Iran: The Air War vs. the Airwaves War

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The Iran war has been a stunning aerial success. Is the economists. This is you know, this is not state media. This is theonymoist and this is without doubt true. But the subhead is also true, even if at the political level its direction is a mess. Now listen, I was an early critic, as was Blake, that this war had not been sold to the American public sufficiently. I believe that to be the case. I will also give them credit. In the days that have ensued since the initial strikes, they've done a better job of explaining the why and the why now. But so two things can be true at once. Our military is second to none. When President Trump luds the military, when Secretary of warpete Hegseth explains just how lethal and precise and incredible they are, all those things are true. Our military men and women are the best in the world, and our aerial assault has proven to be the best in the world. And look at what we did at in Venezuela. Absolutely true. But some of you have been upset with us in our take because we haven't been sufficiently I guess enthusiastic. But I want to bring your attention and Blake actually before I get there, why don't you explain? 00:03:12 Speaker 2: Why don't you say what you were going to say? 00:03:13 Speaker 4: Well, I'm just I think what we are seeing is there's kind of two wars. There's the literal air war over Iran, and there's the airwaves war. 00:03:20 Speaker 2: There's the war over public opinion. 00:03:23 Speaker 4: Every war goes that way, and it's a little different from conflicts you've had in the past, where if you know, if you want to use an obvious example, world War two. World War II starts with one hundred percent popular support for the war because the Japanese bomb is at Pearl Harbor. Everyone is on board, and it would only go down from there. 00:03:40 Speaker 2: If there, you know, were a lot of set back. 00:03:42 Speaker 4: Saw this on saw this after nine eleven, You saw this after nine to eleven. Afghanistan ninety five percent support for that war goes down from there. Iraq probably sixty five seventy percent support for that war when it began, goes down from there. This is different where we seem to be starting with at best fifty fifty maybe less support. And the plan is that they can sell it through how successful it is. 00:04:06 Speaker 3: And by the way, I do want to say, this could end up proving and I said this yesterday to be the absolutely right geopolitical national security. 00:04:15 Speaker 2: They have information we don't. 00:04:16 Speaker 3: Yes, and you would be a fool not to see the potential upside of controlling the strait of hormones, of getting rid of a milignant actor in the number one state sponsor of terrorism in the Middle East. There's a thousand upsides. 00:04:31 Speaker 2: If Trump can. 00:04:31 Speaker 4: Say you're never going to be hearing about Iran like you've been hearing from them for the past forty five years. Ever, again, yes, that's a good thing, but we have an obligation to make this point because some people are saying, people are saying, actually the base is. 00:04:45 Speaker 2: Super united behind this, like they're fine on that. 00:04:48 Speaker 4: And we had students on the show yesterday and we just we wanted to ask them. We said, be honest with us, what is the attitude like on campus about what has just happened? 00:04:59 Speaker 3: And they answered us and we told them not to be completely honest with us, and they were. And there's two clips here that I want to make sure we highlight and Blake you can call the first one. 00:05:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, And this was I believe this was asking the chapter leader at Appalachian State. 00:05:13 Speaker 2: So this is not an Ivy League school, This is not Berkeley. 00:05:16 Speaker 4: This is a school in you know, rural North Carolina, YEP, a lot of Trump voters five ninety two. 00:05:22 Speaker 3: So I want to start off by asking you guys to give us the vibe on campus of this the strikes against Iran. What's the vibe? What are people saying? Let's go ahead and start be honest with us. Yeah, beyond bad, tell us we want to know. We want the unvarnished truth. Brook you first. 00:05:39 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:05:39 Speaker 6: I think my campus, especially, people are very upset with the United States and their involvement. I think that a lot of direction is pointed at Israel and questioning our allies and the motives in that way. 00:05:58 Speaker 7: And Megan, Yeah, I definitely agree that it's the same vibe that we're having on campus, and I think more people don't want to see another war. 00:06:12 Speaker 3: All right, So that was we thought maybe that was just a broad segment, but then we asked a follow up question five ninety three copy, So are you seeing protests? Are you seeing are people gathering in the square in the quad? What kind of activities are you seeing this manifest in. 00:06:31 Speaker 6: I'm mostly seeing things through online platforms, people on Instagram or Twitter, just you know, really going in at President Trump and being upset that, you know, gas prices might go up and forever war Like, people really really do not want boots on the ground in this circumstance. 00:06:52 Speaker 4: Are you seeing that even from people that you know voted for Trump in twenty twenty four or is it more Is it still mostly from people you know would be left wing regardless, or. 00:07:03 Speaker 6: I think the idea of starting a new foreign war is really even for Trump voters, really deterring people from wanting to align with the administration and their actions. 00:07:15 Speaker 3: That should be a flashing red light to everybody that supports President Trump, which we completely support President Trump. I mean candidly where I'm at, Democrats are completely unacceptable in. 00:07:27 Speaker 4: Any way, shape or for the entire reason this matters is you do not want to alienate the voters who are who did vote this last year or two years ago, to get the illegals out, to secure the border, to put America first, and all of those things matter more than ever. 00:07:43 Speaker 2: The left has gone more insane than ever. 00:07:45 Speaker 3: On issue after issue, and mark my words, they are going to try and impeach this president. If they get the House, they will impeach him. And that's where we're going for in the second half of this hour. And you can be upset with me for telling you the truth, but I know this to be a fact. Put it that way, that they are going to use different let's call them controversies within this administration, and they are telegraphing their moves here. They understand that going after Trump was politically a disaster for them, and that's probably one of the reasons why we have President Trump in the first place. They're going to go for some of the lieutenants, and if they can keep the popularity of this war down, if even our own conservative students are alienated, then they've got a great chance of taking back the House, and we need to fight that. I'm not a doomer. I don't think this is set in stone. You talk about this now so that it doesn't become a reality later. And we are completely supportive of our military when the mission was, when they press go, when the green light was hit. We're all in for success, and we're praying for success, but we have to be honest about the polyittical ramifications as well. This year it marks a very critical moment in our country's history. As the opposition grows more aggressive and unapologetic and insane. The fight now reaches into everyday decisions we make. 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Or go to Patriot mubile dot com slash Charlie, use promo code Charlie for a free month of service. That's Patriot mubile dot com slash Charlie. Or call nine seven two Patriot and make the switch today. 00:10:15 Speaker 3: I want to throw up this image five to ninety six again. I don't want you guys to get mad at what we're telling you. It's just true that this is a politically frap war. Our military is second to none, that they're doing an incredible job. They've been planning these operations for a while. This could be the national security best call. But we have to be honest about the fact that, as Blake said, there's an air war, there's an aerial assault, and there's an airwaves war, there's a pr battle, and we have to be honest that this is going to be an uphill battle. Our kids on chapters warned us about this. But then there's this from Politico. US Central Command, meanwhile, is asking the Pentagon to send more military intelligence officers to its headquarters in Tampa, Florida, to support operations against Iran for at least one hundred days excuse me, but likely through September. 