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-Is masculinity dying, and if so, why?
-Why is Barack Obama linking events in Minneapolis to raising pit bulls?
-Why is the Trump White House posting memes about penguins with a death wish?
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Speaker 3: All right, folks, welcome to today's edition of Thought Crime Thursday. As you can see, I'm here in my tuxedo. No, I am not auditioning for uh on top of a wedding cake. I auditioning filminger. No, I'm going to the premiere of Milania which Come, which is going to be across town here at the Trump Kennedy Center in about an hour and a half. So I'm I'm dressed up. So this is this is this is my my attire, but as we know, no suits. So you got my suspenders? What's up?
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Speaker 4: We've got we got Blake's yeah, yeah, how did jacket? But who's there with you?
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Speaker 3: And we've got well all on, we have Tayler Boyer, and I wanted to also introduce to the audience. I think you may know this guy, someone who has been out there on the interwebs and one who's also by the way, with somebody who Charlie Kirk was a big thing of and was always sending me his stuff. So I wanted to get him on the children's trying to get it on. His name is doctor Charles hornish Dale, but you may know him betterized by his online monitor as the right Nationalist. What's up? Right?
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Speaker 5: It's absolutely a pleasure and a privilege to be here Jackie.
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Speaker 3: So I wanted to get let's get into this because your new book is actually going to be our first thought crime. Tell us about your new book and what is the thesis.
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Speaker 5: So I've got a new book just come out with Skyhorse called The Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity, and it's about testosterone. So it's a follow on from the Tucker Casson documentary that I was in in twenty twenty two. So I was in a documentary called The End of Men about testosterone decline, about this civilization decline in testosterone that we're seeing and it's implications for men and also these the broader implications actually for politics, for the political system. You know what happens when you have a society that's full of men who have basically been been drained of their masculine essence.
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Speaker 3: So castrated, castrated. So what you're saying is it's it's sort of like a reverse of what so many people think is going on in society. See, we think that liberally. So some people say, well, liberalism is on the rise, and that's why you're seeing these new diets, veganism, et cetera. You're saying, it's the opposite. It's that it's those diets and those not just diets but but chemical it's kind of Maha actually, but it's it's the synthesis of Maha and magat really like trump Ism.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think I think for too long people have have considered before Maha, in particular, people have have kind of failed to consider the political implications of ill health. And they've really failed to consider the political implications of testosterone declines.
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Speaker 1: So testosterone.
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Speaker 5: Various different you know, like gold standard studies have showed that actually testosterone is declining in the US and actually throughout the rest of the Western world at a rate of something like one percent a year, year on year. That might not sound like very much, but that's a quarter in twenty five years. It's fifty percent in half a century. And yes, I mean I mean broad broadly speaking, I think that a lot of a lot of these trends that we're seeing today are actually downstream of this biological, this profound biological change that's happening to men and has been happening for decades.
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Speaker 1: You know, among other things.
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Speaker 5: You could talk about the rise of leftism, you could talk about political polarization. That's something I talk about in the book. You know, actually, as men lose their testosterone, I think they're more likely to become leftists.
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Speaker 3: They're more likely to become leftist, so blake. But you've obviously you've heard about this. What is your sense of this? Is this something that actually bears out?
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Speaker 4: Well, it's funny because I'm of two minds. It does seem obviously we have if you were to just look at society wide, I feel like we might have reached peak soy boy or something actually in the past, Like it felt like ten years ago there was that hipster, hipster aesthetic, the reddit or asthetic, that peak. Now when I think about I think about young people, I always think about the like the lifting cult guys. And it's funny because it feels like so omnipresent that you'd assume it's all over the place. But like fifty years ago, nobody was going out and lifting weights three times a week to be strong. Nobody was doing a lot of this really ambitious fitness stuff. But it does seem like testosterone was higher. I guess since we have the eggster here, first of all, I guess a lot of people are going to ask why raw eggs specifically, but is it do you think it is primarily an environmental thing or do you think it's a lifestyle thing? Or basically, can we act, can an individual fix the testosterone crisis? Or is this a gigantic scientific public health matter.
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Speaker 5: Okay, so on the raw egg thing then, yeah, so raw eggs. Raw egg nationalism became a thing really in twenty twenty. It's the reason I started posting on Twitter. There was this hashtag going around raw egg nationalism, and it was about people knocking back large quantities. Slunking is the technical term actually slanking large quantities of raw eggs.
