Though Thoughtcrime continues, it will never be the same as it was while Charlie Kirk was still with us. Today, one day before the anniversary of his death, the Thoughtcrime team remembers him at his best, by revisiting his all-time greatest moments, from the time he was caught wearing earplugs at a football game, to his repeated clashes with Tyler over Lord of the Rings, to the showdown over just what, exactly, a "chambermaid" is.
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Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA college chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. Here I am.
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Speaker 2: Lord, use me.
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Speaker 3: It is once again Thought Crime Thursday. For the last year, we've been Continuing thought crime and continuing out the mission in as many ways as we possibly could.
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Speaker 4: While we've been down a man.
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Speaker 3: And while we've been down the best man I think any of us have ever worked with, certainly. And when we found out, looking ahead, that it was going to be a Thursday that 9-10 fell on, we said.
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Speaker 3: What's the best way to commemorate that, commemorate the day, but also, you know, remember the fact that this was a day one year ago that we lost Charlie and team sat down and came together and actually put together a really, really special episode for all of you guys. And I hope that people will share this because This is some of our favorite moments with Charlie for all the times that we hosted Thought Crime with him, all the way back to, I think, some of the very first episodes, some of the very first Thought Crimes that we ever got into here on the program. You know, I know we had talked about doing a show like this for a while, and it eventually came to be that we would have a show where we just sort of, got into all the stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else during the week. And, and it took off and became a, uh, you know, a really big popular hit and, you know, probably the biggest show that we do all week, every week. And never once thought that we wouldn't even make it to a hundred episodes without, without Charlie. And to me, and I think for all of us, um, this is absolutely the best thing we could do today.
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Speaker 5: Well, this is going to be a mashup of some of the funniest, some of the most lighthearted, some of the most famous clips of Doc Crime. There are some that we all star in, but this is going to be an ode to Charlie. So his best moments. I have to say, I mean, we all have favorite moments from Doc Crime.
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Speaker 2: But you reminded me of this.
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Speaker 1: Chambermaid.
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Speaker 4: Chambermaid.
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Speaker 2: I'm very excited.
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Speaker 3: Chambermaid.
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Speaker 4: South Park Reaction.
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Speaker 2: South Park Reaction.
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Speaker 6: Just a lot of Lord of the Rings talk.
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Speaker 2: Lots of Lord of the Rings.
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Speaker 4: The Lord of the Rings, the thing is. Wait, the earplugs. Remember the earplugs with Don Jr.
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Speaker 2: What's that, Jack?
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Speaker 3: The earplugs controversy when Don Jr.
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Speaker 4: Was on the show. The photoshopped earplugs.
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Speaker 6: I hope Taylor Swift makes it in here.
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Speaker 4: I haven't seen the final.
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Speaker 7: We need to have.
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Speaker 7: Did we ever have the final confrontation with Jack not having all the studs on his jacket?
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Speaker 4: Yes. At the gala? We did talk about that.
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Speaker 2: I didn't have any studs either.
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Speaker 4: Or was it you? It was like none of you had them except Charlie. He didn't have the studs. Jack was chopping his in.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, it was Tuxedo Gate.
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Speaker 6: Andrew and Charlie's most famous clip ever.
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Speaker 2: Black Pilots.
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Speaker 4: There's so much good stuff here.
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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? I never heard of that.
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Speaker 4: There's so much good stuff here that took over the.
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Speaker 5: Internet who knew who knew when we came up with this show concept you know the true story is charlie and i were wanting to do a panel show like uh and then it was blake bringing blake on that was the impetus because blake had been election night blake had been canceled i i have committed many a thought crime so blake had been canceled for committing thought crimes and so we wanted a place where where we could like bring Blake back into the world, you know?
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Speaker 2: And, uh, it was awesome.
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Speaker 3: There's so many cool clips and, and my, my favorite personal one, uh, favorite thought crime episode will always be the Thanksgiving one will always be that.
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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, Charlie with his cranberry.
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Speaker 7: The only acceptable way to have cranberry is the disgusting tin, and you just have the gelatinous cylinder.
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Speaker 2: Upon the plate. He did the banana peel one on Thought Crime 2, though, right? He did.
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Speaker 4: I hope they have that one. Yes, we did the face.
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Speaker 5: Actually, and I will say, Jack, one of my favorite moments from Thought Crime actually was more recently with you overtly pagan.
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Speaker 2: So I just want to give you an honorable mention.
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Speaker 8: Overtly pagan?
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Us and Lord of the Rings just have quite the relationship it's one of those things but anyways everybody please enjoy this special tribute to our dear friend that his presence on this show I hope you guys feel every week because we feel it when we do the show and he had a lot of great moments and this is our ode to Charlie enjoy.
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Speaker 1: So everybody welcome to this new show that we're doing familiar set but a different vibe. Jack and I are going to have thought crime conversations and we have some amazing stuff. Somebody asked me, they said, Charlie, how do you best describe thought crimes? I said, it's basically a group chat that became a podcast.
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Speaker 5: Why do liberal white women believe that they must sustain the liberal agenda when they aren't the victim?
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Speaker 1: Oh, white guilt. Yeah. I mean, white liberal women are largely, you know, devoid of purpose. They don't have husbands who satisfy them. And so they look for other purpose. And whether it be Xanax, Valium, Wine, or BLM, they have to find something to fill that void. I don't like Taylor Swift at all.
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Speaker 4: Most guys do. Well, isn't that the real topic, right?
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Speaker 1: But that's kind of the real topic. And I feel as if she's being forced upon our culture, like it's this Taylor Swift colonizing effort.
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Speaker 4: It takes two to be forced on, though, sort of.
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Speaker 1: Hold on. No, no, no, no. I'll prove it. So then, Blake, don't even get me started. You're going to be like, don't watch the NFL.
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Speaker 2: Forget it.
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Speaker 1: Okay? I'm going to preempt your argument. I am a Chicago Bears fan. Tyler knows this.
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Speaker 4: That's rough.
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Speaker 1: They are awful. They are awful this year. Justin Fields is not good.
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Speaker 4: They are awful.
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Speaker 1: They need new ownership. They need a new quarterback, new coach. So, I mean, I watch the Bears. It's a habit I have my whole life. So I'm watching the Bears-Chiefs game, and all of a sudden the announcers, like these 75-year-old men, are like swooning over Taylor Swift.
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Speaker 4: Why?
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Speaker 1: Because the ratings of the game, like, went through the roof. Like, people were buying, like, Sunday NFL ticket.
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Speaker 6: I got dragged to one Taylor Swift concert. I will never go back. I was in the very back.
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Speaker 4: It was awful. It was all women and gays.
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Speaker 9: That was it.
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Speaker 4: And I was like, I want to be dead right now. I want to be dead. I don't want to do this.
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Speaker 6: I've been to other concerts with attractive.
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Speaker 4: Females, like Ariana Grande. I've been to Coachella Stadium.
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Speaker 1: Ariana Grande.
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Speaker 4: Very impressive. I walked away from that. I went to Coachella one year.
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Speaker 6: Ariana Grande got up, had a really great time with a DJ.
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Speaker 4: It was fun. Taylor Swift was a fun. It was miserable.
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Speaker 1: Because most of her fans are miserable. I don't understand this. Here's Taylor Swift who, you know, she was endorsing Joe Biden, but she did it with these like disgusting Walmart cookies.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: Back in 2020, as if I mean, and by the way, is this some sort of thing like I should be in the kitchen making cookies for you? Is that what you're trying to tell us, Taylor Swift? Is that like your rightful place is to make cookies or something? It's a very weird thing.
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Speaker 4: She didn't make those. I think it's reading a bit much into that.
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Speaker 1: Who does that? It's very strange.
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Speaker 7: If you're going to put like complicated frosting designs on cookies, they always end up looking like kind of crap.
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Speaker 1: Am I supposed to believe she actually made those?
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Speaker 8: I don't.
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Speaker 1: Think so yeah i think this whole thing is an op i don't think a lot of people are asking that question she definitely ordered them she wanted to endorse joe biden so she got joe biden cookies i don't think it matters whether she made them it's not cute it's not interesting i don't find anything she does to be interesting but.
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Speaker 4: That's the whole she's an op she's.
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Speaker 1: A created op of the mockingbird.
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Speaker 7: What i would say is we talk about her all the time so we clearly do find her interesting in some.
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Speaker 1: No no it's forced on us that's not true i would never talk about her If this wasn't force fed by the masters of the universe, time magazine and force. Travis Kelsey. Oh yeah.
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Speaker 4: Hold on.
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Speaker 1: You cannot watch an NFL game. Travis Kelsey for state farm, Travis Kelsey for Pfizer, Travis Kelsey for some random car insurance thing. Travis. It's like what company doesn't have Travis Kelsey. I mean, I'm trying to watch a dang football game. And it's Travis Kelsey for Uber Eats and Travis Kelsey for Subway. And oh, by the way, Travis Kelsey from my auto and Travis Kelsey. It's like, is there is I'm telling you, that doesn't happen by mistake. It's the same thing with Jennifer Lawrence. And they find people that they can use for cultural type influence. And Taylor Swift is perfect. She's a liberal, but she doesn't overplay it in recent years. She sells. She's the most popular. No one doubts that she's popular. Of course, normal. Of course, she's popular. And she also she's that demo that they want to dominate, which is upper middle class, white girl, suburban America. That's their pathway to world domination. And she controls that demo. Of course, we acknowledge she controls it. I mean, we don't live on Neptune. But this whole Travis Kelsey thing is so staged, right, Jack? I mean, you watch an NFL football game. I remember Erica walks in. She says, what commercial is he not in? Leans, levies, wage garnishments, bank account seizures. Those aren't just words.
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Speaker 1: I hope they have a wonderful marriage. I hope Travis Kelsey is the MVP of the league. They win a Super Bowl and that they have a Super Bowl baby. I hope that they have lots of children. It'll make them happier. I have learned that anything I say about Taylor Swift is the easiest way for me to get publicity.
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Speaker 4: It's amazing.
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Speaker 1: I don't even try, by the way. It's like international news. People are texting me from high school and they're, I haven't heard from these people in years. All I said is that Taylor Swift should submit to her husband, which is Overabundantly biblical. Apparently, I'm starting a race war in the WNBA.
