Mangione's Guilty Plea + "Thank You For Sharing" + AMA 275

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We have breaking news this morning. Luigi Mangioni, the Brian Thompson Healthcare CEO assassin hero of the Left, is pleading guilty in federal court today on federal charges. So let's get that right away. Clip thirteen. 00:02:15 Speaker 3: Luigi Angoni has just pleaded guilty to the stocking course charges against him in federal court. So he says, now he is prepared to plead guilty. His defense attorney, Karen anya Fillo, has just stated, quote, mister Mangoni is prepared to plead guilty to the indictment at this time. The judge then asks MANGIONI he confirmed, saying yes. So the judge said, is that the truth to Mangoni? Mangoni confirms yes. 00:02:48 Speaker 2: Now this might be a little confusing. It's been this case has been unfolding a year and a half at this point. Why did he suddenly about face and plead guilty. Well Fox makes a good point on this, so we'll just let them say it. Clip fourteen. 00:03:01 Speaker 4: Leanji Hewan's defense team has done a very good job up to this point. Think about what they have done for him thus far. They got rid of the terrorism charge, they got the death penalty off the table, they got mandatory life sentence off the. 00:03:13 Speaker 5: Table in this state case. 00:03:15 Speaker 4: So they have demonstrated significant strategic I would say ability and skill. And so I think what they're doing here they must believe it's their best shot for a number of reasons, many of which have already been discussed. 00:03:31 Speaker 2: So I was diving into this this morning. What's their reasoning here, and it looks like basically their strategic plan that is likely is he is pleading guilty to a federal It's not even a federal terrorism charge. They got that thrown out. It's not a federal murder charge. It is a federal stalking charge. Two of them. I believe, where the charge is technically stalking that results in death. Now, that still leaves life imprisonment on the table. But it's likely that they're going to argue because he's pleading guilt in federal court that double jeopardy applies and they need to throw out his New York state murder case. Normally that wouldn't work in most states, but New York has a stronger law on this than most states that they're going to cite and say, got to throw this case out. Now, why are they doing that because he can still get life at the federal level. I don't know. It might be his lawyers have decided the judge in this case is more likely to impose a sentence that is below life without parole. They might believe they're more likely to be able to bount some other appeal, some sort of legal strategy in the future. But as she pointed out, they are clever, they know what they are doing, and they're playing the long game, and this matters to all of us. I think we need to realize how important this actually is to the Left. It is Mangione should have gotten the death penalty. He should have gotten the death penalty because what he did is corrosive to the entire American body politic. He is a person who, for political reasons, chose a specific target who he didn't know. He didn't have any cause of personal grievance against him. He went targeted that person assassinated him, and the Left has made him a hero for this. They idolize him, they want to turn him into an icon. Clip twenty. 00:05:15 Speaker 6: I'm here because Luigi has a surprise hearing in federal court. We're not really sure what's going on, but there have been murmurs of a possible plea deal. 00:05:23 Speaker 2: And how do you feel about that possible plea deal. 00:05:26 Speaker 6: I've also said I support Luigi whether or not he did it, so for me, I always knew this could be on the table, so I wouldn't really be phased by one. 00:05:34 Speaker 2: I support Luigi whether or not he did it. That's the view of a lot of people on the left, and the only way that you can check this. The first step towards checking this is you have to be maximally punitive when this sort of behavior happens. The state, the government, our society must send a message that this is totally and completely unacceptable. And to be clear, this is going to be a long term struggle. The left has no compunctions about taking a political assassin, a murderer and making them a long term cause, celeb something that they fight for for years, decades on end. There are plenty of examples from the sixties and seventies and eighties heinous murderers that they fought for to get out of prison. John Hinckley tried to murder the President of the United States, and eventually lawyers got him out of prison. He is a freeman sending messages to Jodi Foster again. They want to make Mangioni someone like that as well, and so we got to fight for this and we should change our laws. This is something we've talked about in the Tyler Robinson case that the state is having to make somewhat challenging arguments for why he deserves the death penalty, about endangering others, or about the fact that there were children present at the scene, when it should just be core fact if you are committing a politically motivated assassination, if you're doing a public assassination, that should just buy default carry the death penalty. But and we'll get into this in the next segment. The Mangioni case matters because it speaks to a bigger picture. It speaks to the message that Charlie was touting in the days and weeks and months leading up to his own death. I'm gonna play this clip. You've seen it many times by now, but it so importantly speaks to what Charlie's big message was that America faces a choice Maga versus Mangioniism. Let's play it again, clip twenty one. 00:07:24 Speaker 1: Look, you have two options. You can go Maga or Maggionism. You can go Maga, or you can go mam Donnism. You can go Maga or you can know Muhammedism. It's very funny how all the ms Maga is the only option on the right. Neo conservators are not coming back the corporate oligarchs. We're not gonna let happen. So Maga has cemented the worldview of the American right, but the left, we don't know. It could go Maggioni, which is the most extreme. You could go mam Donni, which is very very extreme, or you go Mohammedi Muhammedism, which is just you know, Muslim Islamic takeover. You get reform or you get revolution. We at Maga reform stuff political undercurrent underneath Maggioni that cannot be ignored, that should not be dismissed, and that political reality is that is on the American left. 00:08:13 Speaker 2: Reform or revolution. It might look funny that there is this early twenties white chick outside the courthouse saying I love Mangioni even if he did it, especially if he did it. But that is not something you should laugh at. That is not something that should make you chuckle. That is something that should make the blood in your body feel a chill. It is terrifying that young people would love someone who heinously murdered a father that he didn't even know. And we have to think about what allows people to even have that thought enter their brain and what can we do about it. What is Mangionism. It's this violent, radical rejection of You might say the American Experiment that says, the problem with this country is capitalism, The problem is rich people and billionaires. And what's the solution, targeted assassinations, burn it all down, blow it all up. No solution is too radical, and that appeals to the radicals of young America. Earlier this week, we were talking about a one of Charlie's last events that he did. He spoke at the Win the Storm I believe was the name of it, twenty twenty five. It was an event in Dallas. Despite the name it was actually about. It was kind of a roofers convention, and it was an interesting event because Charlie was taking question after question from these business owners and entrepreneurs who were basically saying, Charlie, we love you on Christianity, we love you on faith, we love you on the college scam, we love you on basically every issue, but could we please, could we please just get amnesty? And it was actually quite frustrating, and I just want to remind you what it was like. Let's do clip nine. 00:09:53 Speaker 1: So why don't you educate me of what mass deportations would do to your industry. There'd be no one to work on the to build back we already, We've already seen it it Florida. So then allow me to provocatively then help have me tell you how I hear it. Are you telling me everyone in this room is hiring illegal labor? 00:10:13 Speaker 2: Not everyone, but uh I know I had in the past. 00:10:18 Speaker 1: Okay, So everyone is saying yes, so and again you guys can boom me off stage and I want to respectfully have it. And if I'm wrong, come to the mic. So is everyone here in this room committing a felony? 00:10:31 Speaker 7: Yes? 00:10:32 Speaker 1: Okay, good to know. 00:10:34 Speaker 2: And there's another clip it's even more jaring, a very brief one clip eight I'm white. 