The Democrat establishment is in a total panic about the explosion in support for far-left socialists. Mark Halperin breaks down what it means, and the team asks: Is this an opportunity for Republicans, a huge danger, or both? Rep. Andy Ogles delivers a plan for keeping anchor babies out of America after the birthright citizenship ruling, and the show reveals its plans for next week's major hearing in the Tyler Robinson case.
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Speaker 4: All right, welcome to the show. It is July second. We are just days away from two fifty, so I figured i'd bring the USA shirt out and celebrate, just as in my own way, Blake.
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Speaker 3: So how we doing.
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Speaker 5: We're doing splendid.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're here at the y REFI Studios.
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Speaker 4: I'm back in studio, honored to be with you all, very very excited. I wanted to take a few moments this morning because actually tomorrow is going to be a travel day. We've pre recorded an amazing interview with doctor Larry arn who gave us a whole hour, and we've got some other patriotic content for you tomorrow. So it's to be our last live show before the weekend and all the festivities. And I want to just address what's gonna happen next week, because there's a huge, huge event that's happening next week that's obviously near and dear to us, and it's gonna be very difficult in many ways. And that is, of course, the preliminary hearing in the case of the State versus Tyler Robinson. It's gonna be taking place in Provo, Utah July sixth, through the tenth. As I said, it's gonna be very difficult, extremely difficult, but an important week. And that's gonna be for all of us in the extended Turning Point family, and especially Erica and Charlie's parents. And you know they're gonna be in my prayers a lot next week, and I know you as well, Blake, and so it's gonna be difficult because they are going to be in the actual courthouse, and that's gonna be difficult. I mean, I am not going to be there, Blake, and I will be running a special episode streaming. We're gonna be streaming the entire preliminary hearing and then after it concludes at the end of the day, we are going to be bringing experts, people that were on the ground in provo, and we're going to be breaking that down, the big evidence that's revealed, the big news that's made, whatever is it critically important to what happens that day. We feel it's incumbent upon us to be a source of truth and just honesty about how it's reporting, because there's gonna be a lot of a lot of news, okay, and there's gonna be a lot of people taking it and doing what they will with it. We want to be at a place where you guys can come to trust what's going to happen, and we're going to bring in really, really smart people that know how this process works. I don't know if you want to chime.
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Speaker 5: In, Well, it's just we want to be clear.
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Speaker 6: We're making it sound like it as the trial, and honestly to us, it sometimes feels like that it is not the trial. Is not that this is only a preliminary hearing where they essentially.
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Speaker 5: Show probable cause for charging Tyler Robinson.
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Speaker 4: So let's go into that this is not the trial. This is the pre trial judicial proceeding. Okay, there will be no jury and the sole purpose of the hearing is to determine whether the prosecutors have gathered enough evidence for the case to move forward to a trial.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So there's different rules. We'll get in all that next next week. You can allow hearsay, et cetera, et cetera.
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Speaker 4: But the hearing is expected, like I said, to last most of the week. It will include witness testimony, evidence presented by the prosecutors, and cross examination by the defense. As I said before, Charlie's parents and Eric will be there together throughout the proceedings. They're not attending as public figures. They're attending is grieving loved ones to witness the process of justice unfold. So I hope this probably is more of a hope and a prayer than anything else, that the media and social media pay them the respect that they deserve. So this hearing, by the way, was originally scheduled for the end of May. Yes we were all gearing up for it, but based on somemotions made by the defense, it got pushed to next week July sixth, or incredibly busy part of the schedule for all of We've got stuff going on in DC this weekend, and then we've got cls Our Chapter Leadership Summit happening also on the East Coast next week.
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Speaker 3: So there's a lot going on.
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Speaker 4: And I feel just terrible for ericause she's got a fly back and forth all over the place. But this is what the court decided, and so we're sort of bound by the schedule.
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Speaker 3: That's court.
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Speaker 5: It's what we have to live by.
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Speaker 6: Charlie's example, and Charlie was a man who was always ready to go wherever was needed, and we need to be we need to be there for him and for his family, and so we want all of you to know this is a place you can turn to for everything that's happening in the case next week and in the months to come as it continues.
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Speaker 4: And there'll be representing their full extended families on both sides. So it'll be some other friends and a few other family members, but they're going to be there representing the family on both sides. And you know me personally, I'm glad I get to be in here with you. Goes out to everybody that has to be in that courtroom because I don't want to breathe the same errors as that person. So anyways, that's kind of what's going on. And then after that, we've got CLS. Blake and I will be also traveling back to do CLS. It's our Chapter Leadership Summit, which is gonna be remarkable this year, and I just want to give so much praise to the team. They've been doing so much hard work behind the scenes.
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Speaker 3: We're gonna have more.
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Speaker 4: Than two thousand student leaders from across the country gathered together for multiple days of training. There's gonna be a bunch of big speakers. This is not like one of our big conventions where you guys can get tickets. This is just for students and equipping activism training. You know, we've got over five thousand chapters official official chapters. I think we've got a presence on nearly six thousand campuses across the country, but official chapters. We have five thousand chapters, over fifteen hundred college chapters now and more than thirty five hundred Club America High school chapters across the summit or across the country.
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Speaker 3: So this is gonna be a huge, huge deal. So Eric will.
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Speaker 4: Actually get there late because of the scheduling of this preliminary hearing, But when she gets there, you know she's gonna give her full heart and attention to those students because ultimately, that's what Charlie would have wanted. And God bless her for that, because I can't imagine just the emotional whiplash that that would entail, going from something so dark and terrible and then having to immediately juxtapose that with having to address, you know, two thousand students. But that ultimately is the core of what Charlie's legacy and mission was about, was about the students, And so God bless her for that. So it's gonna be a gonna be quite the weak, but please know that we are going to be streaming the preliminary hearing here.
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Speaker 3: We'll take the show, we'll do the show live.
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Speaker 4: If we have to throw to an important part of that hearing, we will, But obviously there's still gonna be news the day that we're gonna have to cover intermixed with that, so it's gonna be a bit of a dance, so bear bear with us as we do that, but we want to give a lot of attention to that. When the show wraps, will continue streaming it so you can get that on all of our social channels, rumble x, all the above. I think we should probably even do YouTube next week. But anyway, so we're gonna do that and then uh, it should wrap around five Utah time, so that would be seven Eastern and at that point we'll probably take about a thirty minute break, gather ourselves, and then we'll do a special probably one hour episode every day. So if you were subscribed to the podcast, you can get our updates there, our show there, and then we'll be streaming it live as well. We might work with real America's voice to see if they can take it as well. So we just want to be very clear about the logistics next week.
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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a very full week.
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Speaker 4: It's gonna be very challenging for us, but we feel it's incumbent on us to do it. Do this and step into this breach, step into the gap, because there's if you If you don't, there's gonna be a void of fake news and disinformation, and so we want to do that for you and provide that resource. Any final thoughts play.
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Speaker 6: We encourage all of you to join us. We know this is going to be a long journey, a difficult journey. It's when we wish had started a lot earlier. This hearing was delayed. Honestly, I think even multiple times. I don't know that May was the original data either it was April and May. It's been pushed and pushed, but we are committed to seeing this whole process through because it's our solemn obligation and we aim to fulfill it.
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Speaker 3: Okay, and I I kind of wish.
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Speaker 6: The Democrats would have an internal panic over why do we keep pardoning child rathe America.
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Speaker 3: Well, first we have to get to this story.
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Speaker 4: It was an internal wrestle going on in my mind whether or not we should get to it. I'm just gonna let Harris Faulkner do it. I usually don't do this type of thing, but it's a good summary and it'll get us there quicker.
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Speaker 3: I think Top twenty two.
