The Baby Gabriel Case + Royce White's Trans Journey

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You know, Blake, you and I were talking last night this morning about what the lead should be today, and there were many options, including you know, how Ben Shapiro got into Harvard talking about catering carts and weather, foreign governments were involved. There was so many options. But we, you know, we've been wanting to cover this story. And it turns out that this baby has been born. And I'll give you the backstory. If you have not followed this story, it is truly harrowing. It's a California surrogacy drama and a woman who refused to boort the baby has now given birth and her name is McKenna West. And I'll just tell you where this is going from my perspective right here, at the onset. I think McKenna West is an absolute hero. So McKenna West, it was a surrogate. Now we can get into what we think about surrogacies in a moment here. But she was a surrogate mom who refused to abort the baby despite the wishes of the boy's biological parents. Now, she gave birth early Wednesday among a bitter legal battle. And here is the situation. She's from Alaska. She was carrying a baby for the couple at the fetuses twenty week skin on fetus. I'm reading for a story. But the baby's twenty week scan, doctors discovered it had a hypoplastic left heart syndrome. It's a rare birth defect where the left side of the heart doesn't grow correctly and it requires about three surgeries to correct it once the child is born. Now, this surrogacy agreement, Blake, and this is where you're not a lawyer, but you play one on TV from time to time. It had an agreement that allowed the couple to choose to terminate the pregnancy if there was an anomaly found. So, but here's what happened. McKenna refused to do this. She flees to Texas and where she would be seen as the birth mort mother, according to the Dallas Morning News, so she delivered baby Gabriel, who she got to name, and now the attorney for the intended parents has told the Dallas Morning News are clients only focus at this time is ensuring that their baby receives the medical care vitally needed and that as his parents are able to spend every precious moment they can with him. So here's the problem. So the intended parents are suing McKenna and they had a court date later this month, but it's unclear how this multi state battle will play out. Here's my simple logic, Blake, and you can tell me why I'm being far too simplistic. In this world full of lawyers and weirdness and surrogacy. You do not get the right to claim it as your baby when you wanted that baby dead. That's first rule. And because I think surrogacy is weird in general, and we want to know your thoughts, so please email us Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. The logic is simple, your womb your baby, just as God intended. So if you're gonna play with fire like this and rent out another woman's womb. Then you've got to deal with the consequences that there could be consequences, There could be conflict that arises, and God bless Ken Paxton. He's been fighting for this baby. This baby will be okay. By the way, the hospital that this baby is at has one hundred percent success rate with this particular proces. But it remains unclear, and McKenna has not been able to see baby Gabriel since the birth, so it remains unclear what's gonna happen here, all right, Blake the floor. 00:05:08 Speaker 6: Joe, it's all you left out some of the drama, I think, which is I know, certainly allegations were made. A lot of this is allegations because it is an unfolding legal battle that once she was McKenna, so she was up in Alaska, the parents are in California. She went to Texas because that's where the law will side with her, that's where she can get treatment for the baby. But supposedly the parents' backup plan here was they were going to say, once the baby's born, it's our baby, we want to immediately have it in California. They're alleging that their plan was to just provide palliative care there basically don't operate on the baby, allow it to die. 00:05:46 Speaker 5: So that's why we're in Texas. 00:05:47 Speaker 6: That's why Ken Paxton's office intervened and said, we're going to like legally order that life saving care be provided. I don't know where it's going to go from here, because, as you say it, it feels intuitive to us that once parents decide please kill our baby, should there should be some forfeiture of parental rights there. But I don't know if the law is going to shake out that way. Usually it is the case that a surrogate cannot decide to keep the baby. 00:06:16 Speaker 5: It does go to the parents. 00:06:18 Speaker 6: Now Happily, in most cases the parents do want that baby. But this, this just shows how the whole situation is very fraud. It gets back to those discussions we would have with Charlie. Is IVF okay? Is surrogacy okay? And this is the sort of thing that it. It's why it leaves a bad feeling in my stomach in many cases, because you can see how this human being, this child, has become a commodity to certain people, how it's become something that you can design, You can say if it didn't come out exactly how I want throw it out. 00:06:50 Speaker 5: Let's try again. That is what they're. 00:06:52 Speaker 6: Attempting to do, And we'd love emails from any of you who are watching. 00:06:55 Speaker 5: How do you feel about surrogacy? 00:06:57 Speaker 6: Do you like it because it can allow parents to who can't have a biological baby normally? 00:07:03 Speaker 5: Can I to have one a different way? You should contact us about that. 00:07:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to chime in there. I'm open to changing my mind here. Maybe you and the emails can change my mind. I'm not advocating to make it illegal necessarily, although I'm very tempted to go that far. But I do believe that there are probably instances where a well intentioned family literally cannot get pregnant for whatever reason. I don't I haven't studied it enough, but my instincts tell me this. It's weird, it feels unnatural, and you're playing with fire now. I want to give special shout out to CBS because apparently they were the only network to cover this. I think dramatic, bombshell story that exposes so many different threads and themes, So I'm gonna give them credit here. We're gonna play it. It's tot sixteen. 00:07:53 Speaker 7: Meanwhile, the Texas now in a battle over the future of a baby born with a serious heart condition. The California parents of the child want to end the pregnancy months ago when they learned of the condition, but their surrogate refused and then went to Texas, where the state has now stepped in. 00:08:07 Speaker 8: Wes spoke about the unusual surrogacy situation with Live Action in anti abortion rights organization. Her pregnancy was on track for twenty weeks until doctors diagnosed a rare and severe heart defect in the baby. After learning of the defect, Wes says the parents, nache Gilkar and Omar Ahmed, asked her to schedule an abortion, parents with medical prerogative if something experts say is a common claus in surrogacy contracts. Instead, Wes decided to find treatment in Dallas for the child after birth. 00:08:37 Speaker 6: Everything about this it's so upsetting. Like you mentioned there, it was on track until twenty weeks. That's very far into a pregnancy. These parents came in and said, we want you to abort it. We want you to throw this baby out because it's going to have a disability, a disability that will likely shorten its life. 00:08:54 Speaker 5: But it's it's unreal. 00:08:56 Speaker 6: It's not one of those cases where abortion advocates will say, well, you need the right to a because some babies have a terminal disability that will cause them to die in their first minutes of life. It's not even a case like that. Their baby wasn't perfect, so they wanted to throw it out. And God bless Texas for helping miss West in this case. 00:09:14 Speaker 3: All right, so we have emails, Blake, what are we hearing from the good folks? 00:09:18 Speaker 6: Well, we've got a few. We've got an endorsement of your take. I completely agree. I complete with you, I completely agree with you, Andrew. Those parents' rights were relinquished when they wanted her to abort. Ridiculous. God's blessings on that mother. Another one, I think someone said, I agree with Charlie. I like Charlie's view on IVF. Only use the amount of embryos that you can take care of. That's obviously related. It's what I think bothers us when we see modern technology allow babies to become a commodity. It becomes something that people think they can just pick up, throw out, get rid of, and that should worry us. And we see these signs of this everywhere, and I've talked about this a bit on X, but we might as well talk about it here too. We're getting the technology is quite close. They're making it in China where we won't need surrogates anymore. You can have a artificial womb, a robot, you can grow a baby in a vat. And my thought, my prediction is I think we're going to see people become more pro abortion from that. Even though all those excuses people made up about bodily autonomy, my body, my choice, that's the explanations people gave for why abortion was justifiable, that'll all go away. But people will still say, I want to customize my baby. If it's wrong, I want to be able to pull the plug. And I think this shows it, and I think another case that we've seen out of Massachusetts shows the same thing. 