THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 119 — Canceling Cesar Chavez? Downvote Buttons? Venezuelan Statehood?

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The oldest memory I have a Phoenix is that I came here when I was like nine or so because my dad had a work trip here and I was at the Phoenician and I was watching the Are You Afraid of the Dark? Movie on There's the Hotel TV? There was a movie there was There was like a made for TV movie that was like two hours long and it wasn't a story like the kids had to fight evil like in real life. 00:01:50 Speaker 6: So they are You Afraid of the Dark? That literally I think about all the time is the one where I think the kids turn into like dolls or something and they there. 00:02:01 Speaker 7: Do you remember it? Does anyone remember this one? 00:02:03 Speaker 4: I don't remember. 00:02:04 Speaker 6: There's a dollhouse and the kids turn into dolls and their and their their their skin becomes porcelain. 00:02:10 Speaker 1: WHOA, wait, No, I remember that, yeah or something? I do remember that. 00:02:14 Speaker 7: I think about it all the time. 00:02:15 Speaker 4: I remember. 00:02:16 Speaker 6: I don't know why, like it just like it just stuck with me though. It was like a really eerie and. 00:02:20 Speaker 1: It wasn't Wasn't there Ryan Gosling episode? 00:02:23 Speaker 7: It was like four PM. You're like in a dark house. 00:02:27 Speaker 6: You know, you're eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich after school and you're watching Are You Afraid of the Dark by Yourself? Like that was that was America in like the nineties and early few thousands. 00:02:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was. Uh. Ryan Gosling was in the season five episode The Tale of Station one oh nine point one, which I am not familiar with. 00:02:50 Speaker 6: Speaking of Ryan Gosling, the team has said that this new movie that he's in is pretty good. 00:02:56 Speaker 4: Uh, the sci fi one. Yeah, I don't know. I can't really get into that because it's like the original the first movie that guy made. The Martian same author is like one of the most reddit books ever written. It's like he names his bass like bass Ninja, pirate Monkey or something like that. 00:03:12 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:03:13 Speaker 5: So I yeah, So I read the book for Project Till Mary. I thought it was a good book. I'm I'm definitely excited to see the movie. The books it's it's sort of like there's what was it say, Like he he's like the last person who has the chance to just save the world, and it's this mission, and it's like the stars are going out, so it's it is kind of like an environmental thing. 00:03:38 Speaker 1: But then he goes into outer space and he was it's this. 00:03:41 Speaker 4: Was it racism and the stars go down, and like. 00:03:43 Speaker 5: The whole thing is about like their relationship, like like figuring out how to like save the world basically to see if the aliens can figure out how to save everything. 00:03:52 Speaker 4: That's pretty cool. Are the stars going out because of racism? Because that's kind of what modern sci fi is usually about. 00:03:58 Speaker 3: M that's right, all. 00:03:59 Speaker 4: Right, that's oh yeah, thats you. We wouldn't want them to like avoid confronting systemic racism as the cause of all problems in the world. 00:04:06 Speaker 9: We have a I think noteworthy. It's noteworthy. Our first story has nothing to do with racism. 00:04:16 Speaker 1: Really, but it is sexism. 00:04:18 Speaker 3: Well, it depends how you look at it. 00:04:22 Speaker 1: Well that's what they claimed. That's what this person's supporters claimed. 00:04:26 Speaker 3: Well, let's get into it, Blake. What's the story? 00:04:28 Speaker 4: All right? Well, we have we're very interested in this one. If you're wondering why, despite having no women on here, we're going in a true crime direction, it's because there's a very direct involvement with another case. We're all very interested in the case we are talking about is Corey Richins. This is a true crime saga that's been unfolding in the state to our north, in Utah, and it's pretty fascinating. It's got all that stuff that will make a great podcast later. In fact, I assume it's already made several good podcasts. 00:05:01 Speaker 1: So it's huge in the podcast. 00:05:03 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm absolutely massive in the you know, the two X chromosome podcast world because Corey Richins. She is a mom, I believe, a Mormon mom in Utah, and years ago, I think, like in twenty twenty two, her husband or forties abruptly died and she wrote a children's book about the death and you know about oh, you know, overcoming this trauma with her children. She got interviews in the press, she was interviewed by an NPR station like this was not even a throwaway. This was people saw this story, people read this book. And then mere weeks after the book, yeah, are you with me? That's the book there. And then mere weeks after this book came out, the police came forward. They'd been investigating it for a year and they say Corey actually murdered her husband, she poisoned him. Apparently she was deep in debt. She piled up a lot of debts, and she thought if she murdered her husband, who was from a quite wealthy family, that she would inherit his estate. She also took out a lot of life insurance policies on him, and uh so she murdered him to get access to that and pay off her debts. And thankfully that failed. She finally went to trial. It took three years to go to trial, and after about three hours, I believe a jury was able to convict her. And I think, Jack, you're probably chomping at the bit to reveal why this is of particular interest one of us. 00:06:27 Speaker 5: Let's let's not do that yet. Let's let's walk through the story first. Okay, all right, before because that takes it in a different direction. All right, okay, But but she so a couple of things I just want to add, so I'm just kind of pulling this up. She she the family was Mormon, the family she married into was Mormon, but they claimed her defense claimed at trial that she herself was not that and. 00:06:51 Speaker 4: That is that is that important thing, like our Mormon tyler tell me our Mormon wives like allowed to kill their husbands, so her not being Mormon. 00:06:58 Speaker 6: So this is secret lies of non Mormon wives, is what you're saying, secret wives of non Mormon wise, secret lives. 00:07:03 Speaker 4: What is the Mormon Church's position on spousal murder? 00:07:07 Speaker 7: It's pretty strong. 00:07:08 Speaker 4: You should do it. 00:07:13 Speaker 5: So yeah, and then and and the other thing I want to add is that she also she had an affair which was was a big part of this. I think it was like the handyman and he actually testified at the trial about, you know, about the affair, and they're sort of like, she had this real estate firm, like a like a house flipping kind of deal, and that's where they had the affair. But then also the husband from this wealthier family had a construction firm that was very successful, and what came out was that she had been stealing money from his construction firm to try to shore up her company because of course, you know, she's got to be girl boss and that you know, eventually it was caught. And when it was caught, he didn't leave her. The husband eric that he instead, you know, sort of did what he could to get the money back, wrote around and that then he wrote her out of the will, so he like like wrote her out of this trust that they had a bunch of things in. So that's what prompted her to then take this next level of taking out these life interurals well instead of and then making herself the beneficiary. But I just want to add that that she forged his signature, and that came out at court as well, that she forged his signature and uh basically committed identity fraud of her own spouse. 