Modern Day Slavery, Being Conservative on Campus, + More — Charlie's 2021 Minnesota State University Q&A

00:00:03 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie kirk I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start at turning point you would say college chapter. Go start attning point youould say high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. Here I am Lord, Use me. Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of the Charlie Kirkshaw, a company that specializes in gold I rays and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegold investments dot Com. That is Noblegoldinvestments dot Com. All right, we will We'll go to the first question. I always say this, if you disagree, you're allowed to cut in line. And if someone says something outrageous, don't laugh at them, don't mock them, don't ridicule them. This is obviously a conservative audience, so if a liberal speaking, give them the respect that they never give to us to allow their ideas to be scrut Okay. 00:01:46 Speaker 2: Hi, Charlie, I have kind of a two part question for you. So first, you talked about people like Ebram who actually came to speak at my college campus. 00:01:54 Speaker 1: That's hilarious. 00:01:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what advice would you give to students like us who disagree with who want to fight back but are fought every way. We're fought in every corner, every step of the way, targetting, we're trying to getting turning point on campus and not happening, trying to take all these steps to fight back, and they're just finding us at every step. And then part two of the question is God willing If I have kids one day, what do. 00:02:16 Speaker 3: We do if it keeps going this way? 00:02:18 Speaker 2: I mean, homeschooling is always an option, but if we'd like to send them to school. 00:02:22 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that? What school do you go to? 00:02:24 Speaker 2: The University of Saint Thomas and Saint Paul. 00:02:26 Speaker 1: Okay, well, first of all, boo, right, thank you for being here, by the way, So I I want to just I want to open up by first saying I don't have any easy answers. When you experience oppositions. For the young people in the room, raise your hand if you've been treated differently or graded differently because of your political affiliation or your ideas. Yeah, basically, every single young person's hand goes up. Now for adult. For some of the parents and grandparents, they're shocked in a guess that we would live in that kind of country. Yeah, we do. You're gonna pay a price if you disagree with the status quo. The best thing you can do is you have to make a decision, and you have to make a choice of whether or not this sort of endeavor, which will come with opposition, it will come with backlash, it will come with mockery and ridicule against you, is worth it. Here's the two things I can promise every single turning point USA student. Well, first, you're gonna all pay a price. No one likes hearing that. Right, You're all gonna lose friends, but you'll make new ones. You're all gonna get kicked out of fraternities and sororities. Who cares about that stuff. Anyway, your grades will be different. I don't really think grades matter that much, but maybe they do to you. But whatever, I think, character matters. I would rather have courageous C students than week A students. But and so I'm not saying you can't be both. I'm not saying you can't be a courageous A student. But if I was forced to choose, Okay, But here's here's the thing I can promise you, and I could tell you're frustrated, you're getting your teeth kicked in. You get to be something that most people in America wish. You could be the same person in public that you are in private. You do not have to pretend to be somebody that you're not. So you do not have to leave your apartment and go put on a camouflage in a disguise and go be like a woke person when you go to you know, go to work. Now you've be like, oh, this is what I believe. Why I believe it? Don't want to hire me, fine I'll figure it out. If you don't want to come with these names, fine I'll figure it out. You act that way, you take almost all their power away. We have given them this kind of societal and cultural power by allowing them to all of a sudden tell us what is socially acceptable, to allow us to what sort of ideas are. And I'm not saying it's easy, because there's somebody in this audience right now that I know is getting a pit in their stomach, Like man, Charlie's easy for you to say, I'm a nurse at a hospital. I'm about to be fired because I'm getting forced to get a vaccine. If I dare say anything, I will tyrannically and author it, you know, autocratically be fired, almost in instantaneously. Easy for you to get up on stage and say that. It's not easy for me to say it. It's hard because I know the significance of the words that I'm saying. I know that there will be a price and a consequence. We do not do hopium at turning point usay, you know what that is hopeful things Opium feels good, It's actually really bad for you. A lot of people will go on tour and they'll say this, Just stand for your beliefs and your life will get infinitely better instantaneous. That's garbage. That's lying to you. No, it's actually might be really awful for the first six months, first year, two years, but you'll become stronger. You'll develop the metaphorical muscles that deal with this. A year from now, two years from now, three years from now, they won't be able to take anything from you. You will be a properly sold individual, which is what free. You'll be free, free from what they can call you, free from what they can throw at you. And so heck, yeah, man, you're gonna get all sorts of different backlash and ridicule. Don't give up. Handle yourself correctly, respectfully, understand and the position of others. Don't give them a reason to try to cancel you or silence. You. Do not do things for the sake of provoking. But you know, people say, Charlie're always trying to provoke. That's not true. I say things that are true, and if it provokes people, that's their problem, not mine. Okay, So my intent is to say things that are true. So let me just say this people like you or while we started turning point USA, don't give up, don't give in. We've heard all the stories. And here's the other thing. Resist the temptation because it's there even for me. To want to feel sorry for yourself. Want to feel sorry for yourself is the opposite of living a magnanimous life. A magnanimous man is one who's deliberate in its choices. It's a properly sold person. A magnanimous man is not anxious when they open an envelope or an email. I'm not that person. Sometimes, right, sometimes you get a text messaure like, oh my goodness, what is this. A magnanimous man knows who they are, and they know their place in the world, and no one can take it away from them. Keep fighting, Hi, Charlie. 