THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 110 — Live at AmFest

00:00:03 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. 00:00:05 Speaker 2: I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start at turning point you would say college chapter. 00:00:33 Speaker 1: Go start attning point youould say high school chapter. 00:00:35 Speaker 2: Go find out how your church can get involved. 00:00:37 Speaker 1: Sign up and become an activist. 00:00:39 Speaker 2: I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. 00:00:45 Speaker 1: Here I am Lord, Use me. 00:00:48 Speaker 2: Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company. I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. 00:01:10 Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to THARWT Crime Live. Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness, look at this. We got the whole Motley crew. Thank you for being here, folks, seriously, thank you for being here. 00:01:26 Speaker 1: We've got Blake and Andrew on their way here. 00:01:29 Speaker 3: So so we got we got Jack Pasobik here on thought Crime, Ladies and gentlemen. 00:01:34 Speaker 4: I know it's I know it's Friday. 00:01:36 Speaker 3: We usually do thal crime Thursday, so I hope you won't mind if we're doing dark crime on Friday? 00:01:40 Speaker 4: Is that alright with all of you? 00:01:43 Speaker 1: Hell? Yeah, all right? 00:01:43 Speaker 3: We got Cliff Maloney, you know Cliff from the Pachase. 00:01:46 Speaker 4: What's up Cliff? 00:01:47 Speaker 1: Hello? Hello? 00:01:48 Speaker 3: Then we got a crazy of course, the great Tyler Boyer. 00:01:51 Speaker 1: What's up, guys? How are we doing? 00:01:54 Speaker 3: And every everyone's favorite Mikey McCoy my gay. Now there was there were rules. There's the rules about thought crime. Now people, people don't realize this, but there are rules. When we created this show, we said, there's there's one rule above all rules. Anything goes on thought crime, all right, no censorship, no question that is denied. There is no topic that's not allowed to be discussed. That is how thought crime works. But there's also another rule. No jackets on thought crime. So I said when we were backstage, just said, mikey Cliff, take them off, and. 00:02:32 Speaker 4: I threw mine off too. No suit jackets. 00:02:34 Speaker 3: So if Andrew Colvett comes out here wearing a jacket, or if Blake Nef comes out here with what is that his five dollars Macy Special? 00:02:43 Speaker 4: Uh wait, do you not have a mic? 00:02:44 Speaker 5: No? 00:02:45 Speaker 4: Oh his mic is broken. 00:02:46 Speaker 3: That's okay, he doesn't have anything to say anyway that. 00:02:51 Speaker 4: Uh no, we'll figure that out. 00:02:52 Speaker 3: And that that they got to take him off, by the way, shout out, because we got two beautiful ladies here in the front wearing thought i'm T shirts that they made themselves. 00:03:05 Speaker 4: Which is so amazing. 00:03:06 Speaker 3: But but Tyler, I'm pretty sure that's copyright infringement, right, So now that's the thought crime. No, that's the thought crime. Look, look, look we've we have good lawyers, so I don't know it did say anything goes though, we did say that. Look when we started this show, and Tyler, maybe you could speak to this a little bit, because we started this show with Charlie because we needed to find a way to add to kind of talk about those subjects and talk about those topics that didn't really fit into a daily news cycle. They didn't really fit into just whatever was going on on Twitter or something like that. So so we said, let's do a show where it's just a couple of the guys sitting around talking about the issues, and we're gonna break all the rules. 00:03:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's where it started. 00:03:54 Speaker 6: Was thought crime was developed as every day it's like the hard is that Charlie was delivering and it was exhausting to talk about it every single day, and we just wanted a vacation. 00:04:08 Speaker 1: We wanted a vacation from all that, just to talk about all the cultural things going on. So that's what we're gonna do here today. Who's open for some topics? 00:04:17 Speaker 4: Oh we are? 00:04:18 Speaker 3: We just throwing to it. We're throwing to it all right, folks. We got we got a lot of people here today. So I say, we're just going for it now. As Charlie would always say, disagreeeres to the front, because that is the standard that Charlie has always said. 00:04:32 Speaker 4: So if you disagree with. 00:04:33 Speaker 3: Something we ever said, and you know in fact, and if anything that Charlie ever said, we'll come up here. We'll speak for him if we can. You can come up to the front. So guys, how about it? 00:04:44 Speaker 1: All right? How's it going, gentlemen? My name's Dino. 00:04:47 Speaker 4: Talk right, talk right into it, talk right in. 00:04:48 Speaker 1: Her name's Brady. 00:04:49 Speaker 7: His name, Yeah, And we have a controversial question for you. We're actually stuck at an impasse ourselves, and we need your help with this one. 00:04:56 Speaker 6: Brady, what's the best Star Wars movie? 00:05:00 Speaker 8: My favorite Star Wars movie is a New Hope, the original. We're having a big debate, so we're curious. Way guys' thoughts are. He's absolutely incorrect. It's Empire Strikes Back. By the way, Oh okay, should. 00:05:10 Speaker 4: I just say that? Seems like it's a setup for me? 00:05:12 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, let's go. 00:05:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry, Star Wars is faking gay. 00:05:19 Speaker 4: Sorry, I says star Crime. I'm so. I can't do it. 00:05:22 Speaker 3: Not only do I think it's fakeing gay, but it's Star Wars is banned in my house. 00:05:26 Speaker 4: I don't let the kids watch it. And here's why. Here's why because. 00:05:30 Speaker 3: When I see those Disney adults that are walking around at Disneyland and Disney World, I'm telling you, those guys give me creeper vibes like blippy. I don't want them around my kids. I don't want my kids around that. So we're we're anti Star Wars in the Posto house. 00:05:43 Speaker 4: Let's go. 00:05:43 Speaker 6: Yeah, but what's what's gear? Lord of the Rings or Star Wars? 00:05:47 Speaker 3: I mean, so Tyler has this Wait, you said it is or it isn't Lord of the Rings it is. 00:05:53 Speaker 1: We talked about this. 00:05:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so Tyler says Lord of the Rings is gay? What do you think? 00:05:58 Speaker 1: Is Tyler right about that? Absolutely? 00:06:01 Speaker 4: Mikey. Here's some thoughts. 00:06:03 Speaker 6: I think the better questions what's the better trilogy? And for all us young people, it's the prequels. But uh, Rogue one is the greatest Star Wars movie and it's not faking gay. I think you thinking Star Wars is faking gay is faking gay? No, back to the subject matter, Return of the Jedi is the best Star Wars film. 00:06:30 Speaker 4: And bold, bold look Return of the. 00:06:34 Speaker 3: Jedi, I will know, I can, I can steal man this and I do want to move topics. 00:06:37 Speaker 4: I don't want to do all Star Wars. 00:06:38 Speaker 3: But Return Return of the Jedi is a great movie because it shows the redemption arc, and it shows a biblical redemption arc whereby d when Darth Vader goes and atones for what he's done and seeks redemption through his son. His son leads him on the path from evil to goodness. That's the original story of Star Wars. 00:07:05 Speaker 4: But then George. 00:07:05 Speaker 3: Lucas got involved, and then Disney got involved, and. 00:07:09 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, they messed Kennedy got involved. 00:07:11 Speaker 3: They messed it all up, and they made it fake and gay, just like Netflix. 00:07:16 Speaker 1: So there's there's a lot of people I could do this. 00:07:19 Speaker 6: I'll say now, I'm gonna say this too. All the New movies they jacked this entire thing up. They totally screwed up snoke and everything else. The worst that is the worst part of it. So it's a big da film. 00:07:32 Speaker 4: Now, it's all di it's all no. 00:07:34 Speaker 1: You know what. 00:07:35 Speaker 3: I got in trouble for saying this on Twitter in twenty fifteen. Fine, I'm just gonna say it's talk crime, right, you want to talk about how it's de I so go look at the Disney Star Wars movies. All right, All the bad guys are straight white men. Every single bad guy in the Disney Star Wars movies is a straight white man. I said this on twenty fifteen. I got ripped on and all of the what do you call them the it's not the it's like the Resistance Alliance or whatever. 00:08:03 Speaker 4: All of them. 00:08:04 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it's like the diversity quota at the United Nations or something. 00:08:09 Speaker 4: Are the good guys? 00:08:10 Speaker 3: And I'm sorry, but it's very clear what you're doing, because you're trying to paint a target on the back of straight white men in this country. 00:08:18 Speaker 4: And we're sick of it, and Charlie was sick of it, and we're. 00:08:21 Speaker 1: Done with it. Thank you all. Thank you, Dino Brady. 00:08:26 Speaker 4: That was a great question. 00:08:27 Speaker 1: But Snooke did kind of look like Joe Biden a little bit, a little bit a little bit, so I mean, you gotta give him that. 00:08:35 Speaker 4: Now, you got to top the Star Wars question. 00:08:37 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for being here today. My name is Blakely. I'm thirteen years old. Charlie's death inspired my faith and my interest on growing academically on my own. Can you share with me how much he read and how he retained the information he learned. 00:08:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, he read all the time. But actually, something else Charlie did is, especially. 00:08:55 Speaker 6: On long flights, he would have his laptop open and he would be arguing with chat ChiPT for like five hours, and and he was like, I would say, what are you doing, Charlie. He's like, I'm practicing for the campus tours. And he would he would tell chapter to GPT, you know, pretend to be a purple hair lib at Berkeley. Let's argue, no, but he read a ton and he actually. 00:09:18 Speaker 3: There's we should see if we should get those chat logs or something. 00:09:21 Speaker 1: We should work on them. 00:09:22 Speaker 4: We should try to figure out how to get them. 00:09:23 Speaker 1: That'd be good at finding logs. 00:09:25 Speaker 3: Sam Altman, Sam Altman, if you're there, what are you at your call logs? 00:09:28 Speaker 5: Right? 00:09:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, we got Mike. Don't worry, folks, We checked out Mikey's call logs. 00:09:33 Speaker 4: He's clean. 00:09:33 Speaker 3: No calls to Egypt, no calls to Macade, no calls to France. He's clean, folks, He's clean. He read a lot though. 00:09:42 Speaker 6: Reading was super important, and so we have a reading list online too of what Charlie liked. 00:09:47 Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the how did he retain that, like what he read or what he learned? 00:09:54 Speaker 3: No? 00:09:54 Speaker 1: How oh, okay, a lot of people. 00:09:58 Speaker 6: Charlie didn't necessarily have a photographic memory too, by the way, So. 00:10:02 Speaker 1: He would just read a lot and he took notes all the time. 00:10:05 Speaker 6: Everywhere he went he had a notebook with him, and like, if he was on this stage right now, he would be writing down stuff that he liked. He would start it, circle it. That was the best way for him to retain information. 00:10:16 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:10:16 Speaker 6: I think all throughout Charlie's life and everything that I ever watched, he. 00:10:20 Speaker 1: Wrote down and less and less and less. 00:10:23 Speaker 6: And he would cross through things every time, big list person. 