THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 123 — Doll Moms? Immortal Val Kilmer? Sabrina vs. "Zaghrouta"?

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You know, I thought you cared, Andrew. 00:02:03 Speaker 5: I care about being warm in this studio. 00:02:05 Speaker 2: There are no And for those listening, Andrew is yet again wearing a jacket. It's dealt with. 00:02:15 Speaker 4: It's dealt with all right, sounds like you're the one has now been dealt with, fair enough, okay, breaking like a lot of you watching this or listening are wearing a jacket. By the way, you all this rule applies to all of you as well. 00:02:28 Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't watch you can't. 00:02:29 Speaker 2: That's right, you're not actually allowed to wear we're talking about chat men. You're like men's jacket. You're not allowed to wear a jacket while while listening to talk crime. 00:02:38 Speaker 4: Yeah. If you're a jacket right now, take it off. We're seeing you in the chat. 00:02:41 Speaker 5: All right, all right, we're ready. 00:02:43 Speaker 2: I'm in my NASCAR Monster Mile shirt. I got this at the at the Dover NASCAR Track and I love it. 00:02:51 Speaker 3: I thought it was a soccer jersey for a minute there. 00:02:54 Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't watch soccer. I'm straight. 00:02:56 Speaker 3: That's good. Yeah, that's fair. 00:02:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, nothing strater than NASCAR right now. 00:03:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was not recent. 00:03:07 Speaker 3: So we get into it. 00:03:08 Speaker 2: So we got Andrew Colett, we got Blake Nef and the great producer Russ Are we are we adding Tyler? What's up at that? 00:03:16 Speaker 4: Who knows? Tyler? 00:03:17 Speaker 3: Is? 00:03:17 Speaker 2: You know? 00:03:18 Speaker 5: You do have a massive event, Uh tomorrow here in. 00:03:21 Speaker 2: Phoenix tomorrow the Red Tomorrow is something going on tomorrow. 00:03:25 Speaker 5: Build the Red Wall is happening here in Phoenix. Forty seven's making his way out. 00:03:29 Speaker 2: Some kind of special guest or something that's coming into coming into town. Do an event? What are you talking about? Oh, look at this, Donald J. Trump. Turns out the President of the United States is doing an event with Turning Point USA and TPE action tomorrow at Dream City Church. And if you want to get involved, you can go to TPUSA dot com slash DJT. It's going to be at noon local time there April seventeenth. Wowsers, this is amazing. Andrew. What can you tell us about how this came together and what we should we expect for tomorrow? 00:04:05 Speaker 5: Well, the President is making his way out west. He's in Vegas and then he's coming down to Phoenix and we're building the Red Wall at Turning Point Action. So it's the Turning Point Action event, mostly led by and it's uh, listen, he's going to make his case for economic stuff that he's doing. The President's doing. You you were there at the White House this week, Jack, when they were talking about double tax week tax returns, record tax returns. What's the number? Actually, it's something like forty percent or something like that of Oh. 00:04:37 Speaker 2: Gosh, yeah, because I totally remember the number from the best conference, the very important numbers that I it did. But no, it's I think it's like eleven percent higher than usual was the number I saw that I remember correctly, Like higher tax returns than average. 00:04:54 Speaker 5: Yeah, so exactly so. But it's also I think forty percent of filers are getting a record return or forty five percent or something, So we're gonna be talking about that, but we're also forty seven percent that would work forty five or for. 00:05:09 Speaker 2: Yeah anyway, so quick yeah pull see I'm seeing that eleven percent number come in yet, like like eleven percent higher refunds, uh, just in terms of the dollar amount. 00:05:19 Speaker 5: Right, So very very good news there. But yeah, there's a whole economic agenda. I think this is gonna be like focusing on a lot of domestic policy. I'm sure Iran will come up. I'm sure some of these other things will come up, but I mean that's the goal. Talk about the domestic wins, what he's doing for real Americans, and we're building the red Wall turning point action so that the TI I wish Tyler was here to talk about it. But you know, we've got a whole plan where we're gonna be putting ballot chasers out on the ground in specific states Arizona, Nevada, New Hampshire, because if you win those states and you hold the sun Belt, you basically make it pretty darn hard for a Democrat nigh impossible to h to win a national election. So it's a it's a good strategy. We're putting it putting it into effect. So we're calling the event build the Red Wall. It's gonna be good. We're gonna have uh Andy Biggs there, wants Iscamani, We're gonna have some others. So it's gonna be a packed event, packed house, and we're looking forward to it. 00:06:18 Speaker 2: Super duper cool. So uh one of the things though, that that came out and it isn't it isn't so much of a thought crime. But okay, right, I think I think Taylor, excuse me, Tyler is going to fly in in a minute as arm trying to read and talk at the same time. Shouldn't do that. And speaking of Tyler's huge news, I know we covered this on our individual shows, but just just massive news in the Tyler Robinson case that the ballistics report has come out, and this is you know, kind of a moment, I guess, I would say for all of us who have been following this and you know, waiting to see this report, which was done all the way back on September seventeenth, and you know, we've made reference to it, we've talked about it, and now it is out. Blake was with, you know, standing right there as we've talked about many times, and this is you know, obviously something that was very close to all of us and the fact that now we're starting to see because because we're getting the reason this is coming out now is because we're getting closer and closer to the preliminary hearing for Tyler Robinson, which is it's kind of crazy that that hasn't even happened yet. It's just you know, compared to you know, the way some people might be used to seeing things in movies or even just to other states that Tyler Robinson hasn't even played yet. He hasn't even entered a plea of guilty or not guilty, just the way you saw Systems system works. And so here we are seven months out. It'll be eight months when the preliminary hearing takes place. But that's why so many of these things are are being unsealed now. And yeah, I just just kind of wanted to take a moment and recognize that this is out. Thirty caliber bullets fragments were recovered in Charlie's autopsy, and look, this is Charlie show as much as it is all of ours in terms of all crime, and you know, we want to see justice for what happened to our friend and there's there's no question about that. And so you know, we've always called for evidence to be released, and now it's coming. You know, Andrew, you you know obviously have talked about this the most. What you know, what does it mean to you? I think real quick, just you know, real quick that you know that we're actually seeing this report now. 00:08:38 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think back to the Daily Mail headline, talked about it on their daily show and Blake was part of that. But it was, you know, really annoying actually when that headline came out, because it was basically they. 00:08:49 Speaker 4: Have a good headline today. 00:08:50 Speaker 5: Though they had a good headline today, I will give that. Charles Sparring, I think, was the reporter on that one. He did he did an honest report, so credit where it's due. 00:08:59 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean they said that bullets. 00:09:01 Speaker 5: Don't match the gun or whatever, which was not at all what the ATF report said. But nobody had the ATF report, so we had to sort of like surmise certain things. And we had a ballistics expert, former prosecutor US attorney who's you know, looked at hundreds of ATF reports and he told us at the time. The dog that didn't bark in that defense motion was that the defense attorneys didn't mention the caliber of the round that was used, and he was like, I guarantee you. He's like, I'll put money on it that that's going to be a thirty cow and that's why the defense didn't even mention it. So fast forward to yesterday, we get the ATF report that's public. The judge moves to make it public, and they confirm, yes, it is a thirty caliber weapon, consistent with the Mauser rifle that was used or the suspected murder weapon. 00:09:50 Speaker 2: Right. 00:09:50 Speaker 5: The other thing they confirmed was that the spent shellcasing also matches the gun. So while the bullet itself, you know, explodes into a number of pieces and it's highly damaged and you can't necessarily do forensics on it because it's too badly damaged, the shell casing, which was spent from the one fired shot does match the gun. Not only that, the shell matches all the other unfired rounds as if they were from the same box, if you will, for when they were when they were made. So so there's a ton of evidence not to mention the DNA evidence not to mention some of the new evidence that was released, the handwritten letter, well. 00:10:26 Speaker 2: The the the the way just just all nice question of the of the fragmentation, you know, the way that I kind of tried to explain to on on human events. I said, it's kind of like getting a partial fingerprint, you know. It's it's like, it's like saying that I've got, you know, a little bit of a fingerprint, and it looks a whole lot like this other person's fingerprint, but because I don't have enough of the fingerprint, I can't conclusively say it's that finger That being said, obviously, this isn't the only piece of evidence in the case, and you know, logically speaking, and you know, Blake, I'll just throw that to you real quick. And I don't want to believe her this too much, but yeah, I think it makes makes sense for people to kind of go through the you know, the evidence so that it's understood, you know, just from a sense of logic, right, you know, you know, we can sort of surmise that, you know, through through the process of elimination, right regarding this situation, if there's one rifle and there's one spent round, and there's one set of fragments found in the autopsy. You know it, The probability is just kind of stack up. 00:11:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, well, what really all of the framing, as seen in the Daily Mail article as an example, they always use framing in the most mendacious way possible, Like every single test they're doing could very easily, if it was capable of doing so, debunk the possibility of Tyler Robinson being the shooter. Would have been very easy to come back and say round doesn't match, would have been very easy to produce. We can conclusively rule out this rifle, we can conclusively rule out DNA that could happen at every single step of this, and instead, at best they're getting it's a possibility, it's one hundred percent possible for this thing to be there. And then sometimes we're just getting outright matches. We're getting very direct evidence, we're getting these letters, we're getting the engravings, we're getting eyewitness and of course, on top of this, something we shouldn't forget. We have the fact that his parents literally turned him in and it's happening every step of the way, and it's important to see this, but it's also important not to ignore what has been going on here, which really I think people who know that the evidence in this case is overwhelming are running with this sort of nonsense that the Daily Mail did to try to introduce skepticism and doubt in order to like fuel crazy people because that's the only way that they could get an acquittal or really just a hung jury in this case. They're trying to deliberately fuel cranks because they know that this person is guilty. 