00:08:37 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, instead of just us droning on about it, we actually our team did find several clips of Corey Richins on the book tour circuit. Uh, just like shamelessly, I guess we got to take a look at this. Let's do clip one. 00:08:52 Speaker 10: You know, we kind of my kids and I kind of wrote this book on the different emotions and grieving processes that we've experienced last year, and you know, hoping that it can kind of help other kids. I'm new to all of this, so kind of doing all you know, research and reading books and things to try and understand you know, not only how to grieve as a widow, as a wife, but also you know, with my kids, how to help them, how to help them understand what just happened. And the three c's is how I has visualized it, and it's connection, continuity, and care. Making sure connection is the one major one. And making sure that their spirit is always alive in your home, you know, and memories are always brought up, and doing things that your loved ones love to do, whether it's riding bikes or their favorite dinner, and just constantly you know, talking about them, explaining to my kids, just because he's not present here with us physically, that doesn't mean his presence isn't here with us. He's you know, here for birthdays and he's here for Christmas and you know, and it's just comforting to them to know, oh that, you know, they're not living this life alone. 00:10:02 Speaker 4: So do you guys, Convict just off that pretty much? 00:10:06 Speaker 7: Yeah? 00:10:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, did something did that? I'm trying to actually think in my head, did something seem off there? Or do I just think something seems off because I know what came out later? 00:10:16 Speaker 7: Yeah, I just don't. I don't understand how you think you get away with something like that. Like, so it's so crazy. 00:10:23 Speaker 4: Is she? 00:10:24 Speaker 5: I definitely went down the rabbit hole on this one. A couple of nights ago, and she what she was doing was she, I guess her husband would make these trips in Mexico, and I think it was like a hunting trip in different things. 00:10:37 Speaker 1: And she was trying to. 00:10:39 Speaker 5: Say that he had picked up a like a like a drug habit while he was down in Mexico. And so the way she was trying to get away with it was to say, oh, he had this drug habit, but actually he you know, it got the better of him. It turned into an addiction, and then he accidentally overdosed. And so she was trying to say that it was an accident. And my gosh, because they started pulling up her like Google searches, just regular Google search, like not even anything hidden yet. And I mean she had been using Google to search. 00:11:17 Speaker 3: All this stuff. 00:11:20 Speaker 9: When you read food labels today, it's obvious we've over complicated nutrition, chemical names. You can't pronounce ingredients that sound like they belong in a lab instead of a kitchen. Here's the simple truth. Plants have their own nutrition. They're called phyto nutrients, and your body knows exactly what to do with them. That's what drew me to bounds of nature. They take fruits and vegetables and put them through a special vacuum cold process to stabilize that phyto nutrition. Nothing weird, nothing artificial. Their whole health system gives you fruits and veggies, plus fiber and spice forty seven whole food ingredients. I take it every day because it's simple and it works with my routine. If you want to make nutrition simple again and fight the good fight, go to Balance of nature dot com to subscribe and save today. Join hundreds of thousands of customers in one simple routine that's changing their lives for the better. 00:12:17 Speaker 3: Oh that that's crazy. 00:12:18 Speaker 9: She tried to poison him with a with a sandwich a few weeks before and it failed, and so this was her second. 00:12:25 Speaker 3: She did it twice. 00:12:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, she tried once and. 00:12:30 Speaker 5: From she gets the fentanyl from her housekeeper and she called it the Michael Jackson drugs. And she told the housekeeper who also testified against her. 00:12:40 Speaker 3: She's like, I was like look that. 00:12:42 Speaker 5: She was like, I didn't know that I was get you know, getting this for murder. I thought it was getting for her. And she tried it the first time with this like sandwich, this bagel sandwich, and I guess he got sick, he got a rash and he you know, had a very strong. 00:12:57 Speaker 1: Reaction but didn't die. 00:12:59 Speaker 5: And detectives later found that he told, like his sister, that he thought his wife was trying to kill him, and they brought that up that he had actually suspected that. So you know, maybe that should be one of the questions here is that, you know, if you think your wife is trying to kill you, are you really going to continue accepting food from her? 00:13:20 Speaker 1: Because unfortunately that I. 00:13:22 Speaker 5: Don't even laugh, but it's it's because it's disgusting that he continued to so that she then got more drugs put it in a Moscow mule, and that was the one that you know, you know. 00:13:35 Speaker 9: It's like more concerning than anything about this story is the fact that like the housekeeper, who I'm assuming is Hispanic, just was like, yeah, I can of course get fentanyl like what like and you know, little Maria over there that doesn't speak a word of English. 00:13:50 Speaker 6: You can't get a drink at the bar, but you can apparently find fence it all pretty quickly. That's that's an interesting that's an interesting factoid in Utah. 00:14:03 Speaker 9: Yeah, is this so what's going on with the scout, so she's cheating on him. She did identity theft, and it didn't take long for the jury to like come back with the ruling. Right, it was like pretty immediate three hours the capital case. 00:14:18 Speaker 4: Three hours after not And so this is, you know, kind of it gets at since we'll be talking a lot about the Utah court system, the way some of these things can really drag out. So the death occurred in twenty two, she publishes her book in twenty three. She gets indicted around then as well. It takes three years for this case to actually go to trial. Once it's actually on trial, the defense does not actually offer it calls, no witnesses. They rest immediately, so there's only the prosecution case defense just instant rests and then a few hours of deliberation and the verdict is delivered. And I'll admit I find myself wondering, did they really need three years to get to this point? 00:15:02 Speaker 10: No? 00:15:02 Speaker 4: And I kind of suspect no, And that gets out as we know why a lot of people get really frustrated with our legal system. I don't think three year murder trial processes were a common thing that we had one hundred years ago. 00:15:17 Speaker 7: No, I totally agree. 00:15:19 Speaker 4: But on the other hand, I do find myself impressed when you lay out all the evidence the way they're getting. Oh well, the housekeeper said this, and actually we know everything her husband was telling people and why he thought he was getting sick, and all of her web searches. I am hevy, did he did he suspect well? As as Tyler said, I think he must not have suspected too much, or he probably would have avoided continuing to consume things unless he had a death wish too. I mean, imagine that he's married to a wife and keeps trying to. 00:15:48 Speaker 5: Effective said that he told his sister that he thought it was from his wife because I guess she made him the sandwich. So I mean there had to be some level of that, you know what. 00:15:59 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe like did he think maybe his wife just oops a daisy drugged him, like maybe she maybe he thought she had a drug problem. 