Remembering Two Heroes, New York Times Anti-News, and AMA 258

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He's one of the last great action stars. 00:01:52 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think he was a lot. He was older than people expected. I mean, late eighties. I feel he became super I feel like I associate him with the nineties Walker Texas Ranger. I associate him, of course, with a lot of the Internet humor that happened in the mid two thousands, and by then he was already a pretty old guy. 00:02:11 Speaker 5: Uh. 00:02:12 Speaker 4: Quite the impressive figure. 00:02:13 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:02:14 Speaker 3: So The Octagon nineteen eighty I for Anye nineteen eighty one, Silent Rage nineteen eighty two, Lone Wolf Wolf McQuaid nineteen eighty three Missing An Action one through three, and that was from eighty five to eighty eight Code of Silence Invasion USL. 00:02:28 Speaker 4: Saw those it's Walker Texas Ranger man. 00:02:31 Speaker 2: Yeah wow, and then he yeah, that was the nineties. Yeah, but that's because of your age. 00:02:35 Speaker 3: So he actually he was one of the most accomplished karate champions in the history of the sport, became a star with good guys where black He actually was in scenes with Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee cast him in the nineteen seventy two film Way of the Dragon, So there's those clips right there. So he he was a phenomenal athlete and actually an accomplished martial artist, and then he became, as. 00:03:03 Speaker 2: You know, the a star. 00:03:05 Speaker 3: And then he took it to Walker Texas Ranger, which ran two hundred episodes on CBS, which is pretty remarkable. And even up until his eighty six birthday, he posted a video training insparring at eighty six. So the guy was just se machine. I mean, to be doing that at eighty six is special. 00:03:23 Speaker 4: But obviously we don't just like him because he was a you know, a martial arts, a movie star guy. We like to highlight these guys. He was a patriot. And I think I remember actually catching a lot of people off guard because this was the this is the Bush ero which was a peak of everyone in Hollywood, every celebrity, being left wing. And this is when all the jokes are going down on the internet. If you're under twenty, you may not know these things. There was this whole trend of making you know, viral Chuck Norris jokes saying when Chuck Norris does a push up, he's not pushing himself up, he's pushing the earth down. When Chuck Norris jumps in water, he doesn't get wet, The water gets Chuck Norse. There's like a hundred of these different jokes. And this is what passed for humor in the Bush era. But as I said, it was very it was a very liberal time. 00:04:09 Speaker 6: Then. 00:04:10 Speaker 4: Very few celebrities, even if they were right leaning, would openly say so. And then it's it's early two thousand and eight. It's the primaries for the presidency and Mike Huckabee is running for president, making a long shot bid, and he's campaigning in Iowa. And it turns out that Chuck Norris is a Mike Huckabee supporter, and they cut one of the more memorable ads I think we will ever see in the history of American politics. Should we just play it? It's clip number one. 00:04:43 Speaker 7: My plan is secure the border. Two words Chuck Norris. 00:04:51 Speaker 4: Mike Kuckaby is a lifelong hunter. 00:04:53 Speaker 1: We'll protect our Second Amendment rights. 00:04:56 Speaker 7: There's no chin behind Chuck Norris's beard, only another fist. Mike Kuckaby wants to put the Iris out of business. When Chuck Norris does a push up, he isn't lifting himself up, He's pushing the earth down. 00:05:09 Speaker 2: Mike's a principled, authentic conservative. 00:05:13 Speaker 7: Chuck Norris doesn't endorse. He tells America how it's gonna be him Ike Kuckabee and I approve this message, So did Chuck. 00:05:24 Speaker 2: Chuck Norris approved. It's pretty good for two thousand and eight. 00:05:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I should add you know, Chuck Norris was a Christian. I think he wrote several I think he wrote Christian books, you know, in addition to any memoirs, But. 00:05:42 Speaker 3: He also came He wrote eloquently about his political beliefs for years, and in twenty sixteen he actually tried to rally everybody around President Trump. Obviously, this was an era of never trump Ism. The party was very divided. It was sort of a hostile takeover the conservative movement. And he said, if reluctant Republicans and other freedom loving citizens don't rally now behind GOP nominee Donald Trump, we could elect Hillary Clinton by default or by those who merely stay home on election Day. And he said he'd only met Trump once forty two years prior during his retirement event at the World Martial Arts Champion. 00:06:20 Speaker 2: That was it quote. 00:06:21 Speaker 3: I haven't seen or spoken to him since, However, I will tell you I liked him. 00:06:25 Speaker 2: He was very friendly and sincere. 00:06:27 Speaker 3: I truly believe that the people who have a negative view of Trump will be pleasantly surprised when he becomes the leader of our country. So Chuck Norris was not only courageous when it came to fighting in the octagon, well, I wasn't. The octagon was a mix, it was martial arts. He was a karate champion. But he was courageous when it came to expressing his own beliefs. The true American icon dead at eighty six. He will be missed. I also want to pay attention to draw some of your attention to Jeff Webb. Jeff Webb was the founder of var City Brands. He was a friend of Charlie's, a friend of Turning Points. He died at seventy six yesterday tragically sporting accident. 00:07:08 Speaker 2: And he is just a dear, dear friend of mine for. 00:07:12 Speaker 3: Years, always faithful, always kind, always generous with his time. 00:07:17 Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and play some clips. 00:07:19 Speaker 3: We actually did a Only in America documentary about Jeff Webb. 00:07:22 Speaker 2: At one point, play a cut four. 00:07:25 Speaker 8: Jeff webbitts kind of the personification of the American dream. 00:07:29 Speaker 4: So I'm joined now by Jeff Webb, who is the founder and creator of Varsity Spirit. 00:07:36 Speaker 7: And Shower saving young people. 00:07:40 Speaker 9: Two. 00:07:44 Speaker 3: He created a whole brand where none existed around high school cheer, created competitions. 00:07:51 Speaker 2: Didn't do it to get rich. 00:07:53 Speaker 3: He just wanted to give young people an opportunity where they could have community, where they could share values, where they could compete, eat. And he's truly an all American story of success. Let's play cut five. 00:08:05 Speaker 10: What drives us is doing something great and building a great organization and really making a contribution to young. 00:08:12 Speaker 6: People in this country. 00:08:14 Speaker 10: Young people today are not lazy. 00:08:16 Speaker 6: Because some people like to say. 00:08:17 Speaker 4: Millennials just they're not lazy. I work with thousands of them every year. 00:08:21 Speaker 2: They're not lazy. 00:08:23 Speaker 6: They they just they need some help in finding their way, and they need some help with our institutions and making them more available to everybody. 00:08:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a real big loss for the Turning Point family. Jeff Webb been around for years. As a matter of fact, the first event I ever went to with Turning Point and Charlie, Jeff was there. So Jeff predates my time with Charlie and Turning Point and as just a genuinely good hearted, kind man, generous man, and again passed away too soon at seventy six Sporting Act. And it's a reminder that we never know when your time is gonna come, and to live each day to the fullest and be grateful for the time that we have with the people that we love. A terrible reminder of it, genuinely. He also at one point was the publisher and owner of the Post Millennial and Human Events, so he was always in the fight. 00:09:25 Speaker 2: Spring cleaning season is here. 00:09:27 Speaker 3: It is spring, after all, and if you're like most people, you've got boxes of old VHS tapes, cam quarter videos and photos just taking up space. Here's the problem. Those tapes, in those photos, they're not getting any younger. They fade over time, and if you can't watch or share them, they're just clutter. That's why we love Legacy Box. 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And by the way, I'm passionate about what I just saw. So we don't have a prep for the show. But leave it. Leave it to this small tease. There will be no post presidential piece for Donald Trump. They are actively plotting to impeach President. 