The Left's "Temporary" Amnesty Weapon + Where's The Beef?

00:00:03 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. 00:00:05 Speaker 2: I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. 00:00:24 Speaker 1: College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as. 00:00:28 Speaker 2: Young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA college chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. 00:00:45 Speaker 1: Here I am. Lord, use me. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. 00:00:56 Speaker 2: Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of The Charlie Kirk Show. a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments.com. That is noblegoldinvestments.com. 00:01:17 Speaker 1: All right. Welcome, everybody. September 3rd, 2026. We're here in Phoenix, Arizona at the YRefi Studios. How are we doing, Blake? 00:01:24 Speaker 3: We're doing great, especially because of what we were discussing this morning. We are six days out from... A very momentous change in our immigration policy. 00:01:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right. I wasn't actually sure where you were going with that, believe it or not. You know, this is one of those weird days in the news where we have this big wall of monitors over here so we get to see all the different news channels that are going on. And there is quite literally a different headline on all of them. So CNN's covering the fact that, you know, Musk is about to open up his spending to help Republicans in the midterms. We've got Fox talking about California judge tossing DOJ girl sports case. 00:02:04 Speaker 3: Vice President Vance is going to host a White House press briefing. 00:02:07 Speaker 1: You know, the Young Turks is talking about terrorism in Gaza. You know, there's all kinds of things going on. Then we got the Lindsay Clancy trial heading into day six. So there is lots of different various news items that are percolating and circulating. But what's interesting is there is nobody, as far as I can tell, they're talking about what Blake just mentioned. And I want to make sure that you are aware. And that is in six days, a 25-year and running temporary protected status for El Salvadorans after the 2001 earthquakes in that country is going to finally expire. Now, you're probably wondering, what earthquakes? Exactly. Nobody remembers. But these people, almost 200,000 of them, have been legalized to stay and remain in the United States for 25 years on a TPS designation that was originally given 18 months. 00:03:05 Speaker 4: It's amazing. 00:03:06 Speaker 3: I went and I looked up the original press release. This happened in the first few months of the George W. Bush administration, before 9-11 even happened. And there's just these incredible quotes in it. The designation was made by A.G. 00:03:19 Speaker 4: John Ashcroft. Even then, they admitted up to 150,000 people. 00:03:22 Speaker 5: Acting. 00:03:24 Speaker 4: Immigration and Naturalization Service, I guess, do we. 00:03:27 Speaker 1: Still have INS? No, we got rid of it. Yeah, we got rid of it. 00:03:29 Speaker 4: So, office that doesn't even exist anymore. 00:03:32 Speaker 3: Marianne Wersch says, The habit caused by these earthquakes makes it extremely difficult for Salvadorans to return home safely at this time. Given that reality, granting them temporary protected status is the prudent and humane thing to do. And they have a bit where they describe, you know, there's thousands of injured, thousands of homes destroyed. 00:03:53 Speaker 4: These factors have clearly resulted. 00:03:54 Speaker 3: In a substantial, but temporary, disruption to living conditions in El Salvador. 00:04:00 Speaker 1: All right. So local NBC news station has been covering this. And it's exactly how you would assume it would go. Very much about sob stories, about why this is so mean. Play Cut 12. 00:04:17 Speaker 6: An estimated 170,000 members of our community nationwide may need to leave the country as early as next week. That's how many Salvadorans living in the U.S. with something called temporary protected status will have to go if that TPS is allowed to expire. It includes people like Daisy Gonzalez. 00:04:34 Speaker 1: It would upend everything. I'm a homeowner. 00:04:37 Speaker 5: I am a partner at a political consulting firm. 00:04:42 Speaker 4: A lot of people depend on me. 00:04:44 Speaker 7: And it would just completely upend the lives of. 00:04:48 Speaker 2: So many people. 00:04:49 Speaker 8: Self-deport or risk everything that. 00:04:52 Speaker 6: I've built here. She's been documenting the uncertainty she faces now on social media. 00:04:56 Speaker 1: She came to the U.S. 00:04:57 Speaker 6: As a toddler, and her family qualified for TPS after an earthquake hit their native El Salvador. TPS has allowed them to legally live and work here for decades, but unless Congress or the Trump administration takes action, those protections are set to expire on September 9th. 00:05:12 Speaker 3: First of all, they suddenly have to say it that way. But this is just it's such a perfect example of this extremely sinister left wing nonsense they do. It's called temporary protected status. It plainly exists to deal with a situation like you cannot safely fly into your country right now because there's been a natural disaster. or a military invasion, like something actually temporary has happened. 00:05:39 Speaker 4: And then they drag it out. 00:05:40 Speaker 3: They've extended it, I think, 11 separate times in the case of El Salvador. El Salvador, and then they'll turn around. 00:05:47 Speaker 4: And they'll say, they've put down so many roots here. It's too cruel for you. It's too cruel. 00:05:52 Speaker 3: For you to end the program that we cynically manipulated and extended because we just wanted, by whatever means necessary, to get infinite people here, and they're going to blame President Trump for this when it is your fault. It is your fault because you strung these people along for a political objective. 00:06:09 Speaker 1: And it was never meant to be temporary, is what you realize. Temporary protected status is something that the Trump administration is doing great work on. They're rolling it back. Enough sob stories. They're ending it one by one. So we heard a lot of noise about the Haitian TPS being revoked. And you even saw Governor Mike DeWine, who's a Republican in name only, saying that this is really harsh and these people are really good for the economy. And that's what you'll always hear. They'll always lean on the economic arguments. It doesn't matter about what it does to local communities, what it does to our rule of law or sovereignty, but there's something more sinister. And I want us always to remember this. This is an intentional project of the political left in this country. Blake, I think, said one of the most profound things. Don't listen to this. I don't say nice things very often. The other day, and he said that the political left in this country is a replacement project. They want to replace the body politic with new voters. They want to replace the institution's with socialist ones. They want to replace the American way of life with a socialist way of life. Every which way you can imagine, it is an ideology that despises what we have in this country, and they want to replace it with something made in their image, some utopian unicornia that will never exist. And they want to replace you, the voters, SOP 14. 00:07:30 Speaker 9: Texas is a very, very Republican state, but some people say the demographics are changing and the demographics alone will make that, it won't be so Republican next time around. 00:07:41 Speaker 8: In a couple of presidential cycles, you'll be on election night, you'll be announcing that we're calling the 38 electoral votes of Texas for the Democratic nominee for president. It's changing, it's going to become a purple state and then a blue state because of the demographics, because of the population growth, of folks from outside of Texas. Oh, no, I think that's right. But it's not going to happen on its own. The demographics are changing, but it's going to take a lot of work from Democrats to lay the infrastructure for change. So we're very busy working on that now. 00:08:11 Speaker 1: Oh, the demographics are changing. Oh, you see that? That's the Castro brothers, former darlings of the political left. I'm sure they're still around making some problems for us. But this is the whole game. They want democracy. 200,000 El Salvadorans to have a bunch of kids and they want a bunch of Somalians and they want a bunch of insert third world nation here. Now what's really infuriating about this is that when it comes to El Salvador, Bukele's El Salvador is now the safest country in the Western hemisphere. 00:08:45 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:08:45 Speaker 3: I was also, yeah, I was looking at their murder rate in back in 1995, it was 125 murders per 100,000 people. That's like worst neighborhoods in the United States for a whole country. When they did this temporary status, it was about 60 to 65. 