THOUGHTCRIME Ep, 112—NYC Dinks? Greenland Monopoly? Salary Cap?

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This was a big question we had, was Jack gonna make it? 00:01:32 Speaker 5: Can you guys see me like I'm literally on a camera. No, we have this technology. 00:01:37 Speaker 3: Well, and they came to me. 00:01:39 Speaker 4: They came to me Jack, which I thought was clue for you know, Jack's not with us. 00:01:45 Speaker 6: I'm I'm really sad. We didn't have Jack on on phone though, because we actually whipped up a calling graphic for him that we had. We took an events photo and we fed it through the Chad filter on Snapchat. 00:01:56 Speaker 3: We just see it anyways and. 00:01:57 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, do we have that loaded up? 00:01:58 Speaker 1: We should? 00:01:59 Speaker 6: We should load it up anyway because it's great. 00:02:01 Speaker 3: You're gonna make you look awesome. Jack. I just want you to know we had. 00:02:04 Speaker 6: Ye throws as there we are we are. 00:02:09 Speaker 7: I think that's the Greenland giga chat, right cha. 00:02:13 Speaker 5: I thought you said you guys were gonna put a filter on this. 00:02:15 Speaker 1: Where's the filter? That's that's just a normal. 00:02:18 Speaker 7: You know how many people after your post asked me if like you were in Greenland, Like, I got so many questions you you had to have got asked like a million times. 00:02:26 Speaker 5: No, So actually, wait a minute, I gotta send you guys, have to send this in the chat because so I literally people are like, wait, how are you back in the studio? So I flew from Davos all the way back. I'm back in studio right now. But check this out. I flew over Greenland today and I actually got to like see parts of Greenland, So oh yeah, I meta. That's Carolyn Levitt and Sonny Jaye Nelson right outside like literally right outside the President And that's you know, with the Alps in the background there, and that's that's the entrance to the World Economic Forum. Davos is kind of a dump, by the way. It's like one of the worst cities in the world just in terms of a city. Like you'd never want to go there for tourism. It's I suppose the skiing is like okay, but it's not even really good for like you. 00:03:08 Speaker 6: Know, really what makes it so bad? Counting me with that big it's it's only a few thousand people, right, what's the equival. 00:03:14 Speaker 5: It's literally it's it's a dumped And I remember when I when I went there four years ago, when when I got detained for when I was there with Turning Point and we called into the Charlie Kirk Show. I remember saying the same thing, like everyone thinks Davos is some like high end luxury town, and no it's not. It's like super dumpy. It's like really nothing to write home about. Again, the view is amazing, there's no question about that. It's the Alps. It's it's literally one of the most gorgeous places in the world, of course, no question. But the city itself just it's it's run down, it's kind of it's kind of dingy. There aren't really any like luxury hotels. There's there's like one out you have to drive where. So like where Trump was staying was all the way outside of town just because that's the only place you could go to get something like halfway decent. 00:03:56 Speaker 7: So what's the equivalent in America of Davos. 00:03:58 Speaker 5: Oh, gosh, equivalent Burlington. Man, See if I were to say that and see now now I'm gonna like, now I'm going to offend somebody. It's basically like, okay, all right. Put it this way. Imagine picture this beach resort, all right, but now beach resort in New Jersey. 00:04:20 Speaker 7: I've seen this, I've seen this. I'm not going to say anything because I feel like the hatred, the amount of hatred that I would get. 00:04:28 Speaker 3: You're not saying what's. 00:04:31 Speaker 5: The towns because because there's some decent beach towns like Cave Made for example, I know your fan. 00:04:39 Speaker 7: You cannot trash Jersey Shore anything you will. 00:04:43 Speaker 3: The wrath. 00:04:45 Speaker 1: Is very nice. We're actually going to be talking about Atlantic City. 00:04:48 Speaker 4: And Myrtle Beach is like I love, No, it's magic country. 00:04:54 Speaker 3: I will wait, wait, wants. 00:04:57 Speaker 5: Great example, which was awful, just like Ocean City, Maryland. Just terrible, just absolutely terrible. Yeah, like the Carnival cruise of beach towns. 00:05:06 Speaker 7: Is it like Atlantic City? Maybe you could say it's. 00:05:09 Speaker 5: Like Atlantic City now basically I mean as compared to like like I growing up, we used to always go to Atlantic City. So I remember Atlantic City when it was in its heyday. 00:05:18 Speaker 1: When I was a kid. 00:05:19 Speaker 5: We stayed actually like one night at the Trump taj Mahal because like my dad had this like conference in town, and I remember bringing like my saga Genesis. I was all excited so I could play Sonic in the hotel room. But yes, we actually stayed at the Trump and Uh and it was like the whole town was just incredible and it ain't like that no more. It's it's so run down and like half the half the clienteller like our Chinese, like they're you know, they they have these huge like Chinese sections all over, like the Atlantic City Casino. So I forget why I was there, you know, a couple of years ago, and I was like, this whole town is just trash because basically, like FanDuel came in and you know, all Pennsylvania opened up gambling and table games and slots, so it just it didn't really have the allure, right. I think we did a segment on this a couple of shows ago. We were talking about how, you know, gambling used to be sort of this thing where it was like only Vegas or only ac and now it's like you just just do it everywhere. 00:06:13 Speaker 3: Hey, don't forget about it. 00:06:14 Speaker 1: Reason what is it? 00:06:15 Speaker 5: It's like the biggest northegiest industry right now, fastest growing industry or something. 00:06:19 Speaker 3: I think it's really bad. 00:06:20 Speaker 4: It's a really bad development that we have gambling all over the country. 00:06:23 Speaker 3: Blake probably has some stats on hand, look for it. 00:06:26 Speaker 4: But it's just a At least it was isolated and you could get away from it, and people with real bad problems could, but they had to go out of their way in order to indulge those problems. And now it's just everywhere and it's ruining a lot of young men's lives. 00:06:41 Speaker 3: It's very sad, very sad stated. 00:06:42 Speaker 5: But I'm sending in this footage because I actually, for the I don't think I've ever actually seen Greenland before, and I saw Greenland there. 00:06:50 Speaker 3: It is here, we go, we'll send it over. 00:06:53 Speaker 5: So we'll have them pulled up. It was gorgeous. The mountains were really cool to see. When people don't people don't realize, by the way, that there's a funny like climate change thing you can talk about because people like, well, it's all all ice wise, it all ice, yes, But because when the Vikings found it, it was so green that you could actually like there were parts of southern Greenland they found it. What it was like nine hundred eighty basically leave Erikson and all, so you could we're sneezing from there. 00:07:19 Speaker 6: Sorry, yeah, sorry about that. No, No, I mean I don't think it was quite like that. I think they named it Greenland because it was a scam and they wanted to get people to move there from Iceland. Sound better. 00:07:28 Speaker 5: No, you could actually farm. You can look it up. 00:07:30 Speaker 6: You could, you could. It was you could farm there, and it wasn't farming. 00:07:34 Speaker 5: They had sheep. They had all that upright up until about the fourteen hundreds, and then there was what's called the little ice Age came about. It just wiped that all out well. 00:07:42 Speaker 4: And then recently the sea lanes have opened back up around the ice sheet. So it is kind of an emission that there has been you know, ice that's melting. 00:07:52 Speaker 3: Is that you? This is you this? 00:07:55 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is my footage. It's sideways for some reason, but but yeah, that that's me filming that out of the plane today, looking at at Greenland right there, surveying my So I'm i announced my candidacy for I want to be the first governor of Greenland. I've got the map there on the on the back of the of the chair as proof, and so I'm announcing my candidacy for the Governor of Greenland. I would make an excellent Governor of Greenland. I know all about protecting borders, and look, these are going to be new borders that need to be protected from who, Somalian pirates and Somalian scammers. Under my administration, I will make sure that not one Somali scammer sets foot on any any foot of snow, not even one foot of snow will be graced by a Somalian scammer's foot. 00:08:40 Speaker 1: That is my promise to the great people of Greenland. 