The Donroe Doctrine and Venezuela ft. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth
The Charlie Kirk ShowJanuary 08, 202600:46:2121.26 MB

The Donroe Doctrine and Venezuela ft. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

What was it like to watch the raid on Venezuela unfold in real time? Secretary of War Pete Hegseth joins to discuss that and far more in an exclusive interview with the show. Then, pollster Rich Barris breaks down the public sentment on President Trump’s military operation. Will this lightning fast blow against and American enemy produce political dividends, or is there too much PTSD from failed interventions of the past?

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I was like, I know Rich is going to totally disagree, but I kind of disagree with you a little bit. That can make for a fun conversation. So Harry Enton is saying that there is no rift in MAGA, that President Trump was at eighty four percent of approval rate within the GOP or his bass previous Trump voters. Now he's at eighty five percent. Six months goes by, he goes up one percentage point, which is nominal, obviously, but at least it's not going the other way. It's going presumably up. And this is after Venezuela, you know, which raised some questions about our foreign policy. Maga's America first, So how does this jive with that whole vibe? So Rich, tell me why Harry Entton is wrong? What am I missing? The floor? 00:02:14 Speaker 4: Is yours so first, and for folks, maybe this was the easiest way to explain it. And as always, by the way, thanks for having me. 00:02:21 Speaker 3: Come. 00:02:22 Speaker 4: Think about the MAGA coalition like a simple Ven diagram, all right, Republican does not equal MAGA and MAGA does not equal Republican. If you looked at it like a Ven diagram, you would see in the middle, you know, all of the various groups that come together. 00:02:37 Speaker 5: But MAGA is actually made up of several. 00:02:40 Speaker 4: Different groups of people. One, you're gonna have those hardcore Republicans. They're Republicans, they vote Republican no matter what, and they also vote MAGA, and Trump has won the argument even with them. And then you have a smaller group of Republicans that they're not MAGA. And by the way, I mean, we have some public figures that pretend like they are, but in truth in the they've been voting Democrat for a while. They may vote for a moderate Republican or traditional Rhino or something, but they don't vote for MAGA. But they're overwhelmed and they're like more than offset by a group of independents and even a small sliver of orphan Democrats that only vote for MAGA and they'll only come out for America. And I don't even know if MAGA is the right way to say it anymore, Andrew, because we've had this like debate over MAGA versus America First, So the messaging is getting muddled there. But for all the time that we have been tracking it, it's you know, in theory, you know, this is Donald Trump's vision of America First, right, And I know we're debating what that means right now, right even with the President off doing things that other people disagree with. But Harry Enton, I would warn all of you he is a prime actor in what has long been a use of public polls to dupe the right, and the right falls for it every single. 00:03:54 Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, Rich Now, I remember Harry Enton in the run up to the twenty twenty four election showing poll after poll of Trump winning, of Trump being ahead in the polls, of Trump winning on this issue, that issue. And I so I'm just saying that maybe that's my memory, and maybe I'm selectively, you know, choosing what I remember and what I don't, But I do remember him, like candidly. It was Charlie's Twitter feed. It was just like clip after clip after clip, and it ended up, you know, proving to be accurate. 00:04:25 Speaker 5: He's manic. 00:04:26 Speaker 4: He goes back and forth on a twenty four hour basis the video that you the video that you reposted. Not twenty four hours before, he had just posted another video about how awful the strike polled and the public, and then he went back immediately after and did another video within a day of which is the one. 00:04:43 Speaker 5: That you posted. 00:04:44 Speaker 4: This is what they do, guys, all right, and think about it in terms of COVID, because it's like one of the best examples of what the media does and people like we call them Ovia the election mafia, right, so Harry Enton, Nate Silver, or the Larry Sabadah at the Crystal Ball, these guys we've long called on our side the election mafia. And what they'll do is they'll understate somebody like Trump's great, They'll understate Trump's approval rating way below where it really is, and then when he does something stupid that they like, they'll jack is approval rating up, like COVID shut down the government, right, and then all of a sudden you'll get polls. You know, Trump's had a majority approval for the first time ever in his administration. They did this in the first administration and it was not the smart political thing to do. 00:05:28 Speaker 5: It exposed him politically. 00:05:30 Speaker 4: Then when that vulnerability hits, they'll crash him into the thirties and the right falls for it. All. 00:05:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair. So would you would you? Would you say rich though that Trump's uh, I guess his political backing from his supporters is pretty like resilient, it's pretty stable, but it's been challenged in this first year and even even with the Venezuela strike in new ways. I think, you know, because again, foreign policy seems to be the hot button topic right It's like we don't want to focus on it, We're want to focus domestically. And then when we do, everybody scared of the neo con intervention, you know, foreign abstractions, rabbit holes that we've trailed, what we've we've followed in years passed. So where are we at right now? So Harry Enton says that actually the strike is more popular than we previously thought. 