From the Archive: The Choice to be Joyful — Charlie's Q&A at CLS 2023

00:00:03 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie kirk I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start at turning point you would say college chapter. Go start attning point youould say high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. 00:00:45 Speaker 2: Here I am Lord, Use me. 00:00:48 Speaker 1: Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. 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How do you handle negativity and suffering? 00:02:04 Speaker 2: No, don't do that. Don't do that? Do you complain? 00:02:11 Speaker 1: Or do you look at it as a potential blessing in your life? You are one hundred percent in control of the attitude that you bring to things that are out of your control. Secular society and modern society says that you are a victim of your circumstances. I'm here to tell you that you get to choose how you handle your circumstances. And so, for example, okay, our table gets torn down, they break into your dorm room. You have two choices. I'm a victim. Feel sorry for me. I want special rights and privileges number two. Wow, this is making me tougher. I'm gonna grow closer to the people I care about. Our five chapter members are gonna be tighter knit than ever before. I'm gonna have some great stories. And boy, I'm more motivated to feat these Marxists than I was before I started my Turning Point group. 00:02:59 Speaker 2: Boom set shift. 00:03:01 Speaker 1: You have a choice to do that, and our society now is non stop about something. You are just the creation of the stuff. No, you are a creation of who you choose to be. You are a creation of the mindset you bring to the game. And so yeah, bad stuff can happen to you. Sickness, death, unexpected car crashes, injury. Do you view it as a chance to become better or not? How many people have read Man Search for Meaning by Victor Frankel? 00:03:28 Speaker 2: Anybody that's actually more hand? I thank you. 00:03:30 Speaker 1: Some of you want to ask questions, so I can't tell uh. You should all read Man Search for Meaning by Victor Frankel, Holocaust survivor. No one can say that I'm suffering what and then read Victor Frankel's book The Guy Lost His Wife Concentration Camp Survivor, and he says, if you go through life with an attitude that this is a chance to improve and become a better person, you have the agency to do that. 00:03:54 Speaker 2: And so how do you handle it? 00:03:56 Speaker 1: Look at it as a blessing, get tougher, get stronger, as a chance to grow your impact. And I will say this again, if you're involved a turning point USA, the maggots will attack you good. You will become stronger while your counterparts grow weaker. 00:04:12 Speaker 2: Next question, where are we at? 00:04:17 Speaker 4: I have mister Kirk and the center here. Okay, I'll scam mister Kirk. How do we ascend to your level of based them? 00:04:25 Speaker 2: Also based yes? 00:04:27 Speaker 4: Being that being based essentially, how do we make time in our business? 00:04:33 Speaker 2: Or how would one make time and their. 00:04:35 Speaker 4: Busy schedules for the pursuit of wisdom and that sort of thing? 00:04:40 Speaker 2: Can I great question? What school do you go to? 00:04:44 Speaker 4: I'm the only member here from Westfield State University in Massachusetts. 00:04:47 Speaker 1: Well, God bless you for being here. I have no idea where that is in Massachusetts, but that any far west you get to Albany, so even further west than Wooster. Okay, okay, yes, all right, God bless you, thanks for being here. I'm gonna say this as non braggadociously as a human being can you Guys are not busier than I on Okay, I'm just gonna be honest. We got four hundred employees, I got to raise one hundred million dollars a year. 00:05:12 Speaker 2: I do three hours of radio. 00:05:13 Speaker 1: I have a daughter, a wife, and I gotta deal with the New York Times and whatever government agency wants to put me in prison. Okay, if you're busier than me, I want to meet you. You make time for what you care about. Podcasting, wake up earlier, stop doing drugs, stop drinking, listen to podcasts that matter, or Hillsdale online courses, whatever it is. 00:05:34 Speaker 2: You're not busy. You think you're busy. 00:05:38 Speaker 1: If I told you that your life will end in thirty days unless you run a mile, run for walk for an hour a day, you'd find time to do that. It's a matter of what matters most to you. So you're probably gonna have to subtract something from that equation. 00:05:54 Speaker 2: Okay, the easy. 00:05:55 Speaker 1: Stuff to subtract here's super easy. Equation. Okay, you could do your own audit. Are you spending time with people that gossip more than pursue beautiful things? If yes, stop being friends with those people. Waste the time. Number two, are you looking at a screen of content that is not teaching you things. 