00:08:43 Speaker 3: I would vote for you, Jack, I would there, I would vote go absolutely. Shall we get into it, yes, all. 00:08:49 Speaker 6: Right, we have a very important topic that we need to jump into immediately, and it's it's one that I can know Charlie would have loved a lot, and I'm very sad we can't hear how he would react to this, because we need to talk about the dinks and the Henry's all right, So a dink is dual income, no kids, It's a large number of annoying upper middle class professionals on the East End sometimes West Coast, lots of gays, lots of gays, lots of gay men with straight women, lots of just lots. 00:09:23 Speaker 5: Of place I ever heard dink was was when I lived in China. Actually, that was a huge thing in China when I was there. 00:09:29 Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you were making fun of their language. Okay, keep that. 00:09:32 Speaker 6: And then so lots of dinks and even in the fairly Odd Parents if your kids ever watched that or something. The next door neighbors that his dad is mba stuff are called the Dnklebergs, and they don't have kids, and they always have more stuff than his family. That's probably reference anyway, dinks. And then we're talking about Henry was also the. 00:09:49 Speaker 7: Name of the neighbors, and and Doug remembered Doug. 00:09:54 Speaker 5: I think you're right. 00:09:54 Speaker 6: Actually they might have been man, that's like ancient history. Wait, Doug, it fell out. 00:10:00 Speaker 8: And if they don't have shits, I've never heard of that. 00:10:02 Speaker 6: Someone look at that Henry's. So we have Henry's, which means hy earner, not rich yet, And that is a term. We have all these fun acronyms, and they're coming from another acronym, the fire community. Do you guys know about fire? So fire is financially independent, retire early. It's people whose lives revolve around trying to save money as much as possible so they can quit their jobs instead of the normal go work till your sixty five or work forever or whatever. Charlie, as we know, was not a fan of the concept of retirement. They want to retire asap. They want to try to hoard money, retire at thirty five, and then live off of whatever they've saved from that point on, either through passive income or just not spending money. And it leads to a lot of very entertaining content. And so this one, this one went viral. This was on reddity. They're all congregating on a reddit. Not not a good sign. We need to talk and oh, we easily could, but we need to talk about this thread that happened the other day. And it was on the Henry Finance subreddit and they have a whole subredd Oh they do. Oh they have many subreddits. And so the Henry Finance threat is how do Henry's afford to start a family in New York City? So let's just read it here, Happy twenty twenty six. We are a thirty seven year old man and a twenty eight year old woman, dink couple in New York City, interested in starting a family, but feel we don't have any good options for how to proceed. I'm interested in what other Henrys think about starting a family in a VH coal vehicle. I don't know, very high cost of living city while staying on the fire track, or maybe giving up on fire to have kids. Any advice would be appreciated. So this is a family. 00:11:44 Speaker 3: They're worried. 00:11:44 Speaker 6: They're worried that they might just have to give up on kids or give up on financial independence because it's just too expensive. Can we guess what their income is that makes them concerned that they can't save any money while having kids in mine? 00:11:57 Speaker 5: Well? 00:11:58 Speaker 6: Does does anyone else not see it? Do you have a guest? 00:12:00 Speaker 3: Tyler? Hmm? 00:12:02 Speaker 7: I don't have a guess? 00:12:03 Speaker 3: All right? 00:12:03 Speaker 6: Well, the answer is they make over nine hundred thousand dollars. So the person one is a senior something in big tech. He makes four hundred and twenty thousand. The second person is an associate at a D tier investment bank, not a prestigious investment bank. Lower tier only makes three hundred and forty thousand dollars. Basically, Starvation Wages described. 00:12:23 Speaker 3: As his wife as being part of a D tier. 00:12:26 Speaker 6: Well, he only says person one in person two, I'm just sextictally, sexistly assuming, and maybe you know, I could make a lot of jokes here, but I won't anyway. So with some other investments they have, they make over nine hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year, but their reliable income is only seven hundred thousand. Some of that is not is a little more tenuous, So seven hundred thousand dollars a year. And so he's thinking, how can we afford a family? And he lays out their expenses to make it clear how much it would be a struggle to add a child to this. So they have one hundred and thirteen thousand non discretionary spending. This is ninety seven thousand a year on rent, seven thousand on groceries, six thousand on bills in two thousand on riding the New York subway. Wait, how much two thousand on transit? On transit, he says. And then they have one hundred and seventy three thousand dollars in discretionary spending. This is their optional spending. Let's lay it out here. 00:13:20 Speaker 3: We have. 00:13:22 Speaker 6: Thirty two thousand dollars a year on dining out. We have twenty thousand dollars a year on entertainment. We have twelve thousand dollars a year on personal care, we have forty two thousand dollars a year on shopping, and we have wait for it, sixty six thousand dollars a year on travel. And I read that and all I could think of is I think I could travel full time and I could not spend sixty six thousand dollars a year. Yeah, I don't think that that does not match my daily spend while traveling. 00:13:55 Speaker 3: Blake would just sleep on like sidewalks and things like that. 00:13:58 Speaker 6: No, you could just stay in like a cheap airbase. These things are not expensive or like hostels. 00:14:02 Speaker 3: When I was broken, traveling a cologized dated. 00:14:05 Speaker 6: Hostels even going to like when I was in Italy in October, my friend and I were booking rooms like only one night in advance, and it was like under one hundred euros a night. 00:14:15 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:14:18 Speaker 4: Hey guys, if you've been a faithful Kirk podcast listener for any amount of time, then you've probably already heard about strong cell. It was Charlie's favorite supplement. 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And don't forget to use special discount code Charlie at checkout to get a special twenty percent off just for Kirk listeners. Strong Sell dot com forward slash Charlie. Check it out right now. 00:15:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean listen. I find this interesting. Actually the most interesting part about their question is they are wondering if they should abandon fire, which again define the acronym. 00:15:41 Speaker 6: It's Henry high income high fire's financial independence. Retire early, retire early. 00:15:47 Speaker 4: So their whole value prop is based around this idea, I want to quit my job as early as possible and just retire. So they are willing to even ask the question of whether or not they they should have kids because this will screw up their fire plans. Yes, so there's obviously an entire fire community that's highly developed, that's highly ideological, and this is what their big impediment is. 00:16:11 Speaker 3: Did we look at any of the answer. 00:16:14 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just it's it's funny and striking to me because I've never even asked this question before. Like I've never even wondered should I have kids or not have kids because I want to retire. 