00:13:00 Speaker 5: I think that they're they're playing the marketplace where they're like, ooh, there's a market for this conspiracy nonsense, so let's write a headline that that we know they're going to pick up all that's. 00:13:09 Speaker 2: And that's Daily Mail's job, Like at the end of the day, that's that's all they're trying to be. It's a tabloid. That's that's that's the thing. But one actually, the one thing I would like to say, I guess about the original Daily Mail headline that we're all you're all talking around, is that you know, and and Blake correct me if I'm wrong on this, but it's the way to look at it is the bullet does match the gun. The bullet does, yes, and that because no, no, no, the bullet fragments do match the gun. 00:13:35 Speaker 3: Right. 00:13:36 Speaker 2: What we're saying is they can't be definitively tied to that only that gun, right, you can't exclude all the other guns. But it does include this gun. So this actually does count in this gun. We're not saying that it important distinctionally gun could have fired it, but it is matched to the gun. Yeah, it's because there's a lot of guns. 00:13:58 Speaker 5: A lot of people, you know, say that, oh, it couldn't have been a thirty odd six because that's too big of a round that it would have the damage would have happened, there would have been an exit, whatever. What this ATF report says is it was a thirty caliber round, which is a thirty which is a. 00:14:12 Speaker 2: Class So it's matched to this class of gun, which includes this gun. So it is matched. It's just not matched to only this gun. Get it? 00:14:20 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, exactly. And and the other part that people need to understand that there's different types of projectiles. I've had to, you know, learn some of this stuff just in the aftermath. But you know, there are full right, Yeah, I grew up hunting and all of that stuff, but you know. 00:14:36 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not when you're a kid, you know, dad kind of. 00:14:38 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, I'm not like, I'm not I'm in no way shape or form a ballistics expert or something like that. We you know, we bring them on the show because they have interesting things to say and they can add light to this. But what I will say is there's different types of rounds. Right. There's full metal jacket that that is designed to go straight through things. Right. There is hollow point right, and which is just designed to disperse in the body. It's supposed to be for hunting. You know, you kill an animal quicker, right, and there's. 00:15:06 Speaker 2: Usually not Ye, it's an ethical kill. 00:15:08 Speaker 5: Yeah, ethical kill. So these are things that you kind of learned. Other things that determine what happens when a bullet hits, in this case a human body or bone or tissue or something, is you know, the age of the bullet, the grain of the bullet. These kind of things can determine a lot of different things. So anyways, you know the fact that the bullet, you know, broke apart is very telling of what kind of bullet is probably a hollow point. I don't I don't know that any reports has confirmed that or excluded that, but that would be the assumption. 00:15:38 Speaker 2: I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that specifically stated. But this, again, this is just a preliminary report, so you know, it's a big moment because this is the first time we've seen an official report. But this isn't even the full report yet correct. 00:15:51 Speaker 5: So anyways, it was nice to at least have the judge release agree to release this, and you know, it's it's pretty I mean what We had a guy named Jane Jay Town on the show. 00:16:05 Speaker 2: And I've seen him on Twitter. He's really good. 00:16:07 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's very good, and he basically he had this comment I wish I could remember, maybe you do, Blake, but he was basically saying, Okay, you only have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt and trials like this. Okay, He's like, but this you you combine all the different pieces together. This is not just beyond a reasonable doubt. This is beyond statistical probability models like this is. 00:16:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was saying about, probably, like the probabilities are just stacking upon each other. That okay, and this person and this one and he was in orum and and and you know you're you're just you're getting to the point where you know, it's it's we had Tom Sower on my my friend from you know, you know D Special Operator served together, and you know, he was saying, it's it's just it's statistically impossible. That's what he just that's the way he put It's like, it's just statistically impossible. Because so for Tom, what what he would do in EO D and and you know I was the intel uh intel anamal and then later intel director in the unit. Was you know once you once you find like bomb fragments, you know, so then we would have to tack you know, track back. Okay, you know who made this bomb or their fingerprints, is their DNA is there are their precursors? Are there specific you know parts of it that we could tie to a specific group or like you know, if it was a r F I D which is a radio frequency you know, can we tie that to a specific type of Cassio watch? And who uses that watch is a big thing with Harris and so on and on and on. So it's it's similar work that he's done in the past. And he was just saying, look, you know, when you get to this point, it's it's just statistically impossible to say that that this wasn't what happened. 00:17:41 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think. I think that's my read on it. And there's you know, there's a gal named Andrea was it Beckhart. 00:17:51 Speaker 2: The best And she's not She's not like on one side or another. She's just talking about the case. 00:17:56 Speaker 5: No, And she's covered a lot of these trials, and she's mocking a lot of like commentators that have no understanding of the legal process, which I find enjoyable in from my perspective. So yeah, she's been really good. She was the one that actually I first saw reporting on this, and it since spread far and wide, which is good. I wasn't expecting this, I have to say, but death of recess it stopped me in my tracks. 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So right now, go to angel dot com slash Charlie and watch Death of Recess right now. If you're a parent or plan to be, you need to see this. That's Angel dot com slash Charlie and watch Death of Recess. 00:19:34 Speaker 2: Russ. Let me get you in on this because we haven't had you in yet before we move move topics. 00:19:40 Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I think it's it's gonna be interesting to see how this all plays out, and it's going to be I'm just glad that you know we're covering it as extensively as we are and just trying. 00:19:51 Speaker 2: To Oh and actually, one real quick rusk, you could comment, maybe the one thing we haven't talked about is that tomorrow, Tyler's back in court for the hearing on cameras. Yeah, how important is it you think that you know that this thing is is televised. 00:20:06 Speaker 6: I think I think it's really important that it's televised. I think transparency is ultimately key, and the best way for things to be transparent is a live feed. Yeah, they're secure, There can be security issues with that kind of stuff, but I think. 00:20:24 Speaker 2: I don't. 00:20:25 Speaker 6: I don't see that happening here, and I think it's a good thing to have it on camera. Think about all of the weird conspiracy conspiracies that come out with other cases that weren't televised or whatever. 00:20:38 Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, we need this thing public. 00:20:42 Speaker 2: Let it let it out in public, and let's get it out. 00:20:47 Speaker 5: No, man, it's good. Need the cameras in there. 00:20:52 Speaker 2: Get them on, turn the cameras on. But sometimes, Russ, you mentioned live feed speaking of public into our next our next segment here, because sometimes when things are caught on live feed, you can catch actors and celebrities and singers doing things that they might not normally say or do, and occasionally you catch their authentic reactions. Isn't that right, Blake? That's right? 00:21:19 Speaker 4: That is, and that's why we get to all enjoy the saga of Sabrina Carpenter versus the. 00:21:28 Speaker 2: How are you doing? 00:21:28 Speaker 4: I can't, I can't do whatever strange chant these people do? 00:21:31 Speaker 3: Do you do? Do that? 00:21:32 Speaker 2: You do that like all the time. 00:21:34 Speaker 3: That was a good representation something. 00:21:37 Speaker 2: I've done that multiple times on air and it's hilarious every time. 00:21:40 Speaker 4: Well whatever, anyways gets me anyway, So this happened? 00:21:44 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? What happened here? 00:21:45 Speaker 4: So I'm told Sabrina Carpenter is a popular musician. I don't listen to any music made after the year nineteen ninety one, so I can't really say, but I'm told she's a popular musician. She was headlining at Coachella, which I i'm told is a popular concert. It's I don't go to concerts. I also don't really go to California, so I'm really I'm really not in the sweet spot for this story in the slightest. But this person, I'm told this popular, went to this concert, I'm told this popular, and she got in trouble because one of her fans was making noise and she didn't like it, and that would normally be okay. Well, we'll get into it. Let's play clip number ten. 00:22:28 Speaker 7: Is that what you're doing? I don't like it. That's your culture? Is yodeling? Is this burning man? What's going on? This is weird? 00:22:49 Speaker 2: Nah? 00:22:51 Speaker 5: She said, She actually said, I don't like it. 00:22:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, that's culture. I don't like it. Explain who that was in the audience. 00:23:00 Speaker 4: So the who that was in the audience she was apparently someone of maybe Middle Eastern extraction. I'm not sure if we've identified the specific person yet, but. 00:23:10 Speaker 5: Guda she was doing. 00:23:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's called a zagruda, which I had no idea, and she says it was her culture. It's it's an expression of her culture to be really annoying at concerts. 