"Not To My Knowledge"

00:00:03 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. 00:00:24 Speaker 2: College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. 00:00:27 Speaker 3: You should get married as. 00:00:28 Speaker 1: Young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA college chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. Here I am. 00:00:46 Speaker 2: Lord, use me. 00:00:48 Speaker 4: Buckle up, everybody. 00:00:49 Speaker 2: Here we go. 00:00:56 Speaker 1: Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of The Charlie Kirk Show. a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments.com. That is noblegoldinvestments.com. 00:01:17 Speaker 3: All right. Welcome, everybody. It's October 22nd, 2026, just days ahead of the 2026 midterm. So much news. Breaking. Blake is holding it down in Phoenix at the YRefi Studios. How are we doing, Blake? 00:01:31 Speaker 5: We're doing lovely, Andrew. 00:01:32 Speaker 3: Lots of news, lots of news. But first, we have a very special guest in studio with Blake. Unfortunately, I'm on assignment today, but Blake is holding it down being a good host. And that is Scott Cooper. He's the director of the United States Office of Personal Management at OPM. It is a huge, huge job. Scott, thank you for being in studio and visiting us in Phoenix. I'm sorry I can't be there in person with you. But Blake, as you've probably already realized, is a great host. Very hospitable, warm host. Thank you so much again, though, for coming. And you have so much going on in your world that you inhabit, that you're directing in Washington, and so many opportunities for young people. Of course, this comes after a U.S. senator... basically issued threats against young people coming to Washington. So the timing couldn't be better. But why don't we start with your job, your office, what you're doing, the initiatives that you are overseeing currently? 00:02:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely. 00:02:30 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, thanks for having me. And yes, Blake has been a fantastic host. We've been having coffee, doing all kinds of fun things. So it's great. So what do I do? What's the Office of Personnel Management? So the very simple way to think about it is we have responsibility for the 2 million civilian employees that basically show up in Health and Human Services, IRS, all your favorite three-letter agencies that you might be aware of. And our job is to make sure really two things. One is that we have the right talent so that we can actually deliver on behalf of the American people. And then two is that we have the appropriate culture and efficiency and other things to make sure that we can actually deliver for the American people without completely bankrupting our kids and grandkids. 00:03:05 Speaker 4: So those are the things we're focused on. 00:03:07 Speaker 5: I feel like efficiency is not a word you usually associate with government. But we talked to a journalist and analyst, Judge Glock, yesterday, and he was talking about that Actually, Doge, for example, did significantly streamline operations within the federal government. Are you seeing that progress work out for Americans every day? 00:03:27 Speaker 4: Yeah, we are. 00:03:29 Speaker 6: Your listeners may know this, but actually Doge oversaw kind of the largest reduction in headcount that we've had, I think, literally since World War II. I think that's right, yeah. So close to like 300,000 people left the government last year. That's about a 13%, 14% reduction in headcount. Um, and, and look, there's still 2 million people. So it's not as if like this thing is running on a shoestring. Um, but yeah, look, part of what we have to do now is we've got to take the work that Doge did and we've got to institutionalize it. So we're trying, you know, I use the term, we've got to make efficiency a first-class citizen in government. And this is not just about cutting stuff. It's about figuring out, okay, can we do more for the American people? But every time we want to do more, the answer shouldn't be, we go to Congress and we ask for more headcount. We ought to be able to use technology, use operational change, process change, you to be able to actually get more out of the people who are there. So that's a big part of what we're trying to do. 00:04:16 Speaker 3: Excellent. Excellent. Well, so listen, we've got some headlines here. U S government workforce shrinks by 12% since 2024. That's one 49. You can throw that up. Uh, one 50 U S federal workforce drops to lowest level in 60 years after Trump purged hundreds of thousands of employees, federal workforce numbers under Trump at lowest level since 1960. So it's, A little bit ironic in some ways that you're here with an opportunity, Mr. Director. So why don't you explain this very exciting initiative, especially for if you are at one of our students at our chapters across the country and you're interested in working in Washington, despite the threats levied against you by. Alyssa Slotkin. But it's a great opportunity, and I want our students especially to hear this. 00:05:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it is a great opportunity. And you're right. 00:05:06 Speaker 6: Look, what's really happening kind of under the covers here is we are reshaping the federal workforce. So yes, part of this is there was a lot of, obviously, reductions last year. But the fundamental challenge we have in the federal government is only 7% of our workforce is under the age of 30. So I'm guessing, I don't know, I'm guessing probably 90% of your listeners are under the age of 30 or something like that. Just so you have a comparison, in the total U.S. 00:05:28 Speaker 4: Workforce. 00:05:29 Speaker 6: about 23% of the workforce is under the age of 30. So that means the government has just whiffed by literally a factor of three to one. We've done a terrible job of going onto college campuses and telling people why they should come join the government. And notwithstanding, you know, Senator Slotkin's appeal that, you know, nobody should do that because, you know, they're going to put them all in jail. That's not at all the way we think about it. What we want is we want patriotic people who care about the future of this country, who are willing to say, hey, I'm not asking you to commit a 40-year career, by the way. I'm saying, hey, come spend two years Come work on some of the hardest, most complex, most interesting problems. And then, by the way, if you decide you want to go to the private sector, you want to go to the nonprofit sector, all the skills you develop in the federal government are going to be perfectly generalizable to that. 00:06:08 Speaker 4: So even if you. 00:06:09 Speaker 5: Do stay long term, we need that, too, because we've seen why it does. Why was the bureaucracy often so left wing, even in Trump one, even in Trump two today? It's because it is filled up with so many committed ideologue career people. And we need people who have a conservative disposition to be in the federal government because it can stop that from happening. 00:06:28 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I think that's a fair point. And look, fundamentally, we need people who love this country, who believe in the Constitution, who are saying, hey, look, I actually want to be part of the solution to the problems. And the other thing we just need is, look, we need fresh thinking, right? So part of the problem of having only 7% of your workforce that's early career is you just don't have new ideas. You don't have things going on. I'll tell you a quick story. So when I first got there, one of my managers said, you're ruining everything. And I was like, wow, that's an interesting way to kind of start a conversation. And I said, well, tell me more. She said, well, you're ruining everything because our whole pitch to people has been come to the federal government and you have a permanent job for the next 40 years. And I said to her, I said, look, you're not going to like me anymore when you hear my response, but that is the worst pitch I've ever heard to an 18 to 26-year-old, right? Like, look, you all know this demographic better than anybody, but I've got kids in this demographic. I guarantee you they're not thinking about 40-year careers. And so we have to kind of dispel this notion that You make a decision at the age of 22, and that's what you do. And exactly to your point, if you love being in the federal government and you want to contribute, great, we'd love to have you. If you decide you want to do it for some period of time and then you want to go do other things or you want to come back at a later date, all that is goodness. 00:07:37 Speaker 4: And we've got to just stop. 00:07:38 Speaker 6: This silly dichotomy that, Like, there's a path to take in life, and, you know, that's totally one-directional. 00:07:44 Speaker 5: Yeah, so we, well, you say there's a lot of these opportunities out there for young people, but that's because they'll kind of go over their head. They aren't thinking, is that for me? What are maybe specific roles that a lot of young people have where they actually should be thinking, I should go apply to the federal government? 00:08:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, so here's, again, I think this is great. Here's, I think, the misnomer. 00:08:03 Speaker 6: So there's people, you know, we're spending some time at ASU today, and I'm sure they have a public policy program, so those people know what the government jobs are. But I think what people forget is the government is the single largest employer, whether we like that or not, it's true. And so every single job that exists in a company exists in the government. So what we're hiring for are HR people, financial analysts, program managers, IT people, security people. There's a whole law enforcement set of folks who work in government. So yes, it's great if you want to do policy stuff, and we'd love to have you. At the end of the day, though, every single job that you might do as part of your broad career, you can do that in the federal government. And that's really the critical area where we're really trying to get people excited. 