00:06:25 Speaker 4: What do you think it's Historically it's basically the most unpopular military action that of its kind. Grenada had eighty two percent, even fifty seven percent approved of the military action against Syria that Donald Trump took in his first administration in response to what we now probably you know, almost assuredly, no, we're false flag attacks right so historically compared to others, including Iran last year, by the way, which was very even you know, very evenly divided among the America. 00:06:56 Speaker 3: Where is this that according to your numbers, Rich, it's not good. 00:06:59 Speaker 4: It's negative. It's not horribly negative, but it is negative. And the reason why and this is where, like you know, a Republicans should like snap out of this like haese that they're in. Democrats are never gonna believe anything that the Trump administration says that Nicholas Maduro did. We're asking people not just about the strike, but whether or not they even believe the charges against Nicholas Maduro. And Democrats don't even believe the charges. So this idea that you could get into a solid majority who opposes this is ridiculous. I hate to say it, but we're actually really close to the Washington Post Andrew, unlike everybody else, we didn't drop the numbers right away, and there's a reason for that. 00:07:37 Speaker 5: The war drums at the time they're beating. 00:07:39 Speaker 4: War propaganda is always one of the most powerful forms of propaganda you can get. And when you initially pulled, you will get the strongest level of support. Typically then you're ever gonna see and then that support will decline over time. 00:07:52 Speaker 5: It happened with Iran as well. 00:07:53 Speaker 4: Iran initial even in some polls the strikes against Iran's nuclear facilities were pretty popular, not a and we I think we were right and they were wrong. But you can even see in those polls that no, we're more favorable to that. It dips over time. So we didn't want to snap poll it. We wanted to get an accurate reflection of how the public digested everything. The question is what comes after this, so people are going to be okay, and this is what And just so people understand, my own personal views are very different from what I think the you know, the how I think the public sees this or what they're telling us right now. My own personal view is if you can get a if you can get a guy like that out of there Andrew with a limited strike like this, you know, in a limited operation, Intel led operation, get him out of there and then bring the regime to heal, take the gold in the oil go ahead, because we're forty trillion dollars in debt and you need to back the Petro dollar. That's my view. That's Rich Barriss's view. That's not the public view. Unfortunately, they're like they have PTSD over this, brother, you understand, like they have PTSD over this. 00:08:55 Speaker 5: And the administration sold it like garbage. 00:08:57 Speaker 1: This was the easiest sell. 00:08:59 Speaker 4: Look, they stole oil a few years ago, you know, Joe. You know the Democrats were too you know, George Bush actually was the wiener here, but they were too weak to do anything about it. I'm not I'm taking it back because China and Iran can't have it, period, end of story. 00:09:16 Speaker 5: And we're not going to nation bill. That's what we're gonna do. Don't give the. 00:09:18 Speaker 4: Public some garbage rehatch version of the failed War on drugs, which they laugh at and think is ridiculous. Don't and don't insult their intelligence like that. Come out and just say be the strong man that you were elected to be. You know, we talked about this at the conference quite a bit, and especially voters under forty five, they don't care if he acts like a Franco. 00:09:41 Speaker 5: They don't care. They want it. 00:09:43 Speaker 4: They want so be that guy and don't exp you know, that's it. I'm not gonna explain myself. I personally want Greenland. Don't explain yourself over Greenland. We have the colonize space and the United States has to lead that effort. 00:09:55 Speaker 5: Guess what we need Greenland to do? 00:09:56 Speaker 4: It tough, end of story. And you don't even have to do that when military action so and the public wuldn't even care. I don't think that much about that because the question of what comes next is less of a you know, a very concerning question, right, I mean, you can leave people in charge there that obviously Western values hold our same belief systems, right, have. 00:10:17 Speaker 5: Been in the international order for a long time. 00:10:20 Speaker 4: So there's no there's a less of a danger of this, this crisis in destabilization. 00:10:26 Speaker 5: So again, I think. 00:10:27 Speaker 3: That's I think that's all said. I think that's well said. Rich My Pillow wants to say a heartfelt thank you to our listeners for your continued support. To show their appreciation, they're offering an incredible after Christmas sale with some of the best prices that they've ever had and all when you use promo code kirk k I r K right now you can get their luxurious Giza dream sheets for as low as twenty nine to ninety eight. That's pretty insane. 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I guess that struck me as a very strong claim like, how many people are involved in this decision? 00:11:52 Speaker 7: How do they do it? 00:11:54 Speaker 6: And because that's like a big swing, and I just feel, among other things, I feel like they'd probably be whistleblower from these organizations, as will you pressed to. 00:12:02 Speaker 3: This a lot of independent editorial decisions too, But yeah, go ahead, Rich, Yeah. 00:12:06 Speaker 4: I mean, the fact is that my industry is completely dominated by leftists. 00:12:10 Speaker 5: I mean, guys, I literally created the polling critic industry. It was like me and that was it for years. 