THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 121 — Back To the Moon? Bryon Noem's Bimbo Fix? Mt. Everest = Lame?

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That is Noblegoldinvestments dot Com. 00:01:17 Speaker 4: All right, welcome to this Thursday edition of dot Crime. We are joined by Russ Blake and Cliff Hey. Cliff A, you too. You're looking well as always. Nice hat on your head? Which which one is this? You're you're like, you're like Tyler You guys, that's why you're you interchange with Tyler's. You guys have lots of hats. 00:01:41 Speaker 5: This is the Win Poker World Poker Tour. I think it was a I think it says on their twenty twenty two. 00:01:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, look at you man, World Poker. It was gonna be something. 00:01:50 Speaker 6: Are you here? Are you a card shark? I didn't realize that. 00:01:53 Speaker 7: Cliff. 00:01:54 Speaker 5: We'll get into that sometime. Blake, I don't want to brag too much. 00:01:57 Speaker 8: I try to well. 00:01:58 Speaker 4: You know that's yeah, it's a card sharks. 00:02:01 Speaker 8: All right, whatever, whatever, Enough guys, guys, guys, guys, we have something extremely important. Run it clip one. 00:02:09 Speaker 9: Why do you want to be here? Why do you love space? Why do you love being a part of his career? 00:02:14 Speaker 10: We're going back to the moon. 00:02:16 Speaker 8: That's why we're going back to the moon. 00:02:20 Speaker 5: Guys. 00:02:21 Speaker 4: Hold on, all right, okay, so first of all, this is what We're going back to the moon and Blake does with strong cell to you always jumps the gun. All right, a couple of things. We're doing an early thought crime today. We may get Jack in. But Jack is actually participating in the Turning Point event at George Washington University, so hopefully he can call in because we want to talk about him going viral with Lord of the Rings last night. I think it's important. Hopefully we get him it. Anyways, by the way, you came out smelling roses on that I did. 00:02:52 Speaker 3: I got Mark Safe by Nerd Rodick. 00:02:54 Speaker 4: And I did not because apparently I just haven't watched it relatively sooner. Even though I said, pretty sure it's overtly Christian. 00:03:01 Speaker 3: That was It's true. That was your take. 00:03:03 Speaker 8: You guys are always anyways, you're gonna You're gonna call it DEI this week. 00:03:07 Speaker 6: That's what I predicted. 00:03:08 Speaker 4: No, No, he's gonna do it a little bit on the gay side. But that's fine. Okay, here we go. We are doing an early thought crime with Cliff and Yes. Our first topic is artem is too long? 00:03:19 Speaker 3: You know what? 00:03:19 Speaker 6: Play it again? 00:03:22 Speaker 9: Why do you want to be here? Why do you love space? Why do you love being a part of history. 00:03:27 Speaker 10: We're going back to the moon. 00:03:29 Speaker 11: That's why. 00:03:32 Speaker 8: Kid is awesome. 00:03:33 Speaker 4: You know his parents like his dad. But you know, don't tell mom, I tell you that word. 00:03:40 Speaker 8: Oh it's so great. We're going back to the moon. Some people are trying to blackpill They're trying to be lame about it. They're trying to be We went back to the moon sixty years ago. Yeah, but we're going to the moon again. 00:03:49 Speaker 4: Well did we go to the moon? 00:03:51 Speaker 3: Yes, we went to the moona does is anyone here? 00:03:54 Speaker 6: Is anyone here a moon landing? 00:03:56 Speaker 4: I don't get fun with any of the current conspiracy theories. Let me have the sixties one. No. 00:04:02 Speaker 8: Uh, so you're gonna be like that, Andrew, you're gonna say it. 00:04:06 Speaker 4: And then I want Cliff away in. This is from nineteen sixty nine, allegedly, Well I guess either way. It's from nineteen sixty nine. Uh. 00:04:15 Speaker 5: Top four Uh, very very fine. 00:04:20 Speaker 7: Grain doesn't get close to it. It's almost like a powder brown. Man, it's very fine. Tiff off the lamb if one fall fift for man, one by a leet. 00:04:40 Speaker 12: For man, and that looks beautiful for men. 00:04:45 Speaker 8: It has a shut beauty all its own. 00:04:47 Speaker 4: It does look beautiful, doesn't it because it was on a sound stage in Burbank. Just kidding, Cliff, what's your what's your take of Artemis two and us returning to the Moon. 00:05:02 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, listen, this is the one conspiracy I feel like is allowed these days because we've had enough time in between. 00:05:09 Speaker 5: Now. 00:05:09 Speaker 13: I'm not quite there where I don't believe it, but I think with everything that's happened in the last ten, fifteen, twenty years, I would not be surprised if a couple of years from now we find out, Hey, this this baby was stage. But I got to make one comment. The kid reminded me, have you guys ever heard the story about the janitor when that we were first trying to go to the moon? 00:05:28 Speaker 4: Is this is this folklore? 00:05:30 Speaker 5: Or have you heard this one before? 00:05:31 Speaker 8: I'm not familiar with this legend, You're going to have to say education. 00:05:34 Speaker 13: So apparently Kennedy or some high level politician was there and ran into a janitor and there was a camera on them, and he said to the janitor, he said, what do you do here? 00:05:47 Speaker 5: And the janitor said, I'm working to put a man on the moon. 00:05:50 Speaker 13: And they talk about this at like you know, like CEO or self help type seminars that like, you know, you want your team fully aligned. That kid from that interview, he was locked in and ready to go. 00:06:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that is actually a cool like leadership story. You got the janitor who's like all in to clean the heck out of those toilets because he thinks that he's helping to send somebody of the moon. Really, we were just trying to win a pr war against the Ruskies. 00:06:17 Speaker 6: Yeah, but we won it. 00:06:18 Speaker 8: Awesome, we did. 00:06:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, even if it okay, is it more bad? Well? 00:06:23 Speaker 3: Is it? 00:06:24 Speaker 4: Is it more cool? 00:06:25 Speaker 3: Sorry? 00:06:26 Speaker 4: Eleven year old? 00:06:27 Speaker 6: This is a PG thirteen ship. 00:06:28 Speaker 4: Is it cooler if we actually went to the moon or if we pulled off an entire like. 00:06:35 Speaker 8: You don't do this, no, don't do any of this, don't stubble again stuff. 00:06:38 Speaker 6: It's way cooler to go. 00:06:39 Speaker 3: It is actually the. 00:06:41 Speaker 4: Entire world that you went to the ball Yeah. 00:06:43 Speaker 3: No, wait, I'm gonna be honest. 00:06:45 Speaker 4: I believe we went to the moon. I'm very proud of that as an American, But it is weird that it's been since nineteen sixty nine. Well, when was the last time I went to the movies like mids. 00:06:56 Speaker 8: Like seventy one or seventy seventy five. We're going at like one or every year or so, I think. 00:07:02 Speaker 4: So anyways, it's just wild that you know, it's legitimately fifty years ago that we and now we're not even landing on the moon. By the way, Artemis two their mission is to sling shot around the moon the Moon's gravity, come back to Earth and then and then by twenty twenty eight lands somebody. 00:07:17 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:07:17 Speaker 8: I think the current plan is Artemis four is the one that lands in the moon. Artemis three is going to be testing landing stuff in orbit around Earth, and then I think Artemis four is like they actually do it. 00:07:29 Speaker 14: Yeah, I just think conspiracy theorists have way too much leeway these days. Well, I've made the observation that we went from trust the experts to only trust non experts that don't know what. 00:07:42 Speaker 3: There's so many non experts. 00:07:44 Speaker 4: Oh the gosh, the internet is Blake. 00:07:46 Speaker 3: Got into some non experts. Man last night. 00:07:50 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we go in there. 00:07:51 Speaker 8: Oh if you guys want just like, oh man, we've got eight million, what happens? 