THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 134 — Batman Goes Shopping? He-Man and the Masters of the Culture War?

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Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegold investments dot Com. That is Noblegoldinvestments dot Com. 00:01:17 Speaker 7: All right, guys, we're here another thought crime Thursday is upon us. 00:01:23 Speaker 4: What's up, gang, what's up? 00:01:24 Speaker 3: What's up? 00:01:24 Speaker 6: It's up? 00:01:25 Speaker 5: Jack, crimes are flitting through my mind all the time. 00:01:29 Speaker 7: All right, we got we got Russ, we got Andrew, we got Blake, we got Posts. So here I've got my my Philadelphia background. Also with my wah wah two fifty shirt. 00:01:40 Speaker 4: Look at this. 00:01:40 Speaker 7: We got Philly Skyline. We got wah wah two fifty. Just pick this up. 00:01:44 Speaker 4: It's gonna be a hot commodity. 00:01:46 Speaker 7: I'm gonna pass this on to my children at one point, you know, they steal it from me, probably a week from now. 00:01:54 Speaker 8: You know what's interesting, Jack, is that we've got the BUCkies fan. You know, all this Europeans coming over discovering BUCkies. We've got bass pro shops. I have seen zero foreign love for wah wah. 00:02:07 Speaker 6: What's that about? 00:02:07 Speaker 5: Are they playing any games in Philadelphia? 00:02:10 Speaker 4: They did? 00:02:11 Speaker 7: Actually, they just had a game in Philadelphia last week. 00:02:15 Speaker 4: Shoot was it? I think it was like Brazil or something. 00:02:17 Speaker 7: And I think it's because there weren't any European teams that were playing in Philadelphia though, So Freddie came across Pennsylvania, but he was like going across the northern tier to get to New York, so he wasn't anywhere in like what I referred to as the wah Wah Republic, if you will, which begins in actually in North Jersey and then goes all the way down to about Richmond, although Philadelphia is of course the capitol. 00:02:43 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:02:43 Speaker 9: I think in general, even if the Europeans haven't discovered Huahwah, I am, the fact that you've got. 00:02:49 Speaker 5: Your two fifty wah Wah shirt. 00:02:51 Speaker 9: It does get me thinking about the share of American patriotic pride that is being generated by high quality gas stations at this point, because buck is a thing that we're genuinely celebrating and bragging about as Europeans encounter it. And I know a lot of people were getting to kick the Japanese got here and they went to seven eleven in America and they were thinking, Oh, it's so amazing to have this authentic product of Japan here in America, the seven to eleven. 00:03:19 Speaker 10: And then we've got that, We've got the cult following of like Kirkland, the Costco brand. 00:03:25 Speaker 5: Oh is that are they discovering Kirkland. Now she's just like Kirkland is the whole thing now. 00:03:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is also really funny. 00:03:31 Speaker 9: Is that one of those things where we just think of Costco as normal, decent products. And then there's probably Europeans or Chinese people who get Kirkland exported to their country and they charge it at a three times markup. 00:03:42 Speaker 5: These do that with peraps blue ribbon. 00:03:45 Speaker 7: I just I literally just pulled this up to fact check and I found I did find a TikTok that is that that loves the wahlah. I just found it. 00:03:55 Speaker 3: Well, there you go. 00:03:57 Speaker 6: He got one jag that's got decent engagement. Admittedly. 00:04:03 Speaker 7: Well and this of course because we're not we're not really big on. 00:04:07 Speaker 4: On the dude, this this one on TikTok. I just it's five hundred thousand views. 00:04:11 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it's not bad. 00:04:12 Speaker 4: I love the TikTok. 00:04:14 Speaker 8: But wait, hold on this whole the whole point of this is that you get Philly cheese steak. 00:04:19 Speaker 6: Do you agree with I mean, I don't know, do you agree with that? 00:04:22 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:04:22 Speaker 7: So that's that's kind of like, look, you know, I appreciate it, but but but here, so there's a French guy who went, I guess to to Philadelphia, who said they were recommended. He got a little mixed up. He got a little mixed up. Right, he's French. You know, we're not gonna hold to him. But he said that he wanted the cheese steak, and then someone had mentioned wah Wah, so he got mixed up and thought that he meant. 00:04:47 Speaker 4: That he should get a cheese steak. 00:04:49 Speaker 7: At wah Wah, which I mean, guys, like, let's let's be serious, you could do a lot better. 00:04:55 Speaker 3: That's one. 00:04:57 Speaker 9: At that point, don't even Yeah, it kind of is. If he got the famous sandwich, he can tell us he seems very happy I got the Wahwa cheese steak, and also he seemed this is gonna be a of mine. Cheese steaks are basic enough sandwich. I don't think it matters too much where you get one, dude, I got. 00:05:19 Speaker 7: Actually no, no, I actually agree that. I think like for a lot of like the overweight foodies out there. 00:05:26 Speaker 11: They do this whole like, oh, you've got to go to what in North Philly that's in like a hole in the wall that's served out of a bucket. But that's the perfect one. And they're like, no, no, that's the red bucket. You have to go to South Philly for the one out of the blue bucket. 00:05:40 Speaker 7: And you're like, if you're if you're getting an authentic Philly cheese steak anywhere in the city or like like South Jersey or there's a lot of Philly crossover, you're gonna be fine. 00:05:50 Speaker 4: You're gonna be absolutely fine. They're all good. 00:05:54 Speaker 7: What you don't want to get is something where people call it a Philly cheese steak. 00:05:59 Speaker 4: And it's not. 00:06:00 Speaker 7: It's just very obviously not a Philly cheese steak where they like layer like rot. I've seen people come, you know, say that they're gonna give me a Philly cheese steak and I get something that has like roast beef on it, and I'm like, what is this? 00:06:12 Speaker 4: Like, this is not a cheese steak in any way, shape or form. 00:06:15 Speaker 7: So it's like, as long as you actually understand what you're supposed to be making, you're fine, you. 00:06:19 Speaker 9: Know, speaking, I think this is a total lot of left field. But it's a thought crime that just came to me because you said that, I have a real thought crime for you that is very culinary when it comes to roast beef, I prefer fast food roast beef like Arby's style roast beef over what you'd likely get at a nice restaurant with like the thicker pieces of beef like I actually really like the weird thin slices of beef that are standard and fast food with sandwiches. So much so that when I was most recently in South Dakota for a blast from the past, I went to the Hartis that I went to as a kid, and I got one of them and it was delicious. 00:06:58 Speaker 5: There you go, It's way better than restaurant roast jack. 00:07:01 Speaker 3: I have a. 00:07:02 Speaker 8: I have a I have a I have a bigger question for the group here. It's off the topic list, But say Mexico won the World Cup, do you think that they would riot and burn down our cities in celebration. 00:07:15 Speaker 4: You mean the Mexicans that live here illegally. 00:07:20 Speaker 6: And legally, the Moroccans in the Netherlands. I think it. 00:07:24 Speaker 8: Some of them are like third generation and they're still rioting. They're still burning down that country. 00:07:29 Speaker 4: All of all of California would be engulfed. 00:07:33 Speaker 9: I think Mexico they would probably shall not win the World Cup, riot I don't think have they done that. 00:07:38 Speaker 5: Do Mexicans really. 00:07:39 Speaker 9: Like Ryot or Hispanic areas riot over sports stuff? 00:07:43 Speaker 5: They New York, they're not animals. Well, I don't know. 00:07:48 Speaker 9: I think they'll be fine. I don't it will be interesting. I think Mexico is underrated here because this game that they're playing today and if they win it, their next one, they're both played in Mexico City, and Mexico City is higher up than Denver. It's like seventy five hundred feet in the air. That is, you have like one third less oxygen in every breath than you would normally. I just think a lot of these players, they're going to go to Mexico City and they're gonna be super tired, and then Mexico will slip one goal pass them. 00:08:17 Speaker 3: And it's Ecuador, true, so it's pretty high. 00:08:24 Speaker 9: Ecuador is also high, but their players are not from the high part of Ecuador. All the players for Ecuador are from This is crazy. I've been reading Steve Sailor posts about this. Almost all are a lot of the Ecuador players, over half of them are from one small part of Ecuador that only has three percent of the people. So it'd be like if all of America's players came from like Alabama or something, and because it's that has like a high black population, so they're all really athletic there. 00:08:51 Speaker 5: But they're not from the highlands. 00:08:53 Speaker 9: So so other than when they play national team games in keto, they're not actually playing at a high altitude the way Mexico is. 00:09:03 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of something. 00:09:04 Speaker 7: Wasn't there another like some kind of sport where it's like all the Olympians that have won, or from like a certain you know, one square of Europe or something like that. 00:09:15 Speaker 4: Do you remember you know what I'm talking about? 00:09:17 Speaker 5: It all, I'm not sure about that. I do know that I'm really good. 00:09:21 Speaker 9: Kenya has great long distance runners, but it's even more specific than that. 00:09:24 Speaker 5: It's from like one tribe in one small part of Kenya. 00:09:29 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, oh gosh, I'm being assaulted. 00:09:32 Speaker 7: I'm being assaulted by whoa by by a Phillies fan here. 00:09:42 Speaker 6: Over here too. 00:09:44 Speaker 4: We got an fan over here too. 00:09:46 Speaker 7: All right, Well, well guys, guys, if I can, if I can, you know, I know this is on our subject list and these guys are not planning to be here today, but they got in. I have a question, what did you guys? We we watched The Toy Story and he Man this weekend, right right right? And which movie did you guys like better? 00:10:11 Speaker 4: Why? Because it's better because it's mere style, because it's man style. 00:10:17 Speaker 3: Yes? 00:10:18 Speaker 4: And what does he Man say? 00:10:21 Speaker 5: I have the power? 00:10:24 Speaker 4: Oh? I have the power? 00:10:27 Speaker 7: And a j Are you grabbing stuff that's like swords and saying I have the power? 