THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 145 — Crime at Cornell? Top TV Shows?

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Oh my gosh, wait a minute. 00:01:45 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, Tyler. 00:01:46 Speaker 6: He arrived exactly on time. 00:01:48 Speaker 3: How did you manifest? Did you manifest him somehow? 00:01:50 Speaker 2: Landing the plane. 00:01:51 Speaker 3: And then. 00:01:52 Speaker 2: I just helicoptered right in. 00:01:54 Speaker 6: Andrew is off doing something cool with the... families or whatever the heck you people call. And that means that that means in coal that. Yeah, exactly. Coal that is off coaling with the vets or something. And so we have Mikey. Mikey McCoy rejoins the squad, which is great because I think he's going to have very strong opinions on an exciting first topic. 00:02:17 Speaker 2: Very powerful stuff. I'm excited. I'm the deep bench recruit. Exactly. Oh, we're missing four or five people. 00:02:24 Speaker 3: The deep state. 00:02:25 Speaker 6: The deep state, yeah, something like that. 00:02:26 Speaker 2: Deep state Mikey. 00:02:27 Speaker 6: Deep state Mikey. Deep bench Mikey. Deep knowledge of television Mikey. Because I think we want to start with something a little bit lighter. We were debating between this and an extremely heavy topic. So I think we're going to ease people in. And that is the classic discussion topic of the New York Times made a list. So everyone argues about whether the list was correct. And this time, the list that the New York Times made was the top television shows of the entire millennium. 00:02:55 Speaker 3: Wow. 00:02:55 Speaker 6: The first 26 years of the millennium. I haven't seen this at all, so I'm really interested in what horrible shows. What's cool about the New York Times when they do it, I know they're annoying, but the New York Times has enough gravitas, enough prestige. They can get pretty serious people, and they can get a lot of them to respond. And so they got about 500 television professionals to vote on what they think the best... 100 TV shows of this, basically of this century, so the past 26 years. And in the least surprising development ever, they said that number one was, that's right, it's not The Sopranos because The Sopranos debuted in 1999. It doesn't qualify. So they said number one. What's that? 00:03:37 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait. 00:03:38 Speaker 7: Let's set parameters real quick here because typically The Sopranos is seen as You know, the start of the golden age of television. So are the parameters from from like January 1st, 2000 on? Is that what we're saying? 00:03:52 Speaker 6: Yes, exactly. The Sopranos actually debuted in January 1999. So even though by far the better part of its run occurred this century, it has to debut this millennium. And so got cut out. And instead, the number one show, actually, since you haven't seen it, Tyler. Can you guess what the number one show was? 00:04:10 Speaker 2: I just cheated. I saw it. 00:04:12 Speaker 6: Oh, you cheated. Mikey, have you cheated and looked up the list? 00:04:15 Speaker 2: I'm looking at it right now. You guys are all... It probably would have been one of my top guesses, though. 00:04:20 Speaker 6: All righty. 00:04:21 Speaker 2: And I appreciate it because Charlie actually loved the show. 00:04:24 Speaker 6: Oh, did Charlie? I never thought of Charlie as a guy who'd watch TV. So the fact he watched it at all is probably pretty remarkable. 00:04:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't watch a ton of stuff, but I always thought it was really interesting how often he talked about how great this show was. 00:04:36 Speaker 6: Okay, well, we haven't said it, actually. The number one show, unsurprisingly, since it wasn't Sopranos, it was Breaking Bad v. 00:04:45 Speaker 6: Chemistry teacher with lung cancer becomes meth dealer show set in Albuquerque, our kind of crummier version of Phoenix to the east. No offense to Albuquerqueans, but it is true. And so number two was the wire. 00:05:00 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, wait. Before you go on, did you know about this? So a guy did a super cut of breaking bads, all its seasons into a two and a half hour long movie. 00:05:12 Speaker 3: What? 00:05:13 Speaker 2: Have you seen this? 00:05:14 Speaker 6: Wait, he did a super cut of what? 00:05:16 Speaker 2: So I never got to see it because it gets knocked off the internet as fast as it gets. I'm sure if you have access to the dark web like Blake does, you could probably find this. So you could probably find this, Blake. I can't. I don't know how to do it. But there was a guy, a fan movie, he spliced all of it together. And apparently it makes perfect sense. So he took all the subplots and all the stuff he took out, but all the main themes... for two, two and a half hours, are squished into that. 00:05:45 Speaker 6: And it's just the whole show as one movie. 00:05:47 Speaker 2: And it's supposedly like an incredible movie. 00:05:51 Speaker 6: That feels like it would be really disorienting. Like a lot goes on in Breaking Bad. Do they just cut out season three or something? 00:05:59 Speaker 2: Again, I haven't watched it, but I've just seen the commentary on it. This guy, and you can pull up on IMDb, it's Breaking Bad stitched into one two-hour supercut. There's a link. I don't know, but it's been kicked off the internet. It was on the internet for years. 00:06:15 Speaker 3: I'll find it. I'll find it. 00:06:17 Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, I've always wanted to watch it. So if you find it and you get access to it somehow into a box, I really want to watch it because people at the time, I think this was like 2017, 2018, people were raving about it. Huh. I've heard about this. You've heard about it, Mikey? I have heard about this. Have all of you guys watched it? 00:06:35 Speaker 6: Because I have a confession. I watched the first two episodes of Breaking Bad. I haven't seen it. And it wasn't really for me. I kind of stopped after that. The only thing I remember is them dissolving that guy's body. And he used the bathtub instead of the plastic thing. And so it eats through. That's the only thing I remember. 00:06:51 Speaker 2: I really got into it. And here's the reason why I got into it. 00:06:54 Speaker 3: Oh, that was great. 00:06:55 Speaker 2: There's not a ton of shows that are set in the Southwest. There's just not a lot. And New Mexico is like New Mexico. But I have some family in New Mexico. It's such a weird place. It's such an interesting place. And I actually think find it like the entire setting. 00:07:10 Speaker 3: Got it. 00:07:11 Speaker 2: Of a show that's intriguing to me. That's like it's set in Albuquerque. 00:07:16 Speaker 6: I feel like we, I feel like America as. 00:07:18 Speaker 2: Wait, you found it already? 00:07:19 Speaker 3: Oh, nice. 00:07:20 Speaker 6: Send it over to him. I feel like as. 00:07:22 Speaker 2: I want to see it. 00:07:23 Speaker 7: Like guys ask, ask, like if you ever need anything on the internet, just ask. I never even knew this existed. I found it before you finished commenting on it. So, yeah, I just put it in the chat. 00:07:34 Speaker 2: It probably wasn't even that hard to find, right? 00:07:36 Speaker 6: I feel like, by the way, all of you who are watching live should comment on what your number one show would be. 00:07:40 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait. You just have to have this. 00:07:43 Speaker 3: Tyler, they're called the skills that pay the bills. 00:07:47 Speaker 2: All right. 00:07:47 Speaker 3: I'm just saying. 00:07:48 Speaker 6: Send me that link, too, because I know we're going to watch this show. 00:07:50 Speaker 2: It's in our podcast. All right. I can't wait. I'm going to watch this tonight. This is, it's incredible. I got an honor. 00:07:57 Speaker 6: Two hours, two hours and seven minutes, two hours and seven minutes. That's it. 00:08:02 Speaker 2: But people, if this is the one that people were talking about years ago, people raved about this cut. They said it was like. 00:08:09 Speaker 3: It released a 2017. 00:08:11 Speaker 2: It says people said people like highly rated it. They were like, yeah, this actually does a huge amount of justice. Obviously like the super fans and all the subplots, like those are all cut out, but like, You get the gist of the entire... So if you haven't watched the entire series, it might be worth it. It might be worth to watch it because you might be interested. 00:08:29 Speaker 6: The fact that it was in Albuquerque does get me thinking. I feel like as diverse as America is in terms of cultures and landscapes, it is a little underutilized. I think it'd be cool if we had shows set in Phoenix, shows set in... You get a lot of shows sort of set in the South, but they don't really lean into the Southern thing other than a handful. True Detective did it a bit with those seasons in the Bayou. Fargo got a bit of it. They have those seasons up in the Northern Midwest. But America's got a pretty strong range. No, Fargo's definitely an example of that. Despite that, it seems like 40% of TV shows take place in New York City. 00:09:07 Speaker 2: There's a show that took place in the Florida Keys that was good. What was that called? It was What's His Face from Friday Night Lights. 00:09:15 Speaker 6: I don't know any of these things. But I will say, apparently, the fifth best show of this millennium is one I have never heard of. 00:09:22 Speaker 2: Bloodline. To me, it matters a whole lot. I'm kind of piggybacking on what you were saying, Blake. I always find it boring whenever a show is set in a generic place. It's always like, Chicago. Everyone knows Chicago. It's very generic. They're wearing a Bears hat or whatever. Boston. It's super generic. It's an overly nice house in the suburbs. of like pretty generic city, like always like pisses me off. I love it when it's like, wow, that house kind of looks like a real house. And it's like in a city that's like not, that's a real American. 00:09:57 Speaker 7: Wait, can I, so can, we guys can we just read the top 10 because i'm looking at the top 10. 00:10:03 Speaker 3: And there's numbers there's there's chosen here that i've never even heard. 