President Trump's Peace Conditions

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It seems to be something of a mystery whether or not one was even taking place. President Trump says it is. We're in The officials deny it, but I think we've we're in a clue. 00:01:32 Speaker 5: Permanent state of maximum excitement. We're maximally open to a deal, We're always on the brink of a deal, and yet we're also permanently ready to go maximally hard. It's like, listen, it's got to be Trump's. 00:01:44 Speaker 4: This is what they're calling Trump's strategy of the doctrine of unpredictability. And you know, it's kind of the point. I think it's kind of the point. So let's what are the deal parameters? And let's get to the clip that is kind of spurring a lot of this discussion. And this was a wild moment from yesterday. It happened after our show wrapped yesterday. And President Trump hints that, well, it didn't hint. He says directly that Ron sent him a present, and it has a lot of people speculating what that present could be. It's top thirteen. 00:02:17 Speaker 6: They're going to make a deal. They did something yesterday that was amazing. Actually, they gave us a present and the president arrived today. It was a very big present, worth a tremendous amount of money. And I'm not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize and they gave it to us, and they said they were going to give it. So that meant one thing to me, would deal with the right people. No, it wasn't nuclear related. It was oil and gas related, and it was a very nice thing they did. But what it showed me is that we're dealing with the right people. 00:02:55 Speaker 5: It's so funny how he phrases that because the description, even though your mind goes to you know, it's President Trump, so you picture him getting like a giant medallion he could hang in, you know, the Oval. 00:03:08 Speaker 7: Office or something. 00:03:09 Speaker 5: But the implication I got is it could even be it could be something more abstract, like worth a tremendous amount of money. 00:03:14 Speaker 7: Oil and gas related. Well, we already saw the damage. 00:03:17 Speaker 5: We saw the damage for example, when Iran lobbed those missiles at that gas facility in Katar. Maybe they got evidence that an attack on a similar target got called off or got blocked. 00:03:28 Speaker 4: It could be anything. It could be straight at horror moves. It could be carg Island, it could be that. It could be a number of things. Trump's not giving us any details. But what was interesting about the way this played out yesterday was that the other legacy media outlets were denying Trump's claim that there is We're not getting any reports from Iranian sources that there is actually a peace deal in negotiation, and then eventually the legacy media was forced to walk back those claims. SOT twenty one now learning from a senior Iranian source that there has been an outreach between the US and Iran. 00:04:03 Speaker 3: The source tells CNN that this was initiated by Washington. 00:04:08 Speaker 4: All right, so CNN's only point of differentiation here is that Washington reached out to Iran. First President Trump says, oh, they're desperate for a deal. H and so it's it's remains unclear. Then there was this whole story that Iran did not want to work with Jared Kushner and Steve Whitcoff. They only wanted to work with jd Vance. Now jd Vance and the White House are denying those claims calling it foreign disinformation. So take from that what you will, but it remains that it does look like, you know, based on President Trump's earlier warning, he gave them five days or he was going to start striking their energy facilities, their oil and gas infrastructure. He says he's got four days left and that they want to make a deal. We'll see, Yeah, we'll play another Well, let's play another clip from President Trump. So to give more flavor, here Sop fourteen. 00:05:01 Speaker 6: But I can tell you they'd like to make a deal, and who wouldn't if you were there. Look, their navy's gone, their air force is gone. Their communications are gone. That's the biggest problem. It's very hard to communicate them between themselves. All of the anti aircraft is gone. Most of their missiles are gone. We shot either shot them or they shot them and don't have them anymore. They're down to a trickle. They're pretty much everything they have is gone. I don't know, can you name one thing that's not gone, or can you name one thing that's doing well. You know, if you read the papers, you think we're tied, you think we're in a tough battle. We are roaming free over Tehran. 00:05:44 Speaker 5: It is really it does drive that point home. I saw a good comparisons. Like imagine we were in a war with China and three weeks in the president was dead, the vice president was dead, a bunch of Congress was dead, a bunch of the generals were dead. No one knows who's in charge of the US military. All of our boats sank, all our planes blow up. They can fly wherever they want. Everyone's terrified of where a drone would strike. But we did close the Pandama Canal and maybe twenty Chinese are dead. And who would you say is winning in that arrangement. 00:06:10 Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting because you know, I gave you guys a note of warning. Right there was a strike near in Israel from Iran near a nuclear facility there. That was a warning. There was also reports potentially that Iran had stockpiles that were not previously known of even more advanced missilestock. I have been calling around a lot of sources on this, and I will tell you, just as somebody that's an objective observer of this situation, the tone behind the scenes seems to have lifted. I'm hearing a lot more positivity about the potential outcome of this war. Speaker Johnson is now saying he thinks Operation Epic Fury is about to get wrapped up this week. I don't know. Maybe that's wishful thinking, maybe that's glass half full rose colored glasses. But I will tell you just the tone of people that I'm speaking to has shifted. There is a note of positivity, oil markets of edged down, which is a good sign. And if we can get a fifteen point plan over the finish line, that would be good. That's what's going on right now. 00:07:14 Speaker 5: Reportedly, a fifteen point plan was sent by the US through whatever into I think through Pakistan, Pakistan whoever in Iran we are currently negotiating with, and we don't have the list of the fifteen points, but there's reporting from the New York Times, from Al Jazeera and others on what it probably includes. That would include a initial thirty day ceasefire, dismantling of Iran's existing nuclear facilities at Fordeau Isfahan, Natan's a permanent that were demanding a permanent commitment from Iran to never develop any nuclear capabilities. 00:07:46 Speaker 4: President Trump has said over and they've already agreed that Trump has said they've already. 00:07:51 Speaker 5: Agreed reopening the Strait of Horror moves an end this is a big one, an end of Iran supporting these military proxies across the Middle East. That's like Hesbola and Lebanon, that's the Huthis in Yemen that those have constantly been this kind of soar that's caused at tensions and problems all over the place. I mean, we have, separately from the Iran war, there is a war going on in Lebanon right now that has killed as many, if not more people than the one in Iran, and that's because of Hesbola existing. 00:08:19 Speaker 7: In southern Lebanon. And so they have similar demands. 00:08:23 Speaker 5: And we even agreed apparently that we would have a US support for electricity generation at a civil nuclear plant if they're really insisting they need some sort of nuclear power. So far, Iran's propaganda has said they're rejecting all of this and instead they have their own five point plan, which would include that we give them control of the Strait of Horror moves permanently. 00:08:47 Speaker 7: I think we're unlikely to make that agreement. 00:08:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got no cards on that. I don't think I have some cards, but they don't have a lot of cards, but yeah, listen. And by the way, President Trump has said that zero point one, two and three of his fifteen point plan is no nuclear weapons. 00:09:01 Speaker 5: And it's Trump, so you can imagine one, two and three. I'll just say weapons. 00:09:06 Speaker 4: But listen there, I'm just I'm calling balls and strikes here. I'm telling you that the tone has shifted with many people that were very negative just a few days ago. There seems to be a sense of optimism. Let's hope that that holds. Let's hope that this ends quickly. All right, I want to pivot our attention to what's happening with this DHS funding fight, because it's all happening upon the backdrop of the Sheridan Gorman killing in Chicago. Right, So, you have DHS to defend and protect the homeland. One of those jobs is yes, to port illegal aliens, to port criminals. Some of that is FEMA funding, some of that is TSA, a lot of these different ages. DHS is huge. And then now you've got Secretary Mark Wynn Mullan who's just been sworn in. Congratulations to Secretary Mullan. He was he's been a friend of this sh and been on many, many times, and so I think he's the perfect guy for the job. We had Tom Homan on yesterday saying that he was the perfect guy at the perfect time. So let's hope that his tenure is a successful one. But you know, listen, I don't typically play clips from Tom Emmer. I got some history and scar tissue just from some of that stuff. But he did say this very well here, and so I'm going to give the man his due cut twelve. 