00:10:39 Speaker 8: I don't want white people doing the roofs because we're you know, I got people complaining it's hot outside. 00:10:45 Speaker 2: Charlie was very aghast about it. The other day we talked about. This shows the difficulty that's facing us of are we ready to pay any short term cost at all to save this country? And we need to be able to say yes to that or we will lose this country. But this actually links to the man question as well. And there's additional clips I want to get to from this event because think about what it means when these business owners say only illegal immigrants are able to do this entire sector of the economy. What they're saying is that economy that has basically become closed off to ordinary Americans. And they can say, oh, they don't want to do those jobs, but there's two sides of that. What's one reason they don't want to do them because that job has become associated with the lowest wage workers, it's become associated with illegal immigrant They don't know anyone who works in those fields because those fields have been totally taken over by an immigrant subculture. And that happens in more elite fields too. Why don't Americans get as many STEM degrees as they used to. One factor might be that half or more of their department is people from China, people from India, people from foreign countries who have set up their own networks of people who share their language, share their background. And the long term effect of this is all the paths to having a good middle class American life it's becoming narrower, more circumscribed. There's more fighting over it. Stuff like DEI is playing a bigger role if you're going to college, and it's making people feel whether they're on the right or on the left that there's fewer opportunities for them, and that there's not as much of a direct reward between hard work and success. And to be clear, there still is a connection between hard work and success, but we can make it more obvious and we can make it better. So there's a great remark that Charlie made at the same event, and I want to play it. Let's do clip eleven. 00:12:30 Speaker 1: You know, back in the sixties and seventies, we were a nation where it was an expectation when you hit the age of fourteen, fifteen or sixteen, you would go get some sort of a summer job. You'd work at a diner, you'd be working in a kitchen and cleaning dishes. And as a parent of two young kids, I think to myself, I hope I'm a good enough parent by the time that they get to be a teenager that I'm gonna say no, go work on some job that is maybe below our income level. And that's a big problem, right because once we reached the upper middle class, we have this idea that our kids should not have to do the jobs that we once did. But the idea of a summer job, I think it made kids understand the value of hard work, of discipline, of sacrifice, waking up early, and it's especially humbling if you come from an upper middle class family to have to go Caddy for a summer. 00:13:17 Speaker 2: He's a very wise man. Let's get another one. We just love to hear him talk. Let's do this is a short one clip three. 00:13:23 Speaker 1: How do we treat an eighteen year old right now at a local high school? It says, I don't want to go to high school. I don't want to go to college. I just want to start a business or something. Well, the traditional path is, well, you know, go get your four year degree. 00:13:36 Speaker 2: Just think. 00:13:36 Speaker 1: Instead, we shall be celebrating an eighteen year old to want to go take that risk and want to go create value, to want to go out into the marketplace and do something unique and interesting and creative. 00:13:48 Speaker 2: This is the challenge before us, and this links back to the Mangionism phenomenon that in America we must make it as clear as possible that there is a direct link between how hard you work and how willing you are to work and the success that you can experience later in life. And there's various ways we can do that. We can make it so more jobs don't require a degree at all, that you could maybe take a test to get it. We should encourage employers to do this. We should encourage employers to just say, if you can show this set of skills, we will hire you. We should encourage more employers to be willing to train new employees. There's various ways we can incentivize this. This is a big thing that drives the H one B phenomenon that you can bring in a foreign worker who's tied to your company. They're not able to leave, and they're probably already got all the entry level training abroad, so they just don't want to train new entry level workers. We can make it so there's more advantages, more opportunities to start a business fresh out of school, and it's not stigmatized and not penalized. The long term effect of doing things like this is Americans from all backgrounds, all so economic levels will have that feeling if I work, it will be rewarded. And it is that phenomenon, the sense of it doesn't matter what I do. It doesn't matter if I do certain things that I think creates a lot of radicalism. Even some people support You have people who are victims of DEI won't blame DEI for their problems. They'll decide I need to shoot a CEO instead. But if we get rid of that DEI, I still think they're less likely to go down that insane route. So that's the challenge Charlie is laid out before us. Can we embrace reform before we suffer a revolution? 00:15:30 Speaker 9: If you think wireless companies are all the same, you might need to take a look at our friends over at Patriot Mobile. Patriot Mobile isn't just different because of its mission, it's actually built to outperform the other carriers. They offer premium priority nationwide service on any of the three major US networks, helping you get the best possible coverage wherever life takes you. With Patriot Mobile, you can even have two separate networks on a single device, eliminating the need to carry multiple phones and giving you peace of mind you just can't get with other case need internet on the go, Patriot Mobile Wi Fi hotspots connect to multiple networks to keep you connected while traveling or working remotely. 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Let's play at clip fifteen. 00:17:05 Speaker 10: It is widely agreed that there is a mental health crisis of sorts. There is also, it seems widespread agreement on what the solutions to this crisis are. That mental health initiative should receive more funding, that the mentally ill should receive more better diagnoses and treatment, that the public should be made more aware of mental illness as a concept, and also that there should be a general and all consuming push for everyone to participate in mental health culture and share their stories about mental illness. What if you seem to be asking, is in one way or any of these solutions in short supply. 00:17:43 Speaker 2: So we're joined now by the director of that movie, Sonya Zowitkowski. I hope I got that right. She is a Canadian film director. Sonya, thank you for joining us, And why don't you just lay out for our viewers what's the thrust of this documentary that they can actually watch for free right now if they want. 00:18:01 Speaker 11: The main question that I was trying to answer was why is it that despite all this attention and all these resources going to a problem like mental health, why is it that the problem just keeps getting worse? And so, in order to question the assumptions that people have about mental health today, I thought it would be effective to go back through history and look at a time before this narrative existed and how it came into being and all the interesting and surprising things that pushed it along, like asylums at the beginning, of course, but World War two was a huge catalyst as well, and One of the surprising things that you'll find is that this narrative has been persisting for a really long time. Actually, people have been trying to tackle destigmatization for since really like the eighteen hundreds, maybe even before. So I thought that that was really interesting and I thought that should be brought to people's attention. 00:19:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think all of us have lived through this experience of often anytime something happens, that's happens after mass shootings, it happens after atrocities like this unfortunate Lindsay Clancy case or this mother murderer fam her children, that's getting a lot of attention, and we just will hear that. We'll say, we have a mental health crisis in this country, and it's not talked about enough. We need to have more conversations about it. And yet it seems we're having this discussion all the time, and we've been having it for ages, and the numbers only go up. I love this bit from the documentary that's actually near the end of it. Let's play clip nineteen. 