00:10:06 Speaker 6: Of well yeah so the top 10 overall was breaking bad was number one number two is the wire that's the hbo show baltimore gangs, crime. That always used to be everyone's number one until Breaking Bad came along. And by everyone, I mean all the nerds who are TV critics. 00:10:19 Speaker 2: I've never watched The Wire. 00:10:20 Speaker 6: Number three, Mad Men. 00:10:21 Speaker 3: The Wire's phenomenal. 00:10:22 Speaker 6: That's the ad show, advertising show, 60s timepiece. Succession, that's basically the Fox News show. 00:10:31 Speaker 2: That's great. 00:10:31 Speaker 6: Yeah, I have not seen Succession. I've heard many of my friends watched it and said it was amazing. Number five is Fleabag. I have never heard of that show in my life. 00:10:39 Speaker 3: I have no idea what that is. 00:10:40 Speaker 6: No idea what that is. It's British something. 00:10:43 Speaker 2: I saw someone else's list that had Fleabag like number two. It must have been a response to this. 00:10:47 Speaker 6: Yeah. It must be a really good show. It's apparently a comedy drama British series. 00:10:57 Speaker 2: I will never support British television. 00:10:59 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely. And then number six. 00:11:02 Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You don't like like Monty Python? 00:11:06 Speaker 2: I mean, Monty Python's like So old, and it's kind of made itself into pop culture. 00:11:13 Speaker 3: Okay, but like current British television. 00:11:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, like modern British television. I just can't support it. 00:11:20 Speaker 7: I'll throw a thought crime on you. I liked the UK office better than the American office. 00:11:25 Speaker 2: So you know what's really interesting? And again, you have to give the UK office credit because it was the original. But did you know that, and you probably know this, Jack, but does everyone else know that Every first episode of every Office spinoff in every country is the exact same script as the original UK's first episode of The Office. 00:11:46 Speaker 6: Wow. 00:11:47 Speaker 3: It's line by line the same. 00:11:50 Speaker 2: Exactly line by line the same in every language, every country. So it's really a fun activity sometimes just to watch the UK first episode and then watch the American first episode side by side. It's really funny. 00:12:05 Speaker 3: I was so into the UK version. This list sucks, by the way. I'm looking at other stuff. 00:12:12 Speaker 6: I think other fun ones on the list. Freaking Game of Thrones at number six. It'd be really funny if they included that. Game of Thrones, but only the first four seasons. 00:12:22 Speaker 4: That should be up. That should be number two. Game of Thrones should be number two. 00:12:26 Speaker 6: Number two, even with season seven and eight? 00:12:27 Speaker 3: Game of Thrones is objectively awful. 00:12:30 Speaker 6: Even with season eight, Mikey? 00:12:31 Speaker 2: No, bro. 00:12:33 Speaker 4: Season 8 was fine. 00:12:34 Speaker 2: Season 8 was fine. 00:12:35 Speaker 4: Charlie actually really liked the ending of Season 8. 00:12:38 Speaker 6: Charlie watched Game of Thrones. 00:12:39 Speaker 3: The ending was good. 00:12:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, Charlie watched all of Game of Thrones. 00:12:43 Speaker 4: Charlie was such a big Game of Thrones fan that he would watch it with his family. In his house, each of their doors had a little cutout image of who they were from the show. Charlie was Jon Snow. But I remember talking to Charlie about the finale, and I was like, it was horrible. 00:13:00 Speaker 2: He's like, no. 00:13:01 Speaker 4: She did what was necessary to take power. 00:13:04 Speaker 6: And I was like, wait, wait, that's a take. 00:13:08 Speaker 3: Wait, he supported, he supported. 00:13:10 Speaker 6: Yes, he did. 00:13:13 Speaker 2: I'll never forget. It was like she did what was necessary. 00:13:16 Speaker 6: What's funny about this is I feel like that shows how bad Game of Thrones fell out of the cultural zeitgeist because the finale was bad. Because I worked here for three years, and I don't think Charlie ever brought up Game of Thrones. 00:13:28 Speaker 2: I remember. We were with our full staff. We were actually doing director's training. It was our first ever real director's training for Turning Point USA. And we had rented a house in San Diego. And that happened to be the same weekend that the final, whatever the day was, I think it was a weekend. Cause it must've been, uh, maybe it was during the week, middle of the week that the final, the finale for Game of Thrones was on. So we, everybody got together in the family room, watched it. And it was unanimously like anger, like animosity, like that. Everybody just like, all right, I'll go to bed. Everyone like just went to sleep like immediately afterwards. Like nobody, everybody was upset, angry. I've never seen anything like it that was, like, so unanimously hated. So that's crazy. I didn't know that Charlie liked it. That's crazy. 00:14:14 Speaker 3: So I can explain that, by the way, as. 00:14:18 Speaker 7: I'll just mention again, folks who don't know, like, I got my whole start on the Internet, like, doing a Game of Thrones blog. And I called the Angry GOT fan and ran that thing. We had, like, hundreds of thousands of viewers, you know, clicks. Back in the blogosphere days, like, kind of like Gamergate, Nerdgate, kind of. 00:14:37 Speaker 3: Uh, timeframe. 00:14:38 Speaker 7: And, uh, so I was just like railing against the HBO show, but from the perspective of a guy who loved the books and the reason that people hated the TV show ending so much is because they kind of use like a book style ending on a show that had stopped following the. 00:14:54 Speaker 3: Books for years. 00:14:55 Speaker 7: So it was a complete mismatch. But if you had read the books, you would know that Daenerys was obviously always evil and She was always like it was the backstory of the evil dragon queen, like how you become an evil dragon queen. She was always just like this crazy, toxic feminist fem boss. I can do whatever I want because I'm a girl and I can just kill people with impunity, which she does with like when she goes to to the Giscari and the slave traders and like just just starts murdering people for no reason who haven't even crossed her, by the way. By the way, she kills her brother. People seem to forget that about Daenerys. 00:15:33 Speaker 6: He had it coming. He had it coming. 00:15:36 Speaker 2: Well, she kind of killed him. 00:15:38 Speaker 7: Again, she set it up that he would be murdered so that she would then become the Targaryen heir. But everybody just misses all this. She manipulates the situation. And she's clearly evil from the very start. And this is what I always argue from Daenerys. from the beginning and like Daenerys fans would be like. 00:15:58 Speaker 3: No that's not true she's a good boss you know all these like. 00:16:04 Speaker 7: Stupid you know filthy show only casuals were naming their daughters like Khaleesi. 00:16:09 Speaker 9: And stuff Khaleesi Khaleesi is a totally acceptable name for a girl yeah but then like but then she turns out like they do the full reveal of her as evil and then she gets murked by Jon Snow. 00:16:22 Speaker 6: And everyone's like no I mean I'm sorry. It's very funny that Charlie took that point of view. I don't know. What's funny is I thought it was pretty bad, but not for the reason everyone else did. What was clearly terrible was kind of everything leading up to the final episode. But I do feel like her going on a massive bender and destroying King's Landing was one of the few upsides to it. 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I've always really enjoyed that show, but. 00:18:37 Speaker 2: People suck up on 30 Rock because of, like, it's all the libs, like, just, like, suck. They think that 30 Rock is, like, their, you know. 00:18:46 Speaker 6: I will say, every time I've watched 30 Rock, it's been funny. I've not been a guy for bingeing. 00:18:50 Speaker 3: That show is so liberal. 00:18:51 Speaker 2: 30 Rock is like the lib fangirl show that's like... Big time. 00:18:57 Speaker 3: Big time. This is like a very millennial... Are you guys sure you're thinking of Parks and Rec? 00:19:03 Speaker 2: No, 30 Rock was the pre-Parks and Rec. 00:19:07 Speaker 6: I think they were on at the same time. 00:19:08 Speaker 2: No, but 30 Rock is like... Again, it's the whole. 00:19:10 Speaker 3: 30 Rock started before. Yeah. 00:19:12 Speaker 6: It's funny. 00:19:14 Speaker 2: I think Tina, there's a whole like lib suck up culture around Tina Fey. And it's like, and if it's big time, if Tina Fey likes you, then, then you're, you're okay. By like lib standards. And they have NBC. 00:19:27 Speaker 3: That's right. 00:19:27 Speaker 6: They have arrested development at 12. That is what I would have put as the number one comedy. I would have put arrested development. 00:19:32 Speaker 2: Was like bar nut before they screwed it up by bringing it back was, was looked at as. 00:19:39 Speaker 6: Top, That's why you always got to end early rather than late. I think it would be a top five show. I am overall kind of a TV hater. There are very few shows I've watched more than one season's worth. 00:19:50 Speaker 2: Of. 00:19:50 Speaker 6: And so I think it stands out that the three seasons of Arrested Development is one of the only ones I've actually watched every episode in a show. And then they released new episodes and those were terrible. So it became a show I haven't seen every episode of. 00:20:01 Speaker 2: The inside jokes with your friends. Arrested Development to me was the last show on TV. Maybe because I think that was after The Office. Yeah, it was after The Office. 00:20:09 Speaker 6: Arrested Development? No, it was before. 00:20:11 Speaker 8: No. 00:20:12 Speaker 6: Arrested Development was 2003 to 2006. 00:20:16 Speaker 2: But it got popular later. 00:20:17 Speaker 6: Yeah, because it was on Netflix. 00:20:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, it got popular. Okay, whatever. 00:20:21 Speaker 6: That's why they brought it back, and that was terrible. 