00:08:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's so many questions here too, and I love what Blake was drilling down on is getting more specifics. It's like if you are a college, you're about to graduate, or by the way, Director Cooper, we have something called communities, which is a bunch of young professionals, our alums that we need to get this out to. 00:08:57 Speaker 1: Immediately. 00:08:58 Speaker 3: Let's start there. Where do people go to apply? Where can they go? Let's just start dropping the URL right now. 00:09:04 Speaker 7: Awesome. 00:09:04 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:09:04 Speaker 4: So everybody go to earlycareers.gov. 00:09:07 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:09:07 Speaker 6: Earlycareers.gov. Really easy to find it. You register there. And then let me give you a real call to action. On October 29th, which I think is literally a week from today, or maybe even less than a week from today, we are doing the first ever cross-government, I'll call it a hire-a-palooza, for lack of a better word. We're going to have 16 agencies who are literally going to use an online campaign, and do online interviews with folks, and we're going to make job offers on the spot on October 29th. 00:09:31 Speaker 5: Whoa, that's awesome. 00:09:33 Speaker 3: Wow. All right. That's fantastic. I mean, we've got to get this out to our whole network, and we're going to work on that. 00:09:39 Speaker 4: Thank you. 00:09:40 Speaker 3: So we've got the URL up there, earlycareers.gov. 00:09:45 Speaker 8: So that's what I'm saying. 00:09:46 Speaker 9: I wanna look at these signature cases and not just focus on the president, but on the people who enabled him. I want young people coming out of school to say, should I go work for the Trump administration? 00:09:57 Speaker 8: Like, that sounds fun. I might get an opportunity. 00:10:00 Speaker 9: I want them to be like, Lord, that might be buying myself a ton of problems that I don't want. And so let me avoid participating in that. I want that deterrence message. 00:10:12 Speaker 3: That's Alyssa Slotkin from Michigan, former CIA. I'm sure that's fine. Um, Scott, director of. 00:10:21 Speaker 4: The– As you guys know, by the way, she says she didn't. 00:10:23 Speaker 5: Say that, obviously, but I'm glad you guys– I hate it when they say things– when they don't say things that are on video. 00:10:29 Speaker 3: And then they say they didn't. Exactly. That's literally Scott Jennings' whole job on CNN, by the way. 00:10:34 Speaker 4: I know, I know. He does a good job. 00:10:36 Speaker 3: It's funny. Yeah, so director of the U.S. OPM office, huge, huge responsibility. So here you have a sitting U.S. senator, Scott. Director Cooper, and she's saying, hey, I want this deterrence. Young people don't come to Washington, and here you are on our show, and you are saying the exact opposite. So what is your response? 00:10:55 Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I put a tweet out this morning on it. My advice to early career folks is listen to your mother, don't listen to Alyssa Slotkin, and actually go. 00:11:03 Speaker 2: Get a real job. 00:11:05 Speaker 6: But in all honesty, look, I think it's just totally irresponsible. And look, I get it, obviously. Everything in D.C. is political, so it's very hard to get away from that. But at the end of the day, The idea that you don't want young people who actually care about this country coming to work for the country, like I just can't imagine a, you know, a worse message. And again, I know, you know, she wants to politicize this and saying this is just kind of, you know, that, you know, everything that President Trump touches, unfortunately, she doesn't think is good. But the point is, at the end of the day, if you are an American citizen, do you want young, smart people who actually care about this country working on your behalf? and doing so in a way that actually delivers like appropriate goods and services to the American people. I just don't understand how that's political. I don't understand how you can argue with that. And so, yes, my answer to everybody in your audience is do what's right for you and your career, which is help your country and actually help build your skill set. Don't be scared away by people who are trying to dissuade you from doing what I think is actually one of the highest callings anybody can do. 00:12:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree. And for people who don't understand, Washington is staffed. by predominantly young people between the ages of 22 and 30 or 35. So if you are listening to this and you feel called to serve your country, to step into the breach, I mean, it sounds like you're never going to have a better opportunity than, what did you say, October 29th? 00:12:27 Speaker 6: October 29th is the first of these, and we're going to do a bunch of them. And just to put a pin on it, right, so the president has put out a goal for us that we have now kind of relayed to all the different agencies. And what he said is, I want a third– of every new hire in the federal government to be early career. And again, to give you a sense of what that means on average, depending on the year, the government hires, let's call it a hundred thousand people a year. So you're literally talking 30 plus thousand people who could have an opportunity to come serve their government. Um, and you all know this, I'm sure you read the headlines every day. Everybody's bemoaning the fact that, you know, kind of unemployment rates for, you know, you know, younger and early career folks are not great. Um, There is no better opportunity if you actually want to develop a skill set than to actually take advantage of this opportunity that the government is providing for you. 00:13:09 Speaker 5: Yeah, especially 100%. The nature of the federal government is transforming a lot. This administration is aggressively embracing AI or super intelligence, as he calls it, which means you'll be on the ground floor of a new federal government that's getting created, lots of new skills. I'm looking at your recent grad presentation. page. Let's throw up that URL again. Earlycareers.gov. Don't forget the S. On October 29th, they're doing mass interviews. You said during the break you were hoping to hire how many people? 00:13:41 Speaker 6: We're hoping on this one day to get close to 500 people literally hired. The goal is apply to earlycareers.gov. We have 16 different agencies who are going to review applications ahead of October 29th. We're going to use some, I won't mention the vendor because I don't know enough about it, but we're using some cool outside vendor to basically do virtual interviews with people. And then our goal is to literally give job offers on the spot on October 29th to people who qualify. 00:14:04 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm looking through some of the jobs that pop up when you go through this portal. It's all sorts of stuff. Do you want to be a pediatric dentist in Gallup, New Mexico? $ 107, 000 starting per year if you have that. You're hiring law clerks who can be converted to full-time attorneys at the IRS. So if you're getting a JD or LLM, a lot of human resources specialists. We have an insulator. Someone can get hired as an insulator if that's your skill set. IT, psychologist, blind rehabilitation, all of these great jobs. 00:14:38 Speaker 6: And you mentioned it, by the way, and I think it's really important for people to know, every single job is not in D.C. So in fact, only about 12, 13% of the federal government actually jobs are in D.C. So you saw this one in New Mexico. This is not, for most people, if you don't want to be in D.C., I get it. That's totally fine. So look for your local location, basically. Almost all these federal jobs actually are being done in field offices that are all over the place. The other thing I want to mention, if I could, if we have one more second, is it's one thing to obviously recruit people. The question then is like, what does the government look like when they get there? And as you all mentioned, a huge portion of what we've been doing is reforming the federal government process. So I'll give you just a quick stat. So historically, everybody got an A in the federal government. So, you know, we're here near a college campus. Great inflation, obviously, is always a fun topic. And the problem with everybody getting an A is that means like there's no incentive for people who are super hardworking to actually like do what they're doing, right? Because if you excel, you're treated no differently than anyone else. So for the first time this year, actually, we have a forced curve now in the federal government on employee ratings. So no more than 40% of people in the federal government can be actually rated, you know, in the top group. And that's still, quite frankly, it's a big number, but historically that number was like 70, 80%, which is crazy. But the whole point of this is if you are a smart, diligent, like young person, you're going to come into an environment where when you exceed and success, you are going to be like fantastically rewarded. You're going to move through the organization. We actually just eliminated a big impediment for a long time, which is you had to sit in the job for 12 months before you would even be considered for promotion. It's called time and grade for those of you who are nerdy inside baseball people. We eliminated that completely. So if you come in and after three months, if you are not going to cover off the ball, you could be promoted within three months in the federal government. That has never been done before. And those are the kinds of people we want. People who are like, hey, if I go do like phenomenal work, I'm going to get rewarded and recognized and paid for that. 00:16:25 Speaker 5: That's, that's incredible. Cause I just, I know people who have lateral than the reputation, certainly in the Obama years, it's that you were, you were charging hard in the private sector and you saw a federal government, Oh, this is where you could lateral and you could work 35 hours a week, maybe get all this vacation time. And yeah, it made it a very cushy mid-career job, but it was not very good for the American people. Got you a bloated, expensive workforce that was really non-responsive. 