One Trump Win After Another + Hasan Piker Polling

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Because if you just log on, you're going to get all this doomerism. You're going to get, honestly, a lot of propaganda and a lot of negativity. There is really good news out there, and it's starting to, I would say, pierce the veil. It's starting to get through, and we're going to do our part to make sure everybody knows about it. So Oren McIntyre actually did a show yesterday called President Trump is Quietly Stacking Wins, and he joins us now. Oren, welcome. You're columnist with The Blaze, host of The Oren McIntyre Show, and a great thinker. Why did you choose to do a show about that and inspire us to do a show leading with you doing a show about it? 00:02:25 Speaker 4: And what are the wins, of course? 00:02:27 Speaker 5: Well, I think it's very obvious that there have been some missteps by the administration, and I have not been quiet about. 00:02:33 Speaker 2: Those, including the Iran war. 00:02:35 Speaker 5: But at the same time, it's critical that we understand that the Trump administration is still doing the best job of any Republican administration we've ever seen. And this is why I despite my disagreements on that foreign policy issue, I continue to support the president because when we see these type of victories, we need to understand that there's more going on than just the foreign policy. And we have seen some huge ones lately. The Trump administration has made huge wins across the board from immigration to court rulings to even things that I care deeply about as a former teacher, like the education system. And so I think it was time to pull these headlines together. It's been a rough patch for the administration in some areas, but the places where they're winning are very important and we shouldn't brush those aside just because we don't like everything that's going on. 00:03:21 Speaker 2: Well, so here's just a list that I have in my head. All right. There have been, you'll see different numbers, but I've actually got sources within the DHS. There's been 1.5 million forcible removals, over 3 million self-deportations, right? Or altogether net migration, we'll say. 00:03:39 Speaker 6: Right. 00:03:40 Speaker 2: But it's actually probably about two million self deportations, one point five self deport or forcible deportation. That's huge for me. A lot of news on the H-1B front, putting fees on H-1B. Yes, that'll be challenged by the courts. But that's huge. Sign the Lake and Riley Act. We've got we you know that we have the lowest murder rate like per capita since 1900. People still don't talk about that stuff. 00:04:02 Speaker 4: It kind of quietly happened overnight. Overdose deaths are down about 50 percent. 00:04:05 Speaker 2: Overdose deaths are down. You just mentioned a stat. Ice goes into Virginia. Rents are now dropping in Virginia. Imagine that. Same thing we saw happen in areas of Texas. So those are some of the things that– those are my top lines. But I could go on. There's literally dozens of them. What are your, I don't know, top four or five wins that– and probably recent wins that you think are worth highlighting for the audience? 00:04:30 Speaker 5: Well, like you said, the H-1B one is huge. It's absolutely critical. And I'm also glad that the vice president has focused on these as solutions to the affordability problem. A lot of people in mainstream conservative outlets decided to decry the idea that there is any issue with affordability. 00:04:49 Speaker 2: Instead, J.D. 00:04:50 Speaker 5: Vance turned around and said, obviously, there is one. And one of the ways we're going to fix this is through fixing the H-1B program, making sure that we are securing jobs for American citizens. Another huge one is that the administration is voiding over 200,000 asylum visas, which is huge. 00:05:07 Speaker 2: We know a lot of those are fake. 00:05:09 Speaker 5: And so we're going to see 200,000 of those visas voided. We're seeing a suspension. And this is my favorite one, probably, because it's the correct use of bureaucratic power. We saw a complete suspension of all visa interviews for immigration into the United States. Because the court said, well, you can't just narrow it down to like these 70 countries that you don't want there. And so we said, OK, well, then I guess we need to retrain all of our staff and we just can't do any of these interviews. 00:05:36 Speaker 2: What a shame. What can you do? Right. 00:05:39 Speaker 5: And this is the procedural manipulation that the left is so good at that locks and wins. without them needing to pass a single law or anything like that. Instead, now we are doing it. We are using the power of the deep state for good. This is exactly the kind of thing that you want to see happen. We also saw a massive win when it comes to a court ruling that just said from the Supreme Court that you can no longer block this executive order from Donald Trump when it comes to elections. And that order is basically going to be an end run around the blocking of the SAVE Act. You're going to have a mandatory list that goes out to all of the states of the people who are legally allowed to vote there. 00:06:16 Speaker 7: And then the U.S. 00:06:17 Speaker 5: Postal Service is going to refuse to deliver mail-in ballots to anyone who is not on that list. 00:06:22 Speaker 2: It's so creative. So we're using the. 00:06:24 Speaker 5: Executive power over the postal service to do something we couldn't do through Congress. That is a beautiful move. And these are exactly the kinds of manipulations of bureaucracy, the use of executive power that the left thrives on, that we always fall down on. And so it's great to see the Trump administration deploy these when we can't get the other wins in the courts or in the legislature. 00:06:46 Speaker 2: You know, here's another one that, and I love your examples, and then Blake, we'll go to you. People don't realize that the federal employment is at the lowest level since 1966. They have fired a bunch of the bureaucracy. Is there still more to cut? Of course. This stuff doesn't happen overnight, though. We're at the lowest level since 1966. That's remarkable. 00:07:08 Speaker 4: That's remarkable. 00:07:09 Speaker 8: I mean, ending temporary protected status, I think, is another one that'll be really underrated. That was not just people who had migrated to the U.S. illegally, but it was people here illegally who, because of various maneuvers exploited by Obama and Biden and the courts, they had work authorizations here. And suddenly, that's a million people whose work authorizations have been taken away. I think those will be people... who will be under a lot of economic pressure to self-deport. And that's going to be, I mean, you can look at the numbers. That's 335,000 people from Haiti. 00:07:37 Speaker 4: There's two different numbers, about like 500,000 people from Venezuela, 8,000 from Afghanistan. 00:07:40 Speaker 2: 7,000 from Nepal. 00:07:41 Speaker 8: 3000 from Yemen, like all of these numbers racking up. And I love what you said about learning to use the mechanisms of call it the deep state, the bureaucracy towards our own end. 00:07:59 Speaker 2: That was, that was Charlie's main thing. We would highlight that so often. 00:08:02 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:08:03 Speaker 2: Use power. 00:08:03 Speaker 4: That was in right wing revolution. 00:08:05 Speaker 8: And we talked about that with, uh, for example, the border, like how did open borders happen? It wasn't that Biden said we have open borders now. It was, uh, all of the left-wing NGOs and lawyers breaking the system apart. That, oh, well, when you arrive at the border, you have the right to petition for asylum. And, you know, if you say, I'm persecuted for being gay, or I suffer domestic violence, or I fear gang violence in my home country, well, we have to at least give you a hearing. Oh, our courts are so backlogged. Here's your hearing date four years in the future. And if you blow that off, Well, I mean, we don't think people who just blew off a hearing, that's a nonviolent offense. They're not a priority for enforcement. You see each of these parts that work out to if you get to the U.S., you'll never be deported. Now we've learned to find the same vulnerabilities to help us that actually we don't need to do these interviews. We don't need to grant these visas. We actually can impose a fee for you to apply for this. 00:08:59 Speaker 2: And you know what? 00:08:59 Speaker 4: We're going to set it prohibitively high. Thank you. 00:09:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I'm going to name one more accomplishment that I really love because I think we don't remember the wins. We got rid of USAID. That was huge. You know, it had a bigger budget than the CIA and the State Department combined. And we got rid of it. And I actually love this one because Blake, I thought Blake was going to tell me that it's nonsense. Lo and behold, seven socialist Latin American governments lost reelection after we abolished USAID. 