00:19:45 Speaker 12: The tent man is the one man in ten in your community who will need emotional guidance. 00:19:50 Speaker 10: Are you unhappy? Depressed? One out of five American adults is mentally ill. 00:19:55 Speaker 12: One na four of us, at some point in our lives will have a mental health condition. 00:20:00 Speaker 5: This is a paradigm shift. 00:20:02 Speaker 13: Welcome to the Pennimal on climate change and mental health. 00:20:06 Speaker 11: He was diagnosed with a canine compulsive disorder. 00:20:09 Speaker 2: One in three Americans, one in three Canadians are experiencing increased levels of exhaustion, frustration, and anxiety as part of their daily lives. So we go from one in ten back in it looked like a fifties documentary, and then it's one in five, one four, one and three, and I think it was actually cut off at the end there. It's that fifty percent of people supposedly have a mental health situation condition of some sort. Now do you believe that this was always the case and we uncovered it or are we creating our own mental health crisis as it were. 00:20:44 Speaker 11: That's what I was kind of trying to look into and get different perspectives on from historians of psychiatry and also just people with I guess you could call lived experience. I think it's clear that people have always suffered. I mean, every major religion, every ancient philosophe addresses and discusses suffering, and it's interesting how suffering, which can be very meaningful and is an inevitability, really has turned into this mental health issue. So the way we think about our problems of course changes the way we approach them. 00:21:27 Speaker 5: So framing it as a mental health. 00:21:29 Speaker 11: Issue allows experts and professionals to take the issue on, and it persuades people to put issues of their lives and their psychees and their emotions and whatever else. It persuades them to kind of outsource those to these professionals. 00:21:50 Speaker 2: Exactly. There's a very interesting part, and I should also mention, by the way, so right now you guys can go to at Passage press on X for this. The next I think for it's one week. This is freely available on X. It's an hour and twenty minutes. You can watch that in less time than it takes to watch the show. So I encourage all of you to check it out. But it was it was near the end, and it was speaking to a man who you identify as formerly mentally unwell. I don't know his full history, but he actually talks about this fact where he actually started to explore, for example, his faith more and that gives it just gives a different dimension to things like if you're struggling to get up in the morning to go to work, a mental health version might be you have you know, this psychologically induced fatigue, you have anxiety, you have depression, And whereas a traditional Christian point of view might be, well, uh, you know, sloth is a sin and all of us are tempted by sin. Do you think there's something where maybe, even if, even if it would be justified to have a mental health framing of this. It's in a way just better if you avoid that, because it's more productive to have different lens for viewing problems. 00:22:59 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:23:00 Speaker 11: I think a big problem with the mental health system is that it just is so totalizing, and it turns all these different things that are happening in people's lives into one thing, which is, you know, a mental illness, and that actually makes it very difficult for people to find out how they can live their lives in a meaningful way, especially because the mental health discourse I found it to be really you know, cliche and alienating and just kind of hokey, and I can never understand how this appealed to anyone at all. And that's part of my motivation for making this documentary. But yeah, I interview lots of people who have a different take on the mental health issue, and then of course I asked them, well, how did you kind of get better or recover or whatever word you want to use. And there's lots of different things. There's literature, there's religion, there's art, there's like companionship, real companionship, not going to a therapist who you're paying, And yeah, that's just aberrant to the system, because the system needs things to be regulated and predictable, and human beings aren't that, and suffering isn't that, And so I think there needs to be more space and understanding for that in people's lives. And of course religion was a huge source of that for a long time, and now that's disappeared, and so I think people just need to get back in touch with that maybe in a way. 00:24:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was so interesting. One of one of the interviews basically says like, how about if you want to help with your mentalth, try reading Shakespeare more, try reading I think I can't remember if he says the Bible as well, but it's pointing out a lot of our earliest psychologists and psychiatrists really are just the author of Ecclesiastes, the author of Proverbs, the author of Romeo and Juliet. That we are able to get this. I want to say, by the way, if anyone has thoughts on this, please send in emails. Maybe we can read a question or two for missus Zawakowski here. But can you elaborate more on that hokiness? Like someone points out that basically any almost any book written before the rise of this any airport literature written before maybe nineteen ninety or so, before we had the biggest explosion of this mental health industry, it just sounds wiser, it sounds deeper. What is that? What's making modern discourse so hokey and lame in comparison to what came before? 00:25:23 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean that was another surprising thing looking back through the histories, just how you know, we assume that we're smarter and more technologically advanced, and you go back and ordinary people seem to possess just a lot more like linguistic capabilities and intelligence and wisdom, like you said, and that's all gone away. And I think a lot of that is just the mass production of ideology and in order to mass produce something, you need to appeal to the lowest common denominator, You need to make it simple, you need to strip away complexity, so it just becomes very banal and just as straightforward as possible. So that's basically the reason I think it's like, that's why the film begins in the eighteenth century, when markets start becoming busier and more and more things start entering the market, one of those things being mental health services. 00:26:19 Speaker 5: And eventually we're today. 00:26:21 Speaker 11: You know, now ideologies are marketed, so they do have to be as simplistic as possible, and that's why today political discourse is so just aggravating. 00:26:32 Speaker 2: Oh man, do you think this is an America Canada specific problem or do you think it really is globalized? 00:26:37 Speaker 5: At this point, it's getting globalized. 00:26:39 Speaker 11: It started in the West and it's being exported, and there's lots of evidence for that. Yeah, and there was evidence that actually developing nations were handling mental health issues better than we were, but that's all going away too. 00:26:51 Speaker 2: So Yeah, there's a very funny clip here from your documentary, just kind of highlighting the way we generate new disorders all of the time. Clip sixty. 00:27:01 Speaker 14: This morning, the World Health organization raising a red flag for the first time, adding gaming disorder to their list of addictive activities. 00:27:10 Speaker 8: Can grief be diagnosed well, one of America's most. 00:27:14 Speaker 3: Prestigious psychiatric body says yes, and it has a name. 00:27:18 Speaker 8: They're calling it prolonged grief. 00:27:21 Speaker 13: Apparently there's like a diagnosis they give you. 00:27:24 Speaker 5: Oh, it's called. 00:27:24 Speaker 8: Highly sensitive person. 00:27:26 Speaker 13: I've always been called hypersensitive, and I was like, you're. 00:27:28 Speaker 5: Just trying to keep me down. 00:27:29 Speaker 13: But it was someone we had on my podcast who was like, oh, it's called an HSP. 00:27:32 Speaker 8: I was like, now I have a diagnosis. 00:27:34 Speaker 2: So that's just a few examples, and I think there's others that are generated over time. Did you find any other particularly bizarre examples of them creating a new mental health diagnosis? And is it basically the case that we should just should we shut this down? Should we say it is destructive to keep inventing new disorders that maybe we hadn't articulated before nineteen fifty Yeah. 00:27:57 Speaker 11: I mean there's all sorts of things, right, there's gender stuff. There's like there was a Turette's craze that didn't last very long, and interestingly that one people were more open about being skeptical of I guess because there's less ideology surrounding that one. But things pop up all the time and they always have. You go back their history again, and people used to get odd disorders, like men would walk into the into fields for days, and that was a mimetic disorder, and you know, hysteria. 