00:11:05 Speaker 4: According to a notification obtained by Politico. Now that obviously we don't trust the media automatically, but if they say a notification, my guess is they have some source who showed them basically the request being made and for how long it w was. 00:11:19 Speaker 3: So if this report is true, again, let's go back. We were told four to five weeks. We could move that up, we could move that back. I'm not a fan of putting timelines on military actions because war is unpredictable. War as hell. We don't know what's going to happen. So there's my starting point. I think, once you go, you better win. You can't put that genie back in the bottle. So I'm all for achieving missional objectives and strategic objectives in the region. Once you press go hear me out. But when there is a political calculation that you're also making in a midterm year, then when the timeline starts getting dragged out to one hundred days to September, there is going to be a political fallout. Our country is sick of being at war, the independence normies, young people, these are contingencies that are sick of being at war, and we need to consider them and keep them in mind. So that's a big, big thing. This is our flashing red light to say, don't forget gen Z, don't forget independence, don't forget the people that built the coalition that was big enough to win a popular vote in seven suing states. We have to consider this because if we lose in the mid terms. If I'm not saying we will, I'm not a doomer. We're gonna work our butts off to make sure that doesn't happen. But if you better believe it, they are going to impeach President Trump, and we don't know how many fighters we're going to have in the Senate. 00:12:49 Speaker 2: Impeach President Trump. 00:12:50 Speaker 4: If it goes bad enough, you lose the Senate, and that's much worse then Okay, yeah, they're doing their endless investigations from the House. 00:12:56 Speaker 2: That's bad. 00:12:57 Speaker 4: But if they take the Senate, very likely that the Democrats will say, we are just going to categorically not confirm any appointees by the Trump administration in House. No more judges, no more cabinet secretaries, no more under secretaries, anyone who leaves is just an empty slot. 00:13:13 Speaker 2: No more US attorneys. 00:13:16 Speaker 4: Oh, you can't investigate fraud in Minnesota or in or anywhere else. 00:13:22 Speaker 2: Those are the stakes. 00:13:23 Speaker 4: And so we have to say if this has political consequences, if this is going to be if they need to make a do a good job of selling. 00:13:30 Speaker 2: It, they need to know that. 00:13:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, And unfortunately, this whole hour is going to be a bit of tough medicine. I mean, it really is. And we're gonna get into the next segment some of the controversy brewing at DHS. If you're not aware of it, we're gonna fill you in because it's important. Why, Because these are arrows in the quiver of the Democrat Party. So play this out if not when, if it's a big if they control the House after the midterms, which historically is the norm, Okay, if they can troll the House after the midterms, if they make some ground in the Senate. We don't know how Susan Collins is going to vote. We don't know how Curtis and Utah is going to vote. 00:14:10 Speaker 2: McConnell. 00:14:11 Speaker 3: We don't know any of that stuff. All right, Conne will be out. We don't know how Lisa Murkowski is going to vote ram Paul even there's a lot of question marks in the Senate. So don't don't rest on the Senate either. And we just found out that, uh, Montana, I'm just Danes. Danes's announced his retirement. That came out the last minute in Montana. Meanwhile, she he is getting into fights in the the capital, broke some dude's hand, some protesters hand. 00:14:42 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think he meant to. 00:14:44 Speaker 3: It's obvious from the tape, but it was quite the video. So we're setting up a chessboard here where everything that we've worked for could be wiped away, and we can't let that happen. We need to go and clear eyed and understand the ramifications of the decisions that. 00:15:02 Speaker 2: Have been made. 00:15:03 Speaker 3: And I'm telling you that segment with our young people yesterday turning points students an appalation state of all places, Wreckers didn't surprise me as much. 00:15:14 Speaker 4: But now it is a blueish college town. But nevertheless it's still not an ivy league. But look where they're sourcing their The county was. 00:15:20 Speaker 2: Overall about fifty to fifty. I just checked. 00:15:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're sourcing their students at Appalachian State. Much different, you know, feeder system. 00:15:29 Speaker 4: And as we said, we asked people, you know who voted for Trump last year, how are they feeling? 00:15:34 Speaker 2: And they said pretty similar vibe. 00:15:36 Speaker 3: And I'm telling you, Charlie knew the same. This is why he was raising the flag warning ahead of Operation Midnight Hammer, because he understood that this was wildly unpopular. We sold President Trump too young people as the peace president. Now the truth is again underscoring our military second to none. We support our warriors, We want success. We want this to be the last most conflict in the Middle East ever. We want to take Iran as a malignant force in the region off the map. And this could be very well could be the right geopolitical move, the right national. 00:16:10 Speaker 4: Security I want to answer a specific email here that we got. Liz says, why would you have college students, two opinions that could not be more accurate on your show to be propaganda. 00:16:20 Speaker 2: Charlie spoke to college. 00:16:21 Speaker 4: Students all the time, their voters on campus all the time. He had panels with them all the time. He cared about their opinions and he wanted to know what they were both because that's the only way you can convince them, but also because they are the future and they're voters. 00:16:35 Speaker 3: They're voters, and they're eighteen and over all of them. 00:16:38 Speaker 4: Charlie would absolutely listen to what they had to say and he would not dismiss them if it was not what he wanted. 00:16:43 Speaker 3: Here's the other thing I want people to keep in mind. It's a leading indicator. When you see all the chatter online and the movement of opinion, a lot of that starts on TikTok and Instagram and memes doesn't stay there. What happens on college campus doesn't stay on college campus. 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Just go to yrefi dot com and tell them your friend Andrew sent you. 00:18:00 Speaker 2: All right, Welcome to the show. 00:18:01 Speaker 3: Right now is Mike hal He's the president of the Oversight Project. 00:18:05 Speaker 2: Welcome to show, Mike, great. 00:18:07 Speaker 8: To have you, Thanks for having me on. 00:18:08 Speaker 3: Absolutely all right, we should set this up. 00:18:11 Speaker 8: So set it up. 00:18:12 Speaker 4: Christino is head of DHS, and she went to Congress this past week for two days of hearings before the Senate and the House on a whole raft of things and will be blunt. What stands out about it is she got tough questions, obviously from Democrats, but also from some Republicans. 00:18:31 Speaker 3: Yes, and Republicans that we like and we respect. Mike, why don't you set the table. I've got a couple of clips. I've got one from Senator Kennedy, and we have some headlines when I get to but the floor is yours. 00:18:41 Speaker 8: Yeah, So no doubt. 00:18:43 Speaker 9: It's been a rough couple months at the Department of Homeland Security. I mean, the most obvious thing is the deportation numbers are just way too low. It's President Trump's central campaign promise to conduct mass deportations. They're only at a couple hundred thousand, and so that's number one. But what the secretary took heap or is really from multiple angles is, you know, ethics issues, and it came from Republicans and Democrats and primarily related to. 00:19:08 Speaker 8: The contracting process and doing so. 00:19:11 Speaker 9: The thing that jumps out of me the most as an oversight guy I run the oversight project is the implication of the President of the United States, President Trump, in that because she was taken on heated questions about a two hundred million dollar ad by on Fox News telling illegal alience to self deport. 00:19:27 Speaker 8: Pause for a second, not a lot of. 00:19:28 Speaker 9: Illegal aliens watch Fox News where that advertisement was primarily played, And she said the President. 00:19:34 Speaker 8: Told her to do it. And so if I'm a White House lawyer. 00:19:37 Speaker 9: Knowing that the president is most likely going to be impeached if Democrats win the House, I have a lot of concern about the fact that, you know, one of my cabinet secretaries just implicated the president and a vector of that. That's one of the angles. There's a lot more, but it was a really rough couple of days. 00:19:52 Speaker 2: And we have that clip. 00:19:53 Speaker 4: This is Senator Kennedy from Louisiana, So again a senator we like asking her about yes, the two hundred and twenty million dollar add buy let's do five eighty six. 00:20:05 Speaker 5: How do you square that concern for waste, which I share with the fact that you have spent two hundred and twenty million dollars running television advertisements that feature you prominently. 