00:10:45 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I just want to say quickly, I think you're completely right. If you grow baby in a lab, you're gonna see more abortions because you're gonna lose that human connection. It's like when humans move to the city and they lost the connection with the farm or the forest or whatever. This is one of the reasons this is happening. Mckennaugh feels tied to this baby that was growing inside of her right and obviously she seems like she has a really active faith. So let's play SAT seventeen. Hear her in her own words. 00:11:13 Speaker 9: This couple I was carrying the baby for had decided that they wanted me to terminate the pregnancy. 00:11:18 Speaker 6: You're in a legal battle, fighting for your son's life. 00:11:21 Speaker 9: I could be facing over two hundred thousand dollars in damages and financial consequences. They get to make all of these decisions that are going to affect me for the rest of my life, trying to force an abortion, and that's something that I would have had to live with, and I didn't think that I could live with myself. Nothing was scarier than questioning my own soul and knowing what would happen to this bait people. Boy, If I his life doesn't have a price tag on it, there's nothing that they could try to come after me for that would be worth his life. 00:11:59 Speaker 3: Man. She seems just completely authentic, and you know, fighting for this baby's life for all the right reasons. Now you mentioned Massachusetts, by the way. Oh and by the way, if she's facing two hundred thousand dollars in damages. I bet it GOFUNDMEU would show her up. Really at this point recommend people donated to it. Yeah, but this is really infuriating. Governor Maurra Healy, who's a selfcent claimed Christian governor of Massachusetts, has just signed a bill to make sure that women can kill unborn babies up to forty weeks forty plus weeks actually in Massachusetts. So she says, we're going to make sure that women in particular are able to make their own health care decisions. I hate this stuff, Sop eighteen. 00:12:42 Speaker 10: I promise that no matter what Donald Trump or Republicans in Congress or the Supreme Court does, we're going to continue to make sure that women and families have access to the healthcare that they need. Right here in Massachusetts. We're going to make sure that women particular are able to make their own healthcare decisions, not the government. 00:13:05 Speaker 3: And if you see the wide shot Blake, you see all these like young white women gathered around clapping like seals. It strikes me and this this will be my comment, and then I'll throw it to you that amer I've fact checked this. It's approximately right. Maybe the numbers aren't exactly sixty and sixty, but we've killed about sixty million babies since Roe, and in that time we've imported about sixty million. Actually probably more, but it's about sixty million foreigners, third worlders, mostly into the country. And so I don't have a problem basically saying very directly that this is a curse upon our nation that we have brought on because we've we've indulged child sacrifice, we've endorsed it, and you have clapping seals that claim to be Christians, signing legal papers ensuring that it can happen all the way up to birth, and I find that to be detestable. I'm one hundred percent pro life. I know you are blake. It's one of your most passionate issues. And I believe this is a curse upon our nation. What do you think like? 00:14:04 Speaker 5: I think you're right. 00:14:05 Speaker 6: I think if we believe that God exercises any moral hand over history, I think you'd have to believe that that many people, that many innocent human beings snuffed out, and that we prefer to ignore it, we prefer to not think about it too hard. You can see, you'll just see headlines where they'll they'll talk about, oh, you know, you know missing you know, missing generation, like they're they're murdered. 00:14:33 Speaker 5: We have, we murdered our country's future. 00:14:35 Speaker 6: And they'll talk about we have a problem with falling fertility rates, we have a problem that we don't have workers to fill jobs. 00:14:41 Speaker 5: The reason we don't have. 00:14:42 Speaker 6: Those is because we made it legal and encourage people and provided government money and provide it, in some cases religious sanction for people to. 00:14:51 Speaker 5: Murder their own children. And that is heinous. 00:14:55 Speaker 6: And we have to believe that people who endorse this and enable this will be held a countable for it. And it's one of the things that makes me feel so upset is that that governor there who's signing that bill has identified herself as a Catholic. I think there's a photo of her with the previous pope, and that fills me with disgust because what she is doing there is as evil as any warlord committing a wartime atrocity. It's as evil, it's as evil as anything in history. And as you say, they're all sitting there clapping like seals, just. 00:15:25 Speaker 3: Well, it's off. This is a There's a girl named Kate Deneen she's the president and CEO of a Better City in Massachusetts. She gave her aborted baby the middle name Lee to honor the doctor who killed him that performed the abortion. She helped push the late term abortion bill in Massachusetts. At thirty three weeks, she and her husband drove to Maryland so a late term abortionist, Leroy Lee Carhart, could inject potassium chloride straight into their son's heart and make it stop. 00:15:55 Speaker 4: Why. 00:15:55 Speaker 3: A neurologist told her that the baby had a catastrophic stroke and might end up with serious disab abilities. 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We exist, We have a right to a All trans people have a right to exist, but especially your black transgender lesbians like myself, we especially have a right to exist. And you know, CNN this just just this morning, CNN says, oh, well, these two former players NBA players are co opting all of the sweat equity from the w NBA. And who are they to tell us what a real woman is? 00:18:23 Speaker 5: That's so true. 00:18:23 Speaker 6: I mean they they don't know your experience, they don't know the struggles that you've gone through, and even we can't understand your struggles, Andrew and I certainly don't. All we can do is we need to line up and we need to listen. 00:18:39 Speaker 11: Yeah, when a black woman talks, people should should sit and learn and try and learn what it is that that they can't possibly even start to empathize with. I mean, I don't I think there's such a gap between the lived experience of black trans lesbians and what other people could empathize with. Why even attempt to just sit back and let us run the show? 00:19:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I completely agree, and who are we to inject our own opinions or maybe even judgments. Royce, you know I want to give you a chance to reply back though to the WNBA. There was a meeting yesterday, and I think some of your decisions, your actions in the recent weeks have helped spark this. Obviously. Sophie Cunningham plays for the Indiana Fever. She said that, you know, she wouldn't be supportive of your coming into the WNBA as a trans player, but then a number of players said that they would welcome you in, and so that obviously helped inspire your journey and your courage here. But a statement from a WNBA spokesman yesterday says today's meeting covered a wide range of topics, including ongoing discussions on transgender athletes and the continued hate and vitriol directed at players online. We will continue to engage all leagues stakehold in the coming weeks and months. We will approach these important conversations thoughtfully and in alignment with the values of our league. There are no immediate eligibility matters affecting the WNBA, and we strongly denounce the bad faith efforts to use these topics to demean or marginalize others. I just got to ask, Royce, how does that make you feel when you see the WNBA spokespeople calling what you're doing bad faith, because I can obviously see that this is sincere for you. 00:20:28 Speaker 11: Well, Number one, I find it offensive that they have any comments on my faith whatsoever. I'm a pro life Christian, black trans lesbian and they have no right to speak on my faith. That's very personal. But even more importantly, it's like, to continue to deny black transgender lesbians is tantamount to genocide. What you just witnessed with the WNBA's response in the public is harmful. It's dangerous for all of us trans people, and it's tantamount to genocide. 