00:20:22 Speaker 2: To me, Arrested Development, you could say The Office, too, was one of those. But Arrested Development was the last show that I can remember that was a TV show that had inside jokes that people still shared between friends that watched the stuff. Since then, I don't even know if I can, like, really tell you a show, like a comedy on TV that, like, people quote regularly and people just know, like, quotes, like, inside funny jokes from that, like you would with movies. And I say this all the time. We talked about this with my wife. Like, kids, like, when I was in high school, and Jack will agree with this, when we were in high school, you used to nonstop quote movies, like, nonstop. Yeah, of course. That was how you talked with people. was basically just conversing with lines from movies. Kids today, they can't even quote one line from any movie they've seen in the last five years. 00:21:16 Speaker 6: That said, I have asked about this, and they will do the same thing with the same movies that we watched. So apparently, if you're 13, it is still the funniest thing in the world to quote Monty Python and the Holy Grail to each other. 00:21:30 Speaker 2: But for our generation, it was like, You could quote Zoolander. You could quote Old School. You could quote Anchorman. You could quote... There was like. 00:21:40 Speaker 3: Adam Sandler, Will Ferrell. 00:21:42 Speaker 2: Every Adam Sandler movie. 00:21:44 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:21:44 Speaker 2: They don't have... I'm telling you, kids, teenage boys today can't even tell you a funny moment from a movie, much less they don't go around quoting lines. And it actually, to me, I think about all the time, how does this impact American culture? Because American culture is a lot different when people are rolling around quoting movies. So. 00:22:02 Speaker 3: I mean, there's different.... 00:22:06 Speaker 7: People do still have... They do still have quotes. Like, they have 6-7. They have Skibbity. Like, memes are still out there. 00:22:13 Speaker 2: No, but those are like words. But those are more like TikTok trends. 00:22:16 Speaker 3: But go with me on this. Go with me on this. 00:22:18 Speaker 7: That, like, shared meme culture does kind of exist, but it's outside of movies now because that sort of writing has left movies, and movies aren't a shared culture anymore. 00:22:27 Speaker 3: But what is shared is memes. So you'll see this on TikTok. You'll see this on. 00:22:32 Speaker 7: You'll see this in just, you know, like regular music people share and the way people talk. But you don't actually see it in movies anymore because the writing has gotten, number one, so bad. And then number two, and like Ben Affleck and Matt Damon talked about this, that when they make movies now for streaming services, that Netflix straight up told them that we know that the audience doesn't watch the movie as they're actually like having it on because they're just sitting on their phones the whole time. So we just make sure that like every 20 minutes or so someone explains the plot yet again to people. And then we just throw an action scene in so people keep watching. And so the idea that like you're going to have a well-written show isn't going to be, you know, isn't going to be something that's marketable anymore. So funny enough, Tanya and I just went back and watched because I've said before that. So Tanya didn't grow up in the US, so she doesn't have that same background like we did, like you mentioned, the 90s, 2000s. Where, you know, we had that shared culture of like Will Ferrell movies. Before she met me, Tanya had never seen a Will Ferrell movie. She was like, I showed her Anchorman. She's like, wow, this guy's really funny. 00:23:38 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I know. He's kind of a big deal. 00:23:40 Speaker 7: And so we're going through some of the Adam Sandler movies right now. And she'd never seen him before. So we watched 50 First Dates and The Wedding Singer. And specifically with The Wedding Singer, I forgot how well, absolutely well written that movie was. Just so many quotable lines over and over. 00:23:58 Speaker 3: So many quotable scenes. You know, you ran over two cones. This could have been people. This could have been guests at her wedding. They were cones! Like, over and over and over. 00:24:09 Speaker 7: Just these quotable moments that, again, like, you don't find them in movies today. Plus, and Tyler, I'd love to get your thought on this, that I don't think people re-watch movies as much anymore either in the era of streaming only. 00:24:22 Speaker 3: I think people. 00:24:24 Speaker 7: like watch a movie and then they dispose of it. I don't think there's movies where people watch multiple times anymore. And that was a huge part of the culture. It was like, you watch a movie, then you watch it again with your friends, then you're all at a party, you put a movie on. 00:24:36 Speaker 6: I'm kind of okay with that change. 00:24:38 Speaker 3: And it's done. 00:24:38 Speaker 6: I'm kind of okay with that change. 00:24:40 Speaker 2: I have a theory on that. I have a theory that clipping has actually ruined movies. That has. That is true. 00:24:46 Speaker 6: Have you seen the way they shoot the movies now? 00:24:48 Speaker 2: Clipping has ruined movies because now. 00:24:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, they shoot the movies with everything centered so that you can clip it just like that. Everything's down the center. 00:24:58 Speaker 2: So everything is directed towards clipping, which, again, proves your point of what you're saying. It's like TikTok has kind of killed trends and themes and all that stuff. But movies now... Think about how many movies don't get watched because the best parts are already clipped and they're on TikTok, Reels, whatever. 00:25:15 Speaker 10: So.... 00:25:17 Speaker 2: It's actually killing the movie. If the movie industry was really smart, they would get, they would like really be hardcore about this and like trying to eliminate it, but they're not because they don't want to look like jerks probably, but it's probably killed things. And then after the fact, instead of going, think about if you had, if you wanted to go back and catch a line again, you had to go watch the movie again, memorize it to a T, go in the parking lot, reiterate it with your friends 50 times. 00:25:46 Speaker 3: Yes. 00:25:47 Speaker 2: I remember so many times, and I don't know if you did this, Jack, but, like, we would go watch a movie, like you said, be like, that was awesome. And we, like, we had to go watch the movie again. We would go back and watch the movie again. I remember doing this with, like, Zoolander or something. I can't remember what it was. Go watch the movie again. And then we sat in the parking lot afterwards, like, rehearsing all the lines with each other. Like, remember this part, remember this part. And then it's, like, you and your friends then bonded. And like, we're like, that's like, we said, and you go to school and you say the line, can I, can I give a class to a teacher and everyone laughs, right? Like, but again, that's not happening. So that interpersonal communication part piece, this is the thing is like, okay, it's getting replaced, but now you're getting fed it from a third party source on the internet instead of repeating it with your friends or like, like punking a teacher with it or doing whatever. Right. 00:26:36 Speaker 8: Right. 00:26:37 Speaker 2: And it's just, to me, that's the reinforcement element is now happening. from a device to your brain over and over, and that's the only place that you're actually sharing that. 00:26:46 Speaker 7: Funny enough, when that movie Step Brothers came out, the Will Ferrell movie, I watched it by myself, and I didn't like it at all the first time. 00:26:57 Speaker 3: I watched it. 00:26:58 Speaker 7: And I was like, I don't get this movie. I don't think it's funny. I don't like it even a little bit. And then, and I'll never forget this, I watched it in a setting where I had like four or five of my buddies around And I was like, this is the best movie ever because we were doing all that. 00:27:14 Speaker 6: It's very true. 00:27:15 Speaker 2: Because you're like barking. It's like Mystery Science Theater kind of in those situations. 00:27:20 Speaker 4: I would add, guys, that the only movies that perform, like 2026 has been a comeback year for cinema. And there's been a ton of movies that have performed. But they have to be like unrealistic, fantasy, sci-fi, massive budget for marketing it. It's like Project Hail Mary, Odyssey, Spider-Man, Avengers, Doomsday. A lot of these have broken the billion-dollar box office records, and they will. Like, Dune 3 is coming out. That's the only movie that can be successful in theaters. I watched Good Will Hunting last night, and I was literally sitting there. The entire movie is just about having a conversation. And I was like, there's no way this would come out in theaters today. And anybody would watch this movie. Like, there's just no way. 00:28:06 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a total flattening. 00:28:07 Speaker 2: Like, it has to have been a movie that came out. 00:28:08 Speaker 6: And it actually matches pretty close with this list starting in 2000. Because if you look at the top films in 99 or 2000, the top 10 movies of the year include stuff like The Perfect Storm, which is about fishermen getting into a storm and sinking. It has What Lies Beneath, which is this sort of horror drama thriller. Harrison Ford, but supernatural. has a rom-com on it. 00:28:32 Speaker 2: Michelle Pfeiffer. 00:28:32 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that was the year What Women Want came out, something in that period. And then you get into 2001, 2002, and suddenly it's Spider-Man, X-Men, Harry Potter. Everything is a big tentpole. Franchise film, lots of special effects, and that's kind of been what's run the day. And as you said, 2026 feels different in that we have random horror movies doing really well again. And hopefully that leads to some creativity. I would say, That would be great, but on the TV thing, before we move on, I feel like we should ask everyone what their number one show actually is, and is it even on the list? 00:29:08 Speaker 7: Can I add something to that, just to what Mikey's saying, and it backs up. In the last week, I watched the new Resident Evil movie twice. I thought it was phenomenal. It's doing really, really well at the box office. It's totally different. 00:29:22 Speaker 3: Practical effects are back, which. 