Markwayne Mullin's Record Deportations + AMA 282

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So he's doing the right thing. This is huge and hugely important. We're getting numbers coming in from Arizona. Nevada, New Hampshire, the three states that we're doing the full ballot chase in at Turning Point Action. And I will tell you, at least in those three states, now, North Carolina is looking not so great, if we're just being honest. But in those three states, there's no Blue Nami. I'm going to call it right now. There's no Blue Nami. Anything can still happen. We got to show up. We got to do it. But the numbers indicate that we are doing better than our 2022 numbers. And I will tell you, in 2022, you remember- We fell 17,000 ballots short, and that included all the shenanigans and all the lines and all the garbage we had to deal with in Maricopa. So good, good first indication. Even Rich Barris, who is not exactly Mr. White Pill. I love Rich, but he'll not be pumping you up full of copium or hopium. Even Rich Barris is saying Nevada and Arizona are massive bright spots on the map. So I'm all for this. One more time, 160 million people will vote in a presidential election. But only 100 million people are probably going to turn out for this midterm. It's all about who shows up. It's all about the base getting out there and saying no to these crazy left wing lunatics. We cannot have these people running our government and the levers of power. And I will explain that in another way in just a second. Blake has a whole rundown on the left's 2029 plan. You want to be freaked out? You want to be terrified at the potential future we are staring at? Wait until Blake gets a hold of you this morning and you're going to love it. I do want to give a special shout out, however, to the brave Good Samaritan in Bend, Oregon. There was a school shooting yesterday while we were live doing our thought crime show. I was seeing the news reports come in. Terrible stuff. And we just want to say thank God that Oregon somehow still has concealed permits and you can still carry a weapon in Oregon. I don't know how that has survived the communists in that state. but it has, and this gentleman was carrying, and there was a shooter in this parking lot. He ended up shooting up the parking lot, and this Good Samaritan's car even got shot up. He trails him inside and takes him out. Unfortunately, a 5, an 8, and an 11-year-old and one teacher were killed before he was able to do this, but he saw him enter the school. The shooter shot the locks on the doors, gets in, breaches the school, He follows him in and takes him out. Thank God. I mean, even CNN, Blake, is praising this guy, saying a lot more kids would have died without this good Samaritan. Yeah, God bless him. Yeah, God bless him. If I ever have a chance to thank you in person, whoever you are out there, I really, really would love the opportunity. I just want to shake your hand because that takes absolute bravery to see. He didn't know what age he was. Turns out the shooter was 16, goes into the school, follows him in, And takes him out. So God bless that man. That is just wonderful. And by the way, Oregon has a lot of great people in it. A ton of great people. That eastern side of that state is about as red-blooded as it gets. So God bless them. All right, Blake. We've heard about Project 2025. Yes. It was much maligned. 00:05:09 Speaker 6: It was a big boogeyman during the election. And, you know, President Trump, he doesn't like other people to sort of muscle in. 00:05:14 Speaker 3: So he's like, I don't. 00:05:15 Speaker 5: I don't know these guys. 00:05:16 Speaker 3: But a lot of those ideas were good ideas, stuff that we would have endorsed anyways. And they were ideas percolating within the ecosystem on the intellectual right. 00:05:24 Speaker 6: And for those who don't remember it, Project 2025, it was work at Heritage and a few other people contributed. But the basic idea was, we all remember Trump's first term took a long time to. 00:05:36 Speaker 5: Get off the ground. 00:05:36 Speaker 6: There was not a lot of understanding of the mechanisms of how government worked. And so we just didn't get as much done in Trump's first term as we all would have wanted. And that's a big reason Trump's second term achieved so much. 00:05:49 Speaker 5: More right away. He rolls in. 00:05:51 Speaker 6: He has all those executive orders. They bring in Doge. They fire a lot of people. They dismantle a lot. That's why we're able to instantly control the border. We're able to instantly do so many more things because they had a better understanding of this. And I want to highlight, this is an article in Vox. Do you remember Vox, guys? You don't hear about Vox.com nearly as much. They were obviously suffocating during Obama's second term. They are still around. And there's an article from Zach Beecham, a writer there who's actually just leaving. It's his last article for them. The Radical Democratic Plan to Change the Government for Good. And what this is outlining is essentially... I love that headline, by the way. 00:06:30 Speaker 3: Yes. For good. 00:06:31 Speaker 6: For good. Double meaning there for sure from these guys. Is it forever or for worse? 00:06:35 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:06:36 Speaker 3: Or for good? 00:06:36 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:06:37 Speaker 6: And it outlines what is, in effect, a Project 2029. And it's a very long article. It's pretty sprawling because, for one... There's not literally a Project 2029 on the left. They, frankly, didn't need any new NGOs, any new projects. They have a ton of them already. It's called almost every other nonprofit in the country. 00:06:56 Speaker 3: I'm half convinced, just for what it's worth, that half of the Democrat base that votes is employed by an NGO. 00:07:02 Speaker 5: Yeah, or like a university. 00:07:04 Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. 00:07:05 Speaker 6: And then local government. And they can create local government departments that just come up with these things. So this, for example, is heavily shaped– by a Cornell law professor. Let me get a name. That is K. Sabeel Rahman is the one person who embodies the real Project 2029's vision. 00:07:22 Speaker 3: Sounds like a real American. 00:07:24 Speaker 5: Yeah, and a professor at Cornell. 00:07:26 Speaker 6: And basically it's just, the whole article is pretty long, but it's essentially making the case that Democrats have now internalized certain theories of Project 2025 that basically as much as they complain about Trump, what they do admire about Trump is his willingness to be visionary, be really aggressive about what you can do with government, throw your weight around a bit. And the construct they have here is, well, we can make a left-wing version of this, a grab bag of policy ideas that will be more ambitious than a prior Democrat administration, but entrench democracy, as they would say. 00:08:03 Speaker 3: And empower the civil service. By our democracy, remember, the left always means our oligarchy. Our democracy equals our oligarchy. Just remember that. And by the way, still in this list are turning Puerto Rico into state, turning D.C. into a state, packing the Supreme Court, and they want to limit presidential powers because they've seen what President Trump has been able to accomplish through his use of executive orders. 00:08:30 Speaker 6: Goals include funding community-based organizations that can both assist in effective policy implementation and organize against federal overreach, a.k.a. funnel your tax dollars to all this like giant network of organizations that can gum it up if a right-wing government ever comes in. And yeah, rewrite the basic structures of DC government by blowing up the filibuster, making DC and Puerto Rico states and overhauling the Supreme Court. He throws this in in a bullet list at the bottom of a bunch. And yet that's clearly the whole game. They say, oh, we're going to blow up the Supreme Court, blow up the filibuster and What their plan is is they want to seize as much territory as possible and just make it immune to anybody undoing it. 00:09:08 Speaker 3: Yes, that's the whole point. It is basically blow up checks and balances. They're trying to Trump-proof a future government. So once they get power, they want to make sure that a guy like Trump, whether it's J.D., Marco, whoever, can never do what Trump did again. That is their whole goal. And they want to insulate Trump. the civil service, meaning federal employees from being fired in the future. We're going to get a permanent bureaucracy, and their whole goal is to make communism more efficient so they can take your wealth, take your money, and give it to the poors that they import. That's the whole idea. All right, so we started this whole segment. Okay, so Trump's out. He's rallying the base. Get out and vote. That's what Charlie wanted for his birthday. That's what we're begging you to do. Go to tpaction.com slash 100. Go chase 100 ballots for us, please. Get a plan to vote. And for all your friends, it's all about baseball. turnout, all about base turnout. And guess what? Because we're staring at a very, very bleak future if these lunatics get power. And the Vox article paints it all out for us. They want to make communism more efficient, more powerful, more powerful. 00:10:14 Speaker 6: I love it where they describe how they... This is one of the paragraphs. Remember, this guy's friendly to them. This renovated federal government would be simultaneously more efficient and more constrained, capable of reacting to economic crises. You can imagine how the left would want to do that. And delivering benefits while simultaneously... incapable of prosecuting the president's political enemies, or wielding ICE against peaceful protesters. 00:10:38 Speaker 3: Oh, get out of here. 00:10:38 Speaker 6: That's such a baffling one because it just shows this muddled idea that ICE is sent in to. 00:10:44 Speaker 5: Beat up protesters. 00:10:45 Speaker 6: And no, what they're really basically saying is, I guess they would want the law to allow random protesters to make it impossible to enforce immigration laws. 00:10:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 00:10:52 Speaker 5: That's what they're saying. 00:10:53 Speaker 3: No, exactly. Because remember, the whole project is a replacement operation. They want to replace America and its institutions, its values, and its people... With third-worlders that will vote for them, and then their whole plan is to turn you into tax cattle. They are going to leech. It reminds me of that image from The Matrix, where all the bodies are just placed on these huge fields, and they're harvesting their life force. 00:11:19 Speaker 6: Their body energy. 00:11:20 Speaker 3: Their body energy. That's what you will become to them. This is what you are in California, by the way. This is what you are in California. They imported the third world, and all the middle class are getting sucked dry. You can never get ahead. Because they make it impossible. They put a ceiling on your wealth creation ability and to get into the higher earning status or to build generational wealth. Because they're going to suck it off you and give it to the poor. That's the whole point. 00:11:43 Speaker 6: What it is is it's also basically a blueprint for anarcho-tyranny. That's essentially what they're laying out. That they're saying this government will have. unlimited power to do left-wing goals and essentially zero power to do something only the right would ever do. So they'll say we're creating limits on government, but that limit will basically be ICE can just never properly arrest or deport. We'll never have proper immigration enforcement. That will be illegal because we believe in a limited government, but we believe in an unlimited government in terms of we're going to hire a vast civil service. We'll insulate that civil service and from the president, because we know the civil service will be left-wing no matter what, so just make it insulated from a president blocking what they want to do, so it can just do left-wing stuff to an unlimited degree. We're going to have unlimited deference from our Supreme Court, which will 100% shut down anything the right wants to do through the Supreme Court. 