THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 130 — Kool-Aid Pineapples? Christian Energy Drinks? Zoomer Hollywood Takeover?

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He's a very old man and we are very very excited for him. And as such, yes, he has taken the day off. But let's see who we do have around with us around the room. I believe we have Russ Bae. Whre's russ Man. We've got We've got Blake holding it down hoorrah and back after I mean the audience didn't really ask for him back, but he's he's here anyway. It's Mikey. 00:02:13 Speaker 4: Great topics, not so great guests. 00:02:16 Speaker 2: No, guests are a little little little lackluster. What can I say, scrape in the bottom of the bargain bin for for for this week. But you know, but we will persevere. We will indeed persevere. What are we starting with? Guys? What are we what are we going with to start out? 00:02:31 Speaker 5: Do we want to start with the energy drinks because I think that flows into our experiment. 00:02:35 Speaker 2: I don't I don't get the energy drinks thing. I don't even know what this is. So so you guys don't have to leave me through. 00:02:39 Speaker 5: This, Russ, I think you are our biggest energy drink expert. So introduce the Jesus story. 00:02:44 Speaker 3: Cheers, cheers, cheers. Tell us about Jesus juice. Yeah, so Jesus juice. This has become a. 00:02:51 Speaker 2: Fact, not that Jesus juice, right, Russ? 00:02:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, no. I actually I've never tried any of these, the these Christian energy drinks, but it's become a add that content creator. Christian content creators are starting to create these Christian energy drinks and to counteract the you know the existence of Monster and Red Bull and uh yeah, well it's it's actually kind of funny because this kind of goes full circle for me because when I first started like drinking energy drinks, I have a very like granola mom. So first off, she was like, oh, well it's bad for you. It's you know, it's gonna kill you all of this, and then she started sending me Facebook stuff about the fact that like monster is like the mark of the beast and all of this, all of this like demonic, demonic stuff, and actually we do have I found. 00:03:51 Speaker 5: We found hold on, well, hold on, it is the mark of the beast. Apparently this is I guess Brew numerals. Their way of showing six is very similar to each column on the monster label. That's kind of disturbing. Have they come have they ever commented on this? I don't really what it looks like. 00:04:14 Speaker 3: That's like, see, that's see Jack, That's where I'm at to, like, I agree. I'm like there with you. I'm like, I think that's so. 00:04:22 Speaker 2: I'll throw something else out. That's that's also in Greek. Isn't that just the symbol for for g for gamma. 00:04:32 Speaker 3: I have to look this up, Yeah, I know, I have to. 00:04:34 Speaker 5: Also, gamma would be the other direction. 00:04:37 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, it's the other direction. It looks like a all right, well pretty clear. Okay, it looks like it looks like an F without. 00:04:43 Speaker 2: The okay, so monsters, but it's pretty close to a number of other things. That's all I'm saying. 00:04:50 Speaker 5: Okay, so so monsters demonic. But now I'm looking here and we've got there's a lot. I thought this would be about one Christian energy drink. 00:04:58 Speaker 3: There's a lot. 00:04:59 Speaker 5: But we have Yahweh Energy and they have the very blessed flavor. We have a Gape Energy with peachin preach and peach and we have forgiven with the number four. Are there others? Are there more than these? 00:05:17 Speaker 3: There's they're coming. Oh, there's Praise Energy Energy. That's the one that's most recent. Because the guy is like, he's become very popular on TikTok and and so he was like, hey, I'm coming out with a Christian Energy. 00:05:32 Speaker 5: Praise Energy's mascot Zion the Lion Zion. The Lion is a cartoon lion sporting an iHeart Jesus T shirt and high top sneakers. And then there's air Lion, whose mascot feels like it should be a cartoon lion. But there's Airline is just another brand. Oh it's a totally different brand that doesn't have a lion as How can there be this many Christian energy drink brands? 00:05:56 Speaker 3: How many? 00:05:57 Speaker 5: How many energy drinks do you need to sell to. 00:05:59 Speaker 3: Make a profit on this. 00:06:00 Speaker 2: I mean because because what they're doing is it's these are all just these are all just white labels for each various influencer. So it's it's probably not very much different in terms of what's actually in the can. It's just what's different, Like they're like many of the I'm just guessing, I'm you know, it's kind of like what's probably being done is that they're being made at one place and then each person is getting their own label on it, and then you know what goes out is like who gets who markets what? So who gets the you know, who gets the markup on it. 00:06:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's kind of like what Jake Paul did with I assume started his energy drink and that kind of stuff. It's like it's like if you're if you're at any influencer worth their salt, you're gonna come out with an energy drink at some Pointila company. Yeah exactly. 00:06:46 Speaker 4: So it's like every single celebrity. 00:06:48 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:06:49 Speaker 5: So the natural follow up to this, I guess this is silly. I find it funny. But the big question is is this is this good or bad? Or is it even a moral question? Is is it good for Christians? Christian influencers to come out with a Christian branded energy drink. Is this is this grifting? Is this sinful to do? Is it totally fine? Are you representing the faith in the public square kind of the way in and out has Bible versus on their fries? What's the right way to go about this? Mike you, how do you feel about it? 00:07:23 Speaker 4: I don't think there's any problem with this. 00:07:25 Speaker 6: It's like it's it reminds me of the right wing economy that we've built. You know, everybody who's canceling conservatives, didn't like conservatives shop at certain places, canceled their accounts, canceled their banks, and then we came up with our own banking system, and we came up with our own right wing economy. And I don't think there's a problem with Christians doing the same thing. But also, like i'm i'm I talked about this earlier, Like you see Arabic writing and you immediately think of Islam, Like I want so much Christian, like this Christian economy to be built in the US that anytime you see English you just immediately think of Christianity. And I don't care if it's like, I don't care if it's energy drinks, I don't care if it's a coffee company. I don't care if it's Jeremy's razors. Like whatever it is, as long as it is true. And you know, a good like a good, virtuous company that's not supporting planned parenthood and nasty things like yeah, build your own, build your own company. 