00:16:06 Speaker 5: Maybe there was a really weird So I'll just say this that I saw a video after this where I guess it was from the day of his uh celebration of life. 00:16:21 Speaker 1: Where and they have three little boys. 00:16:23 Speaker 5: I don't know if we said that, but they have three little boys at home where it's the wife, the widow at this point, the murderous and a bunch of his friends and they're like shotgunning beers in the kitchen and the kids are around and the you know, there just doesn't seem to be any you know, remorse, certainly no remorse on her part, but also just it seems like it was a very party atmosphere kind of thing. It seems that drinking was something that was extremely prevalent in the household. And so you know, to say that, oh, maybe she's trying to kill me, I mean, I don't know, I don't know. It's it's it's just a little too you know, a little too on the nose, I guess. But at the same time, I don't know. If we have that video, it's it's just absolutely wild, and I would like, I know, we have a little bit, maybe we can, guys, what are you gonna do? I'd love to play the bodycam because we have footage of this. 00:17:22 Speaker 1: We're gonna play the whole thing. 00:17:23 Speaker 5: We have like two minutes of it, but we can leave the MIC's open maybe and just comment because we have the body cam of the police arriving and we now know in retrospect that she's, you know, acting for the cameras. 00:17:36 Speaker 1: And I think this is just just very very interesting. What do you say? It's a clip six, he said to. 00:17:44 Speaker 4: Aser, And I never. 00:17:51 Speaker 8: Handling sugar is come out. 00:18:05 Speaker 2: Today? 00:18:06 Speaker 8: What's your first name? 00:18:07 Speaker 7: What's your first name? Yeah, let's let me talk. 00:18:12 Speaker 2: Let's let them do their work in there. 00:18:15 Speaker 9: That's what happened today. 00:18:20 Speaker 8: He was just fine. 00:18:21 Speaker 7: When when you say we were fine? What what? 00:18:26 Speaker 8: What time did you see him? 00:18:29 Speaker 7: When he was alert? 00:18:31 Speaker 10: We had a dream together and then to celebrate something at work tomorrow. Okay, we would just bet. 00:18:40 Speaker 2: I would have bet my kids you would have been bed. 00:18:44 Speaker 10: What time did you guys go to bed? 00:18:47 Speaker 8: Nine? 00:18:48 Speaker 9: Thirty nine? 00:18:50 Speaker 4: Okay, thirty five? 00:18:52 Speaker 7: And then what what? 00:18:53 Speaker 8: What alerted you to him today? 00:18:55 Speaker 7: Right now? 00:18:56 Speaker 9: What? 00:18:57 Speaker 8: I just fulled up. I always put I sleeps. 00:19:01 Speaker 4: Wake up, and I go back in my own bed. 00:19:03 Speaker 2: And I just crawled over. 00:19:05 Speaker 4: On his side. 00:19:08 Speaker 7: And he was laying in bed. 00:19:12 Speaker 4: On his stock on the pad. 00:19:16 Speaker 9: Okay, and he was on you said, he was on his back. 00:19:21 Speaker 10: Okay, where are your children now? 00:19:26 Speaker 5: Sleep? 00:19:27 Speaker 7: And that ramp to her awake with the air to the door. 00:19:33 Speaker 5: Yes, it's creepy, that's what I mean, and you hear the police officer, he's professional, he's asking questions. 00:19:41 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he's dealing with something horrible. 00:19:43 Speaker 9: But so she said that they had a drink the night before and then he didn't wake up, and that drink was the one she poisoned. 00:19:50 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:19:51 Speaker 5: Yes, And she also at one point in the trial they introduced a journal, so I guess she was too, did journaling and this was all are written in the journal, that we had had a drink tonight. I guess you wrote the journal after they had the drinks and then and then we went to bed, so you know, thinking that, and then it's the next day that they I guess you know, later that night where they where they have this scene. 00:20:17 Speaker 1: So, I mean, it's it's just the fact of the matter is. 00:20:21 Speaker 5: And here's the reason this case matters, I guess because there's so much evidence of guilt, not only the Google searches, but also there were there was a letter that she wrote from jail. 00:20:35 Speaker 1: Blake, did you see this part? I did letter she wrote from jail. 00:20:39 Speaker 4: There's like so many weird layers to this. It's like this entire case was invented to be a podcast for like Daisy to listen. 00:20:44 Speaker 5: Yeah, literally, So she wrote a letter from jail like to her mother, and I think her mother has actually retained counsel now because this is just so ridiculous, where she was instructing her mother on what to say to police or you know, and and to officials if they ever respond, you know, if they ever came up to her, and the mother apparently like went along with it, like it's it's it's it's it's the craziest thing that you cannot get away with crime and then leave all this evidence of your crime laying around for prosecutors to find. 00:21:21 Speaker 1: And that's the keyar is. 00:21:23 Speaker 4: That we're very unlucky. We're genuinely very lucky. 00:21:26 Speaker 5: That like Belvior is disgusting and evil and like it makes you lose your right to live honestly, like your right to exist. 00:21:33 Speaker 1: I wait, we should probably we should. 00:21:37 Speaker 5: Probably this is something we should mention, is, oh do we found do we have that video? 00:21:42 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:21:43 Speaker 5: So I want to I want to hit this video. But there was like no defense, like they didn't even put up any defense. We'll talk more about that in a second, but there was like they when you get to the point in the trial usually, so you have the you have the prosecution side, then you have the defense side. Then the prosecution rests. Then the defense goes and kind of presents their counter case and they call some witnesses is and they do what they can to present their you know, walk you through their version of events. 00:22:05 Speaker 1: Their defense never even did that. 00:22:06 Speaker 5: They just said, no witnesses and we're not presenting a defense, and uh, yeah, yeah, we mentioned that. 00:22:12 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I do think you did. 00:22:14 Speaker 5: And they said, they said, yeah, prosecution didn't make their case, so we're good to go. 00:22:20 Speaker 9: Before he ever stepped behind a microphone, Charlie understood something important. Leadership begins with learning. He didn't chase a diploma or a title. He chased truth. Through Hillsdale College's free online courses. He studied the great works of the Classics, the principles of the American Founding, and the life changing truths of the Bible. 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This is what I was just talking about, Rod Cam. 00:23:31 Speaker 4: I'm getting that free true boys come back in the corner. 00:23:35 Speaker 5: There we go, Richard, Richard, Richard yep. 00:23:44 Speaker 7: For Richard. 00:23:46 Speaker 5: Look war. 00:23:59 Speaker 2: You understand the Warrior? 00:24:03 Speaker 3: What are we watching there? 00:24:05 Speaker 10: So? 00:24:05 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I don't drink personally, So I like, I don't know what like Normy cult, Like I don't understand Norman. 00:24:13 Speaker 1: Culture at all, but like. 00:24:17 Speaker 5: Take the case out of it even regardless of you know, what the context is here. I just think that kind of behavior around children is a. 00:24:23 Speaker 1: Little bit, a little bit, a little bit off, like I don't think that's appropriate around kids. 00:24:26 Speaker 5: I really don't like, like you're drinking a beer around a kid and you're in a cup or a bottle or something like. That's one thing, But this, like, yeah, binging binge drinking in front of children. 00:24:42 Speaker 3: Is this whole story is crime? 00:24:45 Speaker 1: Binge drinking in front of children is not okay? 00:24:46 Speaker 4: No, No, the thought No. Ultimately, the reason we have to talk about this is because she was having an affair in addition to all her other reasons for this crime, so it is quite literally a thought crime. 00:24:55 Speaker 5: Is the guy she's having an affair with in in the in that video. 00:24:59 Speaker 4: That I don't no that. I don't know what were you gonna say, Tom, he's the handyman. 00:25:02 Speaker 10: No. 00:25:02 Speaker 6: I think you bring up a good point, Jack, is that the idea of I. 00:25:07 Speaker 7: Think that American culture in general was. 00:25:09 Speaker 3: Far more. 00:25:12 Speaker 7: Covert. 