From the Archive: The Crisis Facing Young Women with Charlie and Allie Beth Stuckey

00:00:03 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie kirk I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future. 00:00:10 Speaker 2: Of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. 00:00:14 Speaker 1: If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. 00:00:19 Speaker 2: But if the most. 00:00:20 Speaker 1: Important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start attorney point, you would say, college chapter. Go start attorny point, you say high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. 00:00:45 Speaker 2: Here I am Lord, Use me. Buckle up, everybody, here we go. 00:00:58 Speaker 1: Noble Gold Investments is the gold sponsor of Charlie Kirkshow a company that specializes in gold rays and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments dot Com. That is Noblegoldinvestments dot com. It's where I buy all of my gold. Go to noblegoldinvestments dot com. We have a very very special guest tonight. I've known Ali for probably five or six years. Ali is one of the most important voices in the Christian community and definitely the Christian Conservative community. She has an amazingly successful podcast. 00:01:39 Speaker 2: It's called Relatable, Right is Am? I right? 00:01:43 Speaker 1: I don't listen to every episode, but I listened to it frequently. And what I love about Ali's approach is that I will say almost the same thing that Ali says. She just said it so much sweeter than I do, and I'll listen to it. I'm like, yeah, I probably could have said it like that. Probably could have said it like that. I mean, you know my style, right, We don't really cushion things very much, straight to the point. But it's not that Allie cushions it. It's just that she has an amazingly godly way of communicating hard truths and biblical truths. In a world where young ladies are lacking role models. She is a godly role model, a mother, a wife, someone who understands the scriptures very well, and somebody that We're just honored to partner with she said me speaking at our women's summit at Turning Point, USA this weekend. She is very, very gifted and not afraid to bring the heat against this broken culture. So join me in welcoming Ali Bethstucky. 00:02:50 Speaker 2: How are you not up for you tonight? 00:02:53 Speaker 3: Okay, sure, you're excellent life. Hello, thank you so much. 00:02:58 Speaker 4: We're getting an extra monike, so I'm just going to fill that window. 00:03:02 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. This is my. 00:03:04 Speaker 4: First time to dream City, and so thank you so much for that warm welcome. This is really an exciting week why WLS. The first time I spoke at YWLS, I think was twenty eighteen, it was a lot smaller than it is now, and oh my goodness, it's grown. Every time I speak, I always say this is my favorite event ever, just because of the energy of all the women there. 00:03:29 Speaker 1: And it's very unique because we say biological females only because that's the only type of female there is. 00:03:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, we have to qualify that these days. 00:03:39 Speaker 1: Yep. And anyway, you'll be able to watch it online again. Nearly two thousand young women from across the country will be gathering in San Antonio, Texas this weekend. It's a remarkable thing, all becoming force multiplayers. 00:03:52 Speaker 2: Allie, why don't you. 00:03:53 Speaker 1: Just take a second introduce yourself. You know the books, you've written, your podcast, Just introduce yourself to the audience. 00:04:00 Speaker 4: So my name is Ali Stucky, and I am a wife and a mom of three girls. So that's more important or most important underneath my relationship with Jesus Christ. My desire to make him known is my vocation as a wife and mom. But then also I host this podcast called Relatable good job getting the title of that right, Charlie, where we analyze news, culture, politics, theology from a Christian conservative perspective, and I talked to mostly women ages twenty five to forty five about the importance of building a biblical worldview and. 00:04:38 Speaker 3: The reason I did it. 00:04:39 Speaker 4: It was not the exact same story as Charlie's when he thought of turning point, but it was a little similar in that I was driving one day and I just realized, oh, this is a big problem. Not twenty twelve, this was probably twenty sixteen. I was living in a pretty conservative college town in Athens, Georgia used to be conservative, and I was looking around and thinking, all of these young women who claimed to be Christian, who were raised in these solid homes. This was, of course the election of Trump and Hillary Clinton, and they did not know anything that was at stake in the election. They didn't know who they were going. 