00:10:26 Speaker 9: So I think one of the best speeches at the memorial, which goes to reading, was a doctor Larry Arne, and he talked about when Charlie went to him and he quizzed him and at one point Charlie kind of you know pros and he turned to him and said, what do I do? And I just think that doctor Arrange's response was pretty prophetic, where he was like, you gotta read, and he gave him, you know, a bunch of things to start with the classics and then go into this. But I do I think reading is such a it's so easy to make the excuses. 00:10:57 Speaker 1: It's like, no, we got a double down. You can't fit make it till you make it. That's what the left does. 00:11:02 Speaker 9: We have to have a true belief in what we're reading, and you have to dive deep to do that. 00:11:05 Speaker 1: So that was a great question. 00:11:07 Speaker 5: Thank you. 00:11:08 Speaker 1: Keep it up. Read a lot. 00:11:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, give it up for Cliff Maloney. Cliff, give everyone your coordinates. 00:11:15 Speaker 3: By the way, on ex At Maloney, love y'all, Doors Win Wars, Doors Win Wars. The Cliffs got a book coming out soon that's going to be absolutely fantastic. You gotta check it out. Actually, ladies and gentlemen, do you know man by the name of Blake nef. 00:11:36 Speaker 4: Leave it open? 00:11:37 Speaker 1: Harrol I wanted to leave one. Yeah, cold on. 00:11:40 Speaker 10: I was told you were saying mean things about my jacket. I heard you when I walked in. I didn't say anything mean about the jacket. Did you guys hear saying me say anything mean about the jacket? 00:11:49 Speaker 11: No? 00:11:50 Speaker 4: See, no, no I heard it. 00:11:51 Speaker 1: I heard it. 00:11:52 Speaker 4: No. 00:11:52 Speaker 1: No, it's fake news trying to deny people to jacket. 00:11:55 Speaker 4: It was Mikey. 00:11:56 Speaker 3: It was Mikey. So so I've got a mic problem. 00:12:00 Speaker 4: Now, Oh, everybody's got a Mikey problem. Mikey. 00:12:03 Speaker 10: No, No, hold on, we're we're we're embracing confrontation at this amfest. Mikey apologize to the jacket. 00:12:10 Speaker 6: No, I literally take you shopping because you have a bad closet, Blake. I'm not apologizing to you. 00:12:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mikey's he gave you all. 00:12:20 Speaker 10: The closets too. Mister Lord of the Rings is gay guy. Everyone's folks. I did want to leave. 00:12:26 Speaker 3: We had it, We had the seat here, but I wanted to make sure that we left this seat right here for the co host who isn't on isn't with us today. Charlie Kirk is on assignment right now, so he's not being able to join us. 00:12:38 Speaker 4: He's on assignment with God. Let's get to our next question. 00:12:46 Speaker 12: Hi, guys, my name's Liam. 00:12:47 Speaker 1: I'm all the way here from Florida. 00:12:50 Speaker 12: So I kind of linked up with Jack's brother before this and he kind of encouraged me to ask you guys, So thank you to him for that. I come from military family. My grandfather was in the Vietnam Wars a marine. I was an Operation Desert Storm as a marine. So sometimes I struggle with the thought of imperialism, and I think that sometimes we should be the world police because a lot of people do really bad things. But then also sometimes I think that we should let others settle their disputes on their own and kind of save our tax money for domestic problems. I just want to know what your guys thoughts on are on that and what your advice is for me. 00:13:26 Speaker 1: I have an immediate imperial thought. 00:13:28 Speaker 6: The first imperial thought that I have is that Arizona should own a lot more of. 00:13:32 Speaker 1: Mexico and specifically Rocky Point. 00:13:36 Speaker 3: So we've we've actually talked about this on the show before. So people don't realize that America won the Mexican American War the United States one, and originally the border between the US and Mexico was much much different. Ladies and gentlemen, did you know that Charlie Kirk, like the rest of us, agreed. I think Arizona should have a beach front. You know what I'm saying. You think Arizona deserves to. 00:13:59 Speaker 1: Be each who hears from Arizona. 00:14:04 Speaker 6: Why don't we have a beach No, they just let the line that goes right across the Rocky Point. That place would be so much nicer. I mean, it's totally ridiculous. 00:14:16 Speaker 4: Mike. 00:14:17 Speaker 6: Yeah, Mexico can have Tucson and we get Rocky Point. Yeah, we trade. 00:14:22 Speaker 1: What do we think we do? We trade South Tucson. 00:14:28 Speaker 4: And we get no. I want to Let's let's keep going. 00:14:31 Speaker 6: I think we should take over all Baja We could. We could conquer Baja California a day. Well, let me hear one day, let me take everyone here bearing arms, could go take over Baja California. 00:14:42 Speaker 1: Right now, I. 00:14:43 Speaker 6: Feel like literally we could take all of like thrown in jail. 00:14:47 Speaker 3: Pretty much like all the guys at amfest, I think we already taking all of Baja California. 00:14:52 Speaker 4: What do you think, guys? Should we do it? 00:14:54 Speaker 6: So, in all seriousness, it's a very serious question. So, yes, there's some imperialism that's great, getting Mexico, Southern Caloria, uh, Baja California. 00:15:05 Speaker 3: You're talking about something that's directly in America's interest. 00:15:08 Speaker 6: Yeah, when it when it when it benefits America, we need to be imperialistic. When it doesn't benefit America, we need to get the heck out right, So like that's kind. 00:15:17 Speaker 3: Of the my answer, My answered on all of that is America first. 00:15:23 Speaker 6: I am interested to see though, by raise of hand, who in the room is America first in America only? And who in the room is America first but not America only? 00:15:34 Speaker 4: All Right? 00:15:34 Speaker 6: America first and America only. Raise your hand, America first and not just America only. 00:15:44 Speaker 1: All right, Wow, it's quite the sweet best split. It was like fifty to fifty split. No, I like that. And look, you get in a giant pit and kill each other. 00:15:52 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that's right. No, the pit is out back. 00:15:55 Speaker 3: So look, when it comes down to it, I think one of the reasons that Trump won in the first place is this idea that America had become, had suffered what many historic empires, as Blake knows, imperial overreach and getting involved in every single dispute around the country or excuse me, around the world is not what our founding fathers instituted America as a limited republic to be able to do. It was made for the benefit of the American people, for our prosperity, for our for their their posterity as well. And so no, that doesn't mean that we have to get involved in every dispute, whether it's Asia, whether it's South America, or yes, even the Middle East. 00:16:34 Speaker 4: It's some things just aren't our job. 00:16:38 Speaker 13: Yeah, thank you. 00:16:39 Speaker 12: I wanted to add just one more expansion on that, and then I kind of had your brother asked me a question in return, so what do we like where do we draw the line? Right like in today, I know President Trump's doing a great job trying to hold other countries accountable when we're supplying them with guns and stuff for war and military supplies. Where do you draw the line for countries that sort of take advantage of us? Like, for instance, you could say Ukraine, where we give them our guns and then write in return they take them and sell them. 00:17:11 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:17:11 Speaker 5: No. 00:17:11 Speaker 3: When I was in Ukraine in twenty twenty two, within a couple hours of traveling to Leviv right after the war started, I even met people who were selling American weapons right there in Kiev. And I was at this place and with some of the resistance guys and they're saying, hey, if you give us some money, we can give you some We can give you some ars and we'll send it. And turns out that he had actually like sold to promise someone that he could get them ar's and he was trying to get me to pay for it because he had already spent the money. Totally corrupt, just insane levels of corruption that were going on. Yeah I know, right, yeah, like no, seriously, And Charlie got really mad because I went to Ukraine and didn't tell him I was going and he was like, what do you mean you were in Ukraine all week? Because like, don't worry about it, dude, I'm fine. And look where do we draw the line. We draw the line at saying it is stupid for the United States of America to back a losing war and a losing proposition, and it gets to the point where we need to put peace first and we need to solve our disputes with talk, with diplomacy, and yes maybe and definitely leverage, but not with warfare. 00:18:14 Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you. 00:18:15 Speaker 6: Guys got buss Well that brings up this idea and this probably would be a fight with this guy. Do do we like the UN or do we hate the UIN? Because I want to get out of the UN? 00:18:32 Speaker 1: It makes no sense. 00:18:33 Speaker 6: We can totally take an advantage of by the UN and the decisions that are made by the UN. 00:18:40 Speaker 3: I say take it over, So I'm gonna take over the building by forst sentence Seal Team six. 00:18:46 Speaker 4: Let's get the next question. 00:18:47 Speaker 6: Baja California first or the UN Baha storm the cap. 00:18:52 Speaker 1: My name is Daniel. 00:18:54 Speaker 14: I'm from Jacksonville, Florida and My question is related to immigration. There's been a lot of talk about such as the Heartseller Act from nineteen sixty five and just a lot of discussion over it. Trump had even said he believes that we should bring more Scandinavians in as someone who does actually have family from Sweden, my uncle who's an American but has lived in Sweden for twenty years and as a family is actually visiting. 00:19:18 Speaker 1: And the thing that gets. 00:19:20 Speaker 14: Me is that Europe today is let's just say, not culturally or politically really similar to America, and Europeans, like culturally are very different. Just as an example, like as poll had showed that like ninety percent of Scandinavians opposed Donald Trump and think Kamala Harris would have been a better president. How do we go about immigration reform to ensure that we bring in immigrants that will actually benefit the country and will keep the country America first and culturally conservative long term, even in places that might be aesthetically nice such as Sweden in Denmark and these other places, but culturally are like to the left of Vermont. 00:20:04 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:20:05 Speaker 3: No, that's a great question, because there's a lot of foreign countries that are hostile to America. We don't have We don't have a serious vetting system in our country. And so I think the real answer is, what's the best way to do. Shut down immigration until we can figure out what the hell is going on at our borders. We have so many migrants in this country. We have tens of millions that are here that came in under Biden that were not. 00:20:30 Speaker 4: Vetted at all. 00:20:31 Speaker 3: Some of them, by the way, who came out of Kabul that walk up to our soldiers and shoot them in the head right outside of the White House. You got this guy at Brown University who was on a green card and apparently just went on a killing spree to settle an old grudge. It seems like or I mean, we don't really know exactly what happened there, but it's it's it's it's clearly something that's causing a major problem in our country. And we have way too many people that should not be here period. And what eighteen built the Somalis in Minnesota. You guys heard this. The Somalis in Minnesota. They up, they came up with the number. I believe the US Attorney just put it out yesterday. Eighteen billion dollars scammed from this that's just on the state level in Minnesota. Eighteen billion dollars. Ladies and gentlemen, they gotta go, They just gotta go. You gotta send them back. Remigration, reverse migration. 00:21:23 Speaker 4: This is the way. 00:21:24 Speaker 3: And once we get a handle, once we get a handle on the people are here and the people who shouldn't be here, then we can talk about whether or not we want to reopen that aperture. 