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Speaker 4: You've done it again. You've done it again, Charlie.
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Speaker 1: I have a tendency to start race wars.
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Speaker 7: There is this placid world where there is the Women's National Basketball Association.
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Speaker 1: Of course, a bunch of women always get along.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, women are known for getting along. They live in harmony with one another. They definitely never have beefs or arguments or disputes or rivalries.
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Speaker 1: Only Charlie Kirk would start.
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Speaker 7: Only you could do it. WNBA was great. I'm sure all 10 people at their games... We're having a blast.
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Speaker 4: Put it up. Do we have it? There we go.
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Speaker 1: If we zoom in here, I don't know.
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Speaker 4: If they can zoom it in.
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Speaker 1: Context matters here, guys.
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Speaker 4: No context shall be allowed.
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Speaker 7: He is at an Oregon Ducks game, and if you zoom in there, if you gaze at what would be his left ear at the right end of the photo, he has an ear plug within his ear to conceal himself from the true authentic.
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Speaker 1: Sounds of the game. I have a very simple question for Don. Do you ever wear ear protection when you shoot?
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Speaker 4: When I shoot, yes.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, it's the same decibel.
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Speaker 10: You have to do it when you shoot.
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Speaker 4: You're not shooting. Oh, the stadium is too loud.
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Speaker 1: It's 127 decibels.
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Speaker 10: I have like I have taken like my daughter to like one of these concerts and we're sitting for a row at a concert or something where it's just so loud. I'm like, and I hate the music.
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Speaker 8: I will.
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Speaker 1: I have done that.
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Speaker 10: But at a football game, it was a hundred.
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Speaker 4: It was Charlie.
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Speaker 1: This is not a sign.
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Speaker 4: Are you on here?
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Speaker 10: I think Charlie just went communist on us.
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Speaker 6: I'm a little worried.
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Speaker 1: This is not a normal stadium, guys.
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Speaker 4: Charlie, are you a Democrat? Are you?
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Speaker 10: Have you been eating a lot of soy? There's some things you'd rather just lose your hearing for. It's like, it's worth it. You gotta eat the man card.
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Speaker 4: It's like, it's loud. It's like a gunshot.
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Speaker 1: It's 127 decibels, which is louder than a music concert. It's not a normal stadium.
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Speaker 7: I'm a producer on Charlie's radio show, and I learned that Charlie was going to Greenland when he sent us the photo of him in Greenland, and I believe that's when... Andrew learned about it. I believe that's when everyone learned about it. So Charlie just went and he just absconded on us.
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Speaker 1: To my credit, though, I was sworn to secrecy. I could have leaked it and all that. It drives me nuts when people do that. So you guys understand you got to take that stuff seriously. So it is objectively one of the most beautiful places I've ever been. It reminds me of like deep interior Alaska, like untouched, wild, where you come in contact with God's creation with no filter, a place where there is a town and then there's no connection to modernity from that point forward. I mean, there's polar bears that just walk through downtown, which is the largest town in Greenland. That is a great word for it. So just kind of some backstory. Don Jr. called me up and he said, hey, do you want to pop on Trump Force One? fly with me to Greenland. I'm like, yeah, I'll do that. So we took off at 2 a.m. local standard time in Palm Beach. I did one of the things I hate most, which is to fly a red-eye flight. Pretty easy to fly a red-eye flight on Trump Force One, might I add those. So landed in Greenland as the sun was rising at 11 a.m. local time. Got off the plane. We were greeted by hundreds of people in MAGA hats and We went to some of their sacred sites. We went to the top of this hill and took those pictures as the sun was rising. We had an amazing meal with a bunch of local Greenlanders. We went to the local cultural museum and ended the day at one of their top kind of bar hangout, cheers, if you will, restaurants. They love America. The power of American culture, MAGA is a worldwide movement. It is transcending borders, largely thanks to social media. So it was a wonderful time in nuke. That is how you say it, not nuke. It is nuke and honored to have been included in something that very well might have made history.
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Speaker 7: Trump's going to win the nomination. Who's he going to pick as the vice presidential pick? Turns out there's been a lot of discussion of this lately. The odds are shifting rapidly.
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Speaker 1: I'm super curious about that. Then I'll tell you about my conversation with Trump.
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Speaker 4: Oh, that's amazing.
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Speaker 7: So, the Betfair favorite right now, and this caught me really off guard looking it up just now. Currently the favorite on Betfair, which is a British betting site. You can bet on this thing in the UK. You're blocked if you try to visit in the US. But they have the favorite right now is Kristi Noem. 5-1, so still not strong odds.
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Speaker 1: Who's second?
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Speaker 7: Second place is Vivek. And then Elise Stefanik. And then the next three, this is another strange one.
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Speaker 5: Um.
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Speaker 7: Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, Ben Carson.
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Speaker 4: And then in seventh place, Tulsi Gabbard. So top seven.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say any like name details, but the president has not made up his mind and very much open to a lot of different ideas. And we had a real robust conversation about it. And he wants to win. And he's getting I'll tell you right now, there are. Here's what I can tell you. He is being actively lobbied by like five or six different camps on this right now. And the name I think that we should really push forward to be in the mix as a finalist is J.D.
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Speaker 8: Vance.
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Speaker 1: I think J.D. Vance is a finalist because he's a very thoughtful communicator of the America First agenda. He's from a younger demo. He's in his 30s still.
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Speaker 4: I have a plan. The perfect plan. Yes.
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Speaker 1: Is it the Ohio switcheroo?
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Speaker 4: The Ohio switcheroo.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 6: You get JD in as SVP, and then you force DeWine to put in the vague as senator.
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Speaker 1: We have Tyler Boyer with his hat that was supposed to be at America Fest.
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Speaker 6: It's our precinct sheriff hat. And you're not a precinct sheriff of your precinct unless you.
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Speaker 4: Have this hat. So, Charlie, here's your hat.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I got to wear one.
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Speaker 4: No, you don't have to wear it. And Blake, I got one for you guys too. Blake, I think.
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Speaker 1: Your vitamin D level is negative now, Blake.
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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, basically.
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Speaker 1: We're in the Dakotas. We're called the Sunshine State. I think you have negative five vitamin D level. It's actually, you blended into the wall. Congrats. Hey, guys, look.
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Speaker 4: I delivered.
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Speaker 11: Hey!
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Speaker 2: There it is.
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Speaker 5: Finally.
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Speaker 1: I had to go into the archives.
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Speaker 3: Does Charlie have like Snapchat filters on right now?
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Everybody point to the hat. We have to get one screen grab of this. Blake, you got to do it.
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Speaker 1: Having Blake with the MAGA hat makes my year because it's a symbol. And, Andrew, I want to talk about this. I am now going to wear this everywhere I go. Every single one of you, you need to now get one of these, donate at DonaldJTrump.com, and you need to go into the streets and to show this regime no.
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Speaker 4: F you, actually.
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Speaker 1: We're not going to put up with this. We are not going to tolerate your nonsense or your BS. We will not put up with this color revolution. There was a nonstop fight from donors, influencers, elected officials of who actually gets in the rotunda. Now, this is very complicated because the presidential inauguration. Committee, otherwise known as J-SIC, does not control all the tickets. It is a joint committee between the Senate, the House, and the incoming administration. So, as soon as you decide to go in the rotunda, you are 100% in Article I land, within the House and the Senate. So, therefore... If you look at the picture, before you even get to some of Trump's friends outside of the dais, and I'll get to the dais in a second, it's all senators.
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Speaker 5: So the senators hogged all of the tickets up front. You're in controlled territory there. They control that land.
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Speaker 1: So to just put this in perspective, there were about 680 seats in the rotunda. About 400 of them were for Congress. So there was only 230 tickets allocated for Congress. Trump and his team, family, and even some select donors. So a huge war over actually who gets ticketing. There was an overflow room where people like Theo Vaughn were and Logan Paul and Megyn Kelly and all the governors. All the governors were in the overflow room, right? So super honored and thank you to Susie and thank you to everyone who worked so hard on this for approving not just myself but also Erica.
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Speaker 8: Big, big lift.
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Speaker 1: And that's... big deal, right?
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Speaker 2: Uh, it was a huge honor.
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Speaker 1: I got attacked for having good seats, but it wasn't just me. It was also Erica and they were really sweet to include her because all the other congressional spouses, this is what made them really mad. All the congressional spouses were in the overflow room. So the congressional spouses were in the overflow room and Erica got in, uh, and she deserves it, uh, because we were all part of this kind of historic and triumphant moment. And it was just larger than life, breathtaking. And, uh, Yeah, that seat gate.
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Speaker 7: This is the crew. This is the crew at the Mar-a-Lago Gala. We've got Tyler there. We have Jack there. We have Charlie there. I was unable to attend.
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Speaker 1: It's okay.
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Speaker 4: But we've got this image here.
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Speaker 7: And Daisy saw something a little unusual about it. She's like, something's off about that. And then she realized, oh, wait, you know, someone sent me a video from it.
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Speaker 4: And it didn't look the same. So she looked around.
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Speaker 7: Reveal image 108. So what we have here, the Turning Point Gala is a black tie event.
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Speaker 4: That means wear a black tie, wear a tux.
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Speaker 7: And what we have discovered, someone, we do not know who, but it was known that Tyler Boyer and Jack Posobiec did not follow the dress code for.
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Speaker 4: The Turning Point Gala. Time out.
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Speaker 1: First of all, yeah, because that's the golden age.
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Speaker 4: That's a Vera Wang tux. That is the golden age right there.
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Speaker 2: He would rave about these courses all the time.
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Speaker 1: Now, no coincidence, 19% of their flights are never on time.
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Speaker 2: Correlation without causation.
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Speaker 4: They have to get ready.
00:24:39
Speaker 2: Yes. It's a, it's a, it's going to riff on that. I can't. So that here's, here's what's crazy.
00:24:47
Speaker 5: Going from 19% to 50, 50, still laughing at himself, going from 19% to 50, 50, 50 in one year that he said, our class in 2023 in one year is actually impossible.