00:05:20 Speaker 3: To vote for. 00:05:21 Speaker 4: I was leading a Bible study at the time. I was a year out of college. I was leading a freshman Bible study. One of the sweet girls in my Bible study, who was so smart, she told me that she loved Bernie Sanders. And that is when I realized, Okay, we've. 00:05:40 Speaker 3: Got some work to do. 00:05:43 Speaker 4: And so I speak to I speak to mostly Christian women. And by the way, she is a wife mom Trump voting conservative Republican today, thankfully by the grace of God. But anyway, so that's why I started to do what I do. Now I'm speaking to mostly Christian women. Okay, what does the Bible say about these issues? 00:06:09 Speaker 3: How do we approach. 00:06:10 Speaker 4: These very controversial topics today that honestly, most Christian female leaders are really wishy washy, really mushy, really weak on what does the Bible say about these things? And of course I'm not the perfect arbiter of what the Bible says about everything. But my goal is to help us do our best in building our worldview on scripture. 00:06:34 Speaker 3: So that's basically my mission. 00:06:36 Speaker 1: And Ali is one of our most requested speakers at Turning Point USA, and we did a campus event together in Auburn, and I think that clip has been selling fun like fifty or sixty million times where a young lady came up and asked me where do where's my criminology degree or something? 00:06:53 Speaker 2: It was quite an interaction. 00:06:57 Speaker 5: If you're about to turn sixty five, when you're already on Medicare, this message is for you. Charlie cared about America seniors. He was outraged that so many were paying too much for their Medicare coverage and getting less than they deserved in return. That's why he partnered with Chapter and we're still partnered with Chapter. 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We're seeing that reflected in the wast today, or maybe just in the world today, when you look back at adams sin, the sin of passivity, when he stood there as Eve listened to the serpent and took the bite that she shouldn't have taken, and then Eve hearing and being tempted to be convinced by the question did God really say? And I still see that manifesting itself today among men and women, women being tempted by this very deceptive and cunning question. But did God really say, did God really say on the issue of marriage, or on the issue of gender, on the issue of gender roles, whatever it is that the culture today deems controversial, did God really say. I like to say that women, I don't like to say it, but I do say it that women are typically tempted by something that I call toxic empathy. Because we are feelings based, because we have sympathy and have empathy. 00:09:22 Speaker 3: For those who are on the margins, and we. 00:09:25 Speaker 4: Really want to build relationships, we very often can confuse empathy for love, and we very often can obscure the truth just because we. 00:09:34 Speaker 3: Want to affirm how someone feels. 00:09:37 Speaker 4: And that gets a lot of women, even Christian women, and very unbiblical territory when it comes to social justice, when it comes to LGBTQ, when it comes to all kinds of issues that women have a lot of maybe rightful feelings about, but our feelings cannot obscure what the Word of God says about the things, and so I try to navigate that as much as I can. 00:10:03 Speaker 2: So. 00:10:04 Speaker 1: The idea of male and female differences, that's a distinction that is fundamental to any society, which is one of the reasons why Satan tries to obscure those differences. Those differences are beautiful, and those distinctions are necessary for us to be able to live in a free society and live in a civil society, and we're seeing those eradicated on a daily basis. I got in a lot of trouble recently when I said you might remember and you defended me, by the way, very nicely on social media where and I didn't say it as politely as Ali would have said it, but I said, young ladies, be careful prioritizing career over family formation, because you might end up in your early thirties with a career but no family. 00:10:49 Speaker 2: And lots of cats. 00:10:50 Speaker 1: I got in a lot of trouble for saying that I don't care, So why talk broadly about that? There is a trend and you just mentioned this. The most left wing cohort in America are not black voters. 00:11:06 Speaker 2: They're not Hispanic voters. 00:11:07 Speaker 1: They are single, unmarried, career, college educated young ladies living in the urban cities of this country that have made a conscious decision over a period of ten or fifteen years to not get into serious relationships and not prioritize family formation. 00:11:22 Speaker 2: Talk about that. 00:11:23 Speaker 4: Yes, many of those women have made that conscious decision, They decided or they bought into this lie that has been propagated by the media that you can become a mom whenever, you can get married whenever, and really, right now, you just need to focus on you. You need to find yourself. You need to learn how to love yourself first. 