00:29:23 Speaker 6: I think is super cool. Did you watch it twice in an hour because you use your accelerated speed? 00:29:29 Speaker 2: No. 00:29:29 Speaker 3: No, it took two hours. 00:29:30 Speaker 6: Okay. 00:29:31 Speaker 8: Whoa. 00:29:31 Speaker 2: Wait, you watch movies on accelerated speed, Jack? 00:29:35 Speaker 3: Do you even watch the show, bro? 00:29:38 Speaker 2: Wait, wait. No, hold on. 00:29:40 Speaker 4: I know that you watch things on accelerated speed, but not movies. 00:29:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. 00:29:45 Speaker 2: Dude, that's crazy. 00:29:46 Speaker 7: Why would I want to give my time to Hollywood like that? Why would I let Hollywood control my life? Why would I want to waste my time watching that much Hollywood? 00:29:57 Speaker 2: I'm so ADHD. I'm typically working while I watch every movie. 00:30:01 Speaker 6: I don't know why you can watch a horror movie at accelerated speed. The point of a horror movie is there's tension to it. 00:30:07 Speaker 2: Let me finish. 00:30:07 Speaker 6: And then you're watching it at accelerated speed. It's like da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. 00:30:11 Speaker 2: I have to watch things as slowly as possible, stop it, and miss scenes, and I go back and re-watch it. I probably watch a movie four times. 00:30:20 Speaker 3: So you have to actually be high IQ to be able to do this? 00:30:23 Speaker 2: So that's why you guys are able to. I'm perfectly fine saying I'm low IQ. I've never seen... I can't even imagine... I'd have to watch a movie like 15 times if I was watching on TLC. 00:30:36 Speaker 6: I'm sad. By the way, I want to say I want to shout out one of our regulars who's not here today. Dylan, I'm sad you're not here because we're talking about TV and you could be touting all of your favorite animes, which I believe none of which are on the list. But that's okay. 00:30:49 Speaker 7: And I'll even add to that that since I've been– I've got my whole family on it now. So even when I'm with Tanya– who, again, as I mentioned before, she is in ESL. 00:30:59 Speaker 3: English is not her first language. 00:31:02 Speaker 7: Even when I'm with her, we watch movies at 1.75. And when I'm with my kids, it's 2X. Everything's at 2X. And they ask for it. 00:31:11 Speaker 8: Ugh. 00:31:12 Speaker 2: So bizarre. 00:31:13 Speaker 6: So what would your number one show be, Tyler? And is it on this list? 00:31:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to be real with you. I'm... I, and this is, you can call me lame, whatever people make fun of it all the time, whatever. I'm an office fan. I just, I just, the American office, the American office. I could watch. So good. I can, I can, for me, I, if there's like a comfort food in TV, like it's the office, like I could turn on the office in the background and it just like, kind of like equalizes, like makes you happy type of a thing. Like that's like, I would say that's it. If I want to, if I'm going to fight with my, like with my spouse, Like, put on The Office in the background and, like, everything's better. 00:31:53 Speaker 6: One of my favorite facts, and then I will throw to Jack for his favorite. One of my favorite facts about The Office when it was on Netflix still, it was the most popular show on Netflix. Netflix, of course, was the biggest consumer of Internet bandwidth in the U.S. because of all the streaming video. And so there was a given year where Netflix was about, I want to say, 15% of all Internet traffic. And then on top of that, something like about 20% of all Netflix show watches were people putting on an episode of The Office. That's how big it was. 00:32:24 Speaker 1: Yep. 00:32:25 Speaker 6: So it was basically, if you ran the numbers, about 2% of all internet traffic in the United States was people specifically watching episodes of The Office. 00:32:35 Speaker 2: That's crazy. And good for these people, too, because some of those guys are making so much money still annually from all the streaming. 00:32:43 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:32:44 Speaker 2: All of those actors, like, and they probably didn't at the time. I mean, they'll even tell you, you listen to them on the podcast and stuff like that. They tell you like how they thought they were going to get fired. Like after they were going to get, they were done after just a few episodes. Like it's pretty, it's a pretty cool thing that they have made an entire career off of that. Okay. 00:33:03 Speaker 6: MK Bren, by the way, asked if Charlie's favorite show would be Seinfeld. It would be, it wouldn't be on this list because it's not from this century. 00:33:09 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:33:09 Speaker 6: But that was his overall favorite. I don't know what his favorite would be from this century. 00:33:13 Speaker 2: He liked Breaking Bad. He talked about Breaking Bad all the time. Yeah. 00:33:17 Speaker 6: All right, all right. Jack, your favorite show from this century. 00:33:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:33:21 Speaker 7: Well, I was just going to say, funny enough about Seinfeld, similar to what you were saying about Sopranos, did you know Seinfeld actually started in the 1980s? 00:33:29 Speaker 3: If you actually look. I think season one was 1989. 00:33:31 Speaker 7: Was it really? 00:33:33 Speaker 6: It was only five episodes or something, right? 00:33:35 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:33:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I didn't know that. 00:33:37 Speaker 7: It was like a mini pilot kind of like mini series and You know, the lore is that Steve Bannon was actually, like, involved with the financing of it and still. 00:33:46 Speaker 3: Has a piece of it to this day. 00:33:48 Speaker 2: He was. 00:33:50 Speaker 3: Oh, 100%. 00:33:51 Speaker 7: And, you know, the first five episodes are really not that good. But, yeah, it basically set up what became the Seinfeld Empire. 00:34:01 Speaker 2: So while we're on the topic, Charlie always talked about Ozark, too, in a weird way. 00:34:08 Speaker 3: Huh. 00:34:08 Speaker 2: Which is really, this is number 68. Yeah, I forgot about that. But he did watch Ozark. He clearly, he watched Ozark and he talked about Ozark all the time. I wasn't like that big of a fan of Ozark. I thought the first couple of seasons were pretty good, but anyways. 00:34:23 Speaker 10: By the end of the year, more than 60,000 babies will have been saved by pre-born centers. Just this year, 60,000 babies. And for every baby who's saved, there's a mom who's saved from a lifetime of pain and regret. Take a stand for life. by providing an ultrasound for a young woman. When you do, she is twice as likely to choose life. Just $ 28 helps provide. 00:34:44 Speaker 2: That ultrasound that saves one baby. 00:34:46 Speaker 10: $ 140 helps save five, a gift of $ 15, 000. 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Cause it's just, it's just stuff that people didn't like, he obviously haven't talked about it like on campus or whatever, but it's just stuff that. 00:35:42 Speaker 3: People need, you know, they should know. Um, so one of my. 00:35:46 Speaker 2: Favorites, house of cards, obviously like that, those first couple of seasons to like, we repetitively nonstop talked about house of cards with Charlie. 00:35:54 Speaker 6: When I hated that show. It was dumb. 00:35:58 Speaker 2: I thought it was pretty spot on in how people interacted in the DC circles. 00:36:05 Speaker 6: No, that's the thing about it. It's fake. House of Cards screws it up because it's based on a British show. And in Britain, it actually makes sense for this mid-powered backbench of the House whip to maneuver and destroy the people ahead of him in the party, become prime minister. It makes no sense at all in America for the House whip to like connive to bring down the vice president and then he makes himself vice president and then he takes out the president that makes no sense everything in that show is so stupid that doesn't make sense and then the first lady takes him out how that happens doesn't make sense but how the people interact with one another is like so. 00:36:41 Speaker 2: Spot on though like all these people that think that they're so special that work at the capitol and everything else how they act and react is like it's pretty it's pretty funny I don't know. Anyway, sorry, I keep cutting you off, Jack. 00:36:58 Speaker 6: If you watch that, if you watch. 00:36:59 Speaker 2: I'm intentionally trying to cut off Jack every time he's about to say this. 00:37:04 Speaker 7: There's an episode in Fun Fact About House of Cards, as well as Veep, that if you watch, I think it's season three of House of Cards, where he's the president, and he's sending the troops off to some valley on a peacekeeping mission, and he's sending these UN troops off. If you go and look at the front row of those troops that are standing directly behind Kevin Spacey, like the very first guy in the Navy uniform is actually me. 00:37:32 Speaker 2: No way. You're in. You're in. No way. 00:37:35 Speaker 6: Uncredited. 00:37:36 Speaker 3: I was. 00:37:36 Speaker 2: Wait, what? 00:37:37 Speaker 3: They filmed it. 00:37:39 Speaker 7: They filmed it when I was stationed at Navy Intelligence and they reached out to a bunch of guys in the military saying, hey, we want to find people for, you know, who can like take off, take leave. And just film in his background. And I was like, yeah, that sounds cool. So a bunch of us took leave. We went and filmed with that one day. So yeah, got to work with the whole team on the show. And Robin Wright, she's super cool. 00:38:05 Speaker 3: It was cool. 00:38:06 Speaker 7: And I did an episode of Veep as well when you go to that fake Google company. 00:38:11 Speaker 3: My show... which I will say is. 00:38:14 Speaker 2: Oh, there's a. 00:38:14 Speaker 6: I just. 00:38:16 Speaker 1: Shut up. 00:38:19 Speaker 7: The show that I'll add that I'm actually... I like Breaking Bad. 00:38:23 Speaker 3: I love The Wire. 00:38:25 Speaker 7: Game of Thrones, we talked about that. Mad Men, I think is great as well. 00:38:29 Speaker 3: The show that. 00:38:30 Speaker 7: I'm glad to see The Americans is pretty high up on the list. 00:38:33 Speaker 3: I think that's awesome. 