00:06:14 Speaker 2: Or fulfilling things? Stop it? 00:06:16 Speaker 1: Do you have social media apps. 00:06:17 Speaker 2: On your phone? 00:06:18 Speaker 1: You shouldn't. 00:06:19 Speaker 2: Number four? 00:06:20 Speaker 1: Are you doing substances that do not make you feel good after you do them once the high wears off? 00:06:26 Speaker 2: Stop doing those substances. 00:06:28 Speaker 1: If you're doing those four things, you tell me you're busy, You're not busy, You're distracted. It's a big difference. And so my advice to you is you carve out the time. Hillsdale Online Courses charliefur Hillsdale dot com. You listen to the Charlie Kirkshaw, listen to the Matt Walls Show, Listen Victor Davis Hansen. Stuff like there's I could give you one hundred books, literally one hundred books to read that you guys could dive into, but you. 00:06:53 Speaker 2: Have to want it. 00:06:54 Speaker 1: It's going to take one thousand hours of study within a couple of years. 00:07:00 Speaker 2: Here's the cool thing. 00:07:01 Speaker 1: Once you go on this there is no greater joy except getting married, having kids, and giving your life to Jesus. So like no greater like daily joy, Like no greater daily joy than learning the first line of Aristotle's metaphysics. All men desire to know. Dive deep, challenge yourself, read the great books. You'll start to get to a level of joy and understanding of wisdom that I think our generation is missing. 00:07:31 Speaker 5: Yes, really, thank you so much for being here with us today. So you mentioned how it's maybe not a good idea to go into law, But I'm someone who really enjoys the law, and I want to. 00:07:41 Speaker 6: Go to law school and be a constitutional lawyer. 00:07:44 Speaker 5: And I think we owe a lot to conservative judges like Scullia, Alito, Thomas, even Renquist from the seventies. So do you think it's better to not abandon these fields and instead try to take over them? As we see, the law has an effect on our daily lives, seeing through recent Supreme Court decision and even through COVID. And what advice would you give to someone who wants to go into law and news is super staunch conservative? 00:08:06 Speaker 1: No, I mean, look, if you have the temperament and the self discipline, go do it. I wouldn't be able to go through force diversity, equity inclusion courses at a law school. 00:08:15 Speaker 2: That's what you're gonna have to do. 00:08:18 Speaker 1: Right to go to a respectable law school, you're gonna have to write paper after paper on why the Constitution is trash. I wouldn't be able to do that. So more power to you if you're willing to write that and do. 00:08:30 Speaker 2: That the top. 00:08:30 Speaker 1: Every law school's captured, basically everythingle one. But you're right, we do need to have people go into elite society that actually love the country and share our values. But everyone's wired differently. I personally would not be able to go through that kind of humiliation exercise against my deeply, deeply held beliefs. But yes, I mean Amy Cony, Barrett Kavanaugh, Gorsich is whatever, Scalia is amazing. We need a new wave of conservative legal scholars, and you seem like the type of person needs to do it. So I'll back you one hundred percent in that effort. God bless you. 00:09:07 Speaker 7: Charlie on your left right here, guys standing up right here, all right, So Charlie, my name is Charlie as well. I'm from Seattle, Washington, So we are in the middle of a huge culture war. And I really enjoyed the point of view that every chapter is its own military base, and so every war needs a game winning strategy. And so Charlie as, what of our great generals, what's our game winning strategy? 00:09:31 Speaker 2: All right, So it's gonna be a long war. 00:09:34 Speaker 1: Let me tell you that this is not gonna end by the break of summer. To use a military analogy. Number one, you do not apologize to the bad guys unless. 00:09:45 Speaker 2: You know you've done something wrong. 00:09:47 Speaker 1: You do not apologize to the bad guys by forced Maoist style and doctrination. Number two, you never surrender to their will. 00:09:57 Speaker 2: Number three, you. 00:09:58 Speaker 1: Must be happy. Happiness is a choice. You're like, what do you know? Happiness does not happen to you. 00:10:07 Speaker 2: You need to. 00:10:08 Speaker 1: Work on your happiness. You need Yeah, that is That's Prager's book. Happiness is a serious problem. It will change your life. As soon as you recognize that happiness does not happen to you, you choose to be happy. And if your college is not teaching you that, your college is doing a big disservice to you. Why does happiness enjoyed matter? Because they'll never be able to take that from you if you decide that's who you're going to be. Ever and again, I believe the true joy comes from relationship with the Lord. I hope you guys make that same decision, and so we must be joyful warriors. 