Real Immigration Reform + Markwayne Mullin vs. Rand Paul

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It was very very tense, very very early. 00:01:52 Speaker 6: It's not to you told the media that I was a freaking snake and that you completely understood why I'd been assaulted, and went on to brag that you'd already told me to my face that you completely understood and approved of the assault. 00:02:06 Speaker 7: Well that's a lie. You got a chance today. 00:02:09 Speaker 6: You can either continue to lie or you can correct the record. You have never had the courage to look me in the eye and tell me that the assault was justified. So today you'll have your chance. Today, I'll give you that chance to clear the record. Tell it to my face, if that's what you believe, tell it to me today. Tell the world why you believe I deserve to be assaulted from behind, have six ribs broken and a damage lung. 00:02:32 Speaker 7: Tell me to my face, why you think I deserved it? 00:02:36 Speaker 5: That was too Republicans. 00:02:38 Speaker 3: That's two Republicans. There's some honor culture stuff going on here. You know, you got the Kentucky honor culture and the Oklahoma honor culture. So there's these are two I would say, spirited men, right. They both have been through a few fights before. In ram Pal's case, actually very very clearly he was assaulted and that's terrible by a neighbor, and that tends that seems to be what the backstory is here. And then of course Senator Mark Wayne Mullen is a former MMA fighter. He's a tough guy, he's a he's a man's man, and he you know, he got into it with Sean O'Brien, who's union boss, and that was a very famous clip of him and Sean O'Brien getting into it and kind of threatening, hey, let's do it right now, let's go outside kind of moment. What's interesting is that Sean O'Brien is sitting now behind Mark Wayne mullin as a character witness for his confirmation hearing, which I think is very telling about Mark Wayne Mullen as a man. He is somebody that's willing to bury the hatchet. What's a little fight tomorrow will be brought boys again kind of thing. So I tend to think that ram Paul needs to kind of bury the hatchet here. He's obviously upset about some words that were exchanged in the past, but that's kind of Mark Wayne Mullen's deal. He's able to he's able to fight, he's able to have heated exchanges, and I kind of bury it for the good of the country, for the good of policy, advancing policy. So there's more of this. We can keep playing it. Stop fifteen. 00:04:10 Speaker 6: You offer no apology, sir, and you offer no apology today and no regrets. 00:04:15 Speaker 8: And I'm not apologizing for point not your coodntor goodn't. 00:04:18 Speaker 7: So you're you're jolly well fine. 00:04:20 Speaker 6: And you want the American public and the people up here to vote that may or may not vote for you, to know that you supported the felonious, violent attack on me from behind. 00:04:29 Speaker 8: I did not say I supported it. I said, I understood it. 00:04:33 Speaker 7: There's a difference. 00:04:34 Speaker 8: It's calling you that means you. 00:04:36 Speaker 6: Really didn't approve of it, just completely understand it. What do you think most people would interpret completely understand to be support for or a condemnation of the violence. 00:04:47 Speaker 8: Sir as I said, we can. We can have our differences. It's not going to keep me from doing my job as Secretary of Homeland Security. I'm going to secure Kentucky and take care of Kentucky as if as much as I am. 00:04:57 Speaker 4: This Holy cow, I'm not apologizing for pointing out your character. He's definitely he's definitely not apologizing there. You don't you don't usually see that in confirmation here in s you usually they're all eager to paper over. 00:05:11 Speaker 5: Things in the past. 00:05:12 Speaker 4: But uh, Mark Wayne clearly is not taking that approach. 00:05:15 Speaker 3: I you know, I have to say, I'm not I'm not justifying what Mark Wayne said. I would say that, you know, Ram Paul getting assaulted was terrible. I just can't help but find it a bit endearing that Senator Mark Wayne Ullan won't back down. I you know, he's probably sitting there thinking that that was a bit of a cheap shot. Listen, we've got a job to do it, DHS. You need to get me confirmed so we can defend the country in the interior and so many other things. And Ram Paul's making it about you know, a a you know, a squabble that he had with Mark Waynemullan at a previous juncture. I get it. You know, he's upset about it, but there are businesses of state to attend to, and you hope that your political leaders are able to put it behind you. So I don't know. I look at this exchange, and you know Mark winn molds not one to pull punches either. So but it's it's firery, you know. And there's you know, you you saw the division of the caucus here where you had Bernie Moreno steps in and basically says, listen, you're you're gonna get confirmed here, and it looks like here, I'm looking for the clip here. I did see it just a second ago. 00:06:28 Speaker 5: Oh it's it's clip five. 00:06:29 Speaker 9: You are who you are, you don't you don't, And I think that's what you don't apologize for as just being yourself. 00:06:34 Speaker 7: And sometimes we're imperfect. 00:06:36 Speaker 9: We don't do the twenty focus twenty person focus group every time you say a word, and I think that's what people like about you, Mark Wayne, So I appreciate you being here. I honestly just have one question for you. Do you pledge to support and defend the United States of America nearly as much as you would protect and defend your family, without doubt, sir. Yes, So I'm gonna everything for the audience. You will be confirmed, you will have the job, and you're gonna make this country safer and better. 00:07:09 Speaker 7: And for that, I thank you and thank your family for supporting you. 00:07:12 Speaker 5: Yeah, So for those wonderings, it is. 00:07:14 Speaker 4: It is close enough in the Senate if rand opposes him and no Democrats switch sides, which I think Fetterman is on this committee, so that might happen. But if he gets rejected, that would hold up the nomination. But the full Senate can do anything, and so obviously the President's going to insist upon this, and so you know Thun can force it through. But yeah, presuming assuming he hasn't defended any other too many other Republicans with with with remarks. 00:07:43 Speaker 3: But you know, I think I'm like, I'm reminded, and you'll remember this when we had Senator Mark Wayne moullan on the show, and he was very honest about his feelings about a certain Supreme Court justice. So this is something that we've seen Mark Wayne Moullin do. He is very honest about folks that he thinks, I guess you would say have character issues and you know, right, right or wrong? I don't know. I just maybe I'm biased because he's come on the show so many times, But you know, I find it endearing. And that's only one of the hearings this morning. Folks. You know, we spend a lot of time on this show talking about culture, about why strong families matter, why values matter, why faith matters. But here's something practical. 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On the show Top. 00:09:58 Speaker 10: Nine, the Nited States continues to face a complex and evolving threat landscape with a geo geographically diverse set of Islamist terrorist actors seeking to propagate their ideology globally and harm Americans, even as al Qaida and Isis remain weaker today than they were at their respective peaks, The spread of Islamist ideology, in some cases led by individuals and organizations associated with the Muslim Brotherhood, poses a fundamental threat to freedom and the foundational principles that underpin Western civilization. Isamus groups and individuals use this ideology for recruiting and financial support for terrorist groups and individuals around the world, and to advance their political objectives of establishing an Islamist caliphate which governs based on Sharia. 00:10:46 Speaker 3: All right, so she's knocking out of the pot. I mean, we have multiple clips here, Blake of Tulsi being one spot on when it comes to the threat of Islam. You love to hear it, right, because there's a certain, i would say emergent set of voices that are I think downplaying the threat of Islam in the West. We don't subscribe to that notion. We think that it is a clear and present danger to the future of Western civilization, but specifically to the United States. So I'm very heartened to see. 00:11:16 Speaker 5: I wish it was specific to the United States. 