00:12:33 Speaker 5: It's very much this. 00:12:34 Speaker 6: It's anarcho-tyranny in the sense the left believes in unlimited power to do the things it wants to do, and zero power for the right to do anything. 00:12:41 Speaker 7: It wants to do. 00:12:41 Speaker 3: So you'll never be able to deconstruct their new their communism apparatus. There was a clip from Mamdani I just thought of so that we don't have it. But he said this recently, and he was asking, I think it was on Diovan, where he said, what is socialism? He basically says, where the government gives you everything you need. That's their vision for the future. The same political movement that cannot run the post office thinks that they are going to take care of you from cradle to grave. This is not me throwing out cliches anymore. This is actually what they're saying out loud. Why this will never work. Margie Thatcher, she gave us that line, you eventually run out of other people's money. It's true, but it also is because you run out of it quicker because it leads to malaise. Throw up the GDP per capita graph between us and Canada. Now, I am the $ 20 burrito guy. I understand there are affordability issues because we print too much damn money and we spend too much money as it is, but we are still doing the best out of anybody in the West. Look at this, United States to Canada. That is crazy. The big fork in the road there was Trudeau versus Trump. OK, Trudeau versus Trump. Which way, Western man? Do you want malaise? Do you want an end of productivity? And this is why it's so exciting to tell you this story today, because last night what we saw from Elon Musk in the launch of the Roadster, which was the big news story of the night, was truly something spectacular, something that only pioneering, innovative entrepreneurs could accomplish. The government could never do this, at least not efficiently. And that is the flying car. This actually happened. Show SOT6. Flying cars are real. 00:14:52 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:15:13 Speaker 3: Well, a friend of mine, Peter Thiel, once said that the future promised us flying cars, but instead we got 140 characters. Well, not anymore. That's a good line. 00:15:23 Speaker 5: I mean, it's such a perfect thing. 00:15:25 Speaker 3: Just play it as B-roll. Play 7 as B-roll, what we're talking about here. 00:15:27 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just such a perfect thing. 00:15:29 Speaker 6: We were talking about this before the show, that what stands out about Elon Musk at this point is he's kind of one of the only businessmen in America actively trying to build anything cool and exciting that... You should try to build things in your country that eight-year-olds will think are awesome. Eight-year-old boys will think are awesome. Very few people do that. And that Project 2029, they don't mention it in there. But a thing that would happen with that Project 2029 is when the left gets power, they will make it a priority to destroy Elon Musk. Because he's not one of them. Because he's done things that have upset them. They will try to destroy Tesla. They will try to destroy SpaceX. They will try to. 00:16:04 Speaker 5: They talk about these things. They consider him an enemy. 00:16:06 Speaker 3: This is how powerful SpaceX has become, where it's now a geopolitical hot potato. Ukraine is blaming SpaceX and SpaceShield for, you know, they couldn't send their drones deeper into Russia or whatever. And Elon said, we'll talk to President Trump and the Department of War if you want. But that's how powerful the technologies that he's developed are. The U.S. government is going to sever all ties. I can almost guarantee it. or so coerce him and strongman him that he won't want to do business with the federal government anymore. That is what they're going to do. They might imprison him, though. They might imprison him. They might find some sort of process, whatever. And this guy's inventing flying cars with cold compressed air and suction technology where you can actually go upside down. That is awesome. And that is the power of having an economy and having a market system and a financial system undergirding the entire thing. where we get to build cool things in this country. This is still America. You should be kissing the ground that you walk on, that you get to live in this beautiful country where things like this happen. And the left will destroy it. They are like a plague of locusts. They will come in and destroy every good thing that this country has. 00:17:19 Speaker 1: Why? 00:17:20 Speaker 3: Because they're riddled with grievance and resentment and jealousy and bitterness that they're not richer, more powerful, more influential than they are. They want to destroy you. They want to destroy this country. Zero gratitude. We can't let them. And ultimately, the entire conversation comes down to a debate of ideas. Capitalism versus socialism. Gratitude versus resentment. An important message from Noble Gold Investments. November 3rd, control of Congress is on the line. And whatever happens, your savings are going to feel it. If Democrats take power, we could be looking at years of gridlock, followed by the same policies that fueled inflation before. More spending, bigger deficits, and a weaker dollar. We lived through this already. In June 2022, inflation was out of control and unchecked. Now, the national debt is over $ 40 trillion, and Washington isn't slowing down. What has gold done since 2022? 00:18:13 Speaker 7: Doubled. 00:18:13 Speaker 3: Up over 100%. That's right. You can't control what happens on election day. You can control how prepared you are. That's why so many Americans are turning to physical gold and silver. 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If you show me if you have optimism about the future or pessimism, I can basically predict your next 20, 30 years. So I think you're spot on. Welcome back to the show, though. 00:19:32 Speaker 7: Thank you. I'm very happy to be here. 00:19:34 Speaker 3: So listen, we've got the DSA. We've got Mamdani, El-Sayed. They promise opportunity, dignity for all, you know, But they're underlying what they're talking about is a Marxist ideology. And so it's been failed time and time again. It's based on. government control, government coercion, government seizing the means of production, rigging the game for one set of people against another. Explain how you see this dynamic that is facing the country and you know, why you think it's problematic. 00:20:06 Speaker 7: Well, sure. Let me talk first about the DSA and some of their ideas. They really are Marxist. Sometimes they will say that they're not. They say, oh, we're not really communists. It's a bit puzzling. Pick up their platform, their most recent platform, and read it and see what they talk about. It begins by saying, imagine a world without capitalism, a day without capitalism. And it begins by saying that everything is provided for people including free transportation, free healthcare, free food, free housing, free education, everything. Nothing is going to be, everything is going to be provided by the government. Now, that's been tried, of course, in places like the Soviet Union. If the government provides everything for you, you are dependent of the government. You are a serf. You do what you're told, and that's the way it is. There is no freedom in such a system. Fundamentally, it doesn't work. It doesn't work as far as material wealth and things. But more importantly, it's destructive of freedom. It's spiritually destructive to live under such a system because you are a serf. You're a slave. And ultimately, there's no dignity in that. They say that we're going to stop poverty. You don't stop poverty that way. You stop poverty by creating opportunity for people. My point about the American dream is that really, success... That begins with a mindset that the individual has to have. You want to be successful? You've got to start, you've got to do it yourself. You can't be a dependent. You've got to be self-responsible. And there's a great deal of, you know, we think of, I'm an economist, so people think that we're talking about just material wealth or something. That's not it at all. We're talking about human action. And some of the most fundamental things are people's, you know, their meaning of life. And a meaningful life is one where you actually do things and accomplish things. 00:22:04 Speaker 3: Oh, I totally agree. There's so much about the socialist Marxist ideology that just fundamentally doesn't work. It is incompatible with human nature. I would even go further. I don't even think it's incompatible with human nature. I think it indulges the worst parts of human nature, that it derives a lot from resentment, that it derives from the– It's in all of us to be angry at people who have more than us or who seem better than us. It's a real thing to be resentful of people who are more talented, more driven, more accomplished than you. 00:22:39 Speaker 1: And you can. 00:22:39 Speaker 5: Respond to that positively or negatively. 00:22:41 Speaker 3: Exactly. But my point is that if everybody is not incentivized to produce more, the macro system will have less. And so I'm thinking in 30,000-foot terms, but you could think of a lot of sort of On the ground where the rubber meets the road, real life examples, too. But on the aggregate, if all of us are just sort of said has the mindset of a bus driver on a on a public bus where we clock in and we clock out and that's all we do. That's all because that kind of is what their idea of human dignity is, that nobody would have to work their fingers to the bone and they would have everything provided for them. But the problem is, is that when you put that out into a macro level, the system does not have enough to meet all of those needs. It just will not work fundamentally. I don't know if what I'm saying is making sense to you, Dr. Steele, but perhaps you could shed some light on what I'm grasping at here. 00:23:36 Speaker 7: You're both actually making some sense here. So first of all, is socialism compatible with human nature? Humans have a very complex nature. And one of the things, some people gravitate to socialism or think it's a good idea. And so I guess you could say, well, if people do it, it's part of their nature. But there's something a little different. There's envy and things like that, and that's a part of human nature. A friend of mine, a retired philosophy professor, not from Hillsdale, pointed this out. And he's very concerned with the plight of poor people and things. But he said that it isn't that the working poor that he knows are resentful of people who have wealth or have more than them. They're resentful of people who didn't earn it, who didn't get it fairly. If they earned it fairly, most people tend to say, well, you earned it. You're wealthy because you earned it. And that's entrepreneurship that puts people in those places. If you got it through government privilege, that's a different thing. And that causes a great deal of, of course, I think, deserved resentment. The thing that the socialists tend to cultivate is the feeling of victimhood, the feeling that people didn't earn their wealth, that nobody, that we don't, you know, if there are billionaires, somehow that's bad for everyone else because they have a lot. They have a lot because they created a lot more for other people, and you get wealthy that way. So they've made the world better for everyone else. You create value, you earn profits. 00:25:16 Speaker 3: Absolutely agree. You know, we were just talking about Elon Musk and it's it's hilarious because the left wants to crush him, destroy him, seize his wealth, seize, you know, basically do whatever they can to destroy his companies as well. And this is coming from the same organization or same ideology, rather, that thinks that they can run everything efficiently, but they can't run the post office. They can't run the DMV. They can't run public hospitals. OK, so this is something isn't going to math up here. But let me challenge you a little bit with some of the thoughts that our younger people are confronted with on college campuses, that there are excesses in the free market, right? There are industries that can somehow coalesce and they get through acquisition or whatever, and you get these monopolistic powers, right? You get powers that could exceed the government in some ways. What is the proper role when it comes to interacting between the government and the market forces and private industry. 