00:10:44 Speaker 2: What is the battle plan? 00:10:45 Speaker 1: More than even law, I'm so glad you're doing that, But we need entrepreneurs. We need some of you guys to go start the next Google, the next Sales Force, the next Ford Motor Company. We need that badly cause one of you go become a billionaire in the next five years, and we'll have a lot to talk about. Okay, Like somebody go found conservative Snapchat or something, and like come back in five years. I'll name the whole chapter Leadership Summit after you. Okay, yeah, I won't have a problem with that. One hundred million a year, right exactly. One of you, please go get fabulously wealthy very quickly, because we need our own George Soros. 00:11:22 Speaker 2: Okay, what is the battle plan? 00:11:25 Speaker 1: We need you guys to go take risks and not just go work for people, but go employ people and go get very rich and then go give money to go defeat the maggots. Okay, that, so I got a lot more to that. But and then finally, in your own personal life, you need to be personally conservative. 00:11:41 Speaker 2: Men. Stop watching pornography. 00:11:43 Speaker 1: Women, stop watching pornography because a lot of women are watching pornography. 00:11:47 Speaker 2: Stop doing drugs. 00:11:48 Speaker 1: Get married and save yourself for marriage, and then have Mormon levels of children, and then get rich and donate them. 00:11:54 Speaker 2: Back to turning point, USA. 00:11:56 Speaker 8: Okay, the war in Iran is having a devastating effect on the people living there locally. What most people don't realize is it's affecting everyone on the global scale as well, even if we aren't there physically. Every time a missile is launched or bomb goes off, tiny microplastic particles are being spread into our atmosphere, leaching into our soil and water. And guess what They eventually end up in our body, causing harm. They cross the gut lining leach into your blood and disrupt everything. 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I had to read this book. 00:14:09 Speaker 1: It was torture. 00:14:11 Speaker 6: The general assertion is that being hopeful, being positive, being happy, being satisfied with the things, being grateful are toxic and our undermining America in a variety of ways. That you went in the book all to make the not very subtle assertion that it's Republicans, it's conservatives because of. 00:14:29 Speaker 1: All the data out there that we're too happy. 00:14:31 Speaker 6: Yes, So I wanted to know what your response is. And one of the main points is that we don't like demand enough or not progressive enough. We don't want more entitlements, but I think we demand a lot in like a higher standard, not unlike handouts. I wanted to know like your thought on that assertion that book that I had to read from. 00:14:50 Speaker 1: Okay, so, first of all, you should before you ever this is a good life lesson, before you ever demand anything from your society or your government, or from others. You must demand excellence from yourself before you ever demand anything from society or others. You must demand excellence from yourself. If you are unshaven and like waking up at five am and doing drugs and being like the world is so unjust give me free stuff, Like get your act together before you start to go tell other people to give up their liberty, freedom and their stuff. Okay, So I want to be very clear. Positive thinking has a bad rap in some way. I think we should be accurate thinkers. But you should also understand that your attitude is one hundred percent in your control, one hundred percent. The unhappy make the world worse. The person who wrote that book is making the world worse. But if you're a secular leftist, what do you have to be happy about? Everything the left focuses on is a crisis that is unhappy. The world is any from climate change, The world is ending for systemic racism, There is no God. Our history sucks. 00:16:06 Speaker 2: I would be unhappy too. 00:16:08 Speaker 1: We look at it like, Okay, no, there's not a climate catastrophe. We're not systemically racist. We're the greatest nation ever to exist. And I'm made in the image of God, who loved me enough to send as you his son, so that I can live eternal life. Yeah, that would bring me a lot of joy actually, and so, but I don't love that term positive thinking because people think of it as like delusional thinking, where you know, as Tony Robbins would say, you don't go into your garden and say there's no weeds. 00:16:37 Speaker 2: There's no weeds. There's no weeds. 