00:23:23 Speaker 2: And how's it go again? 00:23:26 Speaker 3: Let's see, well, clip fifteen will tell you exactly how Yeah. 00:23:28 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna defer to the clip here. Play at fifteen. 00:23:40 Speaker 6: I only clipped eight seconds of that because I knew none of us wanted to listen to that any longer. 00:23:45 Speaker 4: That was the most annoying thing in the world. 00:23:47 Speaker 5: But like, you know, what's interesting about it is that the the you know, without having any filter, she was just like, I don't like it, and I think that's like a really interesting part of this whole thing. She wasn't trying to be bigoted. She just was like, I don't like you making that. 00:24:03 Speaker 2: But so so right, So now you know without even having to look, but I did look for without even having to know. She has of course come out and apologized, and believe, I believe she said something along the lines of like, I'm really sorry because I thought the person doing it was white. 00:24:18 Speaker 5: No, she didn't say that, but she probably it was something along it. 00:24:21 Speaker 2: Seriously, it was along the lines. 00:24:23 Speaker 4: So she did issue, and she issued this apology shortly after it happened, and she said, my apologies, I didn't see this person with my She was replying to someone. She was applying to, someone named Poppy, who said Sabrina saying she doesn't like a cultural Arabic cheer. This is insensitive and is lamophobic. I am very disappointed her. And then Sabrina responds to that, my apologies, I didn't see this person with my eyes. So you know, she couldn't see that she was part of, you know, a group that's she's done clearly race and I clearly could yeah, and I couldn't hear clearly my reaction was pure confusion, sarcasm and not ill not ill intended. I could have handled it better now I know what is ze gruda is unspoken, and I can hate it with every fiber of my bean. I welcome all cheers and yodels from here on out. 00:25:18 Speaker 2: Yep, yodels, let's go around the corn. Do do you think she means dre's there? Because I'm saying I'm saying she thinks she means DRESD when she says that I couldn't see the person. 00:25:26 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think she's inferring, like I couldn't see that it was definitely if it had been I couldn't see that it was somebody that came from a different culture. 00:25:35 Speaker 4: That could have if it had been a white if it had been like a white SEC sorority girl who did a kind of yodel type chat, we would have a news story that is, you know, yodel yodel Karen or something like that. 00:25:48 Speaker 2: And she wouldn't have apologize. 00:25:49 Speaker 5: It would have been popular. 00:25:51 Speaker 4: It would have attacked the girl and we would have we would have gotten think. 00:25:54 Speaker 5: Down, we would have got we need. 00:25:56 Speaker 4: We would have gotten think pieces about like screaming while white at concerts and white people imposing their loudness while the dignified silence of other cultures. 00:26:06 Speaker 5: Why white people need to shut up? 00:26:08 Speaker 2: And so funny enough, So Sabrina Carpenter is from like not too far away from me in uh in Pennsylvania. She's also pretty close to where Taylor Swift is from and where I swear like we're all from this like one corner of Southeast PA. And just a few miles down the road from Quakertown, PA is of course Newtown, PA, where we get to find out recently that there is an isis cell that was like bombing Gracie Mansion in New York. So it's like I don't know, like thirty miles or something, and it so it's like it may not be part of your culture, but it is coming soon to your town, Sabrina Carpenter. It's coming soon, very very very quickly. And like that's just I don't know, there's just something about that tied myself and just the area is changing, right. But I guess the thought crime here is like I'm just gonna come out and say it. I'm on Sabrina's Carpenter's I'm on Sabrina Carpenter's side on this one. I think it's weird. I think it sounds odd. I think it's off putting. It's just not part of our culture. And you know, it's shrill. It's just shrill and sounds kind of nasty. And I think it's totally fine for Sabrina Carpenter to have that reaction. That was her honest reaction. 00:27:24 Speaker 4: Okay, we have a great follow up to that. Then now I'm a little noid have to play this because I've actually gone through this entire story and my entire life. I don't actually know what genre of music Sabrina Carpenter plays. I don't know a single song, and I don't know anything. But apparently we're about to learn it, because this is a Sabrina Carpenter music video that I'm told will be very educational. 00:27:45 Speaker 2: About You're not gonna stay a Cathic one? Are you? 00:27:47 Speaker 4: Number twelve? 00:27:51 Speaker 2: Yep? 00:27:53 Speaker 3: Yep? 00:27:56 Speaker 2: Lead the Catholic one for those on audio. 00:28:00 Speaker 5: What Catholic church let her shoot this in there? 00:28:03 Speaker 2: No, this was a whole thing where like the pre gotten big trubble for giving approval to this, and like you know, they they kind of approached like through you know, surreptitious means and like didn't explain what they were planning to do. 00:28:17 Speaker 5: And sacrilegious. 00:28:20 Speaker 3: It's crazy that I mean this. 00:28:23 Speaker 2: For never never apologize to Catholic church. She ain't never apologized. 00:28:27 Speaker 4: So it says in the thing that it's a murder fantasy about killing men in a church. I did see the sort of kind of movie caskets in the background, but does the show anything else. 00:28:38 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:28:39 Speaker 5: I have no idea. I church never actually a Sabrina Carpenter song. 00:28:45 Speaker 2: Okay, it was an enunciation from that controversy that this church actually had to be reconsecrated after this. 00:28:51 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the monsignor got stripped of his duties at annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Church in Williamsburg. 00:29:00 Speaker 5: This this one tweet though, like, look at how these people react to this. This is Kevin, but it seems to be a female. 00:29:07 Speaker 2: I don't know. 00:29:08 Speaker 5: I'm in I'm I'm in complete shock. I used to be a huge Sabrina Carpenter fan, and now she's mocking my culture and calling me weird. This is so racist and inappropriate, and it made me feel uncomfortable. This white, blonde, racist woman should be canceled. 00:29:25 Speaker 4: That sounds like a satire. Maybe I'm not sure that's a real one. 00:29:28 Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't know that that's how those people talk. We know. 00:29:34 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, even if it is satire, it's like kind of funny, funny, but it does sound too on the net. 00:29:38 Speaker 3: We have it. 00:29:39 Speaker 4: We have a bigger thing that we should hit though, which is if going on a culture is that just objectively. 00:29:47 Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say, is that it's weird, and it's okay to think that it's weird because it's totally weird. 00:29:52 Speaker 4: No, it's not weird. I'm not saying it's weird. I'm saying it's bad. 00:29:56 Speaker 5: Yeah it Yeah, I think it's a I think it's like sort of a reflection of the entire culture. But we do weird and bad things too, to be yeah, well, but I just think it's weird. We say such strikes a Western. 00:30:09 Speaker 2: Ear instantly, they say, let's go as. 00:30:12 Speaker 5: I don't like it, She says, I don't like it, And I think, like that's kind of, you know, on some sort of fundamental level what we're dealing with with a lot of the mass immigration stuff, where it's just like a lot of Westerners kind of just go we don't like it, and that doesn't make me. I just like my own culture. I like their culture if it's in their in their context. That's all. 00:30:31 Speaker 4: One of the most important cultural traits of the West that we are losing is our appreciation of not being deafeningly loud at all times, true as anyone can do. 00:30:42 Speaker 2: Discovered by writing things, especially being loud in public. It's I'm sorry, that's just third world behavior. That's absolute third world behavior. That like the no re like the entire lack of respect for other people's you know, personal space, for being loud, for being a intrusive and intrusive of others, you know, personal space while you're in public. It's just that's that's a total third world is And I'm not saying there aren't Americans that don't do that, but I'm saying that the vast majority of people from the third world don't have any problem with this. It reminds me of like reminds me of like getting on a bus in China and you know, so I used to ride the bus to work in China, and I, you know, would would go on and when you're getting on, they don't do like lines, like like the concept of getting on a line is very Western, and in China, you get on, you get the doors open, and then you just push right now, push yeah, yeah, And and this could be like little old ladies or whoever, and they just they just they will just start pushing you. And I'm like, whoa. The first time it happened, I'm like, what are you doing? Like excuse me, I'm standing here like and I could say it in Chinese as well well, chizziban and and I'm like wow, wow, seriously, and that's our culture and just be And then eventually, eventually I learned you just gotta you just gotta kind of like they push you, and you just got to like fend them off, like you just gotta fend them off and get on the bus or they will push you until you don't make it, you know well, and it's like that's just how they run their country. 00:32:15 Speaker 4: It's an interesting social tech thing. Like if you go to for example, I mean actually in the US, we're pretty good about when you get to a station on train, for example, the people get off and then other people get on. 00:32:27 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, It's like that. 00:32:29 Speaker 4: In Japan, it's like that in South Korea when I went there, and I've been to countries I we call Egypt being this way and this element of social technology just didn't take And so it'll get there and it's just okay, everyone run into each other and just try to push past each other. There's absolutely no upside to doing this whatsoever. And it leads to people being unable to get on or it takes extra time, but no, we're just not going to have people get off and then get on. 00:33:00 Speaker 5: That's really interesting. I haven't appreciated that about our culture, and I do appreciate it. 00:33:05 Speaker 4: Well, I've got another thing for you to appreciate about our culture. So we're talking about whether it's deafening or has appreciation for being quiet during the concert or during the movie. For instance. This is a headline in the Atlantic in twenty twenty two. But it's always fun to go back to why do rich people love quiet? The sound of gentrification is silence by Hoquito Gonzales. I'm not sure how to say that one, but it's all about how you know, sound of the sound of gentrification is not having it be deafening at all times. 