00:07:57 Speaker 3: Yes, dance, there's dance. 00:07:59 Speaker 8: There's just eight you know oh man, Yeah, sure, every single person who is an expert on this at every single university, including in multiple countries, who have reasons to affirm otherwise, Like they all agree on this thing. But no, I bet I bet this Like podcaster who does mm A, it's like really really on point at this thing. He's he's definitely figured it out on the whole Moon question. 00:08:19 Speaker 4: Oh I see always wait, I didn't even know that Rogan is. 00:08:23 Speaker 6: Rogan is a big moon truth. 00:08:25 Speaker 8: Now I've even seen tweets like people arguing that like a very real reason we're doing this mission may literally be to like prove to Rogan that we can actually do it. 00:08:35 Speaker 4: So I have a family member who who will remain unidentified, that is is a flat earther, like a legit interesting flat earther. Are they on like this is like a normal good person in a lot of ways, this is why and not dumb. 00:08:53 Speaker 6: Actually no, they're they're dumb. 00:08:56 Speaker 4: About this. They are Cliff Cliff laughing about this. They are wrong, like do they flyes? 00:09:04 Speaker 6: Do they fly in planes? 00:09:06 Speaker 4: Well, so that I've had this conversation, I was like, can you not see the curvature? Like if you're if you're if you fly, for example, from Seattle to London, which I did one time many years ago. I remember, because it goes up towards the Arctic and comes down. It's the shortest route and you could see the curve of the Earth very clearly. And and then you think about Artemis, like how many things would they have had to engineer and just pre plan to fool people about the curvature of the Earth. Because that thing was up five minutes you could see. 00:09:38 Speaker 8: Every single commercial pilot is in on it. Because they plot out their courses apparently on the assumption the world is round, they'd have to do it quite differently if it wasn't. 00:09:47 Speaker 4: Well, so, like one of their points that they make is that you don't go like a lot of people fly over the Arctic, but nobody flies over Antarctica. 00:09:57 Speaker 8: Are Yeah, where would you be flying to? 00:09:59 Speaker 4: I don't know, like maybe you were going from Australia, New Zealand to South America. 00:10:05 Speaker 6: Yeah, And also there's probably no like airports. 00:10:07 Speaker 8: You can land on there if anything goes wrong, but. 00:10:10 Speaker 4: You couldn't land in an airport in the Arctic. 00:10:11 Speaker 6: Yeah, it is closer. 00:10:12 Speaker 8: One, there's like place closer like yeah, I mean like usually when you fly over I don't think you're usually going over the north North Pole. Usually you're like doing more of a great sun. 00:10:21 Speaker 6: I don't know, I'm not sure. 00:10:22 Speaker 8: But before in general, like look at a map, there's nothing in the South Pole area, Like Antarctica is really far away, even from the southern tip of like South America or Australia. Also, I just can't imagine there's that many flights from Australia to Santiago, Chile or whatever. 00:10:41 Speaker 5: What's the expected time on this is like two weeks. 00:10:44 Speaker 8: It's about ten days days. It takes you like five days to get to the moon. 00:10:48 Speaker 4: Didn't we hear that? Like the bathroom malfunction. 00:10:50 Speaker 8: Yeah, they fixed it, but you did have to worry about that because there's there's two I believe there's two women on this on this chip, and you know women need a lot of time in the bathroom. 00:11:01 Speaker 3: We should have sent Markwaine Mullen up there. He'd have been able to fix the bathroom pretty perickly. 00:11:07 Speaker 8: We should have sent Aerosmith on this mission, because they were really good in the movie Armageddon. 00:11:12 Speaker 3: Oh you're right there you go. 00:11:14 Speaker 4: It says, However, a few long haul routes in the Southern Hemisphere fly close enough to skirt or briefly enter Antarctic airspace, especially depending on winds and exact routing. These typically offer distant views of the continent's edge or ice, but this plays into their conspiracy theory ice because it's like, yeah, it's like a whole ice ring, and so if you're flying close enough, you're just touching you could see the ice, but you don't fly over it. 00:11:41 Speaker 6: So what's their explanation for, Like. 00:11:46 Speaker 8: Some flights go east and some go west to get to the same spot. 00:11:51 Speaker 4: That you're going around, Like it's all a big flat disc. Yeah, you're the disc spins. I don't know this perfectly. Well, I'm not the best guy, but disc spins and they're flying around a disc. 00:12:02 Speaker 6: And why do they believe this? 00:12:04 Speaker 4: Which is why it makes sense to go over the North Pole because it shortens the distance everything, just because the Internet told them. I'm gonna. 00:12:14 Speaker 13: I got three reasons here, Grop's telling me why people don't fly over Antarctica. One, no demand for direct routes, which is pretty obvious safety and practical challenges, and then the lack of infrastructure. There's only a handful of research military or strips, mostly on ice, seasonal and not equipped for large commercial jets. 00:12:34 Speaker 4: We need in extreme did you did you mention extreme conditions? Because Antarctica has way more extreme. 00:12:40 Speaker 6: And ark is way colder than the North Pole. 00:12:42 Speaker 14: We sat in a plane for an hour waiting to get de iced, just in Minneapolis. 00:12:48 Speaker 3: So God forbid, We're going to the over the North Pole. 00:12:54 Speaker 4: Before you ever step behind a microphone, Charlie understood something important. Leadership begins with learning. He didn't chase a diploma or a title. He chased truth through Hillsdale College's free online courses. He studied the great works of the Classics, the principles of the American Founding, and the life changing truths of the Bible. Those ideas didn't just inform him, They shaped his character, strengthened his convictions, and prepared him for the challenges ahead of. One of the courses he took was The Genesis Story, taught by Hillsdale professor doctor Justin Jackson. 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Lovecraft, and if you fly over it you'll onlyash the Cthulhu horrors that will overrun humanity. 00:14:12 Speaker 6: We could also. 00:14:13 Speaker 4: Say the Thing. 00:14:15 Speaker 8: We could say the Thing was the was a documentary, and that if we were to send planes to south the South Pole, they could crash and allow the Thing to escape and consume all of humanity with its assimilative powers. No idea, you haven't seen the thing. 00:14:30 Speaker 4: Wait, the thing, the Thing. 00:14:33 Speaker 8: You don't even know what I'm talking about. He doesn't even know about the thing, Cliff, you know what the thing is? 00:14:38 Speaker 3: Right? 00:14:40 Speaker 4: Oh? 00:14:40 Speaker 5: I don't. 00:14:43 Speaker 3: You don't. 00:14:43 Speaker 8: No one has anyone. Okay, okay, rumble chat back me up on this. You guys have watched the movie The Thing, right, come on. 00:14:51 Speaker 4: Are you appealing to the chat? 00:14:52 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:14:52 Speaker 8: Some appealing to the chat? 00:14:54 Speaker 4: Who at the movie nineteen eighty two Horror? 00:14:58 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:14:59 Speaker 8: The Thing man, it's We're like, it's real. You can't trust anyone because any of them, and it's the alien and it assimilates and like it poses as people. 00:15:08 Speaker 4: And then the Antarctic, Yeah, Antarctic Antarctica like one of the coolest movies ever. Scientists are disturbed at their base camp by a helicopter shooting at a sled dog. When they take in the dog, it brutally attacks both human beings and can canines in the camp, and they discovered that the beasts can assume the shape of its victims. A resourceful helicopter pilot and the camp doctor lead the camp crew in a desperate, gory battle against the vicious creature before it picks them all off one by one. 00:15:38 Speaker 8: And it's the movie that came out. 00:15:42 Speaker 6: It was the cooler movie that came out at the same time as. 00:15:45 Speaker 3: Et in a World. 