00:09:01 Speaker 4: They went through. 00:09:02 Speaker 3: Multiple waves of drug war where it went down and spiked to new highs. And now, yeah, it's lower than America's murder rate. 00:09:08 Speaker 1: They keep going, these Castro brothers. Stop 15. 00:09:11 Speaker 8: To answer your question about Texas, I believe that within the next six to eight years that what you're going to see is the acceleration of that state into a purple state. 00:09:22 Speaker 4: For two reasons. 00:09:23 Speaker 8: The growth of the Latino community that is growing faster than any community. 00:09:29 Speaker 1: See? It's all about being humane. What about humane for us? What about humane for Americans? They don't care about that. They just want raw political power. And God bless the Trump administration and DHS for taking TPS off the table for yet another country that obviously can go back home. 00:09:53 Speaker 2: What do the Democrats want? They want full and complete destruction of the United States of America. They do not want a better country. They do not want you to live in a better tomorrow. They want to overwhelm the system and radically transform it. As Barack Obama said, as one of the last things he said before he got elected president, we are only a few days away from fundamentally transforming this country. Let me ask you a question. Do you fundamentally transform that which you love? Do you turn to your wife and say, I can't wait to fundamentally transform you? You conserve that which you love. That is why we call ourselves conservatives, because we have gratitude and love for this country that we did not build, but we inherited thanks to the grace and the glory of God. They want to destroy it. 00:10:36 Speaker 1: Charlie had a way with words, man. He did. Do you turn to your wife and say, I want to radically transform you? 00:10:42 Speaker 2: No. 00:10:43 Speaker 1: You don't, which is funny because you probably. 00:10:45 Speaker 3: Would admit that it does radically transform you. You just don't you just don't do it in the way the left wants to do it. 00:10:52 Speaker 1: Here's a really important stat that I want everybody to understand, because, again, you've got you know, we saw there's a debate. Some of you might have seen it on social with I think Brandon Strack is leading it about America first versus MAGA and has MAGA. Betrayed its voters, I guess, is the question. And they're debating about Iran. You've got Alex Jones on one side. You've got Andrew Wilson and Will Chamberlain and Gerald from, I think, Stephen Crowder's show. And they're saying, no, everything's going well. And then the America First crowd is saying, it's not going well because of Iran, basically. And everybody wants you to focus on that. Now, I have critiques about Iran. I'm not happy about some of the way that that's been handled or that it's continued on. I get it. I think a lot of you share that concern. We want to see gas prices come down, especially before early votes start going up. But to say that nothing is getting accomplished is a complete bastardization of the truth. Let me show you one data point that I will point to. This is beyond the fact that TPS is getting taken away for Somalians and Haitians and El Salvadorians. 00:11:54 Speaker 10: 187. 00:11:56 Speaker 1: This is new data. This was published today by the Center for Immigration Studies since January of 2025. When President Trump took office, data shows an unprecedented drop of nearly 3 million, 2.9 to be exact, decline in the foreign-born population. That would be naturalized citizens, lawful permanent residents, long-term temporary visitors, and illegal immigrants. 3 million. Do you see that graph constantly going up, up, up? Didn't matter which president. You want to talk about the Uniparty? That's what it is. Each president, more and more and more foreign-born population in this country. 00:12:30 Speaker 8: Boom. 00:12:30 Speaker 1: Boom. First drop we've ever seen in my lifetime. 00:12:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's an accelerating drop. 00:12:35 Speaker 4: It's $ 2. 9 million in less than two years. 00:12:39 Speaker 3: That undoes all of Barack Obama's first term. If he gets another $ 3 million, it would undo all of Obama's second term. 00:12:47 Speaker 1: And it. 00:12:49 Speaker 4: Every reason to believe. 00:12:50 Speaker 3: It would accelerate because we don't have any more illegals coming in. We have a pretty big dip in the number of legals coming in. It's just going to these things build on themselves. That's why Biden's term was so devastating. He just opened the floodgates for so many people and letting in tons of foreigners fuels bringing in more foreign. 00:13:08 Speaker 6: Right. 00:13:09 Speaker 1: Business chain migration. They put down roots. They also have a lot of babies. They tend to at least. So that's a problem. So here's here. Let's show you a list of all the TPS designations as of January 20th of 2025. So this is right when Trump took office. One ninety four. So obviously we just talked about El Salvador, which was established in March on March 9th, 2001. You see that bold. But here's some other ones. Nicaragua, January 5th, 1999, a Hurricane Mitch came through and it doesn't have as many people, but three thousand people. All right. Honduras goes back to 1999, also Hurricane Mitch. Sudan, that goes back to November of 1997. And the oldest of them all is Somalia, September 1991. 34 years of temporary protected status. 34 years. Now, the two big ones right there are going, if you're looking at it, it's going to be El Salvador, which is a huge 170,000 people. Haiti, which just got rolled back, which was 330,000. Praise God for that, that that one's getting rolled back. Venezuela. Do we have data on what's happening with this Venezuela one? 00:14:22 Speaker 4: I don't know off the top. 00:14:23 Speaker 1: Six hundred and five thousand people. Six hundred five thousand people got TPS starting in March 2021. We need to look. 00:14:32 Speaker 3: These ones are such big because they're illegal immigrants, but they're the most taxing illegal immigrants because they're illegals who are out. 00:14:39 Speaker 4: They get work permits. It makes them. 00:14:42 Speaker 3: Eligible for a whole battery of extra stuff and special treatment. And on the flip side, it does mean that when you revoke it, it's easier to get them out, actually, because. 00:14:52 Speaker 4: We know exactly where they are. 00:14:53 Speaker 3: They actually usually have to leave quickly. They aren't embedded in these quasi-legal arrangements the way someone working as an illegal roofer or an illegal construction worker might be. They're working in schools. They're working in health clinics. They're working in places where we could employ Americans in those jobs, and they're suddenly realizing, oh, we have to do that. We might have to raise our pay to actually get Americans to do it. 00:15:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so just to give you an update on the Venezuelan, I don't know why I forgot this. They were rolled back. So both Venezuela TPS designations, the 2021 and the 2023, have been terminated by the Trump administration. Most beneficiaries lost their protection in 2025. So there is still a limited group that has work authorizations based on a court order. But all of those are getting rolled back. And by the way, people are taking those self-deportation, $ 3, 000 stipends, free airfare home. You saw this with that young Texas boy from El Salvador, Liam, that all the Dems made a big story about. His dad was offered a free flight home. He took it. They went back home together. These are huge, huge generational wins. And to Blake's point, if we keep them rolling, we're going to get our country back. That's how big of a deal it is. 00:16:10 Speaker 3: By Thanksgiving, TPS will be ended for every country. It looks like the last one is Lebanon. They lose it in November. 00:16:16 Speaker 1: God bless them. These are huge wins. No administration has ever had the. 00:16:20 Speaker 4: Guts to do it. And no one's covering it on the news. 00:16:23 Speaker 1: And there's not a single headline anywhere on the news. Allow me to ask you a quick question. 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And I'm going to have the team cutting that up so we can play a little bit of it for you. But I want to throw this up here really quick before we bring on Graham. This is the graph. We talk about, you know, replacement theory is just a replacement. And we play those clips from the Castro brothers bragging about replacement. This was, I guess, a poster or some sort of note on the back wall from Mark Potok. He kept a chart on his office wall literally titled Non-Hispanic Whites Proportion of the Population, tracking the decline of white Americans toward minority status like a doomsday countdown, or in his case, a celebration of white minority status in the United States. This is what they care about. This is what they spend their nights thinking about. 