Holding America Hostage For Foreign Criminals

00:00:03 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start at turning point you would say, college chapter. 00:00:33 Speaker 2: Go start atturning point. Yould say high school chapter. 00:00:35 Speaker 1: Go find out how your church can get involved. 00:00:37 Speaker 3: Sign up and become an activist. 00:00:39 Speaker 1: I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. 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I want to address something that emerged over the weekend, and really it's kind of been a storyline, I guess for the last week or so after the resignation of Joe Kent. We had touched on it a couple of times last week. Obviously it's it's consumed a lot of media. President Trump's being asked about it and whatnot. The central claim, though, that I want to get to, is was Joe Kent leaking certain information and over the weekend a clip came up and it's gone a little bit viral. 00:02:12 Speaker 3: I want to address it. Let's go ahead and play it. Cut sixteen. 00:02:15 Speaker 6: The way that those screenshots got to Candace is via Joe Kent Andrew Colvit. Andrew was in the chat group as well. 00:02:26 Speaker 5: He was one of the nine people. 00:02:27 Speaker 6: In the group, and he admitted at first be perfectly honest. At first he was denying it. We didn't know how Candace got them. But then he admitted on the air on his show that he had given these text messages and he gave them to He said that on the show that he gave them to someone in the government. 00:02:45 Speaker 5: He told us that that he gave them to someone in the government. 00:02:48 Speaker 6: Joe Kent was someone that we knew that there was a relationship there between Charlie and Andrew and Joe. We knew that when Charlie would visit Washington, DC, he would talk to Joe. We kind of verified that the messages had been given by Andrew to Joe Kent and that Joe Kent had been the one to pass them on to Candace. 00:03:08 Speaker 4: All Right, so verified. It's doing a lot of heavy lifting there. I do want to confirm what I can confirm, and that is that, yes, in the immediate aftermath, I did provide the group chat to Joe Kent. We don't throw around accusations recklessly here, We don't. There's a lot of people that. 00:03:26 Speaker 3: Do that online. We don't do that. 00:03:29 Speaker 4: We think that's keeping in the spirit of Charlie's spirit, and the way we choose to do things is we try and be responsible. So yes, in a spirit of looking at every lead, turning over every stone, we wanted everybody that needed to know to know anything that we knew not to I mean, and by the way, we've been accused of not being interested in the truth. 00:03:49 Speaker 5: And just to remind people what this is referring to, this is after Charlie's murder, there were text messages that from a private group chat yep that were public and we're used to frankly kick off the big conspiracy theory that we've run into over and over again, which is that Israel or the Jews had Charlie murdered. Yes, so, which we do not believe. 00:04:16 Speaker 4: Which we do not believe, but we have been accused of trying to or we're not interested in the truth. The actual fact of the matter is that behind the scenes, we have given everything we know to give every single piece of information. This was one of them. I was told I could trust Joe Kent. I provided the screen grabs to Joe Kent, and I don't know what happened to them at that point, Okay that I just want to make that very clear. Eventually, Joe did message me and suggest that I make those screen grabs public. I declined because those were shared privately. I didn't want to be reckless with them in the public. There could be innocent people on that group chat that would then be harmed. So I declined. But then fast forward another week or two and they were made public. So that's what I know, is that Joe suggested that they be made public. I declined. Then they were made public. Can I categorically say that he leaked them, No, But those are the facts. Maybe somebody on his team, maybe they got passed around, maybe somebody else leaked them. But that's those are the facts of the matter. And that's what I know. 00:05:25 Speaker 5: Yeah, And the reason we're bringing this up obviously, with his departure from the administration, there's a lot of debate over what it means. People have been arguing, was he a leaker people some people have suggested he might be a criminal, he should be indicted. We're not saying that, but this has come up, and. 00:05:42 Speaker 4: Well, and my name's getting tossed around with this as if I did something untoward. No, I don't regret any of it. I regret that they were leaked. I was told that I could trust him. I told that it was it was private and it would be guarded, just to look into any possible leads. And by the way, we did that with a bunch of different things because we want the truth to come out, so we're not blocking anything. We don't even care if the answer is something that is. 00:06:06 Speaker 3: Really, really terrible. 00:06:07 Speaker 4: Okay, we want the truth, we want justice, and we believe that Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk. We believe that they got their guy. We have additional questions, but guess what, it was an egregious breach. Who ever shared that screen grab publicly? It was an egregious breach, and obviously we're not happy about it, but can't put it back together again, can't put the pace back in the tube, as they say, And so again I just want to be very clear, I don't know who ultimately shared that publicly, but what the facts are. Joe Kent was one of the people that had it, very very very small group of people, maybe one of his team members, whatever, but he did suggest that it was shared publicly. We declined because Charlie had every opportunity to say publicly what he believed. He did not say that publicly, and so far be it from me to put words in his mouth. Okay, that was thing that was private, So we wanted to keep it private. And I think that's being in keeping with being a good friend, Okay, is preserving somebody's trust in their privacy. So now everybody knows, yes, Joe Kent had it. Yes he did suggest leaking. It can't prove that he was the one, but those are the facts. Because there's been a lot of noise made about this in the past, whether you know or in the in the recent week, about allegations of leaking and things like that. I got nothing. I don't know anything other than that piece of the of the puzzle. Okay, that's all I know. And I'm not going to recklessly tarnish somebody's reputation if I don't have all the facts. But now that my name's being brought up into it, I wanted to address it fair enough. 00:07:41 Speaker 5: Fair enough, all right. Now, we prefer to keep our front towards the enemy, which is as always the Left. They're up to a very large number of bad things in this country at all times. 00:07:53 Speaker 3: Yes, they are. 00:07:55 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, so the rest of the show, we do have Senator burniemer We're going to talk about DHS funding TSA lines of the airport. Also the Democrats refusal to have their pay docked or delayed while two hundred and sixty thousand families aren't getting their paychecks. But also we are going to get into recent comments made by President Trump about a potential ceasefire. Now, President Trump has come out and said that he's been talking with the main guy who's not Kamanie. 00:08:26 Speaker 3: We don't know. 00:08:27 Speaker 4: He hasn't said who this person is, but he's talking to somebody in a round. I don't know that anybody really knows who's in charge and iron so where's He says that we have a five day ceasefire, but not a total ceasefire. It's a ceasefire against infrastructure. So that would be like energy oil that you're laughing, Blake. 00:08:44 Speaker 5: I'm laughing because it's it's five days. You know, it means it'll get him to the next weekend. 00:08:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, you know, there's. 00:08:53 Speaker 5: This real thing. He'd like to do anything anything that could like make the markets do that on the weekend you can then push your ceasefire options Monday following Monday. Yeah, it's a certain dynamic that's very interesting to Listen. 00:09:04 Speaker 4: The Dow future shot up twelve hundred points as soon as he said that there was a five day seas fire on infrastructure. I mean, listen, if it works, it works. If it works, it works. Obviously, we're all hoping that this conflict gets wrapped up immediately as soon as humanly possible, and so listen, if it leads to that, I'm all for it. 00:09:24 Speaker 3: We want this thing over with Blake. 