00:09:30 Speaker 4: I don't know if they're linked, but I want them to be. 00:09:32 Speaker 2: But I want them to be, too. So that's a fun one. Listen, I think what you said is apt, Oren, that you've been critical of. I think we've all– that's going to happen with a coalition this large and a country this large. There's going to be some people that feel like their needs, wants, desires are not getting served. And then there's going to be missteps. There's a lot going on. But there's been so much– I think this is the standout line for me, Oren. You said this is the most effective Republican administration. in your lifetime. And I think that's really accurate, actually. We haven't talked about DEI. We haven't talked about women's sports and how they've been working. And the NCAA actually changed their rules after the Trump administration had some executive orders on the matter. So there's been tons and tons of wins. Is there something that stands out for you that we haven't talked about yet? 00:10:26 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:10:26 Speaker 5: So here's one that if you're not familiar with the education system, you're not going to understand. But trust me, as a former teacher, this is a huge one. 00:10:33 Speaker 2: So the Department of. 00:10:34 Speaker 5: Education has recently issued guidance to ignore what Barack Obama set in place when it come to racial balancing education. in discipline in education. So for those who don't know, there is functionally affirmative action for suspending students in schools. I worked in a majority minority school when I was teaching. And in that school, we basically were not allowed to suspend any students because literally all of our students were minorities and anyone we suspended would add to the district's total and therefore make them look bad. in the statistics. This was disaster in the school. There was no discipline. We ended up with multiple prison riot style fights. I had one principal knocked out and sent to the hospital because they tried to stop a fight in the lunchroom. Eventually a number of the videos of these fights ended up on the internet. And that is the only way we were allowed to suspend students again. And even though that worked great and we were actually able to educate kids again and we had a safe school again, Eventually, the numbers started stacking up. Too many black students were being suspended. They took that away and we went right back to where we were. The Trump administration getting rid of this is huge. It makes schools safer. It makes your kids more likely to get good educations. It boosts morale. This is one of those little tweaks that goes under the radar, but makes a big difference across the country in the lives of average people. 00:11:54 Speaker 4: That's so true. 00:11:55 Speaker 8: I mean, I remember I wrote about education at the Daily Caller and I remember this. 00:11:59 Speaker 4: There was a really memorable policy. 00:12:01 Speaker 7: St. 00:12:01 Speaker 8: Paul, of course, it was Minnesota where they made the rule. It was overtly racially discriminatory that if you wanted to suspend an Asian or white kid, you could just do it as a teacher or principal. I think it was as a principal. And if you wanted to suspend a kid of a different race, you had to appeal all the way up to the superintendent. So just a straight up. racial hierarchy of who got punished so white privilege exactly as they might call it and then as a result i mean unsurprisingly you had mayhem in entire schools and everything would break down and that's such an underrated example or and i'm glad you brought it up of these small ways life is getting better and i'm sad the administration doesn't brag about these things more your kids school is allowed to have discipline again. 00:12:43 Speaker 2: Yeah so my favorite one that we haven't mentioned yet well i have two That is the nationwide school choice portion of the one big beautiful bill. I hate the teachers unions. I think they are an absolute parasite on this country. It's a super PAC for Democrats. They screwed up our public school systems. And the more that we can get student by student out of the public school systems, the less dollars are going to be allotted to failing public schools. And they're going to get better private school education, Christian education, and we're going to starve that beast of a lot of funding. And so the more money we can take out of the public schools, the better, in my opinion. We had a huge win, by the way, in the state of Arizona on that recently, a ballot initiative that was trying to get rid of our best in class, best in the nation school choice program. Didn't reach the threshold on signatures. It's not going to be on the ballot. We get our great school choice here. All right. The second one, though, was also in the big, beautiful bill, which was the accelerated amortization of business investment. So if you're a restaurant and you want to redo the kitchen, You can write off 100 percent of that in the first year. So apparently, according to Scott Besson, we have the most industrial investment in this country that we've had in basically over two decades. So people are money is being invested. That creates construction jobs. That creates supply chain jobs up and down the supply chain, whether it's a dishwasher or whatever factory. We have record number of new factories being built. And a lot of that is because of the one big, beautiful bill and some of the tax tweaks that were made in that. Those are mine. Blake, am I missing one that you're really hot on? Because there's a lot. You always love the merit stuff. 00:14:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I just love that we four. 00:14:23 Speaker 8: decades had, through Republican and through Democrat, were mindlessly accepting stuff from one of our most left-wing administrations, Lyndon Johnson. A lot of that stuff was expanded by Nixon. We had DEI stuff was expanded and entrenched by Republican presidents, by Nixon, by H.W., by George W. Bush, even a bit by Reagan, some of it even in Trump's first term. And now we figured it out and we're saying these executive orders that are making us ruin our country by getting rid of merit, by getting rid of standards, they're going away. I mean, I think we're trying to overturn Jimmy Carter's maneuver where he tried to basically, he got rid of the federal hiring exam, essentially, because that was racist. We can finally hire competent people in the federal government. Our government used to be famously effective and competent. 00:15:12 Speaker 2: By the way, 94% of federal employees were working from home under Joe Biden. That is no longer the case. We had a come back to work order. Oren, I'm going to put you on the spot in our final minute here. President Trump said he's going to come out with his position on flock cameras. Also, the big debate on data centers. Where are you at on both of those? I know it's a minute and that's a big lift, but where are you at? 00:15:32 Speaker 5: Data centers are obviously going to exist. I think that if the tech industry wants to see data centers be put up, I think Mike Cernovich is correct about this. They need to start Acting graciously to the populations where they're dropping these data centers, build a high school, build a hospital, you know, put some patronage out there and you will win people over on this issue. Show people that there is something they get out of data centers going in and not just something that gets imposed on them. On flock cameras, I have a very different outlook. I look at the CCTV camera network in Great Britain. That camera network did nothing to capture all of the rape gangs there. It was never used to stop those. It was used to stop the people who protested those rape gangs. I don't understand why a network of cameras in the United States would do anything different. 00:16:18 Speaker 2: I think ICE should run them. And once we get rid of 10 million illegals with their help, then we can get rid of them. 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They take control of your board. And if it works well, you end up getting bigger and you end up getting sold and you make a lot of money and America's better as a result. Unfortunately, this company, which was initially founded by a total left-wing midwit, has been taken over by a bunch of anti-American looney tunes, many of them foreigners. And a lot of them have been letting their freak flags fly on social, trashing America, trashing flyover countries, saying how superior everyone else is to us. And there's a real irony in this because... If America was as bad as they say, if flyover country was as awful as they say, and all these other countries and cultures were so much superior, they wouldn't need to be here. This stuff would exist in India or China or wherever you have it. Yet it happens here. They come here. They trash us. They loot us. And then they act like we're somehow weird for noticing what they're up to. And the craziest thing to me is you had one of the general partners at Y Combinator, I think Ankit Gupta is his name, who was going in and trashing the head of the Federal Trade Commission, the co-chair of the White House Fraud Task Force. And it kind of just illuminated how clueless these people are. They pitch themselves as elite human capital. but they actually end up being absolute morons. And all I'm asking, maybe just give us a little thanks for allowing you in our country and allowing you to rest under the shade of American exceptionalism and glory. instead of just trashing us at every opportunity you get. 00:19:53 Speaker 2: So here's this. This is one of the examples people are throwing out there. We had Andrew Ferguson's tweet up there where he's saying, well, hey, maybe Y Combinator is just a front for far left activists to destroy our country. So Hunter Weiss put up this tweet, and he highlighted two companies that I think are worth checking out. It says YC, Y Combinator, has Visa Factories. The first one he highlights is Gale, fast and data-driven immigration platform. Okay, so what is this? Gale is an immigration tech platform that makes immigration simple for U.S. companies. 00:20:33 Speaker 9: Oh, interesting. 00:20:34 Speaker 2: Interesting. We've simplified the visa application process, streamlined compliance, and can integrate with HR systems, saving teams time, money, and headaches. Through automation, we enable the independent attorneys we coordinate with to maintain quality whilst being more efficient. Okay, Gail, so it works with companies to import our replacements. That's what I hear right there. Am I missing something? 