00:20:28 Speaker 10: Sir, The President tasked me with getting the message out to the country and to other countries where we were seeing the invasion come from, with putting commercials out that told them that if they were in this country illegally, that they needed to leave or we would detain them and remove them and they'd not get the chance to come back to America the right way. 00:20:47 Speaker 11: But that has been extremely effective. 00:20:49 Speaker 8: Ask you. 00:20:51 Speaker 5: To run these advertisements? Is that right? 00:20:53 Speaker 11: We had that conversation. 00:20:55 Speaker 3: Yes, all right, So it continues on here, Mike, there's a second part of this that's important, becase, as you could see Kennedy's kind of zeroing in here five ninety seven. 00:21:04 Speaker 5: You're testifying that President Trump approved this ahead of time? 00:21:08 Speaker 10: Should im understand we had conversations about making sure that we were telling people. 00:21:15 Speaker 5: I'm asking you a short interrupt, but the President approved ahead of time you spending two hundred and twenty million dollars running TV EDGs across the country in which you are featured prominently. 00:21:29 Speaker 11: Yes, sir, we went through the legal processes. Did it correct? Yes? 00:21:34 Speaker 5: He did? 00:21:35 Speaker 11: Yes, Okay, And one thing Senator. 00:21:39 Speaker 10: I think would be helpful to know is how effective that communications has been. 00:21:44 Speaker 3: So this has sparked massive, massive amounts of rumors, and let's just throw out some of these. This is uh uh I guess five ninety Trump mules Gnome firing. This is from punch Bowl News. This was the first to get it after this interaction five eighty eight. This is from Daily Beasts, not somebody we typically reference here on the show. But nevertheless, now rumors are swirling. 00:22:15 Speaker 2: Mike, what put it this way? 00:22:18 Speaker 3: You set up the stakes, Well, if Democrats get control of the House, he's going to be impeached. They would love something like this to be true. Where the DHS secretary is featured prominently is what secretary Senator Kennedy said. They would love for this to be an ethics violation or some sort of corruption. But it goes deeper than this, does it not. There is reporting about airplanes, there's reporting about budgets with former spokespeople. Layout kind of what she's dealing with here. 00:22:53 Speaker 9: Yes, she's taking it on from a lot of different angles, and it primarily revolves around the movement of money and the goal. You know, perceptions and issues, and a lot of them came, you know, a full display to hearing from Republicans and Democrats. So let's recall reconciliation, one big beautiful bill, forty billion dollars to go to ICE to hire more agents, get detachment facilities. That money really hasn't been spent yet. It's not getting out in the field. We aren't seeing big detention facilities and manpower increases stood up. 00:23:21 Speaker 8: Instead, the money first was spent on you know, these. 00:23:24 Speaker 9: Kind of marketing and communications you know ploys, which I call you know, mass communications instead of mass deportations. Now you add to that and you know, failure on the operational side, the ethical scandal that is brewing, and it opens up a vector for Democrats and even you know a lot of Republicans to attack the president's central mandate of his you know, administration, which is the security border and mass deportations. 00:23:49 Speaker 8: And then to make matters worse. 00:23:50 Speaker 9: You can imagine when these impeachment inquiries into the secretary open, it's going to go right to the President's desk. And you know, Senator Kennedy is a really smart lawyer. He understod the importance and the liability of what the Secretary laid out there when she implicated the president. And I think he was trying to do the White House is solid by making them see, you know, very clearly where this trail would inevitably lead. 00:24:14 Speaker 4: It's the reason we're emphasizing this is. This is clearly it's basically the most important department within this president's administration. It is his most important campaign promise is to deliver on border security deportations. And as we know from what happened in Minneapolis, it's inevitable we're going to get a lot of pressure on the stuff that needs to happen. That we need ICE agents out there arresting people. There's going on incidents non negotiable. You're going to take heat for that. It is entirely avoidable and optional to take heat for the advertising budget. This is what I wanted to zero in with you, Mike. I totally agree. You just said something that's incredibly striking. And actually I'm sitting here boiling if I'm being honest. You just said we're not getting detention facilities and correct what so what other contracts are not getting out the door while we're getting marketing budgets? 00:25:10 Speaker 8: Yeah, the Hill. 00:25:10 Speaker 9: You know, no one wants to throw shade at this issue, and I'm certainly not here to throw shade, but it's the reality that you know, forty billion. 00:25:18 Speaker 8: Dollars, not much of it has been Spence. 00:25:20 Speaker 9: DHS hasn't even updated at Capitol Hill on the money that's gone out, most of it's been tied up. 00:25:25 Speaker 8: One example is the border wall contracts. 00:25:28 Speaker 9: Those only left the Secretary's desk a few months ago because they were being held up in you know this type of you know, contract approval procedure that has come under you know, this ethical you know scandal. And so the result was, you know, President Trump got very upset that the wall wasn't being built when he saw the reports of it not going up. 00:25:45 Speaker 8: There was a fingerpointing exercise within the department as to whose fault that was. 00:25:49 Speaker 9: It ended up that the contracts were sitting on this secretary's desk as the price of steel increased massively. And then ultimately, after you know some darius a few weeks ago, the contracts finally moved. And that's just like one example. And so we can move from the board off stuff to. 00:26:05 Speaker 4: So I just want to put it that when you say sitting on the desk, do you mean that literally like we're waiting for a signature. 00:26:12 Speaker 9: Yes, right, Well, what's happened is and it is unusual, and the Secretary has has toll lall makers this that she approves all contracts over certain and now which has led to you know, removal authority from cvp Ice and elsewhere and centralized it at headquarters H and that has led to some of the infighting and I call it drama and again not commas in the deportation number. And that's why so many people at DHS are at each other's throats as laid. And it's no secret that the camps had been fighting at first. It was internal that it's it's spilled over into the press with you know, targeted leagues of blaming each other back and forth. 00:26:48 Speaker 8: And so that's the environment of DHS. 00:26:50 Speaker 9: But why I care is because we're here to get mass deportations done. And if these facilities aren't stood up a SAP and many are waiting to go, then we are not going to execute the mass deportation agenda. And so like that's what I care about. But when you open up an ethical flank to that, that gives ricostiture Republicans Democrats an angle to make sure that we can't even at a later date, get that money spent. 00:27:14 Speaker 8: It's a disaster. And I think that's why the President's so upset about it. 00:27:18 Speaker 3: I mean, I've been very clear on this show. This is my personally. This is my number one issue. I think it's existential to the future of the country. We must enforce our sovereignty. We must have a border wall, we must deport criminal legal aliens, and everybody needs to be on the table to deport. By the way, no amnesty, none of this sob story stuff. This is what got President Trump elected more than anything else. When we have to see it through, I have some breaking news. This is a White House correspondent from Reuter's Nandita Bose or Bose. I'm not sure how you pronounce it. If you guys could get that. 00:27:54 Speaker 4: President Trump told Reuters he did not sign off on a two hundred million dollar add by featuring DHS Secretary Christinome and had nothing to. 00:28:04 Speaker 2: Do with it. 00:28:04 Speaker 3: That is a massive signal, right there, we talk about signal and noise when President Trump, I mean that means that President Trump is aware of the machinations and the scheming against him and is concerned enough about this to set the record straight. Mike, how do you interpret this? 00:28:22 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you're right. It's a massive signal. It's President Trump saying he's had enough of this. And look, obviously he did not sign off on two hundred million dollars add. 00:28:30 Speaker 8: By to play on Fox. 00:28:31 Speaker 9: News to tell illegals to self deport, which, by the way, only you know, less than one hundred thousand ended up using the application CPP. 00:28:39 Speaker 8: One to actually do that. He just has released numbers. 