THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 135 — JD Vance and Aliens? Šxʷməθkʷəy̓əmasəm Street? The Agony and The Odyssey?

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How's the weather down at Fort watching? 00:01:54 Speaker 4: I gotta be treuful with these things. They're gonna we're gonna get at least like eighteen episodes about that from you know. 00:02:00 Speaker 3: You know how the internet clips this stuff? 00:02:02 Speaker 8: My goodness, well they they which because like there I actually and I think we've talked about on the show before. 00:02:13 Speaker 9: I've I served at Fort wi Chuka, I think twice in in my career for uh, you know, different training programs and and anyone who actually knows anything about like the military, note the Fort Wichuka is like a training base. 00:02:27 Speaker 6: That's literally where you go for the army. 00:02:29 Speaker 9: You're going for you know, for training right after foot camp, or you would then go back for further training like I was doing. But it's it's not it's it's a training base. 00:02:39 Speaker 4: I will say. I will say I have never been there, but due to all of the insane things they've said, I I'll eventually have to go to Tombstone to check it out. Now do the standard restaurants pretty close to there, so I'll probably go and take photos and just just for the memes as it were. 00:02:58 Speaker 9: You know, what's really really cool is uh Tyler. I think we've talked about the town of Bisbee, you know Bisbee. 00:03:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard. That's great. I want to I want to go that. 00:03:07 Speaker 7: You just stole the words right out of my mouth. Check. I was just gonna I'm like the biggest promoter of this. The queen mind. That's that it's a copper mind. 00:03:14 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:03:14 Speaker 7: And it's still they still can take you down there and you like go down like you know in uh, you know in uh Back to the Future part two when they go visit like the like the cemetery and it's like and they like see. 00:03:30 Speaker 4: All the does talk about part two or part three, Well, it's in part three three. 00:03:35 Speaker 7: No, it starts in part two. Remember they go to the no no no Part two. They go and he and he finds out that like like his dad he died, No, he died like way back. He's like wait what and then it leads into part three, Part two. 00:03:49 Speaker 3: It's like that in part two. 00:03:50 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know you're talking about. 00:03:52 Speaker 7: Yeah, the mine, you like go in, like there's like a graveyard that's right there, and then you like go into a mine. It's like the most western thing that you've ever seen your entire life. And it's really cool down there. It's like a really really it's a great thing to take people. 00:04:04 Speaker 4: I'm excited to go. I went north for this last Memorial Day. But maybe the next time I have a three day week and I will I will explore the south of the state a lot. But speaking of this state, we have an unusual first topic. But we wanted to get it because Tyler never suggests topics. He's like always a bit out of He sometimes rolls in it's like what are we talking about? But he had something he wanted to talk about today. 00:04:28 Speaker 9: I can I just said it throw up before we get into the topic. I went throughout that I will to everyone that. So this is the first episode as far as I know, that we've done from London, England. So I'm in London, England. We've done some international episodes before, but I think this is the first time that we've done an episode of thought Crime where the things that I say on this program could be actual crimes where I am. 00:04:53 Speaker 4: Especially if you blaspheme the profit of Islam, who we know is the you know, state religion of the country that you're in. 00:05:02 Speaker 3: I noticed, I noticed you were on set with Peers. That was like the first time I've ever seen anybody on Piers Morgan on set with him. 00:05:11 Speaker 6: That was like, yeah, it was actually it was actually right there. 00:05:14 Speaker 3: You could you could smell his muskwa. 00:05:18 Speaker 7: Could I was? 00:05:19 Speaker 9: I was, I was, I was very I was very attracted, I have to admit by but I maintained maintained by unblemish record. 00:05:27 Speaker 3: Which did we did he smell like tka masala, you know, actually his favorite food cologne something didn't He didn't see anything like that anywhere near there. 00:05:40 Speaker 7: Jack rolled into England and England immediately lost their football game. Jack had so much American spirit that his presence in the country of England caused them. 00:05:58 Speaker 9: With messy I expected, did you ever, like Jack, did you run into their manager and tell them. 00:06:05 Speaker 4: To to have that terrible strategy that caused them to lose the game where they scored? 00:06:09 Speaker 9: Well, you know, you know their manager Isn't you know the story about the manager though? 00:06:13 Speaker 6: Right? 00:06:15 Speaker 3: Soccer? 00:06:16 Speaker 6: So no, I just know this because I'm here. 00:06:17 Speaker 9: People are all talking about So he's actually German. So one of the one of the jokes that's going around. We're here at c pac UK and one of the jokes is that as a German, of course he was collaborating with the Argentinians. 00:06:31 Speaker 3: Mmm, he's gonna flee to Argentina next, that's. 00:06:37 Speaker 7: All right, all right, all, I'm sure there's some Polish people that made their way over to Argentina at some point too. There's some Polish blood over there too. 00:06:47 Speaker 6: Probably it's a lot of German and Italian though it's far to no. 00:06:50 Speaker 4: All right now. 00:06:51 Speaker 9: Funny, Actually, even though I'm in London, I'm actually drinking one of my favorite Chinese drinks. 00:06:57 Speaker 6: This is coconut milk. So we're drinking coconut. 00:06:59 Speaker 4: Milks and I oh lovely. All right, Tyler, pressure's on. You have your topic you wanted to talk about, and it involves the state of Arizona, which is a state near and dear to your heart, because unlike all the rest of us, you're actually from here. 00:07:12 Speaker 7: Well, it's also on the heels of the the Tyler Robinson stuff last week. I mean, this stuff is serious. Let's throw up the Arizona Central article. 00:07:24 Speaker 4: I think we have it right, the number one for one for b real. 00:07:30 Speaker 7: So this is how the news reports things in Arizona. Former Arizona political candidate Brianna Westbrook is accused of burglary. 00:07:41 Speaker 4: Okay, what a delightfully vague headline. 00:07:43 Speaker 7: What a delightfully vague headline. So the real title is that the former chair vice chair of the Democrat Party. That's trans So this is actually a. 00:07:56 Speaker 4: Man, that is what Brianna was? It Brian was I. 00:08:01 Speaker 7: Don't even know it's it's it's a I didn't even get deep enough to find out what his original name was. But Brianna is a man. I'm guessing it's it's probably a Brian uh it held went to his ex He thinks he's a lesbian because he's this is his whole thing. And I don't even know if we do we do we pull up the website, I don't. 00:08:24 Speaker 4: I don't think that you're tell us where to go and we can get it real quick. 00:08:28 Speaker 7: So this is crazy stuff. 00:08:31 Speaker 3: So that's that's a dude. 00:08:35 Speaker 7: He's been, he's been. Uh he was the vice chair of the Democrat Party in Arizona. He pictured here with Kamala Harris and is now a has has quit so he's no longer the vice chair of the Democrat Party. But this was literally someone that got elected as the leader of the Democrat Party and uh was was caught this week, was arrested for going to his lovers or somebody's former lover's house. It's it's not super clear with and at knife point and. 00:09:11 Speaker 4: The knife so they sold stuff but threaten NiFe. 00:09:16 Speaker 7: I don't we don't know yet, but we know a knife was involved. So this unhinged trans man that's pretending to be a woman, it was shows up knife point. This was a candidate for legislative so for for the legislature this last time I ran. They after that elected him to be the vice chair. So that's like the second in command for the entire Democrat Party in the state of Arizona. You can see here it was prominent enough to be photographed with Kamala Harris during the election. This is crazy stuff, like totally crazy. 00:09:49 Speaker 3: Wait, so it is the lover. Is the lover a dude or a woman? 00:09:54 Speaker 7: My understanding, it's a woman. So it gets crazier. So somebody posted, So I posted about this. I was like, this is crazy. 00:10:02 Speaker 6: Then, how crazy is that? 00:10:04 Speaker 9: We don't even like you have to say my understanding, like this is something that in normal crimes would just be sort of like a routine fact that, Okay, you know, this is this type of person. 00:10:15 Speaker 6: We need the Daily Mail description. Sorry, it's just like Jack. 00:10:20 Speaker 4: You're in the UK. Jack, you're in the UK. You need to ask the Daily Mail to write an article about this so we can actually get the useful information about this person in an article that we can read. 00:10:29 Speaker 7: This gets crazier. 00:10:30 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:10:31 Speaker 3: When I go to. 00:10:31 Speaker 9: Daily Mail it defaults to the defaults to the UK edition, which is just. 00:10:35 Speaker 7: Horrible, horrible. It must be terrible, really, So if we can pull up Harleydevil dot com. I don't know if we can pull that up. Oh, here it is yep, that so apparently is that is that him again? Yeah? So he has an entire fake breast. WHOA. If you go to the website, you can scroll through this. You gotta see the whole thing. So I don't know if we can pull the whole website just go to Harleydevil dot com. I don't know if we can pull that up on somebody's computer and. 00:11:04 Speaker 4: Your favorite villain, your worst obsession. 