00:16:23 Speaker 6: It's a huge value decay. And I mean, I guess I don't have kids yet. But it's fundamentally insane to me that you would reject kids for that reason. But it is that is the way values have evolved, where people they just prioritize these retirement plans, think even the idea of like the kind of retire early as your main goal in life. I understand why people do that. It does point towards people have jobs that they feel don't give them any meaning and they really hate doing them, and that can be a product of work itself, like a lot of office jobs are terrible. But Charlie, as we said, Charlie really believed that retirement should not be something you aspire to. You might not always have the same role. Like once you get old, maybe you should step away from running a big organization and focus on philanthropy or community engagement. You know, take a job at your church and you know, dial things back. 00:17:13 Speaker 7: Teaching, teaching, I think, I think retirees, which I think we're screwing up everything in America. We should have people that have done something and they're on the precipice of retiring. We should be encouraging them and facilitating. 00:17:26 Speaker 6: A lot of people do do that. I know, lawyers, they've stepped away and they become a. 00:17:32 Speaker 7: Lot of people, especially at community college level. A lot of community college professors are that way. 00:17:37 Speaker 4: But we should do that more substitute teaching at high school level. And I was like, which to me sounds terrible, but I mean, there you go, by the way, this is so what I thought of instantly, And Angelo actually flagged this for me, Jack. 00:17:50 Speaker 3: Do you know idiocracy? Have you ever heard of that in the movie? Yeah? 00:17:55 Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, I like money, so. 00:17:58 Speaker 3: So fozzy Oz you flagged this for me because. 00:18:03 Speaker 5: Finally I just told them that I could talk to plants, and the plants told me that they didn't want Brondo, they wanted water. 00:18:12 Speaker 3: See. 00:18:13 Speaker 4: I've never seen the movie, so I'm not even we actually have a clip from it. 00:18:16 Speaker 3: No, that's what That's what I'm segueing to. 00:18:18 Speaker 4: My first thought was this is really insulting because Mexicans live like four four people, four families to an apartment. They'll just completely, you know, have eight kids each and live in I'm quarter Mexican, it's true. 00:18:36 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that kid I ran you were soliciting that in a Seriously, when I was in Davos, they had Javier from rab Vespaniol so you guys know that that rap bespaniol is kicking off now. Javier was like, Javier is like Jack, you have to learn some you have to learn some Spanish. And I was like, well, on thar Crime, you know, or on Charlie kirkshow we got the Mexican co host, so you know who does speak some he's pretty pretty handy. 00:19:01 Speaker 1: With it with the Espanol. 00:19:06 Speaker 6: Taken America. I don't I don't know, Max, I don't know how to speak. 00:19:12 Speaker 7: We're taking we've taken Andrew down to the border and he's negotiating peace deals, which I'm trying. 00:19:17 Speaker 3: To cart, you know, because see Andrew gets Andrew. 00:19:21 Speaker 5: Andrew always goes so hard on the border because because deep down he's kind of like conflicted. He's like he's like, hey, maybe maybe just a few It's. 00:19:30 Speaker 6: Okay, just one or two, Okay. I told you that a little translation would be America. 00:19:40 Speaker 5: We always have to check Andrew's loyalty to America. 00:19:43 Speaker 4: I'm just saying he's, no, I passed the I passed it. I passed the what is the totem right, the the who won the battle? 00:19:51 Speaker 1: The Almo? 00:19:52 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 00:19:53 Speaker 5: But I'm just like you have to say, make sure that it's that it's in good standing. 00:19:58 Speaker 3: Oh man, you know it's funny. 00:20:00 Speaker 4: I am like cimporciento Americano, like I'm one hundred percent. I mean, I am about as American as it cuts. Because even my Mexican family, Mexican families, I didn't he didn't even admit that we were Mexican. We had to go like do twenty three and me to figure it out. Anyways, he was my grandpa. That was one hundred percent Mexican. Was racist against Mexican. 00:20:20 Speaker 6: Another good test besides the Alamo thing, is just like how much relate to the Mexican how much do you relate to brit It like British history as like your ancestors. I was actually in a discussion with some Brits because I'm much more German heritage than British Isles. But like I care much more about the English, like English history. I love to read about English Civil War, the Kings, all of that, and I don't know nearly as much German history. What happened in ten sixty six ten, that's easy asking me what any other year? 00:20:47 Speaker 8: Come on, that's Blake's sign. He doesn't know. 00:20:49 Speaker 6: No, no, it's a battle of Hastings. Everybody knows about Are you going on about this? 00:20:55 Speaker 4: I have to slay idiocracy, this case study. This is the difference between Henry's and Dinks and like Mexicans, which I will claim proudly. 00:21:05 Speaker 6: Having kids is such an important decision. 00:21:10 Speaker 2: This is making the right time New York. 00:21:12 Speaker 6: It's not something you want to rush into obviously, No way I'm pregnant A damn. 00:21:20 Speaker 3: You mean damn kids. 00:21:22 Speaker 9: I thought you was on the pills and kill No, must have been Brittany. 00:21:30 Speaker 6: There's no way we could have a child now, not with the market only make a million dollars a year. 00:21:35 Speaker 7: That just wouldn't make any sense. 00:21:38 Speaker 8: You don't care about sheep. 00:21:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna look. 00:21:41 Speaker 8: He likes him to hear. 00:21:47 Speaker 3: You want to be. 00:21:50 Speaker 5: Well, we finally decided to have children. 00:21:52 Speaker 1: And I'm not pointing fingers, but it's. 00:21:55 Speaker 6: Not going well, and this is helping. 00:21:59 Speaker 8: I'm just saying that before. 00:22:00 Speaker 6: For I have in vitro, maybe you should be willing. 00:22:02 Speaker 7: She's always me. 00:22:03 Speaker 5: Right, well, not my sperm count. 00:22:09 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:22:16 Speaker 6: Clevon is lucky to be alive. 00:22:18 Speaker 9: He attempted to jump a jet ski from a lake into a swimming pool. 00:22:21 Speaker 6: And impaled his crotch on an iron gate. 00:22:24 Speaker 9: But thanks to recent advances in stem cell research and the fine work of doctors Krinsky and Altschuler, Clevan should regain full reproductive functions of joke. 00:22:37 Speaker 6: Unfortunately, Trevor passed away from a heart attack while. 00:22:43 Speaker 8: To produce sperm. 00:22:44 Speaker 6: For artificial insemination. 00:22:46 Speaker 4: But I have some eggs frozen, so just as soon as the right guy comes along. 00:22:56 Speaker 3: And so it will for generation. 00:22:59 Speaker 5: Although if you have it, maeem to notice. 00:23:02 Speaker 4: But yeah, it's getting back, that is my The hardy Mexican people know how to approcreate it. You know. 00:23:07 Speaker 6: The funny thing is a few. 00:23:09 Speaker 5: Sneeze on a Mexican girl, they can get pregnant. 00:23:13 Speaker 6: One of my friends, who is has been in New Yorker of upper upper middle class professional status, argued that thirty two thousand dollars a year on dining out was a reasonable amount of Was it reasonable? Well yeah, yeah, like but it was high, but like not not absurd. And we were doing the math on this. So two people sixteen thousand a year, that's like, you know, a mere three hundred dollars a person if you're going on a date night once a week or or it could be raisinable and we could have that to one hundred fifty dollars a person. But then you're racking up one hundred and fifty per person on other stuff throughout the week, so like a thirty dollar meal the five other times a week they're traveling a lot, they are I will and that seems to count separately from dining out. 00:23:54 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, does that. 00:23:55 Speaker 7: I will, I will tell you. I mean people who are in especially the city, in like drinking culture and things like that. There have been people that have said that, I mean, they save like twenty grand a year and just like just by stopping drinking. 