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Speaker 3: Do you have a slanking record? What is your slanking record?
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Speaker 5: I think the most I ever slunked in the day was twenty eight.
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Speaker 3: Ah, twenty eight raw eggs in a day?
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Speaker 4: Is cooking them bad? Because there's just something that kind of sounds gross to me?
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I didn't take them all at once.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like Coganwood.
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Speaker 5: Coganwood, but I mean he was a different beast. You can't look like I would never tell somebody don't eat cooked eggs, like if you can't stomach raw eggs, and then by all means scrambled whatever, cooked, fried boiled. But the raw thing is is largely to do with a the quantity that you can consume any one time. So like you may have seen cool Hand Luke the Paul Newman film right where he's challenged to eat fifty boiled eggs, it nearly kills him. But you can very easily knock back fifty raw eggs, you know, just drinking them. But then there's also the issue of preservation of the nutrients. So you get certain nutritional benefits when you consume eggs raw rather than cooked. It preserves the cholesterol in particular. And now we've been told for one hundred years you know that cholesterol is very bad for you, but actually the opposite is the case. And thankfully now you know RFK Junior has upended the food pyramid and restored cholesterol rich foods to their rightful places as the kind of building blocks of the American diet. But I think this is a it's an individual and a societal problem. So there are definitely things that you can do as an individual to improve your hormonal health. Absolutely, and I regularly give advice on my Twitter account, on my substackt and in this book, you know, there are simple things that you can do lifting weights, cleaning up your diet, learning how to cook, avoiding processed foods, Sleeping better. Sleep is a big one actually that people really don't pay enough attention to. So there was a study that showed, for example, that if you double your sleep as a man from four hours to eight hours a night, you can double your testosterone levels because the vast majority of testosterone is produced at night during sleep, So if you don't sleep properly, you're not going.
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Speaker 1: To produce enough.
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Speaker 5: But then there are these big I think societie til problems, things like pesticides, herbicides in the food and water, prefast chemicals, plastic chemicals, microplastics, environmental pollution, all that kind of stuff, and really, you know, that's something that government needs to be involved in, and that's why we need make America health again. That's why we need this grand health campaign that centers on cleaning up the environment, educating people, improving herbicide and pesticide regulations, all this kind of stuff.
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Speaker 3: So that's the thought crime. I love this idea because you're combining, basically MAHA with everything that we're seeing politically that's going on. The name of the book is the last man. Why is that the name of the book if this is the subject.
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Speaker 5: Yes, well, so the book is actually kind of based. The book is kind of based on fuky Armor's end.
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Speaker 1: Of history thesis. It's a kind of quite a bold reappraisal or a.
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Speaker 5: Restating of what Francis fukiy Armor is saying happens at the end of history, you know, the triumph of liberal democracy over all other alternative political systems. Fuki Arma talks about the triumph of liberal democracy as the victory of a certain.
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Speaker 1: Kind of pimos.
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Speaker 5: And pimos is this ancient Greek word that was used to describe spiritedness, the things that animate man, that give him motivation, that make him patriotic and courageous, etc. Well, what Fukiyama says is that actually the triumph of liberal democracy is it's the victory of one kind of pymos over another. And so, you know, in a liberal democracy, you can be recognized as equal with your fellow man, but you can't be recognized as better, which is a fundamental aspect actually of being a man of masculinity of thymos. Well, what does that actually mean. It means that we've created a political system that is potentially at odds with certain aspects of the male character and psyche, the drives, the things that.
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Speaker 1: Push men to succeed.
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Speaker 5: So not only are we facing this kind of biological crisis where you know, we're being pumped full of pesticides and herbicides and we're eating bad diets and we're not sleeping and we're exposed to blue light all the time in chronic stress, but also actually we've created a political system that is hostile to masculinity. And so the last men is this is this idea that actually we've arrived at the end of history and we've created a creature, a type of man who is not fully a man. And so I post these quite quite big kind of fillab.
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Speaker 3: So what you've done here, I think I figured this out. You've explained DNT for mugshots. Maybe I have this entire thesis is why we have why they are that way, why they all have this it's it's it's diet, it's lack of testosterone, and it's but you're right though, it's kind of a spirit or a lack of spirit or a hateful spirit and a resentment. So this is why you get and you and I would. You were on my show earlier today and we were talking about the fact that they so Tyler, did you see how they I think I saw you tweeting about this, how they used AI on the Alex Preddy photo to like kind of like him.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, insane, totally insane.
