The Providential Nature of the 2020 Defeat

00:00:03 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. 00:00:31 Speaker 2: Go start at turning point. 00:00:32 Speaker 1: You would say college chapter. Go start at turning point, yould say high school chapter. 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You guys would basically do this interview every NFS sometimes Student Action Summit, and so thank you for making the time to sit down with us. 00:01:48 Speaker 3: The first time it really hit me that, I think I told you the first time it hit me that Charlie was gone was because you know, I came to Utah those days and I spent a couple of days with you guys. But the first time it hit me was when you two came up to do the transition on the show, which we always do at Amphis Live right. 00:02:09 Speaker 2: So yeah, we were texting about it the night before and you were the one who said, it's tradition, we have to do it. 00:02:15 Speaker 3: Well, Charlie, you guys start the show spring of twenty two. 00:02:19 Speaker 2: While on rav it was July twenty twenty two. 00:02:22 Speaker 3: July twenty twenty two, and you guys had the podcast. You'd had a show. 00:02:26 Speaker 2: We started it in May of twenty nineteen and we were just doing once a week. Actually, at first, Charlie didn't think it could fit much more into his schedule. And then COVID happened and he was like, let's do three times a week and I was like, okay, here we go. And then literally within one week of doing three shows in a week, he was like, okay, let's do five. Let's do five a week. We're gonna do five a week, and then it was like maybe more like ten. Eventually he was just starting just a content machine. He was stuck because of COVID. We couldn't do as much as we as we typically. 00:02:55 Speaker 3: Did, and he couldn't do no it was no college story anything. 00:02:58 Speaker 2: So yeah, so he was just like making my life miserable. 00:03:00 Speaker 1: It was. 00:03:00 Speaker 2: It was amazing. 00:03:01 Speaker 4: And then COVID went away and he wasn't kind of doing it always. 00:03:05 Speaker 3: Charlie was a he managed by you guys, figure it out right, figured it out. 00:03:09 Speaker 2: Pure chaos, pure insanity behind the scenes. You know. He picks people so that they can figure it out. He doesn't want to micromanage and just make it happen. 00:03:16 Speaker 3: But look at this what thirty one Amfest was always so big and so intense, right, student action soon's big, but it's got a different vibe to it. 00:03:24 Speaker 2: Right, younger crowd. It's mostly students, students. 00:03:27 Speaker 3: And in different breakout sessions amfest because you always have Vice President Prision United States, I mean, and the heaviest hitters you have in the political movement. But to know that you've got thirty one thousand and walking on this stage last night, when you look out there, just see, I mean, it's got to did you feel like twenty thousand. 00:03:44 Speaker 2: And you know, it's crazy that that room I think max is out at like eighteen something every week. Twenty one thousand in there for Trump last year on the Sunday, So he came as his members his first kind of event after winning the election. So flew all the way out to Phoenix. Trump does not like to go west that much. That the trip. 00:04:04 Speaker 3: He also doesn't overnight. 00:04:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, exactly, everything is a day trip exactly. So anyways, he came out for that twenty one thousand. I think that's the most we've ever fit inside the actual the main ballroom. So we're going to try and do something similar because there's there is thirty one thousand people. It's this event and I you know, I told people it's like, you know, somebody after Charlie died kind of thought, Oh, we should probably look at Amfest tickets to see where we're at. And instantly it was like, I think we should probably turn off ticketing, you know, quickly, and so. 00:04:34 Speaker 3: But we also the thirty one thousand, you still have another list who couldn't even get to cold. 00:04:38 Speaker 2: We could have doubled it. I mean, just to be perfectly clear, we could have sold sixty thousand. 00:04:42 Speaker 3: No, I remember this because we did. Charlie had come to us in August to make an early announcement. In fact, I asked Charlie, I said, are you guys going to have the stadium this year? He goes, no, no, no, the same place I go early says no, we just want to do it. So we did announce it like on August nineteenth or twentieth. And then by the time, because normal, we start selling in October and we always have a war room code so people get a special deal again. So by the time everything got organized to really do the things and get the code, I think we can Our team came in there and go, hey, it's actually sold out. Maybe we can fit some more people. 00:05:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Charlie was always you know, we have this inside joke. It's always like more more, you know, in all our group chats since Charlie's was killed, it's just more more. So. Turning off the ticketing for this event was actually pretty traumatic for us because you know, you got fire marshal stuff. I mean, you saw night one. It was people people were getting upset they couldn't get into the main ballroom space and it was just getting congested. I mean, there is a fire marshal for a reason. I mean, but there an overflows with the other time. Yeah, we have a bunch of overflow and basically all the media row boots are going to be having it up. VIP is having it up everywhere that you know, for JD especially, you know, guys like yourself. We want to make sure you can watch it in different various places if you can't get into the venue. But it's this is a good problem to have, and we're we're gonna we're gonna be creative with solutions in the future, certainly, but we've got some more surprises up our sleep so well, even for this event. 