00:08:19 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:08:19 Speaker 5: And I think about I had a friend who went once to I think it was Ghana he visited, and one of the things he said that stood out to him there is actually how incredibly aggressively Christian a lot of random businesses might be. And so he mentioned I think he saw like he died for your sins barbershop basically, or like washed in the blood of the lamb, some other business, bakery, something like that, but something like that. And I guess that did actually sound pretty moving to me in the sense obviously they might be good or bad Christians, but it is we often say, if you are a Christian, people should know you're a Christian. One of the best things about Charlie is every single aspect of his life was pervaded with faith. And I guess it would sound a little picky then if someone releases, oh I'm gonna release an energy drink to go with my brand, and yeah, it's going to have Christian labeling on it. Because I'm a Christian. I guess it would be weird to get too upset about it. But I can definitely imagine versions of this that would be upsetting to me. But it'd probably be upsetting for the same reason a non religious brand might be upsetting. 00:09:21 Speaker 3: Fair I think the I think the the counter are The counterweight in my head with all of this is that the problem today is that a lot of people do not take pride in their work or they turned something like this. Specifically, when it comes to influencers, this becomes just a gimmick. So then they're putting they don't care what's in the product, they don't care how it's made, and so then you're now you're just, hey, it's just a gimmick. And at the same time, when you look at like, you know, the Bible talks about that we that were supposed to be hard workers and and everything. I think, I think if you're going to make, if you're going to put Christian labeling on any type of product you need to make, it needs to stand up to other products and and and show that you've actually put in, you know, the work and the effort. In my opinion, you know what, do you think I agree with that? 00:10:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I I disagree completely. I think this is incredibly simple. I'm just gonna say it, like, I think this is really immoral unless people are like giving these away for free or something like if you're making money off of like selling stuff in in the name of Christ, like what is wrong with you? You know, if and unless you're not donating like the vast massed majority of revenue that comes in from this to you know, to some kind of charitable organization or you know, to an actual Christian organization, then like and but if it's just influencers doing this, I mean that's that's like, like, yeah, that's that's like kind of stuff you go to Hell for. Like, you don't you don't use Christ's image and likeness as a way to put money in your pocket. You just shouldn't do that. And this is obviously we see Jesus in the Bible being very very explicit about throwing the money changers out of the temple that you were not supposed to mix these two things. So yeah, I actually I hadn't known about this. I'd never heard about this huge problem. 00:11:26 Speaker 5: Huge what about So where I can imagine, for example, Christian bookstores exist that sell Christian books, or we're having a Passion of the Christ sequel come out that is I believe going to be a for profit film. Certainly the actors in the film are. 00:11:43 Speaker 3: All prophet going to be making money off of it. 00:11:45 Speaker 5: Yeah, so is there what things are acceptable and what things aren't I suppose in your view? 00:11:51 Speaker 2: Jack, Yeah, Well again, I mean you're you're making an apples to oranges comparison. You're comparing like going to see a movie or which which again tells the story of Christ, or going to read a book which tells story Christ or has some analysis on Christ that's not going into some influencer's pocket. Right, You're you're talking about something that's mass media versus just like a cheap product. 00:12:11 Speaker 5: But I'm not sure I see I see the difference there, Like could you could you do it with the product? So for example, but they're not product the product. You can actually I get what you're trying to say, a witness to the gospel on it somewhere like right next to the nutrition facts or something. It could be like some brief. 00:12:28 Speaker 2: In and out, No, like in and out. I think does it the right way? I think even though as as as everyone knows I. 00:12:34 Speaker 3: I think I do it the right way. 00:12:39 Speaker 2: Cringe, like it's super cringe. Is it cringe? 00:12:42 Speaker 4: Or are they going to hell? Because you said that this this is the stuff people go to hell for. 00:12:46 Speaker 2: So you're saying, definitely, you don't if the influencers selling kind of stuff, you will go to help. 00:12:51 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, so the influencers selling this are going to hell? 00:12:54 Speaker 3: Yes? 00:12:55 Speaker 4: Okay, where's that biblical? Exactly? 00:12:57 Speaker 2: Yeah? What again? Literally just gave you the example of throwing out the money changers Christ. 00:13:03 Speaker 4: Flipping the tables. 00:13:04 Speaker 6: Yeah, how's how is that how they were in the tem draw comparison? 00:13:09 Speaker 5: These are the exactly. 00:13:12 Speaker 2: Again, like you're being you're you're being very like like word centric. Again, as Christ said, we're not supposed to take the it's it's the spirit of the law versus the letter of the law. So what he's saying is you shouldn't mix worship with commerce. That's the point. 00:13:28 Speaker 5: Well, okay, but let's go back to the movie. 00:13:30 Speaker 2: Then. 00:13:30 Speaker 5: I think then you could argue then they shouldn't sell tickets for the movie. They should only put on broadcasts of the movie and people can go for free. 00:13:38 Speaker 2: If I were if I were going to put out something religious like like you know, in in this vein, you know, I would I would definitely do something with the profits that wasn't going directly in my pocket one hundred. I wouldn't put that on my letter. 00:13:54 Speaker 3: Okay, absolutely, But a lot of these people are not like That's kind of the thing is like a lot of this stuff is it's all for profit. Mel Gibson's movie talking about Jesus is for profit. It's showing the of Jesus. He's probably going to donate some of it, but a lot of that is going to be to pay him. It's to pay the actors, it's to pay you know, it's to pay all of these people. 00:14:18 Speaker 2: I'm not saying don't make movies about Jesus. I want to be clear about that. I'm not saying don't make movies. I do also think that movies are a fundamentally different thing, which for some reason, you guys don't seem to understand. 00:14:27 Speaker 5: I'm not sure. 00:14:31 Speaker 2: You're all much younger and more immature than friend Andrew. 00:14:35 Speaker 6: But because you're young you're stupid, right. 00:14:40 Speaker 2: Well, generally yes, but not that young people are pretty stupid. 00:14:42 Speaker 5: But no, I think I'm not sure I see the clear cut distinction here. 00:14:47 Speaker 3: I will agree with Christian movies energy drinks. 00:14:52 Speaker 4: No, I don't think Christian merchandise. 00:14:55 Speaker 5: Can you be a worship enabled. 00:14:56 Speaker 2: Energy drink in a movie? 00:14:58 Speaker 1: Like? 00:14:58 Speaker 2: Really? 00:14:59 Speaker 5: No, I don't I don't be I don't see the difference in terms of this is a commercial product you will pay money for, other people will pay money for, and it will enrich somebody if this product does well. And so if you were saying these drinks might be okay if someone was giving them away, well, they're not giving away the money. 