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Speaker 4: It was funny because it was like it was like he had slightly askew like eyes and hair, and then he had like a sickly pallor on his skin, so they had to tan him up, jazz them up. It was a very strange look.
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Speaker 6: It looked like, legitimately like one of those really obvious face tunes that they did. They just put that ended up.
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Speaker 7: Media outlets ran that photo totally.
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Speaker 6: Now that's the one they went with roll with, which you.
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Speaker 4: Do wonder is this sustainable because as as people joked, it was like people would call him a martyr, but they still got the ick from his photo. It does seem like the the termination loop on this is it's just these people can't reproduce then, and so they just disappear and then you you rebalance back to something.
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Speaker 3: That but but but they reproduced by other means. That's why that's why they go after the kids. That's why they do the grooming, that's why they have all the stuff in the education. So they reproduce by going after your your children basically and and taking them over mentally. So and this guy who and we've been doing some reading on this that you know, he was this Alex pretty and you look at that first picture and actually, you know what, you know what, let's do it. Let's do it. Doctor Tornishdale, could could you describe the diet of the and and the lifestyle of the man you see in the original photo here?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the man I see in the original photo is.
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Speaker 5: He's he's a vegan, I would imagine or certainly he's living on some kind of plant based diet. He doesn't get much sun. I don't think he exercises. He looks like he's skinny fat. So you know he's got he's probably got man boobs. He's probably got low testosterone or other I should be talking the past tension that actually he probably had low testosterone.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not.
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Speaker 5: He's not a model of the line changes drawn line they have. Yeah, I mean they've give they've they've chattified him, they've tried to make him into a into a giga chad. I mean, it's it's funny because you know, the high mark I suppose for this is Luigi Mangioni.
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Speaker 3: Right, oh wait wait and mouth breathing, mouth breathing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an habitual mouth breather too.
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Speaker 5: I would imagine he probably has some unpleasant habits.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't really particularly want to look at.
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Speaker 3: His Why is it that mouth breathing leads to that very tight neck that way?
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Speaker 5: Well, what it does is if you, let's say you have an undiagnosed allergy as a child, if you habitually mouth breathe as your skull is developing, your mouth is open, it pushes your jaw back, it recesses the jaw. So that actually what happens is it looks like you don't have a chin, right, I mean you do have a chin, it's just in the wrong position.
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Speaker 1: It's in your neck. This is yeah, yeah, yeah, it's absolutely bad.
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Speaker 7: Are we talking? That's insane. Allergies you have.
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Speaker 1: They can do, yes, you're yeah.
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Speaker 5: If you if you're like a child and you have like an undiagnosed pet allergy and you're constantly breathing through your mouth for like ten years as you developed from a six year old to a sixteen year old. Then yeah, your your your skull will not develop properly, Your your jaw will become recessed, and you'll basically have no chin. I mean, you do have a chin, but it's in your neck and it's back. That is why people have That's why people are chinless. That's why if you see a chinless man, he probably is a habitual mouth breather.
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Speaker 3: They say the same thing about eating hard foods.
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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, there's there's that too, so I mean, you know, there's there's a lot of anthropological evidence. You know, in traditional societies, diet is much harder.
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Speaker 1: People chew more, you know.
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Speaker 5: And in traditional societies as well, people use their mouths to do leather work and you know, make rope and stuff, So people use their jaws and their facial muscles much more. We have a very soft diet on the whole. I mean, if you eat a processed food diet, you're basically just swallowing your food without even chewing it. You know, it just kind of dissolves in your mouth and passes down your gullet. And yes, that means that the muscles of your face don't develop and the structure of your face doesn't develop as a result.
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Speaker 3: This is amazing. I can do this topic all day. So the book is The Last Men, Doctor Charles Cornish of the synthesis of Mine, uh huh and Maga, which I just think is really cool.
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Speaker 4: And Ova, I guess I think our eggmeister will be very good on h on this topic, which is a very strange one, and I think people watching are gonna be a little baffled by it. But we need to talk about the penguins, Jack the penguins, and so this one, I think I've had to explain this four or five separate times.
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Speaker 1: I have just explained it.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I.
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Speaker 4: Guess I suppose he did. But this all happened kind of out of nowhere. I believe it began. Uh well, it began a decade ago. But then earlier this week we had the Trump administration, the White House. Actually they put out a meme, as it were, let's put up four eighty and it.