00:09:26 Speaker 4: President Trump gave a press conference, kind of a gaggle if you will, wasn't really a press conference, as he was in transit, and the topic of Iran was front and center. 00:09:35 Speaker 3: So we're gonna lead their cup five. 00:09:37 Speaker 7: Ron's Foreign Ministry says, you're not telling the truth when it comes to productive conversation stand the world. 00:09:42 Speaker 8: They're gonna have to get themselves better public relations. 00:09:44 Speaker 2: Straight forward. 00:09:46 Speaker 8: We have that very very strong talk. So we'll see where they lead. We have points of major points of agreement. I would say almost all points of agreement. Perhaps that hasn't been conveyed communication and as you know has been blown to pieces. They were unable to talk to each other. So we've had very strong talks. Mister Witchgoff and mister Kushner had them. They went I would say perfectly. I would say that if they carry through with that, it'll end that problem, that conflict, and I think it'll end it very, very substantially. 00:10:23 Speaker 5: It's very funny to me because you realize we have both combatants in this conflict have messaging strategies that do make it difficult to tell what's going on. Because Trump he's always ready to make a deal, but as part of his deal making, he's always presenting maximum toughness. So he's doing this, oh, we're negotiating. Also, I'm ready to blow up everything in Iran tomorrow if they don't give me what I want. And then on the flip side, we know that Iran is a regime full of zealots and radicals, so they've always had to present maximum hostility when we know that they're actually more commodating. Remember last summer, they're all like, tomorrow is a that will be remembered for a thousand years, and then they shoot a bottle rocket that blows up in the desert. Because they don't want to aggravate us anymore, and so that could easily be happening here where they are negotiating, but they have to deny it. 00:11:12 Speaker 4: Well, so here he he alludes to this basically his negotiating tactics. We're going to blow up all your infrastructure. Markets don't like that. Of course Iron doesn't like that. Uh, And this is what he believes, at least what he says out loud, led to this five day pause on any infrastructure hits ten. 00:11:32 Speaker 8: Tomorrow morning, sometime their time. We were expected to blow up their largest electric generating plants that costs over ten billion dollars to build. So very good one there was no dirt of money and one shot it's gone. 00:11:52 Speaker 2: It collapses. Why would they want that? 00:11:56 Speaker 8: So they called, I didn't call. 00:11:58 Speaker 3: They called. 00:11:59 Speaker 8: They want to make good deal, and we are very willing to make a deal. It's got to be a good deal, and it's got to be no more wars, no more nuclear weapons. They're not gonna have nuclear weapons anymore. They're agreeing to that. Any of that stuff. 00:12:12 Speaker 2: There's no deal. 00:12:14 Speaker 4: So he gets pressed on the nuclear portion of this top fifteen. 00:12:19 Speaker 9: No, you said, there's many points of agreement with Iran right now, what. 00:12:23 Speaker 3: Can you give us? 00:12:24 Speaker 8: The man like fifteen points? 00:12:26 Speaker 2: Fifteen points? Yes, well, they're not gonna have a nuclear weapon. 00:12:30 Speaker 3: That's number one. 00:12:31 Speaker 8: That's number one, two and three they will never have a nuclear weapon. 00:12:34 Speaker 5: Yes, they've agreed to that. So I'm picturing him having a list of fifteen and one, two and three are all just in Iran will never have a nuclear weapon, like in a formal treaty. 00:12:43 Speaker 4: And I bet you're right. So I do want to just put a note of caution here. So I was talking with a bunch of folks that are pretty well versed in what's going on in Iran right now. There was a strike by Iranian missiles near a nuclear reactor in Israel. The thought was that this is a warning shot because listen, even if you get rid of the nukes in Iran and they create a nuclear fallout situation in Israel, that's bad, and it's an escalation that nobody wants, or at least any sane person doesn't want. So that's one thing you have to be just cautious of that this thing can. This is why we've always warned about regime changed. Is why we've always been circumspect when it comes to foreign interventions in general, but especially in Iran, because this thing can get out of hand very very very quickly, and we pray that doesn't happen. But that's that's something we need to keep an eye on. Is that that missile got through the Iron Dome landed next to a nuclear site in Israel. Secondly, there are some indications and reason to believe that this could be true. Is that in the early days of this conflict, Iran shot off a bunch of its nineteen nineties like it's old stock, and we were shooting off two to four million dollar missiles to go intercept those. And the thought is that they might have missiles now that are the good ones, the more advanced weapons that we're not. We've burnt through a lot of our defensive supply, those really expensive Patriot missiles. So the question is is if that's true. That's obviously concerning that if they have very advanced missiles waiting to deploy once we've burned through our defensive stock, then that that would be problematic. So this thing is by no means in the clear, but I would say any note, any hint, any indication of an actual legitimate ceasefire is really good. Now I don't think this is a full cease fire. He's saying, we're not going to hit your your infrastructure, We're not gonna hit your energy infrastructure. But those are two things I wanted to caution the audience on. They could hit Israel's nuclear site. That would be very bad, very very bad. And two, if it is true that they have advanced weaponry in missiles waiting to deploy when they think that we've depleted our stock, then that would also be very bad. 00:15:10 Speaker 3: I don't know if you haven't. 00:15:10 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just you know, big picture. I know we've talked about how this war, we think it could have been sold a little better in advance and since it's out broken out, but there are things that have happened that have you know, really laid out what the reasoning was that went into this. One of them was over the weekend they shot a missile at Diego Garcia Island, that small island in the Indian Ocean that is farther away. We thought it was far away enough that Iran could not hit it, and supposedly they had a cap on how far their missiles would go. That fell short of that island. Suddenly they shot a missile that apparently would have hit the island if we didn't shoot it down. And so we know apparently Iran has weapons that were not public to the world, maybe not even public to us, and they're suddenly deploying them. That's certainly an argument in favor of US taking action. 00:15:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I think anybody who tells you Iran was not a threat, I just you've got to understand that that's probably not true. Okay, Iran has been a threat. Basically every country in the world knows that Iran was a threat. But this thing can still spiral out of control, and we need to pray that it doesn't. 00:16:15 Speaker 3: Pray for a cease fire. 00:16:19 Speaker 4: You know, we spend a lot of time on this show talking about culture, about why strong families matter, why values matter, why faith matters. But here's something practical. If you actually want to build a strong family someday, you have to start by meeting someone who shares those same values and convictions. And in today's culture, that's not always easy. A lot of apps are built around casual connections, instant gratification, no long term vision, and that's just not what many of you are looking for You want something better. 00:16:48 Speaker 3: That's why I like Upward. 00:16:50 Speaker 4: Upward is a dating app designed around faith and shared values people who care about commitment, integrity, marriage and family. 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Do ye out your boss? Nope? I did everything right? 00:18:00 Speaker 7: Then work for the Department of Homeland Security. 