00:20:59 Speaker 3: No, you're not, and that's not the only one. They have, I believe, scores of companies that are just AI or algorithm-driven apps or whatever that exist to just bring in labor. They take a cut off the top. They're monetizing immigration into the U.S. The head of Y Combinator right now is a guy named Gary Tan. He's a total kook. given bazillions of dollars to left-wing causes, donated to Ro Khanna, who's a total left-wing nutjob, the Minnesota DFL, Chuck Schumer, every left-wing cause you can imagine. And Mike Cernovich, who's amazing, just a national treasurer, he has been asking for days, is there a single general partner at Y Combinator who voted for Trump? Is there a single general partner there who doesn't hate Trump or hate Trump voters? And the answer is no. And you see this all across Silicon Valley. These people have massive control over the economy. They're all getting rich off of it. They hate you. They hate me. They hate what we stand for. They openly mock flyover country and the people who live there, you know, the people who actually grow our food and drive all the trucks that feed these people. And it's this attitude from these people that I think everyone has had enough of, that if you are going to come to this country and get rich, the bare minimum we ask you is to not take a dump on us on social media every time you get the opportunity. Because if your countries were so great and your cultures were so awesome, you wouldn't be here. So obviously we're better. So just acknowledge that we're better and maybe try to integrate yourself into what we're doing instead of taking craps on us all the time. Because I think I've had enough. I imagine tens of millions of Americans out there as well have also had enough. 00:22:44 Speaker 2: Oh, I totally agree. And there was this clip going around of, and I love all the H-1B advances lately from the Trump administration. I'm all about it. But there was Palmer Luckey talking about his time in Silicon Valley and what a scam it all is. So this stuff is getting abused in a big way. Throw up 191 here. This was another company that was highlighted, I believe, called Swadish. And this is very interesting. Swatch, this is another Y Combinator funded company. And it says, we offer a free U.S. FDIC insured checking account, free credit card, no interest rate, collateral fees, free AT & T SIM card shipped to your home with 40% cheaper plans than retail and save thousands of dollars in remittances to our customers all by opening a free Swatch account. We enable new to America expats become American in the eyes of There's actually a grammar typo error there, by the way. So I wonder what the nationality of the person that wrote this up is. In the eyes of the U.S. financial system, we're starting by serving 150,000 Indian expats migrating to the U.S. each year. Each year. We have a comprehensive solution that covers banking, credit building, communication, remittances. as well as value-add services such as insurance, housing, etc., along with all the standard bells and whistles of neobanks. I don't think the average American understands that when you get these foreigners and they really want to come to America, the massive amount of infrastructure that has been built around making it easy on them. 00:24:21 Speaker 8: And the way it's so exploitable in that because U.S. citizenship is so valuable that it gives you access to... benefits that it turns out are easily scammed. It gets you access to a powerful passport. It gets you access to so many things. And of course, it gets you access to bringing all of your family members. This is such a driver of why it's able to bring wages down, that essentially anyone who's coming here from a foreign country is being paid extra, something that an American citizen can't get, because they're getting paid with the ability to gain access to America. This has messed up our universities. It's messing up our tech world. And when you combine this with ideological leftism, it's a perfect recipe for absolutely a bonkers toxification of an important part of an American economy because we want a thriving tech sector. 00:25:10 Speaker 2: But it also makes it harder for DHS and State Department to deal with all this stuff when it's all AI-driven and all this stuff. There's another company that's a legal OS. It's an AI-native immigration law firm. that these people can tap into. Founded in 2024. Great. So, Sean, but what we're exposing is something deeper. It's this. And by the way, Cernovich has been on this. You mentioned Mike Cernovich, friend of the show. This is there an incompatibility with the tech bros? They were new to the coalition, but they seem to constantly be pushing to get more Indians, more foreign workers. What do we do about this in the coalition? 00:25:47 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:25:47 Speaker 3: And I welcome a big coalition to win elections here. You need lots of people on board. You know, we can't have everyone who's just like me or you or Blake. We know it takes a lot of people to build up a useful political coalition. But my view on new coalition partners is that you are taking a backseat to everyone else. You've not been on the team. You were giving money to Democrats up until about five seconds ago. We know exactly why you hopped on board is because you licked your finger and stuck it into the wind and saw which way it was blowing. That's fine. But you don't get to drive this bus. You are a passenger now. And what I think these left wing tech bros simply don't understand is the choice before you right now is you're not going back to 2004, 2012 and Mitt Romney republicanism. Okay, those days are over and they're gone forever. What you are going to get is you're going to get left-wing socialism in Luigi Mangione or you are going to get right-wing America First MAGA populism. Those are your choices. So if you're going to come in and hijack this bus and think that somehow you're going to get to drive it back in time, you are insane. And by the way, they may think people like you and me are crazy because we say the things we do and we don't really like what they're doing. They don't have to worry about us sneaking up behind them as they walk around a street corner in New York and shooting them in the back, okay? That's what left-wingers do, and they need to make a choice. You can be with Luigi, or you can get on board, understand you're not driving the bus anymore, that you're a passenger, but you can get on board and be with us, and you will be safe. Those are your choices. That's it. So you got to pick. 00:27:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such. 00:27:24 Speaker 8: And it's so bizarre, and it's something I like that someone pointed out, is a lot of these guys got so rich because they were good with computers, which means they weren't necessarily good at social skills as kids, that they're confused where they brought in a ton of people from the third world, and then they see this rising socialism, rising communism, rising anti-rich sentiment. in all the places where they are concentrated, and it's like they need to get the idea. Okay, if you guys want to side with the right, you actually have to get on board with some of our platform, and we're happy to play ball. The left is not going to play ball as soon as they decide that you need to be chucked. They need to get the message and get on board. 00:27:59 Speaker 2: I totally agree, and there's this great tweet, by the way, because I think we should talk a little bit about this, this anti-Indian sentiment that is very palpable. especially in places like Frisco, Texas. But there's this tweet that was really, it just had me cracking up the responses to it. This was from Nandini Gupta. It says, H-1B Indians staying in America should leave the USA as soon as possible so that America faces a massive economic downfall. We'll make them beg us to come back to their country for free. The American IT sector will fall to pieces without H-1B Indian workers here. And everybody's responses were like, your terms are agreeable. 00:28:44 Speaker 6: Oh, man. 00:28:45 Speaker 2: There's actually some stuff, you know. I want to highlight this tweet from a guy named Chris Corner, who apparently he runs, owns eight RV parks with investors and seven-plus companies in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. And he goes, it's becoming uncomfortably racist here in the Dallas suburbs. Here are the facts. Indians are 2% of the Dallas-Fort Worth area and own 5.3% of the businesses. Dallas-Fort Worth's Indian population more than doubled from 2000 to 2010 and is at 220,000 today. Asian Indians are the majority in many Frisco subdivisions, and Frisco is one of the wealthiest, fastest-growing suburbs in America. In Frisco, where Indians are the largest Asian group, Asian medium household income is $ 190, 000. Medium home prices at $ 642, 000. Poverty, 3.5%. Name the Dallas-Fort Worth suburbs with the most Indian families. Frisco, Plano, Allen. Now name the ones with the best schools and the highest home appreciation. Same list, okay? So that's his point. He's like, hey, you guys are... And by the way, I don't condone racism against Indians. I have no special animosity for Indians. I am Any groups that are coming in taking American jobs, I don't like, and they happen to be one of the chief H-1B recipients, right? It's just like 70% of H-1Bs are Indians, okay? But anyways, our friend Steven Crowder had a nice rebuttal. He said, well, get this. Indians only donate 1% of their income to charity. Americans, on average, donate over 4%. Church-going Christians making under $ 100, 000 a year donate 5.4% to 11%. And he said $ 32 billion a year gets remitted from the U.S. to India. That's big. And by the way, Plano and Frisco were already top-ranked Texas school districts back in 2010. The medium household income in Plano and Frisco have been over $ 100, 000 since 2010. Well, I think. 