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Speaker 7: Basically says like, embrace the penguinner.
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Speaker 4: I can't see the text here, but he just posted this image and it was it shows the Greenland flag. So everyone was saying, oh, stupid, dumb thing. Mister Trump thought that there are penguins on the North Pole, but it is not that. It's actually not about the North Pole. It's about what the penguin represents. And we had an additional one. The Department of War put out their own image saying to embrace the penguin. That's four seventy eight. Throw that up there. So everyone's everyone's posting about penguins wandering off towards the mountains. And the weird thing is is everyone's a fan of that penguin because it is committing suicide. Yeah, that's literally what it is. So we have this clip. Let is it still clip for eighty seven. Let's play that.
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Speaker 3: It's from an old why we like the penguin.
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Speaker 4: That's not well, let's let people judge for themselves. So let's play the clip from from the Vernon Hertzog documentary.
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Speaker 3: Blake always does this, by the way, By the way, he always does this. He tells people what he thinks is the only reason that something's going on.
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Speaker 8: These penguins are all heading to the open water to the right, but one of them caught our eye, the one in the center. He would neither go towards the feeding grounds at the edge of the ice.
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Speaker 9: Nor return to the colony.
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Speaker 8: Shortly afterwards, we saw him heading straight towards the mountains, some seventy kilometers away. Doctor Ainley explained that even if he caught him and brought him back to the colony, he would immediately head right back for the mountains.
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Speaker 9: But why one.
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Speaker 8: Of these disoriented or deranged penguins showed up at the new Harbor diving cab already some eighty kilometers away from where it should be.
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Speaker 9: The rules for.
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Speaker 8: The humans are, do not disturb or hold up the penguin, stand still and let him go on his way. And here he's heading off into the interior of the vast continent with five thousand kilometers ahead of him. He's heading towards certain death.
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Speaker 4: I could listen, I could listen to Werner, Herzog talk all narrate anything all day.
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Speaker 7: He is headed towards certain death.
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Speaker 6: No, that doesn't why this is just another uh yeah, more propaganda to get people away from the ice walls. Don't go that direction.
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Speaker 7: Oh oh, do you think that's what this is about?
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Speaker 6: Don't go towards the ice walls.
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Speaker 3: What's behind the ice wall? Styler?
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Speaker 4: What's behind the I don't know what's behind the What do you mean you don't know what's behind the eyes?
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Speaker 6: We don't know. You don't know. This is a certain death.
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Speaker 5: Obviously this week we know what's behind the agatha.
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Speaker 4: You're definitely gonna have to explain to other people what a gartha is. But no, it is true, Like there is a funny thing, like I know you guys are joking about it.
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Speaker 7: He kind of it kind of.
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Speaker 4: The penguin basically doesn't mean because people are saying, embrace the penguin's suicidal surge into the unknown.
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Speaker 1: Suicide.
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Speaker 5: So there are these there are like redditors I saw who were saying, like, oh, yeah, the penguin represents the kind of deranged nihilism of capitalism, where you know, we're.
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Speaker 10: All just heading towards inevitable. No, it's it's not that. It's it's Spangler writes about this. It's the Faustian spirit. The penguin embodies the Faustian spirit, the will, the desire to know, the desire to overcome, the desire to transcend, and to achieve the transcendental, even at the cost of death.
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Speaker 5: It's the it's the great impulse that has motivated Western society, Western civilization and brought it to greatness. It's what built the Gothic cathedral. It's what resulted in calculus. It's what It's what drove us to the moon, and we'll drive and hopefully will drive us beyond. It's this penguin is This penguin is is experiencing this profound drive, the Faustian, the Faustian spirit, and he's prep he's prepared.
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Speaker 3: To die that the way that people have said this for years, the common brace the mountains beckon us. The mountains are beckoning us. He feels the call of the mountains. You must go and see what is on the other side. You must climb the mountain. You must achieve greater. That's why the penguin will not stop. Because, as we all know, outside of debt, all failure is psychological.
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Speaker 3: Man.
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Speaker 4: You're making it sound like we should just make the national we should just change the national seal and have the suicide penguin as the official bird of the United States.
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Speaker 3: It could be because you've never climbed the mountain Blake. You don't know what's over there. There could be penguin utopia on the other side.