00:11:18 Speaker 4: Unfortunately it is generalized to all of Western civilization. And yeah, as you say, some people have made I think some people they're just the old fashioned open borders diversity is our strength sort but a part. Another version that's emerged in the last in the last few years is they just straight up they take the bargain of I would rather side with radical Islamists than with Israel or with Jewish people. Some of them are saying, oh, you know, Christian Christianity is two cocked. Christianity is too weak. We need muscular Islam to revive the West. There's a lot of these very deranged, very delusional takes that have risen in popularity. You're seeing it with young people, and you know, I think Charlie was depressient, and I think others are very correct to identify this threat now and start really pushing back against it. Before we're like the UK, before we're like France, and this is ten fifteen percent of the population, and we're having schools forcing all their kids to observe Ramadan, forcing their kids not to eat because it would offend them, you know, having these gigantic mass Islamic prayers out in front of your biggest churches, which is what we're seeing in Europe right now. 00:12:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, And like I said, that's why I'm so glad Toulci's being honest about it. She's not pulling any punches. She's going straight and direct, which is a good sign, by the way, if we're going to actually make progress on this issue. However, here's the room for improvement, and I know of it, of the backstory here, so it's harder for me to watch it with dispassionate eyes. Okay, So here's SOT twenty three. This is Senator Warner demanding to know why Toulci Gabbard was at the Fulton County, Georgia election rate not twenty three. 00:13:01 Speaker 10: For election security responsibilities to ensure the integrity of our elections. I want to correct one of your statements that you've made multiple times, which is false. I did not participate in a law enforcement activity, nor would I because that does not exist within my authorities. 00:13:20 Speaker 2: The photos are the photos of you. 00:13:22 Speaker 10: I was at Fulton County, Sir, at the request of the President and to work with the FBI to observe this action that had long been awaited. I was not aware of what was in the warrant or was not? 00:13:36 Speaker 2: And what was the president's specific question? 00:13:38 Speaker 11: What was the specific request by the president for you to show up in Fulton County. 00:13:42 Speaker 10: To go and observe the FBI's activities on this issue. 00:13:46 Speaker 3: All right, So she's saying that she was not involved in a d and I the top intel official in the country. Right, So they gather intel from all the other agencies, about seventeen intelligence agencies. A lot of times there's a lot of infighting because it's kind of like having a parent looking over your work, your homework. They don't like that. They want to be more independent Toelcy's got a heck of a job on her. But check this out. Two to one. This is from Just the News. John Solomon come on the show talking about some of this. Says US Intel hid Chinese twenty twenty election meddling from Trump because they opposed his policies. According to a memo obtained by Just the News. Great reporting there from John Solomon. We have ample evidence to understand that foreign actors were meddling in our elections. Now I'm not saying that they meddled in Fulton. They very well could have meddled in Fulton, but the President has had this intel. Tulcy Gabbert has had this intel. It's important that somebody articulate the foreign threat to our elections with strength and conviction in their voice. And I thought this was a missed opportunity. I'd love to see it somebody continue and following up, and maybe she's not ready to do it. I get to Toulsi's wisdom and the timing that she chooses. But somebody needs to articulate folly and forcefully the foreign threat to our elections and our election integrity, and I thought this was an opportunity to do that. CIA Director John Radcliffe is continues to prosecute the case against Iran. There's some great back and forth there. We can go ahead and place twenty two. 00:15:25 Speaker 12: If left unimpeded, yes a Senator, they would have the ability to range missiles to the continental US. It's one of the reasons why degrading Iran's missile production capabilities that is taking place right now in Operation Epic Fury is so important to our national security. 00:15:46 Speaker 3: So lots going on here. To your point, Blake, I thought this is going to be Joe Kent hour, and it seems as though it's kind of all over the place. 00:15:55 Speaker 10: Now. 00:15:56 Speaker 3: It's ongoing, so we're going to keep monitoring the situation. But so far it has not evolved into that just yet. 00:16:03 Speaker 5: Yeah, so far we shall see. 00:16:07 Speaker 3: Radcliffe Saucer reporting on a twenty five percent increase in assets and human resources at the CIA. It's interesting, seventy percent increase in counter terrorism operations. It's good to see them focused. 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We are joined by the great Mark Halprin, who is one of the keenest political observers in the country. All right, Mark, we were talking in the break about your your read on the hearings so far, so let's start there. You you watch the back and forth with Rand Paul and Mark Waynemullen. You are you have a relationship with Ram Paul. I think that's fair to say. What was your what was your reaction to that back and forth? 00:17:47 Speaker 13: Well, my only relationship with Senator Paul is I've interviewed him and I respect the fact that he's going to speak his mind even when he's in the minority. I think we could use more senators like that. Look, there's a personal issue here that I can em thies with, and then there's a substantive one. The personal one is he's a member of a club of one hundred and a member of his sub club of the Republican Party seemed to cheer when he was beat up seriously by his neighbor and never apologize for it and continue to kind of make light of it. And I think Senator Paul was right to, even though it's personal and might seem paintied to something, to use that as a prism to edge into the bigger issue, which I think, also based on the available record, is legitimate, which is, does this guy have the temperament to have this complicated job. The fact that he had a congressional hearing he tried to fight a guy, you know, even though they've made up since then. Like I just look at I look at those two data points and say, that's a legit area of inquiry for the chairman to take on. And I thought the Senator Mullen's responses weren't great. I didn't think they were great. So if you're someone who has doubts about his temperament to do this job, I don't think. I don't think he helped himself with the way he handled it. 00:18:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I hear you. I think that's a legitimate line of inquiry. I think that's a line I would agree with. But there's obviously you know, a longer backstory here between the two gentlemen. I think the fact that he's got Sean O'Brien sitting behind him, who he that was the guy they almost fought in the in the hearing, as he has Sean O'Brien there as a character witness, I think that's the mark winn mullen that people know and appreciate why he's so well liked. But yeah, he does, he does. He doesn't pull any punches. You know. We had him on this show and he said some things about a Supreme Court justice that kind of our jaws dropped, you know. So I I understand the temperament issue, but I tend to think that he's very relatable in that. 00:19:39 Speaker 13: Yeah, people like him up. But let me let me ask Blake a question. Can I ask Blake a question? Let's say, uh, let's say Blake got beat up and by his neighbor, and and and then you went on in public and laughing that I can kind of understand why Blake's neighbor would beat him up. 00:19:56 Speaker 2: A lot of people are saying in the hospital, I mean this is this is like a hypothetical, but it's so close to the. 00:20:02 Speaker 4: I kind of get it, Mark, And what I what I think is funny is I think, well, it's not funny, But I think what may genuinely be a problem here is I remember when that happened, and I think a lot of people did find it kind of funny, like, Oh, your neighbor came over and beat you up. And I think what a lot of people don't genuinely appreciate is I think Rand Paul was quite seriously maimed in that he was in the hospital for a long time. And I think a lot of people just kind of don't they don't internalize that fact that that's going to be really personal for Senator Paul because this wasn't something that lasted. You know, this wasn't oh I got in a fight one day. It was I was in the hospital for weeks, I believe, yep. 00:20:40 Speaker 13: And and the psychology oft I totally you're right. Let me just build on that he was beat up by his neighbor. That's like a really disquieting thing. It's really unsettling. You're in your you're in your neighbor, you're in your home, you're on your property, and your neighbor beats you up so badly. 00:20:55 Speaker 2: You're in the hospital. 00:20:57 Speaker 13: I could I could see why it would bother him that his colleague made repeated fun of it, and then today when he asked his colleague if he would apologize for it. 00:21:06 Speaker 2: He declined. 