THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 116 — What Is 'White Culture'? Eric Swalwell's Poetry? Thomas Massie, Friend or Foe?

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And by the way, Tyler Boyer is going to be joining us in just we'll see. 00:01:42 Speaker 3: He better, he better get his get us. He's around. 00:01:45 Speaker 7: We start. We we delayed our start for him. He's gotta he's gotta hustle up. 00:01:49 Speaker 4: So the first topic up for bids is. 00:01:54 Speaker 3: White people. 00:01:54 Speaker 8: What is which is another reason we had Cliff Malone exactly that we need to get the America's math. We needed we needed the white person to make sure. We needed to make sure we had a white person around to discuss this topic. Insufficient, Yeah, no, but this is yeah exactly, So no, we wanted to talk about this. So we had Trump nominee Jeremy Carl on the show the other day. He also is up for a nomination in Congress, and they really interrogated him because he wrote a book, The Unprotected Class that's about how it's okay to discriminate against white. 00:02:30 Speaker 3: People in America. 00:02:31 Speaker 6: Killed all wits. 00:02:32 Speaker 8: Yes, kill all wits, it says on the cover. And they also they specifically pressed him. I believe it was Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut was like pressing at him to define what like white identity or white culture was in the context of things. 00:02:49 Speaker 9: Uh. 00:02:49 Speaker 8: In fact, we actually have that clip. We could just show that real quick to sixty seven. 00:02:53 Speaker 2: Only how you define white identity and what you think is being erased about white identity. 00:02:57 Speaker 10: I am concerned with the majority common American culture that we had for some time that through particularly mass immigration, I think has become much more Balkanized, and I think that weakens us. And again, I'm not running away from that comment. I'm not apologizing for it. 00:03:14 Speaker 8: So they went back and forth a little bit about that. But there's a bigger context of what's going on where some people have criticized the idea that it exists. And so AOC was for some reason at the Munich Security content. 00:03:27 Speaker 3: I think we know, Oh, yes, indeed. 00:03:30 Speaker 8: And so she was there and she talked very incoherently about a lot of security topics, but she also talked about those darn whites. And so we have this, we have this clip six'. 00:03:43 Speaker 3: Ten there's a. 00:03:44 Speaker 11: Very big difference between whiteness and national like your actual, culture, Right whiteness is an imaginary. Thing Being german is. Real, well Being italian is, real, uh you, know Being. English these are rich cultural heritages that are based on, values and they are so much a part of what make our our our cultures and our societies what they. 00:04:19 Speaker 4: Are did why DO i feel like she's trying to strangle whiteness while she's talking About. 00:04:25 Speaker 8: Actually i'm thinking of her like being, yeah like a witch like conjuring up like ball. 00:04:28 Speaker 3: Light it's getting. 00:04:30 Speaker 6: DIFFERENT i also want to submit that it should be. 00:04:33 Speaker 4: HERITAGE I i don't know, why but heritage IS i don't. 00:04:36 Speaker 7: Know SO i THINK i think that's kind of that's the starting point for this, conversation is WHAT aoc was. Saying she was, saying there Is german, culture there Is english, Culture french, Culture italian, culture whatever you, like but there's no. 00:04:50 Speaker 3: Such thing as white. 00:04:52 Speaker 8: Culture AND i think THAT'S i think that's an interesting question does it? Exist AND i think it's an important thing to, ask because if you're on, this if you're most OF i think if you're Most, americans you're kind of a euro Mut SO i don't think any of us have a strong sense of being Specifically italian Or polish or. Whatever and if we have any identity that's other than just Big, american but with every other group In, america you know we'll Have american identity and subgroup. Identity so does does a white culture? Exist and if, so what actually is? 00:05:25 Speaker 4: IT i think we need to Throw Cliff maloney in the hot. Seat, cliff to, you you're, first does it? 00:05:30 Speaker 12: EXIST i don't necessarily think a white culture, exists BUT i think that we have lulls that pretty much exclude whites or include everyone that is not, White and so you kind of have. 00:05:44 Speaker 5: To think of. 00:05:44 Speaker 12: It Like Chris, murphy this is gonna sound weird because usually WHEN i think of, POLITICIANS i really think that they have a deeper. 00:05:51 Speaker 5: UNDERSTANDING i think he believes what he's. 00:05:53 Speaker 12: SAYING i think when he Asked jeremy, like, hey do you, like are you really thinking that whites are the most you, know pervasive when it comes to racism against. THEM i Think Chris murphy buys the bs that he's been fed that you, know whites have to have white guilt and of, course you, know we have it better than. 00:06:10 Speaker 5: Everybody, else and he just he believes what he's. 00:06:13 Speaker 12: Saying AND i JUST i love when they kind of get called on. This so DO i think there's a white. CULTURE i think that there is enough out there that puts whites in a, box whether it's for good or for. Bad that, yes we've kind of had this situation where you, Know i'm What, Scottish, Irish, welsh you, know we're all, mutts as you would. Say BUT i don't ever identify as with a white. CULTURE i just think that in certain things we just get lumped into that. 00:06:39 Speaker 3: Box. 00:06:40 Speaker 13: Uh i'm proud to be, White, okay, okay but doesn't mean. Culture Singing Sweet, caroline every WEDDING i go to oh brutal with every white in the audience singing, Along but also, like is really, yeah look, okay like all of us will band together on that. One, no but at a, Wedding i'll do that resilience, determination inevitable, Genius like to take one hundred Random europeans from different. Countries, okay so we got Like scotland, whales like different areas of even THE. Uk Take, Slovakia, Hungary, Denmark, Sweden norway and put them all In antarctica with everything they need to. Survive leave them for five hundred, years and you come back to this great, civilization and every single migrant in the, world every Single, muslim once they see this great civilization In, antarctica. 00:07:39 Speaker 3: Will we'll want to move. 00:07:41 Speaker 13: There white people are great at, Building they're great at, resilience figuring out whatever they need to figure. 00:07:46 Speaker 3: Out they're great at. 00:07:48 Speaker 13: Surviving but here's the thing about white, People, like what what are we of the world's, population like seven percent. 00:07:54 Speaker 6: Something like, That So america or white. 00:07:56 Speaker 3: People no white. 00:07:57 Speaker 4: People it's, like think it's going. Down it used to be thirty five. Percent Actually elon mustweeted about. This it was like thirty five percent at some point as high water, mark and now we're down to like ten. 00:08:09 Speaker 3: Percent. 00:08:10 Speaker 13: Yeah but to say that there is no white, culture because there's so many different factions of white, culture Like, German, Italian french from THE, uk is to say that there's No spanish, culture even though there's like so many different factions Of spanish. 00:08:27 Speaker 8: PEOPLE i think the most important point to illustrate that there probably is a white culture is if we were to, say is there a black culture in The United states distinct from just Being, american we would obviously, say, yes there's a ton of cultural traits that make black people stand out from the rest of the. Country and there's Still. American there's still a lot Of american cultural traits. 00:08:46 Speaker 4: There that make black, people Black americans stand out From Nigerian yes or. 00:08:51 Speaker 3: Yeah where? 00:08:51 Speaker 8: Exactly and you know WHAT i would, say as you, said as A cliff, said, like there's laws that discriminate against us In. America so clearly white people are seen as being a discrete group if they can be. 00:09:04 Speaker 4: Discriminated i'm gonna cut through the noise. Here of course there's a white. Culture of course there's a white. Culture i'm, sorry But i'll go to a football game in The, south or in The Upper midwest or, wherever and all the white people celebrate that football game just about the. Same, now The eagles fans may beg to. Differ Cliff maloney may feel like there's only one fan. 00:09:29 Speaker 6: Base that does it the right. 00:09:30 Speaker 4: Way but it's like we all know the same drinking, games we all know the same, movies we all know the same, songs we all know the same stupid line dances and all the, things even if you don't know exactly the words or exactly the. Steps like we're, aware there is absolutely a white. Culture it's a, hegemonic hegemonic culture in this. Country that's what upsets them, All, Okay but you can't fault us for the fact that this was established essentially from the turn of the last century into about the nineteen sixties or, seventies when there was no, basic no mass migration going on between The Great depression in nineteen sixty, five and that is when this great congealing. 00:10:09 Speaker 3: Happened we won A world, war we. 00:10:12 Speaker 4: Started dominating the manufacturing around the world and productivity around the, world and it just congealed all. Together we were actually able to assimilate The polish and The italians and this second wave of white immigration that we experienced at the latter half over the last couple decades of eighteen hundreds and the early part of the twentieth. Century but, yes there is absolutely a white, culture and that is all rooted In anglo. Culture, Why because it was The brits and The scots and The welsh and The irish that all came together and created An anglo centric. Culture that's where we get our, laws our, customs our, norms our. Language we are In anglo. Culture we are In anglo white culture that's spiced up with a few different varietals from other parts of the. World and it's a beautiful. Thing there's no nobody in the world that is going to say This americ White american is like This australian white. Person nobody in the world is gonna say This, canadian, Well canadians a little bit, different or This british is like This. American because over the, years it's, congealed informed as cultures do their living, organisms into its own. Thing and guess, what it's a beautiful. Thing it's a good. Thing it's a thing that landed on the. Moon all you you moon, truthers get off my back. Here that that one two world, wars that that settled the, planes that built up a beautiful, civilization that built really rad cars In hollywood and all this. 00:11:36 Speaker 6: S we have our. 00:11:37 Speaker 4: Culture we like. Baseball we're you, know white culture likes. Baseball we like hot. Dogs all of this stuff is Incredibly, american and to suggest that it doesn't exist is the height of, insanity and it's deeply, infuriating, actually which is why you're seeing the rise of a white identity in The United. 00:11:53 Speaker 8: States, yeah, WELL i think that's actually that gets. That WHAT i would say is truly a white cultural practice in The United, states and there is a certain self effacing aspect to. It SO, i for, EXAMPLE i would say it is specifically In america a white cultural trait to want to sort of efface race as a. Factor to, say, NO i don't even think it's. THAT i THINK i think that's actually a little bit more innate than, that because, notably we kind of continue to do it even as we're. 00:12:25 Speaker 3: Nearly not a majority of the. 00:12:26 Speaker 8: Country, uh there is a desire to not have any bias towards an ing, group towards your own. 00:12:33 Speaker 3: Group that's just for the sake of. It every other, group every other group openly. 00:12:38 Speaker 8: Does you can run the poll where it'll say they'll ask, people how what do you on average rate different races as and every race will like rate their own high and white people. Low and then white people are very careful to just rate them every race the exact. 00:12:52 Speaker 3: SAME i think. That, ACTUALLY. 00:12:55 Speaker 14: I don't mean to go backwards on. 00:12:56 Speaker 7: This so did Did secretary Of rubio do this at the Hofbroy house us? 00:13:00 Speaker 14: UPSTAIRS i don't think? So, okay as long as that, was that didn't. 00:13:04 Speaker 3: Happen do what are you just doing A hitler? 00:13:09 Speaker 7: Thing i'm not doing a Hitler how dare you say the Hofbroy house In munich is a great place for families to go and. 00:13:18 Speaker 8: Enjoy nothing historically important happened. 00:13:22 Speaker 14: There nothing historic has happened. 00:13:24 Speaker 3: Upstairs, No no historic things have happened In. Munich beer halls named the Hoffbrow, House, okay. 00:13:30 Speaker 14: Which they have one In. Vegas BUT i don't. Think but we're not A nazi. Upstairs but take. 00:13:35 Speaker 13: Look get put An, australian A british, person you, know us in a room with a bunch Of, Chinese, kazakhstani you, Know. 00:13:45 Speaker 14: Japanese what are The Kazakhstanis? 00:13:47 Speaker 13: Africans and we will all all the white people will bond together the same, page me and The british. Person you, know they'll come over and but oh LOOK i love you. 00:13:57 Speaker 15: Guys. 00:13:58 Speaker 6: Listen trump's lost his mind. 00:14:02 Speaker 7: His. 00:14:02 Speaker 6: Mind but will you sign listen common? History, right common? 00:14:08 Speaker 7: History you're talking with a Black british. 00:14:11 Speaker 3: ACCENT. A, no. 00:14:16 Speaker 6: We're just there recently. 00:14:20 Speaker 14: Your Best Black british. 00:14:21 Speaker 4: Accent so here's the. Deal that's here's the. Deal, though what he's explaining is actually really. True it's not that different races are not able to share the same. Culture it's the distance between culture actually is felt, socially MEANING i might have a really great black, friend uh and and that's, great BUT i but if you put me in a room full of, Strangers i'm going to naturally share more in common with other white people from other. Countries and you see that play out culturally because the distance cultural distance is. 00:14:55 Speaker 7: Shorter and that's that's. Okay we shouldn't be so afraid of. That culture clture is emergent as. Well so why do white people are white people a discrete? Group, yes they, are because everyone basically says they. Are our, Statistics i'll say they are are culled like all popular discourses they. Do and then are there things that what are there cultural practices that white people. 