00:25:13 Speaker 6: I guess in family settings of like not like I've noticed this especially in like group settings, is that you'll have parties or like you know, type like block party type things, and they'll have like kind of a table that just has a bunch of alcohol at it. And I feel like that isn't the way that things used to operate. 00:25:31 Speaker 7: I feel like like. 00:25:32 Speaker 6: Early, earlier in American culture, even when we were growing up, it was you never saw anything like that. It was like, oh, you know, of course a dad or our mom would be you might have have a beer or something, but they would pour into a cup. And like that was the concept of the red solo cups. It's like you would pour it and like you would, you'd drink it and just kind of be on your own, not just kind of like out there you know, hard liquor things like that. Especially with all the different types of of you know, alcohol and and different things that are out there now, it's just I think there's just like a looseness around that. And then you add on top of that again just weed culture. And I think this is part of the thing, you know, that we talked about with with weed cultures, that it just is so open. It's where people are kind of like they make it their persona and it's a big deal to their life and and drinking to a certain extent, like people kind of feel that way too. 00:26:28 Speaker 7: And I just don't think that that. 00:26:29 Speaker 6: I think that's escalated dramatically over the last number of years, and it's it's not healthy but it's particularly well. 00:26:35 Speaker 1: You know why that is. It's it's the extended adolescence. 00:26:38 Speaker 5: It's because you have so many, you know, millennials, outer millennials are having kids now, but they haven't matured themselves to the point where they assume that, you know. 00:26:50 Speaker 1: The responsibilities of adulthood. 00:26:52 Speaker 5: And they were like, oh, I'm friends with my kids, and I want to be the cool dad and the cool mom, and you know, like those are gonna be the ones that other kids to have alcohol. A lot of them have access to alcohol and. 00:27:03 Speaker 1: All the rest. 00:27:04 Speaker 5: And it's this extended adolescence that's killing everybody. I think it's I think it's leading to a lot of problems. I think it's horrible. I think it's it's killing our country. And it's something that I see with so many, you know, so many guys thirties and forties right now where they're still just running around acting like children all the time. And as far as that video, I'm looking at the picture of the guy, So the guy who testified against her does kind of look like one of the guys in the video because he's got a red beard. He's thinner now than the one in the video. So I can't tell for sure if that's. 00:27:36 Speaker 9: Him drinking makes you fat because he's got that issue drink. I want to get to I want to get this Sava. That's what I want to get to. Because Sesar Shava is super based on immigration. 00:27:47 Speaker 4: Well, we don't want to be bragging about that. We can't be. I mean, hold on, we have. 00:27:52 Speaker 3: I have mixed opinions about Sesar Javez. 00:27:54 Speaker 4: Obviously, before we get to that, we have to have plot twist Judo. 00:28:00 Speaker 3: No, no, no. 00:28:01 Speaker 9: I'm a fan of his immigration, anti illegal immigration, anti flooding the country with Hispanic illegals because he didn't want them to undercut the wages of the union workers. Now some of his other extracurriculars obviously, Blake take it away. 00:28:16 Speaker 4: I mean, hold on, we have to get the final Judo flip on this topic. 00:28:19 Speaker 9: Here, Okay, fine, Jack Jack, we have to we have to get. 00:28:25 Speaker 4: The final the final note of not in this case real. 00:28:29 Speaker 1: The reason that the. 00:28:32 Speaker 5: The case h it's home for a lot of us, not just because it was in Utah, but because of one so I mentioned the defense in this case which didn't exist. I mentioned how the evidence was completely stacked against this woman, Corey Richens and just feels so terrible for those children, by the way, have to. 00:28:52 Speaker 1: Grow up without really a mom and a dad. 00:28:54 Speaker 5: Now at this point, and the fact that the lawyer were the defense in this was Kathy Nester and is Kathey Hester, and kath Kathy Nester is also one of the lead state appointed defense attorneys for Tyler Robinson. And I'll just say this that Kathy Hester did not garner. 00:29:17 Speaker 1: A a strong. 00:29:21 Speaker 5: Reputation for herself when she h when she was in court during this and I think a lot of people have pointed that out, and it could be a something that we're going to preview pretty soon here. 00:29:36 Speaker 3: I'm actually glad you did that. That's fascinating. 00:29:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's the big thing. 00:29:41 Speaker 5: Uh So, what we're seeing here is potentially the stut Now it could be different, totally, totally could be different. 00:29:48 Speaker 1: You know. So this is the you know, the public defender. 00:29:51 Speaker 5: Utah is a small state, and you know the fact is that you know, when you have these these capital cases, you know, there's only so many people that are available to be able to handle one. 00:30:00 Speaker 1: Of these cases. 00:30:01 Speaker 5: And Kathy Nester happens to be the same one in these two extremely high profile cases, one of which obviously we don't have any connection to, but one of which we all have this connection to. And so just to understand that this is what we're going to see, so the same, you know, not to go into all of the the same type of delayed tactics that we've seen so far, trying to get rid of the prosecutor, trying to do all this other stuff rather than actually discuss the evidence, trying to get cameras out of the courtroom, try to block evidence or discussions of evidence in the courtroom. That's all coming from the same Kathy Nestor who ran the defense for for Re Ridgins. 00:30:41 Speaker 4: Alrighty, so now we can talk about how you think Caesar Chavez is really based Andrew, which you got to you got to be based And because. 00:30:53 Speaker 3: I'm not, I'm just saying he was. 00:30:57 Speaker 9: I think it's a I get a crack up every time the Left lifts up this guy like he was some civil rights icon and then you. 00:31:06 Speaker 3: Find out, oh, he was beating the crap out of. 00:31:08 Speaker 9: Illegal immigrants so that they would get the hell out of America's Andrew Andrew. 00:31:12 Speaker 4: We we got to pause ourselves here. We should not We don't need to highlight the reasons that Caesar Chavez is based if we can highlight the reasons that Caesar Chavez, left wing hero is a rapist, which is what they use is today. But for those who have not seen it, we should explain what we're getting that here. Then it's been coming out over the last one you're talking about. But the New York Times has a mammoth story this morning. Caesar Chavez, civil rights icon, is accused of abusing girls four years. This feels like a black I feel like. 00:31:43 Speaker 5: We got this is the same Caesar Chavez that, like Barack Obama, has been constantly holding up that like every single Democrat, like major Democrat, talks about for all for all these years. 00:31:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, or the same Caesar Chavez that has a holiday here in Phoenix. Government offices will be closed on March thirty first for Jabez Day. Some schools we'll get a day off. Tucson schools will have a day off. Actually I have no idea if that's a weekend date or not. It is a Tuesday. Yeah, they'll be closed in Tucson to honor this guy. And I mean we've got it right here in the New York Times, The New York Times hasn't covered extensive evidence to support accusations from a whole bunch of women, and this is that Caesar Chavez was reportedly grooming and abusing girls as young as age twelve. The story opens with a very lurid account the man Caesar Chavez was one of the most revered figures in the Latino civil rights movement. He was forty five. She Anna Marguilla was thirteen. She says she was summoned for sexual encounters with him dozens of times over the next four years. And yeah, wait. 00:32:57 Speaker 3: When she turns eighteen, he's stopped. 