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Speaker 7: Sanctuary state Minnesota is back in the spotlight today. The Trump administration is accusing the governor, Tim Wallas remembered he wanted to be the vice president of Kamala Harris that didn't work out. They're accusing him of helping protect an illegal immigrant convicted of repeatedly sexually assaulting a ten year old child, the little sister of his wife. Homeland Security says that man lost his legal status to be here after his conviction and faced a final order of deportation. He's a bad guy. Now the Minnesota Board of Parts has granted him clemency.
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Speaker 4: Ah so, Bord of Pardons. We actually even have this, this letter from the Minnesota Clemency Review Commission, which is crazy. Re pardon granted, dear Touvang Tao Wang. The Minnesota Bord of Pardons voted to grant your pardon at its meeting on June tenth, twenty twenty six. Congratulations, exclamation mark. We will send an official pardon certificate to you in the coming weeks. This guy raped a little girl, sexually assaulted a repeatedly, and they're pardoning him so he doesn't get deported. Do I have my facts straight?
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Speaker 5: I think you do.
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Speaker 6: I think uh, this speaks for itself. I let's just cut through the cut through the crap here. This almost certainly was specifically done or almost certainly was deliberately done because this man faces deportation, and they will say we should focus on the worst of the worst, or we need immigration because it in riches America. The left does not believe this. The left actively loves the idea of keeping someone who raped a ten year old.
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Speaker 5: That is his crime. He raped a ten year old child, not groaped.
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Speaker 6: Literally raped a ten year old, and they are giving him a pardon. The New York Times headline literally notes that he's expressed remorse.
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Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, why.
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Speaker 3: Doesn't he express remorse where he's from.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe you could say, oh, I should express remorse by giving up this amazing thing that I was given, which is the chance to live in America.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is amazing.
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Speaker 4: So basically what you're seeing happen is you'll see Democrat leaders in these sanctuary states and jurisdictions basically see notice of deportation. Whatever the hell he did wrong, I don't care. We're going to pardon him so that he is no longer on the you know, deportation list.
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Speaker 6: We have a term for this, comes from other countries. It's called two tier justice. Because if there's something, if they're going to go out of their way to give pardons and lower punishments, which they already do as well two immigrants to make sure they're not deported, but they'll give a full punishment to you, you have a two tier system of justice.
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Speaker 5: And they've done this in other ways.
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Speaker 6: In California, they change some of their laws to change the penalty from one year in jail to one year in jail minus a day, because a lot of the time a year in jail is enough to trigger automatically getting deported. They've at every step of the way, the Left has made it clear they want criminals to come to America. They want criminals who are caught to stay in America, and they will change laws, give out pardons, and remove every barrier they can to make sure criminals, including rapists who rape ten year olds, stay in the country.
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Speaker 4: This is a political patronage of a different sword, right, It's not necessarily handing out goodies. But this is a pretty good goodie actually, where he gets complete clemency for raping a ten year old. Can we say it enough times? And then you think of Sheridan Gorman's mom, who literally went before Congress tears in her eyes. Her daughter was obviously killed by a twenty six year old illegal Venez Whalen that shouldn't have been in the country, that had priors, by the way, and that was in Chicago.
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Speaker 3: But she's tears in her eyes, going choose us, to choose us? And what do they choose? They choose some foreigner named Talvong who raped a ten year olds who they choose.
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Speaker 6: The only thing they regret is that Talbong didn't kill an American citizen.
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Speaker 5: That's the only thing they regret.
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Speaker 6: I don't know if they yeah, that's the only thing they regret because they don't mind that he raped a child.
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Speaker 5: They want to make sure that this criminal remains in America.
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Speaker 6: You have to cut through all the bogus stuff on this for that's why they do it. They do this because they know foreign immigrant criminals will hurt America, but they will further the transformation of America.
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Speaker 5: That's the objective.
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Speaker 6: And I just think every single Democrat, it doesn't matter what state they're in, they should just be Yeah, your vice presidential candidate from the most recent election pardoned a child rapist. Why did Why did you? What do you feel about that? Why does it feels like there's a pattern with your party? Because and they should they should line up with other examples where there's this is not the first pardon like this, this is not the first case, and they should just say, Okay, here's your history of pardons, here's your history of changing the law. Don't Americans have a right to feel a little wary about this? You guys say you're running against the Epstein class. Okay, President Trump put Epstein in jail where he then killed himself. And you guys are making sure that a rapist stays in America a child.
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Speaker 4: But it's a totally fair point. And we see this with the kids that were smuggled across the humane border of Joe Biden and the Democrats. They got a lot of them got sexually assaulted in the country. So you're talking about the pedo class. Who's the open borders and letting insane people into your country and then pardoning them when they are proven criminals. This guy pleaded guilty. That's the pedo class. It's infuriating. But we know the Democrat Party is getting more and more radical, Okay, we know it, and we see this now happening with the abolish ice crowd, the abolish the police, the abolished prisons. They're called communists, they call themselves DSA, but they're really communists. These are Bolsheviks, and the revolution is coming for the Democrat Party. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why REFI. You've probably been hearing me talk about y Refi for some time. Now we are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments, maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Why Refy will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousand dollars and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over American and we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much they owe. Y ref I can help. Just go to y refi dot com. That's the letter why then refi dot com. And remember y Refi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to yrefi dot com and tell them your friend Andrews sent you. What a great patriotic moment that was. We're into the round of sixteen. I know some of you guys you know soccer. We don't look soccer.
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Speaker 3: I love when Team America wins.
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Speaker 6: I hate soccer, but I will say one of my earliest Memories. It was the twenty twenty two World Cup in Qatar, and Charlie was literally watching it on his phone during the show. It was really like like would ask a question to the guest and then totally not paying attention, just looking at his phone, and he would send in the chat like we just scored it.
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Speaker 3: Mark Calprin, Mark Calprin.
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Speaker 4: Hates football and soccer or whatever you want to call it. Bring him in in just a second.
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Speaker 3: I'm kidding. I don't know where he's at on this all right.
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Speaker 4: Mark Calprin is the host of Next Next Up with Wait, hold on, Mark, you have two shows?
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Speaker 3: This is it just brains?
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Speaker 6: Two Ways Next Up on the Megakelly have three shows, okay three the Morning Meeting and two Way tonight and then I had Next Up?
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Speaker 3: But Next Up?
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Speaker 2: Anything anything else you ask me, I'll only give the same answer, no matter what the question.
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Speaker 8: USA, USA, USA, Uh, don't say I hate SoC gentlemen. The rest of the world loves football. It's the beautiful game. And it's just I know you guys have a brand equity and being Philistines, but no, do not hate it.
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Speaker 2: It's a beautiful game. It's everyone else in the world loves it.
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Speaker 6: Everyone the best country in the world.
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Speaker 5: We have better.
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Speaker 4: Sports, the upshot of you know, the Brazilification of Americas. That would just get better at soccer, at football, do we know? Yeah, I mean obviously this team is like all they're all playing in Europe. They're all like Pacilic, top striker on the Italian team, he's on.
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Speaker 6: I think our players are heavily just you know, white and black guys. We've had those along.
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Speaker 8: Tell me, yeah, yeah, it's It's also the greatest moment in the sun for West Virginia since the bird rule, because it's to a place I belong, West Virginia. Matt and Mama take me home Country Roads. I never thought a West Virginia song would be our national anthem, but there you go.
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Speaker 4: It's so good though, it just feels right, and I get I got chilled out. To be honest, I'm I'm a total sucker for anything patriotic, and yeah, when we want to after that incredibly stupid red card that should be appealed, I don't know. I don't know if Trump hass to grant clemency to our striker or whatever. That guy's actually kind of like, now.
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Speaker 5: You careful, I think Trump is.
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Speaker 6: He might be like, we're gonna suspend the games unless they release the red card.
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Speaker 2: He might.
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Speaker 3: He might just because the guy's banned from the next match.