00:26:15 Speaker 7: Well, I might challenge, first of all, some of the claims that are made about monopoly. 00:26:19 Speaker 3: Please do. I'm expressing what our kids are hearing. 00:26:22 Speaker 7: Right. I understand. Yes, I understand. But maybe we need to not just say, well, don't accept the opposition arguments at face value. 00:26:32 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:26:33 Speaker 7: Right. Don't allow, and this is something people should always do, don't allow the other side to frame the terms of debate because they will put you into a box where they will change the meaning of words and then you find yourself trying to defend something that can't be defended from their perspective. But, so for example, monopoly. What is monopoly? Monopoly is actually the case where a firm dominates a market, a particular market, a particular industry, and reduces the amount of stuff that it makes Therefore, with a smaller amount of stuff being put on the market, the price will be higher and they wield these market powers, monopoly power. It is not the case where you have one large industry or one large firm or business in an industry. That may not be a monopoly at all. And a great example of this is SpaceX. SpaceX last year did more than half of the launches of rockets into space for the entire world. The rest of the world, including NASA, the Chinese, the Russians, everyone else. 00:27:39 Speaker 3: And Rocket Lab. 00:27:41 Speaker 7: And Rocket Lab and everyone else did less than half the launches in the world. SpaceX actually put up 80% of the tonnage, the mass that was put onto orbit last year. They're not a monopoly. They're just really, really effective, and they have lowered the cost, not raised it. 00:28:07 Speaker 3: We get more and more stuff. 00:28:10 Speaker 6: Dr. 00:28:10 Speaker 3: Steele, I'm kind of going back in my mind to kind of Teddy Roosevelt, trust-busting. 00:28:14 Speaker 7: Standard oil. 00:28:15 Speaker 3: That was tobacco. That was meatpacking, standard oil, the railroads. He determined that it was not in the best interest of the public at that time. And Teddy is a guy that a lot of conservatives are looking at in a renewed way in this era. saying are there lessons to glean from that when we're talking about the free market? 00:28:33 Speaker 7: On some issues, they should not look to him, and Standard Oil is one. Standard Oil, when it took over a market, actually reduced the prices and increased the amount of oil that went on the market. They were reaping what we call in economics economies of scale. By doing things on a large scale, they made it better for consumers, and when the government intervened and broke that up, they made consumers worse off. 00:28:55 Speaker 3: Okay, what about the other ones? Meatpacking. What about railroads? 00:29:00 Speaker 7: Meatpacking. Meatpacking is interesting because that was orchestrated by small packers who didn't like the competition, and it was an example of regulatory capture. Railroads, the only railroad that did not go bankrupt was the Great Northern, James J. Hill, and the ones that were subsidized by the federal government and controlled by them all went bankrupt. There should not be a great deal of government intervention in the market because it tends to skew things and create monopolies. 00:29:34 Speaker 8: I want to talk a little bit about socialism, right? 00:29:36 Speaker 1: Because it's a buzzword, right? 00:29:38 Speaker 2: Because socialism, will you define socialism for us? 00:29:42 Speaker 6: Because people say it a lot and don't know what it is. 00:29:44 Speaker 3: And sometimes those people are me. 00:29:48 Speaker 4: I'm so happy to be with those people right now. Socialism to me, it means that you will have whatever you need to live a dignified life. and that it is the government's job to deliver on that. 00:30:04 Speaker 3: Wow. Whatever you need to live a dignified life. 00:30:09 Speaker 5: An excellently flexible definition. 00:30:11 Speaker 3: I would love for him to define what he thinks is a dignified life for me, because currently I get to define that for myself. And Mr. Mamdani, Mr. Ugandan Muslim socialist slash communist, communist uh doesn't and i'm really excited that he doesn't yet and uh anyways that's a very interesting definition dr steel when you hear him say that and i do want to get back into trust busting but because it's all interrelated uh because he wants to seize the means of production when he doesn't like it when he doesn't like who it favors when he doesn't like the outcomes of it but there is this you know i have so many questions for you just respond to mom donnie first and then i'm going to get into what we call common good Well, I wouldn't call. 00:30:57 Speaker 7: What he was saying, I wouldn't say what he was saying was socialism, but I would say, yes, what you really need to live a dignified life is freedom. And yes, the government should protect that for you. I guess I found some common ground with Mamdani and I'm astonished. 00:31:15 Speaker 3: No, that was barely common ground. You actually contradicted him brilliantly in a beautiful way. 00:31:20 Speaker 7: Twisting things a little bit. Actually, his point about socialism is that you cannot be a ward of the state and live a dignified life. It just cannot happen. That's a contradiction. 00:31:34 Speaker 3: Yeah. Amen. So we're talking about trust busting. You had some great historical knowledge to kind of I guess deconstruct some of my misperceptions of it or common misperceptions of what Teddy Roosevelt did. All right. But we have a concept called common good capitalism, right? You're hearing it a lot. Common good conservatism, where there is a propensity to look at economic outcomes and ask the question, does this benefit our national security, our national interests, our American workers? This is where tariffs, that debate comes in a lot. And we have this whole thing about AI, you know, is AI going to destroy us? So, These are the criticisms of unfettered free market capitalism. I don't know if you want to chime in here. 00:32:17 Speaker 6: I was thinking just because we talked about stuff in the past, but I think there's a widespread sense, certainly among young people, but really people of all ages– It does seem with the AI age that's inaugurating, it just feels different from prior eras. If we're going to talk about, for example, the power of large firms. I was reading something coming on the way in. This is a guy on, I believe, Hacker News, so a tech-related website. I've been having a silent panic attack for the last three days. I don't have anyone to talk to that would understand my concern. I run a small audio company. We make guitar pedals and audio effects. And what he goes on to describe in his post is that with AI... It is possible for someone to basically completely dissect every single facet of every single product on his market now. So every single technical moat that has ever existed, you actually can't go and build your own better product because your competitor could instantly figure out exactly what it is and just make it. So if you're already the largest manufacturer, for example, you can just out-compete anyone. And I feel like people are starting to wonder, is that going to be the case forever? for everything now. That now, whoever owns the machines that can basically generate AI can just control everything. Right, okay. 00:33:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, I see your point. So these are the challenges to this idea of unfettered free market capitalism. 00:33:38 Speaker 6: Basically they're going to say we need socialism because we've built a machine that can just generate infinite intelligence and no one can compete with that and whoever they talk about this where they have lingo in silicon valley that this is your last chance to escape the global underclass as they call it by getting among the people who own the robots as they say i guess what would your response to that be uh. 00:34:01 Speaker 7: This time It's a bit of an inside joke for me, but this time is different. In one sense, this is nothing new. This goes back to the original, the Luddites, saying that, well, now that we have the mechanical loom, there will be nothing for humans to do. We're going to be replaced. I don't think that's going to happen. For a counter view to what you're hearing, I was interviewing a an expert that works for an AI company, and they do a lot of AI, artificial intelligence consulting. And they do this for city governments and things, people who want to learn to use AI and need it to solve a problem. She pointed out to me something pretty interesting, because I said, you know, does this mean there'll be economies of scale and there'll just be a few big firms that run things? Like what you're warning about. She said, I don't really see it that way. Right now, small mom and pops are at a disadvantage, in particular because of laws, regulations, and things like that, and they can't handle it. Great example would be the practice of medicine. There's basically no such thing anymore as an independent doctor. Everybody has to be part of a very large practice because to do medicine, you have to have an IT staff, you have to have a legal staff, you have an accounting staff, and a single doctor can't handle it. Maybe could handle it. once that can be automated with AI. And so actually this may free people to use their creative skills a great deal more. I think that it is much more of a mindset thing that people just become fearful of advance and change. 00:35:44 Speaker 3: I think I agree with you on that because they did the same thing as you said with the loom, but also the railroad and also the dot-com. We've seen this time and time again, the combustible engine. And so far, we've managed to find jobs for everybody, or at least most of everybody. But when we talk about government's role interacting with the free market, like I said, this common good, I don't love using that. But the idea of directing capital flows so that they would better serve the national interest, is that something that you're open-minded to, right? When it comes to COVID, we couldn't make vitamin C in the country or PPE or whatever. Is that something that resonates with you or do you still have issues with that? 00:36:27 Speaker 7: It does not resonate. Well, it mostly does not resonate with me. One problem is that the people who typically, the people who talk about common good have their own personal definition of what common good is. It's not really something that we all have in common. It tends to be one person's vision for what is good. I'm very skeptical of that. It starts getting into a central planning mentality. Now, if you say, are there certain industries that we do need to preserve for purposes of defense and security, then it starts to make some sense. And I have some things to say about how that might be done. But I don't think it's having the government. I know that it's not having the government take over the economy and start directing capital because government is remarkably poor at that. 00:37:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's safe to say that the U.S. government, but Governments in general are the least efficient distributors of capital that have ever existed in the history of humanity. This is why guys like Elon Musk, we're champions of. Dr. Steele, we're out of time. This was really fun. We have to keep this going, though, because these are the real central questions that young people are facing when it comes to questions of capitalism in the economy. 00:37:42 Speaker 7: Thank you. 00:37:43 Speaker 3: Hillsdale, charlieforhillsdale.com. Everybody needs to check it out. Allow me to ask you a quick question. When was the last time, if ever, you got a second opinion on your mortgage? Or if you're renting, have you ever wondered if owning a home might actually be more within reach than you think? 