00:21:08 Speaker 13: So again, I'm not telling senators how to vote. I'm not saying this is his qualifying or should be. I'm saying, is I think this legitimate issue because that mindset of making fun of someone your colleague being sent to the hospital by his neighbor, and then declining in retrospect to apologize. How hard is it to apologize for that. 00:21:28 Speaker 3: Seems pretty after I mean, and yet he declined, Mark, I would agree with you. Maybe he should have. Maybe he should have. I will just say the backstory here, and again, I have great respect for ram Paul. I just happened to know, and I'm sure you know this as well, that he's one of those senators that tends to get under a lot of other senator's skin and there's a lot of scar tissue. There's a lot of backstory there. He can be very frustrated to deal with in the budget process, he holds out his vote. I mean, there's a lot of scar tissue there. Yeah, Well, we can leave it is that you did some reporting at Daily Mail last night. The sinister truth. I now I know, Mark, you don't write the headlines. This is for people who don't know Daily Mail. They throw a bunch of stuff at the board and they see what gets the most clicks. All right, So but the article, we'll get into that with you. Sinister truth about explosive resignation of Trump's top counterterror chief Joe Kent and his shot claim Israel is manipulating the president by Mark Alprin. What is the backstory here? What have you uncovered in your reporting, Mark? 00:22:28 Speaker 13: Well, as Daily Mail headlines go, that's that's like, that's like USA Today. 00:22:32 Speaker 2: That's that's a perfectly good one. 00:22:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was That's pretty tame for them, exactly. 00:22:38 Speaker 13: I you know, it's interesting that Joe Kent had this job because no one who's followed his career dealt with him is the least bit surprised that he would quit, and that he would quit over this. You know, I think all the time I had Ralph Read on my show on Next Up yesterday, we talked about this thing I'm so focused on as a reporter, which is what if Charlie were still here. And I have to say I think Charlie would have been proud yesterday of Team MAGA for mobilizing so quickly with very few fingerprints, to make it clear to not just to Kent, who's going on with Talker and maybe with Candace and Mark Levin, but to other people who are thinking of quitting over the war. Your public vociferous opposition will not be unchallenged, and it will not be cost free to make very effective maybe not stopping Kent from doing stuff, but now anybody else who wants to do what Kent did is going to have to think twice. And that was the goal of yesterday, and I think they were pretty effective. 00:23:43 Speaker 3: In doing it. Yeah. Well, let's play some of the clips. I think SOT one this Dan Bongino criticizing the move. 00:23:50 Speaker 14: I've read probably a lot more intelligence than he did. I had access to just about everything, and how you could come to the conclusion that the Israelis did it and there was no imminent threat here? 00:24:02 Speaker 3: Really? 00:24:03 Speaker 7: What about the. 00:24:04 Speaker 14: Anti ship ballistic missiles, the drone program, four hundred and forty kilograms of sixty percent and rich nuclear material. They're constant death to America chance, I mean you know, that's called evidence. In some limited circles, we call that, you know, a clue. I mean, I don't know what point you thought this wasn't an iminent threat after you've read a lot of the stuff I read. And by the way, that's just the open stores stuff we can talk about on the air. I promise you, the president, I promise you, has a bevy of material that if he could do the men in Black thing and erase your mind tomorrow, if he told you right now, you would come to the imminent threat conclusion in a snap mark. 00:24:41 Speaker 3: What was your reporting on the intel that Joe Kent had access to? 00:24:46 Speaker 2: It's murky, it's murky. 00:24:49 Speaker 13: I think there's no doubt that the administration and maybe Dan there is overstating echoes of the Bush weapons of mass destruction claims. They're overstating it. Almost every expert would say they are. I think it's a bit of a distraction, though, because for decades presidents of both parties have said Iran must be dealt with. So whether they were a week away or ten weeks away or two years away, I don't know that it matters. And I think it's kind of unfortunate for the focus of the public and the righteousness of the cause that there's all this attention being paid to. 00:25:28 Speaker 2: Is Kent telling the truth? Is the President telling the truth? You know? Is Rubio telling the truth? I don't think it matters. 00:25:34 Speaker 13: Iran is an existential threat and has been, and presidents of both parties have struggled to find a way to deal with it. And this president has tried something. It may go down in history as a calamity, but he did it because he was trying to achieve an objective shared by his colleagues, and it's an objective he's talked about also for decades, even well before he became a politician. 00:25:54 Speaker 3: Well, and Mark, there's a clip here, and I'm going to be watching closely. When Joe can't go on with Tucker, maybe with Mark Levin. I'm sure Mark Levin's going to bring up this clip because it does seem to strike against his letter TOT eight. 00:26:08 Speaker 15: I've already heard rumors that Fifth Group is going to be sending guys to Iraq because of the escalated oh yeah, situation with Iran. 00:26:18 Speaker 11: Now, yeah, I mean most Americans aren't aren't aware of it. We've our troops in Iraq and Syria have been attacked one hundred and fifty plus times by Iranian proxies. And when we say Iranian proxy, we've got to be clear on what that is. That's the Iraqi government that we pay. Because after the Iraqi military we spent two trillion on surrendered to ISIS, we had to go back in there in very short order and stand a military back up again. And guess who filled the breach. The shea malicious controlled by Iran did, and the Iraqi government's controlled by Iran. 00:26:45 Speaker 3: There's other clips of Joe Kent talking about the ballistic missile threat and so much more. So I'm I'm going to be watching those interviews very very closely to see if there is if he does have intel, or if he does have a perspective that could persuade me that that Trump wasn't acting on his own agency, that he was dog dog dog walked into this war by Israel. I think that's the main, the main claim here, and I want to see what he's going to present as evidence of that. 00:27:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, like there's two claims. 00:27:13 Speaker 13: One is that there wasn't sufficient evidence of a threat, and the other is it was done on behest you know, exclusively or primarily at the behest of Israel in the American Jewish lobby. He'll he'll have trouble proving the second one. The first one I think is more ambiguous. But as the clips suggests, there's plenty of things he said in the town's national town Square that suggests that he did see a threat from Iran. So whether he thought the threat was sufficient or not to warrant the president's actions, if he wants to make that judgment, he should run for president. That's not his call. That's the president's call. 00:27:48 Speaker 3: Well, that's a that's a very good point you just made. It is the commander in chiefs call. All right, Mark, you you seem like you're in high spirits today. You're making jokes about Blake getting beat up and me laughing about it. I didn't appear you know what, I think Blake would if I got arrogant here. 00:28:04 Speaker 4: He's assuming I would lose the fight, and I don't know. I feel like I worked pretty hard in this. 00:28:08 Speaker 13: Hypothetically, your neighbor's massive, Your neighbors bigger than Mark Wayne. 00:28:12 Speaker 3: Okay, this is true, true story. Blake is freakishly strong. I don't know what I don't know why he is, but I think it's because he used to be used to have a little bit more weight on you, Blake, which you've slimmed down. He's a and so I don't know if it's like remnant strength, but Blake is weirdly strong. What could you could you think best? My best? 00:28:34 Speaker 5: I've done like two sixty. 00:28:35 Speaker 3: That's that's not best. 00:28:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, with the spotter, No spotter. 00:28:39 Speaker 5: No spotter. 00:28:40 Speaker 4: So I could probably go harder if if I had you helping me out. 00:28:42 Speaker 13: Could could you rip the Phoenix white pages in half with your bare hands? 00:28:45 Speaker 3: Okay? 00:28:47 Speaker 5: Do they still publish the white page? 00:28:48 Speaker 4: Wait? 00:28:49 Speaker 3: What is that? Mark? I'm not familiar with. I know that was Robin. You're about to send me a text message saying get get back on track here. 00:28:57 Speaker 2: So you're gonna say, what are the white pages? 