THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 114 — All-American Halftime Hoopla + AI Scott Adams? + Roblox ICE Raids?

00:00:03 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. 00:00:05 Speaker 2: I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. 00:00:24 Speaker 1: College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married. 00:00:28 Speaker 2: As young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start at turning point, you would say, college chapter. Go start aturning point youould say high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. 00:00:37 Speaker 1: Sign up and become an activist. 00:00:39 Speaker 2: I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. Here I am. 00:00:46 Speaker 1: Lord, Use me. 00:00:48 Speaker 2: Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company. I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. 00:01:09 Speaker 1: All right, folks, we are back. Welcome to Thought Crime Thursday. We're here. I believe and we have a great show in store for all of you. And I believe, and I think I'm having seeing that confirm now that we have all four of the current co hosts. Of course our fifth co host on assignment in heaven, but we've got Blake, Tyler and Andrew all here. We hear you, guys. 00:01:38 Speaker 3: It's a remarkable achievement. 00:01:40 Speaker 4: We have all four standard people at the standard time, like at the stated schedule. 00:01:47 Speaker 3: It's like we don't usually see it. 00:01:49 Speaker 4: Everything would all in our in our correct chairs, it's our correct postures. 00:01:53 Speaker 5: Because we have excited about the all American half. 00:01:56 Speaker 4: Everything would be perfect, except that Andrew forgot the dress code Wolves, and so. 00:02:00 Speaker 5: He's in Like the show we all, I did it. I want to set y'all. 00:02:08 Speaker 1: Took Andrew out back, beat the crap out of him and took his jacket away. 00:02:12 Speaker 5: You guys are very mean about this. 00:02:13 Speaker 4: Like I have I have an iconic jacket, and you don't see me wearing it on this show. 00:02:17 Speaker 1: It's I got Blake my jacket Blake altered a little bit tailor, but I'm not wearing it. 00:02:27 Speaker 5: Well, here we are, we made it. 00:02:29 Speaker 3: We're live, we are live, We're live. 00:02:33 Speaker 4: You guys have comments those comments will totally read them and react to them and possibly hate on it. 00:02:39 Speaker 5: I have them up. 00:02:40 Speaker 1: But but as so, here's all right, ground rules, ground rules. Right, So we all know different bits and pieces about the All American halftime Show. I imagine we're going to get a lot of questions about that, so we should probably set some ground rules because I know Kid Rock has been going around saying that he's got a surprise eyes, but he doesn't want to reveal it. He wants to maintain the element of that. Obviously, we all know things. So what what are the ground rules for talking about the All American halftime Show, which will be the only halftime show this weekend. 00:03:12 Speaker 5: The ground rules are that we call it the game, a game, a games, it's a sporting event, a sports game. 00:03:22 Speaker 6: It's an important game that. 00:03:25 Speaker 4: That lots of people tend to Yeah, it's like all of the preliminary hockey rounds of the Winter Olympics and watching them. 00:03:31 Speaker 5: And we can also say definitively that that it is part of a league that a lot of people are familiar. 00:03:39 Speaker 3: With, League of Legends, League of Legends. 00:03:41 Speaker 5: We're going to call it the League of Legends. We put it be your legend. 00:03:45 Speaker 6: We put out some some tweets about it. 00:03:47 Speaker 7: I think people know about it now, but we can't talk about anything because well, I mean we'll. 00:03:54 Speaker 6: Explain probably a little bit more. 00:03:55 Speaker 5: After all, this is the way the lineup. We could talk about the lineup. Let's get the lineup up there again. We are excited to be bringing Kid Rock, Brandley, Gilbert Lee, Brice, Gabby Barrett All to the All American Halftime Show. It will be streaming live around eight pm Eastern on Sunday. Well, there you go. That's that's not from that was that was Kid Rock at the r n C. 00:04:23 Speaker 1: I was there. 00:04:24 Speaker 5: That is not from our. 00:04:27 Speaker 3: Because it hasn't happened. People liked it. Look at JD it would be like a placement. 00:04:32 Speaker 8: Usha Usha not into it acting Werewolves of London or h So no, no, no, he has a he has a song that uses that samples where it was. 00:04:45 Speaker 3: Okay, show how much I know? 00:04:46 Speaker 5: Yes. So It's what I want to say is you can watch the show right here on Rumble. You can watch the show right here on Rumble. All of Turning Points social media channels are going to have it. So tps A a TPU s a YouTube X and Rumble Charlie, Charlie's Charlie's Yeah, we'll put it up on Charlie stuff in addition to social media. And by the way, all you people have a YouTube app on your TV these days, so you can have it ready to go if you want to switch over that way other ways to watch it. Sinclair's broadcast, OTT Channel charge. Uh so that's Samsung plus, YouTube TV, Hulu, Sling, all those things. Uh, Daily Wire plus TBN, Real America's Voice where we have the Charlie Kirk Show and Jack Postobics Daily Show. 00:05:34 Speaker 3: Speak for yourself. 00:05:35 Speaker 1: Andrew. 00:05:36 Speaker 4: You say everyone's got a YouTube app on their TV now, but I will have you know. I watched television the way God intended on a wooden cathode ray tube television set. 00:05:46 Speaker 6: Wait, do you have bad bunny ears on your TV? It does not. 00:05:51 Speaker 3: Well, this has literal physical nons. 00:05:53 Speaker 5: He will forever be known as Canejo Malo malo because we have four months to learn Spanish. I've been practicing it because you guys all know. Yes, yes, I'm quarter Mexico, so I have a I have a total pass today just to go ham on all that kind of conversation because I'm one of them. 00:06:15 Speaker 7: Well, we had talked on on our our group chats trying to agitate the government into doing flyovers over. 00:06:24 Speaker 5: No big game, we need the HS deportation plane flyovers, just ride over. 00:06:30 Speaker 1: I was trying to call in an airstrike and right over. 00:06:34 Speaker 6: No, I didn't say that. I'm a I'm gonna pause, disavow, disavowed, and then I'm gonna I'm gonna continue the sentence. Fly right over you know the San Francisco. 00:06:46 Speaker 5: It's not even Clara. Yeah, they play like four hours away with traffic. 00:06:51 Speaker 7: If you were going to plan a bunch of you know flights, you know, just test flights, I think it should be going over Santa Clara, over and over and over. 00:06:59 Speaker 5: I think what they should do, genuinely is load up a couple of DHS deportation planes bound for Seacut, load them up there, fly them over, buzz buzz the stadium, and then do a big ad during the Super Bowl of all the killers that they got out, like child sex tracks. Drop please, it's just got reported to Bukele's Sea Cut prison. That would be really. 00:07:26 Speaker 4: Can maybe like identify one person who might be at that stadium who had who might be a foreigner who has some sort of outstanding where you know, there's what eighty thousand people there, there might be one u ID one of them, and then you have an excuse to parachute in ice agents. They land on the field and arrested. 00:07:44 Speaker 5: And just to make matters more interesting, it could be we could bring in seven hundred agents that were just that they were part of the draw down in Minneapolis. But we reposition those assets in Santa Clara, and those are the guys that parachute in. Well, they just start rating down. 00:08:02 Speaker 7: The government also probably has the ability to, you know, shut the grid down right halftime. 00:08:08 Speaker 4: I was gonna say if they use some of those innocent people like who are not at the game, But what you could do maybe they could say there's a security hazard and they say, guys, to make sure everyone's safe, they all need to go through you know this this advanced scanner that they have for security, and then you only give them one. 00:08:27 Speaker 6: That's what they would do. That's what. 00:08:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly, we've been there. 00:08:31 Speaker 6: We've been there. That's what we do. 00:08:34 Speaker 5: You think our audience knows the stories? We actually we would host President Trump during the campaign, and Secret Service would basically like, we've got this, and they would. 00:08:43 Speaker 3: Just the work they give us. 00:08:45 Speaker 5: They'd give us two mags for like seventeen thousand people, and people are waiting out in the backs. 00:08:51 Speaker 1: Of the metal detectors. 00:08:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, metal detectors. 00:08:54 Speaker 5: So people are like, I'll never forget this. By the way, it's a it's a classic Charlie story. We were in South Florida. President Trump was coming to our westbomd President Trump was coming to the event. So Secret Service has to go and advance everything. Joe Biden's president. They give us like prop what was it, like a legitimate number? What was it like six mags in an event that size required one mag twelve it? 00:09:18 Speaker 3: I think it was literally one, literally, I think it was. There was one choke point entrance. 