00:10:23 Speaker 8: The illegal alien who killed Sheridan Gorman is exactly who Democrats are fighting to protect with their needless shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security. 00:10:33 Speaker 3: Their absurd list. 00:10:34 Speaker 8: Of demands paints a clear picture open borders, limited deportations, and violent illegal aliens roaming free. Democrats want to return America to the days of the Biden border crisis. That's not going to happen. We're not going to go back. This week, the House is going to vote once again to fund all of DHS. We will vote to end this shutdown, pay the frontline here heuro's border patrol tsa in the Coastguard, and put the security of our nation first. But Democrats will continue to obstruct Why because they'd rather protect violent illegal aliens over the American people. 00:11:16 Speaker 4: I mean, and that's really what it comes down to. They want to protect illegal aliens. I don't know why. Now their newest demand is that they want to remove funding from HSI, which is the investigative arm of Homeland Security. 00:11:29 Speaker 5: It's exactly as we said yesterday, which is the problem with talking about so much of the left is when you honestly describe their policies, you sound insane because it is unfathomably. 00:11:41 Speaker 7: Deranged and evil. 00:11:42 Speaker 5: But when you're defunding homeland security investigations, when you're defunding ICE, the policy intent of this is make it so anyone in the world can come to America and it is impossible for them to be taken out. They'll say, oh, we want the worst offenders to be deported, but they do not believe it. 00:11:59 Speaker 7: They are lying. 00:12:00 Speaker 4: You obviously don't want that. If you want to defund HSI. 00:12:03 Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're defunding that, if you want if you're going to make it, it's it's like when they say, we know voter fraud doesn't exist, so we're never ever going to investigate it or indict anyone or look at it a total see no evil, because if these people are showing up at the border and you're going to let them in and then if they blow off their hearing, you're not going to find them. You're not going to have any ice agents to make the arrest and ship them back. You're going to bar agents from even going to courtrooms and prisons to pick up the ones who get caught committing crimes. Your position is, anyone, especially criminals, has the right to come to the United States and stay here forever. 00:12:39 Speaker 4: Well, what's interesting is we have this clip from none other than Hakeem Jeffries in twenty fifteen talk about playing politics with DHS funding Top four. 00:12:49 Speaker 9: We are here today to do a single job, and that should be to fund fully the Department of Homeland Security. Anything else is an advocation of our responsibility. Anything else is an act of legislative malpractice, simply because of the inability of my friends on the other side of the aisle to satisfy the thirst of the extreme right wing anti immigration base of the party. And so we're playing political games at a time when the safety and the security of the American people is being threatened. 00:13:26 Speaker 4: Ah well, that's a far cry from the modern Democrat Party. Let's go ahead and play. This is Philly da Larry Krassner. Soros funded Larry Krassner. He's now threatening to arrest ICE agents if they come to his airport to help you lessen the security lines to nine. 00:13:45 Speaker 3: This is how it works. 00:13:47 Speaker 10: You commit crimes within the jurisdiction that is the city and County of Philadelphia. 00:13:53 Speaker 3: I prosecute you. That is how it works. 00:13:56 Speaker 10: No, I don't take a phone call from the President saying let them go. No, the President cannot pardon you. I'll say it again, the President cannot pardon you. And yes, I will put you in handcuffs, and I will put you in a courtroom. 00:14:11 Speaker 3: And if necessary, I will put you in a jail cell. 00:14:14 Speaker 4: It's it's infuriated. They treat ICE agents like they are the Gestapo. That's why they describe them like the Gestapo. This is the same Crassner, by the way, who was promising to hunt down ICE agents like nazis a couple. 00:14:26 Speaker 5: He's just despicable. He is a man who loves criminals. He supports criminals. He celebrates when criminals are able to kill America. 00:14:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it. That's what's hilious comment is that he's saying, I hunt down criminals and I prosecute criminals. Well, no you don't, Larry Krassner, No you don't. Actually, you get to pick and choose which criminals if you want to hunt down. 00:14:45 Speaker 5: And we have one more blast from the It feels like a blast from the past to me, but it really is indicative of the values of the left that persists. There is no moderation on the immigration issue from them. And this is so we were talking about Sheridan Gorman. 00:14:57 Speaker 4: She was murdered. 00:14:58 Speaker 7: She was murdered. 00:14:58 Speaker 5: She was a student at Loyola in Chicago, and this is how her own student newspaper wrote up what had happened. They wrote an article about it that had the title immigrant man charged in murder of Sheridan Gorman, DHS involved. And they have updated their story and issued a lengthy apology because they say they didn't write about it in the way that reflects their standards and values, because they described the man who murdered Sheridan Gorman allegedly as an illegal immigrant. 00:15:28 Speaker 4: Yeah, go to that headline again, that image of it. 00:15:30 Speaker 5: So that language does not align with associated press style, nor does it align with the values of this newspaper. No human's existence is illegal, and we quickly changed our wording to reflect that we acknowledge the harm such language can cause and the power and importance of the words we choose to use. We deeply regret these errors. How about we deeply regret that in a llegal foreigner came to the United States and murdered a woman in a robbery, a woman who did nothing wrong and was basically executed by someone who should have never been here. 00:16:03 Speaker 4: That's that's a truly offensive, disgusting, gross headline from the student paper. 00:16:10 Speaker 5: The Loyola Phoenix. Yes, I believe so. 00:16:12 Speaker 4: Oh god. I mean, you know, we're not dealing with with sane, irrational actors here. You know, there's been a lot of talk is iran and irrational actor. We have very irrational actors right here. 00:16:23 Speaker 5: Iran has to be more rational than the person who wrote this article. 00:16:29 Speaker 4: Let's talk about what's really happening right now. New data shows financial stress is at an all time high. Millions of Americans are at a breaking point, debt maxed out, no extra money, no room to breathe. And this isn't just lower income households anymore. 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Turning Point Action endorsed. Welcome back to the show. 00:17:40 Speaker 2: Sir, Hey, great to be on guys. Hope you're doing well. 00:17:42 Speaker 4: Absolutely I want to read a a tweet here from Bill mlusion. He said breaking acting TSA administrator, Miss ha Nuin McNeil testifies that currently TSA is suffering the longest weight lines in agency history, with call out rates hitting forty to fifty percent at some airports, and more than four hundred employees have quit since the shutdown began. There is over one billion dollars in paychecks outstanding. What are we doing here, Chip. 00:18:13 Speaker 11: Well, what's happening here is Democrats are trying to leverage and hold hostage to the American people to try to score political points, which is somewhat ironic because I don't know how they're scoring political points with anybody other than the very invaders and proponents of sanctuary cities that they're standing alongside. 00:18:29 Speaker 2: Look, minlely gripe is. 00:18:31 Speaker 11: I think Republicans need to do a better job on the Hill of painting the picture that it is Democrats that is causing this issue. We've got to go on offense that Democrats are making the lives of the American people miserable. I had friends in Houston. I think you saw probably on social media. Hopefully didn't experience it yourself. Friends of mine did in Houston that were four and five and six hour waste. They missed their flights, spent overnight in the airport. This stuff is having a real impact on Americans. Meanwhile, Democrats are wanting to saddle up with the very people who are causing the issues. So we've got to just keep our foot on the gas. I don't really love what I was hearing come out of the Senate about some sort of you know, well, let's fund DHS all except for ice. Look, Democrats are saying that we shouldn't have ICE out there enforcing the law and removing dangerous aliens, and for that they want to make Americans wait in line and not be able to go travel around the country. Let's make them own it, and let's stand up for ice. Let's not try to give them a hall pass and an off ramp to. 00:19:30 Speaker 2: Deal with ice. 00:19:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, so, you know, you keep hearing from the Democrats that, hey, we've offered these standalone TSA funding bills to get that off the table. What do you make of that? That allegation, that approach that they're taking. Is it true, what's not true? Why would we not take that et cetera. 