The Left's Modern Bolsheviks Attack Minneapolis Churches

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Yes, yeah. 00:01:28 Speaker 3: It was quite entertaining. 00:01:29 Speaker 4: It was a great game, and I so having lived in California, I found like my flesh was like trying to root for the Rams, but then I wanted the Bears to win for Charlie. So I was very It was very It was a weird experience, but. 00:01:46 Speaker 3: I don't think Charlie could ever make me a Bears fit. 00:01:49 Speaker 4: Well, fair enough, but I was pulling for the Cubbies that didn't happen. 00:01:53 Speaker 3: You know, Cubs were okay. I was okay with the Cubs. 00:01:55 Speaker 4: I was pulling for the Ducks that didn't happen. I was pulling for the Bears, and sadly that didn't happen. Although the late heroics from Caleb Williams to get that game tied up right there at the end was amazing. Actually that he ran twenty five yards back twelve, it was like, well, yeah it was. It was crazy because he ran twenty twenty five yards back. And the other thing that was crazy about this weekend was you had all these games in the snow, right, you had the Bills games, you had the Chicago game, and you know, and then you had all this stuff in Minneapolis. It was like in a country that seems increasingly defined by the sun built and the warmer climates, it was like the whole country was fixated on snowy environs. 00:02:36 Speaker 3: And then the NFL is getting rid of all of them. 00:02:38 Speaker 4: That's really late, that's really We're building's more dome every time a new stadium, like the new Chief Stadium is going to be a dome, which is a mistake, big mistake, big mistake. And that sort of in a roundabout way leads us to the lead story today. Now there's stuff going on in Greenland, there's developments in Iran. All of that stuff is important. We will get to it. But I was horrified, truly, truly disgusted actually in what happened in Minneapolis. And of course what we're talking about is what happened at Cities Church in Minneapolis when Don Lemon tags along with a group of far left agitators and I would say communists even and by the way we're Bolsheviks. And this is what one of the things I want Blake to explain to the audience is, I think increasingly the best analogy for what's going on in Minneapolis. But you've seen it in Portland, You've seen it in la You've seen it in all these cities. You've seen it in Atlanta when they you know, went after the police training facility. You see it with this Antifa front groups and these these street gangs. They are neo Bolshevik Bolsheviks. And one of the things that Bolsheviks did is they targeted Christian churches. 00:03:54 Speaker 3: Every time, every time, every time. It's the background here. So it's if you really just go into history, probably one of the most defining features of radical left political movements from the French Revolution two hundred and thirty years ago on down into really the present is they'd call it anti clericalism, anti religion, anti clergy, anti anti churches, anti Christianity. And so the Bolsheviks are the most notorious one. They blew up when they seize power, they blew up churches. They would execute priests, they would execute nuns, they would they would humiliate them in a lot of ways. There's a fun history of the Russian well, okay, not a fun a good history of the Russian Revolution. 00:04:39 Speaker 4: They would preface that by all histories. Yes, yes, history. 00:04:45 Speaker 3: So for example they would they would you torture priests and then make them do mock debates with atheists where they would admit that they were liars or wrong about everything, although sometimes the priests would not go along with it. There was a very The reason I said it was fun was this priest was made to argue about whether God exists. And so the priest asked the guy, where did reality come from if not for God? And the Bolsheviks said reality and life evolved itself into existence. And the peasants who were watching thought this was so stupid. They immediately voted the priest the winner, which was not the way the shy were supposed to go. But there's always this spectacular violence in countries you're not even familiar with. Mexico one hundred years ago had a revolution, huge amount of violence against religious and churches. Spain nineteen thirties they had a civil war, tremendous amounts of violence against priests, and they would execute nuns, they would rape nuns, they would loot these churches of all of their valuables and say that these are being hoarded against the poor, when really, a beautiful church is one of the things that it's one of the most beautiful things the poor have direct access to. That's a church that has beautiful things belongs to all the believers. It's not that belongs to the church. And it's just a recurring thing that happens over and over and over again. And so it's not terribly surprising that in Minneapolis, as we get left wing agitation against police, against the public, against passerby, essentially that this would also turn into agitation against churches and against Christians. And as I said online yesterday, this one was unarmed. But if they thought they could get away with doing it while armed or using violence, I think they would because they have for hundreds of years. 