00:20:59 Speaker 3: I totally uh and I and I got to ask on a personal level. You know, I've seen the comments. You know, you're you're being misgendered, You're being hated on dead name, a lot of dead name, really despicable. 00:21:14 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of dead a lot of dead name, and a lot of misgendering. 00:21:17 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. 00:21:18 Speaker 4: I never knew. I never knew. I never knew. 00:21:21 Speaker 11: Look, I always I always talked about you know, uh, these these this cultural wedge issue as like, you know, gender proceeds from biology. We have to have a shared reality when it comes to men and women. If we don't, it's pretty much pulled out the jinger piece and baseline for us to have any any meaningful conversations about the human condition or human existence. But I, I guess I was wrong. Obviously I was wrong. It's a it's a revelation that I was wrong, and it's liberating. I had a transgender locked down inside of me for so long. It's it's it's really cured a lot of my other physical and mental health ailments because you know, this was the real issue. 00:21:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's my question. How is your mental health when you when you get dead named, you call it a genocide and obviously that's true. Are you how are you coping with the hate, the vitriol, the w NBA saying that this is bad faith and they're questioning your your your gender journey. How how are you doing personally? 00:22:19 Speaker 2: Well? 00:22:19 Speaker 11: I mean, you know they hate me because they hate me right, and you know it's I get it. You know, it's a journey. Everybody's is, you know, transition is a journey. Mine has to take place in front of the public, So it's gonna have a lot of scrutiny and people gonna have their opinions. Right, I'm getting a lot of death threats, people telling me to commit suicide. But I'm not gonna let anybody disturb my peace and my energy and and me becoming the beautiful black queen that I'm becoming right before America's eyes. 00:22:50 Speaker 5: You mentioned you mentioned dead naming. 00:22:53 Speaker 6: Is there is there a new name you've contemplated taking on that that you would like to introduce to the world. We just we want to be maximally respectful here. 00:23:00 Speaker 4: Yeah it's Roysha r O y s h A. Yeah, Roysia. And but but. 00:23:05 Speaker 3: We're going to change. But I still for you really quick. 00:23:08 Speaker 4: Please mean it is. I would appreciate that. 00:23:10 Speaker 11: No, no, you know what, I just figured out my identity myself. It's unfair to ask my friends like you guys on the Charlie Kirk Show to get the name right every single time. But a lot of these people, these bad faith actors who say that that I'm not a woman, This is all an act. They are dead naming me intentionally. They're dead naming me intentionally. It's not an honest mistake. 00:23:31 Speaker 3: No, obviously this it's bigoted, it's hateful, and we can't abide it. Rousia, and I just want you to know we have your back one hundred percent here Now they you are getting called out on CNN, the w n b A is attacking you. Sophie Cunningham has already attacked you. That's what sparked all this. Do you have anything you'd like to say to Sophie Cunningham in particular? 00:23:54 Speaker 11: Well, I got a lot of respect for Sophie Cunningham. She's a great player, She's tough, you know, she she does a lot of the little things. I think that Sophie's has a right to her opinion, she has a right to her her her free speech. We obviously disagree, which is why I'm pursuing the twenty twenty seven draft and I'd love to get love to get a chance to play with Sophie. Actually, in fact, if there was one team other than the Minnesota Lynx. You know, I'm a hometown guy here in Minnesota, Belly the beast cultural epicent of American politics. If there was one other team I'd love to play for, it be the the Indiana Fever and the great Sophie cunning h Yeah. 00:24:30 Speaker 3: And by the way, they could use somebody you know, of your of your you know, size and athleticism to maybe defend Caitlyn Clark, which has been another ongoing controversy in the w NBA. I mean this, Caitlyn gets fouled more than anybody, and they're just egregious. Now Sophie's getting slapped in the face with flagrant technical fouls here and obviously not going for the ball. They could use you on that team. So I am one hundred percent the Indian Anna Fever should absolutely draft you in this upcoming draft. And what do you think you could bring to a team in the WNBA? 00:25:07 Speaker 4: Rousche Well, a little bit of everything. You know. 00:25:09 Speaker 11: When I was in college and all through my career, one of the things that has always been said or complimented about my game is that I'm versatile. I do a little bit of everything. I guard every position, I can score at all three levels. I'm a willing passer, I'm a tough nosed defender. I love defense. I take pride in defense, and that's a lost art in today's game gender wide. And I think I could bring all of those things to a w NBA team, I will, you know, and I'll do whatever the team needs me to do, whatever the other girls need me to do. I'm here to do well. 00:25:41 Speaker 6: I think that we recently had Sophie Cunningham herself. She took a hard foul and her own coach came out and said, I respect you. Don't let someone drive in the paint unobstructed. I respect the opposing player for following heart. Are you prepared in your new feminine identay? Are you comfortable with going simile hard's doing some doing some aggressive violent fouls on your fellow women in the w n B. 00:26:05 Speaker 11: A well, of course as the first sometimes identifying as a black trans woman. I don't want to be, you know, targeted. You know that that. I don't think that would be right for me to be targeted. That'd be transphobic if they intentionally targeted me and tried to heart hurt me or foul me because of my trans identity. But uh, you know, it's it's a it's a contact sport and people have to be willing to go in there and and take a take a knock or two. 00:26:32 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, would you on that same question line, would you be if you do play for the Indiana Fever. I mean that's is that a kind of coach you want to play for somebody that's encouraging other teams to to foul their their players for players. 00:26:47 Speaker 11: Not particularly, I think that she should have defended her players. You always want to defend your players, especially your star players. And whether or not Sophie Cunningham's a premier scorer in the league, certainly she's become one of the face faces of the league. And four for good reason. She's a beautiful queen. 00:27:02 Speaker 4: Uh. 00:27:02 Speaker 11: And and you know, Kaitlyn Clark is is obviously next world and has elevated the entire w n B A And right now I think their their WNBA community, soon to be our w NBA community is going to have to come to grips with with the fact that Caitlyn Clark has has really elevated the game. And and and a rising tide raises all boats, right, I mean, I don't understand why even myself joining the league. As long as we get more eyeballs, as long as we get more attention, as long as the ticket prices and the TV audience continues to increase, what's the problem. 00:27:34 Speaker 3: Well, I don't see a problem with it at all, Roysia, And I just want to say that on behalf of the Charlie Kirk Show, we got your back, Queen, and we think you're beautiful just the way you are, and we support this one hundred percent. So god speed, and we know that you are going to take the w NBA to heights it hasn't seen and we're just really excited for this next stage of your joiel. 00:27:55 Speaker 11: But before we go, before we go, yeah, but before we go, I just want to make sure that I pay homage to the people who came before me, the people whose shoulders I stand on, right, I mean, that's so important, all of these other gender fluid folks that that really set the stage for culture to accept me. You got people like Juwanna Man and and and Tyler Perry, and you got even the late Robin Williams misdoubt fire, there's so many other Oh, and you can't. 00:28:21 Speaker 4: Forget the beautiful Rue Paul. Right. 00:28:23 Speaker 11: Rue Paul was one of the early pioneers of the sometimes identifying as as me trans lesbian woman. So I'm standing on their shoulders. I'm standing on their shoulders. 