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We went over the 20 promises President Trump made in the 24 campaign and how well he did on them. and the first two were secure the border and have the largest deportation operation in American history. 00:39:54 Speaker 3: 17 out of 20 promises firmly kept. Isn't that crazy? Here's some graphics for you if you want to look. That is the southwest border encounters under President Trump. They said it couldn't be done, and then you guys have done it. 00:40:08 Speaker 1: Well, Biden said he needed a Congress staff. The American people said, no, we just need a new president. 00:40:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Go to the next graph here because some of these– Danny knows what I'm talking about. That's deportations. 00:40:19 Speaker 5: I think, yeah, ice arrests. 00:40:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is great, too, because you see where you got hired on the job there, that little moment where you're reconfiguring everything. And now look at those numbers. 00:40:31 Speaker 5: Monthly records. 00:40:31 Speaker 3: Like a rocket ship. And then show the Cato one, because this is actually my favorite one. Did you know that Cato was going to be your chief PR spokesperson? No, I didn't. These are legal immigrants. 00:40:46 Speaker 6: Every day the Cato Institute of Libertarian Think Tank is putting out these whiny tweets that are like, legal immigration is at the lowest level in ages. They're not letting in refugees anymore. 00:40:56 Speaker 1: You know all we did right here is Joe Edlow with USCIS is a genius. And unfortunately, out of all of my components, of 22 components, he probably has the highest death threats. And it's because he's a Jewish American. And it's sad. 00:41:13 Speaker 3: Oh, wait, so you're saying a Jewish American is behind this, that graph right there? 00:41:19 Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about. Well, he didn't make the graph, obviously. 00:41:22 Speaker 5: Oh, I know, but. 00:41:24 Speaker 1: But Joe Edlow, when we sat down and talked, first of all, he... He looks like an attorney. He acts like an attorney. And I don't know if he is, but he misses calling. But he is whip smart. But he also knows immigration policy better than anybody that I have been around. And he can quote the law. And he sat down and talked to me. He's like, look, these are our loopholes. that we've identified with these visas that's coming in, that these countries are taking advantage, universities are taking advantage of, chain migration, businesses that are taking advantage of it, naturalizations, all this stuff. And he says, this is what we can do to close these little polls. And I said, why hasn't it been closed? He said, I just need authorization. I said, Joe, do it. So I'd like to take credit for it. It came to me. 00:42:12 Speaker 3: No, you should take credit for it. 00:42:13 Speaker 1: All we had to do was just authorize it. You said do it. But it wasn't that policy had to be changed. It just had to be enforced, which is why I go back to this all the time and I say, inside the Department of Homeland Security, we don't make the laws. We enforce our nation's laws, and we're not picking and choosing. We're enforcing them across the board. 00:42:33 Speaker 6: I mean, it was just such a farce that— biden and the democrats ran with us for years this idea that oh america doesn't have the laws to allow it to protect itself from being invaded by unlimited we have a suicide pact because you know we're so divided. 00:42:46 Speaker 1: Yeah so do you know do you know what what is the most frustrating thing that i dealt with the first few months i'm in office i don't deal with it now but when i first came in as secretary is people started with no and not everybody but a lot of these play a lot of these especially careers i'm not saying anything bad about it because i'm telling you i have 270 000 Patriots that work for me. But careers are used to a certain way that's always been done. And they always say they would say, well, sir, we can't do this because. And I'd be I would stop and I say, is it statute or is it a rule? 00:43:20 Speaker 3: A rule. 00:43:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, we can change statute. I can't. A rule means we wrote and we created a bureaucracy. If it's statute, we'll comply. If it's a rule, we're going to change the rule and we're going to move. And that's what we did. 00:43:34 Speaker 3: So so when you go to that Cato graph on legal immigration, because and listen, I'm going to say some things. You don't have to endorse them. But for me, I've been raging against legal immigration. I think we have too much. I think there's too many loopholes. We let in people that don't like us. All these things. 00:43:49 Speaker 1: Right. 00:43:50 Speaker 3: So when I see this, I mean, I literally stood up and started clapping. I wanted to send a thank you note to the Cato Institute for putting in such a beautiful graph for us. 1.2 million green cards a year is what we were doing under Biden. And that's the state of Montana every year. That's the state of Arkansas every three years. Just masses of people coming in. Masses. Masses. 00:44:13 Speaker 1: And that's not including the refugees, the TPS. 00:44:16 Speaker 3: Exactly. So is that by statute or is that rule? So do we have to have 1.2? Or are you able, according to this graph, are you able to say, hey, where there's rules that allow, that we wrote, that we can sort of interpret the way we need to to serve the interests of the country. 00:44:32 Speaker 1: We don't interpret the way we need to. We just interpret it. What we're doing, the laws were actually pretty tight. In 1959, when a lot of this stuff was done, because if you think of true overhaul immigration enforcement, most of the laws we're dealing with today was written in 1959. Now, people talk about 1983. underneath the Reagan administration. That wasn't really laws. That was just really more of an executive order that the president worked with. There wasn't a law there, but that also led to the amnesty that we're all scared about. But since then, people just laxed it. They didn't enforce it fully to its intent. What we do is we go back and we look at it. What was the intent of And what's the actual statute say? And then we apply it. We didn't have this mass immigration, this mass amount of people coming in during the 80s, during the 90s, during the 70s, during the 60s. And mind you, during the 70s, we came out of Vietnam War. We had a huge influx of the Asian population that came in. After World War II, we had a huge influx of Asia, especially from China, that came in to the United States. We had a huge influx from all over Europe that came in. But we still didn't see the influx we're having today. So why is it so much larger now? It's because we weren't actually looking at who we were bringing into the country, and we had the authority to do that. We wasn't actually using biometrics. Now, back then they didn't have biometrics, but they had other ways to look at it. We do have that now. We can find someone's background. We can actually see their full intent. We can see what their history is. And one thing that we applied because of President Trump's leadership is, Are they going to be a contributor to a society or are we going to be taking care of them the rest of their life? Do they have the ability to stand on their own or are they going to be filing for government assistance from the first time they step in? Simply applying that knocks down a load of individuals. 00:46:28 Speaker 6: Speaking of knocking down loads of individuals, we saw that chart. You're getting record arrests. Does DHS have a way of tracking and estimating the self-deportation side of things. And how do they calculate it? 00:46:43 Speaker 1: I hate the word self-deportation. Because self-deportation means 90% of those individuals actually were in custody. But after we process you and say, okay, you're going to the detention center to start the process. Every detention center has iPads. And we have about one iPad per about five to ten people. individuals locked up and they can watch movies they can contact their attorney they can they can play games they check it out like you do libraries right but on the beginning on the front of it every time you hit that you hit the the the the pad to light it up there's a button that says self-deport every time and it says in a smiley face and it's a smiley face yes and it's a it's. 00:47:26 Speaker 7: Orange and. 00:47:29 Speaker 1: And so it looks like a round smiley face, you know, like, you know, a happy face. 00:47:33 Speaker 5: And it's like, want to get out of here? 00:47:34 Speaker 1: And it says, hey, you want to go? We'll pay you $ 3, 000 and we'll put you on a plane. As soon as you hit this button, we'll start the process. So they're sitting there. You can imagine by week two, they're sitting there and they're going, you know, this sucks. I want to go home. We want to help you go home. And so that's where 90% of the self-deportations come from. These aren't individuals that's walking across the border and saying, hey, bye, I'll see you. Later, the rest of them are individuals who just contacted us and said, hey, I want to go home. Does that still apply? 00:48:00 Speaker 3: I hope there's a larger population, though, of just some Guatemalan in the suburbs of Chicago that's like, I don't have my papers. I'm just going to leave. Or I'm getting on the CBP home app. 00:48:13 Speaker 1: Well, that's the problem. A lot of this is they don't have papers. And so the country they're wanting to go to, we can't put them on a plane because maybe you've got to have a passport. So for you to get on an international flight, what do they do before you get on an international flight when you fly commercial right now? Check your passports. Check your passports, right. A lot of these guys don't have passports. They don't have documentations. So almost 100% of the individuals that do leave, other than the ones going to Mexico, we have to work with that country they're going to to get documentations. That usually takes a week or two. That's something that I didn't realize until I got in this position too. So self-deportation doesn't mean you left on your own. That just meant that you didn't go through the court system. So to be self-deported costs us about $ 5, 500 per person. To go through the court system, it costs us $ 8, 250 per person. So it saves us money to get to do this paperwork. Money well spent. I've actually been trying to change that word from self-deportation to assisted deportation because that's really what it's about. 00:49:19 Speaker 3: That's very Trump. 00:49:20 Speaker 7: Of you, right? 00:49:20 Speaker 3: Superintelligence. 00:49:23 Speaker 1: There is no anything else but superintelligence. I'm not even saying the other word. The president made that very clear on his true social post. 00:49:30 Speaker 6: I just want to flag, because there's so many, we try to emphasize why these midterms matter. It's not one step back, that there's been huge progress, and Democrats would love to undo this. And there's a great, maybe you've even heard of this guy, he's Prowler on X, and he's like an account, he has like a video game avatar, but all he does is post-immigration. 00:49:47 Speaker 5: Wins from the administration. 00:49:48 Speaker 7: Right. 00:49:48 Speaker 6: This is one from literally last night. It just says, in Concord, California, a very left-wing court, relief granted to aliens who request it has cratered from 30% to 2%. Removal orders have more than tripled this year, hitting an all-time high. How are you getting the immigration courts to be much less of a bureaucratic hurdle than they. 00:50:09 Speaker 1: Used to be? That is Stephen Miller working with DOJ. Stephen Miller is a logistic... If I was going to start up a company to do cargo or anything that's going to require logistics, I don't care if it's shipping, whatever it is, I'm bringing Stephen Miller with me. He just sees it. He sees three, four levels down. And so every time we have a DOJ win and we get it in court, we are– We can apply that to the next case. So it's kind of like the environmentalist underneath the sue and settle that started really heavy underneath the Obama era with environmentalist. You're right. They would go in, they sue EPA, and then the EPA would settle and it would create a court case that they would go back and then reapply it. We do the same thing with immigration. We have a rinse and repeat issue with immigration. 