00:07:07 Speaker 3: Oh sorry, yeah, Hi Charlie. 00:07:09 Speaker 4: So I just had I listened close to your speech is very good, all right. 00:07:17 Speaker 5: So. 00:07:21 Speaker 3: It's a very detailed speech. 00:07:23 Speaker 4: I basically had a two part question for you after listening to your speech. I wondered, did you think that slavery and ensuing Jim Crow laws had a lasting impact on the black community in the United States? 00:07:36 Speaker 2: Some? 00:07:36 Speaker 1: And that's a good question. So if you, if you correlate all the impact of Jim Crow and slavery, I would say that you could generously say twenty six percent single motherhood in the black community in the nineteen sixties. So about twenty six percent of all black babies born in the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties were born to a single mother. Now it's seventy seven percent. So I would ask you why did it jump fifty points fifty percent since the Civil Rights Act? As America got significantly less racist. 00:08:07 Speaker 3: So that's fine. I don't know why it jumped that. 00:08:11 Speaker 1: Who cares? But wasn't slavery or Jim Crow? Was something else? 00:08:15 Speaker 4: So the only lasting impact that slavery had on the US was that less black families have fathers. 00:08:23 Speaker 1: No, not necessarily. But have you ever known anyone that's owned a slave? 00:08:28 Speaker 3: No? 00:08:28 Speaker 4: But I know a few presidents who did you know them personally? 00:08:35 Speaker 1: So so you know anyone that was ever a slave? Well? 00:08:39 Speaker 3: No? 00:08:39 Speaker 4: Because so so okay, I don't know anyone who was a slave. 00:08:55 Speaker 3: So it had no impact. 00:08:56 Speaker 1: No, it had some impact. The question is that it have an impact that is measurable and significant enough. Now in twenty twenty one, where we saw a key metric that influenced the livelihood of the black community, like single motherhood rate that as America got less racist all of a sudden, now seventy seven percent of Black babies are born without a father, were before it was twenty six percent. 00:09:21 Speaker 6: Something that's on everyone's mind right now is the housing market. Whether you're looking to buy your first home, purchase your dream home, wondering if your current mortgage is still the best fit for you, or you're considering using your equity to pay off other high interest debt with double digit rates, the wait and see approach may actually be costing you money. 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Go to Andrewantodd dot com today. 00:10:30 Speaker 1: And I suppose the question is this because this is the question about systemic racism, right, what law that is in practice today actively discriminates against black people? 00:10:42 Speaker 4: So here's what I would say to that. The idea of capitalism and America, like you said, is is it doesn't matter who you are. 00:10:52 Speaker 3: Show me what you got is fresh start. 00:10:55 Speaker 4: So what would happen if you had like one hundred and fifty years in a country for your family to build wealth, to own a house, to have a job, to get college education for your kids, to build generational wealth, and then you took another family who didn't have the opportunity to do any of that for one hundred and fifty years and then set them off on the same even starting point. Is that really an even starting point? And would that not result in some kind of systemic disadvantage. 00:11:30 Speaker 1: So people, the black middle class was the fastest growing demographic in the nineteen forties and nineteen fifties until the Great Society Act and that intervention. It's very tempting to do what you're doing, and I'm not faulting you for it, because you've probably been propagandized to believe it. And that's okay, because I think you're actually a victim in this case, because you've been misled to want to believe that things you never lived under, never understood, and that I think you are partially seeing had a disproportioned impact in the world that you're living in today. So, for example, if that were to be true, then first generation immigrants would not be able to quickly be able to make good choices and move up the latter in this country, which I think we have some first generation immigrants here tonight. Now let me say this that this idea that America is systemically racist to the core would also be quickly debunked by the fact that more blacks have legally immigrated to America since the nineteen eighties than ever. We're here broad as slaves, over two million blacks from the Caribbean and from Nigeria and from Western Africa have come here to America. So the question is, why is it that, in every statistic that you could probably rattle off, are black people doing worse than white people? What is it? Well, I would point to the fact that fathers are not in the home, because it was twenty six percent of black females in the nineteen sixties were single mothers. Now it's seventy seven percent. If you look at the Brookings Institution, a liberal think tank, there are three things you need to do to stay out of poverty in America. Number one, graduate high school. Well, because of public sector unions and the dominance of our