00:24:08 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:24:09 Speaker 6: No, it's genuinely like going out, like it's a real part of drinks when you go out, or like look at amazing it's twenty bucks plus. It's a real part of like the millennial malays, the gen z malays, or they say, you know, they can never get ahead, they're always behind. And I do think some of it is it's very easy to slip into spending too much money on that sort of thing. And you can hear them talk and they'll just say, like I'm already behind on student loans or something, and so fifty dollars on this once a week it just feels meaningless. Yet it does. It does really add up. 00:24:41 Speaker 4: And it's interesting that people I think that are middle income earners, right, they're sort of middle, middle of the road, they do feel entitled to a lifestyle that is much higher than them, which is previous generations wouldn't necessarily feel entitled to that. 00:24:56 Speaker 3: What about gen Z? Are you guys just as bad as no? 00:25:00 Speaker 8: They spend so much, Especially gen Z girls like spend an insane amount on going out. 00:25:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about y Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. 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Just go to y refi dot com and tell them your friend Andrews sent you. 00:26:07 Speaker 7: No, it's I mean, but you think about it today, Like, I mean, prices over the during Biden, inflation went up significantly, like even going to dinner now, Like you go to dinner like fastin and this and this is it's I and I think that there's actually an undercurrent of inflating some of these prices that uh, that's intentional to suppress family growth. I really do, because like people go out. I'm just gonna tell you, Like you go out and your a twenty something year old and you're you're getting ready to have a family, and you go out and it's like you and your girlfriend, you and your wife, and you spend like two hundred dollars on a dinner. Like that's there's nothing that's more mentally destructive. 00:26:52 Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, but you kind of insinuated that it was intentional to like stop family formation. But yeah, I actually think the mental market, if how expensive it is to go out and eat, it does lots the. 00:27:03 Speaker 8: Markets changed, right Like what b nps all that. 00:27:06 Speaker 7: You know what though markets change, like the market's not directed at families. It's it's like, that's what I'm saying. Restaurants are directed not like attracting big families like they did like America in the eighties and nineties even where like hey, bring your whole family to McDonald's play places and all those family. 00:27:25 Speaker 5: To pizza huts, Pizza Huck to Pizza Hut. 00:27:30 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that was places. 00:27:32 Speaker 5: McDonald's play places, McDonald's play place, nationalism, Pizza Hut nationalism. Restaurants that actually have a children's section goes back. 00:27:43 Speaker 7: There's intentionality. There's there's intentionality in all these mega corporations that are owned by like Bane Bane Capel and all these different groups that now do not direct towards families. Now they're directing twitter small groups. 00:27:58 Speaker 5: I think we're another sat car SiZ Tyler. Do you remember when they when they started forcing everyone to like they were trying to get everyone to buy those like tiny cars. They're like, oh, it's it's only got two seeds. It's all you need really forgetting around the big city. It's only got two seeds and like no trunk. 00:28:16 Speaker 3: Get the men who drove had two seats and zero balls. 00:28:22 Speaker 5: Anyways, Yeah, and it was like I remember I had that exact same thought that Tyler was just mentioning when when they when they introduced those things the very I don't even know what youre That was maybe like two thousand and five. I remember thinking like, how can you have a family if you have one of these? 00:28:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, this doesn't make any sense. 00:28:40 Speaker 5: I think, Oh, they don't want people to have family. 00:28:44 Speaker 3: We have it reversed. 00:28:45 Speaker 7: Have you studied Agenda twenty one. 00:28:48 Speaker 6: I don't think Agenda twenty one. 00:28:49 Speaker 5: I'm totally with Tyler. 00:28:50 Speaker 3: Now we was not having kids and they adapted to the market. 00:28:54 Speaker 5: He was just because I had the same thought. No, I had the exact same thought about the cars. I had the exact same thought. 00:29:00 Speaker 3: Houses the market really like who is pushing this? 00:29:04 Speaker 5: And then and now like the YouTube algorithm just serves everything to you that that want. And that's that's what Trump talked about at at Davos, right, because when he went up to Davos and was talking about the when you know, certain people got to be in the room that he was, you know, talking about home ownership, and he was that he was doing that to repudiate the whole you will own nothing and you will be happy. He's like I want young people to own a home. I want young people to be homeowners. We're going to make that happen in the United States. 00:29:33 Speaker 1: And uh personally like like you know, not. 00:29:36 Speaker 5: That I'm one, I'm going to give President United States notes, but I would have loved to see another line in there, like like. 00:29:42 Speaker 1: And you know something. 00:29:43 Speaker 5: It's ownership and owning things and building things that actually give you meaning. And it's meaning that gives you happiness, not you'll own nothing. We have a very important dates aren't happy. 00:29:56 Speaker 6: Dinks are not things? Yeah, dinks are miserable. It's not it's not good news. 00:29:59 Speaker 3: Dings are. 00:30:00 Speaker 6: We have a very important breakthrough. Someone has pointed out Angle's nest has pointed out that Andrew has a jacket on and thought crime is a no jacket zone. Take it off, it off. 00:30:11 Speaker 5: He's doing it for like two weeks now cold. 00:30:14 Speaker 3: Oh no, this is called. 00:30:18 Speaker 5: Mexico. 00:30:19 Speaker 8: I love it. 00:30:20 Speaker 3: I don't. I only wear jack because Charlie wore a jackets. 00:30:23 Speaker 6: Wear a jacket on this, don't ask studio asked him for God to make you a stronger. 00:30:30 Speaker 8: Man, Like where'd your blanket go from the other day? 00:30:32 Speaker 6: I don't know. 00:30:34 Speaker 3: We poke this. 00:30:35 Speaker 8: Isn't This isn't a. 00:30:37 Speaker 7: Snug Yeah, I didn't didn't have I'm actually in my airplane basically snuggy. 00:30:45 Speaker 6: And people aren't dressing right on airplanes anymore. 00:30:47 Speaker 3: Thing. 00:30:47 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's it. That's what we'll have to do that another week. What it's appropriate to wear an airplanes. 00:30:51 Speaker 1: This is what we're on the airplane. 00:30:52 Speaker 6: We want to get to another topic before I think we can agree the dinks are out of control. This will be we should keep hitting that and the I actually, I just think it's so fascinating and I think there's something really deep there that we're missing about the fact that the more money you have, the way you approach child rearing and begetting children in procreation, Like it's really really depressing actually because you don't need that much money to have children. 00:31:17 Speaker 3: You can actually do it. You can actually do it. 00:31:19 Speaker 4: But white middle class dinks in this sort of thing doesn't even have to be white middle class. But the expectation is that your lifestyle has to be so high, and then you get to the end of your life, you spend all that money. You probably didn't fire retire early anyways, you probably had to work longer, and you don't remember any of it. You don't remember those stupid little trips, did you dig? 00:31:38 Speaker 5: This is an example Actually I actually have a vote to explain this. This is an example of prol drift, Blake, I think, do we do an episode about Parle? 00:31:46 Speaker 6: I think we did. 00:31:47 Speaker 5: Yeah, So prole drift is this idea that like certain things kind of like come up from the proletaria class, like the working class, and then they go up, but then like the upper classes like maybe mess around with it for a little bit, but eventually a shoe can go back to traditional ways. So you're right Andrew to say that it's the Henry's right. This is like upper middle class. But if you get to the actual rich, they don't live like this. 00:32:09 Speaker 3: No, they don't have babies at all. 00:32:11 Speaker 5: They're actually very conservative, like in the way they live. 00:32:15 Speaker 3: Well there, by the way, that's why we live. 00:32:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why we've seen. Sorry to cut you off, Jack, I didn't mean to talk over you. But that's why when you get it to the really really rich people, they're having a ton of kids, like they're they're unmost for babies per couple. 