00:15:20 Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm consistent on this. I've also said in the past that I'm I'm not a fan of those those apps where like you pay to pray, they have like they have like fees that that you can pay along to pray, like like, oh, we've got pray extra with this fee and pay it. It's like not a fan. 00:15:38 Speaker 5: Really, Yeah, that caused a lot of problems for the church five hundred years ago too. 00:15:45 Speaker 7: I want to talk to you about an issue so many Americans face, and that's health insurance. There's an organization I really really appreciate called Christian Healthcare Ministries CHM is a faith based alternative to health insurance. And this is real stuff, Folks like you've gotta listen in. With HM. You're not paying into a company's profit margin. You're investing in a community with less overhead than the competition. 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That's schministries dot org slash Charlie and use promo code, Charlie. 00:17:00 Speaker 5: No, No, I think I think this is a genuinely very interesting topic because again, like I'm thinking, as an example, let's say you were running a barber shop. So let's just use it as an example. 00:17:12 Speaker 2: Well, I can explain the difference very clearly if you want me to. So a story that a film that shares the story of Christ to a to a mass audience is by is inherently going out into the world and sharing the gospel. An energy drink that is just an energy drink with a picture of Jesus on it is just extracting money from a community of Christian followers and putting in your pocket. 00:17:42 Speaker 5: Okay, but what if they put Bible verses on the drink? What if they pay to have the drink or they market to have the drink in neutral environments where it could be encountered by a non believer. 00:17:52 Speaker 2: I think if you didn't call it yahweh juice or whatever they called it, and it just had Bible verses, that'd be fine. 00:17:59 Speaker 3: I'm on, I'm a little two sided on both of this because I think I am a fan of subtlety in the sense just what Jack said in and out is a perfect example. If they're not throwing it in your face, but if you happen to look at the bottom of your cup, you're going to see a Bible first. At the same time perfect. Another perfect example is Chick fil A. Like they are very clear on what their organization's morals are, and yes, they've taken a bigger stance than a lot of companies by saying, hey, we're not going to be open on Sundays, but it's not it's not in your face. Right. Culture has pretty much accepted that, hey, I can't go to Chick fil A. 00:18:38 Speaker 5: When we say, I think what we say it's not in your face? What do we actually say? I think a lot of people just say they don't want it in their face because they think it's kind of annoying if something is wait wait wait, can I get it actually bad or immoral to extremely loudly say this is Christian here is Christianity. Here's all this Christian stuff in your face. That might be annoying. But is it wrong? I'm not sure sure if it is? 00:19:01 Speaker 2: No, no, And by I'm also not I'm also you know. I've also said many times that I'm a huge fan of like street preachers. When you know, we had that street preacher in uh in Chaz you know, years ago, I was right there able to interview him when he got assaulted. You know, that's something I think those guys are great. I think they're absolutely great. But again they're they're not they're not charging people like this. And again this the sin doesn't come just from the activity. It comes from what's in the person's heart. So you know, it could be something where they don't realize that how sinful it is, you know, something where they may need to understand later. The one I want to give you example, a better example of though, is have you are you guys familiar with Sweet Frog? Have you heard about Sweet Frog? Do you know what that is? 00:19:43 Speaker 5: It sounds like a yogurt company? 00:19:45 Speaker 2: It is is yogurt company. Indeed, Oh wow, And how did you know that? Yeah, it's in the it's in the DC area, which is which is maybe why you've heard of it. And so it's Sweet Frog yogurt. And you know, I just know because it's a it's a yogurt brand in the area. I mean, they have about three hundred three and fifty different you know, apparently they have one in Scotsdale as well, and you know they have a bunch of locations whatever. But here's what I didn't even know until Tanya mentioned it to me the other day that apparently Frog in Sweet Frog is a reference to christ even though their mascot is a frog. 00:20:26 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, Okay, I looked this up. I thought it was the other company, because in fact, there was a Sweet Frog a block from my place in DC and I went to it. I didn't know what was a Christian thing. 00:20:35 Speaker 2: No, no, you never know that. So to rush to your point, this is where like the subtlety goes a little bit too awry because it's like too clever by half, and and they say, you know Frog, Okay, so Frog, the frog part of the name stands for fully rely on God, which is really bizarre to me. 00:21:00 Speaker 5: Almost reminds me of Nintendo, Yeah, the video game company. Technically, I mean, they're not Christian, but they're they're Japanese names essentially like leave it to Heaven more or less like Heaven's brilliance. 00:21:10 Speaker 2: I've never known that. That's cool. 00:21:12 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I want to get a few because we have the chat getting them all first. Zoo Zoo's pedals is always around, and she points out that Hope Harvard had a Christian makeup line and she spoke at the Young Women's Leadership Summit in the past. 00:21:26 Speaker 2: Uh. 00:21:26 Speaker 5: That strikes me as I guess I don't know the details of this makeup brand, but I think that's just a good example of and also we should know Erica herself has proclaim which is Christian. 00:21:38 Speaker 3: But there's a difference between. 00:21:39 Speaker 2: Being like being Christian and like saying that that this is christ you know what I mean? 00:21:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think even. 00:21:49 Speaker 2: Christian in general and like having Could it be that your yahweh Jews? 00:21:55 Speaker 5: Could the could the problem be specifically putting Jesus on the can? 00:21:58 Speaker 3: I I agree with that one. 00:21:59 Speaker 5: I could see. 00:22:00 Speaker 2: I see that because I mean, I think that's a big part of it. 00:22:03 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's I think that's a good point. I also want to get Sandra because she's also says Jack specifically on the point of view of the can and it mostly being sold to Christians. Jack, if you carry the drinks around another see it, they might in turn see that you are a Christian and start conversations similar to wearing a faith based T shirt. So do you have any thoughts on that from Sandra. 00:22:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I think that being Christian in public is good. I have obviously advocated for that for many years. But at the same time, you know, I don't think you should put money in your pocket for it. People got on me about, you know, having a rosary for example, and you know, people will say, oh, Pozobic is like selling the rosaries, And in fact I've I've always turned down whenever anyone's offered me any partnerships for that, I said, no, I'm more than happy to post it. I'll tell people where they can get, you know, whatever rosary it is that I'm you know that I that I have, But I just I wouldn't feel right taking money for that. 00:23:02 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:23:02 Speaker 6: I think the best argument Russ was what you made at the beginning, Like and Jackie mentioned this. These are just a bunch of white labels and they're not checking the quality of this. 00:23:10 Speaker 4: They're not. It's more of like a get rich quick thing. 