00:29:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, Blake? 00:29:01 Speaker 2: Is that some racial thing? 00:29:04 Speaker 3: Mark? Let's go to Let's turn our attention to the other big hearing that's happening right now in Capitol Hill, and that's with the Intel agencies. I mentioned that I love Tolci's focus on Islam. I'm very heartened to see that. However, there is I think justification for d and I to be involved in things like the Fulton County raid. I thought there was an opportunity for her to articulate that point. We know that foreign actors are trying to meddle in our elections. This is intel the president has had for a long time. To what extent, to what effect, we don't know, but that's exactly why it needs to be investigated. What are you seeing from this hearing so far? What are the big takeaways? 00:29:40 Speaker 13: Well, I'm not I'm not crazy on Intel and and CIA and others being involved in anything domestic. I think the FBI should deal with all of that. I think history shows it. It leads to potential abuse when you let intelligence agencies play on domestic front. You know, I've not seen all the hearing. I've been watching it on and off and switching back and forth to the Mark. 00:30:01 Speaker 2: Wayne Mullen hearing. 00:30:03 Speaker 13: You know, I find hearing format congrtual hearing format, with the limited time and a lot of the partisanship, to not be that useful. And I think obviously a lot of this stuff is classified. So in all honesty, I didn't hear anything that furthered my understanding of the threats for American faces around the world, and again, I just don't think the format's particularly conducive to that. 00:30:23 Speaker 3: Fair enough, I tend to agree with you. Actually, I'd much rather see you know, Tulci Gabbard or Ratcliffe in a long form interview on the show or or on Sean Ryan or whatever. So final point here, and Blake, I think you're gonna have some input here as the We've had you on to talk about this repeatedly. The strikes in Iran we want to call an excursion of war, whatever your word is for it. There is a political reality. I think everybody will acknowledge that. Militarily, we've seen some of the advanced excellence of our military. Nobody's conte that. But the political cost is certainly a contributing factor of how long this is going to drag on. What's your read on it right now? How's magaz staying together? How's the base staying together? Are we shrinking the coalition by doing this? Your reads are. 00:31:14 Speaker 13: Every bit of polling data suggests MAGGA is staying together. And Chris las Avita just tweeted about this. Magan is very solid for this, and not just because they're blindly little to the president. There are no boots on the ground. We're not building schools or firehouses. We're not saying we're going to march to Tehran and displace the government. Donald Trump is not against using force. He's for fast. You know, when maggis against and what a lot of people on the left are against are losing slowly. What the Presidence for is winning quickly. Now how quickly will quickly be? All the political fallout, the mid terms, presidents legacy, all these things, They'll all be answered by how this goes. If it ends in the next six weeks or less, if it ends with the objectives or most of the oj actives being achieved, I think it'll be in that political plus for the president. 00:32:04 Speaker 2: And if it doesn't, if. 00:32:05 Speaker 13: It goes on longer, if it costs multiple billions, if it does have mission creep, or if the objectives aren't achieved, I think the Republican Party, when the President, will pay a price, and they should because the President made this decision on behalf of the party. So all this I said before, I don't like the conversation about was there sufficient intelligence to go in, because I think there was. I also don't like this discussion about whether the president's breaking his promise. 00:32:32 Speaker 2: I just don't think he is. 00:32:34 Speaker 13: Could I respect those who think he is, but the president is for using decisive force to achieve important and essential objectives, and so far that's what he appears to be doing well. 00:32:44 Speaker 3: Mark. 00:32:44 Speaker 4: What occurs to me is, do you think this is I think we've had repeated cases of this now, where there's sort of Trump himself and then also there's the aura that's built around Trump, where they'll emphasize things that aren't necessarily big Trump talking points. The other one that comes to mind, and of course, is the Epstein stuff, where people are saying, oh, Trump betrayed us on Epstein. He was promising to really go hard at this, and then when you look at the evidence, it's Trump's supporters talk about that a lot, and then Trump gets asked about an interview and he's like, ah, yeah, yeah, we'll look at the Epstein stuff, and he's never bringing it up of his own volition. And I feel like Iran is similar, where Trump's supporters and certainly we among them, have emphasized, oh, he avoided these wars. 00:33:24 Speaker 5: He was the peace president. 00:33:25 Speaker 4: He had no new wars in his first term, while Trump himself is going around saying Iran will never get a nuclear weapon. I'm super tough, I'm ready to use force. Do you think this is kind of a recurring pattern and is that particular? 00:33:37 Speaker 13: I would use the metaphor, No, not necessarily, but I would say the metaphor is a Trump's a wizard of Oz and all these other people are the flying monkeys, and the flying monkeys get a lot of attention, and they say I speak for the wizard, but Trump, I just don't. Trump is the king of inconsistency. There are lots of things he's not consistent on. And again I have great respect for people on the left and the right who don't support this, but it is not a violation. As I read and listen to what he said, as he said not. Others have said. Trump has been talking about trying to deal with iron for decades. Other presidents have for decades. He saw the opportunity in alliance with Israel to do it, and he's got I think, pretty specific objectives. Some are must have, some would be nice to have, like regime change, and I think he's gonna achieve as much as he can at as low as cost as possible, and not We're not gonna be building schools in Tehran. 00:34:28 Speaker 2: I'm quite confident of that. 00:34:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's I think that's well said. You know, Trump is the audible president. He Charlie used to say that the unpredictability was the point. Yes, so we don't know what he holds in a clothes hand and an open hand. What are the must haves? What are the want to haves? Here? Ultimately, I think Israel's pushing for regime change. I think Trump's willing to deal with this regime if it's if it's a moderate actor. You know, we're just not one hundred percent sure. By the way, I want to I want to play We're running out of time. There's a cut here. We have him nineteen eighty a President Trump raging against Iran nineteen eighty You know what was he thirty thirty three in that at that point or something? You know. 00:35:09 Speaker 13: So I've played it. I played it on my show. It's a great clip and it illustrates the point. This is not some political gambit, This is not some whim, this is not some Israel you know, forcing his hand. He's long said this is important. You guys are too young. But if you're his age or my age. He's older than me, but the same idea. What Iran did during the Carter years really was informative for how we perceive this regime, and he's been on it since then. I think probably wish he dealt with it in the first term. 00:35:39 Speaker 3: Mark Halprin, great work, as always, Thank you for your honest and. 00:35:42 Speaker 13: Now good to see you both stay away from your big burly neighbors. 00:35:46 Speaker 3: We will do that you too. 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Thank you for the great work that you're doing, and for the entire team for continuing what is an important legacy for the future of America. 