government schools, that's harder than ever infard to many communities, not just racial, not just Black communities, not just Hispanic communities. The second thing, get a job, any job. And the third thing is obviously not to commit crimes, but to try to try to get married before you have children. And so some of what I believe has contributed to the downfall of some of these communities has nothing to do with white people with the neck on black people. Instead, it's the following fathers no longer being in the home, the rise of sexual anarchy that came in post nineteen sixty sixties liberalism that removed this idea of sex being confined to a marital relationship to be gratuitous and everywhere, all of a sudden, you've seen an increase in the birth in not just the birth rate, but the single motherhood rate and abortion alongside of it. I would just ask this question. I'm just curious, how much do you think outputs are based on people's decisions based on the advantages they're born into. 00:14:04 Speaker 4: I mean, as someone who's taken introduction to sociology, your life is greatly influenced by what the you know, you're the conditions are born into. But I promise this it'll be the last thing. Just you say, there's less fathers in the home of you know, many black families. 00:14:22 Speaker 3: And that's the issue. So what do you think is keeping fathers out of the home? 00:14:26 Speaker 1: In those great questions? 00:14:27 Speaker 4: Do you think it could be over policing and police arresting. 00:14:33 Speaker 3: Like do you think it could be law. 00:14:38 Speaker 4: Enforcement disproportionately enforcing laws in black neighborhoods and arresting more black males than any other demographic. 00:14:46 Speaker 1: So blacks are actually under arrested and under policed per the percentage of crimes they commit. We talked about some of those numbers, but let me tell you one thing in particular. In the Great Society Act, we decided as a civilization to subsidize single otherhood. In the nineteen sixties, we told black women, you no longer need to be married to have children. You can get married to the government. And we saw a dramatic escalation and increase of the deterioration of the nuclear family and a replacement of that of the nanny state and the welfare state. And I would say this that every single activist group that steps up, it talks about systemic racism and oppression. If you look at the data, purely the data, if there is a movement to put black fathers back in the home and to try and challenge the sexual anarchy that came in the post nineteen sixties and had a more prudent and pious view of sexual relations in America, which is a very unpopular view, by the way, for most Americans. But it's true that before the nineteen sixties, sexual relations were at least culturally supposed to always be confined to marital relationships. The more gratuitous that we have been in trying to catalog it in media and in pop culture and in Hollywood, and yes, in schools. Then all of a sudden you have seen people say, well, why do I need get married for that? Marriage is the bedrock institution. And strong families create strong communities, which create strong civilizations. And this is why immigrant communities that have come to American first generation immigrants, they're able to move so quickly up the socioeconomic ladder because they might not have wealth, they might not have big bank accounts, they might not own a lot of land, but they have the thing they know that we'll keep them together, which is a family that will not be broken up at any means necessary. I'll finally say this. Let me just say this. 00:16:30 Speaker 5: Now. 00:16:30 Speaker 1: I want to I want to thank you for coming, because it took courage you to ask that question. I'm just going to ask you to do one thing. Please forget everything you learn at introduction of sociology one to one, because it was likely all garbage. So thank you so much. If anyone disagrees, feel free to pop in line. And you know, maybe you disagree and you're working the events. Who knows. 00:16:54 Speaker 3: I don't. Okay, hi uh okay. 00:16:58 Speaker 1: So I know you feel strongly about a lot. 00:16:59 Speaker 5: Of political issues, and I just want to know what one do you feel the most strong about, or like passionate about. 00:17:05 Speaker 1: Most strongly about, like that most Yeah, I mean there's a lot, But if you really want to get me animated, yeah, is is the million abortions that we accept in our country every single year. So that one, that one definitely gets us all animated. If you can't get basic things right, then I don't I don't expect us to start to get the more complicated things correct. Life begins a conception. It shouldn't be hard to say that I will. I will go back to what I said earlier, which is that when all of a sudden a society accepts that sexual relations can be normalized outside of marriage, then all of a sudden, you need to institute new forms of birth control and pleasure control, which is abortion. Million abortions a year, and that's three thousand a day to give an idea of how many abortions happen in our country every single year, and so it also disproportionately hurts black communities. And to kind of answer that previous question before This is a tough topic to talk about because even some conservatives kind of want to participate in kind of some of the slow cultural landslide. And I think we have to be very clear of what is the ideal? What is the law of nature and Nature's God, as Thomas Jefferson said. And I'm not here to proselytize a certain religious belief. I obviously have my own. Let's talk about what Thomas Jefferson said in the Declaration of Independence. What is the law of nature and Nature's God? Here's a law of nature. Out of wedlocked children is not good for anyone. It's not good for the parent, it's not good for the kid, it's not good for society, it's not good for the civilization, it's not good for the future of the country. That there is an ideal. The ideal should be a man and a woman raising that child, pouring into them. That a daughter