00:25:02
Speaker 2: And I think Blake, you made this point is, are there even enough, Women.
00:25:06
Speaker 5: Or minority potential pilots out there that want to be a pilot, where are they going to find these people?
00:25:12
Speaker 4: It's the funny thing because.
00:25:13
Speaker 1: They want– Where's the supply going to come from?
00:25:15
Speaker 7: There's a diversity push in literally every industry in America.
00:25:19
Speaker 1: I think this is the red pill of the red pill. Every issue where anyone who's remotely normie in my orbit goes 10 out of 10, it's the flight one. I have to be honest.
00:25:30
Speaker 4: Or like surgeons.
00:25:32
Speaker 1: Surgeon and flight are the top two where it's like, they, no one really cares when it's HR managers. No one cared when it was, you know, just kind of paper shufflers or even engineers. But now when it's like, wait, wait, hold on a second. You're going to remove my appendix and you're a black lesbian.
00:25:49
Speaker 2: Well, you, you bring these.
00:25:50
Speaker 4: Did you have to go through the same? I say this all the time.
00:25:54
Speaker 3: When I get on an airplane, you know, I want my, got my pilot to be like, Hi, this is Chad. Maybe like a little bit of a southern accent. Chad Buckworth here.
00:26:04
Speaker 1: This is my 31,000th hour. I'm kind of bored, honestly. I could do this in my sleep. I want just like cookie cutter. Yeah, this is so easy to me. I don't want LaQuisha James.
00:26:22
Speaker 4: They have that like pilot voice.
00:26:24
Speaker 1: And she's just like, hi, ladies and gentlemen. Pray for me.
00:26:29
Speaker 7: And the truth is, it's just this is a creation that the left wanted.
00:26:34
Speaker 1: And they think you can't say anything about it because they'll call you a racist. And this is where we really have to take the gloves off and say your name calling will not get in the way. of people's safety at 35,000 feet.
00:26:47
Speaker 7: They're like, it's offensive to call someone a diversity hire. You guys are the ones who legally require diversity hires. You are the ones who say we need to hire people based on skin color.
00:26:56
Speaker 1: We want excellence.
00:26:57
Speaker 2: Like screw you weird white women.
00:26:58
Speaker 4: A little pushback would have been a relief.
00:27:01
Speaker 2: You just assumed the premise was accurate.
00:27:03
Speaker 1: And as if it's like perfectly fine, like, yes, we need the most diverse flight crew ever.
00:27:07
Speaker 5: I think that's what's so troubling is in that clip, He doesn't acknowledge that there is structural and cultural reasons for this disparity. And so you're sitting here as like a potential victim in the back of the plane going like.
00:27:19
Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh.
00:27:20
Speaker 5: He's just going to force this through, and he doesn't seem to care about the fact that some people can't fly so good.
00:27:26
Speaker 1: If Delta wanted to just dominate, they could do an ad and be like, Delta Airlines, excellence is how we hire our pilots, and you'll be safe. I'm telling you, they would have 20% more ticket sales.
00:27:37
Speaker 2: You know they'd get boycotted, too, by the pilot.
00:27:41
Speaker 4: Everything's going to be fine, man.
00:27:42
Speaker 1: 300 people on, I hope I'm wrong. It's just, someone's going to die because we could joke about this all we want. Well, you cannot have, it's very, very sophisticated. You hire people for sophisticated, high stakes, immediate call jobs with 50 checklist items. and you do not have competency as the core reason, somebody's going to die.
00:28:05
Speaker 2: Charlie, you've been zeroing in on these issues, and I don't know if you've been doing it on the show as much or on the chat, but you say, that's a red pill issue. Trust me, this is a red pill issue. And what we're really getting at is- Because I talk to a lot of normies.
00:28:17
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's why I think this United story and the DEI story hits so hard because we've all been in the back of a plane when the turbulence hits- Or when you're flying through a storm and you're like, I'm so glad I saw the guy with the right stuff and the square jaw get into the cockpit before we took off. And I feel better now thinking about that.
00:28:36
Speaker 1: You want to go thought crime? I'm sorry. If I see a black pilot, I'm going to be like, boy, I hope he's qualified. Well, that's the, you wouldn't have done that. You wouldn't have, you wouldn't have done that before. That's not an immediate.
00:28:46
Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't have done that before.
00:28:47
Speaker 1: That's not who I am. That's not what I believe.
00:28:49
Speaker 4: It is the reality the left has created.
00:28:51
Speaker 1: I want to be as blunt as possible because now I'm connecting two dots. Wait a second. The CEO said that he's forcing that a white qualified guy is not going to get the job. So I see this guy, he might be a nice person. I say, boy, I hope he's not a Harvard style affirmative action student that has points for, and he like, he, he landed half of his flight simulator. you know, trials.
00:29:13
Speaker 4: That's the thing.
00:29:14
Speaker 1: It's such a good point. And by the way, it also, it creates like unhealthy thinking patterns. I don't want to think that way.
00:29:21
Speaker 12: Charlie Kirk back in 2024 said that when he sees a black pilot, he wonders if they're even qualified at all. Donald Trump came out, essentially tried to blame diversity for this and throw it on their favorite, you know, DEI, which is their favorite little, thing to beat.
00:29:35
Speaker 1: For the record, the totality of my of my comments were that if you are going to hire based on race and not merit, it begs such lower questions that none of us like. And I even continued the sentence to say, that's not who I am. I don't like it. But you can't even you obviously can't say that. When's the Wired magazine article going to be done on black only dormitories? When's the Wired Magazine article going to be on anti-white hiring practices at Johns Hopkins?
00:30:02
Speaker 5: Never.
00:30:03
Speaker 1: Does TPUSA see any tension that it sells merchandise of MLK and its website? By the way, we don't anymore. So this guy's outdated. What role does Blake Neff have in creating content on MLK? What have I done this time? No, this is the best part, right? Because I mentioned Blake. And he says, what role? Well, this is the perfect time to release it. This is a perfect time to announce. Little did this reporter know. that Blake Neff is director of MLK history at the Charlie Kirk show.
00:30:31
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:30:32
Speaker 4: It's my new title. Right there.
00:30:33
Speaker 2: Congratulations.
00:30:34
Speaker 4: Director of MLK Truth.
00:30:37
Speaker 3: We don't want people dying because their smoke alarms aren't being changed.
00:30:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if there was one thing to try to say.
00:30:44
Speaker 7: Charlie Kirk and friends are opposed to fire deaths.
00:30:47
Speaker 1: If there was one thing to shame a community on, it's not changing battery smoke detector shame.
00:30:53
Speaker 4: Hey, change your smoke detector batteries.
00:30:55
Speaker 1: Just fix your smoke detector right now.
00:30:57
Speaker 4: Just go and do it.
00:30:59
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:31:00
Speaker 4: Just go and do it anyway. Wait, did you guys, did you guys hear something?
00:31:07
Speaker 1: Is it okay to eat steak on Thanksgiving?
00:31:10
Speaker 4: I really worry. It's the only thing you eat on Thanksgiving.
00:31:13
Speaker 1: No, no. That's incorrect.
00:31:15
Speaker 4: Incorrect.
00:31:16
Speaker 3: Not allowed.
00:31:17
Speaker 4: No, you can have, Tyler and I were discussing this. You're saying not at all? Not at all. Not at all. You can have, you must have turkey. It is required to have turkey.
00:31:27
Speaker 7: You may have ham if it is supplementary to the turkey. But like it should be any meat you have should be from like a a central meat dispensing entity. You cannot have individualized servings of meat. That is that is my position is not from a central meat dispensing. No, like you don't you don't make a giant you don't make like a 50 pound steak and then take like a piece of it and like pass the giant super steak around.
00:31:56
Speaker 4: Like that's what you do with ham or turkey.
00:31:58
Speaker 7: Like you make the whole turkey or you make the whole ham and you like cut a little bit of it.
00:32:03
Speaker 4: But you don't do that with steak. But that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
00:32:06
Speaker 3: You can have a separate serving of a plate of steak for people similar to the ham.
00:32:12
Speaker 4: No, it's just wrong.
00:32:14
Speaker 6: Like because ham is ham is like supplement to the turkey taste. You have to have turkey and ham on your plate.
00:32:24
Speaker 4: You don't need ham, though. No, you don't need ham. You have to have turkey.
00:32:27
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm a turkey purist. But some people think that they can start to get really. Now, Christmas is a completely different ballgame. There are no rules with Christmas. Ham is usually center, but steak is acceptable. Yeah, but no, but still, Christmas is a whole Thanksgiving. It is un-American not to have either turkey, some sort of dressing, cranberries. But here's the thing about the cranberry thing. If you want to be an ultra traditionalist, it must be straight out of the can, taken vertically with no adjustments. And now if you want to have the cranberry with adjustments, that could be supplementary. But however, it must be out of the can and you just take it vertically and it just jiggles.
00:33:13
Speaker 4: Walk me through your stuffing.
00:33:14
Speaker 1: The stuffing is very interesting.
00:33:16
Speaker 5: Okay.
00:33:16
Speaker 1: Now, here's the big question.
00:33:18
Speaker 5: Yes.
00:33:18
Speaker 1: Does the stuffing go in the turkey or is it prepared outside of the turkey?
00:33:22
Speaker 4: Is that stuffing versus dressing? Do you prepare it and then put it in, cook.
00:33:24
Speaker 2: It with the turkey?
00:33:25
Speaker 3: Or some people will prepare it and then just put it in for like the final leg.
00:33:30
Speaker 1: You got to go the full lantha. So dressing has to be obviously cornbread.
00:33:38
Speaker 6: Yes.
00:33:39
Speaker 1: Some sort of celeries and carrots.
00:33:41
Speaker 4: Sure.
00:33:41
Speaker 2: Sausage. Need your crunch.
00:33:43
Speaker 1: Little crunch. Mix that all together. But you know what makes the stuffing really kicker?
00:33:49
Speaker 2: The gravy.
00:33:50
Speaker 4: Yes.
00:33:51
Speaker 1: And so you need the gravy. You have the stuffing. You have the jiggling cranberry. You got the turkey. And that's all that's accepted. And then maybe green beans and then sweet potatoes.