00:12:16 Speaker 4: That it has grown over the years now, and thank god it has. But if you're somebody like me and you come up like, look, I think you're understating Republican shares of the vote, you get ostracized. Right, So these guys, the end in average, for instance, or the end in aggregate that he pushed the entire cycle excluded most of the polls that got the election correct, including ours. So you know, when you got to watch that little writing when he puts up on the screen underneath the ant and aggregate. 00:12:42 Speaker 5: Or whatever poll he's talking about, you better. 00:12:43 Speaker 4: Look damn close at what he's citing and where he's getting it from. 00:12:47 Speaker 5: Because all of. 00:12:48 Speaker 4: The people who not fairly but accurately have predicted the outcome of elections and the Trump era are excluded from most of enton stuff. You will never see him cite you know, of the guys who are part of our association. That will never happen on CNN. Right, So go back and look at how some of these posters fared in twenty four They know it the evidence of what they have been Look even if you are pretending that this was just you know, a difference of opinion on who should be cited and who should not be, or what kind of data collection modes make the poll more accurate, make that polster more accurate, And it's a methodological you know, discussion or debate. Even if we were going to pretend for a second that that was true, which it's not anymore. I pretended for the first five years of my career. 00:13:36 Speaker 5: It's not true. 00:13:37 Speaker 4: But even if we were to, the evidence built up over many years and it became overwhelming. They continue to do it intentionally, and no one's going to call them on it because various things going on as group think. There's being afraid to get contracts, losing a contract with the media outlet, and in the industry. Post twenty four. They've consolidated a lot so Reuter's Yahoo, CBS. They're all using the same online panel on same data set. 00:14:05 Speaker 5: As you gov. 00:14:06 Speaker 3: I believe I believe it, Rich, I believe it absolutely that they they they You know, I think Harry Enton's not as bad as you think he is, but I do think he probably you know, he plays both sides that much. I can see un tell It's very true, all right, Rich the you know, I, Blake and I have taken a pretty i would say, middle of the road approach on the Venezuela thing. I'm going to show my cards. There is something and I and I've I watched uh Mike Cernovich, who's a friend of the show, kind of give his take. Why he why he supported it. I support I supported Yeah, I support it. And I'm surprised that I support it because Charlie and I spent years railing against the military industrial complex. We're gonna have Secretary of War Pete Hegseth on next. We're gonna talk about this that I've devoted basically the majority of my adult political life to railing against the war machine. And but this is different. This is the Monroe doctrine and the way you boil it don doctrine, Donroe doctrine. Do the way you boiled it down, I thought was brilliant. We want our oil back. I'm not making excuses for it. Iran, China, Russia, you have no place in this hemisphere. Get the hell out O this is our backyard. We're not going to be suffering fools any longer. We're not going to be playing patty cake. Get out. This is our oil. We're gonna take the revenues. We're enriching the homeland, We're securing our defenses. That's why I like it. You know, obviously the proof is in the putting how this plays out. But is there a chance based on you know, where you see the base at, where you see Trump voters at, that we can turn this into a win politically? Uh? From a polling standpoint, I do. 00:15:49 Speaker 4: I think there's a way to really give the American people a vision because right now Republican's one of the main reasons they're losing. 00:15:57 Speaker 5: And we can get into some of the gripes that start and factions. 00:16:00 Speaker 4: Within the coalition have, but one of them, I would say, the main reason that they lost in twenty five and we go into twenty six with them being the underdog year. 00:16:11 Speaker 5: Is that they don't have a vision. 00:16:13 Speaker 4: They haven't given the American public an idea of what's the agenda for this year, what's the agenda for the country. And I think this is actually a really good opportunity. And I think the interview with Cernovic on Tucker was just great because I think Mike, whether you agree with him right now or not, guys, I think what Mike started to do was lay out what kind of a vision you could give to the American public and give you know, which could look. Americans are dying for something to believe in again, guys, they really are. And I'm not saying that we should start toppling governments one by one in the Western hemisphere. But Reagan understood something about the unique identity of Americans and you know what it meant to be an American, and it's optimistic, it's forward thinking. And for so many years, one of the reasons for Trump's success is that forget about a malaise. They've been in the gutter thinking, you know, hopelessness, with hopelessness and despair, right and some people look at you know, especially younger people, they look at the situation you just brought up during the break. You know, student loan debt, we have national debt, we have credit card debt, we can't afford homes. 00:17:22 Speaker 3: Right, there is countries getting invaded rich that's the time. I mean, I tell you that is the single most demoralizing aspect of modern American life is that you look at you look across the street, and you don't recognize your neighbors. You go to the DMV, you don't recognize your neighbors. You go to on an airplane, you don't recognize your neighbors. And there is something insidious about this, Blake. I would love to build this out from a data standing. At some point there is something about when your country gets invaded by foreigners where American families stop or whatever the country is, stop having babies and stop believing like mass immigration lowers fertility rate. 00:17:56 Speaker 7: Country doesn't. 00:17:57 Speaker 6: It's not the it doesn't have a lot self. Crea doesn't have a lot and. 00:18:01 Speaker 3: They're lower than Switzerland. 