needs to see the type of woman she wants to become. She also wants to see the type of man she one day wants to marry. The man needs to see the type of woman that one day he wants to court and marry. And then maybe the man he wants to become you remove one of those elements. It's not to say that it's impossible. There are some phenomenal single mothers out there that have been mistreated by weak men, that have been lied to by degenerate men, quite honestly, and I'm happy to get into that endlessly, that step up and raise amazing children. But the statistic show it itself. And I want to say this to the prior question I forgot, which is that if you look at the data, the data is very clear, which is that a black child raised by a mother and a father is far more likely to take all the different statistics that you would consider to be a success than a white child that is just raised by a single mother. That right, there is the ultimate social safety net, which is stronger families, and this is obvious, but far too often. Here's the thing, though, is this is where I'll go a step further and feel free to disagreement and we can get in line, which is that I don't think we just have to talk about it as conservatives. I think we have to do something about it, which means that we as conservatives know that families are everything, but far too often we as conservatives say that we're like, Okay, now go make a choice. I say, wow, why don't we try to calibrate laws that actually try to defend families and make it easier to have children in our country? To make it easier. And now some conservatives get really nervous. They're like, I don't know, because that's government intrusion into it. Like we're living in, unfortunately, a phase where government's intruding into everything. I don't like it. I wish we had limited government. I wish we were living in a society everyone was able to police their own ideas and their own vert and their own their own actions through the pursuit of virtue. But I've said very clearly that if we do not turn the corner on Americans having more children, then the civilization is over. You know what. The number one reason why young couples do not have children is number one reason, too expensive. It's unacceptable. We have to start to think to ourselves, if if you can't have children, then what good is corporate profits and building new, weird buildings in downtown Minneapolis? And what good is that? I want in America where five six, seven, eight nine kids per family starts to have a resurgence. I think the wealthiest people in America is not Jeff Bezos. It's the people that have large families. They are the wealthiest people in America. They really are. And that's an ideal. And I will say this two men, I'm gonna get boot off stay. I won't get boot off thish. Too many young women make an ideal of a soulless corporate career when deep down they actually want to start a family. Don't prolong it. Go find someone responsible and go have a lot of kids. Thank you. Yeah. 00:22:14 Speaker 6: I want to talk to you about an issue so many Americans face, and that's health insurance. 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I've had friends abroad who were slaves in the cotton fields and whos Bekkistan, Like it's still going on here too. 00:24:12 Speaker 1: So just understanding your argument is that we have slavery in America because people who commit crimes aren't paid a minimum wage when they go to jail. 00:24:21 Speaker 7: Correct And I'm not saying that that's wrong. I'm just saying that still is slavery. 00:24:25 Speaker 1: Now, that's that's not slavery, Okay, slavery. Well, first of all, many of the prisoners actually want those jobs because they get a chance to actually build some income and get out of the cell and have a decent life. And here here's the thing. I'm not really big into the prisoner sympathy thing. Okay, you commit a crime and you go to jail. You're a rapist, you're a narsonist, you're a murderer, you're a money embezzler, and all of a sudden you get a chance to like put together packages. You should be thinking us, Okay, enough of like the Swan song of like feel sorry for me as I burned down buildings or whatever it is. So it's not slavery, Okay. Slavery is would be that you took a random citizen on the side of the street and be like, oh, you did nothing wrong, go put together a bunch of gizmo's and gadgets. So maybe your definition slavery is different than mine. 00:25:04 Speaker 7: But uh, you talked earlier about dignity of all humans, and right there it sounds like once you've committed a crime, your dignity. 00:25:11 Speaker 1: This is a great question. So when should dignity be removed? 00:25:14 Speaker 7: I would argue never, So. 00:25:15 Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you a questions. So, Ted Kaczinski, Eric Rudolph, and Timothy McVeigh, three people that randomly bombed American society, the unibomber, the Centennial Park bomber, and the guy that bombed the Oklahoma City bomber, you should never take their dignity away. 00:25:29 Speaker 7: Yeah, humans, As you said earlier that like, once we start defining why you should take dignity away, dignity. 00:25:35 Speaker 1: Start about like murdering people. 00:25:37 Speaker 7: Okay, there's a difference between allowing people to live in society and taking away their dignity. 00:25:43 Speaker 1: Right, So like unibomber should he not be in jail. 00:25:46 Speaker 7: I'm not saying you shouldn't be in jail. I'm saying that the rhetoric we used towards people shows whether we give them dignity and see dignity. 00:25:52 Speaker 1: Right, Like Ted Kazinski was given dignity when he was a professor until he started mailing packages around the country and started killing random children. Then it's like, Okay, you're going to jail for the rest of your life. That's a good use of power. 00:26:03 Speaker 7: So Charlie, when should people stop giving you dignity if you're gonna. 00:26:06 Speaker 1: Have lines because I'm not the unbomber? Right, yeah, fair point? 