00:23:13 Speaker 6: I think when it's sinful is buy this because you know God wants you to buy this, Buy this because you know God wants us to support each other by this, because prosperity gospel. 00:23:24 Speaker 4: Instead of Christians participate. 00:23:26 Speaker 6: In the market, you knows saying that they want to glorify God through their business. But I do want to say I don't think that this is like a hell driven thing, Like I don't think you're gonna go to Hell for doing this in fact, and I don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water water either, like Erica participates with proclaimed streetwear, like does this also mean? Does this also mean that like worship artists who are getting paid for their worship songs that mean they're going to hell? 00:23:52 Speaker 4: Like clothing brand company? 00:23:55 Speaker 2: I think, I think I do. And it's it's kind of like Blake helped me, you know, put in words better, was that you know, the reason the difference is because you're not walking around saying like yahweh clothes or you know, yahweh band. It's it's just songs about God. That's that's a band that is Christian or a a apparel company that is Christian. It's different when you're you know, really just kind of leaning in and using Jesus as like a brand that you can make money off of. Yeah, like a mass. 00:24:29 Speaker 3: When you say that's why I also have a problem with Christian like the the like pro like the Christian movie side of things, where it's just it's so forced and then the quality isn't good. 00:24:41 Speaker 5: Well sometimes it's just bad because it's bad. 00:24:43 Speaker 3: But that's the quality part, right, Yeah, that's that. 00:24:49 Speaker 5: That is so similar here, just because it makes me wonder if. 00:24:55 Speaker 2: If people are doing that because they just want to make money from a Christian audience, then that would be simple if if they're actually not caring. 00:25:02 Speaker 5: Because yeah, but who's to say. 00:25:04 Speaker 6: That these energy drink companies, Like who's to say some of the owners of these don't actually have a good heart behind this? 00:25:10 Speaker 4: And who's to say they don't. 00:25:11 Speaker 6: Actually have yeah exactly, which is like, well do you who calls evil good and good evil? 00:25:16 Speaker 4: Like, don't be so quick to judge. 00:25:18 Speaker 6: What if they are actually donating a majority of their profits to charities in churches? If they are, Like, I'm going to be quicker to give them the benefit of the doubt than I am to say that they're going to help. 00:25:29 Speaker 5: But one least question on this and then I think we'll look on because we have a very fun food related topic. 00:25:35 Speaker 2: Money changers. 00:25:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, but so real. 00:25:38 Speaker 5: One final question is is there a difference? So we were talking about products here with an energy drink. Let's suppose a nominally angel business. I mentioned a barber shop, but maybe a restaurant too, Like let's imagine an Italian restaurant, but maybe it has a biblically inflected name like Bread of Life or something. And then it's maybe the restaurant has a lot of religious decorations in it, might have crosses on the wall, might have Jesus art in various but it's just you can imagine a very aggressively Christian restaurant when you're in it, and obviously you can't really. 00:26:09 Speaker 4: Make Jesus food. 00:26:11 Speaker 3: It's it's just. 00:26:12 Speaker 5: Gonna be normal food. But is it exploitative to make your restaurant extremely aggressively religious in the sense that you might be blackmailings too aggressive of ward, but you're trying, you're trying to essentially cash in on to some extent on I want Christians to want to come here because it's a super Christian restaurant Lake. 00:26:32 Speaker 2: So, are there the word you're looking for? Perhaps Christ's blaitation. 00:26:38 Speaker 5: Christ's ploitation potentially, Yeah. 00:26:39 Speaker 2: I think Christ's bloitation is bad. Being Christian is good. That's That's where I'm gonna that's where I'm gonna That's where I'm gonna fall on. 00:26:46 Speaker 3: I think, I actually, I think to Mikey's point, it all has to do with the heart, right, it has to do with is you know, is the owner a Christian that he wants that in his store. If that's the case, then but to you guys point, like if he's just exploiting, Hey, I can make money because Christians will be gullible enough to come come to my restaurant because they see all of the iconography, then you know. 00:27:10 Speaker 6: But also to Jack's point, it's James, I think James three to one, which is just teachers are held to a more strict standard and they'll be judged to a more strict standard. 00:27:21 Speaker 4: So if you are doing this in a way, you. 00:27:23 Speaker 6: Are a teacher, and so you do actually really need to make sure that your heart is in the right place, because if it's not in the right place, and this is just like a prosperity gospel money grab thing, that is a problem that you are sinning in the in the midst of that. Because you are technically a teacher, you're sharing the gospel, You're participating and sharing the gospel, you're putting it out there and then one of you guys said it earlier. This could lead to conversations about Christ. If that's your heart, that's a good thing. 00:27:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, but my house shall be called a house of prayer, and you are making it a den of robbers. 00:27:56 Speaker 5: All right, Well, speaking of hearts, we need to talk to something that might cause heart failure. So we have another food related endeavor. This has gone viral and I saw it and I thought, we've got to get into this, all right, So we have highlights. There's a new fad of food. It's on TikTok, It's on Instagram, It's on every online platform. 00:28:15 Speaker 3: Everywhere. 00:28:16 Speaker 5: It is people putting pineapples and kool Aid. Run the highlight reel. That is clip thirteen. Speak, I'm boy trying the strawberry Kiwi the juice. 00:28:39 Speaker 8: That way you gonna do It'll tell you, hey, you can put your juice on some I can make sure she was. 00:28:44 Speaker 2: A little. 00:28:47 Speaker 4: That's the medals one. 00:28:49 Speaker 5: So I've been seeing everybody's kool Aid pineapple recipes, so let me show you guys how I make mine. 00:28:53 Speaker 2: First, we start off with the peanut, pineapple. 00:28:55 Speaker 3: And the cherry. Let's go ahead and get that up in there. 00:29:00 Speaker 5: Now you're in nice and ripe. 00:29:05 Speaker 2: Let's go hole bad. 00:29:07 Speaker 3: Right here, the viral kool Aid pineapples. These go for twenty dollars a pot. What you think, man, ducy, Yeah, I appreciate you dog. 00:29:19 Speaker 5: So for those who can't see, this is the latest hot trend in the black culinary world. They are making containers of kool Aid. They're adding extra sugar to it, and then they are soaking pineapple spears in it, and they're leaving them overnight to flavor them. And I saw that and I only had one thought enter my head. I've got to try this. And so yesterday Ryan and I went to the supermarket and let me show you, right, you are lucky to be here. 00:29:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. 