00:21:32 Speaker 4: I don't know, you guys want to weigh in. 00:21:37 Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I mean I'm literally doing the math on my phone here because that's what I do, because I'm a crazy person. 00:21:44 Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Blake Neff uses a calculator just so you know. 00:21:47 Speaker 4: Yeah what, So don't feel better? 00:21:49 Speaker 10: So eighteen billion divided by about eighty thousand, right, how many of there are? That's two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars per person. 00:21:55 Speaker 3: Two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars per person of the Somalians in Minnesota. And look, folks, when you here's what happens when you come from a culture that doesn't see anything wrong with scamming, with stealing, with lying, they will go to the government and claim that all of their children have autism and then take every single dollar that's meant for actual special needs kids, and they will pocket it and will not feel bad about it at all. They will congratulate each other on how smart they were to builk the US system and use our good nature against us, and every single one of them who did that should be arrested and deported immediately. 00:22:34 Speaker 10: Or they'll fake marry their brother so they can get a nicer apartment. 00:22:39 Speaker 3: Some of them even marry their own brothers to sneak into the country. I don't know if anyone's ever heard of any name some of them would. 00:22:46 Speaker 10: Even do that and then run for Congress, run for Congress, speeches in a non English language about dedicating their congressional career to the well being of a country that is not America. 00:22:58 Speaker 3: Gosh, I just I can't ypathetically hypothetically hypothetically, folks. The system is completely out of control, and we we I don't want to talk. The only immigration reform that we need to have is reforming the direction of the immigration from in to out. 00:23:17 Speaker 6: Thank you so much, we need so you're saying we need a total moratorium on people marrying their brothers, and they're running from Congress. 00:23:24 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, brother marriage. 00:23:26 Speaker 15: Jack is calling for a moratorium on all brother marriage, brother marriage, sister marriage, cousin marriage, second cousin marriage, third cousin marriage, clan marriage, trying marriage. 00:23:37 Speaker 4: I'm a child marriage. I'm against it all, folks. 00:23:39 Speaker 6: The point is you only get this stuff when you let crazy people into this crime country. 00:23:44 Speaker 1: And that woman is a crazy person. They're not They're not like that, right. 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And it's found it's like I found like a home. Like I can wear my hat, I can wear my shirt. You know, people say nice shirt, nice hat, praise God, and it's wonderful. But I also have friends that are not Christians. And although I don't agree with everything, I do, they're still loving parts of my life. Where can those friends fit into this organization and where do they find their part here? And I also have a question about like the separation of church and state, Like I understand that this is like a private entity, but it's also very political. And although I agree with it and it's my home, you know, where do you draw the line? And especially for the people that aren't of the Christian faith. 00:26:28 Speaker 4: Tyler, you want to take the first part. 00:26:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say this at turning point. 00:26:31 Speaker 6: What's a wonderful thing is that you can be pro a lot of things and not have to like rip each other's heads off about disagreements all the time. 00:26:42 Speaker 1: The vast majority of people. 00:26:43 Speaker 6: I think this has been demonstrated and discussed a lot, and Charlie said this all the time. Is that you know, America was founded as a Christian nation, that we have Christian principles that enabled this country to operate in a way that is accepting and loving of other people who don't necessarily always agree with our faith or what we are, what we stand for. But the moment you start to walk away from that is the moment that things start to fall apart and people start marrying their brothers to get citizenship, and then you have them run forgot you see what I'm saying. So we just went we just covered that pretty quickly. So you have a situation in America where you can be pro your Christian beliefs and faith and not have to run away from that. And that's the America that was that was founded, that that was understood, that we that the founders really had intended, and and not have to be at the throats of other people who disagree, but lead by example and build a community that's going to be welcoming for everyone. And I think that's what we've got here is a really welcoming community where I think everybody, no matter what your faith, religious background, you come in and hopefully you're having a great time here in America fest And I think that that's what that's what that's the environment you can create that really, uh, you know, kind of allow for the original intent that the founders had to continue. The opposite of that, I would say is that you can look at some examples that are really aren't working. In Europe's a really good example of this, where there's so much bending the need to other people's cultures and other people's ideas that what's happened is that you don't have any identity any longer, and violence ensues, and anger and animosity ensue, and that's really a lot of what we're seeing across Europe. 00:28:30 Speaker 3: And you look at it to you mentioned the separation to church and state. But here's something I found that's so interesting about this. Now, obviously that's not in our constitution, that's not found in our founding documents. The First Amendment, the Protection of Religion in enshrined in the First Amendment was for the protection of the exercise of religion, so that the government couldn't stop you from exercising your religion, and that we would not have a Church of America the way that the Church of England had the Church of England, which now the Anglican Church or the Pistopolian Church in America. However, I would pause it that after the nineteen sixties and the counter cultural or the cultural revolution took place in America, the sexual Revolution, the atheist revolution, progressivism took hold. Isn't it interesting that there's only one religion that we're. 00:29:14 Speaker 1: Told is not allowed in the public square. 00:29:16 Speaker 3: We're told that the only religion that isn't allowed is the religion of Jesus Christ, the Ten Commandments, displays of the Cross, Nativity scenes in public, every other religion. If it was Islam, they would say, oh no, no, no, that's intolerance. But if it's Christianity, they say, get rid of it, get it out of the public square. And I'm gonna tell you something, if you're gonna be a Christian in today's America, you must be a public Christian. We have to return Christianity to the public square. Charlie Cook served for that, and he was exactly right. 00:29:48 Speaker 6: Hey Jack, Jack, that's the Happy Holidays manifesto, Right boo. You don't have to mitigate your own faith for someone else to feel like their faith is is elevated. 00:30:00 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? 00:30:02 Speaker 6: Everybody here can practice their faith to the maximum capacity, and they should. 00:30:06 Speaker 1: Everyone should do that. 00:30:08 Speaker 6: And you know, that's what America is all about, is everyone can go zero to sixty on their own faith. 00:30:13 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that you have to mitigate yours. And that's what the left one is. The left ones you to shut up. Yeah, And I'll add. 00:30:20 Speaker 6: To the point on separation of church and state. If the Gospel in Christianity is objective truth and it's the highest hierarchy of truth. You cannot separate truth from the state or anarchy, and lies and darkness will then take. 00:30:35 Speaker 1: Over where truth is the absence of it. 00:30:38 Speaker 6: And so in a world of lies, in darkness, the truth is often times not something that's popular. And so as Christians, we have a mandate and an obligation to bring that truth in that light into the darkest places in our nation, in our world, and it's oftentimes going to be really unpopular, really uncomfortable. And I mean in Charlie's case, he was literally bringing the truth and the gospel to the darkest places, which is oftentimes college campuses, UC Davis, Berkeley, and so we have an obligation we have to fulfill it. 00:31:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, gut, thank you. 00:31:18 Speaker 4: Government is the darkness, Mary, Chris. 00:31:20 Speaker 6: College campuses are the reflection of the darkest places in America. 00:31:25 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm eli. I have two questions. 00:31:28 Speaker 18: One is, yesterday somebody brought up the attack on the USS liberty and what are your opinions on that? 00:31:34 Speaker 1: And then my. 00:31:35 Speaker 18: Next question is how are Erica and our kids doing with Charlie. 00:31:40 Speaker 5: Yeah? 00:31:40 Speaker 4: Sure, So, as as a Navy veteran. 00:31:42 Speaker 3: You know, I'll talk about the USS Liberty and obviously it's you know, it's something that we as Navy veterans, as anyone who serves in the Navy, you learn about, you study, and you realize that we live in a serious world, and it's something that a lot of people in the Navy feel that we never really got full accountability for. Still have a lot of questions about the Navy investigation that was done and the official statements that came out. A lot of people said, you know, just doesn't feel like it's good enough when you have a naval a ship with flying the US flag that's being attacked by a country that you are. 00:32:15 Speaker 4: Nominally supposed to believe is an ally. 00:32:17 Speaker 3: But one interesting piece on this that I've also heard from Roger Stone goes like this, So if you look at it the blake, when was the Gulf of Tonkin around I think it was sixty three sixty four, Yeah, sixty three sixty four was Gulf of Tonkin. Then you have USS Liberty, which comes in sixty seven. And so the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a situation where the president at the time LBJ used this sort of like fake poax to get the United States involved in the Ward Vietnam by claiming a ship had been attacked. Roger Stone says that he's got evidence that it was LBJ was trying to do the exact same thing with the USS Liberty to try to get the US involved in that war as well, to turn around and claim that it wasn't Israel that attacked, but that it was Egypt that attacked. So I think that's an interesting case. That's an interesting case study, and it's something that I'd certainly like to look in a lot more myself. 00:33:10 Speaker 4: You mentioned Erica and the kids. 00:33:13 Speaker 3: You know, I talked to Erica pretty regularly, and she's she's so strong, She's so incredibly strong, and I don't think I don't think this amfest would have happened without Erica. I don't think it would happen without her strength and her being there as that central cornerstone, new cornerstone for the organization, the one that Charlie chose himself. 