they can at the gym, but then they would also get mad at you for mentioning that it's provocative or leering at it, which I don't know what the other– what, what other motivation you'd have other than you want to be looked at to dress like that. It's just a fascinating, fascinating modern conundrum. 00:55:04 Speaker 2: Um, yeah. Foz brings up a good point. 00:55:06 Speaker 5: The Cornell girl, uh, Jane Doe was a, was a gym rat as well, which is big time, which is an interesting tie in. 00:55:13 Speaker 2: All right. 00:55:14 Speaker 5: I think we exhausted that one. What do you guys think? Let us know in the chat, by the way, we want to watch, uh, for all your thoughts. 00:55:21 Speaker 4: Good argument for a home gym, all of us. But we're going back into the sports world. This really had everyone amped up today, except for Jack, because Jack doesn't follow sports. College football is going to be ruined forever. It will never be good again. I don't think it's official, though, yet. 00:55:37 Speaker 3: I was literally at a college football game last weekend. 00:55:39 Speaker 2: It's almost official. It's almost official. There's nothing more demeaning than Blake telling you you don't care about sports, Jack. What's that supposed to mean? I follow sporting events. Anyway, they are very close. I had to sit. 00:55:55 Speaker 3: Down with my kids to talk about the Jalen Hurts news earlier today. And, of course, this coming on the back of Nick Sirianni just being a complete laughingstock across the entire internet for the past week. 00:56:13 Speaker 2: Well, whatever it is. Well, then surely, Jack, you know exactly what we're about to talk about. 00:56:17 Speaker 3: I don't love college sports. 00:56:19 Speaker 2: I have your back, Jack. You are big on the Eagles. You're big on the Phillies. 00:56:26 Speaker 5: Every time that stuff comes up, you and I always have a fun debate or a conversation about it. 00:56:31 Speaker 2: I'm actually on the other side of you guys. 00:56:32 Speaker 3: I checked out of college sports. 00:56:34 Speaker 2: A while ago. 00:56:35 Speaker 4: Anyway, the news is college football playoff is nearing a negotiated deal to have a 24-team draft. College football playoffs starting next year. 24 teams. 00:56:47 Speaker 2: This is an abomination. That would be three quarters of the NFL. This is an abomination. Why are you guys so against it? Because it's an atrocity against college sports. 00:56:55 Speaker 6: No. 00:56:56 Speaker 2: How is it not? No, it's everything that everybody's always wanted. No, it is not. For reference, we had four teams in the playoffs all of, what, six years ago? Yeah, nobody wanted 12. Then it went to eight. Then it went to eight. Everybody hated it. 12 last couple years, and now they want to take it to 24. 00:57:08 Speaker 4: That would be eight teams with a bye and 16 teams playing into those eight teams. 00:57:14 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, time out. Time out, guys. Time out, guys. You just want ASU to get in every year. Yeah, of course. I want ASU to have a chance to get in. That's incredibly lame. 00:57:21 Speaker 5: That means that the regular season doesn't matter anymore. 00:57:25 Speaker 2: Put it this way. That's not true. 00:57:27 Speaker 5: College football is the only sport in the country where the week one, game one match. 00:57:34 Speaker 2: Guys, there's 200 and some odd Division I programs. Are there? 00:57:39 Speaker 11: Yes. 00:57:39 Speaker 2: For Division I? Come on, we're really talking about, like, 50 teams. No, not FBS. There's, like, 50 teams that matter. 00:57:46 Speaker 4: No, there's 60-something. There are 138 teams in FBS. 00:57:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's 138 teams. Yeah, but there's, like, 50 that matter. 00:57:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, but more than half of those teams are in, like, the bullcrap conferences that don't matter. 00:57:56 Speaker 2: Conference USA. Okay, okay. So what's interesting about a 24-team playoff It's nothing. You could have some Cinderella stories. Is that you're going to have some Cinderella stories? It's just, it's everything that everyone loves. Why don't we have every team in the playoff then? Let me finish, Blake. It's everything that everyone loves about March Madness. No. 00:58:13 Speaker 6: No. 00:58:14 Speaker 2: Yeah. No. This is bad. Everything that everyone loves about March Madness is now more accessible on the 2014 playoffs. You get this. 00:58:23 Speaker 6: No. 00:58:23 Speaker 2: Everything. 00:58:24 Speaker 5: You're going to have four and five lost teams making it into the playoffs. 00:58:27 Speaker 2: No, you're not. 00:58:28 Speaker 4: Yes, you are. Okay, check the top 25 teams list from 2020. 00:58:34 Speaker 2: You might have four lost teams. 00:58:35 Speaker 4: You will have four lost teams, and there have been five lost teams that have finished in the top 25. 