00:28:42 Speaker 9: But this is the president and his lawyer saying, we're not going to get dragged down into this investment in quarry just because she brought up his name. 00:28:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, and here's here's the other thing. 00:28:51 Speaker 3: So there was a contract that was supposed to go out I think was part of this marketing budget to recruit agents new ICE agents, because we had ten thousand plus to fill correct and that I'm told that those numbers got filled pretty quickly, and yet without much of the budget being spent. You have you heard the same, Yeah, I. 00:29:14 Speaker 8: Think ICE recruitment numbers are good right now. 00:29:17 Speaker 9: These ads, though, I think related to the CBP one app and the self deportation if you're called, they featured you know, the secretary prominently and almost you know, predominantly aired on Fox Use and Night, which again you know, legal aliens don't watch, and so they initially grabbed a lot of attention as being unusual, and then you add into it. The allegations that the contract was like a soul source emergency funding deal that went to someone with political connections to the secretary. And that was the feature of hearings yesterday and the day before. You know, allegations will crush there. 00:29:48 Speaker 3: No, and I get that one. So that's one bucket. But wasn't there a second bucket to recruit ice agents. 00:29:53 Speaker 4: I think they had the money to recruit ice agents, They got the recruits they needed, and they just kept spending it, which I'd have the implication that someone really wanted, you know, they could have returned that money, use that for something else, right. 00:30:06 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:30:06 Speaker 9: The overall thrust of this is these ads read a self promotion and political advertising as opposed to mission focus. 00:30:12 Speaker 8: Thanks. 00:30:12 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:30:13 Speaker 3: So here's another clip with Christy Nome. I believe this is Sheldon white House, who I don't like, so take it with a grain of salt. But it's about this luxury DHS jet, which is another story. There's an axios broke this last week. Mike, I, I'm sure you saw it, but for our audience who may not be aware, six oh three, could you explain. 00:30:32 Speaker 11: This, sir. 00:30:37 Speaker 10: I'm looking at a picture of an interior looks like a bedroom. 00:30:43 Speaker 6: Of an airplane. 00:30:45 Speaker 11: Yes, sir, you're not familiar with that. These photos are not accurate. 00:30:48 Speaker 10: If you're referring to the airplanes that the Department of Homeland Security has. 00:30:53 Speaker 11: Purchased and are purchasing. 00:30:55 Speaker 10: We're using them for long range command and controller aircraft. It is dictated in statute by Congress for the deminable security to have a. 00:31:04 Speaker 8: Plane, luxury jet with a bedroom in it. 00:31:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike, here's the Axios story from last week. What do you know about this separate fact from from fiction. I don't trust Sheldon white House at all, so I'm not gonna tell it. 00:31:18 Speaker 8: That's the problem. 00:31:18 Speaker 9: You know, we don't want Sheldon white House and the Democrats ever to be right or have a leg up. But here like not doing them any favors. When money that was supposed to be sent spent on deportation aircraft or being used for luxury travel for the Secretary and others, and you know the actually story checks out. I mean, one of these jets they claimed was for deportation usage, and the contract is being used for like international junkets and travel, and you juxtapose that against the secretary you spent very little time at DHS headquarters by some counts less than like a month a month of time there and is instead focused on, you know, traveling the globe and elsewhere. It kind of begins to just look like what it is, and it's the use of the emergency funds and the want to be Beautiful bill money which is supposed to be getting illegals out, is being used to get you know, the Secretary of the Homeland of security around the world in the country and style. And it just gives Democrats such high ground to make these types of argument, and I don't want to be watching Sheldon Whitehouse and others had that high ground, and that's why it's such a problem. 00:32:18 Speaker 3: So this is pretty pretty frustrating to hear. This is this is was kind of the main reason that I I mean, I don't know, there was a lot of reasons, but like deportations was top of my list. 00:32:31 Speaker 4: Now devil, you know, doubles advocate. Obviously this has been critical. The thing is, Okay, let's say the President dismisses her, appoints someone new to the position. Are we able to continue doing deportations, doing the wall, doing the things that need to be done while that position goes unfilled, possibly for months on end, like that interim or something. Yeah, so there will be an interim. Will that person be able to deliver on all the things we care about or would we want to maybe have the President give her a stern tongue lashing but keep her around purely because we can't afford that two month pause. 00:33:05 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:33:05 Speaker 9: So on the first part of the question, yes, I mean, if you recalling Trump one, we basically ran on acting secretaries while the border wall was being built, which isn't without its problems, but you know, you could the OBB money is insulated from the shutdown and all of that, and so it really comes down to policy changes at the department that needs to happen. One is, you know, open the aperture of the deportation program. You know, we got to move from this near exclusive focus on criminals to getting the numbers up, which means work side enforcement, you know, to get into the millions, which you know President Trump promised to meet Eisenhower and that's what it'll take. So that policy change isn't going to happen under current leadership. And then second is this this process which is just hunkered down, the moving of this critical forty billion dollars worth of money, and now it's going to be even harder to move that money under current leadership, with everybody just so focused on the perceptions of ethical issues in that contracting. Politically speaking, of course, it's the president's decision to make, and you know he's got the insight into what needs to be done there. But there are people that could come in and get confirmed by the Senate rather quickly, and if you've seen their names flooding around, I mean, Jason Chafitz could fly through the Senate and he's got a lot of experience and wants the deportation numbers up. Mark Morgan, the former head of CVP and Ice and Trump won. He's an operator who knows how to get things done, has law enforced the experience to rank and file support. He could fly through the Senate. So these are all things that I'm sure the White House is laying with their optionality of, you know, having more insight into the various variables in this moving exercise. 00:34:40 Speaker 3: So, Mike, this has been excellent. Thank you for a dispassionate presentation of the facts. We don't want to run to rush to judgment, but certainly This is troubling because we have an electorate, a base, a coalition that wants to focus on local domestic issues. Meanwhile, we've got a war in Iran, strikes ongoing, the timeline keeps stretching out. It's gonna be a grueling campaign, even if it is the right geopolitical move to make. Meanwhile, the domestic number one issue, the issue that basically unites the entire base, the entire coalition, is deportation, sealing the border, getting tough on immigration. And it seems to be just a complete mess. And that is a formula for disaster. Mike, thank you so much the Oversight project. This has been excellent. We're gonna have you on again soon as this develops. 00:35:32 Speaker 8: Thank you appreciate it. 00:35:36 Speaker 2: Folks. 00:35:37 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something straight up. I'm extremely picky about what I put in my body and what companies we support. 00:35:43 Speaker 2: Here. 00:35:44 Speaker 3: Blackout Coffee checks every single box. This is a family run American company roasting fresh coffee in the USA, built by people who believe in hard work, freedom and America. 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I mean, I don't know how many follows you have on. 00:37:32 Speaker 2: X or whatever. 