Therapy, Grievance Culture, The Web: What's Melting the Left's Brains?

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The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. 00:01:09 Speaker 3: All Right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's January fourteenth, twenty twenty six. It's a new year, but the same old tactics are being deployed in the streets of American cities to battle deportations, mass deportations, something Charlie cared a lot about, something we at the show continue to care a lot about. I believe that deportations and immigration is the single most important issue. There's lots of important issues, but I believe it is the most important issue to fixing the country. It is the switch, when flipped, that could fix a number, if not all, the ills that we are currently facing. So what is happening right now in the streets of Minneapolis. We have a scourge of tyrannical, often white, affluent ladies, leftist ladies who are now being used as cannon fodder on the front lines of communist front groups attempting to attack and delegitimize ICE operations in Minneapolis, Los Angeles, Portland, beyond Chicago, New York. And so we have to analyze what is actually happening. How are they going about recruiting this whole crop of women. Often it's men, too, be fair, but it is often women, often childless women, often white women, that are putting their bodies on the line to impede, obstruct, harass, harangue, and attack law enforcement personnel in the streets of America's cities. So Blake, The question then, is what is an awful? I want to start with our base operating language here so that everybody's on the same page. 00:02:42 Speaker 4: So an awful is this is a slang term. It's probably about a decade old at this point. Yes, and it's short for affluent white female liberal AWFL. But you pronounce it awful for well, pretty pretty clear reason. Yeah, and it's a type. It's a type we see over and over again. We're seeing it in these ice protests. But you saw it a tundering BLM. Most people probably know an awful or two, and it's it's contained within that. So affluent white female liberal it's it's generally they don't need to be ultra rich, but generally at least middle class, reasonably secure. They're very much the stereotypical intense you know, put up in this house, we believe signs, but they do it with usually within a pretty strong cocoon of security. 00:03:32 Speaker 3: So you know, we'll put like. 00:03:34 Speaker 4: Immigrants welcome in their neighborhood that has you know, pretty low immigrant population that's very secluded from America's They still live in a neighborhood that looks like it's nineteen fifty eight. 00:03:44 Speaker 3: They you know, will. 00:03:46 Speaker 4: Really hate on police and then live in a suburb that's very far away from anywhere that the police are really needed that much, very militant about. You know, probably spend a lot of too much time on social media, so they get very whipped up on every cause. They change their profile, pick for every new thing, every new thing, every new scandal, every every to do uh. And they they tend to have enough free time to get very involved in activism, so they go to marches. So ten years ago they would be or fifteen years ago, they would be marching. 00:04:16 Speaker 3: For gay rights. 00:04:18 Speaker 4: Ten years ago they'd be getting whipped up for blm anti Trump. And you know today now they're going around saying that ICE is the Gestapo. 00:04:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, Nazis. They're they're referring to themselves as the French Resistance, which the French Resistance obviously was fighting the Nazis. So it's a this is an MSNBC now msn ms now reporter referring to them as this. But they are organized, they are being trained, they are being dispatched in a coordinated effort to harass, harangue, attack ICE officers. They are convinced that they are freedom fighters, that this is the modern day, noble, virtuous cause that they have become wrapped up in for righteous reasons. And it's incredible the number of people that they can convince that this is in fact true. And what's wild is you have black women like Joy Reid encouraging white women to put their bodies on the line, their white bodies on the line. Play cut three sixteen. 00:05:20 Speaker 5: This woman was part of a group of people who they train to try to be ICE interrupters, and what they try to do is observe what ICE is doing, film them, and try to use their white privilege. To be honest, they're mainly white people. 00:05:34 Speaker 4: Which is what we ask which is what we ask for it. 00:05:36 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, because black people like we can't get on, we can't put our bodies on the line because cops will shoot us. And so the presumption had been particularly a white woman because remember part of the rationale for doing this with ICE is to save white women, christine, white women from being ravaged by you know, criminal brown men. So they white women have been taking the lead Gosh. 00:05:57 Speaker 3: The race Lady Joy Reid. She continues to haunt us from beyond cable news in the nightly broadcast. But why this is important, Blake, is because they are actually encouraging real crazy people to and I believe this is the entire game is they're gonna say all these crazy things. You got Jacob Frace and get out, You're not welcome here. You're gonna have everybody comparing them to the Gestapo and Nazis and all of