00:10:31 Speaker 4: Yes? Yes, you like that like like sticks or anything? 00:10:35 Speaker 6: Yes? 00:10:35 Speaker 4: All right, get out of here. 00:10:36 Speaker 7: Okay, thank you, good work, guys, He's got the power. Oh I get out too, all right, I will soon. 00:10:42 Speaker 6: Wait. 00:10:43 Speaker 8: The question though, is Jack, does Europe have enough power to run it's ac? 00:10:49 Speaker 4: Oh? Oh all right? Why? 00:10:52 Speaker 5: I don't know if you want to switch. That was the most aggressive and I was going to just have not even mad. 00:11:03 Speaker 7: But but if you want to go back to the AC thing, we can do that as well, because I want to know, guys. 00:11:08 Speaker 4: I mean, you know we're going to hit with the heat wave. 00:11:13 Speaker 7: I don't know, Russ, you would I feel like we should hit the he Man thing because they just said it. 00:11:18 Speaker 5: Yeah all right, yeah, I We'll have to do he Man first, he said to the AC question. 00:11:22 Speaker 4: He just said it. He just said it. 00:11:23 Speaker 9: So I respect the pivot. That was an all time or pivot. It was stupid, that was worthy of the power of grace. 00:11:30 Speaker 4: We'll get there. We will get there. 00:11:32 Speaker 9: Did I say that right? I never watched he Man as a kid. That full confession. I think this is one of those things where tiny differences in age make a huge difference. So, Jack, I know that you're what a couple of years older than me, and I guess this must mean you're a vastly bigger he Man fan than I am. 00:11:49 Speaker 5: I never saw I would honestly say. 00:11:52 Speaker 4: I would honestly say, like, you're right on the age question. 00:11:55 Speaker 7: That being said, though, I was, you know, I was familiar with the he Man toys as a kid. 00:12:01 Speaker 4: I did not really watch the he Man show as a kid. 00:12:05 Speaker 8: It was quite familiarly, I actually think you have to be older than Jack and I to have appreciated he. 00:12:10 Speaker 7: It's like it's Jen was the core my brother or he Man was jen X and I am not gen X. 00:12:16 Speaker 8: Yeah, my brother is like five years older than me and he watched he Man. 00:12:20 Speaker 5: So that's kind of like I don't even think I saw that. 00:12:22 Speaker 6: But I had the toys, I had the toys. 00:12:25 Speaker 9: I never saw the toys toys, but I think I were like leftover toys. I think the only thing heard of he Man was I would read I went through that phase as a kid, or I read Dave Barry books, like Dave Barry humor books, and he has columns he wrote about his son playing with he Man toys and explaining this is he Man, this is men at arms, this is these other guys. And I remember reading that and not being sure if this was real or just something Dave actually was making up. 00:12:54 Speaker 7: Actually funny enough is Tom Wolfe also brings up he Man a lot in Bonfire the Vanities, like He's he's referring to himself as yeah, yeah, it's because well the phrase master of the universe, and it's like the main character referred to the guy who's like a he's like a Bond trader. He's like, I'm a master of the universe, like he Man, like my kid's toys, I'm a master of the universe. 00:13:14 Speaker 9: That's what that's literally what it actually comes from. 00:13:18 Speaker 7: That's what masters the Universe comes from. Yes, it's a he Man reference, and he says something about like kids. 00:13:23 Speaker 8: We should we should place them in the clips because I feel like explain what. 00:13:26 Speaker 10: We're talking about is Yeah, clips six is probably a good place to start. 00:13:33 Speaker 4: This is a new movie. Oh no, there's the old one. There's the old one, okay. 00:13:39 Speaker 12: And the Masters of the Universe. I am Adam, Prince of Eornia, defender of the Secrets of Castle Grace com This is Cringer, my fearless friend. Fabulous secret powers will reveal to me the day I held aloft my magic sword and said, by the power, Fringer became the Mighty battle Cat and I became a man, the. 00:14:20 Speaker 4: Most powerful man in the universe. 00:14:26 Speaker 12: Only three others share this secret. Our friends, the Sorceress Arms and our go together we defend Castle Grayskull from the evil forces of Skeleton. 00:14:44 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm looking. 00:14:45 Speaker 9: I literally dug out the PDF of Bonfire of the Vanities while we watched that clip, and it says The Masters of the Universe were a set of lurid, rapacious plastic dolls that Sherman the boys otherwise perfect Daughter liked to play with. They looked like goods, lifted weights, and they had names such as dracon ahor mangle Red and Blue tong. They are unusually vulgar even for plastic toys. And yet one day, bit of euphoria, he had picked up the telephone and taken an order for zero coupon bonds that had brought him a fifty thousand dollars commission, And just like that, the phrase bubbled into his head. 00:15:24 Speaker 5: I am a master of the universe. 00:15:27 Speaker 7: Yeah, and so like McCoy is saying that like throughout the novel, Yeah. 00:15:31 Speaker 5: Yeah, it does. 00:15:31 Speaker 9: But I just love that description of the choices. Are those actually even he man characters? Dracon bluetong are those I think? 00:15:38 Speaker 7: No, I think that might be like you know, and then this is like classic tumb wolf. That might be like what McCoy's daughter called them, But that's not what they're actually called. 00:15:48 Speaker 9: Apparently, blue tongue is a viral disease that ruminant species can get. 00:15:52 Speaker 4: Uh. Let's Let's. 00:15:57 Speaker 8: Independence Day is the perfect time to talk about something we all care about, and that's freedom, and yes that includes medical freedom. Our good friends and sponsors, all Family Pharmacy. They're running one of their biggest sales of the year from July first through July seventh. It's buy one, get one free on ivermectincapsules. Ivermectin cream and others. If you believe in being prepared, this is a great opportunity to stock up and save. They make the process super simple. Everything's handled online. They only run sales like this a few times a year, so don't miss it. Go to All Familypharmacy dot com slash Kirk before July seventh. 00:16:34 Speaker 4: All right, well let's let's let's dig in, let's dig other. 00:16:36 Speaker 7: So that was the original he Man. All right, that was the original hem Man. Everybody you know you're probably more familiar with that. And then there's the new movie, which just came out like a week or two ago. I'm gonna try to get this back on track here, and uh, do we want to play that trailer as well? 00:16:52 Speaker 3: Yes? 00:16:53 Speaker 4: Soon, all right, let's do it. 00:16:55 Speaker 7: So that was eighty eight, the nineteen eighty show, and this is the new the new film which just dropped tween three. 00:17:02 Speaker 4: I was just dropped a month ago. Never take. 00:17:06 Speaker 13: I know most of you don't remember me, but I know all of you. Even though I was stuck light years away. 00:17:28 Speaker 4: Under notice, Battlecat replaces the Lion, never stopped trying to get back home. 00:17:37 Speaker 8: Everything changed since you left. 00:17:43 Speaker 13: Scott of my family I mean he destroyed. Oh whoa, that's my fault. 00:17:59 Speaker 12: I know. 00:18:00 Speaker 13: Wow, it feels to fail. 00:18:03 Speaker 4: Take the sword and when you fall, that's your chance to stand talk. Well, you need to show quick and must shudder. This is my home. 00:18:44 Speaker 13: I'm gonna fight for them, but I can't do it without being somebody wants to brawl. 00:18:50 Speaker 5: I need every man, woman or whatever that is. 00:19:12 Speaker 4: Were you're too scared to use it, trust me and not to use it. 00:19:26 Speaker 14: You tell everyone that you're from another planet. It just makes you sound a little very crazy. 00:19:39 Speaker 9: Okay, Jack, I'm gonna I'm gonna say a few sayings being brutally honest here. First of all, I saw that trailer in theaters a few months ago, and it is the first time I ever saw a movie and immediately googled on my phone. Yes, I pulled up my phone and google during the previews, did they make this movie using AI? 00:19:55 Speaker 5: Because it looks very AI. 00:19:58 Speaker 3: The trailers did not do this movie any help like. 00:20:01 Speaker 9: Also, it's a little weird because it's it seems like they're saying this is the rise of he Man, so it's his origin story, but it seems like, yeah. 00:20:07 Speaker 4: It's like an organ. It's like a prequel, like like it's an origin story, like a reboot. 00:20:11 Speaker 9: But at the start, he's already like he's like X he Man. He has amnesia and he's working as an accountant in New York or something. 00:20:18 Speaker 10: He gets teleported from yeah story to Earth and then he grows up on Earth. 00:20:25 Speaker 6: What's the thought crime? 00:20:26 Speaker 1: Here? 00:20:27 Speaker 6: Out where? 00:20:27 Speaker 7: The so so here's here's the thought crime this, This is why I wanted to bring up as a thought crime. And I've written and I'm not even going to get into reviewing, like whether it's a good movie or like it. The movie's got issues, Like I'm not even going to say that it's like the perfect movie or something. Music is actually really cool if you hear that guitar. The reason that it actually sounds like Queen's because it's literally Brian May. They got him back to do the soundtrack and he has new original songs for the film. But the thought crime here is that my kids loved this thing. You saw them just running in and talking about it. They've been obsessed with it ever since they watch it, especially the little one. And what struck me was this is a film, and more specifically the character of he Man where it's a depiction of masculinity in such a way that you just don't find anywhere else in the mainstream of entertainment, in children's entertainment, you don't find anything anywhere where you've just got a big, muscle bound guy who, in a very positive way, is just wailing on bad guys. And there's something about that where you just put a sword in a young boy's hand and have them hold it up and say I have the power that actually speaks to something that's very, very positive for young kids. 00:21:54 Speaker 4: And so at first I wasn't super into it, but then when I. 00:21:57 Speaker 7: Saw the reaction that they had to it, it made me appreciate it more because I, you know, it was kind of thinking about it in contrast of all the other things that are out there in media today, that this is something for young boys that they could look to and say, you know what, I want to be a hero. 00:22:16 Speaker 4: Just like he Man. I can be just like he Man. 00:22:20 Speaker 7: And look, if you're you know someone who's got a young girl right now, there's everything it's everything is all female coded or feminine coded, whereas he Man is like the one thing where it's just like, yeah, I'm a dude who's got the power of the cosmos, the power of the sword, and you know what, I'm going to use it. And by the way, the fact that it's a white guy doing that, they didn't like. 00:22:43 Speaker 4: You know, they did race swap man at arms, but they did not. But it's interesting. 