00:06:31 Speaker 4: Well, and this is what's so infuriating. I completely agree they would have. They will absolutely do this. You are watching happening in real time. If you start piecing some of these clips together. Like Jennifer Welch, who's a like a very awful, disgusting, deplorable person. She is a nasty woman, and she she's you know, you see increasingly that they are showing their hand that they want to imprison us, they want to prosecute us. And then you've got Lahman here who thinks that this is somehow justified. This is his First Amendment rights. He doesn't understand the law because harmit. Dilon is now on record this morning saying that this was one hundred percent a violation of the Face Act, which protects places of worship, which protects people to be free to go and refuse to pray. So people are gonna get charged. The only question is how many, how severe the charges are going to be, and so forth. And this guy is a washed up media anchor who got fired from CNN. He is cosplaying as a activist and he doesn't know how to do it, and he thinks that he somehow protected from consequences because he's a journalist. And I would say Don Lemon, who basically gloried in the fact that you've got to make people terrified, You've got to traumatize people. 00:07:52 Speaker 3: That's what protests is all about. That's what he said. 00:07:54 Speaker 4: I hope you woke up this morning, Don Lemon, terrified in the knowledge that federal charges are likely coming for you. 00:08:00 Speaker 3: Let's show let's show the clips here, which which order do you want to do it in? 00:08:04 Speaker 4: Well, I, you know, I think we just started two twenty. Let's get it where he's outside with these protesters Operation pull Up is what he calls it. Two twenty. 00:08:12 Speaker 3: They're in the middle of the church. 00:08:14 Speaker 5: So in the beginning of the church service, the pastor was speaking and Nichema stood up and set her piece, and then the protesters surrounded her. But this is a clandestine mission. I think they found out one of according to them, this is according to Operation pull Up, that one of the pastors here is a member of ICE. 00:08:36 Speaker 4: And so okay, you can hear them just shouting the bile, the vitriol, that the the anger just spewing out of these people's mouths. And by the way, we're gonna have Megan Basham on at the second half of this hour, and she's done research on some of these protesters. Many of them have been arrested for this before. And so now you've got to ask yourself, well, if they're they're getting out and they're doing it again, then maybe they're not getting you know, charged and in prison long enough. But this is this is crazy. So he starts talking to the pastor here, and the pastor I thought did a beautiful job. To twenty six. 00:09:08 Speaker 3: This is unacceptable, it's shameful. 00:09:11 Speaker 5: It's shameful to interrupt a public gathering of Christians in worship. 00:09:18 Speaker 4: But there were folks. 00:09:20 Speaker 3: I have to take care of my flock. There's a Constitution in the First Amendment to freedom of speech and freedom to assemble a protest. We're here to worship. We're here to worship Jesus because that's the hope of these cities. That's the hope of the world. 00:09:33 Speaker 4: That's the pastor is a beautiful Yeah. 00:09:35 Speaker 3: It's actually a pretty insightful view of the left wing attitude that they always believe they have the right to kind of do what they want. We have the freedom, freedom of assembly, freedom to protest by bursting into your church, the heck there's something your event, the heckler's veto. It's just like whenever they would attack our events on campuses, even before the tragedy, just they would blame you know, they would blame Charlie. They would be turning point, they would do a riot and they'll have to come out and look what you made us do? Yes, assembly, there. 00:10:06 Speaker 4: Has never been a more entitled, pretentious, disgusting group of protesters, adjutors, agitators. You will never find one. The entitlement is truly through the roof, and it's disgusting. President Trump walked into a catch twenty two when taking office. Do nothing in America would be staring at a ticking debt bomb, the kind of crisis that could cripple our future. Instead, he's taken action with strong policies to slow the train and buy us some time. But the effects of past administration spending are still working through the system, and experts predict dramatic price increases and market uncertainty. 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You know this Axios piece that we're losing the polling battle on immigration. 00:11:35 Speaker 3: It's just too intense. 