00:32:29 Speaker 5: Elon who elosurprise. I didn't by the way, I didn't know Elon was going to be at Davos. I definitely I was like I would have stayed, like somebody could have told me. 00:32:36 Speaker 7: But uh yeah. 00:32:37 Speaker 6: I was talking to Cremew recently and he pointed out, I think, uh, child, you doing among well. So just in general, children has at least I think among white Americans at least average number of children is no longer dysgenic as it were, Like it's no longer it's now an upper till you have more kids, the higher you earn overall on average, there's still there's still the trough like upper in like upper middle class income is still really bad. They're the ones, these henry people are actually probably earning too much to count for it, but they're most common is people earning like three hundred thousand dollars and they're like, I can't afford more than what. 00:33:10 Speaker 4: Well, there is a middle class trap in our tax code. Like for real, you can make three to five hundred thousand dollars, you're at the max of the tax bracket. 00:33:18 Speaker 3: You can never get ahead. 00:33:19 Speaker 4: You can never get because what ends up happening it's a both and I will say, you end up spending more. But then you're getting tax more, and so you're actually never really able to make traction and get up to that, to that. 00:33:30 Speaker 5: Well, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, since we're talking about making money. 00:33:36 Speaker 6: Oh yes, let's go, let's go. So I like this was a topic came up. This came up because we were debating whether Greenland Greenland sale would happen, and Jack said, of course, Greenland's for sale. He says, it's like Monopoly. Everything's always for saleht. Yeah, sorry, we got to get this another way. 00:33:57 Speaker 5: Sorry that you suck at Monopoly. Yes, everything is for sale always. 00:34:01 Speaker 6: Yes, everything's for sale. Although I guess maybe it wasn't for sale enough because pockets a bit were for sale. You can buy one of them. 00:34:08 Speaker 3: That's just one. 00:34:09 Speaker 5: That's no, no, no, phase one. As you get the deed, then then you build the bases. But once he builds four bases, then he can build the megacity. 00:34:17 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:34:17 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, so as it happens. Since we made the Monopoly comparison, Jack, I actually have the Monopoly board here, and if you look at you, we were going to. 00:34:26 Speaker 3: Talk about it later. 00:34:27 Speaker 6: If you have the green Lands on the Monopoly board, okay, okay, Well if you look at the monopoly, we can't see it. 00:34:33 Speaker 5: You guys are the If you look at. 00:34:35 Speaker 6: A monopoly board, there are three green properties. They're the ones next apart place in Boardwalk. 00:34:40 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, North Carolina, Pennsylvania. 00:34:43 Speaker 5: That's one of the new boards. 00:34:44 Speaker 6: Pacific Avenue, which they're not well named. 00:34:47 Speaker 4: Because those ones is because it was like two hundred wasn't it like two hundred house on those. 00:34:52 Speaker 3: Something like that. They're not nearly as good as Blue, Yeah, and then Blue. 00:34:55 Speaker 1: You know why the names are like that though, right? 00:34:57 Speaker 6: Atlantic City? 00:34:59 Speaker 5: Yeah, so all the names are based on streets in Atlantic City. 00:35:03 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And it's very funny, like the whole thing is based on some Georgeist plot to argue that we need a land tax and everything, and so is it really, yes, it is. It was called the Landlord's Game, and the entire point was that making like that if you had landlords who could just charge money on things, then it will like drive everyone to poverty and bankruptcy and no one can get ahead. Back to that property text date we had the other day. 00:35:28 Speaker 4: Yeah, because there's only it's a zero sum game. It's a winner take off exactly. 00:35:33 Speaker 6: But we did want to hit it. So I guess we have a few different man. I was looking here, I was looking at the tokens that come in this game, and you know what's missing from the sets we all had growing up. They don't have the iron anymore, which the iron is definitely. 00:35:48 Speaker 5: I remember the iron. 00:35:49 Speaker 6: Yeah, Now I don't remember anyone's favorite. 00:35:54 Speaker 5: It was the iron where yeah, you know it's I it's just like an iron just to wait, yeah, well. 00:36:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's not like it's not like the electric irons we have now. Yeah, you have to put it on the top of the wood stove or whatever. 00:36:06 Speaker 5: So the tokens we have in this version, what do you mean we I don't iron. 00:36:09 Speaker 6: The tokens we have in this version we have the we have a top something called we have the top wife. 00:36:15 Speaker 3: We have she's Eastern European, it's different. 00:36:18 Speaker 6: We have a little kind of terrier dog like the things, the Yorkshire terrier. 00:36:23 Speaker 3: Yorkshire terrier. 00:36:24 Speaker 6: I don't know is that in the original Yep, all right. 00:36:26 Speaker 4: At least everything I've ever every Monopoly board I've ever played. 00:36:30 Speaker 8: I don't remember the dog ever, I do. 00:36:32 Speaker 3: It could be new. A few years back, we partnered with a company called Blackout Coffee. And here's the thing. 00:36:39 Speaker 4: There's a lot of patriotic coffee brands out there, but when things get hot, some of them, Let's be honest. 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But if you go back to the original originals, the tokens are like completely different. 00:38:27 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm looking at what I remember from, yeah, the one growing up, and I think some of these were at least around by the fifties. It's like after World War Two you had a pretty good run of like similar tokens. So we have the thimble. The thimble has been around. Yeah, it's interesting they have this one. The reason they did this was the original original monopoly did not have tokens, and they was basically like pick items in your home, and so people would use buttons or thimbles because they would have sewing kits at home. We have the race car. That's a classic one that does date to the thirties. So you got to keep the racer, do you know. It was a great depression, so yet your took off. But these are all new. I don't remember these, got it. I don't remember these from the version I had growing up. We have the money bag. I think this was added in the late nineties. It's like a sack of money. It kind of looks like a baked potato in your And then these I have no memory the original. Hold on, hold on, let's let's go through the tokens. And then we have I don't remember any of these. We have a rubber ducky. 00:39:22 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:39:23 Speaker 6: We have a putty cat. 00:39:25 Speaker 8: We just have like a house cat. 00:39:26 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the that's the brand new one you just and then we have a penguin. 00:39:31 Speaker 6: Definitely don't remember a penguin. 00:39:33 Speaker 3: These are all new Yeah so. 00:39:35 Speaker 5: Wait, so Blake, if is that the one that has the new the new rules where they actually warn about house rules. They warn you about this. Oh, let's take a look, because so, Tyler, you were telling me you were like really big on house rules. 00:39:50 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, oh yes, it does. 00:39:52 Speaker 6: It says your game are rules. House rules could be making your Monopoly game longer. Never put cash in the middle of the board. You don't get a bonus for landing on free parking, always auction when someone doesn't want to buy the property they've landed on, and never loan money to other players or make deals not to charge each other rent. And so it's so funny because it is true. It's like people have that. They'll say, I don't want to play Monopoly, it takes too long, and then they make rules that make the game longer. 00:40:24 Speaker 7: Yeah, you cannot do you cannot put money in it. You will not play Monopoly with somebody that plays with money. 