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Speaker 4: It's just ridiculous, a total incidental and this is why Americans don't like it.
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Speaker 8: The flopping question. I've been on for about four minutes. Now, can we have a hydration break?
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Speaker 4: Hey, listen, East Coast. You know I'm heading there tomorrow, so it's blake. It's you know, the heat is no joke, man, The heat is real. Although this match was played in San Francisco.
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Speaker 2: It's it's it's hot here, there's no doubt.
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Speaker 8: But but we're impervious to that because we just turned the air condition to Mondamini sanctioned seventy eight degrees. That was cool, cool down and seventy seventy eight.
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Speaker 3: Is there any more socialists?
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Speaker 6: The funny thing is, then I set my home AC two about seventy eight lizards.
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Speaker 2: No, you do not, people, people, people keep saying this to me. Get rid of the air condition.
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Speaker 8: If you're gonna sit it on seventy eight, open the windows and turn on a fan seventy eight.
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Speaker 5: You don't want to open the windows here. You get moths if you do that.
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Speaker 8: Seventy eight now do you mean sixty eight, because that's where it should be set.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a I'm a I'm a seventy two to seventy four guy.
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Speaker 3: I don't know se eight.
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Speaker 8: When the Astrodome opened, it was mandated sixty eight degrees. I lived by the astrodome rules.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I want I want.
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Speaker 8: To be able to I want to be able to freeze water into ice cubes, right my.
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Speaker 4: Dad, Well listen, this is all very fascinating stuff. But I will tell you is there any more socialist like image possible? Then you got rent freezes, and then you got you know, freeze your your thermostat at seventy eight. I mean the malaise. You can feel the malaise, just like creeping in anyways. I I hope, I hope that kind of stuff actually has some sort of political impact because it is so close to home. It's visceral, it's daily life kind of stuff.
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Speaker 2: Do you know what I do? You know what I plan to do.
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Speaker 8: I plan to go to Madison Square Garden tomorrow night, walk right in and if and check the thermostat, and if Taylor has it above seventy eight degrees or below seventy eight degrees.
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Speaker 2: I'm an arrest her citizens, citizens arrest.
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Speaker 4: Her name is not Taylor Swift after this weekend, it's Taylor Kelsey. And if she doesn't take the last name, she doesn't, she doesn't mean it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's what we believe.
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Speaker 3: That is. That is a great Charlie. As a matter of fact, you make.
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Speaker 6: Us agree, but you disagree on soccer to Mark, so you know, judgment of suspect, except we do agree.
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Speaker 2: With assuming they've never had sex before. Now I agree with you.
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there you go that.
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Speaker 4: I think they're chased chest All right, Mark, I gotta talk about this.
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Speaker 3: I would get me this. What's that you said? Yes, sir, yes, sir, all right.
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Speaker 8: Occasionally I like to pretend it is your show and I don't hijacket.
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Speaker 3: So well that I appreciate you giving us some deference. Here.
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Speaker 4: I need the Donnie Deutsch clip. Where is that clip? Okay, I was hanging out with you. We got too excited. I'm too excited about and all this stuff. Give me that which clip is thirty five?
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Speaker 9: No?
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Speaker 4: No, I think that's that's Charlie talking about tells Okay, all right, here's the deal. The old politics is gone mark till my team gets me the clip that I need. And the establishment Dems are freaking out, and I don't think they have a clue what's coming their way. I think Trump unleashed the animal passions of the populist base on both sides, and it took all these years for it to catch up on the left. I think the establishment Dems are absolutely unprepared for this moment.
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Speaker 3: They are going to get wiped out.
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Speaker 6: And we have proof. We have the clip now, it's Donny Deutsch twenty one.
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Speaker 10: Democrats are going off the rails.
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Speaker 9: They're not even focused what matters to people's affordability. And Democrats right now are focused on two things that focus on anti Semitism and socialism. That's not all Democrats, not, but that's where the energy and the parties this Right now, every Republican strategist is salivating on what these people up said in the past, and they're going to wallpaper it with it. And Democrats are going down a bad path. They're elected these democratic socialists. It's a disaster, no matter what you think of it, wherever your politics are, it's bad strategy.
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Speaker 3: Do you agree that bad strategy.
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Speaker 8: That was that Donnie Deutsch or Steve Bannon or Roger Stone are just.
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Speaker 3: I think it was mad Owt. That's it.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I have a lot of thoughts about this. I'll try to be brief and you follow as you wish. Of course, you look at these candidates who are who Donnie believe and others and certainly the president believes will define the party. There's two things. One is well three things, sorry. One is their populist and anti establishment and that's good. Now, it's not comforting to some members of the democratic establishment, but that's energy, and that's passion, and that's mobilization. Second thing is they have a lot of really left wing views right therefore, no police, no ice, no borders, no prisons, single payer healthcare. There are a lot of left wing positions that are very popular with tens of millions of people, but probably are not winning general elections. And then the third thing is they say a lot of crazy stuff. Now, some things in the second bucket are seen by many as crazy, like abolished ice, but also.
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Speaker 2: Tens of millions of people like it.
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Speaker 8: But then they say anti Semitic things, anti white things, they say crazy stuff, Donnie, I think is insufficiently focused on the difference between two and three. They're both big problems, but most of the Democratic parties pretty far left, maybe not as far left as some of these candidates. But I agree with Donnie and in the main that this is a massive problem. The president hasn't quite found his voice on it, but by election day, by the convention in Dalla See, you guys there, he will and almost certainly. And this is a this is a this is an electoral disaster to be a socialist party. Democrats like socialism the general election electorate not so crazy about the implications of it.
00:27:01
Speaker 4: Well, that's my big question, right because and Mark, with all due respect, you've you've been covering this beat for a long time, but the country that you were covering when you started as a as a journalist and reporter is not the same country that we have now. We've imported millions of people, we have a complete demographically, we're different, spiritually, we're different. There are different, I would say obstacles in our path. We've been printing money like crazy for decades and that has hollowed out the middle class. It's devalued the dollar, the off shoring. What my point is, what the DSA folk the crowd are reacting to are very real problems and very felt needs. If you're making sixty thousand dollars a year, right, and that's real. So and you know, you think about orn cass where you used to be able to support a family of four if the dad went to work for forty three weeks a year. Now it's like sixty five.
00:27:58
Speaker 3: Weeks a year.
00:27:58
Speaker 4: You got to work to supportive family of four. Things are different. Does the underlying changes in American society make the rise of socialism? And I really call it Marxism. They want to do it electorally at first, at least at first. Does it change your calculus.
00:28:16
Speaker 2: My calculus about what?
00:28:17
Speaker 4: Yeah, you say this is electoral electorally a bad strategy, politically a bad strategy.
00:28:22
Speaker 2: Well, I agree with exactly how you framed it.
00:28:28
Speaker 8: I remember in twenty sixteen one of the most resonant moments for me was a big Bernie Sanders event in New Hampshire. The Sanders folks were angry at the Democratic establishment embodied by Hillary Clinton. Then they were Donald Trump by like a lot. When I would talk to them, you talk about Trump like an abstraction, and in some cases, of course then and now agree with Donald Trump both about the long term economic decline and the roots.
00:28:56
Speaker 2: Of it, but also about some of the solutions.
00:29:00
Speaker 8: I think that if you imagined a parallel universe where someone had all these populist positions, charisma, and some populist solutions that were center left or left left, that'd be super powerful. But these people go the candidates in the spotlight now, the Democratic Socialists who are Democratic nominees, they're far to the left of that. So I think what you're framing does it change my view? It changes my view.
00:29:29
Speaker 2: About what might be.