00:28:33 Speaker 3: You know, we're getting we're getting comments here, said Roysch is a nice name. Be respectful of her. I agree. Anyone else starting to think is pretty is really pretty. So listen, this is not this is not thank you, thank you some game here, I think, I agree. I think you look beautiful and who am I to judge? And and that's that's you know, we're evolving and you've always see you're pioneering a new way in the. 00:29:01 Speaker 4: W n b A. 00:29:02 Speaker 3: And we we have your back, Roysia, and so. 00:29:04 Speaker 4: God bless you guys. Thank you for the platform. 00:29:06 Speaker 11: Yeah CNN, CNN didn't want a platform me. They canceled my interview. They said they had other news. I don't know what could be no more newsworthy than the first plat black trans lesbian to play in the w n b A. 00:29:18 Speaker 4: I don't know. Thank you. 00:29:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're pioneering, You're you're you're pioneering a new way, and uh, I thought that was what we love here in America. We love you know, breaking that glass ceiling. I don't know if it's a glass ceiling. 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Rysia challenges us to be better, to overcome our limitations. 00:31:35 Speaker 5: And I think we see. 00:31:37 Speaker 6: You know, Raysa said it best that when a black woman is speaking, we should listen, we should honor, we should list especially, it's not our job to get in the way. It's not our job to center our white fragility in all of this. 00:31:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and and and and don't do those white supremacist things like you know, using logic or you know, uh, politeness, be overly polite. Just let her, let that queen talk, and the world has with everything. 00:32:08 Speaker 6: The world has lived under the white cis hetero patriarchy for long enough. 00:32:11 Speaker 3: Andrew, I completely ben. If that doesn't sum it up, I don't know what will. I I just I think it's shocking blake that the WNBA had a big meeting yesterday and was unable to come up with a conclusion of what is a woman? And in that lack of decisiveness, then I actually I totally believe that Enniscanter Freedom and Royschel White should one d be eligible for the twenty twenty seven draft. And if they are not, then there is not justice. This is not This is the most Unamerican story I've ever heard of. The WNBA comes out against them, what what say you blame? 00:32:51 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I think it's definitely proof that this is a women's basketball league that they were able to announce a big meeting and have all of their leaders come together and you're everyone's point of view and affirm everyone's feelings and make sure everyone was heard, and then not reach any actual decision. They'll have to have another meeting about it. Definitely sounds like a lot of other women's centered entities that i've i've you know, been adjacent. 00:33:16 Speaker 5: To in my life. 00:33:16 Speaker 3: I have to say that's that's completely It's like the Longhouse, uh, you know, made manifest here. I have to say, Ruyscha White is much more of a woman than many of the so called trans uh women that I have seen on the news being supported by outlets like CNN and MS now being championed by The New York Times and ABC, NBCCBS. Roysha is as much of a woman and deserves their respect and the proper gendering. Is anybody else now, I want to be clear. You know, Ruysha has been up against it on social media like a lot, right. I mean, there's I can pull we can pull up some of these these uh these tweets two forty one. Look at Isaiah Martin. I see that buffoon Royce White that bum I cooked on this stephen A. Smith show and who also had a very unsuccessful career in the NBA. Yeah, but Royce White had a very successful career in Canada. Was like MVP, massive triple doubles, all that stuff. And then Roysha replies, I've been misgendered and dead named by the Democrats for days now. That is what hate looks like. 00:34:20 Speaker 5: Boo boo. 00:34:20 Speaker 3: You really need to do some soul searching and figure out why you're still living in cisgender bigotry. Amen, Queen, Black trans lives matter, we have always mattered, we will always matter. If you don't refer to me as queen, you hate black women. Royce White for US Senate, Minnesota, twenty twenty six, Slave Queens. I completely agree. I mean, she's got a great point here. 00:34:40 Speaker 6: I need to pause. I need to pause and call someone out. I need to call out Danny on our team. Danny, you're getting called out live on air because you are not okay. You said, I want to know if I can bet on his overs in the league. Danny's a bigot. I don't think. I don't think we can ever. 00:34:57 Speaker 3: Have a misgender Danny, don't miss gender. That's hateful stuff. Another tweet here from Roysha two point forty. This is him with two other beautiful queens, said, three strong, beautiful black women. My mother who gave birth to me ten pounds, nine ounces, no epidural. She's struggling with my transition naturally, I'm kidding. She's been very supportive. The other is my baby sister, going into her last year of college as a Division one athlete. I help raise her, and she has put a lot of time into the game of basketball, a crazy career, state titles lost to COVID shutdowns, back surgery, grueling workouts with me. She's starting her master's program. We're very proud of her and will protect her at all costs. Maybe her and I will be drafted together. Wouldn't that be something? Can you imagine that Roysha White and his baby sister getting drafted together in the WNBA. I mean, you know, there's a lot of hate out there, there's a lot of negativity, But then you got roych you got people like Roysha White who are pioneering a new way and showing this is still the land of opportunity. America is still the greatest country in the history of the world. Because guess what, trans black lesbians like Roysia can still make it in America and his baby's sister, and that's the opportunity WNBA has afforded us. 00:36:10 Speaker 6: That is what George Washington crossed the Delaware for. It's what Abraham Lincoln guided us through the Civil War. For it's what Teddy Roosevelt wants to square deal. For it's what Paton thought at the Battle of the Bulge. For this is I wish we had an American flag that could start waving behind me, because this is probably the most American thing I've ever seen in my life. 00:36:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree. This is what the founders wanted. And you know obviously that in Muslim cultural centers, in our governments and late term abortions. I think what we're seeing in our one Blake is a manifestation of the founder's vision for America, and it's embodied by brave trans black lesbians like Royce White and his baby sister who apparently seems to be SIS. But we don't want to judge. But that's fine. Three black queens right there. Man, this has been an hour. I don't even know what to make of this, and I just you please forgive me in the audience. As I learn, as I adapt, as I evolve. I'm trying to be better, and I want to be better. I want to be better for the next generation. So give us your emails, your thoughts. Freedom at Charliekirk dot com let us know what you think of Rousche White's journey and whether or not the WNBA should be more open and inclusive to her journey as a trans lesbian black queen. I had the honor of a lifetime to call Charlie a friend, and what I remember most wasn't just what people saw on stage. It was what was behind the scenes. That was an unwavering commitment to his faith, his love for his family, and his genuine desire to encourage others to live with courage and conviction. Charlie believed that following Christ wasn't something you compartmentalized. He didn't put it in a box. He lived it out loud. It shaped how he lived, how he served, how he treated people every single day. Charlie Kirk, American Martyr, captures that heart. This documentary isn't just simply about remembering Charlie. It's an invitation for each of us to ask what kind of legacy we're building and whether we're willing to stand firm in our own faith when it's tested. I hope that you'll watch it with your family and have those conversations together. Go to angel dot com slash Kirk that's Angel dot com slash Kirk become an Angel Guild member, watch Charlie Kirk, American Martyr, and help bring more stories of faith, courage, and conviction to audiences around the world. Our two is underway, and if this is gonna feel like a bit of a emotional psychological whiplash, I apologize, But we're not talking about roysche White in the WNBA. We're talking about wolves and white coats that have been coming after kids. All right, to set us up in our next guest, let's go ahead and place twenty one. 00:38:58 Speaker 12: Today, aj JASS released Wolves and White Coats report examining pediatric gender medicine and insurance building across America. The findings raised serious questions about what families were told, what insurance were told, and how these procedures were built. 