00:11:44 Speaker 3: If you don't. 00:11:45 Speaker 4: Fully know yourself and love yourself and discover yourself and fulfill and empower yourself, then you'll never be able to be a good wife and mom and have other good relationships. Well, what happens when you believe that lie, because it's not true, this whole thing that you can't love other people until you perfectly love yourself. I think that's actually a lie from the pit of Hell that Satan uses to defer us from loving other people because we'll never perfectly love ourselves. And by the way, we're not even called to focus on loving ourselves at all. That's an aside. But women, we believe this self empowerment talk because it sounds good, and so you believe that you can defer motherhood and at an age when we think that biology is arbitrary, the biology of male and female but also the biology of reproduction and the female body. It sounds really convincing. And then, like Charlie said, I may or may not have included cats as I was talking about this, but it's a fair point. A lot of women end up realizing, oh, I didn't realize that this would be so difficult at this point. I didn't realize that I wouldn't be able to to find a man right away or get pregnant very easily, just because that's how female, you know, biology tends to work. Now, I will say, and this is what I also said on my show, because I have beautiful, godly single thirty something friends. 00:13:18 Speaker 3: Who are doing all the right things. 00:13:20 Speaker 4: Who yes, they have a career, because what were they supposed to do. But they've been going to church, they've been serving, they've been trying to meet. 00:13:26 Speaker 3: The right guy. They just haven't met the right person. 00:13:29 Speaker 4: And so I do also, I always want to give encouragement to that woman who feels like, oh my gosh, I've tried to do everything right and I haven't met the man that I'm going to marry. And then they feel like, oh, Charlie Kirk thinks I'm a cat lady, and I'm not. 00:13:47 Speaker 3: I do want to speak to that. 00:13:48 Speaker 4: Woman because I have friends like that that are beautiful, godly women and total catches and they just haven't found the right person. Is that God can use you fully right now where you are, no matter your relationship status, and no matter whether you have children, is that your life doesn't your life doesn't start at that point. You're not in a holding pattern, you're not in some kind of earthly purgatory. You're not useless to the Kingdom of God. Just because of your relationship status. Satan wants you to think that you're not a full woman or you're not a full Christian until XYZ happens. 00:14:29 Speaker 3: And that is a lie that. 00:14:30 Speaker 4: Will steal your joy and that will steal your usefulness for the Kingdom of God. And so it's not a guarantee one that we're going to get married. It's not a guarantee that we'll have children. Hopefully, I mean, that's what people hope for. But I just want you to know that if you want those things, God has given you those things, yet you're being placed in the right spot to try to have those things one day, that you are still fully capable of being used by God right now, Beautiful, I totally agree. 00:15:04 Speaker 5: For nearly three thousand years, Homer's The Iliad has shaped the Western imagination as one of the foundational works of Western literature. It explores permanent questions about honor, courage, leadership, friendship, justice, and what it means to live a noble life. 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That's Charlie for Hillsdale dot Com. 00:16:07 Speaker 1: I want to isolate something which tends to be more a female driven Eastern focus or emphasis, which is self love? 00:16:18 Speaker 2: So what is self love? 00:16:20 Speaker 1: And when I sometimes hear Christians tell me that we need more self love? 00:16:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would love to. 00:16:27 Speaker 1: Like find the Bible verse like I mean, I guess it says love your neighbor as yourself, But that's not exactly I mean. 00:16:33 Speaker 2: We're supposed to love Jesus and love God. 00:16:35 Speaker 1: I mean it says in Deuteronomy six six, three and five love the Lord your God, all your heart, soul, strength, and mind. 00:16:40 Speaker 2: Is self love? Biblical? 00:16:41 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:16:41 Speaker 4: You know the only time we see this term self love is when we are reading the description of the evils of the end times and the end times. 00:16:52 Speaker 3: People will be lovers of self. 00:16:56 Speaker 4: And today we hear oh no, no, no, that's basically gosp that love your neighbor as yourself is also a command to love yourself. 00:17:05 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, that's not what Jesus is saying. 