00:16:50 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:16:50 Speaker 4: So this is what we're trying to do. Yeah, exactly right. 00:16:52 Speaker 6: I mean, if we're going to get great people there, they have to walk into an environment that looks like working for an organization like this or working for a private sector organization where when you do well, you get moved through the organization. Look, obviously, the federal government can only pay what the federal government can pay. But part of the pay problem is actually because we mislevel people and we have these arbitrary rules, which is, hey, if you don't have five years worth of work experience, you can only come in at level one instead of level five. We're also eliminating all of that stuff, basically. And so everything is going to be merit-based. If you are good and you demonstrate performance, you will get paid appropriate for that, and then you will actually get promoted consistent with that as well. 00:17:26 Speaker 3: Well, this is fantastic news, and we're going to get this out to our entire network, Director Cooper. 00:17:31 Speaker 2: Thank you. 00:17:32 Speaker 3: It sounds like you are doing phenomenal work transforming the way that we hire, the way that we promote, the way that we incentivize the federal workforce. So if you hear this, young patriots out in the country, And you're worried about AI stealing your jobs. Well, there's a huge boon happening right now at the federal government. It could be just the perfect opportunity for you. Thank you so much for your time. I want to ask you something. How long have you been putting off plans to buy a home because of mortgage rates? I understand why you might be hesitant, but... What if the opportunity you're waiting for looks different than you expect? 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I prefer drugs are Sarah. That's cool. Like, I mean, that's that's a that's a really cool name. 00:19:14 Speaker 8: Hi, Blake. Hi, Andrew. Thank you so much. 00:19:16 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:19:17 Speaker 10: Well, you know, what's so cool about it is that we actually have a president. that allows us to do the job that we need to do to save American lives. 00:19:24 Speaker 8: And that's what we're doing. 00:19:25 Speaker 10: And that's the big success story of the Trump administration and President Trump. We are watching the numbers of overdose deaths decrease by over 40%. That's 44,000 American. 00:19:39 Speaker 8: Lives saved since the height of the crisis. 00:19:43 Speaker 10: We are seeing those numbers go into continuous decline. So I feel blessed to be a part of this administration, to be a part of what I see as America's recovery, America's common sense initiatives, and our children are benefiting that and future generations. 00:20:03 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:20:03 Speaker 3: So the question then becomes, because I actually covered this on the show this week, fentanyl ODs are dropping. The fentanyl flowing into the country is falling off a cliff. This is one of the unsung, truly unsung aspects of what President Trump and this administration has accomplished. So the question then becomes, how did you guys accomplish this? I mean, because it's historic and people need to know about it. 00:20:28 Speaker 8: Well, we did it through our national drug control strategy. 00:20:31 Speaker 10: Our Homeland Task Force is Homeland Security Task Forces, as well as our HIDAs. Under the Office of National Drug Control Policy, I oversee the high-intensity drug trafficking areas. Those are our HIDA teams, 33 regional HIDA teams across the country, all working together with our HSTFs. 00:20:54 Speaker 8: In an effort to target the drug cartels. 00:20:56 Speaker 10: We're targeting them both internationally and nationally, so meaning the Western hemisphere is being protected. 00:21:05 Speaker 8: That's the Don Roe Doctrine. 00:21:06 Speaker 10: That's what you hear about when the president or the vice president talk about what we're doing in the United States. And we're working together as a whole of government. So for example, I work closely with Burke Rawlins, Secretary Rawlins. I work with Secretary Kennedy, Secretary Turner. Pete Hegseth and the Department of War, we're not operating in silos. We're working together, and together we are a unifying force. Stephen Miller, who's working from the White House, who has been emphatically involved in working with the Homeland. 00:21:40 Speaker 8: Security Task Forces. 00:21:41 Speaker 10: This is what's so important, is that we are all on the same page. We are not fighting each other on this. We want our nation clean and clear of the cartels. And first and foremost, to protect the national security of our country. 00:21:57 Speaker 8: That is our children. That's our future. That's what's important to us. And we're doing it that way. 00:22:02 Speaker 10: I was in Argentina recently with Administrator Terry Cole at the International Drug Enforcement Conference. 00:22:09 Speaker 8: And delivered the U.S. 00:22:10 Speaker 10: Speech along with Terry Cole to our international partners all over the world. 00:22:15 Speaker 8: Because this is a global issue. We are going to smash the cartels, Andrew. We are going to destroy them. 00:22:22 Speaker 10: They have spent over 50 years taking the lives of Americans, of our children. 00:22:28 Speaker 8: And I want to just preface this with, you know, I remember talking to Charlie right as I found out I got this position. 00:22:38 Speaker 10: And, you know, the issue of fentanyl and the rise of deaths in the United States at its highest point It was over 112,000 under President Biden. 00:22:48 Speaker 8: That is American deaths. That's overdoses and poisonings due to fentanyl. 00:22:53 Speaker 10: And I remember Charlie saying, you know, if there's anyone that can do this, it's got to be President Trump. President Trump working with you, working with everyone else to save our children's lives and how. 00:23:04 Speaker 8: Much that meant to him, right? As a father, I'm a mother. I have six children. I have grandchildren. 00:23:10 Speaker 10: I want their future to be safe. I want them to be protected. 00:23:15 Speaker 8: And as the drugs are, you know, as the drugs are, I oversee all the 18 agencies and a nearly $ 44 billion. 00:23:24 Speaker 10: Budget that is designated to the national security of this country. That means from health and human services to the Department of War and ensuring that that money is being. 00:23:35 Speaker 8: Allocated appropriately and following the. 00:23:37 Speaker 10: National strategy that President Trump has put in place. That's why you're seeing lives saved, because we're not taking it anymore. 00:23:46 Speaker 8: We're working now with the ACCC. 00:23:48 Speaker 10: We have allies across the Western hemisphere that have joined us, like the recently elected president of Colombia, President de la Esprea. 00:23:57 Speaker 8: I was at his inauguration with A.G. Blanch. We were able to get there to speak with him. 00:24:03 Speaker 10: He wants to eradicate the cartels too, because it is a problem for his nation. 00:24:07 Speaker 8: So we're getting everybody on board. This is the president's Don Roe doctrine. This is why we're doing this, and we're saving American lives. 00:24:15 Speaker 3: So I'm reading here that youth drug use is at historic lows. So we haven't seen this decline in illegal drug use among young Americans since 1992. That's right. What is driving that trend exactly? 00:24:36 Speaker 10: Children are seeing the lie behind the use of drugs. 00:24:40 Speaker 8: Americans are seeing it. 00:24:41 Speaker 10: You're never going to be your fullest potential if you're using, if you're addicted. They watched as their friends died over the last decade, even. 00:24:52 Speaker 8: More than a decade. 00:24:53 Speaker 10: They watched as young people in their universities, friends of theirs, collapsed dead, thinking they were taking an Adderall, purchasing it online, and then only to find out their parents find out that they have died and that they have. 00:25:07 Speaker 8: To, you know, now their lives have been turned upside down. 00:25:09 Speaker 10: Communities have been turned upside down. They see the lie when they look at Kensington, you know, in Philadelphia, and people are toppled over on the streets. 00:25:17 Speaker 8: They're bent over. 00:25:18 Speaker 10: They're living in their own feces. There's vomit. 00:25:23 Speaker 8: There's children walking around kicking needles out of the way. You know, Americans, we are not stupid. 00:25:29 Speaker 10: For me, Andrew, this is, almost as if you could say irregular warfare, right? We had poison and had so much poison being dumped in our country that for a while there, it was almost too late when we realized what was actually going on. We saw addiction rise with the pharmaceutical giants, with opioids. And finally, when we got a hold of that and stopped those pill mills in the U.S., the cartels were already bringing in the heroin. We had the Juarez cartel then CJNG was bringing in heroin and feeding that supply chain, feeding that addiction. 00:26:07 Speaker 8: And then we saw. 00:26:08 Speaker 10: Others across the globe, pharmaceutical laboratories in China, pushing precursor chemicals into Mexico. And then those precursor chemicals were being used to create these fentanyl pills, these blue pills that were pushed. 00:26:23 Speaker 8: All over our streets. And before we knew it, People, Americans were dying. 