00:18:03 Speaker 4: That, of course, is Senator Bernie Moreno from the great state of Ohio. He's joining us now. Senator, welcome back to the show. You were at the very center of the floor fight in the Senate over DHS funding, trying to get that agency refunded. Obviously, we're seeing pain across the country at these TSA lines. Tell us about your experience this weekend in the Senate. 00:18:30 Speaker 2: Well, we obviously were exposing the hypocrisy of the Democrats because what we've discovered through the negotiation process is what they ultimately really want is no more deportations. You know, they're very proud of the fact that they let millions of people into this country legally over the Biden years, and they don't want to see us remove them. And this includes criminal aliens, murderers, rapists. You see the death of Americans as a result of these lunatics. And so what we also did is said, hey, since we're not paying two hundred and sixty thousand in Homeland Security employees, we should withhold our own paychecks. Right by the way, I think we should dock our pay but I said withhold that then when it opens we get the money back. The Democrats blocked it, didn't engage in debate. They literally, you can't even make this up, said I object, and ran out of the room and didn't come back. 00:19:22 Speaker 5: That's unbelievable. And I guess the rational answer is what's next is so dark to me because it does. It does appear that they've just made the calculation, we can damage America as much as we want, and Trump will give in on letting us damage America as much as we want. It's very sickening. 00:19:41 Speaker 2: It is beyond sickening. I mean, think about this. Two hundred and sixty thousand American families are without a paycheck right now because of the actions of deprave politicians. And they have no problem the fact fact that they're getting paid one hundred and seventy five grand a year and guaranteed money. They're not willing to even hold their paycheck. They don't even want to be there. Over the weekend, nine Democrats left town and went to a posh fundraiser in California. I mean, you can't even make this stuff up. They didn't even bother to show up for work, and yet two hundred and sixty thousand Americans who are showing up for work, aren't getting paid for their own actions. And by the way, these are not people who set policy. These aren't the people who decided, hey, we should do AB or C. You know who those people are, ironically the people in that chamber. We made it a crime to enter this country illegally. We made it a crime to overstay your visa. We actually created an agency that said, hey, if people have to be deported, it's up to you. You go get this criminal alien and deport them. And they're not paying those very people. I mean, this is probably the worst darkest moment in the sentence since I've been there in the last fifteen months. It is truly despicable. 00:20:48 Speaker 4: You know, you think about it, Senator, it was easier to get through Joe Biden's border than it is to get through a TSA line. 00:20:55 Speaker 3: Now. 00:20:55 Speaker 4: So Democrats, the way that they do immigration, it's basically let everybody in at the border. Zero wait times there, three hours wait time at a domestic airport. It's really that sickening. And then you guys try and say, hey, let's let's pause our pay, let's dock our pill let's but well, let's not dock it let's just pause it. And they object to that motion, walk out of the room. They won't even stand up and have a debate. Total cowards. I think this is a really despicable moment. Now, President Trump has said that he's sending ICE agents to the airports to alleviate some of this congestion. Right now, we've seen images of some of these ICE agents already arriving. Listen, I love our ICE agents, but this does seem like less than ideal. What's the reaction on Capitol Hill to this move from the President. 00:21:45 Speaker 2: Well, there's concerned that the ICE agents aren't out there enforcing immigration laws. And look, we just have to get this thing fun. And let me just point out one piece that's been missing, and it shows you the difference between Republicans and Democrats, and quite frankly, we need to fix. During the years, they let tens of millions of people cross our border with no vetting. In fact, the opposite of the vetting. We just said, welcome, here's free close, here's a free airline ticket, here's a free phone, here's a free hotel room. It was like, basically, these people hit the lottery, right. Republicans did not object to funding Border Patrol went objectively under any measure. Border Patrol wasn't doing their job because their bosses were telling him to basically ignore immigration law. And here we are, flash forward. Border Patrol's doing an amazing job. They're not letting a single solitary legal come in this country. ICE is deporting the worst of the worst side of this country. And where's the Democrats response to not pay them their paychecks? It's pretty up. 00:22:46 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:22:46 Speaker 4: So President Trump put out a truth basically saying he's loath to make a deal any concessions with Democrats, but he's willing to give them this five billion dollar cut off of ICE funding if they'll pass the Save America Act. I think we all know that they're not going to take this. But has there been any movement? Is there any signs that this impasse is going to be corrected. 00:23:09 Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to do everything in my personal individual power to get DHS funded, get these people's paychecks done. So I'm obviously going to spend the rest of the day to day, the rest of the week, if it means not being at home for the Eastern recess. I'm absolutely going to object to us a journey we should not leave Washington, DC until we fund DHS, whatever it takes. Look, the president's the greatest deal maker of all time. He made a brilliant move last summer by fully funding ice and border patrol through the entirety of his presidency. So I think the contours of a deal exist. We just need to get some rational Democrats to the table make a deal. Stop hurting Americans? How about that? How about if we just make that the guide post stop hurting working Americans who are doing their job. 00:23:58 Speaker 5: Are other piple schemes that could come into play if they're continues, if they continue to stone wall on this the one that comes to mind. Obviously they're banking on three four hour TSA lines making people revolt. But for example, it's very we actually know in fact, it's very difficult to bring any sort of bomb on an airplane outside of your suitcase. So could we just basically say you only need to scan twenty percent of people who are getting on the plane, or could the president order something like that or is that not a risk worth taking? 00:24:32 Speaker 2: It's not a risk worth taking out. It's much more than just TSA that's being funded. This is customs. They inspect packages, board Patrol, the agents that are truly putting their lives at risk. This is a cybersecurity agency, this is FEMA, this is Secret Service, this is our Nuclear Threat Assessment Agency, our Federal Law Enforcement Training Centers. I mean, you just go on and on and on holding investigations. By the way, these are the people that are chasing transnational gangs. So this is this is the department that was created after nine to eleven to keep the homeland safe. I just I just need your viewers to understand that we have put America a grave, grave risk over political games. This is what must end. And I'm calling on Democrats. Look, we can have policy disputes, but we're not gonna have policy disputes while putting the American people in danger. That's a gross negligence of duty. I'll go back to the pay issue. We should not get paid while this is going on. And by the way, the reason they ran out of the chamber is because they didn't want to see SPAN cameras to capture who was objecting. So they literally said I object and then ran out of the chamber like a little child because they didn't want to see SPAN cameras to capture the objector on film. It's pretty pretty bad. I mean, this is and if we had an honest media, by the way, there'd be a total cowardis. They'd have a reporters swarming that centator going why'd you do that? Like why would you object? Why would you get paid one hundred and seventy five and guaranteed money? Well, tsag is who make fifty sixty grand aren't geting. But of course you don't have an honest media. 00:26:08 Speaker 4: And that's yeah, of course obviously. And you know, Senator the I want to just quickly pivot here. In the last two minutes we have with you, here's President Trump on new talks that he announced that he's been having with Ron's leadership. Whoever those people are top five Ron's. 00:26:26 Speaker 7: Born ministry says, you're not telling the truth when. 00:26:29 Speaker 2: It comes to productive conversations family world. 