00:26:22 Speaker 7: And do you understand where I'm saying of Like if we okay, cool, if we claim that dignity is inalible human right we're given. 00:26:34 Speaker 1: By God, rights could be taken away. 00:26:37 Speaker 7: Okay, is given by God, cauld be taken away by the man? 00:26:41 Speaker 1: Say that again anywhere you said if dignity. 00:26:42 Speaker 7: Is given by God, can it be taken away by man? 00:26:45 Speaker 1: It could be taken away by the state. If you make a decision to infringe on the life, liberty or property of another. Therefore an emphasis on what human action. So, for example, when someone goes and shoots up a school or a church, like Dylan Ruth, he all of a sudden has violated the social contract and social compact of life, liberty, and property of another. Therefore, we absolutely have a moral right and prerogative. In fact, we have a moral obligation to say that he should not be able to live in free society alongside of us. 00:27:19 Speaker 7: As absolutely agree. 00:27:21 Speaker 1: Okay, That's not what I'm trying to say. 00:27:23 Speaker 7: What I'm trying to say is that we should still treat these humans with dignity even when they are not allowed to be a part of society. 00:27:31 Speaker 1: I mean, again, you're not going to convince me that Dylan Roof or the unibomber are in some sort of vast need after they decided to take the life of innocent people. Is that the argument they made a decision to take the life of another, at that point, the social contract has been violated, and we should, in fact, we have to use state power to take them out of the free and decent society. 00:27:58 Speaker 3: I'm still not agreeing disagreeing with that. 00:28:00 Speaker 7: So what I'm disagreeing with is how we use rhetoric in our thought patterns to view other humans and we start to objectify them. 00:28:07 Speaker 1: A good question, like going to can I understand where you're getting, but let me ask you a questions? 00:28:11 Speaker 7: Oh can can I just finish real quick? 00:28:13 Speaker 1: Yeah? Fine? 00:28:14 Speaker 7: Just like niche uh not that I agree with everything? Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm really bad. 00:28:20 Speaker 1: So which book are you quoting that you learned in your intro to it's just the famous quote, Yeah, beyond good evil? You know which one isn't. 00:28:27 Speaker 7: Beware when fighting monsters, for you, yourself become a monster. When you gaze into the abyss, the bisk is back. 00:28:32 Speaker 1: And I hear a lot of rhetoric of tribalism. 00:28:34 Speaker 7: I hear a lot of undignifying of humans and objectifying of humans because of the wrongs that they've committed, which is yeah, like I agreed, they committed wrongs, And like, how do we get beyond this tribalism, get beyond this undignifying of humans from what they do? 00:28:50 Speaker 1: How about this stop committing crimes and start improving your own character and your conduct, And then all of a sudden, I think society will start to figure it out. I guess my question is, which is you're worried about thought patterns and speech patterns. We right now in our country have thousands of people that have committed first degree murder. They decided to take the dignity in the life of another human being. Excuse me, while I don't dedicate parts of my speech for people that decided to kill people in cold blood, right, let me put it more bluntly. People lose any sort of compassion from the state or society, or any sort of what you would consider to be the same freedom you enjoy when you start to take the life of another Let me ask you just one final question about this, which is you say we shouldn't dehumanize people. What happens when people stop to be human like Adolf Hitler? You think we should give him dignity. 00:29:52 Speaker 7: I think we shouldn't stoop to the level we're trying to stop. 00:29:57 Speaker 1: Okay, well, let me finish one thing. So I just want to highlight how incredibly dumb that statement was, because let me be very clear, the rule of law and the enforcement of it is a sword that needs to be used blindly, prudently, and with wisdom. But make no mistake to say that, well, for example, we don't like people that take the life of another. Therefore we should not take life of somebody else. It violates the American idea of justice, which is that you take the life and liberty of another, you're going to pay a price for that. And I encourage you to expand we're gonna get to the next question. Expand beyond Nietzsche. Just learn how to pronounce it Nietzsche, you know, German guy that was right about some things and wrong about a lot. And maybe just read a little bit of Aristotle and Aquinnas and Augustine, maybe a little Plato, then maybe you'll expand it a little bit. Thank you for your question, Thanks for being here tonight. Not expect the whole thing on the unibomber tonight, but here we are. 00:30:58 Speaker 6: So alliance defending freedom knows that freedom belongs to those who fight for it. Americans have carried that legacy for two hundred and fifty years, and now we must do so again. Censorship is rising, threatening your free speech in every sphere, from classrooms to counselor's offices and even online. 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That's JOINADF dot com slash Charlie or text Charlie to eight three eight four eight. 00:32:23 Speaker 1: Hi, Charlie, thanks for being here. 00:32:25 Speaker 8: You just mentioned pretty early on, pretty briefly about how a lot of the struggle with conservatives is that we don't have the same place in visual media that the left does. I'm a media production major, tifically film, and so it's kind of disheartening to see the way that that profession has been taken over by the left, and how kind of a lot of doors seem shut for people who want to spread use that medium to spread pro American messages. So I'm just wondering what has to happen for conservatives that carve out their place in visual media. 