00:58:39 Speaker 2: Let's look right now at the top 25. It's not the whole season. I know, but where we're at right now. You should look at the ending rankings for last year. There was very few five lost teams in there. I guarantee you. There's no five lost teams. Right now, Right now, the rankings that show for, oh, here we go. 2024, 2025, final rankings. I'm checking 2022. That's a really good example. So this is week 14. 00:59:09 Speaker 4: So this is after rivalry week but before they go into the final bulls NC State Mississippi State Texas South Carolina Notre Dame LSU that is five teams in the top 25 that had four losses Five four-loss teams. 00:59:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. Wait, did I say five six? So there's only five teams out of 24. Sorry, I said five six. There's six teams. You shouldn't be in the playoff with five losses. Six teams. Six teams in the top 24. That includes the championship game. So? Okay. So they got into a championship game, so there were four or three-loss teams going into a championship game. Well, all right. 00:59:46 Speaker 5: Last year, USC and Michigan were ranked 20th and 21st, and they both had four losses. Iowa had four losses. Yeah, because they went to the championship. And then Alabama had four losses. 00:59:58 Speaker 2: These teams went to championship games. 01:00:00 Speaker 5: And TCU had four losses. So that's a lot. 01:00:04 Speaker 2: Of four losses. 01:00:06 Speaker 4: If you have lost four games in the season, you should not be eligible to win a national title, period. 01:00:11 Speaker 2: We're at final rankings here of last year. So let me make the pitch to you real quick. Final rankings. Let me make the pitch. Let me make the pitch. 24, North Texas, 12 and 2. Here's the thought. You don't. So, no, no. Here, hear me out. You don't think that a North Texas or a Navy team, a really good Navy team, that's never going to make it to a 12. They're not going to win it. Okay. But they could, they could win game one in a, in a, in a 24 team round Robin. So you have a Navy team last year that was ranked 23rd of the final top 25. That team could for sure have a Cinderella story when a game one is You know how else they can have a Cinderella story? Win more games and finish in the top 12. They can't. They're at 12-2. 01:00:59 Speaker 8: 12-2? 01:01:01 Speaker 2: Okay, they couldn't have lost zero games, lost one game. But that's the point, is that all of the teams that aren't in the top four in the big four conferences have to win out 100% of their games. And so if they get bought off to play one tough game. No, no, hear me out. No, hear me out. So if they get bought to play a tough team. So the only way to make it into the top 25 as it is, you have to schedule tough teams to make it in. But that's my point. So if you schedule like a Navy or another independent that is incentivized to go independent, plays, schedules like four or five really, really tough teams, FBS teams, and they lose two, but they win two of those teams, games, and they crack like the top 20, they're not going to make the playoffs still. That's stupid. 01:01:49 Speaker 5: No, but you're going to have playoff games that are like underdogs favored by– or one team is favored by 30 points. 01:01:57 Speaker 2: You can't do that. This is lame. Yeah, but that Navy team could have been legitimately good. 01:02:02 Speaker 5: You're going to have college teams resting their best players. 01:02:05 Speaker 2: Yes, they'll rest starters. 100%, this is enough teams in the playoffs that a team will rest its starters in rivalry week because, oh, they have two losses. They can't get a bowl game, but they're not going to get knocked out of the top 25. You know why they won't? You know why they won't? Because rivalry weeks are in their bonus contract. Coach's bonus contract. 01:02:22 Speaker 3: Okay. 01:02:22 Speaker 2: Well, what if they stop doing that? What if the coach just doesn't know? Why would they stop doing that? What if it's not in his contract? It might be in some contracts, but not others. I'm telling you right now. What about the week before? What about the week before? Unlike you, I served in the prestigious role of on the board of regents. And I hired coaches, Blake. 01:02:40 Speaker 5: Coaches. 01:02:40 Speaker 2: Coaches. Is that why ASU has been so bad? ASU had a good season. Had a good seat. No, this is before when I was on the board, but every single team in America has bonuses written into college sports for right. That's what actually makes it cool versus a college football or a pro football. There's no bonuses for. 01:03:01 Speaker 5: By the way, they're nearing a deal. We should be very clear nearing a deal. So Jack is like, where's the thought crime here? Cause Jack always, Jack is, Jack doesn't like sports. Jack, Here's what I would say is the semblance of a thought crime. 01:03:14 Speaker 2: They bring in NIL. No, I love it. 01:03:18 Speaker 3: Because you guys are so boring. This topic is so boring. 01:03:21 Speaker 2: You're ridiculous. 01:03:22 Speaker 3: Like, where's the thought crime here? You guys got to say something spicy. 