00:38:34 Speaker 7: Chernobyl is pretty high up, which I think is awesome. And I will say that I'm really... I was really excited, and I'm really pleased to see that one of the highest shows is one that I absolutely love that hardly anybody talks about, and it doesn't get as much credit. But the fact that it's number 37 on this list is Battlestar. 00:38:57 Speaker 3: Galactica, which I argue is like. 00:39:04 Speaker 7: I think it's that specific show, the 2004 Battlestar Galactica, is the best-made sci-fi show of all time. And it's a show that like, even if you don't like sci-fi, you can sit down and watch it and be like, this is a great show. 00:39:17 Speaker 3: I mean, it's got incredible cast. It's got Mary McDonald. 00:39:19 Speaker 7: It's got, um, ever James almost plays, uh, Admiral Adama, Katie Sackhoff. 00:39:25 Speaker 3: It's just, again, an incredible cast. Great writing. It's a really good show. 00:39:29 Speaker 7: And yeah, prescient because it talks about AI when we're living in a time where that's one of the biggest topics that we're talking about. 00:39:37 Speaker 2: All righty. 00:39:37 Speaker 6: All right. Mikey, what is your favorite show of this millennium? 00:39:43 Speaker 2: Objectively. 00:39:45 Speaker 4: The greatest show of this, you know, 21st century is The Summer I Turned Pretty. 00:39:50 Speaker 2: It just is. 00:39:52 Speaker 3: What? 00:39:53 Speaker 6: What is that show? 00:39:55 Speaker 3: Period. 00:39:56 Speaker 6: Okay. I only know about this show because Daisy would. 00:39:58 Speaker 2: Talk about it. Did Daisy put you up to saying that? No, bro. 00:40:03 Speaker 4: This is the greatest show of our lifetime. 00:40:07 Speaker 2: Okay. It's fantastic. It's fantastic. 00:40:10 Speaker 4: It has nothing to do with love. That's just kind of like that gets in the way of the story. It has to do with this house and they grow up in this house and there's all these traditions around the house. And it's about like, you know, keeping the family together. It's about the nuclear family. It's about true love. It's about it's like the most conservative valued show out there. It really is the greatest show of all time. 00:40:37 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:40:38 Speaker 2: All right. 00:40:38 Speaker 6: That's a pretty strong sell. 00:40:39 Speaker 2: Blake, what's your. 00:40:40 Speaker 6: All right. 00:40:41 Speaker 2: We should guess Blake's favorite show. Is it on this list? No. 00:40:45 Speaker 6: It's not on this list. And I don't watch that much TV. 00:40:48 Speaker 2: What's your favorite show on this list? 00:40:50 Speaker 6: My favorite show on this list would probably be Arrested Development. On the list would be Arrested Development, I think. And then other than that, like I said, I watched very few shows. I did watch all of Game of Thrones. The last couple seasons are really bad, but I was a book super fan. I was kind of in no matter what it was going to be. And, you know, it does a lot of good stuff. And I love Arrested Development, but then they kept making seasons for it, and that was a mistake. I watched a few episodes of Breaking Bad, whatever. A lot of these I watched a couple episodes and I didn't stick with it. Were you attracted to Portia de Rock? So, I don't even know who that is. 00:41:21 Speaker 2: In Arrested Development? Yeah. 00:41:24 Speaker 6: I don't remember anyone's names other than like the core people. I don't know. 00:41:28 Speaker 2: And that is. 00:41:28 Speaker 6: Because that is because we're going to go deep into the recesses of my mind. And I see Dylan has actually joined. He's going to probably semi like this. I think my favorite show of the 21st century is going to be Nickelodeon 2005 avatar. The last airbender. Yeah. All right. 00:41:48 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 00:41:48 Speaker 6: Heck yeah. 00:41:49 Speaker 4: I'm taking mine back. I agree with Blake. 00:41:53 Speaker 2: It was so good. This is the best show. 00:41:54 Speaker 6: It was so good. We got three or four different terrible attempts to continue it because Legend of Korra was bad. Live action version, bad. Live action movie, bad. They're making some new cartoon version. That's going to be bad, too. But that one, that was lightning in a bottle. Everyone thought it was going to be terrible, and it came out, and it was awesome. 00:42:14 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:42:15 Speaker 6: And 14-year-old me was here for it. 00:42:17 Speaker 2: There's some things to mention here. Three shows that are on here back-to-back. 56, Nathan For You. That's a great show. 00:42:28 Speaker 6: I cannot watch Nathan For You. 00:42:29 Speaker 2: It was too awkward. 00:42:30 Speaker 6: It was too painful. 00:42:31 Speaker 2: I love watching Nathan For You. 00:42:33 Speaker 6: Really awkward stuff in television causes me physical distress, and I have to stop watching. 00:42:37 Speaker 2: I can't believe that's 56 on this list, to be honest with you. It's a little crazy that it's that high. Another one is 57, I Think You Should Leave. I actually laughed. every day at clips that's that's a show that's a good example of a show that gets clipped up that basically is just a clipped up show that is a hilarious show and then uh chapelle show chapelle show was probably one of the most transformative shows i. 00:43:04 Speaker 6: Think for that was a very important one yeah for. 00:43:06 Speaker 2: Like people my age and and jack's age like where people like actually like quoted talked about it all the time like That legitimately deserves a higher ranking, in my opinion, without how it influenced American football. 00:43:20 Speaker 3: Well, I thought this was more like dramas. No, it's not. 00:43:24 Speaker 2: It's got ridiculous shows. I think You Should Leave is like a ridiculous show. It's a show about nothing. Have you watched it? It's Tim Robinson. We don't like Tim Robinson because he's a lib. 00:43:36 Speaker 3: But he's not funny. 00:43:38 Speaker 2: I think Tim Robinson's hilarious. 00:43:40 Speaker 6: I think the most interesting thing on here is where they put the reality TV shows or long-running shows that don't really fit in. I don't know. 00:43:50 Speaker 2: Modern Family is really low on this. It's kind of shocking because that was a pretty well-liked show. 00:43:55 Speaker 6: Well, some stuff that's not on here at all. Silicon Valley is not on here, and I thought that was great. 00:43:58 Speaker 2: I like Silicon Valley. 00:43:59 Speaker 6: I love Silicon Valley. Well, the one season of it I watched. 00:44:02 Speaker 2: Silicon Valley is really well-written. 00:44:05 Speaker 6: Matt, I feel like we could talk about this all day. Really quick, though. caboose the masses demand what is your favorite television show. 00:44:12 Speaker 11: So my favorite currently i would say is a night of the seven kingdoms uh even though we only got one season right now um my favorite show that's on the list is number 73 it's barry if anyone hasn't seen that they should definitely check that out it's a dark comedy with bill hater oh yeah. 00:44:28 Speaker 6: Oh i heard that my friends liked that show i. 00:44:30 Speaker 11: Remember also generation kill is an incredible. 00:44:34 Speaker 6: Show That's the HBO Iraq movie or show? 00:44:37 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:44:38 Speaker 11: So it's based on the book by Evan Wright. When we first went into Iraq, he traveled with a group of recon Marines when we first entered Iraq. 00:44:47 Speaker 2: Read the book. 00:44:47 Speaker 11: The book's incredible. The show just as incredible. And also The Terminalist is a good one. 00:44:53 Speaker 2: Excellent. Excellent. One of the shows I've heard about, Beef. Have any of you watched Beef? They've got a second season. Oh, dude. 00:45:02 Speaker 4: No, but Alex Clark swears this is the best show. 00:45:06 Speaker 2: I haven't watched it yet, but I've had multiple people be like, you've got to watch Beef. You have to watch Beef. It's all about, I guess, an interaction of someone getting into road rage or something, and it's a continuation of an entire season of people getting into a fight. I don't know. It's crazy. I'm deeply interested. 00:45:27 Speaker 3: If we are two things. 00:45:29 Speaker 7: If we're doing comedies, you've got to add Tires with Shane Gillis. 00:45:32 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just absolutely hilarious show. 00:45:34 Speaker 2: It's not even on here. That's shocking that it's not on here. 00:45:38 Speaker 3: It's so good. 00:45:39 Speaker 7: And also, Caboose, if you like 97 Kingdoms that much, highly recommend the other short stories slash novellas by George R.R. Martin in that series, The Sworn Sword and The Mystery Knight. 00:45:52 Speaker 6: We're getting TV versions of them soon, so. 00:45:55 Speaker 3: Well, the first, yeah. 00:45:56 Speaker 7: And the first one was almost one to one. And so the guys who are adapting the, um, the Duncan egg series are not the ones who made the game of Thrones, um, uh, proper show. Uh, apparently we're also getting a game of Thrones prequel movie, I think with Robert Pattinson playing Agon, the conqueror, which like is like way back in the, like 300 years. 00:46:17 Speaker 3: Ago of, uh, uh, Westerosi history. 00:46:21 Speaker 7: And, and, uh, Night of the Seven Kingdoms is just great because it kind of like, it pulls you out of the, you know, Civil War political aspect. There is, you know, there is a good amount of politics, but it's just sort of like a knight and his squire sort of going about the land and, you know, getting into hijinks. 00:46:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 00:46:42 Speaker 3: It's really, really cool. All right. 00:46:45 Speaker 2: I have some issues with this list because it looks like they like intentionally left out. like a bunch of shows. 00:46:51 Speaker 6: Well, you're looking at a bunch of shows from the 90s. No, no, no. There's no 90s shows on this. 00:46:54 Speaker 2: No, no, no. MTV Jackass was like a really culturally influential show. That was after 2000. 00:47:02 Speaker 6: Was it? 00:47:03 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:47:04 Speaker 6: Are you sure? Oh, it did. It released October 2000. Wow. 00:47:08 Speaker 2: Jersey Shore. Okay. 00:47:10 Speaker 6: We are not putting Jersey Shore on this list. I don't care if it's influential. I don't care if it's influential. 00:47:14 Speaker 10: Okay. 00:47:14 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:47:14 Speaker 6: So is like, The Black Death. The Black Death is influential. 