this, and then you're gonna have actual crazy people. You shake the tree long enough, some are gonna fall out and do crazy stuff that actually are advocating for killing, shooting, ramming, running over Ice agents through twenty seven dame on them, Run. 00:06:37 Speaker 6: Right on, aren't we We are right and we're gonna stand up and we're gonna fight, Like how. 00:06:47 Speaker 3: Are you running to fight? Completely deranged off their rock or off their meds. 00:06:52 Speaker 4: There's more examples the chantings besides the point it's a There was a reporter from the Free Press who has been in Minneapolis and talking to people, and he spoke with ICE agents who say that they're having put up a three forty seven there he says that these protesters are loosening lugnuts on their car, on their cars like when they're in parking lots. They're tracking federal vehicles using air tags. They use whistles to kind of stalk them and just like blow them constantly to be like ices here. It's like a constant attempt at harassment of law enforcement, hindrance of law enforcement. And of course we see them blocking roads, ramming attacks on cars and the most extreme outcomes, which I don't think awfles are going to do this, but this is going to be though you Tyler Robinson types. There's gonna be someone who's whipped up about this. They've read too many posts on Blue Sky, seeing too many tiktoks, and they're mentally unwell, and they're gonna take a rifle and shoot these guys. Yeah, and I don't think you can, frankly, when you just you can go on Blue Sky and find people saying shoot ice on site. They are literal gestapo agents. That's from someone calling herself Lady Rain. She her has an anime avatar that might that might be a biological and we have. 00:08:05 Speaker 3: This three thirty eight through three forty one, just roll through some of these literally just organize and shoot ICE on site. They are literal Gestapo agents. Go to the next one. I'm sorry, Alliance Against Gun Violence, but with a recent ice murder and shootings, I think police organizations across the country should have every officer shoot ICE agents on site. 00:08:29 Speaker 4: I've seen way too many VIDs of Ice Nazis brutalizing us, murdering us. It would not surprise me to see Americans randomly shoot ice Nazis on site in an effort of self protection survival. 00:08:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and here you go. There's another another example three twenty eight. This is a TikTok leftist saying, the big lesson from Minneapolis is that you gotta get your car worked onne so you can drive faster over an ICE agent three twenty eight. 00:08:56 Speaker 7: All we're learning from this is that you should hit the gas if they're they're if you should, you should run them over. You should run them over with your car, and you should do it quickly before they can shoot you. 00:09:05 Speaker 4: I have to go to my mechanic. 00:09:07 Speaker 7: I have to get my car fixed so that I can drive faster, just in case this is insane. You you should hit them. You should hit them they will say you hit them anyway, you should hit them with your car. 00:09:19 Speaker 4: The best way to not have a bad interaction with ICE is to just let ICE do the DRUP better. Yet, let ICE go to jails to arrest, to lest the illegals who wind up there, go to prisons to arrest of the leegals who wind up there, go to court to arrest of the illegals who wind up there. Well, now we're gonna and then you don't need to do raids in random neighborhood. 00:09:40 Speaker 3: And I want to talk about this because Joe Rogan has gotten into the fray basically saying that these raids are too extreme, they're too brutal. And I couldn't disagree more with Joe Rogan. And to Blake's point, if Minneapolis wants raids and wants street raids, and you know, abductions or apprehensions on the streets stop, then maybe they should coordinate with ICE. Maybe they should coordinate with DHS when they actually pull somebody over, arrest them, put them in jail. You could do that securely, safely, but they were refusing to do that. They would rather release the criminals back onto the streets of Minneapolis. And that's what these women are fighting for. 00:10:18 Speaker 2: If you're tired of watching this country drift away from the values that made it great, it's time to get involved. That's why I stand with AMAC, the Association of Mature American Citizens. 00:10:27 Speaker 3: Charlie loved this country and he loved partnering with organizations that truly stand for what makes America great. One of our most trusted partners, AMAC, the Association of Mature American Citizens, is doing something special in Charlie's honor. AMAC is offering free memberships to all ages, no credit card, no strings attached, just a chance to stand for faith, family, and freedom. Join this movement. Go to AMAC dot us slash Charlie today. That is AMAC dot us forward slash Charlie Today. Blake, you had a clip that you wanted to throw too. 00:11:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so we were just we we were showing all of the escalating, insane rhetoric. But this one is really, really deranged, and it's a good example of social media just makes people feel people can run their mouths in ways that I don't think they did before. Let's play clip three forty four. 00:11:19 Speaker 3: I don't really care about the consequences anymore. 