00:15:47 Speaker 4: In a world you can't. 00:15:49 Speaker 12: Trust anyone in antarcticat Russell leads a crew desperately attempting to fight back against an alien canine force and they don't. 00:16:00 Speaker 6: Oh wow, that is pretty good. 00:16:01 Speaker 7: Wow did you do you guys? Ever? 00:16:05 Speaker 4: That wasn't scary, It was beautiful. 00:16:09 Speaker 13: You guys ever hear the I'm now diving deep into the Antarctica conspiracies. And I had not heard this one before that they are really secret Nazi bases and that's where Hitler escaped to. 00:16:21 Speaker 5: I hadn't heard that before. 00:16:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, it. 00:16:25 Speaker 14: Slows down the aging process. He's the batman villain known as mister Freeze. 00:16:30 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:16:30 Speaker 6: Well then, yeah, they had like a name of it. 00:16:32 Speaker 8: It's like, what was it like, New Bism Yeah, new Swabia, New Schwabinland they would call it. 00:16:38 Speaker 4: And I believe in the moon landing. I just want to be very clear because. 00:16:45 Speaker 8: Okay, so accepting that the moon landing is real, is it? You know, we're all very excited for that kid, But is it sufficient that we are going back to the moon sixty years after we went for the first time. 00:16:56 Speaker 4: We have way better film production now, so we do prove anything every we do, like it's a hologram. 00:17:04 Speaker 8: Is the mission taint is the mission tainted by us bringing a Canadian on this mission and on. 00:17:10 Speaker 4: The sup Americans. Yeah, what's that, cliff? 00:17:16 Speaker 5: It's a complete disgrace, complete disgrace. And how we let that pass? 00:17:19 Speaker 4: Does he does he have an American flag on his on his shoulder? Look at and there's a woman which god. 00:17:26 Speaker 13: Yeah, but let me let me say this though, I think the whole landing part is like, that's what's impressive. I mean, obviously, you know, I'm not saying that getting to the moon is obviously impressive, but like, you know, what was it? The ballpoint pen and the whole story, you know of what happened, and then getting off the moon like that to me is what you know? 00:17:44 Speaker 5: You think you think what was the movie? We're just saying Armageddon? 00:17:48 Speaker 13: Like you think about the landing part, I do think that discounts the whole trip, that they're not actually landing. 00:17:54 Speaker 8: Well, you build up, you build up to it. It's still the first time. 00:17:57 Speaker 4: It's so weird is that we've already done it before. Were Yeah. 00:18:02 Speaker 8: Really, that's what's tragic is that America abandoned this and we know why because America went all in on dumber stuff. 00:18:09 Speaker 4: You know, Trump brought it back and then Biden shelved it and. 00:18:13 Speaker 8: You know, really brought it back. Amusingly it was Bush. Remember Bush got really into like we should go to the Moon and land on Mars and stuff, and then mood very silly, we should we should land on Mars. This should be this should be step one towards us going to Mars. And we should also think, well. 00:18:31 Speaker 14: Now we're in a race against China the moon. 00:18:34 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, So so China wants to essentially own the Moon, and we're like, we're going to do it first. I don't know what kind of minerals are on the moon, Like, could you mind the moon? 00:18:45 Speaker 8: I think everything. I think anything that would have created minerals on Earth would have made them on the moon too. 00:18:51 Speaker 14: There is a there's an amazing show that I love on Amazon Prime or not Amazon Prime, Apple TV called for All Mankind, and it literally the whole point is like what if the United States had won or. 00:19:04 Speaker 3: Lost the space race back in the seventies. 00:19:06 Speaker 14: And then you kind of go through them landing on the Moon, them putting a permanent base on the Moon, then the race for Mars, and there's a whole like the Cold War actually has a full on kinetic war on the moon. 00:19:23 Speaker 4: Wow, it's kind of cool. What if we. 00:19:28 Speaker 8: If we were losing the space race to China and they were taking over the moon, would it be justified for. 00:19:33 Speaker 6: Us to. 00:19:35 Speaker 8: Blow up the moon? 00:19:38 Speaker 4: Pretty sure? 00:19:39 Speaker 3: That would have some Yeah, that would have some serious consequences. 00:19:43 Speaker 8: Okay, okay, you guys can all be like, there was did you know there was an actual college professor who was obsessed with pushing the idea that we should blow up the moon? 00:19:52 Speaker 3: Really? 00:19:52 Speaker 4: Yes, this is this is obscure, Cliff, what were you going to say? 00:19:56 Speaker 13: No, I was just looking at the Bush stuff because I'd never heard that, Blake, And you're right, this is W. 00:20:01 Speaker 5: Bush. 00:20:02 Speaker 13: His moon goal was to return by twenty twenty, and then his Mars goal, which this is such a simple thing for w to say, was to use the moon quote, use the Moon as a stepping stone to get to Mars, which you know, I get it, but like, yeah, that was in two thousand and four vision for space exploration. 00:20:23 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was so word. 00:20:24 Speaker 8: We're executing on Bush's vision in a variety of ways, right now, there you go. Yes, it was an Iowa State mathematics Professor Alexander Abian spent much of his career advocating that we destroy the moon, which he said would eliminate seasons, the wobble of the Earth, and it would delete all associated events like heat waves, snowstorms, and hurricanes. And he said that those who dismissed him were like those who dismissed Galileo. So he said we should explode the mood. And he was a mathematics professor, so he's smarter than all of us. But speaking of things that are kind of cool but also possibly lame, we also have very fascinating news out of another extreme part of our universe, Mount Everest. So Mount Everest, the tallest mountain in the world, is in the news because Napali's police have discovered a sinister sharp a plot to poison Mount Everest climbers. Apparently they were spiking their food with baking powder or other things, causing them to fall ill so that they would then request a helicopter evacuation off of Mount Everest. 00:21:33 Speaker 4: Extraordinarily daunting, they would. 00:21:34 Speaker 8: Get a helicopter off Mount Everest, which is really expensive, and it was a way to basically scam people into expensive helicopter evacuations off of Mount Everest. Apparently it involved over twenty people and it may have cost over twenty million dollars worth of expensive helicopter evacuation guaranteed. 00:21:53 Speaker 4: It it's like American insurance companies paying for it. 00:21:55 Speaker 3: Totally. 00:21:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, We're like, somehow the Somalians figure out a way to defraud us and the Nepalese. 00:22:03 Speaker 6: It really is sinister. 00:22:04 Speaker 8: Like you think of what a cash cow just having Mount Everest is for the Nepalese economy, and then these guys are like, no, it's not enough. We have to do this insane scam on the people coming here to spend money. 00:22:15 Speaker 14: Well on top of it too, like mostly culture. Most of these people going up Mount Everest are rich people who are bored anyways. So it's like, oh, so you're gonna scam them out of even more money, got it? 00:22:28 Speaker 5: That? 00:22:28 Speaker 8: So the reason I wanted to bring this up is similar thoughts. So, Okay, they're scamming the people who climbed Mount Everest, But the bigger idea, the thought crime idea, is climbing Mount Everest actually cool still? Or is it actually kind of lame? Yay, let's be let's be frank here. The first guy to climb Mount Everest did it in the fifties and he had to figure it out. Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay, they had to figure out how to get to the top of the mountain. And you know, they were gonna die if they failed, and they had to do all the work. But now you could just be a rich person and go climb Mount Everest. You just And it's the Shirpas, the local Napoleese. They do all of the hard work of figuring out. They basically create the route up there. You just they guide you up the whole way. And yeah, you can die. 00:23:14 Speaker 4: But a lot of people die every year. 00:23:16 Speaker 8: Yeah, but you can also die in like a normal car crash too. And I'm not a hero or brave for driving my car around Phoenix. I think it's not exactly the same, but it is. It's much deadlier. Have you seen the Phoenix drivers. 00:23:28 Speaker 3: It's bad. 00:23:28 Speaker 4: It's bad, Am I saying that? 00:23:31 Speaker 3: Right? 00:23:33 Speaker 4: Police? They I mean they are really impressive. The fact that these guys go up and down, up and down, up and down like there's there's Yeah, they're impressive. They're impressive. 00:23:42 Speaker 6: They're impressive. 00:23:43 Speaker 8: The rich the West like I remember about this is when I was in high. 00:23:50 Speaker 4: School or so technical training. 00:23:51 Speaker 8: This guy became the first blind person to climb to the top of Mount Everest. And yeah, you can say that's amazing he's blind, But the other way you could phrase it is, okay, a blind person can do this. 00:24:03 Speaker 4: It does start to degrade the accomplishment for everybody else. Yeah, and you know what's interesting about Everest is that there's like a bunch of there's a bunch of like trash everywhere. It's become really like dirty the room because so many people do it. 00:24:17 Speaker 8: And the standard thing is you use oxygen tanks and then you just chuck the metal tank. It's there for the rest of eternity. You you're climbing with your climbing buddy and he gets tired, so you chuck him his entire body to the side to get to the top and abandon him. And they do throw up the b roll of it. It's it's content warning here. But there's a lot of corpses on Mount Everest, and in fact, some of them are important landmarks. 00:24:44 Speaker 4: The flag. 00:24:45 Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, and like this is what will happen. You will get tired, you'll be in the death zone and you just get tired, and they the guides will say like, you need to get up or you're gonna die. You have to keep moving. But if you can't keep moving, they just ditch you there. And if you're high up enough, you can't get that scam helicopter rest. 00:25:02 Speaker 4: So now you're making it sound cool to hike Mount Ever, like, if you it's impressive if you hike Mount Evers. 00:25:08 Speaker 8: Yeah, but it's also again it's that combo where the sherpas are doing all the hard work. So if you go out there and you just die and you're not doing the hard work to climb, you're just sort of hazarding high altitude and you might get altitude sickness and keel over. It just sort of feels dumb to me. 00:25:25 Speaker 14: It's the mountain climbing equivalent of getting into a cage and swimming with sharks. 00:25:33 Speaker 5: Like, it's not I got the numbers here, what do you what do you think? 00:25:36 Speaker 3: I like that die per year? Yeah? 00:25:38 Speaker 4: How many people die per year? I'm not sure I'm sold on this analogy yet. 00:25:41 Speaker 5: I think I actually thought it was much higher. Go ahead, take a guess before you look it up. 00:25:45 Speaker 3: I got the numbers ten. 00:25:47 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I would say, I want to say it's like it comes in bursts, like there will be years where no one dies or one dies, and then there will be a bad storm and maybe like ten people last year, I would I would say average one or two. 00:25:59 Speaker 13: Last year was five, which is a pretty low number. Eight deaths in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty three. 00:26:04 Speaker 5: And eighteen deaths holy and then the notable one was twenty fifteen there was a huge avalanche around base camp. Nineteen people died. Wow, it's lower than I thought. 00:26:15 Speaker 8: I thought Everest that's the worst of all. You go to Everest and you just die in an avalanche at base camp. That sucks. 00:26:25 Speaker 4: I had thought about it that way. Yeah, did I mean, but I wonder how many of those were hikers in sherpas or did the sherpas that were like we know how to avoid this. 00:26:34 Speaker 6: There are there are definitely to take a lot of sheas. 00:26:38 Speaker 14: Really some girl named Stephanie just doing the check in list and what the. 00:26:43 Speaker 13: Twenty twenty fourteen there were sixteen sherpas because there was some sort of like that was there were the only people that died that year. There was some sort of ice ball collapse that was twenty fourteen six or sixteen. 00:26:56 Speaker 4: Back for all these Sherpa deaths that have happened throughout the year, they're getting they're back at at Whitey. 00:27:02 Speaker 8: Yeah. I can kind of see that in a dark story. Yeah, this is it's very dark. But no, we need comments. If anyone else thoughts, is it lame to climb Mount Everest. 00:27:12 Speaker 6: Let's see. 00:27:13 Speaker 4: I don't think it's quite as lame as you know, or like it's more harrowing than floating in a shark tank completely protected, because the only way you die that way is if you have. 00:27:22 Speaker 14: Some sort of like I mean, have you seen the videos of sharks getting stuck in there and and people literally like up against the back of the cage because the face got stuck in there. 00:27:32 Speaker 4: Oh no, but I mean I guess that makes some sense. But it's not like if you're a small enough shark to get through a cage and a shark tank, you're probably not like a man eater kind of. 00:27:41 Speaker 6: Andrew's the kind of guy. 00:27:41 Speaker 8: He watches Jaws and the guy gets in the cage and he's like, I could do that. 00:27:45 Speaker 4: It isn't scary. 00:27:47 Speaker 11: He watches the meg and he's like, Jason Stath has nothing on me. But at least the meg is a fictional shark. Jaws a real shark, and just Jaws is not. Yeah, it's not a conspiracy. The moonlanding's fake Andrew. 00:28:02 Speaker 8: Andrew's just watching Jaws, and he's like, they don't need a bigger boat. 00:28:06 Speaker 6: I could take that out on a jet ski. 00:28:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely don't. 00:28:08 Speaker 5: Think you know, Jaws. 00:28:09 Speaker 13: Jaws rocked me to my core as a kid because one of the behind the scenes shows Spielberg when they put the oxygen tank in the shark and then they shoot it, and then obviously the shark explodes, and apparently somebody technical and scene was like, well, Steven, if you shoot an auction tank, it's not necessarily going to explode, and he was just. 00:28:28 Speaker 5: Like, they'll believe that it explodes. 00:28:31 Speaker 13: That was like his whole line for doing that, Like there's no you shoot an oxtionen tank, it's not going to explode. 00:28:37 Speaker 4: But by the fact that he was just like, they'll believe it explodes goes back to the moon landing. Good director knows what the audience will believe. 00:28:48 Speaker 8: Is mister Kubrick, They'll never think this is real, they'll believe we landed on it. Honestly, the least the reason all the Kubrick conspiracy theories about the moon landing don't work is that, knowing what we do about Stanley Kubrick would have made them redo the landing about fifty times before he'd be satisfied with the take. So that's probably the best argument against that particular weird conspiracy. 00:29:09 Speaker 4: Well, I actually again, I believe the moonlanding happened. I just understand why some do. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about why Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments, maybe you're even in default. 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You'll be you'll be very disappointed in me. 00:30:39 Speaker 5: So in a past life, I think Andrew might know this. 00:30:42 Speaker 13: But I was a math teacher and I taught in New Zealand, and so I got to go to hobbiton It was an interesting trip. I have never seen the series, so talk about being a bad guest and somebody who cannot comment, I have no clue. 00:30:57 Speaker 5: I've obviously seen. 00:30:58 Speaker 13: Clips, but I did not feel the Lord Jesus Christ when I was at Hobitant that is my thought for this time. 00:31:06 Speaker 4: Score one for Jack right there. 