00:18:50 Speaker 3: Everything is about, I mean, they'll call them minorities, but basically the absolute second that whites are 49.9%, it's going. 00:19:00 Speaker 4: To be the majority. 00:19:02 Speaker 1: It's going to be Christmas. 00:19:03 Speaker 3: We have to respect the majority of the country. They love to do, one of the lines they already use in a lot of places is global majority. So they will say, you have to respect the global majority. You can't have your own country that your ancestors settled, built, The only homeland you have. You have to submit to people who have a backup homeland. 00:19:23 Speaker 1: Yep, exactly. All right, without further ado, Graham Allen joins us. His new book. I want everybody out there to go buy this and support Graham. Graham is one of the fighters. He's one of the good guys. Stand, fight, win. Graham, welcome to the show, my friend, and congratulations on your brand new book. 00:19:42 Speaker 10: Thanks, guys. Thanks for having me. Yeah, I am wearing the same shirt I was for that news hit you were just talking about. I'm doing the. 00:19:50 Speaker 12: gauntlet thing of the book launch right now and so but thanks for having me it's always an honor. 00:19:57 Speaker 1: Well your subtitle our battle for the soul of America this is like I mean I just feel like Charlie would be really proud of you because he had the right wing revolution book that was looking forward trying to say hey This is how we get our country back. And you actually started writing this book before everything happened with Charlie. Tell us the story of this book, how it came to be, what happened when Charlie was killed, how you changed it and what it's about. 00:20:23 Speaker 12: Yeah, well, one, it's you know, I just kind of got goosebumps a little bit that you mentioned Charlie's book, Right Wing Revolution, because I posted a photo. 00:20:32 Speaker 10: Of on my story. 00:20:34 Speaker 12: Cause you, you know, when you write a book and it, it goes everywhere, you go out to try to find it in a location or whatever. And the first location we went to me and Alyssa, we found it. It literally is right next to Charlie's, uh, right wing revolution book. And, and I don't know, I just, again, it's all my stories right this second. I'm pretty sure. But, but, but I actually posted that I should have sent it to you, but I, but, but I didn't. Um, Yeah, so that was a bittersweet moment. Yeah, this book is interesting. 00:21:07 Speaker 10: So I was challenged. 00:21:08 Speaker 12: I was challenged to write a book that isn't just ranting Graham talking about the problems and talking about what's wrong. And I was challenged. ironically to be more like Charlie. That's true story. 00:21:22 Speaker 10: From the publisher. 00:21:23 Speaker 12: I was challenged to be like, all right, all right. Everybody knows what the problems are, but, but what's the, what's. 00:21:29 Speaker 10: The actual plan? What's the actual mission moving forward? 00:21:33 Speaker 12: And so I actually started writing this book in June of 2025. And then obviously we, we all know what happened a week from now will be a Yeah, it radically changed the book. And so chapter one, there it is. Yeah, yeah, great job to your team right there. Yeah, that's the image. That's the first bookstore I found with it in there. It was right next to Charlie, which was really cool. But the book started one way. Charlie was martyred in front of our eyes. And then when I turned this book in, it was 80,000 words when I turned it in in January. 00:22:16 Speaker 10: Uh, the publisher immediately wrote back. It was like, fantastic. We're going to have to cut about 27,000 words out of this book. And you're a bit angry in this book. 00:22:27 Speaker 1: And so, uh, that's what you're famous for though, Graham. That's fine. 00:22:32 Speaker 13: It is. 00:22:32 Speaker 12: But, but, but, you know, I told you when we launched the pre-order that, and I even say this in the book, I intentionally left the chapters that I had written for pre-Charlie being taken from us, I left them the way that I had originally written them, because unfortunately, a lot of the things that I had talked about that I was seeing that this was going, unfortunately, on September 10th, 2025, I was proven. 00:22:58 Speaker 10: Right in that regard. 00:22:59 Speaker 13: And so. 00:23:02 Speaker 12: This book is a call to action. And I believe that's what Charlie would want from us right now. We all see the divide. We all see the fighting. We all see the evil that is going on. 00:23:13 Speaker 10: But if we lose in November.... 00:23:16 Speaker 12: How short of a memory we have to what we fought our way out of in 2024. And they're going to come back even stronger and worse than ever. And so this book is a battle cry. I call it a Paul Revere moment from coming out of the admin, working in the Pentagon shocker to all the conspiracy theorists out there. 00:23:37 Speaker 10: I even put it in the book. The, the, the, The. 00:23:43 Speaker 12: Rot and the decay in our government is real, and we need to win this election cycle, the next one, the next one. And the book does have a very sombering tone in the fact of a lot of people believe that we just got to win one election. 00:23:59 Speaker 10: And if we just win one election, then we're good. 00:24:02 Speaker 12: And the sobering reality is we are never going to be good. Every election is a vital election. Every election is another fight. to preserve the fight you just won, and then so on and so forth. So I hope that people get that when they read this. 00:24:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, in many ways, it's the burden of having a representational form of government, right? We are tasked with keeping this country going and keeping it thriving. I mean, that is our job as citizens, as Republicans. So I think it's great. And I just want to say something about you personally, Graham, and those of you out there that have followed Graham's story and followed the way that he rose up and became loud when a lot of other people cowered in the aftermath of Charlie's assassination and all the conspiracy theories. Graham didn't have to do that. It's not like, you know, it's like the conspiracy theorists out there think, oh, Graham's on payroll and we're paying him per tweet or something to defend us. No, nothing like that was at all the case. Graham came to us multiple times and kept saying, I want to fight, I want to fight, I want to defend you guys, and it was, like, honestly, when you're in that position like we were, and to have a guy like this come out of nowhere, there's nothing in it for you, Graham, at all, and to have you stand up and fight was, it's truly incredible, actually, and I know why you were doing it, because you're loyal to Charlie and loyal to Erica, and you don't fight because you know you're going to win, you fight because it's the right thing to do, and That's why this book that you've written to me stands out and why I want to help you move as many copies as you possibly can because you live the values that you preach in this book. And you have my gratitude and my admiration, Graham Allen. 00:25:49 Speaker 12: Well, I appreciate you saying that, but it was unnecessary, but it's appreciated. 00:25:54 Speaker 10: Look, it was simple. 00:25:56 Speaker 12: At the end of the day, there would be no Graham Allen for whatever that means without a Charlie Kirk. 00:26:03 Speaker 10: Charlie helped me. 00:26:04 Speaker 12: Before anyone really knew who I was, and he saw something in me, and. 00:26:10 Speaker 10: He saved me. I talk about this in the book. 00:26:13 Speaker 12: I would never have talked about it while Charlie was alive, but I talked to many people about it, and they were okay with me telling the story of how there would be no Dear America, there would be no Graham Allen if Charlie Kirk had not seen something in me and stepped in to help me win. Just what you said about me, he had no reason to do so. He just did it out of the goodness of his heart. So this book is what I believe Charlie would want us to be focusing on right now, which is the mission ahead, which is the midterms in November. A lot of evil is going on. A lot of noise is going on right now. But the midterms, we've got to win. We have to deliver. We have to show up. So yeah, my plea to everyone is please give the book a chance. 00:26:58 Speaker 10: Check it out. It's available everywhere. Books are available. 00:27:01 Speaker 12: If you want an easy way to do it, you can go to GrahamAllen.com and it has all the hyperlinks on where you can just buy it if you don't want to go get it in stores. 00:27:10 Speaker 10: I think this is my best book. This is book number three. 