00:29:31
Speaker 8: But what is is that they've got these anti semitic positions, and they they'refore things like abolishing ice that are unpopular when they stay on the economy and their economic description of what's happened to the country, and they capture and harness that anger. As Donald Trump in twenty sixteen. I think they're very potent, and I think they could win some general elections. The problem for them is James Blair and the President and lots of other Republicans will highlight their anti semitism, their extremes statements on issues like policing that make it difficult for them to to have the affordability message breakthrough.
00:30:07
Speaker 3: Mark tell us your shows again.
00:30:09
Speaker 8: Monday through Friday AA nine am Eastern Time, the morning meeting on two Way. Watch it on YouTube the Two Way platform or x live or on demand five pm Eastern Time Monday through Friday Two Way Tonight on same platforms. And then Tuesdays and Thursdays I do Next Up that drops as a podcast and on YouTube. And so that's ten twelve shows a week. Plus I do a lot of other things.
00:30:34
Speaker 3: And plus you do our show from time to time.
00:30:36
Speaker 6: What's your going to be when ye get around to it? Are you going to do like a Sunday NFL.
00:30:41
Speaker 8: Cook cook cooking showing cooking with Mark, like that first First two Way First two Way Cooking Ship.
00:30:48
Speaker 2: I've got a bunch of shows or so you know.
00:30:50
Speaker 8: I got a polling show that I do once a month now with Harris X where very transparent about the methodology and then we take questions from people so you can come and ask questions. So people constantly complaining about poles, but as Mark Twain would say, they never do anything about it. But now you can listen to the pole presentation and then citizens can raise their hands and say what about this?
00:31:10
Speaker 2: And what's a crosstab on that? And you know, I just compared to other poles, So.
00:31:14
Speaker 5: What a machine? What a machine.
00:31:16
Speaker 6: But we're talking about this rise of democratic socialism, left wing economic views, very left wing views on ice, on the Jews, on a lot of things. And I guess the thought that just entered my head during the break mark is you're saying it might be the future of the country, but for now it's political poison. And all I can think is I feel like I've been around the block a few times. I remember twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, where oh yeah, President Trump has some popular stuff, but he also has wacky stuff on other issues and that will kill him. And I just wonder, could this sort of wave basically create its own reality where we're saying this stuff is really unpopular and instead of making it making them lose, they just have the power to make these things popular.
00:32:00
Speaker 2: Yes, could be, could be?
00:32:05
Speaker 8: You know, you can't take out the element of Trump is one of the best presidential candidates, one of the best politicians we've ever seen. So I imagine a parallel universe where John Ossoff shared Bernie Sanders' point of view and was determined to become president of the United States and knew how to round off the sharp ages. You know, I'll workshop this with you because I'm gonna do it on next up, next week. But I'm still reporting it out, you know. And you guys baseball fans, right, that's an American game.
00:32:37
Speaker 11: Yes, sir.
00:32:38
Speaker 8: They say the hardest thing in all of sports is hitting a baseball. And you know what they say, the second thing of all sports is preventing somebody hitting a baseball.
00:32:48
Speaker 2: Right, These are really hard things.
00:32:50
Speaker 8: The hardest thing in Democratic Party politics is as a socialist to win the nomination, the presidential nomination, because the establishment we saw in twenties sixteen to twenty twenty will will bribe and steal and cheat to keep you from winning the nomination. I think the second hardest thing in Democratic presidential politics now is to stop a socialist from becoming the Democratic nominee. And what you have in this presidential field, and I believe that this is where the fight will happen. They'll be skirmishes in the midterms, but this fight for the heart and soul of the Democratic Party will occurr in the context of the twenty twenty eight presidential campaign, which you have is a bunch of very unskilled candidates, both the socialists.
00:33:31
Speaker 2: And the establishment. They're all very weak candidates.
00:33:34
Speaker 8: If Bill Clinton or Barack Obama we're running against the socialist, it'd be no contest. If John Ossof were a socialist, I think it'd be no contest. The problem is, how do you handicap a contest of inepp second grade soccer players to really poorly equipped soccer teams second graders roll the ball out. Who's going to win? The socialist team or the capitalist team? Hard to know because they're so weak.
00:34:06
Speaker 5: You say that, and it got me thinking.
00:34:07
Speaker 6: I was looking at the polls the other day, and we're in We're in sort of the Indian summer of the Kamala Harris return to her. She was the sort of default early she fell off, which I expected, But now she's back in first place. She's rising in the polls again, and some axios is reporting she's coosing up with some of these called thesa elements called Manbanni. Yeah, are we actually do you think we're likely to get the Kamala Harris twenty eight reducks.
00:34:31
Speaker 2: Possibly, I don't think so.
00:34:33
Speaker 8: But I'd also say of all the people talked about from the establishment wing of the party to potentially be the nominee, I would put her towards the bottom in having the sophistication and skill to run for the nomination, not as a pure socialist, but finesse the relationships. Obviously what she's trying to do here, whether it's in the context of running for president or not. She doesn't agree with Mondamie on a bunch of stuff, but she's caught him up to try to finesse it, to say, I want the socialists on my side, because that's where the energy is, the fundraising, the grassroots, the voluntary, the door knocking.
00:35:06
Speaker 2: But I'll say.
00:35:07
Speaker 8: Again that task is the second toughest thing in American democratic presidential politics, and I don't think she's up to it. I think I think that the tiger who she's grabbing by the tail and calling the tiger will eat her. She will not ride the tiger to the nomination.
00:35:24
Speaker 4: Well, listen, I think all of this. You know, this is something Charlie talked a lot about. I know Bandon's talked a lot about it. But there are two roads that we can choose as a country before us. One is the Mam Donnie Bolshevik socialist revolution. It could get bloody, there's a lot of bad stuff associated with it. And then there's MAGA. But here's the problem. President Trump's populist capitalist American reform is getting stuck in the Senate. It's getting bastardized and slowed down at every front by whether it's judicial you know, obstruction or whatever. And my fear is is that the reform that would actually help alleviate some of the affordability needs, wants and concerns that are very real is getting blocked by real politic. It's getting blocked by the DC establishment, and I fear that that is creating discontent that we're not delivering on our promises, that this is what's actually fueling the rise of the socialist left, the Bolsheviks, and this is a five alarm fire for conservatives too. I looked at that Donnie Deutsch clip and I'm like, Okay, yeah, we can harness this. The question is how and what's the right strategy and do we have enough time left on the clock before they take root.
00:36:41
Speaker 8: I agree with everything you said, except I'm not sure that's causing the rise of the left. I think that's causing disappointment on the right. The failure of the president need to overcome the establishment in the Congress, in his own party. I don't know that's causing it.
00:36:55
Speaker 2: I think that the President is run.
00:36:59
Speaker 8: Up against the Washington establishment, and I think that's creating a fight for the heart and soul of the Republican Party and who the Republicans will look to for leadership in the future after Donald Trump. I don't think that's what's giving rise to Bernie. I think what's giving to the socialists. I think what's giving rise to the socialist is their obsession with Israel and Hamas and Gaza and Palestinians, and the fact that if you think about it, in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, they were going to nominate their person and the establishment just stole it.
00:37:29
Speaker 2: And then in twenty twenty four they couldn't.
00:37:30
Speaker 8: Run anybody because no one was going to challenge Joe Biden and then Kamla Harris. So you imagine if you're someone who came of age in twenty fifteen and we're attracted to socialist policies which are popular in much of the rest of the world. You've now gone more than a decade where the party that you associate yourself with has said, you can't have your aspirations single payer healthcare, abolition of ICE, no more military aid to Israel.
00:37:59
Speaker 2: You can't have your aspers expressed.
00:38:01
Speaker 8: Through even the openness of the Democratic Party to hearing those ideas for leadership. And I think that's what's given rise to it. It's not really there's some connection to Donald Trump, but I think it's mostly all the stuff you mentioned before, income inequality, and and and feeling like they can't buy a house, all the stuff Charlie talked about. They want to see those things adjudicated and ameliorated through socialist and communist policies and and and the Democratic Party their only vehicle up until now to try says no, the establishment's got this.