00:06:04 Speaker 3: The content is great and the breakout sessions are mad. When you look through that schedule, everything you guys put up, it's it's amazing. All and the breakout sessions, as you said, were Charlie's. That was Charlie's favorites, because that's not people talking on stage, that's actually getting things done. Yeah. 00:06:18 Speaker 2: I saw somebody on X saying like, well, it would be nice to have some normal people instead. All these like influencers up on STAPs were like, if you looked at the breakout sessions, if you looked at like everybody that's in the halls, I mean, okay, this is a populist movement, all right, you know it's I'll never forget. One time I ran into Stephen k Ban and at the this is some hotel. We were passing each other in South Florida and I was like, Steve, you're coming to the Galla of to Night and he goes, man, I'm a populist. I'm not going to that, don't. 00:06:47 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:06:47 Speaker 2: I was like, wait, no bow Tide, no Black Time view. I would love to see you come into uh a new event wearing your your customary get up at a black I just. 00:06:58 Speaker 3: I just I just cluoset. It wasn't total black Time event, but I just gave away Peter and Navar's bride at his wedding in mar Lago, and I had I had I had a nicer version of this, they wouldn't have felt comfortable. It was very sweet they you know, they got engaged I think where he was in prison. 00:07:17 Speaker 2: So yeah, this got I know, marine was your daughter was saying it was about time or something like that. Was good for good for Peter Steve. There's been a lot of chatter about some of the things that have been said. 00:07:30 Speaker 3: Has there been. 00:07:33 Speaker 2: I missed that little online chatter. It's mostly getting drowned up by either thing. 00:07:37 Speaker 3: No, no, but it's also mainstream media. I mean the New York Times, Washington Post picked up Thursday night obviously media, and they picked up last night myself and Meghan and up and Jack Right, So. 00:07:48 Speaker 2: It's what do you make of it? 00:07:51 Speaker 3: Here's what I make it. I think this is what I tried to say last night. And this is what part of the aspect. Maybe everybody didn't see a Charlie because people know Charlie from turning point in the Summits and you know, and Amfest and doing all the stuff and going to do the and doing you know, change my mind right all around proved me wrong. Yes, he couldn't change his mind. 00:08:17 Speaker 2: Different influencer, yeah, different, different controversial online influencers, the who's great by the the. 00:08:25 Speaker 3: But Charlie was also I mean in transition. Well, first off, just in the campaign, I mean, because of his judgment and understanding how things roll. He was one of the most senior advisors to the campaign and quite frankly, I think given uh the grassroots nature and the grint and the turnout which won everything, he was probably as influential as the campaign manager and other people because of knowing what to do. Then on the transition, Charlie Kirk, I mean he camped out in mar Lago. That's what you guys were doing this. 00:08:56 Speaker 2: Show seventy two hours after the election. He was on a plane tomorrow Lago. 00:09:02 Speaker 3: And I think they virtually the whole time. He might have come back a little. I think you guys were and having to juggle the show with the whata he was doing. He was I think one of the two or three key advisors to the president of personnel, of particularly vetting and who was Magan who had President Trump's back. Then when the administration started, Charlie spent you know, and people didn't really understand this. He spent so much time in the White House. In the White House, he's working on the Sergio Gore on personnel, also on doing the vetting, because remember the guy get three thousand people that are don't have to be confirmed in you got to hit the deck place front of the flood, the zone and days of thunder, also a thousand of the confirmation people all have to be vetted. Charlie was given senior advice, and Trump respects his advice, respects the way he thinks his judgment at thirty one years old. In addition, he's in big policy decisions. Why, because people respect Charlie's opinion. I mean he comes at it with a certain sense of gravitas. He's really and that shows you what's from eighteen to thirty one, those years really in political combat. He just he had a learning curve. Everything you guys did wasn't perfect at first, including when he first came to Breitbart, when you guys first did the big turnout thing in twenty two everything, But you're a learning organization. Your learning curve is like that, right, and it's just working effort and Charlie and on policy and so in these policy debates in the summer of twenty to twenty five, Charlie Kirk was one of the most important people. Because Charlie is also a networker. He knows how to bring people together, he knows how to get the best ideas out of him. And so I think of what a lot of what you see on the stage. And Andrew was a big first ament of free speech guy, and Charlie is too. I mean, it's nothing close to Charlie's heart than open debate. But this is just not about oh is this guy in or that guy in, or who's going to be you know, even Vivek last night and Schneider and expect both those guys, But they're talking about who's in who's out of People are going to decide that. It's not for us to decide. People are going to decide that. But it's something deeper. It's not just are they in or out or able to talk? It's what are they talking about? What are these big issues? And that's why I wanted to bring up one last night that Charlie was key on it. One of four or five that we have to get decided, I think relatively quickly, and that's basically who governs this country right? And I say this, I think from a position of strength because as someone that's actually been in the field running media companies and being a political activist, I don't think anybody out there has a record better than mine than defense of Israel. I am a Christian Zionist and I'm a Christian nationalist. Now I'm not a Christian Zionist like some people are, but I'm a Christian Zionist and a Christian nationalist. 00:11:51 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody. Balance of Nature's Whole Health System supplements are the perfect resolution for the new year. If you want to get in a better in your health journey, you need to check out Balance of Nature and their whole Health system. Bounce of Nature Whole Health System supplements are versatile. 