00:51:05 Speaker 4: TPS. 00:51:07 Speaker 1: Is we see the same thing over again. Asylum, we see the same thing over again. Different cases that we come in with false documentation, we see it. So every win speeds it up. However, we still have roughly, I'm using a rough number here, but we have roughly 80,000 people right now in detention that is waiting to be deported, but we're waiting on either the country to accept them, paperwork to come in, or the court cases, and we are 1,500 judges behind. DOJ, once again, is working with us to help eliminate that, but every time we win a court case, which is kind of funny because we got these liberal groups that sue us all the time, we win almost every one of these cases because we have a law on our side. You can't, like I said, I'm going to repeat myself, I don't make the laws, I enforce the laws. So when we're enforcing the law, it's pretty cut and dry. So I don't care how liberal the judge is, when we set it in front of them, they have to read and interpret the law the same way we do. And so every time they sue us, we get a win, they actually speed up the deportation process. 00:52:12 Speaker 3: Right, that's great. 00:52:13 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:52:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, so one of the other things that I think you've done a phenomenal job on is, you know, this protest movement that erupted in Minneapolis with the surge there. We haven't seen it as bad. I mean, obviously they... Saw a model. They want to rinse and repeat, right? That's exactly what they want to do. So they want that, right? 00:52:33 Speaker 1: They tried it in New York. 00:52:34 Speaker 3: They tried it in New York. That's exactly what I was about to get to. So you had this story. A New York PD detective was ambushed and stabbed seven to ten times. I'm seeing two different numbers. By two illegals from the Dominican Republic. 00:52:48 Speaker 7: Then. 00:52:48 Speaker 3: In that same kind of time frame, another illegal from the DR, Oscar Delgal, this was the one they tried to protest on, was shot after he tried to ram ICE officers and flee. This was crazy. His rap sheet includes robbery, assault, grand larceny. This did not stop some of the hardcore guys from trying to protest what happened there. 00:53:07 Speaker 1: Weapons violation, gang affiliation. 00:53:10 Speaker 3: This guy, this guy's crazy. And actually, I love it because Bruce Blakeman's actually using this against Kathy Hochul in the debates. $ 16, 000. 70 ICE detainers in New York alone. These people have been charged or convicted of 52,503 crimes. You have 16,000 foreigners that should not be here. They are illegals that you guys are trying. You're begging them. Give us these people. And they're convicted of 52,000 crimes. And Kathy Hochul is defending keeping them in her city. 00:53:41 Speaker 7: Ha! 00:53:41 Speaker 3: Ha! It's maddening because it's so obvious to people like you and me that this does not make your people safer. This does not make New York better. It makes it weaker. It makes it more crime riddled. How is that process going? Because I know that was one of your big pushes to say, hey, just cooperate with us. If you don't like the raids, you don't like the big group of 12 dudes coming in trying to arrest one person because you need the defense, you need the security, the backup, because that's dangerous. It's way safer to do it at the prison level, at the jail level. How's that effort going? 00:54:11 Speaker 1: Well, Oscar, let's use Oscar, for example. He has only been in the country three years. He had that long of a rap sheet. He was arrested when he first got to the country in 23 on criminal charges. He's been on probation for three years and he's been arrested multiple times. And New York City kept releasing him. Just think about this. They threw a big fit. The mayor threw a big fit. about us going and apprehending him. But we're like, well, wait a second, we had a detainer on him. If you would have just handed him to us, we wouldn't have been in the neighborhood. And then this same neighborhood in the Bronx was in approximate areas where this individual that was stabbed seven times, NYPD officer was stabbed seven times in the Bronx by also two individuals from Dominican Republic that had the same exact rap sheet, not exact, but same lengthy rap sheet as Oscar did. And we also had a detainer on one of those individuals. If they would just release these guys to our custody and allow us to ship them out, they're illegals, right? It's not like they're LPRs. It's not like they had a visa. Even if they did, by the way, it would be revoked. But they didn't have any legal status when they were arrested to begin with. So this isn't even like should be controversial. Hand them to us. Think of how many criminals we get off the streets. President Trump said this very clearly. Two percent of the population creates 90 percent of the crimes. 00:55:26 Speaker 3: Two percent. 00:55:27 Speaker 1: Now, if you think about the 20 million plus individuals that came over during the Biden administration and how many of those are gangbangers. I mean, just that just since President Trump's been in office, we've arrested 2,268 terrorists that were released into this country underneath the Biden administration. Now, these aren't individuals that were on a watch list. These were terrorists that we were looking for, and they were inside our country that were released or snuck into the country underneath the Biden administration. 00:55:58 Speaker 3: 2,268. 00:55:58 Speaker 6: It really is like the obstacles you face from New York, California. The only way you can describe it is they literally want the worst criminals to be in the United States. 00:56:08 Speaker 1: So let's think about this. This is something that if you get on your phone and you ask Chet, GPT or is it GTP? I don't think it's GPT. If you ask it, how do you change a red state to blue? It'll tell you that you got to change the demographics. If you go in there, unless they've changed this, because I use this example all the time. And if you also change it, how do you change a democracy to a socialist? It also says change the demographics. 00:56:40 Speaker 5: I want to just say this. I went to Claude and I said, how do you change a red state to blue? The very first bolder thing, demographics and migration. 00:56:48 Speaker 1: There you go. Right. So if you're going to. 00:56:51 Speaker 3: That's it. Please put this on social. 00:56:55 Speaker 1: So if you're going to change our country, you have to change the demographics. And if you're going to take us from a republic... To a socialist country, you have to create chaos. And to create chaos, it's because you can say, hey, look, what you have isn't working. You need another form of government. So therefore, a socialist, we're going to take care of it for you. And then you go from socialist to communism. And then, by the way, it's failed, too, and you try to come back and reclaim your democracy. That's their whole goal. That's why this whole open border, 20 million-plus individuals coming to the country, wanting to legalize them, wanting amnesty because they know they can change the demographics of it. And if you have the criminals that come in, it creates chaos on your streets. Therefore, they can say, hey, look, what you have isn't working. If you defund the police, if you try to if you try to what civilian what's the mayor. 00:57:45 Speaker 3: Of of civilian arrest? 00:57:47 Speaker 1: Yes. Civilian. They want to they want to. The mayor of Chicago just came out with a press conference. I read it yesterday. That he's going to take portions of the police to help balance their budget to change it to a civilian population. 00:57:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like social workers. 00:58:01 Speaker 1: And you're going, no, that doesn't work because if we don't enforce our nation's laws, we become a lawless nation. If you become a lawless nation, then you start having a fell state. When you start having a fell state, then you start looking for a different form of government. Therefore, you have socialism. That's what I think they're playing with. 00:58:14 Speaker 5: Everything is downstream. 00:58:15 Speaker 6: I was reading about a very historic restaurant business in Los Angeles is basically saying it's going out of business because they can't afford power bills. But another facet of that is because California is such a lawless anarchy on immigration and everything else, For example, every legal restaurant in LA is getting destroyed because they have illegal food trucks everywhere. The government brags about this, and they just openly say, we're not going to enforce any of our health laws, any of our location laws, any of our parking laws, any of our disability laws. All those laws that make it so impossible to be a legal citizen business owner in LA do not apply if you're an illegal immigrant who wants to just run an illegal food truck. 00:58:54 Speaker 1: And keep in mind, the Democrats sold sanctuary cities and sanctuary states as Humane because they're doing it for these poor illegals that are needing a place to have safe haven. Now what you've seen is a whole ushering in of other illicit activity. Of course. The safe haven that these cities and these states create is you have child molesters, so you have predators that are running wild. You have rapists. You have murderers. Just in New York City right now in detention, we have over 250 illegals that murdered somebody. That's 250 Americans that should have been alive today because they were murdered. Yeah, I'm just saying in New York. 00:59:33 Speaker 7: No, I know. 00:59:34 Speaker 1: I'm just saying they could have murdered two or three people. Yeah, could have been. But I'm just using a simple number. You start looking at what all comes out of this, the drug activity that flows out of these cities and goes into other parts of the country that aren't sanctuary cities. It all starts because of their lack of enforcement of just our nation's laws or their own laws. 00:59:55 Speaker 3: Right. Well, and You talk about humane. I hate when they use the word humane because it's anything but. 01:00:00 Speaker 1: It's 100% anything but. 01:00:02 Speaker 3: There was 450,000 migrant children that they just lost, and you're tracking them down, right? How many of them were raped? 01:00:09 Speaker 1: In the last two weeks, we found 3,300 kids out of the 450. So out of the 450,000 kids, we found just over 160,000. The problem is a bunch of them are aging out. And when they age out, meaning they get to 18, whole other issue about trying to find them. And it's sad because once you hit 18, you become adult. There's different rules that apply, especially for us. States, their human services agencies don't work with us, not like the blue states were doing that anyways. But we found just in Houston a few weeks ago, A 12-year-old that was zip-tied, hand-zip-tied, on the side of the street that was running that had escaped. She had been trafficked for years. This was just a few weeks ago. 12-year-old. Humane. She had been raped for years. 01:01:08 Speaker 3: What's so evil about this. 01:01:10 Speaker 1: And by the way, she was an immigrant, too. Well, I say immigrant. She was trafficked. 