00:16:40 Speaker 1: You go into your garden, you say, here's the weed, and let me pull it out so that you could live a better life and fix your thinking patterns. And so we Andrew Tate said this. I'm not an apologist for Andrew Tate, by the way. I think he's got a lot of problems, but I think he was totally right when he said this. All the young men are like smiling now because this is yeah, yeah, no, I I can't hear what you said, but okay, yeah. Again. I'm not not an apologist of Andrew Tape, but I think he was right when he said this, which is that society in general wants you depressed and they don't want you happy. That if you're happy and joyful, people act as if there's something wrong with you. But if you're depressed and angry or bitter. They're like, everything's right with you, that's weird and totally understanding that depression is a real thing and that people can struggle with it and anxiety is a real thing. Totally get it. Happy to give your resources on that. However, your attitude is still a choice and how you act is a choice every single day. Only you are to blame for whether you are happy or unhappy today. That is completely on you, not on systemic racism, colonialism, misogyny, homophobia, or somebody calling you a bad name. 00:17:54 Speaker 9: Next question, Hey, Charlie, Uh, just wass off as saying a really big fan. But I'm trying to do a co event with us the student ministry I'm in and the president is very adamant about not conviding faith in politics. He is conservative, but he you know, he separation of church and state. 00:18:10 Speaker 2: He doesn't want to. 00:18:11 Speaker 9: Make it political basically, So like, what are some ideas that I can propose to him to to where we can do a co event. 00:18:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you should ask him where does it say separation church and state in the Constitution? And that'd make them make him fluster a little bit. I'm pretty outspoken on this topic, as you can imagine your friend is wrong. What he's basically saying is he doesn't want to offend people. Well, look, the Gospel is offensive, okay by definition? And look what is politics? Politics is how we decide who gets power. The Bible has a lot to say about that. The Bible is largely a political document. What is true? What is good? Should we protect children? Who gets power? Should it be separate? The Founding Fathers quoted Doudomy more than any other book, religious or secular in the formation of our government. And so I understand campus ministry. They're like, oh, we just want to focus on the gospel. You are a weak person. Good luck with your nine people. How many campus ministries can get six thousand people to show up to an event like we can this weekend? They can't. They're withering away, they're dying. Their membership is going down. Why because they're increasingly irrelevant. Where they're like, we just want to love everyone. Meanwhile, this trans zealotry is spreading the country and they're like, well, we don't take stances on that stuff. Well, you're gonna be irrelevant and your numbers are gonna go down. If you stand for truth, people will come. If you stand for truth, people will come happy to talk more privately with you, though. 00:19:44 Speaker 2: Thank you on your left. 00:19:45 Speaker 10: Yeah, Hi, my name is Jude Carlson. Unfortunately not related to the notorious Tucker Carlson. But I come from a pretty conservative area. But my fellow high schoolers don't exactly have motivation for politics or getting involved at all. So, as having the privilege of being the president of the first chapter at my high school, what would you recommend me do to have the largest impact that I can and encourage my peers to be leaders while simultaneously leading them to Christ. 00:20:19 Speaker 1: This is a question I get from people of all ages, which is someone who cares asking me why do other people not care? 00:20:29 Speaker 2: It's just the way that God made us. 00:20:31 Speaker 1: A small percentage of the population will care while most people sit idly by and do nothing. 00:20:37 Speaker 2: It's just the way it is. 00:20:39 Speaker 1: So the trick and the challenge of the leader is how do we get those who usually won't care to care. That's the challenge in front of all of you. And the number one way is you yourself have to be joyful, enthusiastic, energetic, and you have to be a leader that is worth following. If you are those things, then you have a chance to bring other people into those ranks. Right, But again, the majority of the population is just gonna be indifferent. 00:21:10 Speaker 2: Ah whatever. 00:21:11 Speaker 1: How many times do you guys hear that when you do this, Oh whatever, I don't care. Whatever, I don't care. You're gonna have to just break through that. Try to make it relative, try to make it relevant, I should say, try to make it engaging, informational. 