00:28:26 Speaker 5: There's so many examples. 00:28:27 Speaker 11: But before mass media, these things would be shut down pretty quickly. They would fizzle out on their own pretty quickly. 00:28:34 Speaker 2: But celeborat on that point because I think people will find it interesting. Can you describe the hysteria craze of the late eighteen hundreds early nineteen hundreds and who did it affect, what did it do, and what happened to it? 00:28:46 Speaker 11: Well, it affected primarily women, which is interesting because a lot of times today you sometimes see a lot of these mimetic diagnoses traveling through women. And they were just pre denting with those sorts of strange disorders or strange symptoms and they would writhe around and you know, in school, I learned that this was like a patriarchal designation that women weren't being taken seriously. And maybe that's part of the story. But another interesting and important part of the story is that this disorder had a lot of glamor to it. People were really interested in women who had hysteria. It got them a lot of attention if they had hysteria. Clinicians would really kind of, it seems now in hindsight, encourage these symptoms and women, even on stages, they would make like an entire performance about it. So you can see the beginnings of a lot of the problems we have now happening then. And it's funny because it just kind of like was over one day. Everyone got tired and board of it. They're like, this isn't interesting anymore. 00:29:52 Speaker 5: They moved on. 00:29:52 Speaker 2: Well, it's also incredible. I love the bit. It highlights that part of one of the manifestations of hysteria was it was like hysterical paralysis. They would be unable to move. And then a doctor came up with a test where basically I think it was like you'd hit the heel of someone's foot, and it's basically like that test whether you have real paralysis or not, because it goes right to your brain stem. And once you had a real test for whether paralysis was all in your head or not, suddenly this basically went away. So do you basically think it's the case that the people who were getting hysteria in the late eighteen hundreds are probably maybe the same women who were getting anorexia in the nineties, and then if they were around today, they might be saying I'm transgender. 00:30:32 Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much. 00:30:33 Speaker 11: And you know, I'm not even Some people watch the movie and they think I'm trying to say like mental illness is fake, and I actually don't or that the mental health crisis, I don't know, isn't real or doesn't matter, And I'm actually not trying to say that at all. I think suffering is very real. At the beginning, I have an interviewee saying the mental health crisis is kind of real. 00:30:50 Speaker 5: Things are getting really weird. 00:30:51 Speaker 11: People are really unstable and they don't know how to live in modern society. But just calling it a mental health crisis is what is the problem. Offsourcing all of this to experts and professionals is part of the problem because it really reifies these ideas and it just imports onto them this like gravitas that makes it really hard for people to extricate themselves from it. And again it then precludes other ways of living that can help you manage your life and your suffering and precludes other ways of thinking about your suffering. It can be beneficial for people to use religion instead or all these other things. So I think that that's the big problem exactly. 00:31:33 Speaker 2: I think that's the key point. As you say, the suffering in many cases is real. These people are not faking it. They do not lack these feelings internally and just do them for attention. But it's more like what mental illnesses we see in society are very socially mediated. It's almost like there's an error problem that a person is in distress or upset or anxious somehow, and it's like their brain is generating this is what a person and like you does, am I understanding that correctly? 00:32:03 Speaker 14: Yeah? 00:32:04 Speaker 5: Exactly. 00:32:04 Speaker 11: The professor of psychiatry, Edward Shorter calls these symptom pools. There are symptoms out there that you can kind of grab onto that will legitimate your suffering. People will see your suffering as legitimate if you express your suffering in these symptoms. So you know, are people faking it? Like you know, you see people online and they're having a breakdown over like being misgendered or something and it's like, I mean, I don't think their problem is transgenderism, but they do clearly have a problem. They clearly have some mensal stuff going on, and they need I don't know, they need a different way of just looking at their problems. 00:32:40 Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, I want one more clip, just because I think it's actually very entertaining. So and it illustrates this exact point Clip seventeen. 00:32:48 Speaker 13: In the Middle Ages, one of the most common psychological difficulties with something known as the glass illusion. I think it was like Charles the sixth France, who was the first sufferer, and he believed at times that he was made of glass, and so he had to be wrapped in very soft blankets and sit on very soft cushions and handled very very carefully. People would gather this idea that they were made of glass, and in that presentation they could have their. 00:33:20 Speaker 14: Suffering taken seriously. Today, if you said to your friend, I'm actually made of glass, you would be laughed at. But if you said to your friend, I'm cutting or I have bulimia, or any other kind of current diagnosis that has cultural currency, you would gain a lot of sympathy. 00:33:44 Speaker 2: It's a very interesting documentary and only eighty minutes long, so you can check it out. So do you want to explain where's the best place for people to check out that documentary or any other work you've done. 00:33:53 Speaker 11: Right now, it's available for free on Twitter, and I believe it's going to be available after that on Amazon and a few other places. I'm sure Passage will tweet about. 00:34:03 Speaker 2: It, oh very much so, and I'm sure we'll profile it and we look forward to what work you do in the future. So thank you very much for coming on Sonya. Thank you for the work you did with this documentary. We did get an email from Steve who says, Sonya ze fabulous, repeat, repeat and repeat. 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Learn deeply, think clearly, lead boldly, and carry it forward. 00:36:09 Speaker 8: Just like Charlie. 00:36:12 Speaker 2: We're here with Tyler Bowyer, head of Turning Point Action and the man who's the reason we're in Arizona and Arizona Cardinals fan. But the logo's all dark so that he can cover it up and make it hard to see. 00:36:23 Speaker 8: Hey, the Cardinals won yesterday in their preseason game, so. 00:36:26 Speaker 2: No one cares about the preseason You know that's true. 00:36:28 Speaker 8: Yeah, but we'll take any as a Cardinals fan will take anyway. 00:36:31 Speaker 2: What's your favorite Super Bowl win by the Cardinals? 00:36:35 Speaker 8: You mean back like in like nineteen hundred or whatever the last one was. 00:36:38 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if they've ever won a championship. 00:36:40 Speaker 8: Not in Super Bowl, not in Super Bowl, not the Super Bowl era, but they're won a championship. 00:36:45 Speaker 2: They're pretty dire. Honestly, the best Cardinals win ever is probably that time that you guys face masked Aaron Rodgers and then it got returned for a touchdown. That Kurt Warner game that was like fifty one to forty five. 00:36:54 Speaker 8: We've had some incredible playoff games, incredible playoff wins, just not in the Super Bowl. 00:36:59 Speaker 2: Okay, and we probably should. 00:37:00 Speaker 8: Have won that one against the Steelers, but had they not coughed of the football at halftime, then we probably would. 00:37:07 Speaker 2: That was that was pretty bad. I'm sure they'll win a Super Bowl eventually. There's probably not when either of us is a lie. We have it. 00:37:12 Speaker 8: We have a real Phoenix area sports issue. We have like the we I don't the only the only team that's won is is the Diamondbacks and it was like seven. 00:37:24 Speaker 2: That was pretty good. 00:37:25 Speaker 8: That was one of the greatest World series, one of the greatest World series. 00:37:27 Speaker 2: So you guys have that. I don't know if you're ever going to get a card. 00:37:30 Speaker 8: Beating the Yankees right after September eleventh, but. 00:37:34 Speaker 2: You know, you beat Mariano Rivera in the bottom of it was very it was very dramatic. 