00:15:14 Speaker 3: In particular do In? 00:15:16 Speaker 8: America and you, know you know there are because for the past five six, years we've had endless freakouts over things that are too. WHITE i remember our national parks were too. 00:15:25 Speaker 4: White do you remember the black The, smithsonian The African American museum, that, yes literally whiteness. 00:15:32 Speaker 8: On top of. That but that not even just. That it's that like go to A i'll pick my. Favorite i've been to a few heavy metal concerts in my, time AND i went TO i went to A Judas priest And saxon concert in that was. Great Judas priests In saxon In, washington D. C In, washington D. 00:15:49 Speaker 7: C And i'll Say, WASHINGTON dc is a very diverse. City any number Of hispanics and black people And indians and whoever could have gone. There AND i will say that was a Very european crowd and One Native america crowd at this. 00:16:06 Speaker 14: Accident, yes here, here. 00:16:07 Speaker 6: Here here is my here is my. 00:16:10 Speaker 14: Care that's so that. Unexpected this is. 00:16:12 Speaker 4: My theory that remember what was that One Supreme court justice that said you know porn when you see it whatever THAT i can't remember who said this is the. Thing And, Cliff i'm Gonna i'm about to flash one of your favorites. Here you, know whiteness when you see, it throw up five ninety, Two. 00:16:33 Speaker 6: Throw up there. Whiteness that is white, family that Is Dawson's. Creek cliff is gonna have my. 00:16:42 Speaker 4: Bag, YEAH i guess a little shout out To James vanderbeg who we. 00:16:45 Speaker 6: Lost good, man a good family. Man six. Babies by the, way it has six. 00:16:49 Speaker 14: Kids god bless the, great great white. 00:16:51 Speaker 3: Guy this is a real. 00:16:55 Speaker 6: White, Guy. 00:16:55 Speaker 7: Edie it's, yeah it would have been so funny for us to like rate that white culture. 00:17:00 Speaker 3: People, cliff do you agree that you know it when you see? It AM i? 00:17:05 Speaker 6: Wrong, no you're. 00:17:06 Speaker 12: Right AND i think you guys use me as a guinea pig to start. Here and WHEN i, say like WHAT i think of white, Culture, no you're, RIGHT i mean it's it's IT'S i do think humans avoid, assimilation, RIGHT i mean we we we want to be with people we look, like that we get along, with that we connect. 00:17:23 Speaker 5: WITH i, mean this is the big. 00:17:24 Speaker 12: ARGUMENT a lot of the migration in THE us is like or or around the. World you look At europe like the refusal to want to. Assimilate, so, YES i think you know white culture when you see, it or whiteness or whatever you're, saying but, Yes Dawson's creek great reference. 00:17:40 Speaker 4: Age by the, way if people are confused about the B, roule right, now we're literally just flashing through bu roles of white. 00:17:47 Speaker 3: Culture Like. 00:17:50 Speaker 7: Cliff has in the, Background he's got lots of white culture behind. It right, now he's got a Rom paul, signed super, white super super appeal to the to THE i would say, THIS i would, SAY i would say his policies could be. Appealing but if you looked in the Ram Paul revolution of twenty two between two thousand and eight twenty, twelve it was a very white. 00:18:12 Speaker 14: Crowd you. 00:18:14 Speaker 3: Know it was. 00:18:14 Speaker 6: INTERESTING i. 00:18:17 Speaker 5: Got mad Because ron like always was ahead of his. 00:18:19 Speaker 12: Time but in like twenty eighteen he said at some event that like multiculturalism is, bad and like all these radical left libertarians were like losing, it you, know and, LIKE i, mean he was once again ahead of his. 00:18:33 Speaker 5: Time but like that was nobody was talking about that back, then. 00:18:36 Speaker 12: Right that the migration and just you, know everyone, thought, oh, well you, know multiculturalism hanging out with each, other of, course that's a good. 00:18:43 Speaker 5: Thing it was like the height of, woke and he was like the one guy saying. 00:18:46 Speaker 6: That so let me just be very clear on that. 00:18:49 Speaker 14: Note who's who's, wait who's on the painting behind you up? 00:18:53 Speaker 3: Here? 00:18:53 Speaker 14: Ye but, YEAH i, heard all, right this. 00:18:56 Speaker 5: Is a gag. Gift let, mean figure out our gag. 00:18:59 Speaker 3: Gifts white. 00:19:00 Speaker 14: Culture of, course white people give each other gain That martin Van. 00:19:05 Speaker 12: Buren yes It's martin VANT i know that, Portrait white. 00:19:09 Speaker 7: CULTURE i couldn't even see the. FACE i could just see the. POST i knew it was the polest my. 00:19:14 Speaker 5: Face, yes it was a great. 00:19:22 Speaker 7: Nothing nothing's wider than gag. Gifts all, Right but here's what we're. 00:19:25 Speaker 6: Saying, LISTEN i think race does sometimes. 00:19:29 Speaker 3: Matter it. 00:19:30 Speaker 4: DOES i, mean just ask THE. Nba but what we're talking, about you've been they've been waiting on. That didn't you say That Jesse jackson was the guy who popularized After African. 00:19:45 Speaker 3: American That Jesse jackson popularized, that. 00:19:47 Speaker 6: Which is which is news to. Me so here's the. Deal but you if. 00:19:51 Speaker 4: So for, EXAMPLE i went to high school with a bunch of kids that were not, white but they kind of grew up in the Dominant american culture where THEY i didn't feel ANY i didn't feel any separation from. 00:20:01 Speaker 6: Them and this is the. 00:20:03 Speaker 4: Thing so when you talk about, multiculturalism multiculturalism is where you celebrate all the groups staying distinct and they move, here and then you got The indian, neighborhood and you're just gonna celebrate The indian and, say, oh the food or whatever. 00:20:16 Speaker 6: They've been sitting on a bunch of THESE. 00:20:18 Speaker 3: I can tell this is, fun, Okay BUT i. 00:20:22 Speaker 6: Mean genuinely To Ron paul's. 00:20:24 Speaker 4: Point PROBABLY i didn't see what he, said but multiculturalism actually does make us weaker because we don't have a, dominant central through line of our, cultures shared, values shared, morals and shared, heroes shared, myths shared. Legends and that's really REALLY i think what people don't like living around because they don't they don't go To like if my kids go to school with those those kids are those people's. Kids they're not gonna like Celebrate easter. Together they're not gonna the holidays are gonna be, different the language is gonna be, different everything's gonna be. 00:20:54 Speaker 6: Different and that's not what you. 00:20:55 Speaker 4: Want you want your kids going to school with a bunch of people that share the culture and share the holidays and share the, interactions and that share culture more. 00:21:03 Speaker 8: Broadly AND i think there's there's actual, genuine weird fear that to acknowledge that there just might be some things certain groups just naturally for whatever, reason like more than other. 00:21:15 Speaker 3: People like there's gonna be easy going to black pilots. 00:21:19 Speaker 8: Again, No, no there's gonna be this like. Folk there's gonna be some folk. Concert it's gonna be a bunch of white people with guitars and they're gonna be singing their folk songs and it's gonna be really. Annoying AND i would hate. IT i would hate. IT i actually hate that. Music but BUT i acknowledge it's a ton of white people who like that sort of. 00:21:37 Speaker 3: Thing they love Their Bob dylan and. 00:21:39 Speaker 8: Whatever AND i know that these organizations are just endlessly having meltdowns because they're all white libs and they freak out because not enough people who aren't white libs like. It and, nevertheless that's white culture because it's about something a bunch of white people like and want to do and will do if not blocked from doing it by things like having a gigantic politics related. 00:22:00 Speaker 13: Meltdown, hey, look white culture is so incredible that you have people that aren't White mexicans Like andrew trying to pretend they are. 00:22:09 Speaker 14: White, NO i would, ACTUALLY i would actually say. This so this is How america. Works White america works very. 00:22:17 Speaker 7: Simple black, culture white people try to copy all the. 00:22:23 Speaker 14: Time they adopt that cause a lot of. 00:22:26 Speaker 6: Damage you can say his, name just say his, Name, eminem. 00:22:30 Speaker 14: Clothing all that stuff like words that we. 00:22:33 Speaker 7: Say it's actually like white people trying to like steal black, culture white trash. Culture mexicans steal all. 00:22:42 Speaker 3: The, time just because they. 00:22:43 Speaker 8: Were my favorite things about About mexican, immigrants like they love pro, wrestling they love they love, pizza parties at pizza, Huh like they love all of that. STUFF i love that they love that about and, Parks oh my, god they love stuff that is. 00:23:02 Speaker 4: Like i'm, sorry But, Saturday Saturday saturday In. California it's like. 00:23:08 Speaker 3: You just every part of the, parks every. 00:23:10 Speaker 4: Park don't even try fish fishing off like a Dock sunday. 00:23:15 Speaker 7: On, rivers like just posting up along rivers and creeks and things like. 00:23:18 Speaker 3: That are some examples of white people stealing black. Culture i'll jump. 00:23:23 Speaker 5: In, yeah this was me in high. School you guy should see photos of me in tenth. 00:23:27 Speaker 12: Grade oh very Very uh how DO i put this without offending my White philadelphia outside Of, Philadelphia let's put it that. Way AND i had to, assimilate AND i had to. TRY i had the huge stud ear ring just my last. HERE i would wear The foo boo. 00:23:46 Speaker 14: Pants yeah there's some big baggy. 00:23:48 Speaker 16: Pants but the number one thing THAT i changed IS i wanted to play cards and gamble at, lunch and only the black froat folks were like out there actually doing, This and SO i had to assimilate and join the culture and play tongue to try to gamble some some lunch. 00:24:05 Speaker 5: Money so that was a lot of. 00:24:06 Speaker 1: FUN i can just. 00:24:08 Speaker 4: IMAGINE i could just Imagine blake with his Or Blake cliff with his fubou pants and his stud, earring like smoking a black and mild out there gambling At Recess high. 00:24:18 Speaker 7: School high schoolers are peak our peak white kids trying to adopt black. 00:24:23 Speaker 14: Culture it's because of. 00:24:25 Speaker 7: Rap it's rap, music but white have been told that the culture, sucks and so they're looking. 00:24:32 Speaker 3: For BUT i think. 00:24:35 Speaker 7: It's like there's a there's a level of cool and swagger that that black culture produces In america that's promoted by the, media that is. 00:24:45 Speaker 4: Cool this is why my theory behind Gen z Gen z is adopting like cowboy uh like costumes like almost like there were a lot of them wear boots and they like to go to country concerts and rodeos like. YEAH i think it's because they're looking for something that's, defined that's something that they could be, like, OH i can do, THAT i can wear those, clothes AND i can feel black. 00:25:06 Speaker 7: Has created a whole thing, around especially around products and thinks like that, cars specific, cars brands of, cars rims in our, era. 00:25:16 Speaker 14: Big big big. 00:25:19 Speaker 7: SUBURBERS i just that came from black, holes higher era Of american. 00:25:25 Speaker 3: Culture it was a blight on my life and On. 00:25:29 Speaker 7: America come, on doctor Dre, Chronic come, on, YEAH i can think of all the SONGS i love off all. 00:25:36 Speaker 4: THEM i definitely was that high school like bumping speaking of. 00:25:41 Speaker 8: People and then we should a final thought on this and then we'll pivots the next. Thing if you want to get a good sense of what white culture, is go look at What japanese people do when they're ripping off stuff From, america because they're great at. 00:25:59 Speaker 3: Imitate The american. 00:26:00 Speaker 8: Subcultures there Are japanese people who really love like the greaser subculture from the, fifties like wear leather, JACKETS i, have like motorcycle. 00:26:10 Speaker 3: Culture they. Love they also love. 00:26:12 Speaker 8: JAZZ i guess that's an element of black culture. There but they they really are good at skate Skate they're really good, skateboarding so skateboarding Like tony hot Eighties california. 00:26:22 Speaker 3: Culture they pick up a lot of that stuff more of like a nineties right eighties. 00:26:27 Speaker 13: Nineties, NO i definitely listen to rap in high, school you had Like Doctor Dre, Yeah, no mine is like young Thug Travis. 00:26:35 Speaker 3: Scott The baby we Got. 00:26:38 Speaker 6: It that was like the dumbest baby a. 00:26:40 Speaker 3: Baby. Right the fact that we like are laughing at it means we're part of white. 00:26:45 Speaker 8: Man we got a, gravy we got a baby From zuzu's. Pedals we close it out with this five. Dollars nineteen Eighties John hughes movies were the best of things ever and appealed to white teenage. Audiences now people would say these amazing movies aren't diverse. Enough that actually is a very good. Point those films are very suburban white culture of the, eighties and. 00:27:08 Speaker 14: They were Definitely, Yeah Home alone didn't have a single black person in. 00:27:11 Speaker 3: It, yes it didn't know it did. Not, wait what are the? Movies? John? 00:27:14 Speaker 8: Here he had sixteen, candles, candles plain, strands and, automobiles pretty and pink, People. 00:27:22 Speaker 3: Breakfast club? 00:27:23 Speaker 14: Science, yeah was there a? 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Fifty but we could make More John hughes movies today because THE ai that we've been covering ever since this show's created has advanced remarkably, quickly and we're now at the point where there are just absolutely TERRIFYING ai recreations of every actor every film. 00:29:24 Speaker 3: You could ever. 00:29:24 Speaker 8: Imagine Seance Seed dance is the Latest CHINESE ai model that is being used for making these. Videos and it will watch some clips here and you'll, think, okay that's not one under the same as a. Movie but remember everything you see WITH, ai it is like TODAY'S ai is the worst it will ever be versus the. 00:29:43 Speaker 3: Future that's kind of. It it will get. Better so let's. 00:29:46 Speaker 7: Go we have A we have a fight Between Tom cruise And Brad pitt five eighty. 00:29:52 Speaker 3: Four so tell, me do you guys think that looks? 00:30:09 Speaker 14: Real it looks it looks like. Them it definitely did like paying. ACTORS i couldn't pick. 00:30:18 Speaker 8: The fighting about, it but the actual like the faces one hundred, alright let's do. 00:30:23 Speaker 3: That what Will smith fights a spaghetti? MONSTER i would watch. 