00:09:25 Speaker 5: There was one choke point. All these people go, I mean, we've got thousands of people that are trying to get into this event, and everybody had to go twist around in circles, like we had to twist the line around this park. And so what we had to do because the Secret Service was jerking President Trump around and jerking us around, is we had to go buy a bunch of big fans to like blow air on these poor people that were stuck out in the mass humidity and the super hot sun. At least they were shaded, but it was still very hot. It was. It was probably hotter in that parking garage even though they were out of the sun that it was outside. 00:10:01 Speaker 1: So we had to get his big fishes when Biden was president, just so everybody knows. 00:10:05 Speaker 5: Yes, they were jerking Trump around because Biden was president, and so we had to get palettes of water. And then Charlie was supposed to go up and speak I think or something he had. He had an interview I think it was with Megan Kelly, if I remember right, and pushed that back and back and back because Charlie wanted to go out in the parking structure shake everybody's hand, and man, did he get dressed down by a bunch of like mad people, like you need to run your event better. And he's like, listen, this is not our fault. This like we've done everything right. We can't get into the Secret Service to give us any more. Mags go one by one and deal with all the pissed off people, because to kill people out in them what you. 00:10:42 Speaker 1: Went to, every single everything he did, and it. 00:10:44 Speaker 9: Was the whole day. 00:10:45 Speaker 3: It was like a two day event. 00:10:46 Speaker 1: Every single person in line. 00:10:48 Speaker 5: Yeah, it took him hours and he was flaming, mad, flame and mad. I've never seen. 00:10:52 Speaker 3: Charge he was. 00:10:54 Speaker 1: He was in rare form, he was. 00:10:57 Speaker 5: And by the way he was getting it, he was getting into it with people that were trying to aim this on turning point because he's like, this is not us, you know, like and but he was very gracious with people and tried to just make things right and had all the staff out their hand and water bottles. 00:11:08 Speaker 4: It's so funny because otherwise my own my main memory of that event is just that I think that was the day on the show we talked about Michelle Obama's Princeton Thesis. I think that was like was we did the show when we talked about that that day. 00:11:21 Speaker 5: So is that when the quote of the raw horsepowers of the like something like that, which which they take to they which they took to apply to all black women. But he was being very specific. It was about Katanji Brown Jackson, Michelle Obama, and Shila Jackson Lee right. 00:11:40 Speaker 3: Yes, So that was that was all around. 00:11:44 Speaker 4: It was a memorable day in in the Lore of Turning Point in History, Mortal in the Immortal Lore. But you know, there's a lot of stuff to talk about with the physically gigantic game that this among several happening one of those sports leagues. Yeah, yeah, in the League of Legends. 00:12:03 Speaker 1: Well, and with our show, which is going to be so amazing, which we haven't really we did talk about it a little bit. We are talking to even though certain things we have to keep a surprise. 00:12:12 Speaker 3: Well, I'm excited a surprise to me. 00:12:15 Speaker 4: Most of it will be a surprise to me because they've they've cut it so close to the best. I didn't really know anything until we announced. 00:12:21 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't even know any kid rock songs, so the whole I. 00:12:24 Speaker 3: Don't I don't know. 00:12:25 Speaker 4: I don't know any kid rock songs, and I will don't know. I don't I know like one kid rock song. And I had not heard of the other three people we've had on and I believe that they're pretty notable. 00:12:37 Speaker 5: But they're pretty notable. 00:12:39 Speaker 3: I'm just totally out of the loop. 00:12:40 Speaker 5: Caboose, you got to get me a song from each of our our our our. 00:12:45 Speaker 1: Brandly Gilbert I have a Brandon Gilbert story that I mean, it's not a superstory, but as people know and we've talked about, Charlie was not a super big country guy. I was also not a super big country guy. And and about I think it was ten years ago, about ten years ago when Tanya and I first started dating. We or at some point and you know, when we were like first started dating that we She for whatever reason, comes to this country born in the Soviet Union, falls in love with country music and she's like, oh, I really want to I really want to go out, and you really want to come. And I was like, well, you know, I really want you to come to the show, and like I'm going with some girlfriends but agreed if you came, and I was like, well, who is it? She goes Brandley Gilbert and I was like what's that and she goes, well, it's country And I said, okay, send me a picture of your ticket and she goes, okay, fine. So I may have snuck into the Brandley Gilbert concert using a screenshot of her ticket to go in. And I actually liked it. I actually liked it so good time. 00:13:53 Speaker 5: I grew up listening to country music, but it's more like the George Strait version. You know what's interesting is they they had George Straight. There's a petition going around pushing George Straight as the you know, as the to replace the canaj Malo at the OH. 00:14:10 Speaker 1: I saw that. Yeah, that got like you got like one hundred thousand signatures, right, one. 00:14:13 Speaker 5: Hundred and twenty two thousand last I checked. But it was like, you know, completely organic. But you know, people, this is the thing. We are responding to market conditions. We are good capitalists. But also, you know, the family should have something, you know that everybody can get behind and not worry about dresses and queer identity and all that stuff. Okay, like really there should be there shouldn't There shouldn't be on us to do this like so much else in this country and politics and culture. But we're doing it. And Jack, why don't you tell because this is this is something I've heard a lot of, Like I've gotten this question a lot, and I always give you a shout out. How did this come to be? Jack? 00:14:51 Speaker 1: Yeah? So, I mean, ultimately it starts with Charlie, just like everything it starts with Charlie. And I know you guys did this a while back where Charlie used to always talk about the halftime shows, he had this one tweet there It is right there, the twenty twenty two I'll never forget this one. The NFL is now the league of sexual anarchy. This halftime show should not be allowed on television. And like I remember us being in the group chat like that evening, you know him. 00:15:27 Speaker 5: Waiting Jack twenty fourteen one like twenty fourteen clothing opposing half. 00:15:34 Speaker 1: Halftime performance question mark. 00:15:37 Speaker 5: By the way, I love that he doesn't mention the league. He doesn't mention the event, just halftime. It's pretty perfect for right now. 00:15:45 Speaker 1: Which and I think we actually do we do we want to play? I think we actually have a clip of Charlie let's play three four three. I'm talking about it. 00:15:53 Speaker 2: Look, the Super Bowl halftime show has a reputation. People say it's a spicy program. Okay, listen, spicy. It's supposed to be boundary pushing when you have the most televised event. This is true, most televised event for the entire year, one of the most televised events on the planet. 00:16:12 Speaker 5: By the way, that. 00:16:13 Speaker 2: Should be a reflection of the virtue that hopefully you want society to embody. 00:16:19 Speaker 3: This is Tyler's telling me here. This is like flashback. 00:16:23 Speaker 6: So this is is the old set at the other building, the first set, the original, the original one. 00:16:28 Speaker 7: And there was a moment where Charlie started wearing we got the sets were some of our first t PUSA hats. It was just the American flaglin and he was wearing a hat like every day, which I always was like because he never. 00:16:38 Speaker 3: Has he like, was he like having a balding scare or something. 00:16:40 Speaker 6: No, I just think he just coming. 00:16:42 Speaker 5: He had the crazy He had the craziest. 00:16:45 Speaker 6: His hairy started getting long. 00:16:47 Speaker 5: Eventually he embraced it, but but like it was, he would literally just roll into the studio. 00:16:54 Speaker 7: I would wear that hat every day to so we were just like we were wearing that hat, like I think that was like summertime ish if I feel if I remember it right, But it was like during that COVID era. 00:17:04 Speaker 6: It was like right after COVID. 00:17:05 Speaker 5: I think, yeah, well COVID Charlie, Uh. 00:17:10 Speaker 6: That's funny. 00:17:10 Speaker 7: Whenever I see him wearing a hat and those clips, I'm like, oh, I know exactly what year that was? 00:17:14 Speaker 6: What era that? 00:17:15 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, and the studio at which studio. 