00:11:08 Speaker 7: So if you go to Harley Devil and don't do this around children, you have to type in your birth date first so that you can even access this website. 00:11:17 Speaker 4: Harley Deville is a post op trans woman, queer performer and dark feminine force of nature. Her work blends erotic art, gothic glamour, seduction, and unapologetic self expression. She performs solo and with select collaborators, creating scenes rooted in chemistry, consent, fantasy, and raw visual intensity. I've got to like replace this laptop now, Tyler. 00:11:50 Speaker 7: You're never gonna be the same. You're probably gonna cookies attached to your computer. But this, if we can pull up this, you gotta see this is like disgusting stuff. He has a OnlyFans he is on Instagram Twitter like not very many followers. TikTok. I mean this was the vice chair of the entire Democrat Party for the state of Arizona, that is one both Senate seats that currently has the governorship here in Arizona. 00:12:19 Speaker 4: So you're saying is that despite all of this, he was pretty good at it. 00:12:24 Speaker 7: This is who they elected. This is like who you're getting in Arizona. People don't believe me when they say, like we have literally like yeah again, please don't open this up around kids like this will like literally mentally mess them up, like for the future here. But this is what you get with Democrats. Now, the Democrat Party has gone full trans They've gone full you know, scriput. But this isn't The thing is the handles on these things. This isn't just your normal run of the mill cross dressing, you know, have fun messed around like messed up gay guy. This is literally a person who thinks he's a lesbian. He is a Satan worshiper. Like his name's Harley Deville or Harley Devil right or whatever he's called himself and on his his screen names are like Harley Devil six sixty six this is a state worshiping straight up off the rocker, like it pops up joined the dark side. It's like really creepy stuff. 00:13:22 Speaker 4: So you're saying, like Median Democrat voter, this is the middle. 00:13:27 Speaker 7: Of the road for the Democrat Party now, and this might be we can't we can't get we can't get the reporters to report. 00:13:35 Speaker 3: Everybody did did they know this? 00:13:38 Speaker 7: There's not a yeah. 00:13:39 Speaker 3: I was texting with advice chair did they know this? 00:13:43 Speaker 7: I was texting with the with the with the like one of the main political reporters that the Arizona Republic today, just like making fun of him all day because I was like, you guys aren't even reporting on any of this stuff. Like you guys write anytime that somebody like coughs the wrong way as a Republican, you guys write headline stories. You guys aren't writing headline stories on any of this stuff. 00:14:08 Speaker 3: If you could go back in time and buy oil before the world relied on it, would you? Of course you would? Anybody would, So why aren't you buying silver right now? The people who recognized oil early didn't just make money, They got ahead of one of the biggest economic shifts in history and today, a similar opportunity is unfolding with silver. Silver is more than a precious metal. It's a critical resource used in solar panels, electric vehicles, defend systems AI infrastructure in the massive data centers powering that digital world. While demand keeps growing, it's still affordable enough that the average American can start accumulating it right now. That's why investors are turning to silver to protect against inflation and to own one of the world's most important strategic resources. 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Oh darn her for committing burglary. 00:15:43 Speaker 4: Like Westbrook helped organize the twenty nineteen Women's March in Phoenix, she organized the Women's March during her initial. 00:15:53 Speaker 9: Wait wait, wait, wait, so what if you're are trans an ally of women in that game? 00:16:00 Speaker 6: Or are you you are a woman? I can't keep up. 00:16:04 Speaker 7: She's this this he is such a is such a uh such an ally of women? You know, thinks he's a lesbian, such an ally of women. He's showing up to what I presume is another woman's house with a knife. So this is what you get with? Uh? 00:16:20 Speaker 3: Do we understand? Do we know that the backstory? Was this just domestic violence? 00:16:24 Speaker 7: Was this like a I don't think it's been I don't think it's been investigated yet. We just know that he got arrested for showing up with a knife to an ex's place. That's probably not kid So we're probably gonna get some some kind of bodycam footage. We're probably gonna get. So this is this is a nightmare for Democrats in Arizona because again, this is the reason why they don't want to report on it, because there's gonna be body cam footage. I'm sure there's rain camera footage. There's gonna be some kind of case that that it goes on with this and whoever the poor woman is that got in this relationship with this guy, you know, I feel so bad for her, right like, and maybe it's another trans man. 00:17:03 Speaker 3: I don't know, but like, let's I mean, if you're if you're associating with somebody with this much mental illness, then you you're probably mentally ill too, So you could look at that one or two ways. 00:17:14 Speaker 7: I like, I've thought about that, Andrew, and that's like, that's like a k. 00:17:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. 00:17:20 Speaker 4: I don't listen to the radio, so kt are they're right, they're right up, they're right up. Has a very funny time at the end. During her his initial court appearance, Westbrook told the judge she he had never been arrested before, even though she wrote a twenty eighteen blog post about being arrested and it's an a c l U blog post. Law enforcement mistreated me because I'm transgender. I was arrested. Uh, this guy got arrested for trespassing at Senator Jeff Flake's office in Phoenix and got arrested for that and the charge against dropped. But what's that. 00:17:56 Speaker 7: The funny part about that is now this same now Jeff Flake is like friends with these people. 00:18:03 Speaker 4: I mean, Jeff Flake, might I mean Jeff Flake might even soon be you know another trans woman who could did burglar. Sorry, I shouldn't say that. I don't know any well. 00:18:15 Speaker 7: Spot with my heart because he was one of the few people who absolutely hate us that reached out after Charlie. 00:18:22 Speaker 4: Was okay, that's good, Okay, I fully disavowed the meme thing I said about Jeff Flake. 00:18:26 Speaker 7: So I've been, I've been, I've been to attack Jeff Flake just because of that, even though he. 00:18:30 Speaker 3: Think Jeff Flake, Yeah, I think Jeff Flaked has low t I think Pete hegg Seth would like to have a word with Jeff Flake. All right, Jack, Sorry, I know you're trying to get in. 00:18:39 Speaker 9: There, but but no, I can say that you know this, this would actually be extremely on brand for a lesbian because if we're ready to really get into thought crimes that according to the CDC, in multiple reports, the the lifetime physical violence by an intimate partner highest percentage is with lesbian couples. 00:19:05 Speaker 7: Yeah, that is that is true. That is accurate. And they have the highest breakups too, yep, because so the number one the worst combination that people have shown. And I don't believe this totally because they say that men stay together like two gay mens stay together longer than male female combinations now, but but by by wide margin, lesbian couples have the most tumult in their relationships. 00:19:34 Speaker 4: Gots. We got a donation from Zuzu's Pedals. Thank you, I have dollars And she says, everything I am seeing about this person makes me want to scrub my eyeballs so I can unsee it. 00:19:45 Speaker 7: It is, Yes, it is literally one of the worst things that's going on. 00:19:51 Speaker 3: And what's talking about this? That's what I was gonna say. The craziest thing is that this is so not reported yet. I think we can get some some people to report this people. I'm gonna send this segment to a couple of people. 00:20:05 Speaker 4: People complain that local news is dying out, and I think this is a large part of it. As you just you'll have these libs who are working at the Arizona Republic, and they'll complain, nobody reads local news anymore, no one supporting their local newspapers, and then they just actively refuse to cover the things that would totally get them eyeballs, like insane, weird. You know, transgender person who's a Democrat burglarizes their lover or something like. This is free content. You should be milking this for all it's worth, and they refuse to do so, and then they complain. 00:20:37 Speaker 3: I feel like there's a bunch of jokes in there. But yeah, Tyler, thank you for raising this to the four and we can't. 00:20:45 Speaker 7: I want to. I want to bring this up because I gotta talk about on the show, like there's gonna be lots of things that happen with this, because this, this, this isn't just like some rando candidate that the Democrats can disavow. They elected him to be the vice chair of the Democrat Party for multiple years. 00:21:03 Speaker 3: When did said when did said trans person stop being a vice chair? 00:21:08 Speaker 7: I don't know, I don't know the exact timeline. I think it was sometimes. I think it was after twenty twenty five, so I think it was sometime last year, but it was for. 00:21:16 Speaker 3: Two but relatively recently. Yes, first this was like the Democrat Party. 00:21:20 Speaker 7: Yeah, he was the vice chair of the Democrat Party. 