00:34:02
Speaker 2: Green bean casserole.
00:34:03
Speaker 1: How do you make the sweet potatoes? Whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:34:06
Speaker 4: What's the issue with green bean casserole?
00:34:08
Speaker 1: It's not allowed.
00:34:10
Speaker 4: What do you mean it's not allowed?
00:34:11
Speaker 1: You're getting too cute.
00:34:12
Speaker 4: Green bean casserole.
00:34:12
Speaker 6: No, green bean casserole with the.
00:34:14
Speaker 12: It's a staple.
00:34:15
Speaker 1: It's a total staple.
00:34:16
Speaker 4: With the.
00:34:17
Speaker 1: No, no, with those little crunchy things on top. Fried onions.
00:34:20
Speaker 5: Fried onions.
00:34:20
Speaker 4: No, no, no.
00:34:21
Speaker 11: I like.
00:34:21
Speaker 8: What?
00:34:22
Speaker 1: I like the long, uninterrupted, unblemished green beans.
00:34:26
Speaker 2: With butter.
00:34:27
Speaker 1: With butter.
00:34:27
Speaker 9: Yeah.
00:34:28
Speaker 1: That's good, though. Those are good, too. No casserole. I never said casserole. The casserole is a.
00:34:32
Speaker 4: No, we are saying casserole is a staple.
00:34:34
Speaker 1: It's an absolute Thanksgiving staple. I don't think it's a staple.
00:34:38
Speaker 2: 100%.
00:34:39
Speaker 1: And then let me think what else. Okay, yes. Then the sweet potatoes. Sure. But none of this marshmallow stuff. You see, this is new age, and it's a mistake. We're all of a sudden... We're going full trad. No, no, it's a mixture of, it's like 1950s Thanksgiving.
00:34:53
Speaker 5: Right.
00:34:53
Speaker 1: It's like, that's why it's like the gel, you know. No, no, no, I'm saying no marshmallows. No, no, no marshmallows. The marshmallow thing is a disgrace.
00:34:59
Speaker 3: Well, Charlie, hold on a second, though, because there is one thing.
00:35:03
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, wait, Todd.
00:35:04
Speaker 3: There is one thing, one dish that we know for a fact was served at the original Thanksgiving, Charlie.
00:35:09
Speaker 4: You know where I'm going with this.
00:35:11
Speaker 1: Smallpox?
00:35:12
Speaker 2: No, no, no, Charlie.
00:35:13
Speaker 4: Not what we served, what was served to us.
00:35:16
Speaker 5: Oh, got it.
00:35:17
Speaker 2: Corn.
00:35:18
Speaker 1: Oh, see, no, no, no. Corn was served at the original Thanksgiving, Charlie. The only corn that is acceptable is cornbread, I will say. You have to bend the knee to the corn god, and cornbread has to be either the dressing, the stuffing. Do you agree, Tyler?
00:35:29
Speaker 3: Long-time Thought Time listeners will remember that Charlie is like.
00:35:34
Speaker 1: Blake radicalized me against the corn god.
00:35:36
Speaker 4: He's an anti-cornite.
00:35:37
Speaker 1: We as conservatives have to reject processed food. We have to reject all this crap that we put in our foods, the dyes, red 40, purple 22. You know, by the way, These oils, canola oil, all that, it is garbage for you, okay? We eat way too much sugar, way too much carbohydrates. I know the farmers hate when I say this, but honestly, corn is not good for you, okay? Corn is real. I know people are going to boo me off stage, but corn has no nutritional value. It's not good for you. Blake, you'll back me up on this, right?
00:36:06
Speaker 4: Corn is a demon.
00:36:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, corn is really bad for you. Here's the proof. If you eat a cob of corn, you see a lot of it when it exits your body, right? Your body's literally rejecting corn. We have so many farmers that listen to us and I have so much respect for them. I'm not trying to insult their life's work of harvesting corn. I just think it's I think I think the abundance of corn in Western society is directly related to our obesity epidemic.
00:36:29
Speaker 2: It's directly related.
00:36:31
Speaker 1: I think I think corn has no redemptive value unless it is for Thanksgiving, because then it is a sacrament to Squanto.
00:36:38
Speaker 4: No, corn is good in the summertime. We eat the corn.
00:36:41
Speaker 7: On Thanksgiving to show our thanks that the angry corn god has not destroyed us.
00:36:47
Speaker 4: Exactly.
00:36:49
Speaker 1: This is exactly right.
00:36:50
Speaker 4: I forget the corn god's name.
00:36:52
Speaker 1: No, we're not talking about corn on the cob. We're talking about corn elements. Corn bread, for example.
00:36:57
Speaker 4: Corn bread is great. Even Charlie Kirk.
00:37:00
Speaker 1: The chief anti-corn.
00:37:02
Speaker 4: Wow, this is huge.
00:37:04
Speaker 2: This is big.
00:37:04
Speaker 1: Let's be very clear. Thanksgiving is not about what you want to do. It is what your ancestors did.
00:37:12
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:37:12
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you don't want to do.
00:37:15
Speaker 4: No, that's what I'm saying.
00:37:16
Speaker 1: It's not about, I don't care about, if you don't like cranberries, you don't like turkey, suck it up. It's Thanksgiving. There is no, this modernity, like, I'm going to put, like, steak.
00:37:26
Speaker 4: Tanya will not eat turkey.
00:37:27
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter.
00:37:28
Speaker 2: She'll make it.
00:37:28
Speaker 1: She won't eat it.
00:37:29
Speaker 8: Figure it out.
00:37:29
Speaker 4: She won't eat it. So here in Arizona.
00:37:31
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you.
00:37:32
Speaker 4: I completely agree with Charlie.
00:37:34
Speaker 6: I think the canned cranberry is a must on the table. However, you have to have a second. In Arizona, we have jalapeno cranberries.
00:37:46
Speaker 1: Wait.
00:37:47
Speaker 6: Incredible if you haven't had it i know you're regionalizing this too much jalapeno it's good yeah it.
00:37:53
Speaker 4: Adds a little spice it's just a little bit.
00:37:55
Speaker 7: Like when i went to the grand canyon last summer and i discovered that i guess they just sell like prickly pear everything at every arizona oh yeah yeah yeah something that's that's anywhere chicken really.
00:38:07
Speaker 6: So i i have a question for everybody though and this is getting deep into the weeds so we talked about stuffing or dressing Moist stuffing or dry stuffing?
00:38:18
Speaker 1: It's got to be dry, but the gravy makes it moist. If you make it too moist, because you always make it more moist.
00:38:24
Speaker 4: Before the gravy.
00:38:26
Speaker 1: It has to be on the spectrum of tilt moist, but not too much, because if it's too dry, then it's too brittle. And there's nothing worse than brittle dressing.
00:38:37
Speaker 4: You call it dressing or stuffing? Scoopable. I'm noticing that you call it dressing.
00:38:41
Speaker 1: It should be stuffing. However, I've been corrected many times. I've always called it stuffing, even though it's not technically stuffing unless it's within the turkey.
00:38:49
Speaker 4: Yes. Dressing's outside the turkey.
00:38:51
Speaker 1: No, it's not. No, I grew up calling it stuffing, even though we never put it in the turkey.
00:38:56
Speaker 3: I mean, I get that, but the type of food would be called still stuffing. Dressing is like for salads.
00:39:02
Speaker 4: No. No, no, no. Dressing is outside. Tyler knows that's right. I reject that completely. I totally reject that.
00:39:08
Speaker 7: For me, stuffing is like a type of food, and it should be used to stuff in it, but it is still stuffing even if it's not doing the stuffing.
00:39:16
Speaker 4: There's lots of things that we have where we don't.
00:39:18
Speaker 3: Use the name properly, but we still call it that because it used to be done that way.
00:39:22
Speaker 1: I'm excited for Thanksgiving at this point. This is great.
00:39:24
Speaker 3: Do people know we're pre-taping this?
00:39:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, ahead of.
00:39:27
Speaker 4: Today is we are on Tuesday. We blew off Thanksgiving to do this broadcast. We're supposed to be eating right now.
00:39:36
Speaker 11: Yeah.
00:39:37
Speaker 1: So let's now go to the more fundamental question. Okay.
00:39:41
Speaker 4: Dessert.
00:39:43
Speaker 1: OK, because that really is what do you need to say?
00:39:46
Speaker 2: Well, for me, I mean, if I have I have.
00:39:48
Speaker 4: All right.
00:39:49
Speaker 1: No, no, you go. You know, this is I have I have at times.
00:39:52
Speaker 4: And my mom knows this.
00:39:54
Speaker 3: I have left the house, gone to the store and purchased the ingredients for pumpkin pie and brought it home and made it myself because there was no pumpkin pie available.
00:40:05
Speaker 4: It is required.
00:40:06
Speaker 1: Oh, I completely agree. It is like the first commandment of Thanksgiving is thou shall have pumpkin pie with whipped cream. It is a non-negotiable.
00:40:17
Speaker 3: If it's not there, like I got up, I got in my car.
00:40:20
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm just going to go.
00:40:22
Speaker 1: Now Ryan asks a really good question. Is Thanksgiving meal a lunch or a dinner? The answer is around 3.30 to 4 p.m. That is the sweet spot.
00:40:33
Speaker 5: I had the honor of a lifetime to call Charlie a friend. And what I remember most wasn't just what people saw on stage. It was what was behind the scenes. That was an unwavering commitment to his faith, his love for his family, and his genuine desire to encourage others to live with courage and conviction. Charlie believed that following Christ wasn't something you compartmentalize.
00:40:57
Speaker 2: He didn't put it in a box.
00:40:59
Speaker 5: He lived it out loud. It shaped how he lived, how he served. how he treated people every single day. Charlie Kirk, American Martyr, captures that heart. This documentary isn't just simply about remembering Charlie. It's an invitation for each of us to ask what kind of legacy we're building and whether we're willing to stand firm in our own faith when it's tested. I hope that you'll watch it with your family and have those conversations together. Go to angel.com slash Kirk. That's angel.com slash Kirk. Become an Angel Guild member. Watch Charlie Kirk, American Martyr, and help bring more stories of faith, courage, and conviction to audiences around the world.