00:27:13 Speaker 12: I think it took me three books to figure out how to actually write a good one. Uh, and so, uh, I'm pretty proud of this one and I hope Charlie is too. 00:27:24 Speaker 1: Amen. Go to Graham Allen.com. Pick your favorite place to get a book and buy it and buy multiple copies because we need to restore a warrior ethos in the base. There's a lot of demoralization campaigns. There's a lot of black pilling, doomerism. We need that spirit, Charlie spirit, It lives on in people like Graham Allen right now. So buy the book, send it to your friends. They want to show you this new T-shirt that the team put together. You get it at Charlie Kirk's store. They just put it together for us ahead of the one year, and I think it's beautiful. We actually had a team dinner the other night, and all the team got one, which was really cool. But it's kind of a, there it is, Charlie Kirk's store. It's a Freedom shirt, but it's kind of the colors are inverted, rather. And I just think it's a great way– you know, whenever I see a Freedom shirt out there, I get– it, like, touches my heart genuinely. And you'll see them in the most, like, random places too, like the shopping market or wherever. And you'll just see people rocking the Freedom shirt. And this is kind of a cool take on it, and it's a way to honor Charlie. So we'd be honored if you guys would check it out at charliekirkstore.com. The team's doing great work there. So do check that out. We are joined by Graham Allen– And Graham, you had this great hit. I just you were so poised. It was so great. Moral clarity. What I come to expect from Graham Allen is just perfect moral clarity. I think you have a way of it. Charlie was like that, too. Actually, he could see something. He was just like, this is black and white to me. And sometimes that would hit you and be like, oh, but that was kind of the special sauce that he had, too, because he didn't parse his words. He didn't hit you with it softly or try and like. use language to kind of launder in some radical idea. If he believed it, he would just say it. And that's how I think of you two, Graham. I mean, that is a great compliment, by the way. Sod 18. 00:29:14 Speaker 10: That is hate. 00:29:16 Speaker 14: You know, one of the reasons that that attorney. 00:29:18 Speaker 3: For the Kirk family just said that is because the defense... made a decision yesterday to attack Charlie's character. 00:29:25 Speaker 12: I remember turning around going, did he just say what I think he just said? And I talked about this on my show. Here's the thing. You can debate whether or not, and yes, Tyler Robinson deserves his right to a fair trial and trial by jury and all that. But what is not up for debate is that Charlie Kirk is the victim. You can believe all these crazy conspiracies that are going on online. 00:29:49 Speaker 10: You can believe whatever you want. The trial's going to happen now. 00:29:52 Speaker 12: But what's not debatable is that Charlie was brutally murdered in front of the world. And for that For that lawyer, if you want to call him that, to go up there and attack the victim like that, I don't think I've ever seen anything like that with his widow sitting behind him. 00:30:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then, Graham, you go on to talk about how small that courtroom is, which I now have a new appreciation for. It is a very tight space. It feels like you're breathing the same air as Tyler Robinson, candidly, and his defense counsel, and you are right there. So when these guys are attacking Charlie, or during the preliminary hearing where Mr. Burt The other attorney said something about– attacked Erica. 00:30:32 Speaker 3: He was saying Erica was like holding press conferences, that she treated the prosecutors as her legal team. 00:30:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, but people don't understand, A, how emotional that courtroom is in person and how tight it is. You had an experience for a whole week during the preliminary hearing. Tell us about it. 00:30:49 Speaker 10: Well, yeah, I think I said that. It's all blurring now. 00:30:52 Speaker 12: I think I said that on the hit with Dana was that courtroom is– so small. And so Tyler Robinson is maybe 10 feet. 00:31:03 Speaker 10: In front of you. If depending on the day, they would switch it out. 00:31:07 Speaker 12: So Erica and all of us that were with her would be on the front rows one day, and then they'd switch it out for Tyler Robinson's family and then so on and so forth. 00:31:15 Speaker 10: So I don't know if you guys. 00:31:17 Speaker 12: Were in the front rows on the day that you guys were there Tuesday or not. But if you were, then Tyler Robinson is maybe 10 feet in front of you. And then when they're at that podium speaking, there may be 12, 14 feet away. 00:31:31 Speaker 10: Maybe, maybe. 00:31:32 Speaker 12: And so I can't imagine what you felt. I know that I, I was so upset that I couldn't make that day, but now I'm glad because, Andrew, I'm telling you, you, Erica, everybody, I don't know if I would have been able to control myself on that one. It was one thing, and it was terrible how they went after Erica, but then, again. 00:31:58 Speaker 10: What's not up for. 00:31:59 Speaker 12: Debate, no matter what you believe, whether you believe Tyler Robinson's a patsy, whether you believe, like I do, that the evidence shows Tyler Robinson did it, although he deserves his trial. No one is arguing that. Or whether you believe it's ancient Sumerian alien technology. 00:32:15 Speaker 10: That saw into the future. Whatever you believe. 00:32:18 Speaker 12: What's not up for debate is that Charlie Kirk was brutally. 00:32:23 Speaker 10: Assassinated in front of the entire world. He is the undebatable victim. So is Erica and his children. But no matter what you believe, Charlie... is no longer here. 00:32:38 Speaker 12: And for that attorney to get up there and essentially say, I mean, let's not church this up. 00:32:43 Speaker 10: He was essentially saying, well, you know, Charlie was kind. 00:32:45 Speaker 12: Of asking for it at the end of the day, because Charlie was this hateful person that hated Mr. Robinson and his lifestyle and his sexuality and this and this. 00:32:54 Speaker 10: And now I, I don't know what I would have done if I had been in the courtroom. 00:32:59 Speaker 1: I don't know. And I, you know, and I'm telling people that when you get into court, The judge reminds you a couple different times throughout the day, no gestures, no head nodding, no pins on your clothing, no expressions of anything. You sit there and you stay still. And in that moment, none of us could. We all just, like, started, you know. I mean, it was a shocking moment. But what else was shocking was just how bad of lawyering it was. Because he's basically saying, we don't know that he killed him for his political expression, but he did say really hateful political things. And we do know that he did say hateful things about people like you know, Tyler Robinson and his gay lovers. 00:33:35 Speaker 3: It's so baffling, and this guy's been around so long. I mean, we talked to Andrea Burkhart, and she said, I think it literally is, this guy has just been, he's a left-wing anti-death penalty crusader, and he just forgot his place, but I'm just not sold on that. 00:33:49 Speaker 4: I feel like these guys, they know what they're saying. He said it repeatedly. 00:33:53 Speaker 3: It wasn't him, you know, awkwardly misspeaking one sentence. He said, hateful, hateful, hateful, repeatedly, different instances. I just think These guys are sinister. They want to plant the seeds. They want some juror to come in and be like, I don't think we should execute somebody when the person he killed was a hateful individual who had it coming a little bit. 00:34:15 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and one of the things that I noticed in that courtroom, Graham, was all the conspiracy theory stuff, just it melts away. When you're in that courtroom and they're dealing with the actual ballistics, the DNA, the surveillance evidence, the confessions, like you're sitting there, you're like, oh. Oh, I get it. All that noise, it feels completely absent from that courtroom, which is why we have courtrooms, which is why we have this process. But it is taking a long time. And, I mean, I know you have thoughts about this too, so I'll give you the floor one more time on your book and your final thoughts here, Graham. 00:34:54 Speaker 10: Well, yeah. 00:34:54 Speaker 12: I mean, the fact that we are essentially a year since Charlie was taken from us and we still don't even have an actual trial date. 00:35:02 Speaker 10: It's beyond me. I get it. 00:35:04 Speaker 12: But good Lord, at what point, at what point is enough is enough, but, but, but either way, thank you for the, for, for the time, please consider going and checking out the new book, Stan fight. When, uh, our battle for the soul of America, this book is, it is a tribute to Charlie because. 