00:33:33 Speaker 4: I don't know, Mike, if you want to speak on that. 00:33:36 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I was talking with Justin from our team at Turning Point, USA the other day and we were both like, we're so exhausted. It's it's been crazy. And then we were like, how is Erica still doing this? And it's it's honestly amazing what she's able to pull off, Guys, this event, this coalition, the glue that Charlie was, Erica has fulfilled that, the absence that Charlie left behind, all while doing a million things, being attacked on social media, whatever it is. She is like literally anti fragile, like she is the You attack her and she gets stronger, and it's it's beautiful. She's she's a representation of what young women and women in general should just strive to be. And to the USS liberty thing. I'll just say this as a young person, Okay. 00:34:28 Speaker 1: I I wish. 00:34:31 Speaker 6: More people in the conservative movement wouldn't just wouldn't lie about what happened that day. I think it's it was a US ship. They were flying a US flag. There is markings all over Israel knew it was the US and they still attacked. And you can say that and still be pro Israel. But you can say a lot of time has passed, reparations were paid. But why do we have to lie about it as a movement. Just tell the truth. That's it's simple. 00:35:01 Speaker 4: So, like I said, guys, any question was that good? Thank you very much. Merry Christmas. Who's next? 00:35:07 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas kid? 00:35:09 Speaker 13: Hello, thrilled to be here. My name's j I'm Gray hack Cal I'm from Spokane, Washington. I'm Catholic. 00:35:16 Speaker 1: I'm all right. That's the good side of Washington. Wait, that's the that's the red side of Washington. Well that's a little purple. But yeah, we're well spoke. Greater Idaho. That's what we want to make, right, I'm right next to Idaho. 00:35:30 Speaker 4: I say, new state, break it all. 00:35:32 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. They want the oh new state. 00:35:34 Speaker 4: No new state. 00:35:34 Speaker 3: See look all right, all right, I'm gonna step on this. This is my thought crime tangent. 00:35:40 Speaker 4: All right. 00:35:40 Speaker 3: So people say, should should the conservative parts of blue states break off? Like California's got conservative parts, Oregon, Washington? Uh, yeah, like western Maryland? Should they break off and join red states? I say no, don't join red states. Form your own states, because then you get for every single state you to governor and two red senators or added to the United States. 00:36:04 Speaker 1: Senate two more too more. 00:36:06 Speaker 6: Yeah, So we should be so we need a new state between eastern Oregon eastern Washington can create a former new state. 00:36:16 Speaker 4: State of Jefferson right there. 00:36:18 Speaker 6: Yeah, you'd be down for that, right anybody, New York, Yeah, Northern California, Northern California, we can turn that thing into Jefferson. 00:36:28 Speaker 1: It'll be so cool. 00:36:28 Speaker 10: I don't think you guys are going to like what happens if Trump learns about the fact that the annexation treaty with Texas includes the right for it to divide itself into five additional states without any approval from the Texas isn't allowed to. 00:36:42 Speaker 1: Anyway. 00:36:43 Speaker 13: My question for you today, First of all, I just wanted to make a comment. Charlie obviously picked all of you for a reason. You formed amazing friendships, business relationships, and you're all godly men with families, and. 00:36:59 Speaker 1: This is what needs to go forward. 00:37:01 Speaker 13: You have made being masculine really important and for our boys, that is that's what makes society what. 00:37:09 Speaker 11: It should be. 00:37:11 Speaker 13: My question, first of all, I am a Republican women's president of an organization of over one hundred part of sixty six thousand women nationally that are part of the National Federation. We are looking and this isn't just my club. We want to know who is going to be the voice of young women or the face of young women coming forward. 00:37:35 Speaker 1: And who do you. 00:37:35 Speaker 4: Think you're looking at him right here? It's Blake k Neff. 00:37:41 Speaker 1: He's got the hair for it. 00:37:42 Speaker 19: Really. 00:37:43 Speaker 4: Ah, he's been doing pushups all week. 00:37:46 Speaker 6: I mean, this is piggybacking on the commentary that we just made a lot of a lot of us recognize that Charlie Kirk came and he brought the young men into the fold. Right Erica Kirk is here to bring the young women over over the side. And this is this is important because we love we love our women at the National Federation for Republican Women. 00:38:08 Speaker 1: You do incredible work. 00:38:10 Speaker 6: But what we've noticed at turning point is when you start to change the dialogue with young people, it impacts upwards. So and this happens a lot like I see myself now I've got a teenager, and when he's doing stuff, I start going, oh, that's cool. Now I guess I have to change what I listen to you and how I talk and things like that. 00:38:30 Speaker 1: You start us with being cool. You start to you start to. 00:38:33 Speaker 6: Follow what younger people do kind of abnormally because it's trendy and it's cool, and that's what we see on TV, and that's what's interesting and in media. The conservative movement has struggled for many, many years prior to turning point coming around because there just wasn't as much of a youth focus. What I love about this is we've got people of all ages that are here, but like, this is a cool party where people are feeling like, like the conservative movements alive and well and and maybe a little bit cooler than it was ten years ago. And that's really important for young men. But that's also really really critical for young women that feel sometimes excluded in the conservative movement because things just don't feel cool. And when you look at Erica Kirk, she's a great example of everything that's cool being a mom, you know, standing up and being bold still on conservative principles, you know, being able to wear a dress, not having to walk around in a pants suit like the left does. That's no hat on pantsuits. If you're wearing one, you know, it don't start. Yeah, I start that Erica pantsuit. It was a glittery pantsuit. 00:39:37 Speaker 1: It was a lot. It was a very glittery pantsuit. 00:39:40 Speaker 6: But to Tyler's point, for the first time in America Fest history, there are more women at this event than men. 00:39:52 Speaker 1: And that's that's nothing that men. 00:39:54 Speaker 6: That's just saying the Erica Kirk effect is real and young women and women in general are listening to the because every conservative event has always been like there's like it's it's a really bad ratio for girls and they don't show up. Now there's actually more girls here than guys. That's a you know, there's no ladies, ladies, find your go, find your life partner, ladies. 00:40:16 Speaker 1: Blake is eligible. 00:40:20 Speaker 3: No, it's it's true though there's there's been there have been a lot of turning point couples and turning point marriages, and we're even getting to the era where we're seeing like turning point babies that have come about from those couples. 00:40:33 Speaker 1: Who's got a baby in the crowd? Lift it up? 00:40:35 Speaker 3: We have any babies, any kids, any parents brought their kids here? I see a couple, a couple of. 00:40:39 Speaker 4: Hands right back. There, there's one. There, there's there's oh there she is there she is. 00:40:43 Speaker 15: Hey Christmas, what's on the bottom. 00:40:47 Speaker 3: Look, we're raising the right folks, We're raising them right. Charlie would have loved this Charlie. And Charlie does love this because he's looking down, he's seeing it, he's seeing the baby boom, he's seeing it happening. 00:40:58 Speaker 4: That's what it's all about. 00:40:59 Speaker 3: So you asked about young men, and I'll close on this topic with this, is that I give a speech recently in New York City where Zora Mandami is about to become. 00:41:09 Speaker 4: The mayor in two weeks. 00:41:10 Speaker 3: I know, right, And I said, you know what struck me though, is that Zora Mandami and Charlie Kirk are almost the same age. Actually, he's thirty four and Charlie would have been thirty two right now. And you look at the lives they've led and they're completely different. One is a whiny, angry, parasitic, just nutjob who thinks that you should tear people down and tear systems down, take from others and give to yourself kind of guy. And that's the system that he's offering to young men. And he's a bad rapper, and he's a very bad rapper. And you look at what Charlie offered. You look at what Charlie offered. 00:41:53 Speaker 1: To young men. 00:41:56 Speaker 3: Young men, if you want to find in Erica, then you've got to be at Charlie. And to young women, if you want to find a Charlie, you gotta be in Erica, all right. And that's the examples that we should be using to push forward to say you don't have to be bitter and angry and grow through life. And by the way, young white men in this country do have a lot of reason to be upset because the entire system is against them and we are going to be fighting that tooth and nail. But I promise you there is a system that shows you a way forward that you can get married, you can have kids, you put God at the center, and you don't need the lives of Marxism that are pushed by the likes of Zora Mandami. 00:42:37 Speaker 1: Thank you, keep it up, Hey everybody. 00:42:44 Speaker 16: This is Andrew Colvet, executive producer of The Charlie Kirk Show. 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Go to burnabyrna dot com. That's burna dot com and see why tens of thousands of Americans are choosing Berna for peace of mind. 00:43:47 Speaker 1: Good afternoon. My name is Dave Guwaitio. 00:43:48 Speaker 11: I'm an active sworn police officer right here in Arizona. 00:43:52 Speaker 4: Give it up for our law enforcement. 00:43:55 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. We love our police. Thank you. I know you do, Tyler, I know you do. 00:44:02 Speaker 5: Uh. 00:44:02 Speaker 1: More importantly, I'm a Christian. 00:44:04 Speaker 11: I'm also an unabashed conservative, and I tell you a lot of a lot of swarm police officers won't talk politics. I will because the left has attempted to systematically destroy law enforcement in this country. So if you're a cop, you got to get off of the couch. You gotta get you gotta get plugged in. Jack, I want to thank you for continuing to shine light the Derek Chauvin debacle on what happened to him. From day one, you called it out, you said, this is going to be a sham trial, and we're starting to find out as the facts come out more and more you were correct. You've got leftist politicians collaborating with Minneapolis politicians to throw police. 00:44:47 Speaker 1: Under the bush. You know, you hear the narrative, the knee on the neck. 00:44:51 Speaker 11: We're finding out that their own witness has confirmed the knee wasn't even on the neck. 00:44:55 Speaker 1: He was on the shoulder. 00:44:56 Speaker 11: So Jack, my question to you is, you know, based on your analysis, what are the next steps? What can we do to continue to focus on that situation. 00:45:08 Speaker 3: I thank you for saying that, ladies and gentlemen, can we give it up for Derek Chauvin, who is a. 00:45:13 Speaker 4: Political prisoner in this country right now? 00:45:17 Speaker 3: Oh, we've come a long way We've come a long way from learning that just because the media tells us something about a shocking video does not mean that it's true. 00:45:26 Speaker 4: And that's what Charlie always stood on. 00:45:28 Speaker 3: He stood on business, he stood on truth, and he said, we must have discernment. We must have discernment and not accept what the media sends us because we know and we've learned now it's all lies now web the Minneapolis Police, she's exactly right. When they came out, they had the training officer right. She lied on the stand and said that it was not an approved tactic that she had trained. They pulled out the manual and they said the tactic was in there. But then what happened. The judge didn't even allow that manual to be shown to the jury in Derek Chauvin's trial. That is a sham. That is not justice. What was done there was a miscarriage of justice. I believe that Derek Chauvin was wrongfully convicted. And there's now and it's not just me, there's now over fifty current and former Minneapolis police officers that have come forward and stated that that was an approved hold by the Minneapolis Police Department. They all lied because they wanted to use Derek Chauvin as a scapegoat for the fact that the that the officials of Minnesota like Jacob Frye and Governor Tim Walls and Attorney General what's his name, Keith Ellison. Yeah, with his Antifa book, that Keith Ellison allowed the entire city of Minneapolis to burn down on their watch. And we are not going to drop this case. We're going to fight for justice for Derek Chauvin. 