00:11:36 Speaker 4: I was texting with Mark Alprin, who we're going to get back on the show, and this Joe Rogan esque sentiment that oh, his masked agents, well they're getting docksed, okay. And secondly, you see this where there was a big bust of child predators in northern Virginia right before Abigail Spangberger, the new governor, comes into power. Now Democrats control all of Virginia. And what was the first thing they did. They cut off cooperation with immigration enforcement. So there's a big drug, big bust of child predators. The next day they cut off. So you should just be clear like. 00:12:11 Speaker 3: They do this because Abigail Spanburger wants more rapists in your country. Abigail Spanburger, much like members of the Biden administration, celebrates internally when she sees the story about someone from Central America or someone from Africa or someone from the Middle East who kills an American child, rapes an American, rob's an American. She wants that to happen, period, straight up. Nothing they do make sense without accepting that premise. Yeah, Virginia's toast and we're gonna talk about that. It's probably lost for genera. I don't want a blackpill on you. 00:12:42 Speaker 4: But what they are doing, it's the wildest thing, and it contrasts with the effecklessness of the GOP. We can't even redo maps in Indiana, and what do they do in Virginia. Instantly they do ten to one maps in a state that Kamala took by six points. They are now going to be ten demic in the House versus one Republican. So Republicans, you can keep wi'son out, you can keep putting your head in the sand and acting like this isn't a war for the future of this country an existential battle, and then you get you get these people going into churches in Minneapolis like they own the place. Absolutely disgusting display. But this is what I would say, full full circle on my point, Axio says, the polling isn't going our way on immigration enforcement. Well, then you have Don Lemon doing a gift for all this, giving us a gift because it's so disgusting. Uh, let's go ahead and play. Uh, this is a this is this is amazing. Don Lemon's even acknowledging how traumatic this is for the parishioners. Two twenty nine. 00:13:42 Speaker 2: Chi's guy here. 00:13:43 Speaker 5: Look, Hargan is kid, and you know, I just imagined it's uncomfortable and traumatic for the people here. 00:13:51 Speaker 3: But again, careful, it's very slippy right here. 00:13:54 Speaker 5: That's what protesting is about. 00:13:56 Speaker 3: And so that's what protesting. 00:13:58 Speaker 4: Traumatizing little kids, making parents that are at church comfort their little kids. How disgusting, Absolutely disgusting. But this is the Bolshevik revolution and it's right here in front of us. It's right here in our home country. And they're gonna come for Christians because they know Christians are the last firewall to freedom in this country. They know that Christianity gives you true freedom to put the state in its rightful place, to not worship it, to not deify it, but to demand freedom that God gives us our freedoms. And meanwhile, I just can't get over it. It's the difference between the left and the right. Here get us to destroy to go into a church. 00:14:41 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:14:41 Speaker 4: But here's the other thing. If this was a mosque, Don Lemon wouldn't have been within one hundred feet of it. He would he would have absolutely understood that that is a no go zone. Not in that sense, but he would have absolutely respected the fact that when there's worshippers there, you don't interrupt them. But he does not give that same type of space or respect to Christian worshippers. And that tells you everything, because here's the thing. He knows that Christianity is a religion of peace. He knows that those people in there are going to act respectfully. He knows that after Charlie was assassinated, that we held visuals and we lit candles and we did a memorial in peace. 00:15:22 Speaker 3: We didn't burn down cities. 00:15:23 Speaker 4: He knows that we're not going to act like complete idiots, and so he takes advantage of that. He goes and walks in there like some washed up over the hill burnout from CNN, and I just I'm just so disgusted by this story. Let's keep going. He then talks to what Blake would say is the most sinister of probably of all the forces in the state of Minniapo or Minnesota, and that's Attorney General Keith Ellison. So he goes and does this church raid. It traumatizes little kids, and then he talks to the top cop in the state of Minnesota about it to twenty eight. 00:16:00 Speaker 6: I just want to be clear, the state has every right to investigate this matter and prosecute this matter. The state has every right, and you know, as a prosecutor, I'm not really allowed to make conclusiory statements before the investigations complete it, but I do want to make it clear that there is absolutely no legal barrier to the state taking action in this matter. 00:16:24 Speaker 4: So the first point here he makes is that they're going to try and prosecute the ICE agent that was involved, ICE agents, anybody that they deemed to be a criminal, which I would love to see their definition of it. 00:16:38 Speaker 3: And then he asked about the church. Yeah, that's the Rolling Stones line. Every cop is a criminal and all the centers saints. 00:16:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, exactly that's what we do. Live in upside down bizarro world now. And then he asked about the church two thirty. 00:16:53 Speaker 3: You heard what some of the folks said in there. You know that this is. 00:16:59 Speaker 7: They shouldn't be there, and you know they shouldn't be uncomfortable and this is our house and whatever. That's what protesting is about, is to make people uncomfortable. You may not like it, but I mean if they went into a church, you know, any church. 00:17:12 Speaker 4: Yeah. So now he's trying to walk it back by the way. 00:17:15 Speaker 3: Protesting is about making people uncomfortable. 00:17:18 Speaker 4: That sounds like what ilhan omar Aoc say the Bolshevik. 