00:10:52 Speaker 4: We'll get into that section project because we I mean, we've got a lot, so the one I want to hit. There's there's endlessly to fixate on the press. But this is the one that got my attention because it was going around today. It's actually from a couple days ago, but it's getting attention today. It's an essay in the New York Times. We study mass shooters. Something terrifying is happening online. And when I first saw the headline, I thought, oh, well, this is great. Maybe the New York because New York Times will sometimes come in very belatedly and they will admit a trend that is going on, and like give for the left to notice things. And we've noticed a certain trend among shooters, which is we have transgender shooters right now that are radicalized on discord, on Tumbler, on Reddit, on these various spaces they're getting more violent, they're getting more demented, They're really being enabled. But the New York Times summarizes it this way. I'm going to read a pretty extended excerpt from this. We are witnessing the emergence of a new paradigm. A mass shooter, no less despairing about life's hardships, but younger, highly connected to online social networks, and seemingly convinced that enacting violently, he or she is carrying out the only meaningful act possible in a world devoid of meaning. Consider a recent example. Last month in tumblr Ridge, British Columbia, an eighteen year old killed her mother and half brother at home, then opened fire at a secondary school she attended, killing five students and an educator. In the aftermath of the shooting, amid expected evidence of the shooter's despair, there emerged an alarming trail of online activity on roadblocks. The shooter had created a game simulating a mass shooting. Her TikTok account reportedly featured reposted videos of a mass shooter. She belonged to a gore forum where users can post uncensored videos of violence, and so on and so on. Never mentioned anywhere in this article is the syllable trans Never mentions that this woman who did this shooting was actually a biological male who had become convinced that she was a woman and then also became convinced that she had to do a mass shooting. Later in the article, there was they mentioned in the Annunciation Catholic School last August, a twenty three year old fired through the windows of Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis. She killed two children and wounded more than twenty others. The inscriptions on her weapons told the story of the online community of which she had been a part, and then they mentioned quoting the Columbine shooters and so on. Again, never mentions this is a transgender shooter. Never once, so Andrew, this is just it's such a perfect example of this pattern that exists in the modern press. And call it, you might call it boring news, anti news. You can read all of this, you can learn all of these facts, and yet unless you're like us, where you know the background of this, you're basically being actively misled because they are not telling you something. The authors of this story one hundred percent new, and they are taking efforts to avoid sharing it with you. It's like when you read a New York Times article that I'll talk about a major crime that's committed, and they have to wait until eighteen paragraphs in before you tell them they mentioned their name, or they might mention that they're a migrant, they're not from the United States. It's just it's truly unbelievable. 00:14:26 Speaker 3: It kind of reminds me of our conversation with Lydia moynihan from The New York Post yesterday, because she has to face these people on CNN every day, where she described, you know, some of the reporting that you had to do in the mainstream press to ultimately, you know, tell the truth. You had to eventually acknowledge the truth, and all these journalists were loathed to do it. Nobody wanted that assignment because they would essentially not be allowed back into polite society and the cocktail parties in the Acela corridor. So this is one thing to understand about the mainstream news media. It's like a giant, mean girls club out of high school. 00:15:05 Speaker 2: So these people refuse. 00:15:07 Speaker 3: To acknowledge a basic fundamental biological truth that these are not women that are shooting up these schools or houses or whatever. These are men. These are violent men that have been diluted by a brain rot to think that they are women, and by lots and lots of medications that are being pumped into their bodies, twisting their brain, twisting their mind, and they won't admit a basic, fundamental truth that could actually get to the bottom of it and maybe make it stop. So, if your goal in reporting is to expose truth and to affect the world and make it a better place, you're abandoning your central reason for being simply because you want to keep getting invited to other cocktail parties or get that next job. It's actually pretty disgraceful the amount of lying that goes on in the propaganda the agit prop here, And at some level you just have to say, are you doing this intentionally to upset us because you know you you know the underlying truth of this story and refused to report it. It's it's a bastardization of the calling, which is a high calling to report truth, and most of these people have no concept of what that truth is, and it's it's disgusting. 00:16:16 Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm not shocked, though. 00:16:18 Speaker 4: Blake to be to be fair, yeah, no, I mean it's not shocking. It's a core element of the press, especially if you're the New York Times, because a lot of news outlets they're just you know, scrambling to get whatever clicks they can. The New York Times actually has the institutional power and it is well aware of it to shape what it is okay to believe, what it's now acceptable to talk about, what is it's what it's unacceptable to talk about. And you know, Charlie himself, he liked to point out that this is like the big sacred cow. Is this like transgender cult that is devouring the nation's children. And even when they're willing to come out and say so and say that there's this new dark shooting online, they can't mention the giant elephant in the room. In fact, let's play that very quick before the break to clip ten. 00:17:09 Speaker 1: Trans people have been made into kind of the sacred cow of American politics. You can't question it, you can't criticize it, and they believe they can threaten whoever they want. This is the ultimate top of the Impression Olympics. How many dead kids is it going to take for us to say we've probably gone too far here and we should just ask a couple of questions, how many mass shootings have to happen where we probably say, wait a second, you know, can we just calm down all right? 00:17:37 Speaker 2: Without further ado. 00:17:38 Speaker 3: Steve Dace is the man really just become a great friend and a trusted voice sounding board. So Steve, welcome to the Charlie Kirkshow welcome back. I tempted to ask you about your bracket, because you are a big sports guy, but we already know it's disaster because everything's terrible on the bracketology this year, everything up, so we'll. 00:18:01 Speaker 2: Just skip that. 00:18:01 Speaker 3: I want to know, how are you interpreting this moment that we are in right There is a big debate about how divided MAGA is. 00:18:08 Speaker 6: What do you think I think on a high level, where the last outpost of Western civilization, where all that's left or you know, sometimes we used to call it Christendom before we gave it that term. And so I think that there is a unique spiritual war happening right now for the direction of this country. And I think that's the backdrop of everything. And then I think we're coming out of really maybe since you know, you have that period during the sixties Gulf of Tonkin, JFK, MLK assassinations, RFK assassinations. That's before any of our lifetimes. I wasn't alive yet. My mom was just a teenager when all that was going on. So in our era, this is the last five years beginning with the events of COVID on March sixteenth, twenty twenty. The last five years collectively is the most that any any of this generation of Americans has been systemically live too. That's broken a lot of our abilities to trust and to think. Skepticism and nihilism often get confused for one another. One is healthy, one is not. 00:19:10 Speaker 2: And then on on on top. 00:19:12 Speaker 6: Of that, you know, we have this last generation of the church just kind of took the generation off kind of from the original religious rite in Francis Schaeffer. You know, we decided to sell Hawaiian shirts with Rick Warren and you know, books with Joel Osteen and plant to churches in cities like New York like tim Keller and have like no cultural influence at all. Okay, in the most important city in America, and now it's an Islamist refuge, right, So yeah, and then the schools decided we can't critically think anymore, because then the kids may outthink us and the very dogmas we're trying to impress upon them. So when you stir all of that into a witch's brew and into a cauldron, guys, and you pour it out, I think you have the current ecosystem that we're all operating in. And then on top of that, we had who many of us thought was going to be our generational leader here assassinated. And so when you throw that, so now the fulcrum of this, the plum, the plumb line, you know that that I've talked about that, I think every time I've been on here with you guys since Charlie's murder, that meme of Charlie as the giant hoover like dam holding back right wing retardation and then so we can learn to unite and win. And so when you throw all that in here, I think that's where you have this witch's brew that explains a lot of the various trend lines and headlines that we're seeing right now. 00:20:27 Speaker 2: Blake your thoughts. 