00:22:46 Speaker 7: But I mean, and they did not gender swap or race swap or do any of that nonsense. It's just it's it's something where I said, you know what, this is actually good for young boys to see that we should take them to see it. And Blake, if you want to tie this in, there's something in the psychology of specifically the toys of the series, which I'm sure they're going to try to sell a lot of toys too. It's like mine that that actually is at play here. 00:23:15 Speaker 9: Yeah, so that's what we were thinking of linking it to here because he Man infamously was originally created to basically sell toys. In fact, I think the toys existed and then they made the show, and then now the show. 00:23:27 Speaker 5: It all loops around, but it turned into a thing. I guess it's pretty old, but I only learned of it yesterday. 00:23:32 Speaker 9: And it's the we were debating what to call this the Batman to Barbie pipeline, the Batman shopping idea. 00:23:39 Speaker 5: But it's literally. 00:23:39 Speaker 9: How kids engage with toys, which is pretty funny because. 00:23:43 Speaker 7: I was versus Barbie. It's like two separate psychologies. 00:23:47 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:23:48 Speaker 9: Well, it's reading the excerpt here from the uh that book where it's his daughter playing with the toys and we should wonder how is she playing with the toys? 00:23:56 Speaker 5: So's it's this take that someone had. Let me bring it up here. 00:24:00 Speaker 7: Uh, just a classic green text, classic four Chan green text, by the way. 00:24:04 Speaker 9: Yes, so what happens is this is all someone else brought it up, but it's the Batman's shop. 00:24:09 Speaker 4: I can't believe never saw it before, by the way. 00:24:12 Speaker 9: Yeah, so here's what someone alleged on on four Chan. 00:24:15 Speaker 5: Ages ago. 00:24:16 Speaker 9: Lego did a study when they created the Lego Friends line for girls where they discovered that when a boy plays with the toy of a character, it's totally different from how it is with a girl. The boy tries to become the character, the girl wants the character to become her. 00:24:31 Speaker 5: So the example he gives, you give a boy. 00:24:34 Speaker 9: A Batman toy. He wants to know what is Batman's origin? What is Batman's idea, how does Batman act and behave? And he'll play with Batman, with Batman doing Batman things, so he'll, you know, he'll be motivated. I have to get revenge for my parents, but I can't kill anybody because Batman's not allowed to do that. 00:24:49 Speaker 4: He's going to talk like this. 00:24:51 Speaker 5: All the time. 00:24:51 Speaker 6: All of that. 00:24:52 Speaker 9: The girl, on the other hand, is going to take Batman and she's going to make Batman do girl stuff. Batman will go shopping, he will bake cookies, he will go to and there's there's exceptions, he says, but the data says this is what's going on there. And then this leads into this is arguably the reason that Star Wars and so many other things have gone downhill after Kathleen Kennedy and similar people have taken over, because when they're hands at a property, they think, how can I make this property more like me? As opposed to how do I steward this property in a way that makes sense with it? So does Star Wars do stuff that makes sense to Star Wars or are they just turning Star Wars into Ray has to go to the prom. 00:25:37 Speaker 3: That's what they're doing. That's what they're doing. It's actually kind of funny. 00:25:41 Speaker 6: I can I can vouch for this. 00:25:42 Speaker 8: By the way, my children, my son specifically with Star Wars, ever since I took him to go see Mandalorian, which Jack is still upset at me about, but like he's obsessed with. 00:25:54 Speaker 4: I think we should hold ourselves to the same standard. 00:25:58 Speaker 8: I didn't actually, you know, anybody to do anything. So there's that somebody isn't watching the episodes. He's I digress, No, no, no, I saw the chat. I knew exactly, but I just you know, listen, my son wanted to go. I had a great time with him. Anyways, he's he is doing all the Mando things. He's not making Mando do whatever, you know. 00:26:19 Speaker 6: He thinks he should do. 00:26:20 Speaker 8: It just seems like he's And the other part that really resonates here is where you learn everything about him. He knows like Mando facts like about the character, about his weapons that are pretty obscure, and he's kind of done that all on his own, Like I haven't been leading him down any path or anything. So I can say lived experience totally matches this description. 00:26:42 Speaker 4: So actually that's so that's exactly what my boys are doing. Just real quick. 00:26:45 Speaker 7: With with he Man, they're doing the exact same thing. It's like, uh, you know, okay, who is mom and Dad? Okay, got it? And what's the deal with the cat the cat change, the tiger changes to battle cat when he has the power. 00:26:56 Speaker 4: Got okay cool? 00:26:57 Speaker 7: And they they want to learn all those things about him. But then it's also that I think the deeper thing though they were talking about here is like so it's it's like a role playing in the sense that hey, I can be he Man, I can be whatever you know Star Wars character you just made up. I can be Batman in this situation, and it's sort of like giving that actual empowerment. 00:27:22 Speaker 4: Whereas with Lego when they did. 00:27:24 Speaker 7: Because Blake in the thing you read, they talked about the Lego Friends line and the Lego Friends line. This is very similar to Barbie, where it's like they make personalized characters that you can go in and then customize, which is totally separate from like every other Lego set that's ever been made before. And this was how this was the psychology that allowed Lego to finally open up the female market, the to market to young girls that you know that they found that girls wanted that kind of toy more, whereas boys wanted to do role playing. 00:27:56 Speaker 4: And so rather than mean, you know, we've all seen. 00:28:00 Speaker 7: This trope with like the girls will have like the you know, every toy story they talk about it, where like the girl will have the toys go the action toys go. 00:28:08 Speaker 4: To like a tea party, right. 00:28:09 Speaker 7: You know that's because that's what girls do, whereas boys want to fight and play with with the toys and view themselves as the toys. 00:28:18 Speaker 4: There was actually that cool series, The Toys That Make Us. 00:28:21 Speaker 7: Do you guys ever see that on Netflix or I think it was YouTube maybe that talks about how the toys were made. And one piece I wrote this up for Human Events that when the toys were first made, to Blake's point that they let them play with they just let kids play with the toys, and some of the boys were going back and forth saying I have the power, No, I have the power back, And that's where they got the line from, was just actual kids playing in in like a focus group. And one of the things that they dug through and realized was that when you're a young boy like that, you're constantly surrounded in areas where women. 00:29:00 Speaker 4: Have like total authority. 00:29:01 Speaker 7: Right, You're at home and mom's the boss, you know, for most of the day. You go to school then, and you know, the teaching staff is mostly female and so they feel powerless. But now now when I have this, I get to be he Man, and he Man. 00:29:18 Speaker 4: Has all of the power. 00:29:19 Speaker 7: So it's actually it was a repudiation of the long House back then, whereas like today, this system has only gotten worse. The situation has only gotten worse because the Longhouse of the female run, consensus driven world is like literally everywhere you go. And you know, we might disagree on this, but I actually took the first part of the movie as actually sort of showing that, because in the film when it starts out, that's kind of the joke, is that he Man actually works in an HR department and he has this like he has this like feminist girl boss director and he gets fired. 00:29:59 Speaker 4: It doesn't go very well. 00:30:03 Speaker 8: Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why REFI. You've probably been hearing me talk about y REFI for some time now. We are all in with these guys. 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Just go to yrefi dot com and tell them your friend Andrews saying you. 00:31:02 Speaker 3: So. 00:31:02 Speaker 9: Speaking of how girls play with toys, I think that there's kind of funny old proof of this, which is clearly based on probably what an early Pixar animator's own kids were doing. But the original toy story, back before there was four and five and all these other and the gay buzz Light your movie, we had the original toy story, which is amazing and you may remember there's a scene where Buzz ends up in the hands of Sid's little sister and what he goes to rescue him. And let's show how they portrayed her playing with them. Let's do clip sixteen. 00:31:35 Speaker 4: Buzz Hey, Buzz, are you okay? God a god? Oh it's gone by bye? Who's it? What happened to you? And you're defending all galaxy? 00:31:48 Speaker 7: And suddenly you find yourself sucking down dar jealing with reading. 00:31:57 Speaker 4: I think you had enough t for today. Let's get you out of here. 00:32:01 Speaker 5: But do you get you see the hats? 00:32:04 Speaker 13: I am missus aspects. 00:32:14 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, you're right. I am just a little depressed. That's all I can get through this. 00:32:21 Speaker 1: Oh I. 00:32:24 Speaker 5: Can't even fly out of the window. But the head look good. 00:32:28 Speaker 7: Tell me the head look good out the window, by your. 00:32:34 Speaker 3: Ad come this way. 00:32:37 Speaker 13: Years of academy training waste. 00:32:41 Speaker 5: The original I am, tell me the hat. 00:32:46 Speaker 15: That's exactly the point, right, that's the point that like the little girl made Buzz Lightyear, who's a you know, an action spaceman, uh secret agent kind of character, into put him in the long house. 00:33:00 Speaker 9: She put them in the long way. There's a natural the counterpoint here though, that I'm saying, so, okay, girls will do this with boy toys. Do you see the opposite, like will will boys if put into this situation like where they only have barbies to interact with, will they will they play house? Or will they make her the girlfriend of Batman? I don't do your boys ever play with girl coded toys in any capacity? 