00:31:08 Speaker 3: Yep. 00:31:08 Speaker 8: I don't get these takes where it's like it's pagan, unless like Frodo collapses on his knees and confesses Jesus as his Lord and savior. But admittedly that's it went quite viral. I got sent. 00:31:20 Speaker 6: I have friends in. 00:31:21 Speaker 8: Europe who also don't know that I work on this program, who were sending me that clip. So let's remind people what it was. Let's do clip fourteen. 00:31:32 Speaker 15: I've heard people try to make the argument that Lord of the Rings is overtly Christian, and I hate the burst the bubble guys, but you're just wrong. There's nothing overtly Christian about Lord of the Rings. There's no church in it, there's no faith in it, there's no christ figure, there's. 00:31:46 Speaker 3: None of these things. 00:31:48 Speaker 15: And honestly, Lord of the Rings, if it's anything, Lord of the Rings is overtly pagan. 00:31:53 Speaker 3: I would like the record to reflect that when I was nodding and smiling, it was because I've heard that pick before and not with Jack. 00:32:02 Speaker 4: Get me that final frame. This is my defense. Give me the final frame. My face goes like he goes overtly pagan and I go. 00:32:11 Speaker 6: Because he was thinking, he agrees with. 00:32:13 Speaker 3: It unless you're unless you were trying to hold back a sneeze. 00:32:15 Speaker 4: Well that was not what I was trying to do. I was like, huh hmmm, all. 00:32:20 Speaker 6: Right, Well everyone got very spirited about it. Everyone was ganging up on Jack. 00:32:24 Speaker 8: They were all going after him, and so he I believe he insisted he had to call back in again himself. So I think we've got him on hold. Jack. Are you there still crying? 00:32:35 Speaker 10: Are they still crying? They're still crying? Are that what's going on right now? 00:32:41 Speaker 3: There? 00:32:42 Speaker 10: The Lord of the Rings? Like, uh, Lord of the Rings is is Catholic? People are still crying about this. 00:32:53 Speaker 6: Oh it's Jack Steine music. 00:32:55 Speaker 3: It's the favorite music. He listens to this regularly. 00:33:00 Speaker 16: What's weird is that? 00:33:02 Speaker 5: Like? 00:33:02 Speaker 16: Is that like really so what's really weird about this is that, like really stupid people who don't have brain cells thought that I was saying that I didn't like the Lord of the Rings or like that Lord of the Rings was bad, or that I like the amount of hallucinations and drugs that people were taking, kind of like the earlier Lord of the Rings fans who are. 00:33:24 Speaker 10: The hippies are. It was just amazing to see all of these things that people responding to that I literally didn't say because people forget what we were talking about this because of the Stephen Colbert sequel to Lord of the Rings, and the whole point of it was me trying to explain why someone who's like an arch liberal would like Lord of the Rings, but then someone who's, you know, like an arch conservative like JD. Vance would also like the same series. And it's amazing to me that, man, not only did I burst the bubble, I burst it so bad that they're still crying about it. And I've also realized that people don't know what the word overt means, where yes, overt means on the surface level, which is actually something that was said by wait for it, J. R. R. Tolkien, the writer of the series, who said that he eliminated religion from the series, and it is not found until you review it further. 00:34:23 Speaker 4: All right, what do you do? Do you buy this? Do you buy his defense here? 00:34:28 Speaker 8: I don't, uh. 00:34:30 Speaker 10: No, it it's just it's just true true. 00:34:34 Speaker 8: I don't know. 00:34:35 Speaker 3: I just feel like I don't know. 00:34:37 Speaker 6: I just think he's picking a fight. 00:34:39 Speaker 8: He's picking a fight over the wrong thing, the wrong. 00:34:42 Speaker 4: People, original one that write about I want to get that. Send me the original like post from Human Events, Roger. I want to because there's some people brought up some good points, Jack, and I want to give you a go ahead. 00:34:59 Speaker 10: I I mean, I'm happy to respond to all the incorrect points that people were making. 00:35:04 Speaker 4: You know, there was a couple, there were some people who came to your defense as well, like Joshua Isaac, he had your bag. Let me see here. 00:35:13 Speaker 3: I can't find the. 00:35:14 Speaker 10: Original New York Times multiple best selling author Joshua Isaac. 00:35:20 Speaker 4: There it is okay, all right, communists, It's like communists, It's okay. So let's just deal with the community. Note Jack, it says in letter one two to Father Robert Murray j R. R. Tolkien describes Lord of the Rings as a fundamentally religious and Catholic work. 00:35:37 Speaker 10: So in that letter they clipped off the end of what he said. He said it's foundational, fundamental in the sense that it's at the lower level. But he also says that he eliminated religion from the series itself, and that you do not you don't encounter it until you go into the lower level. Until upon the revision, so he removed all of the overt elements of religion. So all of the Lord of the Rings stands like got really really mad and decided to take their own favorite author out of context. It's really sad, actually, Jack, Like, why are you guys twisting the words of Tolkien if you love him so much? 00:36:17 Speaker 4: This is interesting? So Tom Roswell you can find him at on exit Tom underscore Ros Rosell, Sorry, Roselle r ow s E l L. He says pagan here Tolkien was Catholic, and Lord of the Rings is pagan mythology repurposed and imbued with Christian morality. It isn't actually pagan, so it's kind of like a quasi, which is what kind of what I think you were saying actually, And a lot of people made the point Jack that since it, you know, Middle Earth in the whole theme is what ten thousand years before our current moment or something like that, it was like some mythological an take equity that it couldn't have. Christ had not come yet at that point, so it had to be pre Christian, but it was imbued with Christian morality. Pagan mythology imbued with Christian morality. Would you agree with that presentation from this pagan. 00:37:14 Speaker 10: I certainly would, because again the pagan here is not understanding what I'm saying. I didn't say anything about the morality of the series. I was talking about the overt, surface level elements of the story. Dwarves, elves, knights, dragons, wizards. Again, this is all pagan mythology. Gandolf is basically a version of Odin. You have a pantheon of gods and one higher god. Again, this is all just pagan mythology. As Tolkien himself said many. 00:37:50 Speaker 3: Times, Gandolf is a guide. He's not Odin. 00:37:53 Speaker 14: He's an angel's That's more of what Tolkien was saying. 00:37:57 Speaker 3: But I didn't have to like Gandalf is. 00:37:59 Speaker 10: So Tolki and himself, well, don't don't lie, don't don't twist Tolkien. Tolkien himself said that Gandalf is based on. 00:38:05 Speaker 14: Odin in the in the sense of wandering, not in the sense of like actual like like Odin. But the the core of it is that you know, as with Christianity. He wrote that it's absolute truth, like Lord of the Rings is is written with at its core absolute truth, as in as good versus evil, whereas in paganism there is no like absolute truth. There's just it's there's relative morality. If that's the right word that I'm thinking of. 00:38:39 Speaker 4: Uh, somebody, this one got some play here. It says it's not like Norse mythology. 00:38:44 Speaker 10: Okay, but that's that's a morality. That's the morality. That's not that's not we're just talking overt that's that's that's again, I didn't say anything about the morality. 00:38:54 Speaker 4: Oh, I think he's gonna that's still overtly. 00:38:56 Speaker 14: Yeah, that's still overtly. The morality part is vote overtly Christian. I know what overtly means. 