00:35:21 Speaker 10: It turned into that. 00:35:22 Speaker 12: Unfortunately, But it's also a book that I feel like Charlie would have wanted me to write. It is a book about putting all the noise aside, remembering what we're fighting for, which is this country, which is the greatest country the world's ever known, and why every battle for victory is a battle for victory. So go to GrahamAllen.com and go get the book. 00:35:45 Speaker 10: Thanks, guys. 00:35:46 Speaker 1: Amen. Thanks, Graham. Liens, levies, wage garnishments, bank account seizures, those aren't just words. That's the IRS taking what you've earned, your paycheck, your savings, your retirement, even your home, and it's accelerating. IRS notices and letters are up more than 85% in the last two years. If you or your business owe back taxes or you have unfiled tax returns, do not wait. Call American Tax Group, the nation's leading tax firm, at 888-381-3816. Here's what the IRS is counting on. That you'll do nothing. That you'll put it off for one more week. But understand, you could wake up tomorrow morning and find your bank account frozen, levied overnight, just like that. 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You talk about this with us. Did you know that more than 7 million Americans aged 65 and older are living with Alzheimer's? 7 million. I had no idea it was that big. So it's roughly one in nine adults in that age group. Globally, over 57 million people have Alzheimer's or some other form of dementia. So it's not only impacting the people diagnosed with this awful disease. It's awful. But it's devastating the lives of their family members and the people that love them. So I wanted to show this clip to show you just how quickly the decline can occur with Alzheimer's. 00:38:10 Speaker 5: Place. 22. 00:38:12 Speaker 7: Early onset Alzheimer's can affect people in their. 00:38:14 Speaker 11: 30s and 40s. 00:38:15 Speaker 7: Rhonda was just 52 when the signs started to surface and officially diagnosed at 56. 00:38:23 Speaker 5: She started to repeat herself all the time, started asking the same questions over and over again, wouldn't answer simple questions like what time it is. I mean, as it turns out, she couldn't tell time, that she had lost the capacity to tell time. 00:38:37 Speaker 7: Just before their 40th wedding anniversary, Rob knew it was no longer safe for his wife to live at home, so he placed Rhonda into memory care. 00:38:47 Speaker 5: Finally, the brain shut down enough for nothing else where she just forgot how to swallow, forgot how to eat. And I'd like to think, and it seemed at least at the time, peacefully passed away after a long, tough battle with this dreadful disease. 00:39:05 Speaker 4: Early onset Alzheimer's, that's a three-word horror story. 00:39:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nightmare fuel. So I wanted to bring on somebody you guys have seen before, Ellie Hirsch. She's a senior health advisor from BrightCore. She knows this stuff inside and out to talk about this with us. Ellie, welcome back to the show. It's good to see you. This story that we just played is heartbreaking, but it apparently is not uncommon either. 00:39:30 Speaker 14: Yeah, it's good to be back. Thanks for having me again. 00:39:32 Speaker 15: You know, the story about Rhonda Sutherland, it's so sad. Every time I watch that clip, it just makes me tear up. And this is just one of so many who have suffered this heartbreaking loss from dementia and Alzheimer's disease. But the really frightening thing is it's not just affecting older people like we saw. 00:39:52 Speaker 9: Right. 00:39:53 Speaker 15: So early onset Alzheimer's affecting people in their 30s and 40s. So I just turned 50. So the idea of losing any mental functionality anytime soon is terrifying for me. And, you know, reports show spikes such as three hundred and seventy three percent of an increase in diagnoses among 30 to four year olds. and a 311% increase in 45 to 54-year-olds in the U.S. 00:40:21 Speaker 14: In recent years. 00:40:23 Speaker 15: So again, 57 million people worldwide are living with Alzheimer's or some form of dementia. And I think it's important to point out that many people conflate the difference between dementia and Alzheimer's. So dementia is really more of a broad term for a set of symptoms like memory loss, impaired thinking, behavioral changes that interfere with daily life. Whereas Alzheimer's disease is a specific and progressive brain disease that's responsible for dementia, probably in 60 to 80 percent of cases, which is caused by the damage and death of the brain cells due to sticky protein buildup. And, you know, many people don't even realize that they're suffering from dementia because they miss the early signs. You know, it's short-term memory loss, right? It's repetitive behavior, asking the same questions or telling the same stories over and over, kind of getting lost, right, or forgetting the date and struggling with daily simple tasks. 00:41:21 Speaker 14: And I think for years, you. 00:41:22 Speaker 15: Know, the medical establishment viewed the brain as an island, right, separate from the rest of the body. And when doctors are targeting brain diseases, they often prescribe medications in an effort to directly target the brain. But they're forgetting about the root cause and treating the symptoms instead of curing the problem. So neuroinflammation and oxidative stress are two of the primary contributors to loss of cognitive function, and that leads to degenerative neurological diseases like Parkinson's, Alzheimer's. And oxidative stress is an unequal balance in the body between the harmful, unstable molecules called free radicals and helpful protective molecules called antioxidants. We've all heard of that. So there was a stunning scientific breakthrough. It's reshaping what we know about Alzheimer's disease, and it's very exciting. 00:42:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're talking about this link between the microbiome and Alzheimer's, which, again, I'm a big believer that everything starts in your gut. Every single health outcome, I mean, maybe not every single one, but darn near everyone. I mean, a lot starts with your gut. Throw that graphic up again. Alzheimer's, A groundbreaking experiment reveals a direct link to the microbiome. What does this study reveal to us? 00:42:40 Speaker 15: So researchers, they've managed to transfer symptoms of the illness to healthy rats simply by transplanting gut bacteria. So this discovery really could revolutionize how we diagnose and treat one of the world's most devastating forms of dementia. And what we eat has a tremendous impact on our cognitive health. It impacts our levels of inflammation and oxidative stress that I was just talking about. 00:43:06 Speaker 14: But more importantly, there is a direct. 00:43:08 Speaker 15: Link between the gut and the brain, and it's known as the gut-brain axis. This intricate biodirectional communication network links your gastrointestinal tract directly to your central nervous system. 00:43:20 Speaker 14: Think of it like a. 00:43:21 Speaker 15: Highway between your gut and your brain involving nerves, hormones, and immune signals. It's where they're constantly sending messages and it affects mood, digestion, stress, even cognitive function. So the chemistry of your gut microbiome directly dictates your mental health and cognitive function. I like to say, and you've probably heard this before, that the gut, think of it as your second brain. So talking to your actual brain and it influences everything from anxiety to appetite. And when your gut ecosystem is thriving, it produces essential neurotransmitters like the serotonin and the dopamine, the hormones that are responsible for feelings. 00:44:01 Speaker 14: Of happiness and well-being. 00:44:03 Speaker 15: So in fact, 95% of your serotonin is produced in the gut before even making its way to the brain. So a well-balanced gut microbiome. Also, it reduces a systemic neuroinflammation that clouds your thinking. And you honestly won't believe what recent research tells us about how simple lifestyle changes can make all the difference. 00:44:28 Speaker 1: Well, Ellie, I think the first time you were on, I told you about this Atlantic article that I had read that was about basically why your dad could eat a Big Mac and not gain weight and you can't. And I think it was a 2013 article or something like that. But it really got me thinking on this track, and it was all about It's crazy. 00:44:48 Speaker 3: Apparently we just have studies at this point that we can find people who have the exact same lifestyle and eat the exact same thing as someone from 1982 are 15 pounds heavier or something like that. 00:44:58 Speaker 13: No. 00:44:58 Speaker 1: So I'm telling you, if you are not a believer yet, please, please, please think about your, your gut microbiome and your gut. It's so much of your health outcomes will come from that. And I think about it too. You sometimes like eat terrible food at night or something and, you can't think as well the next day. I mean, this is the same concept of drinking too much alcohol or something, and you literally get brain fog. So Ellie, you were saying that a recent research study has shown it's very simple. Lifestyle changes can actually change these health outcomes when it comes to cognitive health. Tell us about that. 00:45:33 Speaker 10: 100%. 