00:33:24 Speaker 16: Jack, No, No, theres where like we're like they've gone over, like tany you'll have girlfriends or something who have daughters and if we're like arrange. 00:33:36 Speaker 7: A playdate, like they will just march right past the girl toys and pick up like a ball or something else, like they just it's like they don't even exist. 00:33:46 Speaker 9: Yeah, which is good, but it does strike me if we're gonna engage with the thought crime here, there might be an issue there if if they're saying boys will get into the headspace of the toy, well yeah if the toy is awesome, but if the toy is to mess. 00:34:00 Speaker 10: So my parents actually took it a step further and use essentially this thought process as why growing up we weren't allowed to watch Star Wars, we weren't allowed to watch Batman or Superman which is hilarious because I'm a giant nerd. Now there was we essentially would watch Animal Planet, Discovery Channel, the History Channel. But then there was this animated show called Rescue Heroes, which is essentially they just made police officers, firemen, lifeguards, doctors like all these heroes and so the whole show is literally just them. 00:34:40 Speaker 3: Like, oh, we have a wildfire, we have to go save the people. 00:34:44 Speaker 10: And literally you had like essentially a he Man style toys, but it was Billy Blaze's the fireman, and he had like a mustache and everything. 00:34:52 Speaker 5: And they all team up with each other, so the paramount just shows up to help. 00:34:55 Speaker 10: It was Avengers or Justice League. But like for like first responders. 00:35:01 Speaker 9: Did they have one guy who had like a really niche skill like they have. They'd have the coast guard guy who's good at water just taking along in the desert rescue. 00:35:09 Speaker 10: Or coastguard guide actually had a pet dolphin that helped him on rescue. 00:35:15 Speaker 5: That's that's actually pretty awesome. 00:35:16 Speaker 10: Yeah, And literally you had these toys where you would have like a ship or there's like a big aircraft carry It was literally the Avengers in Justice League. 00:35:24 Speaker 9: But for first I feel like The real fantasy here is various public safety departments envisioning what they would do with an unlimited budget, like have a giant aircraft carrier for water rescues. Angelo, I'm glad we have Dad's Wayne. And Angelo does point out that boys do exactly one thing if they get their hands. Aren't a barbie doll? I think saying that, you can imagine it's it's dredging up childhood memories of myself. 00:35:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we all know what that is. 00:35:50 Speaker 9: Yeah, don't give barbiesies weird stuff. 00:35:56 Speaker 7: Don't give barbies your boys and and yeah, pop pause. Depictions of masculinity are good for young boys, and I think that we should support those. And that's why I'm saying, just you know, put a sword in your young kid's hand. I mean, if you're a boy, or if you have boys or you know, grandsons, that you'll see that kids, young boys will automatically they be walking down the street and they pick up a stick and suddenly that stick turns into a stword and they're on an adventure. And teach them that they have the power, and this is key. Do not ever let anyone tell them they don't. 00:36:36 Speaker 9: Exactly, I'd say even a bigger picture thing. There a thing that bothers me. You'll have these adults who will say this is a great kids show because it engages with more nuanced or whatever. We made a character and their parents are divorced and they have a messed up home life, and I'm really wondering if that should be basically considered very bad behavior for anyone who's under the age of eleven or twelve or something, because I feel like we actually benefit if you give kids zero irony. Be an awesome superhero and they're on a team of other awesome superheroes who do heroic. 00:37:08 Speaker 5: Good stuff and they beat the bad guys. 00:37:11 Speaker 9: You don't want all these weird moral layers and ambiguities going on. 00:37:15 Speaker 5: Because then they'll just be messed up in the head and you want them to be superheroes. 00:37:18 Speaker 7: Yeah, and oh, by the way, I should also add, since I appreciate you guys indulging this topic, because I do think it's important for parenting. It's not just about he Man, but where did the original he Man kind of fall off? 00:37:30 Speaker 4: Like, why was something that was so popular. 00:37:32 Speaker 7: That controlled like the entire you know, kid space kiddom until you know the late eighties, and I argue that it was when they introduced he Man's sister, she Ra, and they went all in on she Ra, and she Ra became the twin sister of he Man, and then suddenly it wasn't just he has the power, it's that she has the power to do and with there's some girls that bought it, I'm sure, but you know, what did it do? I think it turned off a lot of the boys. And it was something that kind of like, you know, made it so that this the franchise just did not continue through the nineties and never really took off again in the way that it had before. And I think it was I think it was because they messed up the psychology. 00:38:27 Speaker 8: The deep programming of feminism in our culture is something that's worth thinking about and studying. You know, I recently was became aware of the fact that, you know, when the original Suffragettes were kind of pushing their propaganda, guess who what their main opponent was. It was actually women women. So they would do these votes across the country and you know, in Massachusetts, for example, they did some vote on women suffrage and it was like ninety four to six. The women were against it. So it's very interesting when you think about this was like one hundred and fifty year project, maybe even longer really, back to the eighteen forties. It has been so long in the making, so deeply ingrained in the psyche of the culture that you kind of can't really it's hard to understand for each person where the programming begins and ends. So we've all been totally propagandized. 00:39:21 Speaker 6: About this stuff. 00:39:22 Speaker 8: And it is a weird phenomena when it comes to the male psyche. And I totally agree with you on this, Jack, men, if you celebrate them and push them and champion them, they will go from boys to men. They will become fully formed human adults with strength, power and authority. If you don't, if women swarm, they will shrink back. I don't know if you want to call that that is a weakness of the sex. 00:39:47 Speaker 6: I don't know. 00:39:47 Speaker 8: But there is a thing that if you cut off a man's development early, he will not fully form. He will become a weak man, he will become a shrinking violet. He will do all the things that we don't want men to do. But if you chant I mean it gets fully formed. He's unstoppable and so you see this in the workplace. One of the things that I keep thinking about, and Blake was the one who actually brought this to my attention was the Helen Andrews piece. We're just talking about the great awokening that the females are starting to overpopulate in corporate spaces. They're becoming the majority in corporate spaces. I think we can't underestimate how disastrous this can be because there is something about men. You see this at the university now, that's what sixty two percent of degrees go to women now at this point, which is obscene. When men used to dominate us, to be like eighty twenty, it's like invading locusts. I mean, no disrespect to the women, but you've got to champion men or they will shrink back. But once they become fully formed, once they become powerful, they'll become the protected of your civilization. So I totally agree Jack, we need to encourage young men to watch he Man. I think it's great, it's great programming, it's great for the development of young boys' minds. 00:40:54 Speaker 6: But there is. 00:40:55 Speaker 8: Something about women. They'll just keep coming, They'll just keep keep coming, and men will shrink back. And it maybe it is a weakness of the male sex, but you got to promote them, you got to champion them. 00:41:07 Speaker 5: Totally agree, Yeah, I think it's all. 00:41:10 Speaker 9: I think the biggest picture thing of all is it illustrates the importance of dudes specifically really need implicitly all male spaces, and some of that is actual organizations. I think the Boy Scouts clearly went into a tailspin when they started letting girls in. 00:41:28 Speaker 5: I don't think that's surprising. But it's even with things. 00:41:31 Speaker 9: It's like you said, with the he man thing, guys are going to want a thing that is just the guy thing. I think it's really messed with the military that we've let women into it. I think in an existential way, it's just guys. This probably goes back to the step when the original proto Indo Europeans were expanding with their their horse warrior legions to conquer the entirety of Europe and India and the Middle East and all of that. But they got to have their their group of dudes. 00:41:58 Speaker 8: You got to have dudes ros Why I think it's I think it's diabolical that women always want to invade male spaces. It's completely diabolical because we so fundamentally need those spaces, we need those shows, we need those programmings, we need those those experiences as young people, and so they all get attacked. 00:42:15 Speaker 9: That's what they're doing, every single one, all biological there. Women have the biological need to push against this, and they are testing if we have the resolve to say no. And deep down I think they want us to say no. But are we going to be strong enough to do it? 00:42:31 Speaker 6: Yeah? 00:42:31 Speaker 9: Are we going to be strong enough to say no? They are not going to green light the she Rah movie. 00:42:36 Speaker 5: Women are crying out. 00:42:37 Speaker 9: Women are crying out across America, don't make a she Rah movie. Don't let it happen. But they're saying the opposite, and we have to be strong enough. 00:42:46 Speaker 6: Remember when they did that Ghostbusters with all women. 00:42:51 Speaker 9: Want to make chick Ghostbusters. They were saying, I want to make chick Ghostbusters, crying out for a man to say no, that that's not necessary. 00:43:01 Speaker 7: Kind of like the new Supergirl movie, which we have been talked about. 00:43:04 Speaker 5: But just again, we're not even going to dignify that with an extended discussion. 