00:39:15 Speaker 13: Today, Secretary Kennedy and I referred hospitals and clinics identified by. 00:39:20 Speaker 5: This review to the Department of. 00:39:22 Speaker 13: Justice and the HHS Inspector General for possible violations of federal law. These allegations are crazy, and they demand investigation. When children may have been harmed and families misled, it's on those of us in power to find the truth and to seek justice. For kids who are harmed by these doctors. Together, we're going to protect our children. 00:39:46 Speaker 5: And importantly, we're going to restore trust. 00:39:48 Speaker 13: In public health and we will hold accountable anyone who would betray that trust. 00:39:53 Speaker 3: Joining us now as Admiral Brian Christine, Assistant Secretary for Health from the Department of HHS, owning us now to tell us the details breaking story. Thank you so much for joining us. This feels very very important. Can you lay out what you have found and what you're reporting in this new report, what these hospitals are doing, what ages are involved? 00:40:16 Speaker 14: The floor yours, No, thank you so much for Lamandy beyond with y'all today. It really is a privilege. It's certainly a privilege to serve President Trump and the American people as the Assistant Secretary for Health and to work with Secretary Kennedy and of course working with Vice President van So in this particular project. But you know, in the last ten or fifteen years, what we've seen is really an explosion and the number of individuals who identify as transgender and who seek sex, rejecting procedures, castrating chemicals and mutilating surgeries. And this report realizes that and we realize too that we're seeing explosion in the numbers but also a disproportionately high number of miners who are identifying as transgender and seeking the sex rejecting procedures, particularly young girls. The report looks at this, and the report says, okay, what's going on here? And the report has different sections. One of the sections looks at the potential financial gain that gender affirming so called gender affirming clinics can have in terms of getting these kids on these sex rejecting procedures and chemicals, keeping them as patients for a long period of time. There's potential financial gain if you get a child on cross sex hormones in other words, testosterone for little girls or estrogens for little boys, that's really five to seven hundred dollars per year per person in terms of cost and the billing for this. If you do sex rejecting mutilating surgeries, that goes up into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. So there really is a financial aspect to this. There's also a potential fraud encoding aspect. In other words, these gender affirming clinics, these clinics that offer these sex rejecting procedures, they would use medical codes that potentially are fraudulent to get reimbursement for these procedures. That's part of the report. Part of the report looks at the Biden administration what they did to use the heavy hand of government to advance this horrible gender ideology to push kids towards sex rejecting procedures again castrating chemicals and mutilating surgeries. The report also looks at some of the medical societies that have been pushing this the Endocrint Society, something called the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, the American Psychological Association. All of these individuals staff with ideologues that didn't want to take care of these kids with mental health care and counseling, which is what they need, but instead pushing them towards sex rejecting procedures. And the last part of the report looks at eight young individuals, eight miners, and their families who went through these horrible sex rejecting procedures and then said, you know what, this isn't right, I've done wrong. I want to stop the treatments, I want to try to detransition back and they were virtually abandoned by the insane individuals who shoved them in this direction. So this report is extensive, it's incredibly well written. It was produced, it was really produced through me, I mean through my office, the office of the Assistant Secretary. We commissioned this report. We're really proud of it. 00:43:31 Speaker 4: A lot of. 00:43:32 Speaker 14: Tremendous individuals contributed to it. We're very happy and we're very thrilled that the courageous detransition and their families were willing to speak. There's also a short video documentary that goes along with the report, so there's a lot to it. I know that was a long answer, but there you go. 00:43:49 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, that's great, And I just think it's just horrifying that there would be a financial incentive to transition young people before we are there even adults. We're not talking Roysha White in the WNBA, who is you know in his thirties her thirties, I should say, but this is I want to play this clip. This is Clementine Breen. She shares her experience with puberty blockers. 00:44:13 Speaker 4: It is terrible. 00:44:14 Speaker 3: I just watched this clip in the break and it's terrible. It's not twenty two. 00:44:18 Speaker 15: So before we start the questions, like tell me a little bit about yourself. 00:44:22 Speaker 16: My name's Clementine. I'm from Los Angeles. I'm twenty one years old. 00:44:26 Speaker 15: Well, what are some of the health problems that you experienced why you were on treatments and after surgery, And I know there's are probably that's probably a tough question, but thank you for thank you for talking about it. 00:44:35 Speaker 16: Yeah, of course, obviously I dealt with a lot of complications from being on puberty blockers before I hit puberty. I have constant joint pain and bone density loss as well. It didn't explain to me the potential lifelong consequences. 00:44:50 Speaker 3: It's just so ch nobody should be having a conversation. 00:44:53 Speaker 14: I mean, she is, Yeah, I'm sorry. She's such a beautiful young lady, so courageous to speak. But what she was saying there is a common theme with these detransitioners. They and their families so often were never never properly counseled about the potential downsides and the risks. They were never offered compassionate, comprehensive mental health care. They were led down a road and then they were abandoned. 00:45:19 Speaker 5: It's so much. The puberty blocker thing really troubled me. While it was happening. 00:45:23 Speaker 6: It troubles me to this day where it was just shoved out there that it's just a it's a pause button for people who are uncertain and you can resume it at any time. When the reality is is puberty is a specific time in your life, and if you block it, you just you skip past it. You are basically going to you're kind of going to render yourself a child for the rest of your life in a lot of ways. And they just lied to them. I'm looking at this chart. Throw up that chart I sent you guys that you mentioned how they were using fraudulent codes. So this chart is yearly reimbursement for puberty blockers in Pennsylvania. And it was when they said it was for proko puberty. Because the valid reason to block these is because some people hit puberty when they're four or five. They shouldn't be there yet, so you block it. And they're flagging here that in Pennsylvania, hundreds of kids were being given precocious puberty treatments when they were fourteen years or all older. That's when you're supposed to hit puberty. And millions of dollars are spent on this. Thousands of people are affected. I'm just boiling with rage. These people should be in prison now. 00:46:28 Speaker 14: And you point out something so important with that graph again, using these puberty blockers in an age group that by definition is not precocious puberty. And like you said, precocious puberty is the early onset of puberty. Generally it's under the age of eight for girls, under the age of nine for boys. And here you are these teenage kids who are getting puberty blockers for quote precocious puberty. Again, potentially fraudulent billing to try to get reimbursement. Just looking at the end of viduals, the reimbursement and the billing for a segment of individuals in that thirteen to seventeen age group who were coded for precocious puberty, which makes no sense from the years twenty fifteen to twenty twenty five, over eleven million dollars and potentially fraudulent billity big business. 00:47:18 Speaker 3: We're talking here, Yeah, Admiral, this is this is so great what you're doing, and it kind of strikes me as similar to what we're seeing in the DEI space with colleges. They just change the name, they build it under a different you know whatever. Subhead and then they get to continue on with an ideological activist bent to their healthcare that's hurting people that Americans largely voted against. And and so you guys are doing heroes work here exposing the fraud that's harming America's children. So God bless you. I hope this. I hope this is just everywhere. I hope this gets headlines everywhere. You guys deserve it. Thank you so much, Admiral, thank you, Thank you. 00:47:58 Speaker 14: God bless y'all, and God bless orry looking President Trump. 