00:30:39 Speaker 8: It's interesting because the entire discussion around Indian immigration, it gets in elements of the debate over immigration that you don't usually have. Because we obviously are most worried about immigrants who come in and They're they're criminals. They're immediately huge welfare sponges, quality leering centers, all of that. And that's really bad. And we want to block that. But there are other downsides to immigration and it can come even when. As a lot of Indian immigrants do, they do follow the law. They actually are academically high achieving. But what you are doing when you do it at scale is you are bringing in people who are from outside of your cultural sphere. 00:31:16 Speaker 4: They're from outside. 00:31:17 Speaker 8: They don't have the same values you do, even if they're not wantonly violent or destructive. 00:31:22 Speaker 4: They're just different. 00:31:24 Speaker 8: And especially if they're actually very talented, you're basically creating a new elite for your country. And it's usually not good for a country when it has a new elite of people who don't feel historically connected to that country. And I think that's what's driving some of those takes on X that are making people really angry. It's this guy who's just not historically from America, and he has obvious blinding contempt for ordinary Americans. And that's going to set people off, even if he's a talented guy who's created jobs and founded nice companies. 00:31:58 Speaker 2: Sean, your take. 00:31:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's interesting. I believe this radical thought that stems from the Constitution, the Declaration, that America exists to secure the blessings of liberty for Americans, which is to say America exists for Americans. Now, does that mean we should never, ever let anyone in again ever from a foreign country? No, but it does mean that America needs to stay American. And you reach a certain point with immigration where the numbers get so high that you have a tipping point where the people who are coming in are no longer becoming American. What they are doing is becoming people who just live in America. And you can see this in the cultural practices they retain. You can see this in where they are sending their money via remittances. So many, such a high percentage of people who are coming in do not see themselves as American. They see themselves still as Indian. They see their roots as Indian. They are not willing to assimilate into our culture. And that is how you destroy a culture. And so you might ask, well, who cares? America's awesome, and let them make money. Who cares about the culture? The culture is why we are better than everyone else. That is an objective statement. If we weren't better than everyone else, everyone else wouldn't be trying to come here. So America invented the automobile and the airplane. We split the atom. We created the aircraft carrier. We made computers and the Internet. We put rockets in space. OK, we put a man on the moon. Other countries did not do this. Americans did this. People like Homer Hickam from West Virginia did this. So I want everyone else to understand we don't actually need you here. We have been the best country in all of history here. without you. So the fact that we let you come here is a gift that you should be thankful for. You should want to become American and adopt our practices and beliefs because they are better. And at this point, I have no tolerance for the people who want to come in and replace our culture with theirs, because if theirs was better, they wouldn't need to be here in the first place. 00:33:56 Speaker 2: And I love the self-confidence. As a country, we need to get back to a place where we're confident in ourselves and our own culture. And we have a culture, by the way. We're Americans. We have a heritage. We're a people. This note kind of– people– we go back to the tech pro thing. We have this issue within our own party as well when you look at like Senator Curtis from Utah who wants to sort of– he has a bill to bring I guess a certain number of immigration choices back to the state level so that they can import foreign labor and replace Americans. What do we why is this such a dogged problem within the conservative ranks and how do how the heck do we get it out? Because I think the base is completely in alignment here. 00:34:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's really two camps. You have the base, which says, hey, we feel like we're losing our country. And this country is our birthright. It belongs to us. Our fathers and grandfathers and great, great, great grandfathers died and shed their blood for this place. OK, so this is ours and we want to protect it. And on the other side, you have a lot of people who are probably more materialistic, a little more money minded who see the immigration. They're like, well, This would allow me to make more money because I can pay people less for the same job. And I don't really care if they come in and they actually cost more on net because the government's going to pay for it. And I can spread that cost over everyone else in the country as opposed to absorbing it. So it becomes kind of like a dollars versus a cultural protection argument. And I think far too many people in the party right now care more about how much they're making right now than they do about leaving a legacy and a country to their kids and their grandchildren that will give them the same opportunities that they had. 00:35:42 Speaker 2: You know, it's really simple things for me, too. I want to go to a park and talk to people that feel like my neighbors. I want to go to the DMV and hear English. I want to go to the emergency room if I have to use it and not feel like it's Ellis Island. You know, simple things. Simple things. 00:36:00 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:36:01 Speaker 2: And there's a by the way, there's a tax, you know, and all the fraud and all of those things are fair. But just Americans feeling like it's America. That's that's really core, actually, to this. And that gets lost so often in the in the debate. And that's what that's xenophobic and that's bigoted and hateful. No, it's not. It's just normal. It's just what normal people want. Sean Davis, the man. Thank you, my friend. Good to see you. 00:36:27 Speaker 3: Thank you, sir. 00:36:30 Speaker 2: Hi, folks. Andrew Colvett here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at YRefi. You've probably been hearing me talk about YRefi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments. Maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. YRefi will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America and we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much they owe. YRefi can help. Just go to YRefi.com. That's the letter Y, then refi.com. And remember, YRefi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to YRefi.com and tell them your friend Andrew sent you. We have the The best, I guess, what do we call him? The best MAGA pollster. What do people call you, Rich Barris? The people's pundit. Big data poll. But it is true. In an era, this is why I love Rich. In an era where pollsters were all establishment pollsters, they were all left-leaning, and they didn't know how to poll the right, Rich Barris came in and made a huge name for himself because you understand the base better than anybody. I really believe that in this space, Rich. But we've got a little bit of a different challenge for you today because you're not a one-trick pony. You know the left as well, and you understand what's driving these surges. You poll everybody, and you hear from voters. You're one of the few pollsters out there that is actually picking up the phone yourself or engaging in back-and-forth and digital communications. So the question that I have, and this has come up over the last couple days. That's something I've been percolating on. If you think about El-Sayed, and I was on with Will Kane yesterday on Fox talking about something similar. that the left, the DSA, is no longer the fringe. They are in some ways, in many ways, the dominant movement within the Democrat Party. So you ask yourself, somebody like El-Sayed, which is, this has been a huge, huge controversy on the left. If you watch CNN, if you watch MSNBC or MSNL, whatever it is, all they're talking about is Hassan Piker. You've got the former Obama bros talking about, can we just please not talk about Hassan Piker for one day? It is dividing their movement. El-Sayed has not condemned... Hasan Piker for many of the things that he said, which are ghoulish and awful and gross, and he's a... I just think he's the lowest of the low. He celebrates assassination culture. Why is El-Sayed not doing it? Is it because he doesn't want to look bad, like he caved to the mob? Or is it because he sees the polling? He knows the numbers. He knows who's going to show up for him. So what is the polling behind somebody like Hasan Piker? 00:39:24 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's interesting, Andrew, because we're in a midterm cycle. 00:39:27 Speaker 9: So if El-Sayed... is it's a risk here, if he does outright condemn him and you can see him trying to distance himself from Hassan Piker, but He's not condemning or ostracizing him because he knows, regardless, and even in a midterm cycle, there still is the majority of the Democratic Party that generally shares most of the views that Hassan Piker shares. That's just a fact. I think I watched on X the other day, Tyler from TP. 00:39:55 Speaker 10: I mean, he was right. 