00:18:03 Speaker 7: So it's not the only factor. 00:18:05 Speaker 3: But there's something insidious about it and demoralizing about it. And this is why I constantly harp on the issue of immigration. I think it is visceral I think there is a you know, we talk about illegal and you still get these boomer cons that say, you know, oh I support legal immigration and I'm just anti No, Like, nope, We've had too much. We've had too much, and we are watching the eraser of American culture before our eyes. We are watching the communities that remind us of America shrink and get like these enclaves get shrunk. And it's not about skin color, by the way. I think it's about pre modern and postmodern. I'm gonna build this idea out too. But it's people that see the economic system as an opportunity to get ahead and those who view it as a as a extraction tool to oppress people. That's the dividing line. Because if you look at the American opportunity as a chance to enrich you, yourself, and your family and the future generations that come after you, then you will be a contributing member of this society. If you look at America as an extraction machine operation like the Somalis do pre modern, then you're gonna You're gonna treat us as oppressors and you're gonna try and take back the wealth that you think was wrongly stolen by the white man. Rich bears final word. 00:19:19 Speaker 5: Yeah, if you if you look at what just. 00:19:21 Speaker 4: The the chart of the graphic that Donald Trump put out on the Truth the other day about these populations and how much they take, right, what are the percentage, what are the household percentages receiving benefits from the country, And there is this feeling and if you're a domestic population, it does give you this sense of you know, I'm just losing. 00:19:40 Speaker 5: We're just losing because. 00:19:42 Speaker 4: You can see that people come in here and they don't have the attitude you have. You want to thrive, right where these populations want to come in, they want to survive and they want it, like you said, they want to extract, right. 00:19:53 Speaker 3: So it just lea to build one. 00:19:56 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. 00:19:57 Speaker 4: Well, while domestic us born said don't because well, of course we all have criminal populations, criminal elements, but that largely that's not what we're talking about here, right, We're talking about people who are trying to be good citizens and then just constantly beat it down by the system that they're fleecing. 00:20:15 Speaker 3: It. 00:20:16 Speaker 4: Just come on, I mean, it's not hard to understand why people had this sense. It's like cloud, this dark blanket come over them that the future is bleak. 00:20:23 Speaker 5: So again, I think this is this can be. 00:20:25 Speaker 4: Used as an opportunity to turn this into like an American resurgence. 00:20:30 Speaker 3: It just has to be done right in exactly. I mean there is a sense. I even looked at Blake in that one of the breaks, I said, I'm loving this sort of unapologetic Yeah, we're gonna take Greenland. Yeah we're gonna We're gonna We're gonna seize rush of It depends. I'm just saying I like the vibe. I like the energy. It's resurgent. Thank you, Rich Beharsh, You're the man. 00:20:50 Speaker 8: This is Lane Schomberger, chief investment Officer and founding partner of y Refi. It has been an honor and a privilege to partner with Turning Point and for Charlie to endorse a His endorsement means the world to us, and we look forward to continuing our partnership with Turning Point for years to come. Now Here Charlie, in his own words, tell you about y REFI. 00:21:10 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you guys about why refight dot com. That is why are e f y dot com. Y Refi is incredible private student loan debt in America told us about three hundred billion dollars. Y refi is refinancing distress or defaulted private student loans. 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We're gonna get it, get as many of them as we can. Yeah, So Secretary, he obviously a busy, busy man. Lots of questions about Venezuela, lots of questions about, uh, what's going on with Greenland. There's been rumors that the US is open to military force to take Greenland and how how else do you want to put that? But we Blake, why don't you set up the next clip for us here? 00:22:40 Speaker 6: But also well, we'll have us ready to go so we can ask him about it once he sits down. But there's this big obviously, there's been a lot of stuff about Greenland after the Venezuela thing, because there's chatter which the administration is encouraged that okay, we're we're flexing our muscle in this hemisphere. Could that mean will make a bid for Greenland? And there's debate whether it be just seizing it or now there's also back room we really just want to buy it. 00:23:04 Speaker 7: All of that. Anyway, this's got a lot. 00:23:07 Speaker 6: Of attention because Denmark's Prime minister reacted to this and basically said if the US goes after Greenland. An effect of this is it's going to be the end of the NATO alliance. 00:23:19 Speaker 7: Let's play too forty six. 00:23:21 Speaker 9: Firstly, I believe that the American President should be taken seriously when he says that he wants Greenland. But I also want to make it clear that if the United States chooses to attack another NATO country militarily, then everything stops, that is, including our NATO and thus the security that has been provided since the end of the Second World War. I believe in democracy, and I believe in the international rules. Of course, I also believe that you do not change borders by force, either one way or another. It is not only the position of Denmark and the Danish Kingdom, fortunately of Europe too. So I hope that the people will also take note of the once again significant ARU support so that we are receiving. 