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Balance of Nature dot Com fifty percent off for one year when you subscribed the Whole Health System Supplements as a preferred customer. Do it now. 00:13:12 Speaker 3: At Breitbart bar none at Breitbart. When I ran it, it was the biggest defender of isueal going. When I got to the White House, I was the lead on so many things were particularly trying to get the Muslim Brotherhood designated terrorist organization, of which I failed miserably. It was the hardest thing we did, and I get nowhere the government did the deep stay inside the government shut it down, but really trying to move the embassy to Jerusalem. I wanted to do a day one my whole plan for day one. It was, well, yeah, it was to have the present because I wanted a populist. I'm not a big gala guy. I wanted. What I recommended was you have the ceremony and we give the speech, and the things center around the speech. And in fact, we should take the podium about halfway through the speech and turn it and he would just talk to the deep state that's all sitting there in those things. Oh no, no, no, mel and I talked about it, could you. And then you have the camera view of President Trump with a million people in back of him, and he's his lecturing these guys. Right. Remember Bush said after the speech, that's some crazy, right, just in the speech, we're going to give it to him crazy. So we ruled that. But instead of having the big lunch in the Capitol while people are freezing, and President Trump is really loved the parades, just let's start the prey. Don't spend two hours with the people freezing. Let's just do the preyed immediately, get it done, go to the White House, everybody come by in the parade. President Trump would love it. Then he'd go in the Oval office. And the very first thing we would do is he would sign an executive order moving the embassy to Jerusalem, very first activist presidency, because it would be so historic. Then he would we do some more work. He would go back to the capital and address Congress, Paul Ryan, these guys, and he'd lay out his agenda for the first hundred days and saying, this is not why I'm proposing, this is what we're gonna do. And you guys better get some racks in here, because we're gonna say you're gonna stay around the clock for one hundred days until we do all this. 00:15:15 Speaker 2: That was Charlie was really big on making Congress work. 00:15:17 Speaker 3: Making Congress work, you go back and do it now. Obviously my plan was not chosen right that the best I did and I went. They had a few galas, so but it was fine. People wanted to celebrate and I thought it was great. President Trump and my plan would go to one ball, the Veterans ball, and he and the first lady would dance, and then she would dance with one of the veterans. 00:15:36 Speaker 4: But it's telling because the second inauguration is much closer to that. They didn't flip the podium around, but that stunt of being in the Oval office at the desk signing all of the executive orders, and he got to this, here's the reason. 00:15:50 Speaker 3: Here's the reason. In sixteen we had nothing. I mean we wanted to come from behind. I mean on the on the night before in the polling, we were still that was all turnout and people just coming out that people never realized low information, low preparency voters. The second time, we had four years that those years in the wilderness, and this is why I keep saying sixteen was providential. Twenty the Big Steel was providential because it gave us the four years of the precinct strategy of turning Point getting up to speed. Those four years I would say were the most valuable years of Charlie Kirk and Turning Point learning, learning using the twenty two not just midterms, but the Arizona races to learn more, to figure out what works and what done work, to continue to learn, and then twenty four have a machine that actually deliver places like Pennsylvania and Michigan and Arizona. We needed those years and that's why the shock and on Days of Thunder they had fifteen executive orders because it had been years in the making and that was what's so powerful about where we are? But it's all providential, the twenty four elections providential, and that's why you know we've got to grind on. 00:17:00 Speaker 2: Well, so you've got the bona fides as a pro Israel voice over many years. But last night you you you sounded a slightly different note. 00:17:10 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it's a different note. I think I think I'm actually a defender of Israel. You have these people that have made there's two concepts called Greater Israel. Right, Greater Israel is not Israel. Greater Israel is a geopolitical entity that takes part of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Sinai, all. 00:17:27 Speaker 2: The way in Egypt, West. 00:17:28 Speaker 3: Bank, all the way, all the that's tiny all I'm talking about all the way into Iraq and and has a defeat of the Persians as part of it. That's a grandiose plan. And there are people in Israel that are this is a real thing. 00:17:42 Speaker 2: Just so you just know this is as a real backing with. 00:17:45 Speaker 3: No this is nen Yahoo. Remember also, Israel's changing, and you should talk to your friends in Israel or Israel's changing radically. I believe under net Yahoo, who I think is just doing this for his own political survival. That I would say that is on the path to become a Jewish Pakistan, which is more a hardcore right ethno state. And I think you see this from who's leaving Israel and going to Portugal and going to Spain and going to Greece to live. On top of that, there is a portion of the media and people here that are Israel first. They just are. And the perfect example was this current war that we went through. Everything about that war was a lie. We know that for a fact now, the whole intensity of having to bomb in the nuclear facilities. He eventually Netnyahu had to give up the documents to his cabinet, everybody to go through it. And the Times of Israel said it was two years. As you know, it wasn't two weeks. It was two years. They