00:26:31 Speaker 8: They're going to have to get themselves better public relations people. We have that very very strong talks. We'll see where they lead. We have points of major points of agreement. I would say almost all points of agreement. Perhaps that hasn't been conveyed. The communication, as you know, has been blown to pieces. They were unable to talk to each other. But we've had very strong talks. Mister wich Gooff and mister Kushner had them. 00:26:59 Speaker 2: They went I. 00:27:01 Speaker 8: Would say perfectly. I would say that if they carry through with that, it'll end that problem, that conflict, and I think it'll end it very, very substantially. 00:27:12 Speaker 4: So he has said that there's going to be a five day ceasefire on any infrastructure or energy. 00:27:19 Speaker 3: The markets love this. That shot. 00:27:20 Speaker 4: The Dow Future shot up up to twelve hundred immediately upon that statement. Senator Marina, what do you make of the status of the war in Iran right now? 00:27:31 Speaker 2: Well, we had to go in. This is forty seven years of bad behavior. We could not allow Ran to have a nuclear weapon. We have basically a blittered in their navy, their air force, their ballistic missiles program is almost completely wiped out. Their ability to wreak havoc and date and damage America, are hurt Americans is almost over. I think at the end of the day, President Trump, by rebuilding the military in his first term, by allowing the generals, the real generals, to do their job, and the second term, has own the capabilities of the American military unlike at any time in history. And I pray every day for the security of our soldiers that are harms weigh and pray for a very very quick ending to this conflict, and hopefully President Trump God will and gets it done, and I think he will. 00:28:17 Speaker 4: Is the Caucus united in support of the President's war efforts. 00:28:21 Speaker 2: We absolutely are. We know this was something that had to be done, even those of us like me who obviously do not want us engage in conflicts all over the world, it was something that was necessary. But if it's quick, if it's decisive, we get out of there. And I know that's what President Trump wants to do. So fully supportive of his efforts, Fully supportive of our military, and thank God every day that we have people like our brave soldiers that are willing to put their lives at risk. 00:28:46 Speaker 4: Senator Bernie Moreno not a warhawk here, Fully supportive of the efforts here. Thank you, Senator. I know you squeezed this in today. Thank you for the time. We'll talk to you again soon. 00:28:55 Speaker 2: Thank you, guys. 00:28:56 Speaker 4: Great conversation with Senator Bernie Moreno. We want to highlight some of what he was talking about. These TSA lines are just insane across the country. 00:29:05 Speaker 5: It's just it's weaponized government breakdowns. As I mentioned with him, it's really dark what they're doing because Democrats have made the calculation that if they mess things up as much as possible in the country, just hurt ordinary Americans. Trump will give into what they want. And what they want is not a better military. What they want is not more law enforcement. What they want is more illegals invading the country and fewer criminals going back to where they came from. 00:29:31 Speaker 4: So Jesse Kelly had a great tweet. He said, Democrats have created three hour weight times at the airport because they don't want illegal aliens deported. That's your messaging. Put it on repeat. I completely agree, So let me repeat it again. Democrats have created three hour weight times at the airport because they don't want illegal aliens deported. They care more about foreigners living illegally in this country than they do about Americans, who have every right to have their airports function properly. 00:29:59 Speaker 3: But you don't get that. 00:30:00 Speaker 4: You don't get nice things because they want foreigners to invade this country. I hope that's very clear right now. 00:30:06 Speaker 3: That's the bottom line. 00:30:07 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is all right. 00:30:09 Speaker 4: So yeah, well, I want to talk about Blake had this great story out of Axios, so we have to get to it. So I want to make time for it. The Democrat presidential candidates are a bunch of cluster b be narcissist ya. 00:30:20 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:30:20 Speaker 5: Basically, so this was this came out late in the evening yesterday, So it's basically today's stories is Axios, Dems eyeing White House, lean into their childhood traumas, and so basically, if you look at President Trump is such a classic politician in a lot of ways. So when President Trump talks about his family, he's like, oh, my father was a great man, a great businessman. I learned from him, you know, I learned a lot from my other family members. And like he even you know, he talks with his brother even though his brother actually died of alcoholism, he still loves his brother. All that shines through and instead it's this is the first line potential. Twenty twenty eight Democrat presidential candidates are introducing themselves to voters in a striking way by documenting their childhood resentments, family chaos, and fights with their parents. And what stands out to me about all of these, by the way, is they talk about three different candidates and all three of them. I think this matters a lot. All three of them are white guys, and so Josh Shapiro. In his recent book Where We Keep the Light, Shapiro writes that he had a happy childhood but at points an unhappy childhood home. And then it continues that uh. 00:31:30 Speaker 4: He says his mother, Judy, could be unstable and that he and his siblings believe that quote, if we were good, we could stop the chaos and the yelling. 00:31:39 Speaker 3: What? 00:31:41 Speaker 5: And then Jadie pricks and says talks about Gavin Newsom is even more candid in his at times fraught relationship with both parents, who he says left him caught between two worlds and fully accepted by neither. He really leans into this dyslexia thing that he's now used to pick a fight with the President, and he even says this is crazy. He recalls being absent at times during his mother's final struggle with cancer, until she left him a voicemail in two thousand and two telling him that he wanted that if he wanted to see her, he had to do so before Thursday, because that's going to be my last day on earth. She had arranged for assisted suicide at that point, Newsom realized he had been hiding from her and hiding from myself because he did not want to face her dying. And so he and his sister. Then are he and Hillary I'm not sure if that's his sister respouse, but joined their mother on her Yeah, their mother, his sister on her final day. And that's his pitch, that's the memoir that he would want potential voters. 00:32:38 Speaker 4: Jbterer, who is an heir to the Hyatt fortune, says that you know, he actually has some legitimate gripes because his dad died of a heart attack, surprise, surprise at when he was seven, and then his mom died of alcoholism when he was a teenager. So okay, but then he inherits you know, millions, maybe billions of dollars, and. 00:33:00 Speaker 3: We're still supposed to relate to his struggles. 00:33:03 Speaker 4: I think this is very telling because it's so democrat of them where they they're put in the front, they're traumas their struggles. They want to be just like you, the average person, the average joe out there on the street. And so instead of lifting up as Trump does, the fact that he had this wonderful, loving family, that he's very proud of. 00:33:23 Speaker 3: They want to bring you in into. 00:33:26 Speaker 4: The you know, break the fourth wall as it were, of the family and tell you how awful their family members are. 00:33:31 Speaker 5: And I think it's another thing. It's that the Prosian Olympics. It's a pression Olympics. The Democrats have kind of built their entire new ideology. It is a resentment based ideology to the victimhood ideology. And they're very aware if you're a white male, you're at the absolute bottom of their priority stack. So if you are black, or a woman or gay, you kind of just you can raise up and it's just that you're running, Hey, I'm this oppressed group. They don't have anything, so they just have to say I'm mess just like a bunch of you. And we also know, as we we talk about on this show, we have had this bifurcation in American life politically in terms of basically how mentally unwell you are. They're much Democrat voters are much more likely to say that they have a diagnosed mental illness, that they are don't crust anxious. They honestly, I think a lot of them probably aren't, and they say it because they want that status. 