00:43:09 Speaker 10: I will say, having watched both, I'm glad that he man is out there that that they can go that there is an op like. 00:43:18 Speaker 8: How did it do It's already been out for like a month, how did it do jet? 00:43:22 Speaker 5: It didn't do not do well. 00:43:24 Speaker 4: No, he Man did not do well. 00:43:26 Speaker 3: And I definitely Supergirl, to be fair, it to better. 00:43:29 Speaker 4: Supergirl, but it did not do that well. 00:43:31 Speaker 7: And I would argue that's because they didn't lean into this type of marketing and doing it this way, you know, saying, hey, this is a movie for boys, and it's unapologetically a movie for boys, because in the marketing they kind of played up, you know, some of these other aspects. And I think that I think that people maybe got the wrong take on it, or they saw him sitting at a desk with pronouns and they didn't think that it was like a. 00:43:56 Speaker 4: Like a satire. It was making fun of the pronouns. 00:43:59 Speaker 3: The first is pretty female coded and well, and they do this. 00:44:03 Speaker 9: I think that I didn't care for looking at the trailer in the you know, they throw the little I Knew how to use it joke and a few similar things like they actually they dilute what could be a boy adventure with a handful of bits of call it Joss whedonesque humor, you know, to make it flip it and light and this is totally it appeals to millennials. 00:44:24 Speaker 6: Look at this. 00:44:25 Speaker 5: I think it's a big misfire. 00:44:27 Speaker 9: It reminds me of when they made the Power Rangers movie about a decade ago, and I saw it and I just thought I saw it because I was a huge Power Rangers, not as a kid, and I thought the way to do that movie would have been you go ten out of ten. 00:44:41 Speaker 5: It's cartoonish. 00:44:42 Speaker 9: Everyone's making weird Japanese hand gestures as they talk, just like in the show. And they're all super earnest. All the kids are do gooders, just like they are in the show. And you just give it a bigger budget and it'd be really entertaining. 00:44:53 Speaker 5: And instead they. 00:44:54 Speaker 9: Did that where they made it. Oh the kids are they're now like bad boys and girls. They meet in detention and one of them like, she's she feels she's like disgraced because she shared I think nude photos of a friend like to hurt her, and then that friend killed herself or something. 00:45:11 Speaker 5: They added all this darkness and I'm like, this is a Power Ranger that was in Power Rangers. Yeah, they had this in Power Rangers and it just totally messed up. 00:45:18 Speaker 10: I mean, we did go through a phase of the same time. It was the same time that we had to revenge. Yeah, Josh shrank where it was like every superhero movie. 00:45:30 Speaker 5: It was so bad. 00:45:31 Speaker 9: It was it was it was, Yeah, we need to we have too much of society. We're gonna we need to take the irony out and tell kids they should be awesome because awesome people around. 00:45:41 Speaker 3: We need. 00:45:41 Speaker 10: Corny is okay, Yeah, it's okay to be corny. 00:45:47 Speaker 8: Good conversation is about respect. It's how we create a space where people are able to share their ideas. 00:45:53 Speaker 3: And be heard. 00:45:54 Speaker 8: Charlie knew that Turning Points still knows that, and TikTok has always strived to build the kind of place that thrives on respectful connection, where curiosity fuels connection and we can share what's on our minds and learn from each other. When ideas meet respect, good things happen. On TikTok. You can find a mechanic explaining the why behind a problem most of us wouldn't even know how to name, or a father sharing a lifetime of knowledge with his viewers. Viewers who listen discuss, and then they respond. TikTok turns connection into community through small acts of understanding. You can feel it in the comments and the thank you from a stranger halfway across the world. TikTok is a place where respect opens the door for discussion, and discussion helps us build something real. It reminds me of what my pastor. 00:46:39 Speaker 6: Used to say. 00:46:39 Speaker 8: He would just like because we always like present those like, oh, he was a drug dealer and he went to prison, and now he gave his life to Jesus, and he's like, I want to make a church. I want to like support and preach to a church that has a lot of boring testimonies, like you know, like we don't need everybody to be able their life story to be you know, something you could turn into a novel, Okay, So like let's just keep it straight. Here's what's interesting, though, Blake, you were right about this demographic failures what they say. 00:47:06 Speaker 6: Audience data from. 00:47:06 Speaker 8: Variety revealed the movie heavily relied on nostalgia, attracting an audience that was sixty six percent mail not a bad thing, actually, but here's the bad thing, and forty percent over the age of forty five, it completely failed to capture younger crowds, with children under twelve making up only four percent of the audience. So somethings to Jack's point that could have been so good for young people didn't get to any young people. 00:47:28 Speaker 6: But anyway, what's interesting forty. 00:47:30 Speaker 9: Five they're really they're just dragging it, saying, hey, well this I mean, isn't it. 00:47:34 Speaker 10: The trailer they kept bouncing between the nineteen eighty three he Man and the new like they kept kind of interspersing the scenes, So that was it was very much Yeah, they were going after the nostalgia. 00:47:46 Speaker 6: But get this, MGM studios may still green light a sequel because it is a considered a core ip asset and can drive prime video streaming subscriptions in long term. 00:47:57 Speaker 4: eCos NDM Game by Amazon. So I can see this. 00:48:01 Speaker 10: I could see this movie becoming a streaming hit. I could absolutely see this movie becoming a streaming hit because, especially if you have the ability to forward and rewind, you could forward through the first hour of this film and just and kids will just literally just enjoy the action part. 00:48:17 Speaker 7: My my uh, my five year old to your point, he'll be like he'll be like Daddy, I don't want to watch the talking parts. 00:48:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And that's and that's the big thing. 00:48:26 Speaker 4: Give me the I just want to watch the he man parts that. 00:48:28 Speaker 3: First hour is for sure. 00:48:33 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:48:33 Speaker 7: And Amazon if they turn into a stream yeah, so Amazon owns MGM, so something to be said. And you know, obviously Disney has been uh, you know, Andrew, this is more year lane of lane of of country. But something I know Disney has been experimenting with this as well is sort of like the in the theater plus on streaming, either simultaneous release or you do like a couple you know, a couple of weeks in theater and then you go to streaming. Because if you have a streaming service that's owned by the studio, which used to be separate, so it used to be separate income streams. Now it's the same company, it owns both and so you can make your money back or you can do other things that make your money back with the streaming service, so that that overall piece thereof you know, the box office isn't always going to be the end all be all. And of course Warner Brothers with d C, they're event they just got brought out, you know, they're tied up in the big Paramount merger, so that's not totally you know, it's not totally. 00:49:33 Speaker 4: The ink is not dried on that. 00:49:35 Speaker 7: So I'm actually told by a guy who I know on the HBO side that they haven't fully vested, et cetera or whatever. 00:49:41 Speaker 4: But you know, it's it's we're just changing the marketplace, is basically what I'm saying. 00:49:46 Speaker 10: There is a extra credit scene for he Man that shows she Rah and it's high. It's heavily implied that it's gonna be Sydney Sweeney. So if if they're going to actually make money off of a movie, that to be the best way to do it is to have heard the why. 00:50:05 Speaker 5: Not speaking full circle? 00:50:15 Speaker 9: Which will you know, while our mind is in the gutter, we may as well keep it there because we need to have a debate over ID verification because Congress is they're not lurching into action on birthright citizenship, they're not lurching into action on a lot of things. But Democrats and Republicans have finally come together to say that we should restrict the Internet more. And we were actually having a big debate about this show chat, so we thought, why not bring it. 00:50:40 Speaker 7: Up here I guess is that this is it's also about kids in a sense, because there's an act that is going through Congress right now talking about you know, and when you look at the the headline of it, you know, you'd think this would be something that that everyone would support, that that a lot of parents would support, about banning children from accessing pornography online. This is obviously something that we can all agree is good. This is something that Charlie talked about at length, including a believe on this program and certainly obviously on the main show, and this is something that we all want to do. A lot of states have been adding these age verifications on at the state level for these websites. However, what this new bill is doing and oh gosh, that just passed the House. 00:51:33 Speaker 4: I believe in Blake, if you have the name of it, you could help. 00:51:36 Speaker 9: That's just that lovely name, The Kids Internet and Digital Safety Act, which I've been around the pocket of kids pushed very quickly think of the children, Meta children, So so that sounds good. 00:51:54 Speaker 7: What are the problems with it? And yeah, let's say if it's pushed by Meta. 00:51:59 Speaker 5: It's I don't know, I suppose I think the person they bothered. 00:52:03 Speaker 9: A name in this write up about it is Senator Marshall Blackburn, who is a Republican. But I mean it actually passed with bipartisan support. I just you know, if you look at the details, it says that companies have to have ways to limit addictive features in their apps for kids, you need to have and they have to have policies in place to protect children from sexual exploitation. This a Senate version, which would be even tougher, would add a duty of care on social media companies for young people, which that strikes me as something that would be really dangerous because you're essentially creating this unlimited ambit for the government to come in and say, oh, this company, it wasn't following its duty of care towards children. 00:52:47 Speaker 5: We can blow it to smithereens. 00:52:48 Speaker 9: And all I can think of is that would be so easy to blow up Twitter, for example X and say oh, you were allowing kids to get access to inappropriate content because it was racist, because it was pornographic, because it was any number of things. 