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Speaker 4: He's right now, Yeah, I mean, I would say we could easily make a penguin our national bird and put it on the seal. If we annexed Antarctica, I'm going to keep flogging that hobby horse. That's how you that's the that's how you square the Greenland circle.
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Speaker 7: We should just seize Antarctica.
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Speaker 3: Tyler, Tyler, what what's what's your take on the penguin?
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Speaker 6: You know, I kinda I think the penguin is just having a rough week. And you know.
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Speaker 7: What, missus penguin told them to drinking too much?
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Speaker 6: Am I even gonna say why? We're gonna say what gonna why We're not going to talk about the garbage you forgot to take out, or you know, the you know, the laundry he was supposed to pick up right away, or you know whatever it is.
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Speaker 3: Either that sounds awfully personal.
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Speaker 6: No, No, they just speak. Nobody's ever been in that listen. There's just sometimes a male penguin just needs to run towards the mountains, right, and just well.
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Speaker 4: You mentioned the schlunk I think there's a schlunking connection to me. I'm thinking back to fourth grade science and emperor penguins. I don't know if other penguins do it, but definitely the emperors. They sit on the eggs, right, they kind of just squat on those eggs to keep them.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, they have, they have a huge Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's in March of the penguins. The one has to sit there and the others to get food.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you can't eggs a problem with that? Maybe they maybe that's why they went, Man, if you sit on the egg constantly but you can't schlunk the egg, do you go that you have to flee to a gartha as it were.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm pro penguin. I'm me too, Angelo says Missus Penguin found those text messages on his ice phone.
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Speaker 7: His ice phone.
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Speaker 6: Now, I like the idea of you know again, I think that there is real neat, especially when you're you're born into a community, you spent in a community. I think there's probably just a certain percentage of people who have to break away from that. And that includes penguins too. Penguins just there's just a certain percentage of penguins who have to just break out and just get away. And they don't have they don't, they don't they don't have scream of music and you know, I don't know.
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Speaker 7: Wait you listen to Scream of Music.
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Speaker 6: And ESPN three to to lean into so.
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Speaker 7: You listened to scream of music.
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Speaker 6: I'm just saying that just you see, don familiar with scream of music. That just doesn't exist for penguins. So they got to just run towards the mountains.
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Speaker 3: So that is the spirit that is the Western spirit. It's the spirit that that's the spirit of why Turning Point USA was founded. The spirit that you can do more, the spirit that you can that you can do something. You don't just have to be. You don't just have to be a penguin who's in the herd, who's in the flock. You can go and do something different.
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Speaker 7: Turning Penguin US and Antarctica, No, No.
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Speaker 3: No Lake Lake, Turning Point, Antarctica, Turning Point, Agatha, Turning Point McMurdo.
00:27:29
Speaker 6: Turning Point has been actually has been actually operating for sometime now.
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Speaker 3: Oh it has Tyler not dude, we'relive.
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Speaker 1: We can't tell them.
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Speaker 3: We must protect your energy crystals at all costs. Oh man, we're in big trouble now. So but the one thing that I wanted to get into as well, which which kind of goes back to alex pretty is Obama. Did you guys see there's a Obama statement that he put out like in the wake of all this where he's talking about, oh, we have to like support our neighbors and what's going on in many you guys see.
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Speaker 4: This thing, Yeah, I saw it on only because you send it to me, because Poso, I don't follow Barack Obama and actively hang on every word that he says, but I understand some people are a little different, and.
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Speaker 3: You know, we do we do do a show here, you know, and he's kind of like the leader of the opposition, but you know whatever. So so he he had this link and that he that he posted up and me is like, here's your resources that we can use to, you know, to support our neighbors. And it's weird because I guess neighbor is like the new comrade, the new tovarish right Tyler two that they don't even refer to illegal aliens because they because they realized that illegal aliens and undocumented and it all just got too wonky and too silly. So they are just saying neighbors, which is the weirdest thing. It's very communist. But then here's what's crazy though, So it links to a box article where it says how to help the resistance to ice in Minnesota and beyond, and you scroll down and it's got all sorts of wild stuff. Yeah, it's got the normal like donate to legal funds and staying with Minnesota, which, by the way, I'm pretty sure is very similar to the bail funds that Michelle Obama or excuse me, Kamala Harris shared back in twenty twenty. But then if you scroll down, you keep going down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down down. This is the weirdest one. It says there are other ways to volunteer. And my pitbull is family has been helping vulnerable families take care of their pets, including when an owner is detained by ice.