00:30:38 Speaker 7: THIS i THINK i would find this movie. ENTERTAINING i think my children would find that. 00:30:46 Speaker 13: Movie my my worry is that there's gonna be no like creative art. Anymore the actors will just sign a. Contract, wait what about for ten? 00:30:54 Speaker 8: Million that's part of actors and and well and the part of part of what's amazing, though is this gets into another cultural, factor which is we don't really generate new movie stars, Anymore like who is a super famous movie? Star on par like on par With Tom, Cruiser Brad pitt, went, yeah that's the only One shallome and besides. 00:31:15 Speaker 7: Him Sidney, Swey Sidney Sweet, Okay oh, yeah what's The Sidney sweety movie you've? 00:31:20 Speaker 13: Watched who are the new? Okay Glenn powell is another. One there's so Much. 00:31:25 Speaker 3: No, no there's No Armie. Hammer he's in like one. Thing, NO i mean On trama's think, WHAT i actually don't know who that? 00:31:32 Speaker 13: Is Miles Miles tayler also used TO i don't know who that. 00:31:35 Speaker 14: Is maybe you're just. 00:31:36 Speaker 8: WATCHING i don't watch that many movies, Overall BUT i mean they might be, famous they might be well, paid but on par with how Big Brad pitt was when he was thirty, five on how Big tom dic Like Leonardo. 00:31:49 Speaker 3: DiCaprio those guys. 00:31:51 Speaker 8: Are huge names and they've been huge. Name they were huge names in their. Twenties every film that was released by them was like a big. Event every Every cruise film is. MASSIVE i don't think there's anyone out there where every film they make is a presumed tent, pole big deal event Even Timothy. 00:32:08 Speaker 3: Shallow Sidney, sweeney That's Sidney sweeney's movies. Bomb she was in a movie that no one. 00:32:12 Speaker 6: Watched party watches. Movies movies are. 00:32:16 Speaker 3: That that is part of. It BUT i, THINK i THINK i. 00:32:18 Speaker 14: Will go To sidney is all set. 00:32:20 Speaker 7: Up this is all set up to say he's doing research for. 00:32:24 Speaker 3: Ball this is all set. 00:32:25 Speaker 14: Up if we had an army Of Sidney, sweeney's we would never. 00:32:29 Speaker 8: Lose this is all set up to say we don't have that many famous, actors but people are endlessly attached to the same old. Ones Tom cruise is still making action movies sixties and he's in a. 00:32:38 Speaker 13: Sixties, okay that's not actors. 00:32:40 Speaker 14: Fault that's not actors in that. Point scription. 00:32:42 Speaker 13: Models, yeah HAD tv shows that. 00:32:46 Speaker 3: Fault it is the point adoption. 00:32:48 Speaker 7: In specific archetypes around, actors and that's in the heavy. 00:32:54 Speaker 14: Decline and the. 00:32:55 Speaker 7: Point Is Tom cruise In. TOM i want to finish this. Thought Tom cruise would in the, Past. 00:33:03 Speaker 8: Tom, cruise by the time he's sixty, five he would fade out of being this big action, star but he keeps being one because he is the big brand. Name we basically can't make new action stars on par With Tom cruise Or arnold or any of the ones we had in the. 00:33:16 Speaker 3: Ages but this is and that creates. 00:33:17 Speaker 8: The opening where you just sell Away Tom CRUISE'S ai rights and you just Get Tom cruise. Forever in, fact we could deage, him so we have forty year Old. 00:33:26 Speaker 7: Tom this is the same with fast food restaurants and chains that would make the argument there's only a there's only so many that can make it into the marketplace like new, ideas and the people become so accustomed to. That it's like McDonald's has grown Huge, Subway Like subway is not the best, sandwich but there's Still subways still the largest chain In america or the second largest or third largest chain In. 00:33:48 Speaker 14: AMERICA i think first and food. 00:33:50 Speaker 7: Because people just become so accustomed to something that they can't get off. It so how does that that shrinks over? Time, maybe but like again that goes. BACK i think it's like there's a brand. 00:34:01 Speaker 3: Actor but That tlake's. 00:34:02 Speaker 4: Point this this did you didn't see this in the past because the whole mechanism of delivering the new, food if you, will the new, actor was so powerful that it would overcome the barriers to entry and we would get new entrance into the, space and we don't really do that anymore BECAUSE i think our attention is so diverted and so. Siloed everybody's. Balkanized to Use Jeremy carl's, WORD i just, watch, yeah do? 00:34:26 Speaker 3: It anyone. 00:34:35 Speaker 5: Say my Name? 00:34:37 Speaker 1: Hesberg mm. 00:34:39 Speaker 17: Hmmm what you're holding is. 00:34:53 Speaker 8: Mine so for those watching that, later that Was Captain america And Scarlett johansson from Those Smart BLACK i can't remember her superheroto and it Was heisenberg From Breaking. Bad they did not cross over in real, life but now they have crossed over in the world OF ai movies and then beat him. 00:35:22 Speaker 14: Up you never Watched Breaking, bad No charlie to give. 00:35:25 Speaker 3: ME i haven't watched. 00:35:26 Speaker 5: Its best television. 00:35:29 Speaker 7: SHOW i can make. It did you make it through all OF? Covid he didn't Watch Breaking? BACK i can make it even. 00:35:33 Speaker 8: MORE i watched two episodes Of Breaking bad and didn't find it that, interesting AND i. 00:35:38 Speaker 3: STOPPED i locked down a. 00:35:41 Speaker 4: Day, JUDGE i judge every single opinion you ever have from here on, out blake by the fact that you couldn't get through two episodes Of BREAKING. 00:35:49 Speaker 3: I got through, too and THEN i didn't really want to watch watch together if you. WANT i guess Let's cliff get in, here, man what are you thinking it is. 00:35:56 Speaker 5: The best gift Or jiff. 00:35:58 Speaker 12: Whatever we don't have that argument ever for Door, knocking which is The Walter, WHITE i am the one who. 00:36:04 Speaker 7: Knocks there was somebody that did a took all of the seasons and did a super cut and and and and put them into like three hours and made it like a cinematic. Movie and it was out on the. INTERNET i think you still find it like on so. 00:36:24 Speaker 3: You could just get like this straight into your, veins distilled. Version, no but. 00:36:28 Speaker 7: They've said they, said LIKE i didn't get a chance to watch, it but it's it's in like The Dark web or Like Pirates bay or. Whatever you could do like that down at. It but it's three hours and it's supposed to be incredible like a full length, movie but it's all like and they've only taken the most important. Parts but they edited it, perfectly. 00:36:45 Speaker 3: And i'll believe that WHEN i see. It by the, way we know. 00:36:48 Speaker 7: It's it's supposed to be like people watch it and they like people were like raving about. 00:36:52 Speaker 8: It like, yeah by the, way since we had That Breaking bad. Clip this is this is where we're. Headed sony actually just Sent Bite. Dance who are the? 00:36:58 Speaker 3: Guys uh THEY. 00:37:01 Speaker 7: I believe it is ByteDance on the company that was also Behind. TikTok, well they also are behind The Sea dance, model and they got a letter From sony that says you have to take all of Our Breaking bad And Spider man's stuff out of YOUR ai training. 00:37:12 Speaker 3: Data i'm Sure china will get it right on that, one BUT i think that's the. 00:37:17 Speaker 8: Future, like it's kind of interesting that the great the blocker ON ai development might not be computer, chips it might not be. 00:37:24 Speaker 3: Science it might be input that all of the big. 00:37:27 Speaker 8: Legacy media outputlets are going to come in and get the courts to say you can't just take everyone's stuff and use it to make. 00:37:34 Speaker 6: What it's garbage in garbage. 00:37:36 Speaker 4: Out so but right now they're stealing the best stuff that human beings have ever created in using that to generate THEIR ai. Models so if you block successfully what they're able to, ingest it would beg to. 00:37:49 Speaker 8: You, know it could be a way to block something and that could be what's actually interesting IS i can see a positive outcome here where that is actually what causes more original stuff to be made USING, ai because let's say they win and they, say, okay you can't use a bunch of this pre existing stuff in the training. Data as a, RESULT ai becomes really bad at Replicating, Batman, Superman Star, wars what have. You but it's better at more generic, stuff and so they use the generic output. Stuff, okay here's Star battles and it's totally different From Star. 00:38:24 Speaker 4: Wars it's interesting also to me that your Upper midwest accents takes takes that word generic. 00:38:30 Speaker 3: When they're generator something generic. GENERIC i say it with a long. 00:38:34 Speaker 14: E this is. 00:38:35 Speaker 3: This this is my white person folk. 00:38:37 Speaker 6: Way that this IS i don't. 00:38:39 Speaker 3: Recognize my white culture is pronouncing things the Way god, intended the way Of. 00:38:43 Speaker 4: SOUTH i think this kind of melds really well with the next, topic social media band for. 00:38:47 Speaker 3: KIDS i think this is. 00:38:50 Speaker 8: Fascinating, well we can't quite move on to. That before we do, that we have to have the goat and the exploding gas. Station so really quick play five eighty eight the exploding gas. 00:38:57 Speaker 3: Station, Sure i'll take. 00:38:59 Speaker 1: Those, please you need to pay for? 00:39:01 Speaker 6: Those, OH i. 00:39:03 Speaker 14: Seem to have forgotten my. 00:39:05 Speaker 8: Money you would ban children from accessing social media to view. 00:39:17 Speaker 4: That, CLIFF i just think it's a fascinating debate and we should have. It why don't we play five ninety. Eight this is a A Polina Luna hr seven three nine to. Nine to prohibit users who are under the age of thirteen from accessing social. Media to prohibit the use of personalized recommendation systems on individuals under age, seventeen and limit the use of social media in. Schools so there's three parts to. That if you're under, thirteen no social media at. All to prohibit the use of personalized recommendation systems on those under, seventeen and limit the use of social media in. 00:39:50 Speaker 3: Schools is this good or? 00:39:52 Speaker 6: Bad Cliff, maloney got. 00:39:55 Speaker 3: H you're getting. 00:39:56 Speaker 4: Funny we all get to like pile on when you say something that we Just. 00:40:00 Speaker 5: Yeah my views on this have vastly shifted in the last five. 00:40:04 Speaker 12: Years you, KNOW i used to be much more libertarian and, think you, know the government shouldn't get. Involved but, HONESTLY i think a lot of this stemps from the idea that if there's one thing the government should, do it should be to protect those under the age of. Eighteen you, know we've seen that with all the transition surgeries and all the Woke, yes but. 00:40:18 Speaker 5: That ruining people's. 00:40:20 Speaker 3: Lives, Cigarette, Yeah i'm on. 00:40:23 Speaker 12: BOARD i do you think it's the one thing that the government should come in, and you, know set some parameters to make sure the kids are not getting mind warped at you, know ten years. 00:40:33 Speaker 3: Old not a republican. 00:40:35 Speaker 6: Government what's your. 00:40:37 Speaker 3: TAKE a republican government should not do. 00:40:40 Speaker 8: That my table would be so. Pissed my take is that you do social. Media my take is that social media was a. Mistake we should ban all social media and if someone tries to recreate, it they get the death. Penalty, okay, Okay, instagram you're caught with like An instagram like app in your in your home computer. 00:41:00 Speaker 6: Lab tyler has, Kids, TYLER i do to ban or not to? 00:41:05 Speaker 3: Ban like, YOU i have. 00:41:06 Speaker 7: Children here's the. Here we we kept our. Kids so my oldest kid is, seventeen which is. Crazy he has had. 00:41:17 Speaker 14: A phone since he was twelve or, thirteen which is kind of a. 00:41:24 Speaker 7: Phone his mom wanted to have a phone because of getting hold of, them but we had it on lockdown so he couldn't download any. Apps he was not allowed to download social media until he turned. Sixteen So i'm kind of like okay with it because LIKE i personally in my own house was, LIKE i don't, Think, MIKE i didn't want my kids on social media before. THIRTEEN i don't think like if it was up to, ME i probably wouldn't have given my. KIDS i wouldn't give my kids a cell phone until they're. Sixteen but So i'm a little old. 00:41:53 Speaker 4: SCHOOL I, okay one THING i think we could all agree, on and maybe we. CAN'T i don't, know BUT i would think. Banning So i'm like for full ban of tablets devices phones at, school, yeah or, restaurants and they they basically they basically found that within about six, months kids start acting like students did like in two thousand or two thousand and, five so they revert. Back they actually get their attention spans. 00:42:18 Speaker 7: Back they're cool and they start smoking cigarettes and, yeah they. 00:42:21 Speaker 4: Go they're gambling out in the in the in the quad With black And miles And. 00:42:25 Speaker 3: Cliff they're playing. 00:42:25 Speaker 14: Pods they got po pods came. 00:42:28 Speaker 3: Back talk About. 00:42:30 Speaker 8: Yo when we talk about banning phones in, schools it's always the focuses on the, Kids but we actually need to make the parents more normal, too because when they've tried to do this in some, schools it's they get so much pushback from the parents who flip. OUT i can't immediately contact my child at all. 00:42:45 Speaker 3: Times, no you can. 00:42:46 Speaker 4: Have a, phone like in a backpack or, something but, like, HONESTLY i. 00:42:51 Speaker 12: Like. 00:42:53 Speaker 3: Keep it in your. 00:42:55 Speaker 8: Old fashioned. Way if your parents need to reach you call the. 00:42:58 Speaker 3: School and the school, yeah but you know they're going to push back because the school shooting, deeper you know. 00:43:05 Speaker 4: Whatever, well what, honestly what they should do is you can have a, phone but it has to be a flip. 00:43:10 Speaker 6: Phone has to be a dumb, phone not a. Smartphone not just. 00:43:12 Speaker 14: Keep it in your. Locker you can access it at. 00:43:14 Speaker 4: Lunch but if there's, shooting, theory Couldn't CAN i tell them having the phone isn't going to save their life right? 00:43:21 Speaker 7: Now, Said we're not that far away From SO i just had this thought that came to, me AND i don't really understand. It when my when my phone's on airplane, mode why CAN'T i set a setting so that it automatically texts people who call, Me like it tells them. 00:43:37 Speaker 14: That i'm on a. Plane if It's i'm on airplane. 00:43:38 Speaker 7: Mode, anyways this is this brings me to this, point is we're not that far away from when kids are at school there being an automatic setting that locks down their phone essentially by being there where you can still make calls like a flip. 00:43:52 Speaker 3: Phone but you can't do any of the data. 00:43:55 Speaker 7: Like you could probably a state could probably pass a. Law but it's like the technology. 