00:47:22 Speaker 2: Wait, there's a few others. It seems like all the MTV shows were left off. 00:47:27 Speaker 6: Getting Kidney Stones is influential on your life. You wouldn't rank that as a top thing. 00:47:31 Speaker 2: No, Jack, was Punk'd really an influential show? More than some of these crappy shows that were on here. 00:47:39 Speaker 7: No, Punk'd, there was like an 18-month to 24-month period where Punk'd was everything. 00:47:45 Speaker 2: Robin Bigg. Was a big deal. I'm just saying. There's some shows here. It looks like intentionally. A lot of MTV shows were left off this list. Robin Big. Or Rob Dyrdek's Fantasy Factory. Was a big deal. That was the biggest show. For two years too. And again. I'm not saying. I'm not a Jersey Shore guy. I'm not from Jersey. But that was legitimately one of the top rated shows on television. Oh, man. And the Kardashians isn't on here, is it? Oh, no. 00:48:21 Speaker 6: You're shilling for the Kardashians? 00:48:22 Speaker 2: I'm not saying. 00:48:22 Speaker 6: You want Kardashians on the top 100 shows list? 00:48:25 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that these were some of the most watched shows. No, but... Laguna Beach. 00:48:31 Speaker 6: But, Tyler. 00:48:31 Speaker 2: What about The Hill? 00:48:33 Speaker 6: How much TV have you watched? 00:48:36 Speaker 2: The Hill? 00:48:36 Speaker 7: No, there's a difference, though, between what was culturally relevant and had the highest ratings and what was objectively a good quality show. 00:48:45 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:48:45 Speaker 3: I think we should... All right. give the distinction there. 00:48:48 Speaker 2: Yeah. But if it wasn't good, then why did they get such high ratings? 00:48:51 Speaker 6: Because we're a fallen society because we are sinners and God will extract his judgment from many of us. 00:48:59 Speaker 3: Again, I'm going through the same answer for the Cornell story. Yeah. 00:49:02 Speaker 2: Teen mom. Yeah. 00:49:04 Speaker 6: Actually, should we get into that? We've, we've really extracted a lot. This is a very fun discussion. We probably should, but I think we should dive into the Cornell thing because it is mega viral and we have to follow it. We have to chase the clicks. We have to chase the hits. So we talked about this on the show today as well. Have you been following this, Tyler? The Cornell drama? 00:49:22 Speaker 2: I caught it. I caught wind of it and I was like kind of reading it. I was like, this is unbelievable. 00:49:27 Speaker 6: It is very unbelievable. It's very disgusting. Mikey, have you been following this? 00:49:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have. Oh, unfortunate. Unfortunate. 00:49:34 Speaker 6: I only really started to pay real attention to it yesterday, but it's absolutely everywhere. I was pointing out, if you go to the New York Times page, the lead is not AI, it's not Iran, it's not anything else. The lead on the New York Times today was developments in the Cornell saga. This, of course, is a lawsuit that has been filed. A girl who was at Cornell, she took ketamine, she drank a bunch of alcohol, she went to a frat party, she apparently engaged in carnal activities with up to seven different guys. Afterwards, it seems she realized that this was a very humiliating thing to do. And because in our modern society, we don't have a way of verbalizing why you'd be able to do something like that and feel terrible about it and regret it without converting it into, I must not have consented to it. Because if you consent to anything, it's good. So now we circle around back. She's suing everybody. And we have the AG of New York coming in and opening a criminal investigation. Jack, it's like they're trying to revive... You remember 2014, 2015? The campus assault hysteria frenzy? It's like they're trying to do a redux of that. 00:50:46 Speaker 3: Dude, Mattress Girl, the UVA story. I mean, these were. 00:50:52 Speaker 7: People have to remember, too, that these were stories that particularly started. 00:51:00 Speaker 3: Coincided with, like, Gamergate. 00:51:02 Speaker 7: the, the nerd gate stuff I was talking about with game of Thrones and then the rise of Trump, that these were these super, um, just hyper politis politicized, but like in a, in a cultural Marxist kind of sense, um, stories that took over our media. 00:51:18 Speaker 3: We were being told that all men are bad. Every male is a potential. 00:51:22 Speaker 7: Rapist that campuses and fraternities were, um, these hotbeds of this activity and it all fell apart. And funny enough, um, You know, the original one of these, like the Ur, you know, campus rape story, of course, you know, fake rape hoax story was the Duke lacrosse team. And famously, one of the students at Duke University at the time who became very well known on media for speaking out against this was Stephen Miller. I think he was like a college Republican back then, and I know he was in Students for Academic Freedom with David Horowitz, of which I was also a member at the time at Duke. Temple University and also called out the Duke lacrosse case at the time, that it seems like another one of those. So, you know, as we dig into this Cornell thing, Blake, correct me if I'm wrong, but. 00:52:16 Speaker 3: Wasn't this something that. 00:52:17 Speaker 7: She filed a lawsuit first and then like the lawsuit didn't go anywhere and she just, but she didn't actually claim that it was non-consensual two years ago? and now she's claiming it was non-consensual? Like she's, oh, I've thought more about, like, do I have that correct? 00:52:36 Speaker 3: That's an angle to this? 00:52:37 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, no, so I think the lawsuit is new, but she originally filed a criminal complaint with police. 00:52:42 Speaker 1: Okay, okay. 00:52:42 Speaker 6: But that's the narrative everyone's digested, that the New York Times reported on this today, that she goes to the party, does all that stuff, multiple threesomes, and then afterwards, it seemed, they actually, the New York Times, they seem very aware of what's really going on. They charted out, that originally she describes it to her friends. Like it's this extreme thing she's done. Like she's so adventurous and instead people react, they kind of find it disgusting. They find it upsetting. And then she realizes, Oh, this is bad. And then she was, she was actually interested in one of the guys like more seriously. And so she was sending him friendly stuff like, Oh, you know, it was kind of, it was kind of wild, but you know, nothing illegal happened. And she's, Literally the twist that the New York Times highlights today is she was looking forward to a Halloween party at this fraternity after this all happened. And then the fraternity realized this is getting a lot of heat. People are all talking about this. They uninvite her from this party. And then as the New York Times puts it, by about November 3rd, she had concluded that what had happened to her in October was an assault. She goes to police. And then it seems, I think what happened is her friends were giving her a lot of, shocked reactions. So she dialed back. She tried to kind of hide accountability, hide responsibility for this by downplaying her level of consent. Her friends understandably go, wait, what? Then you got raped. You got assaulted. You need to go to the police. She goes to the police. And then I think the police, they start asking her the questions you need to ask. Well, did you voluntarily drink alcohol? Did you deliberately take drugs? Did you consent? Did you ever refuse consent when someone tried to do something? And did they ever Not listen and so on. She wasn't going to lie to the police. So they look at this and they go, well, this is kind of gross, but it's not a crime. And now we have this entire dramatic aftermath. And it just seems everyone is losing their minds about this, except for actually the view, oddly enough. 00:54:44 Speaker 10: If you're looking at your investment portfolio and feeling pretty smart right now, remember, a bull market can make anyone look like a genius. If you've had a good run, the question is whether you keep it. The people who act early do it from a position of strength. The ones who wait act out of fear. There's nothing worse than turning a great trade into a break even because you didn't act in time. 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And, they drag them through and then we find out later, like, that this is, this is a hoax or, you know, it was obvious it was a consensual relationship, whatever, right? Because that's, at the end of the day, that's, that's what's, that's what's most meaningful is that, you know, was there consent? Was there, you know, doing all of that? But in the framework of like a semi-normal relationship, and again, where it's like, this is clearly not that, right? This is clearly a situation where society is so broken that, You have an abnormal relationship, which I'll tell you, I think is the epitome of, again, society really. I mean, the men, young men, the numbers that were just released this year are getting worse and worse on young men and young women wanting to be in relationships, particularly young women. 00:56:56 Speaker 6: It's interesting to me that this blew up when we've seen polls that say, yeah, what, 66% of women say their problems are caused by men? 00:57:03 Speaker 2: Yeah. Problems are caused by men. And again, this situation reinforces it. 100%. Because this is one of those situations where clearly the outcome could be is that, okay, this was all consensual or consented or whatever. I don't know. We don't know. We don't know what the situation is. God forbid, heaven forbid, that it's a situation where it's not. But regardless, the situation is that now you have these things are polarizing to the fact, to the fact that men and women, young men and young women get even more freaked out. Right. And it's because they're putting themselves in environments that are not normal or healthy or, you know, that are going to take them to closer to marriage or like a relationship. Any young man that engages in this, even if this wasn't reported, because 99% of these things don't turn into this, right. 