00:17:22 Speaker 3: It's actually so sinister because no, like, a big point of protest is to just show that a lot of people support a cause. That's the point of you turn out a million people on the national mall. That's the point of you turn out at a city council meeting, at your state legislature. You show a lot of people believe this. The point of these when you make people uncomfortable. The point of this is to subvert the normal political process using fear. And so you have to say, okay, you should actually give us what we want because you're worried the next time will shoot you. You're worried the next time will burn down your church. Don't my orraid we'll do something illegal. There was a church that was just shot up in Minneapolis by a left wing looney for left wing looney reasons. 00:18:08 Speaker 4: This is a wild clip, a crazy good pool. I want to give credit to Western Lensman for this. This was December twenty twenty five. It's not even a month ago. This is Tim Waltz saying that our side doesn't go in raid churches. We don't do that two thirty five. 00:18:26 Speaker 1: So I would fully expect, and we are preparing for an influx of more agents, more of the very visible public theatrics of the raids, of the harassments, and you got faith leaders here. I would not put it past this administration to target midnight mass services amongst folks going to worship, because that's who they are. 00:18:49 Speaker 4: Oh, that's who they are. No, Tim Waltz, that's who you are. That's what your side is doing. You desecrate churches because you're entitled, because you're ignorant, you're ill in, and you refuse to cooperate with law enforcement. These are routine law enforcement operations. Enforcing immigration law is not an option. You have two options in this country. Either cooperate with ICE and you don't have these raids, or you don't cooperate with ICE and you do get the raids. There's not an option where you just get to ignore immigration law. That's not the way this works. As America turns two hundred and fifty this year, I want to take a moment to remember that people who helped build it, not the ones in the history books, but the ones who woke up before the sun season after season without seeking any sort of applause. And those people are America's ranchers. 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And then you have you've been doing some research and some investigation into some of these players that were involved in this I want to hear it all. Megan Bash from the floor shores. 00:22:12 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, obviously, it's appalling and abhorrent to see what these activists did storming into this church. You know, I've talked to some pastors associated with this church. They're telling me that the children were terrified, that they were crying that, and I think the pastors handled it very well. But they did have to end the service early because these kids were terrorized and they couldn't continue with the service, so they shut it down, and they reconvened later that night and finished holding the service after all of these protesters left. But you know, what I think is really important to note here is that the police, the local law enforcement, did not arrest anyone, So they knew that this was happening. They were on site, they were observing, and they did nothing. So obviously this is a violation of the Face Act. It is illegal to break into a church and disrupt worship services, and yet local Minneapolis police did nothing. They said that they were trying to balance freedom to worship with free speech. But your free speech rights do not entitle you to break into churches and disrupt the services going on there. So you know, that obviously is just one more point to how lawless it has become on the ground in Minneapolis and Minnesota at large, and so clearly we need some federal authorities to go in there and take charge. And on that note, one of the guys who was a ringleader of this mob is a guy named William Kelly. He was one of the guys who was circling, if you've watched the videos online, demanding whether or not that the people in this church support ICE. He was demanding to know what they've done for their Somali brothers and sisters. And he's a paid professional agitator. He claims to be a combat veteran, and he has been seen repeatedly outside of Christ Church in DC as well, because that's the church that Pete Headgseth goes to. So he's been there harassing them weekly. And I spoke to one of the pastors associated with that church and he told me that it has become so severe that at one point they screamed through bullhorns with amplification and they actually burst a church member's ear drum with these tactics and sent him to the hospital. So, you know, one question I have at this point is how these guys are able to continue harassing churches and church members this way, and why they're not behind bars. Because William Kelly was reportedly arrested a few weeks ago in DC for this very kind of thing, for harassing DC church and he's released again and back out on the streets bothering Christians. 