00:40:32 Speaker 6: But you know what sickening, Jack, This is truly seconding. So they have this warning on Monopoly, but they have a sinister agenda because while we were buying this Monopoly set at Target, I saw they had for sale next to it expansions for Monopoly expansion. And one of them is called the Free Parking Expansion and it's just a we included actual pieces and such to make the getting money when you land on free Parking thing or reality, except they supercharged it. Like you can basically win the lottery when you get on it, or you can get a token. 00:41:04 Speaker 5: There's one where you can property, there's one where you can buy. There's one where you can buy everything, like you could buy go, you could buy the jail. You can buy like the tax that like all the different yeah, those, and then the last one is a jail that sounds really cool. 00:41:18 Speaker 6: They have a jail expansion and apparently in that one you can like go to jail, but you can get corruption tokens while in jail and then use these to not pay rent or even you land on some make them pay the rent because you're like extorting them. 00:41:33 Speaker 3: So guess what the first game pieces were. 00:41:35 Speaker 6: First game pieces? 00:41:36 Speaker 3: Yeah? Iron? 00:41:38 Speaker 6: An iron? 00:41:38 Speaker 4: Okay, a thimble, a thimble, that's what every A shoe? Oh I remember the shoe a shoe in the top hat and get this one two that I did not know. 00:41:48 Speaker 3: A cannon. 00:41:50 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, the cannon. 00:41:51 Speaker 3: I remember the battleship. 00:41:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, I bet it's like yeah, that was in nineteen thirty five. By nineteen thirty six they had a rocking horse, a purse, a lantern, and it just it varied in nineteen thirty six, nineteen thirty seven. They brought the dog in nineteen and so that lasted until after World War Two, and so then they had the battleship, the boot or shoe, cannon, horse and rider, iron, race car, Scottie dog. I think that's the Scotti dog, right. 00:42:21 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there was a horse dembole, top hat, wheelbarrow, wheelbar. 00:42:24 Speaker 7: A guy on a horse that like the horse is like up on its time legs. 00:42:27 Speaker 6: Right, I don't remember that. 00:42:29 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:42:30 Speaker 6: I feel like it's like it's taken a risk. 00:42:32 Speaker 1: Like it has a platform. 00:42:34 Speaker 4: So I think they added the penguin, the t rex. There's a t rex one, a rubber duck, and a penguin. They added that in twenty seventeen. So they started getting super f and G during twenty. 00:42:51 Speaker 6: Guess we're just lucky like in twenty twenty and we didn't get a monopoly that has like the protest fist, like a BLM flat. 00:43:00 Speaker 7: But this is interesting because this is must have been what men were interested in. The horse and rider, a battleship, a cannon and a top hat and women it was iron thimble like shoe and scotti daya like that. That's kind of interesting and. 00:43:19 Speaker 6: I wonder, I wonder if the reason they used those was that maybe those were common in other board games at the time, or that people would use little model. 00:43:27 Speaker 4: Toys sack of money, sack of money, sack of money. We have a fan pull at an eleventh token in nineteen ninety nine, and that was the sack of money. 00:43:36 Speaker 8: I don't remember though, the sack of money at any point. 00:43:39 Speaker 3: I don't remember me can I see it? 00:43:41 Speaker 5: The So So here's the thing, right, the problem with these, with the with all the house rules, is that people don't understand that when you inject more money into the system, that inflates everything and you're just you're essentially creating a money printer rather than actually let the economy stay at the at the level of equilibrium. 00:44:03 Speaker 1: That it would. 00:44:04 Speaker 5: This is why that it actually would. This is why people don't understand inflation. This is like in the real world. People don't get that because you've been playing Monopoly wrong your entire lives. 00:44:16 Speaker 6: You fools. 00:44:17 Speaker 5: Stop the house rules. We have to guys, we have to take a pledge right now. Yes, I'm gonna pledge. I pledge I will no longer ever use the house rules in Monopoly. You might do the expansions, but I will never ever do the house rules again. 00:44:31 Speaker 7: Yeah, do not play, do not play by house rules. 00:44:34 Speaker 3: You mean you got to stick to the original rules, is what you're saying. 00:44:38 Speaker 4: Actually, we sometimes kind of want that expansion pack, that jail expansion. 00:44:43 Speaker 6: Is that the one that. 00:44:47 Speaker 5: Blake Is that the one where they also talk about the speed version. 00:44:50 Speaker 7: There is a speed version, So if you download the game, they actually so it's nice on the on the on the app game which I play on the airplane all the time, UH against the against all of the hard uh CPUs. They you can go through and pick house rules and do a bunch of different stuff that's on there. Or you can do a sped up version which forces every You could do it so you can go to auction on every single one and so it just like slams it. Or you can force everybody to buy uh every single time, and you can skip ahead to where there's a different dice. 00:45:27 Speaker 3: Or do you do you double when you land on go? Do you double the payout? 00:45:31 Speaker 8: That's a very I've a double on go, and I've always dee with money. 00:45:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've always played money in the middle. And then you get it if you land on parking, and then if you land on go you get double sickening. 00:45:43 Speaker 6: That's absolutely sickening. 00:45:46 Speaker 3: I'm just saying it teaches you so many. 00:45:47 Speaker 6: Important economic things, like the reason everyone's going bankrupt, everyone's going bankrupt renting is because you can't add any new properties to the board. What do you need to build new housing? 00:45:57 Speaker 7: What if? 00:45:58 Speaker 3: What if? 00:45:58 Speaker 4: The reason we have so many socialists is they literally think in terms of monopoly economics, where one person wins it all, you don't get anything, and you could just make up the new rules for the house. 00:46:13 Speaker 6: What the I don't know is that the Indian music, oh the mamdannie. Okay, gosh, you guys too many, you know, speaking of one person winning at all? Should we can we hit this tonight? Let's let's hit the salary. We need to bully Andrews here. 00:46:27 Speaker 3: So that's the whole point. 00:46:29 Speaker 6: For those of you who don't follow professional sports, there's thirty there's twenty nine teams in Major League Baseball that are competing, and then there's also the Los Angeles Dodgers, who just have a giant pile of. 00:46:40 Speaker 8: The Phillies, the Mets, the Yankees. 00:46:44 Speaker 6: No, no, no one. There used to be rich teams and then like smaller market teams. Now there's just the Dodgers. And I discovered today the Dodgers have a rigged system where they don't have to pay like their TV revenue into the general pot because they went bankrupt into twenty ten and they got this rigged deal where they get to keep more of their TV money. 00:47:04 Speaker 3: I think McCourt had to sell the company. 00:47:07 Speaker 6: Yes, the bankrupt of the team, and so the MLB gave them a special sweetheart deal. 00:47:12 Speaker 3: In court billion dollar deal paid out over twenty years. 00:47:15 Speaker 6: So they basically get an extra sixty million dollars a year in TV money that other teams don't get. Million whatever. That's more than I think the payroll of my team. 00:47:22 Speaker 3: No, that's one contract for the Dodgers every year. 00:47:25 Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, And so that's like, what who did just get Kyle what's the Kyle Tucker. 00:47:29 Speaker 4: To be honest with you, usually you don't follow into this trap, but like, there's a lot. 00:47:34 Speaker 3: Of cope coming from you right now. Yeah, because a lot. 00:47:37 Speaker 6: I'm I'm stuck being a Minnesota Twins fan and they will ever I will not. 00:47:43 Speaker 3: That's the same the George Floyd team. 00:47:46 Speaker 6: Like, come on, I mean, Minnesota is it is pretty bad? They're there's something. 00:47:49 Speaker 3: That good since you had Kirby Puckett. 00:47:52 Speaker 6: No, they were okay when they had Joe Mauer a. 00:47:54 Speaker 7: Few years ago. They had had a decent team. 00:47:56 Speaker 6: They had the they had the most home runs of anything. 00:47:58 Speaker 8: They're also like the worst division all Baseball by a mile. 00:48:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's true too. But I'm trying to think who else has succeeded in that division. 