00:37:38 Speaker 8: It was dramatic. 00:37:39 Speaker 2: But anyway, I'm going to keep bullying you about Phoenix sports because it's fun. Ah, but we're in our a m a hour. We've got people qu'ed up to ask some questions and let's dive right into them. I think we have Ian first Ian unmute yourself and what's your question? 00:37:54 Speaker 15: Hey, guys? 00:37:55 Speaker 16: How you know. 00:37:57 Speaker 8: Hey? 00:37:58 Speaker 16: Also, just real quick, the red Skins have been to the NFC Championship way more recently than the Packers have. So just remember that, Blake, what. 00:38:11 Speaker 2: The Packers have won super Bowls? They won a super Bowl in my lifetime, so that I was able to watch, so I'm able to handle the fact that for the past sixteen years they've been a Minnesota Vikings level. 00:38:22 Speaker 8: We're always pulling for the Redskins over the Cowboys. 00:38:25 Speaker 2: So it's yeah, and we're calling them the Redskins. 00:38:28 Speaker 16: Yeah, I want them to be the Redskins still, man, It's it's hard being in a Redskins fan. I know when they change your team. 00:38:34 Speaker 2: Name exactly exactly, but yeah, I. 00:38:37 Speaker 16: Just well, I just wanted to say I'm so excited about TPUSA Communities. I've been working in that for the last couple of months and I know they just launched it this week and I'm gonna be hosting a prayer vigil on September tenth. So yeah, and it's just I just want to know what you guys think. Like, you guys have been around a lot of these bigger events, and it's this has kind of grown a lot more than I thought it would. I'm just planning on like fifty to one hundred people. Now there's like, you know, almost four hundred people just you know, rsvping to it. So it's might be a lot more than that because you know a lot of people just they just show up. But yeah, what are the keys like a good event? And also how can we be praying for you guys at the Charlie Kirk Show and at turning point? 00:39:19 Speaker 2: Oh, Tyler, you've done some events, but you organized the first Trump rally ever. I think, what's the secret to a good event? 00:39:28 Speaker 8: Well, first off, we're so excited about the launch of TPOSA Communities because that's the culmination of Bringing Together Rise, which formerly was Blexit and so many other communities that they've launched TPOSA Families, which is focused on families and family involvement outside of. 00:39:46 Speaker 2: Well, it's really the culmination of just that. Charlie started as a guy speaking to young people, students, but his message was so powerful, it spread so much, so we have infinite emails of Hey, I want to get involved, but I'm a forty five year old dad or faith zone. 00:40:01 Speaker 8: So this is this is kind of the culmination of if you're outside of again the students and faith zone, then you have a place between Rise families, young professionals and what they've launched as TPOSA Heroes, which is focused on military veterans and first responders. And so it's really exciting and congratulations and for getting involved so intricately here and launching some of the first events, because this is where I think this starts to really spread. You have and it's hard and it's it's a little bit challenging at the beginning because hosting events is not easy. It's not an easy thing to do, but it starts with really this grassroots operation of knowing ten people you can count on and building around that. 00:40:50 Speaker 2: Right, So what about for an event itself, any good guidelines just day of make sure it goes. 00:40:56 Speaker 8: Well and turning point action. We're doing a ton of these types of events through our coalitions events as well. Again, it's all preparation, it's talking to people know it. Building your list, managing your list. Every activist that exists within the conservative movement should be developing a list of about a thousand people that they're remaining in general constant contact with. So really hardcore activists that are doing the job are trying to build a list, and you're not gonna have a thousand people that are your followers to begin with. But Jack Pasobic talks about this all the time online as well. If you have a thousand people you can kind of count on. All of a sudden, it starts to spread, right you start, everything starts, all the activist starts to metastasize a lot, and so it is really important that in your community, no matter what the vertical is, that you're getting involved in the communities is that you're starting to identify those people and roll indexts those people basically through tools that community should be you, but then also just kind of on your own because you've got to stay in contact with them by email, by text message, try to have as much face to face interaction. And this is where it really blends together with what we're doing at Turning Point Action because when elections roll around, if you become the community leader that then is a person that can remind people that an elections coming up, be that go to for any information that's coming up with elections. That parlays really nicely into the C four element of it. So the C three's communities, C four on action is our coalitions. But yeah, that's yeah. 00:42:35 Speaker 2: I'm thinking even just of the basics of the event itself. I'm thinking, for example, good advice, just going forward Charlie. Charlie was very good at promotion angle. I'm thinking even of little bits of wisdom. Knew it, it wasn't it like go wide not deep. 00:42:50 Speaker 8: For example, food is important at every event, right, doing a little bit of something, even if it's even if it's small. People like food. They congress gate around food and things like that, having speakers that are interesting and promoting those people. Right, So every event that we do we try to have some kind of some kind of hook, right of this is the person, even if it's small and in the community, but also building events around people who are big names that are coming into town. So if you know, like again a Riley Gaines is going to be in town. She yeah, she works with us at turning point like rope her into a community event, right like that, like everyone should be and it's not always going to work out, right, You're not always going to be able to get everybody. But this is what I say is like, this is kind of the the parlane that we did with Charlie A lot was you know, okay, JD's going to be in town, or you know, again, one of the Trump family's going to be in town. Offer, you know, make the offer that we can build something, even if it's a local community event. And and and by the way, some people start to feel like, oh man, I don't know, this is only going to be like a few dozen people or you know, less than one hundred people or whatever that's going to show up to it. And people are like, ah, I'm too embarrassed. I don't want to invite that person. 00:44:00 Speaker 2: No. 00:44:01 Speaker 8: Like in fact, some of the most critical times I think in Charlie's career was when we had him go to smaller events and be able to speak directly to small community style groups like this. 00:44:12 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:44:12 Speaker 8: So so that that's what would be my advice. Don't don't be ashamed or bashful or anything like that or embarrassed that something smaller, like from small things. 00:44:23 Speaker 2: It sounds like his first event is really cool. I mean hundreds of people. I would say, if you're ready to brag about that and tout it, that's the other videos that's start online. Make it look as awesome as. 00:44:32 Speaker 8: You photos, videos, post it on x all over so all the media sees it exactly. 00:44:37 Speaker 2: So that's definitely a big piece of advice. Thank you Ian for getting involved in that. We're very excited about communities and we'll look forward to what you and so many others will be able to accomplish. I want to do this email question very quick because it might be one that other people have had. Ellie writes, Hey, Blake, my mom and I just bought tickets for our very first Amfest and are so excited. God bless you guys. I have a quick question and I thought i'd ask it here. We both have VIP tickets, but I'm the only one with a membership to the Charlie Kirk Show. Since she is family and attending with me as an adult, would she be able to join in the members only area at Amfest. That's where we have members only room. We have interviews. We've had them with Don Junior, We've had it with a lot of people, like a lot of interest characters, the Korean pastor's sons. We're at the last Amfest. That was a great interview, and we have this in a member's only room. She asks, would my mom be able to join even if she doesn't have a membership. I checked with Daisy and she says, yes, you are able to bring in your family members as long as one of you does have membership and can show proof of it. We would be glad to have you. Though, if she becomes a member, she can call in and ask a question here, So maybe maybe worth considering. But that's great, all right, Now our next full question. I believe we have Elizabeth next. Elizabeth, unmute yourself and what's your question? 