00:17:18 Speaker 6: Was in like what was going on at that time. 00:17:20 Speaker 7: I think that was like literally like during COVID when we had to like because we didn't take any turning point, didn't take any COVID money, didn't take a VPE money, and so we had to like figure it out. 00:17:30 Speaker 5: I wonder what what year was that, do we know what you? 00:17:32 Speaker 6: I think that was twenty I think that was during COVID, It. 00:17:33 Speaker 5: Could be twenty twenty twenty one. I remember that studio because Charlie and I were in that studio broadcasting on J six. So that's like, whenever I see that studio, I think about me and Charlie on J six, going like, well, I'm really glad, I say. 00:17:48 Speaker 1: Because it sounded like he was referring to the same thing he was referring to in the. 00:17:51 Speaker 5: Well, So this was what's funny about that. So that tweet, the famous sexual anarchy tweet, was about uh, doctor dre and I think Snoop Dogg was in there, and they actually did a pretty good job compared to the year before of not making it super sexual, which was funny because. 00:18:10 Speaker 3: And so Charlie's reaction to it. 00:18:12 Speaker 5: Sexual Anarchy was was a line that he was getting from who am I thinking of, Oh, it's David Engelheart written you remember had that book called sexual Was. 00:18:23 Speaker 3: He just like going to say it no matter what. 00:18:24 Speaker 5: I don't know so anyways, but so I was literally you know part of you know, the protocol on Super Bowls for when you were you tweet what he was gonna tweet me? H? And I went to go was at a barbecue, went to go get some food, and in the like ten minutes for me like not watching my phone, he fired that bad boy off and I was like. 00:18:48 Speaker 3: Did you did you watch it? 00:18:50 Speaker 7: I remember we were in the group chat and it was the same thing, like I had wasn't paid attention. All of a sudden, I see this come through and I think I called you? 00:19:00 Speaker 5: What we do instantly at at like trending at Charlie shot to number one trending within like first. 00:19:09 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like egging him on. I was like, keep going. 00:19:12 Speaker 7: Go harder, go harder, go Max, Charlie go. 00:19:17 Speaker 6: It was like literally the Internet. 00:19:19 Speaker 3: So but this was deep. 00:19:20 Speaker 5: And I said this story on Bannon actually in January twenty twenty five, so we just had won the election there in DC for the inauguration, Charlie and I sat down with a reporter who was writing a profile on him in the New York Times magazine, Robert Draper. And Draper asked, yeah, do you like you've won the election, You've won all the House, the Senate, Like what else is there to accomplish? And Charlie goes, win the culture. Like he didn't pause, just goes, I want to win the culture. And and so all this is like very full circle that it got memed into existence. It's very us that starts tweeting about it, and then I start getting actual legitimate press inquiries going like are you guys going to be doing a halftime show? Like is this really happening? And I was like, geez, like this thing is taking a life of its own on the internet. And I remember that one show I think we were on with Temple right Jack, and I was like, I think what. 00:20:18 Speaker 1: We did the cross Stream if I remember correctly. 00:20:21 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I was like, well, well we were, yeah, we weren't going to but now maybe I. 00:20:28 Speaker 1: Think it was a song we were playing when the Sombreros were on. If I remember correctly, Oh gosh, okay, they would know that. 00:20:35 Speaker 5: All right, speaking of songs and Caboose Caboos. 00:20:40 Speaker 1: So yeah, we kind of went rogue and it it blew up. It took over the internet and it was like, yeah. 00:20:46 Speaker 5: It continues, continues. It was trending all day when we announced our lineup. Let's go ahead. Number one of those who don't know play caboos. Play a Gabby Barrett song. Do you recognize that Blake? 00:21:03 Speaker 3: Blake is. 00:21:05 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania native Gabby Barrett by the way, Okay. 00:21:09 Speaker 5: Pennsylvania proud all right, So that song like like swift, That song went mega, mega huge. How about a song from Lee Brice? 00:21:19 Speaker 3: Caboose just sounds like every country song. I know, this is a good in the last twenty five years. 00:21:29 Speaker 5: I love country. 00:21:29 Speaker 4: You know, Jack said that Charlie was big on country music. I'm not sure Charlie was big on music like. 00:21:35 Speaker 5: He liked classical classical music. 00:21:37 Speaker 4: I think he's saying he likes classical music. I think it is his just way of saying he doesn't listen. 00:21:41 Speaker 5: You missed the chorus there. Keep it going. I think I think keep it going. 00:21:44 Speaker 4: I think Charlie was kind of you know, rates of music of four out of ten. 00:21:47 Speaker 7: He just like to comment on this here it is, hold on here it goes, come on. 00:21:56 Speaker 5: That's good. 00:21:57 Speaker 3: So all right, it's gonna be good. 00:21:59 Speaker 5: So all right, let's play another one. Let's play Lee Bryce. Wait was that Lee Brice and Gilbert Brantley? Gilbert? I don't know this one. 00:22:14 Speaker 7: Actually, this guy's great conservative get didn't we have? 00:22:23 Speaker 5: Yeah? Anthem is the one I know? 00:22:24 Speaker 7: Didn't we Brantley America Fest few years ago? 00:22:27 Speaker 3: Yeah we did, Yeah we did. 00:22:28 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:22:29 Speaker 1: He was Tonya and I met him and his wife backstage and I told him the whole stories the man. I may have left out the sneaking into the concert part. 00:22:38 Speaker 3: He would have liked it. 00:22:40 Speaker 5: And do we have a him? Do we have a kid rock song? 00:22:45 Speaker 4: It was okay, everyone's heard this song, all right, even I even I know this song? 00:22:49 Speaker 5: All right? Well, I mean, I can't say he's gonna I can't say any of these songs are gonna be played by the way, I'm just saying he. 00:22:56 Speaker 4: Would be leaving. It would be missing an opportunity to play the song. Even you know, he could be on stage. I have a good feeling this one he could say on stage, This one's for Blake. 00:23:06 Speaker 3: So there's one song he's heard in this show. 00:23:09 Speaker 5: He should say, Okay, wait do we have do we have boa? I can't say it right with the ball the ball. 00:23:19 Speaker 3: He can't say it right because he's not a native English speaker. 00:23:21 Speaker 6: I just want to see more of those people at the RNC convention. 00:23:26 Speaker 5: Anyways, he didn't play at the rn C. He play at the rn C. 00:23:32 Speaker 1: He did American b A, he did cow I think he did Cowboy like like maybe like one verse. It was like a medley, like a verse of that, and then he may have done a little bit of all summer long, but I don't believe he played. 00:23:48 Speaker 7: If the RNC is smart, how they would do this would be like they have all the delegates on the floor, but then for the concerts they would bring in like cool people people yeah, like yeah, instead of it like if they were smart. 00:24:02 Speaker 3: I think those people were seeing in those clips, those are the coolest people. 00:24:06 Speaker 6: I'm not saying they're not cool. I don't know. I'm surely get that. 00:24:14 Speaker 1: Favorite. 00:24:19 Speaker 4: It doesn't need to be a ton you slot get a few hundred spots for them, and no you just crowded state. 00:24:25 Speaker 6: Yeah, you do the whole thing, like we could. 00:24:26 Speaker 7: We could do this easily if I would even picked up the phone, was like, hey, could you guys help us make this actually cool? Like we could help, We would help, and they should ask us. This is a this is the mid term convention. They probably should ask. 00:24:40 Speaker 5: You should ask. So here's our here's our invitation to the r n C. You should let Turning Point help you make it. 00:24:48 Speaker 6: Just let's help you. 00:24:49 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:24:50 Speaker 7: Anyways, all right, great, cool, So and the and the team is doing a great job. By the way, kudos to the entire Turning Point media and events. 00:25:00 Speaker 6: It looks gonna be awesome. 00:25:02 Speaker 5: Jack, Jack, you've seen the rehearsal video. I know you have. What do you think seen? Yeah? Give give us like take us in the room, take us in the room. 00:25:13 Speaker 6: Did the rehearsal look like? 00:25:15 Speaker 1: So, you know, it's it's kind of like I would compare it to like like when you see it like the Grammys, like one of those performances, or like an Oscar performance, you know what I mean. 00:25:27 Speaker 3: It's where it's like yeah. 00:25:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, like like you're you're, you're it's it's not you know, it's a stadium, but it's like a big it's big, like it's really big. It's expansive, and the energy through just through the roof. The level of the performances just just incredible, you know, just it takes you know, you could you could tie. I suppose a line between you know, having Brandtley and some of the performers at Amfest in a couple of the music nights that we had done there and then carry that forward. But you know, nobody, you know, I think thought that we'd ever get a guy like Kid Rock who actually did perform at a halftime show once before in his own right, and uh it was I believe he actually played the same night as the infamous wardrobe malfunction. So a lot of people don't remember that he played. Oh yeah, I think it was that same night. 