00:41:40
Speaker 1: Go support your local In-N-Out. Get it animal style, double-double. Get the secret sauce.
00:41:47
Speaker 4: Animal style is incredible. It's incredible. Animal style is incredible.
00:41:51
Speaker 2: Here's the order.
00:41:52
Speaker 1: Get two 4x4s, animal style, protein style, extra secret sauce, extra pickles, extra peppers. Heard it here first. Here's a good one. Do you tip the chambermaid?
00:42:05
Speaker 6: Honestly, I don't.
00:42:06
Speaker 1: That's the title, chambermaid.
00:42:08
Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't.
00:42:10
Speaker 1: Is it not the title, chambermaid?
00:42:12
Speaker 8: Housekeeping is chambermaid.
00:42:13
Speaker 4: You would just say housekeeping, though. This isn't the 1920s, Charlie. Charlie's like, come on, you square rubes.
00:42:20
Speaker 5: Look it up.
00:42:21
Speaker 8: It's chambermaid.
00:42:25
Speaker 4: We're going to roll.
00:42:26
Speaker 8: Some numbers here later.
00:42:27
Speaker 4: Do you call a toilet a chamber pot?
00:42:28
Speaker 8: Jiggers, it's the fuzz.
00:42:30
Speaker 1: I call it the loo, okay?
00:42:32
Speaker 4: He calls it the loo, okay.
00:42:33
Speaker 1: He's British now. I thought you were Scottish. I am Scottish.
00:42:36
Speaker 8: Is it not chambermaid?
00:42:37
Speaker 7: So wait, you call it the loo, but you don't call her the loo lady?
00:42:39
Speaker 1: The loo lady. Is it not, say, chambermaid? I'm looking this up.
00:42:43
Speaker 8: A maid who cleans bedrooms and bathrooms, especially in a hotel.
00:42:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, from a hundred years ago, maybe.
00:42:51
Speaker 8: You don't call her the chambermaid? What do you call her? The housekeeping person? Housekeeping. You just say housekeeping. No, but so insincere. What's her title? Do you call Mikey your Batman? No, no, no.
00:43:01
Speaker 4: Hold on.
00:43:02
Speaker 8: What do you think she goes around and she calls herself?
00:43:05
Speaker 4: The maid? The maid.
00:43:06
Speaker 8: Chambermaid. No one does this. Oh, just come into my chambers.
00:43:14
Speaker 1: She doesn't call herself the housekeeper maid. Lord Charlie over here.
00:43:20
Speaker 8: Erica, fetch the chambermaid. The chamber needs a turning. Exactly. Gets me a bedwarming pan.
00:43:28
Speaker 4: Draw my bath, chambermaid.
00:43:32
Speaker 2: Did a chambermaid do?
00:43:34
Speaker 11: Did.
00:43:34
Speaker 8: Did. Past tense. Past tense. The Google is.
00:43:38
Speaker 1: In past tense, therefore it's a long time ago.
00:43:40
Speaker 8: When they knock, they usually say, Chambermaid is here.
00:43:42
Speaker 11: No, they don't.
00:43:43
Speaker 8: Where are you staying? Do you take vacations, like, in the past?
00:43:47
Speaker 4: And this is why we don't actually know. Charlie, were you... Because, like, you're time traveling to the past.
00:43:51
Speaker 8: Did you sail on the Titanic?
00:43:52
Speaker 4: Did you survive that voyage?
00:43:54
Speaker 8: I have been called an old soul.
00:43:57
Speaker 5: The other Google is, what did a chambermaid do in the Middle Ages?
00:44:00
Speaker 4: In the Middle Ages!
00:44:01
Speaker 3: It's from the 1500s.
00:44:02
Speaker 8: What I don't like is how.
00:44:07
Speaker 1: Early, it gets dark in the winter. I don't want to fall back. Just keep the clocks the way they are in July the whole year.
00:44:15
Speaker 4: He's a permanent daylight savings time person. Yeah, that's the opposite. We have to reject this. Charlie, you are in rebellion against God. I agree, and here's the reason why.
00:44:23
Speaker 6: I actually want Arizona to be on Pacific time, not mountain time.
00:44:28
Speaker 1: Tyler's with me. Tyler's with me.
00:44:30
Speaker 4: So Arizona doesn't change the clocks.
00:44:32
Speaker 6: But if we go permanent, If we go permanent and we get permanent on Mountain, I'm going to be really pissed.
00:44:39
Speaker 4: Because you like.
00:44:40
Speaker 7: To share your time with California instead of Utah and Idaho.
00:44:45
Speaker 1: Life in Arizona is objectively better when it's on Pacific time. Objectively. And I'll tell you why. By the way, the spring, when all of a sudden you're three hours behind, by the time it's like 3.30 Arizona time, East Coast is done and you have a full day of work left. And it's so great. And by the way, you get up– by the way, let's say you get up at 6.30 or 7. And you can reach anybody you want on the East Coast because they're already in the office. And you have all the texts from the East Coast ready to go. And, like, you would be so efficient. What is a glory hole?
00:45:20
Speaker 4: I want to see if there's an actual definition here.
00:45:24
Speaker 1: Is this something that is considered to be commonplace knowledge?
00:45:29
Speaker 6: It– I think there was a certain senator from Idaho.
00:45:34
Speaker 4: It is a type of sexual paraphernalia, I guess you could say.
00:45:39
Speaker 1: I don't want those websites.
00:45:41
Speaker 4: That's disgusting.
00:45:43
Speaker 6: I think there was a certain senator from Idaho.
00:45:47
Speaker 7: Google knows about this forever. Your asses are going to be like that for the rest of time now.
00:45:53
Speaker 1: So who wants to take this next topic? Because I have no idea what the heck this is about.
00:45:59
Speaker 2: I think Jack should explain bonus hole to Charlie. All right, Charlie.
00:46:04
Speaker 1: So, Charlie, you've heard of bonus holes, right? Should I Google that too?
00:46:09
Speaker 2: Don't Google it.
00:46:10
Speaker 5: No, no, no.
00:46:10
Speaker 4: I'm just asking.
00:46:11
Speaker 1: You've heard of bonus holes.
00:46:13
Speaker 2: You don't know bonus holes?
00:46:15
Speaker 1: No, Jack. I don't know much about holes and that whole genre, apparently.
00:46:21
Speaker 11: The whole genre of holes. Yeah, Charlie, there's a wide cornucopia of holes out there, Charlie, and you need to be familiar with all of them.
00:46:34
Speaker 2: Here we have a new one.
00:46:36
Speaker 4: It's called the Bonus Hole.
00:46:38
Speaker 9: The Bonus Hole comes to us by way of Joe's Cervical Cancer Trust. So they're a cervical cancer charity recommending that when they make phone calls to trans individuals or perhaps trans-identifying individuals, that you may want to use less traditional terminology when referring to the part of the female anatomy formerly known as a vagina.
00:47:05
Speaker 1: Jack, a week ago, did you know what this term meant?
00:47:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I had no idea.
00:47:11
Speaker 3: I actually don't even think this existed.
00:47:13
Speaker 1: So I'm not that out of the lingo.
00:47:16
Speaker 4: This is brand new.
00:47:17
Speaker 1: Okay, glory hole, you can mock me all you want. By the way, I'm proud I didn't know what a glory hole was, okay? Bonus hole. I mean, now we're really pushing the boundaries of decency.
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00:48:58
Speaker 6: I've maintained that Lord of the Rings was the gayest movie ever in all history.
00:49:02
Speaker 4: This takes the cake. Wait, what?
00:49:03
Speaker 1: How is.
00:49:04
Speaker 4: How was the Lord of the Rings movie?
00:49:05
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
00:49:06
Speaker 4: What in the?
00:49:08
Speaker 1: Wait.
00:49:08
Speaker 8: Lord of the Rings.
00:49:09
Speaker 5: What?
00:49:10
Speaker 4: There's some pretty gay movies out there. I'm going to start a fight. The fight has started. You have begun the war, Tyler. I will finish this war. Explain yourself.
00:49:21
Speaker 1: You have to prove this point.
00:49:23
Speaker 6: There's the full clip. Sam and Frodo are so gay together. If you replaced it with a female, they'd be in love with each other.
00:49:31
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they didn't, and they're not.
00:49:33
Speaker 6: You can't sit through 15 hours of those movies and not be like, I think that's where America turned severely more gay was after the Lord of the Rings trilogy came out.
00:49:43
Speaker 4: No, you are high. You are on drugs. Tyler, you are out of control. This is unacceptable. I'm saying this takes it. This beats it, okay? That's good, but no.
00:49:56
Speaker 1: What?
00:49:57
Speaker 4: Tyler, you have made a powerful enemy today.
00:50:01
Speaker 1: It all started with Glee and Frozen, okay? It was Glee and Frozen. We've talked about this so many times that it's Glee. I know, 100%. That was the original cultural sin of modernity, okay?
00:50:11
Speaker 4: Yeah, Glee ruined America. Glee was the.
00:50:14
Speaker 1: Plague ship of wokeness.
00:50:15
Speaker 2: I bet you watched Glee all the time.
00:50:17
Speaker 4: I did not. I have no opinion on Glee because I never watched Glee.
00:50:20
Speaker 3: We covered it on the program. It was, well, and Charlie, you pointed it out first that it was actually, it was the high school musical that kind of started the genre.
00:50:30
Speaker 1: Oh, and I have a whole thing on Zac Efron, the whole thing.
00:50:32
Speaker 4: And then Glee took that and made it woke.
00:50:36
Speaker 7: Hold on now the people in the chat are saying they agree with the rings being gay i'm gonna the.
00:50:40
Speaker 6: Chat totally agrees with you the chat says.
00:50:43
Speaker 1: I i am i could not be in more agreement with blake i think lord of the rings is one of the greatest artistic accomplishments of the species.
00:50:50
Speaker 7: Yeah it's it's great like okay it's called male friendship and it's a thing that existed long.
00:50:55
Speaker 1: Before i never even thought of that Tyler just said it and i it's just If you go back and watch it now, you're going to be, like, grossed out by the entire thing.