00:53:03 Speaker 5: Better blow it to smithereens. 00:53:05 Speaker 9: And that's why I'm always wary of any online safety bill. 00:53:08 Speaker 5: Personally, I don't. 00:53:10 Speaker 6: Understand why the do something I don't, But well, okay, go ahead. 00:53:17 Speaker 4: So so you're asking why is meta behind it? 00:53:20 Speaker 7: It says meta, just real quick, Meta is behind it because this puts the onus on the app store and the play store and gives immunity to what they refer to as like the social media providers, so Facebook et cetera. 00:53:35 Speaker 4: Those guys would have protections. 00:53:37 Speaker 7: Whereas they're saying the onus is now on the it's like it's at the phone level basically. 00:53:42 Speaker 10: Well, and that's a lot of that also has to be because like Facebook has already done a bunch to to limit access to UH, to like Facebook and to Instagram with kids, like you've got you now have parental controls, you now have of time controls. 00:54:01 Speaker 8: Well, they're limited liability. It's all about limiting liability, right. 00:54:05 Speaker 6: And I don't understand why. So I would love the option. 00:54:08 Speaker 8: So I sign up for internet at my house, right, I pay the internet service provider a monthly fee. 00:54:13 Speaker 6: I would love the UH, the the option to opt. 00:54:17 Speaker 8: In to a any of these porn websites are disallowed in your house, and if you want to like go in the back end and like they get one of them wrong or something. But if somebody created like a database that hey, these what these websites are unavailable at your house, I would opt into that for the sake of my family, for the sake of the Internet, for the sake of the country. 00:54:36 Speaker 6: I think a lot of families would. 00:54:38 Speaker 8: That seems to be if you're just dealing with porn, that's one thing. These guys, This thing is too broad, broad sweeping, and I think it it opens the Pandora's box of censorship and you know, potentially creating criminal liability or civil liability on stuff that should be the parent's domain. That's my my first instinct here. 00:54:58 Speaker 7: Yeah, So, I mean, I'm sure there's I'm sure there's like apps or VPNs that already do that, And you're absolutely right, there should be something that is done at the. 00:55:06 Speaker 4: Service provider level. The issue that I see. 00:55:11 Speaker 7: With it, of course, though from a privacy standpoint though, and this is what I've seen a lot of pushback online, is people are saying, well, wait a minute, you know, is this going to create some giant government database where you where the government can then see every single person who's associated with a certain username online. 00:55:30 Speaker 4: And I'm I'm. 00:55:32 Speaker 7: A huge support so if that's true, I'm totally opposed to something like that because I think, look, the MAGA movement would not exist without Internet anonymity. We've all lived in a world where we have seen people canceled over anonymous writings that have later than been you know, attributed to them, or just you know, regular writings that have attributed to them that are totally just totally normal opinions, you know, as a keep me in to cover it, but like the opinions of a normal person thirty years ago. And I think that we live in a time that where we're totally controlled by the Longhouse, We're totally controlled by our institutions, are controlled by our enemies. We had debanking going on up until like five minutes ago of conservatives, and so you know, giving away Internet anonymity would be a very. 00:56:23 Speaker 4: Very foolish move to do. And like the Grand Chessboard. 00:56:29 Speaker 10: I don't think I don't think we are I don't think you need anonymity all the time, though, like I don't, I don't think that there is a reason to like, yeah, sure, is it nice to sometimes be able to like not like be able to kind of cover your thing yourself, But I don't think anonymity, especially on the Internet, is anything more than a smoke screen, because everybody has an iPhone, everybody use their face ID, everybody or done, not just RUSS, not just iPhone. 00:57:05 Speaker 8: But think about it, and so listen, I think your heart's in the right place. But think about it in terms of politics, right, how many amazing conservative right wing MAGA accounts existed simply because they were able to be anonymous and tell the truth online. If they would have their identities would have been docks. Then they would have lost their jobs. They would have been you know, we're in this unique position where we're able to be say, say, and do and think what we what we want freely and not be fired for it and not be sent to the HR team, where that's just not the case for a lot of people. They have they have to protect their identities. I remember when this debate became UH front and center. It was like it was like Jordan Peterson versus Cerno is the way I remember it. Do you remember this UH post so worse? Jordan Peterson was raging against the accounts. 00:57:49 Speaker 6: It was like, you know, and I you know. 00:57:54 Speaker 4: I'm going to hold him to this. 00:57:55 Speaker 7: Jordan Peterson one point zero in twenty seventeen went on Joe Rogan and was celebrating anons online and was saying that, like, these accounts are great. 00:58:07 Speaker 4: I love it. They're so good. 00:58:08 Speaker 7: They say things that no one else can say. You need to be anonymous in a time like this, Like the guy literally was like preaching Sol Jonitzin, who obviously you know, lived in the Soviet Union, so at a place where the anonymity was necessary or you could you could die. And then all of a sudden, Jordan Peterson like totally flipped on that during like covid. 00:58:27 Speaker 9: Okay, I will say what totally happens is there are people who are broadly in favor of anonymity or they turn against it and crash out over it because anonymous people fights with them online and they can't handle it, which I think is kind of little lame and pathetic. I think there's also just one hundred percent I've seen people who think, oh, people who are anonymous basically shouldn't be allowed to have takes. 00:58:52 Speaker 5: I've seen that. I think Richard Hannanias argued that. And then there's also just. 00:58:59 Speaker 9: How to put it, like some people just can't handle anonymous people existing, and I think it's actually a very important right that if you have the ability to say something, you should be able to say it anonymously period. And another thing I would add is if you've been around online enough, you've seen sometimes journalists or activists will be feuding with someone and they're clearly trying to go somebody into giving them their identity just so they can go and mess with their life and mess around with them. I mean, it's happened with all of the lunatic conspiracy theorists around Charlie. They want to probe into everyone's personal life. I've seen them do this to random people pushing back against them online. 00:59:39 Speaker 5: You have to have the ability to be. 00:59:40 Speaker 9: Anonymous because it is one of the fundamental tools that an ordinary person has to resist those who want to act tyrannically against them. Sometimes that's government, Sometimes that's just organizations and companies. Sometimes it's just people who have more social power than you. 00:59:54 Speaker 10: But are we really saying that the government doesn't already have a list of people with their handles and they can't, they can't find they have a. 01:00:04 Speaker 9: Lot, but it's a pain in the butt for them, And there's weird bureaucanatic obstacles that if you tear them down, will make it a lot easier for them to weaponize. 01:00:14 Speaker 10: So this is where a thing and was taking on our taking all of our data for years before it ever got whistleblown. So saying that the government doesn't already have a list that of people and their and their handles is kind of ludicrous when you think about it. 01:00:37 Speaker 8: Alliance Defending Freedom knows that freedom belongs to those who fight for it. Americans have carried that legacy for two hundred and fifty years, and now we must do so again. 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That's Charlie to eight three eight four eight. Please give your best gift now to defend the next two hundred and fifty years of freedom. That's JOINADYF dot com slash Charlie or text Charlie to eight three eight four eight. I will say, though, it's like this is where I get really torn up on the Palenteer debate, you know, because they're trying to build databases and get the different agencies to to talk to each other so that the government is you know, no, like, for example, the Social Security Administration knows what the well welfare and Medicaid no, et cetera. I support that because I want to get rid of illegals off the roles. I want to get them off the I want to detect fraud. But yeah, there is a there is a point where you're kind of like, I do want to be able to be left alone and not surveiled all the time. If I want to be you know, and there needs to be there needs to be a ligne. 01:02:38 Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean, I guess I'm arguing this from a pragmatic perspective, Whereas obviously I want to protect internet anonymity online as much as possible, having been a guy who had palenteer access and not prison access, but access to other things. It's it's like the the the user in the intelligence community doesn't have the ability to just like look up any thing like that. Like there are still, as Blake says, there are all these hoops you have to jump through. There are bureaucratic protections, et cetera. You can't just like blanket go after people the way that you could potentially if. 01:03:10 Speaker 4: You were, like say, a bad actor at Apple or Google. And we certainly know. 01:03:14 Speaker 7: That there are lots of bad actors at Google, probably Apple as well. 01:03:18 Speaker 4: And when certainly. 01:03:20 Speaker 7: If you look at their founder's x and the way that she spends her money, the widow and when you don't want to make it easy for these companies to be able to do that. 01:03:32 Speaker 4: Number one. But number two to Andrew's point. 01:03:36 Speaker 7: That this is where libertarianism fails, and I think we've talked about this a number of times, is that they keep saying like, oh, we shouldn't give the government this power, We shouldn't give the government this power, and then along comes someone who just gives the government that power, and then suddenly they have it, and now you're stuck in a corner arguing that they shouldn't have it, but they're never going to give up said power. 01:03:55 Speaker 4: So the only actual. 