00:29:49 Speaker 1: We have this, no, no, this, Oh, we have more. 00:30:01 Speaker 3: Dark cherry. 00:30:02 Speaker 5: We have dark cherry. We have grape, we have tropical punch. We have the we took, we add bottle water and then were in made them. 00:30:09 Speaker 2: You made these. 00:30:10 Speaker 5: We made we made these. We left them overnight the proper amount of seasoning. And we're gonna try where do you leave them? 00:30:17 Speaker 2: Do you leave them in the fridge? Do you leave them outside? 00:30:20 Speaker 5: Just in the fridge, just a fridge overnight and you add extra sugar. So I think we added about afa cup of sugar each of these jars. 00:30:28 Speaker 2: And I were like, oh gosh, sorry, we're not in studio. I didn't work out with the schedule. Sorry about that. What are you gonna do? 00:30:37 Speaker 5: Alright? So I'm going I'm gonna try the tropical punch one here. I've got to find. 00:30:42 Speaker 3: Out what this is like. 00:30:44 Speaker 5: All right, So this is tropical punch pineapple with kool Aid. Let's let's see how we go. I'm ready to rate this. 00:30:57 Speaker 2: Not about eating the pineapple now, not bad going in. 00:31:02 Speaker 3: I wouldn't eat this. 00:31:05 Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. 00:31:07 Speaker 5: It's sugary, way too much sugar, but like it's like a it's like a funnel cake. It's like a junk food I could have at a baseball game, at a jazz festival. I would on all right, I'm endorsing this. I am endorsing kool Aid pineapple to the world. I don't know if I would make it in my washing machine. I feel like other stuff's gone through that washing machine. There was a videos I a guy was making it in his washing. 00:31:31 Speaker 3: There was a video I saw a guy went to Costco and bought literally like a palette full of jarred pineapple to do this. It's good, not bad. This is great. 00:31:43 Speaker 5: You're missing out, Jack, You're missing out, Mikey. 00:31:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are missing out. 00:31:49 Speaker 7: As an advocate of truth, you know that women shouldn't have to share locker rooms with men, women shouldn't have to compete against male athletes, and they shouldn't be punished for speaking the truth. But across America, that's exactly what's happening. Men are being allowed to compete in women's sports, robbing girls of scholarships, medals, titles, and safety. Now, the US Supreme Court has heard two cases West Virginia VBPJ and Little v. Heacocks that could decide the future of women's sports nationwide. 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Do we have this? 00:33:13 Speaker 5: Cut? 00:33:14 Speaker 4: It went super viral. 00:33:16 Speaker 6: It was like this young white kid and it was like a modern cash me outside. 00:33:20 Speaker 4: How about that moment we have it clip seventeen when we had to play this the big guy appreciate it? 00:33:37 Speaker 5: Yes, sir, tried to take these out and they just splatter everywhere. 00:33:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, they really do. 00:33:44 Speaker 5: Do you want to do? 00:33:44 Speaker 4: That was the first time I watched. 00:33:47 Speaker 5: Otherwise I'm a coward. 00:33:49 Speaker 4: Did you drink the liquid? Blake? Can you? Can you give it a gulp? 00:33:53 Speaker 5: I'm not, I'm not. I'm not slurping the liquid. That's uh, that's the way to die, that way, lies Per. We were just talking about what could make you go to hell? Well, I'm I think I think gluttony is a sin, and I think literally just drinking half a cup of sugar in your kool Aid water because you're just that decadent for sweets, that might that might violate a commandments. 00:34:14 Speaker 4: No, I'm not doing it either, blactivities. 00:34:18 Speaker 5: All right, So this is black cherry. 00:34:20 Speaker 3: So here's the problem with slurping it. You cannot see through this. That's the pros. That's the issue. There's so much there's so much stuff in here that you just can't. That's a problem. To me. 00:34:32 Speaker 5: That's too much black black cherry. Kool Aid pineapple is amazing. I mean, I'm giving that my full, unambiguous maximum endorsement. That is amazing. You guys, gotta you, guys, gotta go get this. It takes twenty four hours. 00:34:48 Speaker 3: Wow, this is my favorite. Uh definitely not Maha approved, just so everybody's aware. 00:34:55 Speaker 5: Oh oh yeah, well I think Alex Clark shamed me on next one. 00:34:59 Speaker 2: Okay, but could you could you make a Maha version of I mean you're talking about pineapple and sweet flavoring? Could you make a Maha version of this? O? 00:35:11 Speaker 5: Could? 00:35:11 Speaker 3: I mean, yes, would taste. I think it would just be more pineapple forward at the end of the day. 00:35:19 Speaker 5: Now I'm imagining like healthy kool aid and you put in stevia observed pineapple stevia might not taste great at feel like that you would lose some of the spirit of it, because I think part of the spirit of this is it is a completely ridiculous food to actually con Dylan in. 00:35:35 Speaker 3: The chat goes watch Blake pull up to the hood to get his to get his FI. This is great, it's good too. Is definitely. This is definitely like a nice little a little like snack. But don't don't make this a normal thing, because. 00:35:54 Speaker 5: All right, you guys, I mean, I hope everyone should. Everyone should get this. This is this is amazing. Everyone everyone in chat should try kool Aid pineapple. 00:36:03 Speaker 4: At least try. 00:36:04 Speaker 3: It's a fun it's a fun little activity. 00:36:06 Speaker 5: All Right. I'm so glad we did this, But we have another topic to get to. We can't marinate too long on kool Aid pineapple. Uh, Jack, you wanted to talk about the downfall of of the boomers in Hollywood. They've they're finally being vanquished. 00:36:21 Speaker 2: Well, I wasn't so sure if if I saw it as much of a generational play in this because it's not it's it's more than just this. But I'm I more wanted to talk about the fact that Star Wars specifically uh has been beaten at the box office. This this movie Mandalorian that we were that we were there, that that we let a boycott on and and then. 00:36:46 Speaker 5: Some we I think only you did, Jack. Everyone else is breaking the boycott. 00:36:50 Speaker 2: Not actually listen to, which is kind of weird when you give the audience a mission and then then the host of the show just don't follow it. But you know whatever, we'll figure out how to do podcasting one of these and or like political movements. But the situation here is that this movie that was made by a YouTuber, and then the movie back Rooms, which so that was the movie obsession. Then the movie back Rooms, which is based on you know, really just an online uh creepy pasta, which turned into kind of a YouTube trend. Both have beaten Star Wars in the past week at at the box office, and I think that's huge. 00:37:37 Speaker 4: Back Rooms and obsessions. 00:37:39 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm looking at residence. 