00:32:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, first of all, this is a great question. My wife and I were just talking about this. Actually, the way that we view art is all wrong. I love art, I just don't like postmodern art. Obviously, it's garbage. And so we need to do a better job of telling people what art actually is, which is the glorification of beauty, the pursuit and commitment to wonder, and hopefully the personification of the ideal and properly sold man. One of the reasons why conservatives tend to not like some of the people that come out of these graphic design schools is because they've been so propagandized to believe that art is what you make out of it, which is one of the most ridiculous things. I think was Marceille du Camp in nineteen twenties who signed a Yeurnal and was kind of the beginning of kind of this postmodern artist revolutionary said this is now art because I want it to be Like, no, it's not. That's not the way. Maybe you could say that you have a right to be completely wrong. So how does that tie to you? Is that we as conservatives we need to get back into culture. Obviously we hear this a lot in movies, entertainment, and art, but let's be very clear about the type of culture that we actually want to create. We want to create art that glorifies a pursuit and a relationship with your creator that speaks favorably of the Western canon of Shakespeare, of the books that built our entire civilization. Instead, we're doing the opposite. Instead, on Disney Plus, you go be a graphic designer to go like tell eight year olds that transgenderism is normalized or whatever. That crazy right, that's like the new thing, which I think is completely and totally evil and wrong, where they have transgender people on Disney Plus and Nickelodeon or whatever. And so I would just say that what needs to be done is we as conservatives need to be more embracing of people that are artists. And this is the problem is because some people say, well, artists are inherently disruptive and destructive. Now there is a point, and there's some truth to that, right, But good art does not destroy things that are beautiful. Does the opposite. Good art portrays things that are beautiful in a way that has not been done before. So this is the whole idea of architecture. Right. Don't get me started on architecture in America, which is mostly garbage. Right, it's mostly utilitarian. You got you want to know the best example of American architecture going now, go look at a dollar general. It looks like something out of a Soviet commissar in the nineteen seventies, right, Like no windows, total box, built solely and strictly for the purpose of buying crap from China. Like that's what a dollar general is for. Right, And instead we used to build buildings to have some sort of transcendent connection. So there's two very basic things that you should know about architecture. Number one, the circle is the perfect shape because there is no big beginning, there is no end. It's an infinite symbol in its core. Number two, All buildings should point upwards because they point upwards towards transcendent order or to God. Very simple. Most European medieval architecture, Gothic architecture, embodies this. People are really afraid to talk about this topic. I don't know why, because they kind of loop it into some sort of like you're a terrible person because you're talking about architecture. No, I want to live in a society that is esthetically pleasant and beautiful. Now, to answer your question, which was totally unrelated to that, which is, I just is this, which is if you're gonna get into the graphic arts and all of this, we need to do a better job as conservatives to embrace content creators and create those people at the other side. If you have a passion for that, please try to form yourself into trying to glorify the good and to pursue the wonderful, not trying to disrupt things that work and be like, oh, this is a piece of art because like a Campbell soup can that has like been poured over, which is like some of the stuff in the you guys ever see that video on YouTube where they had like the orange juice spill and they pretended it was a piece of art and people came by and took pictures of it. It's like they could be like it really wasn't, but they persuaded themselves that it was. Is that art should glorify the good, not destroy the ideal. So thank you so much. 00:36:41 Speaker 3: Thanks Charlie. 00:36:48 Speaker 5: Hi, Charlie, I'm lill nervous to bear with me, but I kind of a two parter. 00:36:52 Speaker 1: So first, over the summer, you. 00:36:53 Speaker 5: Had a debate with the YouTuber of vash on the Temple Podcast, and you guys had a conversation about critical theory in school and what the purpose of education should be, and if I believe, if I remember correctly, you said something along the lines of the purpose of education should be to kind of breed gratefulness for being in an awesome, amazing country. 00:37:14 Speaker 1: Could you elaborate on that. Yeah, that's a great question, Thank you for asking it. So education comes from a Latin word which means to lead forth. It literally comes out of socrates allegory of the cave Plato's allegory of the cave as told by Socrates, of leading forth out of darkness into light. So there's this debate right now of what is education, right should education be kind of a buffet line where you present students with all the different options they kind of choose for themselves, or should education be hopefully a commitment to things that are objectively true and good and beautiful and leading young people towards what is the beginning of philosophy, which is wonder like, Wow, there's a world so big outside of things that I'm just beginning to understand, and I know so little of it, but I want to go in the pursuit in the journey of maybe getting closer to it. So those are two different types of definitions, right. So one form of an educational definition is, you know what, we are going to try to sample every single ideology and kids and students choose for themselves. I think that's a mistake. Now, the downside is if you get really really bad teachers, all of a sudden, they're going to use that and they're gonna be like, oh, well, we know Marxism is better than that. So at least we'd