00:21:24 Speaker 3: When he transitioned a while ago. But he's already in Women's twenty eighteen. 00:21:28 Speaker 4: In twenty eighteen, they have a photo of him, and he definitely looks much more dude who grew his hairlong compared to recent ones which seemed much more operative, for lack of a lack of a better. 00:21:43 Speaker 7: Word, operative is actually the. 00:21:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, it's probably the operation literally actually exactly before we move on to til how excited are you about hold on? 00:21:56 Speaker 6: Are we changing topics? 00:21:57 Speaker 4: Well, I was going to say, before we semi move on to the topic, I was going to ask if he's excited about the New York Post writing up his other his other batnoir in Arizona politics, Ruben Diego, Did you see that, Ruben Diego. 00:22:11 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm cautious to talk about it until more stuff comes out, because. 00:22:15 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think they need I mean, I think we need more on that. I think we need more. Yeah, but no, Tyler, I was. 00:22:21 Speaker 3: All I said, Yeah, go ahead, Jack, No. 00:22:25 Speaker 9: I was just gonna ask if you're so. If you're I mean, maybe it's just brought a question for everyone. But you know it, if you're Democrat and you get elected as one gender and then at some point you transition to another gender and and also change your name, and and you say this is actually my real identity, then then would there be a question. 00:22:48 Speaker 6: That you were that your your you. 00:22:52 Speaker 9: Know, election to government was actually you know, therefore invalid because you actually weren't elected. 00:22:58 Speaker 6: It was somebody else who was elect this. 00:23:00 Speaker 7: I mean I think that you could you shouldn't be able to make that case, right. 00:23:03 Speaker 4: I wish we could make that case, because then we could bring it against all the Republicans who run as one thing and then become a bunch of eunuchs in DC, because they were certainly spiritual units as well as quite literal physical ones who run only fans. All right, that was fun. Glad we got it, and we can wait on more stuff to come about out about Ruber than we can get a second topic. 00:23:24 Speaker 6: Did we get do we get this clip? 00:23:26 Speaker 9: Do we get this clip that that I that I found today before we before we move lose off the trance topic. I believe we do have this loaded that. So I'm over here in the UK and it came across. So there was a murder in the UK. This you know, beautiful woman. There is this older woman, Ann Whittacombe. She's a former Conservative MP. She's been serving as a spokeswoman for Reform Nigel Faraj's party and she was murdered in her home, a bludgeoned to death in her own kitchen in the countryside in Devon and we're, you know, get At first they said it was not political, it's not political, but then we found out that the suspect drove three hundred miles to get to her house and then drove all the way back, which is a little bit odd if it's just a burgulary or something. And now the police are actually investigating it as political. And you know, it remains to be seen obviously in caveat caveat, But there was a trans I guess MP that you know that they have from Scotland who was just trashing and I said, oh my gosh, I can't believe this. And then I saw that this trans had also made some comments. 00:24:44 Speaker 6: About Charlie and I had never even heard. 00:24:46 Speaker 9: Of this, and you know, maybe it's something that had gone viral, you know, kind of in the wake of that when we were all sort of you know, we were sort of obviously otherwise occupied. 00:24:54 Speaker 6: But guys, I saw it, so you have to see it. You know the rules. It's start twenty four. 00:25:02 Speaker 10: Charlie Kirk was a transferber, possibly one of the biggest transphobers in America. He was a right wing idiot. Basically, he died spreading misinformation about trans people and gun violence. He would not mourn my death at all. And I don't mourn his. That's not to say that I want people to die. I don't want him. I didn't want him to die, but since somebody shot him, I don't really care. 00:25:45 Speaker 11: And to the fake liberals who are, oh, oh no, how dare you the poor, he's a human than you know. 00:26:02 Speaker 7: So we have a trans problem in this country. 00:26:05 Speaker 3: In this world. 00:26:05 Speaker 9: Yeah, And that's that's scott So that was and I just want to make me clear what it was that There is a four former Scottish Green candidate for Member of Parliament and currently an employee of course at the University of Aberdeen works in higher. 00:26:19 Speaker 3: Education, teachers and nurses. Like it's I don't know what it is, like a moth to the flame, but it's like crazy radicals are just drawn to these two professions. And I will never really fully understand why. I have my theories, but it's like, man, be careful when you're talking to nurses and teachers professors, because fifty percent odds you're talking to a lunatic. That's basically where I put it at. And we have a lot of great nurses and there's a lot of great teachers. So it's one of those things where it's like we need these people. But man, those professions are I think the crazy people I hear that. 00:26:58 Speaker 4: I think the more blunt answer to that is those are verses that have nurses and teachers are positions that there's a ton of them, and they're just demanding enough that those people are going to have like verbal acuity to post things online that are annoying and they're hard to fire. Teachers they get tenure, they can say insane things, but if you try to fire them, they get six figure settlements for it. Nurses there's always hospitals always go to a new place. 00:27:26 Speaker 3: Well, that's true about nurses. But the remember that professor at the Nathan Hale School District in Chicago that did the like gesture during the no Kings March. Sure that woman's still employed. Mm, we gotta get her name. I forgot her name, but we we like every so often I tweet about it just to make sure she knows I remember her because it was so obscene. And the fact that she's still around kids. Yeah, so I think he's on. 00:27:55 Speaker 9: The teachers and nurses is because obviously there are someeople who are attracted to it because they actually want help others, and those are the best ones really, no question. 00:28:05 Speaker 6: But there's also a. 00:28:07 Speaker 9: Subset of people who are attracted to those positions because they give you power over others and in both cases, power over people who can't who can't do anything about it. 00:28:20 Speaker 3: You know. 00:28:20 Speaker 6: A patient obviously is inherently going to be somewhat. 00:28:24 Speaker 9: Limited, and a child a child, right, you know, And so it's it's a lot of it has to do with projection, because you look at some of these those people in their personal lives and they're so horrible and like there's you know, these are the people who have like you know, their their apartments are cluttered and filled with the insanity, and they you know, their their personal lives are usually an absolute brain wreck. 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But took him on a vacation to Hawaii, and I was listening to the some people from Texas that were in the pool, just overhearing them, and the young woman, she must have been twenty two something like that was telling this older couple like the reason I got into teaching is because I want to turn them into communists. Like I heard her Yea saying it out loud, and she looked like a total radical leftist floating in a pool enjoying the fruits of capitalism, and she said, yeah, that's why I got into it. 00:30:48 Speaker 7: It's really excitedly talking because he looks like Vlatimer Linen. 00:30:52 Speaker 4: Something like that. But the Blakesheviks, the Nephelene, they're all lining up, all right. Speaking of the Nephelene. Speaking of the Nephelene, I am imposing topic too on us because I am excited for this jad Vance. We talked a lot on the show earlier today about what Vance had to say about Epstein and Israel and a variety of other things. But we need to get into the best part of Vice President Vance's conversation with Joe Rogan, which is when they started talking about aliens and if they are demons. We have a kind of long warm up clip here, but I think it's pretty important to set the stage. We can show some others, but let's just dive into it. Jady Vancy, he gets confronted with are the aliens demons? Clip six? 00:31:36 Speaker 12: You said something that I thought was very odd. Okay, you said that you thought that they were Demonsky. 00:31:45 Speaker 3: Okay, I did say that. 00:31:47 Speaker 12: What did you mean by that? 00:31:48 Speaker 5: Well, I, first of all, they're not just in Christianity, but in a number of world religions, there are a number of of like, you know, mystical things that happened, extra dimensional, extra like. I'm not one of these people who's like a hyper rationalist, Like I think that there are things happening in the world that we're not always seeing, you know, I believe in God. I think that there is a kind of what's what's the word I'm looking for, not extra real, supernatural, supernatural. There are supernatural things that are happening. Okay, so if you look historically at you know, things that are similar to the alien phenomenon, where oh, some like strange being it kind of looks like a human being but doesn't look like but it's not human, and it shows a particular interest in human beings, and then it takes the human beings and you know, like does weird experiments on them. I think my argument is that's either bullshit, right, you're either talking to a crazy person, which I don't like. I'm not saying just because I believe in the super actual doesn't believe me, and I believe in everything supernatural. But if we're talking about an extra terrestrial being that is human like, but not human, that contains effectively infinite powers and his torturing human beings. You can call an alien if you want, but I think there's a lot of historical precedent to call that a demon. 