00:37:42 Speaker 2: You're a resident media gurude, Can you give us sort of the you know, the backstory on those two films, obsession and back rooms just for anyone. Someone has no idea how you know, how it worked. They didn't really come up the traditional way, did they know? 00:37:56 Speaker 3: So the directors are so, the directors are right zoomer, just like YouTube YouTube guys. And I mean this also leads into you know, Jack, you and I talked about it when we were when we were at the All American Halftime Show. Was the other movie that came out from a YouTuber, which was Iron Lung. What's that? Yeah, exactly, and that was based off of a video game. But he's Mark a Plier is the one who directed Mark and that Jack you saw it? Did that? That made its money back? Didn't it? 00:38:33 Speaker 2: Like I have the double check, I'm pretty sure it did pretty well. Yeah, Iron Lung. I liked I liked it a lot. I thought that it could have used a little bit of editing. It was. It was over two hours, which is ambitious for a movie that only has like one one actor in it. One Yeah, I mean there's some other characters in a few scenes. But no, it was a smash hit. He spent three million on it. It made fifty million at the box office. 00:38:58 Speaker 3: And to that point. I think this comes down to what we're starting to see is this resurgence of movies that are lower budget, that are actually speaking with two audiences in a way, that are being able to take over the box office and push something out like a franchise like Star Wars. 00:39:21 Speaker 5: Well, it's funny you say that because someone was saying, oh, Star Wars, this big franchise got beaten by back rooms, and someone chimed in to basically say, actually, you only think that because you're over forty. If you're actually under thirty, this is a film that is already about a well established franchise. And I went and I looked it up. I'd never heard I'd heard of the back rooms Creepy Pasta, but I hadn't heard of this series. The first movie in the YouTube series that inspired that movie has almost one hundred million views. 00:39:47 Speaker 3: Wow. 00:39:47 Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, but it's still started with a creepy pasta. There's there's no you mean, that's just obvious that which is kind of the point one percent. 00:39:56 Speaker 5: But what it's saying is there's actually an established franchise such as it is of videos. I think there's thirty entry. It's like thirty episodes. It'd be like, in a sense, it's the modern version of making a film out of a successful TV show. And there's a lot of successful TV shows that have not had one hundred million people view their first episode. But apparently that's the case for back Rooms. That's making me aware. 00:40:20 Speaker 2: So, by the way, and and and Backrooms started on four Chan, which is crazy. So it did actually start on four Chan. So here's a question that's that's so. What we're talking about, though, isn't necessarily the establishment of the franchise. What we're talking about is the fact that there are now new paths to get to a wide audience, which is very similar to what we did with the Turning Point halftime show. We know, we use podcasts, we use you know, conservative media, independent media, to be able to get to this mass wide audience. You see this in elections when Turning Point Action does the exact same thing. We're using non traditional means to reach out to these audiences and we've success with that in terms of the viewership. Uh, they're seeing huge success at the box office, and it's kind of just showing that the traditional gatekeeper models are broken. And so the fact that there's a huge YouTube series on it is is just kind of making our point that that this indie media is actually taking off in ways that the old you know, the old system hasn't quite figured out yet, uh, Blake. I was thinking of an interesting question though, would be, how do you uh, you know, how do you credit the original author of back rooms? If it was a four Chan poster. 00:41:35 Speaker 5: Man, it'd be it'd be kind of funny if someone would like, here's here's a million dollars, and I will leave it an scrow and we'll go to a person who can come forward and conclusively, satisfactorily prove they author that post. 00:41:51 Speaker 3: That's funny. 00:41:52 Speaker 5: And speaking of boomer Boomer divide. A weird thing about this is Jack is four Chan dead? 00:41:57 Speaker 2: Now? 00:41:58 Speaker 5: I feel like I when when's the last time you thing blew up? Because it was on four chan? 00:42:03 Speaker 2: Well it's it's been so dead and it's but it's it was dying before Elon bought X, but it died completely after Elon bought X. And it's just it's just not you know, it had been brigaded too much, it had been inundated with too much, just you know, uh and on slop. You know, I don't even know what you call it just anti four Chan stuff that, Yeah, I don't think anything new has arisen there. But at the same time, a lot of that same and on energy is now just on X, And I. 00:42:34 Speaker 5: Suppose it's probably for the best because thinking about how X, thinking about how X, how four chan works, with everyone being anonymous, it would get absolutely ruined by modern AI. Everyone would just make an AI account and just spam things all over it. So in a sense, it probably died at the exact right moment where it could live on in our dreams. 00:42:54 Speaker 2: I think, I don't think it's not so much that it died, it's that it won and took over, took over the world literally. 00:43:01 Speaker 6: I also think there's a tendency for horror movies with very low budgets to go very viral and do well in the box office, Like this isn't the first time this has happened. I think it was like Blair Witch Trials was one of it, Paranormal Activities Saw was one of these, The Purge was one of these. 00:43:18 Speaker 4: Insidious was one of these. 00:43:20 Speaker 6: All of the all the movies I just named are all had like a budget under a million one point five million, like Blair Witch Trials was like twenty thousand to make and it did one hundred million in the box office. 00:43:31 Speaker 4: So there's just a tendency. 00:43:33 Speaker 6: For a lot of people who love horror movies to just support creators that are making a very low budget horror movie and then to just show up at the box office and to do it. I don't know if that's like directly tied to the fact that Star Wars Also the Mandalorian Grogu also came out around the same time. 00:43:51 Speaker 3: I also think that this has more also to say just about the people who are being put like who are doing these product actually caring about the product hilariously enough, going back to even just what we were talking about with the Christian Energy drinks, Like when you look at YouTube now and like like these directors were YouTubers. The amount of like fan films or or like or small films that you can find that on YouTube that are really highly produced but actually like hold on to the the essence of whatever they're doing in a way that you're like, oh, wow, this is really good. Like I remember, literally I just watched one of the best things I've seen in a minute. It was essentially the premise is what if Wolverine was a Viking? And honestly, probably the best depiction of Wolverine that we've seen in media in quite a bit, quite a long time. 00:44:54 Speaker 5: I can really buy that, and I think a big reason I can see it, especially in I think this is the biggest weakness of Western big budget cinema is that everything is coming through not even just a corporate architecture, but it's a heavily editor and producer driven thing. Everyone gets so many hands in the pot every single and you can get so much. You can get a lot of really terrible stuff, but the opportunity for something really brilliant