01:03:24 Speaker 2: We're fighting over this. But here's the thought crime here. 01:03:27 Speaker 5: There's nothing spicy. They wanted to limit how many games they played in college because they wanted to protect the health of the athletes because they were not getting paid. 01:03:37 Speaker 2: They were amateurs. 01:03:38 Speaker 5: And so they knew that some of these guys are going to go pro. You've got to protect their bodies, right, where they can make money. Now you insert NIL. These guys are making millions of dollars, some of the top ten. 01:03:51 Speaker 2: Oh, man. Danny's getting amped up. What did you say, Danny? All right. Here's what I'll say. 01:04:00 Speaker 5: No, but the problem is now that there's money involved– and Jack just left again. Now that there's money involved, then– Now they don't care about the health of these kids because they're already making millions. So now they're going to make as much money off of them as they can because that's all this is. It's all about TV money. It's all about– Which is great. 01:04:19 Speaker 2: No, it's not. This is categorically the death of college football. It is. College football with a 24-team playoff. You guys are so wrong. College football with a 24-team playoff. Jack, you can sneeze. 01:04:29 Speaker 4: College football with a 24-team playoff is just a minor league– mute his mic. College football with a 24-team playoff. is just a minor league for the NFL. It exists only for gamblers. 01:04:41 Speaker 2: What do you think? It exists only for all of them. What is March Madness? I don't like March Madness that much. You don't like March Madness? I have never filled out a March Madness bracket. 01:04:50 Speaker 8: Yeah, but in college basketball, there's upsets. In college football, you can't have a team favored by 30. 01:04:55 Speaker 2: They're never going to win. I just told you how you could have an upset. There's been teams. No, okay. Here's what's funny. 01:05:00 Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait. 01:05:01 Speaker 2: Time out, time out, time out. There's been teams that have never made the playoff that easily could have upset people. Hey, by the way, look, I'm an ASU fan. A few years ago, what happened? ASU actually got into the top four because we won the Big 12. And then we ended up having to play Texas, who was, I can't remember what the line was, but it was like two touchdowns or something. And we brought it down to the last second. We went into overtime, I believe. Because Texas is always overrated. And it was back and forth. Yeah, but that's the point. It's like we were in like a Cinderella story with Scataboo. No, you're in Big 12. You're Big 12. You can do whatever you want in the Big 12. But ASU is a once in every 20 years makes it to the playoffs. All right, here's the thing. But here's the point, going back with this. There are teams like North Texas I brought up last year, Navy. There's like James Madison, JMU. All right. No, hear me out. Hear me out. SMU, too. We have Echo. 01:05:57 Speaker 8: Yeah, but JMU lost by like 30 to Oregon two years ago. 01:05:59 Speaker 2: I know, but hear me out. Because the structure, if you have more teams, you play worse teams in round one. 01:06:07 Speaker 5: So here's what's funny to me, though, like legitimately about this whole conversation. Tyler has never been more animated, and Jack has never sort of boycotted a segment. 01:06:16 Speaker 4: I just like how Jack has to get really defensive. Like, I love sports because he has his Philly brand he has to protect, but he, in fact, doesn't like sports at all. 01:06:23 Speaker 2: That's because Temple sucks at everything. And so he has to let... Because there's Temple sucks, the Eagles. 01:06:28 Speaker 3: I gave you the opportunity to go after the degenerate gamblers, and you guys totally cucked out. 01:06:33 Speaker 2: I just said it was all for the degenerate gamblers. I was going for that. 01:06:36 Speaker 3: I'm scoffing. 01:06:37 Speaker 2: You have to feed the animals. 01:06:38 Speaker 3: I'm scoffing. This is not the first time I've done this. 01:06:41 Speaker 2: SMU. I brought up SMU. SMU is one of those teams. With NIL, you have to do this. 01:06:45 Speaker 5: Where's the money coming from in NIL? 01:06:49 Speaker 2: Is it ticket sales? No, it's the schools raising the money. And it's going to end up non-profit money. 01:06:54 Speaker 4: You want the big zoomed out thing? We're going to lose America because there is nothing... That white boomers would rather spend money on than just like their college football team and paying salaries to these guys. 01:07:09 Speaker 2: I would rather, I would rather, I would rather the white boomers. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I would rather the white boomers spend money on this thing. Just give it to the university. 