00:45:54 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Hi Blake, Hi Tyler? 00:45:55 Speaker 8: How are you today? 00:45:56 Speaker 2: We're doing great? 00:45:57 Speaker 8: How you doing? Elizabeth? 00:45:59 Speaker 7: So good? Actually wanted to sort of tap Blake Sprang did Rhsoka with history. If you were to choose a communist dictatorship and takeover that was the most brutal and godless and horrible the twentieth century. I know there's a lot to choose from, but which one would you choose? And why? 00:46:19 Speaker 2: Oh man? Which of those would you chose. I mean the obviously the answer is you don't want to choose any of them. It is god most brutal, most brutal. It's often a common one. Some people will like to say, I think Mao's China was the worst. It has a very large body count. They have the cultural revolution, and it's a big national psychosis. They starved a lot of people. But I'm a bit old fashioned. I think I think the the original Bolshevik Revolution, the Communists who took over Russia, really stands out for how particularly destructive and evil it was. That maybe it's just the fact that I've read the most about this one. And there's a great book of People Tragedy by Orlando Faigis. Have you heard anything Doners tried to put up? They go by Orlando Phigis, and it just it describes the contours of the Bolshevik Revolution and how horrifying it was. And it's not just that they took over this country and there is famine and people died. It's that they're blowing up historic churches, they are torturing priests and religious people to death. They're one of the most craziest ones. A Jack psopic when he talks about it loves this example, there's a breed of dog that I can't remember, but it was a breed of dog that was associated with the aristocracy, and they would just massacre these dogs as a symbolic point. And they do that at the outset, from the very beginning. Some people will spin it like, oh, Stalin is where it went bad. No, it was bad from the beginning. 00:47:46 Speaker 16: Yep. 00:47:46 Speaker 2: Then you have Stalin. He has the great terror. People could be denounced for the slightest comments. They'd be arrested in the middle of the night and shot, and their identity, what happened to them would not be known for years. You have hundreds of thousands, millions of people shipped off to labor camps. It is. It sets the gold standard for a tyrannical authoritarian regime, and it's bad. Legacy lives on to this day for a very good reason. 00:48:09 Speaker 8: And I actually got my degree in this in the Bolshevik Revolution, believing it or not, I speak Russian and I would say one point that you're bringing up is that Lenin led to Stalin. And now so every all of the top intellectual leaders in the in the Chinese Communist Party all point to Lenin as the inspiration for what that allowed for the Chinese Revolution, the Chinese reawakening, as they as they put it. And in Russia, you know, you wouldn't have Stalin, never would have existed had it not been for the Bolshevik Revolution. Points too, so a lot of people, especially in today's modern American Communist Party that exists and then they call it the DSA, which is now the Democrat part. Uh, they point to the bullsh of revolution as as fairly peaceful, and the reality of that is not true. 00:49:07 Speaker 2: It's not truly at all complete life. 00:49:09 Speaker 8: It's a complete lie. And and it's a good point that bad ideas lead to death at some point, right, And hundreds of millions and even Russian. 00:49:19 Speaker 2: Russia today has not recovered from what the bullsh Now. 00:49:22 Speaker 8: Hundreds of millions of people have died by extension, either directly at the hands of communists during the communist phases of these countries or you know, as a result of this. 00:49:33 Speaker 2: It's not even just the death, it's the way it just totally derailed a full civilization that Russia. Russia is the country of Tolstoy Dostoevsky, It's the country of the Orthodox Church. It was one of the most religious countries in the world, and they. 00:49:47 Speaker 8: Has the most resources land resources. 00:49:50 Speaker 2: And this still shows today that if you pull Russians, one of the things is they have more survival based values. They're less likely to believe that charity is a good idea, that kindness to or it's others is an important value. This is all downstream of how badly the Communist Revolution, the Communist regime. It messed with their psychology, it did deep and lasting damage to their psyche, and it killed millions of people. It's just a tremendous tragedy. It can it is the worst event to have happened in the twentieth century that that occurred. 00:50:20 Speaker 8: I often tell people when I went to Russia, it felt it felt like alternate nineteen eighty five in a lot of ways, like the from Back to the Future, because it felt like something was off, something with it was wrong right. And because people no matter where you go in the world, this is just what I've learned that people are generally very similar to one another. They have the same passions, the same loves, the same hates, the same desires, the same will to you know, for the most part, with different cultural things. But Russia felt like such like an like an oppositional America, right like it's just like everything that went possibly wrong, that could have done wrong, went wrong, and that was all things to all. 00:51:00 Speaker 2: Thanks to a handful of incredibly evil people. 00:51:02 Speaker 8: And it was just a handful, just a handful. The nineteen seventeen Russian Revolution was a super minority. 00:51:09 Speaker 2: Super minority. Super minorities with bad ideas can destroy your country. I wanted to get to an email that was sent in because I think it's really good. This came from Judy and it was about the start of the show where we were talking about Mamdani or Mega Mangionism versus maga, the need for reform, and I mentioned how a lot of people have fallen out of jobs that used to provide good opportunities because immigrants have totally replaced them. And she had this great email. She said, I have had the same experience that you saw with roofers in rural southeast Nebraska. I remember in two thousand I was leaving church after a funeral. There was a crew repairing or replacing the roof on the Elks Lodge. They were all local American guys. One of whom had gone to the same elementary school through high school with me. Fast forward to twenty twenty two. I needed a roof installed. I was horrified when the local company showed up and it was all foreign labor. None of them spoke English, and they had come from Omaha. It's two and a half hours away, and that's a city in the middle of the country. I was furious. I mentioned this to another contractor and he said, that's how it is. Even if an American wants to work in a job and is satisfied with the wages and conditions. Can you imagine being the only person there who doesn't speak Spanish. How would that work? How would you be able to work on a roof and use heavy equipment if everyone else is a foreigner primarily using Spanish. I just thought that was a great email from Judy, very aware of what the crisis is. This is what we have to fix. We need blue collar jobs that are not just accessible to Americans, but welcoming to Americans. Important food for thought, great questions today, great week of shows. We look forward to seeing all of you again on Monday. 00:52:46 Speaker 9: Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about y Refi for some time. 00:52:54 Speaker 17: Now. 00:52:55 Speaker 9: We are all in with these guys. 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I want to just take a moment to note there are a lot of other really bad ones, and usually the only thing making them not as bad as the Bolsheviks is they were mercifully short. There's a guy Bela Kun took over Hungary Communist revolution, incredibly violent, incredibly horrible, but thankfully he was defeated Yea in Romania. I mean, those later ones, the Iron Curtain, all horrible in their own way, but they all do flow out of that one Bolshevik revolution. Even this was even it was mostly a marginal extremist movement until they happened to pull off a fluke Win in a revolution, and it's been poisoning the West ever since. There are all these academics who embraced Marxism, not because there's any evidence in favor of it, but just because one of them took over a superpower. Ideas have consequences, as we see with them, as we see with figures like Obama, LBJ, the Jo Ron Mam Donnie today. It bears emphasis. 