99% of these things turn into, uh, videos getting passed around, right. And ruining people's lives on both sides. Cause it's not just the young woman who's embarrassed. It's also a young man later on. That's embarrassed. Cause there's a video of him engaging in something that's like, it's totally, it's, it's totally, you know, immoral, demoralizing everything. And they wish they hadn't done it. And, and then that makes it harder to date and it makes it harder to get closer to a marriage or it makes it harder to forgive yourself for the type of person you become. And, And that's really what takes you down roads that are really negative and nasty. And so, you know, the thing that bothers me, and sorry, I'll just finish on this, is like the thing that bothers me about this situation is that I think people get off on the wrong stop on this thing, which is like the first stop is the anger, animosity, I'm with her type, like, you know, stand with the young woman who was clearly taken advantage of or whatever, right? And that may be the outcome of this, right? And that's a piece of this. But the bigger picture element of this that's completely ignored, that never gets discussed, that the media for sure never discusses, is like, this is these are all things that that society should be fixing like trying to fix yeah yeah practically and we're and we're right we're not like in fact people are saying like oh like there's a there's a whole element of this of people responding to this be like well it would have been okay if She would have been like, this is okay on OnlyFans. It just wouldn't be. 00:59:29 Speaker 6: I want to flag this. We got a donation message from Zuzu's Petals. None of this is okay. None of this behavior is okay in any kind of context. I think Zuzu's Petals, she donated. Thank you, Zuzu. And she asked, are you even allowed to say what appendage this girl snorted ketamine on? I think the question kind of answers itself what that was. And then also, did this happen because all these people mistook porn for reality? I think that's part of it. Everyone's very detached from actual normal relationships. Everything is mediated through fake things, which is TV. All those TV shows, notably, I think we didn't talk about, television got a lot more graphic and kind of porny in the last 25 years compared to anything that came before due to HBO subscription prestige channels. They would all have a lot of sex and nudity in them. And then actual pornography is everywhere now. And I think this is frying people's brains. It's making them think, oh, this could be a fun thing to try. And they're all getting one shot by this because actually this stuff is depraved. It messes you up for life. Mikey, we haven't heard from you. What do you make of this? You're also younger. You're someone who's actually married, has a normal family life. We thankfully have a lot of people like that in the Turning Point world. But I feel what's happening to a lot of people is they've been fed this line of basically feminism, like anything is good as long as you consent to it. And there's no dangers to this. And people are getting absolutely cooked when they see the, when they encounter the actual consequences of this. 01:01:03 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:01:03 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, hookup culture and like having sex just normally kind of draws this line in the sand where rape is bad. Like you don't cross that line, but then secular culture, when it views this like sexual culture as you know, it becomes more sexy the closer you get to the line. But with like Christian moral behavior, like Christians never define human behavior as how close can you get to the line. We have like the guardrails of where sex should be. It should be in the confines of marriage. It should be loving your partner, respecting them. But in this case, it's everything that's the opposite of that. It's how close can you get to the line. I mean, The girl in this case, you know, it's cited that she snorted ketamine off of one of the guy's genitalia. And involved in this case is marijuana, ketamine, alcohol, multiple sexual partners. It's everything that's like, how close can I get to the line without actually crossing the line? And in a Christian society, none of that is acceptable. We would never be in a situation like this because we. 01:02:15 Speaker 4: We ask ourselves the wrong question. You know, oftentimes in situations like this, the question is, was there consent? And, like, that is an important question. 01:02:24 Speaker 2: It's a moral one. 01:02:25 Speaker 4: It's a legal question. But the Christian question, it's, you know, was there love? Is there self-control? Am I treating my partner, you know, with respect? And that's why it's important in the confines of marriage. And, like, there's the legal side of this where, you know, there's going to be evidence and hearings and a jury. But none of this would have happened if these young people were living in a moral and Christian society that asked itself not the wrong questions, but the right questions, and didn't put themselves in really dirty positions to begin with. It's a difficult case, and it's also a disgusting case. And I'm sad that we're even having this conversation as a culture. 01:03:05 Speaker 6: To me, this is all— it' s a great exhibit for Chesterton's fence. That's the idea that before you tear down a tradition, a norm, You have to ask why was that created? And we had this norm built up. It took centuries, millennia to build up that norm of Christian approach to relationships, dating, marriage, sexuality. And then in a matter of basically a couple decades, people said, oh, that must have just been done to control people. And there's no reason to do any of that stuff. Get rid of all of it. And now we're just seeing this absolute cascade of psychological destruction. And it kind of makes me angry that a lot of people They're going to throw the school, the police, the prosecutors, these boys who made bad decisions. I think it's like pretty gross what they did, but they're going to try to pulverize them a lot more. Like they, I don't think they're criminals basically. And it's like, they're basically going to turn them into scapegoats for a giant society wide lie that they feel the need to perpetuate. I want to play this clip because it does intrigue me. This is a Camille. Is it Paglia? 01:04:11 Speaker 3: Paglia? 01:04:12 Speaker 6: I can never remember if you pronounce the G in that one, but, I think it's Paglia. Paglia, like arch-feminist, left-wing feminist theorist. But she had a pretty interesting response to this that I kind of want to play. Let's do clip nine. 01:04:25 Speaker 12: You don't think there's a problem with sexual assault? Because a lot of women are coming forward now. 01:04:30 Speaker 8: In cases of real rape, of course you'll be prosecuted. Of course real rape is a crime. But this is not real rape. We've been arguing about dating encounters with miscommunications now for decades. It's absolutely infantilizing to women. It must stop. 01:04:46 Speaker 12: But you know that a lot of women are afraid of sexual assault or have been sexually assaulted. Should they not be able to go and drink and play beer pong and get drunk like the guys do? 01:04:57 Speaker 11: They live in fear. 01:04:58 Speaker 8: If you go to a fraternity house party with chaos going on in the living room area, and a young man says to you, would you like to go up to my room? I'm sorry. You are consenting to sex. He is right to think you have consented. To go up there and change your mind and so on. It's not right, of course, for anyone to impose themselves sexually on another person. 01:05:22 Speaker 3: Naturally. 01:05:23 Speaker 8: But women must realize they are now free. The sexual revolution has been won. Why are we coddling young women to say, go on being children, because mommy and daddy will be there to pick up the pieces for you afterward? We're going to go on like this, making endless excuses for middle-class girls, confused, unsure of what they want. Perhaps the sexual revolution should be reversed, because what we're showing is that perhaps co-education is a bad idea. Maybe today's young women are not prepared for co-education. 01:05:57 Speaker 6: I liked that end bit. Co-education was a mistake. Bring it back. 01:06:01 Speaker 3: Let's go. 01:06:02 Speaker 6: Bring back male schools. 01:06:03 Speaker 3: Let's go. 01:06:03 Speaker 6: Female schools. Bring it all back. We've got to bring it back, guys. 01:06:09 Speaker 7: Can I bring up my favorite all-time Camille Paglia tweet or saying since we're in here? 01:06:17 Speaker 3: She was talking about. 01:06:19 Speaker 7: Serial killers, and she said, why are there no female Jack the Ripper's? 01:06:26 Speaker 3: Because the same reason that there's no female Mozart's. 01:06:30 Speaker 2: Whoa. 01:06:32 Speaker 3: Wow. Oh, man. 01:06:35 Speaker 6: She's a Mozart of words, though. I will give her that. She's a really talented person. 01:06:39 Speaker 3: She's absolutely phenomenal. By the way, Jack the Ripper, most likely Polish. Just saying. 01:06:43 Speaker 6: Oh, okay. Wait, are you bragging about that one? A Polish guy named Jack? 01:06:50 Speaker 7: I have this theory... And I'm not really sure if it's true or not. It might be a thought crime. But I have this theory that for some reason we Poles have like a higher preponderance of others of serial killers. 01:07:00 Speaker 3: And I've been trying to figure out why that is. 01:07:02 Speaker 6: Boredom. 01:07:03 Speaker 2: And also and also it's not random that like Wisconsin is home to like the highest amount of serial killers and they're all Polish people. So are they? 01:07:13 Speaker 3: There was also a Polish guy that shot McKinnon. 01:07:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, Wisconsin has one of the highest. 01:07:17 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I only know the one guy, the guy that they based the Silence of the Lambs on. That guy wasn't Polish. 01:07:22 Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're Polish. I'm just saying Wisconsin is the highest density of American Poles. Fair enough. Wisconsin is way up there. 01:07:29 Speaker 3: Fair enough. Well, the Chicagoland, too, though. 01:07:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the whole Chicagoland area. There's a lot. The highest per capita number of serial killers is Wisconsin. 