01:07:19 Speaker 4: Well, 100%, but I would rather they, like, for example, 100%, a 100% real reason that, like, they won't get rid of insane woke college programs is because the moment they start making noises about this, someone goes. 01:07:30 Speaker 2: Like, we're going to have a hard time getting recruits for the football team. 01:07:34 Speaker 5: You just got Jack back. Jack, chime in on that. 01:07:37 Speaker 3: By the way, by the way, people are asking in the chat, yes, of course it is a MyPillow. It is not the first time I've had the MyPillow on the show here because we've had boring topics before. that I required my pillow for. 01:07:45 Speaker 5: This is the first time I remember you doing this. 01:07:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, this is the first time. This is revisionism. This is revisionism. 01:07:51 Speaker 3: No, it's literally not. You can go back and look. And I've done this joke before. No, but you're exactly right. It is something where, look, there's a lot of people who, and there's nothing wrong with liking sports. Obviously, there's nothing wrong with liking college sports. But at the same time, there is something where it's like, Guys, we're losing our country. We are getting into a situation where we've got communists at the door. We've got Bolsheviks at the door. We've got violence increasing all over the country and political violence increasing. And yeah, these people think that this is like a number one issue. 01:08:30 Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually think that is a big thought crime. And Charlie used to rage against it. We actually had defund the university movement. 01:08:37 Speaker 2: Do you remember? 01:08:37 Speaker 5: It was defund you. Wasn't that what we called it? What was it called again? 01:08:45 Speaker 2: Defund You. I have no idea what you're talking about. 01:08:47 Speaker 5: We were getting boosters. 01:08:49 Speaker 3: I thought it was just Defund the Universities. 01:08:51 Speaker 5: No, I think the website was like Defund You, and we racked up like $ 50 million or more in people that said they were going to pool their donors. money from the universities so these are big boosters big uh university donors that were saying we're going to pull our donations from the universities because they've gone woke but what you're saying is you have no but none of us have ever heard about this because ultimately it's something that like rich white boomers don't want to do they don't want to pull their money because they like the sports team they weren't willing to put up with underwater basket weaving and gender studies because of the football team. 01:09:26 Speaker 2: Yeah but no no that's not how it works though these guys if a lot of these people who support the university it's actually a good thing because they're actually putting money into nil now instead of putting money into like to name a building after themselves. 01:09:40 Speaker 5: Okay, so it could be like draining. 01:09:43 Speaker 2: It was called DivestU that we had. DivestU, that's what it was. And we went to people. We got like literally hundreds of millions of dollars. I couldn't remember what it was. Removed from public universities. But usually what happens is the university has a nonprofit. They'll go to, you know, again, these exact same football boosters. And they'll be like, hey, do you want a name on a building over there? We'll give you free football tickets for the rest of your life if you name a building that goes through the foundation. But now they're going into the NIL as opposed to funding the school directly. Yeah, instead of funding the school directly. 01:10:17 Speaker 5: Isn't money fungible, though? If they come out with a profit, they're. 01:10:19 Speaker 2: Going to pour that back in. Yeah, I mean, they get a percentage of it. But look, it's less wiggle room. It's like, hey, if we have a quarterback we have to pay $ 8 million to, $ 8 million is going to the quarterback. That's crazy. So crazy. But that's what I'm saying. I would rather burn that money on. 01:10:37 Speaker 2: On a college quarterback, then give that to the woke left agenda. I just think it's making everything worse. I really do. I actually think it's going to make it better. I really do. I miss the days. I'm telling you. 01:10:48 Speaker 8: I don't know, man. 01:10:49 Speaker 2: No, no, no. You can't have it both ways because either they cheat and they give all these things under the table and you have these mob bosses at the universities or it's out in the public and it's way more kosher. Yeah. I mean, these guys are still paying kids– in different ways to play on these teams. That's a totally separate conversation. 01:11:12 Speaker 5: By the end of the year, more than 60,000 babies will have been saved by pre-born centers. Just this year, 60,000 babies. And for every baby who's saved, there's a mom who's saved from a lifetime of pain and regret. Take a stand for life by providing an ultrasound for a young woman. 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Yeah, we had conversations about this before. 01:12:27 Speaker 6: Really? 