00:37:40 Speaker 3: So thank you, thank you, thank you for saying that you have unveiled an important bill. I think probably the most consequential immigration bill that I have ever seen. And as somebody that follows this this subject closely, sir, I'm very excited to see it. I know it faces an uphill battle. But explain your bill, the Assimilation Act, what it would do, and why it's necessary well, and. 00:38:05 Speaker 16: I would argue that this is quite frankly, one of the most important pieces of conversations but also pieces of legislation that we will really try to undertake and pass in modern history. So if you go back to nineteen sixty five, the Heartseller Act literally open the floodgates, this tidal wave of immigration. This really this occupation that we've seen across America with illegals who are flooding our communities. And so what this does is go back to common sense immigration, simply meaning that if you come here, we get to vet you, we make sure that you actually have a skill, a marketable skill that you can deliver to the American people. So if you come here and you can't work, you can't get a job, then you don't get to come in. Because what we've seen is roughly fifty to sixty percent of the Afghanis that came here are on social welfare. Look at the Somalians that have come here, almost eight are on social welfare. They're not coming here to make America great. They're coming here to make themselves greater. And quite frankly, some would say we're a melting pot, but at the end of the day, we have to take care of the American taxpayer first. So look, it ends chain migration, it ends the tidal wave, the flooding, it ends the H one V visa scam, and we can actually vet people, so if you're a member of a gang, you don't get to come in. 00:39:24 Speaker 2: It's quite simple. 00:39:25 Speaker 3: Actually, I love that. So Heartseller was a sixties era legislation. Blake knows the history better than most, but it basically set up these things that we've been railing about on this show for years, even when Charloie was here, chain migration, visa lottery, all of this stuff that makes no sense for the common good of the country. It gets rid of that heartseller also kind of was avert It reverted some of the nineteen twenties immigration law. Right, that was the quota system. What does your bill do with that? 00:39:54 Speaker 16: Yeah, so it really goes back to more again common sense approach where we can prioritize whether it's country, trees, occupations. This is the United States of America. We quite frankly have one of the most liberal immigration policies in the world. All right, think about that for a moment. People rail against us on our immigration policies. Yet Mexico and Canada are more strict than we are. And so this takes us back where literally to this idea of it's our borders, our borders. We get to decide, so if we need a particular occupation, if it makes sense to have more Europeans here versus folks quite frankly from parts of Africa who. 00:40:33 Speaker 2: May want to kill us. 00:40:34 Speaker 16: We get to make those determinations based off of data. And at the end of the day, this has to be data driven. And so again by stripping away all of the politics, by stripping away all of the nonsense that quite frankly, is corrupted. 00:40:49 Speaker 2: It's abuse. 00:40:50 Speaker 16: So like the H one B visa scam that's literally taking jobs away from American workers. So you can have someone who went to college, who got a degree, affecting to have that good paying job, to start a family, to buy a home, and then what's happened is cheap labor from overseas is being imported into this country and putting Americans out of jobs. Guess what, it's America first for a reason that also means American workers first. 00:41:15 Speaker 3: Amen. 00:41:15 Speaker 4: Yeah, representative, So obviously, get rid of chain migration, get rid of the diversity besa emphasis on skills. 00:41:23 Speaker 5: What does your bill do in. 00:41:24 Speaker 4: Terms of just the sheer annual number of people coming into the United States? 00:41:29 Speaker 5: Does it set a cap on it? Does it set the floor on it? 00:41:32 Speaker 3: What's the number? 00:41:34 Speaker 16: So there's a couple of things, without getting too much in the weeds, there's lots of different caps in our immigration systems. It brings almost all of those down. It also prevents when you look at like a lottery system or migration, it prevents any one country from being able to dominant dominate kind of that pipeline of people coming into this country. Well, well, quite frankly, we've seen a disproportion number of folks from India using the H one B visa program, and again we should be able to determine who uses those, and quite frankly, so with the bill, like specific to H one B visas, there's a two hundred percent number in there, so that if you're going to use someone by way of the H one B visa, you're not not only paying them market rate, you're paying them twice the market rate, so that we know that this is a unique situation, and then you're not displacing American worker because we see that over and over and over again. We're someone who might otherwise make a job paying one hundred thousand dollars, they're bringing someone from overseas, India, wherever, and they're paying them sixty or seventy thousand dollars. And again you have Americans, students, kids, trying to start their lives and they can't get a job because our immigration system has become a scam. 00:42:48 Speaker 3: So in nineteen ninety, with the Immigration Act signed by George H. W. Bush, it took the annual green cards from about five hundred thousand a years to one point two in esence one point, which I think is absurd by the way, in my opinion, the country's full. We're seeing the erasure of our country. We're seeing the fleecing of our social welfare system. We obviously Minnesota was a big wake up call to Blake's point. Does this get us back to five hundred thousand? 00:43:16 Speaker 2: Is this? 00:43:17 Speaker 3: Is there no cap like that or no floor? 00:43:20 Speaker 16: Let me double check, but yes, there's a cap in there. The exact number because it is. It is quite frankly a complex bill and it's still a work in progress. But I'm like you, let let's just close it down. I can't get that through Congress. So this starts. This gives us a starting place to figure out. 00:43:36 Speaker 7: All right, we're going I have. 00:43:37 Speaker 16: An idea, my team and I we have an idea. We're going to put forward this framework. Then we're going to come to you, We're going to come to other groups that have expertise in certain areas when to come to immigration policy, and we're going to make this better. We're going to make this stronger, and we're going to make it for the American people, not for other countries that are abusing our immigration system. 00:43:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the people need to understand that what we've lived through in the United States, just say, since nineteen ninety is the largest move of humanity in human history. It's the largest. One part of that is that we have more people on planet Earth they than we did during these other big migratory waves in ancient history or less ancient history. It is the largest move of humanity into the United States. And that's why we use words like invasion. That's why we use words like occupation. And so I guess the point that just to underscore here, you're repealing Heartseller. It's a full repeal and nineteen ninety Immigration Act repealing aspects of that. But we're going to lower the number. And I agree, I would go full immigration moratorium if we could, I do a net zero. I agree with you that we cannot get that through Congress right now. That's why I'm championing anybody but The's voices who is willing to take a stand on that. So thank you. But the truth is we're probably not going to be able to get this built through Congress just yet either. 00:44:55 Speaker 16: What needs to happen, you know, I think we're in the unique opportunity, a unique situation. 00:45:01 Speaker 2: Obviously, the Senate is a challenge. 00:45:03 Speaker 16: But when you look at the ways, the fraud, the abuse, the data points that we're putting out there that when you have fifty sixty percent of Afghans or on social welfare, they're not coming here to work. When you look at the Somalians, the billions of dollars that have been stolen from Americans and the fact that again seventy eighty percent are on social welfare, people are waking up. And so just like this Save America Act with voting, I think the American people are going to demand that we reform our immigration system. 00:45:31 Speaker 3: Rep. Andy Ogles, thank you so much, sir, and thank you for your courage on this issue. And we need brave truth tellers like you pushing this conversation like a drum beat. It is existential to the country. It simply is. Andy Ogles is a dog with a bone on immigration. We're going to have him back on again soon. I'd love your thoughts on repealing Heartseller, the nineteen sixty four legislation that completely transformed America's immigration system, and then nineteen ninety the Immigration Act signed by HW Bush with Ted Kennedy, the quote unquote lion of the Senate peering over his shoulder that took our green cards up to one point two million. Tell us, what do you want to see happen in our immigration system? Do you want a moratorium? Do you want a net zero moratorium? Do you want uh to see this bill? You think it's smart to get something like this past because it's maybe more passable. Want to hear your thoughts Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. All right'm gonna play some since we're talking about immigration, let's play a little some clips from Charlie talking about the subject Cut seventeen. 00:46:30 Speaker 2: The fight the future. 00:46:32 Speaker 1: The energy is going to be on who do we legally let into America? 