00:46:52 Speaker 1: Hey, they robbed the cheesecake factory. 00:46:55 Speaker 3: They bombed the cheesecake factory. Seriously, they burned down the third Precinct. So to answer to your question, a lot of people have said, does Derek Chauvin deserve a federal pardon? 00:47:05 Speaker 4: Now? Does he deserve one? 00:47:07 Speaker 3: Yes, However, I want to pause on that because I've spoken to some people that know the legal team there and they said they're not actually asking for a pardon right now. 00:47:17 Speaker 4: And here's why. 00:47:18 Speaker 3: Because he's in federal prison right now and they're worried that if they put him back in the state prison where he was before, that they're gonna kill him, that that's gonna be a death sentence. So she's saying that Minnesota will treat him worse than the federal prison. And that's exactly what I was hearing as well from Alpha News and some of the people that have been working on the story directly, and go shout out to Alpha News. By the way, the incredible Liz Colin. Just go follow her. She's amazing documentaries, books on this, all the breaking news. 00:47:52 Speaker 4: It's all her. That's I don't know anything. She's the one who just tells me. 00:47:55 Speaker 3: But so I think the current fight right now is that we have to point out that that trial was a miscarriage of justice that and essentially get that declared. Nolan Voyd, Derek Schouvin deserves a new trial. It deserves a new trial. 00:48:09 Speaker 11: Briefly, two more things. My wife is an attendance Carrie. She's a huge fan Jack and you have a shout out to my wife, Carrie h And also can I can I promote our local law enforcement Twitter account? 00:48:21 Speaker 15: Is that? 00:48:21 Speaker 1: Okay? 00:48:22 Speaker 3: Hey, back to blue. We love our cops. Mery Christmas, guys, Mek Christmas, carry thank you, great question. 00:48:27 Speaker 11: Well Hacklendop twelve, thank you guys, and everybody everybody that's here needs to hear this right now. 00:48:32 Speaker 6: If you have family members, just like David here. We need every police officer to step up and be a vocal conservative. 00:48:41 Speaker 1: They should. 00:48:43 Speaker 6: A lot of these guys serve in deep blue territory and so they feel like they can't talk. We as citizens have to support our police so vocally so they can get involved and say, you know, enough is enough. We can't have insane leftist politics enter all of these suburban cities. 00:49:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if there's a war on police, then what's gonna happen. Then you're gonna have police officers that don't want to go into those dangerous situations when nine to one one is called. So when I say I support Derek Chauvin, that's not just because of Derek Chauvin as a person. That's because that is supporting me and my family so that we're ever in trouble and we need to call a police officer that they know that they're walking into a situation where the society, where the laws, where the people have their back. 00:49:27 Speaker 6: Well and jack suburban cities right now are getting the Sultan with George Soros money to try to replace mayors and city council members who are defunding police across the country. This is happening in every suburban city that you think is Republican, most of your cities that you live in. Who here lives in a suburban area? 00:49:50 Speaker 1: Raise your hand? Who here is is in a rural area. 00:49:56 Speaker 6: The rural and suburban areas across America that have higher per capita, that have increasing you have homes being built. They're already targeting you, trying to take out your city council members. Replace them with squishy looking, rhino looking real Democrats that are acting like that, are claiming to be Republicans, and their whole goal is to defund the police. 00:50:20 Speaker 1: You gotta stop it. You got to you gotta get. 00:50:22 Speaker 6: About This is why at Turning Point actually talk about this. In swing states, particularly places like here in Arizona. You have to know who your city council members are. You have to hold these people accountable and yank them out of office if they're not. Number one priorities is defending you and defending your home. 00:50:39 Speaker 3: That's why you gotta get active, folks, just like Charlie wanted. You gotta get active. Be the mayor of your territory. 00:50:45 Speaker 1: Sir, Hi, I'm Sean White. 00:50:47 Speaker 20: I'm a part of the Turning Point executive board at James Madison University. I know I've got some other executive. 00:50:53 Speaker 1: Members for it out here somewhere. 00:50:55 Speaker 4: Congrats love the drip. 00:50:56 Speaker 3: By the way, thanks got a crisis king, He's got a Jesus wand I love I love it. 00:51:03 Speaker 5: So. 00:51:04 Speaker 20: I know a lot of my friends and a lot of Christians have differing viewpoints on the death penalty. So why should I as a Christian support and how do we justify the death penalty in the taking of a human life. 00:51:16 Speaker 10: I think it's a valid debate, and I think a lot of us have gone back and forth. I know Charlie went back and forth on it. I've gone back and forth on it myself. And it's understandable. As Christians, we are supposed to embrace mercy. We are supposed to forgive those who persecute us, and the death penalty seems greatly in tension with that. But it also says in the Bible that those who hold power, they wield the sword for a purpose, and they should wield it justly. When when Jesus meets with the Roman soldiers and he tells them what to do, he doesn't say, don't enforce the law, don't kill people. He says, don't oppress people, don't extort them, be content with your wages. And what we have to recognize is that there is a differentference that when the state, when the government enforces its laws, it is not acting as an individual seeking vengeance. 00:52:07 Speaker 1: It is not acting It is not enacting revenge. 00:52:10 Speaker 10: It is enacting justice as in the place of a king, essentially, and one aspect of justice may actually have to be to use lethal force on someone who is a sufficiently deadly or destructive cancer on a society. And I think we can recognize that in the case we're all thinking about right now, that if we have something like political assassinations in our country, people who would destroy our country by destroying people they disagree with, it's completely fair for the government to look at that and say that act is so heinous, so unacceptable, that anyone who commits it will be torn out of our society like the cancer that they are, before they infect the rest of it, before they destroy our society. And I think that's a completely just take on the most heinous crimes in our society. 00:53:05 Speaker 3: It is, and Charlie himself famously I'll paraphrase it, but Charlie said, and I post this every once in a while, that the death penalty isn't pro death, it's actually pro life because it values the life of the victim. It values the life of the victim, and it shows that that person's life had value. It shows that society believes that that person's life had value. And I personally believe that Charlie Kirk's. 00:53:33 Speaker 4: Life had value. 00:53:35 Speaker 3: And I also believe that there is a debt that needs to be paid, not just for Charlie, but for Erica, for the children, for every single minute and moment that was torn and stolen from them, their entire lives, who are not going to be having their dad home for this Christmas or any Christmas ever again. And to Blake's point as well, commit a political assassination and kill someone who is in the conduct of participating in free speech and free political dialogue, the bedrock of our society, then you have attacked our society itself. And as a society, we have a governmental administrative duty to correct that cancer and tear it out. 00:54:21 Speaker 1: Jack, did you know this? 00:54:24 Speaker 6: There are millions and millions of dollars spent every year of liberal lunatic organizations trying to eradicate the death penalty. 00:54:34 Speaker 4: Well, yes, Tyler, it's insane. 00:54:37 Speaker 6: So the question you have to ask yourself, why are there tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars being spent worldwide to try to promote the elimination or eradication of the death penalty. The quick answer is is that the left wins when they know chaos can ensue when the death penalty no longer exists. Just like what was said by Blake, just like wash up here by Jack, if we allow the most heinous crime to occur in this country with absolutely no penalty up until death, the left wins and they will sow chaos across this. So now you look at this ego and I want I think about this, Why would anybody insert themselves to try to eliminate the possibility of the death penalty in any circumstance where you add that heinous crime. It's just a really interesting thing to look at in the future, because I think this country is going to be under assault, particularly in the next few years here, where they're going to try to block block that from. 00:55:44 Speaker 1: From having it. 00:55:45 Speaker 6: We're gonna we're gonna see that because that's a muscle that the Left is trying to flex to, so more division and chaos across America. Yeah, and I'll just add at the memorial, you obviously saw Erica portrayed as the forgiving Saint, which is what you see in Romans twelve, where God says vengeance is mine, says the Lord. But then in Romans thirteen, after Erica got off stage and Trump came on stage, you saw Trump playing out Romans thirteen, which is I will appoint ministers of justice. And so it's really hard and even Charlie kind of went back and forth on it. I've gone back and forth on it takes a lot of strength to be Erica. But I mean, I like to see a certain person dead with the death penalty, I'll say that. 00:56:39 Speaker 1: But it's you know, it's an important difference. Actually. 00:56:41 Speaker 10: I think if you look at traditional Sharia countries, for example, they'll actually what punishment you want is placed on the victim or the family of the victim, and. 00:56:52 Speaker 4: They have that choice. 00:56:53 Speaker 10: And I think it's actually an important difference that in Christian society we do not foist that burden onto the victims of an offense, where you force them to have to choose between you know, mercy and justice. That is why we have the state wielding the power that it does. We should not ask Erica Kirk to decide what the penalty of her husband's assassin is. That is not just to her, and it's not just to our society. It is the role of the sovereign, the government, the state to enact justice on behalf of the people. 00:57:26 Speaker 4: I think that's right them, is that it's the state it. 00:57:31 Speaker 3: If this is biblically ordered, wield the sword, but wield it justly. 00:57:38 Speaker 4: Little Esse A good question, good question. 00:57:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, And guys, uh and I'm just gonna say shad out because they're not going to say it. But Blake and Mikey were there, all right. You see the tent is right over here. That's the tent. That is not like some facsimile or or you know, set up kind of thing. That is the tent. And I might want to put some stanchions around that, by the way, but but that's the actual tent right there. And Blake and Mikey they're sitting here, they're talking about this. They've been soldiering on. But they they didn't watch this on video. They were there standing feet away, steps away, and they've still been here at work, fighting hard, fighting for the mission every single day. So I just wanted to raise them up for a second because they they've been phenomenal. 