00:26:27 Speaker 10: Communities like in Ohio, you know, were seeing coroner's offices were being filled up with bodies. Young people were losing their lives. And look, to me, we still have so much more work to do. This is a huge success for President Trump because this is 45,000 more people that are alive today. 00:26:44 Speaker 8: But younger people are seeing through the lies. You know, we talk about freedom. We talk about the importance of freedom in our nation, right? 00:26:52 Speaker 10: And how amazing it is to live in a country that is so absolutely beautiful, where liberty and freedom is essential to everyone. 00:26:59 Speaker 8: Where, by the way, frankly, people from all over the. 00:27:01 Speaker 10: World, including my mother, who was a Cuban immigrant to this country in the late 1960s, want to be a part of this beautiful, great republic, right? 00:27:11 Speaker 8: We talk about that. But imagine now being addicted to drugs. You know, you're shackled. 00:27:17 Speaker 10: You no longer have freedom. All you're thinking about is when am I going to get that next hit? When am I going to get, you know, that next high? And that's the message that kids are hearing. They're like, I don't want my life to be that way anymore. I don't want to see what happened to me, my grandparents or my parents. 00:27:36 Speaker 8: I don't want to be that person. And in our office, we work very closely. 00:27:39 Speaker 10: We have a program, a grant program that works with drug-free communities across the United States. So we work very closely with our youth, and we ensure that they have a voice in their own future. 00:27:54 Speaker 8: And I'm working very closely with them on. 00:27:56 Speaker 10: A campaign, which we're so excited about, and hopefully we're going to roll out next fall. That's what's important. I think it's important to let our children know and let the American people know that we have not forgotten you. You are the front lines of this battle. If we are going to win as a federal government, as a nation, against the cartels and against those that want to poison us, we have to work together. 00:28:23 Speaker 8: And that is the most important message that I can deliver. Please pay attention to your children. Please pay attention to what they're doing. And work together. You're the front line of this fight. 00:28:34 Speaker 5: There's this story, it's in Fox News, and maybe it's a little bit of fear-mongering, but they say there's a new super fentanyl. They're saying in shorthand it's ten times as powerful as fentanyl, which we already know has killed hundreds of thousands of Americans. In one minute here, what do people need to know about this drug, and is the administration taking action against it? 00:28:55 Speaker 8: We are absolutely taking an action against it. It's like chlorophene. It's part of a class of orphans that are very dangerous. It's 10 times. 00:29:04 Speaker 10: More powerful, yes, than fentanyl, up to 10 times more powerful than fentanyl. And we're taking action just before President Xi from China arrived to meet with President Trump. they actually scheduled the entire class of orphans in China. 00:29:18 Speaker 8: We were fighting for that. Our office was ahead of the curve on that. 00:29:22 Speaker 10: We got China to schedule orphans as an entire class. And we put export controls on two major precursors used. 00:29:31 Speaker 8: To make fentanyl. And we have a message. 00:29:34 Speaker 10: And we've been very clear. We're happy with what China did there. But more needs to be done. Our message is keep that supply chain clean. We're staying ahead of you and we're staying ahead of emerging threats. 00:29:45 Speaker 3: Sarah Carter, the drug czar, doing great work, an unsung aspect of the Trump administration. Hear it loudly. It is unsung no more. I hope you guys are internalizing Just how incredible that is. So Sarah Carter comes in. She kind of helps coordinate $ 40 billion in spending across our government on national security, stopping drug deaths, and 45,000 Americans are alive today, according to her estimates. I've seen some numbers say it's as high as 60,000. That's huge. And all that is is coming in with common sense, getting rid of the wokeness, being harsh on immigration. People don't like that. It's too mean or whatever. Well, guess what's mean? Allowing hundreds of thousands of Americans to die from drug overdoses. Humane immigration policies from the Democrats doesn't exist. It's a farce. It's a ruse. Humane is making sure people aren't dying from drugs and getting poisoned. So anyways, congratulations to her. Yeah, go ahead. 00:30:48 Speaker 5: I just want to throw out that number, like 45,000 in basically a year. So that could end up being 200,000 saved lives by the end of a four-year term. Like, we lost 7,000 troops in the entire war on terror, Iraq and Afghanistan. We lost about 35,000 troops in Korea. We lost 58,000 troops in Vietnam. So even a couple years of resolving the opioid crisis is going to save more lives than if we'd avoided major wars in American history. Like, every war since World War II, probably, by the end of this administration. 00:31:20 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it's incredibly, it's incredibly, it's just, it's heartening. Because it reminds me of the border. You can't fix the border. You've got to go to Latin America. You've got to invest all these billions and trillions of dollars into Latin America. Make those countries good so they won't come. You can't fix this. You can't fix this. Oh, it turns out you can. It turns out you can fix really hard problems because they're actually pretty simple. You have to do common sense things. And guess what? Results will follow. So it's just– I love that story. And if we give the Democrats power again, folks, you're just– you're going to unleash these whores on America– Once again, so let's just keep voting for common sense. I get it. You're frustrated with gas prices. I'm sick of saying all that stuff. Those are going to come down. OK, gas prices are going to come down. Give it some time. Everything's going to be fine. Got a breaking news story this morning out of Portsmouth, Virginia, where the FBI raided the office of Virginia Senate President pro tempore Luis Lucas, Luis Lucas. A Democrat and close ally of Virginia Governor Spanberger. So then after the raids, she was arrested by the feds and is now in federal custody. She's charged with drug trafficking. Felt a little bit related to our past segments. I wanted to get to it. Money laundering, fraud, and firearms charges. So apparently she was recorded on a phone call. saying, this is our last chance at generational wealth. I've got too old to not be greedy. And they got her. I mean, and this lady is a real peach. Blake can fill you in more, but it couldn't have happened to a nicer person, could it, Blake? No. What is she, 82? And she's like being alleged of crimes. It's basically a drug pen. out of Virginia. 00:33:16 Speaker 5: Exactly. It's, you know, she was basically, she was getting it. She was getting in position to obviously essentially be a marijuana trafficker. And then also on the law side, lobbying to make it more legal. But what it was always very obvious that the left for years, they've made this process as they made it easier to sell weed. They were also saying, like they could basically treat it as a form of reparations. Like let's traffic in the licenses. Don't just make it a feeding frenzy. Give it to specific groups. They sold it as a form of racial equity. And I think she's one of several people who seem to have exploited this. And that makes it one of the darkest things imaginable because what it essentially turned into is we pivoted from, we should have laws to protect America's urban communities, poor communities, black communities from drugs to, oh, it's actually reparations for us to deliberately target those communities with drugs. 00:34:11 Speaker 3: True lunacy, true darkness. 00:34:14 Speaker 5: And according to a friend of mine who's in Virginia politics, he says, absolute open secret that she's been involved in this for ages. So it's really, thank God the FBI took a look. We're seeing that with the Ilhan Omar thing as well. Something everyone knows is going on. Someone with the power to make an arrest finally decided to look at it. 00:34:33 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, this has been an open secret and she's been using her political power, especially in the state of Virginia, her alliances, her relationship with the governor to essentially shield herself from this. And she thought she could get away with this with impunity. She's still defiant because, of course, 82 year old great grandmother that is playing the race card anyways. It says today the FBI, the Department of Justice and the full weight of the federal government have wielded against an 82 year old great grandmother i grew up under jim crow i've seen what happens when people in power try to silence those who stand up to them i spent my life fighting back and i'm not stopping now i'm not new to this i'm true to this i wish you think she's maya angelo too i will not be intimidated i will not be bullied and i will not back down. 00:35:24 Speaker 5: I'm really okay I think I'm trying to, my, my brain is firing off. I'm like, is I'm not new to this. I'm true to this, that, uh, that could either be like extremely funny AI generated text, but I don't think it is. I think that's totally a line. She's probably used before, probably uses all the time. It just, she thinks it's like this rhetorical kill shot and, ah. 00:35:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's not. 00:35:48 Speaker 10: Yeah. 00:35:48 Speaker 3: And she, by the way, she, I think she does sort of have the loyalties almost like a mafiosa, like a, like a crime boss, uh, in her area, because this story's been percolating for a while. I've looked into this gal before, and she's a piece of work. She really is. She is the essence of corruption, and she's shrouded in this sort of Jim Crow racial virtue signaling that she thinks is going to carry the day and see her through. The problem is, I think they got her dead to rights, and she was very, very brazen. You can see this tweet responding to Ted Cruz, when we were going through the whole redistricting fight in Virginia, and Ted Cruz said, a brazen abuse of power and an insult to democracy. 