00:21:25 Speaker 2: But more than anything else. 00:21:28 Speaker 1: People follow people, and so if you are a leader worth following, who's interesting, who studies, who understands their stuff, that's a great way to pierce through a lot of the cynicism and a lot of the lack of engagement. God bless you man, thank you for leading your chapter two. 00:21:47 Speaker 8: Here's what your financial advisor will not tell you. By the time the news tells you to buy gold, it's already too late. 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Nice, see you again. 00:23:22 Speaker 11: So I had a question similar to the question that was asked over here, but with GSU being like a Christian campus, pretty conservative campus, there are a lot of students that I talk to, especially friends of mine, that are like, hey, I like, I respect what you're doing. I don't really care about politics. All I care about is the Gospel. You know, Jesus is gonna win in the end, So why should I care about America? I hear that same thing from a lot of churches too, So how do you suggest I go about going into these friend circles, going into these churches and be like, hey, you should care about America because we know Jesus is gonna, you know, come back and those believers are gonna be saved. But like, why should we care in the moment? Now? 00:24:03 Speaker 2: Great? 00:24:03 Speaker 1: Great question? First and foremost, does the Bible ever instruct us to care about politics? Yes, Jeremiah twenty ninety seven, demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare. Daniel, Esther, Mordecai, Jeremiah, Nehemiah. I could go through the list. Joseph, Joseph, one of my favorite characters of the Bible. Who Bible trivia, only two Old Testament characters called righteous or who anybody? 00:24:25 Speaker 2: Noah who said that good for you and. 00:24:28 Speaker 1: Not no Abraham was never called righteous, No, it's it's it's uh Noah, and Joseph. Abraham was called good, but he's not called righteous? But close though, Yes, who's whoever said Noah, that's really good for you people? Usually I've been to churches and they don't get that question right. So Joseph called the righteous man. He was also called Hansome. That's a separate issue. Joseph was what what was Joseph? Let's Bible trivia. How could you describe Joseph? Yes, he was young son discarded all this. What was his role in Egypt? Anybody second most powerful? But what he was a what he was would you say accountant? 00:25:02 Speaker 5: Yes? 00:25:02 Speaker 1: But he was a counselor to the king. 00:25:05 Speaker 2: Right. 00:25:06 Speaker 1: God's vision for his people is to be counselors to the King, to correct error into right, to correct lies into truth right. So should we delete we take scissors and remove Joseph, Daniel, Mordecai, Esther, Nehemiah, and Jeremiah. No, we should look to Daniel. What did Daniel do when a tyrannical government told him to stop praying? 00:25:28 Speaker 2: What did Daniel do? 00:25:30 Speaker 1: Kept praying and he opened up the window and he said, screw you. I'm gonna keep on worshiping Hashem ad and I Jehovah l Ohem, I am not going to listen to your tyrannical order. We talk about Daniel in the lions Den, but we forget how he got in the lions den. He got in the lions den because he did not put up with tyrannical government. What does it say, an x It says that we will not obey Man, but we will obey God. I can go on and on and on and on. This is a luck luxury of modern Christians that are comfortable and powers you. You shouldn't say that, but I'm being honest. Okay, these are modern Christians that have it so good. They don't understand that Christianity usually ends up in the gulag and the death camp and persecution. If we do not stand and fight for liberty, which is God's idea, not man's idea, we will be having theological disputes from prison, and we're all going to be running prison ministries. But if we stand for self government and the promise the Founders handed down to us, there's a chance that we can continue to fight for righteous, righteous and goodness. And think about how selfish it is though, Oh Jesus is coming, I don't need to go fight for other people. What were the two things that Jesus said were the most important teachings of the Old Testament Leviticus nineteen, which is love your neighbor as yourself. 00:26:47 Speaker 2: You guys are doing this is an impressive group. 00:26:49 Speaker 1: And number two Deuteronomy twenty, which is love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind. 00:26:54 Speaker 2: Good. 00:26:55 Speaker 1: So those two things, how can you love your neighbor as yourself if you live under a terran government? 