00:33:24 Speaker 4: All right, Well, one while we were listening to that, one of our one of our co hosts, Tyler. He he's disappeared. He may have been left behind. 00:33:34 Speaker 3: They have been abducted. 00:33:37 Speaker 4: Yeah, big beam of light came down. He's gone. 00:33:44 Speaker 7: He's gone. Where'd he go? 00:33:46 Speaker 4: We don't know. He's out. We'll have to get to the bottom of this. But while we wait and investigate and maybe have one of our staffers seek out whether Tyler is still with us or not. What do we make about this? 00:34:00 Speaker 3: We have eyes on Tyler, but kaboos, do we have eyes on Tyler? 00:34:04 Speaker 7: Pretty sure? Tyler? 00:34:05 Speaker 4: Guy's app Oh gosh, he's gone. 00:34:08 Speaker 7: He's gone. 00:34:10 Speaker 3: He's with them. I like to test caboose to make sure he's like on the. 00:34:15 Speaker 6: Wait, can we just like, can we just like get russ in or something like like? This is terrible? 00:34:21 Speaker 4: What's the the light? 00:34:23 Speaker 3: It's too bright? 00:34:24 Speaker 4: Ah, I can't, I can't look at it up? 00:34:27 Speaker 3: Did they did they? 00:34:29 Speaker 4: He's back? Hold on, Hold on, hold on, what happened? 00:34:34 Speaker 6: Do we know? 00:34:35 Speaker 9: Wait a minute, do we know that this is the real Tyler? 00:34:38 Speaker 4: Tell us something only the real Tyler Bowyer would know? 00:34:42 Speaker 3: Did they probe you? Did they probe Tyler? 00:34:45 Speaker 7: If I had an identical twin, how cool that would be to like go in and out. 00:34:50 Speaker 4: That's true, that's the exact code phrase. Tyler said. We had to see if he was abducted by a body snatcher or not. So it's the real Tyler. 00:34:56 Speaker 6: That's funny. 00:34:57 Speaker 4: He disappeared for a bit. 00:34:58 Speaker 7: No, it's funny. I have like one of the most fre gettable faces. People like can never remember me ever. 00:35:03 Speaker 4: Ever careful with that one. But anyway, now that we have Tyler back, we can probe whether you just got probed in a second. But we just saw jd Vance basically said maybe there are aliens out there. They might be celestial beings of some kind. And that's the vice president of the You know, I agree with his premise on The Biggest Podcast. 00:35:26 Speaker 3: I agree with this premise. You agree, listen? I think, yeah, I think the far more likely scenario than like, you know, flying saucers and like tractor beams is literally just demonic presence so you just have to be a theist to believe that, which I happen to be. 00:35:41 Speaker 7: So I have a question for Jack on the on the intelligence side of things, there are levels, right, so there are things that the president knows that the vice president doesn't know. 00:35:54 Speaker 4: Like whether the atomic bomb exists. 00:35:57 Speaker 7: Right. 00:36:01 Speaker 9: Uh So I mean it's it's levels. Is the wrong way to think about it if you want to be like, I don't know for being toning cheek right now or not, but like it's it's it's not levels, it's it's compartments. 00:36:12 Speaker 6: Right, It's literally like which you. 00:36:15 Speaker 7: Know, So there's some COMPLI. 00:36:18 Speaker 9: Which cup is the ball? It's like, it's not even that, it's like which cup is the ball? 00:36:22 Speaker 6: Under? Right? So it's it's it's it's it's way deeper than that. It's it's this idea. 00:36:27 Speaker 9: That there are offices in one part of the building that are working on one program that nobody else knows about. There could be two or three people who know about that specific reading and who have access to that specific a CCM, and then there'll be people on like like two cubicles away from them that don't even know about it and are working on their other thing. So the idea that the president would even be read in at all, would you know, would only come up if something broached the level of needing uh some type you know, if it if it needing some kind of presidentidential you know, authority you're finding, or really if they got public. 00:37:05 Speaker 6: So the the. 00:37:08 Speaker 9: The way this is like the guy who had the who stole like forty million in gold or with book gold bars from the CIA or something and you know, claimed that he was working on a on a black operation. So it's it's it's it's again. It's just like Russian nesting dolls, one one upon another. And I don't think there's any I don't think there's any one person who actually knows everything the government is doing. 00:37:29 Speaker 4: So so what's interesting with that's like that I'm saying that as a guy who actually tried to like understand how all of this works and went into that world. 00:37:38 Speaker 6: I think that's probably the best way I can put it. 00:37:40 Speaker 4: But what's interesting with vance on Rogan is he I think he throws this out there, maybe thinking this is something that Rogan's going to really agree on, but actually a Rogan pushes back and it's kind of I'm not sure. I follow this, mister Vice's president, this is an interesting clip. Clip seven. 00:37:56 Speaker 3: This could all be bullshit. This could all be fake. That's a possibility. 00:38:00 Speaker 5: But if it's real, is there really a meaningful difference between an angel or a demon and a space alien with super technology? Just to our perception, they would largely just look like the same thing. 00:38:15 Speaker 12: I think we're capable of nuance, and we're capable of understanding that human beings are far more complex and evolved than chimpanzees. And we could imagine a world where if we don't blow ourselves up, and there's not a nuclear bomb and there's not a we don't get hit by an asteroid, if we live another million years, that we would have technology that's indistinguishable. 00:38:39 Speaker 4: From magic, right exactly, that's right. 00:38:43 Speaker 3: I mean we could share demons. 00:38:45 Speaker 12: It just means they're hyper evolved, advanced civilizations from somewhere else. 00:38:52 Speaker 5: And what I'm saying is the perception of those beings to a more simple intelligence, there's not a meaningful there's not a meaningful difference. 00:39:04 Speaker 4: So first, someone in the chat says, Tyler definitely got probed. Second, Kyrie in the chat is a little traumatized because Vice President Vance has said the word BS twice. He's clearly enjoying the slightly less PG atmosphere of going on the Joe Rogan experience. But third just I don't know, it strikes me as really interesting that you have the vice president sort of just wildly speculating on angels and demons and aliens. And I kind of get that it's interesting, although I also maybe this is maybe this is funny duddy of me. 00:39:41 Speaker 7: I don't. 00:39:42 Speaker 4: I don't know if the vice president should be talking about that. It's going to drive a lot of people like, really, Gaga, I think they're gonna be like, what, is he paving the way for them to reveal the aliens to us? Is he paving the way for them to reveal the demons to us? We hear a lot of demon talk these days, and I'm not sure that it's been that good for the right for us to be talking about demons all of the time. That's maybe am I am I alone on this one. Are people pro demon talk? 00:40:11 Speaker 6: I don't, I don't think that. 00:40:15 Speaker 9: I mean, I don't think that it's something that's going to cause like a political issue, if that's what you're saying that like that, like it's going to drive people to be upset or or something like. I just I think it's one of those things that. 00:40:28 Speaker 6: You know that it does. It certainly does very well in the podcast sphere. 00:40:32 Speaker 9: I think it's very interesting, like we're doing right now, and I think it's I think it's something that people have a genuine interest in. 00:40:41 Speaker 6: I don't know, I. 00:40:44 Speaker 9: Don't know if it has any political ramifications, if that's you're asking the question is it because it's more like it's more like and and you know, they're probably a good amount of people in the base that's certainly ru with it. 00:41:00 Speaker 3: Ah, So yeah, the question is the question is is it real? Like is it truthful? And if JD's being truthful, I mean, Blake, I think your point is like, is he gonna rile up a bunch of crazy on the internet and you know, cause him to spiral out of control and we're gonna just skip more crazy conspiratorial nonsense. I don't know that's possible. But what I would say is like, I actually, as somebody who agrees with what he's saying, that the more plausible answer is that there are spiritual beings, whether they are of light or of dark, that sometimes appear to man, and we see that through scripture that angels do appear to man from time to time. And maybe, you know, the higher up in the atmosphere that we have aircraft, the more we're going to do encounter celestial beans. I don't know, but the my point is, like I actually find that to be a more plausible answer. And if that's what he believes the truth, then yeah, but yeah, is it sort of revealing how little we maybe know, you know, maybe he's he's by speculating, he's sort of the big tell is we're clueless about this stuff? Actually, yeah, maybe that's maybe. 