00:51:04
Speaker 7: No, I actually watched it. I read the books for the first time this year, so I actually rewatched it. And, like, no, it's not gay. I reject your interpretation.
00:51:12
Speaker 4: I won the whole chat over the entire chat. No, it's not true.
00:51:15
Speaker 7: No, chat, we're going to have a stern talking to with the chat. They are going to get on side.
00:51:22
Speaker 4: Lord of the Rings is straight, and they're going to have to accept this.
00:51:26
Speaker 1: That was like a nuclear bomb thought crime for the record. I'm like still processing that. Like that's like pilot level thought crime. Just like drop the freaking thermonuclear weapon in the middle. We have to defend Lord of the Rings properly.
00:51:45
Speaker 4: Yeah! Straight as an arrow.
00:51:52
Speaker 1: I watched Lord of the Rings this weekend and Tyler ruined it for me. I have to just be honest. You agree with him now?
00:51:59
Speaker 4: You gave in to this?
00:52:00
Speaker 5: No, I don't.
00:52:00
Speaker 4: You see it. You see it now.
00:52:02
Speaker 1: I don't agree. I'm saying that he ruined it. I always used to look at it as, you know, brotherly love. And then Frodo and Sam, there's some very long gazes. It's brotherly love.
00:52:14
Speaker 4: I don't want to say Tyler's onto something, but like... You guys are giving in to the propaganda.
00:52:19
Speaker 5: No, no, no.
00:52:19
Speaker 4: The propaganda wants you to think every time.
00:52:25
Speaker 1: Tyler gets in your head about this and then all of a sudden you can't unsee it. I'm not even saying it's right. I'm saying you kind of infer it. And geez, Frodo doesn't look at women that way.
00:52:37
Speaker 4: This is Peter Jackson's fault.
00:52:38
Speaker 1: Doesn't look at the woman in the woods that way. Doesn't look at Liv Tyler that way.
00:52:43
Speaker 4: That's right. I think you can infer that Frodo knew his place.
00:52:47
Speaker 1: And then you really start wondering, like, Mary, Pippin, Sam, and Frodo are all sharing a room. And you really start thinking about things you shouldn't be thinking about.
00:52:56
Speaker 4: This is like a three-week log conversation. Yeah, and it's going to keep going until I win this conversation.
00:53:02
Speaker 1: And you've got to wonder, what are they actually doing in Rivendell? What are they really doing in Rivendell? Because you look at it through kind of the modern woke lens, and I'm not saying Tyler's right, but it half ruined the movie for me.
00:53:14
Speaker 4: What are they really doing in Rivendell?
00:53:17
Speaker 6: Why is Gandalf going down there like a weirdo?
00:53:21
Speaker 7: They're playing music, and they're singing their elfish songs in their elfish language, and there's nothing gay about it.
00:53:27
Speaker 4: No, what's Gandalf really going down there for?
00:53:29
Speaker 6: It's like his little Thailand.
00:53:32
Speaker 1: Is Gandalf the Epstein wizard of Middle Earth?
00:53:35
Speaker 4: Yes, he is. That's his Thailand.
00:53:39
Speaker 1: I'm not saying.
00:53:40
Speaker 2: Ryan wants us to throw this up. Ryan wants us to throw this up.
00:53:43
Speaker 6: 204.
00:53:43
Speaker 2: Let's throw it up. There it is.
00:53:48
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, once you see it through the Tyler lens, it's not that he's right. It's just you can't unsee it and it kind of ruins the film.
00:53:55
Speaker 5: Hey, I will tell you that if you go watch Top Gun, the original, like go watch that for homoerotic.
00:54:01
Speaker 4: You're going to make Top Gun gay for Charlie now too?
00:54:04
Speaker 1: Are you ruining everything? Are you going to ruin.
00:54:06
Speaker 4: Top Gun for all of us?
00:54:08
Speaker 5: I mean, Top Gun is objectively homoerotic.
00:54:11
Speaker 7: Andrew, you are putting this conversation in the danger zone.
00:54:16
Speaker 4: You are on a highway to the danger zone right now.
00:54:19
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:54:19
Speaker 4: This is not good.
00:54:19
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, there is a reason why there's a lot of rumors flowing around about the lead in that film, Tom Cruise.
00:54:26
Speaker 4: I'm just saying that.
00:54:27
Speaker 1: What else are you going to ruin for me? Top Gun, the original 1980s.
00:54:33
Speaker 5: Top Gun is the most homoerotic movie ever created.
00:54:37
Speaker 2: It's a fact.
00:54:38
Speaker 4: You're just going to come in every week.
00:54:40
Speaker 7: It's going to be one of you guys who's going to assert another movie is gay.
00:54:44
Speaker 4: You're going to be like.
00:54:46
Speaker 2: I mean, Star Wars is gay.
00:54:48
Speaker 1: The Godfather is really kind of like... It wasn't really about five families. It was kind of like a gay conclave that was running inner Italian mafia.
00:54:57
Speaker 4: You're going to be like the good, the bad, and the ugly.
00:54:59
Speaker 8: Gay.
00:54:59
Speaker 4: You're going to.
00:55:00
Speaker 2: No, no, no. Citizen Kane.
00:55:01
Speaker 1: Gay. Citizen gay.
00:55:03
Speaker 2: Gay.
00:55:06
Speaker 1: No it's not under every rock rosebud was not actually his sled growing up rosebud was a secret lover that he had during college yeah charlie don't look up the slang term don't look up slang terms for that word just that's all i'm gonna say.
00:55:20
Speaker 7: Clarence uh man you can't you can't touch you cannot touch it's a wonderful life okay you cannot touch okay.
00:55:28
Speaker 5: Hold on I mean, Top Gun is like, this is not me breaking news. Everybody knows Top Gun's homoerotic.
00:55:34
Speaker 4: No, I just Googled it. I've never thought of it that way. He's right.
00:55:37
Speaker 8: He's right.
00:55:37
Speaker 4: It's gay.
00:55:39
Speaker 7: You're going to say that Red Dawn is gay because Charlie Sheen and what's-his-name, they are holding each other on that bench after getting shot at the end.
00:55:49
Speaker 4: Look at this.
00:55:51
Speaker 5: Esquire Magazine. The Top Gun volleyball scene is... That's the new one. It is homosexual.
00:55:58
Speaker 1: That's the new one.
00:55:59
Speaker 2: No, that's the original one.
00:56:00
Speaker 1: That's the new one.
00:56:01
Speaker 4: Both of them have volleyball scenes.
00:56:05
Speaker 7: I googled the gayest movies that are explicitly gay, and also on there is Wizard of Oz. Oh, that's a different one where, whether that movie is gay or not, gay people are obsessed with Wizard of Oz because gay men love Judy Garland.
00:56:20
Speaker 1: I guess? Yes.
00:56:21
Speaker 4: Hold on.
00:56:22
Speaker 5: This is top 10 macho blockbusters with hidden homoeroticism. Number 10 is Ravenous from 1999. I've never heard of that. 300 is number nine. Number eight, Top Gun, 1986.
00:56:37
Speaker 8: What are you talking about?
00:56:39
Speaker 1: Number seven? Come on.
00:56:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because it's all these dudes running around.
00:56:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's called like dudes who are murdering other dudes.
00:56:47
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:56:49
Speaker 1: Why aren't you mad?
00:56:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm mad that you're not mad.
00:56:52
Speaker 8: We're supposed to be mocking you.
00:56:54
Speaker 1: You can't enjoy it. And then you made it your profile picture.
00:56:57
Speaker 4: Like you just you totally.
00:56:59
Speaker 3: So you they tried to own you and you actually owned them owning you.
00:57:04
Speaker 1: They have the step and repeat too. They have like the close up logo in the background. You know what I mean? Like the step and repeat. It's pretty good. And the hair is like spot on. Oh, the hair is spot on. I mean, look, I can throw every cliche out there, but when I first saw it, I just laughed. I was like there. I honestly thought, cause I first saw it in some Twitter account. I didn't recognize. I was like, this is a hundred percent AI. Like that was my first initial reaction. It was like, come on, this is somebody that just kind of spent a bunch of money on AI. And then I started other accounts posted. Then I went to the, I was like, wow, this is pretty awesome. And then the second thought I had is campus tours, me behind a table debating college kids. We are living in, we are living in their feeds rent free. So it's a, it's, it's a, it's a badge of honor and look, they're going to do their thing. They're going to make fun of me. That's okay. Fine. That's part of public life. Let's not take ourselves so seriously.
00:57:57
Speaker 2: Right.
00:57:57
Speaker 1: That's a, that's a, that's a, a signifier of how far we've come in the impact that we're making. And I, I think it's, uh, I mean, look, there are other episode on Trump the other week. I mean, people had a lot of mixed reactions or negative reactions, and I'm just going to take it. Uh, I'm going to take it all in stride.
00:58:14
Speaker 7: We just wanted to try, uh, congratulate you, Charlie. So you were, you were in the episode last week, of course. And, uh, apparently in terms of ratings, it was the most viewed South Park episode since 2018. Now, I think we probably have to give a lot of the credit, of course, to just the wider context.
00:58:32
Speaker 1: They could have had huge views if they made fun of Biden and Kamala. I mean, they decided not to be popular. Let's just be honest.
00:58:39
Speaker 7: It's very funny to me because South Park, they wouldn't really make fun of Bush much when everyone was. And they didn't really do it for Obama or Trump. They did a bit for Trump. And then, yeah, Biden, as you said, they've kind of generally avoided making fun of U.S.
00:58:52
Speaker 2: Presidents.
00:58:53
Speaker 7: And I thought their reasoning for a long time was good, which was everyone talks about U.S. presidential stuff forever. There's no new jokes to be made about it. It'll usually it's like it's low effort. You often make yourself look dumb. And they're sort of proving themselves right, because I thought the stuff with you was really good.
00:59:08
Speaker 1: I thought it was. But there's stuff it was legitimately hilarious yeah the stuff with trump.
00:59:11
Speaker 4: Has like not been as good at least no trump stuff's like.
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01:00:37
Speaker 4: Do the rest.