00:19:48 Speaker 11: Well, Look, first of all, we isolated DHS when we funded government except for DHS, right, and then now you're getting into DHS and so they're leaving all these other things unfunded. Thanks, we had money sitting there in the big beautiful bill we thought ahead last year, had the money there were able to use for ice and border patrol. But that's leaving TSA and FEMA and Coast Guard, other entities, secret Service to other things that are left holding the bag. So my view is the more you keep isolating it down, the more you're giving Democrats the ability to say, yeah, we're gonna hold ice hostage. Right, we're gonna stop enforcement and interior porcement. I mean we need to say, wait a minute. Our job is to fund the Department Homeland Security. Don't let them, you know, whittle that down. We should be standing up and saying, look, we're going to fund DHS, and we're doing that. We're setting them bills, and the Senate ought to just keep forcing the boats on them and make them own it. I'm not in favor of whittling it down. That being said, whatever we need to do to try to do our job to make sure we keep people safe and get TSA doing their job. You know, I'm willing to have all the conversation we need to. We're trying to responsibly govern. The President's trying to make sure we're you know, dealing with ran we're doing our job here that we're defending the homeland and Democrats playing politics with it. 00:21:04 Speaker 2: So we're all trying to figure out how to break them. 00:21:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, I completely agree. You give them so much leverage, by the way, chip if you if you give them, if you start whittling it down and giving them one other pet project to then debate that. So I completely agree with you. Congressman. So, uh, let's turn our attention to Save Act. You've been one of the leaders on the Save America Act. Uh it seems like, you know, I called it failure theater in the Senate. I feel like that's where we're still at. You got got great patriots like Mike Lee that are fighting like with all everything they've got, and I think he's coming out looking like an absolute rock star here. What what is your assessment of the progress being made or not being made on the Save America Act? 00:21:43 Speaker 11: Well, I think you were about to say fighting like heck again, Uh, and uh, you know, like yeah, that's and that's perfect for my good, my good Mormon friend Mike Lee, who's is the only time he gets salty language is when he's around bad influences. But but Mike is a great American, one of my best friends here. He's doing a fantastic job along with our mutual friend Kleida Mitchell is one of the great minds behind this bill. He and I worked together two years ago. I think I remember I saw earlier somebody retweeted one of Charlie's tweets from the summer of twenty four where he said he agreed with the Elon and Elon was an early supporter of the bill we'd introduced to say, guys, we should just guarantee that we know the only American citizens are voting, clean up the voter rolls, and sure we have processes to check citizenship. And Charlie was an early supporter and adopter of promoting the Save Act. We obviously added voter I d met the same America Act. It's a great bill. We've got it through the House. Mike is pushing it hard. And is it failure theater? Yes, right now, if you look at what they're doing, there's a certain element to that. 00:22:40 Speaker 2: But I would say the fact that we've. 00:22:42 Speaker 11: Now been on it for eight and nine days in the Senate and we forced them through the weekend and we've got the leader and everybody trying to figure out what to do, means we're actually forcing them to do their job. Normally, they just kind of shrug it off and go give a press conference. So all of the work, all that Scott Presseler is doing, all that you guys are doing, all the effort by Elon and everybody to elevate this, and Mike Lee and then us in the House and the President. Let's you know, be very clear. The President has been a loud voice for this. I think everybody in America is saying, guys, get it done. And look, I'm a message to Garcia. 00:23:13 Speaker 2: Guy. 00:23:14 Speaker 11: I don't know if you've read that old piece. That's a great piece about it. Hey, get it done. I don't care how you do it. Get it done. That's what the American people want. They don't want to know about all the mess just deliver it. So that's my message, Senators. You figured out how to get it done, let's go do it, but no more excuses. 00:23:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. And it's interesting. You brought up Elon, and you know, maybe people would find this interesting, but you know, I've heard stories of Elon being presented some of this data behind the scenes. And you know, Elon's a guy that's used to looking at software, he's used to looking at data. He's used to looking at physical hardware as well, and he's assessed it. And there's a reason why a guy like Elon Musk knows that this is existential to the future of the Republic. There's so I don't I don't have any more details to share than that, other than when a guy like Elon looks at the data and the information and the evidence set and says this is existential, you should probably take his word for that. And so, yeah, we got to get this done. You know, one other question on this, because I want to pivot to We'll keep this short, but I know Senator Mike Lee is not in favor of doing this via reconciliation. You're not in the Senate, but you know, what's your take on reconciliation something that Senator Kennedy is pushing versus getting it done, talking philibus or whatever. 00:24:29 Speaker 11: Again, I'm somebody who's always willing to sit down at a table and find a way to succeed and to deliver. We did it on the big beautiful bill, right. There are a lot of things in there, moving parts. I fought hard to get rid of Green new scam subsidies. Side note, By the way, a bunch of leftists from Burbank, California ran a million dollars of ads against me in a Republican primary because they wanted to end my career because I was fighting so hard on the Green new scam subsidies, which is one of the key things that President ran on. I bring that up because look, when you go through all of this, I will find a way to get it. If we can do it on reconciliation, great. But color me skeptic, right because last year we got shut down by the rulings of the parliamentarian in the Senate that you can do this kind of thing through it. I think Republicans and the Senate are looking for an off ramp to move down the field and then say they did something when they tie some issue with voter id or they say well, we'll only give you a certain amount of funding if you do XYZ. None of that will force the recalcitrant blue states to actually do their job of ensuring that only citizens are voting. None of it will, I think clear it up so that we can overturn the ruling that says that states like Arizona can't check voter roles. You all know Arizona, Well, they actually have to run two elections sets of data. They are able to check for citizenship for state and local elections, but they can't for federal so they have to run two because of federal rules and regulations. 00:25:54 Speaker 12: In the law. 00:25:54 Speaker 2: So we need to change the law hard to do that. 00:25:57 Speaker 11: On reconciliation, I think that's sort of you know, I don't want to say gas lighting, but I do think it a little bit of it is finding an all frame to say, oh, yeah, we'll do that, and it's a little bit of a headpat yeah. 00:26:08 Speaker 4: I mean, it's amazing to me how much of the power rests with the Senate parliamentarian, and there is a it seems to be a divergence of beliefs of whether you could get it through the parliamentarian. You could structure in such a way that it would get through a reconciliation bill, but then if it goes through reconciliation. There's no chance of getting this implemented in time for the midterms. 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So I'm gonna take it up you. I'll set it up it, says Rep. Chip Royce as Breitbart introduced his career Criminal Accountability Act targeting repeat offenders. You're speaking his love language, yes. 00:28:20 Speaker 5: Yes, indeed. I mean it's we've seen over and over. I was telling Andrew there's a classic headline. I think it was from New York Times, but I'm not sure, but where the headline was prison population surge despite fall in crime, and I think we were going through another wave that's happened two or three times even in our lifetimes, of us reminding ourselves that the best way to stop crime is to put a pretty tiny number of people just behind bars for good, because there are some people who, if they are free, will do crimes. 00:28:52 Speaker 4: Bring back the three strikes rule. That's what I'm about. But anyways, so yeah, tell us about your bill. 00:28:56 Speaker 11: Yeah, well, first of all, you know, look, I'm fifty three years old. I grew up in the A in high school, nineties, in college. I saw DC when it was just an absolute cesspool, you know, in the New York City obviously, when it was very dangerous. And then we we actually, you know, through broken glass, through all the different policies that you know, Mayor Giuliani and others carried out in the DC, we actually started getting this country into a pretty good spot. And we were putting criminals in jail, and we were going after ways to stop judges who were putting people back out on the street. 00:29:27 Speaker 4: Right. 