00:33:41 Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel yeah, that headline's trying to like make us feel bad about liking quiet things, and I'm wondering, what the is it just because this person is obviously has an affinity for her own louder culture that she's upset with white culture based. Is that what I'm to do? 00:34:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, basically, I'm I'm scanning through it because she's talking about her uh DEI enabled journey to an ivy League college and she's she's experiencing culture shock there because she shows up and people don't want her making tons of noise all the time. But actually, you guys should debate this because I want to read through this and find like the best quote, and I'd forgotten from it one day when I accidentally sat down to study in the library's absolutely quiet room. Fellow students shed me into shame for putting on my discman with our discman, How you ever say the things her walkman. Basically, with rare exceptions like Saturday nights during rush, silence blank blanketed the campus in the library, Yes, she was. She was upset that she was told to not make loud noise in the library. I soon realized that silence was more than the absence of noise. It was an aesthetic to be revered. Yet it was an aesthetic at odds with who I was, who a lot of us were. 00:35:03 Speaker 3: It's actually kind of funny. I noticed this with. 00:35:07 Speaker 6: And I'm not gonna say it, like it's like younger people but speaker leaving their phone on speaker with no headphones, like walking around the house and like talking on speaker and then telling you Like I was like with my old roommate, like I would be literally in the living room watching TV and he's walking around the house with speaker and then all of a sudden, it's like, hey, man, can you turn the TV down? I'm like, no, go to your bedroom or put your headphones in. 00:35:34 Speaker 5: You're saying I'm reading. 00:35:36 Speaker 4: You can tell reading between the lines. How incredibly annoying this woman must be. Within a few weeks, the comfort I guess, I'm not sure if this is a woman, because I don't know what the gender of Hoketl is, but I assume it's a woman. Within a few weeks, the comfort that I and many of my fellow minority students had felt during the early cacophonist days had been eroded, one chastisement at a time, the passive aggressive signals to wind our gatherings down were replaced by point blank requests to make less noise, have less fun, do our livings somewhere else, even though these rooms belong to us too. A boisterous conversation would lead to a classmate knocking on the door with a please quiet down. A laugh that went a bit too loud or long in a computer cluster would be met with an admonishment, Yes, she's right, you are sharing a common space. 00:36:29 Speaker 5: That's cool. 00:36:29 Speaker 4: That's why you should pipe down. 00:36:31 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why we call it common decency, common consideration. That's really annoying. 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According to a twenty twenty four survey one thousand Americans conducted, thirty eight percent of Americans rely on some sort of background noise or sound like white noise, fans, apps, rain sounds, or music to fall asleep and so. 00:38:37 Speaker 3: But like that wasn't around, you know. 00:38:41 Speaker 6: Earlier, like like before we had phones, or before or like before we had like phones that had music on them and all of that. 00:38:50 Speaker 5: Like, I also think people just get used to what they get used to. I don't think you have to ask, Like I don't know that I read too much into that. That's study because like sometimes I like to fall asleep to the show. Just set the sleep timer. 00:39:05 Speaker 3: A quarter. 00:39:05 Speaker 4: He's a quarter of Mexican. 00:39:06 Speaker 6: I was gonna say, you actually set the sleep time, don't just fall asleep. 00:39:13 Speaker 2: Yeah no, I said, I got to maybe one of four nights, and we got maybe one every four nights. I fall asleep a quarter of the time. 00:39:24 Speaker 4: This is life on one quarter episode at a time. We got two comments from Zu Zu. She's she's a warrior. She's here every week. She said, first she was ready to buy any one of Sabrina Carpenter's songs, but now she apologized, so no reason. 00:39:37 Speaker 3: Don't worry. 00:39:38 Speaker 4: There was probably never a reason to listen to a Sabrina Carpenter song. Yeah, based on the thirty seconds of song, I don't know the chad. And she also asked, did the Pope ever make a comment about the Sabrina Carpenter video? And I feel like he's commenting and everything else, so he probably will ought to, but I don't believe. And I think that video. Did that video come out under the previous pope? 00:39:59 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:40:00 Speaker 4: I think I think it. 00:40:01 Speaker 2: You know what that poke? You know what came out that the previous came out. 00:40:04 Speaker 5: You know what else came out before the previous during the previous pope. That would be Muslim on Christian violence. 00:40:10 Speaker 4: That's true. There is a lot of that. That was that to beat the whole fourteen hundred years ago and it's been going strong ever since. 00:40:17 Speaker 6: Sure has you know Francis did not publicly comment on Supreme Sabrina Carpenter's music video out before he was was he Francis. 00:40:27 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure he came out. 00:40:30 Speaker 4: It came out right around the election, actually, so around November twenty twenty four. 00:40:34 Speaker 7: Uh. 00:40:34 Speaker 4: But you know, by the way, all of those violent Muslims, you know what a lot of them were probably doing. Man, Man, it is really annoying. Why am I doing it? I don't like it. 00:40:48 Speaker 5: I don't like that. 00:40:49 Speaker 4: I myself am. 00:40:50 Speaker 3: Doing like it. 00:40:51 Speaker 5: Hit that hit that comment. 00:40:52 Speaker 7: I don't like it. 00:40:53 Speaker 2: Wait, guys, is that possibly overtly something? 00:41:01 Speaker 3: It might be? 00:41:02 Speaker 4: It might be overtly pagan. 00:41:04 Speaker 5: Probably is I think you need to get T shirts made. 00:41:06 Speaker 3: It's definitely overtly sacrilege. 00:41:09 Speaker 1: No. 00:41:09 Speaker 4: But the problem with no. 00:41:10 Speaker 2: The problem with wearing a T shirt though, is that when you wear a T shirt with a slogan, you're associating yourself with the slogan. So if I wore a T shirt that said overtly pagan, then that would mean like, you are pagan if you're wearing it, which means I could's just like, so. 00:41:22 Speaker 6: You just need a shirt to say overtly that's all you needed to say. 00:41:26 Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe that's your new like brand jack overtly. I don't know, change it overtly Christian. 00:41:33 Speaker 2: Really Christian would be great. 00:41:34 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, really, because if anybody reads the shirt then they could. 00:41:40 Speaker 4: Jack, Is it true that you've considered legally changing your middle name too overtly? 00:41:44 Speaker 5: Is it true? 00:41:46 Speaker 2: I have considered. So I wasn't gonna change my my my middle name because I'm the third and so you know, I don't want to break the chain there, but I did consider changing my confirmation name to Saint overtly and fly. We don't have a Saint Overtly yet, So it's something I'm working on submitting to the book. 00:42:05 Speaker 4: You know, I'm just gonna say, you don't want to change it because you're a third, But I don't think there's any name police making sure that you're actually the third of anything. 00:42:13 Speaker 3: You can. 00:42:14 Speaker 4: You could even change your name that that. 00:42:16 Speaker 2: Is, that's that's a median, my family, my heritage, and my son. By the way, because I ain't break it. 00:42:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, you could you could make Wait a minute, Jack, wait a minute the. 00:42:28 Speaker 2: Tenth speaking of children and speaking of our progeny and our heritage. I feel a segue coming on here, folks. There's a new trend. So we actually got I think it's the first time that so Tanya Tay, who's an avid thought Crime fan. And for the record, she listens every single She has listened to every single show of thought Crime, which I don't think she's something you could say for Human Events Daily, but that's okay because we do that show every single day. But she loves this show. She loves thought Crime. She's listening to every episode. 00:43:04 Speaker 3: There's a lot of. 00:43:05 Speaker 5: That love thought Crime. By the way, that I don't know what it is that this show always We saw that at Interest last year. Yeah, and that we have a lot of we have a lot of people that watched just this show, which is because. 00:43:16 Speaker 2: That was a Star Wars. That was when I was just like, yeah, Star Wars is faking gay, next question. And and so Tany Tay was listening to our gosh, what was it last week? The fake wedding, right, we're doing the fake weddings. 00:43:32 Speaker 5: The forty year old woman that was single, forty year old. 00:43:35 Speaker 2: Fake wedding or something. It's like the birthday wedding to nobody. So she told me something that she saw that that reminded her of that's actually I'm going to say it. I think this is even worse than that. It's called doll moms. Have you guys heard about this? 00:43:50 Speaker 5: Now I have, Yeah, so I only apparent it. 00:43:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, Blake had heard of it, and then we started looking up some some stuff. Apparently it's it's just that, it's it's doll moms. It's it's women in like there. I guess I'm in their twenties, some in their thirties maybe maybe higher than that. Where yeah, they they don't have kids, so they have these dolls, which is like something they used to do in home ech right, Remember they used to like make you bring the doll home and for like young girls, and like you have to feed it and give it the bottle, et cetera, et cetera, to kind of like teach you how to have a baby. Probably probably don't do that anymore, and if they did, they'd probably make the guys do it too. And now they do the same thing with like an interactive doll. Let's play clip eighteen. So for those listening, this is a doll. She's she's putting a dipe. She woke the doll up when it cried. She's putting a diaper on the doll. On onesie, this is trippy. 00:45:02 Speaker 1: Girlfriend you need, but you have to put a bell in your head because everyone thinks durable. 00:45:07 Speaker 2: These are like really oddly lifelike dolls. Like that's actually kind of the one of the weirdest parts of this. I think that what are those things made? Is that like a rubber? Yeah, it's like a silicone, it's it's it's I'm like, if you told me that was a real baby, I'd probably just say, Okay, yeah, okay. This is this is the This is like a horror movie. 