00:24:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, after which Trump truthed that America will always support and have NATO's back, even if they never have our back, and after he bragged that he got them to spend two percent to five percent GDP, which is fair, which is that's what we've wanted. 00:24:16 Speaker 6: Yeah, Absolutely, Like I think I think it's worth because I think some people have responded to this with some chest thumping, like there's a lot of attitude. I think this is part of what Stephen Miller said when he was on CNN. He said, Denmark can't stop us from taking it, which is true. But some people have actually just embrace On X mostly people have embraced this attitude of that's all that matters is whether they can stop us or not, and that that's all it reduces to. And I guess I would caution people from going really far down that rabbit hole. First of all, it's not ever been America's way, even when we were, you know, the global unquestioned superpower, not in declined anyway. It's not been our way to just bully weaker nations, to beat them up. 00:24:58 Speaker 3: That's not. 00:25:00 Speaker 6: Really a great long term play for America. Like what's greatly been to America's benefit historically is a lot of nations far weaker than us have been willing to work with us, have been willing to just. 00:25:11 Speaker 7: Accede to our leadership. 00:25:13 Speaker 6: And that led us in a dumb way where we just started to put other countries interests first over ours, where we just did dumb things where we're funneling endless foreign aid to crappy countries that don't like US and are taking advantage of US. But I don't think you swing back the other way and you just, for example, dissolve NATO because you feel like making your image on a mat bigger. 00:25:34 Speaker 1: No. 00:25:35 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I think you have to ask the question, how would we acquire Greenland? You've got to involve the people. Yeah, right, it should be done by vote. I think you know. 00:25:44 Speaker 7: I think the way you do it is you where you buy it. You just make the pitch. 00:25:48 Speaker 6: I think one thing that's been an issue is we've been it's almost been too attractive to just again chess thump and say like, oh we could easily do it, which we could. But I think the way you make it a long term play is you point out it is a win win. You can say Denmark, you just talk about how Denmark is a great ally. They actually have been. They have spent money, They've ponied up for Ukraine, whereas other countries haven't. They sent troops to Afghanistan. They had more troops die per capita in Afghanistan than I think any of our allies. And they've been a good ally to us, and they're also the European country that restricts immigration. They're good on a lot of ways. And so we talk about how Denmark is a great ally, and Denmark has taken on this burden of supporting Greenland. 00:26:27 Speaker 3: Well, they spend four billion dollars A yea, they spend a ton of money. 00:26:30 Speaker 6: It's not really a very profitable endeavor in any way, a big welfare sink for them. They spend a lot on this, and for us it would be a far more trivial amount of money to spend. So we could increase the amount of money, so we can say it's good for Greenland, we can develop you more, we can give you more money. It's good for Denmark, you're getting this off of your books. And it's good for America because we have a long term certainty of owning Greenland, we have that long term military security. We can potentially develop the natural resources with more resources. Is that's the pitch you make? 00:27:02 Speaker 3: When when? 00:27:03 Speaker 7: When when? For everyone involved? 00:27:05 Speaker 3: And then we get our oil lands back in Venezuela we're talking about. And by the way, we have secretary right on the show tomorrow, Energy Secretary of the United States. So we're gonna be talking all about Venezuelan oil. What's at stake? What could we benefit from, how much money could we make, how much money would be would flow back into the hands of the Venezuelan people. We are monitoring the situation. Secretary of Headsets should be sitting down in just a second, Blake. What are some of the questions that people want to ask? Secretary Headsets? 00:27:38 Speaker 6: Someone really wanted to know, what are your thoughts on the Russian sending a submarine to assist the Russian flighted oil tank. 00:27:46 Speaker 3: Wasn't much because the I think, you know what, I believe that the Russian submarine, by the way I've looked into this, was basically doing surveillance ahead of where they actually this tanker evaded a blockade, probably with the help of addition resources provided by the Russian. 00:28:02 Speaker 6: I like this question from Evan. What is the Department of War done to correct shipbuilding problems in the US Navy. We've covered that. We had a guest on at the start of the year. We're not building ships very well. When America won World War Two, we could famously build a ship in a single day. We did it once as a publicity stunt. We built a liberty ship from nothing to finished vessel twenty four hours fast, and we. 00:28:23 Speaker 7: Could literally build ship. We could build ships. 00:28:26 Speaker 6: Faster than the Japanese and the Germans could sink them. And now China can build ships faster than we would be. 00:28:32 Speaker 7: Able to sink them. 00:28:32 Speaker 6: Well, that's certainly true, probably faster than we could build the missiles that would blow them up. 00:28:36 Speaker 7: And they can build missiles faster than us. 00:28:37 Speaker 3: It's not so we're going to be asking about these seized vessels. We're going to be asking about, you know, what is the military obligation in Venezuela to if we're going to be running Venezuela, is there a military obligation and what is the extent of that obligation. We're going to be asking about. You know, do we have proof that Iran, China, Russia are still on the ground in Venezuela. Are they fomenting descent? Are they fomenting factions? You know, we're gonna be talking about Greenland and if we can get to it, we're gonna find out how many push ups and pull ups Secretary of Hegseth can do, which is what everybody wants to know obviously Blake and I just want to remember, remind everybody one thing here, Secretary. So we did a flash pole, well straw pole at Amfest. So for our thirty one thousand attendees of Amfest, we asked them who was the most popular secretary? We have that that graphic. I believe Secretary of Heagseth was our most was the most popular cabinet secretary in Trump's administration, according to our attendees at America Fest, which should tell you something. 