00:46:39 Speaker 3: That is the question legally let into the country? Blake, did you write that for him? 00:46:44 Speaker 4: Because I can't even remember at this point, But yeah, it's it's always been important, Like the our nation has been so insane on illegal immigration, on open borders that it is easy to lose sight of the fact that even if even with a total shutdown of illegal immigration, we still have an insane immigration policy that lets in a huge number of people who are not improving America, who are not adding to the country, who are actively harming it. Subtracting with it, causing problems, damaging the country's future. 00:47:13 Speaker 5: And I'm very glad you know representative ogles. 00:47:16 Speaker 4: For those who haven't followed in the news, he had remarks the other day anti Islam, face backlash for it twenty years ago, he would apologize and go into hiding, he might resign. Instead, he turns around and introduces a bill to repeal Heartseller. And as we said in the last segment, this won't pass in the immediate future. We don't have the votes for it. But this is the process that must unfold. We need to build a Republican Party, a conservative movement that has a coherent and sharply more restrictionist view on immigration, that wants to defend American heritage. We didn't even get into it in the last segment, but one of the things about heart Seller, when they passed it, Ted Kennedy and others came out and said, this will not change the demographic nature of America. It will keep America as it is, because that is what all the voters of the time wanted. Americans literally have never voted to just transform themselves into this giant globalist project. They have never voted to become post national. They have never voted to abandon their heritage, and yet what we got is. 00:48:22 Speaker 5: A bill that sneakily did that. 00:48:24 Speaker 4: And then people come along thirty years later and say America is just an idea America. Americans have never just considered themselves an idea. 00:48:31 Speaker 3: Now, I totally agree this whole We're a nation of immigrants, No, we're not. We're a nation of settlers that conquered a land and made it prosperous, made it thrive. I know that the indigenous peoples there was indigenous peoples here before, but you know, honestly, every land has been conquered, and that is a faulty argument. It's a straw man. I want to read some of these emails. Angela says, I live in South Carolina. I really appreciate the interviews you conducted with both Senate candidates for our state. I agreed with both Dan's and Lynch on many topics same, but Mark Lynch is that new politician I believe we need in the Senate. Dan's has the political and legal experience, but we need a shake up, something different. Mark Lynch is not a career politician. That's the whole point of ousting Lindsay Graham, my vote is for Mark Lynch. All right, fair enough. I think that's that's good. Aaron says, enough. Mark Halprin on emphasizing ram Paul's pride, we have real threats to go after. That was my take. I think Lindsay, sorry, Ran Paul is putting personal animus ahead of country. And hey, maybe he's got a point. Maybe it is a character a legitimate line of inquiry because it strikes it character of Mark Wayn mullen. But I think we're going to resonate with Mark Wayne. 00:49:47 Speaker 5: We have Patty. 00:49:48 Speaker 4: She says, we absolutely need a complete moratorium on any immigration and less and until we convet the ones that are already here and revamp the system. I think coming around to that, we've been the top around long enough. 00:50:01 Speaker 3: So riddle me this. How do you properly vet one point two million people coming into your country if you do not have at least two to one staffing to even just look into their cases, find out about them. I mean, in my opinion, you need half a million people to vet that properly. I'm sorry. You need full interviews, you need you need to see what their life is like. You need to interview family, friends, their their employer. Like you can't properly vet one point two million legal immigrants, let alone the illegal situation. The visa overstates it's impossible. 00:50:32 Speaker 5: And that's part of the thing. 00:50:33 Speaker 4: The sad thing is is like there are some people where it would be trivial to vet that they're fine, and like we those are the ones we actually throw up every obstacle on the. 00:50:43 Speaker 5: World to letting in. Like anyone knows that. 00:50:46 Speaker 4: The hardest, the people have the hardest time coming to the US are the ones we would most obviously want here, like someone who has world class skills in. 00:50:54 Speaker 5: Some particular field. 00:50:55 Speaker 4: They're the ones who have are jumped through every single hoop with their employer, fill all this paper work out, make sure they don't get whacked by the government. And then the ones who've come in with zero effort for decades on end. Are the people who have so little to add that you know, they have very little history. They just walk over the border. They're working here illegally, they're coming here. They're the people who come in as guest workers and then just skip town when they would they're supposed to come, you know, go back. There're people who come as students and they just overstay the visa and they count on the system never catching them. And that's the system we've gotten used to. There's so many people actively breaking our rules all the time that if we just bothered enforcing them at all, a huge number of problems would go away. It's a lot like crime. We see all this urban decay that happens because we just do not do the basics. You make a huge amount of crime go away when you say you can't jump subway turnstiles, when oh, if you do graffiti, we're going to put you in jail if you do, you know, some basic illegal gun possession charge because you're a felon. When you force all those things, all the problems go down. And it's the same thing with immigration. If you're getting the people who just super obviously shouldn't be here because they don't have a work permit, because they don't have it because they you know, they skipped a court hearing, and you just grabbed them and kicked them out right away, and you were super efficient about it, so many of our problems. 00:52:13 Speaker 3: Would go away. I totally agree, well, said Kimberly says, I said this a couple months ago and don't recall a reply is their way to listen to archive podcast. We are working on that right now. We've been working on for a while actually, so our the podcast feed this has been you know, a discussion on social media only puts a hundred of the past episodes out and so once we got far enough along, obviously Charlie's own podcast got sort of timed out and they fell off the feed. It's a data thing. We're working on it right now, coming up with a solution. So you can expect this week for Charlie's episodes to go back all the way back. 00:52:53 Speaker 4: Got any live stream he ever did is on Rumble, so that's one of the easiest ways to find that. 00:52:57 Speaker 3: And it's already there. Yeah, we didn't delete anything. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at y Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about y Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments, maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Why ref I will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America and we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. 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James tot twenty five. 00:54:26 Speaker 7: Now YouTube all it's fourteen. 00:54:32 Speaker 15: The petitioner Brenda Brown hands cash money to the homeless person not only for signing the California Ballot Initiative, but also as payment for them to register to vote. 00:54:43 Speaker 3: Now, because you have a register, I need to register you. 00:54:45 Speaker 15: I get paid too, I need to get paid. That is a federal felony. And it didn't just happen once. It happened over and over and over again. We personally witnessed and s'tly filmed this happening at least twenty eight times over the span of our investigation. And that is just in Los Angeles. Many of the homeless have zero understanding of what it is that they're actually signing. 