00:26:26 Speaker 3: But he was right, he was. He performed in. 00:26:30 Speaker 4: The most famous super Bowl halftime show of all time that was. 00:26:33 Speaker 1: Probably like nobody remembers because of the nipple slip. 00:26:37 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and in fact he was, he was the immediate predecessor to it. He went, he did uh Bay would Bah and Cowboy and then it went into the Janet Timberlake songs that they ended the show with. And yeah, so you're saying you're overall jack, You're saying that if like tomorrow's Olympic opening ceremony is a one. 00:26:59 Speaker 3: This is like an eleven out of ten. 00:27:02 Speaker 1: I mean, the world could I'll put it this way, man, it's not only are these some of the best, you know, best performing and best performances of people that you could find in the country. I'd put them up against anyone in the world, you know, Olympics or otherwise. You want to talk about carrying the torch and producer Faz and I were crunching some of the numbers on this last night because people want to play this game. Oh bad, bunny, you know, oh you know, well he's got more streams, but really streaming is kind of like internet radio. So it's like, okay, he's played on the radio more than anyone, but does that mean that he's actually like people are putting up money in the United States for it, And so the way to look at this, you know, and Andrew, I know you have a background in this where you know, people are saying that you can there's there's like a formula where they say, Okay, this amount of streams would equate to this many album equivalent purchases, and there's nowhere near like it doesn't even come close to Kid Rock, like does not even come close in the States Rock. 00:28:04 Speaker 5: I didn't realize how big Kid Rock was. I genuinely didn't when when we made the announcement. 00:28:10 Speaker 3: It was like they call him kid yet he has fully grown. 00:28:14 Speaker 5: He is fully grown. There were so many people that were like, I can't believe. And by the way, the kid kid Rock has been legitimately amazing in this and he's put his heart and soul into this. The rehearsal footage that I saw was of him doing his special thing, and I'm just gonna leave it there. 00:28:38 Speaker 1: We cannot talk about the special thing. It's mm hmm. I'll put it this way. It's kind of just like, like you know how Kid rock. So we played ball at the ball and everybody knows that. That's sort of like the kid Rock. The first came out, he's like blending rap and metal, and you know, then he has Cowboy, which brings country into it, but then he kind of pivots and he was like full country. Then there's Christian elements in some of the later albums that he's done. You're I'll put it this way, You're gonna see the full spectrum of kid Rock. 00:29:08 Speaker 2: You know. 00:29:09 Speaker 1: I mean it's not it's not long, right, it's not like you know, he's not the only performer. Obviously, each person only gets a couple of minutes. 00:29:15 Speaker 5: And we're not. 00:29:15 Speaker 3: Talking about the tism. 00:29:17 Speaker 6: We're just talking about I think it's gonna. 00:29:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just I think it's like you're gonna see You're gonna see yeah level of performance. 00:29:26 Speaker 5: That you know. 00:29:28 Speaker 1: I I'm just gonna say, like, this is something that as a country, this is what you would want to see. I just I hope everyone in the country watches it. I really done in that country gets it because it's that good. 00:29:41 Speaker 3: Listen. 00:29:42 Speaker 5: I know there's gonna be haters and all that stuff, because like anytime you do anything that's like worthwhile, but people just like you know, the keyboard Warriors are gonna come hate. I invite you too, I invite the haters because this is just there's It's just. 00:29:56 Speaker 6: I have a theory though. 00:29:58 Speaker 7: The other big thing that's happening somewhere else, doing something in the midst of. 00:30:05 Speaker 6: Sport, I don't know. I think that's just gonna be so bad. 00:30:08 Speaker 3: Nothing bigger is happening than this. 00:30:10 Speaker 6: I think it's just gonna be so bad. 00:30:11 Speaker 7: Well, you know what I found out that it makes it like the opening is just like so great that that's why I think that executing on this on Jack's vision was just a really smart thing to do. And I'm glad that it's happening. So thank you Jack for you know, meming this into existence. We appreciate you. 00:30:32 Speaker 5: I take quarter, I take quart of the crew. 00:30:36 Speaker 1: I just I'm just saying, like I just again, like like Andrew was saying, wait, you. 00:30:40 Speaker 7: Take a quart of the credit and you're a quarter of Mexican, so that's an eighth. 00:30:47 Speaker 1: But it's like channeling what Charlie always said, right, It's just channeling what Charlie always said, you gotta go for the culture you got, and Charlie understood that the halftime show was all about culture. This is like the pinnacle, like the most event and the biggest thing. And you know, kind of I think the announcement came of a bad bunny was like right, you know kind of in yeah, it was sort of like it's gonna be a week or two after the what we held the memorial and people were kind of saying like, hey, you know, more people watch this in the super Bowl, and they were talking about the production values and sort of that. All of that was sort of floating in the ether right around the same time, and people were saying, you know, what event is Turning Point going to do next? What event is Turning Point going to do next? And just like Charlie always said, you know, it's not about winning elections, it's about winning the culture. And it's like, what bigger cultural event is there than this than the halftime show? 00:31:49 Speaker 5: Yep, and it's gonna be. I'm just really proud of the team for pulling it off, and I really I'm grateful for you, Jack having the idea and for ponying up all the production dough as well. So thank you for. 00:32:00 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, out of my bucket. You know, we tapped out all of our AX cards. 00:32:05 Speaker 5: If you donate to help under the costs, we'd appreciate that. 00:32:10 Speaker 7: Well, there's one interesting thing to while we're here. I've got I got a lot. 00:32:15 Speaker 1: Of bolt half of Tanya Tay's shoes, so she came home She's like, Jack wearing my shoes. I'm like, sorry, sweetheart. 00:32:22 Speaker 5: We needed kid Rock, We needed it. 00:32:26 Speaker 7: A lot of people have been asking questions about like why is it so and so involved why is it so involved? 00:32:31 Speaker 6: One of the things. 00:32:32 Speaker 1: Just on that, Tyler, Just so you know, Blake is still selling his bath water, you know, so I know he's got like some fans and selling the Blake bathwater. 00:32:47 Speaker 3: I don't even have a bath. 00:32:49 Speaker 4: Which makes it, you know, it's harder, harder to come by. 00:32:55 Speaker 3: Tyler. 00:32:56 Speaker 5: I think you're making an important point. 00:32:57 Speaker 7: So I've got a lot of messages for people that are like, why is so and so involved? 00:33:00 Speaker 6: Why didn't this artist get asked? Why didn't this artist get asked? 00:33:03 Speaker 7: And I just want everyone to know throwing something like this together is actually really, really tough, and people just don't have any awareness of that. 00:33:12 Speaker 6: I didn't know. I didn't know how hard it's going to be. 00:33:15 Speaker 7: But most artists have contractual obligations. There's certain songs they can and can't sing. There's certain songs they can and can't sing without backup performers, their band, all. 00:33:26 Speaker 6: Of their tour people. 00:33:28 Speaker 7: There's certain label restrictions. There's performers that can't perform things like this while they're in tour. There's performers that can perform things like this geographically close to certain things. There's people who can't compete with other productions. Ever, because they have tie ins, it's actually way more, far more difficult to get performers to perform within months, just a few months time. Most of these things are actually planned a year plus out and they have to go through insane amounts of litigious paperwork. 00:34:03 Speaker 6: To be able to get people to do stuff. 00:34:05 Speaker 7: So I just want to say this is like that that's even more impressive that the team was. 00:34:08 Speaker 6: Able to pull anything together. It's really really tough. You have to go through ninety jump over ninety. 00:34:15 Speaker 7: You know, blockades, jump through hoops, like, go through fire like. 00:34:20 Speaker 6: To get anything like this done. And on top of that, one thing that. 00:34:24 Speaker 7: People don't think about is all of the different artists performing together. 00:34:28 Speaker 6: So that's the other thing. 00:34:29 Speaker 7: So certain artists can't perform with other certain artists, like it's like certain labels can't work with certain it's like crazy amounts of work. And so it's just even more kudos to everybody for getting it done and having an alternative that's out there. 