00:20:29 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to muscle in on uh you guys Protestant territory here, but the Catholics have long had a different approach obviously, I mean, obviously we want to affect the culture, but there's much more of course, uh unity of organization. But uh, I guess what I have definitely appreciated in this cultural moment is like we've had that, we've had that the dissession, especially on the Thursday Show, Like is America culturally a Protestant country or should it be even even kind of among the Catholics? And I actually think it basically is. One thing I've become very alert to is the way that Catholics in America are very different from Catholics abroad, Like we'll have our sort of special Latin parishes and all of the Latin only ones, like where you definitely get groups that still want to affect the culture by breaking away from it a little more and being more assertive. And we do need to have that. 00:21:26 Speaker 2: H yeah. I mean it's interesting. 00:21:29 Speaker 3: I wasn't even interpreting anything of what Steve said in a Protestant versus Catholic sort of the. 00:21:36 Speaker 4: Rick war and the church planning stuff. I guess you don't have a Catholic church plant operation. And it's it's kind of funny, like there is a lot of chatter about it, how that works, and like, you know, the flow, but you know, churches rise and fallen, decay. It's just it's it's something I've become very alert to, just really in the past year learning about it. And so I was, you know, I was listening to a podcast about the history of that. It's just it's very new to me. 00:21:58 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting. 00:21:59 Speaker 3: I did Rostaalfitz podcast New York Times columnists. He wrote a book called Bad Religion, and he talked about the vibrancy of the American Church throughout the years has been the fact that there is this sort of competition for PEU seats, right, so when one denomination sort of falls off and loses their way, then another one will tend to fill the gap. And that has been basically marked by reform theology. It's been marked by charismatics. Different denominations and church movements would come up and fill that void. And so, yeah, America does retain its Protestant sort of ethos, it's character, and I think that we have remained as vibrant as we have while the rest of the Western world has sort of fallen off because we have a competition for eyeballs I hate to put it that bluntly, but that's essentially what it is. And I think, you know, you think of the Book of Revelation when you talk about the the God will snuff out the stands, and you know, ones that are preaching the truth and lifting up the name of Jesus will take its place. I sort of am still holding on to the fact that there are revival type energies that we are seeing. And you've seen some of this in your neck of the woods as well, Steve. You know you've seen we did the pick up the mic tour that's come near your home, and we've done where we've got these make having crowded tour stops that are going all across the country. They're all packed out, And I mean, at some level, I hate to devolve the conversation to such a place, but we are at a point where we either get revival or I'm afraid of what the future will hold. 00:23:39 Speaker 6: I think we are firmly ensconced in revival or bust territory now the form of it. You know, we have a tendency. You know, there's a difference I always say between tradition and nostalgia. Tradition is where you look back on how you know truth, what's good, true and beautiful has worked itself out throughout human history. What the Creator is revealed are those things, And those things give you confidence that if applied in a contemporary way for the time in which you live, there timeless and can work again. 00:24:11 Speaker 2: Right. 00:24:11 Speaker 6: And so I view tradition as a motivating factor. I viewed nostalgia as a paralyzing one. So it's got to look exactly the same way that it looked before. Otherwise it's very foreign to us. And this can't be how things work. And so you know, when I say without another great awakening long term, we're doomed, it doesn't mean that it has to be the exact same playbook as the Great awakenings of the eighteenth century. But without that sort of systemic revival, I don't disagree. I mean, the systems are too far gone. We have and now a lot of our own people. I was with Lucas Miles, my good friend from TPUSA Faith yesterday at Alan Jackson's Church in Nashville and spoke to a group of pastors there and what I said to them, the number one thing we need you guys to do right now, frankly, is to teach our people how to think that even before now we get to what I want to do, which is worldview formation and belief installation. 00:25:06 Speaker 4: Do I have permission to think? 00:25:09 Speaker 6: And we're kind of in this era right now where I've been so betrayed by official sources that even when the guys I voted for now control the official sources, I still think they're betraying me. I mean they might be. I mean I don't know, but you know what would be the metric? You can't skepticism in and of itself. No, some reactionaryism is good, right someone breaks into your home and wants to harm you and your family, react right, don't just pontificate. 00:25:31 Speaker 2: React right. 00:25:32 Speaker 6: But if reactionaryism is all you do, right, well, So Lindsey Graham likes sherrock shakes too, So I'm just not going to have them anymore. I mean, we've got to have a more contemplation, you know, a more complicated and sophisticated epistemology than that. And I think that a lot of us in America right now don't know what to think or how to think. We just think we can't trust any of our thinkers. And we've got to fix that otherwise I'm not sure how we can sustain our ourselves moving forward. 00:26:01 Speaker 3: I mean, I I tend to think that we're in a sifting moment totally. I think I think this is why so many people look around and they don't know what to make of it. It's because it hasn't settled yet, and sometimes that just takes some time. And uh, you know, we went from a point where we said you can't trust the experts to we're going to only trust people that are not experts. I mean, if you think about that, yeah, there's downsides, you know, at some point. I remember, I'm reminded of a moment after Student Action Summit last year where Charlie took a bunch of incoming because at Student Action Summit we basically were as loud as anybody in the country about the Epstein files. We wanted to see transparency. It was basically what the whole event became about. And then on Monday Charlie told me, He's like, you know, I think they got the memo, and he said on the show, We're going to trust our friends in the government, meeting people that we helped get in place, and We're going to give them some. 00:27:00 Speaker 2: Bandwidth to go. 00:27:02 Speaker 6: Man. 00:27:02 Speaker 3: The blowback was instantaneous, and what he was saying is like, at some point we have to empower the people that we helped elect, that we helped put into positions of power to get this done and get it done the right way. We could argue till we're blue in the face whether that happened or not, but at some point there has to be a middle ground where people use common sense. 00:27:22 Speaker 2: And I don't know that where. 00:27:24 Speaker 3: I don't know that we're to a point where anybody's ready to do that yet. And I love what you're saying, Steve, is that we need to teach a whole generation to think again, to use their common sense. I want to I want to get into two things here in this segment. I want to I want you to distill that idea more why it's so important in this sifting moment that we find ourselves in. And then I want to lay out the stakes because there's a chilling new article out of New Republic, which is a far left rag, but they lay out the stakes here pretty clearly. They say there will be no post presidential peace for Donald Trump. They even compare his ends to in scandals and crimes with the shocking likeness of the charges laid out in the Declaration of Independence against the last American king. So the stakes could not be higher right now, and yes there's the graphic. There will be no peace for President Trump. My question to you is this sifting moment. What should our audience do with this moment of angst. 