00:42:04 Speaker 7: That's Charlie and I have told the story slightly. We alluded to it that we were shared some information at some point that led us to believe that aliens are a real thing. So take that for what it's worth. Right at this point, there's been enough talk about it. I'm a big believer. Trump's probably going to want to go down as the guy before he leaves office that like exposes a lot of truth on the whole aliens very Trumpian, and I would. I mean, look, if you're president, you want to be the guy that's remembered for the rest of human history. I mean, what do you got to lose at that point, right, like get into your eighties, Like who cares? Like you know something. Everybody, the whole world is like pressed up against you telling you that you should. You can't tell everyone because they're not sure what it'll do to the to the markets or whatever. Like he's probably gonna do it. Like so, you know, if this thing is real, which we think it is, and enough people have talked about it, I think there's a really good chance in twenty twenty seven, late or early or mid twenty twenty eight will probably hear something more concrete. Now, the question is what are the repercussions of that if they're so there's there's speculation that there's aliens are real, and there's a lot of different viewpoints of this. Is like they're eight angels, their demons, they're us that have gone outside the time war sure, who. 00:43:37 Speaker 4: Traveled into the past to come back to the present. 00:43:39 Speaker 7: Well, it's like the it's like the interstellar thing, right, which is like they've advanced like five ten thousand years beyond outside you know, and in a different time, and then they've traveled back. And so that's that's part of it. Whatever the answer is, all I know is that I think it hasn't really shook my religion because I do believe kind of what JD Is saying, which is that there's probably some really big thing that involves God where he will make these things known to us as he intends, right, So like I'm a big believer in that, And I think that that's the interesting part about this whole thing, is like whatever happens over the next couple of years, or maybe it doesn't, maybe Trump does. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Trump doesn't want to be the guy that's known forever as the president who unlocks aliens for the world, but I think he is. But I think that that's it. I think at the end of the day, this is really I think people need to consider kind of along the lines of what Jad's saying, and I think that that's actually maybe a soft approach so that the world doesn't freak out. 00:44:53 Speaker 3: For nearly three thousand years, Homer's the Odyssey has shaped Western imagination. It tells the story of Odysseus as he faces monsters, shipwrecks, false comforts, and impossible choices on his long journey home. As one of the foundational works of Western literature. Homer's Epic is more than a mythology. It explores permanent questions about courage, duty, loyalty, family, leadership, temptation, and the search for home. In one of the epic's defining moments, Odysseus rejects the offer of immortality from the goddess Calypso, choosing instead the long and difficult journey home. 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He brings up some interesting points, and his whole position is basically speculating whether or not there were aliens or you know, time traveling humans that went back in time and helped them become far more advanced, and then there was some great cataclysmic apocalypse, whether it be weather related or a comet or something that essentially stopped them in their tracks. And it's taken this long for human civilization to now advance up to that point and pasted it. But it's what a lot of people believe, and I think that's what Joe Rogan is kind of speculating. By the way Joe Rogan when he starts talking about this stuff, it was like you could instantly see that jd vance entered into Joe Rogan's wheelhouse and he's like, son, let me tell you about all of the UFO specialists that I've had on the show. He had like some very very authoritative statements there that he made, but I don't know. I the point is time traveling humans, aliens, angels or demons. I mean, now that I think about it, the more I'm listening to what Jad said, it kind of made me feel like he's convinced there's something there that he's he's seen something, uh, and that that's actually the weirder take. Like I felt, I feel like listening back to that he sees something. 00:47:54 Speaker 4: My hot take here, my hot take here, and I emphatically believe it is we may get our government to come out and confirm that aliens are real. And yeah, as you said twenty seven, twenty eight, maybe some future year after that, but it's not going to be because they are real. It's just going to be because we have too many people in government who drink the kool aid and get bamboozled by this stuff. I think that's what it's gonna be. I think none of this evidence has ever held up. People are just are just going loopy. There was that clip they published just a few days ago that looked weird, and then someone pointed out it looked like it was stretched horizontally and as soon as you compressed it a little bit to be more normal looking, like with its pixels, it just looks like a bunch of balloons floating through the air. I just feel like that's what it is every single time. Well for people really want to believe, and so they're just gonna be like, oh, it's real. 00:48:42 Speaker 9: Yeah, So Blake, I'll just say this that I agree with you that most of the evidence that's come out it does not seem very familiar to me. And that so I was on Air Force one when Peter Doozy asked the President that question about the UFO, And you know, I've been with the President when I could tell when there's something that sort of excites him. I could tell there's something that like, it's a question he's into. There's people who think that he's like this, you know, opaque, impossible to read guy, and I actually have the totally opposite view. I think he's pretty open about where he stands on things, and he's local obviously on omhere he stands. And it just seemed like a question that or a topic that he was just not not really that into. It just seemed like something that he was, you know, hadn't given much thought to, and you know, he came up with an answer on the spot, which was a good answer, but it certainly wasn't something that you know. 00:49:41 Speaker 6: He had on the tip of his tongue. 00:49:43 Speaker 9: So I'm just gonna say that, having that firsthand observation, he he did not really seem all that into it, but he said like, hey, you know, if people want these files, you know, sure you know, or at least whatever you want, like, no problem. 00:49:56 Speaker 6: So that's that's just what I remember from being there. 00:49:59 Speaker 7: Somebody up, I think, sorry, go ahead, I put this. I put this in the chat. I think that I want to say what I think, which is I think JD's right. I don't think demons are aliens. I think how we've perceived maybe like angelic figures are aliens. 00:50:22 Speaker 4: And because the aliens are angels or angels are aliens. 00:50:27 Speaker 7: Because there's I mean, there's a lot of different faith points around demons. But some people believe that demons can possess people, but they don't have their own bodies and physical nature, right, That's that's like generally believe. Yeah, that's what I believe is that they never attained the body, but there they exist. 00:50:45 Speaker 6: Yeah, by the way. I don't want to. 00:50:46 Speaker 9: I want to say, even though I had that experience with the President, I don't disagree with anything you're saying at all. 00:50:52 Speaker 7: So so I think so I think demons exist that are aliens, but I think that perceive the angels that have been sent to Earth, which I totally believe has happened biblically, and everything else could be interdimensional. 00:51:09 Speaker 4: That's interesting. I think if I watched The Jesus of Nazareth, that old classic miniseries from the seventies, and if I remember right, that one portrays like the the the Annunciation, when Gabriel comes to Mary, yep, and it portrays him as invisible to others, like Mary can see Gabriel but nobody else. And that's kind of what gets me about this is where they're saying this UFO phenomena like it could be. It could be angels, it could be heavily phenomenon. I guess if our idea of it is that it's supernatural, would it really like show up on our cameras like that. It's just it's just something I don't know. 00:51:54 Speaker 6: I'll just tell you. 00:51:54 Speaker 9: I'll just tell you straight up that most of the stuff that people see over and like I'm I just talked about the Intel community before, Like most of the stuff that you see over the skies is is just new technology that they have not made public yet. That is, that is the vast majority of what's going on. That was the New Jersey stuff. And you know, a lot of this is done in the contract world, so they can come out and say, oh, that's not a you know, those aren't government assets, and it's like, well, yeah, because it's a contractor who has a government contract, right, But it's it's like that's that's mostly. 00:52:25 Speaker 6: What you're seeing is proprietary. 00:52:28 Speaker 3: Well, and this is a really good point. This is a really good point, Jack, because like you think about what's like the B two bomber, Like, isn't that like nineteen eighties technology or whatever? So we're like maybe developing it. Yeah, so so they yeah, what did I say, Yeah, stealth bomber. Anyways, the point is we're so that that's forty year old technology, right, so maybe like forty six year old technology, So we don't even know what they've been developing, Like what's five year old technology? And you know, for example, I had it described by one of these experts they have these allegedly have these these spinning plasma like ships that would be basically what you would think a UFO would look like, right the saucers. And essentially the theory is is that if you spin liquid plasma around at a really fast rate, essentially there's no limitations on g's that the vessel can then pull right so if the thin flows stop start Yeah, and so this is this is a theoretical in theory, it might be quite real actually technology that the US government probably maybe who knows, has and these would be floating objects that could move up and down, side to side, take right angle turns, that sort of thing. And you know, this is stuff that people have developed quite a long ways in the theoretical world, and they theorized that it could actually already exist. So a lot of people if that's true, if this technology does exist and we've had it for some amount of time, then that maybe that's what a lot of this stuff is. 00:54:09 Speaker 4: You just never know, So just throwing this out here because we're talking about this and whether it's modern. Have you guys ever heard of the celestial phenomenon over Nuremberg? 