started a war that they couldn't finish. They were getting pound at. President Trump saved Israel because remember at the very first, you know, we sent Egis cruisers into the Eastern Mediterranean with the air systems they have. We sent our Patriot missiles o the ad missiles twenty five percent. It was the US we were active in that war from the very first an active combatan in the war. Now on the offensive part, it wasn't just the B twos taking out taking out the caves. I was in the North Arabian Sea in nineteen eighty as a young naval officer on a destroyer. The carry battle groups after the hostages were taken. They're same that we still have essentially a carry battle group or submarines there today. It was the submarines, I think they were fast attack submarines that launched thirty cruise missiles which is a technology from the nineteen seventies, that took out all the surface facilities that the Israeli Air Force couldn't take out. And President Trump then called it twelve day War. The whole initial part of the when Fox was going crazy, how much they were winning, how much they were winning on the previous Friday, was a decapitation against the regimes had because they wanted regime change and that would require combat troops, at least commandos. Charlie Kirk understood, as all of us understood, that's not the defense of Israel, that's the expansion of this greater Israel, and we can't do it as a country. We spent nine trillion dollars in the Middle East. We've lost ten thousand troops killed in action, right, another fifty thousand casualties, another five to ten thousand contractors, so and nine trillon dollars. And the country is just not there. 00:20:19 Speaker 2: In the carnage, in the in the personal lives and personal. 00:20:22 Speaker 3: And and what's happened in the yes, the PTSD, the suicides, plus what's happened to the country. My recommendation, and Laura Lumer and Rabbi you know, Rabbi Wicky is very close to NFES. He's got a media thing here today's obviously on observation. They're of the opinion I am that Israel has got to become sovereign and it's it doesn't need our five billion, right. They just had they sold they sold a ten billion dollars of arms to Germany the other day. I mean, they're very sophisticated defense industry, and I think that would take off the burden because there's going to be more constraints. And here's why I've always fought, always fought the two state solution. I've always thought that is would just be contiguous. And now we have a two state solution. You have a two stations in the Wall Street journalist wanting the lead story has this like it's like the Jetsons. It's this picture of the city of the future. It's got it's all this stuff, you know, people on airpacs flying around. It's Gaza. It's a print of a present from a presentation that Jared and Witkoff just made to some financiers. I think it's three hundred or four hundred bion dollars to rebuild Gaza into a Mediterranean you know, resort, but state of the art. And in that a sixty billion dollar commitment of the United States for deafinancing. It's just not going to happen. You know. They've They've got now Qatar, and I'm the most anti quitar guy in the world. In Qatar, you should understand, has put a lot of money into Washington, d C. To change the opinion on Qatar. Qatar is the financier of the Muslim Brotherhood, full stop, and the Muslim brotherhoo is an absolute enemy to the Christian West, to our Jewish Judeo Christian civilization, and particularly to the United States of America Turkey. Second, So when President Trump even in signing the designation of terrorism. They want to do a study in Jordan, they want to do a study in Syria, and they want to do a study in someplace else, leaving off Katar and Turkey, which the centerpiece. So I think that has to go. So you've now created a to you have a proto two state solution. In Gaza, you're going to have two point two million Palestinians. You can have fully financed bike cutter except for the money they're going to look from us. But you're talking hundreds of billions of dollars in Turkey, right who we drove out, you know, Lawrence of Arabian, the British army in the West, drove out of the Ottoman Empire, drove them out nineteen seventeen. We're basically inviting the Turks back in, who controlled the two Holy sites in Jerusalem. I think for a half a millennia, we're inviting them back in as the military. And so when I look at Ben and I look at Levin, I said, you guys created this. This was total overreach. And now you have a two state solution and President Trump, let's be honest. They met yesterday in Miami to negotiate Qatar, Egypt, and Turkey with Jared and with Coffin, they're they're what they're negotiating is both Israel and Hamas of both slow walking trading in arms. And the reason is both I think realized that Yahun Jumas that once once they get to the conclusion of phase one, they're kind of out right, it changes over. To me, that's catastrophic, but that's what they brought on. This is why I'm an advocate and a strong advocate of a Christian state. If you're going to have two states, if you're going to have Israel and you're going to have part of Israel is going to be the beginning of a Palestinian state, which will be Gaza with the Turks and cutter to me, you got to take the Christian quarter of Jerusalem with Bethlehem and we start there. We should have our own because I think if you don't get a Christian state in Israel and get people feeling they have, you know, ownership of the Holy Land or some obligation as Christians, I'm not so sure Israel as we know it today exists in twenty or thirty years. And that's brought on not by people who are the defenders of Israel. That's brought on by people that bought into this kind of imperial Israel expansion is Israel that was backed by what I call the Israel First crowd, and that Charlie Kirk, you know, people say, well, all this stuff, you know, Nick Feuventez and stuff like that. 