00:33:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, it's like it's like ascended Leonardo DiCaprio syndrome. Well hold on, yeah, oh yeah, Actually I feel I feel unsata. I'm fair saying that because they are a caprio. 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We have Caesar Chavez Plaza, Downtown Phoenix Elementary School, Caesar Shaves Community School, Caesarshavez Elementary School, Caesarshavez Building on the University of Arizona Campus, Tucson, Caesar Chavez Boulevard, a ceremonial street sign in South Phoenix, Caesarshaves Cultural Center in Luis, Caesar Chavez Drive in El miraj Hardin, Cesar Chavez in Tucson, and a bunch of others, and I mean infinity of those. In California, I think there's a very major street they named after Caesar Javez in Los Angeles. I know there's been serious push in the past to have Caesar Javaz make it a literal national holiday so that they can have the Latino holiday in addition to MLK days. 00:35:25 Speaker 9: Well, so that's what I think is driving a lot of this is I think there's like a need because you had like MLK for the black community, like a bunch of mL black you know, heroes. There's not a ton of Hispanic ones, and so I think that's like the drive here is actually just to appoint somebody from this Hispanic community and is listen, I can say this without being racist because I'm quarter Mexican. Okay, wait, I would say, like, what do you mean we have heroes from the Hispatic community. 00:35:55 Speaker 1: Andrew, you're sitting right. 00:35:56 Speaker 4: There, Yeah, Andrew, how much do you look up to Caesars show? Like growing up, did you write essays for school about how you wanted. 00:36:05 Speaker 9: His immigration hardline position Although I don't advocate for beating up illegals, was very based and that's all I'm gonna say, no, no, no beating up illegals unless they attack cobs. 00:36:20 Speaker 3: But he did not want them. 00:36:22 Speaker 9: And I always find that that hypocritical position with the modern left, that's like open borders to just be so laughable. Every time they celebrate Caesar Shavz and lift him up. I'm always like, you know, he just like beat the crap out of illegals, right, he didn't want them lowering the wages for America. And you kind of think about this with Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders used to be really tough on the border and that kind of changed. But we see that from Chuck Schumer, Hillary Clinton like Normy's. So Caesar Shavez is a great reminder of the hypocrisy of the modern Democrat Party. 00:36:52 Speaker 3: So for that he's useful. 00:36:55 Speaker 5: So Blake, can you can you walk us through because we before we just laugh at the left. Can you walk us through a little bit of just how is it that this story broke? I mean, this is obviously something for a long time ago. What's the you know, what's the story of the story here? 00:37:09 Speaker 4: Well, so I think i'd have to read it because I know this is bubbling up in a few places. But the New York Times story dropped this morning. But I know people were already complaining about him a few days ago. So I think what's really been going on is there have been women who have been starting to talk more, and so I think the word was getting around that a lot was gonna drop, and the New York Times was pretty disciplined about it. They they cite two women, miss Margua and another woman, Deborah Rojas, and they're talking about getting abused in the seventies when he was in his forties and they were teenagers. An investigation by The New York Times has un covered extensive evidence for their stuff. I believe they literally say, they say somewhere in this article how many it was, But it's like a very large number, And it just seems like a lot of people you knew about it, and like they just started talking about it. I think honestly because of the ramping up in efforts to officially memorialize Javez, that seems to have driven a lot of them to finally say something. 00:38:15 Speaker 1: And she's wow, So I'm looking at it right now. 00:38:18 Speaker 5: It says one of them actually was dollar a Suerta and she was like his that was like his public partner in United farm Workers in UfW. So I mean, this is not someone who is just sort of a random, you know, you know, random person that this is exactly, you know, like his public co founder of. 00:38:42 Speaker 1: UfW. 00:38:43 Speaker 5: She's ninety six, and she's saying, yeah, she is publicly stating that he raped her multiple times in the nineteen sixties, claims that both resulted in pregnancies. She kept them secret cheerings for the children to be raised by under other families, and she claimed that they were forced acts. Then there's another there's other women who came out and said that the abuse began around age twelve or thirteen and included a rape at age fifteen in the nineteen seventies. So yeah, it's it's to your point that these women are now because it's been so many years later that you know, some of them. I think, like for Dollar Swerta, that she's you know, she's ninety six. She's probably thinking that probably doesn't have that much time left and wanted to, you know, wanted to come public with this. 00:39:31 Speaker 1: But to to really correct the record. 00:39:34 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's like sold the stars, all the left wing stars have fallen. First it was Harvey Milk. Now it's Caesar Chavez. I mean, ye know, he was in his forties, by the way, groomed and repeatedly molested Anna Maguilla Murguagulla. I can't even say it, starting at age thirteen, continued seventeen and molested then raped Deborah Rojas groped at twelve, raped at fifteen while a virgin at UfW sites. 00:40:03 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 00:40:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, like literally like he's doing one of his marches, like I guess he would have. He had a week long march across California and he was having this fifteen year old stay in his motel room during the march, like he just has his has his side chicks. They're literally underage teenagers. Even at the time, like often you know, the excuse you'll always get, oh it was an earlier time, but like, no, everyone would have think this was incredibly disturbing. Even in the seventies when this was taking place, and it seems okay. Yeah, New York Times they interviewed more than sixty people, including his top aides, to get to the bottom of this story. 00:40:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, this this is. 00:40:42 Speaker 9: A very widely corroborated story over sixty plus interviews, union documents, photos prompted immediate cancelation of Chaves Day events and honors. So the dude's fallen from You know. What's interesting though, is like once you get to the the a level within the Democrat sort of progressive hierarchy of heroes, even allegations of sexual misconduct are not necessarily enough to bring you down, right. So like MLK, there's allegations that he raped women and the FBI wiretapped him. He was he had a different woman in every city he would go to for all these marches. He had women in Vegas he had women in la he had women in Boston, women in Florida, and at least on one occasion, right, he the allegation was a rape allegation, I believe forced sexual assault. 00:41:36 Speaker 1: I think it was that he was in the room. 00:41:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, the claim is the claim from the FBI. He wrote it's an FBI rite up because they were recording King and the claim was that he was in a room with a bunch of pastors and some women and that one of the pastors like sexually assaults a woman in the room, and King is like watching and laughing. That's such an odd description that I do wonder what literally would have been happening. Supposedly this stuff still could be released. They keep delaying the release of it, but I don't know. I'm I'm in favor of transparency on public figures, and but man, we really dodged a bullet on this one. I'm looking now. I remember this story from a decade ago. There was an NPR story Caesar Chavez the next Catholic saint. I'm really glad they didn't go down that go down that route sign. 00:42:28 Speaker 3: Oh that's an interesting question. 