00:45:44 Speaker 6: This is to say, like a movie called Chucky, like like like. 00:45:49 Speaker 2: No, but but it's not. It's it's not just Chucky though, because it's like this is the heart that, you know. The horror here is that these women are treating these dolls like they're deal and the dolls. 00:46:02 Speaker 5: I have so many questions. I don't know who knows the most about this topic. But is this woman like somebody that wanted to be a mom and has never been able to? 00:46:10 Speaker 2: Is she infertile? Is she unmarried? And like what's the backstory? And I don't think so. 00:46:17 Speaker 5: I don't. 00:46:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just they're treating. 00:46:20 Speaker 2: Okay, there's more, there's more. Play uh play clip clip, we have another one. 00:46:24 Speaker 5: Clip nineteen is this a different lady. 00:46:25 Speaker 3: Clip twenty. Clip twenty is the other one too, with the morning your team. 00:46:30 Speaker 2: Look at this is goodness she's got. 00:46:33 Speaker 3: So she's got four dollars in this one. 00:46:37 Speaker 2: That's oh my gosh. 00:46:38 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, she has like actual ages, different age dolls. 00:46:42 Speaker 2: That's real food. She's giving the dolls. 00:46:45 Speaker 5: She's wasting the room for him. 00:46:49 Speaker 3: My goodness that she was packing the she was packing the school bag, teeth. 00:46:54 Speaker 2: To brushing their teeth. 00:46:55 Speaker 5: I love you mom. 00:46:56 Speaker 2: They have words. 00:46:58 Speaker 6: I think I couldn't figure out what that clip she was saying, I love you mom, like in her own voice. 00:47:06 Speaker 3: I couldn't tell. 00:47:11 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something right now. If you find a guy who has one of these things, just to rest them right away, because that's pedo man, that's straight up. 00:47:19 Speaker 5: Oh. 00:47:19 Speaker 4: They're posing with him to make it look like he's walking. They were like fake walking him. 00:47:26 Speaker 2: Why would did they produce real coop? 00:47:30 Speaker 4: I mean, if you want something scary, the cat went away from it to see the cat knew. 00:47:34 Speaker 2: The cat was like, I don't want to be around this thing. 00:47:37 Speaker 6: And then later later in the clip, we had to cut it just for times sake, but she like put him in like uh a bascinette and like went on a jog with like a baby stroller and everything. 00:47:49 Speaker 5: Our team is saying, this woman should not be trusted around real children. This woman should also not be trusted around real children. 00:47:58 Speaker 4: By the way, when we were taking clips from two different women, and I'm reading more about these, So first of all, I'm getting more info on this. The really realistic dolls. I guess they're made out of They must be made out of silicone kind of or maybe like yeah, ballistics gel something like that, similar consistency weight to human flesh. And then apparently they're called reborn dolls, which is specifically they're trying to make them as lifelike as possible. 00:48:24 Speaker 5: So here's here's where I could have some grace on this. It would still be weird and not something I would recommend, but like, okay, if one of these ladies maybe had a child die, okay, like that's weird, but I would at least be like not want to be cruel, like this is like. 00:48:38 Speaker 2: I hear you on that. But to keep mind, Andrew, they're not This isn't something that they're just doing for like simp like like like emotional coping they're filming this and putting it on TikTok. 00:48:49 Speaker 4: A specific person. It depends, so some people do just buy them, although it would still bother me kind of in the same way that like when people would propose the you know, creating an AI version of Charlie for instance, like you can't you shouldn't make an artificial version of a person, so you still it might be understandable if that was the case, but yeah, all of this, Yeah, in this case, this I think the second woman in particular, she does a bunch of these, and she makes apparently two hundred thousand dollars a year posting tiktoks of herself with fake children. Now at least she apparently has five adult children, so maybe she just decided to keep being a mom once. 00:49:34 Speaker 5: It's kind of like one of those empty nester things like because and JACKI you probably I mean, when your kids start growing up, it happens really fast, and you're like, you know, this is it's really fast, like should you have another one or something? But if you're past that point in your life where you can have more kids, you may just want to keep the like youthful interactions going by dolls. I guess would be the psychology. 00:49:56 Speaker 4: I make more money now than I've ever made, she told the New Post late last year, more than my husband and I have ever made combined, and it's all through my doll videos. 00:50:09 Speaker 5: Dang man, the incentive structure of social media is like, it's truly causing that. 00:50:15 Speaker 4: Actually, you know, that raises a worthwhile question because at that point, it's more than people watch, Like, Okay, she's making she's making money. She has an audience for this, so it seems more disturbing than audience audiences than that she doesn't like, I don't like I'm with you, Like. 00:50:31 Speaker 2: There's you know this is about you know, it could even be I mean, I'm gonna say it's sympathy farming, but you know it's it's clearly being done. So some of it, honestly, could just be being done because she's making money. There's huge payouts on TikTok and you know other other social media is like the Instagram whatever, So you know, she could just be doing this for the money, like like I'm. 00:50:56 Speaker 4: Not Yeah, well okay, Russ, Like, would you if someone approached you, let's just say, Elon Musk came in, he said Russ I'm a huge fan of yours, big fan. I will pay you a million dollars a year to make that the reborn dollar content full time. 00:51:17 Speaker 2: You wouldn't do it? 00:51:18 Speaker 4: No, what about ten million dollars a year? 00:51:21 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, man, that money going higher? I don't know. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. 00:51:30 Speaker 2: You know, get married by the way, Yeah, exactly, exactly. 00:51:33 Speaker 3: You know what, pay off my mortgage? You know it sounds great. 00:51:37 Speaker 6: Here's the thing though, with content like this, I don't maybe it's just women, but when when they post content like this, most people, if they think it's weird, just keep swiping. 00:51:50 Speaker 3: It doesn't turn into a big like cultural point or anything. 00:51:53 Speaker 5: But then I would it. 00:51:55 Speaker 6: But then one dude, one dude starts posting about like Pokemon cards or or video games or an unhealthy obsession with movies, and all of a sudden, it's a culture point. So it's like, what's the where's the why is there a double standard on this because it is weird. It's like we need to be calling these people out for this mentor for their mental illness. 00:52:18 Speaker 4: So I'm now I'm going deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole. So right now, I'm on the subreddit out somebody. There is a subreddit, like. 00:52:28 Speaker 2: There's a subreddit. Hold on, there's a subreddit devoted. 00:52:32 Speaker 4: There's a baked in audience here that she's subreddit reborn dolls. It has almost ten thousand weekly visitors. Oh Jesus, and I will say it looks here. So for example, this is a thread I found where they're they're reacting to hostile takes on this trend, and one of them says, people are so cruel about reborn's that's the type doll. 00:52:54 Speaker 3: Again. 00:52:55 Speaker 4: I think part of it is they say, they're calling them, why don't you have a real child? Then while act of ignoring most of us effing can't hence the dolls rude. So I think that's getting back a lot of these people. They are compensating for that although they don't have a they have a mental illness, can't get a partner. 00:53:13 Speaker 5: This is this is very, very troubling. 00:53:16 Speaker 3: It's it's insane. 00:53:18 Speaker 4: My reborn not only helps ease the pain of not being able to have another child, she helps greatly with my anxiety. I wish more people understood that. Okay, here's another question. Is this healthier or less health is this not even healthier? Is this better or worse than the people who have dumb emotional support animals? So like emotional support snakes or something that they bring on. 00:53:45 Speaker 6: This because it's it's trying to it's it's trying to be something that it's not, whereas it's if it's a snake, it's still a live animal. 00:53:53 Speaker 3: So there's like there. 00:53:54 Speaker 5: Could be quote unquote look at this one. Uh, this is so I went to Reddit. This is terrifying. 00:54:02 Speaker 3: Hi. 00:54:02 Speaker 5: I am bringing home a sweet little boy this weekend. He is made from vinyl, has a cloth body, and weighs four pounds four ounces, and my spouse and I are adopting him from a vetted artist from reborn dot com and he is lovely. She's a local artist and she is the sweetest woman. I told her our story grieving parents of many among other physical health issues that left me extremely early onset premenopausal. I'm not even twenty four yet, and she is letting us make a deposit on him and letting us pay the rest next week so I can have a baby love to hold because I'm going through it and it's bad. So it is like it's basically like emotional support. I want to know now, but listen to this next question. I want to know what is the best way to keep him safe? How to sleep at night? How can I warm a bottle up when I plan to use cornstarch and lotion or lotion or water? Do I have to mix it every time? I'm gonna warm my menstruation crustacean a bit to let him be not cold. Is that gonna hurt him? 00:55:05 Speaker 3: Chat? Help? I went out, I went out. 00:55:08 Speaker 2: This is this is all wrong, This is all wrong. And I'm gonna tell you something right now. This is this is not how you get over something emotionally, because you're not getting over it, you're not actually dealing with it. You are wallowing in the despair. 00:55:23 Speaker 4: And it's great, I think it's. 00:55:25 Speaker 2: And you're you're, yeah, you're You're not dealing with it, and you're acting as if like it didn't happen. And it's Imagine I hate to say this, I really hate to say this. What I'm saying that Imagine if you have other kids, right, real kids, and they see mom spending all this time with the doll, what does that do to them? What does that do to them? 00:55:47 Speaker 4: Hey, Ron, we're excited to tell you about Charlie's favorite supplement. If you experience brain fog, low energy, frequent illnesses, or if you just wake up stiff and achy every day, you've got to try strong cell. Charlie took it every single time, He frequently talked about it on the show, and he even traveled around the country bringing it with him. 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I think she was basically abandoned on the day of her wedding. And there's a twist basically where she's kept this room that's now covered in dust exactly as it was the day she was gonna get married. Like she has the dress, and I think she even gets dressed. 