00:38:36
Speaker 3: I agree with that. I agree with that.
00:38:37
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is the right wing populism energy that President Trump the solutions have been so obstructed that I'm afraid, and this is what Charlie was afraid of, is that we are in a race against the clock and either our ideas are going to work and they're going to work somewhat quickly, or this energy that we've been perceiving from the left is going to swamp the movement and it's going to off enough normies and independence. And so if we don't have the energy and the winds, we're gonna lose and they're gonna win.
00:39:07
Speaker 2: I agree, But the two caveats.
00:39:09
Speaker 8: One is they can't They have to have someone who's talented, like Donald Trump is talented. It has to be someone who can pull this off because a lot of the country would reject social but they might buy it from someone who's better communicated, Saya.
00:39:21
Speaker 2: The other thing like Obama. The other thing is or Clinton, Bill Clinton.
00:39:24
Speaker 8: The other thing is you can't come to it with abolish ice, abolished prisons, of boss the police. The populist economic message has could have broad popularity if Republicans blow it. But that other stuff's never going to be popular. That other stuff's eighty twenty against hope.
00:39:39
Speaker 3: You're right, so, insaid Mark, I know you got to go.
00:39:42
Speaker 8: Thank you for rapp to see you get on the pitch with your with your mates and play some football.
00:39:49
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00:41:20
Speaker 5: I'm happy they're in the coalition.
00:41:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, but I am. I am actually a huge proponent. Charlie was a huge proponent proponent of it. And I'm gonna I want to talk about this rise in cancer which is really really disturbing. Actually, I think we have a graphic of this. This is global cancer incidents. Global cancer incidents rose by approximately forty two percent over the last measured decade. Cancer's up forty two percent over the last decade, which is just incredible. The sheer volume of new cancer cases grew drastically from fourteen point one million to twenty million annually, while cancer debts have more than doubled since nineteen eighty.
00:42:03
Speaker 3: Something is going on.
00:42:05
Speaker 4: And during a recent Senate committee hearing, doctors and medical professionals suggested an interesting link between cancer and the COVID nineteen vaccine. And I think this is a really really important topic that we need to dive into. So we have a special guest with us who has over fifty years in this space and health and wellness, and that is Kim Bright. She is the founder of bright Core, one of a friends of our program and partners. Kim, welcome to the show. It's so great to have.
00:42:35
Speaker 12: You, Andrew, thanks for having me, Hi Blake. Let's convince you Blake that this stuff's really important.
00:42:43
Speaker 4: Listen, Kim, I could use your help on this because he's one of these everything's woo woo to him guys. And I'm a big believer. I follow the Maha movement very very closely, and I'm really working on getting microplastics out of my diet and my water. All that stuff just got an ro by the way, really important reverse osmosis.
00:43:05
Speaker 3: It's another topic for another time. So that's great.
00:43:08
Speaker 12: But have you guys seen that Senate Committee hearing? Have you seen that clip?
00:43:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think we have a clip that we're pulling right now as well, Kim. The we're having some sort of technical difficulty with it. But the Senator Blumenthal was involved in this, and they're still pushing these vaccines all these years later, which I find crazy. But like of course, they are because there's so much money involved, there's vested interest, big pharma. They totally have an agenda. But like we need to remember that these vaccines were also linked to milcarditis, hypertension, blood clotting like thrombosis, neurological conditions, And now I think it's really important that we asked the question is there a direct correlation between these vaccines that they forced everybody to take and cancer.
00:43:54
Speaker 12: Well, you know, I just have to say that, you know, a lot of people do believe that Senator Blumenthal and demon rats are still pushing the safety of these vaccines.
00:44:02
Speaker 10: It's hard for them to believe.
00:44:04
Speaker 12: Some people believe that, but it's hard for others to believe. And they are, and they've got those vested interests, a big farm on their agenda. And like you said, we've got the myocarditis, hypertension, blood clotting effects, severe neurological conditions like migraine seizures, Alzheimer's, autoimmune disorders, and increased inflammation, which is leading to all kinds of problems, including cancer. And who knows what is still to come because a lot of the consequences of taking these vaccines, they do not materialize right away. And can you believe you guys that big pharmacy solution to this cancer epidemic is yet another mRNA vaccine.
00:44:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I can because they get a lot of money doing this, Kim. And that's the real issue, I think with a lot of this stuff. This is why I'm a big fan of RFK and what he's doing there. By the way, Kim, did you know that a RFK junior endorsed President Trump in twenty twenty four at an event that we produced here in Phoenix Areas.
00:45:05
Speaker 10: Yes, I actually saw it.
00:45:06
Speaker 12: I watched it over and over again, and I am so I'm so happy. I actually said to some of my friends when he came on stage, I said, wouldn't it be great if he could become vice president? And yet he's filling such a better role in what President Trump put him in.
00:45:27
Speaker 10: So yes, I did see that.
00:45:28
Speaker 3: He's doing a great job.
00:45:29
Speaker 4: But he's I mean, obviously he's famous for some of his skepticism about some of these vaccines. But yeah, the moderna cancer vaccine. What do you make of this, Kim?
00:45:40
Speaker 12: Well, I make of it that it's not something that I would ever use, and I'm hoping that others wouldn't use it either based on the history.
00:45:48
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, you there's a video.
00:45:51
Speaker 12: People have to see a video about the moderna cancer vaccine, and they will, I think, be convinced because in.
00:45:58
Speaker 10: This video, the the head.
00:46:00
Speaker 12: Of Maderna actually laughs after he finishes explaining it because he says.
00:46:06
Speaker 10: Oh, this is a real study well as opposed.
00:46:09
Speaker 12: To what so we already know what the mr and RNA the mRNA dead with COVID. So you know, in my opinion, these pharmaceutical CEOs they don't actually care about people's lives. They care about the bottom line. They care about the profits, and they're trying to sell the idea that the solution to cancer being caused by an mRNA vaccine is yet another vaccine. It's kind of like trying to cure cancer with more cancer, which is insane. So you know, this is why people say that we have in this country, what we have is not a healthcare system. It's a sick care system. I've been doing this for over fifty years, and I can tell you I was saying this long ago. And you know, in the end, the only winners of this are the pharmaceutical companies who are turning huge profits and getting everybody hooked on the idea of, you know, treating symptoms with more drugs.
00:47:06
Speaker 4: Well, that's exactly right, I mean, and this is something Charlie focused on a ton.
00:47:10
Speaker 3: By the way that they.
00:47:12
Speaker 4: Get you sick, they provide the sickness remedy quote unquote that makes you sicker, and then they provide another remedy to deal with the sickness that they caused. And that is exactly what happened. And by the way, not to talk about even you know, bodily autonomy and our freedom when it comes to making our own.
00:47:30
Speaker 3: Health care decisions.
00:47:32
Speaker 4: This is exactly what big pharma does and they're pushing it again. So I'm watching this very closely. By the way, Kim, they're also doing this with our food and our agriculture. They're forcing through mRNA shots across the board. I mean, is there just a note on that is there when you say mRNA vaccines and things like this distinct from say, like the old school polio vaccine. Does that raise your suspicions immediately like it does mine?
00:47:57
Speaker 12: Yes, And you know, I've watched, like I said, I've been involved with helping people for over fifty years. I'm seventy one now, and so I started, you know, getting involved with this whole movement back, you know, when.
00:48:09
Speaker 10: I was twenty.
00:48:10
Speaker 12: So I think that I've had a very a lot of empirical knowledge come to me because of seeing and helping people. And yes, we have a way to do things naturally, we don't. You address the cause of things. You don't address symptoms. And that's where western medicine went off the rails on purpose, because when you address symptoms instead of cause, you make tons and billions and trillions of dollars over decades.