00:55:12 Speaker 5: But what is that for? 00:55:14 Speaker 3: You know, that's amazing, James. Even the homeless people are like, have enough sense to say, what am I signing here? Tell us what are we watching in that? And I mean, obviously I find it to be explosive, but explain it to our audience here. 00:55:31 Speaker 15: It's a federal felony for someone to pay someone to register to vote. That's a federal felony. The United States Attorney in California has already responded, they're also paying cash to get them to sign a signature a on a California petition that's a misdemeanor. That's also a crime, could be a felony in California. So you're watching groups, petitioners NGOs encouraging people in Los Angeles to sign California ballot petitions, to to forge signatures, and giving cash to get homeless to register to vote, all criminal activity. We receive a statement from Governor Gavin Newsom. He said this is illegal. People should be prosecuted. We receive a statement from the Secretary of State's office in California, the LADA, and the United States Attorney and they are taking action on this. 00:56:20 Speaker 3: So I've been credibly told, James that there is no election fraud, that everything's on the up and up. We obviously know that there's much more to this story than the Democrats, especially want to admit. This instance, you caught them dead to rights. The significance cannot be I think overstated here that the Secretary of State from California has responded. You have forced a response from Gavin Newsom saying these people should be arrested. Yes, who are these people, Who's behind this? And how widespread do we have Do we have any idea how widespread this is? 00:56:57 Speaker 15: Well, it's very widespread. It's been happening thousands and maybe even hundreds of thousands of times. We captured it over thirty times just in this video. When I say captured, I mean you can actually see the cash money being exchanged to the homeless people in exchange for their signature. You can actually see that on the videotape. That's what makes this so unique, Andrew. This is not circumstantial evidence. It's not we've heard about voter fraud or election fraud. You actually see the crime on video, which makes all the difference in the world. Who's doing it. They're petitioners, They're people who are are gathering signatures for a ballot referendum in California. Who's behind them, Well, that's an interesting question. The NGOs of California, the homeless industrial complex Wineguard centers across the street, receives eight hundred million dollars of government money one hundred and twelve million dollars a year from the state on their tax return, is encouraging these people to go do this. So it's a trillion dollar industry, all government funded, and it's a conspiracy, multiple federal felonies. People want arrests they want accountability. I actually think this story will lead to arrests. And it's not just me. We have a number of other citizen journalists involved in this. We're calling it the Justice League. Today, Kim Higbee just put out a report caught the same thing on video. Tomorrow, there's gonna be another citizen journalist. They're going to release video every day each day until someone is arrested. And you can see behind me in my office here a picture of me and Charlie Kirk which I hung on the wall. Charlie said, James, just do a four or five big stories a year, and this is one of them. I'm very confident this will lead to arrests. 00:58:39 Speaker 3: I love that, yeah, because that's an interesting Charlie had a good observation there. Because your output is incredible, James. I mean you are a workhorse. You have been for years now, dating back well over a decade. And Charlie had great respect for your just your tirelessness, your dogged in the pursuit of truth and to expose corruption. And I kind of love that pivot. If you took four to five huge stories a year like this, I think maybe the impact you could argue could even be bigger, right, and so I think that's a really fascinating way to look at it. Charlie was always very smart about these things, and so have you made that pivot kind of officially. 00:59:21 Speaker 15: James, Well, we released a story every week. Every week, we released a Tuesday at one a pm. We're doing a new story. What makes this different is we're calling it part of the Justice League. We're actually a collective of citizen journalists all working on the same topic at the same time. So I think it's very important for people to be united. I don't think that the Conservatives are united, and I think you would agree with that right now. But we're citizen journalist. I'm an independent journalist, and I think what makes this story different is that we're all focused on the same topic at the same time. So over the next two weeks, we're going to be focused on this topic and this topic alone. And I see us doing that about four or five times a year. People in the in the American right are very competitive with each other. They're very independent, they're they're they're in the media, they're they're they're competing against each other. And I think that that that's the thing that needs to change people. We need to work together on the same thing, so we can apply pressure on the same exact thing at the same time to get the consequences that people want. 01:00:35 Speaker 7: People. 01:00:35 Speaker 15: What people want is accountability. What people want our arrests. They want public accountability. They want jail, they want indictments. Otherwise, nothing's going to change. I think that things will change. The story is already getting Gavin Newsom is not attacking me. It's interesting enough. He attacked Nick Shirley yesterday that went viral. He's not attacking us for this story. He's saying that there's going to be an arrest. I've heard back from the lada's office, that's the Los Angeles District Attorney. They're saying that they're looking into it, and they did indict people five years ago for similar activity. What makes this story so crazy is they're paying people to register devote. They're paying them cash, which is a federal felony. I talked to Bill A. Salia at the United States Attorney in California, and he's on it, and I think that you'll see arrests here soon. 01:01:27 Speaker 3: I love that. And by the way, I want to underscore your point that getting rid of this competition. Cam Higbey's great, Nick Shirley's great, Savannah Hernandez is great. I know that you guys are all in communication and coordinating and working on stories together now, and it's amazing. I think it's a huge development. I love to see you leading that charge, James. I think you're one of the few voices that can lead that charge to bring all the different voices together. I want to play one other clip here. You mentioned arrests. This part shocked me when I watched it. Cut twenty eight. 01:02:00 Speaker 15: Enforcement officers sitting nearby on skid row every single day don't know the California laws and plead ignorance. It begs the question, what are they even doing? Officer Maravilla of the LAPD dismissed it as a quote civil lawsuit. 01:02:16 Speaker 3: Do you do you know a lot of these people here that are making homeless sign petitions are paying cash for it. 01:02:25 Speaker 5: I haven't seen them. 01:02:25 Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen when they signed some type of paperwork, but I don't know what they were doing. 01:02:29 Speaker 1: And I saw them at that right here at the light over here in the back, yeah, but I don't know what it was for, like maybe like two weeks ago. 01:02:35 Speaker 15: I saw them signing for something, but I don't know they were getting like money. 01:02:38 Speaker 3: And a change. 01:02:39 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think they're getting like two three dollars from what I observed. 01:02:43 Speaker 5: Is that legal? 01:02:45 Speaker 7: I mean, if. 01:02:45 Speaker 3: It's nonprofit, I mean they're signing it, it's it's a consensual it's more of a civil thing. 01:02:51 Speaker 15: Great, And I don't I don't know what the police officers are actually doing there. 01:02:56 Speaker 3: It's a period. 01:02:58 Speaker 15: I mean, it's it's it's so it's it's it's so crazy and surreal. I mean, there's another video clip in this forty minute long video where the NGOs actually pretend to be the police in order to intimidate me. I mean, it's it's we're not living in America. I don't know what this even is at this point, but I know what your audience wants. You want arrests and account not exposure. You want to rest. So in order to achieve that objective, you have to have exposure. There is no arrests without exposure, correct, And you have to have exposure compounded over and over and over again. Specifically, people say there is no voter fraud. This is cash money on tape given to the homeless person from someone taking advantage of them telling them who to vote for, and that that's a felony. And this is a developing and breaking story and you're going to see arrests in the next few days. 01:03:53 Speaker 3: Amen. Well done, James O'Keefe. How do people get involved with what you're doing? Where do they find you? Give us your coordinates? 01:04:01 Speaker 15: Well, I'm involved in a lot of things. I'm you know. My organization is called Citizen Journalism Foundation. We're now tax deductible OMG. You've we're OMG o'keefemdiagroup dot com. And this new initiative is called the Justice League. You're going to see I know Savannah works with you guys at turning Point. You're going to see Anthony Rubin cam Higbee. You're going to see a number of other citizen journalists coming out in the next few days with similar reports. 