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And so that's why last night I thought it was important to also let me be blunt. I've known Ben Shapiro a long time, right, I just know him a long time. 00:26:21 Speaker 2: And should you get this one into mic he Oh, but he's just. 00:26:26 Speaker 3: Look listen. In the particularly in the year fifteen, after Andrew died and I took over Bright part, we did have a slight change in editorial policy. It became more America first, it became more populous. It definitely became more nationalists. If Andrew had been alive during that time of those transitioner years, he'd have been right with us. His inclinations were to do that. Andrew was the central figure of the Tea Party. The Tea Party was kind of the beginning of that. We didn't really have it formulated right, and we had huge election wins. Remember we won sixty three House seats in twenty ten. Sixty three House seats. Now, most of those members pretty quickly flipped into the Republican establishment, but at least it showed you there was a thirst out there and appetite for peace, graciers that want to change, and won a pretty fundamental change. So in fifteen and sixteen, when Trump came along, you know, Matt ball Tony Lee and I was running it, and he had Joe Pollock and Alex Marlow. You know, all these people today who are very junior at the time. And you know, Ben hated Trump and he was open about that, and I didn't have a problem with that. I don't have a problem with other voices talking. He were never part of the company but a contractor as an editor. And then you had this incident in mar Lago, which was a very marginal incident with Corey Lewandowski in a stringer that we had hired. You know, he shoved her arm or hand or something like that. It was very confused. 00:27:54 Speaker 4: Believe the testimony was he grabbed her, he suplexed her exactly. 00:27:58 Speaker 3: Everywhere, everywhere, because it was right before it was right before Super Tuesday, and they wanted Trump. These guys were adamant they had to do something to chop block Trump, and I just wasn't going to stand for it. So the story goes he either quit or I fired him, and there's probably a two minute gap between both of those happening, and he said Bannon's turn. Breit Bart entered Trump Pravda and Megan Kelly, I know she told the story last night when she asked those questions, which we would think would be pretty innocuous today. In the first debate on Fox, of course, we went to high dungeon. Oh this is awful, and I unleashed the dogs and to the fact that you know, she had to get security, and Roger els Comia says, you've got to back off. I go, no, we don't back off. We have one. We have full all ahead flank. Because it was Trump that they were trying to take out Trump, the Bush faction. You know, Fox is very pro Bush to take him out. And I said, We're not going to do it. And that's stabilized and Breitbart was his most powerful media thing. 00:28:55 Speaker 5: In fact, later Harvard a year after the election, Harvard did a study on all media in the twenty sixteen election because they hadn't figured out how they won, and they realized that with the Pepe's and. 00:29:07 Speaker 2: You know, we had meme wars, the memoars. 00:29:09 Speaker 3: It was the mem wars because Trump really had no money and had no organization. So you had the Mike Cernovich, like Mike Cernovich is the memoirs. The Pepe's were all in social media. And Hillary Clinton gave an interview about two months ago. She said Bannon and those influences at the time before influencers were a thing over and she had a huge operation. We just ran circles around them because it was self organizing and people just you know, intense Trump And they said later that the most the most important media outlet by an order of magnitude, was not the New York Times, or not the Washington Post or not The Nation or MSNBC, was Breitbart for Trump. And I'm very proud of that is why I was selected to come into the campaign because we were doing such a judge. I knew nothing about it, only had one hundred days ago and he's down on ten points. I didn't know anything about campaigns. I'd never been into a campaign office of my life. But we specialized in taking down Hillary Clinton, right, and so that was our We we we had just done Peter Schweizer's book, which I worked on with Peter, and Peter did the research and wrote everything. Clinton Cash had come out a year before, and Bernie Brows were looking for a place to go, so we put a movie up. We made a movie called Clinton Cash, or's just like a video, but it got like fourteen million views because put up for free a lot of the Bernie Broughs because Remember, if you just get people to stay home, that's a vote. If you actually get him to come and vote for you, that's two votes. And all we wanted was those kind of Bernie Bros, disaffected Democrats and union Democrats and independents who leaned working class of populas who weren't prepared to vote for a Republican just to stay home, and so we did that. My point is that then Ben made a big deal about not voting for Trump in sixteen. You know this is he was all over things, and so I just don't I don't buy it. It's just that they're pushing another agenda, and that agenda failed, and not just that it failed. I kept warning them all the time on the show and behind the scenes, this is going to fail, and the damage you're going to do to Israel is incalculable. And now we have it, and now we have a two state for people that were adamantly against a two state solution. Just to look at the Wall Street Journal today, they're going to build a city of the future there with three hundred billion dollars of Cutteriaze money and other money from the Golf Emirates and from Saudi Arabia with a security force led by the Turks that have Egyptians and Saudi troops on that strip in Israel. So they brought it on themselves. And so I agree with Lumer. I think Israel ought to get their total sovereignty, and they're and their total independence, like today in Syria, will leaking. And these and the hardcore guys that kind of have a vision, they're not for what we're doing in Syria because the Syrian situation with the Isis guy is really that's a Turkish proxy, that's Ertawan's expansion program. And so when we're up there siding with them, a lot of the Israelis saying, well hang on, that's not helping us and not helping the Drews. So I think they need their total full independence and and and they'll take care of themselves. They'll they'll get on with it without constraints. 