01:01:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is what's so infuriating about this. Basically, you know, we're having this whole affordability debate, which is not really your bailiwick these days. It was when you were a senator. But, you know, and the Democrats, their whole plan is they say, well, we're going to make things affordable again. And gas prices, it's like, listen, okay, you guys closed down the refineries. You guys wanted high gas prices to usher in the EV revolution in the first place. But when you talk about affordability, their whole plan is to say we're going to tax basically native-born Americans– to then hand out welfare checks to all these third-worlders that we bring in. This whole millions and millions and millions of people are just going to keep coming in because they want to replace the demographics so that they can take everything in a new direction, burn it down, destroy our institutions, destroy the republic. Anyways, the point is, that is the whole process. That's the whole project. And that's why you represent a Ground zero in their fight. That's why they call ICE the Gestapo. That's why they are so hell-bent on destroying and obstructing what you're doing, because they know that if they can replace the population, then they're going to be successful in their project eventually. 01:02:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, but let's talk about the— I can talk about affordability because it actually affects us a little bit. Every city that has worked with us with immigration policy— now, mind you, the left will say, if you come in and you take all of our laborers, prices are going to skyrocket. Let me tell you what's happened. And the city's just cooperated. When we went in and we've done strong law enforcement, immigration law enforcement, working with locals, meaning that they're working part of the 287G program. They do most of the work. We just are transporting at that point. Six percent drop in housing prices. 01:02:51 Speaker 3: Rents, yeah, and houses. 01:02:52 Speaker 1: Six percent. 01:02:53 Speaker 9: Why? 01:02:53 Speaker 1: Because the illegal population is taking up so much of the housing. Six percent drop. On the affordability. Now, that's your base, right? You've got to have a place to live. You've got to have a place to house. And then you see job markets start increasing. You're not seeing the workload stop. You're just seeing wages increase. And you're not seeing prices go up because people are still competing for the job because guess what? We're not competing against the illegal businesses anymore. Now people are competing for the job that's out there, and they're paying the wage that needs to be paid for that skilled labor. 01:03:29 Speaker 3: Well, I saw a story out of southern Texas where a bunch of these small business owners, whether it was car tinting, putting wraps on cars, car stereos. All the Americans got pushed out of business because once the illegal flood came in, those were the first jobs they took. 01:03:43 Speaker 7: Trucking. 01:03:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, trucking. 01:03:44 Speaker 1: Look at CDL when they were putting no name given on CDLs and putting all these illegals on the streets. 01:03:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, you guys are doing hero's work and we have so little time and I could talk to you forever about this stuff. 01:03:54 Speaker 5: I just want to shout that out. 01:03:55 Speaker 6: I checked and, of course, road deaths are also going down in the United States right now. 01:03:59 Speaker 3: Imagine that. 01:04:00 Speaker 1: Now, I want to say this. You guys keep saying the work I'm doing. I'm... I just empowered the men and women that work for me to do their job. 01:04:08 Speaker 5: That's the job my orcas did not do. 01:04:11 Speaker 1: But they are doing the job. I just came from a couple of facilities here, and everywhere I go, as I say, look, I walked into an agency that had been shut down for 40-plus days. I heard 270,000 patriots. I have other cabinet members that say, our agency's full of bureaucracy and careerists. I walk into an agency that had been tested. They didn't quit doing their job. They didn't quit Protecting the homeland. They didn't walk off the job. They weren't doing remote working. They were showing up every single day for free. And I get to be part of that. And so those men and women, all they need to say is go do your job. And they've done it. 01:04:47 Speaker 3: We're going to do rapid fire here because I only got you for like three more minutes here. 01:04:51 Speaker 1: Sounds like my wife when I come home. 01:04:52 Speaker 3: All right, so I do want to give you a shout-out. Under President Trump and Secretary Mullen, DHS announces lowest fiscal year border crossings in American history. So shout-out. That just came out today. 01:05:01 Speaker 1: 17 months, zero releases. 01:05:03 Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. It's fantastic. It's just unbelievable. Okay, but I'm going to– okay. We've seen that graph. Danny, if you can put up the graph again of the deportations, the ICE arrests. It's going up. 01:05:14 Speaker 5: How high could it go? 01:05:15 Speaker 3: Is it going to keep going up, or are we kind of hitting... Because at some point, it becomes really hard to find these people and arrest them. But look at that ramp up. Another congrats. 01:05:26 Speaker 1: So I think we can hold the level for a little while. After the election, I think you're going to see, especially if the elections go well for Republicans, if the elections go well for Republicans, you're going to see elected officials, statewide elected officials, governors and stuff, start saying they're going to need to cooperate with us. and they're going to start releasing these individuals. The more we talk about detainers and about who these people are that they're turning back on the streets, the more pressure applies to the individuals. 01:05:54 Speaker 3: So I think it'll stay there for a little bit. But if it goes well, another reason to get out and vote, because we've got to keep putting pressures on these maniacs to keep cooperating. It'd be so cool if we could get 100,000. That would be a great, that would be a huge accomplishment. But you're doing great work here, and it's never been done in our nation's history. Okay, let's talk about H-1Bs. 01:06:10 Speaker 9: 100,000 what? 01:06:12 Speaker 3: Arrests? It's just a nice round number. 01:06:16 Speaker 5: It would be such a headline. 01:06:17 Speaker 1: It would be a headline. It would be tough. And I'd hate putting quotas because we are serving warrants on the worst of the worst. What happens when we serve the warrants is we find about three, it was four, now we're finding about three what we call collateral criminals. The one we're serving warrants, they're never by themselves. They always hang out with other illegals. And so by being focused on just serving the warrants of the worst of the worst, We're also picking up other illegals. And by the way, you're still here illegally. 01:06:43 Speaker 3: Okay, good. 01:06:44 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. 01:06:44 Speaker 3: Okay, because the worst of the worst, there's a big debate on the... I know you know all about it. Because we're part of the all of them must go, but I understand you got a political. 01:06:53 Speaker 1: No, actually, when I serve the one on the worst of the worst, I'm actually increasing. That's why you're seeing that increasing of the rest, because now every place we go is targeted. So every time we go out, every time my ERO agents go out, we're making multiple arrests. 01:07:08 Speaker 3: I love it. 01:07:08 Speaker 7: Yeah. 01:07:08 Speaker 3: I love it. 01:07:09 Speaker 7: So. 01:07:10 Speaker 3: All right, let's go into H-1Bs. There was this big story. Microsoft got banned from the PERM program. And then there's the OPTs. So these are legal categories, but they're rife with fraud. They're rife with abuse. Just speak to some of the work you're doing. 01:07:25 Speaker 1: So I want to talk about Microsoft. Vice President J.D. Vance, he is, you're talking about a tiger after a piece of steak. That man is laser focused on fraud. And we're part of it, right? We're part of the task force he's put together. But he was the one that first saw this. Now, can you imagine going after Microsoft? Big company, right? I would say most people don't have the guts to do that. He didn't even back down. He's like, this is obvious. They laid off 6,000 Americans, and at the same time, they brought in more than that. 9,000. Yes, through the H-1B visas. And so his leadership has given us cover to be able to do that because that can get political. He doesn't see it that way. And that's President Trump's leadership, right? That comes from the top down. And so the fraud is where we go to with Joe Edlow when I first started this conversation. He is pulling every one of those levers to close every one of those loopholes. That's why you see those numbers continuously drop. What we're doing is just going straight to the intent of the law. What is the statute? I can't repeat this enough. I am not picking and choosing the laws. I'm enforcing our laws. Across the board evenly. 01:08:48 Speaker 3: Such a novel concept. Right. All right. So I'm going to give you a hard one. I'm sorry if I... You can defer to the DOJ. 01:08:54 Speaker 1: I have three teenage girls at home. There's no such thing as hard. All right. 01:09:00 Speaker 3: So Ilhan Omar. 01:09:03 Speaker 7: Yes. 01:09:04 Speaker 3: If you have to defer to the DOJ, I understand. But what, what can you, can you tell us anything? 01:09:09 Speaker 1: No, DOJ couldn't tell you anything either. Listen, all this, there's nothing political about this. I go back to repeat my, myself, right? Um, We're enforcing our laws across the board. I don't care who it is. We're enforcing our laws. So all I can say is, one, yes, we served a warrant. I can't say that it was on a specific person or not, but she wasn't or it wasn't the only place we served the warrant. There was multiple other warrants served on that same day. We had a judge sign it, and we expected to be able to take the case to a grand jury. But I will tell you, we wouldn't move forward and President Trump didn't want to move forward either unless we knew that it couldn't be politically driven. Now, they want to try making it political driven. This individual wants to try making it about themselves. This was about enforcing, once again, our nation's laws. And it's a strong case. 01:10:02 Speaker 3: Hypothetical. Oh, that's good to hear. Hypothetical moving forward. 01:10:07 Speaker 4: If a. 01:10:09 Speaker 3: Foreign warlord from a failed state that is part of a genocidal government that gets displaced and has a daughter and wants to move to America as a refugee. Is that something that would be able. 01:10:21 Speaker 1: To happen again? So let's just say if someone comes in and claims that fills out their paperwork illegally and they claim that they are this person and this is their background. and then underneath that individual, a lot of other people come in, and I'm just saying hypothetically across a whole bunch of cases that's out there, then that can be considered a RICO case, right? Because there was conspiracy to deceive the American government, and therefore everything else that came in with it could then be looked at as the same case. And so in any case like that, and this isn't, I mean, we've had multiple cases like that. 01:10:58 Speaker 3: There's tons of them. 01:10:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, where people come in and they lie, and then we can go all the way back through Good thing about something like a case like that is when it is a RICO case that the statute of limitations on things, they don't they don't apply in most cases. A few things they do, but in most cases they don't. That's why with HSI, which are Homeland Security Investigation, which is man, those guys are studs, by the way. They're part of the best three letter agency that most Americans don't know about. That's why they worked very closely with DOJ through the whole process to make sure that what we are doing in this case has taken all the news. You're doing it by the board, you're doing it by the book. And we're enforcing, once again, our nation's laws. 01:12:00 Speaker 3: And I'm pretty sure I'm out of time here. Yeah, I'm out of time. I'm getting the yank. 01:12:05 Speaker 5: No, you've been so generous with your time. 01:12:06 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 01:12:08 Speaker 6: I just want to drive home that point, which is this is a state that has had a massive open border for ages. It has transformed the state over time. And you have literally had record-setting results. In terms of undoing the damage that so many bad governments have done to this country. 