00:54:50 Speaker 8: Shashishku in Romania. Interesting story. So the place where the government operates out of is it's known as Shashisku's Palace. You can see it from space. But they basically just murdered every person that lived within that whatever that like city block that they built the entire thing and like took their property and just built this entire like very ornate palace. It's quite the site. But it's so huge. Half of it's empty. Yeah, I think more than half is empty. I've walked through. I've actually been in a few times. It's like, but that's like heaviest building in the world. Scary stuff. But these these people like and if you study in all these places, whether it's Romania, Bulgaria where it's been tested, in the Baltic States, you know, Russia I spent most of my time, it's these are scary, scary ideas that have murdered people, have left people and wrecked them. People are poor than they've ever been. Like, there are places in some of these places in Eastern Europe that it looks like it looks like a third world world country that you would never be able to envision anywhere else. 00:56:00 Speaker 2: It's so upset. 00:56:01 Speaker 8: They don't even have electricity or running water. 00:56:03 Speaker 2: We want a more upbute question. So this is a great one. This is named right at you, Tyler. I believe Tim your next unmute yourself and what's your question for Tyler? 00:56:12 Speaker 12: Hey, Tyler Yeah, since you're on the show to today, I thought this would be a good opportunity to ask you about something I've wondered about. I'm very intrigued by the work you're doing with going out in the ballot harvesting, and I was just kind of curious some of the details around that stuff. I'm looking at my calendar. How many how many days typically does somebody come out for you know, how many how many day should I plan to be there? And I was just kind of wanting is it typically done in the evenings, is it something you do all day? Is it more on the weekends week days? And what kind of training do you guys provide beforehand? So, yeah, just kind of some of the logistics about that would be helpful. 00:56:47 Speaker 8: No, we appreciate it, and thank you, Tim, and yeah, we're looking forward to having you out. So we actually are launching our Commit one hundred program on Monday, so you can see it right behind me. It's tpaction dot com Slash one hundred is the thing that keeps falling down That will be live this uh this next Monday. And the idea is is that we actually and we're encouraging people to go to Arizona, New Hampshire, or Nevada. We need as many people as we humanly can in Arizona. So if you can, if you can, bookmark yourself for any time in October, Arizona's it. We generally like to schedule people through our Commit one hundred program for about a week or more. So if you can spend a week, if you can, if you could take a week off work, great, I mean we'll take less time and we'll have different like uh levels of that. If you will, We'll start by booking people for weeks at a time, starting on Monday, and you come out and we do a training on day one, so you writing you're either at our headquarters or your hotel that you're staying in, and we'd usually do Tradium. 00:57:51 Speaker 2: It's a class. It's just right there in the Action building. 00:57:53 Speaker 8: It takes about three hours. We take you through everything and we give you more training than anyone's ever given people who volunteer for these types of things. And then you get a list of one hundred people. So we call it the Commit one hundred program because you have one hundred people that were trying to chase their vote. So October when the time we book you to come out. The early ballots are already out. People have their ballots sitting on their countertop effectively, and you're going out and chasing one hundred of those people to try to get their ballots in. Obviously, for our guys in Arizona would be Andy Biggs in Nevada, Joe Lombardo and Johnson Nunu in New Hampshire. So yes, if you can plan the time now, this is for everyone that's listening. Take the time now to plan one to two weeks. If you can in Arizona, we'll put you in a hotel you could spend the time. You can work mostly during the day. The question is when can you work. Generally, you have to get this work done before the sunsets because people will get really freaked out if you can knock on their door try to contact them after dark. And so most of this is during the day and so then your nights are free, and so you can kind of do fun stuff and you know, see Arizona or Vegas or New Hampshire. New Hampshire beautiful that time of year to just kind of go mill around and see the sites and all that stuff. And then half the weekends as well, because most of most of the work can get done if you do it well Monday through Friday, so two weeks worth of work, you should be able to make contact and chase one hundred ballots. Our target is ten ballots per day, and obviously that's that's if you get all of them. We don't expect everyone to get absolutely every vote out, but we're trying to and that's why we've we've done the Commit one hundred program the way that we had and with. 00:59:38 Speaker 2: Super effective intensity, high investment, but we're hoping it will pay big dibends. 00:59:43 Speaker 8: This last election cycle, our Commit one hundred program chased eighty six percent of the votes that were that we were chasing. That's the lowest of low propensity voters. Eighty six percent of them turned out. Obviously President Trump helped a lot, and people were familiar with them, so that helped. But yeah, our ballot chasers did an incredible job. Who came out and volunteer, that's awesome. 01:00:03 Speaker 2: So we hope that you're able to take part. Thank you for that question. I think we have Anthony next, Anthony on mute yourself. What's your cue? 01:00:11 Speaker 17: Hey, guys, how are you both doing we're doing great, Tyler. Actually I can add to something you said about food and stuff at events. The GOP of my town just did their first meet and greet for a town supervisor candidate. They've never done one, and they raised almost ten thousand dollars in two hours. 01:00:27 Speaker 8: Wow. 01:00:28 Speaker 2: They had food, Yeah, gotta have food. 01:00:30 Speaker 16: They had. 01:00:31 Speaker 17: They did finger foods when nobody was sitting down so people could still mingle, yep and everything, and they talk with the candidate and people wrote checks of I'll say this, five hundred dollars are more right than there in that night. 01:00:41 Speaker 8: It's great. In Wisconsin they do something similar. They do a lot of these, a lot of beer and wine nights where they congregate. Everybody brings a bottle and they have they you know, sip and then they are able to kind of talk about these things. It's great. I mean any way that you do it, whether it's donuts or whatever, right like, you got to have something, so the food matters. 01:01:02 Speaker 17: But my question is this, So I've been reading in Massachusetts that the governor is trying to create some Muslim commission to help Islamic Muslims get into state positions. Is that first legal Also, is that another form of DEI because now you're making it one group and you're segregating the rest. 01:01:25 Speaker 2: So I've been reading about this and is it legal? What they It's all very dodgy. So what it is is it's a proposed bill, so I think it's legislators. I don't know if the governor has endorsed it, but it's coming out of the legislature and it would it's an old bill that they're reintroducing, and it would basically create a formal eleven member commission. So that's why it might be legal. I don't know if there's really restrictions on you can make a body to suggest things and stick people on it. But it is a group whose purpose is to advise and advocate for Muslim Americans and then you know, make recommendations about how to respond to Islamophobia. And it does seem like one aspect of it is to suggest potential Muslims for positions in the States. So I think they could straight up say maybe if there's a judicial vacancy, oh this, you know, you'd have Muslims appointed to it. So one percent is DEI. It is DEI because you are creating a special group for this like novel minority group to advocate for them, they're going to inevitably start suggesting, Oh, here's how you should restrict freedom of speech to curb Islamophobia. Here's policies you should have at universities to prevent the rise of anti Muslim hate. It's not good to create entities like this really for any group, but especially a group that we're worried is not very ideologically amenable to the West, to Christendom. It is a bad sign, to say the least. 