00:45:35 Speaker 15: You know, we've talked about how inflammation and oxidative stress are the two leading factors causing this cognitive decline. But now it's been discovered that there's an even bigger one. It's a sticky protein fragment called amyloid beta. And it builds up in the brain and it blocks the neurons from making those connections and speaking with each other. And this is what causes Alzheimer's disease and other forms of dementia. So normally the brain will clear these proteins away. But in dementia, amyloid beta can kind of clump together and they form these plaques between your brain cells. And these plaques are what interfere with communication between your neurons. it triggers inflammation, and may eventually damage or kill brain cells. So over time, this damage is what affects the memory, the thinking, your reasoning, your mood, your behavior, and most importantly, your ability to perform daily tasks. And so the research indicates if we can remove the amyloid beta plaque, we can essentially prevent Alzheimer's disease and dementia from occurring, right? So drug companies have spent Billions of dollars over the past few decades trying to find a way to remove these plaques from. 00:46:46 Speaker 14: The brain, right? 00:46:49 Speaker 1: We have a clip on this, actually, Ellie. 00:46:51 Speaker 10: Oh, good. Great. 00:46:53 Speaker 1: Sat 23. 00:46:54 Speaker 16: The whole point about Alzheimer's was now we have a genetic group of people that definitely have this beta amyloid. So all the research then focused on what drug, because that's how the pharmaceuticals make money. What's crazy is that I think there was like six or seven drug companies and they were all trying to find this antibody or some drug. cure for this beta amyloid and nobody ever found it. I think Biogen sank $ 18 billion into looking for this drug on this one immunotherapy, Aduhelm, and they were sure that that was going to do it. They submitted it to FDA twice and they turned them down in 2019. That tells me If you have five drug companies that have been looking at it for 20 years for something that will stop beta amyloid and nothing has ever worked. 00:47:43 Speaker 1: That's not very promising, but hopefully you've got some good news for us. 00:47:47 Speaker 14: Yeah, you know what? 00:47:48 Speaker 15: All these big drug companies haven't been able to achieve with their billions of dollars spent. It can actually be accomplished with a centuries old superfood. 00:47:59 Speaker 14: We know it as kimchi. 00:48:01 Speaker 1: OK. 00:48:01 Speaker 15: Have you seen the study about kimchi and its ability to improve cognitive function impaired by amyloid beta? 00:48:09 Speaker 1: Well, I believe we have that graphic graphic for if you can, the cognitive memory function. 00:48:17 Speaker 15: Basically, it's, you know, bioactive compounds in kimchi improve the cognitive and memory functions. impaired by these sticky guys called amyloid beta, right? So as we just said, amyloid beta is the key marker of Alzheimer's disease. 00:48:32 Speaker 14: Here, it's up right now. Got it. 00:48:34 Speaker 15: And despite all the money spent by big pharma, this is the one thing that has been shown to actually be effective And kimchi, it's not only demonstrated the ability to improve cognitive abilities and memory performance, but also mental health with things like depression, anxiety, but it doesn't stop at the brain. 00:48:55 Speaker 14: So there are so many. 00:48:56 Speaker 15: Health benefits proven by numerous studies from consuming kimchi, right? You have your cardiovascular health, your lower cholesterol, your triglycerides, your blood pressure regulation, you. 00:49:07 Speaker 14: Have immune health. 00:49:08 Speaker 15: Kimchi doesn't only strengthen the immune system, it's also antimicrobial, meaning it's antifungal, antibacterial, antiviral, and antiparasitic. It even has positive impacts on our appearance, like the quality of. 00:49:22 Speaker 14: Our skin and hair. 00:49:24 Speaker 15: It is so effective that pharmaceutical giants like Cell Biotech and NST Bio, they've actually signed a deal with the World Kimchi Research Institute to turn kimchi into pharmaceutical products so they can make money off of. 00:49:38 Speaker 14: Something we already have. And the reason kimchi. 00:49:41 Speaker 15: Is backed by a multitude of research and real-life success stories is because it has over 900 unique strains. 00:49:49 Speaker 1: Of beneficial bacteria. Compare that to like sauerkraut or some of the other places people get when you think of probiotics or whatever. It's like significantly more, correct? 00:49:59 Speaker 14: Significantly. So sauerkraut has only... 28 different strains. Okay. 00:50:04 Speaker 15: So you have your 28 and your 900, you know, obviously any fermented food is good for you, but nothing, I mean, nothing is going to stand next to kimchi, right? 00:50:14 Speaker 14: It's just the king of fermented foods. And, you know, I do hear from everyone, oh, I'm eating sauerkraut, eat yogurt. 00:50:20 Speaker 15: I don't need to eat kimchi. I have other fermented foods and that's great. 00:50:24 Speaker 6: Right. 00:50:24 Speaker 15: But again, no other fermented food comes close because it's all about that microbial diversity. So the best thing you can do for your health and longevity is to consume kimchi. So the key to getting all these benefits from kimchi, though, is daily consumption. 00:50:42 Speaker 14: And that's why we created Kimchi One. I am so passionate about it. 00:50:47 Speaker 15: And whether you like the taste of kimchi or not, it's not something that is easy to eat every day, right? 00:50:52 Speaker 14: It's not in our American staple. 00:50:55 Speaker 1: I count myself among those people. I can't stand it. What's wrong with you? This is great. Fermented food is awesome. 00:51:01 Speaker 15: I had it last night. I had it last night with my seared tuna. It was delicious. 00:51:06 Speaker 14: But I would have to eat like pounds and pounds of. 00:51:08 Speaker 9: It, right? 00:51:08 Speaker 15: So what we do is we use a cold process drying method so it retains all the fiber and nutrition of actual fermented kimchi. Ours is low in sodium, unlike store-bought, by the way, 100% made. 00:51:20 Speaker 14: In the USA, all natural, non-GMO. 00:51:23 Speaker 15: But the one thing and the reason why I'm so passionate is because of the success stories about Kim Chi Won. 00:51:28 Speaker 14: People who've had. 00:51:29 Speaker 15: Problems with digestion and bloating, they are regular now. Within a week of taking this, I will tell you my genes buttoned up a lot easier and just feel better. People who had problems with their immune systems, Used to get sick, but they're not really sure why they aren't getting sick anymore. 00:51:45 Speaker 1: Ellie, there's a great stat on on kimchi and like weight loss, because I know that there's a lot of people struggling with weight out there. I was just at a very public place and I noticed it. Americans struggle with this a little bit. What's the stat on it, though? There's like if you take kimchi regularly. 00:52:01 Speaker 15: So there's actually a study that showed that kimchi helped reduce body fat by 31.8% in overweight individuals. 00:52:09 Speaker 1: And by the way, I will tell you, you will notice this particular part. I think a lot of people, if you take kimchi one, the bloating and the gut, like that. I don't know how long you should take it for, but it really works. You guys, I'm such a big believer. I'm telling you, dear audience, the gut is... central to everything. If you're a Maha fan, if you're like everything RFK says, you're clapping, Alex Clark, I'm telling you, gut health is health, okay? And we have something for our audience here, right, Ellie, specifically? 00:52:43 Speaker 14: Oh, yeah, so absolutely. 00:52:44 Speaker 15: Today, you can get 25% off your order of Kimchi One just by clicking the link below and using code CHARLIE, but I do suggest you call, and that number is 888-317-9258. Because you're going to get up to 50% off your order, plus free shipping and the first 100 callers. You're going to get a free bottle of Fortify with your order. And let me just tell you, Fortify is fabulous. It contains all nine essential amino acids to protect against cellular damage. It helps retain muscle mass, boost hormone production, and support brain chemistry. 00:53:17 Speaker 1: Call 888-317-9258. 00:53:18 Speaker 13: 888-317-9258. 00:53:18 Speaker 1: Thank you, Ellie, so much. We appreciate you. There are 31,407 kindergartners starting school this month who wouldn't be alive if it hadn't been for what Preborn did in 2020. That's an amazing number, 31,407. That's how many babies were saved that year because of the gifts of ultrasounds from people just like you. Backpacks, lunchboxes, five years of love because a young woman chose life for her baby. When a woman in an unplanned pregnancy sees her baby on that ultrasound, And here's that baby's heartbeat. 