47% of Virginia voted Trump. They get just 9% of the seats. 52% of Virginians voted for Harris. Now they get 91% of the seats. And she fired back, y'all started it, and we, blank pejorative word, finished it. So she's a defiant, angry black woman who, who thinks that she can get away with anything as long as she shrouds herself in the language of civil rights activism. Or a couple swear words here. 00:37:02 Speaker 5: I will just be. 00:37:03 Speaker 3: She has to understand that era is done. 00:37:05 Speaker 5: Yeah, I will be very glad, like... I mean, I guess we're going to see the sequel to it where people will just say, like, I grew up the grandchild of people who were under Jim Crow or whatever, but we've had... It's really sad. We've had an entire generation... of politicians who've been flagrantly corrupt and they've just trafficked in like Jim Crow scaremongering and exploiting the memory of the civil rights movement to just get away with the most flagrant behavior imaginable. And they're finally aging out of the system. And hopefully we can get some better politicians out of it because for a long time, they've been some of our most corrupt, most hard to remove, like the worst barnacles in our state and federal government. And the black community, for one, serves better. 00:37:48 Speaker 3: Great word for it. Yeah, you know, and you think about El-Sayed, who had a debate last night. We're going to cover that in the next hour with Mike Rogers. And the black community is revolting, at least in some, some part, significant part, against the Democrat Party. They're not going to just go and vote party line necessarily. You've got to win that vote now, the further away we get from civil rights era. By the end of the year, more than 60,000 babies will have been saved by pre-born centers. Just this year, 60,000 babies. And for every baby who's saved, there's a mom who's saved from a lifetime of pain and regret. Take a stand for life by providing an ultrasound for a young woman. 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Well, I guess he stood, but he was essentially practicing his golf swing in the middle of the game. 00:39:30 Speaker 7: Of it. 00:39:30 Speaker 3: Is it the WNBA not standing for the National Anthem? Is it Call Her Daddy? Is it El Sayed? Is it his PHPAI vulnerability that's affecting, apparently, banks and all kinds of things? 00:39:43 Speaker 5: You know, I actually want to throw out that one quick, because I don't know if we can talk about it at length, but I actually... I encourage you guys to go online, read about what's happening with cybersecurity. I messaged my family this morning. I just said, guys, make sure you have two-factor authorization on any bank you have, anything that has access to your money, anything that's important to you. Just be ready because if you're aware, if you're an expert, the experts in cybersecurity basically say they're going through the biggest security crisis in their lifetimes. It's happening right now. Nothing catastrophic has happened yet. But if you are ready, you will be far more prepared than most people will because it's not getting talked about a lot. So just throwing that out there for people. 00:40:27 Speaker 3: It's a huge, huge, I would say, news story that, to Blake's point, is probably not going to get talked about enough. But this is– a lot of people are saying this could be sort of the beginning of the new normal where these– AI bots are dispatched. Some are saying China's behind it. But wherever it's coming from, these AI bots are getting very, very effective at infiltrating very, I would say, important infrastructure that's also consumer-based. This isn't just government-based infrastructure. So please, please, please look into that. And we'll get some experts on this week to talk more about it and see what you can do to defend yourself and take precautions. But I mean, when the NSA is putting out Tweets saying that PHP, about 70% of websites have this vulnerability and use PHP. Okay, you've got to take note. I think that tweet is like 11 million, 12 million people have seen that. It went viral. 00:41:24 Speaker 5: Another one that's remarkable, the Prime Minister of Japan's office tweeted out that people in Japan should take certain websites offline, and they did that at 5.30 in the morning Japan time. And I think that's a good sign. This is not something you should sit around on. The people who are professionals are freaking out about it. And so we just encourage all of you, if you take even a little bit of preparation, you will be a lot safer compared to a lot of people. And so we would encourage you all. 00:41:52 Speaker 3: To do that. And then this comes as Axios reports, unvetted AI agents are accessing U.S. bank accounts. Major U.S. banks are detecting unauthorized third party AI agents. operating inside customer accounts with some agents attempting to take actions that appear to be independent of user instructions, okay? So you might be familiar with stuff like Grokbot, right? Where you could say, hey, go cancel my subscription. Hey, what's my balance on my account? So you send these AI agents out into the internet to go do work for you. You give them a command, they're supposed to be able to do it, but they need your login credentials. Well, they're saying these are third-party AI agents operating inside customer accounts taking actions outside of what you, the user, the consumer, and the client want them to do. So this could be extremely dangerous in the future, and we need to start thinking really, really hard about it. All right, let's get to another story here while we're kind of running through these, and we're going to get deep into Ilhan Omar in just a few minutes. We're going to bring in Will Chamberlain, who's been studying. He's a lawyer. He's been studying it. So this is El-Sayed. was in a debate last night with Mike Rogers. Now, Mike Rogers is a guy, and I said this earlier in the week, I didn't have high hopes for him, to be perfectly honest, as a candidate for U.S. Senate. I thought maybe a little too neocon, a little too old, El-Sayed, younger, quicker on his feet. I was worried. But I will tell you that he is holding him to account on this Muslim Brotherhood. He's holding him account on all of these links that his family has. to the Muslim Brotherhood. This guy, I genuinely am convinced, this is not just electioneering, this is not just politicking as usual. I'm genuinely convinced that where there is this much smoke, there is absolutely fire, and the reason that this guy is not able to give one word answers when it comes to condemning the Muslim Brotherhood, care, all of this stuff, the Ayatollah, is because he's actually a true believer. You know, he has been speaking and doing events at a Detroit Islamic Center that is basically a hotbed for radicalization. His sister is on record. His mother apparently is on record as being connected to the Muslim Brotherhood. This man obviously harbors deep emotional ties. And here's what's interesting. So he was asked last night whether or not he would pack the Supreme Court. And here's his answer. Stop 14. 00:44:19 Speaker 10: Congressman Rogers, are you in favor of expanding the U.S. 00:44:23 Speaker 8: Supreme Court? Yes or no? 00:44:24 Speaker 10: No. 00:44:25 Speaker 3: Dr. 00:44:26 Speaker 8: El-Sayed, same question to you. Are you in favor of expanding the U.S. Supreme Court, yes or no? 00:44:30 Speaker 4: Yes, but fairly. 00:44:32 Speaker 5: Ah, but fairly. 00:44:35 Speaker 3: Almost gave an answer. Yeah, this is like Hillary Clinton says she wants to expand the Supreme Court to 13 justices, but only when the Democrats are in power, because it's all about fairness. But let's just really quick on Abdul El-Sayed. Abdul said he's an immigrant from North Africa. He said he's a dual citizen with Egypt. Then he denies it. The Muslim Brotherhood issued a statement congratulating him on his primary victory. Oh, that's interesting. He has donors who are members of the Muslim Brotherhood. Abdul wrote an op-ed in the Huffington Post urging Americans to support the Muslim Brotherhood if they took over Egypt. His sister tweeted out that their mother belonged to the Muslim Brotherhood. He's justified and sympathized with terrorist attacks at a synagogue in Michigan. On Morning Joe, he called Israel bloodthirsty. He won't acknowledge Israel's right to exist. And on and on it goes. He won't disavow Hassan Piker. He has been given multiple opportunities for yes or no answers on all of these fronts. And he's not able to. But when you ask him if he's pro-supporting packing the Supreme Court, yes. And then he had to add, with fairness. But it proves he can answer a yes or no question. The fact that he is not doing that when it comes to very easy layups... is because he's actually sympathetic to the larger Islamic goal of conquering Western civilization. I mean, I know that sounds maybe too intense for some of you, but that's actually what it is. He is sympathetic to forces that are fundamentally anti-American, anti-West, and I genuinely believe he hates this country. He hates what it is. Maybe he loves what he thinks he can turn it into. But this race is incredibly important to circle on the map. Because if the socialists, if the jihadists, if the third worldists, if they think that they can win a swing state like Michigan, which is Democrat tilt, nevertheless, if he can win there, it will be no holds barred moving forward. They will run these people in every single state across this nation, and the radicalizing elements of the far left will have a field day. So watch that race. Donate to Mike Rogers. I don't say that about every race. But we should absolutely do that. I'm going to give honorable mention to this non-bombshell, Blake. There is a story, if you woke up this morning, about Lindsey Graham. And that is their new cause du jour. The Young Turks, they had this big bombshell that was going to be released. And it's about Lindsey Graham. They were saying it was going to upset the Senate race. It's almost like they're just. 00:47:15 Speaker 5: Dumping it out here. They're just dumping it out here. Lindsey Graham... is dead, died abruptly. Maybe they were really disappointed when that happened, but it's like, it's ugly form to try to trash a person who can't defend. 