00:58:43 Speaker 2: That's great expectations. 00:58:44 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, doesn't she doesn't she even make Pip like dress up the way the man would have or something. I can't remember all these. Yeah, but same phenomenon that is attachment to something that is not real or not moving on beyond something, which that's an important part of life. It's an important part of maturity. And this is really getting really crazy. 00:59:06 Speaker 5: So like somebody, somebody comes in and tries to give like advice, saying, hey, make sure you get it from the authentic site, not the inauthentic one. There's apparently two different sites for sleeping at night. Make sure his make sure. 00:59:18 Speaker 2: His authentic them are authentic. 00:59:22 Speaker 5: No, but apparently one's a scam size which he's saying. 00:59:25 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, it's not authentic fake. 00:59:27 Speaker 4: The creepiest thing on this reborn dolls subreddit is they aren't saying my doll. They're repeatedly saying like my girl, my baby, with. 00:59:38 Speaker 5: Yourself in the head. Now look at this, look at this. For sleeping at night, make sure his limbs are fully covered. A sleeper with foot footies and fold over mits or regular scratch mits will do. Also put a hat on him. Avoid dark colors and dark blankets and sheets. Is they will stain the vinyl she has transfer in common unless you take precautions. 00:59:58 Speaker 2: Look before we get before where we go to the next. 01:00:01 Speaker 3: The next matrix on this. 01:00:03 Speaker 2: One topic here, I'm just gonna say it right, I'm just gonna say we talked about it at that at the top of the show. You know, there's a guy who's supposed to be co hosting the show is not here, you know, and all of us have experienced that loss directly. And I'm gonna tell you right now, like you can't fall down that hole of trying to pretend like Charlie's still here in you know, a physical sense at least that he's still you know, a part of everything. Oh and we could do that. We could have made a Charlie kirk Ai and and had it do a show every day based on whatever the news of the day was. And you know, Blake could have prompted that you know something and written it up or whatever. And and we're not going to do that. We're just not going to do that like that. That would be completely wrong to Charlie's memory and and also it would be unhealthy, It would be unhealthy for all of us to to try to play along like that to it's you gotta get over things. And and don't get me wrong, like there's there's always going to be a big part of me that never gets over that, that never like, it's never gonna leave you. You know, it changes you. It's grief or something like that. But you have to accept it because if you don't accept it, you are going to be living in anxiety and grief forever. 01:01:24 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:01:24 Speaker 5: The only way through is through. 01:01:27 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's so many comments on the side going here's here's the question to that point, now, like, like what does that mean for AI and the use of movies, entertainment and so forth? 01:01:43 Speaker 8: So aggressively, I mean, I thought I. 01:01:53 Speaker 3: I caught it. 01:01:54 Speaker 4: I got a new movie coming out. It is called As Deep as the Grave and it is a movie that stars a person who has not been with us for over a year at this point. It's stars the late and Ai d aged Val Kilmer. I believe, so he definitely doesn't look like Let's play the trailer twenty one. 01:02:16 Speaker 3: No full AI. 01:02:17 Speaker 2: Wait wait, so this what we're watching right now is a I Val Kilmer. It's not. He's not being released possumus. 01:02:37 Speaker 4: Some stories were too hidden to be found. 01:02:42 Speaker 2: Oh wow, is that him? 01:02:45 Speaker 3: Now you'll see it? 01:03:00 Speaker 2: Wow? Don't fear the dead and don't fear me. 01:03:14 Speaker 4: That was Val Kilmer at the AI. Don't fear the dead. 01:03:19 Speaker 2: Don't fear me. 01:03:21 Speaker 7: I don't like it. 01:03:23 Speaker 4: I don't like it. 01:03:24 Speaker 3: Caboose is very anti AI. 01:03:26 Speaker 4: He had now I will say he had apparently agreed to do this movie back when they first began production in twenty twenty or so, and then he was diagnosed with cancer, so I think he had to pull out. Yeah, as you can see if you saw Top Gun, he had the cancer there that it actually had AI generated his voice in that. 01:03:44 Speaker 5: Didn't he an answer like before that? 01:03:47 Speaker 4: Because anyways, well yah, I mean he got They were filming during COVID Jake hold on a second and then he died, Yeah, a year ago almost exactly. Uh, and filming took place in New Mexico and Era Zona. After his death, Kilmer's likeness and voice were generated exclusively using generative AI, as he had not filmed any scenes at the time of his death. So this is a fully AI, said Val Kilmer, and he's in the film apparently he plays It's it's even weird to read like the the cast it says, Uh, I'm reading like the Wikipedia page for it. Abigail Laurie as annex Del Morris, Tom Felton as Earl Morris, AI generated likeness of Val Kilmer as father Fintan's early based on the truth Blessed. 01:04:34 Speaker 2: Can we throw the shot up again though, because I just want to explain this for the audio the benefit not not not the top gun, the actual the AI one. And I want to explain this for the audio only audience. If you're listening on the podcast, it looks exactly like him. It doesn't look like AI at all. There's no artifacts here you would have if you hadn't you know, known, you know that I break the fourth wall, et cetera, Like if you had never heard that Val Kilmer died, you would have no idea. It looks exactly like Valcilmer. It is one hundred percent perfect. 01:05:04 Speaker 4: So I don't know at a glance did they how much AI is it? Like did they do some of the green screen, like they had a different person play him ye voice? 01:05:14 Speaker 6: And don't I don't know, I know, like when when we were looking it up, is like the whole film is normal. 01:05:21 Speaker 3: It's just Valcilmra that's being AI. 01:05:23 Speaker 6: But it's kind of funny if you when like watching the trailer the trailer does look very AI like. It was one of those things like the very front half, if we want to play it as just b roll, the very front half of that trailer looks very much like. I had to do a double take because I was like, is this just an AI film? 01:05:43 Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, I had that thought. I saw the New Mario movie last weekend because I was dumb, and during the film, before the film, they played a trailer. I guess they're making a he Man and the Masters of the Universe. Yeah, And I literally had to google and I was not the first person to search this because it auto completed is the New he Man movie AI? Because the trailer was so aggressively disorienting and kind of fast paced and bad. 01:06:08 Speaker 2: It looks like because so there's there's a there's a difference that I'm not sure even has a distinction here, because we're talking about CGI, and CGI has been around for a long time and. 01:06:22 Speaker 6: So and CGI has started to look just more and more terrible as the years have gone by, to. 01:06:27 Speaker 3: Well, not this this. I mean, that's why I'm saying. 01:06:31 Speaker 6: It's like the first the start of this and I don't know if they put it under like an I'm just. 01:06:35 Speaker 2: Talking about the actor. I'm just talking. I'm just talking about this looks amazing. 01:06:39 Speaker 3: You're right, it looks amazing. 01:06:41 Speaker 2: And that that is it is just a form of CGI, so AI generated is what I'm saying. Is it's just a form of a computer generated image. So it's not and I'm just saying that it's not the first time that we've seen computer generated images in film. It's probably just the most you know, the stark you know example of this. But Russ wasn't they didn't they do this with Princess Leiah in one of the Disney Star Wars movies. 01:07:06 Speaker 6: Yeah, she died, Uh, Carrie Fisher died through the Last Jedi. 01:07:14 Speaker 4: Yeah, because she died right after Trump got elected and we had to go through that whole thing where they were like, nah, how can we face this without Carrie Fisher. 01:07:21 Speaker 2: She was the one holding I guess some Trump. 01:07:26 Speaker 4: Don't we remember how Carrie Fisher is this moral leader in our society and not a person who just died prematurely because she did lots of drugs. 01:07:34 Speaker 6: Which which I think correctly from Last Jedi, specifically that scene where she's like force pulling herself out of space is is. 01:07:45 Speaker 2: The weirdest thing is isn't she rogue one as well? Though? 01:07:49 Speaker 6: Yes, but that is absolutely CGI. Like that is what I'm saying, But it's not Star Wars didn't use. Star Wars only used CGI. They didn't use They weren't using the way. 01:08:01 Speaker 2: But I think I don't. I don't, so what like that doesn't That doesn't make much of a difference. The whole idea is I argue that it's not making a difference. It's just a different tool. But the real question here is, Okay, Val Kilmer passed away. We know that Val Kilmer intended to perform in this film. They you know, I think we can infer that they would have used the daging on him because it's like a movie that takes place in two timelines. So, you know, what do we think about I'd love to throw this to the chat. Do you know what do you think about that? I'm gonna say right now, I don't have as much of a problem with it as I thought it would. I think it looks cool. 01:08:41 Speaker 5: Well. It helps that that his he wanted to be a part of the film, that he was already cast in it, and his daughter, his daughter's blessing it and said that valkiaging technology. I thought the story was really important. 01:08:54 Speaker 2: Let me throw let me throw another valuable variable in this, Bruce Willis. 01:09:01 Speaker 5: I mean, they got a lot of content of that guy too. 01:09:03 Speaker 2: So so, Blake, are you familiar with the status of Bruce Willis. 01:09:06 Speaker 4: I know he is Bruce WILLI yeah, Bruce Willis is still alive, but he had to leave public. 01:09:11 Speaker 2: He's alive, he has like a degenerative mental condition, and so he can't make movies anymore. And yet his family is, you know, taking good care of him, et cetera. But you know he can't do he can't do any films. But what if you made another Diehard with like a completely healthy Bruce Willis that was made using this process. 01:09:33 Speaker 5: I mean, it's one thing. If Bruce Willis sort of I don't know if he's cognizt is he is. 01:09:40 Speaker 3: I don't think he is. 01:09:42 Speaker 2: I think he's gone. I think he's gone. Yeah, well he's kind of gone. 01:09:46 Speaker 5: I think that in that sense he does if maybe he's made some decisions. But when he was of soun mind mine to say that you can do this and his family could follow through that. But I think that's the lynchpin here for me, the not feel. 01:09:58 Speaker 2: I think he did actually another think about it. I mean, so wait where starting he did in twenty twenty one? Sorry he did actually in twenty twenty one, Bruce Willis worked with AI firm Deep Cake to create a digital twin for a commercial and used images to superimpose his likeness and you know it. So he did it for a He did it for a commercial before he you know, it's a phaseia is what he has. And this was before he had succumbed to it. And so there haven't been any agreements beyond that commercial, but he did agree to it for one commercial at least. 