prefer the buffet line over serving, you know, breadlines of the equivalent of Marxism. Whereas in its ideal though, in the classical sense, people that are teachers, people that want to lead forth, they need to be willing to make absolute objective claims in three categories, in ethics, in metaphysics, and in politics. That's not political parties, but in certain political systems. And so the correct and the ideal view of education should be that is it. It's so far from that. It's hard to believe anyone here classically educated. You kind of know what I believe here, yeah, and you would know that it's not actually imposing those ideas. It's teaching the fundamentals of Greek, of Latin and Hebrew, reading ancient and great books, and getting closer towards that hopeful end conclusion of a better citizen. And so people say, Charlie, what does a properly educated man look like? A magnanimous man someone that has character. Now character comes from a Greek word which means imprint or tattoo. It's it's etched within you. A properly sold man with character is like the Grand Canyon, where good luck undoing that good luck trying to change that. That's what education should be. A properly sold man is like the grand canny look at it. You're impressed. No matter how much rain storm or opposition happens, that stays input. In fact, education is like the opposite of it. It's like a plate of spaghetti. It changes as you want to. There's no form of it. Does I answer your question or is that I beg another one. 00:39:51 Speaker 5: Kind of because I just feel like, yeah, because I feel like I do agree with some of the things you said about education should be about objective truth and things like that, although I don't think necessarily ethics has like an objective morality to it all the time. But I just the root of your argument with Vosh was kind of he was saying how you were arguing that the purpose of school shouldn't to be to breed like many activists. So from that I kind of get the idea of a whitewashing history a little bit in order to not like breed activism, when in reality, I don't think education should like ascribe a morality to our country. They should kind of just be, like like you said, objective truth history, and then they kind of will make out of it what they got yeah. 00:40:39 Speaker 1: So I would never support whitewashing anything. Obviously. I think that if you fairly and re read the founders as they are, you'll realize these were incredible men, that they were born into a world that they did not create, that by the time that they were exiting the world, slavery was on its way out. But the first ever anti slavery convention was hosted by Benjamin Franklin in Philadelphia in seventeen seventy five. I can go on and on and on, but I think a proper view of history, using original texts, actual quotes, and going into the actual context of the time, I think actually creates a sense of pride and a sense of gratitude for living in that nation. So happy to dive into that further. I don't think we're going to explore that, you know, much more, because I know we're low on time. But I'll say this final thing is that this is where we'll have clarity but not agreement on this one issue. I believe there is an objective ethical code. I believe that there is an objective ethical code of how we treat people that are less powerful than us, of a proper way to organize society of what the highest form of existence for a human being should be. I think one of the great road maps, in addition to the Bible, which is the greatest roadmap, but one of the road maps that isn't taught us Aristotle's ethics of what does a properly sold man look like? Courage, contemplation, justice, friendship, all these things that need to be wrestled with and asked the question about. I think that if we say that there's no such thing as objective morality, then in nothing more than a power dynamic, which some people in control of our country actually believe. But thank you so much for being here tonight, appreciate it. 00:42:08 Speaker 3: Good at evening is to Kirk, how are you great? Hey? 00:42:14 Speaker 6: Everyone, I'm genuinely excited to share something that has made a significant difference in my own life. 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I think it's really important now more so than ever, especially with the infrastructure talks going on in Congress at the moment. How do we get young Americans to care more about taxes than race. 00:44:56 Speaker 1: That's a great question. You might not like my answer, Ye, go ahead. Kevin Brady actually refused to answer. 00:45:03 Speaker 3: He flipped it back on me. 00:45:05 Speaker 1: Well, man, I'm gonna answer it, so like that's fine. Yeah, I mean, I'm not a politician, nor do I want to be, so I actually answer questions and say things that are true regardless of what CNN says. Yeah, I mean, well, first of all, just kind of like, obviously they should care almost nothing about race, but I will. I will kind of say, because Kevin Brady's probably the wrong person or the perfect person I answer this question. I think he's way too fixated on taxes, and you're perfectly honest. I think tax policy is not even close to the most important thing happening to our country, Like, not even close. We have a generation that doesn't share values, we have immigration policy that's intentionally harming us, the destruction of the American family, opiodepidemic, sexual anarchy. Like if you were to say, like this big trade off again, I don't like paying taxes. I pay way too much in taxes. You do, two taxes should be lower. But the kind of pathological fixation that certain Republicans and conservatives have on like lowering corporate tax rates, when it's like, wait a second, divorces are going up, Church Tennis is going down, like our moralities being put in question, and like your whole things like lowering corporate taxes is I think kind of low on the totem pole of actual like society bearing futures. And don't get me wrong, I'm all for free markets and lower taxes. But here's how I'll answer your question, which might not