00:29:46 Speaker 6: Eighty three percent strong approval and only zero point six percent strong disapproval. 00:29:53 Speaker 3: That's a pretty that's a pretty favorable crab. However you want to slice it u So again we looks like we're getting some activity here. We will have Secretary Hegseth on a just a second from an undisclosed location. What other questions you want us to ask the secretary email us Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. I also want to know where our recruitment is at. So there's been a lot of headlines made about the recruiting numbers coming out of the US military that they are through the roof. I want to know exactly where those numbers are at all? Right, So email us your questions Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. By the way, breaking news there there is video now of the shooting incident out of Minneapolis involving an ICE agent. It does appear that the woman was attempting to ram the Ice agent. That video is now circulating online. I would show it to you, except we are still eagerly awaiting the secretary. So, Blake, what else you got for us? 00:30:56 Speaker 6: Uh, well, we were going to do this after, but we might be going right up against the end of the show here. President Trump has announced he's going to be pursuing new measures not clear yet, but to make it easier for a single family home. He says, for a long time, buying and owning a home was considered the pinnacle of the American dream. It was a reward for working hard and doing the right thing. But because of the record high inflation of Joe Biden and the Democrats, the American dream is increasingly out of reach for many people, especially younger Americans. For that reason, I am immediately taking steps to ban large institutional investors from buying more single family homes and I will be calling on Congress to codify it. People live in homes, not corporations. I will discuss this topic and more at my speech in Davos in two weeks. 00:31:44 Speaker 7: I don't know what it's going to be. 00:31:45 Speaker 6: That is tremendous and it's exactly what Charlie was I was going to say. 00:31:48 Speaker 3: This is a Charlie Kirk special. 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That's Patriotmobile dot com slash Charlie or call nine seven two Patriot and make the switch today. 00:33:41 Speaker 3: Secretary Pete Hegseth, Department of War, welcome to the show. It's great to see you. 00:33:47 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. 00:33:48 Speaker 3: Secretary, we'll get right into it. Two tankers have been boarded and apprehended by the US military. A senior Russian lawmakers quoted as saying, this is outright piracy. What do you call these actions? 00:34:00 Speaker 1: Outright accountability? Actual enforcement? There's been a long time illicit activity emanating from Venezuela around the world. 00:34:06 Speaker 10: Really, the Dark fleet's a global enterprise, but Venezuela has used it to transport sanctioned oil, flagless vessels that enrich the regime. And we have said a oil blockade is in full effect around Venezuela to ensure that that oil on the Dark Fleet doesn't make it anywhere. So there was one vessel that attempted to move toward Venezuela and when we put the blockade and turned around. 00:34:30 Speaker 1: So we've been pursuing that one for a couple of weeks. 00:34:33 Speaker 10: Frankly, just a reminder that we will follow you, and when we have the opportunity, when sure. 00:34:37 Speaker 1: You are, we seize that vessel. 00:34:40 Speaker 10: Which we did, and then there was another one inside closer to Venezuela and waters this morning at the same time simultaneously that we also confiscated. 00:34:49 Speaker 1: So this is an ongoing effort. It's in full effect. 00:34:52 Speaker 10: The pressure is on, and as Marco has laid out, we're working with the. 00:34:58 Speaker 1: Venezuelan government to ensure. 00:34:59 Speaker 10: That the there's a new way by which they can process that oil, partnering with the United States, and we're going to continuing enforce it this blockade as necessary. 00:35:10 Speaker 6: So far, as Secretary, we haven't had any US boots on the ground in Venezuela, but President Trump has said We're going to run the country in some capacity. Is there any possibility that that will take place, and if so, how many what could that situation look like. 00:35:25 Speaker 10: Well, I think in these cases what the President is so good about is we're not closing doors here, We're not opening doors. We're not revealing to anybody what we will or will not do. Strategic ambiguity is a really important thing. Leverage properly it creates opportunities that did not exist before. Just like that raid on Maduro that no one in the world anticipated. The most sophisticated raid maybe that's ever happened in military history, changed the entire dynamic. We didn't talk about whether something like that was possible. So what happens next depends a lot on the decisions that are made inside Caracas and by leadership. 00:35:59 Speaker 1: The block CAID remains in. 00:36:00 Speaker 10: Full effect, the strikes on Narco, terrace and boats full effect. The pressure continues to ensure that they work with the United States to ensure that that oil and Marco made it clear. 00:36:11 Speaker 1: The President put out a statement yesterday. 