00:54:21 Speaker 6: Yeah? 00:54:21 Speaker 4: No, yeah, have you have you heard of this Andrew, No, this is pretty wild. Throw up that thing I got that. 00:54:27 Speaker 3: I say. 00:54:28 Speaker 6: This is one in fifteen in Russia. 00:54:31 Speaker 4: To hold On, Hold On in fifteen sixty one, so this is before we had modern cameras or anything. Reportedly, many women and men in the city of Nuremberg in Germany, which was one of the biggest cities in Europe at the time, a big happening spot. They saw a aerial battle out of the sun in which a large black triangular object appeared and various spheres began to tumble out of the sky. They allegedly saw hundreds of different colored spheres, cylinders, and other odd shaped objects that moved erratically overhead. And it apparently it was just was just quite the site for everyone, and no one has any idea what it is. And someone wrote it up and published it in a broadsheet back then, and everyone kind of was like, wow, I must have been pretty weird, but we don't know what it was. 00:55:20 Speaker 3: Was there multiple witnesses like that documented this or is it just some Well, it's. 00:55:26 Speaker 4: A broadsheet, so someone wrote it up. At the time, literacy was less common then, so I think we only have one account of it, and so one of one of the takes is basically that this was just someone writing like a tabloid weird thing like guess what happened, guys, Yeah, like super early tabloid the kookie stuff happened. There were blood red strips becoming thicker to the rear and in the front malleable like the rods of reed grass with which they intermingled, and it like describes as us it's too long to read all of it, but the stuff's been going around for a long time. 00:55:59 Speaker 9: Well, can I can I make one more point before before we jump off all of this? And that's that's when it's when Jade Vance brings up spirituality to Rogan, and it's it amazes me that a guy like Rogan, who's, you know, super successful as he is, that he's still clinging to this like very you know, teenage kind of like high school party boy mentality that you know, Oh, I can believe in DMT machine elves, and I can believe in aliens and interdimensional beings. But the minute you bring up anything from the Bible, and and you know they got into it over the Ten Commandments later, you know, the minute you bring up anything from the Bible, you just have to shut it down immediately. And that's actually what I think his you know, sort of knee jerk response was there because he's generally been very hostile to religion. 00:56:49 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's like he was more uncomfortable with the idea of Like, it's really interesting what you're saying. He was more uncomfortable with the idea of angels than he was with the idea of aliens. 00:56:59 Speaker 6: He was like annoyed alien. 00:57:00 Speaker 7: He was like annoyed that like Jible talk into it, and it's like, that's interesting. I don't think any want to pick I don't even think I picked up on that, Jack, because I thought he was just kind of like annoyed with the alien talk, because I think it's I think he I thought maybe he values that as like I think. 00:57:17 Speaker 6: I think it was. I think it was the Bible talk because he did. 00:57:20 Speaker 7: And he didn't want to he didn't want to talk about don't you know. 00:57:23 Speaker 4: It reminds me of how a lot of these sort it was triggering because because he probably realizes that there there may be a grain of truth, there. 00:57:33 Speaker 7: A really important point that's over here. I got forced to sit over on the side of the table I get, I get to make this point. So, uh, I actually have a theory why Joe Rogan never had Charlie on his show, and I think it's totally one hundred percent the face stuff, because he he did not want to discuss the face stuff. He did not want to look stupid discussing the face stuff. 00:57:53 Speaker 3: Isn't he going back to church? 00:57:55 Speaker 7: Maybe, but that doesn't take that doesn't change the fact that he doesn't want to discuss that stuff. And when you have somebody that knows a lot of stuff that may like like you're asking finding questions and it may not be that he'll make him look stupid, but he's like trying to discover on his own or whatever, you know whatever. People aren't different places. I think that that was one of the reasons why he never had Charlie on. But that's just my take. 00:58:19 Speaker 9: I would also I've also and I've said this, and and by the way, this isn't like out of like, you know anything. I've also noticed that in general he doesn't tend to have like Trump supporters on. He's had like like obviously JD and and the President himself one time. But in general, if you're someone who's just really known as a public Trump supporter, like ever ever since you went to Spotify, you're you're not getting on. And obviously there's been episodes of people who were Trump supporters that he had scrubbed and you know it as from twenty sixteen to seventeen and or whenever, you don't make the jump over, and it's it's it's just been something that I've always noted that like, you can be an arts liberal, you can be Democrat, you can be a socialist, but you can be a Neocon, but you cannot. 00:59:07 Speaker 7: Be Maga yep man, which is really interesting. You know, it's like that it's not balanced. There's no balance. 00:59:18 Speaker 9: That's not that's really not balanced, I mean, and that's why that's what always grinded me about him not having Charlie on. 00:59:24 Speaker 6: Not that you know, not. 00:59:27 Speaker 9: From the religious perspective, but it's like, who was more relevant of a pro prompt maga voice in twenty twenty four than Charlie kirk right, or in certainly twenty twenty five. If you win the election and everybody knows that Charlie played this massive role, and like just if you're running a podcast and you want to talk, you want to inform your viewers about what's going on in the world. Wouldn't Charlie Kirk be the obvious person to sit down have a two three hour conversation. 00:59:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just My controversial take is I don't know that I've ever found Rogan's podcast that good on its own. MA Like, he gets really good guests, and so sometimes those guests are going to say very interesting things, and it's very long, so you get a lot of content out of it. But I think Jack is right in the sense that he falls short in term in that specific thing. He should have had Charlie on and he just never did. And there's a lot of people he should have had on, and he has the platform to do it. And we talk about podcasts and new media as a way to get around all the blockades that exist in normal media. And I think he could execute a little bit better on that. I'm gonna say it. Yeah, And well, by the way I actually reached out to I reached out to have other people. 01:00:35 Speaker 6: He had tallerco on, you know, have other people on too. 01:00:38 Speaker 3: It's yeah, hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why REFI You've probably been hearing me talk about why Refi for some time. Now we are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. 01:00:59 Speaker 4: Maybe you're behind on. 01:01:00 Speaker 3: Your payments, maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Why Refi will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America and we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much they owe. Why ref I can help. Just go to y refi dot com. That's the letter why then refi dot com. And remember why Refi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to yrefi dot com and tell them your friend Andrews sent you. Yeah. I reached out to Rogan after Trump won in twenty twenty four because it was kind of like the moment that you know, Charlie and I discussed, like, you know, now's the time to go for some of this stuff, like we did the New York Times profile. I mean, Charlie had had a billion people that wanted a profile, and and we kind of picked and chose what we thought was the best approach there. And I emailed Rogan's people right in that same time period and they instantly, I'll never forget it was like they instantly wrote back. It was like within five minutes I got an email response back and they said, you know, we'll be back in touch, like let us discuss and then I would follow it up like a couple of weeks later and ghost Town. 01:02:26 Speaker 4: So that's how it is with them. Uh, we were going to possibly do this as the last one, but I want to make sure that we get to it. And I think this is going to be a very fun one. This is something I wanted to do a couple a couple of weeks ago. So it's not one hundred percent breaking news, but I think it's great. We need to talk about Canada, specifically Canada's. 01:02:48 Speaker 3: Suffocating favorite topic. 