01:10:42 Speaker 3: Here's what I'm going to say on that. 01:10:44 Speaker 6: On the using deep fake AI or CGI for actors, if it is purely AI, I think it takes away some of the the specialness of creativity and. 01:11:04 Speaker 3: An art. 01:11:05 Speaker 6: Yeah, and so in my I still would rather a actor be recast. Perfect example, the Hunt for Gollum. They just announced that they're recasting Vigo Mortensen as Aragorn with a younger actor. I would still rather. 01:11:24 Speaker 3: Give the amen, uh give a I would still rather. 01:11:31 Speaker 6: Give an actor an opportunity to act rather than just being like, Hey, we're gonna have die Hard die Hardest with AI's you know, still die in the Matrix. 01:11:47 Speaker 2: I'm so torn this pause because like I get I get what you're saying, because I like, if you freeze all of society. Actually, uh, if I ever CRUs there was a Blake. I don't know if you remember, there was a Star Wars EU novel about this where like everyone on the planet was a clone. They decided to like freeze their society at one point in time, and then everyone was a clone of someone who had been born in that generation. So I'd be meeting like Blake eighty two and like you'd be talking to Jack fifty one. Okay, I know, and you just like added the number at the end. 01:12:21 Speaker 4: I don't know that one. That sounds almost like a Star. 01:12:23 Speaker 2: Trek episode, but I want to say it was Star Wars. I could be wrong. I thought it was a Star Wars EU episode or EU novel. And the problem with the society was like as much as they loved their people, right, it was that to Russ's point, they it was frozen like it was. It was like frozen in time, and so there was no innovation, there was no continuation. There was no personal growth, there was no striving. It was like this, you know, this worship of everything needs to be the same all the time, and that that's a problem too. 01:12:53 Speaker 6: I think there's also like there's a biblical there's a biblical aspect to it as well as that. You know, God created the heavens in the earth in seven days. He created everything, and then he gave us as humanity. 01:13:07 Speaker 3: The drive to create. And so then if we're just. 01:13:11 Speaker 6: Leaving it up to computer generation, there's no creation, and to your point, life gets stagnant, society gets stagnant, and then we don't continue to grow. 01:13:20 Speaker 3: You know. 01:13:20 Speaker 5: Like the thing is, to your point, when I look at that trailer with Al Kilmer, just like knowing it's not actually him does take something out of it for me, It really does. 01:13:30 Speaker 2: But but what if he didn't know? Yeah, I mean. 01:13:34 Speaker 3: But then that's just deception. 01:13:39 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about it from them. I'm talking about what if you didn't know, and what if just just you're watching TV and you know, this comes on and you see the trailer and you're like, oh, cool, Dall Kilmer movie. 01:13:50 Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, but it's kind of yeah, I'm thinking of so many way learning Like, for example, what if everyone decided, you know, there's too much dispute they keep trying to make James Bond a woman or a black guy or whatever. What if the studio said, guys, we are cutting the Gordian not The next James Bond film stars Sean Connery as he was nineteen sixty five. Nineteen sixty five, Sean Connery is the star of this movie, and we just get a that version of James Bond. 01:14:22 Speaker 6: I didn't realize I was this anti. I'm now getting to a point where I'm anti. We starting us starting to use CGI to deage people in movies like Guardians of the Galaxy when they brought Russell Crow not Russell Crowe, Kurt Russell and brought him back as like his old self, and this is just happening live. But like, yeah, I'm to the point where I'm just like, nap, actually, can we can we rewind? I don't want to do that anymore. I just want to. 01:14:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so many ways I could see this, Like we've never it's often pointed out, we never get new action heroes. That's why all of our action stars are seventy five years old. Like, who's the youngest action star. We have Jason Statham and he's fifty or something. Yeah, yeah, they're never old. Arnold's really old. What if they were said, Okay, we're just gonna bring back the golden age of action movies and we're just going to have Ai Arnold Schwarzenegger maximally jacked and he's gonna make news. 01:15:17 Speaker 2: I mean it's gonna happen. But okay, they did that with one of the Terminators. They already did that in one of the Determined, the one with Christian Boh. 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These are great people and we're so glad to be working with them again. 01:17:11 Speaker 4: Is it more defensible if it's similar to this where an actor was going to make the film and they die part way or just before production begins. Like let's say, let's say, I think it's definitely well, Like let's say The Dark Knight Heath Ledger died right after they'd finished filming. Let's say they were sixty percent finished filming. Would it be better to film those scenes with a stand in person or recast the role or AI? That stuff. 01:17:42 Speaker 5: AI at that point is pretty defensible for most people. You know, yeah, because you have a script. He agreed to the script, he was doing the script. You know what I mean. 01:17:51 Speaker 4: It's just okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna make it harder for you. Now, let's say let's say we're making let's say we're making the Lord of the Rings movies again. 01:17:58 Speaker 2: You'd have to get the familiar. 01:18:00 Speaker 4: Let's say let's or let's say Harry Potter. Let's say they made the first Harry Potter movie, and then who's gonna yeah, I know they're making again. And then the Q who plays Harry in the first movie dies in an accident. Can you ai that kid? For the rest of the Harry Potter movies. 01:18:14 Speaker 5: Esp For the rest of them, I wouldn't say that the rest you could probably find a look like you. 01:18:19 Speaker 2: Just have to get somebody new and everybody to understand. And but here's here's what's gonna happen. Can that hot take here when you just mentioned James Bond, That's what I wanted to actually respond to, because hot take, what we're going to get is like choose your own movies. So we're gonna get to the point now where movies are gonna come out, and then like you at home, the same way that you like make a character in a video game, you're gonna be able to say, you know, if you're BLM like I want the BLM James Bond, which actually would have a problem with you yourself as James. As James Bond, I think you'd be a good one. And I also just think I also think that they should just change it to that that they established the fan theory that James Bond is a code name, just like double O seven is a code name, so that each James Bond, like who knows to be an old reject. 01:19:04 Speaker 4: I reject version of Bond is just Bond is a person has a background. 01:19:11 Speaker 2: There, No, they changed the background and different in different films. You know what you're talking about. 01:19:15 Speaker 4: No, no, they shouldn't do that. No, James Bond, he has British aristocultable Daniel Craig Bond. We're not doing any of this nonsense. No, bring it back, We're bringing it back. James Bond is one guy with a canonical character. He's not just any random guy with this code. But I reject there's over over the movies. The next Bond movie should just be one period piece, which is a non canonical post Cold War. Post Cold War, James Bond was a mistake. Other than Golden I was okay, But other than that, we should just keep Bond in the Cold War. Just keep Bond with his actual character biography that makes sense. Otherwise you might have We'll just say, James Bond is this incredibly thin thing where's. 01:20:03 Speaker 5: Already been proven to be completely not the case. They have recast Bond time and time again, but. 01:20:09 Speaker 4: They always kept him the same, like he looked basically the same. And yeah, they're trying to Oh, let's make black Bond. Let's say immigrant Bond. We're gonna get Jamaican Bond. He's a great actor, it's just he's James Bond is a white Scottish guy who has a background, and you can't just blow that up and say James Bond is any British spy, And like, I don't think people would tolerate that with other characters, Like we don't really make Batman movies where we say, oh, Batman is any person who happens to find the bat Cave, and they can have knots of super different you can tweak it on the margins, but it's always gonna be Bruce Wayne who has these canonical character beats, and if you subvert those, it's very willful and you're doing a special spin on the character or something. 01:20:55 Speaker 6: This is why I was so interested in the idea of recasting Indiana Jones's is Pratt back in the day before they did Dial of Destiny instead of instead of like moving on from Harrison, but just keeping it as Indiana Jones, the same guy. 01:21:10 Speaker 5: He the Jurassic Parks. 01:21:14 Speaker 2: But like to that point, obviously that's Indiana Jones in World series. 01:21:19 Speaker 3: Obviously Zeus is. 01:21:21 Speaker 2: Back, she says. 01:21:23 Speaker 4: The movie Terminator answered this question, a, I will kill us all no AI only movies. What if that is the way they did it? Like they order it, Like you told the AI AI, make a do do a movie and it's gonna have Clint Eastwood and uh Charlton Heston at the peak of their powers as AI and just do it however you need to do it. And the AI realizes that it can never recreate that perfection and so it just nukes the planet. 01:21:51 Speaker 6: But it also gets back to the doesn't it also get back to the idea that like we just can't create anything new that's good, like it no essentially society, we literally are just like we're riding off all entertainment as well. It's just gonna be fake and gay. 01:22:10 Speaker 2: We can I point something out about that? 01:22:13 Speaker 3: Yeah? 01:22:13 Speaker 2: Is that? 01:22:13 Speaker 1: Like? 01:22:14 Speaker 2: So when when I first had kids, I remember we were like, you know, just walking through the store and we went through like the video game aisle, and I was looking at like, Okay, what games do they have for kids? And and I was looking I was like, Okay, they have Sonic, they have Mario, they have like Ninja Turtles, they have Pokemon and I was like, okay, well, where are like the new games, Like those are all games like when I was a kids, Where are the new characters and the new games? And they don't exist because there aren't any. 01:22:42 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's why. I mean, that's why we live in an era of Hollywood that's all. 01:22:49 Speaker 3: Reboots and prequels and sequels and no actually new, no actual new ips. 01:22:58 Speaker 2: And that's and that's a problem. 