00:17:08 Speaker 4: He's saying, love your neighbor as yourself, because loving yourself is a given. No man ever hated his own flesh but cherishes it. 00:17:16 Speaker 3: Now, does that mean. 00:17:17 Speaker 4: That we always like ourselves? No, we don't always like ourselves. We don't always like what we see when we look in the mirror. Maybe we regret something that we did, or which we could change, something about our personalities or our capabilities. But we love ourselves innately in that we are always seeking to satisfy our own needs and wants to quench our own thirsts, to satisfy our own hunger. So in that way that you so naturally seek to meet your own needs, Jesus is saying seek to meet the needs of other people. 00:17:46 Speaker 3: He's not talking about affection. 00:17:48 Speaker 4: He's not talking about liking your neighbor or liking yourself. He is talking about a sacrificial kind of love that we already very naturally feel for ourselves. We do not have a deficit of self love in this country, Oh my goodness, we do not have a deficit of self love. We have an overflowing of self love. We think about ourselves way too much, We love ourselves way too much. I saw an awful statistic on X today about how suicide rates are climbing, and they're so much higher than they were just ten years ago. And it's so interesting because we have more self love, talk, more self empowerment, talk less shame, less stigma, more tolerance, more acceptance of everything, and still we have this pandemic of despair. I mean, to me, it seems obvious that despair has gone up as godlessness has gone up. Right, that as godlessness has increased, people have lost their joy, they've lost their purpose, they've lost their community, they've lost their hope, they've lost their faith in some thing bigger than themselves. And when the God of scripture is no longer on the throne, then we put the God of self on the throne. And the God of self is a cruel god, and it leads to the kind of despair and discouragement that we're seeing today. So no, we don't need more self love. We need a lot more of God's love, which looks very different. 00:19:25 Speaker 2: And this is so important. 00:19:28 Speaker 1: If you go into almost any public school here in Scottsdale or around the country, self love is the state run religion of K through twelve education. Well, also paganism and environmental worship, anti racism, transgenderism, grooming, those are state run religions too, But self love is the one that Christians fall for far too often. And here is the alley. You said it perfectly. You would think that when a society starts to love themselves more, then let's just say, actions of despair, suicide, drug overdosing, aimlessness, checking out. 00:20:06 Speaker 2: A society would go down. 00:20:08 Speaker 1: So as we have prioritized self esteem or self love and we've deemphasized self control, big difference. We have seen the West collapse because when you have self love, you're thinking about yourself all the time. Dare I think you would agree? Ally it is narcissistic at its core. I'm the most important thing in the world, So I'm going to go give myself a metaphorical hug. And who cares if I keep on smoking weed or watching pornography because I have to love myself. No, the West was built on the biblical idea of duty and obligation of what I ought to do. And when you start thinking about the divine and others more than you think about yourself, you're actually happier. 00:20:55 Speaker 2: When you think. 00:20:55 Speaker 1: About yourself all the time, you will torment yourself into just basically into a corner. You can't a human being can't survive like that. Why do you think Christians have become so susceptible to this? Where does that come from? Because every so often I'll hear a pastor or to kind of spite, you know, add in a little bit of a self love thing and just take a moment and think about yourself. Or you can do it if you put your mind. So where does that come from? 00:21:22 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess it's a form of therapeutic Christianity, and the therapy world is very influenced by New Age philosophy, and I see this a lot among Christian women reading books that are really more New Age, and the idea goes like this, that we are all on a journey to find ourselves and that inside we have this beautiful goddess that's really perfect, and if we throw off all societal expectations, toxic relationships, people's unfair standards, religion rules, all of that, then we'll leash this perfect goddess inside of ourselves and everything that we've ever wanted will finally become ours and will finally be happy and fulfilled. Every single teacher, every single author I know that has pushed that message behind her is broken relationships, broken friendships, a lot of deceit, and simply a lot of sadness. That is not the journey that the Christian is on. In