01:03:57 Speaker 7: Viable option left to you is to take over the government because you have to control the sword, right, you must. 01:04:04 Speaker 4: It's going back to he man, Right. 01:04:06 Speaker 7: You have to be the one who picks up the sword and says this is mine now, and then you must defend it. Because just because power can be wielded in an abusive way doesn't mean that you should just like sit in the corner and argue like, oh, well, we shouldn't do anything that's going to give ourselves power, because eventually they will find a way to get power and come after you. 01:04:25 Speaker 4: And we've certainly all experienced that. 01:04:27 Speaker 7: We've all seen that throughout the Biden era, no question mark Garland and and it is where you just need to fight back. 01:04:35 Speaker 4: You just need to be able to fight back. 01:04:38 Speaker 8: Well, isn't this law, though, Jack, isn't this law like if you if you're trying to look at porn or something like that, you have to put in like an ID. 01:04:48 Speaker 6: Isn't that part of this law the state? 01:04:50 Speaker 4: I think that's the state law law that I know. 01:04:54 Speaker 7: Yeah, this is a law that says if you, I guess want to download apps, you have to you have to put in government ID. 01:05:05 Speaker 6: See that that's very uncomfortable. 01:05:06 Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of. 01:05:08 Speaker 9: I think there's eccentric ways to go about this that would make it better to So, for example, one of the ideas I've liked for for adult websites, for pornographic ones is you'd have the requirement that you have to pay for it, even if it's ten cents, you have to actually go and input a credit card into it. You know, maybe you maybe you go and get one of those prepaid ones if you want to get around it. 01:05:29 Speaker 5: But I think one a lot of people will finally. 01:05:32 Speaker 9: Be attacked with shame when they're realizing I am pained for this dirty product. And two it's just it's a that's annoying to get over. Well, so you're increasing the commitment needed to get it. 01:05:42 Speaker 10: And that's essentially what the states are relying on by having you put in your government because you have to essentially. 01:05:48 Speaker 3: Take a picture of your idea again, So what is that. 01:05:51 Speaker 8: Yeah, listen, I'm all for good ideas to like reduce porn consumption, especially amongst young people, but like when you get into the point where you have to put an idea and there's just something about that that feels again like counter I don't know, you know, the freedom you know that we should have as Americans. Again, I think there should be massive, massive tools to fight back against this stuff. But like having to put your idea to download an app, I don't know, like that just it just feels like there's against the spirit of the Internet. 01:06:26 Speaker 7: Well, one of the arguments I was just pulling up some stuff about it was was they were pointing out that one of the reasons that Meta maybe for this so much is that this actually, to your point earlier, takes the liability away from Meta and takes the liability away in the way that the state laws are actually they are actually much stricter. 01:06:45 Speaker 4: So the state laws are stricter. But obviously a state law couldn't countermand a national law. 01:06:51 Speaker 7: So that's why Meta and probably a bunch of the other you know, tech companies are sitting there saying, Hey, the way that we can beat these state laws is by asking this national law, which is actually just going to be like a like a thin veneer of regulation that you know, isn't going to really prevent anyone from seeing this kind of single immunity, but it gets a liability off our back. 01:07:13 Speaker 8: Yeah, and here's the thing, Like tech savvy kids are gonna find a way around that, by the way, and the other thing that comes to mind is like where are they gonna go to get this stuff? If they're not going you know, on normal the normal interna. Are they going to like four Chan chats? Are they going to Reddit chats? 01:07:30 Speaker 4: Like? 01:07:30 Speaker 8: Where are they going to go some sort of dark web corners where maybe they're you know, I don't know, I there there's there's just like a thousand bad things that can happen if you do if you if you start doing this, But again, I support it in in spirit. But I just think, like so many other things that conservatives end up doing from a legislative standpoint, the lava and attended consequences, and that they're betraying certain principles that we shouldn't betray. 01:07:59 Speaker 6: I don't know, you're here whatever Blake thinks. 01:08:02 Speaker 9: I mean, my big take generally it's, you know, we think of ways to negotiate this, and my big take is basically that an almost fully anonymous internet had essentially zero downsides. Everything we've done to curtail that has been because of panic attacks people had that was the Internet bad in twenty fourteen, because that's how long you ago, you have to go back to basically totally unfettered, super anonymous, super free internet. 01:08:27 Speaker 5: That's when I'm Reddit still had submit And. 01:08:30 Speaker 4: Why did they take it away? They took it away. 01:08:32 Speaker 5: It got mad because they thought it was oh we yead it. 01:08:34 Speaker 7: Away because Trump won because of the anons in twenty sixteen, because Gamergate and then and then you know, sort of the online sphere in twenty sixteen that it morphed into that became the MAGA supporters that eventually, you know, and it's like those people kept getting unmasked and it's like, oh, it turns out that they were actually like people who were quite professional or quite intelligent that for whatever reason, had been you know, pushed out of their companies or pushed out of the academy or. 01:09:02 Speaker 4: Whatever it was. 01:09:03 Speaker 7: That that's why it became such a threat. And so we all praise Elon for, you know, for returning us to some semblance of that and allowing that to happen again. 01:09:13 Speaker 4: That there aren't issues with. 01:09:15 Speaker 7: X, one of which, by the way, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that I think it's a huge mistake that pornography is allowed on X I. I continue to say that that's a huge mistake. I think that Elon should take steps to to correct that. I don't think that it it should be something that's allowed to be shared at all. 01:09:30 Speaker 9: On X I had it was allowed on their back again during the super liberal free speech times as well. And I will say, bizarrely, that's how much and that's how much smud is injected everywhere in life. I will say I never ever accidentally run into smut on there. 01:09:47 Speaker 6: I don't ever see it on X. 01:09:49 Speaker 7: So problem with X now, I'll just say one of the big problems is if you're using the advanced search tools that to where you're searching like every tweet that a lot of these pornographers then will target like trending topics or like city names that are trending and then put that in the description of the tweet. So if you're using an advanced Twitter search tool, which I use all the time, that then those tweets will start. 01:10:15 Speaker 4: Coming up, so you won't see them. I just typically on like your actual algorithm. 01:10:21 Speaker 7: But if you're using advanced search, or if you're just typed in, like you know, you're searching for something like boom, you're just hit with it and you're. 01:10:28 Speaker 4: Like, what the heck is this? 01:10:30 Speaker 9: I just, on balance think that the ultra you know, the liberalized Internet in the classical sense, was basically a great thing, and it's only been downhill when it's been restricted in any way, and it's been it's just annoyingly easy for the left to say this is for the kids, and they get the right on board with stuff that inevitably doesn't really protect kids much and does open the door to a bunch of other things. And even it's just how often does this happen where they say Okay, we're worried about kids is getting groomed on the Internet. I know that's a reasonable fear to think about, but actually, how often does that happen versus let's say the most mundane thing in the world. 01:11:09 Speaker 5: What would save more kids. 01:11:10 Speaker 9: If we said we're gonna have the strict internet control resume to stop groomors or actually, you're not allowed to raise a kid with like with like your mom's boyfriend, he's not allowed to live in the same house as you. I bet that would stop a lot more child abuse than any of this. 01:11:25 Speaker 8: Yeah, I just want to I just want to say it again. I would love if they just dealt with it at the internet service provider level, like every house, like here's. 01:11:33 Speaker 6: Your Cox or here's your whatever. 01:11:35 Speaker 8: Internet service and they just said, do you want to opt in for the for your children to ban these certain website. Yeah, it's great, that's still gonna be I mean to take something from Congress, because no company is going to actually do that, like like well, I mean there's already probably like third party culture groups that have it. 01:11:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, but. 01:11:55 Speaker 7: Printal controls aren't like a new thing like parntal controls exist for like I have it for Roku, we have like a we're a Roku house, and you know. 01:12:04 Speaker 4: I have it set up that like my kids can. 01:12:06 Speaker 8: It just means it'd be easier and you get it at the source. You get it at the source, because like right now, it's like if I want to put parental controls, I got to deal with like this streamer, this streamer, this, like laptop whatever, Like we're not really at that phase yet, but it it sort of makes you wonder, like other it's like whack a mole right now, as opposed to just like hey, you can you know, opt into something simple. 01:12:31 Speaker 6: I think that would be a simpler solution. 01:12:32 Speaker 8: I think what you know, how how decentralized it is and how different each platform is. You also have to learn each new thing that your kid can get and get access to in order to do it. I think it's a huge, huge problem, and I think most parents are confused. How do you It sounds like you need to But if I'm feeling like that, less than like how many how many other parents, I'm. 01:12:57 Speaker 3: Already my parents tech guy, I don't need to be so. 01:13:01 Speaker 7: Like hey, whoa whoa this opportunity man like like. 01:13:04 Speaker 8: Pitch shoot your shot man It shouldn't be this hard. It shouldn't be this hard as a parent. That's all I'm saying. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about y Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments, maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Why ref I will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. 