00:29:27 Speaker 11: So that's what happened when we came in and we had three strikes, you're out. We had you know, mandatory sentences in order to step in front of judges who weren't doing their job. Well, then you know, things got pretty good. It's a pretty safe country. And then you heard and you just noted it's really important you noted about you know, well, who's in jail. You kept hearing people say, well, gosh, three million people in jail in the United States, more than any other country, Like, well, yeah, that that might have something to do with why we're a pretty safe country. So what happened was everybody said, well, let's start letting some of these folks out and let's go back to sort of stop on crime policies. Well, guess what crime has been spiking now we've got judges putting criminals on the streets. Crime stoppers in Houston said that there have been two hundred and twenty Houstonians who were murdered by multiple time felons who have been in and out and in and out of jail and being arrested and let free by judges. Two hundred and twenty Houstonians murdered. That's insane. That's Texas, that's not DC, that's not San Francisco. It's not New York, it's Texas. And this is one of the reasons I'm running for Attorney General. I introduced this bill federally to restore three strikes, which have been watered down through various sentencing guidelines changes over the years. And I want to restore a really better model for three strikes in you're out that really focuses on felons who engage in dangerous criminal activity. 00:30:46 Speaker 4: So what's the point? Has it work? The point? 00:30:49 Speaker 11: Well, what we do is we change the points system so that now it's structured so that if you've got you know, significant of felonies and you've engaged in dangerous crimes, then you get a full point, and then there's quarter points for other criminal activity, misdemeanors and other things. To try to account for the concerns that people had raised, like, well, we have people who are three strikes because they just you know, sold some pot like hold on. We're going to minimize that relative to the uh, you know, more dangerous crimes and the you know uh uh you know where you're engaging in crimes with a weapon, where you're engaging in dangerous crimes, and then we will change the model so that we can have an actual return to a three strikes type policy. So it's basically going after the career criminals in a way that will restore it because it's been getting watered down by virtue of people saying, well, don't go bust them because you know they had you know, one pod sail once. 00:31:42 Speaker 4: Well, I mean I completely agree. And by the way, cash less bail is an abomination, so we got to do something about that. Does your bill address that? 00:31:51 Speaker 11: This bill does not, But we absolutely need to deal with cashless bail, and that's it's you know, more of a state and local issue that on that issue, and it's one of the things that obviously the Attorney General that I be fully supporting. 00:32:00 Speaker 4: Changing You're reminded me of this clip and I don't have it loaded yet, but there was a twenty twenty three clip from MPD Chief Robert Conti, so out of DC. He's now retired, but he said, the average homicide suspect has been arrested eleven times prior to committing a homicide eleven times in DC. 00:32:18 Speaker 11: Well, it's one of those things, you know, My first legal job was actually in the Office of Attorney General, and I worked in the Prosecutor's Assistants' Division, and I worked in what we call the it's now called the Habeast Division, which is where we would go to appeals and we'd fight to leave, you know, keep people in jail, or to go ahead and execute them through capital punishment. And people ask me all the time, well what do you think about that? You know what, if you get the wrong guy, I'm like, okay, look at their rap sheets. Like I'd go through and look at these guys and I'd pull out their rap sheets and they would be this long right of just felony assault, rape, you know, theft, you know, maybe a previous murderer that they've been released on. Like these were the worst of the worst. And you know, at that time, the early two thousand, since we were doing a pretty good job of keeping him in jail or carrying out capital punishment, we moved the other way, even in Texas, and as a result, we now have increased crime. 00:33:10 Speaker 2: And I saw that. 00:33:11 Speaker 11: Clip before we over the segment change of Charlie talking about, Hey, I think DC will be a safer place if we get the National Guard in there, if the President gets his way. And guess what, DC's a much better place than it was a year ago when we had spiking crime and we had members of Congress staffers who were getting assaulted. 00:33:32 Speaker 2: Some of you are getting shot and killed. 00:33:34 Speaker 5: It's such a basic thing. Very rarely does someone start with a severe crime. They start with lesser ones. If you enforce your basic laws, you'll have fewer murders, fewer rapes, fewer severe assaults. And I'm glad you mentioned the death penalty because I know, frankly, that's an important dimension. 00:33:50 Speaker 7: Of this as well. 00:33:51 Speaker 4: We've seen as attorney General, we've. 00:33:53 Speaker 5: Seen the pattern of the left, which is, among other things, just if you get rid of the death penalty, they immediately move on to what we've seen in California where now anyone with a life sentence who's over fifty can get parole for being elderly. And so we're seeing these serial child abductors and rapists being released at an age where they could still easily offend again. So even in Texas, though I know the number of executions has gone down over time, can you tell us do you have any plan to make sure that when someone is sentenced to death for heinous crime, they will actually face accountability for it. 00:34:29 Speaker 11: Yeah, One of the things you do is Attorney general, is you're in charge of the Capital Litigation Division, the Habeas Division, to ensure that bad guys stay in jail or there you know the execution is carried out. When I was the first assistant Attorney General, I went down and with the Attorney General and we witnessed an execution of a cop killer. Met with the families, you met with the police officers who all came there. And it's important and people don't understand. This is an important part of punishment and it's where it's appropriate it should be carried out. Look, we need bad guys to be in jail, We need the worst offenders to be removed entirely. I'm in favor of capital punishment for our worst defenders. We need to make sure that we secure our border, regardless of who's in. 00:35:11 Speaker 2: The White House. That's another reason I'm running for Attorney General. 00:35:13 Speaker 11: You can't assume Donald Trump in perpetuity and all of that stuff added up with cartels, gang members, criminals on the streets, all of the leftists and the Marxists who are carrying out the Arabella network and the rent and collective and all of these groups that are funded, by the way, by our tax dollars, by outside dollars, by George Soros. 00:35:31 Speaker 2: The office of. 00:35:32 Speaker 11: Attorney General has an enormous amount of power to open their books, and we should open them. And we should also open the books of the groups that are pushing is Lam, not just Care, not just the Muzzle Brotherhood, but all of the groups that are trying to Islamify Texas. As Attorney General, Texas is not going to become as an an Islamic state. 00:35:50 Speaker 2: Texas is going to be safe and secure. Criminals will be behind bars. 00:35:54 Speaker 11: We're going to make sure that gang members are not on the streets and are border secure. 00:35:58 Speaker 4: Amen. Well, it's the biggest attorney general office in a red state in the country. It's important, Chip Roy God bless you, sir. We have your back. 00:36:05 Speaker 2: Thanks, guys, appreciate it. 00:36:09 Speaker 4: Before he ever stepped behind a microphone, Charlie understood something important. Leadership begins with learning. He didn't chase a diploma or a title. He chased truth. Through Hillsdale College's free online courses. He studied the great works of the classics, the principles of the American founding, and the life changing truths of the Bible. Those ideas didn't just inform him, They shaped his character, strengthened his convictions, and prepared him for the challenges ahead of. One of the courses he took was The Genesis Story, taught by Hillsdale Professor doctor Justin Jackson. 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We had two gals and from ASU that had like nice clothes and pretty hair, and I'm just saying, now we've got an with boots on and you know, kind of have the cowboy vibe and all that stuff. How you how you doing? How are we doing? 00:37:53 Speaker 12: I'm doing good. 00:37:54 Speaker 5: It's a little hot here, Well it's gonna be it's gonna be a lot hotter. 00:37:59 Speaker 4: Well, actually, we're gonna dip back down into normal seasonal norms. And you know, the there was like one hundred and four here. It was one hundred and four here on Sunday, and we looked back it was broke the record. And the previous record was ninety four or something like that set in the nineties. So it's been a it's been a hot spell. Uh So, Gabe, tell us about what life is like as the chapter president TPUSA in Wyoming, cause it's you'd think culturally be a little different, is it. Are you? Do you have hostilities? Has the chapter exploded in recent months? Tell us about it? 00:38:31 Speaker 13: Yeah, you know you think that being at the University of Wyoming. I'm we're the deepest red state in the country. Trump's won our state by more than by a higher percentage than any other state. But yeah, you dubbed it's not the most friendly place towards conservatives, never has been. It's kind of that one loan two blue spots in one. I mean you got Jackson and Laraman college town. So yeah, I mean, right after the assassination, like a kid in our student newspaper said that it was a duty to shoot conservatives, and. 00:38:58 Speaker 12: Like there was the celebrations on camp published that. They published that. 00:39:01 Speaker 13: Yeah, and yeah, that was quoted in the student newspaper, and we had all sorts of stuff happen like right after that event, and so it's it's kind of wild. 00:39:09 Speaker 12: Chapter's huge. 00:39:11 Speaker 13: We're the only four year university in the state, so it's kind of like where all of Turning Point in Wyoming, Coalesces is in Laramie. 