01:12:28 Speaker 1: I say this all the time, and I mean it. I had the best cabinet position in the entire cabinet. President Trump has given me an opportunity to protect the nation. And it's a D.O.W. They get to go fight foreign wars. We fight the war every day from the Coast Guard all the way in. We take care of this land. And I think, wow. What an opportunity. I mean it when I say I am lucky. I am blessed to be able to be in this position and be surrounded by 270,000 true patriots. And we're in the boat. We got the oars. We're pulling in the same direction. And we have President Trump who is cheering us on, who gives us the resources and the tools we need. And by the way, supports us by just simply saying it's not political. We're making America great by enforcing our nation's laws. That's what national security is all about. And I'm like, hey, man, let's go. 01:13:22 Speaker 3: I just want to commend you. As Blake said, you had probably the best Senate job at a state that I think didn't have one blue county in it, Oklahoma. 01:13:32 Speaker 1: I think we only had like one– Wood City? Not even a city. I think we had like one polling place that went blue. I don't know. 01:13:41 Speaker 3: So you had job security. You had everything, most of what you imagine D.C., political leaders want, and you gave that up for one of the toughest jobs. I know you're enjoying it because you're a man of great energy. You wake up early. You work out. You stay up late. I'm sure thousands of people are reaching out to you, and you have great energy. That's what this job needs. So anyways, God bless you. We have your back. You did it for your country, and you're showing incredible results. I want the base. I want the grassroots to understand just how much is getting done because it's unprecedented. It's historic. Everybody wants $ 10 million out in a month, in a blink. It doesn't work that way, but you guys are making it more and more and more efficient. So God bless you. 01:14:25 Speaker 7: Thank you. 01:14:25 Speaker 1: If you guys have time, you ought to go look at your deportation flights that happen just outside of Phoenix every day. 01:14:31 Speaker 3: You were at the border here too. 01:14:32 Speaker 1: I was, but this morning I was looking at deportation flights that were going out. Fifty percent of the people on that plane had committed suicide. A serious crime. 01:14:40 Speaker 3: Seriously. 01:14:40 Speaker 1: And they were on that plane. And one guy gave me a salute, but it was with the middle finger as he was getting on the plane. I took it as like, yay, okay. Hope I don't see you again, but if you do, you're going to get back on the plane. 01:14:50 Speaker 3: Well, that's awesome. I didn't realize they were coming out of Sky Harbor. 01:14:53 Speaker 1: Well, we have multiple locations across the country, but this is one of our hubs in Louisiana, Alexandria. I think, no, is it Alexandria, Louisiana? That's one of our main hubs. This is one of our main hubs, too. 01:15:08 Speaker 7: Yeah. 01:15:09 Speaker 3: How's the border looking down here, by the way? 01:15:10 Speaker 1: It's looking great. The border where I was at yesterday, just in that sector where I was at, over 500,000 known gotaways came across it during the Biden administration. 01:15:21 Speaker 3: Now it's got a big wall. 01:15:22 Speaker 7: Yes. 01:15:23 Speaker 1: That's not including the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands that we arrested. Now they're encountering almost no one because of the wall there. Um, it's pretty remarkable. There was that whole, uh, gosh, I'm so sorry guys. I, I, I'm good. 01:15:36 Speaker 3: I know, but they, they got rid of that tree just recently that, you know, the big tree, our team went down there. Front lines was in all these like Antifa protesters were parking on the, on the land right next to the easement. 01:15:47 Speaker 7: Yeah. 01:15:47 Speaker 3: And then the tree comes down, and they're like screaming, and I was, you know, it was like music. 01:15:52 Speaker 6: I checked our Phoenix deportation flights, and one of the most recent stories is a Ugandan got federal charges after biting an ICE agent while during the flight. 01:16:00 Speaker 7: Out of Phoenix. 01:16:00 Speaker 1: They actually told me about that one. I got on the plane with them when they were leaving, and so I walked on the plane just to kind of wave goodbye to them. Actually, I've got on there to shake all the guys' hands. 01:16:07 Speaker 5: The bad people are furious. They're really angry. 01:16:10 Speaker 1: But one more spot to tell you where that spot is where we were at. If you remember during the Biden administration when all the videos and stories are going out about them selling the wall sections for pennies on the dollar, that's where it was at. 01:16:23 Speaker 3: That was furious. 01:16:24 Speaker 1: That's where it was at. That was the spot. 01:16:26 Speaker 3: It's crazy to me. It's such a big win because– Trump 1.0, they were freaking out. We can't afford a border wall. We can't afford it. I mean, that was their big thing. 01:16:34 Speaker 1: We can't afford not to have one. 01:16:36 Speaker 3: The border wall is racist. The border wall is too expensive. And now they don't even fight it because we've had so many wins on this front because we're in the right. These ideas make sense. It's common sense. It's an 80-20 issue. 01:16:48 Speaker 1: And we see crime just dropping. 01:16:50 Speaker 7: Yeah. 01:16:52 Speaker 1: Record low murder rate. 01:16:53 Speaker 6: It makes me so angry we can barely even campaign on that. They just say, oh, crime's not an issue this election. We solve issues, and then voters go, oh, it's not an issue anymore. 01:17:01 Speaker 1: We're not going to vote. 01:17:01 Speaker 6: Based on that. 01:17:02 Speaker 3: Anyways, God bless you, sir. I know you've got to go. Thank you for being so generous with your time, and I've been a big believer in your ability to get this done, and I just feel like I've. 01:17:11 Speaker 1: Been great leadership from the president to the vice president and on down, great leadership. 01:17:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Stephen Miller, huge shout-out to him, too. God bless you, sir. 01:17:19 Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. 01:17:21 Speaker 3: I talk about jobs and industries on this show all the time, but I didn't expect to find an entire skills trade community on TikTok. Plumbers, electrician, builders and contractors sharing the work they do every day. And it went way beyond tips and tricks. People were sharing their craft, connecting with local contractors and talking about how they were building their businesses and growing their teams. It opened my eyes. to how people in the trades are using TikTok to share their skills, make connections, and find new opportunities. I remember thinking, this is exactly what we need more of, people sharing what they know and creating opportunities for others. And I never expected to find a community like this that's the thing about TikTok. You start with something you know, and suddenly you're finding a whole new side of it that surprises you and leaves you wanting to know more. Your next discovery is waiting for you on TikTok. Learn more at TikTok.com slash discover more. Do we have Caleb and Michelle? Do we have them? 01:18:17 Speaker 5: Caleb and Michelle, are you guys there? 01:18:20 Speaker 9: We're here. 01:18:21 Speaker 5: Excellent. 01:18:23 Speaker 3: How are you? 01:18:24 Speaker 9: Hey, doing great. Shoot, I wanted to ask Mr. Mark Wayne Mullen there, why does it take a Canadian citizen like me who's lived here 50 years and married two American citizens, why it takes over two years to naturalize my application or, you know. 01:18:45 Speaker 9: For citizenship but are you canadian originally yeah i'm canadian oh We'll take the good ones. My parents came here when I was a baby. I've lived here as a legal resident my whole life. but it's been two years since I applied for citizenship and I'm like, well, what's going on? 01:19:03 Speaker 6: What I would say is I've heard this from a few people and I guess the good sign is I think in the process of gumming out all of the bad stuff, I think they're not super angry about also slowing down the ones that are worthwhile. 01:19:15 Speaker 3: I mean, it's probably just a reflection of the fact that it's harder for anybody to game the system. And that means that, yeah, some of the people that deserve to be naturalized like yourself, you've been here since you're a baby, you're from Canada, you love this country. And it probably doesn't mean that it's not going to work out. It's just going to take a little bit. Oh, yeah. 01:19:35 Speaker 9: I have all confidence that they won't deny my application. It's just, like, frustrating. So our real question is, when is the Trump administration going to start arresting governors and mayors and officials like Walz, Jacob Frey, and Keith Ellison in Minnesota and those others who actively are obstructing ICE or at least, you know, refusing to cooperate? 01:19:57 Speaker 3: My take on that is I definitely think there's people within the admin that have an appetite for that, and then there's some that probably don't. But it's also– I understand– listen, I'm team arrest them all. You get these governors, these mayors that want to obstruct and basically empower these vigilantes on the ground that want to screw everything up. I'm team arrest them. Make an example out of them and let them know they're not special. They have no privilege. They're legal citizens just like everybody else. The law applies to them. However– I understand why they might not want to do that, right? Because after what happened in Minnesota, that was a huge, huge PR victory for the left, okay? They felt like we went too hard, that we were too cowboy about it. I'm not of those opinions, but when I'm looking at the polling, when I'm looking at all this stuff, I understand why they want to keep a little bit more discreet with some of this stuff. And if they can keep it off the front page... Ultimately, this is my belief, you're going to get more deportation. 01:20:55 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's the idea is they saw if they go maximally hard, it makes a lot of us really happy. But it actually makes it harder to get the deportation number as. 01:21:04 Speaker 3: High as possible. It energizes the left. 01:21:06 Speaker 6: And, yeah, it's like ICE started to pull worse when they were doing the really heavy-handed stuff in Minneapolis. And since then, yeah, we're not seeing heavy handed stuff, but we are getting those record arrest numbers, record deportation flights. 01:21:19 Speaker 3: Exactly. So I think that's my take on it. They don't want to they don't want to poke the bear too much. 01:21:23 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:21:24 Speaker 9: Give them ammunition. 01:21:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And, you know, listen, we're going to we're up against it in this midterm. 01:21:30 Speaker 6: Yeah. 01:21:30 Speaker 3: And and I think right now it's going to be status quo for a little bit. 01:21:33 Speaker 7: Yeah. 01:21:33 Speaker 3: Thank you. 01:21:34 Speaker 5: Thank you. 01:21:35 Speaker 1: Michelle. 01:21:35 Speaker 3: Great to hear from John. 01:21:37 Speaker 5: Unmute yourself. What's your question? We're plowing ahead as quick as we can. 01:21:40 Speaker 9: Honored to be the second guest from Oklahoma today. 01:21:43 Speaker 3: Hey, there you go. Mark Gwinn, I like Mark Gwinn. 01:21:48 Speaker 7: Oh, he's awesome. 01:21:49 Speaker 9: I actually live about a mile from him. 01:21:51 Speaker 3: He took so much incoming when he first took that job. 01:21:55 Speaker 5: From the right. 01:21:56 Speaker 3: And the problem was he was not messaging the way that the base wanted him to. His mandate was to quell this blue state rebellion, get them to cooperate. And so it was a little bit of, The base didn't understand what he was doing, but listen, the results speak for themselves. 01:22:13 Speaker 6: I just think of the bit from the Gospel of Matthew where he tells the two sons to work in the vineyard and one says, I'll go do it, but then doesn't work in the vineyard. And the other says, yes, or says, I won't, but does. And like, it's sort of that. It's like he doesn't have the same level of like off the charts energy some personas have. 01:22:33 Speaker 3: And yet. 01:22:34 Speaker 5: The record speaks for itself. 