00:48:38
Speaker 4: Well, they became they make you addicted to the system. And by the way, we see this with the trans movement, right, they get you there. They're basically trying to make people become annuities to the system, to the financial to the healthcare industrial complex.
00:48:54
Speaker 12: They're becoming objects, Andrew, They're taking humans and making them into objects. And I don't think that's what God intended to you.
00:49:02
Speaker 3: No, not at all.
00:49:03
Speaker 4: I Mean, I have so many thoughts here, Kim, because I one of the gals that I work with, she works remote, she's on the East coast, but she just you know, gets admitted to the hospital and She's sitting there for eight hours with all this pain she's you know er.
00:49:19
Speaker 3: They won't give her anything for the pain.
00:49:21
Speaker 4: For eight hours, you know, because they have all these protocols to follow. She waiting for the doctor to come on. It's like a third world country at this hospital's er. All she's doing is begging for a little bit of you know, like a tail and all, and they won't even give her that because the whole.
00:49:35
Speaker 5: System today they might offer her maid exactly.
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00:50:39
Speaker 13: We've been working on this for almost ten years now, so it's a lot of investment in innovation with merk It's basically an individual's treatment for cancer. So the data we share is about skin cancer milanoma, which as you know a lot of people die from every year, and other people that have diagnosed with and what is very unique about this drug called in tismearan is it's individualized.
00:51:01
Speaker 2: Meaning if you and.
00:51:03
Speaker 13: I will diagnosed the same day by the same doctor with skin cancer, modern I we'll make a different medicine for your cancer and the medicine for my cancer, and that would be done in a thirty days. And as you said, the results are already exciting. If you look at the study, it was a phase to study one hundred and fifty seven people. He was randomized, so it was a real study.
00:51:26
Speaker 3: That's terrifying.
00:51:27
Speaker 4: Actually, we're back with Kim Bright talking about how the COVID vaccine is proving to be even more damaging then we previously even imagine, Kim, what are some specific like put some you know, flesh and meat to the bones here, some specific specific examples that people can kind of keep in their mind to how this is true.
00:51:49
Speaker 12: All right, well, let me let me bring up a specific case of a very healthy thirty year old woman. She was very athletic, she had no pre existing conditions, and all of a sudden, she starts to experience symptoms just one day, one day after receiving her second COVID nineteen vaccine.
00:52:06
Speaker 10: Okay, shortly after that.
00:52:07
Speaker 12: Now she's diagnosed with lymphoblastic lymphoma and lymphoblastic leukemia. These are a this is an aggressive blood cancer.
00:52:15
Speaker 10: Okay.
00:52:16
Speaker 12: In another case, a pregnant woman who had no idea that she was dealing with anything other than normal symptoms that occur when you're pregnant was diagnosed with blood cancer and literally died the next day. Now, she was only twenty eight years old, and she started dealing with flu like symptoms for a few days. She couldn't eat, and even her legs stopped working.
00:52:40
Speaker 10: She could not stand.
00:52:41
Speaker 12: Now, it is not uncommon for people to mistake cancer symptoms for other less severe illnesses, and there are simple things like cold and flu symptoms and bag pain that are often associated and some of the first symptoms that people will experience when they have cancer. And just because they're not experiencing therefore symptoms does not mean that the cancer is not in its advanced stages. Now, she literally died the day after her diagnosis, So I mean, this is sad. She left behind her husband or two children. It's such a heartbreaking story. And so much of the rise in the cancer incidents has to do with what we consume. And I'm not just talking about these vaccines, Andrew. So much of the recent research has shown that ultra process foods have a direct link to the spiking cancer rates. And so it's not only about what you avoid consuming, like the ultra process foods and the chemicals. It's about the good things that you decide to put or not to put in your body as well, which is why I got very excited to find a study that I found regarding cancer. And this study got me so excited because it measured the actual potential of lactic acid bacteria that's found in a centuries old for men and food called kimchi to prevent cancer.
00:54:10
Speaker 10: They showed this in this study.
00:54:12
Speaker 12: And this study concluded, and I quote, the antibiotic tolerant probiotic presented in kimchi suppresses expression of carcinogen activating enzymes and possesses many other health benefits such as suppression of growth and development of pathogenic bacteria, intestinal regulation, and immune boosts. Especially the WC biarra and L plantarum found in kimchi have many effects like anti inflammatory, immune modulating, and blood cholesterol reducing activity, which may account for their cancer preventative, anti cancer provenial or potential. Now, cancer isn't. Cancer is much more likely to arise when you have an immune system that isn't functioning properly. Another recent study revealed kimci 's ability to rewire the way our immune systems work, making them stronger and more efficient.
00:55:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at this.
00:55:07
Speaker 13: Uh.
00:55:08
Speaker 4: One group received a placebo, while the other two groups received two different types of kimchi powder kimchi that had been freeze dried and put into a capsule that's amazing.
00:55:20
Speaker 12: Exactly exactly, and having a stronger immune system isn't just about avoiding cancer. It makes you less susceptible to contracting viruses and other pathogens. And what's interesting, you guys about so many of these kimchie studies is that they are using the kimchi capsules because there's no other way to conduct a controlled placebo study.
00:55:41
Speaker 4: Well, I will just say that, I think, Blake, you like the taste of it, right, Oh, it's Kimchi's great.
00:55:47
Speaker 3: I can't I just eat it.
00:55:48
Speaker 4: I love that stuff, but anything like fermented or pickled or anything like that, I just like, it's not for me. But my wife loves it. But I but so I need I need it in a pill. I can't do it if it's not a bill.
00:56:01
Speaker 12: Well, and the key to getting all these benefits, and there's so many people like you Andrew out there, you know, the key to getting all these benefits is that you have to consume the kimchi on a daily basis. Ever, this is over and over again in research papers. But the only problem is it's not something that's easy to eat for most people every day, which is why we went ahead and created kimchi one and what Kimchi one is is it's convenient capsules for your daily use, and we use a coal process drying method to retain all the fiber that's the prebiotic and the nutrition of the actual fermented kimchi, the probiotics and the post biotics, virtually no sodium unlike Storbot kimchi, and it's one hundred percent made in the USA, all natural, non GMO and perfect. I'm going to tell you, guys, there's so many stories that people have, you know, either called or written in to tell us how successful Kimchi one has been with their health.
00:56:56
Speaker 4: I will tell you I'm a huge believer in this. I think think the gut health, the microbiome is the key. Like the reason we want to keep hitting this topic so hard on the show is I think gut health is the key to health.
00:57:10
Speaker 3: I'm completely convinced of this.
00:57:12
Speaker 10: Like our Andrew, You're one hundred percent right.
00:57:15
Speaker 12: I said that fifty years ago and got laughed at and told I was insane and crazy.
00:57:20
Speaker 10: Took fifty years.
00:57:21
Speaker 3: Improved, correct, It's everything.
00:57:23
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01:00:35
Speaker 14: Well, thank you for having me. You know you're talking about what is American? You know, so I just see this news thing. So ICE agents tried to arrest Clemente laa Hernandez from Mexico, and instead of complying peacefully, he rammed his car into ice vehicles and fled the scene.
01:00:53
Speaker 11: And so I'm tired of this scrap. I'm tired of this.
01:00:55
Speaker 14: Being the normal refrain in this country where civilians are at because of these people come to this country, they use and abuse our system, and they're taking away and hurting Americans as we go. So, which is why I'm so outspoken on immigration. This is America. We get to choose who comes in. We also get to choose who leaves. And this guy should be out here.
01:01:18
Speaker 3: I completely agree. And now we've got birthright.
01:01:21
Speaker 4: The Supreme Court, instead of narrowly tailoring their decision making it a statutory a legislative fix, they've basically said, the Constitution's very clear, the fourteenth Amendment is very clear, and anybody born on the king soil is a subject of the King.