00:39:17 Speaker 12: So yeah, how big is the chapter grown? 00:39:19 Speaker 13: In our weekly meetings we get anywhere from like like thirty to fifty people, So that's big. And then when like we hosted Charlie, we had twenty five percent of the student body sign up. 00:39:28 Speaker 7: Yeah I saw that. 00:39:29 Speaker 4: That was you were there at that market. Yeah, yeah, it was huge. 00:39:32 Speaker 13: It was like the biggest political event in the state of Wyoming since like Trump came and campaigned against Liz Cheney. 00:39:39 Speaker 4: It's the only reason trouble will come to Oh, we got it. 00:39:43 Speaker 7: You can't have Democrats representing Wyoming. 00:39:46 Speaker 4: You absolutely can't, you know. And it was interesting. I remember a couple of speeches that Charlie gave in Wyoming and he was like, you guys think you have it all good here right now, but like there are forces that will insinuate themselves, often with an arm next to their name, that will dismantle the good things that are going on in the state of Wyoming. 00:40:03 Speaker 13: Yeah, we have a huge rhino problem in the state of Wyoming. 00:40:06 Speaker 7: Our Supreme Court. 00:40:07 Speaker 13: Yeah, our Supreme Court just made abortion legal up until birth in the state of Wyoming. And you didn't think that happened on Wyoming. They like brutalized an amendment we passed to combat against Obamacare and said, hey, this means you can now abort your baby. 00:40:20 Speaker 12: And so it's crazy. 00:40:22 Speaker 13: Last election cycle, our Freedom Caucus took the majority in our House of Representatives, and there's going to be a huge rhino clap back. 00:40:28 Speaker 12: They're going to try to but I think we'll combat it interesting. 00:40:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it's a you know, a lot of people think this kind of stuff is limited to blue states or whatever. It's coming for you in a red state. And the fact that the student newspaper at the University of Wyoming, what's its whole population of Wyoming. 00:40:44 Speaker 12: Like five hundred and sixty thousand? 00:40:46 Speaker 4: Okay, it's mostly a rural state. In the popular Laramie. Yeah, Laramie is the largest city in Wyoming. 00:40:53 Speaker 13: Correct, No, so our capital Cheyenne is I think we're like we're in the top five though, Laramie. 00:40:57 Speaker 7: I think Cheyenne, Casper, Yeah. 00:41:00 Speaker 4: What's the biggest what's the population though? 00:41:01 Speaker 12: In that Laramie's like thirty six thousand people. 00:41:04 Speaker 4: Okay, So, okay, thirty six thousand people. But it's got this college edge, and you're getting somebody with the audacity to write that it's the duty to shoot conservatives. How that's not incitement directly, by the way, it is beyond me. Uh, you're the expert on the incitement rules. But it's a specific targeting of people, specific method of kich At least two. 00:41:27 Speaker 5: Out of three of specific time place manner. 00:41:29 Speaker 4: I can't believe that the newspaper would do that. All right, So let's talk about the issues facing young conservatives on campus. All right, what is the vibe in Wyoming young conservatives when it comes to Iran. 00:41:44 Speaker 13: I think that, you know, the kids in Laramie, the kids in Wyoming, I think they're kind of like the kids across the rest of the country. 00:41:50 Speaker 12: They're really questioning the war. Why are we there? 00:41:53 Speaker 13: Like even I'm in that spot, you know, I went on at turning point Israel trip and it's just kind of hard to win the debate on campus. And I think that's where, like a lot of turning points, students are is like, how do we win the debate? 00:42:06 Speaker 5: And it's I think it's, as we said, where we're a little concerned the administration. Even where there is an argument to be made, they haven't aggressively made it. We've seen these hype videos and stuff, but there was this extended build up and even in the days before I don't know that they were coming out and saying here is the reason Iran is a bigger threat than they were even last summer, let alone years ago. 00:42:28 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, And I think I think that's a good point. I mean, there's a case to be made, but we were critical in the early days that we didn't feel that the case had been successfully made. I think the ADMIN then came back. You saw this from Marco and some others explaining the rationale. But the truth is, you know, and I've been honest about this. You don't like to hear it. The kids don't like the iron war right. It could be the geopolitical national security right call, but it is a political loser. With gen Z, there's kind of no doubt about that. 00:42:58 Speaker 13: Yeah, And I think you guys are right. I just don't think that the case has been made with Iran. I think, like I've been alive for twenty three years. Our country's been at war in the Middle East all our lives, all my life, and we've just gotten nothing but trillions of dollars in debt, dead soldiers, soldiers that come back with PTSD, ruins, homes and families. 00:43:15 Speaker 12: We haven't gotten any oil. 00:43:17 Speaker 13: And I think, like my generation we came like politically conscious when Trump ran in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, and so like he lives in our head rent free talking about no more foreign wars and like kind of like how the old gen xers and boomers are with Reagan, like they still think, like, you know, he's the mantra of the day, and so that just lives in our head. And like when we're on campus and we're trying to justify, you know, the administration and defend you know, Trump, people poke holes in our ideology and they just point out the ideological consistencies. And like I was tabling two weeks ago talking about Iran and talking about like their nuclear program. But and these guys, these guys that are were right wing, We're saying, well, they're nuclear hedging, just like like South kore and Taiwan and Japan, they have a robust nuclear program to deter China, who's a nuclear threat. 00:44:06 Speaker 12: So it's just. 00:44:07 Speaker 4: Hard no, and I agree. I mean, listen, we can't speak for Charlie because he's not here and it would be wrong to do that. What I can say is that I watched the process unfold when it came to Midnight Hammer, and Charlie wanted to err on the side of avoiding foreign conflicts. There's no doubt he was anti interventionists mostly, but he also was willing to give President Trump the benefit of doubt in the sense that he has not gotten us in broilered foreign conflicts, forever wars, quagmires. I would not just describe what's going on in Iran as a quagmire. And ultimately, this is why we got President Trump elected is to make tough decisions in tough situations, and he makes tough calls. These are impossible decisions where you're between a rock and a hard place, where there isn't necessarily an easy answer, right, and so peace through strength only works, by the way, if you're willing to use that strength. Now, history and time will tell whether or not this was the right choice. But you've got to give President Trump some due that he has been the one president in our current modern American history that has not gotten us embroiled in a foreign conflict, in a forever war. So this is a foreign conflict, but he's been His track record thus far has been pretty good. We'll see how it works out on this, but I think that's a really fair point that it's just it's it does put you in a position where even guys like Charlie We're out there saying he's the peace president, selling President Trump as the peace president. And now it's more difficult to defend that, and that's a really really fair point. Okay, So how many times a week do you table? 00:45:38 Speaker 11: Oh? 00:45:38 Speaker 13: We table any time between one and four times a week. 00:45:41 Speaker 4: All right, one and four times a week. What are the main things that you're hearing from students when you're tabling? What are the biggest issues? Yeah? 00:45:48 Speaker 13: I think obviously we just talked about Iran a lot of free speech stuff. That's been a big topic on our campus for the last three years. University of Wyoming just adopted the Chicago Principles basically, so we have free speech protections on campus. Epstein obviously kind of like all the controversial stuff that you see on the Instagram reels. 00:46:06 Speaker 12: And x so. 00:46:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, uh so top issues? So what are when you when you're asked about Israel, for example? Is that mostly coming from a left wing faction or a right wing faction of both? Maybe a little bit of both. 00:46:20 Speaker 13: I would say it more comes from a right wing side. Our campus is definitely a majority conservative with the students on campus, and so we are actually like trying to, I don't know, bring more right wing kids, but they think that we're pretty moderate. Turning point on campus probably a little different from other campuses, So it's. 00:46:39 Speaker 4: All we're considered the radicals. 