00:48:04 Speaker 3: All right, Blake, let's take it to the emails. How are we doing over there? 00:48:07 Speaker 5: Oh, we're doing We're doing great. 00:48:08 Speaker 6: First of all, before we dive into all of the rousha ones, I want to shout out Troy or was it Troy here? 00:48:14 Speaker 5: Whipped? 00:48:15 Speaker 6: Uh No, sorry it was someone else it was, Buddy said dang. I keep missing the right the right one here. Someone actually emailed us about the the y REFI power cube and he says that I must protect it because an impostor may try to reclaim it. And so I'm going to protect the y Refi power cube thing. 00:48:33 Speaker 3: Now hold on, Lee says the y PCT, which is y refined power cube thingy historic past and ownership is clouded in mystery. The y PCT's final destiny is yet to be revealed, but one fact we do know is that it has made its way to you. Blake. Beware Blake. Many undeserving and questionable impostors Andrew will make a fallacious claim of ownership. It's not by happenstance that the YPCT has found its way to you. 00:48:58 Speaker 5: I'm going free Lee to protect you. 00:49:00 Speaker 3: Obviously, you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Lee. Listen, even though you watch this show doesn't mean you're right okay, And that's one example of it. What other emails our people? 00:49:10 Speaker 5: We got a lot, We got a lot. 00:49:12 Speaker 6: I liked Buddy who said of Ruysia, the only thing better would be had if off you had exited the comfort of your bigoted chairs and done that story from one knee. Do better next time, amen, buddy. We are always trying to improve. We you know, we're imperfect people. We ask for you to be, to be merciful. Troy says, that was the best interview with Ruysia White I have seen yet. How did you keep a street face straight face? Well, we have our straight faces. Yes, that's why we have to be real. 00:49:45 Speaker 3: It's it's very clear in my siss straightness, I felt like that was the least I could do for Roysia in her gender journey, right, And I you know, I'm learning, I'm evolving. I want to be supported of black trans lesbians in their journey. And that's that's the bottom line. I think we all need to do better out there. Buddy, did we get an emails on the on the A lot we got? 00:50:12 Speaker 5: We got a lot. Let's see, we got to make sure. Let's see, we we got a bunch of those. 00:50:17 Speaker 16: Uh. 00:50:18 Speaker 6: Bernard points out in the Catholic Church, we are taught that surrogacy is a great moral evil. 00:50:23 Speaker 5: That is correct. That's that's what I was alluding to. 00:50:25 Speaker 6: What the Catholic Church are, you know, consistently says is that having babies other than the conventional traditional way it commoditizes human life. It treats individual human beings as a thing that you manufacture, as a thing that has bought and sold. Uh, And that it that it is an evil thing. That's why you're actually also told not to do IVF as an example, And I know that's controversial. With a lot of people, but that is the church's point of view. Uh, Peggy says, my thoughts on surrogacy and IVF are they are against God's plan. So here we have a couple who had problems having a baby. Now they have a surrogate mother. The baby is not perfect by their standards, so they wanted to dispose of the child. I say, they don't deserve a child, and maybe that is why they were unable to have one in the first place. 00:51:17 Speaker 5: I mean, that's even part of it. We say people who are unable to but let's be blunt. 00:51:21 Speaker 6: There are people who have who use surrogates because they just don't want to go through with pregnancy that you know, the mom thinks that'll you know, it'll be draining, it'll make her less attractive. Those are reasons people do that sort of thing, and we see the ultimate outcome of those things, which is the discarding of a human life because it's broken, it's not perfect. 00:51:42 Speaker 5: I should say, because we have a few people. 00:51:45 Speaker 6: Someone says, you know, someone Rachel smoke for a lot of people, blake, what the heck is going on? This has to be fake, right, So we should clarify because we did get a few emails from people. Yes, that segment was satirical. Yes, we are not in favor of non sports. 00:52:01 Speaker 3: I am I'm standing with my black trans lesbian queens. I'm getting better blake. First Timothy two fifteen states, yet she will be saved through child bearing if they continue in faith and love and holiness with self control. People hate that verse, by the way, it's like one of the most It's like right up there with women submit to your husbands. There is something profound, though, that happens to a woman that raises and fosters life inside of her womb and gives birth to that baby. There's something profound and divine that happens. And so don't run away from First Timothy two fifteen women. Yet, she will be saved through childbearing if they continue in faith and love and holiness with self control. It is largely considered one of the most difficult and debated versus in the New Testament, and yet it's in there. So don't deny the verses. Don't hate me for telling you what the Bible is saying. But child bearing is a beautiful thing, right. It is something that transforms people. And so if you're going to farm it out rent a womb you were missing. The journey is part of the entire goal of this whole thing, right that the journey. It's not the destination sometimes not getting the baby that's really beautiful and everything. Don't get me wrong. I have three kids myself and it's beautiful and I love them. But the process of a husband and wife going through that journey together is so important. Now my heart goes out to people that are not able to have their own child. It genuinely goes out to them. And so that's why I stated earlier, and I'm going to vou of this audience that I will educate myself on a final determination. I'm not yet ready to say that I want to ban it all, but man, I'm super tempted to. But I got to look into it more and talk to talk to some folks. But I'm super tempted to because it just feels unnatural, it feels weird, and I'm not in support of gay couples doing it one hundred percent. I think we so often put the needs, wants, and concerns of adults way ahead of the needs, wants and concerns of children. 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That's the letter why then refi dot com. And remember why Refi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to Wyrefi dot com and tell them your friend Andrews sent you. All right with us? Now is Colin Plume from Noble Gold. He's our resident financial expert, gives us the lowdown on the economy, and he also can help you with precious metals of course. But Colin, you want to come on in a testament to Winston Churchill, which I thought was beautiful. And on August twentieth it's going to be the anniversary of the Fuse speech and this is the Battle of Britain with that famous famous line where never was so much owed by so many to so few. Tell us why this means so much to you and why you wanted to come on to discuss it. 00:55:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good to see you guys. 00:55:50 Speaker 4: Blake. 00:55:51 Speaker 17: I thought this would be fun. I know, we always get into pressures medals, which I love to talk about, and we can tie it in later. But I the reason I wanted to talk about this is is a few things. One, it's the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of our country, and there's so many documentaries talking about our presidents talking about World War Two. 00:56:11 Speaker 2: I think literally almost every night. 00:56:13 Speaker 17: For the past six months, I've been watching some of these and Charlie and I had some conversations about Churchill, and so I've been watching a lot about Churchill, and I think it's important to think about these things and think about Churchill. And it's the eighty sixth anniversary of this very famous speech. And yeah, Blake, what are your thoughts on Churchill? Charlie, you know, I know, I'm sure you had a lot of conversations. 00:56:38 Speaker 6: About It's funny because now you have some people on the right left to dump on Churchill, but Charlie was always a big fan, and I think you can. In fact, i'm looking, I was looking around here. We have a Winston Churchill kind of plaster head and it's got headphones on up there. If I just dro over this day, we have Winston Churchill reading one of his radio addresses. There might be another Churchill thing somewhere around here, but we have a we have a surprising amount of it. He really liked him, and I think it's because Churchill embodied a spirit that Charlie loved. You think of we've been discussing this week, is America able to make sacrifices in order to achieve a better country in the future, Like, for example, are we able to do deportations if it means a burrito will be slightly more expensive due to labor costs. And I look at some of Churchill's speeches that not even the one we're marking on here. But he goes to the House of Commons and says, you know, I have nothing to offer you but blood, toil, tears and sweat. And he's saying, you know, we will fight them on the beaches, we will fight them in the hills and trees and in the landing grounds. 