00:58:36 Speaker 1: No conspiracy theorists today. We'll we'll comment on your trans shirt. So it's a nice shirt, sir. All right. 00:58:47 Speaker 21: My name is James Shirley. I starved with Second Battalion, fifth Marines. There any more Marines in the house, ro roight. So I have sort of a simple question, and Charlie was all about solutions. 00:58:58 Speaker 4: So I have a solution to to pitch. 00:59:02 Speaker 21: How can we really be truly America first if we're not putting our veterans first. Our children need real role models to look up to, and we don't need any more instances like happened at that Mormon temple that Iraq veteran could have been reached. So the solution that I'm proposing is a coalition between recruiters, Student of America, Club America turning point and hold those recruiters, hold colleges accountable that target veterans and sell them a lie for a degree that will get them nothing. I work for Boeing currently. 00:59:39 Speaker 1: I'm not proud of it. 00:59:40 Speaker 21: I'm also not proud to be a WSU graduate and alumni because that college wasted the majority of my GI bill on a degree that got me nothing but twenty cents dollars more an hour. If we can't reach every veteran through Christ, we can at least save them from themselves. 00:59:57 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, as I think the only veteran up here. 01:00:00 Speaker 3: You know, I'll just say, Tyler, what do you think Turning Point Veterans Coalition. 01:00:04 Speaker 1: We've talked about it for a long time. I brought it up before, Tyler, I have brought this up. I'll tell you this. 01:00:11 Speaker 6: Our veterans are being taken advantage of left and right, uh, you know, starting with the government because they we just do not do enough. And it's a it's a it's a back and forth teeter totter between Republicans and Democrats, you know, not getting things done, not taking care of the hospital system, not making sure that they get the health care that they need to start with. That's without without question. But I think here, I mean, we love our veterans here, right, thank you that. 01:00:45 Speaker 1: We got. 01:00:45 Speaker 6: We gotta talk a lot more about it because the first thing that this is why I love the President's agenda. 01:00:51 Speaker 1: And this is why this is. 01:00:52 Speaker 6: So important and we got to talk about this more often. Was putting veterans first was at the forefront of this last election because unfortunately, if we had not won this last election right now, we would be at war. It's like with that, without question, we would be you know, I, I speak a little bit of Russian, I would already be gone. I would be I would be a goner for sure, like they would. They would have thrown me up at the front of the line. Trust me, Republican, you know all that they would have thrown. 01:01:20 Speaker 1: Us in the front of the line. 01:01:21 Speaker 6: They This is this is where we have to especially as a movement that is driven by young men. At this point, we have a lot of young men that came to their senses this last election. We have to not abandon our military because we're we're not supporting crazy leftist war games that are out there. And so there is a happy medium that's there to talk about and Jack and you can talk about this at length. 01:01:48 Speaker 21: There needs to be an advocate there that's that's protecting us from trauma that's unnecessary. 01:01:52 Speaker 1: We have to protect we have to. 01:01:54 Speaker 6: I totally agree with President Trump we have to make our military as strong as possible, which means that we have to make those that fight for us as strong as possible, and men strength through peace and then strength through peace and not and not get into battles that we don't need to be in. 01:02:07 Speaker 3: What do you think, folks, Turning Point veterans, should we start it up? 01:02:14 Speaker 4: I love it. 01:02:14 Speaker 1: I love and by the way, a key part of that, A key part. 01:02:17 Speaker 3: Of that, I would add, and I just I would just add, is that, Tyler, what Turning Point veterans could also do. You mentioned about helping them get into schools, and obviously and when there's issues with the schools, but also helping veterans make the transition from from the military to the private sector, because we should not have a single unemployed veteran or homeless veteran in this country. And I'm sick the death of US spending so much money on illegal aliens when there are veterans who need it first. 01:02:49 Speaker 21: And if I could, if I could caveat that, But we don't need students deciding they're called to serve and going to serve then having no plan for the rest of their life. 01:02:58 Speaker 1: They need to be God centered. 01:03:00 Speaker 6: Well and I'll tell you what, I would love to hire every veteran in this room to help us chase ballots. 01:03:06 Speaker 1: Come out, you come out of the military. 01:03:07 Speaker 6: You go straight into the front lines of protecting this country. That's gonna also help cyclically develop that. So that's a good point. A part of this is turning point. Action has leaned in on the veteran element a little bit. We need to do a lot more, but a little bit and key targeting here for it. 01:03:25 Speaker 1: Swing state. We gotta win. 01:03:26 Speaker 6: We have to win and keep this country in good shape so we can protect ourselves and protect our veterans. 01:03:32 Speaker 21: I had a coworker at work tell me that what I wanted to do is potentially more dangerous than what Charlie was doing. 01:03:36 Speaker 1: And I just looked at me said, that's the point. 01:03:39 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Great question. 01:03:41 Speaker 6: God bless our veterans. Thank you for your servius. Mary Christmas. By the way, I don't know if you guys know this, but you're guys. You guys are gonna see the forty eighth president in the state forty eight here pretty quick. 01:03:58 Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait, wait, Mark Kelly's coming aoc He's gonna be here. 01:04:08 Speaker 6: No, Mark Kelly is such a whiss. He wouldn't show up here in debate Jack. 01:04:11 Speaker 3: No, I told because he got all mad at me, because because I was the one who broke the story that it turns out that his little seditious six rant was actually a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. And because he's getting a military pension, his investigation has now been raised to the command level of the entire Department of War. So he's freaking out. He said, oh no, oh no. And I said, Mark Kelly, Mark Kelly, Fine, if you want to be a man, you want to be a man, you could go to outer space. Well, if you can go to outer space, then you can come face me here in Phoenix, Arizona at Amfes. 01:04:48 Speaker 4: So Mark Kelly, I'm gonna be here all weekend. Man, I'm calling you out. 01:04:52 Speaker 6: We we we put him on stage right. 01:04:56 Speaker 1: Who would like to see Mark Kelly debate Jack? 01:05:01 Speaker 4: Let's go. 01:05:02 Speaker 6: We need to get louder louder. Well, i'd like to see Mark Kelly debate Jack. 01:05:08 Speaker 4: It's not gonna like. 01:05:10 Speaker 3: He's not gonna like it when I bring up all the money he's made from those Chinese by balloons. 01:05:15 Speaker 4: Oh he's not gonna like that. 01:05:17 Speaker 6: You know why Mark Kelly can't hear you right now because he's actually from Houston, Texas. 01:05:20 Speaker 1: He's not here Arizona. He can't hear you outside these All right, go to request. 01:05:24 Speaker 7: My name is Robert Albitel, and I come as the sole representative of the Turning Point Chapter at the University of South Carolina. 01:05:31 Speaker 1: All Right, all right, game Cox. 01:05:35 Speaker 7: Yeah, So a bit of context before I ask my question. My parents immigrated here legally from uh an Eastern European country known as Romania, and it was part of the Soviet you know Union, the Eastern Bloc, and they immigrated here for you know, me and my sister to have a better life, right as many people do. 01:05:58 Speaker 1: And so. 01:06:00 Speaker 7: I when they were growing up, they had to deal with because it was a socialist country. They had you know, bread lines that were only opened certain hours, and you had like tickets. 01:06:14 Speaker 1: It was essentially rationed. 01:06:16 Speaker 7: You had if you even had a car, you would only be able to drive on certain days based on which group you had. You know, my mom who watches your show every day and her sister, my aunt, considered cocoa powder to be like a luxury item equivalent to gold. Meanwhile, the president Nicol laou Chow Schisko at the time, who's arguably worse than Joseph Stalin, was having the heaviest building in the world and the second heaviest building, superseded only by Buckingham Palace, and had hundreds of billions of dollars to be built for him to live in. 01:06:56 Speaker 4: And so when I look at that, I've been in that building. 01:06:59 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's I mean, it's a great place to visit. I've been there too. Uh, but you know it shouldn't be talking About's palace. Yeah, I got lost. 01:07:08 Speaker 1: In there once. It's the whole story. 01:07:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would totally go this is Romania by the way, Yeah I got I got. 01:07:14 Speaker 1: Lost in that place. 01:07:14 Speaker 6: Did you know they like eliminated like half the city to build that thing. 01:07:18 Speaker 1: They they just like ran over. 01:07:19 Speaker 6: People's like you know about this, right, They just like got rid of like people's entire house, like just like ran over. 01:07:24 Speaker 1: Villages to build that thing. 01:07:26 Speaker 4: Communism. 01:07:27 Speaker 1: So just went down the street, They're like, is this they like knocked your house? It's like this your house. 01:07:31 Speaker 6: They like shot him on the spot, just like ran it over, and they built the palace on top of it. 01:07:35 Speaker 1: But then they too, so communist is terrible. 01:07:38 Speaker 7: Yeah, and we also have a big manufacturers. 01:07:40 Speaker 1: Anyways, you have a question. 01:07:42 Speaker 7: Yeah, uh so, looking at that, and when I see socially being not only advocated for, but also enacted in place like New York with Zoron, pay for me so I can give you free stuff, mom, Donnie. You know, I look at that, I think, oh my goodness, the American dream is under attack. I might not be able to live through it as someone who is Gen Z. And so I got to ask, you know, what can we do as a country to ensure that, you know, the youngest generation of voters coming in now, we'll be able to experience owning a home, having a family, and you know, experiencing the American dream. 01:08:13 Speaker 4: Let's go with Let's go with Mikey on this one. 01:08:15 Speaker 3: Mikey, why is it that you're starting to see this level of support for socialism Marxism among Gen Z? 01:08:22 Speaker 1: Yeah? 01:08:22 Speaker 6: Why do you support Zorona? Explain yourself? You why are you such as Zoron Stan? 01:08:29 Speaker 1: Yeah? 01:08:29 Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, there's radical problems facing young people. 01:08:33 Speaker 1: We're in the same generation. 01:08:36 Speaker 6: We can't buy a house, we have crippling student debt. We may not be able to afford a family one day, or have kids, or live out the American dream that our parents lived out. 01:08:45 Speaker 1: So we're asking ourselves. 