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We've got to double back to the AC question. 01:14:21 Speaker 4: Should real quick? 01:14:22 Speaker 9: Europeans have rights given that they have been granted freedom, and they use it to deny themselves air conditioning like absolute psycho U. 01:14:32 Speaker 4: No, we need to shut down. 01:14:34 Speaker 7: European governments until we can understand what the hell is going on, because apparently in some countries they are actually I think it was the UK where they were shutting down. There's a massive heat wave going on in Europe temperatures or like over one hundred degrees fahrenheight, because that's that's God's temperature system. 01:14:58 Speaker 4: We're not going to use anything else, right, it's more granular, It is more granular. 01:15:03 Speaker 7: And we're going to use it which is based off of water, which is the source of all life and as opposed to any other systems. 01:15:13 Speaker 6: That they're all dying. They're all dying. 01:15:15 Speaker 7: They're all dying because they're refusing to allow people to use air conditioning because they all believe in climate change. 01:15:23 Speaker 4: Is this actually true? 01:15:25 Speaker 9: Yes, it seems that the Europeans who have largely abandoned Christianity and abandoned their great civil civilizing mission that uplifted the entire planet. They have now embraced the culture of decay, the culture of assistant suicide, and the culture of just overheating yourself to death headed the heath. I actually think this is a really this is actually a profoundly important thing, because the Left itself is allowing the world to split into a political axis of pro air conditioning and anti air conditioning. 01:15:57 Speaker 5: And there are fewer, there are very few issues. 01:16:00 Speaker 9: I think we can get a ninety ten advantage on and I think we can get that on. 01:16:04 Speaker 5: Air Conditioning should exist and is awesome, and we should put it in everything now here. 01:16:09 Speaker 10: I gotta ask a question, Jack, what do you keep your thermostat at? 01:16:16 Speaker 7: Well, you know, as a guy who has a European wife, this is constantly an issue in my household because of course tany Tay is you know, not super you know, not a super big fan of air conditioning to begin with. So we we currently ride around like seventy okay, Andrew. 01:16:42 Speaker 4: So that's which represents a compromise, to be. 01:16:44 Speaker 6: Sure, seventy four okay, blake. 01:16:48 Speaker 9: You answer first, No, I'm asking, So this is going to make me sound truly demented. Most of the time when I am at home, if I'm not trying to go to sleep, I keep it at like seventy nine. 01:17:03 Speaker 10: Emi Christmas, Okay, wow, we float between seventy three and seventy five. 01:17:08 Speaker 3: I turn it outside. What's weird? 01:17:10 Speaker 9: What I will say is when my air conditioner is running in my apartment, it like wherever I am, for whatever reason, I can feel it actively blowing on me, it seems, and it always makes it feel way too cold, such that even in like if I'm in a T shirt, I keep a longer sleeve kind of like a woolen thing that I had from when I lived in DC, and I just keep it on my computer because sometimes if the A the AC starts running colder, ye like late at night before I go to bed, I will just put that on because it is uncomfortably cold to be in a T shirt. So I just I don't want that. During the afternoon, I say, screw this, I'm just setting it to seventy nine so it's not running that often. 01:17:46 Speaker 3: I would rather. 01:17:47 Speaker 10: I would rather put a sweatshirt on than turn the heat up, like turn the AC up any higher, or or especially with the winter here in Arizona, I'll I'll open wain knows and just turn the AC off or like the air off. But I would rather put a sweatshirt on, put a beanie on, put sweats on. Then I would turn that thing. 01:18:09 Speaker 4: So this is that was waiting Russ. 01:18:11 Speaker 7: That was me when I was at when I was at Gitmo, so where we had these barracks that were basically like corrugated steel, you know, kind of like like temporary barracks that people were living in. And so you're in Cuba, right, so the middle of the summer, That's exactly what I did. 01:18:27 Speaker 4: Man. 01:18:28 Speaker 7: I just cranked that ac like as low as it would go, and I put like all my sweats on, like all my pet sweats. 01:18:34 Speaker 4: And then when I would. 01:18:35 Speaker 7: Go out to like you know, it's like a Saturday, so not on duty or whatever, and I would go out to the defact to go get to go get food, I would forget that it's hot outside. So I'd feel like I have all my sweats on, and then I'd take one step outside like, oh. 01:18:51 Speaker 5: No, I've been a horrible decision. 01:18:53 Speaker 4: That's like run back. That's a change. 01:18:55 Speaker 3: That's how it happens. 01:18:56 Speaker 10: Like in Arizona, It'll be like one hundred and ten outside, it's like you'd cold. 01:19:00 Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden you walk outside, you oh crap near mine. 01:19:03 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is honest. 01:19:05 Speaker 9: Is why I feel like I've adapted to the desert here, which is yeah, seventy nine is kind of warm, but it's also about twenty five to thirty five degrees cooler than it is outside. And I think that's what you need, is you need, you need that element of distinction. 01:19:19 Speaker 5: But I'll be I'll be honest. I find it a little annoying when it's hyper a seed. 01:19:25 Speaker 9: So if I go to a store and it's one hundred and fifteen degrees outside and then they're a seeing it down to sixty one degrees or something, it's annoying because, among other things, it means I have to wear long sleeves outside because I'm going to be going into the deep freeze anytime I go to a store. 01:19:42 Speaker 5: It just the contrast gets a little annoying. 01:19:44 Speaker 6: That about Arizona. 01:19:46 Speaker 8: Arizona, it's like you're too hot outside and you're too cold inside. Because everybody runs the ac at like sixty five in Arizona, it's obscene. Seventy four that's comfortable. You don't have to wear sweatshirts and all this stuff inside and then and outside you get well acclimated. I mean, hey, here's the thing is crazy, but at least we're not dying in mass like like thereon your that's true. 01:20:08 Speaker 7: Well kind of look before we close out, because I never get into time. I've got to read this take from Sarah Salveander on X It's so perfect, where she writes about the heat wave she talks about in Europe. She talks about how in France apparently already a thousand people, like a thousand people have died because of excess heat, and she writes, and yet there's still they're still not allowing ac And she writes, you can't squatch the religious impulse. If you remove God, it will just manifest in other ways. In secular religion, there is an abundant guilt and atonement, but little love and forgiveness. The rituals of atonement are harsh, sometimes to the point of death. Mercy. You deserve no mercy. The earth will not take the punishment for your sins. As Christ did you will? You are the human sacrifice for the sins of humankind. 01:21:04 Speaker 9: So that gets me thinking a funny thing, which would be we're used to in Christianity, we'll have Lent and fast, so Jack, you know, we can't have meat on Fridays. Actually, I'm a fan of the total meat fast during Lent. 01:21:15 Speaker 5: Because that's what traditionally was. We're used to fasting from certain foods or a certain conduct. Would it actually be a sound religious fast to just fast from a c for a period of time? What if we did anyway? 01:21:31 Speaker 9: I mean the desert the earliest Christian monks, they went and they lived in the desert. They were just chilling out there. John the Baptist, he went and he. 01:21:37 Speaker 7: Went, that would be like that would because because Ramat on the East coast is like it's cold during Lent, So would I have. 01:21:45 Speaker 5: To fast from heating eat? 01:21:48 Speaker 9: I think that would be a very traditional that would be a very traditional way of I would do it. 01:21:54 Speaker 4: I would do I wouldn't do it for my kids, but I would do it. 01:21:58 Speaker 9: I want to try this now, turn off, I could turn off the apartment. That's actually this could be a fun experiment. This could be a fun experiment. Yeah, I turn off my A C in my apartment and I see if I die, that. 01:22:12 Speaker 4: Is on live stream. 01:22:14 Speaker 5: You have to live I don't. I'm not sure I want to. 01:22:16 Speaker 3: I don't. 01:22:17 Speaker 5: I'm not sure I want to live stream. 01:22:18 Speaker 3: The stream just ends because his whole. 01:22:21 Speaker 4: Will be like heyes, anyone check on Blake today. 01:22:25 Speaker 9: Honestly, the scariest thing I'm thinking of is how much like horrifying like bacterial growth would happen if it was like if I was in a place that was one hundred and ten degrees and also reasonably human, way. 01:22:38 Speaker 4: Still have circulation. No one saying you can't have circulation. 01:22:42 Speaker 8: Yeah, you can still have deodorant, Blake, and deodorant, yes, suck. Oh my gosh, on that, Maia, Yeah. 01:22:54 Speaker 7: Deodorant, Jack, that's actually a sacrifice for everyone around Blake. 01:22:59 Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. 01:23:01 Speaker 8: That would be a heck of a punishment, a sacrifice. 01:23:04 Speaker 9: You guys can just keep telling me about your dreams, you guys. All, you guys are all dreaming of this to happen. 01:23:07 Speaker 5: The acless full man musk Blake unleashed on the world. 01:23:12 Speaker 9: Oh gosh, that's what's really weird to say. 01:23:16 Speaker 5: The sacrifice see Jack's kids are on board of it. 01:23:19 Speaker 7: Now, Jack, Jack, all right, Jack, what do you think about this? So mister Blake still here, he's half listening. Mister Blake says, what if we do for Lent next year? Now, he's saying air conditioning because he lives in Arizona it's very hot, but for us during Lent it's cold. 01:23:32 Speaker 4: What if we did no heat in our house for all of Lent? 01:23:40 Speaker 5: Do you want to try that? 01:23:43 Speaker 4: You think mama would like that? Yeah? That'll worked really well. All right, good, you can be the one to tell her. 01:23:52 Speaker 9: We're gonna build our spiritual discipline. We're gonna get closer to God and the Holy Spirit. We're gonna we're gonna sacrifice for for spiritual discipline. 01:24:01 Speaker 6: All right, Jack, Fair enough? Take us home. 01:24:03 Speaker 7: Brother, ladies and gentlemen, go out there and commit more though crime. 01:24:13 Speaker 5: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com