00:37:33 Speaker 3: It's a lot over a million. And you used to be a left winger. I don't know how far left, but you were. You were a Democrat definitely, and then you basically had a conversion story and you happen to be a nuclear scientist and you happen to be in Phantas. It's like, you need to come in and explain enrichment because we got this Iran situation going on. But let's start with your conversion. Give us your your backstory and and what made you kind of start changing. 00:38:04 Speaker 12: Yeah, so you know, after college, I kind of became significantly more left leaning. And it started in college and then kind of quickly escalated from there. You know, I was single, I was working, you know, it was in an apartment by myself. I was doing like the online dating thing, and you know, you start, you know, I was reading the New York Times, you know, CNN, and you kind of get all of your news, and everyone at work is the same way too, you know that you're all kind of bantering and talking, and you just start to see yourself moved slowly to the left as everyone. 00:38:39 Speaker 3: You didn't grow up, you didn't grow up necessarily, no, no, no. 00:38:42 Speaker 12: But no, no, definitely not political. My parents were pretty right leaning growing up, and I kind of had like a backlash. The same thing with Christianity too, Like I grew up going to church with my parents and then kind of after college. 00:38:56 Speaker 3: Just it just drifted away, drifted away. 00:38:58 Speaker 12: Yeah, so so. 00:38:59 Speaker 3: What was the turning point then? 00:39:02 Speaker 12: Yeah? So so for you know, my wife and I were in western North Carolina during Helene, and you know, we we lost power for a couple of weeks, but we saw so much devastation during that time. And I wasn't really on Twitter at all up until Helene, and we watched as FEMA just constantly failed over and over and over and it was. It was so appalling during that time period because you would you would see uh, FEMA failures all over the place, and the news would just be glowing reviews of how awesome FEMA was doing and how horrific you know, Helene was. But then you just like walk down the street or what I did, walk down the street and see people living in tents. Uh, you know, almost months after Helene, and you're like, things are not going okay. 00:39:56 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm blake. 00:39:58 Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember, but like that was terrible to see the wreckage from that hurricane basically Ashville. 00:40:06 Speaker 2: Aren't you based in that area? 00:40:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the the town was unrecognizable that oh hurricane completely wiped that town. 00:40:15 Speaker 12: Yeah, way, anything by the river was completely demo. 00:40:18 Speaker 4: Seventy nine billion dollars of damage. 00:40:20 Speaker 3: That's I mean, people need to remember just how large of a catastrophe Helene was. 00:40:25 Speaker 12: Yeah, people were quick to forget that. It's we're still without. 00:40:27 Speaker 3: So I mean, like I'll be just perfectly honest, like I haven't thought about it recently. I mean there's been a couple of people that have brought it up here and there, but I mean we have some of these b roll images, and I don't think these are the worst. 00:40:40 Speaker 2: There was whole swaths of town that. 00:40:41 Speaker 12: Was just yeah mud, oh yeah. And that's that's one of the reasons I started putting it out. I had a drone and the like people ask me like, how did you get big on Twitter? I was the guy with the drone that was putting out just the images from Helene, like that was it. And so I throw my drone up and you would just see devastation as far as you could see. And it was awful. I mean, the river just took out everything along it. It was so terrible. But the cleanup after that and the helping of people from FEMA was so slow. It took so long, and we would we eventually started talking to people like Sean Hendricks, who's a good buddy of mine now who did Helene cleanup, and we would talk to him and you'd be like, yeah, there are people living intents today, and you're like today, no, no, no no. But you know months afterwards and you're like, how is this possible? And you drive around with them and sure enough there are people living in tents and we were like, we have to get involved. So we started getting involved, and I remember this, you know, we started talking with Sean. His name is Sean Hendrix. You can find him on X. Started talking with Sean, just having these moments. We were like, you know, the government is not We would talk to these victims and they'd be like, we applied to FEMA, heard nothing. And then you would see a nonprofit like Glennbeck's Mercury One step in and they just build them a new home, like I don't know, and FEMA is nowhere to be found. And we were like, I mean, we have to, we have to, you know, get involved. So my wife and I started driving r vs to people. People just donate r vs out of nowhere and be like, hey, here's an RV, we're not using it, please give this to someone that needs it. And so we get them in, we clean them, and then Sean or someone else would would drive the r V and I vividly remember this one time we were driving an RV to a woman and her son, and I drove the r V up to their house and they were living in a shed with a propane here and I remember walking into the shed and my head hurt so bad from the propane. I was like, how the hell, can anyone live in this? And uh, this was months after Puline and I was like this, this is crazy. And on that drive, I opened my phone and I saw, yeah, that's it, that's lake Lord, which hyeah an incredible spot. I opened my phone and I saw that Joe Biden had given billions of dollars to Ukraine. And I was sitting there driving an RV to someone like an American that needed it, and I was like, this is insane, Like this is absolutely nuts. And then I started, you know, just putting out the stories. It was a story after story after story of people applying to FEMA getting rejected, never hurt, hearing back. And there are the worst stories you've ever seen in your life. And the only people that stepped up were the nonprofits and just everyday American citizens. And it was wild and. 00:43:42 Speaker 3: That meanwhile, we're giving away billions of dollars to Ukraine and after we were we were funding all these nonprofits to help illegals get in the country and gain the system. 00:43:52 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:43:52 Speaker 3: Pretty radicalizing, yeah, actually, And you know it's important that we tell those stories because we need to remember how we got out here and what actually put President Trump in office. 00:44:03 Speaker 2: I think so you became a Christian too. 00:44:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, so so of course i'd ask you the hardest question. 00:44:11 Speaker 12: Yeah, my my wife and I started going back to church is very tangentially related to seeing all of the nonprofits step up when when the government failed, and almost all of the nonprofits, almost all of them were Christian nonprofits. And we realized later on that our kids did not have like a community group, they didn't have any moral teaching outside of my wife and I and my wife grew up going to church as well, but we both we had never gone to church together ever in the six years that we've been together, and we're like, we we have to go back to church for you know, for our kids and for the community that that you know, it builds, and so so we ended up doing that and it's been awesome. Like my my daughter works in the nursery my wife and I just met. Yeah, she's awesome. 00:45:01 Speaker 3: You've got a beautiful family man. 00:45:03 Speaker 12: And yeah, it's it's been really great. I highly recommend it, even if you are not a Christian. The community and the morals you get from church is amazing. 00:45:14 Speaker 3: So a lot has been made in Iran. They were for decades on the precipice of getting a nuclear weapon my entire lifetime. Yes, so help us. Yeah, separate fact from fiction. So we're hearing that, you know, we bomb for though then they were told they could make a dirty bomb. 00:45:35 Speaker 2: Explain enrichment to us. How fast does it go? What does it take? 00:45:38 Speaker 3: Could you do it in kind of like these crappy backroom labs or whatever? 00:45:42 Speaker 7: What is it? 00:45:43 Speaker 12: Probably not so the way. So there's a couple of ways excuse me to do enrichment. The one that we did in the forties is not what's being done now, so you could you could do it. You're essentially trying to separate uranium two thirty eight from uranium to thirty five. And if you can get uranium two thirty five up to ninety percent enrichment, then you have a bomb. And the reason for that is it's essentially a domino effect. So if you're if you're making you know, you wanted to make let's just say nuclear energy, you would only enrich uranium at most five percent like that that would be the max. If you're if you're anything above five percent, you're clearly trying to do something nefarious. Like yeah, there's no reason because over what percent? Over five percent? 