01:08:46 Speaker 6: What are we going to do, And so we're turning to radical solutions, which is Zoron Mamdani and so Erica talked about this in a great speech recently where she said, the government is replacing huzz bins for women, and you saw that in New York where eighty percent over eighty percent of women voters in New York City voted in massive numbers for Zonon Mom Donnie, And so New York City is kind of like this Petrie dish of what our entire nation is going to be facing here in the next decade, which is rents out of control, not being able to afford a home, still paying off debt, credit card debt like crazy for young people, and then young women not wanting to get married, young men not also pushing off marriage until as far as late as they possibly can. And so you're turning to radical solutions instead of turning to hard work. But at the same time, we talked about veterans, young people are we want to help veterans, but young people at the same time, we're saying to ourselves we want to kind of turn our stance on foreign policy, and we have a very different stance on foreign policy than what are you know, older colleagues have. And we just are kind of sick of sending foreign aid to countries that don't necessarily need it because from the time we were born, there's been a conflict in the Middle East. From the time we were born, we've been seeing wars that the US has been involved in, and we don't want to see it anymore. And we want to see opportunities for young people to even get a job. By the way, young people can barely get jobs, and we also want to see veterans being taken care of. But when we talked about America first and America only VERSUS America first and not just America only, this is something that young people have a radical stance on because we're feeling it the most intimately. 01:10:42 Speaker 1: Like this is, these are massive problems for us. 01:10:45 Speaker 6: But you want to know the reality, Zora mob Donnie is actually a really scary mofo. And the reason why is because a lot of young people see him like they saw Obama. And we even said this because the night of the debate happened we did. We did it after debate thought Crime episode and we talked about this. Who here watched the debate, the Mom Donnie debate, Not that many go back and watch it. I mean, the guy is pretty slick like he talks. He talks really is a smooth talker. And that's exactly what, unfortunately, most of people want. 01:11:23 Speaker 1: They want to be told stuff even if it's not true. 01:11:27 Speaker 6: And the fact of the matter is is all commies are lying to you all the time. If there's a person that's lying to you and you can tell you know your best friend this, the next time they lie to you is they're most likely a Marxist. That is how they're taught. I mean, this is basically what we're being taught in school at our public universities. People are being taught to be Olynsky eyes. That you're supposed to be okay with the rules for radicals that these people are being taught and you're supposed to just dumbly take it and over and take it and then be like, oh, but mom, Donnie looks okay, and he is a well trimmed beard, and I'm sure he's not the worst, you know, And it's because a member of the Islam faith that I've ever met. But the reality is this is that the guy's a Marxist and he doesn't care about you as an individual. You know who cares about you as an individual. The guys who wrote the Constitution of the United States of America. 01:12:24 Speaker 1: That's individualism. 01:12:26 Speaker 6: And if we don't get serious about it, you're gonna have smooth talking mom Donnie's pop up in every single city and everyone's gonna be like, holy crap, how did this happen? 01:12:36 Speaker 1: Like overnight? 01:12:37 Speaker 6: Because they carbon copy and do the thing over and over again. So this is why it's important every person here. You gotta get involved politically. You can't sit back and just be like, I'm gonna let somebody else do it. You gotta take out the guys that And this is how Charlie Kirk came to be. I don't know if you know this story, guys. The story of Charlie Kirk is that the guys in Chicago so felt so bad about not stopping Barack Obama from rising up that Charlie Kirk was born and guys in Chicago all got together and they supported a kid who was the most genius kid that had come around the block in twenty twelve. That's the story. And I'll tell you I've talked to some of these guys that supported Charlie early are there's a lot of them that are here. They feel really bad that they didn't stop Barack Obama when they could have. 01:13:28 Speaker 1: He never should have been a state senator. To a US senator, you. 01:13:32 Speaker 6: Have to defeat these people at the state, at the state legislator chare level. You have to defeat these people the city council. You cannot let these Marxist become your school board members. If you do that, you win. If you stop them, we win. Stop them early. And by the way, why Charlie was so amazing to young people is he saw things in us that we didn't even see in ourselves. Okay, Like Charlie hired me when I was eighteen years old. He saw students as as the opportunity to America, not the problem to its future. And Marco Rubio said this at his memorial. He was like, when I found out Charlie, I said, what are you doing? He said, going to college campuses to talk about freedom and conservatism. He said, uh, that's a terrible idea. People thought he was crazy, but look where we are today. And so Charlie's not here, right, but our movement is. And so we have so many students. And so if you know a young person, tell them to get involved with a turning point chapter or to start a turning point chapter, because we need to carry this torch. 01:14:36 Speaker 1: We need to carry this legacy. 01:14:37 Speaker 6: And unfortunately the pull yourself up by the bootstraps analogy doesn't really work anymore for young people, and we need to just make it ourselves. 01:14:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you guys. 01:14:49 Speaker 4: Give it up for Mikey McCoy. 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All right, let's go to the question. 01:16:25 Speaker 18: My name is jud Kohut, and my question is why do why does the world want me to believe in the tooth fairy if they don't believe in Jesus Christ. 01:16:43 Speaker 4: I'll answer, I'll answer. 01:16:44 Speaker 1: I answer. 01:16:44 Speaker 4: It's very quickly. 01:16:45 Speaker 3: It's very simple, because they won't believe in the tooth theory and they'll tell you the tooth theory is not real because the tooth theory only offers them money. But Jesus Christ will offer eternal life in heaven for those who bel leaving him, and that is something that terrifies people who refuse him, terrifies him. 01:17:06 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Mary. 01:17:08 Speaker 6: You've got a great kid. Merry Christmas kid, keep it up. 01:17:12 Speaker 3: He just came up here and mogged everybody by answering the asking the best question we've had. 01:17:16 Speaker 1: The entire time. Hey, what's your name? Kit? What's that kid's name? What's your name? 01:17:22 Speaker 4: What's his name? 01:17:24 Speaker 10: June Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jou Jou Jude jud. 01:17:32 Speaker 1: I love your song, man. CrowdSurf that kid across. 01:17:34 Speaker 3: Great Beatles song Jude's going places. Yes, please Hi, CrowdSurf from all the way. 01:17:40 Speaker 22: To patriots from Washington State as a couple of. 01:17:43 Speaker 10: The other questions from Washington State here, I know, I'm surprised pleasantly. 01:17:46 Speaker 1: Who hears from Washington State? 01:17:49 Speaker 16: Wow, I did go to the University of Washington, So go dugs. 01:17:57 Speaker 1: No, no, No, you're from the Blue Side. 01:18:00 Speaker 22: No, I'm from the Yeah, I'm from the Blue Side. I'm from like a little bit south of Seattle. So it's it's rough there a little bit. But my question is, so I'm twenty eight years old. I'm kind of in that stage of life where like you're done with school, I have my degree, I started a career in graphic design. I work for my church, and with Charlie Kirk's passing, it just kind of hits something with me, like I want to be doing more obviously, like not in the stage of life where I'm married, having kids, and I go through this thought pattern of like what would be the most effective way to use my time? Obviously, like you'd think working for a church, I feel like I'm like doing something for the Lord. But I just like I want to reach people, and so my thoughts like do I stand on a corner and like preach the gospel? Do I like try to get hired at turning point, do I like, you know, I just I guess I'm just asking, like what what in your advice would be like the most effective use of time for a young adult who's in a stage in between school and family. 01:18:58 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you. 01:18:59 Speaker 6: From an activism standpoint, You've got two things that you can do that we provide at Turning Point that are really helpful. On the face side, So tposay faith, if your church is involved and all of that, that's great. I highly recommend it if that's your line, right, if that's if that doesn't fit for you for whatever reason, at turning Point action we can use your help a few hours a month, a few hours really a year to get involved. 01:19:25 Speaker 1: You're busy, you're starting a life. You've you've got work. 01:19:28 Speaker 6: You've got kids, you've got family, you've got whatever that you're starting. It's really hard if everybody just just donated, you know, somewhere in the in the realm of two to three hours a month just to get involved politically. 01:19:42 Speaker 1: You can do that. 01:19:43 Speaker 6: You can do that tpaction dot com here in Arizona, like you're in Washington, you could you could come down here next year. 01:19:49 Speaker 1: When we have our midterms. 01:19:51 Speaker 6: Your help in specific places for midterms is going to be really important. We had thousands and thousands of people come to Arizona last year for the election. Who here came as part of our ballot chasing? 01:20:02 Speaker 1: Did anyone here? Do you any ballot chasers here? 01:20:05 Speaker 6: Anyone that came down to Arizona or volunteered from where you're at us? 01:20:08 Speaker 4: See them? They're there? We do we have any future ballot chasers here? 01:20:14 Speaker 1: Yeah? Who's gonna go to everybody? 01:20:16 Speaker 4: That's everybody. 01:20:17 Speaker 6: But like so you can plan that ahead, right, like next October, come down to Arizona, help us win the governor's election here where you might not have that opportunity in Washington or somewhere else. 01:20:27 Speaker 1: Right. 01:20:27 Speaker 6: So that's how the left works, and they operate and get people involved. But you can contribute back and feel like you're involved with this bigger you know. I mean you can get this feeling, you know, every election, of being around good people that you agree with. 01:20:41 Speaker 3: That's that That is the correct political answer. But on a personal side, I'll just say this, be a rebel. 01:20:49 Speaker 4: Start a family. 01:20:51 Speaker 3: You will find no greater joy in life than getting married, having children, and bringing kids into the world. There is nothing better, no speech I've ever given, no event I've ever been to, nothing compares to just being with your kids and having them and raising them in every minute of it. 01:21:09 Speaker 4: Truly. 01:21:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, amen to that. What how old are you? Did you say? Twenty eight? Okay? 01:21:16 Speaker 16: So yeah, and you said your career is graphic design and you're busy with that. 01:21:21 Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean, well, to be honest, I actually just put in my two weeks because of that feeling of like I need to close the door on this and just open myself up for what Elsecott has stream. 01:21:30 Speaker 1: So I'm really in a place of just like, wait, wait, look, did you just put in your two weeks? 01:21:34 Speaker 4: I did. 01:21:34 Speaker 1: Do you want to be a graphic designer for Turning Point? 01:21:37 Speaker 6: There you go, and I'm pretty sure, I mean we you haven't been to our office. 01:21:45 Speaker 1: You have to move to Arizona be a graphic design here. But we'll take you. 01:21:49 Speaker 16: And I will say, Charlie was very proud of how many like marriages and babies had come out of the extended Turning Point family. So so maybe you could kill two birds with one stuff. 