how you might expect it, which is we should care less about taxes, taxes should we should care more about race? Here's what we should care more about. You should care more about the nation, our fellow countrymen, our shared story, our history. And also a very simple question, which is this, what kind of society you want to live in? Do you want to live in a society with super low taxes where no one speaks the same language, we'll all have a different interpretation of history, and we're kind of like the Singaporean colony or do you want to live in a country where all of a sudden, families are getting back together, children are starting to be had again, where all of a sudden we are turning the corner away from some of the slippage morally, I think we're having in our country, hopefully with immigration that prioritizes our fellow countrymen. Do you have a short follow up? Okay, thank you for that question, though, appreciate it so so I want to thank our amazing turning bunio say, students, let me just kind of summarize those together, and thank you for the disagreements, by the way, I appreciate it. And that's courage, it really is. And thank you guys for being respectful of all that. It's very nice. And so a couple things in closing. Number one, I want to reiterate something I said earlier. If every single person commits themselves to being the same in public that you are in private, all of a sudden, the number one form of censorship that has been occurring in America, which is self censorship, starts to go away. The number one form of censorship is you shutting up you or us shutting up us. I do it too, when I get into a family gathering, sometimes I don't want to deal with this right now, like not right now. That is a form of cultural censorship, where all of a sudden, we are allowing that pressure to dictate whether or not we are going to stand for what's right and for what we actually need to articulate. The other thing I'll say is this, which I want to reemphasize this, which is people say, Charlie, how do we win? We win when all of a sudden we stop allowing them to inflict the punishment. We win when all of a sudden we disempower them by showing the matter what you take from me, my salary, my job, my diploma, my friends who aren't really my friends. The thing that matters most is expressing the values and the ideas and the truths that do not change. This country's not going to be saved overnight. People don't like hearing this. We're in a tough spot. They control a lot. From Harvard, The New York Times to Google the Facebook was like the weirdest twenty four hour news cycle of Facebook I've ever seen. But whatever, so so many other different things. The question is this, The question is will people that still believe in the same American story, believe the Constitution, the great political document ever written. That believe natural rights are given to you by God. That believe in life, liberty, and pursuit of happens the laws of nature and Nature's God. And believe in the promise of the declaration that one of the court of human events becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands with another. That the separate equal stations are given to you by continues by say laws of nature and nature God. This is a very important question because we are now on that civilizationalll brink right now of whether or not whether we're going to go the direction that they want us to go, tribal warfare tearing at each other's throats, or we could recommit ourselves. And it starts with this generation eighteen nineteen twenty twenty one year olds in the audience and watching online. You were born into a world you did not create, So you have a choice. You could do the oc thing where you complain about everything, you march in the streets to say, my parents a bunch of idiots, and you know, give me a bunch of stuff. Or you could do this, Hey, I wish my parents would have been more involved in this, but I'm not going to blame them. It says in the Bible very clearly to honor your mother and father, because then you will live long in the land of which you are in. It's the only ten commandment with a promise. Instead, you just say, look, maybe my parents could have been more involved, but they gave me an opportunity to live in the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world. I have things more going for me than not, I mean filled with gratitude, not anger and venom. And say, guess what this generation I'm telling you we now have to lead the other generations that have been sitting by that either don't understand the stakes and circumstances that are just kind of like, oh, things are going to go back to normal. They will only go back to how they were if we put them back to how they were. This is not a gravitational pull argument, like, well, it's gonna go back to how it used to be. So here's the final thing I'll say. When we do that, when we no longer allow them to inflict punishment of us, when we stand together as one and we offer, when we offer a source of a source of not just compassion, but also a source of catching people when they fall. Someone gets fired from their job, you support them because their political beliefs, whatever it might be. Then, all of a sudden, how do we win? We win with each person believing what you do actually matters. We win when all of a sudden we rise up and we dedicate ourselves to not caring about what other people say about us, but what is true objectively and the things that do not change. This country is a beautiful gift from God, everybody, and it's an honor to be here in this state alongside all of you. I want you to vision casts ten twenty thirty years now. I want to say the front page of the New York Times say the following sudden and shocking right turn happened post COVID nineteen pandemic, when Generation Z and Millennials rose up against CRT for freedom in the constitution. I want to see that headline. I know you do too. We're gonna win if we rise up. God bless you guys. Thanks so much for having us on up. 00:51:26 Speaker 3: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com