00:46:26 Speaker 2: No kidding that low? 00:46:27 Speaker 12: Oh yeah, So if you're. 00:46:29 Speaker 3: Carrying like sixty percent, that's insane. 00:46:31 Speaker 12: There's no there's no nuclear reactor on the planet that uses sixty any. 00:46:34 Speaker 3: Kind of Right then when they go into the room, apparently it was Kushner and wit Cough, they go into the room with their negotiating counterparts from Iran and they're like, we have sixty percent enriched, and we have enough to make eleven bombs of nuclear material, right sure, uranium essentially. So right then it's kind of like this whole narrative that. 00:46:56 Speaker 12: They you're clearly making a nuke. 00:46:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't. 00:46:58 Speaker 3: We just want to be able to pass our country with nuclear energy supple. 00:47:02 Speaker 4: We just offered them all the nuclear fuel they could ever want. 00:47:06 Speaker 3: But that's a five percent one hundred percent. So how long does it take to go from five percent to sixty percent? 00:47:12 Speaker 12: So it works on like a to go from zero to let's just say zero percent regiment of five percent verishment takes almost as long it depends as going from let's just say like sixty to ninety percent. So there's a very long lag time at the beginning. And so that that process could take you ten years to go from zero to five No, to go from zero to ninety percent. But if you were all about how much infrastructure you have, it's all about how many centrifuges you have. So if you know, in the forties, we determined that it would take like ten thousand centrifuges to get us to a nuclear bomb to back in the forties, and so we didn't do it that way. But Iran's doing it with centrifuges because they're pretending that, you know, they want it for you know, nuclear energy, which they're not. Like again, like if you have anything over ten percent, you're going for something. 00:48:03 Speaker 3: Okay, So you're as a nuclear scientist, you you're hearing and looking at these these stats, these figures that are being reported, and you're instantly calling garbage on nuclear energy. You know they're going for a nuclear weapon. 00:48:17 Speaker 12: Yeah, of course. 00:48:18 Speaker 3: Okay, So how did we do it in the forties if we didn't do it with centrifuges. 00:48:21 Speaker 12: Oh that's a good question. 00:48:23 Speaker 2: Is it too long of a question? 00:48:24 Speaker 4: It's you know, I don't want to bogg us down republic information. 00:48:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still secret, I think. 00:48:29 Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's public is pretty sure. No, I think you can. I think you can crock it. But but essentially the way we would do it was we forced Again, you're trying to separate two thirty five from two thirty eight, and so you would essentially force it through smaller holes, like to their different sized elements, So you would you'd force it through tinier holes. And then we use these monster magnets. And the way that two thirty five and two thirty eight bent, you could you could separate out a lot easier than that. But if you are trying to pretend like you were not making a nuclear bomb, you. 00:49:08 Speaker 2: Would do it. You would do it with. 00:49:10 Speaker 12: Interfewe That's how you do it in the energy world. 00:49:13 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, So so okay, dirty bomb? What is a dirty bomb? How do you make it? And so because that that that's another whole storyline in this. 00:49:26 Speaker 12: So, so you could theoretically make a dirty bomb by saying, let's just say you have sixty percent enriched uranium. The reason you want to enrich it to ninety percent is to make the bomb as small as possible so you could put it on a rocket. Otherwise you have this gigantic bomb that you couldn't even put on a plane, right, So the idea is to get you know, get it as small as possible, and then the explosions much bigger. It's like a giant domino effective at ninety percent enrichment versus that five percent enrichment, you're looking at like a slow meltdown, which is why it's perfect for energy, because you know, you just have this sustained energy over time versus It's like gasoline versus diesel. If you've ever like lit one versus the other, it's the same idea. Uh So you want to you get it to ninety percent rich you get on like a very small, like bowling ball size. You could put it in a rocket and hit someone. Otherwise you're just like, how would you transport something that big? So sixty percent rich uranium, you you could definitely make a bomb, nobodys saying, but you couldn't send it anywhere, you couldn't fly it. 00:50:25 Speaker 4: Okay, so a dirty bomb, yes, And how how devastating is that likely to be? 00:50:31 Speaker 12: I mean it's sixty percent. I mean it's still pretty devastating. I mean it would be, it'd be worse, so you know conventional Well, yeah, for sure. 00:50:39 Speaker 3: Well, and there's all the follow from that, right. 00:50:41 Speaker 12: Oh yeah, it's terrible. 00:50:43 Speaker 3: But yeah, so a dirty bomb would be so what what's ideal enrichment for an actual nuclear. 00:50:48 Speaker 12: Weapon or above? 00:50:50 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so a dirty bomb would be less than that? Yes, okay, yeah, so in theory, say foidaugh, we bombed Florida. Yeah, they scurry in there and they get sixty percent enriched or seventy percent enriched uranium and they fired off kind of as is is the end. 00:51:05 Speaker 12: Well, you could not be very unlikely you could fire off sixty percent enriched uranium. Okay, that would be it would be really tough to do that and have a Yeah, that'd be tough. But what they could be doing is if you're at sixty percent enriched uranium, Like I said, like, there's a very long lead time for getting uranium up to the point where you could make a bomb. So if they've already gotten it up to sixty percent, I think this is what I keep hearing from the administration. You're pretty close, you know. So if they've just got centrifuges somewhere that we don't know about and they're spin and d percent is possible? 00:51:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting and yeah. I mean so John Solomon, remember that on the Saturday stream we did after this initial strike, he said that you wouldn't even have to get it out of four to doh. You could get it off of potentially the black market or there's. 00:51:58 Speaker 12: Other if someone handed them really like high. So anything above let's just say ten percent is highly enriched uranium. Low enriched uranium is used for nuclear reactors, then yeah, you're on your way for sure. 00:52:11 Speaker 3: So, I mean, the more you know, like, okay, so you're being an you're an educated person in this field. This is what you you know, this was your career. When you're hearing about this, you're instantly going, yeah, that makes sense. They could, They could hurt a lot of people real quickly. Like this is you got to take this extraordinarily serious for sure. And I don't think I think a lot of the skeptics don't understand just how close we were basically existing all the time with Iran's nuclear program. 00:52:43 Speaker 2: I mean, we were close all the time. 00:52:44 Speaker 3: I mean maybe that's why it feels like, well we've always been so close, well, because they have been close. 00:52:50 Speaker 12: To having a NU Yeah, it's very possible, you know that. It just it just took them this long to get to sixty percent, and it'd be nice to hear more from the administration about like how close they were in evidence about that. 00:53:03 Speaker 3: Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about y Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments, maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Why ref I will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America and we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much they owe. Why ref I can help. Just go to y refi dot com. 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And then going from five to yeah, you can say, just accelerate. 00:54:32 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:54:33 Speaker 4: So just as you can see if it's you know, you need about thirteen hundred total units of it looks like they're measuring energy or effort somehow, and you're at twelve hundred by the time you get to forty percent. So the last fifty percent is less than ten percent of the total effort. 