00:39:56 Speaker 9: Within 10 years, the Democratic Party, I actually think that's probably a lot. Within 10 years, the Democratic Party will almost have assuredly lost this fight to the DSA because more and more and more Democrats over the years have continued to identify as Democratic socialists, not just as traditional liberals. That identification is down like 12%, 15% of Democrat-identifying voters. 00:40:20 Speaker 10: So he's not doing it because. 00:40:22 Speaker 9: He's afraid of alienating what is effectively the Democratic base. 00:40:26 Speaker 10: But here's the kicker. 00:40:27 Speaker 2: It's a midterm. 00:40:29 Speaker 10: And the question, which we're going to find out here in a couple of days, it's Thursday, we'll start tomorrow. 00:40:33 Speaker 9: The question is, does embracing somebody like Assam Piker hurt you enough in the midterm to cost. 00:40:39 Speaker 10: You a Senate seat in a place like Michigan? 00:40:41 Speaker 9: Because it's risky to do for short-term gains because when we get to 2028, it almost assuredly will doom you. So there will be, of course, more younger voters who agree with Assam Piker, especially on the left. Um, and it's, it's, you know, you might as well roll a dice if you're all say head right now, because you don't know the truth is though, if he can get them both out, this is what actually makes him more dangerous than what people seem to want. 00:41:07 Speaker 10: They, they want, they don't want to just. 00:41:09 Speaker 9: Accept this, but somebody like Haley Stevens was going to get the traditional Democrat out and that's it. And in a tight race, uh, in some place like Michigan, that gave Rogers a decent chance, despite what people may think. The conventional wisdom is completely backward. The danger of Al-Sayed is that he does consolidate that Democratic base, which it looks like, regardless of what we see online in. 00:41:32 Speaker 10: The polling, he has. 00:41:35 Speaker 9: If those other additional voters who are not traditional midterm voters come out as well, it will make him even more difficult. 00:41:43 Speaker 10: We have seen something like this with Graham Plattner. 00:41:45 Speaker 9: If Bernie Sanders, guys, would have won the nomination in 2016, would Donald Trump have carried the state of Michigan by 10,000 votes? Probably not, because 12% to 16% of Bernie's left-wing populist support went to Donald Trump. So a lot of the conventional wisdom is that the establishment candidate is typically stronger. 00:42:06 Speaker 10: Four years ago, guys, that was true. 00:42:09 Speaker 9: You know, somebody like Joe Biden taking it from Bernie Sanders gave them a better shot in 2020 even. But that's not really true now because back then, 40% of the Democratic base called themselves a DSA or aligned themselves with democratic socialism. Now, when you ask them what they identify with, leave the democratic socialists of America organization out of it and just ask them ideologically, who do you align more with? And they say democratic socialist every day of the week. 00:42:37 Speaker 2: That's so interesting. Yeah. I mean, there's that Gallup poll that shows 66% of Democrats now view socialism favorably, right? When you take the DSA out of it, More Democrats now view socialism favorably than they view capitalism favorably. If you look at Veristat does a temperature gauge. They did it, I think, last time in June. The top three current officeholders in the Democrat Party, the most favorable, the highest favorability ratings, AOC, Bernie Sanders, Mamdani. So we see. 00:43:10 Speaker 8: They're saying they like socialism more. They like capitalism less. But we've seen some quirks to this like that. socialists are now the most pro-free trade part. 00:43:20 Speaker 10: Of the U.S. 00:43:21 Speaker 8: Because that means you're opposing Trump's tariffs, for example, when historically socialists would not feel that way. So how does this work out in terms of what they actually want policy-wise? Are they embracing, besides saying they like socialism more, does this generation of young Democrats, what do they actually want government to do that older Democrats wouldn't share with them? Or is there more similarity in what they'd actually want government to do than we might expect? 00:43:46 Speaker 9: This is getting a little bit into burn it down territory here, Blake, because in truth, they're they're early and they're they're a bit premature in their movement, even though they've been around for a while. But they haven't identified policy platforms as sophisticated as another movement like the MAGA movement did even very early where Donald Trump got into specifics about. why he was where he was on trade and immigration, and how that benefited the worker. 00:44:12 Speaker 10: The DSA and the. 00:44:13 Speaker 9: Democratic Socialists right now have some conflict. They're for positions that the public actually doesn't see, even younger people, many of them, they don't see as benefiting them. 00:44:23 Speaker 10: And that's the in for the right, okay? 00:44:26 Speaker 9: Because they'll get into a fight with the Democratic establishment if they do get a lot more. 00:44:32 Speaker 10: Office, if they start to hold a lot more offices. 00:44:34 Speaker 9: They'll get into a fight with some members of the Democratic establishment on where they want to go. Because the truth is, if you asked a common Democratic voter, not just a middle of the road or average voter, if you asked a common Democratic voter, what do they stand for that differentiates themselves from the establishment Democratic Party, they'll maybe answer Israel. 00:44:58 Speaker 10: And that's it. That's all. Well, Democrats still largely elected. 00:45:02 Speaker 9: Democrats still largely support Israel and foreign aid to Israel where the DSA does not. When we get into places like trade, they're very gray. All they know is that, you know, very general stuff. I'm against oligarchy, but are you really? If that's where your position is on trade, on free trade, because you're anti-Trump, are you really against the oligarchy? Because Donald Trump's trade policy is anti-oligarchy. So this is where the right has an in right now. And I know that doesn't directly answer what you were saying, but I really did want everyone to understand There's a way to counter these people, and it's not the way we're handling it now. 00:45:38 Speaker 10: It's substance. 00:45:39 Speaker 9: I mean Donald Trump from the media never really saw it in 2015 and 16. He was very substantive, and that is the direction that the right has to take now to combat these people and their message. 00:45:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it kind of strikes me that they're going to get better on their policy platforms. The intellectual vanguard is going to come up with some ideas just like we saw MAGA sort of mature over time. 00:46:04 Speaker 11: The Democratic Party right now is, I think, going through a kind of experiment. 00:46:10 Speaker 10: Like, who can. 00:46:11 Speaker 11: Actually respond, particularly to young people's very real concerns about where they are at this point in their lives and what kind of future do they have for themselves? 00:46:24 Speaker 10: And I think that's healthy. 00:46:26 Speaker 2: She thinks it's healthy there, Rich, to experiment with a bunch of socialists and communists in the party. But the question is, and here's always been the big caveat with the left, they don't know when to stop. They don't know when too much is too much. They don't have a self-limiting agency, it doesn't seem. As soon as they get momentum, they go too far. And there is a difference between electability and favorability. So even though Mamdani and AOC and Bernie might be the most favorable candidates, according to their base, doesn't mean that those are electable candidates, especially in a state like Michigan, which is a purple state, and El-Sayed's trying to win it as a far-left candidate. So what is this experiment, and do you think that they are going to ultimately go too far and create an opportunity for us? 00:47:16 Speaker 9: You know, Hillary's saying that is interesting to me, because back in 2016 when she ran, what you just said was everywhere, and for the last year, Democrats did, or maybe more, actually, almost two now, for the last couple of 15, 16 months, it seemed like Democrats were learn discipline for a little bit. 00:47:35 Speaker 10: They were just quiet. 00:47:37 Speaker 9: They were letting the right commit all of these like self-inflicted wounds and, and, and, and in fight, there's been a lot of infighting. Um, and now it seems that there's the DSA, uh, has caused them to revert. And this is always the great right hope, right, is that Democrats can't control themselves. And it does seem like, I think, and I just mentioned this the other day, I'm seeing glimmers, Andrew, of the Democrat party that we all know coming back because they're trying to placate these people and they really don't know how. And in the process, they're crazy starting to leak through, right? I mean, you're seeing their stupid stuff that they, that that side talks about the far left side talks about seeping into what is their mainstream conversation. Like we constantly have to focus on Natalie. We constantly have to focus on Trump's name on a building like, and they, and they get crazy. They lose their minds over this stuff. 00:48:34 Speaker 10: Hakeem Jeffries. I don't know if I'm sure you guys saw it. 00:48:38 Speaker 9: It looks to me like the potential future speaker of the house took a Philly to the face and And decided he was going to go blunted to do a live stream. I mean, everyone's talking about his New York Yankee hat. 00:48:49 Speaker 10: I don't know about you guys. That is not what I saw. 00:48:52 Speaker 9: I mean, that deeply disturbed me. But this is what's going on because why did he do it? He did it for the same reason that Hillary made that statement. He was trying to placate people who had heard him meeting with Jared Kushner, and they flipped out over it because, God forbid, you have a conversation with the other side about anything, right? 