01:02:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, sat Canada's suffocating need. They're they're made inducing need to be as liberal and woke as possible, otherwise they're not a proper country. Chokes them, They're never a proper country. And so I'm going to challenge each of you because I think this will be a fun game. I'm going to challenge each of you to pronounce the new names that Canada is giving to various entities in Western Canada. So let's put up uh this, put up number thirteen. So this was formerly a street in Vancouver, in British Columbia, it was a formerly Trutch Street. And are you guys able to see this? If not, someone posts it in thought crime so they can get a more up close visual of it. You can. 01:03:36 Speaker 3: You can see it on the white one there. 01:03:39 Speaker 4: What's it? 01:03:39 Speaker 3: Yeah? 01:03:40 Speaker 4: So Trutch Street is officially renamed too, all of that stuff there, Each of you, you're gonna make an attempt and then we're going to play the actual pronunciation of it. Can you see that? 01:03:52 Speaker 3: Tyler? All right? Skimi Matt Medicine Street? 01:04:00 Speaker 6: All right? 01:04:01 Speaker 4: All right, now, no Jack, your turn. Can you see it? Can you pronounce it? 01:04:06 Speaker 6: Oh man? Oh man? Okay, oh man? All right. So I'm just gonna I'm gonna spell this real quick. 01:04:16 Speaker 9: It says s x W M E O K E y E M A s E. 01:04:24 Speaker 4: That's not even an O. That is a theta, which I think is a sound. Also, you should note that the W is not a normal W. It's like an exponent W for some reason. 01:04:36 Speaker 6: Okay, so sex mooke I Massam Street. 01:04:41 Speaker 4: Say it, say it fast Street. Alrighty, all right, so we've got sex smoke guye awesome, we have whatever the heck, Andrews said Tyler. 01:04:51 Speaker 7: I think that s is silent. Could be wrong. I can't. 01:04:57 Speaker 4: I can't for silent. 01:05:01 Speaker 3: May Cas thick. 01:05:05 Speaker 13: Kay man I having on the street what at I'm trying to do the voice from what's his face from that seventies show that. 01:05:17 Speaker 6: My awesome is the end of it? Awesome like awesome like maybe like awesome, alright, awesome street. 01:05:26 Speaker 7: What I'm supposed to be? 01:05:28 Speaker 4: I believe it is in it's one of the like bizarre coastal language. I believe it's a musqueam Indian band and they did it in their language. I've already heard it, so it would be kind of cheating for me to make an attempt, although I have just say it, Uh, you mean Nelson Street. 01:05:54 Speaker 3: We'll go with that, all right, Yeah, I just play this sound. 01:05:57 Speaker 4: Alright, Let's play the sound. Let's play the sound for this street that is number fourteen. 01:06:07 Speaker 2: Must Queum View Street, that's musk was muq awesome. Must Street that is for the first one, must qual you are awesome, musqu awesome. 01:06:29 Speaker 7: I was right. I was right that they say it was for no the A he asked, the little thing over the top of it, if affects the letter. 01:06:39 Speaker 3: But it's a it's a woosh. It's like a it's a woosh. 01:06:42 Speaker 7: The question of what y W is basically, I'm telling you that sounds like that sounds like older Fez from that seventies show. 01:06:51 Speaker 4: Alright, so we have now we have our next. 01:06:55 Speaker 6: And we're not doing this. They're literally stone age languages, and we've moved past this. 01:07:00 Speaker 4: No we have not, because we have another one. This is a library in Brandon. Throw out number fifteen the b roll. Let's let's make an attempt at this one. This one has the Okay, you're gonna have to see, I'm gonna I'm gonna paste the letters for it in thought crime thing because it's just a it's an image of it there that is the so and so library. So I can't read that so far away z W I the number seven x W A library. 01:07:28 Speaker 7: Can we can we zoom man. 01:07:29 Speaker 6: At least that's a password. That's not really a pastor, that's a that's a passwords. 01:07:36 Speaker 4: Sweet squa, Hang, you're gonna say what I have to the chat, sweet squaw, Sweet squaw. That's how you're saying squa. 01:07:43 Speaker 6: It's not even I'm just gonna do it with like I'm gonna do it. 01:07:46 Speaker 3: There's a seven in there. 01:07:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a seven in it. There's seven in it. 01:07:52 Speaker 3: He's got seven squad. 01:07:53 Speaker 7: Like, I feel like I feel like I'm being tricked and just saying like a really bad word in a foreign language right now? 01:07:59 Speaker 3: Are we gonna get? Are we gonna get? Are you going to tell us you're. 01:08:05 Speaker 7: Just I feel like I'm going to get clipped up like I did with Taylor Swifties yea, the Swifties again with someone from like, but you. 01:08:12 Speaker 4: Have to make your attemt you have to. They've made their attempt. You have to say how you're gonna say it now. 01:08:17 Speaker 7: I think I agree. 01:08:18 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna lean all into their dumb spelling and I'm going to pronounce it weep seven sgua weep sevens. I'm just going to pronounce out the seven. They put a stupid seven in it. We're going to get seven alrighty are you getting shut up? I can pronounce it how I want and we're going to play. All right. This is someone pronouncing it in like an academic lecture. Let's play clip sixteen. 01:08:45 Speaker 9: Today's session is called using who who has research guides what they are and how we use them? 01:08:50 Speaker 2: Who was? 01:08:51 Speaker 6: Who was? 01:08:52 Speaker 12: Who was? 01:08:52 Speaker 1: Who was? 01:08:53 Speaker 2: Who was? 01:08:54 Speaker 6: Research guides what they are and how we use them. 01:08:57 Speaker 7: Sounds like a bad word. 01:08:58 Speaker 3: That was right? Seven? Seven? 01:09:02 Speaker 7: Jack got pretty closely. 01:09:04 Speaker 4: It was a little more gary, I think like, but it was very close. I would say, all right, we have one last one? 01:09:10 Speaker 7: Sounds like that's that sounds like an old lady already we have we have. 01:09:14 Speaker 4: Our last one. We have our last one. You can throw up seventeen and it's that court so uh it's got like a question mark in it. Throw up seventeen's b roll and uh it's Nicola Matt. Oh did they play already or was that Jack there? 01:09:36 Speaker 3: That was me? 01:09:36 Speaker 4: All right? You said to pronounce it, how to pronounce it? 01:09:41 Speaker 6: Right there? 01:09:44 Speaker 4: Are they blowing it? Are they blowing it right there? 01:09:46 Speaker 3: Oh? 01:09:46 Speaker 4: That's too bad. Oh, well, let's hear it. I want to hear it anyway. Alrighty well, we'll hear it anyway. See naha mash. I like, in fact, I think I prefer that to whatever the official one is. But let's hear what the official one is. 01:10:06 Speaker 6: Eighteen nuts a mott, nuts a mott, nuts a mott. 01:10:13 Speaker 4: It's really bothering. Where are they getting that in the last one. It's like, it looks like Matt, but they just add like, not a question. 01:10:22 Speaker 7: That's a sickle. 01:10:23 Speaker 4: Sickle. It's like a question mark with my dog, not somets. So we got I've already forgotten how they said that first street name. 01:10:33 Speaker 3: Like for those who've never hung out with Jack in uh private uh he does this voice sometimes it's great. It's just like classic Jack. 01:10:42 Speaker 4: Alright, I'm so glad we got to do that. And the first people of Canada, the first nations of Canada, are naming all these things that I'm seven's and sickles and embedded. 01:10:57 Speaker 3: I got an inquiry. I got an in query from somebody, and I forget which outlet it was from, but it was like his turning point. Weighed in on the Albertan I think they're doing some sort of vote to break away from Canada. I was like, well, I've heard Tyler bring this up before. I mean, it's pretty conservative province as far as Canada goes, right, Alberta, It's crazy. 01:11:24 Speaker 9: I'm going to be their number and I will respond entirely in the First Nations voice. 01:11:31 Speaker 4: Oh boy, I am convinced. People get hyped about this. But one America outline, America's outline as a country, like if we had a silhouette would look really stupid if we added Alberta, we have like, yeah, we have this big dumb polygon jutting out of our nice American silhouettes. So that would annoy me. And two, I am convinced. Unfortunately, people talk about how it would be this like new red state. I'm convinced Alberta would be a blue state in US politics because remember, first of all, it's Canada, so they have multiple parties. So you have their conservative part nationally and then the Liberal Democrat party, and they have the Liberals and they also have the Greens, and the Greens are getting a few percent. And if you suddenly just shove that into Republican Democrat US politics, there are conservatives in Canada, who would be democrats in the US, as is common in these countries, And so we have that, and I don't know. I'm not confident about it. 01:12:24 Speaker 3: Blake true or false. Canada is a little gay. 01:12:28 Speaker 4: False Canada is extremely gay. 01:12:31 Speaker 6: I would say double Canada does not exist. 01:12:38 Speaker 3: If you could go back in time and buy oil before the world relied on it, would you? Of course you would. Anybody would. So why aren't you buying silver right now? The people who recognized oil early didn't just make money, They got ahead of one of the biggest economic shifts in history. And today a similar opportunity is unfolding with silver. 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We're kind of We're just gonna ask which of us is going to take the plunge and is going to watch the Odyssey so we can discuss next week whether the Odyssey was actually good or not? And the answer is whit. 01:13:57 Speaker 6: I haven't watched Supergirl? 