00:11:21 Speaker 8: I don't care. 00:11:22 Speaker 6: We need to kill these people because we've had three people die in like seventy two hours, and we've had over almost thirty die in the since in the last year to a group of quote unquote law enforcement that is basically just buffed up mall cops right who are gun triggering. 00:11:39 Speaker 3: Happy proud boys. Let's call them what they are. It's the proud boys. 00:11:41 Speaker 6: Why do you think we. 00:11:42 Speaker 9: Didn't hear about them. 00:11:43 Speaker 6: They're Nazis. Peyton said it best. They're Nazis. And the only way to stop this, let's be honest, is going to be to get violent. We gotta get violent people. And I'm tired of denying it, and I'm tired of y'all being busy about it. 00:11:55 Speaker 3: Grow up. 00:11:56 Speaker 8: We're not gonna get through this. 00:11:58 Speaker 10: Holding hands. 00:11:59 Speaker 8: Peaceful protest only works if your enemy has a moral obligation to listen to it. 00:12:04 Speaker 10: They have none. 00:12:05 Speaker 8: You guys are sitting there holding up signs and saying, Oh, I'm mad at you, You're pathetic. 00:12:14 Speaker 4: Burn something, burn something, shoot something, and it's just clear what they want. There's also this article that happened yesterday in the Daily Beasts that had me really angry at from a guy Tom Latcham in case someone can, I don't know, go harass that guy. It's personal details of thousands of border and ICE Border Patrol and ICE goons allegedly leaked in huge data breach. 00:12:37 Speaker 3: That's the headline Ice Goons, and it's all. 00:12:39 Speaker 4: About there's some foreign website I believe it's operated out of the Netherlands and it's called ICE list and it's literally just like a wiki style database of every single person who works at DHS that they can get information on and they get their names, they're getting their phone numbers, they're using that to cross reference and get their addresses. The goal is to get as much much information as possible at every single person who works with ICE and with the Border Patrol for so that someone can watch that video, get all worked up, find the person at ICE who lives closest to them, go there and shoot them in the face. 00:13:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is really why you're getting at the core of why this is important. I mean, we saw this with Charlie right that the left used dehumanizing language about Charlie's a Nazi, Charlie's a racist, Charlie's a bigot, Charlie's a hater. You know, even Tyler Robbinson there's just some hate you can't negotiate out or something like that, right, that was a statement. And that's what they're doing here, is they're intentionally dehumanizing conservatives. They're intentionally dehumanizing ICE agents, law enforcement personnel, federal personnel, in order to justify their murder, in order to justify doxing them, harassing them, harassing their family, attacking their family. Who knows what these psychos are capable of. And again I go back to this fact that if these urisdictions do not want raids, at least at this scale, then they would cooperate with ICE. They are actually letting out onto the streets murderers, child abusers, child rapists, They are letting them back out on the streets, and instead of deporting them, they have them all over the country. Now we're up to about six hundred and fifty thousand deportations actually above that. Now those are forceful removals from the country, six hundred and fifty thousand of them. According to Tom Home and Borders our Tom Home in about sixty five to seventy percent of those are actual criminals that have committed crimes once breaking the law to get in here in the first place, right, So they're all criminals because they got here without us welcoming them or doing it the right way. But then sixty five to seventy percent of the six hundred and fifty thousand that have been deported are actual criminals on the streets. And I have to come for Joe Rogan because he is simply wrong on this issue. Play cut three thirty six. 00:14:53 Speaker 9: You don't want militarized people in the streets just roaming around snatching people up, many of which turn out to actually be US citizens, they just don't have their papers on them. Are we really going to be that the Gestapo? Where's your papers? Is that what we've come to? 00:15:08 Speaker 3: All right? Joe, I'm a fan, Charlie was a fan and admire but you're wrong. Out of the six hundred and fifty thousand forceful deportations, approximately one hundred and seventy of those apprehensions were temporarily misapprehensions, meaning that they were mistaken identities they were eventually released. That is a success rate of over ninety nine point nine percent to demand one hundred percent, you know, I would say accurate apprehensions, to demand one hundred percent accuracy is unreasonable, and a scale of this it shows. 00:15:53 Speaker 4: The power of how media narratives framed people, because how often do you think the police arrests the wrong person in just normal law enforcement all the time, all the time. Oh, we thought you were involved in this thing. We were mistaken. You have to let them out. We went into some there was a fight, for example, and we arrested everyone in the fight, and we later deduced actually only some of them were responsible for starting this fight. 