00:39:05 Speaker 10: I'm just saying, but again, a different but that's a different Okay, But you're just making a different argument than I was making. 00:39:14 Speaker 4: Fair Enough, if you're a parent, you don't need to be told that online safety is important. 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And there's only one god and Lord of the Rings, and it's explicitly like the Christian God. 00:40:15 Speaker 10: So that's yeah, but that's not true. There are there are powerful creatures called the Velar that operate as sort of a pantheon of God. 00:40:23 Speaker 8: But like the Loserrater is a powerful creature. It's not a pagan god. 00:40:26 Speaker 4: No, but it's obviously like to his point, it's magical or old. 00:40:30 Speaker 3: Well Arnia, Soarnia has Narnia. 00:40:33 Speaker 14: Has a supposedly a it's an allegory, right, Narnia has an allegory of the Bible has centaurs, not even just that. But no, but but that's that's your point, Jack, It has magical creatures. But it it's in your in your own words, it is a direct allegory of the Bible because it has Christ in it. Well, actually, in Narnia, Christ is a a lion. I don't know that Christ is a lion in our world. But there's magical creatures in Narnia, unlike. 00:41:10 Speaker 10: And you would have to you would have to take that up with JR. Well, you would you find yourself in disagreement with j R. R. Tolkien then, because j R. Tolkien said that Narnia is a direct allegory of the Bible. 00:41:24 Speaker 4: Okay, so okay here here's here's an interesting one, Jack. This is from octoberboyo uh it's it says it pulls most heavily from Norse mythology. Take the Volsunga saga, for example, which revolves around Loki stealing a ring from a dwarf, which is then cursed to bring death and destruction to whoever owns it. This also inspired Richard Wagner's famous ring cycle opera. That's kind of an interesting one. 00:41:52 Speaker 13: You know. 00:41:53 Speaker 8: I'm just I'm just still getting hung up on this point. It has powerful creatures. Okay, well, the Bible has those angels who fall to earth. It's got the Nephelin, it's got the Devil and his angels are popping up in jolations. We have demons possessing people, and yeah, God has power over them, but they are portrayed as existing. 00:42:14 Speaker 10: Look, look we can. We can go around and around and split hairs on all this like all day long, and believe me, I'd love to like. I love this stuff. We like way more than politics. As you can tell, obviously, we're all into it. I like Tolkien. I like Lord of the Rings. Like I saw people accusing me of saying that I didn't like it, I didn't say that at all, actually, and what I was trying to get at, I guess, if anything, was that I think that for the current moment, that we do need things that more are more explicitly Christian, because we live in such a fall in society right now, that we need things that aren't just Christian morality, like below the surface I'm talking about over outwards blaze of Christianity and the Christian symbology. I think that's really important, and you see a lot of that in society today, where people are bringing back those Christian symbols. So I'm talking about like what should we use as a tool to evangelize. And as great as Lord of the Rings is, I just don't think it's great of a tool if you're explicitly trying to bring people to the Cross. I mean, it might be good as like a really really outward gateway drug, but it has spawned so many Pagans and neo Pagans and Wickans and Elvish other kin. In fact, the word other Kin itself comes from Lord of the Rings fans who originally were like the hippies and the counterculture left. So you know, it's kind of a work that can be taken multiple ways. And I've thought, as great as it is, you know, it's just not something that I would use for that function. 00:43:57 Speaker 4: I mean, Stephen Colbert is a Catholic. I mean, I'm not saying it's good. 00:44:01 Speaker 6: We're going wrong with that, No, I think I feel like the best. 00:44:06 Speaker 3: Biden. 00:44:07 Speaker 4: Come on, I'm just saying it's not like Fulbert is distinctly self professing. 00:44:13 Speaker 8: Well, okay, so we have one more topic we want to get so I want to make one more final argument to Jack. It's this, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great. 00:44:29 Speaker 3: I have to I have to say though. 00:44:32 Speaker 10: Real quick, like you got me there, Blake, you got you got me there. 00:44:37 Speaker 14: I have to say though, like specifically when it comes to evangelizing, I don't know any of my friends that are not Christian who would who whose eyes don't glaze over the minute I start talking about anything that is fundamentally like like in your face, spoonf Like, here's the gospel message right off, because growing up, my mom used to have these movies from pure Flix and every single one is poorly made, but it's just the Bible thrown in your face and it just didn't it just doesn't work. But something with like Lord of the Rings is like you still have the opportunity to take something that is good material, good. It's a good book, it's a good movie, and. 00:45:28 Speaker 3: You're able to walk through. 00:45:31 Speaker 14: The elements of the Gospel and the elements of Christianity with something like Lord of the Rings that and non Christian can get behind because they're not being just pummeled over the head with the Gospel like we're supposed to be salt and light we're supposed to be out there, We're supposed to be all of that, and I agree with that. But at the same time, most Christians and most non Christians do not care to listen to the uh, the Gospel message right off the bat. You have to tease them in. You have to bring them in in some way, shape or form. And that's what Lord of the Rings has done for generations, even just with the books. But then once the movies came out. 00:46:15 Speaker 3: So that's all I'm gonna say. That's my final word on it. 00:46:17 Speaker 6: I think my argument was a bit better. 00:46:19 Speaker 10: Yeah, well, look, I'm not gonna I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say it doesn't it doesn't lead to conversions. I mean jd Vance of course is a great example of that, you know, to steal man your argument that you know, here's and he, of course, Jadie's got a book out coming out as well about in conversion and his like return to the faith. And and we know that, you know, we know that he has talked about Lord of the Rings in this context before, and so I'm not going to discount anything of that. And I'll point out that obviously that's a great example, but at the same time, JD. Vance is a unicorn, and we do not have a lot of JD. Vances that you will not run across a lot of them. 00:46:59 Speaker 3: So I wouldn't. 00:47:00 Speaker 10: Uh, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to say that the unicorn is always the best way. But you're right, Yeah, obviously the pure flakes stuff. And I'm not knocking those guys at all, but I I get what you're saying in terms of the criticism there, and no, I would also not hold up that stuff either. 00:47:13 Speaker 4: A lot of the a lot of the comments, by the way, were that Tolkien never said that Narnia was too overtly Christian. That wasn't the problem. The problem was that it was too allegorical and he preferred uh, more sophisticated or more vague, less on the nose. 00:47:28 Speaker 8: Yeah, whatever, you know, all that symbolism. He was all there, all butt hurt because Tolkien was an Anglican and everything. 00:47:34 Speaker 10: I mean, that's that's splitting. That's amatic. We're talking about the like overt allegorical, overtly it's again, it's it's it's you're splitting here. That's semantics. It's the same thing all right, Well. 00:47:47 Speaker 5: Jack, we should be talking. 00:47:49 Speaker 13: We should be talking about veggietails and whether that went woke or not. 00:47:52 Speaker 5: I'm looking for that opinion. 00:47:53 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna watch anything. 00:47:55 Speaker 3: As somebody who grew up on vegetails. 