00:24:34 Speaker 4: Well, bothering is is a very right, that's quite the understatement. Yeah, that's a very yeah. And you know what's interesting about this though, because you are the author, of course, of Shepherds for Sale New York Times bestselling author Very Charlie loved this book. You came on and talked about it with Charlie. And one of the storylines here that I don't think people are paying enough attention to is that this was an SBC church. And you've done a lot lot of investigations into some of the leadership at SBC, and then you sent me this article from the Baptist Press and you know you've got this this crazy leaders of thirteen Southern Baptist ethnic groups stop right there? Why are there SBC leaders of ethnic groups in the first place? 00:25:21 Speaker 7: Uh? 00:25:21 Speaker 3: Okay? 00:25:22 Speaker 4: And then they go on to you know, it's it's Haitian, Hispanic, African, American, Chinese, Filipino, Nigerian, Liberian, Ganan, Korean, Burmese, Thai, and Vietnamese leaders signed a statement and they send us to Baptist press basically saying that, yeah, we you know, countries need to have borders, but we basically can't do anything to enforce those borders. We don't think deportations are necessarily always very nice, and maybe we just do fines instead. 00:25:47 Speaker 8: What is going on here, Yeah, And so that's a part of the backstory that a lot of people following what's been happening on the ground with this church in Minneapolis won't understand. So the rank and file Southern Baptist churches are typically very conservative. A lot of them will stay out of politics. And I understand that this church I've been told is not a church that's particularly involved in politics. They are not what you might think of as a culture warring church. But they do have a pastor on staff who serves as a field director for ICE, and that is why they were targeted, because they have a law enforcement officer on their pastoral staff. And the irony there is that the national leadership of the Southern Baptist Convention, though, as is the case in so many Christian denominations, are much more progressive than the rank and file and the ordinary churches, and that is the case in the Southern Baptist Convention. So you know, it pains me to say this because I am a Southern Baptist, but you're right, Andrew, we need to take a look at this because just this past April, these national leaders of the Southern Baptist Convention contributed to this false narrative about Ice, that they're dangerous, that they're terrorizing people, when certainly all they're trying to do is enforce the law and to restore order to our immigration system. So back in April, as you said, all of these quote unquote leaders of the various ethnic groups within the SBC, and this is really important, the lobbying arm, the policy arm of the SBC, which is the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, which is paid for by Southern Baptist tithes, put out a statement further creating this notion that churches have reason to fear Ice. And so you know, one of the things that they said in this statement that they released, and I'll just read you a little bit of it. Yeah, we are concerned that the current impact on religious freedom as worshippers decide not to attend worship services out of fear because federal agents will carry out law enforcement duties in church buildings. That has not happened. I want to note this really quickly. They there was all of this secular, mainstream legacy media fear that was ginned up over churches that were going to be raided by ICE. 00:28:00 Speaker 3: That has not happened. 00:28:01 Speaker 8: ICE has conducted their business whenever a church is involved respectfully with you know, staying out in the parking lot, getting permission before they enter buildings. They have done nothing disruptive. And you had the ERLC and these other leaderships within the SBC attacking ICE, even though they are the ones who have been respectful and have worked with churches, and in the meantime we see the result of furthering this false narrative about ICE and it was allowing protesters to break into buildings. They are the ones that we should have been afraid of the entire time. They are the ones who are disrupting church services, screaming obscenities in the faces of church members, and frightening kids going to their church services. 00:28:43 Speaker 4: Well, and there's reports here that I'm just looking at right now, Megan, that apparently attendants because this narrative has spread that ICE is raiding churches. Attendance at many immigrant heavy congregations, especially Latino Pentecostal and Catholic services, has dropped sharply, so they say, sometimes by a third or a half due to fear, with some pastors excusing members from mass or moving events to private and online. So these immigrant communities are intentionally avoiding going to church because this narrative has become so strongly spread within the anti ICE movement, anti immigration enforcement movement right. 