00:34:23 Speaker 4: You saw this with This is part of what fueled the trans contagion is that kids want the attention. 00:34:28 Speaker 3: They want to be different. 00:34:29 Speaker 4: They don't want to be what do we call it, heteronormative, the normative. They don't want to be They want to have something that they can complain about online. They want to have a disorder, they want to have a dysfunction, they want to have an anxiety, which is a really sick thing that has been implanted into the public psyche. Ironically at the very bottom of this Axios article, and this is why it was important you brought up. These were three white Democrat men. 00:34:53 Speaker 3: The one that. 00:34:54 Speaker 4: Stands out that could be a potential twenty twenty eight candidate for president is New Jersey's editor Corey Booker, who. 00:35:01 Speaker 5: Describes a far warmer childhood. 00:35:03 Speaker 4: He's a black man. So the only one of the four highlighted in the Axios article that doesn't complain about his childhood is the black man. You know, it's take of that what you will, but he dedicates, but it stands out. Yeah, he dedicates in his upcoming books Stand to his mother, writing thank you, Mom for giving me a lifetime of transcendent love. I stand because you and dad so love me. Good for him to be honest, like, wait to show up Pritzker, Who's you know, Charlie always affectionately referred to as a guy who was born on third and thought he hit a triple you know. He called him a Nepo baby, that he would never run for president because he can't run. I mean, Charlie had a lot of good and Charlie had a special place in his heart for the Pritzker family because he's a Chicagoan. So he grew up around these people ruining his state and hated them, actually loathed them what they did to his state. And you've got Pritzker, You've got who are the other three? You've got Gavin Newsom, and you've got Joshapiro all complaining, and yet Corey Booker coming up, coming up saying he had a great childhood. 00:36:14 Speaker 5: It's just really remarkable, and it ends bleak because I don't I don't think it foretells good things for your society when your top leaders their big pitch is I'm I'm just as messed up as you like. We've we've come a long way. It used to be at least you'd have politicians would affect a humble background. Even if okay, you're George W. 00:36:34 Speaker 3: Bush. 00:36:35 Speaker 5: You grew up, you know, with this like elite wasp family, but actually I'm a folks see Texan, just like you. We've gotten used to that that's part of American life. But now it's like, can you imagine George W. Bush going up and he's like, and by the way, like, I'm also, yeah, my dad was abusive and terrible. It'd be messed up. But now that is the society we've chosen. 00:36:56 Speaker 4: So we are transitioning from winter to spring. If if you are anything like me, all of a sudden, you're out with your family. You're out and about and candidly. It's been a moment for me to reflect on what matters the most. I realize that I have this precious gift and it's my family. It's my kids. I want to take care of them. Just getting out and about has helped me realize this in a whole new way. I want to take care of them. That's why I trust the folks at Policy Genius. 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You can find him at doctor Chase Spears on x and he's the host of the Finding Your Spine podcast. Welcome to the show, doctor Chase Spears. 00:39:16 Speaker 10: Andrew, it's great to be with you. 00:39:17 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for the imitation. 00:39:19 Speaker 4: Absolutely honored to have you. You knew Lieutenant Colonel Shaw, and you wrote a very touching tribute to him when you realized the news that he had been killed. Tell us what your first reaction was and also how you knew him. 00:39:35 Speaker 10: Yeah, it was I was actually at a conference. I was up at Omaha attending an annual conference the Ciceronian Society. It's a group of Christian scholars and thinkers who get together once a year to fellowship. And it was Thursday evening. We were sitting at a dinner and I happened to glance stop my phone and I saw that very picture that you're showing on the screen right now, and I immediately recognize that that's Brandon Shaw. He was my classmate at the US Army's Command Engine Staff College from twenty eighteen through twenty nineteen. That's a course that roughly half of the majors in the Army gets sent to up at Fort Leavenworth, and so we were both just really privileged to be able to attend to that. And Brandon was more than just a classmate. He was the section leader. And it was a no brainer when I observed him in that leadership position. We weren't close in cgs. There are some people you get closer to than others, So I want to be open and honest, you know, we weren't tight, but he was someone who led our section incredibly well. It was a no brainer that he was chosen. That he was someone who believed in excellence. He fully embraced the profession of Arms. He wanted to be a better soldier himself. He wanted us to be better soldiers. He wanted to get as much of the course as he could, and he wanted us to give as much of the course as we could. And so it's been quite some time since we talked, but you never forget the people you train with. And you're showing, of course, the section photo right now, and we go across the army and Brandon wasn't big into social media, but we knew wherever he was, he was going to be doing great things, inspiring people. And Thursday night, I sit there and I happened to glance out my phone in that dinner and I see his photo and my first thought was, well, brand is not a he's not an ex at all. I wonder what's going on with him. And before I could even finish that thought, I saw the writing the victim of the terrorist attack has been identified as Lieutenant Colonel Brandon Shaw Andrew. My heart raced. 00:41:34 Speaker 2: I was in. 00:41:36 Speaker 10: I can't even describe what state I was in, so might say it was shock, but my heart was in my throat. And I remember just sitting there reading it over and over and over again, and I had known that there had been an attack earlier in the day. But to see this picture and to know that this man that I had had the privilege of serving with for an eleven month period at the Command in General Staff College, that he was the one who has fallen it hit in an entirely different way. And now I remember my wife looking at me. She could see something was very, very wrong, and she looked at me and said, are you okay? And I just admitted I said no, no, I'm not okay, and I had to get up. I went and found a friend and I said, I need you to go walk with me. And that began a process of just kind of mourning and thinking and struggling through that I'm still going through right now. You know, it was a small, small, small, fractional percentage of what his family is going through. But he touched a lot of lives across the army, and mine was one. 00:42:39 Speaker 4: Well, doctor Spears, I want to highlight something you wrote. You said at the bottom of your letter reacting to his death. You said, the truth is America's sin of empathy based immigration and justice policy is a betrayal to all veterans. You go on, but please build out that thought, because I think a lot of us relate to it. 00:42:59 Speaker 10: I feel this deeply, Andrew, and I've written on this in in other forums about what I call the passive betrayal of our global war and terrorism veterans. I served for twenty years. Brandon had served longer than I had. He was approaching retirement himself. I retired roughly two years ago, and he was almost there himself, looking forward to a great life, a well deserved rest, and spending time with his family and moving on to the next chapter. And I think back to the fact that they sent us for twenty years, Andrew, for twenty years. It was the Bush doctrine, the Neo con doctrine of you fight them over there so you won't have to fight them over here. You leave your families and your loved ones and your lives and you go fight them over there, because that's the trade off we make. You won't have to fight them over here. And that's why I told myself time and time again, miss birthday after miss birthday after missed anniversary, after years of miss time with my sons growing up, with me being deployed or in training for deployment, and Meanwhile, we had the empathetic immigration policy that was based in we must have empathy for these people, we must let them in, and we have a justice system that must let people off early. This terrorist who shot Brandon rightfully was supposed to be in bars through twenty twenty nine. What happened He got off early, a loophole, an empathy based application of justice that prioritized his feelings and his life circumstance over the reality of the criminal and terrorist sympathizer that he was who immigrated to this nation. He came from Sierra Leone. Did he belong here? Of course he didn't. And it's not the first time we had the shooting in DC similar thing. This was a terrorist brought over from Afghanistan. We fought them over there, and then we shiploaded them right over here. We brought the threat home. And Andrew is a global war on terrorism veteran. I consider it a high betrayal. It's something I've got a really big chip on my shoulder about. 