00:42:29 Speaker 9: Okay, so what if they make a saint out of Caesar Chavez, right, but then they find out like a few years later that he was actually a rapist in. 00:42:39 Speaker 3: A pedophile too. 00:42:40 Speaker 9: What happens then, can you like de sanctify or does the church never get it wrong? 00:42:45 Speaker 4: I don't really think you can undo it like it's supposed to be. 00:42:48 Speaker 1: So andrew that that like that process. 00:42:53 Speaker 5: So like take a look at Fulton Sheen right now, So Fulton Sheen is someone who's up for sainthood even though he passed away gosh, fifty sixty years ago. That that is all stuff that would come out during the canonization process. 00:43:08 Speaker 9: These women hadn't have come out with it it. 00:43:11 Speaker 5: No, I'm not, but I'm saying that it is not something that is quick, is what I'm trying to say. For the vast majority. For the vast majority of people, I'm Carlo Acutis. You know some people, it has moved jump all the second obviously has moved a little faster. But for the vast majority of people who become canonized, it is an extremely laborious process where they do investigate all sorts of things like this or whether or not they were associated with anything. 00:43:39 Speaker 4: I'm just saying what they know, they really dialed that back. That was a note that was a criticism of I believe John Paul the Second he got They used to have a position called, I think literally the Devil's advocate, and he would argue against the sainthood of somebody for that reason. 00:43:53 Speaker 1: But that's that, that's part of the process. 00:43:55 Speaker 4: But I believe John Paul the Second got rid of it, and so we have a lot more saints getting now, and like that's why, that's one reason you now the one like the go to Japan and he'll just have like, here's forty new saints, because like they've streamlined the process, and like Chess became a. 00:44:13 Speaker 5: Change, France has changed a lot, all right, Francis changed a lot, to say the least. But one of the reasons that the traditional process is what I'm speaking of, is so laborious. 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I'm just saying that would be. 00:46:00 Speaker 3: Has it ever happened before? 00:46:02 Speaker 4: There have sort of been saints where they there have been saints where they have kind of stopped encouraging the celebration of them. And like as an example, there used to be medieval saints who would be child saints and the reason they were a saint was this is awkward to say, but this I'm not making this up, is they were children who were allegedly abducted and murdered by Jews. And so there those were saints that they had in the Middle Ages. Unfortunately, there was a lot of anti Semitism in the past and tours over time. I think Martin of Tours is like that. There's definitely, uh. I think there was one from the UK. I think like in Lincoln, Yeah, little Saint Hugh of Lincoln that was from the twelve hundred. So, like you know, alleged martyrs where today we would say they were probably not martyred for their faith, and I think if you wanted to take an edge case, you could say, we could still say they're a saint, because a saint really is just anyone who's in heaven and an innocent child who dies, and we have every reason to believe they were innocent. And you know, pious, no, no it's not. 00:47:05 Speaker 1: It's not Martin of Tours, I had that Wrong's Martin. 00:47:07 Speaker 4: The Saint Hugh of Lincoln is definitely one. But there's a lot of these, and so like you could still say there, you know, they're still presumably a saint. There is no reason to believe that they would be damned, but they're probably not. We probably don't want to memorialize them because the reason for them being memorialized as a martyr was mistaken. But we should be honest, like it is a real concern. There was I forget his name. There was kind of a. 00:47:31 Speaker 1: Dr Simon of Trent I was totally There was a. 00:47:34 Speaker 4: Mexican founder of a religious order I think was it Legionaries of Christ. I think where the founder of that group. After he died, there was a lot of agitation, oh, he should be a saint, And then it also quickly came out that he had like a mistress of some kind, and I believe he was a priest. Uh And so that is a reason to be careful with these things. That is why we are very lucky they did not rush down the Caesar Shavez route or the root for the sainthood for a lot of other people. And as for the rest, we put our trust in the Holy Spirit, I suppose. 00:48:06 Speaker 5: Uh So, according to Groc, According to Groc that the Catholic Church has never formally decanonized a saint. 00:48:14 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I haven't heard it, but. 00:48:17 Speaker 3: The Russian Orthodox Church has though. 00:48:19 Speaker 1: And then it mentions I could check. I don't know. 00:48:22 Speaker 5: I looked it up and it says that, yeah, it's talking about how different feast days and different individuals have been you know, downgraded, and sort of the celebration of that saint has been downgraded. But you know, and it's it's it, and in those cases it's it's really more to do to things like you know, not being able to verify certain things about their life, like Saint Valentine is a classic example of this, where we all know Valentine's Day, Saint Valentine's Day, but you know details of the actual Valentine's life are very very spotty. It's it's just not very well documented the way that the Church would normally like for a saint. So obviously we all celebrate Saint Valentine's Day, you know, sort of in in the culture, but it's not really emphasized in the church. 00:49:13 Speaker 3: So yeah, be careful who you canonize. Catholics. 00:49:16 Speaker 4: Yeah, careful, I mean, but Wills we should remind everyone remember yes we can. The Obama line, well, if you're alling, you don't, but anyone who's my age or older, they remember, yes we can. That is from Caesar Shava, that kind of. 00:49:32 Speaker 5: And oh wait, no, I was I was a little bit right, by the way, because Saint Martin of Tours was considered for removal of his feast day but ultimately did remain as his uh maintain his fees. So I knew there was something about Martin Tours, but he wasn't a child saying. 00:49:46 Speaker 4: But I don't know. So okay, maybe there's whether they can get rid of saint? Can the left get rid of a saint? Well, they definitely tear down people while alive. Actually, can we get yeah, the left can get rid of saints? 00:49:55 Speaker 7: Here here's the easier thing. 00:49:56 Speaker 6: Can we get his name peeled off of elementary school? 00:50:00 Speaker 8: Publicize? 00:50:00 Speaker 4: We should we should demand that people, we should ask we're literally in the Phoenix. We should just demand that people go into the next city council meeting to demand this. 00:50:06 Speaker 7: Yeah, this should be easy. 00:50:08 Speaker 3: Wait, so I was doing this on turning new causes is sure love it? 00:50:13 Speaker 1: Like what was uh blake? Who was the. 00:50:17 Speaker 5: Wasn't there a whole like Ivy League thing where they were trying to it was, Oh, they were trying to get rid of Columbus's name from different things, and there was like that whole Uh, we have to remove the name Columbus from everything, and then you know, anyone with a slaveholder, So we had to get rid of like anything that says called you know named its Tumul Jackson or Robert E. 00:50:34 Speaker 1: Lee. 00:50:35 Speaker 5: But then I was pointing out that that Yale Yale University is named for Elihu Yale, who was himself a slave owner. 