00:29:22 Speaker 8: And the other part of that is that they are endangering ICE when they spread these kinds of false narratives that churches need to be afraid of ICE and Christian denominations need to be afraid of ICE. 00:29:33 Speaker 5: You know. 00:29:33 Speaker 8: The eorlc's comment on it was so appalling to me. They said that the administration needs to provide more clarity so that our pastors, churches and ministries will be free to minister. They're suggesting that ICE is preventing churches from ministring, and that is flatly not true. So I hate to say it because I am a Southern Baptist, but what the Southern Baptist leadership has done here contributed to what we saw at Cities Church in Minneapolis. So you know, what I've I would love to see is some of these leaders come out and actually apologize and repent and say we were irresponsible in our language, and we were irresponsible with this statement in how we addressed ice and how we characterized ice. So I think if they did that, that would send a huge message that one they recognize that they made a mistake, that they slandered ICE agents, and that includes this pastor who teaches at Cities Church, because what they are suggesting is that ice is dangerous to Christians, and it is absolutely not. That is not true. They have not done anything that should have sparked a statement like this, So you know, there is sort of this terrible irony in the fact that this is how SBC national leaders have been behaving at the same time that you have rank and file churches that are in the SBC being targeted by these left wing progressive agitators. 00:30:51 Speaker 4: Well, and it's it. Yeah, this this statement goes on again. This is from the thirteen leaders of the ethnic groups within the fact, which is just hilarious that this is even a thing. But it says we call on our Southern Baptist leaders to stand firm for religious liberty and speak on behalf of the immigrants and refugees. It says we ask that consideration be given to their paying a fine and or other penalty in lieu of deportation. 00:31:16 Speaker 3: So I mean they have been pro amnesty. 00:31:19 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm like they the national leadership of the SBC has been backing amnesty policies for a long time now. And you know, not to plug my book, but if you want to know a little bit more about that, part of the reason they've been doing that is because they're involved with left wing NGOs that are funded by George Soros to back those kinds of amnesty policies. They are, you know, working with groups that are part of those NGOs who receive hundreds of millions of dollars from the federal government to further illegal immigration. 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This is an exchange, Meghan, that he had with Keith Ellison after the church incident happened. And Keith Ellison, the top cop, the Muslim sympathizer that probably is getting political kickbacks from the Somali fraud ring, is here defending their right to the First Amendment to go raid a church. The top cop is unaware of the Face Act. Apparently in Minnesota two forty. 00:33:56 Speaker 7: One, we witnessed this morning the First Amendment in action with the right to peaceably assemble symbol disobedience. 00:34:03 Speaker 4: At a church. 00:34:04 Speaker 3: What do you think about it. 00:34:04 Speaker 7: I feel like there's attack on the First Amendment, on people's rights. 00:34:08 Speaker 3: They no doubt. 00:34:09 Speaker 4: Well, you know the First Amendment, Well, that's you, that's the first right. 00:34:14 Speaker 6: I mean, that's freedom of religion, that's freedom of the press, freedom of expression, freedom to redress grievances, freedom to assemble peacefully, and they are all under attack right simultaneously, all and it's deeply disturbing and I'm very worried about it. But this is a moment, you know, where we all have to stand up, and you know, there is the possibility we can have a renewal of freedom if we stand up in this moment. 00:34:45 Speaker 4: I am reaction. 00:34:48 Speaker 8: I mean, I know that Don Lemon is not the sharpest tool in the shed. I would never mistake him for an intellectual. But the idea that your free speech right to entitle you to barge into a church, to storm in with dozens of protesters, screaming at the parishioners, terrorizing their children, swearing at the pastors. No, your free speech rights do not cover that the purpose of your free speech rights is to protest to redress for government grievances. It is not to harass church members. So you know, what I would like to see happen here is I absolutely think that Don Lemon should face charges for coordinating with Democratic Operatives to break into, storm and harass members of a church during their weekly Sunday church service. I mean, that is part of what's so appalling to me is that it's not like they showed up on the grounds of this church and just protested in the parking lot outside. They busted into the sanctuary as the Sunday service was going on. So you know, the idea that something like that could possibly be legal is ridiculous. I'm actually maybe a little bit more I don't know frightened is the right word, but certainly deeply concerned that they are now trying to defend actions like this, because I think maybe just a couple of years ago, even someone like Keith Ellison probably would have condemned storming into a church like that. And the fact that they are now trying to in some way act like this was a legitimate action a legitimate protest is crossing a sort of rubicon to me that I do find really concerning that I go, if we can't even agree that you can't do this, then we are in very dangerous territory. 