00:43:59 Speaker 3: Is not that far, off probably already. 00:44:01 Speaker 14: There like you just like you can't do. 00:44:03 Speaker 7: Data you have aeroplane, mode you have school. Mode, yes there's just like there should be a little a little. 00:44:09 Speaker 4: Toggle, yeah but that that's you can't do an opt. In it has to be like, no you're. 00:44:12 Speaker 14: In you can, force but you can force it with the right you can do. 00:44:15 Speaker 13: This so there's a company Called brick, okay and so you it like sticks onto your fridge and so a lot of Gen z people are. 00:44:22 Speaker 14: Addicted to social. 00:44:24 Speaker 13: Media so they buy this company Called. Brick and what you do is when you get home for the, day all you do is you take your phone and you touch it to the. Brick it's like a little box and it automatically shuts off and locks all social media on your phone. 00:44:37 Speaker 3: For six hours or five hours or two. 00:44:39 Speaker 13: Hours you can pre set it so there can be companies that once you enter, school you brick your phone at the, door so no social media is, allowed no texting is, allowed only a phone call to your, Parent like only phone. 00:44:52 Speaker 3: Calls it sounds, Awesome, yeah so you can do. That that is a Thing. 00:44:56 Speaker 8: Tyler's, right, son where they touch the brick and they can't talk for Six this is totally plausible right, Now like we should be able to do. 00:45:03 Speaker 4: That but you know there's gonna be all the civil libertarians like Like cliff that are going to be already gaming out how this, gets you, know abused by the sensors or. 00:45:13 Speaker 6: WHATEVER i. Think, schools so here's my. Baseline. 00:45:16 Speaker 4: Schools kids got to be learning from, books old school, books and here's but here's the tension a lot of schools have run into is they'll institute a phone ban or a device band in the, school but then they'll give them homework that requires a device in order to complete. 00:45:32 Speaker 6: It and this so this is a. 00:45:34 Speaker 4: Central, tension is we tell all these, schools, hey no, phones none of, this but we also want you to be the at the cutting edge OF ai and wanted to be the cutting edge of programming and all these you, Know so how do you bridge that? 00:45:48 Speaker 6: Divide how do you square that? 00:45:50 Speaker 4: Circle because our kids are getting good at these things that will be the tools of the future when they're, young but if you block them from developing those, skills then we're not going to be leading those. 00:46:01 Speaker 3: Fields, yeah, NO i. AGREE i don't. 00:46:04 Speaker 8: Know ALL i can think IS i don't know that there's any TOP ai, person or really any top computer person in general who got there because of their public school computer programming class that they took to fill their elective in high. 00:46:17 Speaker 3: SCHOOL i don't. 00:46:18 Speaker 6: Know it's it's it's also. 00:46:19 Speaker 4: Emergent it's it's tough to know exactly where the next iterations are. GOING i, mean THE ai world right now is essentially progressed by about two hundred engineers across The world's, well there's one people that are just there's like literally two hundred people that are advancing the field, dramatically. 00:46:38 Speaker 3: So it drives the best computer. 00:46:40 Speaker 4: Engineers that again makes me feel Like i'm back In dallas. 00:46:44 Speaker 6: Again whole neighborhoods Of. 00:46:49 Speaker 3: Dallas by the, way So Zuzu's pedals has another rumble. 00:46:51 Speaker 8: Rant she, says we have so many videos of bullies beating up a kid in school and it's the camera phone that happened to catch up so they could post. 00:47:00 Speaker 3: It and, uh no social media in. 00:47:02 Speaker 8: School uh oh, wait the social the camera phone was on waiting for it to happen to post. It SO i think she's saying we shouldn't have social media in school because people are literally beating other kids up that post it on social. 00:47:14 Speaker 14: MEDIA i can. 00:47:15 Speaker 13: See another black girl that just absolutely beat up that that young white. 00:47:18 Speaker 3: Girl on the other, hand it does expose. 00:47:22 Speaker 8: THINGS i think a lot of crazy left wing teachers get caught because of recordings in. 00:47:25 Speaker 14: School that's why we should just have cameras in. 00:47:27 Speaker 4: Classrooms, well how about you keep the camera on and you keep the phones on and everything else is. 00:47:34 Speaker 8: Off what if all classrooms were just a permanent. Panopticon you could just log into any class In america and watch. It every single teacher is one of the, time just visible. 00:47:46 Speaker 6: To smoke out a lot of. 00:47:47 Speaker 3: Wokies that, way we would. 00:47:49 Speaker 7: Smoke out a lot of. Things general teachers couldn't do. 00:47:52 Speaker 13: Anything the most conservative teachers would have like woke parents down their, neck like. 00:47:58 Speaker 3: No why are you saying this about The. 00:48:00 Speaker 4: Constitution it would be a it would be mayhem, actually but but we BROUGHT i, mean this is what happened DURING, covid is that we saw a lot of what our students were learning across the. 00:48:10 Speaker 6: Country people were. 00:48:11 Speaker 8: OUTRAGED i think it WOULD i think it would certainly demystify a lot of what modern education. Is LIKE i it's very clear a lot of people are attached to like one good teacher they had thirty years, ago and that informs their entire understanding of how modern. Total that's, hey, everyone we're excited to tell you About charlie's favorite. Supplement if you experienced brain, fog low, energy frequent, illnesses or if you just wake up stiff and achy every, day you've got to try strong. Cell charlie took it every single. 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Liberties we're talking about the concern that we might be censoring people if we put social media bands on. People by the, way this whole thing is happening at a court, house superior court In Los angeles Where meta And google are getting sued because a young woman named kag ms his acronym in the courthouse is assuming that they've made it to addictive and that she has depression. Anxiety by the, way all of which is. True young, women especially they go on social, media have massive spikes and anxiety and all this. Stuff so it's there is there is a, Downside this is very. 00:51:42 Speaker 3: Real but. 00:51:45 Speaker 14: Against who is women on the internet. 00:51:51 Speaker 3: They Are they're definitely not doing great great. 00:51:56 Speaker 7: Now So jim Bros and and a lot of a lot of women are not in a great. 00:52:01 Speaker 14: Place that's. 00:52:02 Speaker 4: True so but then we Have Thomas, massey who is a libertarian Minded kentucky congressman who is now at odds With President trump basically the Whole trump. ADMINISTRATION i, mean they they love to. 00:52:14 Speaker 3: Tee off on the well is he? Is he? 00:52:16 Speaker 15: Is? 00:52:16 Speaker 3: That what's going? On because so we did GET i wanted to get. This SO. 00:52:19 Speaker 8: Jm denton donated fifty, Dollars thank you very, Much, Jam and he said. This Thomas massey is a grand. Standard his principles are only present when. Convenient see his votes against funding the. Wall uh and what those? Show, meanwhile his principles didn't Stop biden's continuing. 00:52:38 Speaker 4: Resolutions that's What JAM i will say to that, Point Thomas massey did not seem to care about The epstein files When President biden was in. 00:52:47 Speaker 3: Office, yeah what do you what do you have to? 00:52:50 Speaker 8: Say cliff sounds like your sounds like your number one best friends being. Criticized cliff's going to be like that at do you see this? 00:52:59 Speaker 14: Week? Uh the episode is like on? 00:53:02 Speaker 2: What? 00:53:02 Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, YEAH i can't. 00:53:08 Speaker 14: Breaking its breaking up. 00:53:09 Speaker 5: HERE i Love, thomas. 00:53:13 Speaker 6: He Loves Thomas. Massy there it. 00:53:15 Speaker 5: IS i do Love Thomas. 00:53:17 Speaker 12: MASSEY i think on The epstein, THING i think a lot of people cherry picked some of The, well he wasn't that vocal During. Biden he was able to get it, through The president signed the. BILL i think there's been a lot of drop balls. HERE i think there's a lot of things, that you, know we could have done. Differently mass could have done some of the things, differently BUT i think it's so easy for. People WHAT i get mad at is that The republican establishment always puts him in a position or him plus a couple of The Freedom caucus members to be the ones that have to make the tough vote because they put up some sort of moderate. Bill, right it's Never Don. Bacon it's Never Don bacon that has to be the one or two no votes because of the bill was too conservative or too. Trumpy AND i think that's WHY i always do stick With, thomas BECAUSE i think a lot of the things he's. Doing people can, argue, well always too principal and we only have a one or two seat. Majority, okay you could make that, argument but, like why aren't we testing the moderates instead of having to test the people THAT i would argue are much More America. 00:54:21 Speaker 5: First that bothers. 00:54:23 Speaker 4: Me that's a fair. POINT i hear. That i'm trying to think of actual. Examples tyler might know this better THAN i, would because you run the scorecard over a turning point. 00:54:34 Speaker 14: Action, OH i can give. YOU i can give You Tommy, Thomas Tommy massey's current. Score, hey are you? Interested? 00:54:41 Speaker 6: Yeah while you're pulling that. 00:54:42 Speaker 4: Up do you buy into this whole theory that he's changed since he got Remarried. 00:54:47 Speaker 5: CLIFF i was at his, wedding SO i Think i'm pusician to answer. 00:54:51 Speaker 12: This, No AND i don't, appreciate you, know certain people taking shots at his new. Wife she's, wonderful AND i think a lot of people have kind of cheered he Picked i'll say, this and he might not like DID i say? 00:55:03 Speaker 5: This but at the, ceremony you, know they talked. 00:55:05 Speaker 12: About his ex or his wife's the Way ronda AND i thought it WAS i thought it was beautiful because a lot of people tried to jump on the fact that he got remarried too. 00:55:14 Speaker 5: Quickly he was one of the best husbands To, ronda the BEST i. 00:55:18 Speaker 6: TOTALLY i believe that Completely. 00:55:20 Speaker 5: I've ever, met and he did everything. 00:55:22 Speaker 12: Right started Dating carolyn a couple you, know after she passed, Away. 00:55:27 Speaker 5: So that bothers me a lot that people have kind of gone low on that. 00:55:30 Speaker 12: Issue and What's carolyn's supposed to, do you, know when when these things were blown, up, like she has no way to. 00:55:35 Speaker 5: Respond and so, NO i don't think he's changed at. 00:55:38 Speaker 12: All he's one of the best PEOPLE i, know and you, know he's been principled In congress for, years but now it matters because we have such a slim. 00:55:45 Speaker 8: MAJORITY i will, say this is SOMETHING i had forgotten, about BUT i remember being very upset about it at the, time and it's really irking me again to be reminded of. It right, after right After charlie's, death they Asked massy about it and he said he said everyone needed to turn down their, rhetoric but especially the, president where he complained that there is a lot of rhetoric and The president himself engages in. It he called it a hostile act to co sponsor The epstein. Resolution and Maybe i'm being nitpicky because it's something so personally close to, me BUT i don't really like. That massey took a left winger Murdering charlie and, said, yeah but, like let's remember that the president got mad at me for co sponsoring An epstein. 00:56:31 Speaker 3: RESOLUTION i didn't like. 00:56:33 Speaker 4: That, yeah it seems like So. CLIFF i actually totally ascribed to a couple of. THINGS i Think Thomas massey is a remarkable. MAN i think he is unique that the stuff he does at his home and living off the grid and that's all. Cool that's all very. Cool AND i think he was a great. HUSBAND i think he's a great family. MAN i think he has a stellar personal sort of like there's no skeletons In Thomas massey's, closet if you. Will but it does feel like he's become so, animated especially After trump came after him and maybe, listen you, KNOW i know that that probably came with personal. COST i know that that probably has increased his security detail AND i know that those wounds go go deep deep when you when you feel actually afraid for your own life because somebody of prominence is attacking. YOU i understand that. Intimately but it does feel like he's kind of animated by this feud With President, trump and it's kind of clouding some of the, messaging some of the, judgments some of what he majors, on and it does kind of feel, like you, know he's against us now in a GENERAL i, MEAN i would say he there was that blow up on the. INTERNET i actually was confused about it. Too he voted no on the, rule but he eventually voted yes on The Save, Act SO i think some of it gets lost in disinformation online but that's that's my that's My. 00:58:00 Speaker 14: YEAH i would say. 00:58:01 Speaker 7: This you, Know Thomas massey has actually been a friend of the organization for a long. Time he spoke at a, lot he spoke at a ton of turning. 00:58:07 Speaker 14: Point events similar To. 00:58:10 Speaker 7: Rampaul the same type of thing is that there's been this departure over the course of the last year during the Next strump presidency where there's just been some vitriol pointed at the president and some of it's a little bit concerning to me because and again this is a similar type of conversation and and you know this isn't pointed at uh, yeah just pointed At cliff. Here but you, know there there's purest like republican libertarianism where it's like there's some things THAT i think Ram paul And Thomas massey have done that are exquisite and it's pulled the party more to the, right and it's good and it's really it's really, healthy and it's really. Good AND i like the policies that some elected officials and legislative bodies have where they just both know on everything because they don't believe that the government should grow and that they shouldn't be passing, anything and that's generally been. 00:59:10 Speaker 14: Them Of Thomas, massey he's crossed that. 00:59:14 Speaker 7: Lines, WELL i Know i'm, saying but over the course of this last year in, particular there's been a little bit of a. Departure but there's signs of this that are a little bit challenging because you, know there was some there's some jockey and some brokering that happened In kentucky THAT i don't. Like and this is specific to these two, gentlemen because there's a lot of like wheeling and dealing with the McConnell, people and like they basically had like like, again a truce that in that. State And cliff can speak. 