00:54:48 Speaker 3: This is correct, Okay, effort sw swu okay. Interesting. So basically, when you talk about a richment enrichment and they say that it's sixty percent enriched based on this graph, getting from sixty to ninety happens way faster than going from zero five. 00:55:03 Speaker 12: Yeah, and I think when when they bombed Forteo, they said that they were somewhere around like sixty sixty percent and rich uranium, which if if you were to just take Iran at their at their word, the amount of centrifugees that they have, that that could actually be one week, like maybe it depends. So when they say they set them back, they probably really did set them back pretty far. But if they still kept sixty percent enriched uranium around and hit it you know, god knows where, and they have other centrifugees we don't know about, then yeah, that would that would actually be a big problem. 00:55:36 Speaker 3: So so listen, this is where you go into the UH. You gotta trust the people that we helped get elected to kind of make decisions, tough decisions that could be difficult politically. But man, you can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon. President Trump has been very adamant about that, consistent about that. I want to pivot a little bit here, though, Matt, because you know, one of the things, if you follow Matt online, you live in a state that had a terrible, gruesome murder. It was showcased at the State of the Union and of course we are talking about Arena Zerutzka. She was a Ukrainian war refugee that moved to North Carolina and was brutally killed in a video. I think that shocked the conscience of so many Americans. 00:56:23 Speaker 2: And that's your state. And what's interesting about that it strikes close to home. 00:56:27 Speaker 3: And Blake will remember this that you know, she died just before Charlie was killed. And Charlie was absolutely on top of this. He tweeted about it a lot because this was a story that never should have happened. She should still be alive today. And actually Erica sat next to Arena Zerutzka's parents at the State of the Union. I don't think she knew she was going to be next to them, so it was a really powerful moment. Yeah, I mean, you guys will remember these images. Just horrifying to see them. Our teams put them up. I just throw them up when you have them. But Matt, how did this story impact you? 00:57:02 Speaker 12: I mean, it's crazy, Like, my wife grew grew up in Charlotte, so she's ridden the light rail quite a few times. And I'd been kind of reporting on Charlotte crime at that point, because it was just I mean, if anyone wants to go report on Charlotte crime, it's a free for all. Like the media is not covering this whatsoever. It's not hard to find the stories. But this one was just so surprising in the sense that this guy Charlotte has an insane repeat offender problem. Yeah, and this is something I cover over and over on Twitter. But this guy had been in and out of prison so many times. His mom said, you know, my son needs to be locked up. He should not be out, and they let him out and constantly, and then he goes and says he's got voices in his head. And then murders Arena. 00:57:49 Speaker 4: And there's something deeply symbolic about this one. Put up six twenty eight and six twenty nine and then the last one if you can get it. So people have made murals around the country honoring her in big cities, and they keep getting vandalized. People keep spray painting them, trashing them, damaging them because and like, there's something very profoundly insightful about I think left wing psychology that they would feel the need to do that to trash murals of an innocent woman who was murdered by someone who should not have been on the street. And as we know, she has become a symbol. But a lot of people could be this symbol. There's a story that's been going on in Fairfax County, right outside DC, where there was a murder there where it was I believe abdul Jallo, a legal immigrant from Africa, let out after I think five different malicious woundings, keeps stabbing people. The police sent an email to the Fairfax Prosecutor's office saying, you guys, let this guy out again. He keeps randomly stabbing people. He's going to randomly stab someone again. And a week or two ago he stabbed to death a woman stuff and he mentor on a bus which the police had warned he was going to, and the prosecutor ignored it. We can endlessly find cases like this and look at. 00:59:12 Speaker 2: Throw up six twenty eight. 00:59:13 Speaker 3: This this bothers me a lot to see this. I haven't seen this before and it's an arena Zarutska Mural six twenty eight. If you have it, please vandalize this. This is a woman who did nothing wrong. She wasn't a public figure. She didn't voice her political opinions online. She didn't go to college campuses to debate college students, because lord knows, then you'll get your murals vandalized. She was just riding a bus and she got stabbed in the neck and she died, and people feel bad about that, And I like, that's radicalizing for so many, and I'm sure for you, Matt as A as a sort of newer conservative as well. 00:59:58 Speaker 2: Well. 00:59:59 Speaker 12: You You would just always expect, and almost everyone I talk to expects that violent criminals are in jail. Almost everyone you talk if you were to ask someone, is is someone who murdered someone in jail for murdering someone? Almost one hundred percent of people to say for sure, they're. 01:00:13 Speaker 3: It's almost as common sense as you would assume. Everybody has to show an ID to vote one of those ideas. 01:00:19 Speaker 12: Yes, one hundred percent. And the truth of the matter is, if you go and look at any of the major cities, they are letting violent criminals out at an insanely high rate, Like there's there is a juvenile in Charlotte that has been arrested one hundred and fifty times and he's still out, like he's still committing crimes like. 01:00:38 Speaker 3: Breaking fifty times. 01:00:39 Speaker 12: Yes, he's not even eighteen. Like, you know, it really is nuts, like the amount of times these people are getting arrested and being let out, and there's I mean, you can go to my Twitter and scroll. I mean, there's endless amounts of these stories. 01:00:52 Speaker 3: And you you you had a really interesting insight. You did some reporting independent journalism, right, it's kind of like part of your new role where you uncovered that they were classifying a bunch of non white criminals as white. What was the point of that and did you get confirmation that that you're reporting was accurate. 01:01:12 Speaker 12: It's definitely accurate. Now it depends on like which sheriff's office, and you know, a lot of different things. But in Charlotte, at least, there there is a like there's an option to click the word Hispanic if it's in a Hispanic person, there's an option to click the word white or black, and an insane amount of the time Hispanic people are classified as white in arrest reports. There was one so egregious that I remember this one very clearly. It was it's clearly a Hispanic male with you know, black hair, and in the arrest report it was a white male with blonde hair, and if you didn't have the photo of this person to be like, you know clearly, so like this bothers me greatly because the truth of crime stats matters, and people constantly post like the crime stats per race of individuals. And if my assumption is that if you were to go and look at the true crime stats based on actual, verified race data that is not biased, the white crime rate would be insanely low, like much much lower. Because these systems that are at the state level feed into the federal level. 01:02:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think? Why are they doing this just because more left wing ideology? 01:02:39 Speaker 2: They don't want to. 01:02:40 Speaker 12: It's possible, So I think there's possibly two reasons. One is maybe, and I've been told this by police officers that the white button is first on whatever system, So if they're trying to do it quickly, it's just, you know, we'll just leave it at that. In other places, the you know, hispanic is an ethnicity technically not race, but it depends on again, like the system that you're in. Sometimes there's not even an option for police officers to tap the word hispanic, so they'll just they'll just you know, you have no option. You just have to tap white. 01:03:12 Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking at one right here. It's Ahmad Jihad Bojia. 01:03:18 Speaker 12: Yeah. Race white, Yeah, clearly. 01:03:21 Speaker 2: Not okay, yeah. 01:03:23 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:03:24 Speaker 12: And there's so many of these examples, like you could just I mean, you could probably just search the word white on my my ex account and you would see. 01:03:33 Speaker 3: How this guy killed three elderly Americans. I remember this story because his name was Jihad. 01:03:37 Speaker 12: Yeah. 01:03:37 Speaker 3: He killed him in Florida and he was listed as white. 01:03:40 Speaker 12: Yeah. 01:03:41 Speaker 3: This is a guy with the name Jahad, Yeah, classified as white. 