01:13:59 Speaker 4: You have any watched Souper yet? Okay, well I did watch back take on Supergirl. I will confess this is barely even a discussion because I me, I am going to see the Odyssey. I've got to see the They made a movie out of the Odyssey with like a three hundred trillion dollar budget, and I feel obliged to support a movie that is not Supervis, not Marvel Slaughter. 01:14:19 Speaker 9: Here's my one. I didn't pay for it. No, here's my here's my one. My one take on the Odyssey is that it is not a film. It is a religious test for wokeness. You must accept this. Helen of Troy. Helen of Troy was not a blonde haired, blue eyed maiden. Helen of Troy looked like this, you must have not accept Achilles as the greatest warrior of all time. This is Achilles. You must accept this. What it is is a religious test. And by the way, I've like in the UK, been hearing people talk about how excited they are for and like they're like honestly saying how much they think it's going to be. 01:15:04 Speaker 6: This great movie. 01:15:05 Speaker 9: That's just what I'm around folks, not at like the Sepac and just the kind of around town coffee shop or whatever we like. And I'm like they're serious, like they they they're actually just going along with this religion because that's what it obviously is. 01:15:17 Speaker 6: It's so absurd. It's obviously an item of religious faith. That's what it is. This is a religious test. 01:15:23 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if it's all that and everything. I mean, you should play that. Let's play the trailer. Let's play the troil that part, okay. So I agree So with Ellen Page, like I don't even sign on or whatever. I thought this is going to be. The trailer was going to come off differently, but let me and we can talk about said, well, isn't that Zendaia or whatever? 01:15:49 Speaker 4: No, never mind, I don't think we have the audio version, which is good because it's like a three minute trailer. 01:15:55 Speaker 3: This we do? Do we? I think we do? Oh? Okay, yeah, we do have the audiover It's hold on, I got it. We have it. I saw it in the chat. Nobody's bailing me out, so I'm just kidding. 01:16:07 Speaker 6: It's oh wait, no, they're saying, doesn't have audio. 01:16:10 Speaker 4: It doesn't have audio? Do you have? We do have As the next best thing, we have the actor rapping about it. We have the actors rapping about the Odyssey. You guys want to watch that? That sounds more appropriate anyway. 01:16:21 Speaker 3: Thirty three. 01:16:24 Speaker 8: Osseous Telemachus, Penelope, Odysseus. 01:16:29 Speaker 7: Penelope and Helen of after the Iliad won the war. 01:16:34 Speaker 3: I'm serious. 01:16:37 Speaker 7: Peloponnesian Peninsula, Mediterranean and crater Is Cranium. 01:16:45 Speaker 6: On the road to. 01:16:46 Speaker 8: Where Odysseus, Penelope and Helen. 01:16:50 Speaker 4: Could be home. The way we go over. 01:16:52 Speaker 6: The story in six feet. 01:16:56 Speaker 3: So long as this beat sounds on starns and suitors and you and. 01:17:01 Speaker 2: So much on the moors and generous. 01:17:04 Speaker 7: To defeat that tell music, that hero who's traveled so far and so wide and his. 01:17:10 Speaker 4: Music, who's got to be tired because of odyssey. I will say, if that was like some sort of thing that someone made in twenty and ten with like a like a low cartoon, I'd have dug it. But there's something different when they got all of these twenty million dollars for a bit part actors in this to show up and do that, and this. 01:17:40 Speaker 6: Felt definitely like a Saturday Night live bit. That that literally felt like a suren live bit. 01:17:44 Speaker 9: But again again, you if you speak ill of this, if you say, how dare you put you know, Lupete and Yongo as the face that launched a thousand ships, then then you are. 01:18:01 Speaker 4: You mean if you speak ill of this odyssey us I think that rhymes jack, it could be. 01:18:09 Speaker 7: Yes, you can have I'm doing it. 01:18:12 Speaker 6: What I hate Christopher Nolan? 01:18:14 Speaker 2: Do? 01:18:14 Speaker 6: Oh no? 01:18:17 Speaker 3: Why do you hate Christopher Nolan? I'm just curious. 01:18:19 Speaker 6: Because he sucks. That's rye. 01:18:21 Speaker 3: I liked. 01:18:21 Speaker 4: I liked The Dark Knight. 01:18:23 Speaker 7: We had this whole conversation about all the good stuff. 01:18:29 Speaker 6: But I bet don't know, Okay, I did like Dunkirk. 01:18:31 Speaker 3: Alright, I like Dunkirk was good. Yeah. Anyways, like the big so what's the bigger controversy here? What's the bigger controversy? Is it the fact that Helena Troy is black or that, uh el Ellen Page Elliott Page is in this film, like the trans thing? 01:18:53 Speaker 4: What annoys me about Ellen? I think what annoys me about Page in the movie is there is literally a transgender character in the Odyssey. Really, yes, the sage Tyresius, No you say, you say, the sage Tyresius, who's like a fortune teller sees the future in the Odyssey, he is in the underworld, I believe, and he is a male who has turned into a woman by the god Apollo as punishment for something or other, and like they ask him questions about this. Uh, like that is an actual thing in the poem that Tyresius there was a man was turned into a woman. So like, if you literally wanted to have a transgender character in your movie adaptation of an epic film, you actually could do it this time. And instead they had Elliott Page be this like Greek warrior who runs like a girl. 01:19:43 Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm gonna interject here, doesn't Athena also disguise herself as a man for to travel with Telemachus. 01:19:50 Speaker 9: It's not the same as trans that's none of these. None of these are the same as trands Man. 01:19:58 Speaker 3: Again, Elliott Ellen ellen Page had top surgery. As these pictures these very graphic. 01:20:05 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's not like it's. 01:20:08 Speaker 7: Something so gross. It's so unfortunate, du because she was like a cute little gut ribber juno. Like it was like she was just like she was its great, she was. 01:20:19 Speaker 9: Don't don't It was like a very pro like, Okay, don't don't bring that up because it hurts too much, Tyler, it hurts too much in my soul and in my heart. 01:20:27 Speaker 6: And I don't do that. 01:20:29 Speaker 7: Like and coms a little song they play at the end, and I just can't do it. 01:20:36 Speaker 6: Man. 01:20:36 Speaker 7: I mean they just ruined. I mean they ruined everybody. And you you see how like and again, Hollywood just does a lot of this to a lot of people. I mean, they're just they're so screwed up. And yeah, there's a reason for it, and there's things that are there, and it's it's just, uh, it's just unfortunately part of our culture in American Abbey that's just it's Hollywood has just destroyed it. 01:20:57 Speaker 3: And and we're all having this fits the reaction against it. 01:21:04 Speaker 9: She's talked about being sexually abused in Hollywood as a teenager, so she had she had talked about literally being the victim of grooming and sexual abuse by men and a woman and you know a number of things, and so that it's you know, it's it's it's something where it's just like, you know, like what like what what actually went on there? And this is this is clearly just someone who's undergone a serious amount of trauma. 01:21:35 Speaker 6: And rather than like like most. 01:21:37 Speaker 9: People who undergo this probably all that, you know, rather than actually help them deal with the issue that they have, they do this whole you know what they call it the like like, oh my gosh, what what's what's I'm super jet like over here. 01:21:55 Speaker 6: When they validate no, it's like when they validate. 01:21:58 Speaker 9: Your validate your your transgenderism and then Nick sign off on everything, and uh yeah, libiy Emmonds would kill me for not knowing it. But it's it's you know, when the gender firming thank you, gender firming care, gender firming care, and as opposed to actually like trying to just help somebody who's obviously undergoing something pretty horrible. 01:22:21 Speaker 4: You know, I'm I don't think I'm gonna see it. You're not gonna immediately if everybody tells me it's so good, Like if Blake comes back and he's like it was actually really good, like I might go see it. But if Blake comes back and be like, yeah, I don't see it, I'm definitely I'm definitely not. 01:22:36 Speaker 9: Matt Damon as Matt Damon as Odysseus actually isn't that bad of a casting. And I'm kind of surprised that I actually didn't realize that until I saw the trailer here, because I'm like, oh, that's actually pretty good casting. Yeah, yeah, so much. 01:22:50 Speaker 4: So all away for it is just gonna annoy me. Like I could see it being eighty five percent good, and then it will just really annoy me that they did these completely unnecessary like you know, it's like if you watch if you any movie where it's if you're if you're watching some all times, like if they had Saving Private Ryan and then there was like one random scene where like a guy is wrapping in it or something, it would be you'd probably still like the movie. But everyone would go why was there that one scene there? It just seemed really out of place and brought the movie down a little bit. 01:23:23 Speaker 9: Oh man, I was a someone just pops up and is like, it's like Himmler Rammel. 01:23:31 Speaker 4: Can't think of any there on the spot. But that's okay, it's okay. 01:23:37 Speaker 3: This has been fun Blake. This is this is what Blake needs to do with his life now. He needs to do bad movie reviews. And it's gonna be his it's gonna be his sp it's gonna be his social media specialty where Blake does bad movie reviews. So that's next, Blake. So and on that note, Jack take us home just like a. 01:23:58 Speaker 9: Dies and gentlemen as always go out there and commit more thought crime. 01:24:08 Speaker 4: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com