01:00:40
Speaker 1: I mean, so Tyler, you made an interesting point that no one's made. So the whole kind of like master debater thing, They were also getting at something that like young men are spending more time watching politics than like going through Pornhub. That was like a buried lead of that.
01:00:55
Speaker 6: This is producer Angelo, actually. Producer Angelo.
01:00:57
Speaker 1: It was a very smart point.
01:00:59
Speaker 6: It made this point, which is like how cool is the undertone that they were basically.
01:01:03
Speaker 1: That's a deep pull.
01:01:04
Speaker 4: It was a hugely deep.
01:01:06
Speaker 6: Pull that young men were more interested in getting the Charlie Kirk Award than the Pornhub Award now.
01:01:12
Speaker 4: Was that an award? Well, I mean, you know what I mean?
01:01:17
Speaker 1: Like the debate of masturbation.
01:01:20
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:01:21
Speaker 6: But they were very like leaning in on this, which is just more young men.
01:01:26
Speaker 4: America Fest is going to be great. This whole thing is hilarious.
01:01:28
Speaker 6: Young men are competing to be more conservative. And it's true. Like every single person I talked to, I just had a contractor at my house the other day. And he's like, well, what do you do? And I explained what I did.
01:01:38
Speaker 4: He's like, oh, my gosh. My kid's on TikTok all day long.
01:01:41
Speaker 6: My 14-year-old's on TikTok all day long watching nothing but Charlie Kirk.
01:01:44
Speaker 7: It actually is really funny. And then, yeah, the competition would be, like, the most extreme guys. So, like, you'll get guys online, and they'll just be like, well, actually, like, so-and-so's a cuck because he doesn't want to, like, deport the family members of everyone.
01:01:57
Speaker 4: You know, and, like, they get, like, completely unhinged. And that's where young men are now. And that's why we're winning the debate. It's where they live.
01:02:03
Speaker 6: It's they're living there, and they're taking this. And every day we're seeing headlines saying, Who's going to be the left Charlie Kirk? Who's going to be the left Charlie Kirk?
01:02:12
Speaker 4: And there's nobody.
01:02:13
Speaker 6: And they basically like South Park had to identify that. And then the second piece is, is that all of South Park. is dependent upon young men and what they care about. This is what they care about.
01:02:23
Speaker 1: The other subtext is, which I should have loved, is how mad liberal TikTok is that I'm not mad about it.
01:02:29
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:02:29
Speaker 1: That has been hilarious.
01:02:31
Speaker 4: There's even been like meta-analysis.
01:02:32
Speaker 7: They're like, some people responded, like trying to signal that they could take a joke and like, like, oh, like, oh, we have.
01:02:37
Speaker 1: To war game this. I, I, I don't, it was, it's actually, the whole thing's hilarious. I've watched some of those clips like three or four times where, It's funny. It's like well-written. It's smart. It's hilarious.
01:02:49
Speaker 6: Every single one of them was like, they're making fun of you, bro.
01:02:52
Speaker 1: Don't you know it? The joke is about you. You're not in on the joke.
01:02:56
Speaker 8: Laugh!
01:02:57
Speaker 12: Laugh!
01:02:58
Speaker 4: Laugh! No, it's so funny. Why are you laughing? It has to be on.
01:03:13
Speaker 1: More Saratoga water.
01:03:14
Speaker 4: And then showers after all this.
01:03:15
Speaker 1: Gets another banana.
01:03:17
Speaker 4: More bananas.
01:03:18
Speaker 1: Puts it on his skin.
01:03:20
Speaker 4: Yeah. So is this guy like a celebrity otherwise? Oh, yeah.
01:03:23
Speaker 1: No, he's like a professional influencer.
01:03:27
Speaker 4: You've made your first 10,000. Congratulations. We got to do at least 20, bro.
01:03:31
Speaker 1: He's like a self-help coach.
01:03:33
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
01:03:33
Speaker 6: All right.
01:03:33
Speaker 1: I got to dunk my head in some cold water. Yeah.
01:03:36
Speaker 4: That's how you prove that you're worthy. Did you squirt in the lemons, right?
01:03:42
Speaker 1: No, you have to squirt in the lemons.
01:03:44
Speaker 4: He squirted in the lemons, I think, if I'm not mistaken. You did it wrong. Now you'll never be a top tier.
01:03:48
Speaker 1: Why did I do it wrong?
01:03:48
Speaker 7: You'll never be a top tier influencer now. You also have to pour in some of the Saratoga water and mix it in.
01:03:54
Speaker 1: I have to pour in the water?
01:03:54
Speaker 7: So that you can get the transcendent properties of the water from Saratoga Springs.
01:03:59
Speaker 4: Now, you've got to mix it with your hands a bit.
01:04:01
Speaker 1: No, it's disgusting.
01:04:04
Speaker 4: He's defiant. You'll never be a top influencer now. You will never make it now. You look at it wrong. I look better, right? It's like a magic spell.
01:04:15
Speaker 6: You look like a black influencer from LA now. You're rubbing a banana on your face.
01:04:20
Speaker 4: Wait, did he do that?
01:04:21
Speaker 8: Yes, he did.
01:04:22
Speaker 4: He rubbed the banana on his face?
01:04:23
Speaker 1: I saw the peel.
01:04:23
Speaker 4: What's the point of this?
01:04:25
Speaker 8: He rubbed the banana on his face.
01:04:26
Speaker 4: I think it was the peel. I think it was the peel.
01:04:28
Speaker 1: No, I think it was the actual banana. Can we get an instant replay?
01:04:33
Speaker 2: We need someone to investigate this.
01:04:35
Speaker 1: I'm going to have my banana.
01:04:36
Speaker 4: This is going to be mean.
01:04:37
Speaker 1: No, it was definitely a banana.
01:04:40
Speaker 4: This is going to be a meme for years. We're told it was the peel. Charlie's rubbing banana all over his face.
01:04:46
Speaker 8: Is this really what he did?
01:04:49
Speaker 1: What is the health property of this?
01:04:52
Speaker 4: It's really funny. I think it's something... I think I read somewhere like you eat the peel. What?
01:05:01
Speaker 1: No, no, you don't eat the peel.
01:05:02
Speaker 4: No, someone says that... Someone deranged....
01:05:07
Speaker 3: It looks like people from all across the political spectrum are dunking on this.
01:05:10
Speaker 1: Is this, like, supposed to be... It actually makes my skin... It actually feels like lotion.
01:05:13
Speaker 4: I think that's... Yeah. It's cheap.
01:05:15
Speaker 1: It's cheap.
01:05:17
Speaker 4: It doesn't taste very good, I'll tell you that. This guy.
01:05:20
Speaker 1: One more time. Whoa!
01:05:23
Speaker 6: I mean, it has to be, like, ice bath type thing, right? Is that supposed to, like, tighten up your face?
01:05:28
Speaker 1: Okay, so, Jack, you're a fan of noise, otherwise known as country music. What.
01:05:34
Speaker 1: How should we... Andrew is the country music man. What should we make of Ginger Beard Man?
01:05:40
Speaker 4: He doesn't want to be claimed by one side or the other.
01:05:43
Speaker 3: This was a rejection, and I think conservatives need to understand to be branded as a conservative, to be branded, or even worse, as a Republican, is still seen as negative in this country.
01:05:54
Speaker 1: So do we have to continue to pretend the song is good? I like the song.
01:06:00
Speaker 2: I was down with the song.
01:06:01
Speaker 1: I rocked the song.
01:06:02
Speaker 4: Catch the song.
01:06:03
Speaker 1: I think the whole thing is really, I mean, I'm just serious. What is the appeal of such anthem?
01:06:10
Speaker 2: You mean the lyrical appeal or the musical appeal?
01:06:12
Speaker 5: Both.
01:06:13
Speaker 1: I mean, it's basically repurposed populist nationalism with basically some guy out of tune yelling into the sky. What is admirable about this whole thing? I'm honestly curious because everybody, I refuse to get on the bandwagon. They need a way to splinter the white working class base. and they're going to try to find somebody in music, in art, whatever it is, and they try to do this McConaughey, but he failed, okay, where they can try to get a little bit of doubt into this new identity politic group that has really been built in the Trump MAGA movement as this solid monolith. Anything they can do to cast doubt in the white working class base. They try to do this with Yellowstone, Kevin Costner. This is part of a strategy because white working class America... with a little bit of swing voters, wins elections. I'm not on Oliver Anthony's side because he produces noise, not music. But beyond that, the part here that really bothers me, this is such, this is someone who is almost thinking like, I'm not saying is, thinking like a trained Marxist that does not understand incentives, understand how markets work, quite honestly. So here's a guy that comes in. He's like, well, I demand $ 120, 000. That's not an unreasonable ask, by the way. That's actually a pretty fair rate. But simultaneously, I'm going to price control the tickets, and I'm going to basically centrally plan and intervene with the person that is then going to run all the production. And so they say, wait, hold on a second. We have to charge a certain amount because there's facility costs, there's security, there's ticketing, there's AV, there's insurance. Not easy, not cheap. We're doing it literally right now. You don't get to come in and all of a sudden call shots and be like, well, I want this to be a working class thing. Well, then wave your feet. Oliver Anthony, waive your $ 120, 000 fee, right? Or do the show for free. But I look at this Oliver Anthony thing and I can't help but think that this guy's thinking like the very same people we were fighting, which is like a Marxist. It's very clear that Oliver Anthony hates people who owns the means of production. George Orwell called himself a socialist for most of his life. And the more he hung around socialists, he realized they were more animated by the hatred of the rich than trying to take care of the poor. We have to be very careful that our heroes who might say a thing or two to try to represent working people are not animated by trying to go after people who own the means of production. I am all for representation for the working class, the white working class, the black working class, all of it. I'm all for restoring the muscular class in this country. But if we start to get in a direction where all of a sudden we're driven by people that have deep-seated envy, anger, resentment, like Oliver Anthony, then we're going to be in a real tough spot. In a bad spot, actually. Because I think deep down, Oliver Anthony hates people who start businesses. Hates entrepreneurs. And that really is dangerous. I reject that completely. There is a healthy balance between entrepreneurs who make the world a better place and make the world work and the working class. That balance is a healthy one. Oliver Anthony, he is Ginger Bernie Sanders with a banjo.