00:48:06 Speaker 8: Uh, it's been the Indians, like for the last five six years. 00:48:10 Speaker 6: I do not acknowledge in the change. 00:48:12 Speaker 3: Here's the thing. 00:48:13 Speaker 4: So you had like the Royals, the Royals won, right, Yeah. Baseball is different than NBA. It's even different than the NFL. NFL is probably the in between sport. But you can have the best payroll in baseball and still loose and candidly. Last World Series was amazing because the Blue Jays were playing better than the Dodgers. If you watch that that whole series back, the Blue Jays were the better team. They looked better there at bats were sharper. 00:48:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. 00:48:40 Speaker 4: It was the Dodgers truly found grit and determination. It was a miraculous finish the year before they destroyed the the Yankees. 00:48:48 Speaker 3: I mean it was a five game. 00:48:49 Speaker 8: Well, and the Brewers had like the best record in baseball by like five or six games easily, and they were twenty They were twenty third out of thirty teams. I looked it up in total payroll, twenty third, and they had the best record over everybody by at least five or six games. 00:49:01 Speaker 3: And then the Dodgers swept them. And then yeah, it's. 00:49:04 Speaker 5: I think they I was looking this up the other day. So the Dodgers went. Was it like twenty thirteen when they got sold, is that right? I think it was a two billion. 00:49:12 Speaker 6: I think it was. 00:49:13 Speaker 4: It was like twenty ten, yeah, twenty ten eleven when Frank was own owner. 00:49:19 Speaker 5: But then the big but then the big story was that they signed good, heavy deal. 00:49:24 Speaker 4: Right, That's what Blake's talking about. So there was a whole series, like a couple of seasons where you had to have I forget maybe it was Comcast or something, you had to kind. 00:49:34 Speaker 1: Of like were like all the money like really built up. 00:49:37 Speaker 4: Yeah, probably they've signed that deal. But then I mean candidly, it's been it's been about a fifteen to sixteen year run of the Goggen Hind group just really running that team. Well, so they have a good farm system, they trade aggressively, they're better at analytics, they are better at player development, they're bet like, so they'll what they'll do is they you know, they got like a guy like Max Munsey who was a wash out with a's and then they redeveloped him and he's he's a really important batter. 00:50:08 Speaker 3: For them, but he's not that highly paid. 00:50:09 Speaker 4: They they raise guys up like bell and Bellinger is now in the Yankees. He was a farm system product. They have Will Smith, he was a farm system product. So yeah, they go out and get a lot of international guys. They're willing to spend money for years though. Remember when they lost the Trashtros in twenty seventeen. 00:50:25 Speaker 6: They win the trash Rows retreating. 00:50:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't go out and get anybody that was like. 00:50:30 Speaker 4: So finally in twenty seventeen, after that World Series lost, they started spending money. That's like, uh, and then they won a World Series doing that they won the UH. I believe, well, they won twenty twenty during the COVID year. 00:50:42 Speaker 6: But then they we don't need to know. We don't need a narrative. Every single thing the Dodgers have done. 00:50:46 Speaker 3: They won after they. 00:50:47 Speaker 4: Spent money on Mookie Betts. So then they spent money on Free Freeman, and then they spent money to show Hey. And now they're spending the sney they spend. They have like not they have intentionally not spent money. 00:51:01 Speaker 3: This is here's my life. 00:51:02 Speaker 6: To pay more in luxury tax than many teams do in their total payroll, and they still make more. 00:51:08 Speaker 7: The Dodgers shore go to jail. Every person involved the show Hey contract should go to jail. President Trump should come out and say no more foreigners are allowed to play baseball. 00:51:18 Speaker 3: Such crappy losers. 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It is good. 00:52:47 Speaker 6: Let me finish face. 00:52:48 Speaker 7: That's gonna bee a clipped. 00:52:49 Speaker 8: Wait. 00:52:50 Speaker 7: No more foreigners are allowed to come to America and play baseball with a structured deal like that. 00:52:55 Speaker 3: He was already in America. 00:52:57 Speaker 7: We should tax them more. I know, we should tax them more, like we should have American corporations. Yeah, subjecting poor young men like sho Hey Okhani to slavery for years like that. 00:53:09 Speaker 3: He's gonna get paid. 00:53:10 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, like get thirty years from now. 00:53:12 Speaker 4: Yeah, when he's all washed out, he's gonna get paid forty five years. Here's what I'll say, Jack, You know this, Philly could spend big. They have spent big. They actually stole some of our players. Uh turn yeah exactly. 00:53:24 Speaker 3: So here's the other thing. I'll say. 00:53:26 Speaker 4: It's good for baseball to have a villain. Just because they won two in a row. Everybody's like all butt hurt about it. Sorry, get over it. It's really hard to win one. It's extraordinarily hard to win two. 00:53:37 Speaker 3: It was a miracle. 00:53:38 Speaker 6: That's so super defensive about year three, A. 00:53:40 Speaker 4: Three p is almost impossible. If it happens, you guys can complain, it's really. 00:53:47 Speaker 1: So here's what's gonna happen. 00:53:48 Speaker 5: Though, here's here's what here's my This is the like the conspiracy theory is that the NFL is helping the The NFL is helping la to get to the Super Bowl because they want l A to have a World Series and a super Bowl because they're trying to turn l A into like the new sports town. And they really so like they just obviously like they've had Dodgers for a while and now boom they want to get they want to give them. They've got to all of a sudden, right, you know, just in the last couple of years, they've picked up They've gone from no team NFL teams to two teams. So now they need because they got what the Sofi stadium, So now what do they need? They need a super Bowl? And when you look, I'm just saying, man, when you look at some of the call the play calling in the you know, the last the last couple of playoff games, it's kind of interesting, kind of. 00:54:33 Speaker 3: Got a super Bowl? 00:54:34 Speaker 4: What are you talking about the Rams won When did they win three years with McVeigh and Stafford and Stafford? 00:54:40 Speaker 1: What I'm saying like they want to build up the Super Bowls? 00:54:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so they want them to win more Super Bowls. 00:54:46 Speaker 6: No, I don't. There's not any conservacies of this sort outside the. 00:54:54 Speaker 3: Seattle. 00:54:55 Speaker 1: They don't want or like Denver. 00:54:57 Speaker 3: Well that's not true though, That's why the Royals won. No, the NFL. This is the thing. 00:55:01 Speaker 6: This is the guys. This is why you need a salary cap. The NFL actually figured it out where by making the teams pretty comparable, they realized, oh, we're big enough, we can make a team in any city a huge deal. Kansas City is not. 00:55:12 Speaker 8: A major market to but the NFL is that comparable. Like you have organ like the Jets are terrible. 00:55:18 Speaker 6: Yeah, no matter what in the NFL. The only thing that in the NFL, the only thing that matters is how competent your organization is. And the only place you can really spend extra I guess is how much you spend on your coach, because that's not subject to a cap, but it's actually quite strict. You need a lot of skill to build a team in the NFL, in MLB, the. 00:55:36 Speaker 8: MLB just know the Oakland A's were like Moneyball was the exact thing. 00:55:39 Speaker 6: Yeah, and the Oakland Days aren't even Moneyball anymore. And they're not even in Oakland anymore. In fact, they're not a Sacramento right now. 00:55:47 Speaker 5: There's some there are some compell I didn't pull it up for the show. I literally I just flew forty four hundred miles to get here for the episode today. 00:55:53 Speaker 1: But there's some pretty compelling. 