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I've been telling you he's coming on because you have probably seen that a controversial plan from the Trump administration to import foreign beef has got a lot of people upset. OK, this came through. Yeah, it's one of the few issues I've seen. I mean, probably second to Iran that has gotten people this worked up. A lot of the Maha stuff. I told you we're doing a whole hour on Maha. And this is Ben Spell. He is a good friend, a dear friend. And he's here to talk about this issue because his whole business is supporting American ranchers. He's the CEO of Good Ranchers, and they do a great job. Benjamin Spell, welcome back to the show, my friend. Good to see you. 00:55:32 Speaker 17: Hey, Andrew. Thank you so much for having me on today. 00:55:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. It's great to see you, man. All right, so let's throw up this Politico headline. Trump in purgatory. A White House plan to lower beef prices is dividing the president's supporter. Many ranchers and Republicans... argued that boosting imports won't tangibly lower beef prices in the short term in a rare break with the president's policies. Now, I think it's safe to say that, in general, you've been supportive of Brooke Rawlins, what they've done at the Department of Ag. It's sort of reversing years of decline in this. But explain the problem, because it is multifaceted. You've got fertilizer costs. You've got the lowest, I guess, American herd size in... history and generations so what is the problem and then explain what the white house is trying to do. 00:56:21 Speaker 13: Here yeah you know i was i was i thought about this this morning i was on the show maybe two months ago with you guys and i don't i'll remind you and the listeners i remember saying two months ago to you and to the listeners now is the time more than ever we need to be supporting our farmers and ranchers um they've been overlooked this is not a new issue and I'm so glad that it's making national headlines now, but we've been shouting this from the rooftops for the last seven years, and this has been a problem over a decade in the making. So I think the president is absolutely right about addressing the problem because beef prices are too high for American families, and we need relief. But importing our way out of a historically small cattle herd is not a long-term solution. And again, if we don't support our own farmers, our own ranchers here in America and give them incentive to rebuild the herds, then we're just going to keep going in circles. So I think the president is right to address the problem. Beef prices are way too high. But this 90-day just increasing imports, which by the way, we've been importing The 300,000 metric tons that they announced, you know, everybody kind of is all in arms going, oh, my gosh, we're importing meat. Well, we imported over 4 billion pounds of beef into the U.S. just last year. And we've been importing over 3 billion pounds for the last six years. So this is not anything new, but it's something that we're very much aware of to the general public now. 00:58:10 Speaker 1: So just to give everybody the backstory here, it says President Trump signed a proclamation on August 26, 2026, temporarily expanding the U.S. tariff rate quota on imported lean beef trimmings. So used to blend with domestic beef or ground beef for 90 days starting September 1st. So we're in it now. Up to 300,000 metric tons, 100,000 per month, can enter at the lower in quota tariff rate instead of the much higher out of quota tariff. Exporters are expected to sell it at a 25% discount to the current price. The stated goal is to increase ground beef supply and ease higher consumer prices while the U.S. cattle herd remains near multi-decade lows. So the question is sort of twofold, Ben. Will this actually lower prices? And will this have a detrimental effect on American ranchers? It seems to be the answer The second question is obviously a yes, right? 00:59:10 Speaker 17: Yes. 00:59:10 Speaker 13: Well, here's the thing. There's no mandatory country of origin labeling law in the U.S. for beef or for pork right now. And it's been that way since 2015 when it got repealed. And again, this is our entire messaging that we've been shouting for years is we need to bring back mandatory country of origin labeling for beef in the U.S. Because right now, the foreign beef gets imported into our system and there's no transparency and it sits equally alongside the American beef. So if we really want import to lower prices, then it needs to be labeled. It needs to be clearly labeled where it's coming from, what's in it, how it was raised. And until that happens, we're really, we're just putting a Band-Aid on a bullet wound. Again, importing beef is something that we've done for a long time and it is a part of our supply chain. But the reason we're in the predicament that we're in is because there's no mandatory country of origin labeling law for that imported beef. 01:00:24 Speaker 17: And so. 01:00:26 Speaker 13: Until we can get that reinstate it um it's just it's a it's a complete guessing game and what we've learned over the last two weeks especially i mean we've been flooded with comments from from people um and you know americans want to buy from americans and americans want to support american farms and ranches um so you know now is the time to support your local farm and ranch and if you know if you If you live next to a ranch, if you know somebody that sells beef directly to consumer, we should be supporting those people. 01:01:07 Speaker 3: So this is presented by the administration as a temporary measure. There's been a price spike. It's not even really a gradual rise that's finally gotten noticeable. It just does seem to be a big upward jut. Probably is meant on some level to... alleviate a viral price increase ahead of the election. But what's a long-term policy? Let's suppose they really do want this to be temporary. What's a policy they could pass now so that in two years, we don't need to be implementing any special import rules so that we can. 01:01:44 Speaker 1: I'm not saying we actually need to right now. 01:01:46 Speaker 4: No, I shouldn't even say need. 01:01:47 Speaker 3: How do we just make it so this is not even in consideration in 28? 01:01:51 Speaker 13: I don't want to oversimplify it, But if we would bring back mandatory country of origin labeling, the COOL law, if we would implement that, that would make a huge difference. 01:02:03 Speaker 17: In the market. 01:02:06 Speaker 1: Ben, didn't you tell us last time that if it's something like 90% of Americans, if they knew that they were buying American beef, they would pick that beef, right? 01:02:14 Speaker 8: Yes. 01:02:15 Speaker 13: Every year, the National Organization of the American Meat Conference organizes the North American Meat Conference, they do a study. 01:02:25 Speaker 17: And it's the most vast study done on consumers. And it's for grocery. 01:02:31 Speaker 13: Shopping, online shopping, all of the meat grocery shopping in the U.S. And the number one thing that consumers are looking for, especially when it comes to beef, over grass-fed, over organic, over no antibiotics, which all of those things are great, But the number one thing that consumers have said for the last five consecutive years is country of origin labeling. They want to know that it's American beef that they're buying in American stores. And right now, we do not have the ability to know what we're buying at the grocery store, whether it's coming from an American farm or it's coming from Brazil or South America or Mexico or anywhere else in the world. And you can't build American beef independence by making American ranchers compete with tariff-free foreign beef that consumers can't identify. 01:03:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's so obvious, I think, to us listening. And I can't believe they ever got rid of that in 2015. What's causing this low herd size, though, Ben? 01:03:37 Speaker 17: There's the. 01:03:40 Speaker 13: Natural things, like we've had kind of historic years of drought and cattle need water. You know, cattle are not widgets. You can't just push a button and get more of them. And you're talking about an animal that has a minimum of a two-year life cycle across multiple seasons. So the price of everything has gone, you know, through the roof over the last four years. So when you have Increase in feed, increase in fuel, and also a lack of water. That makes it really hard to grow your herd. But the big issue is our ranchers have been overlooked for the better part of the last decade. And so for them to hold on to cattle to build their herd, means that they have to forego selling them right now and making a profit right now to invest in the future. And they have not been incentivized, nor have they been prioritized by not just this administration, any administration over the last decade. 