00:45:00 Speaker 3: M hmm Blake. 00:45:01 Speaker 5: I mean, I just I don't know that I could put it better than him. It's that we basically the billion, the trillions of dollars we spent the thousands of lives we lost on missions on missions abroad where not only did they frankly I think end and failure, but I don't even know that success was possible because they refused to define any real victory. They were just open ended commitments. They went to Middle America and they said, step up, go abroad. 00:45:32 Speaker 3: We need you. 00:45:34 Speaker 5: By the way, we don't know how this will end in victory. A lot of us in DC are making a lot of money off of this because we have consultancies and think tanks and no skin in the game for us. And then the final betrayal and climax of it is will feel better if we take all of the problems we created abroad and we're gonna bring them here and again, we're not going to take the harms onto ourselves. We're going to settle them in your towns. We're going to make you pay all the externalities for the bad decisions we make. And this just drives it home. But there's tragedies like this that are happening every day. Not all of them are veterans. Some of them are just innocent people who are killed by these migrants and then or ruin public schools, ruined neighborhoods. 00:46:14 Speaker 4: What's your message to politicians when it comes to even legal immigration. 00:46:18 Speaker 10: Ted Cruz said that his philosophy and immigration is very simple, that legal is good, illegal as bad. Andrew I can't discree more. The good kind of immigration is the kind that brings the right people here who want to some light, who want to be productive of Americans, who want to abide by our ways of life, and who want to perpetuate that. And there are a lot of people who've come in legally who have no business here, who have shared nothing in the American values. 00:46:43 Speaker 2: That's bad. 00:46:44 Speaker 10: That's bad immigration policy and this bad justice policy to let them out over and over again. Brandon should be with us today. But you know, one good thing is we know his faith, and we don't mourn is those who have no hope. And so there's the one constellation that we have. 00:47:00 Speaker 4: Amen, doctor Chase Spears, thank you for joining us and for a tribute to your friend and your fallen comrade there and we mourn his death, but we know that he is a Christian and he's with the Lord now. God bless you, sir. 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I'm not sure how we're branding it because we've had some We've gone back and forth with the with the event or doing a TPOs event tonight at ASU with myself and the lovely and talented Blake. 00:48:56 Speaker 5: Nef it's gonna be so I don't know why. I am not sure either. 00:49:01 Speaker 3: Very risky, very risky move. But no, I'm excited for you guys both to do this. 00:49:05 Speaker 4: It's no no better way to honor Charlie than to take it right into the campus. 00:49:09 Speaker 11: So I think we're trying to pick up I think it's pick up the mic. I don't know if it's a debate me, you know, brand I think it's pick up the mic. 00:49:15 Speaker 4: Pick up the mic, Yeah, I mean, but there will be debates I'm sure, and I hope Blake will be dropping uh some some historical facts and knowledge correcting the record on some things. So excuse me, I want to just there's also this other brewing controversy. All of a sudden over the weekend, I get all these email inquiries from press outlets saying, please tell us about the other tour, the Democrat tour that got canceled. Yeah, so they're they're acting like we had something to do with this, which is really irritating. So yeah, go ahead. 00:49:44 Speaker 11: Yeah, So there's this there's this other competing tour that is going on, which I didn't even know about, you know, kind of all this, and I'm very bad. I've been sort of focused on Operation Rand and all this. But this is what you know, I've been I've been smartened up on it. That it's called the you the un America Tour. Destiny's part of it. There's another, you know, another group of individuals that are part of it. And originally it was going to be that both of us were going to be holding outdoor events on ASU's campus at the same time. And so that's one of the reasons that I think that's probably one of the reasons what they wanted to call me, get Blake out there, you know, sort of say hey, we're you know, we're holding these It's called bracketing, right, so you're bracketing each other and you know, counterprogramming each other whatever, and maybe some debates. 00:50:29 Speaker 5: Happen, who knows. 00:50:30 Speaker 11: And then this was interesting because you were getting those media inquiries. But actually what happened last week is something that I think changed this and that's why we weren't able to promote it the way that I'd originally wanted to. We'll still be there, we'll still be holding the event, but our outdoor permit also was not approved by ASU. So they're running around trying to say, oh, you know, Turning Point canceled, and Erica had something to do with it because he was doing. 00:50:57 Speaker 3: It because. 00:50:59 Speaker 11: And actually, yes, yeah, and so what actually happened is ours I think both were not approved. 00:51:05 Speaker 3: Both were not approved, but they're going to be flexed. 00:51:08 Speaker 11: So we were able to flex cause we're you know, we don't give up, so we were able to flex and adapt. 00:51:12 Speaker 5: You know, and we're used to the rules of these things. 00:51:15 Speaker 11: And now we're doing an indoor event and it's going to be the you know it's gonna be tonight at six. 00:51:20 Speaker 4: Well, so I got an inquiry from one of the local papers here going like, did you guys have a hand in canceling their event? I go like, this is the statement, no, but they would sure love you to think that we did. I was like, welcome to university bureaucracy. 00:51:34 Speaker 3: They canceled oar event. Yes, and they cancel. 00:51:37 Speaker 4: So anyways, this group which is I mean, listen, I don't even want to give them too much like publicity because they're they're being obnoxious and rude and vulgar to get attention, all right, But like I'm just going to show you this is them out. They came to the HQ this weekend right here, right here, and flip they were flipping off the memorial picture of Charlie. So show that image. I don't know what image it is. It doesn't have a number on it. Guys, Oh there it is. So that's them. It's just really good people here. 00:52:06 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:52:07 Speaker 4: So Charlie's assassinated in cold blood, doing a free speech event on a college campus, and you have the gall to come up and flip off his sign that we have in front of the HQ as a memorial to him. That's the kind of people that we're dealing with. So when then they then accuse us of blocking their event, it's all garbage. We didn't block their event, don't. I don't even know who these people are. We don't have enough attention to what you're doing to block your event. Okay, like we don't care enough. Go do your thing, go, you know, be vulgar on your own time. We're gonna do our thing. 