00:59:42 Speaker 14: A little bit more to. 00:59:42 Speaker 7: THIS i won't put them on the spot to speak to why as to, why but like Where mitch McConnell really wanted to attack Ram. 00:59:49 Speaker 14: Paul rampaul wanted to Attack mitch. 00:59:50 Speaker 7: McConnell and you, know and again that's not like one hundred percent Because Ram paul would, have you, know some words about policies that they they wouldn't attack each. 01:00:01 Speaker 14: Other AND i don't think that was helpful In. 01:00:03 Speaker 7: Kentucky LIKE i think In kentucky you have two of the most pro liberty, guys and at the same time you have one of the worst representations of THE dc swamp And mitch. McConnell and now you have a situation too where it's like they've kind of stayed out of this race For AND i could be totally wrong about, this but from What i've, seen they've largely stayed out of this race to Replace mitch. 01:00:25 Speaker 14: McConnell and that doesn't. 01:00:28 Speaker 7: Help And i'm a little bit more of like pragmatist when it comes to, this is, like we want the most conservative guy possible getting elected and use your muscle for. GOOD i just, think like my all this to say instead of Attacking Donald. Trump but you're not going to change the president by Attacking Donald trump if You're Thomas. 01:00:45 Speaker 14: Massey but what can you do at? 01:00:46 Speaker 7: Home, well you could get you, know a really great guy elected in THE Us senatory, Place mitch. McConnell and are you Doing are you spending all of your political capital to do? 01:00:55 Speaker 3: That, no he's not spending. It he's doing this. 01:00:57 Speaker 6: Instead and watch this clip six h. 01:01:00 Speaker 14: Three that's what bothers. 01:01:02 Speaker 18: Me Donald trump told us that even though you know he had dinner with these kinds of people In New York city And West Palm beach that he would be, transparent but he's. Not he's still in with The epstein. Class this is The epstein, administration and they're attacking me for trying to get these files. Released and Again i'm going to Say President trump has not been accused of anything. 01:01:25 Speaker 11: CRIMINAL i. 01:01:26 Speaker 8: THINK i think there is a lot of truth to Just, Unfortunately massy's had friction With President trump all the way back to his first. Term trump was trying to primary him out even then over he wasn't voting for stuff The president. Wanted AND i think a very real trend is when someone when a lot of people get in friction With President, trump you can see some people they handle it better than, Others like there are some senators who had big. SPATS i think Even Lindsay graham's had some spots With trump and he just he glides with. It he knows what he wants and he's very good at getting back in The president's graces and just deals with it and so, on and others they're very. Aware, okay Sometimes trump fixates on people and that's just how it. Is but for some people they get in it With, trump and after that it just gradually curdles everything and it starts to consume everything about you know what the difference. 01:02:15 Speaker 4: Is you're totally, right and we go back to white. Culture AND i was thinking of like albion seed or. Whatever, right how actually he's a border it's because he's a. Borderer, No so here's the. Thing look at Compare Thomas massey's reaction To trump attacks To. 01:02:29 Speaker 3: Marco Rubio's Marco Rubio latin Little. Cuban so you can do it if you. Want that's A mexican. 01:02:38 Speaker 4: Zuck but the point is he's let it roll. Off they put, it they put the they breid the, hatchet as it. Were and Now marco's like a rocket, ship Whereas Thomas massey he's he's like you, Know, Appalachia he's he's like a he's he's an honor society. 01:02:55 Speaker 8: Guy you're you're right that different people handle it. Differently BUT i don't know THAT i had associate. 01:03:02 Speaker 3: You been burying the hatchet and not carrying about. 01:03:05 Speaker 10: That. 01:03:05 Speaker 4: WELL i think he cared obviously for a. While but he's he's much more sort of like sly AND i think, listen they buried the. 01:03:13 Speaker 6: Hatchet that's the bottom. 01:03:14 Speaker 4: Line massy has got that honor culture And trump came after his, honor and he's gonna, like you don't just bury that. 01:03:21 Speaker 3: Hatchet, yeah he's From, kentucky he's FROM i think is that where The hatfields and McCoy's. 01:03:26 Speaker 4: Were go, Ahead, uh, WELL i think that Was West. Virginia wasn't it the same type of? Country but it's. Similar, yeah go, Ahead. 01:03:31 Speaker 3: Cliff. 01:03:32 Speaker 5: Yeah so two major things to not push back, on but to at least respond. 01:03:35 Speaker 12: With number, ONE i don't Think massy has changed in terms of his his voting pattern at. ALL i think what's changed is that the margins are so narrow that now him being mister no ramifications for The trump administration for you, know passing. Legislation it's real, Right Ron paul voted no for, years but guess, what we had a twenty seat advantage for most of the time that he was in right or they were in the, minority and just it didn't. 01:03:58 Speaker 5: Matter SO i think that's number. 01:04:00 Speaker 12: One number, TWO i think the line in the, sand you, know the difference here is that When trump decided to go all in Against, massey what do politicians do when they're fighting for their political. Life, right they're going to figure out ways that they can kind of push. Back and this is not a shout At, thomas but we teach, This, right what do politicians care? 01:04:18 Speaker 5: About they care. 01:04:19 Speaker 12: About getting, elected re elected and elected the higher. Office, right that's all about even the good, guys that's what they. Do so his path to getting re elected is he's he can't align With. Trump If trump's going after him every single. Day he's able to raise money on certain things because he's you, know they're amplifying when HE'S i don't want to say Anti, trump but, YES i think we're seeing much more of the. Rhetoric BUT i always say to people, like what do you expecting your political lives on the, line EITHER a you retire OR b you fight to try to. WIN i Think Thomas massey wins his re election with fifty five to sixty. Points that's WHAT i. THINK i could be wrong hours and you, know over the next couple month for The. 01:05:00 Speaker 5: May nineteenth, primary BUT i think if he, wins my, dream let me say. 01:05:07 Speaker 12: This i'll say this For rand and For. Thomas my dream is we get through this. Cycle, uh you, know we can make, amends bring together more of a better. Coalition That's america. FIRST i know you guys laugh about it, now but there have been a lot of people that have kind of come full circle And i'd like to expose the, moderates not the people that are far, right but but. 01:05:26 Speaker 14: That but that goes back to my. 01:05:28 Speaker 7: Point that's, like, so that's what's so frustrating is that you, Know rand did the truth thing With, midge which was and, Again i'm not trying to put you on the, Spot, Cliff So i'm not expecting a response from, you because we love you AND i want to do that to. You but it's you, know it's, like you, Know ran could have used his political capital to go After, midge you, know all for all these years and from time to. 01:05:55 Speaker 14: TIME i think it's. 01:05:56 Speaker 7: EASY i think it's the cheap, shot you, know to go after the. President you, know it's it's a cheap shot to know that we only have a couple of a couple of seat, majority you, know in both, chambers you, know and to use that leverage that against the president's. 01:06:15 Speaker 14: Administration, ah it's it's. 01:06:19 Speaker 3: The harder to go after the. 01:06:21 Speaker 7: Moderates it's harder to take out the moderates and make this country a better place by going after The. Uniparty and and again that's not to say that both of these guys haven't been warriors on, that it's they haven't been focused enough. Warriors and the left is really good at going after our people in a focused way where they don't do this kind of. 01:06:44 Speaker 14: Stuff they never Like Joe biden couldn't. 01:06:48 Speaker 7: Turn on a light switch in The White house by, himself you, know at the end of his, term and his party wasn't attacking and they're. 01:06:57 Speaker 3: Like, oh he's so, great you, know we're gonna miss him so. 01:07:00 Speaker 14: Much that was. Sodent, no but, no he, no that's not what they. 01:07:06 Speaker 7: Said they were, like that was so brave of him to step, down like that was so. Brave and our side is, like our best, warriors you, know can't remain focused enough to go after the Radical Cammie left and THE Uni party who's aiding those. 01:07:21 Speaker 14: Guys so that's my that's my one big. 01:07:24 Speaker 7: Thing AND i know that's exactly what you're saying in so many, Ways, cliff is that LIKE i have that dream, too is that like, hopefully you, know people will, win and that's what elections are for and primary elections are four and then everyone can lay off and then they can be friends. 01:07:37 Speaker 14: Again And trump's really good at. 01:07:38 Speaker 7: That he's really good at being, like, oh, well you, know now we're friends again and we figured out ways to work together and and he's always actually been really good at, that and he deserves a lot of credit if that. Happens But i'm a little bit worried, that you, know if it goes the other, direction and let's, say you, know something bad happens and he loses right like, that people are going to be like pick, up you, know take their ball and go home type. Thing and the liberty community within The Republican party is super important in a lot of different states for The Republican party to survive and be. Good and they're a big part OF, maha and there's a big part of a big elements of like kind of the the neo you, know you, Know trump two point zero world that we have here THAT i think is really unhealthy for the direction that we could go if we don't have them as part of the. Table So i'm actually horrified by the idea that that could, happen BECAUSE i don't THAT i think that fractures the. 01:08:32 Speaker 3: PART i think he's gonna. 01:08:34 Speaker 14: WIN i think he's gonna win, Too BUT i gave your points. 01:08:36 Speaker 4: Made he makes the coalition stronger if we can all sort of sing from the same. 01:08:40 Speaker 7: Song but, yeah like to close, point if if they don't come, together like we're still fractured as if he, lost, Right like, so like you have a situation here where it's, like, guys The Republican party has to realize we're kind of like kids in gym in elementary school and we had that. 01:08:57 Speaker 14: Big you, know that big parish shoot tarp thing that. 01:09:01 Speaker 7: They made All american kids circle and we talked about white culture full circle, here like they made all of us like you lift it up and you pull it down and everybody's under. 01:09:10 Speaker 14: There for a few, SECONDS i was, like we're all. Friends everything's, great like everyone's, going but it takes everybody to do that together for it to. 01:09:17 Speaker 3: Work that's a big tent party you just. 01:09:19 Speaker 14: Described it's it's a it's a pe parachute. 01:09:22 Speaker 3: Party is a pee parachute. 01:09:23 Speaker 14: PARTY i, MEAN i don't like big tent where pee parachute. 01:09:26 Speaker 4: Party what percentage of the conservative, Movement, cliff do you think is kind of like this liberty, movement this libertarian, right you, know segment of. 01:09:35 Speaker 12: It, WELL i separated by people at liberal reality and don't write if you're not willing to Vote, republican then you KNOW i. DON'T i don't put you in that camp of, like, hey you're a. Realist you understand that losers don't. Legislate, like either. 01:09:48 Speaker 5: You get that or you. 01:09:49 Speaker 12: Don't, Right SO i think it's probably a solid ten to twenty percent of The republican wing is WHAT i would call Still Tea party. Liberty it's not fifty, percent, RIGHT i, mean most, people this is not a shot of, voters but as we all, know Most republican voters are working, class trying to put food on the, table taking their kids to basketball. 01:10:08 Speaker 5: Practice, right they're not. 01:10:09 Speaker 12: Ideologues BUT i think it is somewhere between ten ten to twenty percent THAT i would consider to be hardcore liberty slash tea party. 01:10:16 Speaker 5: Slash, hey the debt's a, problem we need less. GOVERNMENT i wish it was. 01:10:20 Speaker 6: More, yeah that's Where. 01:10:22 Speaker 4: Charlie charlie used to, rage like he used to be a little bit more libertarian, minded but then he started raging against it because he's that a lot of bad ideas work their way into the conservative movement because of. It but it doesn't mean that it's it's all. Bad it's some of the abstractions are pretty fun to think. Through but, yeah to your point, there if they're, realists then we can work with. Them and the question With Thomas massey, is if say you get a new president, there can you will he be able to willing to work with like A. 01:10:49 Speaker 3: Jd vance Or Marco. RUBIO i don't, know it's an interesting. 01:10:53 Speaker 12: QUESTION i THINK i think twenty twenty EIGHT Jd, vance you, know let's god willing gets in The White, house, RIGHT i think think you're going to see a big liberty. 01:11:01 Speaker 5: PUSH i Think JD's going to embrace a lot of. It and that doesn't mean he's disagreeing With. 01:11:05 Speaker 12: Trump i'm just SAYING i just think the timing of that If massie And Ran, DARAN i think the freedom clog. IS i THINK jd is going to, be you, know one of the best presidents of our, lifetime AND i think it's going to be a huge. Opportunity but Like tyler, said if it doesn't happen UNDER, jd it's not going to HAPPEN i, MEAN i would argue for thirty or forty years that the actual limited government. 01:11:23 Speaker 14: Wing as a. 01:11:24 Speaker 12: Voice this is probably the biggest opportunity we, have and right now everybody's, fighting which is a. 01:11:28 Speaker 4: Problem every Day americans make choices that shape our country's, future right down to which cell phone provider we. Support here's what most people don't. Realize Patriot mobile isn't just a wireless. Provider they're an activist organization funded by selling top tier cell phone. Service they've been on the front lines defending our freedoms long before it was cool to do, so standing in the gap when others. 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Today, well we wanted to read. 01:12:39 Speaker 8: This we talked about it a little bit the other, day but we really need to marinate in the lovely poetry of Perennial charlie punching Back Eric, swalwell. 