00:36:29 Speaker 4: I think the word you're looking for is disturbed. I'm very disturbed by what happened, the fact that they're doing this, you know. And by the way, I can just tell you an independent source is just confirmed with me. The DOJ and DHS has possession of all the camera footage from Don Lemon showing what appears to be a violation in the Face Act. So it seems like there's a whole a government approach to dealing with this and bring accountability. I hope that this happens. I think that they deserve it, and we'll see what happens, so, you know, I think that's important. Though. So there's another clip here that I just have to get your reaction to, and that is it's two to one, so if you guys want to get it ready. This is James tal Rico, who's running for US Senate in the state of Texas. 00:37:12 Speaker 3: He's thriving star, rising. 00:37:14 Speaker 4: Star because you got a white Democrat guy that's a seminarian. He's a Presbyterian seminarian. And he goes on Ezra Cline's podcast and Ezra Cline asked him, do you think Christianity is more true than other religions, and this answer just like just blew me away at how tepid and weak it was. Two A one. How do you think about the competing claims of different religions? 00:37:38 Speaker 3: Do you believe Christianity to be more true than other religions? 00:37:41 Speaker 10: I believe Christianity points to the truth. I also think other religions of love point to the same truth. I think of different religious traditions as different languages. And I've learned more about my tradition by learning more about Buddhism and Hinduism and Islam and Judaism, and so I see these beautiful faith traditions as circling the same truth about the universe, about the cosmos, and that truth is inherently a mystery. 00:38:05 Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, you know what Scripture calls those beautiful faith traditions outside of his own. It calls them idolatry. They're false religions. These are the religions that are created by the spirit of the air, which is demonic. So we need to understand that any religion that does not honor Christ is a demonic religion, and they it is a false religion. So, you know, I love my friends and other faith traditions, but I don't want them worshiping false gods, so I will continually try to draw them to Christ. And that shows you that whatever else James Tolerico is, he's not a Christian because a Christian understands that when Christ says I am the Way, the truth in the life, when he tells us that you're not getting to God through any other door, we know that that's the truth, and that's what we preach because we love people and we want them to go to Heaven and we don't want them to follow false religions to Hell. So you know, I would just say that this has clearly, definitively proved that James Tallerico is no Christian, which we already knew because he doesn't follow Christ's commands on issues like protecting the unborn, on protecting life, on sexuality and gender identity, so we knew that this was not a Christian. But I do think, and you guys can tell me what you think about this, but I think we see a growing battle culturally, and this proves that we are still a very culturally Christian nation, but we are facing a growing battle over who does Christ belong to? Because I think In the past, the left just kind of denigrated Christians and churches. But now what they're realizing is that a better method is to try to claim Christ as their own for their left wing agenda. And anyone who knows their Bible will see why that won't work. But I think they're going to increasingly try to do that. 00:39:43 Speaker 3: You know, we at the start of the show, we were discussing how attacks on churches are an old leftist practice, but that's actually this co opting of religious leaders and religious language. Same thing the French Revolution had. They imposed a oath on the clergy of and they had to swear loyalty to the revolution, and they would get these priests who would come out and they'd say, actually, church doctrine is not true. We're all loyal to the revolution, and you would do this. In the early twentieth century, they would easily find pastors who said, oh, we're going to create heaven on this earth, and actually Christ is you know, a figure of this earth, and the resurrection is a metaphor and all of that. We've had pastors like that for a long time. We've had seminarians like that for a long time. The temp I guess you could say Christ's message is so powerful that everyone does want to claim it, which is a good thing, but you have to be on the lookout for people who are going to claim it for very evil agendas in sheep's clothing. 00:40:40 Speaker 4: Yes, and it reminds me of Scott Adams actually what he said in one of his last streams where he said, you know, I'm very touched by all these Christians that are trying to get me to convert. He said, because it shows the sincerity of their own belief that they believe this is the way, and that ultimately helped lead Scott to converting. 00:40:58 Speaker 3: And do you think you got a call from James Tolerico saying, oh, actually doesn't worry about it because it's all pointed towards. 00:41:04 Speaker 4: That Islam is a religion of love and just follow that one to the to the truth of the cosmos. Megan Bash and thank you for coming on. We appreciate it greatly. We'll see you again soon. Excellent analysis. As always, we'll talk. 00:41:16 Speaker 8: To you absolutely. Thanks for having me. 00:41:17 Speaker 4: Guys. 00:41:23 Speaker 9: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.