00:52:38 Speaker 11: And by the way, by the way, I love this because this is the left who has been championing deplatforming and cancel culture for like a decade, and now suddenly they're going, oh, no, our event was. I mean, do you have any idea what it's like being a conservative? You have any idea how Turning Point had to fight and tooth and nail and scrape and scrap the what Charlie and Eyler did for so many years just to appear on campus. How many times there, and that the teables get thrown over everything. 00:53:07 Speaker 4: So this is your friendly terrain where all universities prefer the progressives, and you have the gall to think that we have the power, you know, on enemy terrain to get your event canceled. That is what we call main character syndrome, where you think everything revolves around you. 00:53:27 Speaker 3: We don't think about you. That's the whole point. 00:53:30 Speaker 11: So anyways, actually we were trying to get our event approved, which. 00:53:34 Speaker 4: So we had to pivot to Welcome to the big Leagues. All right, So here you go, let's throw up an image. Throw it up again. This is a Jack and Blake. They're gonna be pick up the mic, right, throw it up. I gotta see Blake. 00:53:48 Speaker 5: It's because, uh, and he said, I need a headshot of you. And I said, studio, do you have a head shot of me? And they said no, And so I had to go and hastily shoot a photo of myself against the wall. They shopped it advertably, but I I don't exactly. It looks like a mugshot. 00:54:04 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:54:05 Speaker 4: Third person is beautiful, your skin tone is balanced. Everything looks fantastic. 00:54:12 Speaker 3: I love it. 00:54:13 Speaker 4: So this is gonna be your first time Blake doing what Charlie did. 00:54:18 Speaker 5: Really, I mean, it's it is a huge it's a huge responsibility. I can say honestly, it's not I You guys know me. I'm a more shy person. I'm more away from the linelight. I like to argue with people in like a telegram chat or in the office. Yeah, I like I like small intimate arrangements. I'm not a guy who wants to stand up in front of or sit for that matter, in front of one hundred people or a thousand people. But Charlie was like that. Charlie was a guy. He didn't think anything of Oh, ten million people will see this on Fox News, a hundred million people will see this on TikTok. He was a guy who wanted to be in the arena because that was his mission to change things. And Blake I was happy to help him with that. He would I was happy he would say, Blake, what's our good talking point on the border, on marriage, on anything. I was so happy to help him with that. And because of what he had to say, he changed the world. And as we know, a murderer had to silence him for what he was going to say. 00:55:12 Speaker 11: And that's why and I wanted to I wanted to address that as well, because to say that in and you know, we'll we'll go into the story more later tonight. But that for the sort of tour that never was six months ago. You would actually help Charlie prepare for that tour with so many arguments and potential you know, comebacks and data points and and Charlie had been going through this like training session of getting ready to go out there and you know, kind of get into the intellectual ring. Yeah, he had the binder and and so now it's just like there's all these debates that that never happened. But Blake, you have that you have that knowledge because you were directly working I mean, we all talked to Charlie, but you directly work with him on it, and you know, I feel like I feel like with you picking up the mic, it really is that the direct I to what Charlie was planning to do. 00:56:04 Speaker 5: I mean, I certainly hope, so I hope. I hope I am to put too much, I hope, but I hope I am worthy of the example that I know I'm not. I am not Charlie's caliber. 00:56:15 Speaker 3: On this, I am. But you'll get better as you do it, hopefully. 00:56:18 Speaker 5: And that's what was. That's what I mean. I was you guys threw me into the threw me to the wolves, talking to a bunch of I hope school as we visited the other person That's what I had to talk about. I said, Charlie was a man who he succeeded a lot because he failed a lot. He when you see every failure as a chance to learn and get better, that is the secret weapon to becoming a huge force in American life. 00:56:40 Speaker 4: So you guys there tonight, pick up the mic at Asu Blake, Nef Jack Pisobic, Thanks buddy, Hi folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why REFI. You've probably been hearing me talk about y REFI for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or some one you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments, maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Why ref I will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America and we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. 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It was argued by one of our co authors, the Solicitor General, who was an amikus supporting the lower court ruling in the Fifth Circuit, and the name of the case is Watson versus Republican National Committee. The Republican National Committee sued Mississippi over its law that allows ballots to be received and counted up to five business days after the federal election day, which is the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November nationwide. Now, Andrew, as you know and your viewers know, election day now means election weeks, election months in some parts of our country. It's not an election day anymore. And so that's really the issue before the court. Does election day mean the final day that states can receive these ballots is election day? That's what the lower court ruled. We're asking for that to be affirmed. Each of the nine justices. As unusual, I've sat through many oral arguments. All of the justices asked questions in this case, and it was very lively. First of all, in Mississippi's Solicitor General did a great job trying to defend Mississippi law. But I think Paul Clement, the former Solicitor General, he argued for the Republican National Committee, and I think he had the better of the arguments. It's the argument that we're supporting effectively. And then our solicter General came in and talked about some of the United States's positions on these issues. And so it's caused chaos now and a lot of people feel uncertainty and a lack of confidence in the outcome of our elections because you see the results flip, you see certain numbers on election day, and then in some states like California, they can keep receiving these ballots for weeks after the election and they don't even eight states don't even require a postmark. And the Postal SERVI also tells us these days they don't post. 01:00:01 Speaker 2: Mark all the mail. 01:00:03 Speaker 4: Hermit just really quick, you said some states don't require a postmark. 01:00:07 Speaker 3: I didn't even know that. 01:00:08 Speaker 9: Eight states, eight states don't require a postmark, and the Postal service itself says they no longer bother to postmark all the mail. So how do we know that these ballots were duly cast? And secondly, you know, the rest of the world we condemned for being not as efficient and as committed to republican or democracy form of government. 01:00:28 Speaker 2: As we are. 01:00:29 Speaker 9: The rest of the world has election results on election day itself, Even countries that we consider to be not very civilized do that. We're one of the places where we're I think, ignoring federal law. So the statutes in question before the court go back to eighteen forty five, and there was a vigorous discussion about the history of the Civil War when there were certain unusual procedures put into place to allow proxy voting and battlefield voting and all of that. And we can always have exceptions to our laws, of course. So for example, there's a federal statute that specifically covers overseas voters, and that's one of the statutes that I administer here. It's called UOKAVA. So where the federal government creates certain special rules, that is not an issue. But where states are making up rules that make it looser and looser and looser, and we don't have an election day anymore, that's the problem. And so one other interesting thing to note about this argument. A case came up several times. This is Missippi. This is not Mississippi's first trip to the court over the date of the election. In nineteen ninety seven, they had a case called Foster versus Love, in which they had an open primary in Mississippi, and if you won the majority in the open primary, including in a federal race, that was the end of it. There was no general election. And in that case, the United States Supreme Court held unanimously in nineteen ninety seven that that was inconsistent with the very same federal statutes that we're talking about here. There has to be a general election, it has to be on election day. And when you're allowing ballots to keep trickling in for months and weeks afterwards, that's not appropriate. 