00:46:40 Speaker 12: Yeah. 00:46:41 Speaker 13: Yeah, so it's a little odd, but we have some good conversations at tabling. Epstein was a big one for a while, but that kind of died off. We have a lot of talk about like energy in our state. That's always a big thing, always being talked about because we're a big coal capital. We have a lot of like controversy over wind farms and stuff. 00:46:59 Speaker 4: So don't them What about immigration rhetoric do you ever run there? 00:47:02 Speaker 12: Oh yeah, that's a huge one. 00:47:04 Speaker 5: Say they need migrants to work as ranch hands or anything. 00:47:08 Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, uh no, not really. 00:47:12 Speaker 13: If there's anything that the right wing kids on campus think that we're all right on as immigration, I mean we're a bunch of moratoriumists. 00:47:19 Speaker 4: So yeah, fair enough. When you guys have your meetings, do you see are other meetings divided? Do you do you feel like there's factions? 00:47:27 Speaker 12: Oh yeah, there's there's huge factions. 00:47:29 Speaker 13: We've been doing like this like cultural like debate series where we talked about like feminism and like the simpery that's present among young men and that's super controversion. Yeah, so like talking about like feminism there's kind of like this weird thing, you know among conservatives, and like we have this trad LARPing culture thing going on where everybody wants to make like sour dough bread and have a little farmhouse and like yeah, yeah, and I like I think that's a great thing, but how much is that real? And like I don't remember who's but I made this proposition that was like, well, we want these like tradwives and stuff, and these young women want to be tradwives, but when it comes down to it, they're kind of like just crypto feminists because they want their husbands to have all the responsibility but no authority in the household. 00:48:15 Speaker 12: Or over the family. 00:48:16 Speaker 13: So it's just very odd and trying to like kind of poke holes in the thinking, make people think and ask questions about what they believe. And then like the young men they're just like simps, like they just and we got to get rid of that. 00:48:25 Speaker 4: We need men to be leaders, so I mean completely, yeah, men need to be the leader of the household. You need to get your kids and your wife to church, and you need to be the bread winner. You know. This is by the way, I've said this before. I'm still in the line from somebody else. But men are like trucks. They will be squirrely all over the road. If there's not a load on them, and you put the load in the back of the bed, they'll drive straight as an arrow. So you need men. You have strong shoulders for a reason. You need to be loaded up with responsibility. And that's a good thing. You're gonna have a life of purpose and a meaning and a productivity and so yeah, but there is this, there is this there's this cultural element that says, because of feminism, because women expect there's a sense at least that a lot of women expect all all the money, all the provision without any of the authority, that they're just opting out of this whole vibe. So what's what's the vibe on marriage on campus? You know? 00:49:22 Speaker 13: I think that's probably one of the more controversial things. Like in my in my chapters, like the a lot of the young men question whether it's worth it, and then the young women they expect, like their men in a weird way, to be simps and so, and that's where there's a lot of controversy. 00:49:37 Speaker 12: And that's where you kind of see the factions. A lot of the young women. 00:49:41 Speaker 13: Expect they're just like like their men will worship them, and it's. 00:49:44 Speaker 12: Kind of weird. 00:49:44 Speaker 4: What just define simps for our audiences over over? 00:49:48 Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, for the the boomers out there, basically some things just like uh uh, kind of like just worshiping and like you revolve around your girlfriend or your wife, you kind of cater to them always, not a lot of you have all this responsibility and you just kind of do whatever they say, and it's not about like being the. 00:50:07 Speaker 12: Rock of your relationship and being centered. 00:50:09 Speaker 4: In croudt Yeah, I mean, listen, this is a huge problem, by the way, for people at home that maybe aren't internalizing this, but the divide between young men and young women about expectations when it comes to a relationship is actually a huge cultural problem, and we got to get to the root of it because women need to start celebrating masculine men, strong men, men that can lead, men that can be productive fathers and husbands and entrepreneurs. And there is an expectation that's placed on young men like yourself, that it's sort of all about the boss babe. We've got to like put the woman on the pedestal, treat her like a princess expect nothing out of her. I think that's really really unhealthy. And I don't I'm not saying all women believe this, but there is enough of them where it becomes a I guess, like a cultural phenomena, right, And that's kind of what you're feeling as a young men. 00:51:02 Speaker 12: Right, yeah. 00:51:03 Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, like the young men, they a lot of them. And if you go to like Amfest and SaaS, we talk about it, like these young men they get involved in the faith and they end up going to like really old forms of Christianity like Catholicism. 00:51:15 Speaker 12: Orthodox or that's a weird one. 00:51:17 Speaker 4: I don't get theology. 00:51:18 Speaker 13: Yeah, Like I became Presbyterian because of it. So yeah yeah. 00:51:22 Speaker 4: So uh do you see a lot of friction between the sexes on campus? Oh yeah, really even. 00:51:28 Speaker 12: Conservatives, even conservatives. 00:51:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're saying even conservative women are not they don't understand kind of what a man is or a masculine man is. They want you to be simps too. 00:51:40 Speaker 13: Yeah, And I think that's just kind of when you look at these cultural phenomenons, is that usually the men kind of start somewhere and it takes a little bit for the young women to get there too. And I think it mostly comes of just both sides not understanding each other. Is that these young men have become way more right wing away Christian really fast over the last five years, and so I just think there's a little bit of a divide, and I think it'll. 00:51:59 Speaker 5: Ca I think women like biologically, they do feel attraction to assertive men and confident men, like men on a mission, and so you have to hope that if men are shifting that direction, as you say, that they'll win over women in their way. 00:52:17 Speaker 7: And Charlie was a big believer. 00:52:18 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's what I think too. 00:52:20 Speaker 4: I think if men lead, women will follow. That's a controversial thing to say in today's age, but it shouldn't be. That's the way that God designed men to be leaders, men to be strong. Women need to celebrate that and not fight it. And I think you're totally right, Like there's I don't care what a woman says. Women are drawn to strong men. They do not want beta males. 00:52:41 Speaker 5: Also, I would just like to say our viewers like the fact that we explained what a symph was. 00:52:45 Speaker 7: Thank you. I am a boomer, I did not know what that was. 00:52:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, listen Gabe. I think you're doing great work. Everybody says it. University of Wyoming thriving under your leadership. This is your senior year though, right. 00:52:57 Speaker 12: I'm actually a first year last dudent. 00:52:59 Speaker 4: Now how's that work? You're gonna keep leading the chapter or. 00:53:02 Speaker 12: Yeah, I ain't giving it up? 00:53:03 Speaker 4: So are you developing leaders underneath you? 00:53:07 Speaker 13: Yeah, take a lot of freshmen this year because of everything that's happened. 00:53:10 Speaker 12: So yeah, it'll be good. 00:53:11 Speaker 4: All right, well, good, Well, we got to get turning point back out to Wyoming. That seems like a fertile ground. We gotta keep wyoming deep deep deep deep red. Yes, well, Gabe's saying, glad you could make it. It's been a pleasure, and apparently you're a fan favorite, so good job. 00:53:26 Speaker 12: Yeah, thanks for having me, guys. 00:53:29 Speaker 4: Hi folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about y REFI for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments, Maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Why Refi will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America and we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much they owe. Y Refi can help. Just go to y refi dot com. That's the letter why then refi dot com and remember y Refi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to yrefi dot com and tell them your friend Andrews sent you. Man. You guys loved Gabe Saint. People loved our chapter President. 00:54:34 Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's one of the reasons people love Charlie so much. 00:54:36 Speaker 5: They like to see a young person with good conservative can articulate. 00:54:40 Speaker 4: I know, but we got to fix this whole male female divide. Women. You gotta understand that men will be men and that's a good thing. Stop fighting them anyways. 00:54:50 Speaker 7: Dudes have done amazing things. 