when something is basically the work of one lone actor who can just decide whatever he wants, and that's how you get things that are really memorable, really iconic, really different. That's actually why the Star Weirdly, that's why the Star Wars prequels remains so iconic, because George Lucas is this weird guy who just threw all this weird stuff. And are they good movies, No, but they're incredibly memorable as there is. 00:45:42 Speaker 2: I'll say so, I haven't seen Backrooms yet. I did see Obsession, and you know, just just on that note, you know, you can tell that back Rooms has such a unique kind of story and lore and the way it's set up, and I love the way that it was created. So for people don't know what it is, it's this, it's this idea that you're you're when you go into the back room of a you know, a hotel or a shopping mall, or an office center, an office building or something, you know what really goes on in those liminal spaces, the spaces between the spaces, and you know, it's it's it's plays with that and plays with the horror of those sort of spaces. And so people would be creating their own stories. People would be creating their own versions of this. And then eventually, after it had been quite virable for you know, some time, this guy took to YouTube and you know, started making his own movies of it based on a meme that had already existed. And then that guy, in turn became I guess it was a twenty four came in and made him the director of this. And he does have some you know, he has quite a few celebrities that are that are in it. So I can't say that this is completely indie, but the process certainly is and I just incredibly unique, incredibly amazing obsession. On the other hand, good movie, but it's it's not a unique premise at all. The idea that you're gonna it's it's the Monkey's Paw. So it's just another Monkey's Paw kind of remake where he goes to a shop and finds that a you know, take this thing and you know, make one wish and I'll make whatever your wish come true. So he says, oh, I want to want this girl out my work to fall in love with me, and then she does and everything goes horribly wrong. So I mean, that's that's not really a new premise. It's it's well made. It wasn't super scary, so if you if you're not someone who's like really into horror, I would recommend it as I never check. It's not a scary movie. There is some gore, you know, here and there. I didn't particularly find anything scary in the film at all, and you know, there's there's some good suspense things like that, but yeah, just as a premise. There was that movie Ruby Sparks that came out a couple of years ago, which is more of like a romance, a comedy version of the same thing. It's got Paul Dano and I think his wife Zoe Zoe, I forget the last name, and she's the star of it, where, you know, kind of the same situation where a man controls a woman in all of this, but there's some good twists, there's some good discourse in it, and funny enough. Bishop Baron posted a long review of Obsession, which I thought was really interesting that you know, here here's Bishop Baron commenting on like the viral Zoomer movie of the summer, you know, and he had agree to take on it. He said, don't mess with the demonic, and I said, yeah, speaking of demonic and speaking of sorry more, I think that's well, just just real quick before you segue. I've always thought that that's a cool you know, that's kind of like an interesting use for horror. That it's sort of like backdoor, you know, way to hate bring people to Christ in a sense, because hey, you need to have some counterbalance to the demons. You can't follow that path. 00:49:00 Speaker 7: Charlie used to talk a lot about Angel Studios and what they were building, and as you know, I've been a longtime fan of it for the same reason. So I wanted to share some of my favorite films and shows on Angel, and I put them all into one easy to use watch list. 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Jesse Ridgeway has decided to tweet his wife's abortion. 00:50:13 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all right that yeah, yeah, wow, topic this is okay. 00:50:19 Speaker 5: Yeah, So Russ, you're familiar with who this guy is. 00:50:24 Speaker 3: I've seen some of his videos, like I've seen clips pop up on my TikTok. But he uh, he's a YouTuber called mister Jugger. 00:50:32 Speaker 5: Nuggets Jugger Nuggets and this four and a half million subs or so, yeah, four point three four million subs. 00:50:41 Speaker 3: And what I've seen is that he makes essentially like content where it's like, oh, psycho, like literally this is a. 00:50:50 Speaker 5: Fake real videos. 00:50:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, psycho dad. 00:50:52 Speaker 5: Destroys twitch to yea psycho dad runs over video games with lawn mower. 00:50:57 Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's very it's very the vlog esque style. But he's he's been vlogging, essentially vlogging his life coming from his marriage and and all of this difference. 00:51:11 Speaker 5: So one of those guys who's just publicly shown every part of his life. But that's taken a really dark turn because yesterday, so Jesse and his wife had announced they were expecting. In fact, I think that destroys switch to is like their gender reveal some nonsense like that. Yeah, and then he just announces this yesterday this week, my wife and I made the very difficult decision to terminate our pregnancy due to try something twenty one that's down syndrome, the extra chromism. The choice was not made lightly. We really appreciate all of the personal stories you guys shared with us, especially the unconditional support we received from fans no matter what we decided. So I guess he'd announced they'd found this and then left people in suspense about whether they would murder their child or not. He goes on at length. I know some of you will be very disappointed to hear. 00:51:55 Speaker 2: Any ways, Wait, Blake, so are you saying that he turned this into like like an art like an Yes? 00:52:02 Speaker 3: So literally, I kid you not. These are these are the last couple of videos that he has, the one We're having a baby two months ago. A month ago Psycho Dad destroys Nintendo switch to which was also their gender reveal, and then a month ago we received devastating news Psycho update. 00:52:21 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they even they've done live tweet videos. I'm actually gonna warn you there's nothing gory or whatever, but this is to hear them talk. This is a video. 00:52:31 Speaker 2: Can I say, is there a chance that this is all fake. No, a chance that is all. 00:52:36 Speaker 5: I hope, you know, I guess I hope it's fake, because otherwise they murdered their child. 