00:28:25 Speaker 6: Well, let's talk about what we think the sifting is. 00:28:27 Speaker 4: First. 00:28:28 Speaker 6: I think what you're seeing is I think COVID was a sifting. I think George Floyd was a sifting. I think the latest sifting is it was Charlie's assassination. And whenever you see I think that's God moving. You see this throughout the throughout the biblical narrative. I mean, the greatest sifting of all the formation of the Christian Church, right, Okay, And so whenever there's a sifting, it's because a mobilization is about to happen. But first, all right, the gardener's going to prune his guard. We're going to pluck some weeds out first. You know, the general is going to make sure that he has the right troops that are actually trained for the battle ahead. And that's a painful process, and we are undergoing this right now. And I think the sifting is will you will you put your faith in God and in his word, and then will you follow facts? I think that's the sifting that is taking place right now. Okay, because there's some real Matthew twenty twenty four stuff going on right now, which is man, if those days were not short and even the elect would be deceived. 00:29:25 Speaker 2: I mean, the. 00:29:26 Speaker 6: Amount of AI and everything else that's going on right now, the amount of false headlines that's going on that it's exposed right now. We've never been more bombarded with information in human history and more of it wrong than we are right now. 00:29:37 Speaker 4: Right And you know, I. 00:29:39 Speaker 6: Sometimes get these perpetual reactionaries to come back in me and say, well, we're only doing what you did during COVID, all right, Steve, And I'm like, no, you're not. What I did during COVID was actually take the government's own data and show they were lying to you. They weren't showing you their own data. I can't do a Sarah prevalence exam. I don't know how to do a study like that. I can't give you, you know, itemized more reality data on COVID, you know, broken down by demographic I don't have that data. 00:30:04 Speaker 4: I took it from the CDC. I took it from. 00:30:07 Speaker 6: Foreign government departments of health. And then I've shown the light on their data that they didn't want to show people. In other words, I used facts. I didn't do endless contemplative speculations and well, you know, just asking questions and maybe so's and did God really says? And that's what we're all kind of undergoing right now. And we're calling that critical thinking. And so I think we're watching a very painful sifting process go through. On our side and on their side, they are in lockstep right now. I mean, you have a fully formed, weaponized religion of the state, the spirit of the age, manifested in government. It has done this all throughout human history. It has manifested itself in human governments all throughout history. And you're watching that now happen in our history as well. And so I think what we should be praying for, frankly, guys, is for this sifting to speed up a little bit. All right, Lord, Can we get this sifting? Can we reach its conclusion? 00:30:59 Speaker 2: All right? 00:30:59 Speaker 6: So that we don't fear that we are falling so far behind here to the organized, to the organized evil we're up against, that we can't possibly catch up. 00:31:07 Speaker 4: Well, Steve, what I kind of find myself thinking in terms of the great sifting? It's as you say, we have the sifting in terms of what you know, are people able to maintain their call it maybe mental composure, mental discipline to not fall for fake things on one end, or complete propaganda on the other end. But I also think of the sifting like in in society itself, that everything is so disordering and disorienting to people. A lot of people are kind of crashing out of society. That's the you know, the aimless, lost youth. They're not able to get careers off the ground, they're not able to have families, they're not able to really muster communities together. And where I think a real sifting is taking place is people who are able to attach to a community like that. That used to be almost everyone, you know, there was some sort of community you could attach to. But now there are people who are just going to never have that happen. They will live their whole lives that way, and then the basically select out because they'll never have families they'll never have kids. And the little communities, which in many cases will be Christian communities, will be churches. They're going to have immense outsize uh importance, immense outsize power in the future, just because they will be the ones who held together while everything else is flying apart. 00:32:22 Speaker 6: That I think that's a that's a brilliant observation and forecast. Blake, I completely agree. And and I I think, on on one hand, the the older men, those of us entering our third act, play a huge role in this. You know, I've seen it with my own with my own son. All Right, he went looking for a job, didn't like this job, didn't like that job. Now he has a job that he really likes, right, and and and his entire perspective on I'm doing something that I enjoy, I'm contributing something, I'm earning a living. It's completely just uh. I mean, he's gotten reconnected back into the church again. He's involved in a in a really good adults group. He's actually going to a young adults group at another church. And so why is he doing that? Will you use that? That's the word that you use community, right, And so now he has found a work environment that he can be productive and rewarded for being productive and doesn't shame him for his belief system. And then he's going to places where he has peer groups that share his belief system and that sense of community, that sense of attachment. 00:33:22 Speaker 4: I mean, I can just see. 00:33:23 Speaker 6: His entire you know, outlook on things has dramatically improved just in the last couple of months because of everything that you just said. And I think it is imperative for us as older men now we have to finish I know I keep harping on this too because I think it keeps being true. We have to finish well. We have to show the younger men that if you stick to it. I mean, you know, my wife wants to write an autobiography. I married a mailroom clerk. That's what I was when we got married, all Right, the idea that I was going to do this for a living, or get to write best selling books or produce a movie or no one would have looked at the man that she married twenty eight years ago and thought that's how this was going to turn out, right, And all of us have some kinds of those success stories unless we truly are born into a handful of elite families, and so I think for the younger men to see us finish well, to finish the race, not trade in our wives for the thirty nine year old or forty two year old assistant. All right, not do something stupid or reckless with their inheritance, and in fact, maybe give it to them early when they're young and married and they're struggling when they really need it then, not when they're forty forty five and I'm dead, and by then they're probably probably or hopefully established. These are things that as the older generation, we need to be looking for. What are opportunities now to backfill retcon the American dream so that when we then say to the younger generation, hey, you know, sack up, get tougher, stick in there, we give them evidence of how you can still be successful if you do that. 00:34:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's beautiful. 00:34:47 Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more because everything that you both just described is going to be countered with countless online communities that will, you know, lead to brain rot and lead young people astray. And we have to be leading forth. Education is leading forth, leading towards the truth, the truth of. 00:35:06 Speaker 2: Scripture, the truth of our faith. Steve Dace. 00:35:09 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, my friend. I think this was actually a really important conversation. I hope the audience got a lot out of it. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. 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It's the ask us anything our you can do? 00:36:20 Speaker 4: Uh. 00:36:20 Speaker 3: You can take part in this if you join us at members dot Charliekirk dot com, members dot Charliekirk dot com. Help us keep the lights on. You guys mean the world to us. So you get to be a part of the show on Friday. Send your questions in. 00:36:33 Speaker 10: Uh. 00:36:33 Speaker 2: First question is Caleber Michelle love Caleber, Michelle. How are you guys? Welcome to the targe. 00:36:40 Speaker 4: Oh and we have Dan the one before, but not in a while. 