01:12:47 Speaker 4: Who's by the, way the leading they. Have they do a jungle primary In california and he's the LEADING. 01:12:53 Speaker 6: Dem i'll take. 01:12:54 Speaker 8: It the sad thing, Is i'll take it there's some really Bad dems in that. Pile who's the girl we were talking? 01:12:59 Speaker 3: About? 01:13:00 Speaker 8: ORDER a lot of people got upset because we made fun Of Kandy porter's appearance too, Much SO i will not make any comments On porter's. 01:13:08 Speaker 14: Appearance, listen, listen he won't see you call ugly, ugly all? Right And Eric swalloell is. STUPID i, mean he's just A i mean it is. 01:13:17 Speaker 7: Pervy it is scary that that could be a, Governor like If Eric swawell can become a, GOVERNOR i WAS i, mean in, no in no normal. 01:13:29 Speaker 14: Country do they let guys Like Eric swawell become? 01:13:33 Speaker 3: Governor, yeah well we're not a normal. Country we're The United states Of. 01:13:36 Speaker 8: America WHAT i love about the, story by the, way is That Eric swalwell's old poetry was discovered by a big favorite of. Mine it was conservative Filmmaker Joel. Gilbert that name will not mean anything to, anyone But Joel gilbert did The Trayvon. 01:13:50 Speaker 7: Hoaxes does anyone know about that? One he also did the he did the he did The Michelle obama's going to run for? 01:13:58 Speaker 8: President, now that one didn't han out as, much but The Trayvon hoaxes a must watch because he basically proves that the prosecution team in The George jimmerman trial engaged in witness Fraud Rachel. Gentell they had her As Trayvon martin's girlfriend and she was his total imposture. Case they were they were taking, everything and he proves it stone. 01:14:20 Speaker 3: Cold you can find. IT i think it's on YouTube. 01:14:21 Speaker 1: Somewhere you can. 01:14:22 Speaker 8: Watch it proves its stone. Cold, anyway this guy. Went he's a great he's a great friendly. Autist AS i like to, say he's really a big details, guy really dives into, it and he went and he dug up all the old college writings Of Eric, swalwell which includes this lovely poem that he. Published if you have children watching this, show for whatever, reason you may want. 01:14:44 Speaker 3: To lead them. Away it is not entirely, appropriate but it is. Funny hungover From, burgundy and their. 01:14:51 Speaker 6: Beauty Was can we get a music track? 01:14:53 Speaker 7: Here if we can get if we have any like smooth jazz or. Romance my, now this man reading, This imagine this man on a. 01:15:02 Speaker 8: Stage she's doing this at a at a poetry slam at whatever, School Campbell, university Hung over From, burgundy and there beauty was formless and, magnificent a flurry of limbs and. Nails she chased AND i. RAN i, chased and she ran atop my. Hotel she, stopped AND i leapt for cloth and tan my anxious. Arm she bit my, scars beautiful WHILE i. 01:15:31 Speaker 3: Screamed she bent her lips to, mine kissing till veins, imploded and, exploded till blood rolled down our. Chins for bounded mouths cannot speak of. Parting in the, MORNING i awoke Beside beauty's, shadow her form, slappy her legs, Pale my scar. Lost my lips cracked and dry and we growned. Simultaneous this? Gross is this like? 01:16:03 Speaker 14: Weird like vampire sex? Stuff like why IS i? 01:16:07 Speaker 8: THINK i think they're drinking, wine so it's burgundy and it gets them animated and then they bite each. 01:16:12 Speaker 6: Other that's WHY i read here. 01:16:16 Speaker 14: Is way too here's his way giving way too much. Credit this is. Weird he's probably some weird. 01:16:25 Speaker 3: In the middle of the. Night he's some. Goober he likes there's something. 01:16:29 Speaker 14: Weird he likes like female, books like vampire. 01:16:32 Speaker 4: BOOKS i bet he reads that trashy like what do you call those those romance novels that are basically female poor romance? 01:16:39 Speaker 3: NOVELS i think he. 01:16:40 Speaker 6: Does then, yeah then he has. That then you. 01:16:43 Speaker 4: Know he actually wrote an op ed in The campbell newspaper, Saying i'm not A, republican nor AM i A? Democrat is there really a difference between an elephant and a? 01:16:53 Speaker 8: Donkey he also he also did columns like on his spring break trips and. 01:16:58 Speaker 14: Stuff you. 01:16:59 Speaker 3: Talk you talked about going to Can kuhn. 01:17:03 Speaker 14: The conservatives. COMPANION i. 01:17:05 Speaker 3: Don't i'm not sure. Why i'm not sure why did he don't? 01:17:08 Speaker 14: Forget did he consider. 01:17:09 Speaker 8: Himself he might HAVE i DON'T i think he might have rejected all. Labels maybe he was the most conservative guy they had At Campbell. University it's a good sign for The california if he. Wins but here's the. Thing HE i can't tell who's. Uglier Eric, Swalwell swallowell Or Katie. Porter oh come, on show that picture of. Him, oh come, on he's got like. This he's pretty. 01:17:32 Speaker 4: Freaking there's some like smoothness going, on like it's describe Him andrew with the. 01:17:38 Speaker 3: Music it just looks like there's just something the wrinkle the, chin there's like fat in the wrong places or. SOMETHING i CAN'T i don't. Know it just it's JUST i don't. 01:17:51 Speaker 8: Know, Okay, well we're gonna get a very Different this is him describing his trip to Can, kun which instead of being you, know poetry, voice has to BE i, guess, dude bro. Voice at each, club we did a stage, show usually karaoke to various popular summer, anthems but we were not limited to song and. Dance one club asked a friend in me if we would be interested in being honorary guest judges of the largest swimsuit contest In. Cancun being the opportunist. 01:18:20 Speaker 3: That we, are we gladly. 01:18:22 Speaker 15: Obliged other perks included unlimited jet, scheme the whole week complimentary meals At Fat, tuesdays and a heavily discounted scuba diving trip To. Cosmel, yeah and he goes on. 01:18:35 Speaker 3: Like that for several. Pages so we Have Eric. 01:18:39 Speaker 14: Swalwell, yeah the most horrifying picture ever taken. 01:18:44 Speaker 3: Was this one of. 01:18:47 Speaker 14: A swallowell And Reuben gego shirtless on. Camel we got. 01:18:51 Speaker 3: It we're just about to put it up. 01:18:52 Speaker 6: There it is the. 01:18:55 Speaker 4: Camel oh, yeah all, right that other guy That's. 01:19:00 Speaker 14: Rubego that's. 01:19:03 Speaker 3: AMAZING i can't Rub Marine. 01:19:05 Speaker 14: Lorena so his actual, name that's his, dad his cartel and. 01:19:09 Speaker 3: Baraco but This. 01:19:14 Speaker 14: Ruben, diego That's. Malik That's, malik that's but no rub his his. 01:19:26 Speaker 7: Actual name Is Ruben Marine. Lorena he changed it because his dad's a Cartel yo fell. 01:19:32 Speaker 6: In didn't he like his wife or something when she was? 01:19:36 Speaker 3: Pregnant so, no this is how crazy it. 01:19:38 Speaker 7: Is ruben's actual name that he just, changed like a handful of years. Ago his name Is Ruben Marine. Larna his dad was a cartel pond he's like thrown in the. Slammer it's like a total like. It it's like a real, thing like you can. 01:19:51 Speaker 3: Google it's like. 01:19:52 Speaker 7: Everywhere and he changed his name to his like stepdad's name or, Whatever. Diego Mary's kate who is the mayor Of. Phoenix her name Is Kate gago now and, uh and then they got divorced and she kept his, name so she's Mayor. Diego that wasn't even like a blood. Name he just changed his. 01:20:13 Speaker 3: Name that. Helps that probably helps her get elected and as A. 01:20:16 Speaker 14: Democrat, YEAH i mean it's just an easier. 01:20:18 Speaker 6: Name, remember, so uh didn't he dump his wife when she was pregnant? 01:20:22 Speaker 3: Though it's like a whole, Thing, Okay. 01:20:25 Speaker 4: Yeah and then and then the other thing, is, uh SO i ran Into SO i WAS i was doing A fox hit IN, dc And i'm walking out and there's like a THERE'S, Nbc there's all these other outlets that are. There i'm walking out AND I i go Past Ruben gego AND i didn't even recognize him at. FIRST i just heard people talking. 01:20:43 Speaker 3: Off to my. 01:20:43 Speaker 14: Side it was only four feet, tall and, yeah he's very. 01:20:46 Speaker 3: Short that was the thing that you can easily miss, it. 01:20:51 Speaker 6: AND i heard a guy just. 01:20:52 Speaker 4: Swearing up a, storm like swearing like a, sailor like three or four like in a. Row AND i look over And i'm, like, dude That's Ruben diego is just swearing like a sailor right in the. 01:21:03 Speaker 6: Lobby of you, know to get into the fox. 01:21:05 Speaker 4: Burrow AND i was, like, yeah that that that. Fits and now THAT i hear that he has Cartel, ti this IS i, mean did you see? 01:21:11 Speaker 14: That did you see all those love handles That eric. SWAT i don't want it to be thrown up. 01:21:18 Speaker 7: Again they were sharing a camel at one, POINT i, feel and they were just you, know it was just like it was right into The egyptian. 01:21:25 Speaker 14: Sunset it was Just eric. 01:21:32 Speaker 3: Top. Too it's top. 01:21:33 Speaker 8: Two, obviously we want A republican to advance In. California but what If swallwell could get both of the top two, spots because we could have dude Bro Eric swalwell and we could have tender Lover Eric swalwell and the and Then california voters could choose between. 01:21:48 Speaker 7: Like Ai, Swallow Ai, conservative The conservative option or whatever you called. 01:21:54 Speaker 6: Himself this has been wonder any. 01:21:57 Speaker 12: Last, question is there any chance the Two republicans get the top two or is that match. 01:22:02 Speaker 4: Totally possible if The democrats don't drop, out they just keep splitting the. 01:22:06 Speaker 7: Vote there's a, chance BUT i mean it's very. Slim what needs to happen based off a. Turnout one of The republicans needs to drop out and. 01:22:14 Speaker 4: Consolidate and Obviously charlie Endorsed Steve, hilton So Chad, bianco we would be we would just love for you to consolidate forces right Behind Steve hilton and make sure we got A republican on. 01:22:25 Speaker 7: That BUT i would ARGUE i think the best chance is honestly that idea of, like because of the top two that the voter registration. Numbers the reality is that for A republican to win in the general is like almost it's very. 01:22:38 Speaker 14: DIFFICULT i, mean you were like under a million. 01:22:40 Speaker 6: Votes, yeah but we got voter idea on the ballot. 01:22:42 Speaker 4: Too there's gonna be a lot that it's going to generate a lot of energy for THE i get. 01:22:46 Speaker 7: It but What cliff's saying is, like that would be an awesome situation if Like steve And chad managed to squeak out a situation where they make it through and in the top two. Primary that may be The the reason Why democrats want to eliminate the top two primary in a state Like california is if that, happens because this type of thing may never happen again or for a long, time Because democrats are really good at like trying to they gained the. System, yeah scare everybody out of the, race and the usually The republicans In, california they'll they'll they'll run like fifteen candidates and then The democrats run like one or, two and then The dems end up a lot of times winning the top two in each of These this is part of the reason why The Republican party has been eradicated In california's is the top two. 01:23:32 Speaker 4: Primary Javio, Brasera you Got Antonio Villa. Ragosa do you know That antonio we're talking. About last name Is. Diego his last name used to Be Tony volar and he literally changed it to get The hispanic vote. 01:23:43 Speaker 6: When he ran For la May or To. 01:23:47 Speaker 8: Robert Franciso rouric Became. Beato, Meanwhile Raphael cruz goes By. Ted that is like the greatest illustration. 01:23:54 Speaker 7: Of american's, politics and That, Yeah hispanics always picking up on white. White ted would never her on A paulina Like wayne just would call her on A paulina because that was her. 01:24:09 Speaker 3: Name and then she added The luna to run In Florida's, yeah that's neither here nor. 01:24:14 Speaker 4: There it's this has been, Fun, cliff thanks for joining us tonight on Our Thursday Thought crime and H tyler and ACTUALLY i HAVE i missed a, few So i'm excited to be. 01:24:25 Speaker 3: Here, yes, no it's a lot of. 01:24:26 Speaker 8: Fun but you know who wasn't here was Was jack and he's been on every single, episode so he wanted to make sure he would get. Involved so we did do a segment Wo we talked About Brock obama and whether he confirmed aliens, existed whether aliens do, exist whether aliens should, exist whether it might be good if they destroyed us All trump he, did but. 01:24:47 Speaker 4: Unfortunately obama just you, know disclosed some classified material and you shouldn't have done. 01:24:53 Speaker 2: That big. 01:24:53 Speaker 3: Trouble he might bail him out in well, class. 01:24:56 Speaker 8: We don't have time travel, ability so we weren't able to hit, that but we hit a lot of other very fun. Stuff so we'll make this transition by throwing to you subject that guy, Himself, Obama obama are aliens? 01:25:09 Speaker 19: Real, uh they're, real BUT i haven't seen. Them and and and they're not being kept In uh what is? It fifty? One there's no underground facility unless there's this enormous conspiracy and they hit it from the president of The United states JET. 01:25:29 Speaker 20: Whoa so we want TO i want to let everyone in on. This so you, know we're pre recording this. Obviously as you can, see it is Ash. Wednesday Where i'm. AT i am currently with The president right, now probably On Air force one at the, moment flying with him around on on this board of peace, situation and then going down to down To geologia for the for the speech that he's having over, there seeing if we're going to strike or ran anytime. 01:25:56 Speaker 3: Soon so doing all, that it occurs to, Me, jack like by the time people missed IF. 01:26:01 Speaker 1: I missed eight thought, crime so HERE i am virtually it. 01:26:04 Speaker 8: Does it does occur to Me, jack by the time people see this and hear, this like you we might be like deep in, it like you might be you, know on the plane as they just like blow up to run or. 01:26:14 Speaker 3: Whatever they could be like really it this way like if. 01:26:17 Speaker 20: There's anywhere you want to, be It's Air force. One, right it's like literally the, safest like the safest plane you could be. 01:26:22 Speaker 1: On it's designed to with. 01:26:23 Speaker 3: Sad But, jack it's not where you want to. 01:26:25 Speaker 8: Be you would want to be with us covering it live BECAUSE i assume we've got to be going live if, that if that does in fact, happen so we'll. 01:26:33 Speaker 1: See, well we certainly, know we certainly know that that's What charlie would have, wanted yes. 01:26:37 Speaker 8: Live, ALSO i don't know how safe it would be because If President obama is telling the truth and the aliens are, Real i'm pretty sure they. Could they could take out uh Air force, one like they're just swatting down a. 01:26:50 Speaker 20: Fly so, well so here's the thing, though if he knows aliens are, real but they haven't revealed himself To, obama then it's sort of like have they revealed Themselves? 