00:36:13 Speaker 10: Thirty to fifty million barrels of oil to be brought to the United States to be processed, to be used properly by the Venezuelans to ensure that that transition happens. 00:36:23 Speaker 1: The way that it should. 00:36:24 Speaker 10: You could see scenarios where, hey, maybe we reopen the embassy and you have got marines there to guard the embassy. You could look at scenarios where there's cooperation. But I wouldn't foreclose anything, and I think it's important not to foreclose anything to make sure that the outcome is one that benefits the interests of the United States in our own hemisphere. This is the Donroe doctrine. This is you know, Russia Iran, Cuba. Others had their tentacles all over Venezuela to exploit it and also to leverage their opportunity to be closer to us and pull those energy assets out. 00:36:57 Speaker 1: We're flipping the script, putting. 00:36:58 Speaker 10: America first, trolling our hemisphere, and that action taken on Nicholas Mdurea was the starve it, but it's certainly. 00:37:05 Speaker 8: Not the end. 00:37:06 Speaker 3: Secretary, you watched the raid happen live as it was happening, and you mentioned that this is the most sophisticated raid of its kind, probably in who knows living memory. What was it like watching it it happened, the apprehension of Madua and his wife, Like, what's the memory that stands out from that moment? 00:37:26 Speaker 10: The memory that stands out the most for me was watching the drone feed at the end when you could see the I won't reveal the exact number, but the helicopters leaving Venezuelan territory over the water and they looked like little ants, little dots on their way out of the country. They have Maduro and his wife, indicted individuals and all the Americans are out safely. We had some wounded, but no Kia. That was the enduring image because everything in between. You know, yes, these are the best of the best, they're trained for it. In fact, the commanders said, they've never been more supported, They've never felt like they've had better intelligence, they've never had clearer and better authorities, They've never been given everything that they need. That's one of the things we're very proud of here at the War Department. We're going to support our fighters, back them up one hundred percent, give them whatever they need, give them the authorities and rules of engagement to be successful. And they had all of that. Still the enemy on the other side gets a vote, and it was a contested raid, even with the sophistication that went into it. And we watched them hover over, we watched the actions on We watched, you know, Venezuelan man pads get shot while they could potentially try to shoot at helicopters, and it was all in real time. But it wasn't until we saw those birds float now that any of us could really exhale the courage it took for the President to authorize it. 00:38:45 Speaker 1: The sheer courage and competency of. 00:38:47 Speaker 10: Our men and women in the military. Those those assaulters that extraction force. 00:38:51 Speaker 1: Incredible, the best in the world. 00:38:54 Speaker 10: They did went downtown without being heard, without being seen, with no notice, distracted that indicted individual and brought them back to the United States. Only the United States of America could do this mission, second to none, no doubt. 00:39:06 Speaker 3: And you even saw that on CNN, mister Secretary, where they were You had analysts saying that even China and Russia were looking at this going like, Wow, this is incredible. So to your point, they've never felt that. Your men and women in the military have never felt more support, more backup. I mean, I know this is hard to quantify, but you came in with a mandate to make the military more lethal, the lethality you said it again and again, fitness, excellence, meritocracy. You know two part question, where are we at now? How much more excellent? How much more lethal are we now than when you took over? And I also I'm curious about where recruitment stands right now for the US military. 00:39:42 Speaker 10: Well, we've always had great Americans, right our job has been to unleash them, to allow them to do their job without tinkering in the way they operate, without more burdensome rules of engagement, without more political caveats while actually giving them the authorities we need. 00:39:58 Speaker 1: And a lot of that. 00:39:59 Speaker 10: Emanated the speech I gave it quantico to generals and senior enlisted saying, I'm putting commanders back in charge. It's not my job to tell that extraction force exactly how. 00:40:08 Speaker 1: To do it. 00:40:09 Speaker 10: It's my job to get them what they need, insure their standards are clear, they able to execute at the highest possible level, and unleash them to do what they do best. I mean, that's the reflections I've gotten back from not just special operators, but conventional units, just saying it's a new environment, it's a new vibe, a new aura inside the military where we feel empowered to be the warriors that were supposed to be. We've always been that way, but other things have held us back. There've been political correctness, or prerogatives or dei or new priorities were emphasized, and we didn't feel like we were fully supportive supported not anymore. 00:40:44 Speaker 1: And you mentioned the recruiting numbers. 00:40:46 Speaker 10: That's why last year was the most historic recruiting numbers we've seen in decades. This year is even beyond that. So far, guys, the recruiting numbers are surpassing. 00:40:54 Speaker 1: So far and FY twenty six what they were last year, because the spirit continues. The word is get out. 00:41:00 Speaker 10: This is a military you want to be in. President Trump has your back, the Secretary has your back. We're training better than ever before in what we do, and we've got historic financing to make sure we've got the weapons to do it. 00:41:12 Speaker 1: But also we're focusing. 