00:55:56 Speaker 5: Articles out there about how like the lineups of of how certain players get played at certain times to help with like the bedding to help like cover spreads and stuff like that, and they get played and get benched and all that, and it just it lines up in such a way where it's like, is that really just coincidental or are you talking about the NFL the NFL? 00:56:17 Speaker 6: Nah, the NFL, Like, well, there will definitely have possible. There's no way anyone could be corrupt the NFL is the NFL is not going to rig as Super Bowl because if they would do that, like there's a million other things that they would have rigged. 00:56:30 Speaker 4: Hold on, I I just want to make a point. Baseball is not the NFL. It's had an attention issue right people are tuning out of baseball. Is too slow, too long, whatever, too easy to buy a championship, having a villain to root against this that. I don't know what the exact metrics were, but I heard that they this World series was the most watched world series and basically over a decade is massive. 00:56:54 Speaker 3: Yes, it was massive. 00:56:55 Speaker 8: The ratings were counting though, like everything from Japan and all that. 00:56:59 Speaker 1: I don't know. 00:56:59 Speaker 4: I don't think they there's metrics on Japan because like a third of Japan watched or half of Japan watch. But no, no, it was it was something like twenty seven and a half million. We're watching game six and seven. Uh, it was big, big ratings for MLB. It is good for the game for everybody to hate the Dodgers and bring it on. 00:57:18 Speaker 7: I mean, by the way, I will say this, the seven game World Series. I would take that. 00:57:25 Speaker 3: No, that was great. 00:57:25 Speaker 1: I watched it. 00:57:26 Speaker 7: Yeah, over even with teams I don't care about. 00:57:28 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm Donald Trump and you guys are all the Europeans sniveling brats who are like, oh, we could defend US evs and look at Kansas City can play, and you know what, I'm like, I have bigger guys. 00:57:39 Speaker 5: Do you see, though, do you see I'm being attacked in the chat right now. I don't need to defend defend something my integrity here. People are saying, I'm saying that about the NFL because the Eagles lost, No, No, No, which they lost because they ran four verts on fourth down. The Eagles lost because the play calling on the offensive from the offensive former offensive coordinator was retarded. 00:58:00 Speaker 6: That's why the jack is saying they lost because they got the call man. 00:58:03 Speaker 3: There's a lot, there's a lot of No, they deserve a lot of coach. 00:58:09 Speaker 5: There are other there are other games like that interception that was not that. I'm sorry, there's no interceptions on the ground like this is not rugby. 00:58:16 Speaker 1: You don't get to do that. 00:58:18 Speaker 3: Oh that was crazy? Wait was that that was? 00:58:21 Speaker 9: That was? 00:58:22 Speaker 8: That was the game? 00:58:23 Speaker 5: That was That's what I'm saying. The stuff I'm talking about is not the Eagles. 00:58:26 Speaker 1: Like the Eagles. 00:58:27 Speaker 3: That was a loss, Like the inter that was that totally garbage. 00:58:32 Speaker 8: You're the NFL, you'd want Josh Allen to win that game exactly, and then for. 00:58:35 Speaker 1: Then they fire mcosh Allen. 00:58:39 Speaker 3: Why did they hate Josh Allen? No, they don't. They love any good. 00:58:42 Speaker 1: They hate him forever. 00:58:43 Speaker 8: Well, the Broncos ended up winning and Bonux broke his ankles, so they're playing with the backup quarterback anyway. 00:58:48 Speaker 9: So for. 00:58:54 Speaker 3: Because he broke interrupted us to cheer the Packers. 00:58:57 Speaker 8: Yes, what happened to the packer? 00:58:59 Speaker 4: Packers were defeated because they are because the Bears beat him, and then the Bears almost had a comeback and they lost to the quarterback is the Rams? 00:59:09 Speaker 3: You see? You see what I'm saying. 00:59:11 Speaker 6: I was this is a very lame theory. We should just have the NFL. We're gonna talk about the NFL at the coverage. Anybody says this, I'm started the guy who came up with this. We started talking about baseball. We started talking about the NFL anway, because the NFL is more exciting and the NFL is more exciting because it has a strict salary cap. 00:59:33 Speaker 5: Can I Actually? 00:59:39 Speaker 3: Because he's remote, it's harder from chime in here. What's up? Jack? Oh? 00:59:43 Speaker 5: No, I was just gonna say, speaking of the NFL, and I know we're getting getting a showtime here. There there's a game that they play at the end of the NFL season that's coming up. You guys, remember what that game is called. It's like the one game where like you win the Big Metal the. 00:59:59 Speaker 3: Dish lo Bunny and queer celebration something so so. 01:00:04 Speaker 5: Well, we've got to read this. This rumble rant is in here, but I think there's it's called the super Bowl. That's right, the Supers like the super Bowl, super Bowl and uh I heard they're going to be having a halftime show with this queer named Bad Bunny and well, Blake, do you want to read it and enjoy? 01:00:21 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we'll read this though. It's from sand Sandra gab Hart. Uh did you guys see this exclusive bunny Bad Bunny? 01:00:29 Speaker 1: He's a beer icon. 01:00:30 Speaker 6: NFL addressing down how the boundary pushing Bad Bunny plans to super Bowl halftime show outfit to honor queer icons. 01:00:40 Speaker 3: By Radar Online. 01:00:41 Speaker 4: I assume that's just who yeh, Well, listen, the NFL is gonna play stupid games and win stupid prizes. 01:00:50 Speaker 5: It's not a super I've seen you remember the super Bowl that uh that there's someone someone else is doing another event right around the same time as that drag. 01:01:00 Speaker 4: It is true, but this is exactly where we have stories to tell from this whole thing. We'll probably that's right, we are. 01:01:07 Speaker 1: I forgot about that. 01:01:08 Speaker 3: We are. We have stories to tell about this whole thing. The NFL is a is A is a beast man, It's it's great. 01:01:17 Speaker 6: I told you we're gonna make a game. 01:01:21 Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying nobody. Nobody wants to go up against the NFL. 01:01:24 Speaker 6: The game that is large. 01:01:25 Speaker 3: This is this, That's what Jack is getting at. Is I told you true than you realize? 01:01:30 Speaker 1: I told you, man, I was like, they're not gonna like this. 01:01:32 Speaker 3: They're not going to like the name. 01:01:34 Speaker 6: Oh man, Wow, that is gonna be a fun story. No, wonder we haven't heard as much. 01:01:38 Speaker 1: Wait are you? 01:01:39 Speaker 4: Wait? 01:01:39 Speaker 5: Andrew? Are you? 01:01:40 Speaker 1: Are you telling me that there's pressure on people to not get involved with the Turning Point halftime show, to not perform, to not be to not host, to not be the venue. Are you saying that? 01:01:51 Speaker 5: Is that possible? 01:01:53 Speaker 2: My? 01:01:54 Speaker 5: Uh? 01:01:58 Speaker 6: Could it be an organization that has this is the zoom. 01:02:03 Speaker 3: I'm tried. We did these, We did the thumbnail looks the other day. That's what I'm trying to do. 01:02:09 Speaker 6: Is there an organization that has a large number of monopoly money bag tokens and a lot of influence. 01:02:16 Speaker 3: This that I don't know Jack maybe since maybe we'll talk about it later. 01:02:23 Speaker 5: Since we are being vague, I do want to say, at least for the benefit of the audience that yes, there is gonna be a All American halftime show and it's getting amazing and you guys are gonna love it. 01:02:34 Speaker 3: That's it, and it's true. 01:02:35 Speaker 1: No announcements, but you got but I can tell you you guys are gonna love it. 01:02:38 Speaker 4: It's gonna be great, and the team's done a great job with it, and more announcements coming and they've they've done a great job with it despite some of the you know things that Jack was alluding to. 01:02:49 Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun. 01:02:52 Speaker 7: It's gonna be really gonna be fun, and it's gonna be fun to watch the reaction well, and again there's gonna be just a lot of hatred and vitrio all that's thrown at it. And I'm really excited for that. 01:03:02 Speaker 10: But like you people are gonna be very upset you see this stuff from balderiny like using it as an he just wants to put his thumb in the eye of the country of traditional anything of America. 01:03:16 Speaker 3: Whatever, Jack, take us home, buddy. 01:03:18 Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, don't be bad bunny, don't be an anti American. Instead, go out there and commit more thought crime. 01:03:34 Speaker 8: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com