00:47:57 Speaker 8: I'm sure I did. But everything, okay, I just don't watch you taells men after two thousand. 00:48:01 Speaker 6: And three or whatever. Just watch the old ones. 00:48:04 Speaker 4: All right. So the final topic is something, Well, we got it. 00:48:08 Speaker 8: Jack's gotta bounce when you Jack, you have to bounce, Jack. Yeah, Jack's got. 00:48:12 Speaker 6: An intro an event that's going on soon. 00:48:15 Speaker 4: Does he have to bounce now? 00:48:16 Speaker 6: Because I believe so. 00:48:17 Speaker 10: I mean, I can hang for I can hang. I can hang for a little bit actually, because we have like here, I'm back stage of George Washington and the event is filling up. I see a ton of kids. I've got like a camera feed. A ton of kids are coming in Erica. The team are here, Carolyn Levitt's going to be here. I mean, this is going to be a huge event. It's the kickoff of this is the turning point I get. I can hang for like a couple more, maybe one more topic. I hang. 00:48:46 Speaker 8: Alright, Well, then you're very lucky because we have great or pagan too overtly something. Alright, you're going to talk about We're going to talk about the most famous person from the South to f we have to talk about the most famous person from South Dakota right now. 00:49:03 Speaker 6: And that is. 00:49:08 Speaker 8: Yeah, all right. I'm a big fan. 00:49:13 Speaker 6: I'm a fan of my home state. 00:49:15 Speaker 8: But there have been strange reportings and rumblings from it in the past week. So many of us, myself included, felt a lot of sympathy for the husband of Christy Nome because of the widespread rumors about her amorous activities with another person. And he was at her hearing testifying before Congress when they were grilling her about this. It was all very strange. Everyone felt very bad, but someone didn't feel bad. Instead, they just went and they leaked his entire private life to the Daily Mail. 00:49:47 Speaker 4: There are reports that she had been talking about this behind the scenes for a while. 00:49:52 Speaker 6: It's very possible. 00:49:53 Speaker 8: I don't know what the reports are, but apparently just to catch people up on it, Brian Noam has some sort of hobby and that hobby is Look, we should be clear, Yeah, which of us hasn't inflated a balloon? And then shoved it down our shirt to pretend that it's a cartoonishly large pair of breasts so that we can then send a bunch of money to strippers. 00:50:19 Speaker 10: You know, I'm getting. Uh, I'm getting, I'm getting, I'm getting notification. It turns out I actually do have to go the. 00:50:31 Speaker 4: Uh run Jack, run. 00:50:34 Speaker 3: You guys. 00:50:35 Speaker 10: Man, You guys have a have a great time. I'm out here with Turning Point USA. I don't know if you've heard of them, great organization. I'm just gonna just gonna be with those guys tonight. Uh, that's fun. 00:50:46 Speaker 4: I understand, Jack, I understand, all right, But I wish I could run. 00:50:49 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:50:49 Speaker 8: Well, you're trapped. You're trapped. 00:50:53 Speaker 4: Imagine being a young woman just finding out that you're pregnant, not knowing where to go or what to do, not even knowing exactly what is going on in your body, while the whole world tells her it's just a clump of cells. You and I we both know the truth. We know it is a baby. And once she has an ultrasound that you provide and she sees the truth of the baby growing inside of her, you help her choose life. 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Again that's eight three three eight five zero two two two nine, or click on the preborn banner at Charliekirk dot com. 00:52:10 Speaker 6: So this is actually this is kind of man. 00:52:13 Speaker 4: Why do you feel bad for Blake? 00:52:14 Speaker 8: Well, I guess what I would say is it's very bad. It is very bad. It's gross. It's basically transgenderism adjacent, like we should honestly be happy he hasn't already troned out as it were. 00:52:25 Speaker 10: Uh. 00:52:26 Speaker 8: But at the same time, my understanding is he basically he was never leaking anything against his wife. 00:52:33 Speaker 6: He was never doing anything. 00:52:34 Speaker 8: Publicly to humiliate her. And there's something off about me that this is bad. This is one hundred percent bad, and he should not do it. But he also was not a public figure. He didn't hold any office. He was an insurance salesman in I think Castlewoods, South Dakota. I can't remember the name because I've never been to it. 00:52:51 Speaker 6: It's that small. That's who he is. 00:52:53 Speaker 8: And he just like blasted on the Daily Mail. And in some sense, it's almost like blasting any random person for doing that. And if this guy is not publicly putting himself out there, if he's not a lawmaker himself, something feels very dark about just leaking all of that. 00:53:10 Speaker 6: But that said, it is very gross. 00:53:13 Speaker 4: So this is what Ryan James Gerdesky was reporting. He said, I mentioned on my podcast months ago that one of Trump's cabinet members was telling reporters off the record that her husband was gay. I didn't name by name out of respect for privacy, But to say she had no idea really flies in the face of what she was saying. 00:53:34 Speaker 6: And Ryan, this is a little bit different from being gay. 00:53:37 Speaker 4: So Ryanwhile, it could just be I don't know, well. 00:53:43 Speaker 8: What it is is based on what it is, it's auto ginophilia like that, that's what's going on with cross dressers. It's that his kink is like that himself becoming the woman he is attracted to. So it's a particularly messed up form being straight. 00:53:57 Speaker 4: What he's what he's saying is in the report, she's like a spokesman four non basically says she's devastated, she had no idea, please respect their privacy kind of thing, saying she's devastating, the family is blindsided by this. They're asking privacy and prayer, which is a funny way to put it. Blindsided. Maybe you could you could say that she was telling the truth, that she's blindsided by the fact that the report went public, okay, Or she's blindsided by this revelation that her husband is dressing up with fake. 00:54:29 Speaker 8: Huge boobs, or she could just be not telling the truth, or she could just be come on. 00:54:33 Speaker 13: Guys, we can't we can't justify this. This is demonic, this is wild. 00:54:37 Speaker 4: Who's just and what gets me? 00:54:39 Speaker 3: No, No, I don't. 00:54:40 Speaker 13: I mean, like when we talk about it, it's like, all right, well, why would he do this? 00:54:43 Speaker 5: It's weird. 00:54:44 Speaker 13: And I gotta say this, I am always so impressed with how I always think, oh, you know, I've seen it all and there is something about political power and look, yeah he might not be a public figure, but his wife's a cabinet member. 00:54:59 Speaker 5: There's just some in the political world where these. 00:55:01 Speaker 13: Sexual deviance come out and it's like they're challenging or trying to do what is not allowed. It's almost like they're attracted to do things that are deemed not appropriate. But seeing this story, I mean, I couldn't even look at the photos. The guy is weird, he's got a problem, and it's just to me, it's almost hilarious that some of this stuff comes out, because any normal person looks at this and is like, what the hell is going on in the political world in America? 00:55:29 Speaker 8: Well, just off for context, because we're gonna have we're gonna have libs bully Brian know about this, and yet we had to pretend for years on end that what's her name in the Biden administration, Rachel Levine, that Rachel Levine was like a totally normal person and totally Richard live whatever. 00:55:46 Speaker 6: Well, and then. 00:55:47 Speaker 8: On top of that, Sam Brinton totally normal dude. While he's I mean, at least what we'll say, Brian know him, nobody so far, No one so far has accused him of stealing anyone's luggage. I don't really want to take any polymarket bets on what he might have been doing with his wife's clothes. 