Scripture, when we see self dash something else, it's never self empowerment or self sufficiency, it's self denial, it's self control. So we already know that unleashed, we love ourselves a lot. And what that self love looks like is giving into every feeling and want that I have. And I mean, we can look at any human being, we can look at all of history, we can look at any toddler that we see running around, and we see the terror that it looks like when someone is only concerned with what they want in any given moment. So yeah, to answer your question, I think it's New Age therapy that has woven itself into Christianity, and they think telling people that feeling better about yourself is the same thing as the Gospel, and it's not. 00:23:29 Speaker 1: And I compare it to I think an entire generation has effectively lived the metaphorical King Solomon life, meaning they've done everything they want to do, They've had every earthly treasure imaginable. And I encourage you guys just to open up the first couple of verses of Ecclesiastes. You'll think you're reading like a sixteen year old suicide. 00:23:50 Speaker 2: Note I'm not kidding. 00:23:52 Speaker 1: He starts with worthless, meaningless, meaningless. All in the world is meaningless. You're like, is this some sort of punk rock song or something about to say? And essentially no, it's King Solomon who goes on and on about how nothing has any meaning and it's all terrible and awful. Now the book ends actually in a much better place because he says and actually has meaning, thanks to God. 00:24:11 Speaker 2: But I understand the context. 00:24:13 Speaker 1: This is King Solomon, who had everything you could possibly imagine. As Jesus says, even Solomon, all of his splendor, would not be clothed. The idea of Solomon's riches is beyond anything you imagine, anything the flesh desired. Solomon had as many wives as you would want, as many robes as you want, as much land as territory, conquering people at his beckoning call. And the guy is writing, just nothing matters, Everything is meaningless. And again the whole generation has effectively lived that life, which is hedonism at its core, pleasure first above all, I will worship myself and I will not die to myself for Christ. And we're seeing the ramifications of that ali. Our job is hard because our job is to tell a broken culture to basically repent from their vices, and to go through a chapter that might be uncomfortable, but it's actually better for them. It's trying to get a country to take the metaphorical cough medicine, essentially, and the church is supposed to be the one issuing that correction to the error. How do we best do that? And I don't think I do it the best. I just know that I can. I'm more on the truth side than on the love and truth side, me too, And I just how do we best correct a broken culture without running the risk of being, let's just say, credibly accused of being legalistic or too harsh. By credibly, I mean outside of the nonsensical fake Christians that issue those criticisms towards us. 00:25:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, what you said reminded me of something. And we see a lot of videos of deconstruction. I'm sure y'all have heard of ex vangelicals or the deconstruction movement, and especially in the month of June, everybody actually it's it's no way at Covenant month. That's why everyone has the rainbows around, right, celebrating God's promise. Yeah, so it made me think of something because whenever I hear the deconstruction testimonies of people who say, oh, I know everything that you guys believe, because I was raised believing that too, and now I'm so much smarter on the other side because I don't believe it. 00:26:28 Speaker 3: They'll say things. 00:26:29 Speaker 4: It usually has to do with their sexual sin, and they wanted to give into their sexual sin or their friends' sexual sin, and they didn't want to tell their friend that they're in sin. And they'll say something like, you know, I tried to repent of that, or I tried to pray away that struggle, or I tried, you know, being holy, and I just couldn't do it. And I'm like, oh, someone along, someone along the way of your faith told you that it was going to be easy. 00:26:56 Speaker 3: Someone told you that. 00:26:58 Speaker 4: This sanctification business would is going to be fun all the time. Someone told you that we would just be able to pray our struggles away and they would be gone the next day, and that's what the Christian life was going. 00:27:09 Speaker 3: To look like. 00:27:10 Speaker 4: No one ever told you that self denial is going to be hard from here until glory. And so a lot of the deconstruction movement, I think is actually because of unfair expectations that are placed on them by pastors who say that Christianity is all about just being happy and loving yourself when it's not. We get something so much better through Christ? Do we get liberation from our sin? And of course freedom from sin and sorrow forever and ever in heaven with Him. But now I'm forgetting what your what your question was? Because I went on my side. 00:27:45 Speaker 3: What did you ask? 00:27:47 Speaker 2: I can't remember either, So. 00:27:49 Speaker 1: Okay, it was something I interjected about pride mine? 00:27:52 Speaker 4: How do we how do we speak the truth in Oh that's right? 