01:09:32
Speaker 4: I think about the Roman Empire every single day. Oh, me too.
01:09:34
Speaker 1: So here's the Guardian headline. Women across the world are asking men how often the ancient civilization pops into their head. And the answer is frequently startling. I mean, I think about Rome all the time, Blake. And women are fascinated. By the way, you know that the political people are like, and this is why they're right-wing fascists.
01:09:51
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know, and it's always like it's the longest lasting empire that existed in certainly the Western world and basically ever for that matter. And I guess you could throw in Egypt or some nonsense.
01:10:03
Speaker 4: Ignore them. So, you know, it lasts ages.
01:10:06
Speaker 7: It has like a very well-documented rise, a very well-documented decline and fall. So everyone's always thinking like, is America like Are we going to collapse the way Rome did?
01:10:14
Speaker 4: No. We're going to collapse far faster and in a more embarrassing fashion.
01:10:19
Speaker 2: We're in the midst of that collapse.
01:10:20
Speaker 1: How many years was Rome a thing?
01:10:22
Speaker 4: 474. Rome was a thing.
01:10:23
Speaker 2: And we're at too glorious.
01:10:25
Speaker 7: Rome, in terms of being the most powerful country in the world, Rome was the most powerful thing going for about 600 years, I would say.
01:10:33
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:10:34
Speaker 2: But what are we at?
01:10:34
Speaker 4: 240?
01:10:35
Speaker 1: Rome was 482.
01:10:36
Speaker 2: 42 tech.
01:10:38
Speaker 4: Yeah. Right.
01:10:38
Speaker 2: But we're two.
01:10:39
Speaker 7: 46, four 76 is when in the Western empire, maybe Mark, if we're counting, he is wrong.
01:10:45
Speaker 4: And if we're counting, I knew he was from the East.
01:10:50
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01:12:25
Speaker 1: Trump history. Jack, many people do not know Donald Trump... taught Socrates everything he knew.
01:12:33
Speaker 3: The true history of Donald Trump, his background and his historic accomplishments, achievements and contributions to the growth of human society. Now, the media constantly overlooks these things.
01:12:47
Speaker 1: This is Donald Trump walking in Selma with Martin Luther King. Now, thanks to AI, we're able to have all these amazing images, Jack.
01:12:56
Speaker 3: In fact, many people need to understand they're not AI created. These are just revealed to us through AI.
01:13:01
Speaker 1: Many people do not know Donald Trump led Julius Caesar and his legion across the Rubicon. That would begin a civil war and signaled the end of the Roman Republic. He was like, right here, Jules.
01:13:12
Speaker 4: It's thin.
01:13:12
Speaker 1: It's shallow right.
01:13:13
Speaker 4: Here, Jules.
01:13:14
Speaker 1: There's Donald Trump executing the Louisiana Purchase with Napoleon Bonaparte.
01:13:19
Speaker 3: He said, give him hell, Napoleon.
01:13:21
Speaker 4: Take the money.
01:13:23
Speaker 1: Give him hell. Best deal ever.
01:13:26
Speaker 2: So, okay, honest question. Why do you guys like these? Why do you guys like these?
01:13:31
Speaker 4: Because they're hilarious.
01:13:33
Speaker 3: Andrew, we're revealing what's been hidden from us from our own history, and now finally we're able to bring it to the people, much like Prometheus bringing fire from the gods.
01:13:46
Speaker 1: I think they're absolutely hilarious because... Donald Trump.
01:13:48
Speaker 3: Inventing the wheel.
01:13:49
Speaker 6: Hey, look, if Indiana Jones can go back in time and do this, then Donald Trump sure can.
01:13:54
Speaker 3: He's not going back in time. He was actually alive during all these times.
01:13:58
Speaker 2: He was actually there.
01:14:00
Speaker 1: I personally can't get enough of them. I think they're absolutely hilarious.
01:14:03
Speaker 7: We have to get to this week's big AI meme or gimmick or whatever, but it's making action figures or kind of toys of various people.
01:14:14
Speaker 4: So we, of course, have already had one for Trump. We've had some for Vance.
01:14:17
Speaker 7: We've had some for all the political figures, but nothing says it has to be a person in the Trump White House.
01:14:24
Speaker 4: So let's put up 335, guys.
01:14:27
Speaker 7: We've made the Charlie Kirk toy, the prove-me-wrong Charlie.
01:14:34
Speaker 4: It took us a few attempts. It's your action figure. Can we zoom in on that?
01:14:38
Speaker 1: I like it. You know what's the only thing that's missing is my lozenges and my bottle of olive oil.
01:14:47
Speaker 7: Well, you've got your Starbucks cup that you've got.
01:14:50
Speaker 4: Everywhere, and we've got your hat. And is it America first on the shirt?
01:14:56
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:14:57
Speaker 4: All right.
01:14:59
Speaker 7: I said they should put vote early on the shirt, but maybe that would be, that would be like the period piece one. I mean, the real one of course could have like five different shirts and you can realistically change them on the little Charlie figure to, to make it better. But we didn't stop there. Let's put up three 34. We made the post. So one, we had the post. So doll, he, he kind of looks like a little, uh, We have his accurate phone.
01:15:22
Speaker 4: That's really accurate. We have his Creed album there.
01:15:27
Speaker 5: On CD, of course. This suit is pretty amazing. You have short little legs, though.
01:15:33
Speaker 4: My goodness. Yeah, it's like he's a little dwarf.
01:15:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, why is it like midget pozo?
01:15:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's up with that? Wait, go back.
01:15:41
Speaker 1: Was Charlie full-size Charlie or was Charlie stumpy?
01:15:45
Speaker 4: I don't think Charlie was.
01:15:47
Speaker 8: Yeah, see, you didn't do it to Charlie. What's up with that? Charlie looks normal.
01:15:51
Speaker 9: Charlie, you guys got to get, like, you need a coffee sponsor, man.
01:15:55
Speaker 4: You can't keep repping Starbucks like that.
01:15:59
Speaker 1: Oh, I know. I need to get a real coffee partner.
01:16:02
Speaker 5: All right.
01:16:03
Speaker 7: Now, what else do we have? We made a Tyler Bowyer one. Put up the Tyler one. So his is not the action figure part is breaking down a little bit, but we've got his aviator glasses. We have his Phoenix Suns jersey that would not actually fit on that on that figure, but whatever.
01:16:21
Speaker 4: And we also have his ASU hat.
01:16:23
Speaker 7: Thinking about it now, we should give him that like red cowboy hat thing that we had for the like, was it the precinct during the election?
01:16:30
Speaker 4: No, the big the big red cowboy hat one.
01:16:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was like the MAGA MAGA version of it.
01:16:35
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:16:37
Speaker 4: And then do we have an Andrew one? Did we finish that? All right.
01:16:43
Speaker 7: We have executive producer Andrew. We've got a Dodgers hat. Is that a Tesla at the bottom? He's very proud of that Tesla.
01:16:53
Speaker 2: So the action figures were all lead up into this, Charlie.
01:16:58
Speaker 8: This has millions of views on like YouTube and TikTok.
01:17:03
Speaker 1: He grew up working with his own two hands. Do people believe this is real?
01:17:10
Speaker 4: Yes. Yes. Millions of people just mindlessly.
01:17:15
Speaker 5: The lips aren't even legit.
01:17:18
Speaker 3: There's a whole genre of these.
01:17:21
Speaker 1: Like Barron did.
01:17:21
Speaker 2: There's America's Got Talent. This is actually a good song, though.
01:17:26
Speaker 1: This song is a lot better than the Beyonce. No, so that's the other thing. If anyone ever plays country music voluntarily, I leave. I actually, my family and I left a restaurant recently because they were playing country music. I said, I'm not going to pay. This is ridiculous.
01:17:38
Speaker 8: So we left.
01:17:39
Speaker 1: And I could do AI all day long because I think it's the most interesting thing happening. I think everything else is a distraction. I think AI is the most important thing happening on the planet right now. Like more important than everything. And I actually think it can be really exciting and also terrifying. I think that we are being, as a movement, prepared. for this window of time where, you know, we can play, you know, the boomers, this like Gen Z millennials, when we get towards peak political maturity in 10, 15 or 20 years, all of this experience is going to have a crescendo where we're going to be answering and deciding and governing. It will be like the Magna Carta for human beings. I know that might sound like, no, I'm not kidding. I know that might sound like a hyperbole, but like 500 years from now, they're going to look back and be like, wow, in 2040 that original declaration of rights of here's what ai does and here's what it doesn't do here's and then then we chart the path for the next thousand years that's how important this is it's bigger than like solving wars and the border all that stuff's important this is the stuff that will determine whether or not we exist as a species i've done so much thinking about this there will be such a revealing moment of someone that's nakedly bought by corporations that will make a short-term deal and they'll just do it for money or a payoff where these corporations are like, I can displace 99% of my workforce. And that's going to expose our politics in a way that will make people revolt. Everybody, thanks so much. Change your batteries. I learned what a glory hole is. Keep the thought crimes going. Because they may soon be outlawed. Until next week, keep committing thought crimes. From all of us at Thought Crime, I hope you have a chirpy new year. Until next week, keep on committing thought crimes. And keep committing thought crimes. God bless you guys. And make sure you stay free of CCP spying. This was an unusual episode of Thought Crimes. Thank you guys for that. And keep committing thought crimes. Talk to you guys soon.
01:19:34
Speaker 2: God bless.
01:19:34
Speaker 1: Keep on committing thought crimes. We'll talk to you soon.
01:19:37
Speaker 4: All right, everybody.
01:19:37
Speaker 1: That was a wonderful episode.
01:19:39
Speaker 4: Stay based.
01:19:40
Speaker 1: Avoid clowns, spiders, and defeat in November. God bless you guys as we say goodnight. Until next week. Straight as an arrow.
01:19:50
Speaker 8: Straight edge.
01:19:55
Speaker 1: Not like a $ 3 bill. We'll see you guys next week. Keep committing thought crimes. God bless and see you next week.
01:20:05
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