01:01:39
Speaker 3: They're going back to English common law. If people aren't picking up the.
01:01:44
Speaker 4: Context of what I'm saying there, they're not addressing the fact that we broke from the King and even England doesn't follow that Jews solely whatever nonsense anymore. Okay, so you are hard at work trying to come up with legislative solutions.
01:01:58
Speaker 3: What is the fix to this, sir Well, I.
01:02:00
Speaker 14: Mean, first, there's a bigger answer there in that we have to completely overhaul immigration, but specifically to the birthright issue. So one thing I'll say, and I'm not defending the Supreme Court. Unfortunately they got this wrong. They got this horribly wrong. But that being said, Congress for too long has allowed the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. For too long, Congress has usurped its authority in its obligation to pass laws and to answer these questions. And what has Congress done. They kick it to the Supreme Court. And so this should have never have gotten to the Supreme Court. And if you look at the fourteenth Amendment, Jacob Howard, the author, he's clear in his testimony into the Senate on what he's talking about, and I'll read it. This will not, of course include persons born in the United States who are foreigners or aliens. That's foreigners aliens, And so we have the opportunity to define what aliens is or what or who they should be or would be.
01:03:01
Speaker 11: And so that's what I'm trying to do so.
01:03:02
Speaker 14: The temporary fix is my Anchors Away Bill, which basically says, if you're pregnant and you're not a citizen, you're not a Green card holder, you need not come to the United States of America because we're not going to let you have your baby on our soil. And why why is that such a big deal? Because you have members of the Chinese Communist Party, the upper echelon, the elite that hate this country, the elite that hack our country every single freaking day. I'm chairman a cyber and when I go into the skiff and I get the Joint Chiefs Staff, the classified reports, it's China, China, China, China. And you literally have a million Chinese kids who have been born in the United States or Guam, but they're being raised in China by the Chinese Republic. They're being taught to hate America, and every single one of them, if they're a United States Senate or a citizen, could run for the presidency of the Uni States. Our founding fathers never contemplated that that would be an option, right, And so this is the Supreme Court Again.
01:04:08
Speaker 11: Congress should have.
01:04:09
Speaker 14: Never have led it gotten to get this far. But here we are, and so I'm legislating. I've got this Assimilation Act, which aggresses addresses immigration. I've got the Remigration Act, which addresses denaturalization, so people like Mom Donnie who lied on their in four hundred could be deported.
01:04:26
Speaker 11: And then we've got this which.
01:04:27
Speaker 14: Addresses the fourteenth Amendment and the anchors Away Bill. We've got to be loud, we've got to be proud. This is our country. We get to define the terms.
01:04:36
Speaker 4: I love your stance on all of this. Your staff knows that I share your views on basically all of the above. So okay, anchors Away. I have a technical question, but I actually think it's important.
01:04:50
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know the answer to it. Maybe Blake does.
01:04:53
Speaker 4: If a foreign national is flying over US airspace, oh boy, and has the baby on the plane.
01:05:02
Speaker 5: US citizen, US citizen.
01:05:03
Speaker 6: And that's actually really crazy because we have to admit people, you know, to the United States at customs, But getting into US air space is easier. You can get on a plane in Canada and fly it over the United States and land in Mexico.
01:05:18
Speaker 5: And your earth just if you time it right, I mean you and you log it.
01:05:21
Speaker 6: You know, I can imagine paperwork obstacles to this, but I think we have judges eager to.
01:05:27
Speaker 4: Give absurdity that exposes a deeper rot in the way we even are thinking about this.
01:05:34
Speaker 11: Well, and it's more than it's sinister.
01:05:36
Speaker 14: I mean when you literally think about the fact that you have, you know, a ten year old being raised in China right now to hate this country, to hate the United States of America, and they're eligible to run for the for the White House. That's that's unheard of. I mean you literally, we literally could have a Chinese Communist Party official as President of the United States in twenty thirty years, because we've allowed this to happen.
01:05:57
Speaker 4: Of course, and it's all absurd, it's all obscene, and it's a slap in the face. As you know, Clarence Thomas said, I think brilliantly, this devalues what citizenship is supposed to be and what our founders intended it to be. But so your legal premise, though, I just want to make sure I'm very clear, is.
01:06:16
Speaker 3: That because you're going to redefine what an.
01:06:19
Speaker 4: Alien is legislatively, and at that point that will get challenged in the courts. You think that has more of a chance of surviving legal muster.
01:06:29
Speaker 14: That's right. So when you look at the abortion debate and the litigation that took decades to work its way through the Supreme Court until you had that right case, that right argument that they could were quite frankly forced to adjudicate on. This definition of alien is I think where we attack where we say we have a right to define who and what that or who that applies to. And again we're Congress, we write the laws, and you know, and when you look at the content when this was written.
01:07:01
Speaker 2: So this was.
01:07:02
Speaker 14: Introduced in May of eighteen sixty six, it was passed in the Senate first and June, then July in the House, and then two years later in July, the fourteenth Amendment was ratified. But they were not contemplating the United States allowing literally the direct enemy of this country to become citizens.
01:07:23
Speaker 2: Right.
01:07:23
Speaker 14: This was about those individuals who want to be here, have a reason to be here, want to assimilate and be a part of this country, want to be a part.
01:07:30
Speaker 11: Of our culture, the fabric.
01:07:33
Speaker 14: Meanwhile, you now have again I'm talking about the highest elite in China going to Guam, having their children going back to China and raising communist leaders. Every one of them will end up with the US passport. Every one of them will end up the US citizenship. And regardless of what the libtard media says, the most powerful, the most important, the most sought after passport in the world is the US passport, which is why you have Chinese having babies on US soil because they want that passport and they want that citizenship.
01:08:08
Speaker 3: I mean one thousand percent.
01:08:09
Speaker 4: And you know you've got these Northern Marianna Islands where you don't even need a visa. That seems to be something the State Department could fix relatively quickly, and you do have births. We have a clip and I'll show you this Congressman from twenty thirteen, I believe this was sixty minutes or CBS where they're talking about Chinese birth tourism in twenty thirteen. And that number, the number you cited, they're a million million, could be a million point five or are people.
01:08:38
Speaker 5: Than are in Wyoming, in South Dakota and North Dakosta or Chinese state.
01:08:41
Speaker 4: The Peter Sweitzer has done a lot of investigation on that go aheader.
01:08:45
Speaker 14: Well, I was going to say in the real issue, and one of the thing that just kind of underscores the problem. We don't know. Is it a million, is it two million, is it nine hundred and fifty thousand? We have no idea how many of these party communist officials are being raised in China to run for US offices.
01:09:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's a great point.
01:09:02
Speaker 4: Who knows how dastardly the plans behind the scenes are at the CCP, and these guys think long term. By the way, we're talking about two year cycles here. Chinese are thinking one hundred years down the road. Place thirty nine.
01:09:15
Speaker 15: Her name is Adalynn. She's four months old and the only American citizen in her family. Her parents, who agreed to speak with us if we didn't show their faces, traveled from China to Los Angeles so Ada could be born in America and claim US citizenship. I want her to live a happy life, her father says. The family is back in China now. They are among thousands of Chinese who become so called birth tourists, staying in maternity hotels near Los Angeles. These hotels are often single family homes in quiet neighborhoods.
01:09:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, real, good job, John, Roberts and Amy Cony Barrett. That's exactly what the founders intended, that have some Chinese foreign national raise their baby and guarantee you just want my daughter to have a happy life.
01:10:01
Speaker 3: What CCP operative told you to say exactly that. Oh it's just you know, if.
01:10:06
Speaker 6: You read about a medieval country or an ancient country having this policy, you would just roll yourrise and say that was incredibly dumb and they deserved whatever disaster happened to them.