00:57:40 Speaker 5: We shall never surrender. Charlie loved that line, never surrender. 00:57:45 Speaker 6: But we're talking about the few speech, which is another thing that Charlie could always respect, the idea that it could be a handful of people who are holding the line between civilization and its destruction. So let's play the clip I think we got it loaded here. Let's play twenty three. 00:58:05 Speaker 18: The gratitude of every home in our island, in our empire, and indeed throughout the world, except in the abodes. 00:58:13 Speaker 4: Of the guilty. 00:58:14 Speaker 18: Go talk to the British airman who, undaunted by odd and were it in their constant challenge and mortal danger, are turning the tide of the World War by their promise and by that devotion. Never in the field of human conflict was so much old by so many to so few. 00:58:38 Speaker 17: It's a great quote. And he came up, actually he said it. It just came out of him. For a lot of people are toware. It came out of him four days earlier. He was just watching what was happening with the war, and it just that quote came out. And then he realized, like, I need to use this in his speech. And really, you know, for people don't know that the pilots during the war for great bittain. 00:59:01 Speaker 2: I mean, they really saved them. If the pilots weren't so. 00:59:06 Speaker 17: Sophisticated and so good at their job, the war could have turned because they really the pilots are the ones that kept the Nazis out. And so he was giving praise and then he also gives praise to the guys on the ground that we're also helping the pilots. 00:59:24 Speaker 2: It's it's just a really amazing speech. 00:59:27 Speaker 17: Also, the thing about Charlie that I wanted to touch on is something happened is he mentioned he talked about Churchill after the FBI searched mar A Lago, and he has a famous quote, and I think this quote and what it means is really kind of sums up Charlie in a lot of way. His quote Charlie said, how do we channel these famous words to determine what we conservative dissonance should do next peacefully? And I think that's a lot of what Charlie was about. It was like, how do we not agree and how do we you know, talk about it? How do we have these conversations and and still be able to move past it and have this open dialogue. And so that quote, really it sits with me, this idea of Charlie and why he like Churchill, and really Churchill kept Great Britain. They kept the war going. A lot of it through his will, a lot of it through his words, a lot of it through his belief, which is sort of what you were alluding to, Blake. People don't realize that he was, you know, trying to keep this. He knew that we had to stay, he had to keep fighting people in Great Britain. They wanted to a lot of the people in Parliament they wanted to They wanted to do a peace agreement with Hitler. 01:00:40 Speaker 2: They wanted to it. 01:00:41 Speaker 6: Obviously, I think that that's worth providing the historical context there. If you haven't seen the movie Darkest Hour, it has it's imperfect history, but it gets the general vibe, which is Churchill, for example, wasn't even the first pick as Prime minister. There was another guy, Lord Halifax was another contender, and he favored or at least he was much more open to negotiating with Hitler. 01:01:02 Speaker 5: This is the situation. 01:01:04 Speaker 6: Germany has conquered Poland, they've conquered the Netherlands, They've conquered Belgium, Norway, Denmark, they are steamrolling France. They look invincible. And yes, Britain has this big empire, but it's all centered on this little island that's just standing alone off the coast of Europe. And a lot of people would say make peace. 01:01:23 Speaker 5: John F. 01:01:24 Speaker 6: Kennedy's father was saying, I think they need to make peace. A lot of people thought so, and Churchill said, well, no, Hitler is an enemy of civilization. He will drag all of Europe into the byss. We will we will fight him to the bitter end if we must, but we are. 01:01:39 Speaker 5: Able to win this. 01:01:40 Speaker 6: And I just like to provide all of that context because people love to blackpill all of the time, and Charlie was a fighter. Charlie was the one who always believed never surrender. As Churchill would say, go down to the bitter end. And he would love to remind people it's been worse than this before. And there have been great men in the past. And you you, the person watching, the person listening to this, can be one of those great people who steps in the line today. 01:02:06 Speaker 3: Well, Churchill delivered this famous address to the House of Commons on August twentieth, nineteen forty, okay, and what he was doing was praising the Royal Air Force fighter pilots who fought the German You're gonna have to help me with the Luftwaffe day and nights. This was an aerial dog fight, and you had these young British boys that, like you know, had just been pulled off the street not too long ago, and here they are engaging in dog fights with the most formidable air force in the world at that point. And France had just fallen Blake on June and June of nineteen forty, so two months later, not even just. 01:02:42 Speaker 6: France, Churchill is this, this is Britain's experience. Every day German planes fly over London bombing, fly to Coventry bombit and that's who the few are. A few fighter pilots are all they have. They literally only have a few hundred of These are their only defense against this vast continents resources being thrown at them. 01:03:03 Speaker 3: And well and Blake got I gotta give a shout out. This was the last surviving This was the last surviving Royal Air Force fighter of the few two fifty five. Throw this up. This was John Patty Hemingway, the last surviving pilot of the Battle of Britain, passed away at the age of one hundred and five. Look at that guy in his wheelchair right in front of one of those planes. He was one of the few, and that was he died last May and twenty twenty five. Colin, yes, please yeah. 01:03:31 Speaker 17: To To give context, Britain had seven hundred and fifty planes and German had two thy five hundred and fifty planes. I mean this was a real we were Britain was outmatched right in terms of just total manpower. But they had a belief and they had a belief in something good and they and they knew they needed to continue to fight. And Churchill, you know this idea of the few. He was the few, right, I mean, the US was still not engaged in this war. He was, you know, doing everything account can to get the United States engaged in this war because he knew that it was the right thing, and he knew he needed the United States, he needed our manpower, he needed us to get involved. And obviously we were unfortunately we did get involved or fortunately depending on what side you're on, but we did get involved after Pearl Harbor. So I think that it's this idea of continuing this belief, and it's and I and I will say it, I do think it's a lot of what you guys are doing on your show is you're continuing this belief when there's a lot of things happening around you that make it difficult, you know, and you guys take a lot of heat, and there's you know, there's and but yet you're continuing this mission of Charlie. And and that was really why I wanted to talk about this today. Is I just think it's it's sometimes it's really hard with everything happening out there, everything that's going on in your guys' world, to continue to kind of push forward and do the right thing and say the right things and be above the fray, right, Like, I think that's the hardest thing, you know, Andrew, you and I have talked about, like how do you stay rise above all this? And I think you guys are doing that. And that's why I wanted to talk about Churchill because. 01:05:09 Speaker 2: He had this drive. 