00:49:10 Speaker 10: Like adults, God forbid. 00:49:13 Speaker 9: And they flipped out, and he had to go put a fire out because he didn't want the DSA stomping. 00:49:18 Speaker 10: All over him, right? 00:49:19 Speaker 4: He could be the petitioner. 00:49:20 Speaker 9: Next speaker he's got to make sure that they're okay so they're crazy as seeping through because they're not going to be able to contain the dsa um and hillary she flirted with it too and she did it for nothing because trump wound up taking a bunch of those bernie voters anyway. 00:49:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because he did an end around on their populist economics. That's right. But they are, I think, we are at risk of losing that edge right now with the DSA. This was interesting. Cory Booker came out, and this was all over the social medias yesterday. Hassan Piker's dangerous and hateful language targeting Jewish Americans has no place in our civic discourse. Suggesting that Jewish Americans bear responsibility for hatred or violence directed against them is wrong, dangerous, and anti-Semitic. And he kind of goes on, and he said, Mr. Piker has crossed that line repeatedly and unmistakably. I actually applaud him coming out and having a bit of moral courage, because I don't think it was popular. Is it moral, though? 00:50:13 Speaker 3: Is it moral, or is it. 00:50:14 Speaker 10: Because he has huge communities of Hasidics in Lakeland, New Jersey? 00:50:17 Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. 00:50:18 Speaker 10: In Jackson. 00:50:18 Speaker 4: That's exactly right. 00:50:19 Speaker 2: I mean, he's the panderer. Yeah, I mean, so, of course, New Jersey, right? You've got a massive Jewish community, especially in northern New Jersey. I get the politics of it, but... You know, it's OK with me because he is actually doing the right thing with Assam Piker. But this I don't think it was popular for him nationally. I don't think this was popular with him in his party at all. And it's not. 00:50:42 Speaker 9: And this is something that I've tried to convey to people. You know, the the elected Democratic class is that on. 00:50:52 Speaker 10: This issue, the issue of support for Israel. 00:50:55 Speaker 9: I think we're letting Democrats get away while the right calls each other anti-Semitic. We're letting Democrats get away with what's happening beneath their surface because the John Fetterman's, the Cory Booker's, they do not represent the average Democratic voter. 00:51:10 Speaker 10: Guys, support for Israel. And it's coming from a very I feel like on the right. It's a shame. 00:51:16 Speaker 9: I feel like on the right. A lot of honest discussion. And I'm not saying it's all honest or in good faith, but. A lot of honest discussion is getting labeled. 00:51:24 Speaker 10: anti-Semitic, but I'm telling you on the left, it's really anti-Semitic. When you're a pollster and. 00:51:29 Speaker 9: An average Democratic voter has no problem saying something anti-Semitic to the pollster interviewing them and not thinking, not even understanding that that's real hatred. Their issue is maybe 10 years ago was the treatment of the Palestinian people, and they really cared about that. But we've moved into something else on the left, and unfortunately the right needs to refocus. They need to stop the infighting, and they need to direct their fire where it belongs, their criticisms where it really does belong because you could go to Detroit and hear some real anti-Semitism folks. 00:52:09 Speaker 2: Rich, I think it's interesting too because we've been talking about this horseshoe theory. where you're seeing certain online personalities that are right-coded, that were Trump supporters, but now they're sort of saying the left-right paradigm. I tend to think that that's all about foreign policy. I really think that's the driving factor. 00:52:26 Speaker 10: On the right. On the right. 00:52:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. 00:52:29 Speaker 10: Me too. 00:52:29 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the question is what do we do about it and how do you message it? Here's actually a different question. We started the show off with Orrin McIntyre talking about how Trump is stacking up wins quietly right now. There's like H-1B. We've got this visa pause. There's actually a lot of good stuff going on right now. Are you seeing us turn a corner? Blake has made the point that August tends to be our low point in midterms when we're polling. Is there any hope that we can start– no? You're not seeing any momentum yet? 00:53:00 Speaker 1: Listen. 00:53:01 Speaker 3: Listen. 00:53:02 Speaker 9: There's– and I have so little time to address it, but it isn't necessarily true that the summer is a lull. There's like– and I've talked to people all the way at the top who say the same thing, but it really is the at-a-party power has a boost and then tends to gain. So, yeah, there was a lull in 22, but that's because there was– it was. 00:53:25 Speaker 10: A better Republican year. There was a lull in 16, but it was a better Republican year. 00:53:29 Speaker 6: Right. 00:53:29 Speaker 9: When you look at something like 18, there really wasn't. So it really is more about the out-of-party than it is about just something that targets Republicans. Look, I think we are seeing more enthusiasm, and I have a lot of hope. 00:53:47 Speaker 10: I guess hope is not even the word. 00:53:48 Speaker 9: I'm bullish on the convention's ability to snap people out of things, and I think Aaron is right. 00:53:55 Speaker 10: There are a lot of wins beneath the surface. 00:53:57 Speaker 9: And you would say, well, why aren't we showcasing them? Go look at the midterm convention schedule. 00:54:03 Speaker 10: And very clearly, they intend to do it there. 00:54:05 Speaker 9: They ignore Iran, which they should, which is smart. 00:54:08 Speaker 10: And I know they're getting criticized, but that's the right thing. 00:54:10 Speaker 9: And tout those wins and snap people out of it, which I think we are starting to see a little bit of a wake out of the fog. 00:54:16 Speaker 2: Rich Barris, author of Burn It Down. Go get a copy. Big data poll, the people's pun. 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Let's bring you in here. I see you. Will Witt, the man, the myth, our newest contributor at Turning Point. We're grateful to have you will. And, uh, welcome to the team. You've already been doing great work. You were doing pick up the mic tour last year and it was phenomenal. We had some great clips with you. And so now we have the, the, the, the fall tour though. And this is a, a big, big deal around turning point. So internally at turning point, when we announce our tours and our tour schedules, it's a big day. Yesterday was the day Andrew ciphers, the man behind all of this work. Uh, tell us, tell us about it. 00:57:17 Speaker 12: Well, the tour is so special to us. Uh, For those that have been to America Fest, it is America Fest on the road that caters specifically to our high school and college students. 00:57:27 Speaker 7: Right. 00:57:28 Speaker 12: This is the programming that represents what they want to see, what they want to hear. 00:57:32 Speaker 7: Students. 00:57:33 Speaker 12: This is how Charlie changed the needle going into 2024. 00:57:37 Speaker 6: Right. 00:57:38 Speaker 2: Was the tours. 00:57:39 Speaker 12: And we started them over a decade ago. bringing Charlie to rooms of about 100, 200, maybe 300 kids. 00:57:46 Speaker 8: We started Charlie going to assemblies of five people trying to get them. 00:57:50 Speaker 7: To debate him. 00:57:50 Speaker 12: Yeah, the first time I brought him to campus, I got 100 kids into a room, and I was proud of myself. 00:57:55 Speaker 6: Oh, yeah. 00:57:55 Speaker 12: Yeah, I kept my job, and that's why I'm still here. 00:57:59 Speaker 2: People don't know this. Cypher's been here longer than I've been with Turning Point and Charlie. Since 2016? You're OG, bro. 00:58:06 Speaker 12: Since 2016, back in the day when we were begging people to come to rooms. 00:58:08 Speaker 4: You'd have to send staff around to be like, would you like to debate it? 00:58:11 Speaker 10: Charlie Kirk? 00:58:12 Speaker 4: Who is Charlie Kirk? 00:58:12 Speaker 12: We have this young whippersnapper that's coming in here and do you want to debate him? 00:58:16 Speaker 7: Like, who? 00:58:18 Speaker 12: And here's the incredible thing about the tour. The tour does two things. One, it addresses the culture war that's happening on college campuses. And two, it helps elevate new and upcoming names in the conservative movement. Will Witt, it's a full circle having Will Witt part of this tour because Will Witt back in the day, in the early days of Turning Point USA, he was a student in Colorado helping build some of the early names of the Turning Point tour with Anna Paulina Luna, who's now a congresswoman for us, Brandon Tatum, who's a well-known influencer in the movement. And those were just young upcoming names at the time that Will Witt and others as students were hosting as part of our campus tour. And now Will Witt is one of those upcoming names that we are building. 00:59:01 Speaker 2: I don't mean to get ahead of myself here, but throw up graphic 183. And I want you to– Will Witt, his face now is all the way up. You only get outclassed by Riley Gaines here, Will. That's it. That's the only person ahead of you on this graphic. 00:59:17 Speaker 4: Stonks. 