01:02:00 Speaker 5: Harmy, do we have a do we have good numbers on the scale, like in in a state, what percent or what number of ballots are typically coming in late? And do we have any examples where there's been a very suspiciously high number of these postmarked on election day or no postmark at all ballots? 01:02:17 Speaker 9: Now, I don't think that this case turns on suspiciousness of the behavior or anything, but it does vary. Some states vote entirely by absentee ballot. Now there's a couple of states that are more rural in character. There used to be an excuse requirement and states that's been eliminated in many states, particularly during COVID. So in fact, one of the things that was mentioned during this oral argument is that you know, there may have been a couple of different outliers during the Supreme Court era where this federal law was passed and using the same kind of doctrinal analysis that the Court used in the Bruin decision regarding Second Amendment rights. The argument by the Republican National Committee and this Lister General's Office arguing our brief, was that we should use that kind of textual analysis to look at what the Congress in eighteen fifty four meant when it passed this bucket of laws, and it couldn't possibly have meant that you can have absentee balloting trickling in for weeks after the election. That does not provide the finality or certainty that is required, and that's the basis for Congress to have passed these laws in the first place, creating a federal election day for federal elections. But we do see some states where it's almost all as, where it's all absentee balloting, and then we see some states where the numbers vary. And in many jurisdictions today after COVID, you can't even go in and cast your ballot in person where those states used to allow it. They have voting centers, and there's all kinds of problems with that. I saw that in person in Arizona, where you walk into a precinct and you print up a ballot and maybe they had the wrong paper there, or they have the paper doesn't print correctly, or they have it loaded the correct poll book, and so on and so forth. Wouldn't it be great if we could just have the finality of people voting on or near the election day, but not after the election day, and have the votes counted quickly. 01:04:10 Speaker 5: Well, it really does feel like there's two layers to this. As you say, there's the layer of is there actual fraud that this enables, but it's also to make people to make the system work. People need to feel like it is working. And when you have all these little bits, they just make you raise your eyebrow. A ballot can come in after election day, they got to print it out. There's all this when everything it adds all this friction that does we both believe, make it easier to do fraud. But even if it's not happening, it makes people distrust the process and that makes them check out, That makes them get more radical and how they approach you. 01:04:44 Speaker 3: If you don't want us to think that there's election fraud, then stop doing a bunch of crazy stuff that leads us to believe there could be election fraud. 01:04:51 Speaker 9: It's very absolutely, I mean sixteen states have these laws that allow ballots to be counted days and weeks after the elec and they're the most populous states in many cases. California, where I used to live, is one, and there are other states like this, and so you know, you have to wonder and look at those trends and see why is that. Why is it necessary for us to have a three week extension period for election for ballots to be received and counted. It doesn't seem necessary, and it does seem inconsistent with the concept of election day. So the justices were very, very engaged. You could tell where most of them are going with their questions, and it was a rarely do you see an oral argument go on for more than two hours, but literally we had the privilege of seeing three of the top advocates in the country argue this, and I think they all did a good job. But the law seems to support thinking. 01:05:46 Speaker 5: Are you thinking we could get the rare nine to zero on a case that is getting any attention? 01:05:52 Speaker 9: This is not going to be a nine? Oh, I think I can very confidently predict that. I don't believe in gambling, but I think there's a there's definitely you know, three justices who were skeptical of the government's position being a United States government's position and the Republican National Committee's position. And I think there were several justices who were clearly skeptical of the concept that under Mississippi law, Mississippi says the ballot is properly cast if you put it in the mail on election day, giving no reference to you know, being accepted at the election headquarters, which is what the historical meaning was, that it be in the hands of election officials by a certain date. 01:06:36 Speaker 2: And so. 01:06:39 Speaker 9: I feel like I could count some of the solid votes to support, but you know, you never know until you see. And I think that this is one of those cases where even the justices who might agree on the conclusion may have different paths to get there. Some may not want to go as far as others on this. And there was some spirited questioning as to whether there's something such as a too early early deadline for early voting. I mean, that's been an issue that many people have debated, and Justice Alito asked a question about that, and I don't think you need to reach that question to agree that there should definitely be an endpoint to it, and that should be the federal election day set by Congress for all federal elections. 01:07:17 Speaker 4: So yeah, so if the government is successful here, what are the ramifications? 01:07:24 Speaker 3: What do we get? 01:07:26 Speaker 9: So there are sixteen states that have this post election day ballot receipt where there are mail ballots, those would all be inconsistent with federal law and struck down and that's huge. And so that would mean that there's an election day which is the last day by which ballots can be received by the government and now to be determined for the future. Is there too early date? 01:07:51 Speaker 5: I think that there are other kind of things. 01:07:52 Speaker 4: I mean, you think back to you think back to twenty twenty when we were getting all this Hunter Biden stuff. There was already ballots being cast while that debate was being had, at least by part of the population, and part of the population got it completely censored from them. But all of that stuff in the final month of the presidential election, it was like we didn't know how many people had made cast their vote before they'd even heard the full that's right information. 01:08:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. 01:08:18 Speaker 9: And you know, if I can just add one more point. One of the very interesting things that these folks were looking at is Mississippi. Technically you can recall your ballots. You can put it in the mail and then you can ask FedEx or you can ask the US Postal Service to not deliver it. And that's a huge problem for Mississippi, and several of the justices argued about that. So we'll be waiting on the edge of our seats to see when we can get this ruling. It has to come out by June rather. 01:08:43 Speaker 4: I have so many other Scotus questions for you her meet, the racial jerry mandering question, the birthright citizenship. 01:08:53 Speaker 3: We've got a lot of stuff pending. 01:08:55 Speaker 9: Happy to come talk to you about. 01:08:56 Speaker 4: All right, good, we're going to have to get to it. Har Meat Dylan, you're doing a fan fantastic job. Thank you for making time for us today after oral arguments. You sat through two hours of them, so very very good update. Hopefully you're right, Maybe we get a six' three here and at least part of the clown show that is our federal elections will be. 01:09:16 Speaker 3: Rectified we certainly. 01:09:17 Speaker 5: Can it'll be. 01:09:18 Speaker 4: Amazing that'd be. Amazing Harmy, dylan thank you so. 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