00:27:55 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, now I'm remembering. 00:27:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I was saying that how do we credibly? How do we speak the truth out credibly? Being accused of being too harsh, too legalistic. Again, I try to do that balance. I think I end up getting a little bit too in the truth side. 00:28:12 Speaker 2: But I mean, let's just give an example. 00:28:13 Speaker 1: I mean, a young lady you know, comes up to you and at a college event she says that she's a practicing lesbian or what you know, whatever, How do we navigate? All of us have those conversations, all of us have those friends. How do we be love and truth, truth and grace as Christ. 00:28:27 Speaker 2: Was both those things. 00:28:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I recently had the opportunity I don't always have this opportunity. I don't go on college campuses in the same way that you do and have those interactions with people. 00:28:38 Speaker 3: I disagree with every day. 00:28:39 Speaker 4: But I had this almost three hour debate on another podcast with a teacher who calls himself of course this is not something that's real, but he calls himself non binary, and he has a very. 00:28:52 Speaker 3: Large TikTok platform. 00:28:53 Speaker 4: He is a teacher of I think middle school students, and he's always talking about these things. 00:28:57 Speaker 3: He has his. 00:28:59 Speaker 4: Degree in statistics from Dartmouth. He went to Johns Hopkins for his education degree. So he really felt like he brought a lot to the table when we were debating gender ideology, and I had the opportunity to really ministered him in that conversation without backing down at all. I mean I did not back down one cinemeter, not even a little bit, because the truth is so obvious and it's so easy, and I did not have to give credence to anything he said. 00:29:33 Speaker 3: But when he told me, which was not surprising at all, that he was raised. 00:29:38 Speaker 4: By two women, that he had no dad in his life and really no father figure at all, and that he was very confused by the time he was a teenager and he felt like he was in the wrong body. It was that moment that I got to say, I bet that was so hard. I thought that felt really terrible to feel like you aren't in the right place, to feel misplaced in your own self. I bet that was hard. But that's where you can stop. You do not have to go beyond that and then affirm their feelings. I bet that was really hard. 00:30:16 Speaker 3: But God made you a man. I bet that was really hard. 00:30:22 Speaker 4: But we all have struggles, and we all believe lies, and we're all uncomfortable in this life and in our bodies. And God sent his only son to free us from those lies and the burden of sin. 00:30:37 Speaker 3: That is the good news. That's the good news. Not that you get to stay in your sin. 00:30:44 Speaker 4: No, Jesus said that his burden is light and his yoke is easy. 00:30:48 Speaker 3: The burden of sin is heavy. The yoke of sin is really hard. 00:30:53 Speaker 4: And if we believe that, if we believe the Gospel, then the most loving thing that we can always do is agree with God, the most lovely thing we can always do. And will you still get people who are mad at you? Will you still get people who say, oh, you're mean, you're a bigot. 00:31:11 Speaker 3: Of course they crucified Jesus. 00:31:15 Speaker 4: Do we think that we're going to be let off the hook? I mean, when you look at, for example, Stephen, he was full of grace and truth. Jesus full of grace and power. Stephen full of grace and truth. I think I didn't switch those up, but it's basically the same principle. Stephen he stood there and he just shared the gospel to those men. What happened to Stephen? Did they accept him? Did he get to write an authed in the New York Times? He was stoned to death. 00:31:44 Speaker 3: And so we cannot. 00:31:45 Speaker 4: Judge our obedience by people's reaction to us. 00:31:51 Speaker 5: Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refy. You've probably been hearing me talk about Why Refy for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments, maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. 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I want to make sure I give him credit because he hasn't spoke out about this. 00:33:12 Speaker 2: In the past. 00:33:13 Speaker 1: If you have reduced your entire identity to your sexual behavior and that is who you identify as, that that is a that how do I say this? That is a very that that is not the best way that you should present yourself to the world, and nor should we accept that from people. 