00:47:29 Speaker 3: Themselves in this way. Yeah. So they're alleging that he was gay and that he hired sex workers and one of them was underage. Obviously, if that's true, I find it despicable, but he's dead. And if you're going to try and implicate in some way, Darlene Graham, because you don't want her to win the Senate race, I think that's scummy. So all you Democrats that think that the Vivek Ramaswamy ad was such low form, such bad form, you know, look in the mirror. OK, my goodness. OK, so Lindsey Graham, we all knew he was gay. We called him Lady Graham on this show repeatedly. Charlie called him Lady Graham. This is the biggest nothing burger ever. And for you to go out there and promote it like it was some bombshell that was going to it was going to be. The only thing America talked about for the next week. No, it's not. 00:48:18 Speaker 7: Okay? 00:48:19 Speaker 3: It's just low class. It's bad form. It's scummy. And you know what? I'm not the hugest Darlene Graham fan, but at least she wanted to end the recess, the September recess. She wanted to get back to work. President Trump's out there stumping for her. She is so clearly and obviously better than the alternative. She just got my support in a major way. Go Darlene Graham. Screw these people. All right. Breaking news here. It looks like Senator Vance was at a rally and a gentleman or gentlewoman, I'm not sure actually, had some sort of medical emergency medical issue come up. He enters the crowd and then leads the attendees in the Lord's prayer. And this happened in Nebraska at his rally just moments ago. So, I mean, that's pretty, pretty amazing actually that he did that. And, um, I'm reminded of Charlie's Memorial when J.D. Vance was reading. I was backstage, and I was watching his script that would go up on the teleprompter, and I watched as he went off script to talk about how he talked about Jesus more in the last two weeks than he had in his entire public life up until that point. And, you know, then obviously he issued He wrote that book about his own faith journey, was inspired to finish it, had been working on it for years, inspired to finish it after Charlie's murder. And so that's just a beautiful moment and good for him. Very, very proud to be a supporter of his and a fan of his and a friend of his. When he does things like that, it makes us all so proud. So I hope that person's okay. And God bless him. Speaking of which, Blake, on the Charlie front, we do have an update. This is the problem with today. There's just too many updates, too much news. 00:50:07 Speaker 5: There's a lot going on. And this isn't a great update. I assume it's about the hearing tomorrow, which at long last, obviously, we had the preliminary hearing. It was in July. And then they had the conclusion to the preliminary hearing in September. We're finally to the hearing where they're supposed to set the trial date. So far, we've been pretty fortunate to have... live broadcast of all the proceedings, which we've consistently argued for. But for some reason, it's not very clear to me. It sounds like no media outlets were requesting to broadcast it on time, but I'm not sure if there's added complexities. Tomorrow's hearing, unfortunately, is not going to be live streamed to the public. It's not going to be getting broadcast. We will be following everything that happens, of course, but we won't be able to just watch it. Also tomorrow, they will be arguing when should the trial date be, and I think to our great exasperation, Andrew, the defense is arguing they should have a trial in 2029. But even the state, the prosecutors are only arguing. 00:51:07 Speaker 3: No, the third quarter. 00:51:09 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:51:09 Speaker 3: The third quarter of 2029. Third quarter of 2029. So almost 2030. 00:51:13 Speaker 5: Three years from now. 00:51:14 Speaker 3: Yeah. Unbelievable. The state wants the trial date in January 2028. Much better. But, you know, there's this whole year, 2027, that's just going to go by without any progress in the criminal trial against Tyler Robinson. This is really, I've said this. 00:51:31 Speaker 5: Before, but just to repeat again, this is a strong argument. I think there's a big case to be made. Red States, we should invest more money in our court systems, have more judges, pay for more bailiffs, whatever infrastructure you need. When you have a major murder like this, it should be within our capacity to see that case through to completion in a reasonable length of time. Because we should not be waiting three years or more to get justice for what happened to Charlie and for anyone who faces a crime like this. 00:52:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, here's their justification from the defense. This is Kathy Nestor's team. Oh, and by the way, apparently I said Senator Vance. I apologize. Obviously, Vice President Vance. But yeah, it says the filing and litigation motions related to the state's proposed non-expert guilt phase evidence in the second quarter of 2028. And then they want to do litigation motions related to the state's proposed penalty phase experts in the third quarter of 2028. And then they want to do something when it comes to the non-expert penalty phase in the fourth quarter. Filing litigation of venues in the first quarter. The lodging of a proposed jury questionnaire in the filing litigation phase. of motions related to all jury selection procedures and jury instructions in the second quarter of 2029 so that then you can go to trial in the third quarter of 2029. So they've got each of these blocks that they think they need to get accomplished in order to get to the trial phase. And the timeline proposed by the state is more accelerated, but it's still so delayed. And it's very frustrating. I mean, I've never been A victim, I guess, if you will, like connected in this way to a capital case. Very few people have. But I will tell you, being in our position, Blake's position, my position, the team's position, this is just it feels unacceptable. It feels it feels like a slow torture. And yeah, I just really agree with Blake. We've got to do better. And there needs to be reforms in this space. All right. So there's so many more stories here. And the president just put out a true social about this. So I think we should get to it. LeBron James. And this kind of goes along with his WNBA stories. LeBron James during the national anthem was it looked like he was practicing his golf swing. We'll play it. You'd be the judge. Not 16. 00:54:04 Speaker 7: Singing through the. 00:54:08 Speaker 10: Night, the flag was still there. 00:54:14 Speaker 6: I won't. 00:54:23 Speaker 3: Say just a star. 00:54:27 Speaker 5: Look to me, he's doing one of those stretches where they swing their arms back and forth. I think it was a stretch. 00:54:33 Speaker 3: You'll see golfers doing that a lot. You'll see golfers doing that a lot. President Trump says, while listening to our national anthem, LeBron James disrespected our country. I said right from the beginning that he's no good. A total disgrace. LeBron James should apologize to all those great American warriors and heroes who died for the American flag and all that our country stands for. President Donald J. Trump. I, you know, honestly, I totally agree. I wanted to hit this because it felt very Charlie-esque, okay? Charlie was never a LeBron fan. He was always Michael Jordan through and through. I share that sentiment. I genuinely, listen, I don't want to come down on LeBron James. I want our best athletes, our most iconic athletes to be great. I don't want to criticize him. I don't. Everything in me is crying out against doing that because I want to root for our guys. But goodness, he has been such a toxic, iconic American athlete, standing up for China, basically being a whiny baby on the court. He's always got that look on it in his eyes when he gets a foul against or gets called for a foul. I just can't stand it. I don't think he's been nearly the positive impact that he could have been and should have been. And this is just yet another thing. Okay, he was practicing his golf, so he's practicing his shot. You don't do that, LeBron. You do not do that. And the fact that you do not have the sense of presence, you don't understand who you are and what you represent to this country, and how things like this that might feel insignificant to you are truly significant to the people that follow you and look up to you, the young people around the country. So shame on you. Very disappointing. Nevertheless, you're worth $ 1. 