00:32:11 Speaker 2: In I states, one of the most common I think they want us to go with Q and A. We've been going for quick. 00:32:18 Speaker 3: Did did I dominate the microphone pain for us? 00:32:24 Speaker 2: So let me ask one last question here though. One of the most common critiques that I've heard, even just walking the floor of people talk to me about Israel. But before that as well, is there's a feeling that from the pro Israel side or the you know, even if they are Israelis, but you know, it could be Mark Levan, it could be whatever that they want to get as much out of Trump out of these next three years, and it's a feeling like they're trying to maximize everything they can, even if it's going to torpedo the administration. Is that a concern that you have. 00:32:55 Speaker 3: I don't think there's any doubt. I think this is my complaint. I went back. You know, I try to how to say this, not bug the president by calling you on every topic, et cetera. When we talk. We talked for a length of time and I go see him very very rarely, but when I do, it's something important. And so people had asked me to come back, and I went back two days before the bombing, and we'd spent I don't like three or four hours and with President Trump, one thing I will tell you, he is the out of my experience at Goldman Sachs. Of the Goldman Sachs you're there to work with CEOs and chairman right, he is one of the best listeners when you're in a meeting with him, he's not like talking all the time. He wants to hear what you have to say, competing ideas. He asked questions, and he takes it on board. So we spent a lot of time that day. And when I got there, who was there working? Who was in the I got to the west I got to the West wing a couple hours early. The person set up the meeting the lunch had asked me to come a couple hours early. And I walked and who's sitting right there? Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk had been there on and off for two weeks. Right, you guys had to juggle all this stuff. And when Charlie was back at the White House, Charlie's working twelve and fourteen hour days, and part of it was still vetting and helping people to vet, but a lot of it was working on ideas that he felt the administration had to capture on this one. When I got there, we've been talking and he had a very definitive plan on this very topic. I mean, this was about because of the thing, and he was adamant, like I was, we could not allow ourselves to be pulled in to a regime change war. Also about regime change. You know this from our work on the CCP, which you guys have been part of. I don't believe you can do regime change from the top. You can't go into decapitation. We can't just go in and take out the Chinese Companies Party. We just can't go out and take out the Mulas. We can't. I'm not a big believer you just can go and take Madua out. Other people have different theories. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. But you saw this in Vietnam when you know, we were in, had a big commitment, and all a sudden it wasn't working out for us. It wasn't going what do we do? The CIA assassinated DM and then what happened a complete disaster for their country and our country. Change has to come from the bottom. I'm all for cutting off all the oil, not allowing any of the mula's oils to go to the Chinese Country's Party, to cut them off, and so then you get revolutionary change, a decapitation right strike that then would lead to some civil internally. We're going to get pulled into that, and that's a ten or twenty year process with a ton of American cash troops. But more importantly a time, it's opportunity costs. We have so many problems here that we have to solve. We don't have the ability to get the public's attention. But more just the work of people there, because they're working sixteen eighteen hour days anyway, they need all that energy to solve your rank order things. And Charlie was a huge believer in this, and so no, I would say that there's no doubt that they're trying. 00:36:01 Speaker 2: That was the biggest one chance. They're trying to take the logic. 00:36:05 Speaker 3: But but President Trump, here's the beauty of President Trump. He really thought through how to end it. Remember, not till he ended. He came out and named it was a twelve day war. When President Trump puts a brand on it, the brand sticks, Okay, it ain't a thirteen day wars. There gonna be thirty day war. And he was adamant. And then when net Yahoo because remember net Ya who decapitated the team that wick Off is negotiating with the Iranians on that first night. And then when when Netnya who tried to go and decapitate the team negotiating for Hamas and Qatar, it crossed the line with Trump. Ever since then, Just Reality Israel has been kind of a site showing this. It's all been working the thing. And now now we found out last night in North Carolina there is no meeting scheduled over Christmas with Netanyahu. It's something he's thinking about in the press. Is I'm gonna get it on the books. But this is how it's kind of gone. It's a signal. And so for those for listen, they're adamant it's gonna be their way. They're not going to back off this Greater Israel project. They're not going to back off Israel. First, you're gonna have, you know, we're gonna have all kinds of things. So that's fine, but we have to be adamant it's done. You guys brought it on. I don't like it. I don't agree with it, but there's a Palestinian state gonna be set up with Cutter and Turkey. That's gonna happen, and we have to figure out how to work around that. And so no, I think there's gonna be And I think if you walk around here and just talk to people, you'll get to feel that certain forces are trying to get the most out of it in the time, and we have to be ever vigilant to make sure. Yeah. And it's also about the access to the president to information. That's one of the great things about that. 00:37:39 Speaker 2: This is a huge, untold part of the Trump adamin Trump to. 00:37:43 Speaker 3: Well you know who you know who knew that better than anybody, Charlie Kirk. Listen, you have an operation that could put on a thirty one, that could double the size of already