01:12:27 Speaker 7: Yes. 01:12:27 Speaker 2: No, Charlie would be furious. Yes, we did. No, we talked about this. I'm going to pull the tape. 01:12:31 Speaker 4: Charlie might have been briefly won over, and then I would give him a reasoned argument for why you were wrong, and. 01:12:38 Speaker 2: He would understand. You don't have one. You don't have one right now. I have a completely... Okay, Navy and North Texas last year. 01:12:43 Speaker 4: I have an argument that you cannot respond to. 01:12:46 Speaker 2: How do you ever find out? You cannot respond to this. Clip 12. You will not be able to respond to this. Play it. Play it. Navy ended the season last year with a win over Cincinnati, 35-13. They were a really good team. 01:13:00 Speaker 4: They lost two games, and so they didn't make the playoffs. No, you cannot respond to this. Clip 12. Start playing it. 01:13:07 Speaker 2: All right, here we go. 56 yarder. It's got, no, does not have the leg. 01:13:15 Speaker 13: And Chris Davis takes it in the back of the end zone. 01:13:17 Speaker 2: He'll run it out to the 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 45. There goes Davis. Oh, my gosh. 01:13:22 Speaker 13: Davis is going to run it all the way back. Auburn's going to win the football game. Auburn's going to win the football game. He ran the missed field goal back. He ran it back 109 yards. They're not going to keep him off the field tonight. 01:13:37 Speaker 2: Holy cow. You have no answer to that. That would have been an irrelevant game that didn't matter at all. That's not true. No, because basically Alabama wasn't able to compete for the title as a result of that. Because that was the last game of the season. And they should be able to be in the college football playoffs, though. No. They should both be in the college football playoffs. That game would have been totally. 01:14:03 Speaker 4: They wouldn't have even bothered running that play. 01:14:05 Speaker 2: It just would have been irrelevant. They might have just played it out, whatever. Let's play it safe. That's not... You think that... You think that... You think a rivalry team just gives up in the last minute? In the last game of the season? You fundamentally don't understand college football. 01:14:20 Speaker 4: You think NFL teams don't have rivalries and they just totally slag in the last week of the season because it doesn't matter? 01:14:25 Speaker 2: College football, they totally would. College football, they would do it more. It would be more tempting to do it in college football. No, I think the NIL argument to protect the players is actually more relevant to that than the college football playoff expansion. I'll tell you, a rivalry would never quit in the last minute. Yeah, they would. 01:14:40 Speaker 3: 100%. 01:14:40 Speaker 4: This is what they always do. This is what they always do when they're running college football. They'll go, college football is too pure. They'll never taint it for the sake of money. And then they go and taint it for the sake of money. They get rid of the rivalry games for money. A & M and Texas don't even play each other anymore. 01:14:54 Speaker 2: Blake. Blake, last year, the only two losses that Navy suffered, one was to Notre Dame and the other was to North Texas. We was also in the top 25. I'm telling you, it's just– I think it's fair to have expanded. 01:15:07 Speaker 5: Listen, they're making college football like professional football. 01:15:10 Speaker 2: No, they're making– professional football doesn't have 24 teams in a– I mean– I guess on both. 01:15:17 Speaker 4: So, again, what's your argument against just having 64 teams in the college football playoff? Why don't we just end the season at Halloween and then just start the playoff there with 120 teams? 01:15:25 Speaker 2: Because you can't play that many games because of the physicality of football. Okay, so shorten the season and then we'll just have 128 teams in the playoff. Wait, Danny, fact check me. 01:15:32 Speaker 5: If you're going to win college football playoff, now you play more games than they do in the NFL, right? 01:15:37 Speaker 8: You'll have to play 18. If you have a bye in the first round, you'd have to play 17. It's the same as NFL. 01:15:42 Speaker 2: So 17 or 18. It's the same. which is exactly what it should be. 01:15:46 Speaker 8: But the problem is the whole season revolves around the school schedule. So if the playoff, either the season's going to have to start in mid-August, a week before even schools go back, or it's going to have to go all the way until February. But the problem is the semesters for school, all these players have to be enrolled in school. The semesters for those schools would have already started, and then they can't transfer. So then it screws up the transfer portal even more, which is why the season can't go further. 