00:50:46 Speaker 1: So I was saying that anyone who has a Yale degree or. 00:50:50 Speaker 5: Like, I was looking up CNN reporters who had like Yale in their in their Twitter profiles and saying that, you know, how how dare because they were saying you benefited from slavery, right, so anyone who has a Yale degree benefited from slavery that if you want. 00:51:04 Speaker 4: I think, actually we have a commentor here Ray dev points out, and I think it's actually worth citing. I got what's going on? Is he no longer fits their narrative and like, why is this only coming out now? Come on? So I think this is actually sorry Andrew, I think this gets back to what you were trying to point out. So when Caesar Chavez was feeling the need of oh, we've got oppressed laborers in the US, and so we need more socialism or whatever for them. And also you know, their Hispanics, so we need another reason, right to like elevate new heroes in that way, then Caesar's shovez was useful to them. But as more people are aware of, oh, he also didn't like immigration, there were other ways where you could say he was not in step with modern lib narratives of open borders and so on. Okay, now we can chuck this guy as part of our great process of getting rid of everyone before the year twenty twenty. But I don't know that we want to race to pick up Caesar Shavez. The story looks pretty bad. 00:52:01 Speaker 9: I'm not picking them up, but if they pick them up, I'm gonna smack him for it, because I. 00:52:05 Speaker 1: Think you were kind of picking them up a little bit there. I think you were. I think you were considering it. 00:52:10 Speaker 5: No, definitely, not a little bit, but maybe maybe twenty five percent. 00:52:15 Speaker 3: Twenty yeah, maybe twenty five percent. I'm okay with that. I'm alright with that. 00:52:21 Speaker 4: Hey, we have ten you guys to go. 00:52:23 Speaker 3: I have a question for you. I have a question for you. 00:52:26 Speaker 9: If on X they included a down vote, would you support it? Would you give a thumbs up to a thumbs down? 00:52:34 Speaker 7: I think it's already been rolled out, isn't it. 00:52:36 Speaker 4: They teased it's what we're talking. 00:52:40 Speaker 1: I haven't hit it yet. 00:52:41 Speaker 4: I think my favorite take is like, we should have a dislike button, but it should be just like voting. It should be restricted to mail to property owning males and then their wives who have had children. Yep, didn't they. 00:52:55 Speaker 1: Get rid of the YouTube video? 00:52:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, about five years they got rid of dislikes. 00:53:01 Speaker 5: So the question but then like all the all the pepees went in and were like that stupid. So the Anon's made up there, made up like a script to be able to bring it back. 00:53:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's not the same. I mean, the reason they got rid of dislikes was actually that was like a great element of the backlash to peak woke was it started happening because you'd get these incredibly horrible film trailers, TV trailers, game trailers, and they or a really awful political ad and they would just get annihilated. Ninety to ten or ninety nine to one. That level of ratio, like it's the true ratio as opposed to the fake Twitter ratio of like comments to retweets or whatever people go for. And so I think it'd be good to have that, like you can just get a direct measure of how much people are liking it. But on admittedly on X like excess full of bots, so everything's gonna get boded really hard. 00:53:50 Speaker 7: Got to get boded. But here here's wait way. 00:53:53 Speaker 5: But but there's another potential up upgrade to this where that they're looking at where you can set and I like this region filters, So you could potentially set it up so that your tweet could only go to certain regions and that you could only interact with certain people from certain parts of. 00:54:12 Speaker 3: The world, so like America would be a region correct. Nice. 00:54:17 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's like goes by continent maybe or or you know, I don't know exactly how it's gonna happen yet, but. 00:54:26 Speaker 1: I'm all in. See here's here's my big thing. 00:54:28 Speaker 5: And I've said this public a few times because that's due with the payouts, because people are totally gaming the payouts system on X. What you should have to do is that if so, the payouts are not by impressions. A lot of people get this wrong. Payouts are by replies. Elon said this, everyone said this early on, but then I see people complaining and saying, oh, well, I got this many impressions. 00:54:47 Speaker 1: But it's not about that. It's about replies, and by the way, verified replies. 00:54:51 Speaker 5: So if you've just got like if you're just a slop merchant, that's just like you know, churning out the purveying of the slat paganda all day long, that you're not necessarily going to get that unless you get the verified replies. However, Comma, what I would say is that you should set it so that the companies that are advertising that that those ad dollars should only be able to go to regions that they want them to go to. So if you're you know, if you're an American based company, you want that you want those ad dollars going to American accounts that are reaching an American audience, right, Like, that's how basic advertising works. So is that the way that it works. Because if you've got an account that's on another part of the world, that's affecting people in another part of the world. China's got one point eight billion people, India's got one point eight billion, whatever it is that but that is just a waste of money then, so that pot of money should stay within the audience and the creators who are part. 00:55:53 Speaker 7: Of that audience. 00:55:57 Speaker 9: Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about y Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. 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I think you're gonna have these these scenarios too, where I mean, we've seen this where you know, certain content is targeted by people, so it's by bots, but also there's you know, meat puppetry that happens what they call meat puppetry online. 00:57:23 Speaker 7: Where someone will go to. So if you're targeting. 00:57:27 Speaker 6: Blake for example, a lot of people are what happens, they'll go to like a Telegram channel and they'll say, Blake just posted this, everyone goes dislike it, and that's that's a you know, there's that's a sometimes a meat puppetry type SCENARIOA. 00:57:40 Speaker 4: A lot a lot of the big streamers will do that. They'll just say like, oh, just posted this on X. Everyone go like it. 00:57:45 Speaker 6: Yeah, go like it or dislike somebody else's stuff. I think the problem on X is if it's I think it's actually I think it's actually a positive not to see everyone that likes something. I think it should be public who dislike likes it, so as long as interesting, so as long as so. I totally understand all the arguments for not being visible who likes it because that, you know, but I do think it should be public if you dislike it. 00:58:12 Speaker 7: Ooh. 00:58:13 Speaker 9: I do actually find that kind of interesting. When you post something spicy on X and only you get to see who liked it, and you're like, oh, some and so like that. It's like very telling, gives you a little lay of the land. 00:58:24 Speaker 6: But I think it's I think it's impactful, like if you do if they do do the dislike button, I think it's important to see who's dislike it because if you say something that's positive and people are just disliking it just for disliking its sake, to try to make you. 00:58:38 Speaker 4: Look bad, so like a bad political. 00:58:40 Speaker 7: Like so someone on the right. 00:58:41 Speaker 6: So let's say like this oftentimes will happen, right, is I'll post something that's super generic and then like a bunch of trolls will just you know, comment on my stuff about something that's totally like unrelated on my on my feet, has nothing to do with what I'm actually talking about. They probably agree with what I'm saying. Yeah, So if you have a dislike but this secret though, a bunch of those trolls will just dislike it to try to make you look bad, even though they actually might agree with it. But if it's public, then they have to live with that they disagree. 