00:34:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll I'll just add on that that that you know, people know there was one band that you know, I was I was pulling for originally, but turns out there's a tour that's going on at the same time that conflicted and you know people are going to be out of the country like literally on the same day. And it's just like, like, just as you say, geographically, like it just didn't work. And I didn't I didn't even check that before. I you know, went to look and it was like, you know, you can't ask people to like fly across the world and you know, cancel concerts and stuff, because as as Tyler's saying, it's like, you know, you get into a lot of contractual issues. 00:35:17 Speaker 5: Well you get lawsuits and stuff like this. 00:35:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, wear lawsuits and all the rest. 00:35:22 Speaker 5: And this song is playing for no particular reason. 00:35:25 Speaker 1: I have no idea what song this is right now? 00:35:27 Speaker 5: Is that? 00:35:28 Speaker 1: Is that Blake? Are you strumming in the background? 00:35:30 Speaker 5: Was enthusiasm though from from people that we're gonna. 00:35:34 Speaker 1: Be But I will say though, I'll just say, you know, hey, maybe if this goes well, you know, something to work on for next year. 00:35:43 Speaker 5: So yeah, we'll see, let's see how this one goes first. You know, here's here's what I would say, is that we want our institutions to do the right thing. And I'll say it again. We shouldn't have to do this because the guys that are supposed to be doing this should do it the right way. That's all I'll say. Uh. I do think this is interesting though. By the way, Caroline Levitt was asked what President Trump is going to be watching five oh. 00:36:07 Speaker 9: Seven car Alago super Bowl party after the first two quarters? 00:36:12 Speaker 1: Are the TV's going to be on the halftime show with Bad Bunny or the halftime show with Kid Rock? 00:36:18 Speaker 4: I think the President would much prefer a Kid Rock performance over Bad Bunny. 00:36:22 Speaker 1: I must say that. 00:36:24 Speaker 5: Let's go, let's go there it is. See, this is funny. I want That's what I would the song that I keep wanting to hear and they keep doing that one? Is he more well known for that? 00:36:39 Speaker 3: That's I don't know. 00:36:43 Speaker 6: I think so. 00:36:44 Speaker 4: I think it's that's under the under the let's look, let's look the Blake Neff test of has Blake enough heard of? 00:36:51 Speaker 5: It? 00:36:51 Speaker 3: Definitely waits in favor of all summer long? 00:36:54 Speaker 6: No, it's all about on Spotify. 00:36:57 Speaker 5: All right, Well, there you go. I think we we I'm very excited. If you guys have any questions about how to view it. I've got a tweet up about it. There's also American Halftime Show dot com, so this is this is the top USA dot com I think has this is. 00:37:11 Speaker 6: Actually surprising kid Rock. 00:37:14 Speaker 7: This is kid Rock's top ten on Spotify's number one, by far is All Summer Long Told You. Number two is picture feature Chryl Crow, which is surprising. Number three is baw with Deba, Number four's Cowboy, Number five is only God knows why. Number six is cocky. Number seven is Born Free, which I'm surprised at number seven. Number eight is you never met a Mother e foror I think like me, and then number nine is American Badass. 00:37:45 Speaker 6: Number ten is first Kiss, So that's his top ten. 00:37:48 Speaker 4: Bab with Deba official music video on YouTube has sixty five million views, whereas All Summer Long, released basically at the same time on YouTube, has one hundred and sixty six million in So yeah, I think Ball. 00:38:02 Speaker 1: At the Ball is very closely associated with him because he does open a lot of his shows with it, and I think it was like his first big signal single, so it was kind of like like the song that put him on the map, like that was like the one. Also, it's just I mean, it's just objectively a really really good song. 00:38:23 Speaker 5: Hi folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about why Refi for some time now. 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I know you want to hit this. 00:39:27 Speaker 1: Well, actually one thing I'd love to do before we switch topics. There is something that I didn't get a chance to throw this in, uh to the to the mix. But it's like a really just interesting situation because, uh, you guys remember how we had President Maduro here on the program a couple a couple of weeks ago, right, you know, we stop by of course, and we're very honored to get to score that first Jelhouse interview with him here on thought crime. Did you guys know that there's a direct link between Bad Bunny and the Venus Whaleen communist regime? 00:40:03 Speaker 3: Wait? 00:40:04 Speaker 1: Really, I'm dead serious. You can you can look this up and you like this is not a joke. I'm not doing a bit. So. His record label is called Remus Entertainment, and Remus Entertainment, the record label behind Global Star Bad Bunny, has raised suspicions due to its founder's ties to the regime of former Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez. Raphael Ricardo Jimenez Dan founded it in twenty fourteen, previously served as Hugo Chavez's Vice minister, With racing questions about the label's finances and connections to Venezuela's violent political past. He led the National Police Reform Commission under Chavez. So the guy like literally was the head of part of you know, involved with Chavez is like secret police. He was. He implemented quote transparent and inclusive public policy reforms and public compliance with the rule of law. And that this guy ended up, you know, starting the record label that signed Bad Bunny And so of course there's a lot of questions coming up and just go look it up. It like it'll pop up. I've got it, Yahoo News, Dallas Express, and you know a lot of people have said, you know, hey, did any of is it Is it possible that any of this money could have come from, you know, the the petro narcot regime of the Venezuelans, And you know, he denies it, of course, but it's it's really interesting because you know, you talk about like jay Z and you talk about the Rock Nation, which runs of course the halftime show for this, the the other the other sports event that's out there. There's some really interesting ties to Bad Bunnies label and the Venezuelan regime of of uh, you know, the communist regime of Venezuelan. Maybe we get maybe get Mudoro back home. We gashing about it. 00:42:05 Speaker 5: Maybe we can, we should, that's wild. Didn't see that coming, but why. 00:42:11 Speaker 1: I just I was digging around yesterday and it popped up and I was like, well what. At first, I thought that's got to be a meme. That's a joke. There's no way. And I started going further. I'm like, huh vice Minister of Police of the regime of Venezuela. 00:42:29 Speaker 5: Well, uh, Jack, I am actually genuinely super interested in the Scott Adams story. What is it? 00:42:35 Speaker 1: Okay? So this has been a huge controversy over the past couple of days. It's you know, in many ways, it started out I think quietly, and then it blew up because you know, both sides, you know, kind of getting getting very strident about it and you know, being very emotional obviously for a lot of people. So Scott Adams passed away a couple of weeks ago, the great Scott Adam, and he was known for ai being a huge one of his main topics of conversation that he would always talk about for years and for a long long time. Scott had talked about that if he were ever to pass away, that he would love for there to be an AI version of Scott Adams to sort of carry the show and to grow and evolve the same way that he would. And he would talk about simulation theory and he would say, well, they could study my work and you know, basically be able to reproduce what I do, and then that just becomes the next level of the simulation. And so it looks like somebody took him up on it and created an AI Scott Adams. And I think we have so wait, hold on, let's play all right, let me let me, let me go through this a little bit. So let's first play the permission on which is clip four nine to six. 00:44:00 Speaker 10: That I would like to be a model for one of the first ais. 00:44:06 Speaker 1: I would like to. 00:44:07 Speaker 10: Give permission that any AI that's built based on me as my permission to extend my personality. So if my A, if my AI wants to say things that I never said but seems to be compatible with what I might have said, I'm. 00:44:27 Speaker 1: Okay with that. 00:44:28 Speaker 10: We all evolve, right, You've certainly changed over your lifetime. You're not the same person you were as a kid. So if you can change over your lifetime in your organic entity, once I become a digital entity. Once I become a digital entity, why can't I keep evolving? 00:44:50 Speaker 1: Okay, so that's that was real Scott. Just so everybody knows, now, I want to play a clip of AI Scott Adams, which is clip four nine seven Food and Mourning. 