01:16:11 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you right now, nothing, there's no, greater feeling. Again, true Americans feel this way. Jack, this is, this is, this is, I'm just going to say this right now. And this is an argument to be made. There's no worse feeling that you experience in American sports than the last week of college football. I'm telling you, it's just, it just, it, you feel empty afterwards. 01:16:35 Speaker 5: Well, that's a personal experience for you. 01:16:37 Speaker 2: No, for every Charlie would agree to like, this is like the worst feeling of sports in the whole year is the week that college football ends. I'm telling you, that is the true fandom that sucks. Everybody feels, and this is with professional sports involved too, especially on the football side, there is way more affinity towards your college team than there is to your pro football team. Way more affinity. Not to say that people still don't have fandom, but there's way more affinity. That is the worst week. And so having two more weeks potentially for your team or. 01:17:12 Speaker 5: Three more weeks is great. MKBrand28 says, I love how passionate Tyler is about this. 01:17:16 Speaker 4: Tyler's really amped up. He just wants to burn it. Tyler, I might suspect that you're just like a secret operative. You realize that, as we said, college football is this obstacle to us reforming America. So you are in a Straussian way, you are arguing for the destruction of college football while pretending to be a fan. 01:17:35 Speaker 2: No, I actually hate the NFL so much. So that you can remove the cold on the American's hearts. I hate the NFL so much. It's just because you're a Cardinals fan. That's not true. I would hate the NFL if I was a Cardinals fan. The NFL's stupid. They are woke. They're way more likely to go woke. College football's not woke? Okay. College football's way better than the NFL. NFL is super woke. And I just, I just think that it's good. It's a healthy balance. And I actually think that it slows down the NFL, the NFL. If you look at how expensive these, these franchises have become and how much money that they have, the only thing that slow that down is actually the expansion of college football. 01:18:13 Speaker 5: And I, I, I like the NFL to watch it, uh, but I'm not like obsessed with it. And they still have that end racism stuff, don't they? 01:18:19 Speaker 2: And the, it's stupid. 01:18:21 Speaker 7: Yeah. 01:18:21 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, um, You know, I used to be a big NFL fan, but Philadelphia, we don't have a team anymore. So now, you know, there's nothing to watch. 01:18:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, unless your quarterback is engaging in dogfighting, right? Like, it's not fun to watch. It's a lot of fun. The players are better. 01:18:41 Speaker 5: Did they move the stadium out Games are more strategic. 01:18:43 Speaker 2: Tyler's right. 01:18:45 Speaker 7: No, no. 01:18:45 Speaker 3: I'm referring to the, I'm just referring to the Eagles last week of just absolute abject failure. And then, and then, and then on the back of all that, Jalen hurts getting a blood clot and being out of the game this Sunday. That just dropped that news dropped today. And people are, some people are even saying like, you might not be able to play any more at all, depending on what, because they were playing in, They were playing in London. And so he had had a blood clot before possibly. And they said he had like some leg problems. That's why he wasn't running the ball as much. And but then they were playing in London and they were saying that possibly the international travel caused the like the blood clot to move into a worse spot. So obviously prayers up for him and as well as the pope, by the way, with this cancer. 01:19:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, man. And that was crazy. And getting lung cancer. 01:19:34 Speaker 6: Geez. 01:19:34 Speaker 3: Yeah. And, uh, I mean, they say he's clear now, but you know, obviously that's not something you don't mess around with. And, um, and, uh, so yeah. So at this point it's just like, you know, it's like, does he do, does, does he have NFL even have, or does the, um, NFL team, it's just like, it's like, whatever guys, it's like, uh, everyone in my family is like, okay. Uh, no, everybody's been busting on me all week about it. And so it's like, Yeah, so maybe we check out the Pittsburgh team. 01:20:03 Speaker 2: Like, you know, same state. 01:20:04 Speaker 3: I don't know. 01:20:05 Speaker 5: Or you could just be a Packers fan. 01:20:07 Speaker 2: Oh, that's great. Jack, let me ask you this question as a Temple guy. Yes, sir. 01:20:15 Speaker 3: I was also at the Penn State game. By the way, Tyler, I was at the Penn State game with turning point action last weekend. 01:20:20 Speaker 2: Let's focus on Temple, though. Imagine Temple next year fields a decent team, right, that cracks the top 25. and they make the college football playoff for the first time in a century. First time ever, literally. First time that they've ever been competitive in a postseason, ever. And they probably won't be for another 100 years. How crazy would the Temple fandom go over there? 