01:22:00 Speaker 1: Come to Arizona. Thank you so much. Next question, this guy don't don't worry about the trans shirt. It's it's okay, thank you, thank you. Next question, we're serious about that. 01:22:18 Speaker 6: If you go to the Turning Point Action booth, say hey, guys, over the Turning Point Action booth, we're sending a graphic designer. So just get hey, give them, give them your info. We're gonna hire you. 01:22:32 Speaker 1: All right, what's your question? Hi, my name is Christy. 01:22:36 Speaker 19: First, I want to thank all the people behind me who allowed me to come up to ask this question. I am a first generation State Side born Puerto Rican I am I was very proud to hear the gratitude to the Latino community for getting Trump in. However, my heart greaves for the disconnect found within the black and brown Christian Conservative churches and communities. As our country continues to grow with greater black and brown Christian people who do like to have big families and are very family oriented, I believe that there is a significant harvest. I was excited to find the Turning Point USA rise table, but from what I see, I'm wondering if there's more that can be done to reach these Christian conservative communities because there is such a political disconnect between conservative being conservative politically and and their religion and being a Christian. 01:23:36 Speaker 1: So I guess two things. 01:23:38 Speaker 19: I want to encourage for there to be more for the Christian brown and black communities. And I didn't know if you guys had anything off the off your cuff that you that's in the works right now to reach those families and those that young population. 01:23:54 Speaker 16: So are you saying that you see an opportunity It's hard to hear it here. You're saying it's there's an opportunity that you see with black and brown Christian community to reach them more, to become to vote conservative. 01:24:06 Speaker 1: Is that yet to vote correct politically? 01:24:08 Speaker 19: They're not conservative politically, they are so liberal and they don't see Yeah. 01:24:13 Speaker 16: You're right, they're socially conservative and politically liberal. It's very strange. But yeah, it's a total disconnect. I mean, that's why we have rise Right, and that's growing leaps and bounds. We have people in chapters in all fifty states and they're at all the HBCUs, they're in Hispanic communities. So it's a growing part of our organization, a growing part of our focus. Absolutely, we're pouring more resources into that. I would just say that, you know, we're seeing gains there, especially with young I would say the divide is about like forty forty five years old, fifty years old of African American men, Hispanic men that are not as linked to kind of the civil rights era of the past, and they're way more open to conservative ideas. 01:24:57 Speaker 4: Donald Trump has. 01:24:58 Speaker 16: Totally opened the the door, honestly for conservatism with those communities because he just comes at it from such a brash new approach. Listen, it's gonna be it's gonna be an uphill battle. But like you know, one of the political facts that people don't appreciate is that if you got twenty five thirty percent of the black vote in this country, not to mention the Hispanic vote, you would basically derail the national political prospects of the Democrat Party forever. 01:25:23 Speaker 6: Right you wipe out Yeah, now, you'd wipe out the Democrat Party. 01:25:29 Speaker 16: Yeah, they would be pretty much toast. I would just say, you know, Hispanics came our way a lot last time at but that's not written in stone. That is, we're already losing that vote again right now, so we're back to being behind. So we need to win that vote that they tend to here's what I would just say as well. They love immigration policy that is strong, that is masculine, that there's gonna protect the homeland. They don't want to live in a crime written society either. They don't want to live in a crowded society. They don't want to live in a dirty society. So the Hispanics a good immigration message. So I just want to challenge anybody out there that thinks they're gonna win over Hispanics within like an amnesty appeal. 01:26:06 Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen. 01:26:07 Speaker 16: So listen, we're making progress, but ultimately it's gonna be economics and border law and order. 01:26:13 Speaker 6: Can I tell you what Charlie would say. Charlie would say, go back to church. Start that right. We have so many young men that have written in that are from all sorts of communities, but also the Hispanic community, in the Black community that they hadn't been to church in a really long time with their families that said, hey, they wrote in. 01:26:34 Speaker 1: We got thousands of these. 01:26:35 Speaker 6: That said this is the first time I've been back to church for real in a long time, and they've stuck with it. 01:26:41 Speaker 1: We tell people this all the time. 01:26:42 Speaker 6: You don't have to be good at going to church, but encourage those men, in particular young men who have never been, who might feel weird because they've never been. They never were maybe even raised in a home where they had that opportunity to. 01:26:54 Speaker 4: Go to church. 01:26:55 Speaker 6: If you're a friend that has been to church and you see a friend that hasn't been, then bring that guy to church. 01:27:02 Speaker 1: Show them or girl. But what I'm saying, we're talking. 01:27:05 Speaker 6: About young Ben, this is the moment that this is the moment in history right now where we could make massive gains and showing people, hey, this is the right track to building a family and get politically on. Do you just go, you just show up, we just go. 01:27:20 Speaker 16: We do need revival in the Black church though, Honestly, and. 01:27:24 Speaker 19: When Charlie Kirk passed, I was attending. I was a member of a one black conservative Baptist church. And when that happened, all over social media we were being told if your church does not mention Charlie Kirk, leave the church. And that Sunday I sat in the in the pews, very nervous. It's a long story, but the Lord made it clear, no one is going to mention Charlie Kirk. 01:27:47 Speaker 1: So you do it. 01:27:48 Speaker 19: And I walked to the front by myself and I and I lifted up his name and I asked for prayer, God bless him. 01:27:56 Speaker 1: The church was shocked. 01:27:58 Speaker 19: They were shocked, and later they silently said thank you, thank you, but be the difference is when I'm saying, don't run away from those tough situations, step up and and because it can be done. 01:28:11 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your talking. Next question, think we're out of questions. That was one. You know, you're the second person that has said that. 01:28:36 Speaker 16: What you mean like you just, oh, do you want the AI like translation, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna do that for the you mean the the catalog, all right? Noted, you're the second person that said that to me, Jack, why don't you take us home? 01:28:52 Speaker 6: And it's not just Spanish, it's every other language. But here's the fight. Yeah, yeah, well this is this has been the battle. You can you can produce content. So there's a lot of conservatives that actually fight over this because they're like, why are you producing that in Spanish? 01:29:09 Speaker 1: Right, because it's like. 01:29:10 Speaker 6: This is an English country, force me it is okay to produce conservative content in Spanish that tells people to also learn English, right, like it's that's. 01:29:21 Speaker 1: A good thing, right. 01:29:22 Speaker 6: And so this is one of the things We've been in this debate for a long time with a lot of people. And I'm not saying you said this, but I'm just bringing this topic up. 01:29:31 Speaker 1: It is okay. 01:29:31 Speaker 6: We have a lot of pockets in America because of rampant immigration issues, right, whether it's illegal or legal in America, that are never going to hear or understand the topics that are at hand if you don't speak to them and go and meet them at least halfway. 01:29:47 Speaker 1: And so I totally agree. 01:29:48 Speaker 6: I think we should we should do those things in those communities so that people can hear them. 01:29:53 Speaker 4: One more question, quick one, quick one. 01:29:56 Speaker 23: Yeah, I had a question. I'm my name is as Unik, and I'm real close to the mic, and I'm from. 01:30:01 Speaker 1: Alaska, and oh yeah, question and the state. 01:30:07 Speaker 23: And it's kind of more of a statement slash question. It's everybody thinks that Alaska is like a big red state and it's not. It's starting to turn very blue. 01:30:18 Speaker 1: It's becoming a swing state. 01:30:19 Speaker 23: We have Mary pittol in Congress now and that should not be the case. We have Lisa Murkowski, who is basically a Democrat. And if we have three senators, two senators that are making the difference, the the turning the tide in the Senate right now, I feel like there should be way more investments and resources into Alaska and considering it more as a swing state. That way we can make sure it is read for a long time. 01:30:49 Speaker 3: Tyler, I know you were going for it. How do we fix Alaska? 01:30:51 Speaker 6: Well, you know why. Alaska is like most recently screwed up. Right right choice voting is the worst. Everybody here needs to know it. You need a tattoo on yourself. No to ranked choice voting. California and Washington and so many other states, so many other states got screwed up because of a top two primary system. They screwed with the elections, and that's what drove your state deep blue. 01:31:20 Speaker 1: Guess what the new thing is. 01:31:22 Speaker 6: So that was so unpopular, they're not going to ever pass that in another state, the top two primary system that but now California and Washington are screwed up permanently because of that. The new thing is ranked choice voting, and they're not trying to produce rank choice voting in deep blue states. They're trying to institute it in red states like Alaska, and then what happens, you will like democrats through the system. And I can get into all the details of why. What's important is that everybody here is a warrior, leaves this place and goes Rank choice voting is not going to enter my state ever, right Alaska, Alaska's to fix. Let's get rid of it. 01:32:01 Speaker 1: It's true. 01:32:02 Speaker 6: You gotta get rid of ranked choice voting to turn back the clock. 01:32:05 Speaker 1: And it's still within the time period. I think you can do that. We're working on it. 01:32:09 Speaker 23: But they worded it really weird, whereas like vote no if yes and vote yes if no, and so it didn't pass and now it's gonna it's on the ballot again. 01:32:17 Speaker 6: It's horrible. A Lisa Murkowski is a total Democrat. It's insane that you have to deal with that. But that's the only way she survives now is you get people who act like Democrats and ranked choice voting and that's it. 01:32:29 Speaker 1: They're frauds. Appreciate it. 01:32:33 Speaker 4: All, right, folks. 01:32:34 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, unfortunately that is gonna have to close it out for thought crime. 01:32:39 Speaker 1: Live should do it. Charlie shant I, R oh, we will, we will hold on, and. 01:32:46 Speaker 3: We have right here the original four guys on Thought Crime Live that we used to do the show every Thursday with our good friend, and he's on here right now because he's on assignment. He's on permanent assignment with God. I like to think that Charlie's got the nine to noon hour and then Rush, of course is noon to three up there in heaven every single day. And we're gonna continue this fight. We're gonna continue this show. We're gonna continue all of this in Charlie's honor, and I hope that all of you will continue to do what Charlie would say at the end of every single Thought Crime episode, go out there and commit thought crime. 01:33:35 Speaker 24: Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie. 01:33:53 Speaker 1: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.