01:05:03 Speaker 17: That's interesting. 01:05:04 Speaker 1: So, Ben, you're saying that basically, because if you have a herd, right, you're facing a choice at some point. Do we butcher them and sell them, or do we keep them so they can have more cows? 01:05:17 Speaker 4: That's really interesting. Bring that up, yeah. 01:05:20 Speaker 1: It's a very simple thing to assume, but you're either going to be financially incentivized to grow that herd, or you're going to be financially incentivized to send those to a feedlot and get some money from that, right? And that's got to be a tricky balance. 01:05:35 Speaker 13: So they've been choosing to sell— rather than to rebuild because the average age of. 01:05:46 Speaker 17: A rancher in the U.S. today is 62. 01:05:52 Speaker 13: And so they're getting close to retirement age and they're going, I don't see light at the end of the tunnel. We've been overlooked for years and not getting the support that we need to keep building these herds. So they've been selling, selling, selling. 01:06:11 Speaker 1: Here's two graphs, though. You mentioned these briefly. Here's 204. This is the price of diesel, Ben. Look at it over time. 204, it's obviously very high. And so we could talk about what's driving the price of diesel. But we know all energy costs are high right now. And then we have this other one, the price of fertilizer, I believe, is, yep, 203. 203 is the price of fertilizer. So these are... Look at that. 01:06:39 Speaker 3: You can see that gigantic spike. I think that's exactly when Russia invaded Ukraine. 01:06:44 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. You can see it over the years. So these are cost drivers that are impacting cattle ranchers all across the country. But any type of meat that's being produced, that's going to filter down into the price of the meat that you consume. So I have sort of two questions. Why are we importing so much beef and meat? You said it's like millions of pounds or billions of pounds even? 01:07:08 Speaker 17: Billions, yeah. 01:07:10 Speaker 1: Okay. Is it possible to roll that back as opposed to ramping it up? If we do that, is the American cattle industry, are we ready to meet the demand if we do that? What's the right answer here? 01:07:22 Speaker 13: Yeah. Again, imports are a strategic part of our system, but they should never be. 01:07:35 Speaker 13: The fix all for our system and they should not undermine. 01:07:40 Speaker 17: The American ranchers. 01:07:42 Speaker 13: And for the last decade, since we've not had country of origin labeling, they've been undermining the American ranching production. If America decides we need to import more beef temporarily to supplement supply, that's okay. But American families should be able to look at a package of beef and know whether that animal was raised in Texas, Montana, or Mexico, or Brazil, or Argentina, and let the consumers make the choice. And right now, that's not the thing. Yeah. 01:08:13 Speaker 1: So what's the status on that? I know you're working behind the scenes. You're trying to get this accomplished. I want to help, actually. I come from a cattle ranching family. And weirdly enough, I'd never thought of that just trade-off. Do you butcher your cattle, or do you leave them to have more babies and grow your herd? I just had never actually thought about it that simply, which is sort of ridiculous, but that is the trade-off, especially as you're getting older, you're looking to cash out and, you know, you're not really like planning for the long-term. So the question is, what do we do about, I mean, how do we get more young ranchers? Is that something that is an initiative somebody's taking on? Secondly, how do we incentivize this industry to grow their herd size? 01:08:54 Speaker 13: Yeah. So we need to make cattle production attractive enough for for new producers, younger, these, these next generations to come on and we need to, and we need to let them know because plain and simple, the market is so volatile. And, and I was talking to a rancher on Monday out of Wyoming. And I mean, he was, upset isn't even is an understatement. And I mean, he was, he had all of his cattle loaded up, ready to go to market. And when the, when the president made that announcement, the, the, the price of the whole, you know, it's a commodity and everything, the price just dropped. So, so low that he knew that if he took them to market, he would lose money on them. And these are, and these are animals that he's had for the last two years, taking care of day in day out, uh, raising these animals and it's time to take them to market to sell. And they're below market value there. He's literally going to lose money, um, on, on every head that he would sell. So he waited, he waited a week hoping that the price would, would rebound. 01:10:09 Speaker 17: Um, and it didn't. 01:10:10 Speaker 13: And then he had, then he was faced with this choice. I don't have enough grass to keep feeding these animals. So I've got that. He had to move them. I talked to him again yesterday and he's in, he was, he was really upset. Cause he's like, I just, I just took them. I just sent them out to the, to the market and I'm just praying. 01:10:32 Speaker 17: I break even. 01:10:34 Speaker 13: And not even, you know, he's not even praying. He makes a profit at this point. He's just praying that he breaks even. So if we're going to rebuild the herds, we have to give, to our ranchers that there's going to be profit for them two years from now, three years from now, five years from now, which would allow them to hold on to those cattle. 01:10:55 Speaker 17: We need to reduce unnecessary barriers. 01:10:58 Speaker 13: And costs for American producers, and we need to expand and protect the domestic processing capacity and competition, which is another completely. 01:11:11 Speaker 4: I wanted to ask about that. 01:11:13 Speaker 3: The other day, President Trump said he was open to, or not open, he was vowing he was going to open up the process. He says, for years I have heard about the tremendous problem with the big processors. He had that in Trump capitals. Many say are a nasty monopoly. There are essentially four of them, a very non-competitive number, and they make life miserable for our wonderful farmers everywhere. 01:11:39 Speaker 4: And ranchers. 01:11:40 Speaker 3: I am authorizing legal documents to be drawn in order to allow farmers and ranchers to be given the right. 01:11:45 Speaker 4: To process their own food. This should move quickly. 01:11:50 Speaker 3: Is that getting towards a policy that would be helpful for lowering your costs, increasing your profits, allowing us to get bigger herds? 01:11:58 Speaker 17: That's a five to ten year process at minimal. 01:12:03 Speaker 13: Again, I do think it's a step in the right direction, but there's Again, when you go back to the big four that he's talking about, two of those are majority foreign owned. 01:12:15 Speaker 17: They're not even American owned. 01:12:18 Speaker 13: And between those four, they have all of the major retailer contracts. So even if American ranchers could process themselves, they still wouldn't have. 01:12:34 Speaker 17: An outlet for the meat. 01:12:38 Speaker 13: Like you've got to just because you can process it, you still have to have a way you have to have someone to sell it to. 01:12:43 Speaker 17: And we've been so backwards for so long. 01:12:52 Speaker 13: Yeah, it's not it's not something maybe we can move quickly on policy, but it's going to take years to. 01:12:58 Speaker 1: But we still have to make those changes. 01:13:00 Speaker 9: Right, Ben? 01:13:01 Speaker 1: I mean, we still have to. 01:13:02 Speaker 13: Yes, it is absolutely a step in the right direction, but it's not going to magically change things overnight. 01:13:08 Speaker 3: I feel like this is just a good demonstration of how much of a long view you have to take on the economy that even agriculture, you think of that as an annual thing. But no, this is two years to build out a herd, five years to build out processing. The fact that the ranchers are old, so they want to cash out their herds. 01:13:26 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:13:27 Speaker 1: And by the way, it just perfectly aligns with Charlie's messaging. You know, work in the trades, go work on a ranch. Like we want to inspire young people to take up these kinds of careers because it's the bedrock of the country. And we didn't even get into national security. What happens if there's a war or pandemic? We need to be able to produce our own ranch, our own beef cattle. Good ranchers dot com. This wasn't a plug spot or something like that. But support Ben as he supports us. American ranchers. It's more important than ever, guys. It's so critically important. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.