01:23:00 Speaker 3: That's that's a big problem. It's a it's a big problem. 01:23:03 Speaker 2: They're like, oh yeah, oh and the next Star Wars, here's your next Star Wars and like what do you mean? Like, but where's the next? Like the next thing? Like Star Wars is super old. 01:23:12 Speaker 6: The biggest problem is that Caboose is never going to leave his living room because he has physical media and nothing new is any is at all good enough that he's never going to leave his living room. 01:23:23 Speaker 3: He's just going to keep rewatching all of the old films. 01:23:27 Speaker 4: He was literally watching Lord of the Rings in the studio the other day. That was really special. I was I was like, why am i Am I hearing the the Shire theme right now? And yes, I was hearing the show. 01:23:38 Speaker 2: Kids don't even know what physical media is. That's what's so funny. 01:23:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, so for the sake of physicalia. 01:23:46 Speaker 2: Other than books, physical media is like Andrew, dear kids know if physical media is no, Yeah, like there's no, it just doesn't exist. No, I don't think So that's the guys, That's what I'm saying. Like the next generation like doesn't even have any relationship with physical media. 01:24:05 Speaker 4: I mean, you have books, but when you give your kids a book, do they do they like freak out and they're like, how do I other than books? 01:24:12 Speaker 6: They also won't have the attention span to watch the movies because they're used to watching clips of a movie on TikTok. 01:24:19 Speaker 5: Well, I watched the Swiss Swiss family Robinson with them, Such a good movie. They loved it. 01:24:26 Speaker 2: Such a good movie, like the original Yeah Origin, Yeah, so good. 01:24:29 Speaker 5: Which is a movie you know when they get on the they get on the beach and they also, like the fathers like ready to go get to work and she goes not yet you know, it's first and they get down and they pray. 01:24:39 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:24:40 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, is that almost How. 01:24:42 Speaker 3: Was the movie that got me interested in Indiana Jones? You know and got me interested in those type of films. 01:24:46 Speaker 2: Wow, Andrews, So you mean that when they put overtly Christian things into movies, it's actually cool, it's amazing. 01:24:52 Speaker 6: The whole movie, Okay, hold on, the whole movie of Swiss Family. Robinson is not overtly Christian. 01:24:58 Speaker 3: It is. 01:24:58 Speaker 1: It is. 01:24:59 Speaker 3: That's not there's elements of Christian it's not over, but it's not overtly. 01:25:05 Speaker 2: They're not overtly pagan exactly. 01:25:08 Speaker 3: I like, I like. 01:25:15 Speaker 2: You mention is the overtly Christian element, just saying that's what I like. 01:25:20 Speaker 4: I feel my resolve weakening. I think I'm a slightly less ai than most people. Like there's films that were that should have been made with specific actors that just never gotten Yes. Yeah, So for example, one that I've always thought about, we were supposed to get I don't know if anyone else has read this. Have you ever read a Confederacy of Dunces? Great novel? They were supposed to make a movie out of Confederacy of Dunces, which is this comedy novel I can't remember the name of the author, but comedy novel set in New Orleans by this like weird shut in Catholic guy who I've been compared to occasionally, but he's way fatter than me and named Ignatius Riley. And they were supposed to make a film adaptation of it with John Candy, and that would have been amazing. He would have been the perfect person. 01:26:07 Speaker 3: For this role. 01:26:08 Speaker 4: But it was cursed and never made and he died unfortunately in his forties. We can rebuild him. 01:26:15 Speaker 2: I've I've always said that it's it's an absolute crime that we didn't get the chance to see Philip Seymour Hoffman play Steve Bannon. 01:26:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, or or a really bad, really bad one, a really bad one. He lost Chris Farley before he could play Uh, that the Ford guy that that that guy was the mayor of Toronto, the guy who had plenty to eat at home. Can't you just imagine Chris Farley. 01:26:43 Speaker 5: We're just doing skit, Yeah. 01:26:45 Speaker 4: Just you know what? 01:26:45 Speaker 2: You know? Which one I never got though, speaking of SNL, was Belushi. That Belushi was originally going to be in Ghostbusters, and I feel like having Belushi there would have totally just totally changed the vibe of that film. 01:26:57 Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually watched, didn't I tell you? I watched set for the first time, and like. 01:27:02 Speaker 4: Would he have been would he have been Bill Murray's character. 01:27:05 Speaker 2: I think he would have been bankman, yeah, which is like it just I don't I'm like, I don't like it. 01:27:15 Speaker 5: Nothing. 01:27:18 Speaker 2: Sleep at the wheel, sleep at the button. I think that means it's time to rap actually falling out by the way before we wrap. I do want to say, h I want to throw in the chat that I thought that if you have children and are enjoying one a good kids movie that the kids. My kids loved Super Mario Galaxy and thought it was great. The new one huh we saw at the drive in. Yeah, I think that movie was really bad. 01:27:43 Speaker 5: My wife said it wasn't as good again, like like like you're like. 01:27:46 Speaker 2: It's not meant to be like dissected as high art. 01:27:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is literally a chill movie four five year olds, and I went to it. I'm not making this up. I went to it because about once every two years, I decide to go play poker at hel River and then I play until I get some like bad beat and lose my starting amount of money. And I'm not a gambler, so then I just walk away. So that is literally what happened. I was like, I'm annoyed. I lost on a bad beat on the river. I'm gonna go watch the dumb Mario movie for some dumb fun. And I was about ten minutes in. I just realized, what have I done? This is going to be terrible, And it was. 01:28:21 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:28:21 Speaker 3: I mean, I just sat. 01:28:22 Speaker 2: If you don't have kids clapping and cheering, I don't know. I think the new Michael Jackson movie looks good. Michael, which, by the way, you know what's what's what's really cool about the new Michael Jackson movie is it's not AI or c G. I. They got his nephew. 01:28:39 Speaker 4: That's remarkable. 01:28:39 Speaker 5: I just like that we didn't bring up any of his like sexual stuff. 01:28:42 Speaker 2: Huh right, I've read something about this. 01:28:44 Speaker 4: Well, that's good because I think he's I don't think he did anything wrong substantiated. 01:28:47 Speaker 2: So I do want to I do want to be clear that we are in thought crime and we are not accusing him anything, because none of that's and and thought crime. I don't think. I don't think Michael did it. 01:28:59 Speaker 4: No, I think he's in I think, uh, you know, uh, but it is like the people closest to him, I think, I honestly, I think actually the argument of what's his name? Dave Chappelle is actually one of the most compelling ones, which is he spent a bunch of time with mcaulay culkin. W and McCaulay culkin was the most famous child in the world, and like McCaulay culkin for examples, always said, Michael Jackson never did anything wrong. I never saw anything wrong. Like there's anyone who didn't have a direct incentive, like a monetary incentive to go after Michael Jackson has always insisted nothing wrong ever happened. 01:29:32 Speaker 5: It is kind of weird though, that he hung out, didn't he It's weird. 01:29:35 Speaker 3: He was weird. 01:29:37 Speaker 2: Can testify like under oath that that Michael Jackson did nothing well. 01:29:43 Speaker 5: But they didn't even bring up any of the allegations in the film or something they shouldn't. 01:29:46 Speaker 4: They shouldn't. 01:29:46 Speaker 5: I think it's a I just that's the only reason I heard about the film. 01:29:50 Speaker 2: No, because it's it's early. It's like the it's like the early part of his career. Okay, all right, I think it's like the early part of his career. 01:29:58 Speaker 3: No, up there, You're good. Uh yeah. 01:30:02 Speaker 6: I don't really like those types of movies other than Elvis really loved Elvis the other ones that they did. 01:30:08 Speaker 5: Kind of like that. 01:30:08 Speaker 2: The biopic was the biopic. 01:30:11 Speaker 4: No biopick, biopick biopick because it's a biography and the picture. 01:30:16 Speaker 2: You say, biopic, you've done that before. 01:30:20 Speaker 5: Thanks for correcting me the last time, save myself making it a fool of myself. No, the bio picked the last time. 01:30:25 Speaker 2: But I was like, he didn't. 01:30:29 Speaker 4: That one was really bad. 01:30:31 Speaker 2: Well, it's like they gave it like a cinematography award and. 01:30:35 Speaker 4: It's jarringly bad. Like the cuts are really strange. 01:30:38 Speaker 2: Hot take. Projectail Mary is a little bit overrated, over overhyped. 01:30:42 Speaker 5: It's actually making money though, because it's not being it's an original movie. 01:30:45 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna harship too much. 01:30:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not saying I didn't like it. I liked it, but and I read the book. I liked the book. So we did like a double feature. We did Merror Galaxy and then Project hail Mary was the next one, so so the big screen. So I thought it was good. I thought it was a solid movie. I like sci fi. I give it like a B plus because it's it just wasn't that original. Uh, Like you say, it's an original film, but it's very derivative. It's very It's like Interstellar plus just like the Mars. 01:31:16 Speaker 5: Wasn't there the Mars film? 01:31:17 Speaker 2: It's like an adult novel. 01:31:19 Speaker 5: What's the Mars film? The marsh the Martian. Yeah, but same author. 01:31:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's wrap it up. 01:31:25 Speaker 2: Did that, but he did this like horrible movie or horrible book in the middle. 01:31:28 Speaker 5: Like really really bad we have Yeah, we are over time, but it was this was fun. Especially disturbed. I'm really disturbed actually because of the dolphin still, but the doll. I shouldn't have gone on the subject. Yeah, that was all you do, Blake started doing. 01:31:47 Speaker 2: I was like, I gotta say, the val I'm going to see that Valcilmer movie. I'm I'm going to see it, you know, I think I think it looks good. 01:31:58 Speaker 5: Doesn't bother me, FO says, never go on the subreddits, All right, Jack, you want to take us. 01:32:06 Speaker 2: Home, Ladies and gentlemen as always go out there and commit more thought. 01:32:11 Speaker 4: Cry For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com