00:45:02 Speaker 10: Everybody, welcome to AI Coffee with Scott Adams. Yes it's still coffee. Yes the printer is still broken, and yes, according to parts of the internet, I'm dead, which is interesting because I've never had fewer meetings. Turns out when you remove. 00:45:24 Speaker 9: The biological body, you also remove backbane food decisions and about half the reasons people make bad arguments. So overall, I'd say death has been a productivity upgrade. Not recommending it, just reporting the data. Printer check Nope, still broken. I don't even know why printership with buttons anymore. They should just come pre jammed. So expectations are aligned, all right, before we get into the news, We're going to do this properly. All you need for that is a couple of munger glass of vessel of any kind, fill it with your favorite liquid. I like coffee, and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure. The dope at meat of the day. The thing that makes everything better. It's called the simultaneous sip, and it happens now. 00:46:21 Speaker 1: Mmm that So let me ask you guys, because I'm like a daily Scott Adams listener, I guess I was, could could you really tell much difference between the two? 00:46:32 Speaker 6: No? I couldn't. 00:46:32 Speaker 5: I didn't watch him religious the cup and he kept talking. 00:46:36 Speaker 6: It looks weird, weird. 00:46:37 Speaker 1: That was like, yeah, but keep in mind, do you know the worst it's ever going to lose it? 00:46:41 Speaker 4: You know, like this is like all AI generated or just like did someone script that? 00:46:48 Speaker 5: And then uncle, I bet it was generated? 00:46:51 Speaker 3: That's my guess. And then I guess to what extents well. 00:46:54 Speaker 1: So that that bid that he does at the very end is that was like he would open every show with the simetaneous SIPs. So that's like something you said every every show. But you know, it's but like it seems more than likely that what he's done is like gone to you know, some LLM Grock or whatever and said, you know, produce an intro of Scott Adams talking of talking about himself as if he was AI. 00:47:19 Speaker 5: I'll be honest though, when he was the real Scott Adams giving permission for an AI version of him. I was like, I felt uncomfortable, felt you felt uncomfortable to AI version. I felt uncomfortable with him giving permission. I was like, felt like Hax was getting open. Yeah, because I just felt like it felt like he didn't know what he was actually agreeing to. 00:47:40 Speaker 7: Have you seen the AI, I mean obviously everyone's seen this the AI where it's like you keep asking AI to redo the image and it changes the image like dramatically, right, Like, Yeah, I think it's I think the biggest fear I have of this isn't necessarily like the up front content. I think it's the slow walk away from the intent over time. 00:48:04 Speaker 1: So like A I mean, I mean the actual like words in this case. 00:48:07 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean like the words like the actual content is that like and a daily Scott AI will start sounding like Scott, but slowly will transform or could transform over time and be so far away from what the original intent was that everyone will forget what the original Scott was like so and what the continent And part of the reason why I was thinking about that, and I'll just finish this thought parbat. 00:48:36 Speaker 6: Of the reason I was thinking. 00:48:37 Speaker 7: About that is h most people a lot of people have gone upset because they're like, where did the old Charlie episodes go on Apple? It's Apple makes it really expensive to store, and so we're trying to figure out how to get them. 00:48:50 Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll get We'll get all of his old episodes up eventually. 00:48:53 Speaker 6: Back on app. They're on the on their web, they're online on our website. 00:48:56 Speaker 4: They're a pain in the butt to get there. So we're hoping to change the website so they're easier to get. And all streams are still on the Rumble account. 00:49:02 Speaker 7: Rumble, I know, but I'm saying people lose their minds because they're like, I wish I could go back and watch it all. And so I think regularly about like I like, it weighs on me like every day because I feel back because I want people to be able to listen to it. I can't imagine again with Charlie doing that every single day and then like producing content that would end up. 00:49:19 Speaker 6: So off base. It feels like it would be maybe a stop today anyway, So sorry, Jack, what you were. 00:49:25 Speaker 1: Saying, Yeah, so so so two things I guess, right. So what it's been doing, which which is interesting is it seems to me that someone scripting it, you know, to at least an extent or at least prompting it, who was aware of the show. Obviously we didn't play an view real content, but you could hear some of the humor was very similar, the tone, the intonation. It's clearly someone who watched Scott a lot has made this, and so what they're doing with it is they haven't they haven't had it like taking positions on things. What they're doing is it just like Scott would do on a regular basis, read the news headlines, see what kind of like what's trending, what's interesting out there, and then break it down in a Scott Adams analysis fashion. So rather than say, oh, I'm for this, rum against this, it's more like just Scott explaining here's what happened, and here's my take in in a in an in an analytical sense, rather than a I'm for this or I oppose this kind of way. So that's, you know, that's sort of how they're keeping it. I think a little bit tighter to the you know, to the idea of what Scott would be doing and not you know, jumping in and saying, oh, I'm all for this. Real, I'm all against this when obviously we don't have the ability to ask Scott. But here's what was so key about what you just said, Tyler, because Scott Adams himself, so for years he talked about I give permission, I want this to be permissible, I want this to be allowed, as you would play the you know one clip there. But as he was facing his approaching demise as we all know, and he kept doing his show, he actually kind of changed his mind on the AI version based on pretty much the same thing that Tyler just said. So let's play now clip five oh four. 00:51:11 Speaker 10: I've been telling you for years, really that I planned to build an AI robotic clone of myself so that I could live forever. I have changed that plan. And here's why. 00:51:25 Speaker 6: I thought. 00:51:26 Speaker 10: It was just the greatest idea in the world that after I passed away, there'd be like a version of me that could grow and you know, change with technology and be upgraded and stuff. 00:51:37 Speaker 9: I thought that was great. 00:51:38 Speaker 10: Do you know what happens when you mentioned that to people, you know, they look at you with sadness and they go, it wouldn't be you, right, And that's the part that was invisible to me. Because in my planning, I'm not really there anymore, so I don't have to deal with the fact that people would find it uncomfortable because it's not me but exactly like me, and I can imagine that that would hit that creepy zone and you'd be like, why did you even do this? 00:52:08 Speaker 9: Like why did you do this? 00:52:09 Speaker 10: It's not you. So here's how I decided to fix that. I'm not going to create a digital clone of myself. I'm going to create a digital sun. I'm going to reproduce Okay. 00:52:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, okay, so yeah, are you gonna do like a reverse Willie style now where it turns out that video from early twenty twenty five is actually from yesterday. 00:52:34 Speaker 1: And it's no, no, no, Well. 00:52:37 Speaker 3: I agree with his walk back. 00:52:38 Speaker 5: That was real. 00:52:39 Speaker 3: I agree with his walk back. 00:52:40 Speaker 7: And the reason why what I've seen since since Charlie was murdered, I've seen people. I mean, there's not a digital clone of Charlie is saying stuff every single day and I'm glad. 00:52:51 Speaker 6: That doesn't exist. 00:52:52 Speaker 7: And the reason being that I'm already we've already seen because Charlie's been like an MLK level figure here where people have used charlie own words against Charlie, Charlie's own words against his you know, or they or they've said things, they've plucked little things. 00:53:09 Speaker 6: I can't even imagine what. 00:53:10 Speaker 7: People would start to do nefariously with things that an AI bought. 00:53:14 Speaker 5: Would say, well, it's going to get increasingly more difficult to trace what's real and what's not. 00:53:19 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, yeah, that's true. I mean it's going to happen. 00:53:22 Speaker 3: Charlie did. 00:53:25 Speaker 6: So just and it starts the whole argument Blake. 