00:54:51 Speaker 4: Dudes have done amazing things, and so of women. It's about having proper balance between the masculine and the feminine. All right, without further Alex Marlow, editor chief of Breitbart News, joins us now also host to The Alex Marlow Show. Welcome, my friend. It's good to have you. It's in times like these that we need our trusted voices to rally around and make sense of the world. But I got kind of a fun one for you. I so this is this is stranger than fiction. Actually it's not. It's completely predictable for California. The University of Southern California as abruptly canceled the California gubernatorial debate just hours before it was set to air Monday. Why because all six qualifying candidates were white. Alex, you know California. Well, I just I couldn't RESI I mean, it's not like front page news, but it's really important just to like get into the psyche of the left and this. Are you surprised? 00:55:47 Speaker 14: I have a feeling I'm actually surprised all the top candidates are white. I mean, I say, this state, it feels like there's not that many white people. 00:55:53 Speaker 3: After I know, you. 00:55:56 Speaker 4: Go walk around California, you kind of go where did all the white people go. 00:56:00 Speaker 3: We're all the whites to go. 00:56:01 Speaker 4: No. 00:56:01 Speaker 14: I was just commenting on how it seems like a lot of the people who are part of the Golden Age of California have kind of left the state for anywhere. 00:56:10 Speaker 3: It's a Lefties. 00:56:11 Speaker 14: Sometimes leave and go to Canada, places like that, and then righty's we go to Florida, we go to Texas, we go to Arizona, we got to places like that. So yeah, it's actually very shocking that this is the case. But it also illuminates on a more serious cultural level, the fact that the left has for years now, probably we're solid decade. 00:56:30 Speaker 3: You can maybe trace. 00:56:31 Speaker 14: This to the first time Donald Trump was elected in twenty sixteen to when this way they had that psychological break. They have no longer cared about standards at all. They don't care about excellence, they don't care about a track record. They care about representation and an identity. So if you don't have one of those boxes to check, if you don't have brown skin or your LGBTQ, three spirit, four spirit, furry, whatever it is that you are, or you don't have some sort of a strange here it is that you can call upon, then you should not be in a position of power in this country. This is how people look at things. And it's not just in places like government, is places like book publishing where they have these sensitivity readers now that are reading books to make sure that the representation is done in the proper way. It's peak wokeness. We are not past the woke moment. We are still in it in blue parts of the country. And this is a very clear example of this. And it's just great to watch the progressives eat themselves alive. 00:57:27 Speaker 12: Though. 00:57:27 Speaker 4: I gotta admit so I have a theory that California would be totally on board with mass deportations if it was white people. This is essentially this is essentially what their policies are designed to do. By the way, I. 00:57:43 Speaker 5: Mean, it's just like every time they get actually very angry anytime a white person would be a refugee from the other country, like they'll move, They'll move, Heaven Earth. It's just one hundred percent obvious in everything they do. They just they don't like white people. 00:57:56 Speaker 4: So we have to play a clip from Charlie asking the question about has any institution been better off because of dei Nott twenty. 00:58:04 Speaker 2: Four you're thinking that DEI is versus excellence. 00:58:07 Speaker 7: I think diis four excellent. 00:58:09 Speaker 1: Show me one institution that got better the more embraced EI. 00:58:12 Speaker 5: What one institution that got better than embraced the. 00:58:14 Speaker 1: EI I got smarter, more competitive, leaner, more productive, and that was better than it was ten years ago. Are are our airports more efficient? Are we landing planes better? Are our airlines better? Is our government better? Is our schools better? Is our universities better? 00:58:27 Speaker 9: Are? 00:58:27 Speaker 1: I mean, show me one example. Is our public health authorities better? Show me one institution that's embraced DEI that has become better and more excellent than it was twenty years ago. It doesn't exist. DEI will destroy an institution from within. 00:58:38 Speaker 4: It's almost like he's talking specifically about California there. And by the way, that's yeah, I was at that event. That was it. Uc River said, uh so, I remember that. 00:58:47 Speaker 14: I hate to be dark about it, but that's why they killed them. I mean, they're just just so devastating. It's the you cannot come back from that argument and that it just gives you chills. There's strikes fear of God and the people on the left because they can't defend that argument. 00:59:00 Speaker 3: Defense of that argument would. 00:59:01 Speaker 14: Be that dei is the end in and of itself, that having better representation is the goal. Is not excellence, is not progress, is not making us all happier or more powerful or wealthier or bigger leaders on the world stage. No, the goal is to have more representation. That's how the left looks at things. That is the goal in and of itself, and that is just so far away from anything our founders stood for. Any of you who abide by Jujeo Christram principles, there's nothing like that that you could draw off of. And people like you and me, guys like people with conservative values. This is so far afield for us. But that's how they think in the city in this state. 00:59:38 Speaker 4: Well, and compare and contrast that. Now, what's going on in Texas with the Democrat candidate for Senate, James tall Rico, who's apologized for being white, He's apologized for you know, the sin, and he's so in touch with his privilege, right, and now he's got this whole like vegan scandal, which is hilarious. But it's interesting, sting that you have a canceled debate in California because everybody's white, whereas in Texas they're very excited that James tall Rico's white. This is why James Colbert got behind him and didn't want to didn't want to platform Crocket right, She's she was not. She didn't, she was not out of central casting for a state like Texas, they don't care what color you are. They care that you're the right color for the right context. That's what James tall Rico proves. 01:00:28 Speaker 14: Yeah, they cast James tall Rico and they found a guy who claims he's a Christian who speaks confidently about the Bible. Apparently knows nothing about it, but he does speak about it with confidence. He went to the Lego store and he got one of those giant hair pieces and he popped it onto his head. I have no idea how he got hair like that. It does look like a Lego piece, am I right? 01:00:46 Speaker 3: Guys? I mean that's what it looks like. 01:00:48 Speaker 14: And so he's he's out there probably he says, he says he's not gonna eat barbecue in Texas. It's like I dream in the middle of the night, I wish I was in Tech eating Texas barbecue. And he's there and he's like against it like, no, no Texas Barbecue for me. This is going to get me elected. It's all because it is diversity. Because that is a diversity representation of the left in the state of Texas. You wouldn't see a guy like that representing a left wing position, and they use that to get attention, to get donor dollars, and at this point has been kind of effective. 01:01:22 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, it's going to be interesting too. And I keep I keep looking for updates from that race because remember President Trump, with the on the on the Republican side of the aisle, said he was going to endorse Yeah, and he held back because I think he was kind of looking for a deal on the Save America Act to bring the philibus or whatever. But you know, we've endorsed Ken Paxton on this side. The dig against Ken is that he can't win a statewide race in a general and a competitive race. The guy's done it three times, by the way. Last time it was I think he won by ten points. Yeah, it sounded looked like you were about to chime in, Alex still let me. 01:01:56 Speaker 10: Yeah. 01:01:56 Speaker 14: Yeah, I love Ken Paxton and I want to speak to this because this has been so heartening to me, and it was one of the few. There's a lot of discouraging things in the news right now, but we've always loved Ken Paxton at Breitbart. 01:02:07 Speaker 3: He's a true fighter. 01:02:08 Speaker 14: He's good on immigration, guns, all the usual stuff, but he's even great on big tech, keeping one of the leaders fighting against the Silicon Valley masters of the universe, making sure that they play fairly as they control so much of our information in this country and the flow of information, and so he really is a leader. And I thought that maybe Trump was going to endorse Cornan because he thought Cornyn was a better general election candidate. 01:02:29 Speaker 3: But Trump's probably looking at it. 01:02:30 Speaker 14: He's seeing that this is a off your election, that there's a lot of people in the conservative movement who are not super fired up at the moment, and he sees a Ken Paxton who's going to motivate base voters more. Maybe now he's seeing that as a safer bet in a midterm election. 01:02:46 Speaker 3: And I love that. 01:02:47 Speaker 14: Because that gives us a chance here getting Ken Paxton in, who would be a terrific senator if he wins. 01:02:52 Speaker 4: Well, exactly, and I mean, you cannot back the guys that have been the thorn in your side for years. I mean, there's just no doubt about it. John Cornan does not does not really like President meanrum. 