the most important conference in all the world for conservatives. And you double the size of that in a couple of weeks. Given the track you guys had and the work you have to do to keep the show going at the level and Erica everything on her plate, and you can do it. And Charlie built that organization, had all that was starting to did the college stour in the spring and start another one? Like I told Charlie said, dude, do you need another college store in the fall. You're doing so much. And when he's back in the White House, it's not just for getting people on board, it's the exact thing. It's making sure. When I said he's a networker, Charlie was always making sure that the right people at the right time, with Sergio were getting from the president that lunch. They had tried to schedule that lunch for months and I just wasn't in DC that much. And it was Sergia that came to me and Charlie was working there the week before and said, hey, we need you here on Thursday. It's blocked out, and I go, okay, this are the things that the shooting started. Says it's Thursday at noon, but come or come right for the show at noon and we'll get you in there at one o one thirty and we'll be here. Because Charlie was working with Sergio to make sure the president was getting a broader access. And another person works too is the Vice president. The Vice President's team, Serabian, and those guys constantly trying to get more voices in front of the President. And so I think that that is a thing we have to fight going forward. 00:39:11 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:39:13 Speaker 6: This is Lane Schoenberger, chief investment Officer and founding partner of y REFI. It has been an honor and a privilege to partner with Turning Point and for Charlie to endorse us his endorsement means the world to us, and we look forward to continuing our partnership with Turning Point for years to come. Now hear Charlie in his own words, tell you about why Refy. 00:39:33 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you guys about whyrefight dot com. That is why are ef y dot com. Why refi is incredible? Private student loan net in America told us about three hundred billion dollars. 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Leaving out the nasty, snarky part in which you know me, I gotta go there. Charlie was very classy. 00:40:39 Speaker 2: I got I'm gonna tell this story about when we start the when we started the handoff, and I go, so you're gonna mention it. 00:40:47 Speaker 7: Wow, I'm mister Bannon. My name is My dad loves your show. We watch you every day. 00:40:54 Speaker 3: So somebody your your dad's a man of discernment. 00:40:58 Speaker 7: So somebody who was born in two thousand and three. I was a day old when Mosama bin Latin was killed. It feels like my entire life it's been this confusing mess of endless wars in the Middle East. Other than as a Christian, I do want to protect our holy sites. Why does it feel like even in the conservative movement, we're constantly being dragged into all of these conflicts, rather than focusing on all of our problems here and worrying about the midterms and putting America and American citizens first. 00:41:24 Speaker 3: So a great question. It's a great question from the mouth of Babes. One of the issues, one of the biggest issues, and it seems like is that so many of the problems that we have failed to solve are gotten dragged into, have blown back and have come here now. I mean, the central issue we have today is who actually runs the country right, who makes the decisions, who actually empowers the chief executive to make And this is why the big focus on his Article two powers. What are those powers? You watch a show We've been adamant about that. That was one of the things in the years in the Wilderness that russ Vote and guys came up with that we got to maximize the Article two powers of the chief executive because that's ways to get things done, particularly in crisis. You still have a network, this kind of globalist system that people make an awful lot of money and have an awful lot of power, and having the United States is the kind of the security guarantee around the world. If you look at just take the Eurasian landmass quickly, you look from Europe to the to the Golf and the Golf Emirates, the Middle East, around to the South China Sea and then up to Japan and Korea. Those four big nodes are the basic trading parties of the United States. We have trading relationships, commercial relationships, capital markets. But it's also an American security guarantee. We have NATO, we're in the Middle East, and this is why we have a one point three and two treeion dollars, you know, defense budget. Now, those trade deals are upside down because we've shipped all the jobs. It's worked to the detriment of the American people, the middle class and working class. But the elites have made a tremendous amount of money in this system, and they continue to make a tremendous amount of money in the system, and they're going to continue that until we actually take power away from them. And that's one of the reasons I fight. So they always want to focus on everywhere else, and quite frankly, they don't care. They just don't. They don't care about the American worker, they don't care about the American family. And you can tell this by their policies of immigration. They're always trying to whether it's whether it's massive illegal immigration from Mexico and from Latin America to drive down the wages of African Americans and Hispanic American citizens at the lower end are flooding the zone with these bogus H one B visa and all these visa programs so that kids coming out of college have to compete against the world here in the United States and drive their wages down fifty percent. So the problems that we have been involved in the world have kind of come back to us now. One of the biggest problems we have here today is that we've looked the other way for years on this Marxist Jihades coalition and this red Green coalition that people like Frank Gaffney and Trevor Laud and others have been warning people about for twenty or thirty years is now reality. You see that in New York City with the new elected mayor. You see that in