01:20:49 Speaker 3: I mean, you're assuming that the Temple fandom exists? 01:20:54 Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm saying. People would be crawling out of the woodwork to show up. It's Philly. I'm telling you, the SEC, every white guy. 01:21:03 Speaker 3: I mean, no, no, I've got, I've gone to temple games. I've gone to temple games. Um, even, even like since I graduated and you know, they, they do play at the link. So it's the same spot where the Eagles, um, which is the former NFL team that Philadelphia had used to play. And, um, you know, it's, it's, it's good and all, but even then, like we go to the cherry and white game, you go to like the, the homecoming game, like it's still not, you know, some big massive fandom like Penn state. 01:21:30 Speaker 2: All right. That's what I'm saying. But that would reignite. Tyler, we really hit the nail. 01:21:34 Speaker 5: Tyler's passions have been fully aroused here. 01:21:38 Speaker 2: I think the 24 team is going to be awesome. Now they could screw up the 24 team. I think it's terrible. 01:21:43 Speaker 5: They say they're nearing a deal, so there's still time to avert the deal. 01:21:47 Speaker 2: They're having eight teams in a bye. 01:21:48 Speaker 5: I actually chimed in on social media against this because I'm hoping that I could inspire others to. 01:21:54 Speaker 2: Do the same. Eight teams will have a bye. It's terrible. And 16 teams will have to compete. to make it to round two. That's awesome. 01:22:03 Speaker 5: So, MKBren, I don't mean to quote you twice here, but this one's for you, Blake. It says, Jack sure knows a lot about this for not being a sports guy, Blake, looking at you. 01:22:12 Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh. 01:22:15 Speaker 5: I figured I'd throw you a bone, Jack, because you've been pouting for this segment. 01:22:19 Speaker 2: He does like to pout. I think I'm catching up on my sleep. 01:22:22 Speaker 3: Catching up on my MyPillow.com promo code POSO. 01:22:25 Speaker 2: Mike Mandel was at the White. 01:22:26 Speaker 3: House, by the way. I did run into him. 01:22:27 Speaker 2: Oh, did you really? What was he doing at the White House? I guess he's still running for governor, right? No, it's over. Oh, he lost the primary. That's right. 01:22:36 Speaker 8: Jack. 01:22:36 Speaker 2: No, he's on the primary, but I did run into. 01:22:38 Speaker 3: Him, actually. 01:22:39 Speaker 2: Jack, tell us. 01:22:40 Speaker 5: We've got to end the show here, but you have Narnia news that you wanted. 01:22:48 Speaker 2: To. 01:22:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, the trailer's out. It's horrible, but I don't want to. You know, I want to give it its due. So why don't we wait until producer Russ is back and we can have a really like just a full on, you know, dissection of the Narnia trailer where it's it's so bad that they had to get Led Zeppelin in to try to save them. Somehow they conned Led Zeppelin into this, who is not known for allowing their songs to be used in movie trailers and marketing and things like this. And so it's really bad, and we're going to leave it at that for now. Also, there's a lot of news about potential controversy internally at Netflix regarding the cost overrun. Some people are saying that there might be a $ 300 million budget for the Narnia film, which is just way, way over what anyone would want to pay for a franchise. 01:23:45 Speaker 5: Do you know they just laid off 1,000 people? Netflix just laid off 1,000 people. 01:23:50 Speaker 3: Oh, amazing. 01:23:51 Speaker 2: Amazing. 01:23:52 Speaker 7: Amazing. 01:23:53 Speaker 3: Where's the cheering? Where's the cheering? We need the cheering. 01:23:56 Speaker 5: Incredible. 01:23:57 Speaker 3: Incredible work. Incredible work, ladies and gentlemen, all around. Just great job. Anytime you can take down any of these enemies of civilization like Netflix, you've got to do it. 01:24:08 Speaker 5: I think that wraps us up for our Thought Crime Thursday this week. 01:24:12 Speaker 2: Jack, you want to take us home? Well... Before we go, everyone, we need your involvement. Download the Turning Point Action app. You can go to tpaction.com app. Download the Turning Point Action app in the top left-hand corner. Tap the arrows. Go to help chase ballots or make phone calls. You can do this from anywhere across the country. I have a question from one of our audience. 01:24:31 Speaker 5: Can you still upload your contacts and find out which one of your friends are low-propensity conservatives? 01:24:36 Speaker 2: Yes, you can on the app. But here's the thing that we would prefer you do. Go into the app. Go to help chase ballots or chase ballots or make calls and click voters near me. It's going to pull up all the people who are close to you on your street. These are like-minded people. 01:24:53 Speaker 7: Yeah. 01:24:53 Speaker 5: These are low propensity conservatives. 