00:36:42 Speaker 2: It's it's been a while recently. Yeah, how are you Caleb. 00:36:47 Speaker 5: Hey, we're doing We're doing really really well. Thank you. 00:36:50 Speaker 2: How are you guys. 00:36:52 Speaker 4: Oh, we're doing great, doing doing great. 00:36:54 Speaker 5: It's Friday, So so it is Friday. So a year ago, a year ago, we call and we talked to Charlie about his March Madness bracket and and we're watching the tournament right now. We're doing a Charlie thing. It's on over there. Well while we're on on the stream here and missing him more at this time because loved hearing him talk about how much he loved basketball. So anyway, the question is, who do you have winning in your tournament, and how are your brackets doing all right? 00:37:22 Speaker 4: I'm really glad we have Danny for this one. Refuse to join our office. Bra I am a huge scrooge on March madness. I am. This is an underrat effect about me. I'm kind of a basketball hater. I don't I like, don't like it as a sport, like you know, I have my little bit of a sort of autism stuff. I don't I don't like the design of the sport. I don't like watching basketball, and so I like revolt against march madness and refuse. I don't know who the number one seeds are. 00:37:47 Speaker 2: I don't know who's in the tournaments. 00:37:49 Speaker 4: No winner. I'm a big scrooge. 00:37:51 Speaker 11: But you guys doesn't like fun taking it all Arizona? 00:37:58 Speaker 4: You have to. There's like a guy in every pool, Andrew who has Duke taking it all every single. 00:38:03 Speaker 3: I've never ever, in any bracket I've ever built, had Duke taking it all. 00:38:08 Speaker 11: Lost yesterday, though they probably have lost yesterday. 00:38:12 Speaker 2: They should have. But Danny, who do you got? Big sports got? Yeah? 00:38:17 Speaker 11: I have Arizona winning it all. 00:38:18 Speaker 2: How far did you have that? 00:38:20 Speaker 3: You actually believe that or is it because you live in Arizona? 00:38:24 Speaker 11: No, there are one seat. Like, I actually believe that they're pretty good. I had Ohio State losing in the second round to Duke. I was pretty honest there. I didn't have him going too far. Big Ohio State fan. But yeah, they're They're not a basketball school right now. 00:38:37 Speaker 2: So at TCU they were. 00:38:40 Speaker 11: A powerhouse about ten to fifteen years ago. 00:38:43 Speaker 4: How many titles did they win? 00:38:45 Speaker 11: They went to a few final fours, titles not so much. 00:38:48 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's all right, Caleb, who do you got? 00:38:54 Speaker 2: Who you got taking it all? 00:38:58 Speaker 5: I I did pick a winner yet, I have like, I don't know, this is probably a long shot, but Gonzaga or Yukon. 00:39:06 Speaker 11: Wait, how do you not pick a winner after? 00:39:08 Speaker 2: That's not how the bracket works. Day. You're doing it wrong. 00:39:14 Speaker 5: I am doing it wrong. 00:39:16 Speaker 2: You're doing it wrong. 00:39:17 Speaker 4: This sounds like what do you think about Michigan secret bracket? And then I can reveal it after the tournament is over and thereby. 00:39:24 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like we totally trust that. 00:39:27 Speaker 4: Democrats about that sort of thing. 00:39:29 Speaker 5: Andrew, I don't know Michigan, Yeah, Michigan could do really well. 00:39:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting to see if Arizona wins, We're basically not going to have a studio when that day comes. Michael's already saying he's wilding out. He's going he's we're gonna lose him. We might not have a show if Arizona wins. Our team's gonna lose it. Uh, Caleb, thank you for calling in, my friend, and thank you for bringing in a little bit. 00:39:57 Speaker 2: Of Charlie spirit. Charlie. 00:40:00 Speaker 3: Charlie did not like the NBA, but he loved college basketball. He liked the Bulls nineties Bulls, and he liked college basketball the bracket. 00:40:07 Speaker 2: So I'm into it all right. Next up we have Anthony Anthony, what's going on? What's up? 00:40:15 Speaker 11: Guys? 00:40:16 Speaker 9: Blake, I can kind of agree with you. I don't watch basketball, but if I have to know, Danny hold On, I work in the industry. Working it is more fun than watching it. 00:40:27 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm saying, what does that mean, like like the players are interesting or like the shoot? 00:40:34 Speaker 9: Well, I work on the communications and marketing side, so you're always interacting with players media game notes. I've worked the Sweet sixteen and lead a regional back in twenty ten when it was at Syracuse, so I had Cornell, Kentucky, Washington, and West Virginia. So it working it as an as a person is a lot more fun than just sitting it on your couchure out with friends watching it, so you're you're more into it, Like I have guys mind right now are in different regionals working on staff. 00:41:01 Speaker 3: So so so Anthony, I totally agree with this. I went to my first NBA game, like close to the court. I went to a Sun's game. Somebody invited me and it was really cool in person. I hate watching basketball oll NBA. I like watching March Madness. I hate watching NBA at home. It just like you don't have any sense of the size and athleticism of the players, but up close you do, and you're it's it really is remarkable. 00:41:29 Speaker 2: They are tremendous athletes. Got to give you for give them their due. 00:41:34 Speaker 11: What makes march Mans great is the upsets, though like the NBA, there's no such thing really as an upset because they're all professionals, which again why college football is better than the NFL, because in college football you also have the upsets. College sports are better than professional. 00:41:47 Speaker 4: My problem with basketball is just I don't think the design of the game is good, like the incentives to just here we go foul endless at the end of a game, so it slows down to a hall and they're just shooting all the free throws, and I feel like there's not that much strategy. Like they it took them forty years to figure out a three point shot was worth more than a two point shot, so you should shoot a three point shot. And then once they did that, it just totally wrecked the strategy. Guys are just chucking threes or they're doing layups. Nobody's ever trying to, you know, set up an isolation mid range jumper anymore. I just I think it's off. 00:42:25 Speaker 11: Can you say his name again? 00:42:26 Speaker 4: What you what do you call him? 00:42:28 Speaker 9: What? 00:42:28 Speaker 2: Did I say it wrong? Curry? 00:42:30 Speaker 4: I thought you. 00:42:32 Speaker 2: Did. 00:42:33 Speaker 9: He did, stay to Fan Curry. 00:42:34 Speaker 2: It's Stephan, Stephan Stephen Curry. 00:42:36 Speaker 11: Yeah, there's not a lot of ball. 00:42:39 Speaker 4: Steph Curry. 00:42:42 Speaker 9: Got well hold up before I get to my question, Andrew, I can agree with you on one thing. I used to work in the NBA for two years, so I see I've seen the difference in pro and college and my picks to win it. If I had a pick right now, I didn't do a bracket Arizona, Michigan Duke or Florida in my top four. But I think Arizona's gonna take it. 00:43:00 Speaker 11: Yeah, anybody but Michigan. I'm a hater of Michigan at all. All Yeah, we're aware, Yeah. 00:43:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Ohio State. 00:43:09 Speaker 4: All right, Anthony, what's your what's your other question? 00:43:12 Speaker 9: And this is my real question. How can you tell who's a good influence on social media and politics? Because there's a lot of them that just create podcasts, create short memes, animations that kind of stuff, interviews where they just want clicks and we know what AI these days, you can create a lot of fake propaganda. We see it all over So like outside of you guys, Brandon Tatum and others, Like, how can you figure out who is a good one to follow? Because I think a lot of people don't. The average person doesn't know who to follow, and they'll just follow everybody and some of the information is not true. 00:43:50 Speaker 4: A lot of it's That is a complicated question. 00:43:52 Speaker 3: I will answer it succinctly like this, but we could build this idea out. One of the main things I look for, Anthony, is does that have skin in the game? Is there any cost for being wrong. That could mean they get involved in local elections. They're actually working the system to try and affect change from a grassroots level. That's the one thing that kept Charlie grounded more than anything else is that he had touch points with the students, he had touch points with the voters. 