00:16:18 Speaker 3: This happens all the time. 00:16:19 Speaker 4: Or they round up a bunch of kids and actually only some of those kids were being troublemakers. That happens, happens all of the time. And frankly, you know, I bet the media could make a gigantic whip people up into a mob about that if they really wanted to. And instead the focus is endlessly ice ice ice, the NU Gestapo, ice ice ice. So in fact, we did this. They did this with police from twenty thirteen through twenty twenty. They whipped people up against police. We got the George Floyd moment. Crime doubled overnight, and then people thought, oh wait, actually, oh wait, the police were just they were lying to us. About the police the whole time, and now they're running the same operation on ICE, and unfortunately, there's just a lot of people. I think Joe Rogan is very emboloic of somewhat less engaged voters. Maybe I'll just say like lower information voters, and just they're easily swayed one way or the other by a narrative, especially if it's a novel narrative or something they haven't quite seen before. So I think if they were doing this to normal cops, he would recognize the pattern. But ICE isn't normal cops. It's slightly different. It's a new issue, and it just it slightly alters their brain. 00:17:23 Speaker 3: But yeah, they're not. 00:17:24 Speaker 4: Going to be one hundred percent effective on these things. 00:17:26 Speaker 3: Well, listen, a temporary apprehension. In the course of six hundred and fifty thousand plus forceful deportations of people that shouldn't be here, sixty five to seventy percent of them are criminals. I'll take that success rate any day. 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It's not just women that are getting co opted by these communist front groups to go put their body on the line like cannon fodder to fight ice or whatever, playing g I Jane in the streets. It is men too, and it help us diagnose actually what's going on here, because I think it's a larger societal illness, a mental illness. Genuinely, we call it trumped arrangement syndrome, but it's like something even bigger than that, and it's enveloped in kind of an anti colonial thing and an anti Western, anti white thing. Is psychotherapist Jonathan Alpert. He's the author of a book that comes out in May called Therapy Nation. I thought it was pertinent and relevant to our discussion today. Jonathan, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's great to have you here. 00:20:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having me, Andrew, I appreciate it. 00:20:03 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. And so you wrote this book, Therapy Nation. You've kind of gone viral a couple times in the beginning of the year and the end of last year talking about some of these I guess mental ailments that we see in the social media era, this hyper online era. What do you make of these young people, often on the left, that are so motivated by the propaganda that they're willing to go literally ram ice officers, put their bodies on the line, risk their lives by playing stupid games. What do you make of it? 00:20:35 Speaker 12: Yeah, and you have to really examine how we got to the point where people are willing to cross police lines and put themselves in such a harmful position. And you know, it's a tragedy what happened in Minnesota, and it shouldn't have happened, but it did. And we have to look at what's going on in people's heads. And we have grievance culture that has just run wild. And if you look at the Louis man gi Own case, that's always a good example. You know, you have someone who felt it was his right, his duty to take out this CEO of the United Healthcare. There are a million different things he could have done instead of killing this guy, but he chose to do this. And what happens is people villainize a person, an organization, a company, a politician, and then they just feel that it is absolutely their right. 00:21:28 Speaker 1: To take action on it. 00:21:29 Speaker 12: And we've seen great tragedies as a result of this type of deranged thinking. 00:21:36 Speaker 1: And you're right. 00:21:37 Speaker 12: I did write a piece in the Wall Street Journal talking about Trump derangement syndrome, and I made it clear that it's not an actual diagnosis. But what I see in my practice is deeply concerning to me. We have people who are sick, they're staying up at night, they can't sleep at night, they're highly anxious, they feel that they're empowered and they can just take action. And it's a real concern of mine and the mental health profession. My profession really needs to take a hard look at what's going on with these people. 00:22:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it to me, Jonathan, it feels like these groups, these radical leftist groups, by the way, that we need to root out the funding networks. Treasuries working on that. We're going to have some folks from Treasury soon talking to them about how the progress is going about rooting out the funding networks and the different connections. Right. We got ms ICE Watch that's actually training these agitators and activists on how to disrupt ICE proceedings and ICE operations in cities like Minneapolis and Portland and elsewhere. But it feels to me that they are being preyed on. These women are being preyed on. What makes them so vulnerable and this is men too, to be fair, it's men and women. But what makes them so vulnerable? Because Blake here, who's may I think, defined it really well. A lot of these people are sort of cocooned in communities or backgrounds that were safe, that were thriving, that we're happy in many ways, and yet they are so alienated from America or so antagonistic to America that they feel like this is some virtuous cause. Why are they vulnerable? Doctor? 