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Speaker 1: And so I clicked on it.
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Speaker 3: I said, my pipple is family. What is this? And it says, let's lick discrimination.
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Speaker 1: Let's bite discrimination, face.
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Speaker 3: Discrimination, volunteer with us my pitfull is families. What's going on with the pit bulls? And why is it? I'm sorry, what is going on? Why are pit bulls considered the pet of and you look at these people, they're all Antifa. Why is pitball like the Antifa pet?
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Speaker 1: Well, there's well, there's this long.
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Speaker 5: History of people claiming that actually pitbull is a euphemism for a certain demographic, right, And so when people are talking familiar no, well so they're saying, you know, like pit bulls are only thirteen percent of the dog population, that they commit sixty percent of the savage attacks.
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Speaker 3: Is that true?
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Speaker 5: I think, well, I mean, yeah, pitbull's definitely commit a.
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Speaker 4: Report, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, pitpolls are a giant, you know, killing machines out and about eating babies, which you know they're eating the.
00:31:06
Speaker 7: Babies other dogs won't eat as as they might say.
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Speaker 3: And in fact, you were I think your your friend from you just had a situation with.
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Speaker 4: This, Yeah, crimew are our friend down in Austin, he was he was attacked by a pit bull and we were just learning today one of our staffers, Uh, they had a parent who was attacked by a pit bull in the past. There's and I know our neighbor back in South Dakota they had like a cousin who was killed by a pit bull. Like it's amazing how many of these you can find if you yeah killed that was an act. It was sort of they you have less simbody because they I think were running like a breeding operation or they had some like large number of dogs and you know, despite having all those lovely dogs that wouldn't hurt a.
00:31:47
Speaker 7: Fly, uh, the dogs consumed.
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Speaker 3: Them as it were, which is disgusting. And there's there's there's a ton of statistics that people can go on this, so it's most dangerous breeds and you can find that the data. It's it's very clear. Actually where where is this from dog bite dot org where it says that breeds and types of dogs involved in fatal attacks on humans in the US from twenty five to twenty seventeen. It's got government pincher six, boxer, seven labs, nine huskies thirteen. It's across the United States fatal attacks American bulldog fifteen, mixed breeds seventeen, German shepherd twenty, Rottwilder forty five, pit bull two one hundred eighty five attacks from pitfulls. And to this this has to do and this is this is where people get really upset on on this because it has to do with how pitfulls were bred, which happened originally in England. It is so I'm gonna I'm gonna get throw it to you to to to explain this to us. How were pit bulls originally bread.
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Speaker 5: Well as fus I know, I mean they were they were bred as fighting dogs. I mean the fighting dogs that bred to be I mean I think they were literally thrown in pits.
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Speaker 3: And well so then incomes from them being thrown in fighting pit yep.
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Speaker 5: So you would you breed the most overgenerations, you know, constant cycles of breeding. You you create the most aggressive dog that you can throw in a pit, that will rip another dog to shreds for the enjoyment of a crowd. You know, the most it's blood sport, you know.
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Speaker 3: Sod ball that comes from the fact that they would actually have the dogs fighting actual aws.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 5: They wouldn't just fight other dogs and they would fight rats, but they would also fight balls. They were savage enough if you threw enough of them in a pit with a with a bull to kill a ball or certainly to you know, to savage it in a very very nasty way. So these are dogs that have been bred that are genetically predisposed their whole existence is violence.
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Speaker 3: Well I know, so this of course is the thirt crime because every single time this happens, every single time we find a story like this, you get I get flooded with comments. I'm actually look in the live chat right now where people are saying or people are saying, oh, that's just a bad owner. Oh that's just a bad owner. They don't know what they're doing, they didn't train them right, and.
00:34:14
Speaker 1: It makes it worse.
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Speaker 5: But I mean it's always in there waiting to get out.
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Speaker 1: And I mean Premier, I think he had the dog on his lap, he was petting it.
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Speaker 3: Well, we met him at the down.
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Speaker 5: Sorry, he's a nice guy petting the dog on his lap and he just bites his face. I mean, you know what, what can you what can you do about that other than wager relentless war of extamination against all pit bulls.
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Speaker 3: So what's the status of pit bulls and belli breeds in the UK?