01:04:29 Speaker 3: I love it. Well done, James. Great to have you back on. We'll touch base again soon as the arrests come down the pike. I'm excited to hear about that and tell tell our audience about it. Great job, Thank you. This year is a critical moment for our country as the opposition grows more aggressive and unapologetic. The fight now reaches into everyday decisions we make. 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Go to Patriot Mobile dot com slash Charlie, or you can also call nine seven to two Patriot and use the promo code Charlie for a free month of service. Don't wait, that's Patriot Mobile dot com slash Charlie or called nine seven to two Patriot lots of news today. We got through a lot. We got through the DNA testimony Pulci Gabbard. We also got through Mark Wayne Mullen, James O'Keefe's bombshell reporting and the potential repeal of heartseller. Let's call that a long shot victory, a. 01:06:10 Speaker 4: Long term project, not a long shot. A long term project. Yeah, I see in the future. 01:06:16 Speaker 3: I actually really agree with you with with with that. I believe that the people are with us. I believe we have popular support, but it yet remains so controversial within Washington, d C. Because moneyed interest. We've got the hospitality industry, We've got we've got the farm agricultural industry, but we are you know, we had an AI expert his new book Code Read yesterday, and we are staring at a future where so many jobs are going to be wiped off the table. I believe it's going to become absolutely a national security but maybe even a national security threat, but definitely a domestic a huge pre eminent issue. If we have too many people and not enough jobs. There is a massive case to be made that AI is going to wipe the table of so many jobs that we think we need all this labor for and what are we gonna do with the people that we brought in. So that's a huge, huge concern that I'm looking at. If you have seen videos, Blake, maybe you've seen them, These robots that come and pick fruit and pick vegetables faster than migrant laborers can do it. When you have hundreds of them ount in a field, this is going to happen. Maybe industries like you know, hospitality, you need somebody to actually come and change the sheets or serve the drinks and the food. Maybe you know, maybe optimists. I believe that was what it was named by Elon Musk. The robots that are going to be able to do some of this work for us in the near future. But we really genuinely need to get serious about our immigration reform. And I Am not going to stop banging the drum. We're gonna have Andy Ogles back on again and again and again. Is this goes through committee, as it gets worked up, as the bill gets refined. This is existential to the future of the country. And candidly, it's one of those domestic issues that we need to focus on more. Blake, I feel that you know, there's a I think Rich Barris has laid this out pretty clearly that there is this this penchant to look internationally, to look at foreign wars or foreign entanglements, and we need to focus on domestic issues. I think immigration is the one, two and three most important domestic issue that we can tackle. Do you agree, no? 01:08:38 Speaker 5: I think one really. 01:08:41 Speaker 4: I think the war like if this war goes about the nations recover from wars. Nations recover from catastrophic wars Japan, Japan had two A bombs dropped on the millions of them died in World War Two. It doesn't destroy the nation of Japan. They come back from that, they become one of the world's richest countries. Nations can recover from economic crashes. We recover from the Great Depression. Lots of countries have recovered from that sort of thing. What nations don't recover from is no longer being the nation that they are. And so if Britain is no longer a place of British people, if it's no longer the English and the Scots and the Welsh, it's a bunch of Pakistanis and Algerians and anyone else who's moved there. 01:09:22 Speaker 5: It's not Britain anymore. 01:09:23 Speaker 4: Like nations that cease to exist are no longer those nations, and history is littered with countries that stop to exist because you know, you could say they lost control of their borders, but what really happened is you get conquered. What is conquest, It's having other people move in and take all of your stuff and take over your things. 01:09:42 Speaker 5: And it's no different if. 01:09:44 Speaker 4: You voted to do that or if your leaders chose to do that because it would stimulate the economy. 01:09:49 Speaker 3: Got an email here from John saying John Solomon report on China. Yes, I brought that up earlier. That's the reason I felt like Tulsi missed an opportunity. I John's reporting. Can you confirms this? Maybe we'll have him on the show tomorrow to walk us through it all. But they have had this intel for a while. So Tulsi Gabbard's involvement in our election fraud cases investigations that are going on in Fulton County, in Maricopa County makes all the sense in the world when you realize that foreign countries are in fact trying to attack the integrity of our election system. So I'm all for it. I just wanted. I wanted Toulci to articulate that point. For some reason, she didn't. I'm going to trust her judgment on that. Maybe there's reasons that I'm unaware of, but it is what it is. So yeah, John, we are aware of John Solomon's reporting on that. Absolutely. Marlene says, hey, guys, I was given to understand that we're forever stuck with Lindsay Graham because South Carolina has open primaries and Dems will make sure he stays on the ballot. Is this still the case because we all know Lindsay's vote goes to his highest bidder. Great job you're all doing for Charlie. Thank you, Thank you, Marlene. She's out of Florida, Blake, do you have the details on that. I believe it is an open primary, but I do think that the odds are very high that we're going to get this to a runoff, So yeah, I mean, I would presume Democrats would bride prefer to have Lindsay grahamon just because he's bad for the brand. 01:11:17 Speaker 4: So my understanding is it's I don't think it's I mean open. I think you need a majority, so it we'll go to a runoff, which is the primary sself, I think is June ninth. 01:11:26 Speaker 5: I think a runoff is two or three weeks later than that. 01:11:30 Speaker 4: If there's no fifty percent winner, I think that's kind of nice because it seems that people do have strong preferences between either Lynch or Dan's in that primary, and well, it doesn't hurt as long as you're not voting for Lindsay. The main thing is just making sure, because I know this is so tempting on the right, is you have to make sure we don't decide like, don't get embittered, don't decide you're mad at Dan's because Lynch said you know he's from a different state, or you're super mad at Lynch because actually Dan's is very kind to Lynch, so I don't know what the attacks on him would be. But make sure there's no bad blood out of this race, because I think we're gonna agree. We want them to come together to get the win here after that goes to a runoff. 01:12:15 Speaker 3: I totally agree. Got to unite the clans when this is when they're ready to do so. Paul says, Guys, no one has said that we can put a total stop to alien truckers endangering US roads. The subject line says truckers cannot read English, et cetera. We agree at what they're doing right now. The Department of Transportation is using existing statutes or adjusting them. It's sort of using a technicality, but it's but it's within the statute. So these are levers they can pull now it, you know. So he Paul goes on to say, this is simple. Ice can be at all the stations. I actually think that that's not a bad idea. These way stations, these checkpoints, put ice there, check their check their credentials, see if they shouldn't be on the roads. I believe that's a great idea. He says. Also, the state police use portable wears. They they stop trucks wherever, no problema. Paul, these are great ideas. I'm actually gonna clip this and send it over to the Department of Transportation. Great ideas the priory you're talking about it. Maybe I'll send it to Mark Wayne Mullen to when he does get confirmed. I think the fireworks that we saw with ram Paul, between ram Paul and Mark Waynemullen, I don't think it's going to be Consequentially, I think Fetterman is going to vote for him at committee level as well, So I think Mark wayn mullen is going to get confirmed. The one question that I will that I have for Mark Wayne, he's a friend. Are you going to be rock ribbed? Are we going to stick with all of the above need to be removed. I'm down with a change in branding. I'm down with a change in tone if that gets blue states and sanctuary states to heal. But we got to be very clear that the policies are not changing. Mass deportations are mandatory. 01:14:00 Speaker 5: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charlikirk dot com