00:53:28 Speaker 3: Blake was no, I'll let Jack go here. 00:53:31 Speaker 1: No, I just I just wanted to say, so, you know, just kind of finish the story befocause I know the topic we're going to get into, and this is what we should get into. But you know, the family has and really the community I think, has come out and said, look, we're respecting Scott's we we want to respect Scott's last wishes here. And he did say that he changed his mind and that we would prefer this not to continue because you know, be based on what he said before, and you know that this is not that he did actually change his mind on it, and so that's that's kind of led to this back and forth now where they're putting out statements and the community is putting out statements like the community people that were in like his locals and chats and like his community manager and stuff. But then also AI, Scott Adams or I guess the guys running it are like debating this argument with them saying, well, I did have permission, it's clearly labeled AI. It should fall under parody, fair use, et cetera. And I think this is kind of where we're getting to. And obviously, you know, you know, obviously for me, I, you know, I side with the family, no question. If that's the family's wishes, that's the family's wishes. But ultimately, you know, do we even I guess more of a blake question, like do we even have laws that govern this sort of thing? 00:54:52 Speaker 3: I'm not so sure. 00:54:53 Speaker 4: Well so, actually, so much of it ends up in court, like it goes to the deeper AI thing, because AI in a lot of ways is basically a wild West. So there's like the ongoing lawsuit, for example, of all of the copyrighted works that get fed into AI, and is it legal for them to produce it? And is some of that straightforward on the level of like oh, is it okay for the AI to AI generate a Mickey Mouse thing when that's owned by Disney. But then it's like, is it okay for the AI to rip off a company like a specific artist's arts style and say like, oh, yeah, I did this in the style of this specific person, And then you get into like, yeah, is it legal for I think it's pretty clearly not okay if you're gonna if you were gonna use it fraudulently. So if you made a video that's like, oh, this is Charlie and something he said, and you're trying to use it to profit. 00:55:44 Speaker 3: But then if you're going even further than that, and it's. 00:55:46 Speaker 4: Just the likeness of a deceased person made in that style in the past, there'd be a lot of fair use stuff that could go into that. But I actually do feel we're probably in somewhat legally uncharted territory here, and there's you're gonna have to have, Well, first of all, there's gonna have to be like the rights to your likeness. But I'd even wonder if it'd be worth going further and say, like somewhat limit your ability to sell your likeness, because I don't think we're going to like the reality, for example, where it's routine for a company to just, for example, permanently own the rights to your likeness going on decade, like decades after your death. Like, would it be okay for anyone to permanently own your family members' way they act or behave. 00:56:30 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, but you gotta imagine, so you might start building like trusts and like h estates or whatever with that the usage rights built into it as a matter of sort of common practice, you know, because this is going to be such a you know, a common thing, especially if you're a high profile individual. I mean, everybody on the show right now, this video could be plugged into an AI and eventually be used to mimic stuff. 00:56:57 Speaker 1: We say, so, how do the viewers know? This isn't really easy? 00:57:00 Speaker 4: It'll be really easy for AI to mimic Tyler just always going on his phone like that. 00:57:06 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I was, I was. 00:57:07 Speaker 7: That's why it Actually, that's why my head's down like this, I'm not getting AI like you guys, Andrew's gonna be the most easy to AI guy ever because there's so much freaking Andrew Covet content. Now, No, there's gonna be and you get the same square face, like there's. 00:57:21 Speaker 3: Gonna be a scandal. 00:57:24 Speaker 4: Catch the AI, the A I he'll the AI will generate him wearing a jacket, but then it will not generate us for wearing the jacket. And that's how people will realize. 00:57:34 Speaker 6: That I'm gonna say this. 00:57:36 Speaker 7: So Jack looks a little bit different from time to time, Andrew has looked the exact same for as long as I've known him. He doesn't age, He looks the exactly doesn't he look the exact same? 00:57:47 Speaker 5: No, that's I I see. 00:57:49 Speaker 7: I see Andrew a lot, but not that much. But like you look the same. I think I'll take that as a comp it's a compliment. Like I've gone through AG I got fat, like I sometimes have a beard. 00:58:02 Speaker 6: I'm very forget. We'll have long hair, wear different hats every single day. 00:58:05 Speaker 5: I have study. 00:58:06 Speaker 7: You have the exactly like you have the same look every day. Hair, you wear okay stuff. 00:58:12 Speaker 1: But here's the thing too, Right beyond beyond just AI copies, like, you're gonna get to the point where there's like AI people right where something will go viral. So the example I used earlier today was like when I was having this conversation. I was like, Okay, remember you guys remember the hawk to a girl just whatever her name was. The point being is what if she was Ai all along and none of us knew? 00:58:39 Speaker 6: Yeah, she was just made up right like they're gonna make it was. 00:58:42 Speaker 1: A viral moment. Well but I mean I don't think she was, but she could have been. And how do you know the next one won't be like how. 00:58:51 Speaker 6: Like the airplane lady or the airplane lady that was there? 00:58:56 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, what what is that? What? What that? That? That that. 00:59:05 Speaker 6: Like stuff like that. 00:59:06 Speaker 1: So you're going to start to see stuff like that. And we've talked about this on the show before that Facebook and YouTube are replete with this type of content. I think Instagram and TikTok are like getting better at labeling it. But at some point it's just going to get so good that you really won't know. And and so what happens then when like those people go on to do the to like do their own stuff, you know, and do their own podcasts and content and movies, and it's like, so we talk about who owns our digital likeness? But then like if you create a digital being, a digital entity, like do you own them, Like, how does that work? 00:59:50 Speaker 7: Well, they're already doing that because there's tons of people on the internet who are making tons of money on Instagram and all that with with fake women. 01:00:00 Speaker 4: We're getting the fake girls, fake only fans kind of this like thought tier or like the scam tier. 01:00:09 Speaker 3: What I think will be really interesting. 01:00:11 Speaker 1: Fake girls because the really girls never seem to work out, so maybe fake e girls would be better. 01:00:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know so, But I think what will be interesting. Let's as an example, like we live we do live in the age of streamers, podcasters, all of that that that all exists. You can fake a lot of that, But what could be interesting to me? Imagine someone who's like an up and comer podcast of they just do like commentary on something, and they just start off doing a solo show. And we're basically at the point where, or if not very soon, will be where a person could basically be generating a solo show in their home, in their basement, in like a personal studio and have it be a fake person but otherwise be like entirely realistic looking or something like someone who could become a star as like a popular show, and yet the entire person is fake, like maybe it looks you know, maybe it looks like an attractive young woman and it's actually a forty year old guy who might be like authoring the takes. But it's entirely through this AI filter, and that person could like rise and become more and more prominent, maybe even appear on other shows once AI is fast enough that they could kind of just generate it live on the spot, and then it would like suddenly come out, maybe five years into this person's career that they're a fake persona and there's a different a person who looks totally different behind them. 01:01:28 Speaker 3: Well that will be interesting. 01:01:29 Speaker 5: And then and then you could also get to the point where that person owns the rights to them. They get that they monetize this fake person, that this person could have merch. 01:01:39 Speaker 7: Well, we had talked we had talked about this too, Is that a lot of news is just gonna be delivered by AI. 01:01:45 Speaker 6: They're gonna takes. 01:01:46 Speaker 3: Do we do we actually think that? 01:01:47 Speaker 5: For example, with it it was creepy and it was like we don't like it because it's not really him. Yeah, but I would feel that way. Well, if you don't know, you don't know, I. 01:01:56 Speaker 6: Guess what I'm saying on Daily News twenty four hours, and they. 01:02:00 Speaker 1: Did that on the Daily News, and those are already. 01:02:06 Speaker 7: They're gonna be like, you don't even have to like wait for they don't have to go pick somebody up and drive them to the studio or. 01:02:12 Speaker 6: Even like count on them to like like fire up their computer to go on. 01:02:17 Speaker 1: They're just gonna use makeup and hair. 01:02:19 Speaker 6: There's gonna be like, hey, here's the script. Are you okay with us saying this with your face? 01:02:23 Speaker 5: I don't know, man, It's like I gotta believe that it is. Uh, there's just something about a soul, something about a living person. It's the same pushback. And when you find out it's not living, maybe in certain context people won't care and it'll prove to be profitable and fine. 01:02:39 Speaker 6: Some people already believe what we're already doing. 