00:52:40 Speaker 2: And that's but I mean, there's a chance that this is all. I mean, it's a YouTuber, right, so I mean you should perhaps take it with a grain of salt based off. 00:52:47 Speaker 3: This style, based off the style of his videos and the fact that he's using x rather than just using YouTube. This does not this does not come off as fake. 00:53:00 Speaker 5: And they made this clip which also, I mean, I guess they could have acted it. People can act, but they made a clip about this is kind of their decision where they found out and they're reacting to it. Clip sixteen not. 00:53:11 Speaker 8: The result we wanted to see, Guys. I started to get kind of a not good feeling just when the results were sitting here. That's why I didn't want to open them. I started to feel really uncomfortable about it, just kind of in shock. Like truly, we talked before this, guys, about what would we do if we confronted this scenario, because this was the more likely scenario. We talked about terminating the pregnancy. Obviously things could change because this is a traumatic, like very traumatic, and I know you guys even watching this, this is traumatic for the whole community. I think now that we have a definitive result, we'll talk with these counselors and we're gonna have some hard conversation. It's just all very overwhelming and confusing to navigate. Ashley is almost halfway through this thing, not saying we force it, but like, the kids seemed healthy, and there's been stories where the kid comes out and is like super functional, and so it's like, I don't know, there's a lot to digest, and we're not really going to be doing that in this video. We just wanted to let you guys in on what the results were. 00:54:24 Speaker 3: Oh, I was ready. Was unning. 00:54:31 Speaker 5: The start of our journey, you know, of the. 00:54:34 Speaker 8: Level of just try to start a family. 00:54:37 Speaker 3: This is how it starts a lot of people. 00:54:40 Speaker 8: It's not easy ever, you know, whether it's a miscarriage out the gate. Now it's hard to look at like silver linings, but I mean the fact that you can get pregnant is good. We weren't sure and it was bro it was instant. We don't know why this happens. Maybe it is a bur his control over a decade. Maybe it is just random genetic sequencing and it glitches, you know, just like cancer cells. Like sometimes it's just we don't know, I'm gonna kill the camera. 00:55:12 Speaker 5: That is one of the most dreadful videos I've ever seen in. 00:55:16 Speaker 3: My so. 00:55:18 Speaker 2: Just just to understand the context. So because he's I saw the tweet that was up there that said, we have made the decision. But decision here is this is when they got like the final confirmation. 00:55:28 Speaker 3: Uh, when they got the sheet of paper they. 00:55:33 Speaker 2: Made the decision that the point of when they were filming this correct correct. 00:55:38 Speaker 4: Okay, what an awful husband. 00:55:41 Speaker 6: Like she's crying next to him and he's basically encouraging her and encouraging. 00:55:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, exactly, Like she's like I was ready. I was so ready. He's over here like like. 00:55:52 Speaker 4: He could have he could have. 00:55:54 Speaker 6: Husband and been like the super chats, this is her time to have a family, Like, yeah, he's And. 00:56:04 Speaker 5: They go into all the all the horrible things where they're say, okay, fifty percent of babies with Down syndrome have heart defects, many have hearing challenges. I didn't realize how tough it would be for the child, let alone the family. More often than not, they would be dependent on others for the rest of their lives. So instead of that, we killed our baby. 00:56:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is such. 00:56:24 Speaker 6: Bs too, Like they're acting as though they're the victims here, Like you're killing somebody, You're killing somebody that did not have a choice, and it's and you're turning yourself into the victim. How hard it is for you? 00:56:36 Speaker 2: No, everything about this is evil. 00:56:40 Speaker 3: Just wait, it gets worse because we have. 00:56:43 Speaker 2: To add just to add that, because remember they're monetizing. 00:56:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're monetizing their griefs. 00:56:50 Speaker 2: Please and and murder. They're they're monetizing the murder of a of a child, and they're saying that you know, as you say, they're the victim. So I mean, yeah, we talked. I talked about exploitation earlier, but this is like exploitation of scene itself. 00:57:07 Speaker 5: It's literally on because I have the tweet open, it's suggested as a follow to me, and it just does four million on YouTube, two billion views. Creator of Psycho series. It just it's incredibly upsetting for me to just see all of his I am an influencer, here's how successful I am as an influencer. He kills his baby and then the whole process is live blogged from beginning to end. Oh we just got our test results. Here's our reaction. And even maybe someone else did this edit, but I suspect they did this themselves. If that clip they did, it's got those those jump cut like little edits where oh we have to cut out dead hair. 00:57:46 Speaker 3: The original video was three minutes. I think somebody clipped it down some of the pauses, but to make matters worse, throw up fifteen. He has a series of tweets that a year ago his dog was diagnosed with stage four cancer, and I kid you not. In this tweet, it's literally says one of the saddest days of my life. And dude, his dog is alive a year now, like it will like it goes to the next one and he's like giving a praise report. But this is the guy who's over here saying that it's too much. It's too much for his family to go to term with a child that's mostly. 00:58:31 Speaker 5: Gonna won't disabled child. 00:58:33 Speaker 3: But this is we'll spend the money to get our dog free of cancer. 00:58:38 Speaker 2: Like this is this is an example and you can see it even personally. I could hear it, you know, in his voice, the way he's talking. You know, he's just someone who's very weak. He's someone who lacks any physical or moral strength at all. Is not willing to live for anyone other than himself. Clearly he doesn't care that his wife is crying there on camera and is more than willing to exploit her grief and and that moment and. 00:59:18 Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, that is not such a show. 00:59:20 Speaker 2: Weakness, a cowless, a narcissism, a lack of actual love, and yeah, it's that's not a man. 00:59:28 Speaker 3: That's not a man. 00:59:30 Speaker 2: In our culture, this is you know, it's it's everywhere. It's just everywhere. 00:59:35 Speaker 5: It's one of the most evil things I've ever seen. You know, we were disagreeing what what is evil at the start of this. I think we're all in consensus. One of those people I want to shut out, as you who donated and said, this is what happens when you raise godless beta malesmen definitely a part of it. I think it is certainly a beta male thing to kill your children as things become slightly difficult. 00:59:58 Speaker 4: Ah. 01:00:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, I made sure not to. I didn't engage with his tweet. I saw it coming around, and I made sure not to engage with it because Twitter bases monetization on engagement. Now, so if I engage with it, he. 01:00:12 Speaker 5: Makes money fair very good, very good move. 01:00:17 Speaker 2: And I think about that stuff all the time. I think about that stuff all the time, whether it's you know, Jesus, Jews or stuff like this. I just I don't want to do anything that supports that kind of stuff. I really don't ever. 01:00:28 Speaker 5: All right, well, we have a heart out here, but this was some very fun topics one very unfun topic. Happy birthday to Andrew, go nix Angelo for your. 01:00:39 Speaker 2: Team here at the Big Five. 01:00:40 Speaker 5: Oh and as always everyone, I asked him how well, we'll see how that series goes. Maybe it'll be over by next week. Until then, keep committing thought crimes. 01:00:58 Speaker 6: For more on many of these stories and new as you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com