00:27:02 Speaker 2: I love exactly. 00:27:03 Speaker 1: I love my neighbors so much I want them to live in a free society. 00:27:07 Speaker 2: That's what you should tell your friends. 00:27:09 Speaker 1: That it is the loving thing to do to give someone a free society. It is the unloving thing. It is against Leviticus nineteen. It is against what Jesus told us is the greatest thing, to have them live in a stalinistic mau type government. So take whatever you want, maybe lower the temperature a little bit, and then park it and say maybe we should think about this. And finally, liberty is to be able to do what you ought to do. We have this short guess where we live in a free society? Does God want you to be free? Yes? God delivered his chosen people from bondage the first the first chapter of Exodus, and then rose a king over Egypt who did not know Joseph forgets the memory of the history before them. Tear who are these Jews? Imprison them and slave them. They multiply like cockroaches. And God went to great lengths to deliver his people from bondage, from tyranny into freedom. But then what ends up happening? Anybody read the Book of Numbers? Numbers eleven. They start complaining, and they complain, and they complain, and they complain and they complain. Numbers eleven, God's chosen People, ten plagues, parting of the Red Sea, ten commandments, numbers eleven. What was their complaint? Hey, God, we want to go back to Egypt because we had quote, cucumbers in Egypt. You can look it up. Fact check me English Standard version numbers eleven. They've said to God, we miss Egypt because we had meat leaks and cucumbers and melons in Egypt. That's a good trivia question for your friends. Right, name me a vegetable that is in the book of numbers. Man I, people don't know it's cucumbers. It's like hilarious. What were they saying. I prefer to go be a slave than to be in the desert. Even though quail is blown off course and manna comes from heaven, it is in our soul and our broken spirit to want to be taken care of and live under tyranny. It takes effort, effort of you to want to live free, to want to remind people that liberty and freedom is of value, which is God's plan for his people. Our broken nature wants us to go live under a dictator. That is the spiritual tension in front. 00:29:30 Speaker 12: Of us right now, next question to you, right, yeap, Holy based let's go now. I just want to say, for all Catholics and curious, we will be doing a Rosary to night. 00:29:38 Speaker 2: We're trying to get a group together. 00:29:40 Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for Catholics. God blessed you. 00:29:42 Speaker 12: Can go, but anyway, please join we we'd love for everyone to come. But so, what I want to know is so I would argue that Turning Points rhetoric has gotten a lot better since the Culture War tour back in twenty nineteen, and a lot of the arguments that have gone on within my chapter have been about what is Turning Point's real goal. You know, people will tell me at least they'll say, oh, this is all about economic. 00:30:04 Speaker 2: Scuss you can't focus on the social issues. 00:30:06 Speaker 12: And obviously I think this discussion is proving that wrong right now. But I kind of want to just because the rhetoric has shifted so much over the last few years. I want to know what is like Turning Points definitive stance on social issues, both political religious, and also how does that go into factoring in who can work at Turning Point us say, like, what is the standard for you know, what someone should be practicing in their. 00:30:29 Speaker 1: Personal Oh, I think that's a great question. And so first I'll tell you what I believe, right, I think it's rather well documented I think I've just gone through it, right. Believe a marriage is one man, one woman, right, I don't believe in any of this trans stuff, all that crap, and so, but as far as where Turning Point stands, the most important way that I could address that is, first and foremost and understanding of the principles that allowed Western civilization to flourish, and a commitment to the eternal natural law. We go back to the Declaration and the Constitution, first and foremost the laws of nature and Nature's God. How you read that and how I read that is there is a natural law and we should follow that. So if I were to, because you could go through a million different issues, right, and then all of a sudden you have like your mission statement ends up being five hundred thousand pages long. So I made a decision. I say, you know what, we had this at our training. We believe in the promise is the Declaration of the Constitution, which does cover social issues. By the way, the Declaration, God has mentioned four times that there is a supreme judge of the world. Right, And so if you stay to just those two documents, what is Turning points mission to revive the Promise of the American founding is articulated in the Declaration and the United States Constitution. Aka get our country back from these people. Now, you might say, Charlie, oh, you know, you're ramping up the intensity. 