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Speaker 5: They're largely they're largely ban and in fact that I was going to say, my cousin in the nineteen nineties was bitten on the eyebrow and still has a very bad scar. They used to call them American pit bulls back then. Oh it's funny, yeah, which is funny sitting they were bred in the UK.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, the reason I knew that the bulldogs are originally British was because of the British bull dog to the wrestler and w.
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Speaker 1: W oh yeah classics so good.
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Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean I think there's there. So there's been a lot of attacks in the UK as well.
00:35:14
Speaker 3: So they've they've they've phased out the breed completely.
00:35:16
Speaker 6: They have.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean obviously you get the like here, then you get the sort of people whining and crying and moaning and saying that it's discriminatory and that it's not the dogs, it's the owners and all the same stuff gets said. But yeah, they do exactly what they do here. They attack and kill people, kill women, kill children.
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Speaker 3: So Blake, what what what do we attribute this to? Because what what are you saying? And what we're looking up? Says the statistics are very clear on this that this one breed is particularly violent, and look, you can just go to deal.
00:35:48
Speaker 7: Well what's really incredible.
00:35:50
Speaker 3: Headline after headline backing it up.
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Speaker 4: Well, what's really incredible to me? It's like, Okay, this dog is clearly a dangerous one. And what's remarkable and what I think makes it relevant is the truly pathological response that clearly a lot of people simultaneously, there are people who want to get a pit bull because they know it is a terrible dog, and they like want to argue that the pit bull is not a bad dog. That it's like misunderstood or whatever.
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Speaker 9: I mean.
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Speaker 4: We see it with this charity. Supposedly, this charity My pit Bull is Family. Allegedly it's like, oh, it's just for people who need support with their pets. But they didn't say my dog is family. They didn't say my pet is family. They chose a pit bull. If they have that photo that we took of their like table that they have, like they have a freaking pit bull mascot, and like they really lean into the pit bull imagery. This is specifically a type of dog that there's a ton of them in shelters. Why are there a ton of them in shelters? Because they're horrible dogs, and so people have to ditch them because they bite their toddler, but they don't want to put it down. And it's truly it's an insight into the psychological state of a lot of people, not exclusively on the left, frankly, that they they want to go out of their way to get the dog that is more dangerous for them to get the dog that is more dangerous to other people, as I suppose, a form of pretty aggressive virtue signaling, either because they want to prove that it's the owner not the dog, until you know, they turn out to be the bad owner whose dog goes goes nuts. It it's this, it's this true will towards ugliness to this will towards dangerous.
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Speaker 3: This kid is like they know it's dangerous and like they want it to be which kid, Like that's what they want it?
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Speaker 6: What happened? What happened with that kid in that video?
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Speaker 7: I'm not sure. I think we just got b roll on it.
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Speaker 6: But yeah, I get I've got into like the algorithm on Instagram. I follow every victim of every pitple attack. I don't know why it just pops up on my stuff, but like, well, I guess I'm doing it there and I keep watching. But there's a lot. Yeah, there's a lot of pitbull attacks that are completely underreported. It's crazy, there's probably So this is the question I have, especially for thought crime. Is there more damage gene by pit bulls or by school shooters?
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Speaker 3: Wow?
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Speaker 7: Probably school shooters.
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Speaker 3: What would damage? Though?
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Speaker 4: No, I know, I like genuinely curious dogs as bad as pit bulls are, they don't kill that many people in like a national context. I think maybe what like ten fifteen people get killed by pit bulls a year, Okay, I mean that that's.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean how many. What I suppose you have to do is you have to do some kind of per capita anaalomy.
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Speaker 6: But it's like every year and then we're like like across the world, and like, I mean.
00:38:51
Speaker 7: That's part of it.
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Speaker 4: I think pit bulls are an American thing and like and like America and its cultural imperialist sphere.
00:38:56
Speaker 7: I don't think you're gonna find pit bulls if you visit, I fear my part.
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Speaker 6: Part of my point is I think that a lot of this actually goes severely underreported. I think there's a lot more pitbull attacks happening in America than we actually even know about because nobody ever talks. I tell you, I see a ton of this content.
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Speaker 4: I guess it would only go if it got reported, like to the hospital. There's probably a lot of people who just get bit and just tough it out.