01:27:00 Speaker 1: Trump Does trump know about the? 01:27:02 Speaker 8: Season maybe what if they did, that like they revealed themselves To trump and he says, like why didn't you reveal yourselves To? Obama and they're, like, well we needed to wait for a real president or like a more or the aliens watch too MUCH tv and too much, movies and they they they only think it's a real president if he looks MORE tv. Appropriate it's kind of like it wasn't that the plot of That Galaxy quest, movie like it was a civilization that based itself on Watching Star trek episodes that got beamed into. 01:27:28 Speaker 1: SPACE i think YOU'RE i haven't seen that. FOREVER i think you're, right though it was something like. That i'm. 01:27:35 Speaker 8: Don't don't play them with, Me, JACK i KNOW i know that you're. Watching i've watched every single episode Of Star. 01:27:41 Speaker 20: TREK i know you you're Gonna i've Watched, okay So i've watched all OF. Tg i've watched all Of Deep space, nine which is of course the best. Track And i've watched most Of, enterprise but not the. 01:27:54 Speaker 1: Original i've not watched all the. 01:27:56 Speaker 3: Original, No i've watched it, all, Right i've seen some probably. 01:28:00 Speaker 1: Except beyond like the most recent of THE. J. J abrams. 01:28:05 Speaker 3: Movies, Okay i've. 01:28:06 Speaker 8: SEEN i Think i've seen about fifteen to TWENTY tng episodes and that's. It believe it or, Not, JACK i am not a Big Star trek. 01:28:13 Speaker 1: Guy, wow that is. Weird that IS i did not have you pegged for that at. All as a matter of, Fact i'm as full of. 01:28:20 Speaker 3: Surprises. 01:28:21 Speaker 20: Well it's what's, crazy, though is the people who believe in like, So i'm one hundred percent sure That Barack obama is a Huge Star trek guy and more than likely A tg, guy which is the Next generation for people who you know are following at, home BECAUSE tng is like it's basically like Lib chard, future and it's. 01:28:41 Speaker 8: Like are you just wildly Speculating, jack BECAUSE i, REMEMBER i think right when he took, office there was some notorious white kind of all the guys, soyfacing except soyface wasn't a meme yet because he did the he did The. 01:28:53 Speaker 3: Vulcan salute to somebody The vulcan. Event, yeah he totally did the. 01:28:56 Speaker 1: Thing, yeah, no he totally did. This he played that up that you know that because but for. 01:29:03 Speaker 20: People who like believe In Star trek as like a political, ideology they sit there and go, like, well wouldn't it be great if we have like because there were a bunch of episodes in The Next generation where they kind of like crap on capitalism and they say, like, oh We've there's there's one episode where a guy who's like a businessman WAS i don't, know he's like cryogenically frozen or. Something and he gets he gets reanimated in the twenty fourth, century and he starts kind of talking about like business and stuff like, that and And picard is sort of like hoopooing him and, say, oh. 01:29:34 Speaker 9: We've we've outdone we've we've all we've you, know moved beyond such outdated versions of capitol AND i, remember and we don't have those things. 01:29:46 Speaker 1: Anymore, YEAH i. 01:29:47 Speaker 8: Remember it's one of the one and they're, like we serve for the progress of. SCIENCE i remember one of the few EPISODES i have, seen it was like he has he. Intervened it was like someone was always in as a magical goddess who'd blessed this, planet and Like picard has to come in and you, know he reveals that she's a, charlatan because it's like they thought that she'd save them from, destruction but they'd save. Themselves and the way they'd saved themselves is they'd dismantled their backwards industrial economy and moved to an ungrarian socialist economy and this had saved them from. Annihilation and it might be one of the movies actually that it was definitely an EPISODE i remember because. 01:30:26 Speaker 3: It was WHEN i was on. 01:30:28 Speaker 1: Similar to. 01:30:29 Speaker 20: That but but it's it's it's very clear that Like Next generation is extremely anti. Religion it's extremely it's again it's it's just very, communistic it's very. 01:30:41 Speaker 1: Social it's probably like democrat. 01:30:42 Speaker 20: Socialism more than communism, directly because it's this weird idea that, like, oh if you remove, scarcity then everyone's just going to get, along and like The klingons are bad because they just they just don't go along with the rules based order of the. 01:30:57 Speaker 1: Federation and it's it's it's it's just like the globalist future and. 01:31:02 Speaker 20: They they have, this and of course the question comes, up it's like how do You, okay so how do you get rid of the scarcity? Problem and the scarcity problem is of course. Resources so competition for resources is what we have in you in not just THE, us the whole. World, Right so this is why you know wars do tend to break. Out we have scarcity of, land scarcity of, minerals et, cetera et. Cetera, right so how do they get away with? That In Star Trek, magic literally they had to come up with magic call with which is something called the. Replicator and The replicator is this magical device which again they don't even try to explain In Star, trek that just gives you whatever food or whatever like drink or beverage or meal you want at like you, know the snap of your. 01:31:52 Speaker 1: Fingers and of Course picard is always like, gee oh ray you, know and it just fears. 01:31:57 Speaker 20: And it's, like, well what went In like like even if you have a THREE d, printer like you have to put something into. 01:32:03 Speaker 3: It it's it's it's a true perfect matter, converter and, yeah just magical post scarcity. Situation. 01:32:09 Speaker 8: Uh and it's it's so funny BECAUSE i know there's been other works of fiction where they develop the same, thing like oh they have perfect post, scarcity and some of them are interesting because a lot of those, societies the way they portray them is they get like total On, wii like nothing can give them interest or joy. Anymore so like they literally like want to kill. Themselves they want to just. 01:32:27 Speaker 20: Like, well that kind of happens in The expanse, ACTUALLY, ok in The expanse, series Which i'm actually not a fan, of BUT i have read all of. 01:32:34 Speaker 1: It and seen all of. It it's it's a long. STORY i. HAVE i have a love hate relationship with sci. 01:32:38 Speaker 20: Fi as you could, tell they're Like, jack you've seen every episode of The Next, Naration, yes do you like? 01:32:43 Speaker 19: It? 01:32:44 Speaker 1: No but then why did you don't? 01:32:48 Speaker 3: Ask but getting getting? 01:32:50 Speaker 1: Backs and but they so they have the same. 01:32:52 Speaker 20: Thing they have universal basic income On, earth and it's like people just sort of like but it's still like a wastrel kind of like waste of time and space if people don't really have, jobs because you, know it's sort of, like, okay well we have this basic income and yet everything still sucks. Anyway but then Also earth gets destroyed in that series and like nobody seems to. 01:33:12 Speaker 1: Care, again it's a long. 01:33:13 Speaker 4: Story hi, Folks Andrew colvett, Here i'd like to tell you about my friends over At Why. Refi you've probably been hearing me talk About Why refi for some time. 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REAL i find it unlikely he would reveal it that, Way BUT i guess why don't we Ask? 01:34:26 Speaker 3: Jack do you think that aliens are? 01:34:28 Speaker 8: Real especially both alien life generally and intelligent life of any? 01:34:33 Speaker 3: Kind and if, not why? Not we could we could explore. That do you have a belief on that? 01:34:37 Speaker 20: ONE i, Mean i'm open minded on, it RIGHT I I i think it's. POSSIBLE i certainly think it's. POSSIBLE i like the old uh forget what maybe Been Carl sagan or someone else who, said you, know if if there, isn't if there isn't, anything that's an, awful awful big waste of. Space, two you, know and and and when you look at, probabilities you, know the probability of this many planets and galaxies existing in the universe would would tend, to you, know tend to show you that life could have arisen on other planets somewhere out there and we just haven't found. YET i, also you, know this idea of interdimensional type, things that there's higher dimensions that we don't know about and perhaps there's something going. On totally open minded to all that, stuff love reading about, it think it's super. Cool And i'm not one of those people who's, like, oh it's it couldn't possibly. 01:35:29 Speaker 1: Exist so, No i'm not like. 01:35:30 Speaker 20: That but at the same, time you, Know i'm also not really And i'll just say it, Like i'm not really a big believer in this whole like you, know THE UAPs and the government is secretly the secret programs and, stuff AND i Just i'm Not i'm Not AND i say that as like a guy who was literally in the intelligence community. That i'm, Like i've just never seen anything that that strikes me as credible. 01:35:55 Speaker 8: There, YEAH i GUESS i would just lean TOWARDS i, guess, MAN i want to have a more decisive, one since you're a little more on the. Fence IF i had to, Say i'm gonna, Go i'm gonna embrace LIKE i feel like maybe it just hasn't. Happened Maybe i'd say probably no intelligent life out. THERE i kind of go towards what's the big who's the guy who predicted the? Singularity? 01:36:18 Speaker 14: Uh what's his? 01:36:20 Speaker 3: Name, like The singularity is? 01:36:22 Speaker 17: Near? 01:36:22 Speaker 6: Guy it's not for, me is? 01:36:24 Speaker 14: It? 01:36:25 Speaker 3: Uh Ray, Kurtzwild rae Kurts, Wild that's what it. Was ray Kurts. 01:36:27 Speaker 8: Well he had an interesting take where he since he believes in The, singularity he actually would argue humans are the first form of intelligent life that's ever, emerged and he believes it because he thinks kind of the singularity, is you, know super. Intelligence that would then he, thinks we would immediately permeate the whole. Universe we'd kind of turn the whole universe into. Circuitry and his argument is that that's so inevitable if there were intelligent, life that humans must be the first form of intelligent, life because we don't see the evidence of that in our own galaxy or anywhere else in the. Universe and kind Of i'm sympathetic to. THAT i, think you, know there's a Classic fermi, paradox where is? Everybody if it seems like there's a gazillion stars and there's even more planets orbiting those, stars it seems like it should have. Happened AND i think it might really be That, earth, like a habitable earth like planet that can have life that is given enough time to become intelligent life that can then and then that that in turn develops technology that is able to do. THINGS i could lean towards that being the only ones who are out, there but like, YOU i don't. 01:37:31 Speaker 1: Think, well but then there's all the Other. 01:37:33 Speaker 20: Uh the other corollary to that, is of course the great, filter, right The karrashov The kardashov, Scale so which WHICH i, guess what's your great? 01:37:41 Speaker 3: Filter? 01:37:41 Speaker 8: Jack what are what are your top three great filters that are keeping civilization from going to the? 01:37:46 Speaker 1: Stars, well so these are the Great let me explain it for the. 01:37:49 Speaker 20: Audience so the great filter theory is like kind of the response to this that says that, says, okay, well what if there's a problem that exists and this this is sort of going back to that star thinking of of you, know industrial societies and being you, know inherently. Destructive that the great filter is that some for some, reason societies only progress to the point where they're just about to you, know embark on space, travel and then something happens that either destroys the, society destroys the, planet kills all, life or you, know just prevents them from being able to embark on that level of a. Society SO i, mean you, know probably you, know probably just the just nuclear, war something along those. Lines it is Not, Jack, Jack it's. 01:38:36 Speaker 1: Not by the, way, relativity just relativity itself is a huge Problem. 01:38:40 Speaker 8: JACK i, MEAN i THINK i think we can. Agree wouldn't the greatest great filter be be Lib? 01:38:45 Speaker 1: Tarts, yes, exactly just like. 01:38:51 Speaker 8: We know we found Who it's it's like you're reading the archives of like some historian and a lost, civilization and he's like viewing the patterns and he's just, like we found this, civilization and then we found another civilization on this other, planet and all of them destroyed. Themselves and in every single one of, them it was they reached a certain level of development and then they all started soy facing and, dying, dying the things growing out of their heads different colors and, stopping they cease to, reproduce and and all of. 01:39:20 Speaker 20: That you don't, know that reminds me of some of the the, uh those uh what you call the the the mouse you, know the Mouse utopia, experiments where when f when a when a society gets to a certain point of self, sufficiency that it becomes almost like it's it's it's, this this is what we Actually this is the, response by the, way to the replicator argument that when a society has too many, resources when you eliminate the need for resource scarcity or eliminate all resource, scarcity that this actually breaks down society because society is actually governed and along a hierarchy of resource. Distribution and so when when there is no, competition you you get people who check out of, society you get low fertility, rates you get A i'll just say. It they saw a rise in same sex relationships again among the mice in these, experiments and you had people who were constantly worried about or, MICE i should say, mice, mice, mice not people who were constantly worried about their, looks who were trying to looks max as the kids would say these, days and they lend themselves towards essentially destroying their society rather than and it created a behavioral saying where they couldn't even raise kids. Anymore and then the ones who did end up kids had not been raised by parents, themselves and it just essentially destroyed their. 01:40:42 Speaker 1: Society that's a great filter right, there. 