00:23:13 Speaker 12: Yeah, and you're right, it is both men and women and everything in between, of course, And I think part of the problem is social media. It's some media outlets, echo chambers are created, and people are just surrounding themselves with people like minded people and data that's not entirely accurate. So many of my patients over the past several years have talked to me about how. 00:23:37 Speaker 1: They think that Trump is Hitler. They think he's a Nazi. 00:23:41 Speaker 12: He's going to round up certain segments of the population send them off to a far away island. And we all know this isn't true, but some people actually believe this. And when all you do is surround yourself with like minded people, you actually do start to believe that it becomes easier to villainize Trump or ice officers or police officers. 00:24:07 Speaker 1: And I think that's partially. 00:24:08 Speaker 12: What we have playing out on the streets across America and specifically in Minnesota. 00:24:13 Speaker 4: Jonathan, does this is there like any end stage for this? It just it feels so it feels like this does end in some sort of like catastrophic melts, a meltdown. I mean, we've seen some of these people who they they just seem super genuinely mentally unwealth. Is this a phase that passes and they get over it? Does it get worse? And worse. I guess it just doesn't seem super stable to me. 00:24:36 Speaker 3: Is there healing? 00:24:36 Speaker 1: Well, it's definitely not stable. 00:24:39 Speaker 12: And I've appeared on Fox TV a number of times and I've discussed how political division is wreaking havoc on our society. And we just came out of the holiday season and I had patients who refuse to attend holiday dinner with their Trump voting uncle or their progressive cousin. 00:24:59 Speaker 1: And this really needs to end. 00:25:01 Speaker 12: You know, one of the things that I urge my patients to think about is that family and friends should be more important than any political figure or political party. Unfortunately, we're not seeing that, and it's reached a bit of a fever pitch over the past few years. So people really need to get back to what's important to them. And honestly, most of my patients are too busy trying to earn a living and support their families than to go on the streets and protest law enforcement officers. 00:25:33 Speaker 4: Well, so you say the family and friend part is important, I get why do you think we've gotten away from that? We've talked about that on the show a lot, Charlie. We talked about that a lot that there is that loss of family. It seems so widespread though, that it clearly seems systematic, institutional, societal. I'm not sure people. It seems like people just can't have the friends and family that they used to. Everyone's too online. Is that the case you feel? 00:26:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, and people are. 00:26:02 Speaker 12: They're not looking at facts and data, they're looking they're looking at the situation through the lens of emotion, and that's really largely what's driving a lot of the behaviors that we're seeing playing out, a lot of the pathological behaviors. And if people could get back to two friends, family, kids, passions hopefully that don't include politics, I think we'd get back to a much better place as a nation. 00:26:28 Speaker 3: So this is the new clip that's going around, and you know, obviously the death of Renee Good, we do not celebrate that. We actually feel terrible that she was convinced that this was a good idea for her to go in the streets and obstruct ice officers and that it ended in her death, and we think that's a tragedy. That being said, there's another video that seems to be riling everybody up. My question for you on the other side of this video is when does activism agitation turn into direct and outright violence and what are the precursors for that three thirty. 00:27:00 Speaker 10: Four injury down. 00:27:14 Speaker 3: I was just to get to the doctor, so she was blocking ICE agents in the street. She was told to get out of the way. She didn't obey commands, which seems to be a theme here. I don't know if they're getting trained to intentionally disobey law enforcement commands and orders, but this is the video that is now being used to rile up more activists, more agitation, more agit prop, if you will. Is this what they do intentionally so that a few crazies become willing to use actual violence. 00:27:48 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:27:48 Speaker 12: I actually think that's part of what's going on here. I think these people have simply lost sight of of morals and what's important. And we have laws in place for a reason, and I think they're just overlooking the fact that these these laws exist. And you know, these people are are parents, if they're spouses, I don't think that's coming into their their thinking in that moment when they decide to violate or not obey the law enforcement officers. But that shows you just how powerful this is. People are willing to sacrifice indirectly, unconsciously, their lives for this cause that's not even rooted in fact. So it's deeply concerning to me as a mental health professional what we're seeing play out on the streets. I used to be that you would go out there and make some noise and get your get your statements out there, and get your thoughts out there. But now we have people that are actually risking their lives and that's that's a very dangerous place to be. 00:28:49 Speaker 3: Yeah. And and I guess the question is, you know this hits home for us personally with what happened with Charlie, is this dehumanizing language ultimately makes these some of these crazy people that they're doing something righteous when they used violence. Again, when you call them Gestapo, when you call them Nazis, what are the precursors? What do you need to look for with people that could be actually turning violent and using guns, cars, whatever. 