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Speaker 6: I mean there's people. I mean that. I mean again, yeah, like nobody ever gets held to account either, Like where people I mean, this happens a lot where dogs will attack, and you hear obviously about people suing each other over dog attacks, but there's also probably significantly more people who actually never sue their family member or whoever for a dog attack, Like you're not gonna sue your own family Most of the time when you get attacked by a dog just doesn't happen.
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Speaker 3: It's not reported, no, and it's something where like I think so obviously, right, the thought crime here is the question of the tabula rosso, Right, this is the horedit city. You know, heredity, genetics, you know, is there a reason that you know people from certain countries are a certain way, and you know the Somalies, the you know, Europeans, whatever. This is the thought crime that that comes up. You know, can you overcome your heredity? Can you overgot And then certainly you were just talking about that with with your book. Is to say that there are lots of factors. It is kind of a hodgepodge of all these different things. However, there is still this innate nature and twin studies have borne this out over and over and over again. Uh, go go read the book Blueprint if you want to check that out. But also I think maybe if we're doing a p s A, it's hey, guys, if your dog's not good around kids, get the dog out there before before anything bad happens, just or or by. And if you do have a pit bull, then maybe just don't bring them around kids.
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Speaker 4: And also embrace the message from Obama mooded gun. They embrace the message from Obama that pitbulls are a lib breed and a lib cause. I say that only because two years ago Florida banned local bands on on pitt read's. They basically said you aren't allowed to ban pit bulls from things. I don't know why Florida did that. They had a good they had a good run on a lot of things, and that is.
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Speaker 7: A terrible law.
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Speaker 3: Florida, Florida, at the state.
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Speaker 7: Level banned local bands on pitbulls.
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Speaker 6: So you can't stop you can't.
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Speaker 7: You basically can't ban them.
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Speaker 6: You can't like locally, like a local community can't put in like a city or town ordinance against pitbull.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, or like a public housing ordinance against it.
00:41:37
Speaker 6: Yeah, or like even like an h O A couldn't like ban pitbull no.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 7: So that was that was a big mistake by Florida.
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Speaker 4: In my opinion, it's like a It's like when they get siopped into those hair discriminations.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but Pitbull the Rapper probably would be really upset with a pit Bull band in Florida.
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Speaker 7: I'm just saying, could we ban Pitbull the Rapper?
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Speaker 6: No, but I mean it's just bad for business if there's a pit bull band, I mean, that's bad for business. If we ban rappers that headline Pitbull band Florida, like, that's not great for I mean, a better record label was probably had a lobbyist involved.
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Speaker 3: With that, So might be right just saying no, Send in your comments, send in your questions. What do you think about the pit ball question? Let's go around the horn. Give everyone, give out your coordinates because it is a shorter episode today. It is what it is.
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Speaker 10: We do what we have to do.
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Speaker 3: Uh right, Nationalists?
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Speaker 1: Okay?
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00:42:45
Speaker 3: Check it out.
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Speaker 7: And I'm Blake.
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Speaker 4: You can see me on the opposite side there every day on the Charlie Kirk Show. And then also I liked it better when I wasn't on social media, but events have conspired to force me onto it.
00:43:39
Speaker 7: So I met Blake sneff on X. I tweet maybe three times a day.
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Speaker 3: Got it by the way. By the way, Tyler, my brother's out of Adam, Minneapolis, just saying, just saying, if you're looking for some good hardened door knockers out there.
00:43:53
Speaker 6: You have a you have a Somali brother. I didn't know that. That's cool.
00:43:57
Speaker 3: Look. All you have to do is feed him brice bananas. That's literally he will work for more rice and bananas. If you just keep like a like a like a bag, like a juicy bag filled with place and bananas, that's all you need. Can you can just sleep on the street. He's not used to you know, like like the niceties of modern life or anything like that.
00:44:13
Speaker 4: It's kind of like a ur Basically, getting getting out, getting out the vote is a lot more than bananas and rice.
00:44:18
Speaker 6: Jack.
00:44:19
Speaker 7: It's like bananas and rice.
00:44:22
Speaker 6: It's like it's like uh, commandeering a ship. It's a little bit like that.
00:44:28
Speaker 3: Get me a little bit like comming during the ship and saying I'm the captain now.
00:44:31
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a little bit like running a daycare center.
00:44:34
Speaker 6: It's a little bit like not running the daycare center every day.
00:44:37
Speaker 3: Actually, hey, you know what they say, guys, you live and you learn. You live and you learn. Ladies and gentlemen as always go out there and commit more thought crime.
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