00:44:20 Speaker 2: We have that turning point action everything we do. 00:44:23 Speaker 3: We're trying to advance the football another sports analogy, to make sure that the country's a better place, that we're leaving it a better place. And I will tell you that grounds you. It focuses you like nothing else. Blake, I know you have many, many thoughts when it comes to which influencers you should follow and trust in which you should not. 00:44:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, so it's a first of all, it's just a great question. I think it's an important one, and a lot of people are becoming aware of that. I think, as you said, an important thing is skin in the game. Not just are they doing actual workout there, but sort of is there any accountability if they're wrong about things? And more to the point, you should just even if they don't, you should look for signs that like if they make predictions, do you have to look Sorry, I'm stumbling over my words. You want to look for a long term pattern here. You should see does this person offering like consistent takes on things. That doesn't mean they have to be right all of the time, but are they clearly coming from some sort of ideological foundation. Can you anticipate how this person will react to things in a way that isn't just chasing after clicks. Another thing I think that's worth looking towards is if a person is often alluding to having secret knowledge or for knowledge of things, does that actually pan out? Because a very common way to sort of grift or attention bait is to suggest you have secret sources about stuff and then that nothing ever comes of it, nothing ever emerges from this. A lot of people like to say, oh, you know, I have a lot of you know, I have secret info that something big is going to drop in next week, and if what ever happens, most people forget about it because the memory is like a goldfish. But you should watch those things and if they are doing that consistently. One of the great things on X you can actually make lists of different users and you can put someone on your list of this person actually BSEs me a lot or you could put someone on the list this person actually has been reliable. You can bookmark posts. Using those tools is a good way to keep track of who's reliable, who's honest, and who's less reliable. Another thing I like to look for is sort of emotional balance. I find that people who are less reliable, they tend to get insanely worked up about things. And it's always a new thing this week, because emotional overload is very it is clickbait, it's very satisfying to people. It's very people enjoy getting really worked up about things. And if a user is deliberately feeding that, if they're encouraging you to get really really angry all the time about every new thing, if they're encouraging really drastic action all of the time, I find that's a sign that they're often just chasing after the most clicks that they can get, rather than trying to lead you in a good direction. And I think Charlie was good about that. Charlie could be very strong in his views, but he wasn't endlessly having meltdowns about things. 00:47:16 Speaker 3: Well said Anthony, thank you for your question. I think it was a really really good one. Unless Danny, you want to add anything to it we got now. 00:47:24 Speaker 11: I just think staying consistent. If you continue to just keep going back and forth on different different issues and keep contradicting yourself, then you can't really be trustworthy. 00:47:32 Speaker 9: Appreciate it, guys, and I'm going to send something to you guys, so you can watch basketball a different way like. 00:47:38 Speaker 11: I watch it. 00:47:39 Speaker 4: All right. I don't think I'm gonna be sold. I have become an enemy of the b ball. 00:47:44 Speaker 2: Be open minded. 00:47:45 Speaker 4: I'm gonna i eight men show up at my house and. 00:47:50 Speaker 2: Beat me up now or something. 00:47:51 Speaker 3: But deciding with the Dodger fan, that's how you know I made a good point. 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But uh yeah, anyways, don't get me started on basketball. I'll talk for hours on that. But I really I've been working on gratitude this year. That's been a really big thing for me. And I just wanted to know, what, what are some things you guys are grateful for in your lives? And also, secondly, what's something that Charlie taught you about gratitude? Because I know he was big on that too. 00:49:58 Speaker 2: Yeah. I had a reminder of this last night. 00:50:01 Speaker 3: Actually, Ian, you know, without getting into the gory details, yesterday was an adventure personally for me for a very variety of reasons. 00:50:11 Speaker 2: Blake knows a little bit about it. 00:50:12 Speaker 3: Sorry to be vague, but anyways, the point is I was talking with my wife and she looked at me and she just kind of like threw up her hands and she goes, isn't it great that you and me are good and that our kids are healthy? 00:50:26 Speaker 2: Like, isn't it good? 00:50:27 Speaker 3: That doesn't matter like what's going on, what challenges that we have each other, and that our relationship is strong. 00:50:34 Speaker 2: And I just thought, you know what, that's exactly right. 00:50:37 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter all the noise, It doesn't matter everything that's swirling, all the tension, all the conflict. You know, I'm grateful for my wife and my family, and I'm grateful that I have a Christian faith that has, you know, guarded my heart and has guarded my life and helped me make better decisions. 00:50:55 Speaker 2: And you know, it was it was interesting. 00:50:57 Speaker 3: There's a pastor that I used to download his podcasts all the time and listen to him, and he would acknowledge the fact he's he was kind of a blunt guy, and he said, you know, if I didn't have you, if I wasn't saved by Jesus Christ, I'd be drunk, alone, divorced, and you know, alone in some basement somewhere. And you know, it was kind of it's a blunt way to put it, But I do think that there is an element of all of our lives that if we didn't if we weren't grounded in something eternal and something true and something that has tried and tested over the years and the millennia, that we would find ourselves in a really, really terrible spot. Sometimes you still find yourself in a really terrible spot. But I'm grateful for those those lasting things and those good things, and anyways, that's my answer, Blake, what about you. 00:51:45 Speaker 4: Danny Charlie was very good about gratitude, even in even interf he I remember he was going on about the importance of gratitude right after the twenty two midterms, which were very rough, and he did a great bit on Thanksgiving, Like, we have the most gratitude right now because we recognize the stuff that is truly central to us, which is faith, which is family, which is the immediacy around us, everything God's given us. I'm very grateful for those basic things. I am personally very grateful. I know there's a lot of dumerism about the US. I'm kind of grateful, Like I think about the very basic things that I can still as much as people complain, I can count on like a functional country, the rule of law. I can easily obtain food every time. I try to always take myself back to those like very root things, Like as much as we are worried about this country, we have a very nice one. And we see a lot of things breaking down all around the world. And as much as we're annoyed by things that unfold around the world. For example, there's this war in the Middle East, and I don't think any of us like that. It's happening. We do live in a country that is basically at peace. But I wanted to get more on that because I want to ask you, Danny, are you grateful? Do you have gratitude for Ohio State football? 00:52:56 Speaker 11: Well, first off, I'm grateful. I call it the four fs FAI, family, freedom, and friends, so not football. It's kind of just something fun on the side. It's not it's not the main thing. I'm grateful we beat Michigan this year. I am not grateful that there was a disaster game in Miami that I attended and uh, they lost pretty bad. 00:53:18 Speaker 4: But you're feeling a little fair weather fan here to me. They've won a title, They've won what three titles in the last we'll see. 00:53:25 Speaker 11: We demand excellence, Blake, so we're not satisfied with losing. So it's a different type of breed. 00:53:30 Speaker 4: I will say, I am grateful the Packers won a Super Bowl, and I'm like, I want them to win more, but I'm I'm glad we got one, which Minnesota Vikings fans will never get to experience. Sorry, guys, it's true. But yes, now we can move on to the next question. 00:53:44 Speaker 2: Can you hear me? 00:53:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, Michael, Michael, what's your question? 00:53:47 Speaker 2: Hey? 00:53:48 Speaker 12: First off, I want to say thank you for helping me to call attention to the issues we have in trucking. I called in and talked to Hurt. Last time I called in and talked to Charlie. He actually held me over the break to discuss it. And you know, unfortunately I've had some tragedies between here and there and trucking, but I'm thankful that we're doing stuff done. My question is that with all of the talk about an immigration freeze, I was curious if there was any hope of keeping fion Sav's is open. And as I said in the end, the question, you know, limiting it limited to one per one per citizen, a lifetime limit of one per citizen. 