00:59:14 Speaker 4: I haven't had been on Facebook for six years at this point, and I don't really miss it. But I will say what I did like about Facebook when I was still on it is they had they were up to what like six different reacts you could have, like like dislike, kind of heart eyes react and like I feel this, I don't know. I'm kind of a sucker for like a wide range of emote reacts. Like if you've ever been in a if you've ever been in like a Slack group for work or whatever, You've got a million different emotes. Discord's got a million. I am like an emote response maximizer. So I think we should go all in on this. For X and X should have dozens, if not hundreds, perhaps thousands, millions of potential emote reacts. Maybe even have AI. You could ask the AI to generate a custom emote response. Using ROCK you could say, I can only react to this with an image of like a gigantic bald eagle, uh eating out the heart of Caesar Chavez, like, and then it just generates that for you as an EMO, and then you you post that and other people can react to the same way. 01:00:16 Speaker 5: Well that's I mean, you have like a that's like a sticker pack, like you go on the Telegram has sticker packs, and Signal has sticker packs like like that's that's kind of already used on social media, just not Twitter. 01:00:29 Speaker 4: I don't want stickers. I want AI generated art. I demand this. In fact, if Elon Musk doesn't do this, I am going to I'm gonna be slightly annoyed. And then probably forget I ever made this request. 01:00:44 Speaker 1: Amazing. 01:00:45 Speaker 9: Well, Jack is gonna be upset because we didn't get to his Val Kilmer thing. But Val Kilmer is being resurrected by Aari. 01:00:53 Speaker 5: Such a good story. It's no, we we nailed the we got the we got the Kathy or sorry Corey, Corey Richins, were we in with again? That's that's Tyler Robinson's defense. Where so just just putting that out for everybody, that potential potential preview of things to come. 01:01:10 Speaker 9: I dislike I'm putting the down vote the mal Kilmer coming up to a this was this was limited, It's limited. 01:01:19 Speaker 1: To just showers. 01:01:21 Speaker 3: What's that? 01:01:22 Speaker 1: Now? Her client was found not guilt. Excuse me? Her client was found guilty in three hours. 01:01:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, well well I'm I like, I will upvote that. 01:01:32 Speaker 9: But wait, valcomer, what we oh, Venezuela beat a Team America. 01:01:37 Speaker 3: That was the other topic we were going to get to. Well we don't. 01:01:39 Speaker 4: I think we're out of time on it. So you just have to go up or down President Trump truth after they won fifty first state or statehood something like that. 01:01:47 Speaker 1: What do you want? 01:01:49 Speaker 4: Oh, you're going vote, You're going thumbs down. Yeah, I think I can see the humor of it. But no, just to warn everyone, she's wanting to make a state out of countries that have thirty million people who elected a social less president. No, no, I don't want to get in twenty eight million people. Like we've seen the problems from the people who have moved from Venezuela to the US. Now imagine the twenty eight million diehards who are like, no, I'm not going to leave Venezuela for the US. No, no, they cannot come in. 01:02:18 Speaker 5: This is one of the reasons that Greenland is such a good idea because the population is so low. So yes is like, for example, as Cuba strategic territory. Obviously, but the populations too high would caused too many problems. Same with Canada, populations too high, too many migrants, caused too many problems. 01:02:33 Speaker 1: So vaclage. 01:02:34 Speaker 5: You know, there's certain things we could look at Greenland. On the other hand, one hundred percent statehood. 01:02:39 Speaker 4: Yeah. Also, Greenland's bigger, Like if we got Greenland, we'd be bigger than Canada. We'd be like approaching the size of Russia. 01:02:45 Speaker 7: I think there's a lot of reason to get it. 01:02:47 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's a lot of conservatives that are up in that part of the world that might move. 01:02:51 Speaker 4: Like, guys, have you seen a Mercader projection? Think about how huge we'd be on a Mercader projection. 01:02:55 Speaker 6: Yeah, Venezuela's way too. Can you imagine the illegal immigration into Venezuela. 01:03:00 Speaker 4: Illegal immigration into Venezuela, it would be I think it would be insane. 01:03:04 Speaker 7: Every cologne. 01:03:05 Speaker 9: I know Alaska and Hawaii kind of break this rule, but I do think you should have to be connected to the lower forty eight generally speaking, these Alaska, fine, whatever. 01:03:15 Speaker 4: I actually the exact opposite in that America's shape, the forty eight state shape is actually a very good shape. Like, it's very iconic looking. It's got the right amount of smooth and jagged edges and all of that. Like, it's a good shape. So like when we see those maps where if we added Alberta, America would look stupid in silhouette. If we added Alberta, we'd have this big dongle on the end of it. It would be awful. I would like, we really have to think about these things, guys. 01:03:44 Speaker 5: Yeah, Tyler, what about the will be already of Florida? What about the You know what about our plan for Arizona to get its. 01:03:51 Speaker 6: Beach ta see that little strip, see that that wouldn't add that much onto the map, So it really wouldn't change. You could actually just drop that Arizona. It goes if you went straight across the southern border of Arizona all the way to the water, you could pretty much get it straight straight across the water. So you really want to notice that much. 01:04:16 Speaker 5: It's and I actually think that border will have to extend all of the borders down. 01:04:23 Speaker 7: No, but it doesn't extend. 01:04:24 Speaker 6: The southern border of Arizona already is is flat all the way across that can go straight to water. It goes up just slightly to dodge the water. It's stupid because it makes no sense. Yeah, you're right, No, it makes you know that we were it makes no sense. You did you know that President Polk's original demand was for all of Baja almost like a few more states, and folks demand was all the way down to like pass like uh was it DURINGO. 01:04:51 Speaker 4: It was it was basically like you we have gotten like Chihuahua, Sonora, like those. 01:04:56 Speaker 7: Mexico City and then and then you get. 01:04:58 Speaker 5: All of. 01:05:00 Speaker 8: And Baja and all Baha and no, but then you would also get what's what's the place where Ted Cruise went on vacation that everyone got upset about. 01:05:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, but I don't want But Polk wanted the Yucatan. No, we don't need any of that nonsense. No, Polk like just wanted the desert and we should have got the Dosert. 01:05:19 Speaker 7: No, Polk wanted the Yucatan. 01:05:21 Speaker 4: But the Yukatan is is wanted the jungle. I don't want the jungle. 01:05:25 Speaker 7: He wanted the jungle. He had a little jungle feed. 01:05:27 Speaker 1: There's there's some interesting It's no, it's not just jungle though. That's the thing. 01:05:30 Speaker 5: There's this would totally derail this. But they've they've used like new light our sensors to you know, do some some like almost infrared style mapping of the jungle. And there's like all these ancient Mayan cities in there and stuff. 01:05:44 Speaker 4: Okay, here's the problem. If we absorbed the ancient Mayan temples, we would inherit the ancient Mayan curse, and that would curse the United States. 01:05:54 Speaker 9: That's why would inherit the modern lions that would vote against us, like Caesar Chavez. Yes, and there we are full circle. 01:06:06 Speaker 1: We've done it, folks. 01:06:07 Speaker 5: We always all right, Jack, take us home, ladies and gentlemen, as always go out there and commit more thought 01:06:13 Speaker 4: From For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com