00:59:18 Speaker 2: Which is very fair. 00:59:19 Speaker 7: Riley is much better than me. 00:59:20 Speaker 2: But, Will, you're also part of the big campus tour, and I know because we've talked that you're pumped about that. Um, what school are you going to be at and, or schools? I actually can't remember. Uh, well, and why are you like pumped to be a part of this? 00:59:37 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:59:37 Speaker 7: So for the tour, I mean, first of all, thanks guys. 00:59:39 Speaker 6: I mean, this is just so cool to be on this tour, to be able to do all the campuses. I mean, it's, it's really a dream to be able to do this. And like Andrew said, come back full circle, you know, this ain't my first rodeo with all this, but to be back and doing it basically full time in the semester is so cool. 00:59:52 Speaker 7: And so I'll be at Reno, I know. 00:59:54 Speaker 6: And then I'll also be at Cal Poly slow for like the bigger tour events. 00:59:58 Speaker 7: And those should be super cool. 00:59:59 Speaker 6: And one of the things that I think is so important that I think Charlie was so good at, which I'm sure you guys have noticed as well, is that a lot of people are kind of getting into this movement right now. And they say they're conservatives, but their actual views on conservatism are very shallow. And so I think one of the things that's really good about this tour is they get to hear from people like myself and all the other people on there to actually help strengthen those ideas. Because going on social media and seeing clips of you know conservative stuff isn't what's going to save this country it actually takes people understanding the ideas reading the original thinkers and asking questions to be able to save this country and so i think you know this tour is going to be doing exactly that. 01:00:37 Speaker 2: Yeah i mean that's such a good point you just brought up i think one of the things in this recent season when you see all this tumult on social media is that the roots didn't go down very deep with some people. And when things get a little bit hard, they want to bail on it for vibes or feels. I mean, this is something you talk. 01:00:54 Speaker 7: About all the time. 01:00:54 Speaker 8: A lot of people have, they kind of have good gut feelings, but they're in an environment that's very hostile to maybe the values they grew up with, but now they're in college and they're not in that surrounding environment. They don't necessarily think about politics that hard, so they're vulnerable to arguments that are actually pretty weak, but they've never argued against them. And they gain strength from just Being in an auditorium where they see someone who's confident, who can make an argument that maybe they've struggled to make themselves, and then it'll. 01:01:24 Speaker 4: Stick in their brain. 01:01:25 Speaker 8: They need the people to be voicing the views they want to agree with. 01:01:29 Speaker 4: Otherwise, it's not going to stick. 01:01:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and you've been super consistent over the years and just growing and getting better. And I'd love to point you out. It's just such a success story. from the spring semester, you just had all these clips that went viral, got massive views, and you're defending conservatism, actual conservatism, not like some sort of vibes and feel thing. You actually believe this stuff, and I want to commend you for that, because there's a lot of people that come in and out of the movement, and they wash out, and you've got staying power. And the fact that, you know. 01:02:02 Speaker 2: We're getting this full circle moment with you is really exciting for me. I know it is for you too, Cypher. 01:02:07 Speaker 12: Yeah, and the reality, I mean, Blake touched on it so perfectly, is two-thirds of those involved in the movement right now on the college level and high school level started after 9-10 of last year. So two-thirds of our student leaders have joined the movement after the assassination where they said, I'm standing up, I'm getting involved. 01:02:29 Speaker 4: Those kids want to learn more. 01:02:31 Speaker 12: They're excited for this because this is their turning point that they are living in real time that they did not get to experience prior. 01:02:37 Speaker 4: There are so many people who are inspired. We get emails all the time. 01:02:40 Speaker 8: We just got one from the UK, actually, a kid who said, Charlie massively inspires me, and he's the guy I look to model my life around. There are people who go that far, others who just say, I love his ability to debate, his confidence, and they want to learn from him and be modeled after him, but We don't have Charlie anymore, so we need other people to pick up the mic, as it were, and continue this tradition. 01:03:03 Speaker 6: Yeah. 01:03:04 Speaker 2: Well, so there's two– I want to make sure this is very clear for people out there, and we're going to get into the pick up the mic thing in segment two with Will and Andrew. But we're talking about the big campus tour. These are the tentpole events where we do a massive event with live people. We do Q & A. If you disagree, you come to the front of the line. That is mandatory at every single one of these events that if you disagree, you get a chance to debate Will Witt. You get a chance to debate Brandon Gill. You get a chance to debate Tulsi Gabbard and Don Jr. and Michael Knowles. I mean, this is like what this is really about. So we're excited about that opportunity. And I think this point, you know, some people, it's like they don't understand the dynamic here. Cypher, because actually our campuses are the ones that are requesting these speakers. So the campuses, when we partner with a school, let's say it's at UT Austin, they, they have like a request list and we try and work with their request list, right? Because we want the chapter to lead. So if you were kind of wondering like some, some of the names on there, you know, what, what, well, maybe we agree with them on some things. Maybe we don't agree with them on everything, but the kids really wanted to see him and guess what's going to happen. They're going to have a chance to test their ideas and their positions against kids that are hostile to their worldview. 01:04:19 Speaker 12: Because this movement is a bottom-up movement. And we learned that a long time ago. If you try to impose any programming, they will refuse or reject it. 01:04:28 Speaker 10: They won't put in any work. 01:04:29 Speaker 12: If this is a true grassroots movement, they have to be the drivers behind that. And so they're the ones. The best chapters are the ones selected for this tour. So it's a meritocracy. We're going to the chapters. that put in the work when there's no attention on them. They're the ones having the meetings. They're the ones debating, recruiting their peers on campus, rain or shine. And so it's a meritocracy. They're awarded the tour stop. Then we work with them on who are speakers that interest them. And then we go to work with these schools and these speakers to see where does it work with this guy. 01:04:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was kind of a revelation to me when I first started kind of getting involved with the tours and seeing how the sausage is made is just how much these campuses will are like fostering jockeying for position they're like no we want the tour stop we want the tour stop and it's like sometimes it's like hey you you made the second tier this time you know but but for the next or the spring tour in this instance like you know you're on our list and we're gonna you know but it's a wild thing like that's gotta feel kind of good right will that the kids are actually asking for will wit right like that i. 01:05:31 Speaker 7: Mean that means you've done a thing It's very strange. 01:05:33 Speaker 6: I'm sitting here reading Robin Hood and I'm thinking, wow, there are people who actually want to come hear me speak and do these kind of things. 01:05:39 Speaker 7: It still blows my mind that this is what happens. 01:05:41 Speaker 6: And so I feel truly blessed to be able to do this with you guys and carry on Charlie's legacy and actually go and educate these people. One of the things that was one of the most important things that Charlie taught me about all this, I mean, as you can see, the books behind me is what I'm doing, is actually reading the material. 01:05:57 Speaker 7: I'd I think that is so imperative. 01:06:00 Speaker 6: And I think, you know, you were talking before about how I've been doing this for a long time. I've been in this for 10 years. I've had staying power, still relevant and growing and doing these things. And it's because I know a lot of the material inside and out. You know, I remember Charlie telling me that you need to be a better communist than the communists are so that you know their arguments. 01:06:15 Speaker 7: And so I think going. 01:06:16 Speaker 6: Into these tour stops with the people that we have going and speaking, being very prepared for these kinds of arguments, we can show those students that, man, you can fight against these powers of evil. You can fight against and the far leftists and the gender theory and all these things and actually win just by going and actually. 01:06:32 Speaker 7: Knowing the information. 01:06:33 Speaker 2: Well said. Well said, Will Witt, which is a lot to get out. We're going to turn our attention to the Pick Up the Mic Tour, which you're also going to be a part of, Will, and I'm really excited about this. It's been a huge effort. You guys are doing great. Let's get right into it. Stop 14. We don't do mediocre around here. 01:06:54 Speaker 1: We try to raise the level of excellence because we are constantly trying to push. 01:06:58 Speaker 10: The conservative movement and the country. 