00:31:45 Speaker 2: What has changed. I got married and had a daughter. That's what's changed. You want to get radicalized, get married. 00:31:51 Speaker 1: With that being said, some of our best activists, some are, you know, hardest fighters in the trenches, are people with other lifestyles in that, you know what, I think the world of them, and I'm happy to fight for liberty amongst people, even if I see differently on certain things that they might do in their personal life. So to answer that final part of your question, thank you. 00:32:10 Speaker 8: Next question, here's what your financial advisor will not tell you. By the time the news tells you to buy gold, it's already too late. You're waiting. 00:32:20 Speaker 2: I get it. 00:32:21 Speaker 8: Everybody's waiting, waiting to see if the ceasefire holds, waiting to see if the strait of horn Moose reopens, waiting to see what happens next. But gold isn't waiting for you. It moves on fear, on instability, on the unknown, and it moves faster than you can react. So while you're waiting for certainty. 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Visit noblegold Investments dot com slash Kirk for your free investor kit, or call eight seven seven six four six five three four seven eight seven seven six four six five, three four seven, and tell them that the Charlie Kirk Show sent you. 00:33:38 Speaker 13: Yep, Hi, my name is Ann. I go to Hilldale College. 00:33:44 Speaker 2: Greatest college in America. It's a great place. Thank you. Okay. 00:33:48 Speaker 13: So, first of all, I love the referencing to the obscure Biblical passages. My favorite one is the talking donkey in numbers. 00:33:55 Speaker 1: Yep, that's uh, really good one. Yep, that's that is really good. 00:33:58 Speaker 13: Lesser known one. 00:33:59 Speaker 6: Okay. 00:34:00 Speaker 13: So I have been canvassing because there is an election this November in Ohio for something called reproductive health. And it's very vague and nonspecific, but I was talking to somebody about how it is basically a bill that would allow children to get sex changes without telling their parents, and it would aid the people that helped them to do that. And I was having a wonderful conversation with somebody. He seemed like he really agreed with me. And also he was a trans man, a man who was turning into a woman. But then after he finished talking to me, he walked away and he told somebody that I initiated a conversation with him and that I was debating and arguing with him. So my question for you is how do you respond when somebody is lying about what you've told them? Because I didn't initiate a conversation, he started a conversation with me. 00:34:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, you just gotta be really careful anytime you're dealing with activism or engagement with a transgroup. They have deep seated mental problems and you got to be very careful. Okay, it's not a joke. I'm not trivializing it. You gotta be really careful. 00:35:02 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:35:03 Speaker 1: These people are these people are not chemically balanced. They're on a cocktail of drugs. I hope they get care compassionately, but this you just got to be careful, right, And so I can't give you, you know, personal advice on that, except for the fact that I'm sorry that you were lied about. I'm glad you're doing that kind of activism. And if look, if we cannot have a clear societal consensus that male and female period, like you don't get to go after kids, especially in that regard, then like, I don't even know what to tell you, right, but happy to dialogue with you more privately. But I will say I love that you go to Hillsdale, and I love that you're an activist simultaneously and tell doctor, aren't I say, hi, okay, thank you. 00:35:46 Speaker 2: Yes, where are we at here? How are you doing? Charlie? 00:35:50 Speaker 1: So, as I said earlier, I'm from Suffolk University. 00:35:52 Speaker 2: It's yeah in Boston. You're gonna transitions. You can get on the website. 