01:40:47 Speaker 8: Man Your angelo's. Messages he's telling us about the dark forest. Theory that is that the dark forest theory is that life is all over the, place like every other planet has people on, it but the smart, ones, akay everyone but us realizes that you don't talk to everyone in space because if you, do it's like you're walking through a dark forest full of wolves and you're, screaming hey, everybody and then the wolves. 01:41:10 Speaker 3: Come and eat. 01:41:11 Speaker 14: You that's. 01:41:17 Speaker 3: Dark. 01:41:18 Speaker 6: Wow what was that? 01:41:19 Speaker 20: From is that like the soundtrack To we didn't show so because we're not you, know so we're not stealthing. Ourselves oh, WAIT i just saw in the chat that you put in The fermi. Paradox you, KNOW i wasn't even reading the. Stuff you're right that. That, yeah so it's like it's, like because we're not using our cloaking, systems you, know we're the ones who are going to. 01:41:40 Speaker 1: Get we're the ones who are going to get wrecked when. 01:41:43 Speaker 8: We might be we MIGHT i mean it does feel very like utopian in, hindsight where as soon as we get radio, waves we're just blasting them out into space that we HAVE seti and we're just, saying, hey we're, here is anyone else out? There we're sending The Pioneer probe with those naked people on, it and we put a we Put beethoven on, IT i think we put we put a recording on, it all of, that and then we're sending that out, there and, yeah you can just imagine it gets found by the deep space version of. 01:42:14 Speaker 1: Dude we were just. 01:42:14 Speaker 20: WATCHING i showed my kids the first movie adaptation Of war The world's the nineteen fifties version with like the long the long necks that pop out and the heat rays just like blasting. Everybody and what's interesting about that is like this even comes up in there where they first, say oh my, gosh this is you, know it's first. Contact this is, great and then it's, like you, know and then immediately they just start killing, everybody and it's like and it's, like, yeah that's that's probably something that could. Happen and then the fact though that's so you, know spoiler, alert even though this came out like one hundred years. Ago they get they get killed by human. Bacteria the problem, though, is of, course what if the aliens have Like martian bacteria that we've never experienced before and they kill all of, us which could WHICH i Think Stephen hawking even talked about before that just direct contact with alien life might be enough to kill. 01:43:07 Speaker 8: Us that it would be that would be a darkly interested that would be like a good sci fi horror. THING i, think like there's first contact between two species and that the end would just be they both mutually destroy each other and like just of, disease our own drops dead and like that that's the. Takeaway i've never thought of, that AND i wonder if. 01:43:24 Speaker 1: It's been written that's coming. Out this is like a huge part of. 01:43:27 Speaker 20: IT i read the book and then a while, ago and IF i remember, correctly that that was a huge issue they had where it was, like so it's it's you. 01:43:33 Speaker 1: Know in the, movie it's gonna Be Ryan. 01:43:35 Speaker 20: Gosling but then they so he's like in his pod and then he connects with an alien pod and they're, communicating but they can never they can never leave the. 01:43:42 Speaker 1: Pods because you're worried about. 01:43:44 Speaker 8: That, no that's, interesting and So i'm thinking about what since we're pretaping, this we can't see the emails or, messages But i'm thinking of what has come in when we discussed this. Before AND i know a lot of people they take the point of view that if aliens do. Exist this is actually something we've. Heard tucker's talked about it just the belief things we think our aliens are actually demonic, entities or that just in, general there can't be aliens because they're not mentioned in The bible or scriptures and so they can't exist for that. REASON i GUESS i would push back on. THAT i THINK i would HEAR. C. S lewis said this that there's nothing really innately implausible That god could create non human creatures that are still you could say human in the biblical, sense that they are in soul beings because they have human levels of cognitive, development, wisdom whatever we would believe in that. 01:44:36 Speaker 3: SENSE i. Know i've Also i've mentioned this. 01:44:39 Speaker 8: Before i've read short fiction that even speculates there could be aliens that, exist and because they, exist they also need their own version of the, incarnation which in theory is. Possible people have speculated That christ appears in The Old, testament he's just not identified As. 01:44:55 Speaker 3: CHRIST i. 01:44:56 Speaker 8: Know one take is That methuselah is actually like an in case of the, incarnation Not, Malthus Methusala malchisa dec That malchisa dec is like A christ appearance in The Old, testament or that when the three men Visit abraham that that is The trinity visiting. 01:45:15 Speaker 3: Him it's interesting to speculate. Upon in my. 01:45:18 Speaker 1: Opinion, yeah there's there's also a couple things in The bible in The Old. 01:45:22 Speaker 20: Testament, Again ezekiel's, wheels of, course are is like a common thing that people referred to the wheels within wheels with. Eyes and now some people, say well that it's, angels but then other people point out to, say you, know could could that have been some kind of extraterrestrial being or extra dimensional in this case Being elijah's chariot of, course the chariot of fire That elijah took to. 01:45:47 Speaker 1: Heaven you, know could that have been A? 01:45:49 Speaker 20: Ufo could that have been a? Spacecraft the, nepheline which of course come up In. Genesis you, know these these these sons Of god or humans who made it with some kind of you, know did they mate with fallen angels that turned into you, know that turned into? Something and again you, know of Course tucker has talked about this a lot of. People To Joe rogan has gotten into this Mel gibson that you, know could what we describe as aens just be non human life that's from another plane of? Existence and so WHEN i was talking about interdimensional or extra dimensional earlier, on you, know The bible certainly talks about beings from other planes of, existence ones which are benevolent, angels and ones which are, malevolent which are demons which. 01:46:33 Speaker 1: We would refer. To and so it's it's simply just you, KNOW i would say a point. 01:46:37 Speaker 20: Of view or a matter of perspective as to, say, well would those count as aliens or something like, that because The bible certainly does talk quite a bit about non human. 01:46:47 Speaker 8: Entities, exactly IT'S i think it's WHAT i always would caution people who, say, like, oh The bible says emphatically that there can't be aliens is among the THINGS i would, say, well then what if we find? Them is that going to disprove The bible for? You AND i sometimes mention In, America, yeah The bible. Is that's why someone say that's Why america's on, biblical that's Why america is is a demonic. 01:47:12 Speaker 1: Entity america's, well well The masonic something like. 01:47:17 Speaker 3: That, yeah, yeah it's not. Biblical so they put the Weird mason eye on the on THE us. 01:47:22 Speaker 20: Dollar but, uh ACTUALLY i was messing with a quick quick side. Note but since we're on the, SHOW i might as well, mentioned do you if folks were long term super listeners and ogs might remember that When charlie spoke at the r N c in twenty twenty, four they were doing like theme nights at the r N, c and he was his night was Make America Wealthy, again And, blake you AND i were there, together and and because he spoke that, night they had while he was speaking on the stage behind, him they were they were using like stock image of money and they happened to have the all seeing, eye like directly behind him when he was, speaking AND i remember giving him so much crap about. THAT i was, Like Charlie, Kirk illuminati. Confirmed and he was, Like i'll just say. It he was, like he was, like he was LIKE i asked them about. THAT i, said can we just get like An american flag or? Something and they were so sold on, this you, Know, no it's it's it's, well it's. Money that's a picture of, money that's something on. It and it's, like it's, like, gosh you, know do you guys know how The internet is going to react to? That but, then of, Course, blake what if it was actually The illuminati behind the whole thing to begin? 01:48:42 Speaker 8: With and, MAN i feel Like illuminati conspiracies have really have petered out a. 01:48:48 Speaker 3: Bit that was so. Big, yeah it's totally falling. Out there was so much of, that you. 01:48:52 Speaker 8: KNOW a great historical, NOTE i love the first the first political party In, america AND i think maybe the first political party in what world history to have a political platform explicitly, PUBLISHED i, believe was The Anti Masonic, party The Anti mason conspiracy party that THE us had in the eighteen thirties and FORTIES. 01:49:15 Speaker 3: I think is when they grew out ba IF i remember. 01:49:18 Speaker 8: IT i think The Anti Masonic party even basically evolved into like the same people who were into, it a lot of them were then in The Know Nothing, party which then at of those people went into The Republican. 01:49:32 Speaker 3: Party and so fun Fun american political history, there you. 01:49:37 Speaker 1: Know And i'll certainly put this. 01:49:38 Speaker 20: Out you, know you, Know, catholics it is still on the books In catholic doctrine that you cannot be A catholic in good standing and be a member of The. 01:49:48 Speaker 3: Freemasons you, CAN i think any secret society correct. 01:49:54 Speaker 14: Anti Christ. 01:49:57 Speaker 1: Alex jones joining us all of a. 01:49:58 Speaker 20: Sudden, Well Alex, JONES i remember he said once that the reason The illuminati and you, know the The masons like aren't as powerful as they used to be is that they're just in control of the intel. 01:50:10 Speaker 1: Community now oh. 01:50:13 Speaker 8: Man, yeah you think about the purposes like why why that actually came out is that The masons and their secret meetings were were vectors for anti religious sentiment and it was almost like the secretive Deep state group chats of their, day that you could have these meetings that you would plot like over the, church overthrow monarchy and, nowadays, yeah you could just have that as your your signal chat where you guys coordinate on how to undermind the. 01:50:40 Speaker 20: Trumpanies things did, exist they and they existed for a. Reason and there certainly were conspiracies to overthrow monarchies like we saw. 01:50:48 Speaker 1: Them we saw we saw them happen in real. 01:50:49 Speaker 20: Life and and so and it made sense because if you you, know if you spoke out against the crown when the crown was still in, power like you're you're done, for you were, out you know the same that there are you, know many secret. 01:51:02 Speaker 1: Society it's like it's like there's secret societies In china right. 01:51:06 Speaker 20: Now there are you, know secret societies in In. Russia i'm sure because. Oppositions secret societies In? Russia do you have Any russian? 01:51:15 Speaker 1: Music got? Nothing they got? 01:51:18 Speaker 13: Nothing? 01:51:18 Speaker 3: Heartbreak all, right all, right all? 01:51:19 Speaker 20: Right secret societies in, really, guys really the, Jeopardy secret societies In, mexico. 01:51:39 Speaker 8: Secret societies all over the. Place but you're not allowed to join. That you are Your catholic and good standing. 01:51:44 Speaker 1: Societies freedom At Charlie kirk dot. 01:51:46 Speaker 20: Com and if you're in a secret, society we should we should do like a late night episode. 01:51:51 Speaker 1: Where we do just like Art bell. 01:51:53 Speaker 20: Style if if anyone remembers the old Art Bell coast To, coast, am. 01:51:56 Speaker 3: REMEMBER i think that's still on, air isn't. 01:51:58 Speaker 1: It it's it's on. 01:52:00 Speaker 20: Air but he's he hasn't run it anymore because he has sent it to a higher. Plane George nordi runs. It and and but he used to do these things where he'd be, like he'd be, like all, right time, travelers call. 01:52:11 Speaker 1: In It's Time Traveler. Hour if you're a time, traveler call in and people would call in. 01:52:18 Speaker 3: So good. 01:52:21 Speaker 20: Society send us, email and if you're a time traveler, also please send us your. Email tell us tell us what bets to. Make tell us how to win all the prediction market, stuff you. Know tell us tell us. Everything tell us The Super bowl, winners. 01:52:35 Speaker 1: The rest of. It please do because you know we need to make all the. Money tell. 01:52:39 Speaker 8: Us tell us how the guy who brought, us who started. This tell us How Barack obama is remembered in The chinese language history is that they write about this country two hundred years from. 01:52:49 Speaker 3: Now have you heard? 01:52:51 Speaker 1: That by the, way have you heard? 01:52:52 Speaker 20: That because it's it's now the year of the horse In china That draco malfoy has From Harry potter has now become like the mascot of. 01:53:00 Speaker 3: The year of The. Horse Why Draco malfoy. 01:53:05 Speaker 1: Because, uh like mafu is it means. 01:53:10 Speaker 20: Like that's how you say horse in like horse year or or something In, chinese and so it's it's like the same as his the way his name is. Transliterated so if you, Go i'm dead, serious if you go and look up anything about horse here In, china it's Like Draco malfoy's. 01:53:26 Speaker 8: Everywhere, okay then, yeah apparently it's that his. Name his translation is matterfu and that basically means horse and good, fortune which they need BECAUSE i believe it, SPECIFICALLY i believe it's specifically the year of the fire horse and that is a bad luck omen and that'll be wha like wa yeah fire, yeah because it is specifically that year and it's so severe if you if you, check like the number of berths they'll have will drop by a third because no one wants to have a kid during the fire horse here because it is. 01:54:01 Speaker 3: Inauspicious could you imagine having a kid during the fire horse? Year couldn't be? 01:54:05 Speaker 1: Me couldn't be me all. 01:54:08 Speaker 20: Right but they're telling. Us they're telling us we're at, Time, blake telling us we're at. Time of, Course i've got all the time in the world BECAUSE i don't exist virtually in this, space or DO? 01:54:17 Speaker 1: I PERHAPS i am a time. 01:54:19 Speaker 20: Traveler BECAUSE i am a time, traveler you're hearing me yesterday from. 01:54:24 Speaker 1: Tomorrow. 01:54:25 Speaker 20: Love think about. 01:54:26 Speaker 1: That ladies and gentlemen always go out there and commit more Buck. 01:54:30 Speaker 3: Rock for more on many of these stories and news you can, trust go To charliekirk dot. 01:54:38 Speaker 6: Com