00:33:35 Speaker 2: That we truly love. 00:33:36 Speaker 1: That's the best way I can say it is that if your sexual behavior is the most important thing to you, that's really weird. Let's just be honest that that that's the most important thing. Not your character, not how you treat other people, not your relationship with the divine, not not the things that actually matter. And remember, before the Fall is Pride. Pride go with before the fall and before destruction. So it is Pride month. It's so interesting. So we have a twenty one month old We just welcome a baby boy, by the way, three weeks ago, praise God. And so Allie and I both we are now card carrying members of two under two, which I'm told is U you got extra points for that. We're enjoying every minute of it. And so it's so interesting. We try to not watch a lot of TV, but every so often, you know, you try to try to kids program for twenty minutes or something. And there was this really creepy woman that pops up on your YouTube well before this stuff, Miss Rachel. What a weird person this is, and I never liked her and I was like, she's never allowed on my TV. There's like there's something wrong, like total groomer vibes, like big eyes, like very strange. Do you know what I'm talking about anybody? I think she's a total syh op from something. And what happened this last week ally with mits Rachel. 00:34:58 Speaker 4: Oh see, probably wouldn't have described her in that way, but to be fair, to be fair, a lot of people agree with Charlie my kids. 00:35:08 Speaker 1: And she has these bug eyes and she's like very weird. 00:35:11 Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know miss Rachel personally. We've also never watched mysteryechel Different in my home, but she does seem this but this is where it gets dangerous. She does seem very sincere and very sweet. And she a couple years ago, and I. 00:35:26 Speaker 3: Talked about it on my podcast at the time, and people freaked out about. 00:35:29 Speaker 4: It because she invited Dylan mulvaney, the grown man who calls himself a girl and got famous from dressing up basically like a six year old girl on TikTok. She invited him on her show. That collaboration hasn't happened yet. She also had someone who was presenting herself as going by they them and inviting the young audience to drag shows in Chicago. But her videos were still about speech. They were about ABC. So ten million subscribers on YouTube, extremely popular even among you know Christian women, millions of followers on Instagram. Well, this month she gives special Pride message, saying, happy Pride. If you don't want to follow me, I don't really care. God bless go your own way, but I'm going to celebrate pride. 00:36:18 Speaker 3: She follows back up saying. 00:36:19 Speaker 4: The reason I celebrate pride, she says, is because of my Christian faith. Because Jesus tells me to love my neighbor as myself and there are no exceptions. And so miss Rachel as sincere and as sweet as I think that she probably is. 00:36:36 Speaker 3: She confuses. 00:36:39 Speaker 4: She confuses love, biblical love with that toxic empathy. 00:36:45 Speaker 3: Toxic empathy, says, because I can. 00:36:47 Speaker 4: Feel what you feel, I have to affirm what you feel is good, and that's not the love of God. The great news is Here's great news is that we cannot out love God. 00:36:59 Speaker 3: God is love. 00:37:00 Speaker 4: First John four one, God is love. That means love is not love. God is love. And in one Corinthians thirteen he is so gracious to give us clarity on what love is. It's a lot of things. It's patient, it's kind. It also does not rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth, and so it is never loving to affirm someone's sin. 00:37:25 Speaker 3: That God, who is Love. 00:37:27 Speaker 4: Told us what marriage and gender is in the very first chapter, the first book of the Bible. That's how much it mattered. It's pre civilizational, it's pre cultural. 00:37:35 Speaker 3: It's pre law. 00:37:36 Speaker 4: That means it cannot be subject to cultural whims or political definitions or social changes. It's rooted in creation that God made us male and female the Bible. The Bible starts with the marriage. The Bible starts with the marriage. 00:37:54 Speaker 3: And ends with the marriage. 00:37:56 Speaker 4: That's how important it is that we here on earth as husband and wife are an earthly reflection of the spiritual eternal marriage between Christ the bridegroom and Church the bride. Two men can't be that, two women can't be that. 00:38:13 Speaker 3: That's how important it is. That's how central the definition of marriage is. 00:38:18 Speaker 2: I love it amazing. 00:38:24 Speaker 3: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.