01:07:00 Speaker 1: To places it's never been before. You are part of it. 01:07:04 Speaker 10: It's something bigger than all of us. 01:07:08 Speaker 2: Women who kill their own kids because they want to be the CEO boss, babe, they're selfish, yeah. 01:07:13 Speaker 6: I believe that illegal immigrants do harm in this country by making it a worse place to live for people who were born in this country who are American citizens. 01:07:23 Speaker 11: We have to be the ones to equip our children and our grandchildren with the knowledge about some of the evils and the danger of the world before the outside world gets to them. 01:07:32 Speaker 4: What do you do with the people that violate those laws? 01:07:35 Speaker 12: And the answer is deportation. 01:07:37 Speaker 5: We compliment one another. Men compliment women. 01:07:39 Speaker 2: Women compliment men. Pick up the mic. Pick up the mic tour. Will Witts rising through the. 01:07:53 Speaker 2: The turning point stock market graphics. Impressive. Impressive. All right. So this is a very interesting program, right? Because obviously Charlie was the best at these events. And, you know, we miss him every day for many reasons. One of those is that this leaves a huge gap. But what's been really impressive, and we did a whole training. Will, you were here for it. A lot of people came to campus. There was, you know, dozens and dozens of people That want to be in this space. That want to go on campus and debate. Like, got flooded with people that want to do this. Some are influencers. Some are people like Will that are our contributors. Some are students. Some are chapter leaders. And we did a whole training here on debate and understanding the left and understand logical fallacies and logical traps. Tell us about how we're relaunching this program. 01:08:49 Speaker 7: Well, this goes back to. 01:08:52 Speaker 12: You know, the conversations I had with Charlie was there wasn't enough talent in the space. There weren't enough people doing what he was doing. and that was a frustration of his was that yes he was honored by the responsibility he was given but he also wanted there to be more talent more people that could articulate our viewpoints that could take the battle to the front lines because that's what it is when you're doing this pick up the mic it is our on campus on the quad debates with students behind a card table And that is frontline work because when you do a night event, it's ticketed. There's only a certain demographic that will come to a night event that's ticketed. But when you go on to the quad, you're interfacing with the entire demographic of the student body, the apathetics, those that are engaged, the opposition, those that are supportive. And so this is our way to flood the zone to do what we did incredibly effectively with Charlie, but now with a variety of talent, whether it be students that are trying to, you know, they're stepping up since the last 9-10. 01:09:50 Speaker 4: To, you know, influencers like Will Ware and Nick Freitas, those that have been. 01:09:52 Speaker 12: Doing this for a while, saying, hey, how do we flood the zone to be able to influence more students that are on the sidelines wanting to hear and participate in this that didn't have the chance or didn't think they'd have the chance when things changed? 01:10:04 Speaker 2: And, you know, I mean, but we're doing like a bunch of these, right? So with Charlie, obviously, it was this huge, you know, it was promoted and there's thousands of people, but these might, you might, we might have some of these that have like 12 people at them. 01:10:16 Speaker 4: So we were averaging about 20 people. 01:10:17 Speaker 12: 20 to 25 a semester with Charlie, and that was a heavy lift. We were averaging about 3,000 to 4,000 per stop. Last spring, when we rolled this out, as kind of a beta program. 01:10:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were in the beta stage. 01:10:30 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, it was a very early stage, and we did about 50 of them in the spring. Well, as you saw on the screen, we plan to do 300 plus this fall. 01:10:40 Speaker 2: Did you hear that? So, 300 plus, pick up the mic, this is like this, the folding table, the like, you know, it's very grassroots. You might have a lot of people that come around and stand around the table. You might have like one at a time and that's it, but we're going to be rolling cameras. 01:10:59 Speaker 4: Charlie started that way. 01:11:01 Speaker 2: Yes. 01:11:01 Speaker 4: Charlie started that way. 01:11:02 Speaker 8: And I love that you mentioned, you know, that he was very good at it, but he did feel there was a talent shortage. And I think one of the, we talked about how Charlie always sought out mentorship, but another great thing about Charlie was he was not possessive or territorial about his talents that he, He really wanted there to be more people who could do exactly what he did on campus. 01:11:22 Speaker 2: You're going to be doing it, aren't you? 01:11:23 Speaker 4: They're throwing me out there. They haven't told me where yet. 01:11:25 Speaker 2: I need to find out where. Throw up the graphic. Let's see where you are on the stock chart here. 01:11:30 Speaker 8: I have a very sour-looking, neutral look on my face. I'm on the far left of the second row, I believe. 01:11:38 Speaker 2: Oh, so you got second row. Not bad. Not bad. That was probably a courtesy. 01:11:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I have some glower. 01:11:44 Speaker 8: They decided to take my glowering expression rather than a smiling expression. 01:11:48 Speaker 2: So, I mean, just some of the names here. Obviously, we got Will Witt, who's with us right now. Shane Winnings, who did a great job, by the way, last. He was one of the standouts. He had some viral clips. 01:11:57 Speaker 12: Shane was one of the first. Literally within weeks after Charlie's assassination, he stepped right on to. 01:12:04 Speaker 2: Our campus and started doing it on his own. 01:12:06 Speaker 6: Yeah. 01:12:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. Brandon Tatum, Lucas Miles, who runs TPSA Faith, Nick Freitas, of course, Kristen Hawkins, great, Alex Clark, Blake, Chloe Cole, Jack Posobiec, Joe Bob, Stephen Davis, Pastor John Amanchukwu, Anthony Watson, who just did a big high school event with us, 600 kids at a high school, Graham Allen, Bo Alford, who's been doing some great man on the street stuff, Alex Stein, Joshua Hames, Corey Sims, John Doyle, The Moderate Case, Matt Nuclear. I mean, this is awesome. This is an awesome group of people. And by the way, many, many more. Because we've got over 300 of these to do. So this is a massive... And people wonder, like, what are you going to do? How do you replace Charlie? Well, this is a good point for you to come in. People always say, well, how are you going to replace Charlie? And I'm always like, that is the stupidest question ever. Nobody's ever going to replace Charlie. He's one of one. He was a pure phenom. And A modern day founding father. But we all have to do our small part. And maybe collectively, if we all pick up the slack where we can, that, you know, yeah, nobody's going to get, you know, two billion views on their own. 01:13:16 Speaker 6: Right. 01:13:16 Speaker 2: Like Charlie would do some semesters. But you put 300 events together and you have enough clips. Maybe maybe you move the needle in a serious way. 01:13:24 Speaker 6: Yeah, but none of these people who are on that graphic are trying to replace Charlie. But I think that everyone should be asking the question of how can we all live more like Charlie? I mean, such a brave man, courageous man, faith-filled. 01:13:34 Speaker 7: Man, tenacious. 01:13:36 Speaker 6: I mean, all of these great qualities that he had, how can we all live to be more like that? And I think doing these Pick Up the Mic events and having all these people come out and actually ask questions, talk to people, do it in a compassionate way like Charlie did, actually try. 01:13:47 Speaker 7: And have conversations that lead to a good outcome. I mean, when I'm out there on the campus. 01:13:51 Speaker 6: And I have, like, there's a clip that you guys probably have seen of me talking to that one black girl on campus, and we're talking about racism. 01:13:57 Speaker 7: And at the end, she's agreeing with me. I mean, she was mad at me. But she's agreeing with me on these different points that I'm making. And that light bulb moment, and you're just like, dang, like, this is why we do this. 01:14:07 Speaker 6: You know, it's not because of some, we're trying to get these views or be like Charlie or, you know, step into these shoes. It's because we see the good work that happens on these campuses when someone's mind changes. You know, one of the best pieces of advice that Dennis Prager ever gave me when you guys were talking about only a couple people at some of these things, was to treat every speech like it's the most important speech of your life. 01:14:24 Speaker 7: Because you have no idea the people that you'll influence who are there. 01:14:27 Speaker 6: So the person who you talk to on the campus doing it, you have no idea where they'll go out, talk to other people, grassroots, change minds. 01:14:34 Speaker 7: I mean, it's truly a beautiful thing to be able to be out there and talk to these people. 01:14:38 Speaker 2: So tpsastudents.com, pick up the mic. tpsastudents.com, pick up the mic for that. Or just go to tpsa.com slash tours. If you want to get tickets to the college campus tour or get your students involved, your son or daughter, tpsa.com slash tours. Check it out. Thank you, Will Witt. Thank you, Andrew Seifer. That was awesome. We'll see you guys tomorrow. 01:15:00 Speaker 6: Thanks, guys. 01:15:04 Speaker 10: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.