00:41:13 Speaker 10: On barracks and quality of life for the men and women who serve, raising pay. 00:41:17 Speaker 1: That's the way it should be. Put in the troops first, and that's been our focus. 00:41:20 Speaker 6: Speaking of the troops under you, yesterday you announced you're going to seek a reduction in Mark Kelly, Senator Mark Kelly's rank as a result of his statements about possibly defiant orders. One of our viewers, Elizabeth, has asked us she's wondering, She says, why not bring charges against him? 00:41:39 Speaker 7: She wonders how you reach that decision. 00:41:41 Speaker 10: Well, we went through the regular process and we have evaluated those statements, not just that one video, which was incredibly reckless. He knew exactly what he was doing. By the way, he was the senior member of that video. He's the only one we have jurisdiction over because he's retired, he's receiving a pension money from the government, which means he's still subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. And watching the I don't know hissy fit that he's been throwing ever since shows us just how over the target we are. He knew exactly what he was saying. He understands the rules, he understands he's still subject to U se him Jay, he understood the doubt and uncertainty he was putting into the process by vaguely alluding to illegal orders but never never pointing to what that would mean underneath the Trump So he knew, and he understands, and the reaction underscores how serious this action is. Reducing a rank or pay is a serious administrative action that sends real seals that we take these things incredibly seriously. So he's got the time by statute or by directive to reply. We'll review after that, but this is I don't think anybody should should minimize how significant this is. We don't do it without understanding that. And we're following up by the book and we'll see what happens. 00:42:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, my brother who's in the military said that This is a pretty massive demoralization for him. I mean, this is a getting demoted in your retirement is pretty big, Secretary. Last question here, Oh, I want to say first, I want you to know that you were our most popular We did a straw pole at America Fest and thirty one thousand people we gave it to all of them. They said that you are their most their favorite cabinet secretary in the Trump administration. So I just I want you to know that. There's other questions about how many pull ups you can do? How many push ups, but we're going to skip that for the interest of time. But I'm sure that that had some influence in your favorable marks there. I want to end it with this, and we should. This is the Charlie Kirk Show. You were friends with Charlie. Charlie fought like tooth and nail to get you over the finish line in your confirmation. I think he'd be very proud of you, mister secretary. You've done a tremendous job and we're proud of you. What do you remember about him and what do you want the world to know about your friend that maybe they don't from your POV. 00:44:02 Speaker 1: Give me chills. 00:44:04 Speaker 10: I wouldn't be in this position right here without Charlie Kirk, with a probably without the Charlie Kirk Show, without his platform, without his courage. 00:44:10 Speaker 1: Throughout the confirmation battle. 00:44:12 Speaker 10: He was always right there, hold the line, don't give in. 00:44:17 Speaker 1: We've got your back, and the wind that put in my sales. 00:44:20 Speaker 10: I mean, he and Donald Trump Junior and others just unrelenting in backing me up. 00:44:25 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be here without him. Listen. 00:44:28 Speaker 10: He was the thermometer and the thermostat of our movement, and you understand what that means. 00:44:33 Speaker 1: He understood what was going. 00:44:34 Speaker 10: On round around the country, and he understood how to ensure we were calibrating correctly to make sure make America great Again or America First was moving in the right direction. 00:44:43 Speaker 1: But he did it because he had listened. 00:44:45 Speaker 10: He was a true believer on every front and politically of what he believed in his own Christian faith and how he lived that out. 00:44:52 Speaker 1: And he wasn't about praise for Charlie Kirk. 00:44:54 Speaker 10: He was about the country and Christ and the cause and doing everything he could do advance it. 00:44:59 Speaker 1: He never cared whether it was his name in the headline. So he backed people up. 00:45:03 Speaker 10: He backed President Trump up, he backed me up, he backed the other members of the cabinet up, and created the opportunity for us to do exactly what we should do, which is what we said we would do, which President Trump appointed us to do, which is, you know, peace through strength America. 00:45:16 Speaker 1: First, bring the warrior ethos back to the military. 00:45:19 Speaker 10: All the things Charlie cared about, you guys care about we're doing so. I wouldn't be here without him. We think of him every single day. I love him. His wife, Erica, is incredible. Anything we will do here at the War Department, and just just grateful to live in such a country that produces men like Charlie Kirk. 00:45:35 Speaker 3: Well, God bless you. We're grateful to live in a country that produces men like you, Secretary. And thank you for making the time. I know you're busy, you got a heart out, get onto your next thing. We pray for you, We support you, have your back one hundred percent. We'll see you soon. 00:45:48 Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, appreciate it. 00:45:49 Speaker 3: God bless you. All Right, the Secretary, we got to we gotta go. I'm proud of us, amount of time, I'm proud of us. It was it was delayed, complicated business. 00:46:00 Speaker 6: Thank you for everyone who sent them in. I know we only got to a couple of them unfortunately. 00:46:04 Speaker 3: But yeah, but we appreciate it. Keep sending us emails. Freedham at charliekirk dot com. We will see you tomorrow. 00:46:16 Speaker 5: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.