00:54:32 Speaker 4: Yes, all right, all right, lifetime limit of one per citizen sounds like a good idea. It seems like very straightforward. You should not They would be a good check on fraud at a minimum, exactly, That's what I'm thinking. 00:54:43 Speaker 12: I've been talking getting to it from South America for a while, looking to bring it up here and that whole immigration freeze thing would be a little bit of. 00:54:53 Speaker 4: A kink in that. Oh well, yes, so I don't know if there's a discussion of a freeze on all all spousal visas. I imagine even if we were to do a well, I go back and forth on this, because obviously we've talked about a moratorium. Would feel extreme to say, oh, you can't bring your spouse in from abroad, But I also have to we also have to be very aware if we were to crack down in all other forms, it would encourage a big increase in let's be frank, fraudulent marriage visas, because people will find any means they can to get into the US. If you want an example, yeah, I mean, if you want an example, we also have we have a visa for victims of crimes who can stain US so they can testify in a case or whatever. And just the other day we had yet another indictment. We've had many of these where they've caught rings of people faking crimes against their friends so that those friends can then get that visa and stay in the US. I think your idea of a you know, a one person limit is or a one lifetime limit is a good idea. Another one might be you maybe have to add some like threshold expense to it, which I know is a pain, but it would, you know, encourage you to be very serious about those things. Uh, there's ways we can go about. 00:56:04 Speaker 12: Truth is fifteen thousand dollars expense? 00:56:06 Speaker 4: Oh is there all right? 00:56:07 Speaker 11: Hard? 00:56:08 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a ten to fifteen thousand dollars expence once and that doesn't include travel or anything else, because I've already game planned all this stuff out and I'm looking at about ten to fifteen thousand dollars expence just to get her up here, which I'm fine with paying. My goal in life has always been to get married and have kids, and my generation has been absolutely horrible of that. So come Hecker high water. I'm pushing, I am, Me and her are focused on getting this done. It's just that, you know, the same as illegal image deep deepport, all means all. You know, when someone says we want to halt all immigration. Okay, all means all. There is a hard stop and no one passes go. 00:56:44 Speaker 2: And I would like to. 00:56:46 Speaker 12: I would like to, you know, I'll teach her the citizenship test myself. But it's not that hard. I'm sorry, it's just not I will teach her that stuff. I'm active in my community. I will take her through that stuff. I just need to be able to get. 00:56:57 Speaker 2: Her up here. All right, Well, what country is coming from? Venezuela. 00:57:01 Speaker 12: She's more base than I am, though. 00:57:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of partly patriotic Venezuelan's actually, And by the way, we're we're we've endorsed on this show a net zero more moratorium, which would essentially it does mean there will be some spots and maybe maybe we need to prioritize some of these marriage visas, uh, if they can be properly vetted for patriots like yourself. 00:57:24 Speaker 2: I'm I'm open to that. 00:57:25 Speaker 3: But a net zero would essentially be about two hundred, two hundred and fifty thousand people would still be admitted, because that's how many people are leaving the country every year. So as soon as the spot opens up, it opens up. Right to Blake's point, though, you know, the second the second that you start making exceptions or carve outs. 00:57:42 Speaker 2: People will exploit them. 00:57:44 Speaker 3: And so you've got to the starting point needs to be very firm, very rigid, and very exacting, and the point is is because we've just been so taken advantage of. We are the suckers, We are the marks for the entire world that wants to flood in here. 00:57:59 Speaker 2: And you know, it's basically arbitrage. Yeah, trust me, Mail. 00:58:03 Speaker 12: That's why I said one per native born citizen, lifetime limit of one per native born citizen. Not you came in here and you became a citizen. You had to be born here, natural born citizen. 00:58:13 Speaker 4: I think that's a good that might be a good start, but uh, it's a complicated topic and I think to kind of put a bow on it. A big thing to remember here is there's so many ways our system is just constantly exploited because we don't take the idea of having a good immigration policy seriously. And if we really did that, if we were serious about any immigrant who comes to the US should be improving the country. We should not be allowing criminals, We should not be allowing you know, dependence, We should not be allowing problems to come into America. We can instantly make a vastly smarter system, and we mostly refuse to do it. And I think mariage like marriage visas for clear cases where it makes sense to allow it is one of the less damaging things that we could have compared to the just endless importation of foreign bring their farm workers, tech workers, and so on. 00:59:05 Speaker 12: If one person, you're not bringing your family up here, you can go down there and visit. 00:59:08 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 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Just go to wyrefi dot com. That's the letter, why then refi dot com. And remember y Refi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to wyrefi dot com and tell them your friend Andrews sent you. 01:00:18 Speaker 4: And we want to make sure we have a few people still in the queue. Elizabeth, unmute yourself. What's your question? 01:00:24 Speaker 13: Yes, hi, So mine's also about immigration as well. I don't know if you were aware that Ali Largiani, who was a senior Iranian official in the Supreme leaders like National Guard, he was basically the guy who got the forty thousand protesters killed. He's like a truly evil person and he was recently wiped out by Israel. His daughter is a professor, well, was a professor at Emory University and had gotten her green card in twenty twenty one. I don't know if he guys, not twenty twenty. I think it was twenty twenty. No, yeah, twenty twenty one under Biden. And there was an article in the Post about all of these Iranian leaders and their kids getting visas in green cards educated here. There was that terrorist in Michigan who was here legally, whose brother was a leader in Hesba Lah. There was a terrorist attack over in Austin, Texas. And it's just astounding that the people aren't getting vetted. We have people filing for asylum claims and it's like four years later they say no, you're declined asylum. They get to appeal, they get to stay here. It's twenty years later before you can legally get them out, and everyone's yelling at you on they've been here for twenty years, how can you make them leave now? Meanwhile they don't even speak the language. Still, like, is there any possibility of one vetting these people better? And then two, if you are claiming asylum, that you have fourteen days for your trial and then there's a process where they can just sort of basically vet you out one way or the other and don't qualify. They have to leave the country within another two weeks and that's it. And if they want to appeal it, they can appeal it, but not on American soil. 01:02:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's just the whole story with this, Like Man's daughter yet you're correct she was She had a faculty position at Emory and I don't know exactly how that came to pass, but this is a guy who's senior in a regime that is an enemy of the United States, And it seems like something broke if she's able to just very easily come here unless we have hard proof that she's like basically a huge opponent of everything you know of the regime, Like if she was an actually if she had skin in the game as someone who'd like fought against the regime. Yeah, but I don't. Yeah, it seems like she's flying back over there, and frankly, just looking at her faculty portrait, I don't think that she's an enemy of the regime. 01:02:46 Speaker 2: Uh. 01:02:47 Speaker 4: It just it gets back to what we said with the last segment. We have such an unseious immigration policy. We just casually bring in people who are hostile to America, who are scamming America, who are plundering America. And as soon as we make it a priority to not let that happen, there's so many benefits we can build up for the United States. 