01:24:57 Speaker 2: So these are people that are on your street in most cases. They'll pull up the map. They'll show you exactly where they're at. You'll probably know half of these people. Contact them. It's super easy. If every single Republican just went into our app, downloaded the Turning Point Action app, and went to voters near me, I chased ballots and went and just knocked on the people's door. It'll tell you in most places, actually who has a ballot sitting on their counter. So there'll be a flag that pops up here in Arizona. Oh, interesting. That shows this person has their ballot. Do it across the country. Uh, in the States that have early votes that report it. 01:25:29 Speaker 11: Right. 01:25:29 Speaker 2: So, uh, but not every state does that, but here in Arizona, you can help out. You can actually go on there too. There's a blue button for Arizona. So if you want to help us here in Arizona, because a lot of people care about Arizona, uh, trust me, if we, if we do not win Arizona, 2020, it's gonna be way more difficult. So we need your help. Go to tpaction.com slash app, download the application against the turning point action application at the USA application. 01:25:53 Speaker 5: Um, you just gave us a quick update when Blake and I were in your office, uh, on early returns. I know this isn't really thought crimey stuff, but for people interested in the midterm stuff, the, the early returns. 01:26:04 Speaker 2: Are not looking bad, not looking bad. They're in Arizona in particular. Um, We're neck and neck. We're like right there as a percentage of 2022. Yeah. And 2022, remember, was red wave year. So I know we underperformed in red wave year. But if we have a similar result to 2022. 01:26:21 Speaker 5: If we overperform in a blue wave year, it's just as good. 01:26:26 Speaker 2: Honestly, how badly 2022 went, overperforming this year will get us pretty darn close to 2022. And so, look, here in Arizona, it's really simple. It's all we have to do is turn out votes. But I reminded, I tweeted this today. The Democrats want to suppress us at 5%. You know what suppression at 5% looks like? Kamala Harris is president. Yeah. If we would have been suppressed by 5%, just 5%, the likelihood is that Kamala Harris would be your president today and the country would look a whole lot different. 5%. So that's five out of a hundred people that you talk to. If they don't show up to vote, that is Kamala Harris becomes your president. The Democrats are facing that now with the congressional races, essentially. If we overperform by 5% or they can suppress us by 5%, that's going to determine. 01:27:18 Speaker 5: Harry Hinton had a video that was going around today where it was like, if the polls are off by 3%. Republicans keep everything. Republicans keep the House and the Senate. If their polls are off by 3%. And I'm telling you, I believe we can chase 3% to 5%. 01:27:34 Speaker 2: You've told me this, too, in Arizona. We've organized in Arizona, Nevada, and New Hampshire enough to chase over 5%. Right now, we're chasing more than 5%. That's great. All right. 01:27:45 Speaker 5: So one more time on the action item, Tyler, and then we'll sign up. 01:27:48 Speaker 2: Tpaction.com slash app. To download the app, you can go to Voters Near Me just to do your own work, your own homework in your own neighborhood. You can also join us here in Arizona, tpaction.com slash 100. Get assigned 100 voters to help us in Arizona or New Hampshire. We'll assign you to Arizona or New Hampshire. You can travel here. We'll actually give you a free hotel room if you want to come here the last week of October, here in the next couple weeks. We'll send you out. We'll give you 100 names. We'll train you up and send you out. Or you can just work from home, make calls, shoot texts off, things like that. Super easy. The app is super easy to use. Last thing is you can join a Super Chase event. So if you're in a swing state or near a swing state, go to tpaction.com slash superchase these are like super saturday style events you don't have to do anything you just show up and then we'll send you we'll give you materials and give you names uh in the application uh it's it's ideal if you have the app already downloaded that's why i suggest that but that's tpaction.com slash 100 uh to join our commit 100 tpaction.com slash super chase or tpaction.com slash the state that's a swing state If you want to join one of those. Yeah. 01:28:57 Speaker 5: And tpaction.com slash app. If you want to just download the app and it's all there as well. 01:29:02 Speaker 2: And work in your own state. 01:29:03 Speaker 7: Yep. 01:29:04 Speaker 2: All right, Jack, take us home. 01:29:07 Speaker 3: Big, big stuff. All right, folks, the book is on humans, socialist revolution. Make sure you check out on human book.com, special editions and signed editions. If you're interested in that as well, ladies and gentlemen, as always go out there. 01:29:25 Speaker 2: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.