00:29:14 Speaker 12: Yeah, and that's what I saw with President Trump as well. We had people that would just demonize him. They were convinced that he was a Nazi, a dictator, and that just gave them the right in their pathologic mind to take to take action. I think these people lack purpose in their lives. I think they there's underlying anxiety depression. There's a lot of catastrophic thinking, a whole lot of drama in their lives, and these people largely need an object to displace that onto And we saw it here in New York with the election with Mamdani and the hatred towards towards wealthy people. It almost seems like they always need someone to blame for their own shortcomings. There was once a time when we would look at wealthy people and feel inspired by them and try to figure out how we could get to that place. But now in some people's mind we go right towards hatred, so admiration doesn't seem to exist these days. 00:30:19 Speaker 3: Doctor, you said that seventy five percent of your patients and this is one of your viral stories, have what you would call TDS. You know, you're saying it's not an actual diagnosi, it's not clinical, but this is what you would describe about seventy five percent, Is that right? 00:30:33 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:30:33 Speaker 12: And it's not an actual diagnosis, but a lot of what I'm seeing, the symptoms the high anxiety people rearranged in their lives, deciding who they date, who they're friends with, whether they can take a vacation or not. These are pretty significant actions that are that are happening. And I would say about three quarters of my patients are impacted by this in some way, and I even went so far as to say it's the defining pathology of the last half decade. 00:31:06 Speaker 3: Well, hopefully we can get through this. Doctor. Thank you for your time. We appreciate your insight. All right, God bless you, and we'll talk to you. 00:31:15 Speaker 1: Think about it. 00:31:20 Speaker 3: Every single dollar you spend is either supporting your values or working against them. 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That's full of Ice, and then Eric the Red sails further and discovers Greenland and he names supposedly he names it Greenland to scam people into wanting to move there. They did have Norse settlements there for a long time. It didn't work out great for them. They were I believe eventually they were conquered. They kind of they had too much inbreeding and they kind of fell into societal Okay, there were only a few thousand people there and they were eventually conquered and killed by the Inuits, who were not the original native inhabitants either. And then eventually Denmark reacquired it, so it's not that they were always there, they actually reacquired it later after this. They've been holding it a long time. As I'm sure all of you know by now, President Trump has become very interested in acquiring Greenland. There's a lot of reasons to do that. It is super far north and so a lot of you may know, other than the Alaska near being near Russia, the fastest way for America to European Russia is straight north over the North Pole. That matters a lot for things like nuclear submarines ICBMs, all of those things it's just fastest point between two areas on a globe, and so we've had military bases in Greenland ever since throughout the Cold War. It's all noteworthy. On top of that, it's a big chunk of land. There are potentially a lot of natural resources beneath the thick Greenland ice sheet. It could be economical to extract those someday as other sources of resources run out. So President Trump's been very interested in that. Today, the Danish foreign minister was in the United States in the Eisenhower Building to have a meeting with. 00:34:39 Speaker 3: JD. 00:34:40 Speaker 4: Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio. We sounds like we're going to have a press statement from those Danish ministers any minute now. It'll be interesting what they say. 00:34:49 Speaker 3: We've heard that it went very well heard. We have it. 00:34:53 Speaker 4: We have a source who was at the meeting who saw what the Vice President and what Mark Rubia did. Remember, they're supposed to be in a feud with each other, but they seem to be working They're not. Of course they're not. 00:35:02 Speaker 3: They are allies. 