4 billion and you don't have the presence of mind to pay respect to the country that gave you all this opportunity that allowed you to be so enriched? Pretty sure you wouldn't do that in China, LeBron. Pretty sure you would have stood in respect for their anthem. Pretty sure you would have done that. The fact that you feel so willy-nilly, the fact that you feel so emboldened and entitled to practice your shot and stretch and do your golf swing, during the national anthem is a true disgrace. And I don't want to be mad at you, but I am. I talk about jobs and industries on this show all the time, but I didn't expect to find an entire skills trade community on TikTok. Plumbers, electrician, builders, and contractors sharing the work they do every day. And it went way beyond tips and tricks. People were sharing their craft, connecting with local contractors, and talking about how they were building their businesses and growing their teams. It opened my eyes to how people in the trades are using TikTok to share their skills, make connections, and find new opportunities. I remember thinking, this is exactly what we need more of, people sharing what they know and creating opportunities for others. And I never expected to find a community like this that's the thing about TikTok. You start with something you know, and suddenly you're finding a whole new side of it that surprises you and leaves you wanting to know more. Your next discovery is waiting for you on TikTok. Learn more at TikTok.com slash discover more. We're going to bring in Will Chamberlain in just a second, but first I want to give you an update out of Maricopa County. Another big drop, and for a third day in a row, Republicans take the drop. So Maricopa added 69,271 ballots, and it was an R plus 1.1, R plus 1.1. Just as a reminder, we did not have Republicans winning an early drop in 2022 until the Friday before election. This is three days in a row in Maricopa that we have won the drop. So the county now sits at D plus 0.5 compared to D plus 1.3 on the same day in 2022. So we are ahead by about 0.8 where we were in 2022. Now, as a state total statewide, there has been 739,746 ballots delivered, early ballots, and it sits at D plus 0.7. On the same day in 2022, it was D plus 2.7. So we are running two points ahead of our 2022 totals. And here's what's really exciting. When you look under the hood, we're winning with zero out of four voters, one out of four voters, two out of three voters, or two out of four voters, three out of four voters. We're losing with four out of four voters. So a lot of those four out of four voters, those high propensity voters are going to show up on election day. At least that's the hope. So turnout, turnout, turnout. We can win the day. Arizona, Nevada are both looking very, very solid. And we like our chances in both of those states. It's all about the early voting. It's all about the ground ground. operations, getting the ground game going. So this is just proof positive that investing in the ground game is so important. All right, without further ado, we have Will Chamberlain, and he's with the Article 3 Project, and he's a great friend of the show. Will, welcome back, my friend. Now, you have been on top of this Ilhan Omar story like just about nobody else out there. There is so many different aspects of this case swirling, It's so delicious if you're us because Ilhan Omar has been a thorn in our side and really just one of the more annoying congresswomen in the country. Can you just break it down point by point what's actually going on? Because like I said, there's just so much swirling. So what are the feds investigating and what can we surmise at this point? 01:00:11 Speaker 11: The feds are investigating immigration fraud and a related conspiracy case. And the conspiracy includes this potential that she married her brother. It includes potential false statements she's made recently on her passports or in other places about her citizenship and perhaps even her date of birth. So but that's the core accusation here is really that from the inception, from the mid 90s, when she came to the United States with her father, that she came under a false identity, that she was not, in fact, Ilhan Omar, that she was, in fact, Ilhan Nur Said Elmi. And the most recent revelation from yesterday was that apparently the Department of Justice has taken the view that that is her name. Her name is not Ilhan Omar. Her name is Ilhan Nursaid Elmi. They revealed that in a document that they filed in Washington, D.C., which is actually related to sort of a side piece of litigation about whether or not the warrant on her house would be unsealed. But in that document, they said that this was a warrant in relation to Ilhan Nursaid Elmi, a.k.a. 01:01:24 Speaker 2: Ilhan Omar. 01:01:25 Speaker 3: Right, which then sort of leads us to believe that she's been operating under a pseudonym all these years. And so, again, yeah, basic facts here. Blake, sorry, I couldn't tell if you were about to chime in here. 01:01:42 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I guess we've all been fixated. Obviously, the idea that she might have married her brother has been at the heart of this and has really kept it going. Right. If that's the case, if she had a false name, there's so many other things that could be in play here, and I've seen people say, maybe the real thing is not necessarily that she married her brother, but clearly it seems, the evidence to me feels almost overwhelming at this point, that her second marriage, whatever it was, was clearly fraudulent, and that if you peel it back, you're going to see an episode in the just endemic, epidemic levels of just deceptive, fraudulent behavior. in the Somali diaspora that came to America in the 1990s. So can you build that out for us more, Will? 01:02:24 Speaker 7: Sure. 01:02:24 Speaker 11: So let's start with just Ilhan's story of marriages so people understand the timeline here and you'll understand why things are so suspect. So back in 2003, she apparently has a religious marriage with who is now the father of her three children. And then in 2009, without getting a formal divorce of that man, she has a civil marriage to Ahmed Nursaid Elmi. That civil marriage was conducted by a Christian priest, a Christian pastor, which is odd because, of course, she is Muslim. By 2011, apparently, they were no longer in the picture. And in 2015, before any divorce was filed, Omar filed a joint tax return with her first religious husband, who she shared the three children with. And then later in 2017, she formally divorced the so-called second husband. 01:03:16 Speaker 2: So that is extraordinarily strange. 01:03:19 Speaker 11: Well, one nugget that has not been reported that much that was buried in the lead of a Washington Post story was that apparently Ahmed Nursaid Elmi, the supposed second husband, applied for naturalization in the early 2010s. And then USCIS came back to him and asked him for more documents and substantiation of his marriage to to Ilhan Omar. And instead of providing that, he simply withdrew his application for naturalization, which is maybe the most suspect and revealing fact of all. So basically, it's a fake marriage. Now, why is this? What's happening here? Why is this even necessary? Because if she's here legitimately, and this is legitimately her brother, then her brother should just be able to come in on a normal family visa, like a family reunification visa. 01:04:07 Speaker 2: So why not? 01:04:08 Speaker 11: And so the way to understand it is while the marriage fraud was itself illegal, it's also the keystone at understanding the whole matrix of immigration fraud here that goes back to her father coming over in the mid-1990s under an identity that is pretty clear wasn't his. The allegations are that her father, now deceased, was a senior colonel in Siad Barre's Marxist-Leninist regime in Somalia. The Somalian regime obviously fell during the Somalian Civil War, which is why Ilhan and her family had to move to Kenya. But because he was a senior colonel in a regime that was explicitly and avowedly Marxist, he would have been inadmissible to the United States. So he therefore would have had to come in under a pseudonym. And so we don't know the details of exactly how that happened. Did he merge into an existing family that had already gotten admission, which is something that actually has happened. I mean, you can find examples in the first Trump administration, for example, of four Somalis being denaturalized and deported, who had presented themselves as a family for a diversity visa, and none of them were related to each other, a husband, wife, and two purported children, none of them had any relation to the others. So these sort of fake families, mix and match families, could have been done in Somalia because, of course, in those refugee camps in Kenya, it's not like they had great records and documentation of birth certificates and things like that. There's no question about these things being revealed. So you had just a lot of potential for fraud and people to pretend they're members of families that they aren't really members of. 01:05:41 Speaker 2: And so that appears. 01:05:42 Speaker 11: So something along those lines seemed to have happened here, where you have this father who had to pretend he wasn't a colonel in this Marxist regime, pretending to be somebody else. And then perhaps because he had to maybe merge into a different family or adopt another family's name that was going to be admitted, he couldn't bring all his children along because maybe the family structure wouldn't have made sense. An example would be think about it this way. If you're merging your family into someone else's family and pretending that you're one big family, then your children can't be more than, you know, your children need to be at least nine months apart. 01:06:13 Speaker 2: Right. 01:06:14 Speaker 11: And so if they're not, that would obviously create a serious problem. Maybe you fudge a birth date, but maybe you also don't try and bring in all your children, which might have happened here or something along those lines. And so that sort of could be the catalyst for why 15 years later, after this family maybe split up 15 years before and then was trying to reunify with a sham marriage. 