00:56:04 Speaker 14: But and if CLI hates those photos, he's gonna hate the ones coming up next. 00:56:09 Speaker 3: This. 00:56:10 Speaker 8: Oh gosh, wait what hold hold on? 00:56:12 Speaker 3: What? 00:56:13 Speaker 4: Uh? 00:56:13 Speaker 3: You know what I do? My job? 00:56:15 Speaker 14: Well, that's all I'm gonna say. I was asked and I by whom? 00:56:20 Speaker 3: You know? I'm gonna throw Angelo under the bus on this one. He was like, hey, this would be funny. 00:56:24 Speaker 8: I agree. 00:56:25 Speaker 3: I thought it was funny. Yeah, let's pull up photo eighteen. 00:56:30 Speaker 6: But wait, what are we about to see here? 00:56:32 Speaker 5: Oh? 00:56:33 Speaker 3: Just wait, it'll be It's great. Is there is nineteen? 00:56:39 Speaker 4: Hold on. 00:56:41 Speaker 3: Twenty was disgusting? 00:56:44 Speaker 14: Oh oh twenty one? 00:56:49 Speaker 8: This is yeah? 00:56:51 Speaker 3: Twenty two? 00:56:52 Speaker 8: Why did why did Cliff get such a Cliff Cliss. 00:56:55 Speaker 6: Is way more located. 00:56:57 Speaker 8: Yeah, and twenty weird and then of course all, okay, so that's that's Marco Rubio auditioning for the job of Christina's next husband. 00:57:06 Speaker 3: I suppose you're welcome. You're welcome. 00:57:09 Speaker 8: You know, if you're only listening to the on a podcast episode, we're not gonna We're not gonna tell you what. 00:57:15 Speaker 4: The Jack one was really funny. 00:57:18 Speaker 3: Throw that one back up. 00:57:19 Speaker 6: That was funny. 00:57:20 Speaker 3: Jack is here with us in the Spirits. 00:57:23 Speaker 4: So funny is it looks like one of those uh hey, it was like adult you know, female books that it's like, you know, it's like poorn for women, you know, the. 00:57:34 Speaker 8: I know, I don't know, You're you're digging yourself. 00:57:37 Speaker 4: You're gonna have to describe these books. 00:57:40 Speaker 8: Whoa, whoa, you're throwing me under the bow just suddenly getting attacked by Andrew his stare kind of. 00:57:47 Speaker 4: You know, it just it worked. 00:57:49 Speaker 8: Oh like that facial expression you had last week with Jack, when you're talking about the Pagans, You're defending yourself with your facial expression. 00:57:56 Speaker 4: You should have put you should have done the prosthetics with that face rather. 00:58:01 Speaker 14: Oh, you know, it was already hard to try to get Grock to add chesticles to all y'all. 00:58:06 Speaker 6: But so here's the thought. 00:58:09 Speaker 8: What if Brian Noman just come out and just said that's an AI pick and it's all fake. 00:58:15 Speaker 3: A defense. 00:58:18 Speaker 4: Through AI software, you can run it through AI software and find out if it actually is and it you know, guaranteed reporters would have been like, we ran the photo through AI and it is not a I. 00:58:27 Speaker 6: And you could just be like, they're full of it. 00:58:28 Speaker 14: So what you do, especially with X's algorithm right now, you take that the actual photo, you throw it into AI, make a bunch of AI photos of it, and then just get a bunch of people to circulate it around X. And then all of a sudden, you don't know what's what and what's this is full on? 00:58:45 Speaker 4: We are cooked, aren't we? The AI? 00:58:48 Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you who is cooked. 00:58:49 Speaker 13: None of us can run for political office now that we all just laughed at those photos shots. 00:58:57 Speaker 4: I mean, I was disgested for the record, but good thing I wasn't planning on run for political obviosens fair enough, oh man, Although I do I do see a russ uh Rest congressional seat at some point. 00:59:08 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, that ain't happening. 00:59:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, especially the Lord of the Rings question. 00:59:15 Speaker 14: You know what I got? I got marked safe by nerd Ronic and the guys. Uh, I'm I'm fully okay with that. 00:59:22 Speaker 4: I don't understand why I didn't get marked safe? Why was I not mark safe? 00:59:24 Speaker 3: Because you hadn't watched it? 00:59:26 Speaker 8: You you The problem. 00:59:28 Speaker 3: Was is you explained that you hadn't seen it in like ten years. 00:59:31 Speaker 4: I mean that's probably human. Well that's like no, like I saw them when they came out and when they were like you know on the streamers. 00:59:41 Speaker 8: Faugh, what if every member of the Fellowship had the Brian nome. 00:59:45 Speaker 3: Look, oh, no, I don't want to do that. 00:59:48 Speaker 14: I clock, I don't know the orcs just Grock is gonna start being what is wrong with you? 00:59:57 Speaker 3: Off? 00:59:58 Speaker 8: Yeah, there'd be a lot of subtle political commentary if you bimboed up the ORCS that kind of resents they really would just basically. 01:00:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I've heard I actually sort of I just to wrap it up, put a fine point on it. It feels like some people are alleging that potentially our ex Cabinet secretary was aware of this, maybe helped leak it. We have no knowledge of that. Being the truth. But we do have a reporting that says she was aware of it and not blindsided. 01:00:25 Speaker 6: But it'd be hard to not be aware either. 01:00:27 Speaker 4: Or it is a sad story because they do have kids, and I feel bad for them. So hopefully they can pick up something like that destroys the family. Yeah, hopefully they can pick up the pieces. And I don't know what the future for them. 01:00:44 Speaker 5: I don't know how she didn't know. 01:00:46 Speaker 13: As big as those prosthetics or whatever you call them, would you call them male? 01:00:50 Speaker 5: What did you call them? 01:00:51 Speaker 3: Chesticles? 01:00:53 Speaker 13: Yeah, chesticles, as big as they were. I don't know where you're hiding those mats. 01:00:58 Speaker 8: It was a balloon. 01:01:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a balloon. 01:01:00 Speaker 8: Yeah, balloon. 01:01:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why they were so wonky. Yeah. 01:01:05 Speaker 5: You guys have a lot of experience in details. 01:01:10 Speaker 4: Rest is with all this. 01:01:11 Speaker 3: I'm new. I'm new. I just got here last week. 01:01:14 Speaker 4: You're not new, That's true, Cardiff's true. 01:01:18 Speaker 14: Any final thoughts, Lord of the Rings is Christian culture, thank you and good night. 01:01:24 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to agree with you on that one. But if you're a dude dressing up like a woman, that is not Christian culture. 01:01:32 Speaker 13: Andrew, Andrew, let me give a quick shout out Erica came out with Tyler to open up the Las Vegas headquarters. 01:01:40 Speaker 5: Want to take congrats. 01:01:41 Speaker 13: Really excited about the partnership between my group, Citizens Alliance and Turning Point. 01:01:45 Speaker 5: We got a lot of swing states. 01:01:46 Speaker 13: We're going to be battling, obviously, as Charlie's vision worked backwards from twenty twenty eight with the presidential and in twenty twenty six, I think it's going to be a tough year, but I think we're obviously going to do the work through the ground game and really excited about that partnership. We have a lot more details over the next couple of months as we roll things out. 01:02:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a big, a big development. Nevada is key to building the Red Wall, along with New Hampshire and Arizona. So we're by the way if you guys want to get involved with what we're doing. Their Turning Point Action, Turningpoint Action dot Com. Obviously there's also cliffs work Citizens Alliance, but it's a great partnership. So congrats as well. Cliff. I know you're central to that whole whole vision, so big, big moves, and like I said, there's so much I sometimes I wonder if anybody else is doing anything as much like media interest as there always is. I mean, I'm about at the point where I'm just gonna say, like, you know, no comment, leave us alone, like legit, is anybody else doing anything because we seem to be the topic of conversation twenty for seven. Thank you guys all for joining. 01:02:58 Speaker 8: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charlikirk dot com.