00:35:03 Speaker 4: They are working together on this. They're very act Yeah, of course they're and apparently they have made us proud on this one. It's very interesting what's going on though the White House. It's clear this is a passion project of the president. Just today, the White House tweeted which way Greenland man? And it's two kind of sled dog things at the Greenland flag. And you know, you can go with America or with China Russia. And that's the line President Trump was taking today. He also posted this untruth this morning the United States. The United States needs Greenland for the purpose of national security. It is vital for the Golden Dome, that's his missile defense shield that we are building. NATO should be leading the way for us to get it. If we don't, China or Russia will. And that is not going to happen militarily. Without the vast power of the United States, much of which I built during my first term and am now bringing to a new and even higher level, NATO would not be an effective for uce or deterrent, not even close. They know that, and so do I. NATO becomes more formidable and effective with Greenland in the hands of the United States. Anything less than that is unacceptable. And I was always thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald Trump. So this is it's all very interesting. I think the President is right, it makes more sense for Greenland to be with the United States. What I do worry is he is definitely making this hard sell on it. He's being very aggressive with Greenland's being very aggressive with the Europeans, and maybe I'm a softy. I think there's a very strong win win win case, and you see the echoes of that in what he's saying, which is that it would make NATO and our defense stronger if it's with the United States in some sort of permanent arrangement. As is, we have the bases there, we've always had military access to it. 00:36:46 Speaker 3: Especially after World War Two exactly. 00:36:48 Speaker 4: But I think there's an active Greenland independence movement, and I think people who do the math they wonder, well, if Greenland were to get become independent. It's not very big. It's population is under a hundred thousand people. There's fewer people. There's fewer people in it than in Tempe. There's fewer people there than in I think there's probably individual there's individual square miles of New York City that have more people than Greenland does. And so if you do the math on this, it's just an island that Big is not going to be a truly independent country. It's going to be dependent on somebody, the same way a lot of Pacific islands are basically dependent on the United States or on Australia, and so it's going to be dependent on someone. If it became independent. It could be that it will fall under Russian or Chinese sway. They might just back up a dump truck of money and say we're going to try to buy you out, or they might just bribe people. There's not a lot of people, you could bribe the entire government something like that. And so Trump is saying that's not an acceptable outcome. But he could also point out Greenland is basically a welfare ward of Denmark. Denmark does not profit off of this arrangement. They spend billions a year propping it up. America is far more capable of handling that expense. Oh well, we have to support fifty five thousand mostly welfare dependence, and we do that in a lot of Chicago suburbs too, and so we're able to bear that cost more. And we can say Denmark, thank you for doing this, You're a great ally. Here's a giant pile of money and also will guarantee a giant pile of money for the Greenlanders, like we can give them more money than you do, and we get better security. I think there's a very strong win win win case to be made here. And what I think would be the worst outcome is just if this turns into some stupid fight, and that's what we don't want is, as an example, let's say we make it so anti US nationalism in Europe is now associated with being on the left and against America, and this allows the left to win just enough elections for them to great replace their entire populations. A peroic victory, very much a peric victory if you're a europe nationalist. 00:38:55 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and so I think the question that a lot of people have is, right now we have access to the bases, so we do have some sort of military foothold there. We could build more potentially. I'm sure Denmark would be willing to negotiate it. Why push for full ownership. 00:39:12 Speaker 4: I think it's that independence question, that there's that lack of permanency to it. Anything that is not a truly permanent relationship can be changed. And there is that independence movement in Greenland, and once they're an independent actor, anything can happen. If you want an example of how these of how very long term arrangements can change Britain when they had Hong Kong in the south of China, they made a ninety nine year lease, and the story goes that they made it ninety nine years because permanent felt weird, and the guy thought, well, ninety nine years is basically permanent, right, ninety nine years was not permanent. It expired and they gave up Hong Kong to the People's Republic of China and a long term military base in Greenland that can change after one election in Deta or after one independence referendum in Greenland. Well said, and that is why President President Trump knows the value of permanency. It is a real interest here, and we also have to hope that Marco Rubio and the Vice President are able to make that strong pitch to the Danish government. 00:40:18 Speaker 3: Well, so far, indications are that it was a very positive meeting. So we're going to wait and see what those press statements indicate. Hopefully that they are positive. And listen, at some point, you have to give this to the Greenlanders themselves. There's fifty seven thousand of them. They probably are incentivized by a payday coming up if they link arms with the United States in a permanent fashion. 00:40:43 Speaker 11: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.