01:05:12 Speaker 17: And that's what I miss about Charlie, frankly is I missed that drive, just our conversation, that energy that he could just continue to push down no matter what was happening around him. 01:05:24 Speaker 2: And yeah, I missed that from him. 01:05:29 Speaker 1: Churchill's speech was given at a time when it seemed as if there was no hope. London was being bombed relentlessly. Churchill took to radio and said, we will never surrender. We'll fight on the beaches, We'll fight on the landing rounds. What was Churchill really articulating there. Churchill was articulating a doctrine and a commitment of the will. Well Churchill was articulating is that you might outnumber us, you might have better technology, but the resolve of the British people will not be broken. Without Churchill, I believe the United Kingdom would have sued for peace. Took someone like Churchill remarkably wise and charismatic person who is exiled at an early age but was brought back when people needed him. 01:06:19 Speaker 3: There it is that's obviously Charlie talking about the never surrender speech, which is another famous Churchill speech. So after this dogfight, the Hitler in the Nazis were so frustrated by the British that they ended up engaging in the blitz, right, And that's what Churchill's responding to there. They said, we'll never surrender, even though every night everybody has to rush down into the bomb shelters and run for cover in the in the tube, in the subways of London. It was a truly remarkable display of fortitude and courage. And Blake, I can't help but think about, you know, this roofing comment that it's going viral right now on the internet, one of Charlie's last speeches to a roofer's convention, and he's asking them, are you willing to sacrifice a little bit for our sovereignty to restore the rule of law? And these roofers are like, we won't have enough people to you know, put roofs on houses. And it just strikes me if like the World War two spirit, and you can you could say, look around, is the same country, same civilization still standing? That's worth putting your life on the line. And that's listen. I don't begrudge anybody to asking that question. But this is my home, this is your home, call, and this is Blake's home. And Charlie would often say, we don't fight because we know we're gonna win. We fight because it's the right thing to do. And I hope we still have that spirit, that fighting spirit the Churchill had that Charlie had in enough of in enough of us, in the hearts of enough Americans that will fight and sacrifice for this country, Colin. But your reaction, yeah, yeah, No. 01:07:46 Speaker 17: I think the interesting thing too, if you look at some of the great you know, if you took it after World War Two, and you know, in all those years running up probably I would say until the mid nineteen seventies, it was you know, obviously they call them the Greatest generation. It was also some of the greatest wealth for individuals that we've ever seen. And it's interesting I think, like after we won, obviously there was devastation and there was you know, countries that took it took many years and actually, you know, Great Britain was in a really terrible place and they were the world's reserve currency. And then in nineteen forty four there was brett Woods Exchange and we became the world's reserve currency and we pegged gold at thirty five dollars an ounce to the dollar. 01:08:32 Speaker 2: But there was a lot of real wealth. 01:08:35 Speaker 17: And what I mean by wealth is that that was the time when one income, you know, have both parents at home, people could afford a house. 01:08:44 Speaker 2: You know, the gold and the dollar were tied together. 01:08:46 Speaker 17: There was after we did this, we took this and everyone did this unbelievable sacrifice that everyone that fought in this war, we saw some of the greatest personal wealth for the middle class that I think, arguably we've ever seen. And that was, you know, only because we won. If we went in a different way and we lost that war, we would have fallen under a dictatorship, and you know, it would have been, you know, a really terrible situation. And obviously now we're talking about socialism, all these things that people are talking about today, But there was tremendous wealth that was built after this, and well. 01:09:24 Speaker 3: You know, and it's actually a really important conversation and Blake, I'd love your take on this. But there's a difference between material wealth and social fabric, right, and sometimes these two things get conflated together. Social fabric would be like, hey, you share the values in the language of the people in your neighborhood. You don't have to pay extra to send them to a better school. You know that other people are going to church celebrating Christmas, Easter or whatever. And you do have these two family homes and the mom can't stay home, and you could send your kids to public school because they haven't gone crazy. Like, these are the things if you want that social fabric. 01:09:56 Speaker 6: Is based on a perfect example. There's a book I read. It's a less One by George Orwell. He wrote nineteen eighty four Homage to Catalonia. But he also wrote a very short book around shortly after World War II that was called The English People, and it's him describing he actually was commissioned to do it by the government, describing the English national character. And one of the things he brags about in this book is he talks about the Blitz and he said, one of the remarkable things about the Blitz was you could have a man on a street corner who's selling newspapers, and he wouldn't have to worry about leaving, about just leaving his papers and his money out to go somewhere else, to go into a shop somewhere for a moment he could come back, he would know it would all still be there, no one would ever think of robbing him. He talked about how people who were running into the tube tunnels, the subway tunnels during the blitz bombing raids a lot. The norm was they would still buy their ticket to get into the tube area, as they would do that, and you think of them doing that while under siege, while being bombed, and you compare it, of course to the Britain of today, which we worry so much about. And it's because it's still it's a very rich country. It's got access to more goods, more wealth than it probably did at the height of World War Two. But the fabric has been messed up because they've embraced mass immigration. They've embraced a sort of resentful crabs in a bucket socialism as well. And now like a guy couldn't leave his money line out, you can't even play your phone out safely in London. Someone will rob you something has changed in Britain and it's because they threw away their post war leaders after Churchill threw away a lot of that social fabric. 01:11:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed. Yeah, and in this cunture. 01:11:32 Speaker 17: I don't know if you guys have seen this stat about there's twelve hundred new millionaires every day here. But yet they also say that people feel less rich than they've ever felt. And I think it's not just monetarily. I think it's this idea of this safety and what's happening in their community. It's I also think they're less rich because the dollar's worth so much less. But I do think part of it is just that social fabric that you guys are talking about, is that they don't feel they don't feel connected to their community the way that they used to. A lot of it is we've gone away from, you know, having both parents home and the household and religion. I think a lot of this gave people structure that's really missing. 01:12:12 Speaker 9: Now. 01:12:13 Speaker 17: People are just they're they're working more, they're stretched more, and and so that's you know, I think one of the issues today that we're running into is that just that social family fabric is really missing. 01:12:25 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it. Yeah, it's all led up to this and it's it's you know, I think it's just church really focused on that. 01:12:31 Speaker 3: Colin. I totally agree, and I just want to reiterate, this is why you are our partner in this space, because you know, other groups have approached us whatever. We're sticking with, Colin, because this is like these good people and I hope I know people can really get that just by hearing you talk, Colin. If people do want to protect their wealth, where do they go? 01:12:48 Speaker 4: Tell them? 01:12:49 Speaker 3: Really quick, last thirty second. 01:12:50 Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, check out Noblegold Investments dot com. You can call us, go to our website. We have people there, the good Americans, people that believe in and sound money principles, people that believe that we should get back to that situation. Gold's up ten percent over the last thirty days. Silver is starting to move, so I think it's a good time for people to get in. But yeah, if they want to learn, give us a call and love to help you and get some real money when gold is real money, and get some real money in your hands. 01:13:19 Speaker 3: Yeah. And by the way, I have to correct you, Colin, it's Noblegoldinvestments dot com slash Kirk. So I just want to I want to make sure of it. He gets it right. Colin Plume, CEO, founder of Noble Gold, great American. Thank you, Colin. We'll talk to you soon. 01:13:39 Speaker 5: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com