01:07:40 Speaker 7: If you look at Poland in the communist era, when it was the People's Republic of Poland, there was a pretty high number of serial killers. 01:07:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, man. 01:07:53 Speaker 3: Whatever. 01:07:54 Speaker 6: That's morbid. Okay, the point is, guys, we need to undo co-education. We need to undo. I don't know what we need to do. But I think it's just a strong point that they're going to have this. It's ridiculous that we're going to have this gigantic freakout, this gigantic tizzy over this event at Cornell. And really, it's just screaming at us in our face that, The sexual revolution was a mistake that people actually deep down, they don't even want this. I think that's actually the most interesting thing about this entire gross story. If you read the details, which I, I don't really recommend unless you have the stomach for it because a lot of it is very gross, but like the entire thing is like not even like arousing. It actually is like, it's, it's off putting and gross. And that's what stands out to me about this, that there's actually no romance involved in this. No real desire involved. It's people robotically acting out, as Zuzu said, this like porn inflected view of reality. It's cooking people's brains. It's making them miserable. It's creating all these casualties. 01:08:57 Speaker 2: And that goes back to like what I was saying was that. you know you're engaging in this because you're not when you're not interested in trying to seek like actual really and again I'm not blaming this situation totally on this I'm just saying in general society when you have young men and young women who have zero interest whatsoever and actually being in a relationship for years, if not decades, or maybe ever, you engage in more of this activity, right? 01:09:23 Speaker 6: So what you're saying, we can take it all back to the beginning. People are cooked because they haven't formed relationships and they've spent too much time watching TV. 01:09:32 Speaker 2: If you're not trying to, if you're not seeking after those types of activities, like the good activities, you're going to fall, you're going to fall prey to the bad ones, right? You're going to try to reenact the things that you consume. To your point, which is a highly pornographic society. We've said this many times on this show. We've talked about this. It is shocking what percentage of American young females are on OnlyFans. It is shocking the percentage of young women who engage in even just clickbaity type Instagram content. They're just seeking attention and not really syncing relationships. Again, you can only do so much with the 24 hours that you have every day. And if you're spending all of your time for years getting paid now, and I actually think, I totally think that it's one of the worst things that could ever happen to society is the monetization on social media. It's very democratizing and people have lauded it because they're like, this is great. You can be a small business owner. Yeah, well, your small business ownership now in America, predominantly with young women, is getting clicks for posting bikini pics. That is an absolutely terrible situation that's happened for young Americans. And it's going to cause further delays in building families, which means further delays in maturation, which means that America is going to get sicker mentally and physically, like as a society, like it just, it is like, and, and this type of activity, again, if you're in the mindset, it's like, oh, well, I'm basically just like a, a click, you know, person. I'm not worried about getting married for a decade. I might dabble in this activity. That's going to be like, it's going to get, you know, whatever, 10 years from now, no one's going to care. I think, I think, well, 10 years from now, you should probably already have two kids in a you know, a long-term career and focused on like where your life's going to go. And like, that's just not where young Americans brains are at, unfortunately, as an average right now. 01:11:39 Speaker 7: I think, I mean, I'll, I'll just, I'll just throw it out there. Like, you know how to solve this stuff. I've been saying it for eight years now, be a rebel, start a family, right? Just, just go into this with the basic Christian view of marriage and say, this is what I'm married. I'm, I'm dating for a date to marry. Obviously, And you're looking for a partner for the rest of your life. And start those young. Start those young because the younger you have kids, shout out to Mikey McCoy on that one, the more time you get to spend with them. 01:12:13 Speaker 3: It's as simple as that. 01:12:15 Speaker 2: Yep. Being a young dad's fun. Being a dad at all is fun. And that's like, again, it's best. I mean, there's nothing more gratifying and I'm more grateful for. It's like I think about this all the time. especially as a dad that's raising a, uh, I have a teenager now where it's like, I'm so glad that my teenager, when he's busy doing things that are positive, right? Like he has a girlfriend right now. Like he's doing positive things that versus negative things. And if you have like, if you're idle, whether they say about idle hands, you know, actually, uh, lead to really bad things. It's the same thing for adults. If you're not, if you, if you're not like looking after kids and are busy yourself with, you know, your, your kids, your activities and doing these, like you can easily slip into and fall into, you know, bad habits, bad activities and things that just aren't going to make your life better. And so that starts at the moment you turn 18 and you get out of the house and it can continue till the day that you, that you leave this earth at an old age. And we've seen stories of all of the above. You know, I, we have, I have friends that have had family members that have fallen prey. Cause again, How many times have we seen where the kids leave the house or something and they end up in severe alcoholism or whatever, right? Like drug addictions at an old age, a very old age. Again, idle hands. You have nothing going on and it's like all of a sudden you can slip into these things. Any person can fall prey to it. All righty. 01:13:47 Speaker 3: Before we wrap. 01:13:49 Speaker 6: I think we basically approached the end point. I think the main takeaway here is Yeah, go out, start a family, which means watch less TV, actually, even though we just spent 45 minutes discussing it. No, no, no. 01:14:01 Speaker 3: Find someone you can watch TV with, right? That's a cool part of being in a relationship. Find someone, you know. 01:14:08 Speaker 2: Jack's right. 01:14:09 Speaker 3: Who's a TV watcher. 01:14:10 Speaker 2: Base take. 01:14:12 Speaker 3: Absolutely. But before we go, I did want to throw this up, guys. It was real quick. 01:14:17 Speaker 7: I did get to spend a little time with our favorite vice president, yesterday aboard Air Force Two. And in fact, I got him to comment on something that was a huge topic here on Thought Crime a couple of weeks ago. 01:14:32 Speaker 3: Guys, play clip 14. 01:14:34 Speaker 13: Soaring jobs, importing cheap foreign labor. 01:14:37 Speaker 2: I just think you have to level with people that if. 01:14:39 Speaker 13: You're trying to undo 40 years of bad policy, of globalization, of shipping American jobs overseas, it's going to take a little bit of time to fix that. 01:14:47 Speaker 2: Now, do I think we've made incredible progress? 01:14:50 Speaker 6: Absolutely. 01:14:51 Speaker 13: But I think we just have to be honest with people. Look, we're trying to fix what was broken over 40 years. Everything was not going to be fixed in 18 months. But you can't ignore people's concerns. 01:15:00 Speaker 2: And so You know, on the one hand, you. 01:15:02 Speaker 13: Have the president talking about all the great building that's happening. You have me sort of acknowledging that it's going to take a long time to rebuild the American middle class. 01:15:11 Speaker 2: And on the other hand, you have a few tone deaf. 01:15:13 Speaker 13: Republicans who say, shut up if you're pissed off about a twenty two dollar burrito. Well, my response to those people is no. Listen to people who are upset with the state of the economy. If we don't listen to people, we will turn into the very thing that we hate, the very thing that we ran against, the very thing. 01:15:30 Speaker 6: Man, you're dropping that without Andrew around. No Andrew around to react. 01:15:34 Speaker 3: To the burrito. 01:15:35 Speaker 2: That was a sick shot too. 01:15:37 Speaker 4: The way the window, like you're just, it's so epic, bro. 01:15:41 Speaker 2: It's great. 01:15:41 Speaker 3: Isn't it cool? 01:15:42 Speaker 7: And we actually, we didn't play it in that clip, but we actually land in the interview. So like the plane actually lands at Andrew's. So like we're talking and he goes, he goes, oh yeah, we're about to land. 01:15:55 Speaker 3: So tell your camera guy to like brace. 01:15:57 Speaker 7: And like his staff just grabs Andrew our camera guy for Rav, and he's like, they're holding on to him, and we just sort of hit, and it's like, boom! 01:16:06 Speaker 3: And he just keeps talking. 01:16:07 Speaker 7: I'm like, I don't know if that's ever happened in an interview before. 01:16:11 Speaker 3: But it was just, it was cool. 01:16:12 Speaker 2: Man. 01:16:14 Speaker 6: And when you landed, did you go and get a $ 23 burrito? 01:16:18 Speaker 3: We split it, actually. Times are tough. 01:16:20 Speaker 2: Oh, man. Even for the vice president. 01:16:23 Speaker 6: All right, Jack, take us home. 01:16:24 Speaker 2: You know, there are ways to get cheaper burritos, just so everybody's aware, so. Support your local hole in the wall. 01:16:34 Speaker 7: Actually, I'll save this as a thought crime for maybe next week, but I'm getting sick of those people who buy a 3D printer and make absolute 3D printed slop and call themselves a small business. 01:16:45 Speaker 3: I'm not supporting you. It's not good. 01:16:48 Speaker 7: 3D printed slop is not supporting local businesses, and I'm sick of it. Someone had to say it. Someone had to say it. It's gone too far. 01:16:56 Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, on that note, as always... Go out there, commit more, thought crime. 01:17:05 Speaker 4: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.