01:10:16
Speaker 14: Of course, it would literally pinpoint the beginning of the end of that civilization, is what it was.
01:10:21
Speaker 3: A thousand percent You know.
01:10:22
Speaker 4: Something that gets a lot of attention, I think rightly so is the Heart Seller Act. It was passed in nineteen sixty five, massive massive overhaul of our immigration policy. I believe there's that famous quote by Ted Kenni.
01:10:37
Speaker 6: Kennedy, we will not get a million immigrants in our cities a year. This will not change the makeup of our country.
01:10:44
Speaker 3: It did exactly the opposite.
01:10:47
Speaker 4: So it ended the national origins quota system that was in place ince the nineteen twenties. The previous system favored immigrants from northern and Western Europe. You know, somewhat Southern and Eastern Europeans as well, and it replaced it with a preference system based on family reunifications. This is where we get the chain migration. This is where we get the teos and the teas and the the prima is all coming over, you know, family reunification. You know, it's interesting this DSA gal in Uh I forget her name, the one that just won in Colorado.
01:11:19
Speaker 5: Uh Maratka, I don't know.
01:11:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, star wars name, Yeah, exactly.
01:11:25
Speaker 2: Uh.
01:11:25
Speaker 4: You know, she was a her dad she was born in Addis Ababa in Ethiopia. Her dad won the visa lottery, and so they moved the you know, for no particular reason.
01:11:37
Speaker 3: We just moved somebody here. I'm not sure why.
01:11:39
Speaker 5: We just do it.
01:11:39
Speaker 6: You just do have a diversity lot I remember when I worked at Fox and I discovered we had that. We called it the diversity Lottery, and we just gave tens of thousands to basically anyone who hit some bare minimum threshold and we just picked them at random. And I thought, this is the most insane of all the insane policies that America has.
01:11:59
Speaker 4: Well, and so Heartseller helped raise the amount of immigrants every year from about two hundred ninety seven thousand and nineteen sixty five to about a million one point two million a year.
01:12:11
Speaker 3: LEAs decades les legal.
01:12:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the foreim born population grew from nine point six million, about five percent of the US population in nineteen sixty five, to probably about fifteen percent now in twenty it was probably more than that, actually about about sixty million people. Now, yeah, what is your plan for this abysmal atrocity that we've done to ourselves to deal with?
01:12:36
Speaker 3: Heart Seller? And is there any will in Congress? Sir?
01:12:39
Speaker 14: Well, I will say, you know, I've been very outspoken on this issue of taken a lot of arrows for it.
01:12:45
Speaker 11: But that being said is we have to have this conversation.
01:12:48
Speaker 14: And what I would argue is that you know, we, you know we I've helped move that Overton window where now there's this opportunity to push forward. Now, look, let's be honest. Let's say the House passes my Assimilation Act, my Remigration Acts, the Anchors Away Bill, and then the follow up legislation that we have again continuing to fix what is broken the immigration system.
01:13:10
Speaker 11: You know, it's the Senate.
01:13:11
Speaker 14: The Senate is the problem so you have the Save America Act, which the House has passed. The Save Act we passed. The Save America Act, which has a few more provisions, has over eighty percent approval. Republicans, Democrats, independence, black, white, brown, yellow, doesn't matter, conservative, liberal, everywhere in between. And the Senate isn't doing their job. And so what I would say to John Thune is, if you're unwilling to answer the mandate of the American people, over eighty percent across the board have told you and commanded you what to do. You're a representative, We have a representative government in this country. Go do your job, and if not, you should get out of the way and let someone like Mike Lee or someone else do that job. We have a republic to save and to restore. And not passing the Save America Act, not passing my immigration bills is literally leaving the back door, you know, unlocked and opened and giving a map to the thieves and criminals who want to destroy this country, because that's what's happening every single freaking day exactly.
01:14:13
Speaker 6: And on addressing this birthright thing, we were discussing with Rick Scott the other day, there's no excuse for Republicans not to be putting upper down votes instead of these big omnibus monstrosities. You could have upper down bilts on individual things like your idea. Sorry, we just can't let pregnant women into this country if it's going to be taken advantage of, and you can you can add layers to that, because if you say they're not allowed to come here, you have a reason for a criminal prosecution if someone lies to come into the country.
01:14:41
Speaker 3: About that.
01:14:41
Speaker 6: So you can say, Okay, your child's a US citizen. Supreme Court says so, but you still committed a crime to create this US citizen here. Pay US five hundred thousand dollars to pay for all the obligations we owe to this child now, or we could take your kid, or there's so many ways that we can mitigate the damage of this. And there's no excuse for Republicans not to at least hold votes about this, to get Democrats on the record and Republican Republican rhinos on the record about what they really believe about our country and its citizenship laws.
01:15:11
Speaker 14: Well, and the other part of this conversation is people have concerns about AI. So again, I'm sureman a cyber infrastructure protection, which includes part of AI. And people are worried about jobs, they're worried about the economy. Before nineteen sixty five, we had a quota system. We were allowing the people in that we wanted in. They had something that we wanted or that we needed. And so we've got to get back to this idea that we're only allowing people in that are contributing to society. So you look, under Joe Biden, you had roughly two hundred thousand Afghanies came into this country. Some of them are on welfare, over seventy two, seventy three percent get free healthcare. Meanwhile, we've got veterans killing themselves at a rate of twenty to twenty two a day.
01:15:55
Speaker 11: I have to choose.
01:15:56
Speaker 14: Between veterans in illegals or Afghanis. I'm always going to choose Americans. I'm always going to choose our veterans. You have kids in the third grade, they can't read right and do arithmetic, and oh, by the way, an important stat for prison are the kids that exit the third grade and cannot read right and do arithmetic. We have a generation to save, and that generation is American born, American bread and they love the red, white, and blue.
01:16:19
Speaker 11: It's not some.
01:16:20
Speaker 14: Illegal from Ethiopia or Mexico or China that hates this country. And I'm not going to apologize for that. I never never will.
01:16:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, nor should you. I mean completely agree on all the above.
01:16:31
Speaker 4: And it's like you're looking at this rise of the DSA commis the Bolsheviks are coming.
01:16:36
Speaker 3: It's right right.
01:16:37
Speaker 4: And for the Republicans out there that are celebrating this thinking this is some good thing, no, this is a terrible thing. This underscores and reveals a rott in our country that is decades in the making. We've printed ourselves into oblivion, sending money to far funk places and fighting stupid wars, and now the chickens are coming home to roost, and we've imported a permanent third world underclass that hates this country and wants to see the capitalist system which may this country so amazing. They want to see it brought down and destroyed. And so we've got to get serious about it. There are so many five alarmed fires that it's impossible to name all of them. But what I will tell you is that what you are doing, Congressman, and moving the overton window.
01:17:15
Speaker 3: We need.
01:17:15
Speaker 4: We need at least two hundred and thirty, just like you, and we need at least sixty of them in the Senate. But if we can't get sixty, let's get at least fifty and we'll we'll we'll get it through somehow, reconciliation, whatever we got to do. By the way, I'm hearing some rumblings that there are some there are some good creative ideas about getting the Save America Act through via reconciliation. They're gonna they've got some creative ideas. So we appreciate everything that you're doing. This is the fix everything switch. We need to digest these tens and tens of millions of foreigners and assimilate them properly. And we got to stop these anchor babies. So God bless you, sir, Thank you, thank you, thank you for continuing to push on this most important issue.
01:17:56
Speaker 14: Well, thank you so much, and to everyone watching, enjoy the worth, be safe, and God bless America.
01:18:02
Speaker 4: Amen, God bless you. And that's a good way to end it. Two point fifty. Celebrate this country, be grateful, have gratitude, say thank you to the Lord who has had his providential hand on this country for two hundred f.
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