01:02:50 Speaker 8: So yeah, to put this, put this in the context, and some of this is happening, by the way, because there were some commissions and some laws that have been put into place UH to fight anti Semitism in a similar way, which a lot of people attacked UH, some Republicans who voted against those for this very reason. A lot of Freedom Caucus members had actually voted against ideas like this. 01:03:16 Speaker 2: Again, it's playing on the left playing field if you do too much of that, and that we oppose anti semitism strongly. Charlie was worried about this though, that if you're creating a group to generate solutions, it's very likely going to end up being. 01:03:29 Speaker 8: And now here we are want hate speech now here we are now they're they're putting these same commissions together for Islam and and and to your point, it's far like far more dangerous and there's not there's not dangerous introductions that we're seeing, uh, that are similar to our kin to sharia law in your local community. And so this is this is a horrible idea. This is a terrible idea. This is a part of the reason why, you know, we shouldn't have these types of groups for you know, any any religious minority like there's we. 01:04:04 Speaker 2: Don't need any permanent commission whose job is to go around and find ways and solve any phobia crisis. Government never saw lights a crisis. So that's definitely our take on this. We have one minute till the break here, but maybe you can answer this quick. We have a written question from Zach. He says, I'm seeing polls that Husted will lose in Ohio. That's the Senate race, I believe, and the vague is within one percent. Is this true? I live in Ohio. I don't see that happening. How worried should we be? 01:04:30 Speaker 8: One of the things right now, remember early to mid August is usually the worst polling era when you when you hold the presidency for the party in power. So this is this. These weeks are the worst polls typically historically that we've seen. So there's a lot of freaking out going on because there's a lot of a lot of bad polls that that seemingly bad polls that are out there right now, and many of the swing states. I would just say, kind of hold onto your pants, see where we end up. About a month from now, we'll know, we'll have a much better idea of how things are shaking out. It's most much more likely that things are going to tighten up in all the swing states by early September. 01:05:10 Speaker 2: We've got a few questions to go. We got this written question that I really like. Tyler Kelsey asks, I enjoy thinking about the random, small things I loved about Charlie, like when he would give Blake the Hillsdale Roman history quizzes for fun during breaks. Are there any quirky or small things Charlie did that you miss about him that people might not know about. I was thinking about a funny one we had Sonya zawazawakhows I'm inheriting it here. We had the documentary filmmaker if thank you for sharing who has a long, polishounding last name. And I was remembering, do you remember how Charlie he could not usually pronounce like weird names that well. And what was funny about it was you could repeat it for him right to him and it like still wouldn't quite work. It was just a very funny quirk of his and I got such a kick out of it every time. 01:05:57 Speaker 8: Yeah, I miss on the day to day basis. So I've had I've been obviously in one on one chat with Charlie for you know, eleven now almost twelve years, and I miss so much just last year of just like we would just drop the funniest things into our chats, right and it would be like a lot of our chats was, especially the last few years, was like me Andrew and Charlie with the political stuff and handling all the media and stuff like that. But his response oftentimes was yeah, in cabs, I love to I quit now all caps lmao, Like that would be his like most frequent comments, OMG, oh my gosh, lmao, I liked I quit, which would be like there would be like some email that was really really bizarre. So I never I was never an LMAO guy, but this last year I've kind of adopted the LMAO with with the things when so I see something funny and sometimes it's just makes me feel like Charlie's in the room, and it just makes me sad that I can't drop it to him and have him do it. So real, I feel like we have. 01:07:02 Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff, right, fun stuff and serious stuff where I always think like, how would he react to this? What would he do well? 01:07:09 Speaker 8: And I go back through our chats and I read them, you know, and you know, I'm so against people sharing his private communications. I've been so disgusted with people who drop I have literally thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of chats to Charlie and I would never even think about sharing even semi positive stuff, and I and even the positive things that are not controversial or trying to make a point or something like that. You know, I feel bad even, you know, sharing, but I think people that do that have been awful. But I will read through all those chats and kind of just it makes me feel like you're back in that moment right and get inspiration for kind of where we're at now, and that that's really I read the things that he said, like even like almost ten years ago, right, and it's and the difference between obviously Charlie, yeah, grew up, he matured like in so many different ways, but he was so much of the same person people have no idea, like in twenty when I met him in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, he was such a brilliant person that gave so much insight, you know, even before some of these things were a big deal, and he was so right about so many things. 01:08:21 Speaker 2: It's early on before. 01:08:22 Speaker 8: It's almost like in many ways, you know, he was just so ahead of his time. 01:08:26 Speaker 2: I like this. Caboose points out I miss playing music before segments and him trying to guess the song artist. That's another one. It's very funny because Charlie he had a few bits of pop culture he really liked, but it was very limited and so he. 01:08:39 Speaker 8: Didn't really know I know, yeah, he didn't know a huge as wats of artists. 01:08:43 Speaker 2: So funny, so cute, the Pieto and you know that was that was one of his strengths. To be honest, we all miss him so much and we'll be hearing. You'll be hearing us say more about that. Of course, as the anniversary approaches. We have one more question. I think we have, Ben, Ben, unmute yourself. You have a question. What is it? 01:09:01 Speaker 15: All right? 01:09:01 Speaker 2: Can you hear here? 01:09:02 Speaker 7: We go? 01:09:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, we can hear you, Ben. What's your question? 01:09:05 Speaker 12: Hi? 01:09:05 Speaker 16: All right? 01:09:06 Speaker 15: So something off topic. I know it's not something that you guys were talking about, but I have a concern when presidents do pardons. And I was wondering, is there a certain extent that a president cannot pardon or does something have to happen in order for the people to address this issue? 01:09:32 Speaker 2: So this has been litigated a bit, and the answer basically is there is essentially no limit to a president's pardon power over federal charges. A big reason for this. The US president, in a lot of ways, is the successor to the old King of England, like a royal monarch, and the pardon power is traditionally a royal power that a monarch has this power of life and death over his subjects. He has the power to punish, but also the power to grant mercy, and that was inherited by the United States president. The Constitution says he just has the power of pardon. It's generally being interpreted extremely broadly, so the president he can do a total pardon before someone even goes on trial. That's what Nixon received for example. They can commute certain parts of a sentence, but not all of it. They can pardon some charges but not others. The only limit is they are limited to federal crimes. So this has come up. For example, people want President Trump to pardon Derek Shalvin, but you could only get rid of the federal charge, not the Minnesota state charge. That would come down to the governor. Obviously, we've seen there's a lot of controversy that comes from this that some presidents have. You know, they've given pardons to people who are donors or are linked with donors. They've given pardons to family members. A lot of that's controversial and understandably so, but there isn't a limit on it in the Constitution. We would almost certainly need an amendment to cur that, and I think there's arguments to be made in favor of it, But there's also arguments to be made in favor of the full pardon power, just because it is a little bit of a safety valve that we have for the Republic where you you can have something like J six. It got out of control, it became this big tumor on the American Republic, and President Trump said, I am going to lance that boil, squeeze out the pus, make that problem. They just resolve it like that, And I think that's the best argument in favor of it. Thank you for your question, Ben. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.