01:03:07 Speaker 3: By the way, the White House announced a review of all immigration benefits granted to Iranians, that which has been labeled a country of concerns Sowy movement. Yeah, has been movement on that. We'll see what happens there. Blake, you got an interesting email question. I think I think it deserves answering. 01:03:23 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:03:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, we got one from Kelsey and she asked a few weeks ago, Mikey posted some great pictures and videos of Charlie, and in one video, Charlie was eating in and Out, which made me wonder what was his go to order at in and Out? Thank you, Kelsey. That's a fun one, and we actually had to do some research because the truth is Charlie didn't eat in and Out a lot. He loved in and Out the company, He loved their Christian foundation. I think he even interviewed the founder at one point, Lindsay, and so he really loved it. That was kind of our go to if we were ordering, you know, food for the office, it would be in and Out. 01:03:57 Speaker 8: Uh. 01:03:58 Speaker 4: But obviously not a big fast food guy. So we asked and Erica tells us his default order was a protein style double double. So I think that's two patties, two pieces of cheese, the two by two. And that didn't surprise me because Charlie only ate about four foods and bread wasn't one of them, so you never really see him eating a burger patty and cheese. I think cheese would be a luxury. You very rarely saw him eating cheese. The go to was beef, chicken, avocado, olive oil, and sort of green vegetable. Once we'd say, like lettuce or cabbage, green vegetable you could kind of do. And it was basically the only things he ate And so that cheese on the in and out burger was a very special luxury for him. 01:04:38 Speaker 2: Okay, Mick, you're up next. 01:04:40 Speaker 4: Oh, Mick also wanted us to read it. 01:04:42 Speaker 2: Yes, so, and hey guys, I'm feeling great, please read for me. 01:04:46 Speaker 3: There was a clip played during one of the breaks where Charlie was talking with a gentleman from Oregon, where I'm from, who wasn't sure if he should get involved in his local election. I myself am looking to move to South Carolina. What did Charlie and what do you guys think about conservatives moving from blue states to deep red states? 01:05:04 Speaker 2: I think he was. 01:05:05 Speaker 3: Basically pro he you know, oftentimes he would tell Californians like, your vote will go further in Arizona if you want to move here. But he was also pro you staying. You know, if you made the decision to stay and fight in Oregon or California, he was pro that. And he said, you know, but fight to win, and you don't fight because you know you're gonna win. You fight because it's the right thing to do. So wherever you are at, you need to find wins and ways to get involved that will move the needle. That's the main point. But if you're gonna move and you get your votes now going to count for more, by all means, don't vote for Lindsey Graham. 01:05:39 Speaker 2: That's all I can tell you. Yeah, South Carolina. 01:05:41 Speaker 4: I mean I'd add Charlie. For example. At the memorial, Stacy spoke. She was a member of our team who was in California, and Charlie was always pushing her to move to Arizona, and thankfully she finally did. Of course, Andrew, you've also come out to Arizona. I think in general, another reason, besides just political calculations, Charlie would want people to move to red states because you can live a better life in a red state. It's more affordable, You're more likely to be able to have a home, better space, you're less likely to be taxed to death. You're more likely to be able to practice your faith as you wish to go to the school that where your children can learn the way you want. You don't have to worry that insane people might abduct your children for the transgender cult. There's a million reasons to live in a red state that are not just who I'm going to vote for who can help elect but that does matter as well. The movement of people to red states has been hugely helpful for us. We're better able to win elections because red states are growing, Blue states are shrinking, and as long as we keep our states on side, that's going to produce a lot of benefits for us. 01:06:46 Speaker 3: So big if in places like North Carolina and Georgia, that's why I'm most worried about So yeah, I. 01:06:52 Speaker 4: Mean, they love to blueify our red states. It's a huge hazard. But our states are well run, they are better, and that's something we can brag about. The the vidication of red state government has been a big story of the past decade. 01:07:05 Speaker 2: It really has. 01:07:06 Speaker 3: Actually, I'm glad you said that because it kind of flows into our next our next question mark I mute yourself. Welcome to the Charlie Kirkshow. 01:07:15 Speaker 10: Okay, thanks for taking my call, guys. One of the main reasons, yeah, one of the main reasons why I started listening to Charlie Kirk and I loved this about Charlie was his obsession with winning elections. One of the main reasons why I donate to you, guys is because turning point action. And I don't want to say I'm a what do you guys call him? The black pillars, the doomers, right, I don't know what you guys call it, but basically, I'm extremely worried about the midterms. But what I would like to see is, and I'm gonna use I think Blake's term because he's a Catholic guy, the Conservative Conclave. I'm gonna call it the I'm kind of calling it the Conservative Conclave where we focus energy comparing policy from Dems to Republicans. There's a book called Questioning to the Clothes. If you look at the response from Amagill Spamberger after the State of the Union, she just kept asking three questions, what has the what has Trump done? 01:08:22 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah? 01:08:23 Speaker 10: What has Trump done? 01:08:23 Speaker 2: Well? 01:08:24 Speaker 10: She didn't, I mean, basically she was lying, But the concept is the same. We need the independent voters. And what I don't see Harley anywhere in conservative media is what is there's no comparison between policy, like the Republican policy is superior to the Democrats have. 01:08:46 Speaker 2: Well, I agree, Mark, this is interesting. 01:08:48 Speaker 3: It ties into two of the other questions and some of the podcasters you can trust, Yeah, you trust the ones that have skin in the game and that are actually working elections and trying to. 01:08:56 Speaker 4: Get the right. It got me thinking about this because a reason they wouldn't become pairing Republican policies to Democrat ones is if they're just promoting conflict within the movement. And that's something we should have said about who you can trust? Look at yes, picking fights with you want. I love to talk about the words that are on a Claymore. Mind, if for military lingo front towards enemy, they should be facing the enemy, which is the left, and if instead they're facing your own guys and finding reasons to stoke conflict with other Republicans without really good reason, like Okay, we attack Lindsey Graham for reasons that we hope we're very clear on. But if they're constantly finding new Republicans to beef with. That's not a good thing. And so you're very right. We need our communicators talking about elections and talking about what Democrat rule means. And what Democrat rule means is training in your kids, crime, filth, disorder in the streets, higher taxes like unlivability, it's califying. Is spending forty billion dollars on a train that will never carry anyone anywhere. 01:09:56 Speaker 10: I agree one hundred percent. And this is why I was so adamant about getting through right. It's like, I get so angry when this infighting is not helping anybody. But this is kind of why I'm calling it the Conservative Conclave, because it's like we're grabbing people from this space and saying, look, guys, if we lose the midterm in the Senate and the House, Trump is done. If we lose the House, he's not out of office. But if he loses both, he's done. And so and if we lose the House, yes, and if he loses the House Senate and we lose in twenty eight, if JD doesn't win, they're coming after you, guys. I mean, I hate to say it, right, because I mean this is I mean This is why I loved about Charlie, who was so fearless, and the thing that I love, he went out. He did his own RNC convention right next to the RNC convention. I was like stoked when he did that. And this is why when I see conservative talk shows, I get angry. 01:10:59 Speaker 3: So I'm just Mark, we got to wrap the show. We got to wrap the show. I hate to cut you off, but you're absolutely right. 01:11:07 Speaker 13: Uh. 01:11:07 Speaker 2: The Claymore Mind is a great analogy, Blake. I think that was a great way to end it. 01:11:15 Speaker 4: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com