01:22:35 Speaker 3: But he's energetic. The guy has more energy. 01:22:37 Speaker 5: He's the real energy. 01:22:38 Speaker 1: The real energy. 01:22:39 Speaker 3: Literally like get stuff done energy. He wakes up early, starts working. 01:22:42 Speaker 7: Boom. 01:22:42 Speaker 3: And he loves it. All right. Sorry. What's your question? 01:22:45 Speaker 7: Sorry. 01:22:45 Speaker 3: We didn't mean to monologue over it. 01:22:48 Speaker 1: Hey, I appreciate that. 01:22:49 Speaker 3: So I'm just curious, how is the Arizona project going? And what are the internal polls showing for Biggs and Peely? 01:22:57 Speaker 7: All right. 01:22:57 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the public polls are not looking good, but I'm not sure we can trust them. No, no, you can't trust them. So Hobbs' own internal poll put it at 4. She had a 4-point lead, and that came out last week. And her support had collapsed. So her own internal polls had her up as much as 10. That's down to 4. So Andy Biggs is seizing the late momentum. And even her own internal poll had undecideds breaking for Andy Biggs 2-1. 01:23:24 Speaker 6: And if you check Tyler Bowyer, he's actually kind of live-tweeting a lot of this. 01:23:28 Speaker 5: He's been tracking... ballot drops. 01:23:31 Speaker 6: And comparing them to 2022 and emphasizing the pace because Democrats have tended to come out like a cannonball early with the early vote. And then we close the gap. And he's emphasized that. The gap is closing faster than it has in the past. And so this morning, we had a drop, massive drop from Maricopa County, so biggest county, and it's 38% Republican, 39% Democrat. 01:23:53 Speaker 5: Basically a tie. 01:23:54 Speaker 6: And it's Republicans are gaining ground and are on a path to exceed 2022 turnout. 01:23:59 Speaker 3: Now remember, why is that important? Because in 2022, Hobbs won the governor's race by 17,000 votes over Kerry Lake. Now there was shenanigans. We can get into all of that. But even if all things remain the same, and actually some of our election laws have improved in Arizona, and we have a great county recorder in Justin Heath. But if everything was still the same as it was in 2022, and we're on pace to exceed that, that very well means that Andy Biggs is on a great course here. Let's just say that. I don't want to pump you full of any hopium. But in 2022, all things were not equal. We did not have turning point action chasing across the state. Our field team, our ballot chasers are 25% larger. We have a 25% larger army on the ground than we even did in 2024. And in 2022, we didn't have anybody. So that should give you a lot of hope. Commit 100. So commit to chase 100 ballots. We're going to give you 100 names. Go to tpaction.com slash 100. These are all conservatives. You can chase them yourself. And just one final name. We'll put you up in a hotel, all the things. One final word. We also have a field team in Nevada and New Hampshire. All three states are looking great. Chasing works. Getting low props out works. Did I answer your question, sir? Oh, we lost him. 01:25:22 Speaker 7: All right. 01:25:23 Speaker 3: Next question up. 01:25:24 Speaker 6: How about we do David is what Danny's saying. So, David, unmute yourself and what's your question? 01:25:31 Speaker 8: My question is, uh, first of all, thanks for having Mark Wayne Mullen on. That was worth the money. 01:25:37 Speaker 3: He's great. 01:25:38 Speaker 1: The money. 01:25:39 Speaker 8: Uh, my question is, is, uh, uh, my question is, do all Democrats, uh, share the same brain because they all have the same, um, talking points. Uh, they want men and women's sports, their baby killers, and they want open borders. Uh, And to hear them talk, I heard my senator talk, and nothing's going on here in California. We're in California. Nothing to see here. And they're very slick talking. What's your thoughts on that? 01:26:21 Speaker 7: Yeah, well. 01:26:22 Speaker 6: The question about do they all share the same mind, that's actually a very deep question because it's a pattern that gets noticed and you'll see it the most when there's a big cascade in how the left talks about something. So, for example, 2020 during peak woke where suddenly every Democrat like there wasn't a press release. You couldn't see where it was coming from. And yet they're all talking about. We need to have a national conversation about racism. Here's my reading. I just ordered White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo and How to Be Racist by Ibram X. 01:26:51 Speaker 3: Kendi. 01:26:52 Speaker 6: And they all very quickly collect around a certain point of view they didn't have before, whether it's defunding the police or making Juneteenth a holiday. And they're suddenly all talking about how Juneteenth was this holiday they loved celebrating as kids. There is a real way they all update. And as for what drives that, I think it's a few things. 01:27:13 Speaker 3: I think. 01:27:15 Speaker 6: As a rule, Democrats, they are more bottom-up in how they approach things. So if they suddenly see a big swell of what people are saying and believing, they kind of assimilate it because they're less hierarchical. 01:27:28 Speaker 5: They're more bottom-up. Another thing is they're more feminine. They're majority women. 01:27:35 Speaker 6: Women do prize consensus about things. They do prize not rocking the boat too much within their group. And as a result, if they just, and they also, as a result, also fear being ostracized and excluded. All of those things work together to make them mesh together. And that can suddenly make them all adopt the same view all at the same time. 01:27:56 Speaker 5: And it's a very interesting force. 01:27:57 Speaker 6: Because it gives them a huge amount of political power that we have to sort of have leaders get out there and get the message to people that this is a priority. 01:28:06 Speaker 5: This is what we're doing. 01:28:06 Speaker 6: If we're, if we need to change our approach to a policy, it can be kind of, it's like, you know, turning an aircraft carrier. It's very difficult, but the left, they get this agility from the fact that, or actually banning plastic straws was another good one. Just a meme that took off on X. And suddenly every Democrat in America wanted to ban plastic straws. 01:28:25 Speaker 3: This is why on the right, they often accuse the right of having authoritarian figures. But you need a really strong leader to unite the right. You really do. You need a really strong personality, a really, like a Reagan, an Eisenhower, a Trump, because they're so, their force of will is so strong, Charlie, that they could just bring all of these disparate factions like herding cats. But if you're going to herd cats, you need a really strong herder. 01:28:53 Speaker 5: And as a group, we're the sort of people we can, with good authority, we can trust authority. 01:28:58 Speaker 6: We can defer to authority. We don't crave power as much. What we crave is good leadership. So it's the classic problem of the right is they, you know, they want a good government and then they want to go grill or go do church or spend time with their family. And that innately means not being as invested in what every single decision your leaders are making. 01:29:19 Speaker 3: Exactly. So I think there's a lot to go. Yeah, it's a deep question. But, you know, ultimately... Blake brought it up earlier. There's this issue of NGOs and massive funding and blue sky. They have their own little comms networks. They're all little like think tanks and their intellectual intelligentsia that is forging the new talking points. And those get disseminated out really, really quick. And they fall in line. There's not a lot of rocking the boat. But there is a Democrat civil war as well between DSA and Democrats. And that is very real. So never underestimate how much they keep under wraps and you don't see about because they have a compliant media that doesn't want to make hay about it. What's the next question? 01:29:55 Speaker 1: Let's see. 01:29:57 Speaker 5: Is it Mick? Do we have to read that one? 01:29:58 Speaker 1: All right. 01:29:59 Speaker 6: So Mick, this is a reading one. He says, Good morning, fellas. With the shooting yesterday at the Silver Rail Elementary in Bend, there's a few things that stand out. Law enforcement had a perfect response time. They were there in under three minutes. A bystander immediately pursued and killed the shooter, and the shooter used a pump-action shotgun. My question is, what, if anything, the federal government is considering to protect schools? At minimum, we need armed security outside of schools, whether it's funded or volunteer, I don't care. I would appreciate your thoughts as a former 22-year Bend resident. So first of all, condolences if you have any connection to any of those deaths. It's extremely sad and horrible. 01:30:40 Speaker 5: Charlie would talk about this. Charlie was definitely a supporter. 01:30:42 Speaker 6: He believed in just having armed guards at schools, funded, I don't know if you'd want federal funding for that. It would probably be volunteer or local effort. I have mixed feelings about that. I guess my concern has always been, ultimately, you cannot protect everyone from a rogue lunatic who wants to conduct a shooting really without getting rid of the right to bear arms. That is the way you could do it. You could get rid of our constitutional right, disarm the public. That would do it. But besides that, are you going to have an armed guard... at every single playground? Are you going to have an armed guard on every single school bus? Are you going to have an armed guard at every single swimming lesson, soccer practice? In the end, if a really antisocial person wants to go on a suicidal spree, you can really only block it by becoming like the UK, where the UK actually is a panopticon, where nobody is free, everyone is disarmed, the government is extremely anarcho-tyrannical and oppressive. that is a way you can contain this. Maybe it's worth it because schools specifically have become, they're like a trope that if you're a disaffected person, you try to do a school shooting or a church shooting. 01:31:57 Speaker 5: So you figure those are the obvious target. You fortify those. 01:32:01 Speaker 3: And I was going to say, I'm, I'm all for fortifying schools. I'm, you know, I think teachers should be taught to carry. I think there should be, you know, multiple personnel at most of these schools that are ready to jump in that are just there for security. I don't love it, but if you're going to send your kids to a school, do you want to feel safe or do you want to love it? 01:32:23 Speaker 6: What I worry is I worry a majority of Americans if they're given the choice of do you want to have armed guards everywhere you go in life or just get rid of the Second Amendment? I'm kind of worried people would pick get rid of the Second Amendment. 01:32:38 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm going to keep my kids safe. Good luck getting rid of the Second Amendment. We're going to wrap it up there. It's been a wonderful, wonderful Friday. And thank you again to Secretary Mueller. We see your notes, by the way. A lot of you want him to do more. Obviously, we want him to do more. 01:32:52 Speaker 5: We love that. We'd love to say get one hundred thousand a month. 01:32:55 Speaker 3: Yeah. But listen, believe you me, the pressure that we put on these guys behind the scenes to get these deportation numbers up is huge. They're also getting it from the other side that they're being too crazy. They're being too much like cowboys. It's a political liability. I disagree with that. I want more, more, more. But Mark Wayne is on board. He's doing a great job, honestly, and moving the football forward. Trust me. All right. That wraps it up. We'll see you guys on Monday. Until then, have a great weekend. Spend time with your family. Touch grass. Put the phone down. And we really appreciate y'all. 01:33:30 Speaker 5: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.