01:03:02 Speaker 5: I remember John Cornyan was a known saboteur of President Trump's agenda back in twenty seventeen when he first took office. I remember that because at Fox we were getting leaks from his staff about how bad it was way back then. And we've talked about needing to modernize the Republican Party, and you know, people always say like, how will the Senate get better? And it's just going to happen as all these old guard guys who have never liked the changes since twenty fifteen, they have to be transitioned out. And if we let Cornyan again, Okay, he's still around into the twenty thirties, Yeah, I still have this guy representing Texas who everyone knows wants amnesty and wants endless interventionism. 01:03:42 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I mean we got rid of Romney, but then you get Curtis. That was kind of like a wash, and so you got to get Nate Morris in Kentucky. You gotta get Paxton in Texas. There's a couple of races like that where you can get these huge upgrades. But here, by the way, the team pulled one of these tower ego videos that are just too obnoxious not to play at least one. It's not twenty nine for me. 01:04:06 Speaker 1: Prophetic voices like Jesus have helped me reckon with my own whiteness, my own masculinity, my own. 01:04:12 Speaker 2: Certainty, my own ego. 01:04:15 Speaker 1: It's a never ending process, and it's a painful process. 01:04:19 Speaker 4: I'm sure it was really painful for James tall Rico to reckon with his own masculinity. And by the way, the way he talks about Jesus a prophetic voice, No, Jesus is your like God, he's your lord like It just felt. I don't know that part actually bothers me. You know, we spend a lot of time on this show talking about culture, about why strong families matter, why values matter, why faith matters. But here's something practical. 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I want to focus on the ground portion of this, the ground troops. Pentagon chiefs ordered around two thousand paratroopers from the eighty second Airborne Division to the Middle East last night, to joined some forty five hundred marines already en route to the region. Now, Alex, you know President Trump has not used ground forces really in either Trump one point zero or two point zero. This would be a massive new wrinkle in the entire calculus of Iran. What do you make of this? What are you hearing in your reporting? And then let's talk about the political ramifications. 01:06:58 Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm trying to connect some here, and I don't have any I think new herd and fast insight to add. 01:07:05 Speaker 3: But a couple of things that are. 01:07:06 Speaker 14: Important Trump's peace plan. 01:07:08 Speaker 3: That he put out. 01:07:09 Speaker 14: I just walked through this on the latest episode the Alex Marlow Show. 01:07:12 Speaker 3: Should be out in a few minutes. 01:07:14 Speaker 14: I go through all the points that Trump has, they're all essentially repeats of what he put out last year. He's just re establishing to a little tougher degree, the points he laid out in a letter to Iran a year ago where he said, no more in nuclear enrichment to weapons grade, no more ballistic missile, long range ballistic missile development, and you can't fun teer proxies. And they did all three of those things, and he laid it out. That's basically what he's establishing again is you can't do this stuff. And they're a little tougher than the last time, but it's basically the same thing. And in exchange, you're gonna get to do commerce, We're gonna have sanctions released, You're gonna be able to do business with the rest of the civilized world, and that will be our reward to you, so long as we can keep an eye on those three things. Totally reasonable and legitimate and consistent with what Trump has done. And Iron just says, of course, no deal, which is not a shock to me at all. They feel like they are tough negotiators. They're shrewd negotiators. I know that it takes a long time to negotiate with iron that they have all sorts of layers of bureaucracy. We don't even know who's leading the country. It could be the stupid gay cardboard cutout. We don't know as that someone else. No one really knows at this point, and so it's tough to know exactly where they're at. But they're gonna play hardball. That doesn't strike me as a surprise. With regards to the ground invasion. Here's what I'm nervous about, just like you guys, I feel like that this is politically ridiculously risky for Trump to do this, and if nothing short of a devastating declarative definitive victory in short order would justify such a thing, and that's really hard to pull off. 01:08:44 Speaker 3: And in the meantime, more members. 01:08:45 Speaker 14: Of the coalition could be slipping, and we're seeing the war is not particularly popular, not popular with anyone who doesn't support Trump, and even a handful people who do support Trump don't like the war. There's a big ap pull out that we got up a bright part news today showing exactly that, which is a significant thing. 01:09:01 Speaker 3: And he's got to be cautious of this. 01:09:03 Speaker 14: And I'll tell you where Trump in the past has built up troops, he ends up using them. He built up all those ships near Venezuela, then he got Maduro, he built up all those ships in the Gulf, and then he got Kamane. And now if he's building up ground truths, don't doubt him. He's clearly willing to use them. If he's building them up. 01:09:20 Speaker 4: Yeah. The quote from a Trump aid which they told Axios, Trump has a hand open for a deal and the other is a fist waiting to punch you in the expletive face. So I think, I mean, listen, you know Trump, Yeah, I mean it kind of reminds you of Marco Rubio's quote. Right, if you don't know, now you know. And I think Trump again, I agree with you. If he's building up a force, he's probably gonna be very prepared to use it. And he said there is no line he's not willing to cross in order to get the mission achieved. Tell us more about the ap pole, because I think that's important for the audience to understand. How is this war polling with the base? 01:10:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so the. 01:10:08 Speaker 14: Deep concern with voters that the Americans are just not feeling the military involvement. Overall, most Americans are saying the military action against Iran has gone too far already, and that's pre any boots on the ground. 01:10:24 Speaker 4: Now. 01:10:24 Speaker 14: The AP is a vested interest in Trump failing, but in general is slightly. 01:10:28 Speaker 3: More responsible than average. 01:10:30 Speaker 14: But this is logical to anyone who's paying attention, because anyone who does not like Trump will never support any sort of military involvement with him. And as you guys know full well, a lot of people in the new members of the MAGA coalition, people who are part of the more isolationist wing of the MAGA movement. 01:10:48 Speaker 3: They're not gonna like this either. 01:10:50 Speaker 14: So he's really competing for a pretty small swath of the pie in terms of convincing the public this is a good thing and could it lead to a long standing piece if Trump a draws the inside straight. 01:11:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it could, and I trust him in a lot of ways. 01:11:03 Speaker 14: But just noting that this is not going over dal back right at home. 01:11:08 Speaker 3: This is a reality. 01:11:10 Speaker 4: Well, we had a chapter president from University of Wyoming on his name's Gabe Saint. He said that one of the issues with the Iran war for him and his students when they table on campus. Is it's ideologically seems inconsistent with the pitch of President Trump as the peace president. Right, so they are at a disadvantage to defend it. Final minute or so here, Alex, how would you encourage our students to defend what's happening right now as best as you could. 01:11:39 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:11:39 Speaker 14: The first thing is that nuclear war is a legitimate threat, and people who have dismissed that are just inaccurate. And all the government has suggested that iron was enriching too much, and that's reality. And Trump really does not want to be a wartime president. He wants to be a peace president. He's earned a lot of trust in this regard and over his first five plus. 01:11:57 Speaker 3: Years in his administration. 01:11:58 Speaker 14: He is watching the pole, He's watching the markets. He wants to wrap this thing up and get us back to building and prospering. He thinks the key to winning over Iran, I believe, is to bring them into the fold economically. He wants to compel them to do that. He's clearly willing to show a force to do that. He's done this with Saudi Arabia, uae Qatar. He intends to do this with Iran. Around just a tougher foe in this regard. 01:12:20 Speaker 4: I think that's well said, and I want to clip that up and make sure our students have it because I do I believe that that is the best defense right now that President Trump is very oh clear eyed and open to this getting wrapped up very very quickly. He understands the political dynamics, the economic dynamics, and he wants to nation build here at home, and I think he sees Iran as a very strategic node in a broader plan economically for the United States. We got to pray it works out, and hopefully it doesn't have to be an inside straight out. It's Alex Marlow, editor in chief of Breitbart News, hosts the Alex Marler Show. We'll see you soon. 01:12:54 Speaker 3: Thanks guys. 01:12:58 Speaker 14: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charlikirk dot com.