Chicago where they forced out Ice. You see it in LA You're seeing these sanctuary cities. They're basically independent, and we have fifteen or twenty million illegal aliens here and they're not about to be deported. In fact, they're going to do everything to stop that. That's the forces and now this is why we're making such a big deal about Texas. In Texas, and we had on the show today in the audience one of the women fighting this in the United Kingdom, because people in the United Kingdom will tell you. In England and in France, they're five or ten years away from a civil war. Right, They've allowed it to go on so long, and so we have to nip in the butt. We've allowed it to get out of control. In Dearborn, Michigan, it's going to be very tough to deal with Minnesota. In Minnesota look into Samians. But in Texas, it's just beginning. They're building two mosque a month. And here's Harris County and Arrant County are the two county. They realize if they can take over Arrant County and Harris County, they flip Texas. And if they flip Texas, we can never win again. So that's why I just announced some more January ninth, because this is how we play at the war room. We're bringing We're bringing Girt Wilders, the hardest core anti Islamist in Europe the Netherlands, a guy that has been hardcore. We're bringing him to Plano, Texas on the ninth, and we're throwing down hard. We're having him as a speaker, They're gonna go crazy. Look the message of Charlie Kirk and his work, if you cut through everything, is that Charlie. And this is why I said last night, he's a Christian martyr and therefore a Christian saint, even more than an American patriot. He understood that the country's gone through a de christianization process over the last sixty seventy eighty years, in that the purpose of power is not power for power's sake. The purpose for power is the re Christianization of our institutions. And that is the work that is the task for us at hand. And so I think that, and I think we can not just think. I know we can do it. We've won seven of the last eight. They will never tell you that since since twenty fifteen, when Trump really came on the scene, there have been eight national elections, either primaries off your elections, which is a national election for congress or presidential elections. We've had eight. We've won seven, Okay, And I'm telling you it's very doable for us to win this year. And here's why I believe the bets we made on the economy are going to stop paying off and that's when it's going to get ugly. When they can't fall back on affordability or playing by the rules in some economic argument, it's going to get Charlie Kirk type of nasty the way they treated him everywhere he went. So we just have to hunker down. Understand, we had one of the greatest leaders. I think if you look at history that Charlie is as close to the Revolutionary generation we had many of the stars of the Revolutionary General we're in their twenties, late early twenties to maybe early thirties. Charlie Kirk has had more impact on our country for his age than anybody really from the Revolutionary generation. So you guys have here, right, So you know, we have to pick up the mantle. It's a you know, cry havoc and unleash the dogs of information war. So Well's said, great question. 00:47:33 Speaker 2: I'm mister Bannon. My name is Cole. 00:47:34 Speaker 3: I am a high school senior, and I plan to ship out for Marine Corps boot camp this summer. Amen, Thank you. I was wondering what your advice would be to find political and just general success following military service. 00:47:49 Speaker 2: Thank you. 00:47:49 Speaker 3: What I would do. You're making the every time I talk to audiences, I say do this. I served eight years in It's just just go out. The first thing you should do is either a list or if you're in college, go be an officer in the military. And here's why. The most formative decade of your life is your twenties. It's one of the reasons of the crisis we have today because we are taking away opportunities from people in this late family formation, late home ownership, and even learning as an apprentice, as an artisan a profession. In your twenties, the best thing you can do is in the military. Don't worry about your political future going forward. Just hit it every day. Take as many tough assignments as travel the world. If you've got an assignment that takes your overseas, take it. If you've got something that's particularly hazardous, taken that building of your character is everything in that decade, and you're going to a place that is one of the finest institution. Remember two hundred fifty years is like the Royal Navy. Why is the Marine Corps so special? Because the Marine Corps is going to strip you down of all your false ego and get back to the core of your character. And it's a tough process, but they're going to build back up through daily actions and daily you're holding yourself accountable and working as a team. Remember in the war room, when somebody comes to work for me, I make them watch a film called twelve o'clock High. It's about the eighth Air Corps in the first days of World War Two, about in situations like this, it's all about working together as a team, right, as imperfect as you are in the sacrifices that have to come with that, because working as a team means supplemating some natural human tendencies. The Marine Corps is the perfect institution. You know, as a naval officer, we're pretty good, and the Army's pretty good, but the Marine Corps has perfected taking basic American citizens, young kids and turning them into something that's very special and very lethal. So don't worry about your career going forward. Maximize every day you're in the Corps and you'll turn that fine. 00:49:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, Steve Band and everyone, Yes, thank you, Steve. 00:50:02 Speaker 3: Thank you guys. By the way, I'm so proud of what you guys have accomplished, and all the grief you've gotten and all the hate you've gotten. It is amazing this conference. Look at the energy, look at the kids. Wear in good hands. 00:50:13 Speaker 2: Amen, Thank you, Steve. 00:50:24 Speaker 6: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com