00:35:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 00:35:58 Speaker 14: So Actually, my first exposure turning point there was one night you did a radio show with Dan Ray from WBZ. 00:36:06 Speaker 2: That was like my first Oh, no, way, that's so cool. 00:36:09 Speaker 14: But so I'm studying broadcast journalism because I'd like to do something like what Dan Ray does one day. And at my college I write for my college paper and I'm required to put my pronouns in my in my Bible on my staff page. And I really like the Tucker Crawlson approach to like his whole approach, like, yeah, there's always going to be people that do that, but I'm that one guy that just doesn't want to do that. I'm in one of the bluest cities in the country. What's your advice If. 00:36:37 Speaker 1: You stand for truth in that, your life's not going to be easy, right, So you just have to know that it's going to be a NonStop terror campaign where they're be like, why don't you do the pronoun? Why don't you do the pronoun? Why don't you do the pronoun? Matt Walsh has the best progression on this, right. It starts with mandatory tolerance, then acceptance, then then celebration and participation, right, and so think about it. First, you must accept the trans thing it's tolerated. Then you must accept it, then you must celebrate it, and now you have to participate it by the administration of pronouns. Like, well, that's weird. I thought it was all just about tolerance. So I don't know if I want to give you advice or not, but I mean this seriously. You might want to consider this eventually moving right, Like if you have a chance to get out of the Soviet Union, would you. 00:37:22 Speaker 2: Right? 00:37:23 Speaker 1: Because that you live in Massachusetts, man, Like that's where you said. Yeah, it's it's not good like that, especially on the gender stuff. It is completely out of control, especially in Boston, which is the most academic clustered town in the country. Yeah, it really is, Thank you man, appreciate it. 00:37:42 Speaker 2: The last question right in the right. 00:37:43 Speaker 15: Okay, Hello, mister Kirk, my name is abibaal Hagen. And I am one of the co presidents at Perperdine University. You answered my question last time about becoming a surgeon and also a mom at why deb Ill. 00:37:57 Speaker 2: That went a little viral. 00:38:00 Speaker 15: Thank you for reposting on your page. 00:38:01 Speaker 2: It was super cool. 00:38:02 Speaker 15: My family sent it to me. 00:38:03 Speaker 2: And they were like, WHOA. 00:38:04 Speaker 15: But anyway, I have a bit of a different question. So at Pepperdine there's a really big organization that's called the Global Justice Institute, and they're currently serving in Rwanda and Uganda breaking people out of prison for crimes that they actually did not commit. However, I joined as an ambassador to only advocate for Pawmia negotiations in foreign countries because that's something that I'm actually passionate about. I'm not necessarily passionate about the humanitarian acts. I don't really have anything to do with our country, so how and there are many organizations at Pepperdine that are kind of conservative also kind of liberal, just because they have to swing both ways to have both sides of Christianity be service. Like some of the students we're saying, so, how should we as con conservative students support these organizations? Should we go all in and try to really maximize that conservative side, or just not at all because they're not fully conservative. 00:39:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it depends. 00:39:04 Speaker 1: I have nothing against with helping people in you know, Uganda or Rwanda. I do how do I say this gently? There's a lot of good people that do that work. But I also think it's driven a lot by upper middle class white guilt in this country, where they refuse to actually recognize our own country as quickly becoming a third world country. Like get on a highway, any highway, and drive through the interior of the United States. We have one hundred and ten thousand people drug overdosing every single year in this country. We have thousands of people being sex trafficked literally through our country every single day. We're like, oh, I need to go to Rwanda or Uganda. Like not, okay, good on you, But do you focus at all on your own country Jeremiah twenty ninety seven. Demand the welfare of the land of which you are in, not demand the welfare of a fore and off land. 00:39:55 Speaker 2: I'm not against it. 00:39:56 Speaker 1: I'm sure they mean well, but I'm with you, like, can we fix our own country before we try to solve the ailments of the third World? I just I don't know, so how do you. I would involve The pile mia thing is really important, the prisoners of war missing an action. I'm glad you're doing that. So that's where my own sentiment is that I'm not against, you know, international third world charity, but I feel as if it's been an over emphasis of Christian groups the last twenty or thirty years, and there's kind of an indifference with the suffering that's happening in our own country. 00:40:27 Speaker 2: Thank you, appreciate it. 00:40:33 Speaker 3: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com