01:03:46 Speaker 12: Yeah. 01:03:46 Speaker 3: So is there any efforts at the federal level to fix this? 01:03:49 Speaker 12: There are, Yeah, I've gotten a phone call from someone out of the administration. I don't know whether I'm allowed to say who, but they are working on this. This is something that they're focused on. 01:03:58 Speaker 3: Because it feels like it would I mean that downstream ramifications are massive, but you're being lied to, and there is a whole racial agenda. You could you could say part of this might be inadvertent. There's gotta be part of this that is completely intentional. Yeah, look at all this, I mean, come on, Yeah, it doesn't pass the eye test or the smell test, whatever the common sense doest we have some breaking news, folks. I don't want to say that we did it, but maybe we did it. Secretary christ Well Christy nom is out as Secretary of DHS. Reports are that Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, we have it, will be replacing her. 01:04:41 Speaker 2: We have a statement from the President. 01:04:44 Speaker 3: Let's read it. 01:04:44 Speaker 2: Let's get it. I'll start reading it. 01:04:45 Speaker 4: I am pleased to announce that the highly respected United States Senator from the great state of Oklahoma, Mark Wayne Mullen, will become the United States DHS Secretary effective March thirty first, twenty twenty six. The current Secretary, Christy Noum, who has us well and has had numerous and spectacular results, especially on the border, will be removing to be Special Envy Envoy for the Shield of the America's our new security initiative in the Western Hemisphere. We are announcing on Saturday and Doral, Florida. I thank Christy for her service at Homeland and then he has a lot about how great Mark Wayne Mullen is and all of that. 01:05:22 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's breaking in. 01:05:24 Speaker 3: The Lanking news a matter of minutes, so we spent a lot of time an hour one talking about some of the controversies that have been swirling around DHS, stuff that we don't want to see because it's too critically important to the mission to re election to the coalition. I'm pleased to see that the president is taking decisive action. And Senator Mark Wayne Mullen is a friend of the show, very well respected, understands the base, but he also understands the let's just say, the intricacies of working with blue states, and understands working with senators from blue states. What these negotiations, these high wire acts really entail. We talk about crime in blue cities, the ideologies that run these blue cities. They don't want to enforce crime, so you've got an uphill battle. Then we make a lot of noise about the numbers that Barack Obama achieved when he was president about deportations. Well, guess what, almost eighty percent of those were transfers at the local prison level, at the local jail level. So that was before the sanctuary city madness really took root. And that was before all this TDS anti Trump sentiment, right, because this was before Trump. So they would just hand criminal, illegal aliens over at the off at the jail level. Why is that important? Way safer, takes way fewer agents to get those transfers accomplished, and you get them deported immediately. You get violent criminals instead of releasing them back into the streets, you get them out of your country. That's going to be goal number one for Senator Mark Wayne Mullen is to exert enough effort and force and coercion, if you have to, political pressure to get blue cities to cooperate. Now, the good news era is that Tom Homan has already given us a model for this. In Minneapolis. Minneapolis was spiraling out of control. President Trump sent Tom Homan into Minneapolis, got them to heal, and now they've He's got cooperation from ninety five percent of county jails local jails Minneapolis to hand over these detention requests. Uh, Blake, got to get you in here. How important is this? What what do we make? 01:07:38 Speaker 4: We're gonna have to see So he we still have a month before it goes in. That would be a pretty brisk confirmation schedule, I think. 01:07:46 Speaker 2: Uh, but he's in the Senate. I think that would help speed things along. 01:07:49 Speaker 4: Lose the senator, We lose the senator. But it's Oklahoma. That is a race we're highly unlikely to lose. Well, no black pilling. Wait, you're telling me, And so I think I think. I mean, we've had Mark Wayne on the show. I think he's got a good head on his shoulders about this. 01:08:06 Speaker 2: Sort of thing. 01:08:07 Speaker 3: Yea. 01:08:07 Speaker 4: It shows they recognize the fact that he has someone ready to go right away. It shows he recognizes the importance of keeping the heat on because he knows this matters. He knows he needs really aggressive enforcement on border stuff and he needs to keep delivering wins on that because a lot of people voted for that and that is a signature. 01:08:25 Speaker 2: Issue for him. 01:08:26 Speaker 3: Well, and yeah, I think, as. 01:08:29 Speaker 4: We discussed in the first hour this happened, you're going to have controversy with ice. People are going to get mad about a bad photograph. They're going to get mad about some bad confrontation with a protester. They're going to get mad about some arrest that gets made. That is inevitable. There's the sheer scale of the problem means that's going to happen. And so you can't have avoidable stuff. We should not be debating ad buys at DHS. We should not be debate debating try to jet that they're buying at keep it on what needs to be happening, securing the border, getting the wall up, getting the illegals out, getting the arrests made. 01:09:08 Speaker 2: That is where the focus needs to be. 01:09:10 Speaker 4: I have sources at DHS that I've spoken with, and I think, on balance, they are in favor of a change being made, and I think I trust them that they have the interests of the Department and the interests of the country at heart when they say that. 01:09:26 Speaker 3: And I too have sources in this world, and you know this, let's hope that this is a good thing. And we got to wait and see, you know, we got to see what Senator Mark waynemulland does it sounds like the future secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. But I'm curious your perspective here, Matt, as somebody that is newer in this space. You know, your your perspective is probably more on the FEMA angle, But what do you make of something like this? 01:09:55 Speaker 12: Well, you know, I don't have any sources in the administration, but but I do think that people, especially on the right me too, have been frustrated with the slower pace of deportations, Like it's it's the number one issue of anyone you talk to is, you know, why why are we not deporting more? You know, why are we not rest arresting employers? Why why are we not targeting people who speak Spanish with ads to self deport right, like very common sense stuff, you know, but to start start finding employers that hire illegal aliens, Like I feel like there's there's a lot of things on the table that could be used to ramp up deportations that have not yet been used, and that this is exactly what the base of what's what I want to see, Like there was a criminal illegal alien who you know, raped a fourteen year old girl right across from my kids school, like that was that was last week. 01:10:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, Now I want to say something up because we are losing secretary. I want to say positively about her. She is a woman who didn't shy away from those controversial aspects of ICE that we mentioned that they were going into cities, they were making arrests aggressively even where people were complaining about it. And we have to make sure Senator Mark Waynemullen when he takes that job, we're gonna keep the heat on him. He can't back off on things he can't send any signs of weakness. He has to be ready to trample over blue states, trample over blue cities, lay down the law. 01:11:21 Speaker 2: That is what the base wants, and the. 01:11:24 Speaker 4: Left is going to look for weakness here. 01:11:28 Speaker 3: If we want to keep the coalition together and we've got all of these forces arrayed against us, you've gotta go hard on deportations. You've got to be absolutely firm in your resolve. Now, my advice to the Senator future secretary sounds like is do not cower, do not give an inch, but go behind the headlines, go get underneath. 01:11:50 Speaker 2: Do not look. 01:11:52 Speaker 3: To to be the face. Just be quiet, make it happen, and at the end of the year, post a huge number, blow people away, make these blue cities. 01:12:04 Speaker 2: Heal. 01:12:05 Speaker 3: We need you to cooperate, frankly, and I think Senator Mark Wayne Willan is a guy that can get blue cities to cooperate one way or the other. Matt, we weren't expecting this to be our final segment, but it candidly, it's a full circle show. So what can we say? A lot happened today, Matt Vance while check him out on X follow him a really important new voice and I think you're gonna continue growing and doing great things. 01:12:29 Speaker 12: Thank you for having me on. 01:12:30 Speaker 3: Thank you been an honor. 01:12:35 Speaker 12: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charlie Kirk dot com