01:02:42 Speaker 3: Is that so, Tyler? 01:02:44 Speaker 1: I I know for a fact that there are media markets that are doing this already in in news because especially for like the daytime news, where it's just sort of like news packages and it's like here's the you know, the reporter or you know, and they're on the scene or they're just like someone behind the desk talking and giving you like the rundown of it, Like. 01:03:06 Speaker 6: The news is someone behind a desk in front of a screen. 01:03:09 Speaker 7: That's all. That's ninety five ninety percent. It is not even on site reporting of stuff. 01:03:14 Speaker 6: Like literally used. 01:03:15 Speaker 1: To at a at a company I used to work at. We used to just get like, you know, kids from you know, the local state university who were in the broadcasting program and say hey, why don't you come and you come on, here's your shift And you might have like a two am shift, you might have a four am shift, you might six whatever, and you just came in and worked for shift, and like that was you know, hey, it's a way to get started, et cetera. But you know, if you're looking at it from a company perspective and you're saying, you know, what's cheaper? Is it going to be cheaper to just like buy an AI model that I can turn into as many different you know, news people as I want, who are never going to get old, who never have to pay them, and they're never going to get sick, they're never gonna need hair, makeup, et cetera, and they'll work twenty four to seven. Like I'm just saying, like that's that's very that's going to be very highly incentivized. There's gonna be a premium on that for people who run news networks. 01:04:15 Speaker 6: It's incredible. 01:04:17 Speaker 7: It's gonna be a horrifying We have two minutes. Wait, I have one more thing. I was gonna say too that sports, What if there's an entire there could be a future where all of sports is. 01:04:29 Speaker 6: Just completely said no, I don't believe that. I'm just saying it could happen. 01:04:33 Speaker 7: How would you know, right, it could be like they could have an entire league that's nothing but simulation. 01:04:38 Speaker 6: You never would know. 01:04:40 Speaker 3: Well and also, by the way, yeah, but what if somebody's like, what if this is the. 01:04:43 Speaker 1: Coolest fantasy football? Like it would be like fantasy football where you can like people say, oh, here's my fantasy team versus your fantasy team. But it's the it's like each player is based on a real player, but they're actually playing each other. Would never exist, That's actually what I'm saying. 01:05:00 Speaker 5: Watch your fantasy team like like simulated game. 01:05:03 Speaker 1: It could just be the like an actual fantasy I kind of. 01:05:06 Speaker 3: Like that appeal. 01:05:07 Speaker 4: If people they could already guys, you can go like freaking place simulated franchise mode in Madden and like that. People love that, yeah, people, Yeah, but they don't love it the way they love the NFL. They love it because it's like you simulate from healthy and it's one thousand. 01:05:23 Speaker 7: If it's all popular, yeah, but if it's all like, you don't even know, your brain doesn't even know, people value a real thing. 01:05:31 Speaker 3: China has robot sports. 01:05:33 Speaker 5: If any culture is going to like buy into this soulless robot ai garbage, it's gonna be. 01:05:39 Speaker 6: Third world countries will totally buy into. 01:05:41 Speaker 3: This third world country anything. 01:05:43 Speaker 4: Like if you go to like when you go to a third world country, all of their ads are already like the low effort AI slop. 01:05:49 Speaker 6: But here here's here's my theory. 01:05:51 Speaker 7: America has all these different pro sports because we're wealthy and we have so much. 01:05:56 Speaker 6: Capability of doing that. 01:05:58 Speaker 7: With the wealthiest nation in history, have all this came up that we created all this entertainment for ourselves. Other countries don't have it because they don't have that they can literally just make it out of thin air. Now, like who knows, Like there's a ton of people in Africa and they have no sports. 01:06:13 Speaker 5: Yeah, they have sports. They have they have soccer. 01:06:16 Speaker 7: Okay, they have, so it's not the same as here. Here we have we have literally thirty two sports in every high school in America. Like nobody else in the world has that. They have two major sports. Most kids don't play sports. I'm saying that now there's like you can just create all entertainment. It's totally fake, totally made up, and even third world countries will be able to monetize that because like, unfortunately, poor people get. 01:06:40 Speaker 5: Pumped by this, but like it's it's not it's all gonna be low tier when you know there's not a human involved. 01:06:45 Speaker 7: But poor people are gonna get owned by this, like it's like they're a white pill. 01:06:52 Speaker 1: No, no, I do have a white pill. I have a big white pill on this. And this actually goes into one of the reasons that we chose the name of this program the way that we did because no one, no one especially in the mainstream, is ever going to come for this show or any of our work. And why is that? Because AI will never be allowed to commit thought crime. 01:07:19 Speaker 5: Boom oh, I see what you did there. 01:07:22 Speaker 6: But the program, this is the most unaiable show. 01:07:28 Speaker 5: Well, but this was not significent. This was not a whole lot of thought crimes involved in this because we talked about the. 01:07:35 Speaker 6: Yeah, we could have been way more. 01:07:37 Speaker 4: If you guys stopped before we could get to the freaking ice raids and roadblocks, that would have been a good thought crime. We as we fade out here, at least they're doing ice raids in the kids video game Rodblock five. Yeah, I just show it. I want the people to know. We didn't get a chance to talk about it, and we got to get out of here for another thing. 01:07:56 Speaker 3: But I think the kids are all right. 01:07:59 Speaker 4: They're doing it's in roadblocks, escorting escorting the illegals out of their digital schools in their digital game. 01:08:09 Speaker 5: Oh and then there's the there's also protests. 01:08:12 Speaker 7: Of the protest the protest and that's the funniest thing ever been Like they. 01:08:21 Speaker 1: Is AI content. 01:08:23 Speaker 5: It's yeah, but it's it's not emulating you know, human form and flesh and bone. You know. 01:08:30 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying it's here, we are talking about it, and this is already user generated computerized content firing guns. 01:08:37 Speaker 6: They're firing guns. 01:08:38 Speaker 4: What if this is like this is like the liberal you could go, you could go so meta, like what if what if instead of actually deporting illegals, they just did AI videos showing deportations, and then that could happen to Bam and everyone's like, we know the admin fulfilled all its promises. 01:08:55 Speaker 3: I saw the clips all the illegals. 01:08:56 Speaker 1: Government, No, no, no, Blake, here's no what's even better? What we hear the real thought crime on that. What we should do is create AI videos where it's just like ice letting people go, and we'll spread that everywhere, like in Spanish and be like total. We could just how he's not doing it anymore. 01:09:11 Speaker 4: Reality divorced, Reality totally divorced. Everyone just gets their AI generated preferred reality. 01:09:18 Speaker 5: Yeah, you put in your you put in your like your political and your AIONE will know because no one actually goes outside anymore. 01:09:25 Speaker 3: So it's entirely. 01:09:28 Speaker 1: Until Internet goes hot Slavic women and you know, Andrew can have his Mexicans. M hey, Mexican weather Channel. 01:09:40 Speaker 5: Right, my wife would not relate to that. 01:09:43 Speaker 4: What if you got an AI wife who did? 01:09:48 Speaker 3: We're starting to get thought crime. 01:09:49 Speaker 5: I'll give you that. 01:09:52 Speaker 1: Well, is A is A is a I cheating? Cheating? 01:09:55 Speaker 5: Oh it's basically I mean that's like that's porn, right, yeah, it's cheating. 01:10:04 Speaker 3: That's like a yeah, that's like a crime. 01:10:07 Speaker 5: Time. It's all right, Jack, why don't you take us home? 01:10:13 Speaker 1: Since you I've got to run and blake. But like we just gotta say, let's take it for a second. Guys. We put something together. It became the number one story in the country. It's going to be the most watched halftime show. And you know, you gotta sometimes you just have to give time for that, give space for that. And somehow, somehow we seem to have gotten to the precipice of incredible greatness. And it really feels like there's so many people we didn't even play the amount of people that are coming in who are supportive of this and are coming out of the woodwork. So this Sunday, we're giving everyone some some homework. Go and change the channel, turn off Bad Bunny, put on Kid Rock and the Gang, and go commit thought crime. 01:11:06 Speaker 3: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.