01:06:35 Speaker 5: I just think it's the way you describe this. 01:06:38 Speaker 11: It's just. 01:06:40 Speaker 5: Americans have no idea how privileged we've been to not merely live in, as we'd say, a high trust society, but like a legible society, a society with documentation and a society where it's just not really thinkable to engage in that level of deception of the system. And I really think as the DOJ peels this back, the press has just, they've avoided this by treating it all like it's so uninteresting. And I don't know if she married her brother, but I think if we peel this back, you're going to discover this process by which really tens, hundreds of thousands of people have just made it an entire industry within their subculture to lie to everyone. And we've taken it lying down because most of us have been ignorant it's even happening. And you're racist, as Charlie would say, for even pointing it out. 01:07:30 Speaker 3: Well, this is what's interesting here, Will. Ilhan Omar deleted a 2013 tweet calling her father Noor Syed. So this does seem to, you know, now that we have these charging documents that refer to her as Ilhan Nur Syed Elmi. And so she goes, happy Father's Day to my Abu Nur Syed. I am forever grateful to Allah for giving me the best father. Anyway, she takes it down. And, I mean, that to me feels ridiculous. Pretty damning. 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Terms and conditions apply. 01:09:59 Speaker 2: Who was this man that was your husband? 01:10:01 Speaker 8: When did they start saying that he was your brother? 01:10:03 Speaker 7: Why? I started with the Somali blog that I don't know if it still exists, but somebody put in there that, you know, that he had to have been my brother or something to that effect. And right wing conspiracy theorists in Minneapolis got a hold of it. 01:10:24 Speaker 2: You were not related to him at all? 01:10:25 Speaker 7: Not to my knowledge. 01:10:31 Speaker 5: You know, a lot of attention's gone on the not to my knowledge part. But what I what really stood out to me is just the fact that he says, who is this guy that they're saying, you know, is your brother? Who is your husband? And she never actually answers that question. Like the easiest way to shut this down would be to say. Yeah, I met this guy while I was on a trip to family in the UK. Here's his background. Here's how we got married. You know, I was in a difficulty with my husband. We've never had that laid out. She just quickly moves on to, oh, yeah, I came from a blog. Don't let's not say any more about him. I have never heard her describe anything about this guy. It's so shady. 01:11:07 Speaker 3: Well, and right. I mean, not, you know, the biggie on the eye chart here is, though, not to my knowledge. I mean, that is just the weirdest way to answer that question. There shouldn't be any doubt whether you married your brother. The other thing I've been just percolating on since our last segment, Will, was you were talking about how if this is her brother, they got married with a Christian pastor. Now, if you're Muslim, that is a sign that you know you're doing something that is not allowed, that is sort of forbidden. So you're going to go do it in the religion you think is false. You're going to go do it before somebody that is not representative of the true faith that you ascribe to. So it just feels like a slap in the face and another little clue in this puzzle as you're unraveling it here. Now, the other thing is there's DNA. They've been collecting DNA, you know, from personal trash items. And apparently they're going to use that to confirm that this was a sham marriage that she was engaged in with her brother. Notably, didn't have any kids with him either. And the fact that she's been married three times is also another strange thing here. Anyways. 01:12:22 Speaker 2: There's so much more strange. 01:12:23 Speaker 5: I want to flag one more thing that just can hint at how petty and how casual this fraud can be. I'm looking back at some of the early Powerline blog posts that helped uncover this back in 2019. And like, why would she do this sham marriage? It might have been immigration fraud. But another reason, apparently at that time, both of them were attending North Dakota State University in Fargo. And you can get better housing if you're a married couple. It may be as casual fraud as that. Oh, we can get a bigger apartment if we fill out these forms and do this woo-wah to make it seem like we're a married couple. That is how deep fraud can go. Just invent a marriage to get a slightly better dormitory while you're going to a university. I think we're. 01:13:04 Speaker 2: Going to discover so much. You're going to love this fact. 01:13:08 Speaker 11: Three people were registered to live at that address that they were all at at North Dakota University at the very same time. That would be her first husband and herself. 01:13:17 Speaker 2: Right. 01:13:17 Speaker 11: The person she shared three children, three children with and her second husband. So they were all living together in the same house. 01:13:23 Speaker 7: Huh. 01:13:24 Speaker 2: That seems real. Right. 01:13:26 Speaker 11: Like normally, you know, I mean, look, I haven't been divorced, God forbid. But like one would think that a divorced couple would not want the the ex-spouse to be living in the same house with them. Perhaps this was fake. 01:13:39 Speaker 2: Right. 01:13:39 Speaker 11: And we and we know it's also fake because the you know, despite having never like formally registered the original first marriage you have in 2015, the, the pair, the couple that shares two, three children filing a joint tax return. Like it was just obvious. There's something obviously fake about it. And again, it's like the fact that she can't even describe this person she supposedly married. There's lies about how long she knew this person, when she stopped contact with them. Like she made a claim that she, in her divorce filings again, under oath, that she hadn't seen or heard from him since 2011, but there are social media posts indicating her responding and interacting with this guy as late as 2013. There's also social media posts from this guy referring to around the time Ilhan Omar gave birth to at least one of her children, referring to a picture that he had taken with some children as nieces. So there's just, there's just this pile of evidence that doesn't prove it, but really is just unbelievable. 01:14:40 Speaker 3: It's so infuriating. 01:14:42 Speaker 5: I think about that scandal that happened in Britain with the professor Jason Arday, where he got exposed, he was doing academic fraud and it caused a bit of a feeding frenzy with the media where they started to realize there's so many things about this guy's life that are a lie and it should be newsworthy. Like even if, even if it were the case that you can't denaturalize Ilhan Omar, that, all the statute of limitations that you can't prosecute her right now. It should be incredibly interesting to our media class, all of this behavior. They should say, this is incredibly bizarre. We should figure out what happened here. It seems like we have a member of Congress who's very prominent, who lies a lot about her personal history. She's lying about marriages. She's doing bizarre stuff. You could get such an insight into this world. If she were a member of a fundamentalist Christian sect that was doing weird behavior like this, they would be all over this like flies on excrement. And the fact that they are not is just so damning of our media apparatus that they can just see this giant, it's like a black hole emanating out of the Somali community in Minnesota that makes them go, nothing interesting here, nothing to see. We're not going to talk about it. Don't ask any questions. They are the laziest people in the world. 01:15:56 Speaker 2: It reminds me of the Biden senility story. Yeah. That's what it reminds me of. 01:15:59 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, so let's look, There's also the financial aspect of this. Maybe go into that a little bit. You know, it just seems like another, you know, smoke, there must be fire element here. Because, again, this casual nature of fraud within the Somali community, she seems to be a perfect representation of a larger fraud problem that we've become so aware of this year. But then I want to know what you think is ultimately the most likely outcome to this investigation. Is it deportation? Denaturalization? Is it prison? The floor is yours. Minute and a half. 01:16:30 Speaker 11: So on the financial side, I think the most interesting dynamic here is to realize that if Ilhan Omar has this compromised family history and this history of not being properly admitted to the country, not being properly naturalized, immigration fraud, endless lying, that would make her an incredibly compromised person for blackmail. 01:16:52 Speaker 2: Within her own family. 01:16:53 Speaker 11: This strikes me as the kind of thing that if you saw this in the Italian mafia, this is like a plot out of The Sopranos. They would exploit someone like this ruthlessly who had this kind of criminal history and couldn't have it revealed publicly. So it strikes me that, especially given what's been revealed by the types of Nick Shirley and the Feeding Our Futures scandal and what seems like endless fraud in the Somali community in Minnesota, she would be the perfect tool of one of these organized fraud rings that to get legal protection and legal assistance from a legislature. And so I wouldn't be surprised at all if she's somehow involved and that maybe she was, you know, wanted to be involved out of greed. Maybe she was compelled to be involved because of threat of revealing all this derogatory information about her and potentially ruining her life and subjecting her to criminal penalties. Either way, it's just an example of how compromised she was and also why it's a derogation of duty on the part of the media to reveal what's going on here. So I think that's. 01:17:49 Speaker 2: You know, deportation, definitely unexplored. 01:17:51 Speaker 3: Prison. What do you think? 01:17:53 Speaker 2: All of the above, I think. All of the above. 01:17:55 Speaker 11: I think she's going to face a criminal conviction for false statements on her passport. I think she and then ultimately, I think, deported. 01:18:01 Speaker 3: From your lips to God's ears, Will Chamberlain, Article 3 Project. Thank you, my friend. 01:18:09 Speaker 5: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.